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I didn't understand what kind of affect it can make. This draft was
not submitted to ROLL, but to IETF. Was this draft before
discussed/presented in 6LowPAN or ROLL? However, IMO all drafts old
and new may affect each other in IETF for progress, which is good.

AB

On 2/7/13, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
> This could affect you.
> Please comment (if you want to) on the IETF list as described.
>
> Thanks,
> Adrian
>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of The IESG
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>> Subject: Last Call: <draft-cardenas-dff-09.txt> (Depth-First Forwarding
>> in
>> Unreliable Networks (DFF)) to Experimental RFC
>>
>>
>> The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
>> the following document:
>> - 'Depth-First Forwarding in Unreliable Networks (DFF)'
>>   <draft-cardenas-dff-09.txt> as Experimental RFC
>>
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>>
>>    This document specifies the "Depth-First Forwarding" (DFF) protocol
>>    for IPv6 networks, a data forwarding mechanism that can increase
>>    reliability of data delivery in networks with dynamic topology and/or
>>    lossy links.  The protocol operates entirely on the forwarding plane,
>>    but may interact with the routing plane.  DFF forwards data packets
>>    using a mechanism similar to a "depth-first search" for the
>>    destination of a packet.  The routing plane may be informed of
>>    failures to deliver a packet or loops.  This document specifies the
>>    DFF mechanism both for IPv6 networks (as specified in RFC2460) and in
>>    addition also for LoWPAN "mesh-under" networks (as specified in
>>    RFC4944).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The file can be obtained via
>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cardenas-dff/
>>
>> IESG discussion can be tracked via
>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cardenas-dff/ballot/
>>
>>
>> The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:
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AB,

this draft is an individual draft, not going through a working group. The
document specifies a data forwarding mechanism that can improve data
delivery reliability, and thus is relevant in the Internet Area of the
IETF, more than the Routing Area (of which ROLL is part). The 6lowpan WG
does not accept any new work items.
The DFF mechanism can use information from different routing protocols.
There are several implementations and deployments, as described in the
draft.

Best regards
Ulrich

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Abdussalam Baryun <
abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> wrote:

