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The local host site is here: http://www.ietf76.jp/ The venue hotel (ANA Crowne Plaza) is full or nearly full, so if you don't have a hotel booked yet, use the overflow hotel booking system provided by the Japan Travel Bureau (JTB): http://entry.jtb.ne.jp/me/registrye/registrye.asp?id=1202 If you are considering getting a Japan Rail Pass for travel on JR trains (except the Nozomi Super Express), please note that these passes MUST be purchased BEFORE you arrive in Japan. For more information see: http://www.japanrailpass.net/eng/en001.html The most useful website for train planning is Hyperdia: http://www.hyperdia.com/cgi-english/hyperWeb.cgi ... which gives you information about train times and prices. My suggestion is to write down a few options and hand the piece of paper to a JR travel agent (available at most train stations as well as at Narita and Kansai airports). My own unofficial information guide can be found here: http://hiroshima-info.info Both the IETF76 host site and my own pages are frequently updated. Recent updates include information about electronic stores in Hiroshima. I'll be in Tokyo from October 31 to November 6 if anyone is planning to stop there on their way to Hiroshima and you want to get together and get a tour of Akihabara or perhaps C.B. Fisk Opus 110 http://www.yaf.or.jp/mmh/about/pipe-e.html (no guarantees on that one, but I will ask). If you have any questions, just drop me a note, if I don't know the answer I'll try to get it for you! See you Hiroshima! Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From ole@cisco.com Thu Oct 8 10:06:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2973A6AA4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:06:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.615 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.615 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.016, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hoGDFPyJX1s2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E903A6902 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:06:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=208; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport03001; t=1255021705; x=1256231305; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20|Reply-To:=20Ole =20Jacobsen=20|Subject:=20Test=20message, =20please=20ignore|Date:=20Thu,=208=20Oct=202009=2010:07: 56=20-0700=20(PDT)|Message-ID:=20|To:=2076attendees@ietf.org |MIME-Version:=201.0; bh=qT6TilD9FLTYjrXr1LiYybdpgf/i/3IRY2oN+4Dt6Vo=; b=gDTUR0QMUsVevdcBfNroxFXjfNgE7y7n/Oo5Jcjbwj/vHyyhO6+lOk0y 1Xagd+dfjDRhElb2PDIKrSwKINKWZpuJZiGvP8gMUbiqs/vmA/X5xUMLR aBq+ttv7S8cxbzbEzD/NstDjnJQ8zNMPivg5u5oRJpqU8nc9EzCHOcdg4 w=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-3.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAFC5zUqrRN+J/2dsb2JhbADDG4EZCAGHdQmPEYJKgWAE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,526,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="195549904" Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.223.137]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Oct 2009 17:08:25 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n98H8Pen025272 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:08:25 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:07:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [76attendees] Test message, please ignore X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:06:43 -0000 Just a test. 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Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From turners@ieca.com Fri Oct 9 10:05:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF7428C1E8 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:05:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.435 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.435 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.436, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AhVHErEqrRj1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp103.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp103.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.217]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AEBF28C1E7 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5058 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2009 17:07:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thunderfish.local) (turners@96.241.5.100 with plain) by smtp103.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 17:07:21 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qPTWNAeswBAtDTSn9GKlmmL3C90ke7grn_5n9To- X-YMail-OSG: 88oG0o8VM1lMgvslFlVBdF1Bfe52zD4tdPbX5dEpISPfv9V2YhMtNDt_16XgcLO2SrL2c0vFpQBNgu5QfDggK9IDyZyAkFJ1HAZhFf9GTXsP46uglHdcRal9RRLfXCo.V50ncdj1Lfk4vTZHAbz2YGe18vjRY7pPt4M.wo477EPI24SfZvcRdHaIO8BHQJP4dX51nkURkqE8Feug47S5GN1KpIYyiA00yIY3CXjoZ2D.EbE6FdGkxeV7ZWEjwcUwbR7OXHbDMVi2zXSA8IDiXpT9oKqzBeIouex6dqD8a.xY58mPoG8KAfPObLX4zYadQaElx1c_fQfDPHrXAA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:07:20 -0400 From: Sean Turner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:05:42 -0000 The host site says this about the train fare rom Narita to Hiroshima: Take a Narita Express (1hr. 12 min., every 30 min.) to Shinagawa Station then change to Shinkansen "Nozomi" to JR Hiroshima Station (4 hrs., 3 trains/hour). The fare is 20,440 JPY. Please buy your ticket through to Hiroshima Station at the JR Ticket Office in the basement level of Narita Airport Terminal-1 or Terminal-2. Is that the fare for Narita-Hiroshima or just from Shinagawa-Hiroshima? And, is it a one way or round trip fare? Thanks, spt From kpfleming@digium.com Fri Oct 9 10:07:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C393C28C1EA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:07:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.377 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.377 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.930, BAYES_20=-0.74, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B1F8TSPkLpCS for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.digium.com (mail.digium.com [216.207.245.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59E928C1ED for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiler.digium.internal ([10.19.29.150] helo=jupiler.digium.com) by mail.digium.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MwIyC-0001rD-1l for 76attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:09:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09293DFC827 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:09:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from jupiler.digium.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jupiler.digium.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cYkstQVfMfuN for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:09:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Authenticated User (jupiler.digium.com) with ESMTP id 9FD5FDFC82A Message-ID: <4ACF6E4A.6090902@digium.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:09:30 -0500 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" Organization: Digium, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> In-Reply-To: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=05FB8DB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:07:48 -0000 Sean Turner wrote: > The host site says this about the train fare rom Narita to Hiroshima: > > Take a Narita Express (1hr. 12 min., every 30 min.) to Shinagawa Station > then change to Shinkansen "Nozomi" to JR Hiroshima Station (4 hrs., 3 > trains/hour). The fare is 20,440 JPY. Please buy your ticket through to > Hiroshima Station at the JR Ticket Office in the basement level of > Narita Airport Terminal-1 or Terminal-2. > > Is that the fare for Narita-Hiroshima or just from Shinagawa-Hiroshima? > And, is it a one way or round trip fare? It's one-way, from Shinagawa-Hiroshima. A JR pass is cheaper than two one-way fares, but you can't use the Nozomi trains so the trip takes a bit longer. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org From ole@cisco.com Fri Oct 9 10:08:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E522F28C1EC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:08:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.614 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.614 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id piDUR73ZyFBJ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com (sj-iport-2.cisco.com [171.71.176.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D88928C1EA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:08:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=1170; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport02001; t=1255108222; x=1256317822; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20|Reply-To:=20Ole =20Jacobsen=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[76attende es]=20Question=20About=20the=20Train=20Fare|Date:=20Fri, =209=20Oct=202009=2010:09:53=20-0700=20(PDT)|Message-ID: =20|To: =20Sean=20Turner=20|cc:=2076attendees@i etf.org|MIME-Version:=201.0|In-Reply-To:=20<4ACF6DC8.3070 108@ieca.com>|References:=20<4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com>; bh=Z5WoX3WkScY8cDQrlbONuJl+GOGa2W88S5+vh1TC7pU=; b=YmeGa64boKy7q4cDwXbdfgReEiPhHk7oB60mjwIU8VPb56/GKEpSExCA ibMAO6Iz/bQpiM11qHDRjwXxshRM2FO4LKH2V58w4Hn8p7sVrqkuPwJyf kf/JafSj03CvfrNO5dV9LTI36KR7O7Ewop6sFqdluOvCnmoftAKAinCgy A=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AukFAEcLz0qrR7H+/2dsb2JhbACDAsANgRkIAYd2CY8ngkyBYAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,533,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="213085552" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2009 17:10:22 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99HAMJ8015018; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:10:22 GMT Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:09:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Sean Turner In-Reply-To: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> Message-ID: References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:08:39 -0000 Sean, See hiroshima-info.info and use the Hyperdia link. Enter Narita and Hiroshima as start/end points and it will give you the total fare (use the pulldown to select the fare type). Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Sean Turner wrote: > The host site says this about the train fare rom Narita to Hiroshima: > > Take a Narita Express (1hr. 12 min., every 30 min.) to Shinagawa Station then > change to Shinkansen "Nozomi" to JR Hiroshima Station (4 hrs., 3 > trains/hour). The fare is 20,440 JPY. Please buy your ticket through to > Hiroshima Station at the JR Ticket Office in the basement level of Narita > Airport Terminal-1 or Terminal-2. > > Is that the fare for Narita-Hiroshima or just from Shinagawa-Hiroshima? > And, is it a one way or round trip fare? > > Thanks, > > spt > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > From ole@cisco.com Fri Oct 9 10:10:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7812228C1F2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:10:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.614 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.614 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Sr+Sv-TbhyKg for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17AF528C1E8 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:10:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=358; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport01001; t=1255108322; x=1256317922; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20|Reply-To:=20Ole =20Jacobsen=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[76attende es]=20Question=20About=20the=20Train=20Fare|Date:=20Fri, =209=20Oct=202009=2010:11:33=20-0700=20(PDT)|Message-ID: =20|To: =20"Kevin=20P.=20Fleming"=20|cc:=20 76attendees@ietf.org|MIME-Version:=201.0|In-Reply-To:=20< 4ACF6E4A.6090902@digium.com>|References:=20<4ACF6DC8.3070 108@ieca.com>=20<4ACF6E4A.6090902@digium.com>; bh=lMfr7XmvV0Z5ffeP+KGQbBPOjrzp5NaxZdWtLz+hD+c=; b=ptGCJrYIyadfoqbzR8o5XmUsA0JqBsoTKDiw4WskDtQZQIcLhhR/NFEG R4gOjjidVqzSwQJhBUiUcNVexFKB7o/YQ98C78sd6HmY/zPaA6dBGXkYY AUVw6K4NV5C7exgzyORmC74NwV8wpu60xiP9H9M6nM5rlNXHUwhRvf5rC w=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAEcLz0qrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbADDD4EZCAGHdgmPJ4JMgWAE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,533,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="253643485" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2009 17:12:02 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99HC2Jh022232; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:12:02 GMT Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:11:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Kevin P. Fleming" In-Reply-To: <4ACF6E4A.6090902@digium.com> Message-ID: References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> <4ACF6E4A.6090902@digium.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:10:18 -0000 And rememeber what I said earlier about JR Rail Passes: You MUST get one BEFORE you come to Japan if you intend to use it. It is NOT available in Japan. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From Mike.Mangino@alcatel-lucent.com Fri Oct 9 10:13:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAC13A68B4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:13:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XFa03jnRm9Lp for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from audl953.usa.alcatel.com (audl953.usa.alcatel.com [143.209.238.162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E913A68A4 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usdalsbhs02.ad3.ad.alcatel.com (usdalsbhs02.usa.alcatel.com [172.22.216.13]) by audl953.usa.alcatel.com (ALCANET) with ESMTP id n99HFd0P025365; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:15:40 -0500 Received: from USDALSMBS01.ad3.ad.alcatel.com ([172.22.216.11]) by usdalsbhs02.ad3.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:15:39 -0500 Received: from USDALSMBS04.ad3.ad.alcatel.com ([172.22.216.10]) by USDALSMBS01.ad3.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:15:08 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:14:55 -0500 Message-ID: <91F87AB7EC28EA45B4F0C8677EBA3581028FCE54@USDALSMBS04.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare Thread-Index: AcpJA6E4iDaJfYfoShqXKgq0ny1rRwAACRsQ References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> <4ACF6E4A.6090902@digium.com> From: "MANGINO Mike" To: "Ole Jacobsen" , "Kevin P. Fleming" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2009 17:15:08.0152 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D12E780:01CA4904] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 143.209.238.34 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:13:59 -0000 The JR Rail pass exchange voucher can be ordered online from. http://www.amnet-usa.com/eng/a-etc/jrpass_terms.html Once you get your passport stamped you exchange your voucher for an actual pass. The 14 day ordinary pass was $500 US=20 Regards, Mike=20 -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ole Jacobsen Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:12 AM To: Kevin P. Fleming Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare And rememeber what I said earlier about JR Rail Passes: You MUST get one BEFORE you come to Japan if you intend to use it. It is NOT available in Japan. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From turners@ieca.com Fri Oct 9 10:38:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A76928C183 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:38:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.078, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NMEv2JVK9M3j for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp105.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp105.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.52.174]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 40EB528C18C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 46907 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2009 17:40:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thunderfish.local) (turners@96.241.5.100 with plain) by smtp105.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 17:40:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qPTWNAeswBAtDTSn9GKlmmL3C90ke7grn_5n9To- X-YMail-OSG: rNWPI2UVM1l43egm6Cu86dz3g624ZiQr_zuZLA2CdhqgSJ27FwU.M4qaulIBUnSDDthesQTHjHUcx7lExJHOYfB_CWIsySCOsCupi8VnikYp8aeZiSKa1cYBQer2V0gokQKAKpr7g1R9MmTm6_1B8dDM3YUbxM3hIq3nI.hDV_B0qfRM1mEesrjGT6afvheltyDYuJF.PJoQ7hGxqvC0lyr_25SwsmFKuk3lNVnJDuG7tUPY3erl_tRARJr.lwCW7FwqATnWtrl_ZOq_YUUaLRrycFlQx891Y3h0ZmVzcvu.dmEd64noKLtdqAkk7BoZp0PzwJcfzZbkrT.n4ySnZ8mN2vKA2opW.XbWRgNWF.VgQEXnGPth5Xn_Q0rVJQBFFfng2BNJ6gt_Yne2ObfF X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4ACF7596.8090104@ieca.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:40:38 -0400 From: Sean Turner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ole Jacobsen References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:38:58 -0000 Ole, I found the info on your site very helpful. Just to make sure I understand: you need to arrive at your final destination station before midnight. If I land at 16:20 (coming from the US), then the last Nomomi train you can catch to Hiroshima is the 19:50 train which gets you in at 23:56 or the last non-Nozomi train at 18:33 train which gets you in at 23:35. If you take out the Narita Express travel time, then that leaves about 4 (Nozomi) or 3 (non-Nozomi) hours to get through customs/immigration. Both seem do-able. My one burning question: Do they serve beer on the train? spt Ole Jacobsen wrote: > Sean, > > See hiroshima-info.info and use the Hyperdia link. Enter Narita and > Hiroshima as start/end points and it will give you the total fare > (use the pulldown to select the fare type). > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Sean Turner wrote: > >> The host site says this about the train fare rom Narita to Hiroshima: >> >> Take a Narita Express (1hr. 12 min., every 30 min.) to Shinagawa Station then >> change to Shinkansen "Nozomi" to JR Hiroshima Station (4 hrs., 3 >> trains/hour). The fare is 20,440 JPY. Please buy your ticket through to >> Hiroshima Station at the JR Ticket Office in the basement level of Narita >> Airport Terminal-1 or Terminal-2. >> >> Is that the fare for Narita-Hiroshima or just from Shinagawa-Hiroshima? >> And, is it a one way or round trip fare? >> >> Thanks, >> >> spt >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> >> > From turners@ieca.com Fri Oct 9 11:01:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4E028C22B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:01:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.674 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.674 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yRV2xHsT8mVk for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp106.