From nobody Thu Apr 6 09:03:03 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E16312942F for <6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 6 Apr 2017 09:03:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pv3F8YzPXjNV for <6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 6 Apr 2017 09:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.sandelman.ca (relay.cooperix.net [IPv6:2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:de77]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 785221270B4 for <6tisch-security@ietf.org>; Thu, 6 Apr 2017 09:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dooku.sandelman.ca (unknown [75.98.19.134]) by relay.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D42A1F8F5 for <6tisch-security@ietf.org>; Thu, 6 Apr 2017 16:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dooku.sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id AE1F52918; Thu, 6 Apr 2017 11:02:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Richardson To: 6tisch-security@ietf.org X-Attribution: mcr X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.6; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 12:02:56 -0400 Message-ID: <25581.1491494576@dooku.sandelman.ca> Archived-At: Subject: [6tisch-security] reminder, doodle poll for next week X-BeenThere: 6tisch-security@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Extended Design Team for 6TiSCH security architecture <6tisch-security.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 16:03:02 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain https://doodle.com/poll/6gq8fphkw9t8wi8r 7 people have participated. I will close the poll at the end of Thursday (today). Wednesday at 8am EDT appears to be the winner so far. -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJY5mawAAoJEJVM4Vb9/EKQha8IAJ5iDI6QFIHn+VsMYtgvjZFP fhow79zp7FSlKg5TiQu/e81EDDQbTnkDAP/hlI2lmPfkb2OiY8zXZh1CN9VL53po mobMHx9nvOJBLMG/iRiJDikAlFdpiNEYPrgSe1ZoEQ3hakggAn1elXOVacZt/Mz8 96QM8mjHtjimRsGXWAheubo/9KIuLREu4BT3lyL6ERAo8bDDfEH7MkHteBgsqGIa 15rz0eoA/BFs9/MMG/zODTwkxdGxa/kcusLWh+D3UFgAmW5MbH2lKaTko6Xgk5wk vsKrJpEnCGcifiwD5D2b5P/2rAc8oSuAklDDXv5binbysU8Q5wKimdLUGqNh2/w= =Iy/j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Thu Apr 6 14:55:44 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B60D129684 for <6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 6 Apr 2017 14:55:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1Qo4SELjM5Id for <6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 6 Apr 2017 14:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.sandelman.ca (relay.cooperix.net [IPv6:2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:de77]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2ED8F128DF3 for <6tisch-security@ietf.org>; Thu, 6 Apr 2017 14:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dooku.sandelman.ca (unknown [66.171.166.114]) by relay.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54C561F8F5; Thu, 6 Apr 2017 21:55:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dooku.sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id 3521F2918; Thu, 6 Apr 2017 16:55:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Richardson To: 6tisch-security@ietf.org X-Attribution: mcr X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.6; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 17:55:37 -0400 Message-ID: <27133.1491515737@dooku.sandelman.ca> Archived-At: Subject: [6tisch-security] security meeting schedule until IETF99 X-BeenThere: 6tisch-security@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Extended Design Team for 6TiSCH security architecture <6tisch-security.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 21:55:42 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain The result of the doodle poll now favours Monday 2017-04-10 at 11am EDT. That's 1500 UTC, I think. There will be no time changes between now and IETF99, so the choice of anchor should not matter. I would like to use JITSI, using the URL: https://jitsi.tools.ietf.org/6tischsec (because I'm totally annoyed at webex) I encourage you to visit the site prior to Monday. There is no PSTN dial-in provisions, but it does work on pretty much every platform that has webrtc, even, I think, Microsoft Edge, but probably not Opera, and maybe not Safari(?). The series of meetings will be: 2017-04-10 2017-04-24 2017-05-08 2017-05-22 (a holiday in Canada, let's discuss) 2017-06-05 2017-06-19 2017-07-10 IETF99 is 2017-07-15 through 2017-07-21 The overall agenda is: 1) finish 6tisch-minimal-security, with hooks to zero-touch. Get this to WGLC by IETF99. 2) finish sketch of zero-touch document indicating how it fills in the hooks. Get this close to WGLC by IETF99. 3) work on enhanced-beacon document, should WG adopt it. 4) work on rekey document, should WG adopt it. The agenda for Monday is: 1) review of IETF99, make sure we have all actions collected. 2) OSCOAP/EDHOC: learn what we need to do, and in which WGs to advance is such that we can use it. 3) other business? -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJY5rlZAAoJEJVM4Vb9/EKQhuMIAIuiXyhinLskUMZiDzow0/EX l6KTzm6GuNuBBXP+0zprv3GeKf/0MWOpgrDdguEU0BnYA5evWmbonv/VxxJX1lbT MFerrIluZqNnOyaxs4B21YXYgjDEzqRm0EgRU1QJ8N46K+02e/ugN2jIkpCCqR+x iXxsuU1b/4p+8z93LWrbI9gIokQ0Pw06wX83hsvHY67mGM3BJlIBSzGXkZAgoFl8 wx7aBY/sp9bCU0vRAtfKLmD1gjhTUEo/nlRjoQyYBgbOFM5EV/rltv5QGOFqIt/7 w8oT/W0WwpiXVK9/pI4GH6zqNF1S3O+SITBbr4iLJ7dSwuWk2txPPxhHmAWPNGU= =3ald -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Thu Apr 6 14:56:37 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C35B1294BB for <6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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Mon, 10 Apr 2017 11:00:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson to: 6tisch-security@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <27133.1491515737@dooku.sandelman.ca> References: <27133.1491515737@dooku.sandelman.ca> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.6+dev; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 11:00:37 -0400 Message-ID: <14329.1491836437@obiwan.sandelman.ca> Archived-At: Subject: [6tisch-security] URGENT --- New URL Re: security meeting schedule until IETF99 X-BeenThere: 6tisch-security@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Extended Design Team for 6TiSCH security architecture <6tisch-security.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:00:39 -0000 Michael Richardson wrote: > The result of the doodle poll now favours Monday 2017-04-10 at 11am EDT. > That's 1500 UTC, I think. There will be no time changes between now and > IETF99, so the choice of anchor should not matter. > I would like to use JITSI, using the URL: > https://jitsi.tools.ietf.org/6tischsec This is failing. As soon as the second person connects, it dies. Please try: https://appear.in/6tischsec -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [ From nobody Mon Apr 10 08:03:32 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80305129502 for <6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 08:03:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pj4n0hwO78ay for <6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 08:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE550129534 for <6tisch-security@ietf.org>; 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Mali=C5=A1a > On 14 Apr 2017, at 20:38, Michael Richardson = wrote: >=20 > I have a (command performance) meeting that impacts our April 24 11am = EST time. > I hope that it will go ahead without me. >=20 > (Alternatively, that we can move it one hour forward) --Apple-Mail=_BCA6656F-6F2A-47A1-AA1C-A7FB4BE0C5E3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I propose then to cancel the today=E2=80=99s meeting and have = the one in two weeks instead.