> I didn't understand what kind of affect it can make. This draft was
> not submitted to ROLL, but to IETF. Was this draft before
> discussed/presented in 6LowPAN or ROLL? However, IMO all drafts old
> and new may affect each other in IETF for progress, which is good.
>
> AB
>
> On 2/7/13, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
> > This could affect you.
> > Please comment (if you want to) on the IETF list as described.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Adrian
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-announce-
> >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of The IESG
> >> Sent: 07 February 2013 13:22
> >> To: IETF-Announce
> >> Subject: Last Call: <draft-cardenas-dff-09.txt> (Depth-First Forwarding
> >> in
> >> Unreliable Networks (DFF)) to Experimental RFC
> >>
> >>
> >> The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
> >> the following document:
> >> - 'Depth-First Forwarding in Unreliable Networks (DFF)'
> >>   <draft-cardenas-dff-09.txt> as Experimental RFC
> >>
> >> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
> >> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
> >> ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-02-24. Exceptionally, comments may
> be
> >> sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
> >> beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
> >>
> >> Abstract
> >>
> >>
> >>    This document specifies the "Depth-First Forwarding" (DFF) protocol
> >>    for IPv6 networks, a data forwarding mechanism that can increase
> >>    reliability of data delivery in networks with dynamic topology and/or
> >>    lossy links.  The protocol operates entirely on the forwarding plane,
> >>    but may interact with the routing plane.  DFF forwards data packets
> >>    using a mechanism similar to a "depth-first search" for the
> >>    destination of a packet.  The routing plane may be informed of
> >>    failures to deliver a packet or loops.  This document specifies the
> >>    DFF mechanism both for IPv6 networks (as specified in RFC2460) and in
> >>    addition also for LoWPAN "mesh-under" networks (as specified in
> >>    RFC4944).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The file can be obtained via
> >> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cardenas-dff/
> >>
> >> IESG discussion can be tracked via
> >> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cardenas-dff/ballot/
> >>
> >>
> >> The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:
> >>
> >>    http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1645/
> >>    http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1646/
> >>
> >
> >
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AB,<br><br>this draft is an individual draft, not going through a working g=
roup. The document specifies a data forwarding mechanism that can improve d=
ata delivery reliability, and thus is relevant in the Internet Area of the =
IETF, more than the Routing Area (of which ROLL is part). The 6lowpan WG do=
es not accept any new work items.<br>
The DFF mechanism can use information from different routing protocols. The=
re are several implementations and deployments, as described in the draft.<=
br><br>Best regards<br>Ulrich<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb=
 7, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Abdussalam Baryun <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:abdussalambaryun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">abdussalambaryun@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I didn&#39;t understand what kind of affect =
it can make. This draft was<br>
not submitted to ROLL, but to IETF. Was this draft before<br>
discussed/presented in 6LowPAN or ROLL? However, IMO all drafts old<br>
and new may affect each other in IETF for progress, which is good.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
AB<br>
</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On 2/7/13, Adrian Farrel &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk">adrian@=
olddog.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; This could affect you.<br>
&gt; Please comment (if you want to) on the IETF list as described.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; Adrian<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt;&gt; From: <a href=3D"mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org">ietf-annou=
nce-bounces@ietf.org</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:ietf-announce-">ietf-ann=
ounce-</a><br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:bounces@ietf.org">bounces@ietf.org</a>] On Behal=
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&gt;&gt; Sent: 07 February 2013 13:22<br>
&gt;&gt; To: IETF-Announce<br>
&gt;&gt; Subject: Last Call: &lt;draft-cardenas-dff-09.txt&gt; (Depth-First=
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&gt;&gt; in<br>
&gt;&gt; Unreliable Networks (DFF)) to Experimental RFC<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to co=
nsider<br>
&gt;&gt; the following document:<br>
&gt;&gt; - &#39;Depth-First Forwarding in Unreliable Networks (DFF)&#39;<br=
>
&gt;&gt; =A0 &lt;draft-cardenas-dff-09.txt&gt; as Experimental RFC<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solic=
its<br>
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&gt;&gt; Abstract<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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&gt;&gt; =A0 =A0This document specifies the &quot;Depth-First Forwarding&qu=
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&gt;&gt; =A0 =A0for IPv6 networks, a data forwarding mechanism that can inc=
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&gt;&gt; =A0 =A0reliability of data delivery in networks with dynamic topol=
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&gt;&gt; =A0 =A0lossy links. =A0The protocol operates entirely on the forwa=
rding plane,<br>
&gt;&gt; =A0 =A0but may interact with the routing plane. =A0DFF forwards da=
ta packets<br>
&gt;&gt; =A0 =A0using a mechanism similar to a &quot;depth-first search&quo=
t; for the<br>
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cifies the<br>
&gt;&gt; =A0 =A0DFF mechanism both for IPv6 networks (as specified in RFC24=
60) and in<br>
&gt;&gt; =A0 =A0addition also for LoWPAN &quot;mesh-under&quot; networks (a=
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&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; The file can be obtained via<br>
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&gt;&gt; IESG discussion can be tracked via<br>
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ot/" target=3D"_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cardenas-dff/b=
allot/</a><br>
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&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:<br>
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Greetings,

A new "IPv6 over foo" I-D has been posted at http://tools.ietf.org/html/dra=
ft-brandt-6man-lowpanz-00.

This I-D specifies an IPv6 encapsulation for ITU-T G.9959 radio networks th=
at I'd describe as an alternative to IEEE 802.15.4 in home and building aut=
omation.=20

The I-D provides some background material on ITU-T G.9959 (addressing, etc.=
) as well as the required IPv6 stuff.  The encapsulation and header compres=
sion schemes are derived from (and compatible with) 6LoWPAN.

I hope to get a few minutes on the 6man agenda in Orlando to discuss the I-=
D and where it belongs.

Thanks,
  Anders

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A new version of I-D, draft-brandt-6man-lowpanz-00.txt has been successfull=
y submitted by Anders Brandt and posted to the IETF repository.

Filename:	 draft-brandt-6man-lowpanz
Revision:	 00
Title:		 Transmission of IPv6 packets over ITU-T G.9959 Networks
Creation date:	 2013-02-08
WG ID:		 Individual Submission
Number of pages: 13
URL:             http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-brandt-6man-lowp=
anz-00.txt
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Abstract:
   This document describes the frame format for transmission of IPv6
   packets and a method of forming IPv6 link-local addresses and
   statelessly autoconfigured IPv6 addresses on ITU-T G.9959 networks.