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp106.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.52.175]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6217D28C172 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 99806 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2009 18:03:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thunderfish.local) (turners@96.241.5.100 with plain) by smtp106.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2009 18:03:11 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qPTWNAeswBAtDTSn9GKlmmL3C90ke7grn_5n9To- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4ACF7ADE.8080907@ieca.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:03:10 -0400 From: Sean Turner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ole Jacobsen References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> <4ACF7596.8090104@ieca.com> In-Reply-To: <4ACF7596.8090104@ieca.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:01:30 -0000 Sean Turner wrote: > Ole, > > I found the info on your site very helpful. Just to make sure I > understand: you need to arrive at your final destination station before > midnight. If I land at 16:20 (coming from the US), then the last Nomomi > train you can catch to Hiroshima is the 19:50 train which gets you in at > 23:56 or the last non-Nozomi train at 18:33 train which gets you in at > 23:35. If you take out the Narita Express travel time, then that leaves > about 4 (Nozomi) or 3 (non-Nozomi) hours to get through > customs/immigration. Both seem do-able. You can actually put in Narita - it says last train to make Hiroshima is 18:06 and that's only 1.5 hours for the transfer. > My one burning question: Do they serve beer on the train? > > spt > > Ole Jacobsen wrote: >> Sean, >> >> See hiroshima-info.info and use the Hyperdia link. Enter Narita and >> Hiroshima as start/end points and it will give you the total fare >> (use the pulldown to select the fare type). >> >> Ole >> >> >> Ole J. Jacobsen >> Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal >> Cisco Systems >> Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 >> E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj >> >> >> >> On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Sean Turner wrote: >> >>> The host site says this about the train fare rom Narita to Hiroshima: >>> >>> Take a Narita Express (1hr. 12 min., every 30 min.) to Shinagawa >>> Station then >>> change to Shinkansen "Nozomi" to JR Hiroshima Station (4 hrs., 3 >>> trains/hour). The fare is 20,440 JPY. Please buy your ticket through to >>> Hiroshima Station at the JR Ticket Office in the basement level of >>> Narita >>> Airport Terminal-1 or Terminal-2. >>> >>> Is that the fare for Narita-Hiroshima or just from >>> Shinagawa-Hiroshima? And, is it a one way or round trip fare? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> spt >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 76attendees mailing list >>> 76attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From ole@cisco.com Fri Oct 9 11:36:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68643A67CF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:36:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.614 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.614 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X-fZFgOmMUub for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B443A67FC for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:36:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=2778; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport06001; t=1255113512; x=1256323112; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20|Reply-To:=20Ole =20Jacobsen=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[76attende es]=20Question=20About=20the=20Train=20Fare|Date:=20Fri, =209=20Oct=202009=2011:38:03=20-0700=20(PDT)|Message-ID: =20|To: =20Sean=20Turner=20|cc:=2076attendees@i etf.org|MIME-Version:=201.0|In-Reply-To:=20<4ACF7596.8090 104@ieca.com>|References:=20<4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> =20=0D =0A=20<4ACF7596.8090104@ieca.com>; bh=DRczUasOXafgW4NdtOSiON6m+2VqduLdJIxFeBaNXN4=; b=SHF/9QkvClfIsIBRPmExbI/8UQ/VqBmcqeSNkmj4EY6ZXXZhhgTFiDWI jkAYPmOa/mRa3IjAQhtaYyZc6wpCokKj1E8QziP72GPDRJGMS89h867mr OBvJYuwlY4b4MxpBKWjA2ic83Ua6ly01a01yGip/iUJ5pRqZ5tDNhDhHk o=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AukFAHAfz0qrR7H+/2dsb2JhbACDAr9ZgRkIAYd2CY8egkyBYAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,533,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="405640142" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2009 18:38:32 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99IcWrN022618; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:38:32 GMT Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:38:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Sean Turner In-Reply-To: <4ACF7596.8090104@ieca.com> Message-ID: References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> <4ACF7596.8090104@ieca.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:36:47 -0000 Yes, your train needs to arrive before midnight in Hiroshima. Minimum journey time from Tokyo station is a little under 4 hours (3:47). The hyperdia link will show you options an connection time, best place to do that is Shinagawa, if you decide to do it in Tokyo give yourself some extra time, it is a BIG station. Yes, you can buy beer on the train. If you are in "Green Car" (first class) they bring around a cart, otherwise every train has a dining car and I think there are even vending machines on some trains. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Sean Turner wrote: > Ole, > > I found the info on your site very helpful. Just to make sure I understand: > you need to arrive at your final destination station before midnight. If I > land at 16:20 (coming from the US), then the last Nomomi train you can catch > to Hiroshima is the 19:50 train which gets you in at 23:56 or the last > non-Nozomi train at 18:33 train which gets you in at 23:35. If you take out > the Narita Express travel time, then that leaves about 4 (Nozomi) or 3 > (non-Nozomi) hours to get through customs/immigration. Both seem do-able. > > My one burning question: Do they serve beer on the train? > > spt > > Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > Sean, > > > > See hiroshima-info.info and use the Hyperdia link. Enter Narita and > > Hiroshima as start/end points and it will give you the total fare > > (use the pulldown to select the fare type). > > > > Ole > > > > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > > Cisco Systems > > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > > > > > On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Sean Turner wrote: > > > > > The host site says this about the train fare rom Narita to Hiroshima: > > > > > > Take a Narita Express (1hr. 12 min., every 30 min.) to Shinagawa Station > > > then > > > change to Shinkansen "Nozomi" to JR Hiroshima Station (4 hrs., 3 > > > trains/hour). The fare is 20,440 JPY. Please buy your ticket through to > > > Hiroshima Station at the JR Ticket Office in the basement level of Narita > > > Airport Terminal-1 or Terminal-2. > > > > > > Is that the fare for Narita-Hiroshima or just from Shinagawa-Hiroshima? > > > And, is it a one way or round trip fare? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > spt > >> _______________________________________________ > > > 76attendees mailing list > > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > > > > > > > > From jinmei@isc.org Fri Oct 9 11:37:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900413A67CF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:37:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ycc-1644aIDR for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mon.jinmei.org (mon.jinmei.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:36::162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9ED3A67FC for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jmb.jinmei.org (dhcp-219.sql1.isc.org [204.152.187.219]) by mon.jinmei.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 708BE33C37; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:39:03 -0700 Message-ID: From: JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= To: Sean Turner In-Reply-To: <4ACF7596.8090104@ieca.com> References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> <4ACF7596.8090104@ieca.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/22.1 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:37:45 -0000 At Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:40:38 -0400, Sean Turner wrote: > My one burning question: Do they serve beer on the train? Yes. --- JINMEI, Tatuya Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. From jinmei@isc.org Fri Oct 9 11:58:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CA73A68A1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:58:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 90yQim6RrHpN for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mon.jinmei.org (mon.jinmei.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:36::162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CCC3A681B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jmb.jinmei.org (dhcp-219.sql1.isc.org [204.152.187.219]) by mon.jinmei.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 5484C33C37; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:00:22 -0700 Message-ID: From: JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= To: Ole Jacobsen In-Reply-To: References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> <4ACF7596.8090104@ieca.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/22.1 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:58:38 -0000 At Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:38:03 -0700 (PDT), Ole Jacobsen wrote: > Yes, you can buy beer on the train. If you are in "Green Car" (first > class) they bring around a cart, otherwise every train has a dining > car and I think there are even vending machines on some trains. In Shinkansen (and probably NEX) they bug you with a cart even if you are in the "economy" class:-) I don't know if they have a *beer* vending machine on the train, but they certainly sell beers on platforms (if you don't mind the time lag before you actually drink it). --- JINMEI, Tatuya Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. From kato@wide.ad.jp Fri Oct 9 18:56:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E0A28C0F3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:56:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SJcUxxlOqwfy for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5258A3A6926 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (EM114-48-150-131.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp [114.48.150.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 300CC7FB80 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:57:30 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA29E7D1D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:57:26 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:57:26 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091010.105726.251139014.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Akira Kato In-Reply-To: <91F87AB7EC28EA45B4F0C8677EBA3581028FCE54@USDALSMBS04.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> References: <4ACF6E4A.6090902@digium.com> <91F87AB7EC28EA45B4F0C8677EBA3581028FCE54@USDALSMBS04.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:56:02 -0000 With JR Rail Pass, you can't board Nozomi trains as somebody else posted already -- there is no program such as "pay XXX JPY to board a Nozomi train", unfortunately. So you need to use Hikari trains. The travel time between Tokyo/Shinagawa and Hiroshima is about 50min longer and you need to change in Shin-Osaka (there is no Hikari train directly connecting Tokyo/Shinagawa and Hiroshima). Hikari trains depart twice an hour while Nozomi trains depart three times an hour in regular hours. The last Nozomi train to Hiroshma departs from Tokyo station (Not Narita Airport) at 19:50 while you need to take 18:33 Hikari train (need to change at Shin-Osaka) if you use JR Rail Pass. So I recommend to consider to purchase a JR Rail Pass only - if your itinerary is flexible (one night stay in Tokyo is possible for example) or - if you are traveling Japan before or after IETF meeting. See http://www.japanrailpass.net/ for detail. -- Akira Kato, WIDE Project From zartash@gmail.com Sat Oct 10 15:42:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08003A6881 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:42:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.438 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.438 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_BACKHAIR_52=1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0phclGZtmj9D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f175.google.com (mail-vw0-f175.google.com [209.85.212.175]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06FB3A6840 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vws5 with SMTP id 5so5213210vws.31 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:44:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:reply-to:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wqCejxaHQZLz4i5duuD1fmOuyzDSio6NMqHS/xNw5VY=; b=Xe5ASnGGcCo4GrH24Fck+4OJN8o7RHkwDwenY0x1VqRpmhXUII06RyEqsGtlQPTDfh Zq1BC2uRAbi5ibzUYayf1HRTzB1RkkUSxR6NawRTihm1nz61uvpSdWEZ9/99sU/47mnU pjjp/hd8yGaYQZtFvvNV0c7XzqjQUzxx3cTqg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=uvtnx958j/GSh1vTyLQ48hHgNDkYVBEiOHZJX+pfYOlYaddT2XbQggxGlw3E74UfZj CDosc5dNjKNBOC1w+bV1V9KhCrYYPwtPjtA26QKt+v9b6/GMmWMQYSRqmudatqueUSdG b5VqyRr96Ghxeri8TOC4DI9sKRWfa1SeSsVNU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: zartash@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.107.226 with SMTP id c34mr6258368vcp.69.1255214657629; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:44:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20091010.105726.251139014.kato@wide.ad.jp> References: <4ACF6E4A.6090902@digium.com> <91F87AB7EC28EA45B4F0C8677EBA3581028FCE54@USDALSMBS04.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> <20091010.105726.251139014.kato@wide.ad.jp> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 04:44:17 +0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bd8437c93d24163a Message-ID: <4fff97de0910101544s1a81ab98ke6d0b9a23a069874@mail.gmail.com> From: Zartash Uzmi To: Akira Kato Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09f8e5c14c8efe904759c6f92 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: zartash@stanfordalumni.org List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:44:48 -0000 --00c09f8e5c14c8efe904759c6f92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Akira Kato, I have a slight confusion regarding this discussion, especially not being able to buy the JR Rail Pass within Japan and not being able to board the Nozomi train. From the meeting website (http://www.ietf76.jp/access/), under the heading "From Kansai Airport" through which I (and presumably several others) will be traveling, the following information is given: "From Kansai International Airport, take the JR "Haruka" Express trainto Shin Osaka Station (45 min., every 30 min.) where you can board the Shinkansen either "Nozomi" or "Hikari" train to JR Hiroshima Station(1hr. 45 min. 3-4 times in an hour). The fare is 11,730 JPY down to Hirohima (one way, reserved seat). Please buy your ticket through Hiroshima at the JR Ticket Office in Kansai Airport to enjoy a discount. While there are non-reserved seats available on both the "Haruka" and the Shinakansen, it is recommended to reserve your seat." This information tells me that JR ticket office at Kansai will be able to provide tickets using which Nozomi can be boarded. Is that ticket different form the JR Rail Pass? If yes, why would one need a JR Rail Pass anyways if it restricts the travel? Thanks, Zartash On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Akira Kato wrote: > > With JR Rail Pass, you can't board Nozomi trains as somebody else > posted already -- there is no program such as "pay XXX JPY to board a > Nozomi train", unfortunately. So you need to use Hikari trains. The > travel time between Tokyo/Shinagawa and Hiroshima is about 50min > longer and you need to change in Shin-Osaka (there is no Hikari train > directly connecting Tokyo/Shinagawa and Hiroshima). Hikari trains > depart twice an hour while Nozomi trains depart three times an hour in > regular hours. > > The last Nozomi train to Hiroshma departs from Tokyo station (Not > Narita Airport) at 19:50 while you need to take 18:33 Hikari train > (need to change at Shin-Osaka) if you use JR Rail Pass. > > So I recommend to consider to purchase a JR Rail Pass only > - if your itinerary is flexible (one night stay in Tokyo is possible > for example) > or > - if you are traveling Japan before or after IETF meeting. > > See http://www.japanrailpass.net/ for detail. > > -- Akira Kato, WIDE Project > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > --00c09f8e5c14c8efe904759c6f92 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Akira Kato,