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On = 14 Apr 2017, at 20:38, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:

I have a (command performance) meeting that = impacts our April 24 11am EST time.
I hope that it will go ahead without = me.

(Alternatively, = that we can move it one hour forward)

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AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC62E12ECEF; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4186B2055A; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:14:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from obiwan.sandelman.ca (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A897636E0; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:49:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Fred Baker cc: draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal-security@ietf.org, 6tisch-security@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <834D3954-2B6A-4036-BFFD-48B2613AB60D@gmail.com> References: <834D3954-2B6A-4036-BFFD-48B2613AB60D@gmail.com> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.6+dev; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: Re: [6tisch-security] Question re draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal-security X-BeenThere: 6tisch-security@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Extended Design Team for 6TiSCH security architecture <6tisch-security.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 13:49:26 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Fred Baker wrote: > The specification makes a number of comments about an IPv6 address > based on EUI64. RFC 7217/7721 provides a way to build a stable IPv6 > address that is not based on the MAC address, and > draft-gont-6man-address-usage-recommendations (which has not been > adopted, but which I presume will eventually be adopted) recommends > using it. What plans might 6tisch have in that direction? I thought we dealt with this in the "Privacy Considerations" section, which is attached. These aren't iPhones that wander from starbucks to starbucks. In the 6tisch-minimal with PSK-based authorization, it doesn't much matter how the IID is generated. It's essentially never used for security function, in fact, many of the devices out there just make up non-stable random EUI64s and IIDs on each boot anyway. Many consider that a bug. In the zero-touch situation, we expect the 802.1AR IDevID certificate to include the IID. If the manufacturer wants to run 7217 in the factory and produce the IID that way, they can/should do that. This obscures the manufacturers' IEEE assigned 32-bit OUI, which can be seen as privacy enhancing, but may be very security negative when it comes to auditing. Once in production, we replace all 8-byte EUIs (and derived IPv6 IIDs) with 2-byte assigned addresses. This is the text from the draft: # Privacy Considerations This specification relies on the uniqueness of EUI64 that is transferred in clear as part of the security context identifier. (EDNOTE: should we say IID here?) Privacy implications of using such long-term identifier are discussed in {{RFC7721}} and comprise correlation of activities over time, location tracking, address scanning and device-specific vulnerability exploitation. Since the join protocol is executed rarely compared to the network lifetime, long-term threats that arise from using EUI64 are minimal. In addition, the join response message contains an optional short address which can be assigned by JRC to the pledge. The short address is independent of the long-term identifier EUI64 and is encrypted in the response. For that reason, it is not possible to correlate the short address with the EUI64 used during the join. Use of short addresses once the join protocol completes mitigates the aforementioned privacy risks. In addition, EDHOC may be used for identity protection during the join protocol by generating a random context identifier in place of the EUI64 {{I-D.selander-ace-cose-ecdhe}}. -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAlj/U+IACgkQgItw+93Q 3WU/AwgAlf7f1uUuPp6cPFPxcUPIIYjbHxYPgo+6HrEkIcAWkVI9RMPehzObeITu cdR+YWHetcQljUE6luLDtpGRwML1E6go8EoK4Q6l0jHUohzaQPziJcu4rTAk+m7Y KxP856hX1l/3yPKabbQ8owYTJ4sIKlKUbzvZYeO6kUEZsr5r50NNWsWCI/Gew+Xj zL/5aceN/S12aLZ1sVFdnd25YEVipkJxGEMXIDQQvBp+h9uUDxsTiYxJNFmEuXrK o3qzhBPHZ/5ne4bHGaZESwpr5gEyMLuNuNp37bNG+E4zNqQr/BMzDDLss9tLu8Ib 382qpZIz9yo7uzeKCBqte+ZHScPCqQ== =VQx8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--