                                                                           =
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Thank for your reply, but I have not seen announcement that 6lowpan
does not accept new items, did I miss that :(

AB

On 2/8/13, Ulrich Herberg <ulrich@herberg.name> wrote:
> AB,
>
> this draft is an individual draft, not going through a working group. The
> document specifies a data forwarding mechanism that can improve data
> delivery reliability, and thus is relevant in the Internet Area of the
> IETF, more than the Routing Area (of which ROLL is part). The 6lowpan WG
> does not accept any new work items.
> The DFF mechanism can use information from different routing protocols.
> There are several implementations and deployments, as described in the
> draft.
>
> Best regards
> Ulrich
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Abdussalam Baryun <
> abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I didn't understand what kind of affect it can make. This draft was
>> not submitted to ROLL, but to IETF. Was this draft before
>> discussed/presented in 6LowPAN or ROLL? However, IMO all drafts old
>> and new may affect each other in IETF for progress, which is good.
>>
>> AB
>>
>> On 2/7/13, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
>> > This could affect you.
>> > Please comment (if you want to) on the IETF list as described.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Adrian
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-announce-
>> >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of The IESG
>> >> Sent: 07 February 2013 13:22
>> >> To: IETF-Announce
>> >> Subject: Last Call: <draft-cardenas-dff-09.txt> (Depth-First
>> >> Forwarding
>> >> in
>> >> Unreliable Networks (DFF)) to Experimental RFC
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to
>> >> consider
>> >> the following document:
>> >> - 'Depth-First Forwarding in Unreliable Networks (DFF)'
>> >>   <draft-cardenas-dff-09.txt> as Experimental RFC
>> >>
>> >> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
>> >> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
>> >> ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-02-24. Exceptionally, comments may
>> be
>> >> sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
>> >> beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
>> >>
>> >> Abstract
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>    This document specifies the "Depth-First Forwarding" (DFF) protocol
>> >>    for IPv6 networks, a data forwarding mechanism that can increase
>> >>    reliability of data delivery in networks with dynamic topology
>> >> and/or
>> >>    lossy links.  The protocol operates entirely on the forwarding
>> >> plane,
>> >>    but may interact with the routing plane.  DFF forwards data packets
>> >>    using a mechanism similar to a "depth-first search" for the
>> >>    destination of a packet.  The routing plane may be informed of
>> >>    failures to deliver a packet or loops.  This document specifies the
>> >>    DFF mechanism both for IPv6 networks (as specified in RFC2460) and
>> >> in
>> >>    addition also for LoWPAN "mesh-under" networks (as specified in
>> >>    RFC4944).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The file can be obtained via
>> >> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cardenas-dff/
>> >>
>> >> IESG discussion can be tracked via
>> >> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cardenas-dff/ballot/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:
>> >>
>> >>    http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1645/
>> >>    http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1646/
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Roll mailing list
>> > Roll@ietf.org
>> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
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Filling in some details on this thread...

draft-cardenas-dff is under consideration for publication as an =
AD-sponsored individual submission Experimental RFC.  I agreed to =
sponsor it for publication because it doesn't really fit in any existing =
working groups and the requested publication status is Experimental.  As =
part of the review process, the document is in a 2-week IETF last call.  =
To ensure the quality of the document, it would be helpful to get =
reviews from 6lowpan WG participants (posted to the ietf@ietf.org =
discussion list).