I have a slight confusion regarding this discussion, = especially not being able to buy the JR Rail Pass within Japan and not bein= g able to board the Nozomi train. From the meeting website (http://www.ietf76.jp/access/), under the head= ing "From Kansai Airport" through which I (and presumably several= others) will be traveling, the following information is given:

"From Kansai International Airport, take the JR &qu= ot;Haruka" Express train to Shin Osaka Station (45 min., every 30 = min.) where you can board the Shinkansen either "Nozomi" or "= ;Hikari" train to JR Hiroshima Station (1hr. 45 min. 3-4 times in an hour). The fare is 11,730 JPY down to Hirohima (one way, reserved seat). Please buy your ticket through Hiroshima at the JR Ticket Office in Kansai Airport to enjoy a discount. While there are non-reserved seats available on both the "Haruka" and the Shinakansen, it is recommended to reserve your s= eat."

This information tells me that JR ticket office at Kansai= will be able to provide tickets using which Nozomi can be boarded. Is that= ticket different form the JR Rail Pass? If yes, why would one need a JR Ra= il Pass anyways if it restricts the travel?

Thanks,
Zartash

On Sat, Oct 10, 20= 09 at 7:57 AM, Akira Kato <kato@wide.ad.jp> wrote:

With JR Rail Pass, you can't board Nozomi trains as somebody else
posted already -- there is no program such as "pay XXX JPY to board a<= br> Nozomi train", unfortunately. So you need to use Hikari trains. The travel time between Tokyo/Shinagawa and Hiroshima is about 50min
longer and you need to change in Shin-Osaka (there is no Hikari train
directly connecting Tokyo/Shinagawa and Hiroshima). Hikari trains
depart twice an hour while Nozomi trains depart three times an hour in
regular hours.

The last Nozomi train to Hiroshma departs from Tokyo station (Not
Narita Airport) at 19:50 while you need to take 18:33 Hikari train
(need to change at Shin-Osaka) if you use JR Rail Pass.

So I recommend to consider to purchase a JR Rail Pass only
- if your itinerary is flexible (one night stay in Tokyo is possible
=A0for example)
or
- if you are traveling Japan before or after IETF meeting.

See http://www.= japanrailpass.net/ for detail.

-- Akira Kato, WIDE Project


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--00c09f8e5c14c8efe904759c6f92-- From kato@wide.ad.jp Sun Oct 11 03:02:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DD03A6890 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:02:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zUt3PO8cHPCd for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10323A68A0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (unknown [IPv6:2001:240:5b:1:21f:3bff:fec6:73bd]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D02057FBA0; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:03:58 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69320E7D1D; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:03:58 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:03:58 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091011.190358.260419399.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: zartash@stanfordalumni.org From: Akira Kato In-Reply-To: <4fff97de0910101544s1a81ab98ke6d0b9a23a069874@mail.gmail.com> References: <91F87AB7EC28EA45B4F0C8677EBA3581028FCE54@USDALSMBS04.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> <20091010.105726.251139014.kato@wide.ad.jp> <4fff97de0910101544s1a81ab98ke6d0b9a23a069874@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:02:13 -0000 Dear Zartash, The information described in http://www.ietf76.jp/access/ never assume that you are with a Japan Rail Pass holder. You need to buy a regular ticket to Hiroshima and the price is based on a Nozomi train. If you are going to use a Japan Rail Pass, you can board Haruka express train down to Shin-Osaka with the pass, but you need to take a Hikari train which departs twice an hour from Shin-Osaka to Hiroshima. -- Akira Kato From: Zartash Uzmi Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 04:44:17 +0600 > Hi Akira Kato, > = > I have a slight confusion regarding this discussion, especially not b= eing able > to buy the JR Rail Pass within Japan and not being able to board the = Nozomi > train. From the meeting website (http://www.ietf76.jp/access/), under= the > heading "From Kansai Airport" through which I (and presumably several= others) > will be traveling, the following information is given: > = > "From Kansai International Airport, take the JR "Haruka" Express trai= n to Shin > Osaka Station (45 min., every 30 min.) where you can board the Shinka= nsen > either "Nozomi" or "Hikari" train to JR Hiroshima Station (1hr. 45 mi= n. 3-4 > times in an hour). The fare is 11,730 JPY down to Hirohima (one way, = reserved > seat). Please buy your ticket through Hiroshima at the JR Ticket Offi= ce in > Kansai Airport to enjoy a discount. While there are non-reserved seat= s > available on both the "Haruka" and the Shinakansen, it is recommended= to > reserve your seat." > = > This information tells me that JR ticket office at Kansai will be abl= e to > provide tickets using which Nozomi can be boarded. Is that ticket dif= ferent > form the JR Rail Pass? If yes, why would one need a JR Rail Pass anyw= ays if it > restricts the travel? > = > Thanks, > Zartash > = > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Akira Kato wrote: > = > With JR Rail Pass, you can't board Nozomi trains as somebody else= > posted already -- there is no program such as "pay XXX JPY to boa= rd a > Nozomi train", unfortunately. So you need to use Hikari trains. T= he > travel time between Tokyo/Shinagawa and Hiroshima is about 50min > longer and you need to change in Shin-Osaka (there is no Hikari t= rain > directly connecting Tokyo/Shinagawa and Hiroshima). Hikari trains= > depart twice an hour while Nozomi trains depart three times an ho= ur in > regular hours. > = > The last Nozomi train to Hiroshma departs from Tokyo station (Not= > Narita Airport) at 19:50 while you need to take 18:33 Hikari trai= n > (need to change at Shin-Osaka) if you use JR Rail Pass. > = > So I recommend to consider to purchase a JR Rail Pass only > - if your itinerary is flexible (one night stay in Tokyo is possi= ble > =A0for example) > or > - if you are traveling Japan before or after IETF meeting. > = > See http://www.japanrailpass.net/ for detail. > = > -- Akira Kato, WIDE Project > = > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > = From ole@cisco.com Sun Oct 11 03:03:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B093D3A681E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:03:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.114 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.114 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.515, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_BACKHAIR_52=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6sRpwyt077DS for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com (sj-iport-5.cisco.com [171.68.10.87]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D85D3A6890 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:03:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=3739; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport05001; t=1255255510; x=1256465110; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20|Reply-To:=20Ole =20Jacobsen=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[76attende es]=20Question=20About=20the=20Train=20Fare|Date:=20Sun, =2011=20Oct=202009=2003:04:40=20-0700=20(PDT)|Message-ID: =20|To: =20Zartash=20Uzmi=20|cc:=20Ak ira=20Kato=20,=2076attendees@ietf.org |MIME-Version:=201.0|In-Reply-To:=20<4fff97de0910101544s1 a81ab98ke6d0b9a23a069874@mail.gmail.com>|References:=20<4 ACF6E4A.6090902@digium.com>=20=0D=0A=20<91F87AB7EC28EA45B4F0C867 7EBA3581028FCE54@USDALSMBS04.ad3.ad.alcatel.com>=0D=0A=20 <20091010.105726.251139014.kato@wide.ad.jp>=0D=0A=20<4fff 97de0910101544s1a81ab98ke6d0b9a23a069874@mail.gmail.com>; bh=7a9Ta8zbwhSofTTzf0xjg0ECquX0HPtMUpsDvXbtJRY=; b=MfYNIy5g0B5xWGIZOSuADEj6aJjgX1jh8ocRA3/dJY2pLhyDrpsQDjAT A34v9CdEffVQjXUAN7S4A/friyMmhi7137lymr6xO4pp3rROoyQW/EbNe JPb4w9STl8yqwPFfqagPDccNMbuAyAO6CBs4sQtiuzFbGwPD+A/YhHS9j M=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-5.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAG5K0UqrR7H+/2dsb2JhbAC+fYEZCAGHdAmNWoJMgWEEgVg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,541,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="98284849" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Oct 2009 10:05:10 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9BA5AEs026214; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:05:10 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:04:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Zartash Uzmi In-Reply-To: <4fff97de0910101544s1a81ab98ke6d0b9a23a069874@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4ACF6E4A.6090902@digium.com> <91F87AB7EC28EA45B4F0C8677EBA3581028FCE54@USDALSMBS04.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> <20091010.105726.251139014.kato@wide.ad.jp> <4fff97de0910101544s1a81ab98ke6d0b9a23a069874@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:03:22 -0000 The JR Rail Pass is a discount pass for foreign visitors, similar to Eurail (http://www.eurail.com/) which allows unlimited travel for a certain period within Japan. So, you can buy JR tickets at th JR office at Kansai or Narita or at basically any JR station in Japan, but you can NOT buy the unlimited travel ticket for visitors once you are in Japan. See: http://www.japanrailpass.net/eng/en003.html A JR Railpass does not "restrict travel" in fact it gives you virtually unlimited travel within a given time period, however, it is, as Kato san says, not valid on ONE kind of Shinkansen train. You could certainly travel from Kansai to Hiroshima and back on a JR Railpss, but you would not be able to do so on the absolute fastest express train. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Sun, 11 Oct 2009, Zartash Uzmi wrote: > Hi Akira Kato, > > I have a slight confusion regarding this discussion, especially not being > able to buy the JR Rail Pass within Japan and not being able to board the > Nozomi train. From the meeting website (http://www.ietf76.jp/access/), under > the heading "From Kansai Airport" through which I (and presumably several > others) will be traveling, the following information is given: > > "From Kansai International Airport, take the JR "Haruka" Express > trainto > Shin Osaka Station (45 min., every 30 min.) where you can board the > Shinkansen either "Nozomi" or "Hikari" train to JR Hiroshima > Station(1hr. 45 min. 3-4 > times in an hour). The fare is 11,730 JPY down to Hirohima > (one way, reserved seat). Please buy your ticket through Hiroshima at the JR > Ticket Office in Kansai Airport to enjoy a discount. While there are > non-reserved seats available on both the "Haruka" and the Shinakansen, it is > recommended to reserve your seat." > > This information tells me that JR ticket office at Kansai will be able to > provide tickets using which Nozomi can be boarded. Is that ticket different > form the JR Rail Pass? If yes, why would one need a JR Rail Pass anyways if > it restricts the travel? > > Thanks, > Zartash > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Akira Kato wrote: > > > > > With JR Rail Pass, you can't board Nozomi trains as somebody else > > posted already -- there is no program such as "pay XXX JPY to board a > > Nozomi train", unfortunately. So you need to use Hikari trains. The > > travel time between Tokyo/Shinagawa and Hiroshima is about 50min > > longer and you need to change in Shin-Osaka (there is no Hikari train > > directly connecting Tokyo/Shinagawa and Hiroshima). Hikari trains > > depart twice an hour while Nozomi trains depart three times an hour in > > regular hours. > > > > The last Nozomi train to Hiroshma departs from Tokyo station (Not > > Narita Airport) at 19:50 while you need to take 18:33 Hikari train > > (need to change at Shin-Osaka) if you use JR Rail Pass. > > > > So I recommend to consider to purchase a JR Rail Pass only > > - if your itinerary is flexible (one night stay in Tokyo is possible > > for example) > > or > > - if you are traveling Japan before or after IETF meeting. > > > > See http://www.japanrailpass.net/ for detail. > > > > -- Akira Kato, WIDE Project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > > > > > From eburger@standardstrack.com Sun Oct 11 18:06:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5803A67D2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:06:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q16qsxTV+AO3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gs19.inmotionhosting.com (gs19b.inmotionhosting.com [66.117.3.189]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E65F3A67D8 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip68-100-199-8.dc.dc.cox.net ([68.100.199.8] helo=[192.168.15.150]) by gs19.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mx9MR-00033U-I6 for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:06:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Eric Burger To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:06:07 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs19.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: [76attendees] Soccer? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:06:15 -0000 OK - this time I have mostly healed. Anyone up to try? Is our only option indoor? From christian.1.schmidt@nsn.com Mon Oct 12 01:26:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C833A6855 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:26:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id icO8kX1gXhLo for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (demumfd001.nsn-inter.net [217.115.75.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6546E3A6899 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.56]) by demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n9C8QiXi032246 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:26:44 +0200 Received: from demuexc024.nsn-intra.net (demuexc024.nsn-intra.net [10.159.32.11]) by demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n9C8Qf7R008393; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:26:44 +0200 Received: from DEMUEXC013.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.128.24]) by demuexc024.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:26:42 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:26:40 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare Thread-Index: AcpJAvyelQuZtI9GTgOdzrhvt6JjkgCD/QaA References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> From: "Schmidt, Christian 1. (NSN - DE/Munich)" To: "ext Sean Turner" , <76attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Oct 2009 08:26:42.0976 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA8E3A00:01CA4B15] Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:26:48 -0000 "It is recommended to check your car number printed on your ticket." Is it correct, that you make this seat reservation is done at the Airport Terminal? What happens, if you miss this train? Can you use the ticket for the next train or do you have to buy a new ticket? Are there free seats available for this purpose? How does it work in case of two-way tickets? - Do you have to decide the train back to Tokyo in advance? - Can you make the resevation in Hiroschima? Could it be, that you can not take a certain train, because of no spare seats? Do you have to take this into account in trip planning? Thanks, Christian =20 -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Sean Turner Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:07 PM To: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare The host site says this about the train fare rom Narita to Hiroshima: Take a Narita Express (1hr. 12 min., every 30 min.) to Shinagawa Station then change to Shinkansen "Nozomi" to JR Hiroshima Station (4 hrs., 3=20 trains/hour). The fare is 20,440 JPY. Please buy your ticket through to=20 Hiroshima Station at the JR Ticket Office in the basement level of=20 Narita Airport Terminal-1 or Terminal-2. Is that the fare for Narita-Hiroshima or just from Shinagawa-Hiroshima?=20 And, is it a one way or round trip fare? Thanks, spt _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From dromasca@avaya.com Mon Oct 12 03:52:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D5828C19B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 03:52:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.326 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.326 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.327, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bv8nGbbF5Psk for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 03:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDED3A6997 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 03:52:35 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,545,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="186624386" Received: from unknown (HELO nj300815-nj-erheast.avaya.com) ([198.152.6.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 12 Oct 2009 06:52:35 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.14]) by nj300815-nj-erheast-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 12 Oct 2009 06:52:35 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:52:12 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Questions about cash thread-index: AcpLKg3ZhIz4bKKuRJqVbOkMjGybng== From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: [76attendees] Questions about cash X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:52:36 -0000 I apologize in advance if these questions were already asked. If the answers are already available some place please provide the link.=20 - how much cash would we need (estimated) for food and current expenses? - how common is the usage of credit cards in cabs, restaurants, fast food places, coffee places, etc.?=20 - can we buy the well discussed train tickets with credit cards?=20 - is keying the PIN required when paying by credit card?=20 - do ATMs have an English UI?=20 - if one runs out of Japanese currency is foreign currency (USD, Euros) accepted, and is the rate reasonable?=20 Thanks and Regards, Dan From ole@cisco.com Mon Oct 12 05:40:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D123A63EC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:40:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gFYa0Y2gyIMk for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749513A6866 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:39:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=3374; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport01001; t=1255351200; x=1256560800; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20|Reply-To:=20Ole =20Jacobsen=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[76attende es]=20Question=20About=20the=20Train=20Fare|Date:=20Mon, =2012=20Oct=202009=2005:39:29=20-0700=20(PDT)|Message-ID: =20|To: =20"Schmidt,=20Christian=201.=20(NSN=20-=20DE/Munich)"=20 |cc:=20ext=20Sean=20Turner =20,=2076attendees@ietf.org |MIME-Version:=201.0|In-Reply-To:=20 |References:=20<4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com>=20; bh=5yyboP/GjYuQkN8F5NM43OFk7VRMJnzD6JgrU0vDOv8=; b=aJATeKY8LZFhtOgNAcdQdbL/vPJr5eWuBq2uyBG+EpuXgdqJnglYLPPP QRCzabSWjRiZhwgYjoJxgtbGXuh3/Vs2U6yGd90GtRaiiyFu09Dbep7d8 58cZtomIf1lgpesx4hHwJKTAvKev7BfVna0cFQ9XBIeep0HwUa+yIaQea M=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAH/A0kqrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbAC/f4EZCAGHbQcBCI1FgkUHAYFgBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,545,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="254542950" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Oct 2009 12:39:59 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9CCdxaM025505; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:39:59 GMT Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:39:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Schmidt, Christian 1. (NSN - DE/Munich)" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:40:00 -0000 If you are travelling with a reserved seat ticket, then yes, the ticket has all the information. It is also possible to get a ticket for non-reserved cars. In that case you could use the ticket for any train. The FARE ticket is valid for any train so it's just the seat/car/train data that needs to be updated if you miss your train. The conductor can take care of the change. Yes, there are "free" (non-reserved) seats. The best thing is to make sure you have enough changeover time and enough time to get to the first train (typically the airport express train) and you won't have any issue. You can buy the train ticket in Hiroshima, just pop into the station anytime before you leave and get the ticket. I usually get mine a day or so before returning, but there are MANY trains and getting the train you want is usually not an issue. Use hyperdia for planning http://www.hyperdia.com/cgi-english/hyperWeb.cgi It also has a timetable feature so you can see how many trains there are (LOTS during the day). Kato san can correct me, but I don't think there is any savings in getting a return ticket so you might as well just get the outbound unless you are absolutely certain about the return time. Hope this helps. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Schmidt, Christian 1. (NSN - DE/Munich) wrote: > "It is recommended to check your car number printed on your ticket." > > Is it correct, that you make this seat reservation is done at the > Airport Terminal? > What happens, if you miss this train? Can you use the ticket for the > next train or do you have to buy a new ticket? Are there free seats > available for this purpose? > How does it work in case of two-way tickets? > - Do you have to decide the train back to Tokyo in advance? > - Can you make the resevation in Hiroschima? > Could it be, that you can not take a certain train, because of no spare > seats? Do you have to take this into account in trip planning? > > Thanks, > > Christian > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of ext Sean Turner > Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:07 PM > To: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare > > The host site says this about the train fare rom Narita to Hiroshima: > > Take a Narita Express (1hr. 12 min., every 30 min.) to Shinagawa Station > > then change to Shinkansen "Nozomi" to JR Hiroshima Station (4 hrs., 3 > trains/hour). The fare is 20,440 JPY. Please buy your ticket through to > Hiroshima Station at the JR Ticket Office in the basement level of > Narita Airport Terminal-1 or Terminal-2. > > Is that the fare for Narita-Hiroshima or just from Shinagawa-Hiroshima? > And, is it a one way or round trip fare? > > Thanks, > > spt > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From ole@cisco.com Mon Oct 12 05:50:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7FB28C1B0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:50:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5Pe2Wr7As7d8 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB2B28C18E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:50:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=1381; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport01001; t=1255351837; x=1256561437; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20|Reply-To:=20Ole =20Jacobsen=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[76attende es]=20Questions=20about=20cash|Date:=20Mon,=2012=20Oct=20 2009=2005:50:07=20-0700=20(PDT)|Message-ID:=20|To:=20"Romascanu, =20Dan=20(Dan)"=20|cc:=2076attendees@ ietf.org|MIME-Version:=201.0|In-Reply-To:=20|References:=20; bh=DTjiqlv/dz2/B+XYn5e6yTJ1dFzKIuccKUbWH7uyPxU=; b=Y0DKJlrqzpbO1lTPXLxktkdbQV78lS3E0sYv6Z0PSQjTr8TZHiInukd3 zq61aKOXB4aNMiTwtimWL1dPmvQeW7sObk7NionYJugnegqjubhXpyb02 ibJ39+evU3/P3KXvoEwJiKNLcrdh3iOXoDV98MW82vPIT4aTWhPpRxvQ3 M=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAObC0kqrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbADADYEZCAGGZI5dhC0EgVg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,546,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="254549138" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Oct 2009 12:50:37 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9CCobqp006271; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:50:37 GMT Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:50:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Questions about cash X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:50:40 -0000 On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > I apologize in advance if these questions were already asked. If the > answers are already available some place please provide the link. See links at bottom. > > - how much cash would we need (estimated) for food and current expenses? Depends on your habits, I'd start with the equivalent of $200 and see how many days that lasts you. > > - how common is the usage of credit cards in cabs, restaurants, fast > food places, coffee places, etc.? Very common. Most places take credit cards, including taxis, but out of habit I always use cash in cabs. (Journeys are typically short, if you want to go far, don't take a cab). > - can we buy the well discussed train tickets with credit cards? Yes. > - is keying the PIN required when paying by credit card? Usually not. > - do ATMs have an English UI? Yes. > - if one runs out of Japanese currency is foreign currency (USD, Euros) > accepted, and is the rate reasonable? Very rarely. The rate would not be too bad, if you managed to find say a department store that took dollars/euros, but there are plenty of ATMs around even if few are open 24 hours a day. See also: http://www.yikes.com/~ole/store/Hiroshima/Essentials.html and http://www.ietf76.jp/general/ > > Thanks and Regards, > > Dan > From kato@wide.ad.jp Mon Oct 12 08:08:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083A23A6822 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:08:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eYVcbDSCGoxr for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905A728C1B6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (unknown [IPv6:2001:240:5b:1:21f:3bff:fec6:73bd]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D79F7FBAF; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:08:38 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C61E7D1D; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:08:36 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:08:36 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091013.000836.122204317.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: christian.1.schmidt@nsn.com From: Akira Kato In-Reply-To: References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:08:44 -0000 I've add some info about JR ticket in "General" section of http://www.ietf76.jp/. -- Akira Kato From kpfleming@digium.com Mon Oct 12 08:21:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFC528C230 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:21:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.707 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.707 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4o6ZXwR2tmdu for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.digium.com (mail.digium.com [216.207.245.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B698D3A67B0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiler.digium.internal ([10.19.29.150] helo=jupiler.digium.com) by mail.digium.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MxMih-00043u-H2 for 76attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:21:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775E5DFC828 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:21:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from jupiler.digium.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jupiler.digium.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JLvuvFZuAKRa for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:21:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Authenticated User (jupiler.digium.com) with ESMTP id 1B058DFC827 Message-ID: <4AD34990.5010304@digium.com> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:21:52 -0500 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" Organization: Digium, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> <20091013.000836.122204317.kato@wide.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: <20091013.000836.122204317.kato@wide.ad.jp> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=05FB8DB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:21:56 -0000 Akira Kato wrote: > I've add some info about JR ticket in "General" section of > http://www.ietf76.jp/. For those of us who do purchase JR Passes (I have already received my Exchange Voucher), what is the process for reserving a seat on a Hikari or Kodami Shinkansen, or on the Narita Express, since we don't actually have to pay for the ticket or reservation fee? -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org From kato@wide.ad.jp Mon Oct 12 08:28:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDAE28C231 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:28:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J2qTfvt6MeHL for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F61828C22D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (unknown [IPv6:2001:240:5b:1:21f:3bff:fec6:73bd]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 536A17FBAF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:28:00 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E576EE7D1D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:27:59 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:27:59 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091013.002759.162956408.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Akira Kato In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Questions about cash X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:28:02 -0000 > - how much cash would we need (estimated) for food and current expenses? It depends what kind of food you have. There are Seven-Eleven convenience stores within walking distance from the venue where you may get cash with your bank card: http://www.sevenbank.co.jp/intlcard/index2.html I suggest to have at least 10,000 JPY (or 10 1,000 JPY bills) cash. > - how common is the usage of credit cards in cabs, restaurants, fast > food places, coffee places, etc.? Unlike United States, fastfood rastaurants and coffee places do not accept credit card. Many restraurants don't accept them in lunch time. Some shops restrict using credit card if the total amount is less than 3,000 JPY, for example. Cabs accept them. > - can we buy the well discussed train tickets with credit cards? VISA/Master/JCB/AMEX/Diners cards are accaptable. > - is keying the PIN required when paying by credit card? Yes. It is getting common in these days. > - do ATMs have an English UI? Visit a Seven-Eleven convenient store, and the ATM is w/ English mode. While ATM in a post office may accept your bank card, the opreation is very complicated. See http://www.ietf76.jp/general/ > - if one runs out of Japanese currency is foreign currency (USD, Euros) > accepted, and is the rate reasonable? Foreign currency is not accepted usually. -- Akira Kato From ole@cisco.com Mon Oct 12 08:28:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7407C28C21C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:28:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZLWyAilCVCPy for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com (sj-iport-2.cisco.com [171.71.176.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578E63A6816 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:28:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=1449; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport02001; t=1255361296; x=1256570896; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20|Reply-To:=20Ole =20Jacobsen=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[76attende es]=20Question=20About=20the=20Train=20Fare|Date:=20Mon, =2012=20Oct=202009=2008:27:34=20-0700=20(PDT)|Message-ID: =20|To: =20"Kevin=20P.=20Fleming"=20|cc:=20 76attendees@ietf.org|MIME-Version:=201.0|In-Reply-To:=20< 4AD34990.5010304@digium.com>|References:=20<4ACF6DC8.3070 108@ieca.com>=20=0D=0A=20<20091013.000836.12220 4317.kato@wide.ad.jp>=20<4AD34990.5010304@digium.com>; bh=nwGzim8neVYJxycnkU+Y1qKZSb2rQCprTeXfbeuMrCc=; b=A5Hagv0KQ8Pj/6pVX8oSRNED5ENAyYNhClrQJP+6o6mjZ2GrSwx528gg J6/YDa0JsNpbCMxn0nDGIewNbNQLFJR2+qDJlTYv7cpA88kYSqu2Ac65R x00arO5w1q4lyAoxrqbe6t/h/Yfh2rZeqrlwJTfKZAnPZZLhMQtBmP6GY 0=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAFfo0kqrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbADAN4EZCAGHdAmNXoJMgWEEgVg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,546,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="213575190" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Oct 2009 15:28:04 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9CFS3Hs003162; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:28:03 GMT Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:27:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Kevin P. Fleming" In-Reply-To: <4AD34990.5010304@digium.com> Message-ID: References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> <20091013.000836.122204317.kato@wide.ad.jp> <4AD34990.5010304@digium.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:28:16 -0000 This should have all been explained with what you got from the JR rail people but: Go to the JR travel center at Narita or Kansai and exchange the voucher for your pass and ticket. (Disclaimer: I've never actually used a JR Rail Pass, but that is how I understand it works and is how it works in the rest of the world.) See: http://www.japanrailpass.net/eng/en006.html ...and nearby links. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > Akira Kato wrote: > > I've add some info about JR ticket in "General" section of > > http://www.ietf76.jp/. > > For those of us who do purchase JR Passes (I have already received my > Exchange Voucher), what is the process for reserving a seat on a Hikari > or Kodami Shinkansen, or on the Narita Express, since we don't actually > have to pay for the ticket or reservation fee? > > -- > Kevin P. Fleming > Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies > 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA > skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com > Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From ole@cisco.com Mon Oct 12 08:32:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51283A690B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:32:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JHBKm0RFE3hc for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41313A6816 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:32:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=852; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport01001; t=1255361572; x=1256571172; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20|Reply-To:=20Ole =20Jacobsen=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[76attende es]=20Question=20About=20the=20Train=20Fare|Date:=20Mon, =2012=20Oct=202009=2008:32:09=20-0700=20(PDT)|Message-ID: =20|To: =20"Kevin=20P.=20Fleming"=20|cc:=20 76attendees@ietf.org|MIME-Version:=201.0|In-Reply-To:=20< Pine.GSO.4.63.0910120824160.6035@pita.cisco.com> |References:=20<4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com>=20 =0D=0A=20<20091013.000836.122204317.kato@wide.ad.jp>=20<4 AD34990.5010304@digium.com>=0D=0A=20; bh=09TL46RC3rPyMipPDjt6a+JLHhrOovKGvgTZjtymqY8=; b=W3HnorposGnPyQ9XTn3pSlQWb5Hx6LP1t5DcK25jky6zuJwLr52HVGyu 3PdN6WacsZWuNs+VnHNT72pwvs6lUDdGJFmQstgHU3z2iVAlC1Z5mzU+3 FV3fa+sMkGT1OXJz/e9qrq//ROGbdQdyOt69l8g7vWe1zO0/4u6yahgkm c=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAIPp0kqrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbADAQIEZCAGHdAmNXoJMgWEE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,546,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="254637926" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Oct 2009 15:32:39 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9CFWdMa008205; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:32:39 GMT Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:32:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Kevin P. Fleming" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> <20091013.000836.122204317.kato@wide.ad.jp> <4AD34990.5010304@digium.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:32:52 -0000 A little more info: * A non-reserved seat (except for NOZOMI trains on the Tokaido and Sanyo Shinkansen) can be used simply by showing your JAPAN RAIL PASS. * Seat reservations can be made without additional payment.To make a reservation, go to any Travel Service Center or a Reservation Office (Midori-no-madoguchi) at a JR station, or to the sales office of a JR-associated travel agency. There, show your PASS, and obtain your reserved-seat ticket before the boarding. (NOZOMI trains and the trains marked with *in table 2 require the payment of an additional charge.) (Above taken from http://www.japanrailpass.net/eng/en007.html ) Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From ole@cisco.com Mon Oct 12 16:07:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CD63A69D9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:07:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.574 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.574 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MbsB0XxQmtYw for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C763A6997 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:07:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=859; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport06001; t=1255388848; x=1256598448; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20|Reply-To:=20Ole =20Jacobsen=20|Subject:=20More=20About=20t he=20Train=20Fares|Date:=20Mon,=2012=20Oct=202009=2016:06 :58=20-0700=20(PDT)|Message-ID:=20|To:=20"Kevin=20P.=20Fleming" =20|cc:=2076attendees@ietf.org |MIME-Version:=201.0|In-Reply-To:=20|References:=20<4ACF6DC8.3070 108@ieca.com>=20=0D=0A=20<20091013.000836.12220 4317.kato@wide.ad.jp>=20<4AD34990.5010304@digium.com>=0D =0A=20 =0D=0A=20; bh=PPt79byYX+IxFPGlS9Z0s9Pb0SDjqU9akWesRoCYAuc=; b=feARWjKS19JL2/tGjkHTiGm2HH0UHfbXiDbLnp6DBzlST6yg4JwKBGp1 GFd1j6kOjHS9D4Y1/P8Mxo2CrYe3+VLvKq/WMm0fRQopuwp3sRwzl7LLh OtnU9RM7YlK9k7pseFSTh9T+3pIlFiB677nXdQ5qSc80/nfKfPXmCElkZ A=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAHNT00qrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbAC/QoEZCAGHdAmOAoJMgWEEgVg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,548,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="407752022" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Oct 2009 23:07:28 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9CN7Sx9005541; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:07:28 GMT Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:06:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Kevin P. Fleming" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> <20091013.000836.122204317.kato@wide.ad.jp> <4AD34990.5010304@digium.