- Ralph


On Feb 8, 2013, at 12:55 PM 2/8/13, Abdussalam Baryun =
<abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank for your reply, but I have not seen announcement that 6lowpan
> does not accept new items, did I miss that :(
>=20
> AB
>=20
> On 2/8/13, Ulrich Herberg <ulrich@herberg.name> wrote:
>> AB,
>>=20
>> this draft is an individual draft, not going through a working group. =
The
>> document specifies a data forwarding mechanism that can improve data
>> delivery reliability, and thus is relevant in the Internet Area of =
the
>> IETF, more than the Routing Area (of which ROLL is part). The 6lowpan =
WG
>> does not accept any new work items.
>> The DFF mechanism can use information from different routing =
protocols.
>> There are several implementations and deployments, as described in =
the
>> draft.
>>=20
>> Best regards
>> Ulrich
>>=20
>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Abdussalam Baryun <
>> abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> I didn't understand what kind of affect it can make. This draft was
>>> not submitted to ROLL, but to IETF. Was this draft before
>>> discussed/presented in 6LowPAN or ROLL? However, IMO all drafts old
>>> and new may affect each other in IETF for progress, which is good.
>>>=20
>>> AB
>>>=20
>>> On 2/7/13, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> This could affect you.
>>>> Please comment (if you want to) on the IETF list as described.
>>>>=20
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Adrian
>>>>=20
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-announce-
>>>>> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of The IESG
>>>>> Sent: 07 February 2013 13:22
>>>>> To: IETF-Announce
>>>>> Subject: Last Call: <draft-cardenas-dff-09.txt> (Depth-First
>>>>> Forwarding
>>>>> in
>>>>> Unreliable Networks (DFF)) to Experimental RFC
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to
>>>>> consider
>>>>> the following document:
>>>>> - 'Depth-First Forwarding in Unreliable Networks (DFF)'
>>>>>  <draft-cardenas-dff-09.txt> as Experimental RFC
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and =
solicits
>>>>> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to =
the
>>>>> ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-02-24. Exceptionally, comments =
may
>>> be
>>>>> sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
>>>>> beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Abstract
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>   This document specifies the "Depth-First Forwarding" (DFF) =
protocol
>>>>>   for IPv6 networks, a data forwarding mechanism that can increase
>>>>>   reliability of data delivery in networks with dynamic topology
>>>>> and/or
>>>>>   lossy links.  The protocol operates entirely on the forwarding
>>>>> plane,
>>>>>   but may interact with the routing plane.  DFF forwards data =
packets
>>>>>   using a mechanism similar to a "depth-first search" for the
>>>>>   destination of a packet.  The routing plane may be informed of
>>>>>   failures to deliver a packet or loops.  This document specifies =
the
>>>>>   DFF mechanism both for IPv6 networks (as specified in RFC2460) =
and
>>>>> in
>>>>>   addition also for LoWPAN "mesh-under" networks (as specified in
>>>>>   RFC4944).
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The file can be obtained via
>>>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cardenas-dff/
>>>>>=20
>>>>> IESG discussion can be tracked via
>>>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cardenas-dff/ballot/
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:
>>>>>=20
>>>>>   http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1645/
>>>>>   http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1646/
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Roll mailing list
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>>>>=20
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Roll mailing list
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draft-cardenas-dff is under consideration for publication as an =
AD-sponsored individual submission Experimental RFC.  I agreed to =
sponsor it for publication because it doesn't really fit in any existing =
working groups and the requested publication status is Experimental.  As =
part of the review process, the document is in a 2-week IETF last call.  =
To ensure the quality of the document, it would be helpful to get =
reviews from 6lowpan WG participants (posted to the ietf@ietf.org =
discussion list).

Expressions of an opinion about whether or not to publish the document, =
in addition to technical input to the authors, would be useful.

Thanks.