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] More About the Train Fares X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:07:28 -0000 Kato san has posted a detailed explanation of the JR ticket rules here: http://www.ietf76.jp/general/ Summary: There IS a discount for round-trip fares provided that you travel more than 600km in each direction. So, if you are able to plan exactly when to return, write down the info you get from the hyperdia link and present your entire journey to the JR agent at Narita (Kansai is too close to Hiroshima for the discount). General rule: If I say something, it's based on my experience from many visits to Japan, but Kato san lives in Japan and speak Japanese a lot better than I do. So you should trust his word, not mine, when in doubt. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From Martin.Thomson@andrew.com Mon Oct 12 16:10:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7993A6805 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:10:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.11 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 44IoSU7uhdvY for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrew.com (smtp3.andrew.com [198.135.207.235]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB133A67D9 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; 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Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:46:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UNSBpwD3NLeA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6793A687F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rmac.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Mxie3-000AoF-DQ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:46:35 +0000 Received: from rmac.local.psg.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rmac.psg.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3EF2B6A510; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:46:35 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: "Thomson, Martin" In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Questions about cash X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:46:40 -0000 > Based on my experience, and anecdotes from others who have travelled > recently, cash is very widely used. You will need cash for most > incidentals, the whole place runs on it. Hotels and anywhere that you > might make larger purchases will likely take credit card, but use cash > for restaurants, cafes, cabs, public transport, and so forth. correct. it's a cash culture. though more and more places take credit cards. but it's a safe culture and people carry what westerners would think of as large amounts of cash. > There is info on the ietf76.jp site on post offices and 7-11 stores, > which are pretty much the only places you will be able to use your > card (ATMs on the street are unlikely to accept your card). citibank atms, which are rare, but usually at airports, take western cards. randy From Guang.Lu@InterDigital.com Thu Oct 15 07:11:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9EE3A6978 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:11:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.67 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.67 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.930, BAYES_20=-0.74] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tAcNxyH9FZm0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from idcout.InterDigital.com (idcexmail.interdigital.com [12.32.197.135]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875F93A6975 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from interdigital.com ([10.0.128.11]) by idcout.InterDigital.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:11:32 -0400 Received: from SAM.InterDigital.com ([10.30.2.11]) by interdigital.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:10:56 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:10:55 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel Thread-Index: AcpLkMf2avZwkI5bQKiaeWRcsE1vXACDauKw References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com><20091013.000836.122204317.kato@wide.ad.jp><4AD34990.5010304@digium.com> From: "Lu, Guang" To: <76attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2009 14:10:56.0310 (UTC) FILETIME=[50242560:01CA4DA1] Subject: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:11:31 -0000 Hello,=20 Thank you for sharing the travel information. I found it very helpful.=20 I will arrive at the Hiroshima airport and booked the Rihga Royal Hotel Hiroshima hotel. From the hotel website it says "From Hiroshima Airport Board the airport limousine bus to the Hiroshima Bus Center. The ride is about 1 hour and costs 1,300 yen each way. The buses run from 8:30 to 21:20 from the airport, and 5:55 to 19:15 returning to the airport. Alternatively, take the taxi, also approximately 1 hour. The taxi costs about 15,000 yen including road tolls." It is not clear how frequent the limousine bus is, and I'm afraid that I may miss it since my flight arrives late.=20 Does anyone know if there is any other way to get to the hotel (or the area) besides taking a taxi?=20 Thanks and best regards, Guang -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ole Jacobsen Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:07 PM To: Kevin P. Fleming Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] More About the Train Fares Kato san has posted a detailed explanation of the JR ticket rules=20 here: http://www.ietf76.jp/general/ Summary: There IS a discount for round-trip fares provided that you=20 travel more than 600km in each direction. So, if you are able to plan exactly when to return, write down the info you get from the hyperdia link and present your entire journey to the JR agent at Narita (Kansai is too close to Hiroshima for the discount). General rule: If I say something, it's based on my experience from many visits to Japan, but Kato san lives in Japan and speak Japanese a lot better than I do. So you should trust his word, not mine, when in doubt. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From ole@cisco.com Thu Oct 15 07:21:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3A23A68E2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:21:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.58 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.58 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.019, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id txStTaGUkTpw for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6037D3A687E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:21:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=2933; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport06001; t=1255616495; x=1256826095; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20|Reply-To:=20Ole =20Jacobsen=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[76attende es]=20transport=20from=20Hiroshima=20airport=20to=20hotel |Date:=20Thu,=2015=20Oct=202009=2007:21:05=20-0700=20(PDT )|Message-ID:=20|To:=20"Lu,=20Guang"=20|cc:=2076attendees@ietf.org|MIME-Version:=201.0 |In-Reply-To:=20|References:=20<4ACF6DC8.3070108@ie ca.com><20091013.000836.122204317.kato@wide.ad. jp><4AD34990.5010304@digium.com>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20; bh=BfEjUAIIb+3RPB9Q7O+DrI9vYcfPaRaLtUu4VxlTZOI=; b=o84a0XACF7SCX8NYkXl6lfyfwA+wdz1fw/2yFbccr4zWAun9gh+Mx134 WUo44JmQd7Fc7ipwv1JFFa/PCphDYKeB51WCmoSmlE6Zr3DCYud3+Ft3n B+yDvQ/TpAZsk7NER2zb5i9IDbvOosFKiXfiY5PV1iVSZiQ+rTIldph9J M=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAPvM1kqrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbACkBZ4CgRkIAYd2CY8ygk6BYgSBWw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,566,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="409998588" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 15 Oct 2009 14:21:35 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9FELZiB027492; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:21:35 GMT Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:21:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Lu, Guang" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com><20091013.000836.122204317.kato@wide.ad.jp><4AD34990.5010304@digium.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:21:33 -0000 Google is your friend: http://www.hij.airport.jp/english/access/now/bus/b01.php You can also download the timetable in PDF format. http://www.hij.airport.jp/english/access/now/bus/pdf/b01_e.pdf That answers your question about frequency. You didn't say when your flight arrives. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Lu, Guang wrote: > Hello, > > Thank you for sharing the travel information. I found it very helpful. > > I will arrive at the Hiroshima airport and booked the Rihga Royal Hotel > Hiroshima hotel. From the hotel website it says > > "From Hiroshima Airport > Board the airport limousine bus to the Hiroshima Bus Center. The ride is > about 1 hour and costs 1,300 yen each way. The buses run from 8:30 to > 21:20 from the airport, and 5:55 to 19:15 returning to the airport. > Alternatively, take the taxi, also approximately 1 hour. The taxi costs > about 15,000 yen including road tolls." > > It is not clear how frequent the limousine bus is, and I'm afraid that I > may miss it since my flight arrives late. > > Does anyone know if there is any other way to get to the hotel (or the > area) besides taking a taxi? > > Thanks and best regards, > Guang > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Ole Jacobsen > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:07 PM > To: Kevin P. Fleming > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [76attendees] More About the Train Fares > > > Kato san has posted a detailed explanation of the JR ticket rules > here: http://www.ietf76.jp/general/ > > Summary: There IS a discount for round-trip fares provided that you > travel more than 600km in each direction. So, if you are able to > plan exactly when to return, write down the info you get from the > hyperdia link and present your entire journey to the JR agent at > Narita (Kansai is too close to Hiroshima for the discount). > > General rule: If I say something, it's based on my experience from > many visits to Japan, but Kato san lives in Japan and speak Japanese > a lot better than I do. So you should trust his word, not mine, when > in doubt. > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From ole@cisco.com Thu Oct 15 07:26:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E023A6914 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:26:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.582 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.582 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.017, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uRWCiwm6K-TL for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3913B3A635F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:26:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=305; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport01001; t=1255616795; x=1256826395; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20|Reply-To:=20Ole =20Jacobsen=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[76attende es]=20transport=20from=20Hiroshima=20airport=20to=20hotel |Date:=20Thu,=2015=20Oct=202009=2007:26:04=20-0700=20(PDT )|Message-ID:=20|To:=20"Lu,=20Guang"=20|cc:=2076attendees@ietf.org|MIME-Version:=201.0 |In-Reply-To:=20|References:=20<4ACF6DC8.3070108@ie ca.com><20091013.000836.122204317.kato@wide.ad. jp><4AD34990.5010304@digium.com>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20; bh=CzZ7YrVYkcoeRsO97sQk3t+IMWrZBoy+IS6Z+TN7uPo=; b=H4xmTc53nFKbH11Xs/0x4dInCWvR+scR/i0MNgz7hrtofNH/Kx4ptvC9 AxK4QfSo3Vf1+5XZ51yDO58cs/nqxAWeq113nWbp9A3NR+PXu9gmEY6Vd jqeGMR0EufPa56DOHnGyvmm23Uf7A74cEao4VsQAlG25HbNQXjOV2DJ11 E=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAF/N1kqrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbACkBZ17gRkIAYd2CY8ygk6BYgQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,566,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="256480926" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 15 Oct 2009 14:26:35 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9FEQZe7004024; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:26:35 GMT Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:26:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Lu, Guang" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com><20091013.000836.122204317.kato@wide.ad.jp><4AD34990.5010304@digium.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:26:33 -0000 Sorry, I have you the wrong URL, try this instead: http://www.hij.airport.jp/english/access/now/bus/b01b.php Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From kato@wide.ad.jp Thu Oct 15 07:37:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7FC63A69AD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:37:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QUv2UZxGk9Eh for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B2D3A699D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (EM114-51-177-180.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp [114.51.177.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 89C527FBD1; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:37:01 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432D3E7D1D; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:36:55 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:36:55 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091015.233655.258133661.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: Guang.Lu@InterDigital.com From: Akira Kato In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:37:02 -0000 Dear Guang, see the following URLs: http://www.ietf76.jp/access/#HIJ http://www.hij.airport.jp/english/access/now/bus/b01b.php If you will be arriving at Hiroshima Airport via a domestic flight from Haneda Airport, the bus will depart in connecting with it. So the last bus will wait for passengers unless the delay is significant. If you will be arriving via an International fligt, the bus may not change the schedule. When you miss the last bus departure, there is no nice way to get your hotel. The possible way except taking a taxi to your hotel is - take a taxi to "Shiraichi" JR station; 3,000 -- 3,800 JPY and 20-25min - Take JR local train to Hiroshima, 740 JPY The last train departs from Shiraichi station at 23:12, and arrival at Hiroshima is 23:56. - Take a taxi again. Probably it costs around 1,000 JPY and 10min. This is *not* a recommended way especially for foreigners but it is the last resort except for direct taxi ride. -- Akira Kato From: "Lu, Guang" Subject: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:10:55 -0400 > Hello, > > Thank you for sharing the travel information. I found it very helpful. > > I will arrive at the Hiroshima airport and booked the Rihga Royal Hotel > Hiroshima hotel. From the hotel website it says > > "From Hiroshima Airport > Board the airport limousine bus to the Hiroshima Bus Center. The ride is > about 1 hour and costs 1,300 yen each way. The buses run from 8:30 to > 21:20 from the airport, and 5:55 to 19:15 returning to the airport. > Alternatively, take the taxi, also approximately 1 hour. The taxi costs > about 15,000 yen including road tolls." > > It is not clear how frequent the limousine bus is, and I'm afraid that I > may miss it since my flight arrives late. > > Does anyone know if there is any other way to get to the hotel (or the > area) besides taking a taxi? > > Thanks and best regards, > Guang > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Ole Jacobsen > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:07 PM > To: Kevin P. Fleming > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [76attendees] More About the Train Fares > > > Kato san has posted a detailed explanation of the JR ticket rules > here: http://www.ietf76.jp/general/ > > Summary: There IS a discount for round-trip fares provided that you > travel more than 600km in each direction. So, if you are able to > plan exactly when to return, write down the info you get from the > hyperdia link and present your entire journey to the JR agent at > Narita (Kansai is too close to Hiroshima for the discount). > > General rule: If I say something, it's based on my experience from > many visits to Japan, but Kato san lives in Japan and speak Japanese > a lot better than I do. So you should trust his word, not mine, when > in doubt. > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From ali_tufail@hotmail.com Thu Oct 15 09:23:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D2928C10C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:23:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.651 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.651 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.349, BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MxI+j2OHCz2F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from col0-omc2-s3.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc2-s3.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.77]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030C73A672F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from COL121-W16 ([65.55.34.72]) by col0-omc2-s3.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:23:11 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ba9a9813-0ec3-49ad-bd39-4046b154fb6a_" X-Originating-IP: [114.108.86.213] From: Ali Tufail To: <76attendees@ietf.org> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:23:11 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2009 16:23:11.0574 (UTC) FILETIME=[C9ED5760:01CA4DB3] Subject: [76attendees] =?windows-1256?q?Places_to_eat_food_other_than_japa?= =?windows-1256?q?nese_food_in_Hiroshima=3F=FE?= X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:23:08 -0000 --_ba9a9813-0ec3-49ad-bd39-4046b154fb6a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi There! I am wondering if there are places where we can get food other than japanese food in the area around the meeting venue? How easy would it be to find places like Macdonald's, Pizza Hut, Burger King, or other italian/indian cuisines around that area? Any help would be highly appreciated. Thanking you in anticipation Best Wishes, Ali Tufail P.S. Sorry for any duplicate emails _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with your friends through Messenger on your mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/ --_ba9a9813-0ec3-49ad-bd39-4046b154fb6a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi There!
 