- Ralph


On Feb 8, 2013, at 12:55 PM 2/8/13, Abdussalam Baryun =
<abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank for your reply, but I have not seen announcement that 6lowpan
> does not accept new items, did I miss that :(
>=20
> AB
>=20
> On 2/8/13, Ulrich Herberg <ulrich@herberg.name> wrote:
>> AB,
>>=20
>> this draft is an individual draft, not going through a working group. =
The
>> document specifies a data forwarding mechanism that can improve data
>> delivery reliability, and thus is relevant in the Internet Area of =
the
>> IETF, more than the Routing Area (of which ROLL is part). The 6lowpan =
WG
>> does not accept any new work items.
>> The DFF mechanism can use information from different routing =
protocols.
>> There are several implementations and deployments, as described in =
the
>> draft.
>>=20
>> Best regards
>> Ulrich
>>=20
>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Abdussalam Baryun <
>> abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> I didn't understand what kind of affect it can make. This draft was
>>> not submitted to ROLL, but to IETF. Was this draft before
>>> discussed/presented in 6LowPAN or ROLL? However, IMO all drafts old
>>> and new may affect each other in IETF for progress, which is good.
>>>=20
>>> AB
>>>=20
>>> On 2/7/13, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> This could affect you.
>>>> Please comment (if you want to) on the IETF list as described.
>>>>=20
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Adrian
>>>>=20
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-announce-
>>>>> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of The IESG
>>>>> Sent: 07 February 2013 13:22
>>>>> To: IETF-Announce
>>>>> Subject: Last Call: <draft-cardenas-dff-09.txt> (Depth-First
>>>>> Forwarding
>>>>> in
>>>>> Unreliable Networks (DFF)) to Experimental RFC
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to
>>>>> consider
>>>>> the following document:
>>>>> - 'Depth-First Forwarding in Unreliable Networks (DFF)'
>>>>> <draft-cardenas-dff-09.txt> as Experimental RFC
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and =
solicits
>>>>> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to =
the
>>>>> ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-02-24. Exceptionally, comments =
may
>>> be
>>>>> sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
>>>>> beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Abstract
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>  This document specifies the "Depth-First Forwarding" (DFF) =
protocol
>>>>>  for IPv6 networks, a data forwarding mechanism that can increase
>>>>>  reliability of data delivery in networks with dynamic topology
>>>>> and/or
>>>>>  lossy links.  The protocol operates entirely on the forwarding
>>>>> plane,
>>>>>  but may interact with the routing plane.  DFF forwards data =
packets
>>>>>  using a mechanism similar to a "depth-first search" for the
>>>>>  destination of a packet.  The routing plane may be informed of
>>>>>  failures to deliver a packet or loops.  This document specifies =
the
>>>>>  DFF mechanism both for IPv6 networks (as specified in RFC2460) =
and
>>>>> in
>>>>>  addition also for LoWPAN "mesh-under" networks (as specified in
>>>>>  RFC4944).
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The file can be obtained via
>>>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cardenas-dff/
>>>>>=20
>>>>> IESG discussion can be tracked via
>>>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cardenas-dff/ballot/
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:
>>>>>=20
>>>>>  http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1645/
>>>>>  http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1646/
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
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(CC'ed to 6lowpan@ietf.org)

The Internet Draft http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-brandt-6man-lowpanz-00 =
was submitted on Feb. 8.

The authors would like to ask that the document as adopted as a 6man WG doc=
ument.

This document SHOULD be owned by the 6LoWPAN WG. 6LoWPAN is however not act=
ive.
The 6man WG is therefore proposed as the home of this document.


Thanks,
  Anders Brandt

-----Original Message-----
From: ipv6-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of And=
ers Brandt
Sent: 8. februar 2013 13:17
To: ipv6@ietf.org; 6lowpan@ietf.org
Subject: FW: New Version Notification for draft-brandt-6man-lowpanz-00.txt

Greetings,

A new "IPv6 over foo" I-D has been posted at http://tools.ietf.org/html/dra=
ft-brandt-6man-lowpanz-00.

This I-D specifies an IPv6 encapsulation for ITU-T G.9959 radio networks th=
at I'd describe as an alternative to IEEE 802.15.4 in home and building aut=
omation.=20

The I-D provides some background material on ITU-T G.9959 (addressing, etc.=
) as well as the required IPv6 stuff.  The encapsulation and header compres=
sion schemes are derived from (and compatible with) 6LoWPAN.

I hope to get a few minutes on the 6man agenda in Orlando to discuss the I-=
D and where it belongs.

Thanks,
  Anders

-----Original Message-----
From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org]
Sent: 8. februar 2013 13:02
To: Anders Brandt
Cc: Jakob Buron
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-brandt-6man-lowpanz-00.txt


A new version of I-D, draft-brandt-6man-lowpanz-00.txt has been successfull=
y submitted by Anders Brandt and posted to the IETF repository.

Filename:	 draft-brandt-6man-lowpanz
Revision:	 00
Title:		 Transmission of IPv6 packets over ITU-T G.9959 Networks
Creation date:	 2013-02-08
WG ID:		 Individual Submission
Number of pages: 13
URL:             http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-brandt-6man-lowp=
anz-00.txt
Status:          http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brandt-6man-lowpanz
Htmlized:        http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-brandt-6man-lowpanz-00


Abstract:
   This document describes the frame format for transmission of IPv6
   packets and a method of forming IPv6 link-local addresses and
   statelessly autoconfigured IPv6 addresses on ITU-T G.9959 networks.


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