I am wondering if there are places where we can get food other than japanese food in the area around the meeting venue? How easy would it be to find places like Macdonald's, Pizza Hut, Burger King, or other italian/indian cuisines around that area?
 
Any help would be highly appreciated.
Thanking you in anticipation

 
Best Wishes, 
Ali Tufail
 
P.S. Sorry for any duplicate emails



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Learn more. --_ba9a9813-0ec3-49ad-bd39-4046b154fb6a_-- From ole@cisco.com Thu Oct 15 09:30:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FA23A672F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:30:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.433 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.433 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.134, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gl6txMBYb4iY for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99A93A68A6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:30:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=1577; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport06001; t=1255624253; x=1256833853; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20|Reply-To:=20Ole =20Jacobsen=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[76attende es]=20=3D?windows-1256?q?Places_to_eat_food_other_than_ja pa?=3D=0D=0A=20=3D?windows-1256?q?nese_food_in_Hiroshima =3D3F=3DFE?=3D|Date:=20Thu,=2015=20Oct=202009=2009:30:22 =20-0700=20(PDT)|Message-ID:=20|To:=20Ali=20Tufail=20|cc:=2076attendees@ietf.org|MIME-Version:=201 .0|In-Reply-To:=20|References:=20; bh=yDar4wsAfTLuHBow6xVI49dO4ZsLWqmh9E4uSeqbUR4=; b=fHnpXknyOyfBBHYO8Rrr5wHl9ICVcIf6dbTq0NuiDaI2+ToFduAtkiv2 5MVuRWQMftZ7A0SK/Tr4keRq1yhrk3aJvTGnY2IaM/xaqB1ChpII981Mm S7Q1TKlOeQEnAXrvudvdPpTGGr3pCx7G4KU073KZ+5Mb4ESA/8yq9mc7b s=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAF7r1kqrR7H+/2dsb2JhbADCLIEZCAGHdgmPLIJOgWIE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,566,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="410095488" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 15 Oct 2009 16:30:53 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9FGUrtN007505; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:30:53 GMT Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:30:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Ali Tufail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] =?windows-1256?q?Places_to_eat_food_other_than_japa?= =?windows-1256?q?nese_food_in_Hiroshima=3F=FE?= X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:30:50 -0000 There are plenty of places like the ones you list. I will confess here that during my last visit to Hiroshima I actually had a "meal" at MacDonalds at the JR train station. My only excuse is that I was in a hurry ;-) The local host will be preparing maps and lists of restaurants of all kinds, online and I think also as a handout. Perhaps the most popular Western food in Japan is Italian, you'll find plenty of Italian-style places all over Japan and certainly in Hiroshima. Indian is also quite popular. Most hotels that have restaurants feature a menu which includes western-style dishes. I don't think you'll starve :-) Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Ali Tufail wrote: > > > > Hi There! > > > > I am wondering if there are places where we can get food other than > japanese food in the area around the meeting venue? How easy would > it be to find places like Macdonald's, Pizza Hut, Burger King, or > other italian/indian cuisines around that area? > > > > Any help would be highly appreciated. > > Thanking you in anticipation > > > Best Wishes, > Ali Tufail > > P.S. Sorry for any duplicate emails > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay in touch with your friends through Messenger on your mobile > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/ From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Thu Oct 15 09:45:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E0D28C12F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:45:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.959 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.959 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.513, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hbAwQl+zZBOI for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60F13A69B2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.30.158] (75-101-30-90.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [75.101.30.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n9FGjxqd077343 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:46:00 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:45:58 -0700 To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [76attendees] Places for carry-out in the evening? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:45:58 -0000 Greetings again. We have already started seeing planning for largish Bar BoFs that will be held in meeting rooms in the hotel after the plenaries. For thos of us who prefer not to starve, are there places within a block or two that have to-go bento boxes or other non-messy to-go food that we can dash out for? --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium From randy@psg.com Thu Oct 15 21:00:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C0C28C1E5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:00:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.373 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.373 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.226, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8=0.152] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id acrCyR9TKW9I for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D603128C1DF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rmac.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MydzJ-000LXZ-I6; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:00:21 +0000 Received: from rmac.local.psg.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rmac.psg.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2987A2B73082; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:00:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:00:21 -0400 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Ali Tufail In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] =?utf-8?q?Places_to_eat_food_other_than_japanese_fo?= =?utf-8?q?od_in_Hiroshima=3F=E2=80=8F?= X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:00:21 -0000 > I am wondering if there are places where we can get food other than > japanese food in the area around the meeting venue? How easy would it > be to find places like Macdonald's, Pizza Hut, Burger King, or other > italian/indian cuisines around that area? firebombing fast food restaurants, while noble, is generally discouraged randy From ali_tufail@hotmail.com Thu Oct 15 21:06:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADA43A68F6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:06:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.257 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.257 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.395, BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MIME_HEADER_CTYPE_ONLY=0.56] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G-eDF7BocwOL for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from col0-omc2-s15.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc2-s15.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.89]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173F828C1CA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from COL121-W32 ([65.55.34.72]) by col0-omc2-s15.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:06:39 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_70f2b12a-336f-4dab-b72e-b3f3b7af824e_" X-Originating-IP: [210.107.192.144] From: Ali Tufail To: Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:06:39 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2009 04:06:39.0721 (UTC) FILETIME=[0FF17590:01CA4E16] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] =?windows-1256?q?Places_to_eat_food_other_than_japa?= =?windows-1256?q?nese_food_in_Hiroshima=3F=FE?= X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:06:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 --_70f2b12a-336f-4dab-b72e-b3f3b7af824e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks. That was helpful :) Now I am sure I wont starve ;) Best Wishes, Ali Tufail > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:30:22 -0700 > From: ole@cisco.com > To: ali_tufail@hotmail.com > CC: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] Places to eat food other than japanese food in Hiroshima? > > > There are plenty of places like the ones you list. I will confess here > that during my last visit to Hiroshima I actually had a "meal" at > MacDonalds at the JR train station. My only excuse is that I was in > a hurry ;-) > > The local host will be preparing maps and lists of restaurants of all > kinds, online and I think also as a handout. Perhaps the most popular > Western food in Japan is Italian, you'll find plenty of Italian-style > places all over Japan and certainly in Hiroshima. Indian is also quite > popular. Most hotels that have restaurants feature a menu which > includes western-style dishes. > > I don't think you'll starve :-) > > Ole > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Ali Tufail wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi There! > > > > > > > > I am wondering if there are places where we can get food other than > > japanese food in the area around the meeting venue? How easy would > > it be to find places like Macdonald's, Pizza Hut, Burger King, or > > other italian/indian cuisines around that area? > > > > > > > > Any help would be highly appreciated. > > > > Thanking you in anticipation > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > Ali Tufail > > > > P.S. Sorry for any duplicate emails > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Stay in touch with your friends through Messenger on your mobile > > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/ _________________________________________________________________ Use Windows Live Messenger for free on selected mobiles http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/ --_70f2b12a-336f-4dab-b72e-b3f3b7af824e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks. That was helpful :)
 
Now I am sure I wont starve ;)  

 
Best Wishes, 
Ali Tufail
 



 
> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:30:22 -0700
> From: ole@cisco.com
> To: ali_tufail@hotmail.com
> CC: 76attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Places to eat food other than japanese food in Hiroshima?
>
>
> There are plenty of places like the ones you list. I will confess here
> that during my last visit to Hiroshima I actually had a "meal" at
> MacDonalds at the JR train station. My only excuse is that I was in
> a hurry ;-)
>
> The local host will be preparing maps and lists of restaurants of all
> kinds, online and I think also as a handout. Perhaps the most popular
> Western food in Japan is Italian, you'll find plenty of Italian-style
> places all over Japan and certainly in Hiroshima. Indian is also quite
> popular. Most hotels that have rest aurants feature a menu which
> includes western-style dishes.
>
> I don't think you'll starve :-)
>
> Ole
>
> Ole J. Jacobsen
> Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal
> Cisco Systems
> Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
> E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj
>
>
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Ali Tufail wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi There!
> >
> >
> >
> > I am wondering if there are places where we can get food other than
> > japanese food in the area around the meeting venue? How easy would
> > it be to find places like Macdonald's, Pizza Hut, Burger King, or
> > other italian/indian cuisines around that area?
> >
> >
> >
> > Any help would be highly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanking you in a nticipation
> >
> >
> > Best Wishes,
> > Ali Tufail
> >
> > P.S. Sorry for any duplicate emails
> >
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Stay in touch with your friends through Messenger on your mobile
> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/

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Learn more. --_70f2b12a-336f-4dab-b72e-b3f3b7af824e_-- From bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr Sat Oct 17 09:33:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684EB3A6855 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:33:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AOUM8pXC6Iu8 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.bortzmeyer.org (bortzmeyer-1-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f12:420::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF043A67F5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.bortzmeyer.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 5671994D70; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:33:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.sources.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C5024190667; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:28:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:28:25 +0200 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <20091017162825.GB27791@sources.org> References: <0C4EA7FB1CF61A48AC1BEC0976D16C142758BA79@VMLEX02.JTB.LOCAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0C4EA7FB1CF61A48AC1BEC0976D16C142758BA79@VMLEX02.JTB.LOCAL> X-Transport: UUCP rules X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.3 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: [76attendees] 76th IETF / credit card payment X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:33:15 -0000 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:57:01PM +0900, m_sakimoto480@jtb.jp wrote a message of 28 lines which said: > It is our great honor that we have been appointed as the travel > agent for the arrangement of the hotel accommodations for IETF 2009 > on behalf of Ms. Alexa Morris, secretariat of IETF. > > The system is available now for the payment. > Please complete payment in full by credit card following the steps by 30 Oct. Is it confirmed or is it an elaborate phishing attempt? From ole@cisco.com Sat Oct 17 10:23:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB673A6903 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:23:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.579 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.579 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.020, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NISzKOh5Sq0p for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564133A6855 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:23:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=1097; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport06001; t=1255800233; x=1257009833; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20|Reply-To:=20Ole =20Jacobsen=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[76attende es]=2076th=20IETF=20/=20credit=20card=20payment|Date:=20S at,=2017=20Oct=202009=2010:23:22=20-0700=20(PDT) |Message-ID:=20|To:=20Stephane=20Bortzmeyer=20|cc:=2076attendees@ietf.org|MIME-Version:=201.0 |In-Reply-To:=20<20091017162825.GB27791@sources.org> |References:=20<0C4EA7FB1CF61A48AC1BEC0976D16C142758BA79@ VMLEX02.JTB.LOCAL>=0D=0A=20<20091017162825.GB27791@source s.org>; bh=qCeLVenJ4DHdLC028Ojvh4NFFtpzEtAlL7Z14GTkFzI=; b=eP28JrzUTD6B6nnjRdUMBJtyM/03acnXl8TINXHD9DMbskoldcEh3OkH Qmq+FD+jUJnnBTFEpW4jZ8XT0WsTiQTgmh4xsjBhdAAOqxfMfHmPszc/d v35WWRdsvurS4Tkzz/f8Q9GyqT2sroZeZbRChiZRdt8N02/xyF6O0da5g o=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEABea2UqrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbAC/FoEZCAGGZ4EQCY4egk6BYwQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,578,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="411608749" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 Oct 2009 17:23:53 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9HHNrMS001948; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:23:53 GMT Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:23:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Stephane Bortzmeyer In-Reply-To: <20091017162825.GB27791@sources.org> Message-ID: References: <0C4EA7FB1CF61A48AC1BEC0976D16C142758BA79@VMLEX02.JTB.LOCAL> <20091017162825.GB27791@sources.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] 76th IETF / credit card payment X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:23:49 -0000 It's not a phishing attempt. The Japan Travel Bureau (JTB) is indeed the organization dealing with reservations for the overflow hotels. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:57:01PM +0900, > m_sakimoto480@jtb.jp wrote > a message of 28 lines which said: > > > It is our great honor that we have been appointed as the travel > > agent for the arrangement of the hotel accommodations for IETF 2009 > > on behalf of Ms. Alexa Morris, secretariat of IETF. > > > > The system is available now for the payment. > > Please complete payment in full by credit card following the steps by 30 Oct. > > Is it confirmed or is it an elaborate phishing attempt? > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From plovell@mac.com Tue Oct 20 09:33:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF73E3A6A1F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:33:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6h9x5s+74VIW for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtpout015.mac.com (asmtpout015.mac.com [17.148.16.90]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FA73A69A5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:33:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.4.98] (dsl092-149-198.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.149.198]) by asmtp015.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KRT006VONBJ9F00@asmtp015.mac.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:33:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Lovell To: 76attendees@ietf.org Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:33:18 -0400 Message-id: <20091020163318.1320173281@smtp.mac.com> X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 6.0.3 build 4609 English (intel) Subject: [76attendees] H1N1 issues? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:33:19 -0000 Hi all, What is the situation in Japan with regard to H1N1 influenza virus (a.k.a. "swine flu")? Is it about the same as in the United States, or more, or less ? Is it specifically recommended to try to get a vaccination (which is difficult as the vaccine is presently in short supply) ?? Thanks.....Peter From osamu.kawakita@unisys.co.jp Tue Oct 20 17:24:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C473A694F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:24:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.51 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id puGwWf5vCGqO for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from igw04.unisys.co.jp (igw04.unisys.co.jp [202.233.47.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8483A6937 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:24:01 -0700 (PDT) From: To: <76attendees@ietf.org> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:24:06 +0900 Thread-Topic: [76attendees] H1N1 issues? Thread-Index: AcpRoxFEf3Q2id2VScGW5Kc+CiykygAQE1UQ Message-ID: References: <20091020163318.1320173281@smtp.mac.com> In-Reply-To: <20091020163318.1320173281@smtp.mac.com> Accept-Language: ja-JP Content-Language: ja-JP X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: ja-JP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [76attendees] H1N1 issues? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:24:06 -0000 See MHLW (Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare) web page: http://www.mhlw.go.jp/english/topics/influenza_a/index.html The vaccine is still in short here. Osamu > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter Lovell > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:33 AM > To: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [76attendees] H1N1 issues? > > Hi all, > > What is the situation in Japan with regard to H1N1 influenza virus > (a.k.a. "swine flu")? Is it about the same as in the United States, or > more, or less ? > > Is it specifically recommended to try to get a vaccination (which is > difficult as the vaccine is presently in short supply) ?? > > Thanks.....Peter > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From kpfleming@digium.com Wed Oct 21 13:14:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACAB28C101 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:14:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.353 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.353 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.646, BAYES_50=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QAUtnxrnIy0N for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.digium.com (mail.digium.com [216.207.245.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F1328C0E8 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiler.digium.internal ([10.19.29.150] helo=jupiler.digium.com) by mail.digium.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N0ha6-00013G-8q for 76attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:14:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D9E29E0002 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:14:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from jupiler.digium.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jupiler.digium.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pT1fTeEXXpdN for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:14:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [10.24.20.235] (kildare.digium.internal [10.24.20.235]) (Authenticated sender: kpfleming) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D667929E0001 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:14:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4ADF6BB9.7070707@digium.com> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:14:49 -0500 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" Organization: Digium, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=05FB8DB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Obtaining laptop power cords in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:14:45 -0000 I'm traveling with a laptop with a power supply that uses an IEC C5 (Mickey Mouse) connector on the supply end; I've looked for a C5-to-Japanese cord here in the USA, but all I can find have a 3-prong plug on the receptacle end. Based on Ole's website (and others), it seems like I'll need a 2-prong plug to have any chance to be able to plug in at the hotel and other places. I've got a plug adapter already, but I'd prefer to not have to use it. Will it be fairly easy to find such a power cord in Hiroshima, or should I try harder to find one before leaving the USA? -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org From ole@cisco.com Wed Oct 21 13:19:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6AC228C143 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:19:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.583 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.583 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.016, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WZlbW9VzxuC9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12B628C13A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:19:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=1604; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport01001; t=1256156354; x=1257365954; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20|Reply-To:=20Ole =20Jacobsen=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[76attende es]=20Obtaining=20laptop=20power=20cords=20in=20Hiroshima |Date:=20Wed,=2021=20Oct=202009=2013:18:34=20-0700=20(PDT )|Message-ID:=20|To:=20"Kevin=20P.=20Fleming"=20|cc:=2076attendees@ietf.org|MIME-Version:=201.0 |In-Reply-To:=20<4ADF6BB9.7070707@digium.com>|References: =20<4ADF6BB9.7070707@digium.com>; bh=eq+iGbywIOY0mwNCOeRiask4mjDyrkVqoGTjuN1OInw=; b=mgeKNg4DIaj1Tev8y27nLrGsvkChpb1yZrCRNEu9SiOIV7vGIiNP+fQH TpuOZRHWj2C42S6lceANznoXgV7yIiL/28ilIQ/gMeebWdX3W1CqB9exW jHIcmPuEsmhKXPaE0FQhzDNVb7fbcEdsgT+U/1nnHAHy/9pErGXDs1hW6 A=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAAsK30qrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbADDWYEZCAGHfQmPPIJPgWQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,599,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="259452824" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 Oct 2009 20:19:07 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9LKJ7XV011952; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:19:07 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:18:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Kevin P. Fleming" In-Reply-To: <4ADF6BB9.7070707@digium.com> Message-ID: References: <4ADF6BB9.7070707@digium.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Obtaining laptop power cords in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:19:05 -0000 Kevin, I would say that it's fairly easy to find such a cord in Hiroshima at any of the sites listed. If you want, I'd be happy to find one for you in Tokyo the week prior to Hiroshima. The number of stores is of course much larger there. In the meantime, the 3-prong to 2-prong adapters work quite well, so I'd bring it just in case. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > I'm traveling with a laptop with a power supply that uses an IEC C5 > (Mickey Mouse) connector on the supply end; I've looked for a > C5-to-Japanese cord here in the USA, but all I can find have a 3-prong > plug on the receptacle end. Based on Ole's website (and others), it > seems like I'll need a 2-prong plug to have any chance to be able to > plug in at the hotel and other places. I've got a plug adapter already, > but I'd prefer to not have to use it. > > Will it be fairly easy to find such a power cord in Hiroshima, or should > I try harder to find one before leaving the USA? > > -- > Kevin P. Fleming > Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies > 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA > skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com > Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com Wed Oct 21 14:57:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FAB3A6951 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:57:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LNyOvVMHNdnA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C103A693E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusrcmw751.eamcs.ericsson.se (eusrcmw751.exu.ericsson.se [138.85.77.51]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n9LLw0d6018899 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:58:01 -0500 Received: from eusrcmw750.eamcs.ericsson.se ([138.85.77.50]) by eusrcmw751.eamcs.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:57:06 -0500 Received: from eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.31]) by eusrcmw750.eamcs.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:57:06 -0500 Received: from [142.133.10.113] (147.117.20.213) by eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se (147.117.20.91) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.375.2; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:57:05 -0400 Message-ID: <4ADF839D.5000308@ericsson.com> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:56:45 -0400 From: Suresh Krishnan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2009 21:57:06.0380 (UTC) FILETIME=[6E14A0C0:01CA5299] Subject: [76attendees] To JRPass or not X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:57:53 -0000 Hi Folks, I will be flying in and out of Tokyo and take a train to Hiroshima. I do not intend to do any other rail travel. The two way Nozomi fare is approx 37000 yen and the JR pass is approx 28000 yen. The JR pass is not valid on the Nozomi and the fastest Hikari trains take 1 hour more (40 mins slower + 20 mins change time) each way than the Nozomi. Other than this time difference and a train change at Shin Osaka is there anything else I need to think about? Cheers Suresh From kato@wide.ad.jp Wed Oct 21 15:32:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F293A698D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:32:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dq1ogcqLWGqJ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA3C3A6975 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (EM114-51-151-49.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp [114.51.151.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46FDD7FC98; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:32:22 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B13E7D1D; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:32:18 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:32:18 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091022.073218.111550193.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com From: Akira Kato In-Reply-To: <4ADF839D.5000308@ericsson.com> References: <4ADF839D.5000308@ericsson.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:32:16 -0000 Suresh, I believe your comparison is quite fair. Cabin accomodation is essentially the same (same car serve as Nozomi and as Hikari). The only minor difference is that N-700 series cars don't serve as Hikari except early morning and late evening; In N-700, you have 100V AC power access in all window seats for your laptop. Please enjoy the travel to Hiroshima. -- Akira Kato From: Suresh Krishnan Subject: [76attendees] To JRPass or not Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:56:45 -0400 > Hi Folks, > I will be flying in and out of Tokyo and take a train to Hiroshima. I > do not intend to do any other rail travel. The two way Nozomi fare is > approx 37000 yen and the JR pass is approx 28000 yen. The JR pass is > not valid on the Nozomi and the fastest Hikari trains take 1 hour more > (40 mins slower + 20 mins change time) each way than the Nozomi. Other > than this time difference and a train change at Shin Osaka is there > anything else I need to think about? > > Cheers > Suresh > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From Martin.Thomson@andrew.com Wed Oct 21 15:32:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A130B3A6926 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:32:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.538 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.538 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.061, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xPQ0Vz1d83H7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csmailgw2.commscope.com (csmailgw2.commscope.com [198.135.207.244]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F263A6911 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.86.20.102] ([10.86.20.102]:46404 "EHLO ACDCE7HC1.commscope.com") by csmailgw2.commscope.com with ESMTP id S60895AbZJUWcy (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:32:54 -0500 Received: from SISPE7HC1.commscope.com (10.97.4.12) by ACDCE7HC1.commscope.com (10.86.20.102) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.393.1; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:32:54 -0500 Received: from SISPE7MB1.commscope.com ([fe80::9d82:a492:85e3:a293]) by SISPE7HC1.commscope.com ([fe80::8a9:4724:f6bb:3cdf%10]) with mapi; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:32:51 +0800 From: "Thomson, Martin" To: Ole Jacobsen , "Kevin P. Fleming" Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:33:15 +0800 Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Obtaining laptop power cords in Hiroshima Thread-Index: AcpSi8ZiRKzncQlvTGCOZrt9Yg0vfQAEnL+w Message-ID: <8B0A9FCBB9832F43971E38010638454F0F1EA287@SISPE7MB1.commscope.com> References: <4ADF6BB9.7070707@digium.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BCN: Meridius 1000 Version 3.4 on csmailgw2.commscope.com X-BCN-Sender: Martin.Thomson@andrew.com Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Obtaining laptop power cords in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:32:47 -0000 SSBmb3VuZCB0aGF0IGEgcGFpciBvZiBwbGllcnMgY2FuIGFsc28gYmUgcXVpdGUgZWZmZWN0aXZl LCBidXQgdGhhdCB3YXMgb24gYSBwb3dlciBhZGFwdGVyLCBub3QgdGhlIG9yaWdpbmFsIGVxdWlw bWVudC4NCg0KPiAtLS0tLU9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UtLS0tLQ0KPiBGcm9tOiA3NmF0dGVuZGVl cy1ib3VuY2VzQGlldGYub3JnIFttYWlsdG86NzZhdHRlbmRlZXMtDQo+IGJvdW5jZXNAaWV0Zi5v cmddIE9uIEJlaGFsZiBPZiBPbGUgSmFjb2JzZW4NCj4gU2VudDogVGh1cnNkYXksIDIyIE9jdG9i ZXIgMjAwOSA3OjE5IEFNDQo+IFRvOiBLZXZpbiBQLiBGbGVtaW5nDQo+IENjOiA3NmF0dGVuZGVl c0BpZXRmLm9yZw0KPiBTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogWzc2YXR0ZW5kZWVzXSBPYnRhaW5pbmcgbGFwdG9w IHBvd2VyIGNvcmRzIGluIEhpcm9zaGltYQ0KPiANCj4gS2V2aW4sDQo+IA0KPiBJIHdvdWxkIHNh eSB0aGF0IGl0J3MgZmFpcmx5IGVhc3kgdG8gZmluZCBzdWNoIGEgY29yZCBpbiBIaXJvc2hpbWEg YXQNCj4gYW55IG9mIHRoZSBzaXRlcyBsaXN0ZWQuIElmIHlvdSB3YW50LCBJJ2QgYmUgaGFwcHkg dG8gZmluZCBvbmUgZm9yIHlvdQ0KPiBpbiBUb2t5byB0aGUgd2VlayBwcmlvciB0byBIaXJvc2hp bWEuIFRoZSBudW1iZXIgb2Ygc3RvcmVzIGlzIG9mDQo+IGNvdXJzZSBtdWNoIGxhcmdlciB0aGVy ZS4NCj4gDQo+IEluIHRoZSBtZWFudGltZSwgdGhlIDMtcHJvbmcgdG8gMi1wcm9uZyBhZGFwdGVy cyB3b3JrIHF1aXRlIHdlbGwsIHNvDQo+IEknZCBicmluZyBpdCBqdXN0IGluIGNhc2UuDQo+IA0K PiBPbGUNCj4gDQo+IA0KPiBPbGUgSi4gSmFjb2JzZW4NCj4gRWRpdG9yIGFuZCBQdWJsaXNoZXIs ICBUaGUgSW50ZXJuZXQgUHJvdG9jb2wgSm91cm5hbA0KPiBDaXNjbyBTeXN0ZW1zDQo+IFRlbDog KzEgNDA4LTUyNy04OTcyICAgTW9iaWxlOiArMSA0MTUtMzcwLTQ2MjgNCj4gRS1tYWlsOiBvbGVA Y2lzY28uY29tICBVUkw6IGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuY2lzY28uY29tL2lwag0KPiANCj4gDQo+IA0KPiBP biBXZWQsIDIxIE9jdCAyMDA5LCBLZXZpbiBQLiBGbGVtaW5nIHdyb3RlOg0KPiANCj4gPiBJJ20g dHJhdmVsaW5nIHdpdGggYSBsYXB0b3Agd2l0aCBhIHBvd2VyIHN1cHBseSB0aGF0IHVzZXMgYW4g SUVDIEM1DQo+ID4gKE1pY2tleSBNb3VzZSkgY29ubmVjdG9yIG9uIHRoZSBzdXBwbHkgZW5kOyBJ J3ZlIGxvb2tlZCBmb3IgYQ0KPiA+IEM1LXRvLUphcGFuZXNlIGNvcmQgaGVyZSBpbiB0aGUgVVNB LCBidXQgYWxsIEkgY2FuIGZpbmQgaGF2ZSBhIDMtDQo+IHByb25nDQo+ID4gcGx1ZyBvbiB0aGUg cmVjZXB0YWNsZSBlbmQuIEJhc2VkIG9uIE9sZSdzIHdlYnNpdGUgKGFuZCBvdGhlcnMpLCBpdA0K PiA+IHNlZW1zIGxpa2UgSSdsbCBuZWVkIGEgMi1wcm9uZyBwbHVnIHRvIGhhdmUgYW55IGNoYW5j ZSB0byBiZSBhYmxlIHRvDQo+ID4gcGx1ZyBpbiBhdCB0aGUgaG90ZWwgYW5kIG90aGVyIHBsYWNl cy4gSSd2ZSBnb3QgYSBwbHVnIGFkYXB0ZXINCj4gYWxyZWFkeSwNCj4gPiBidXQgSSdkIHByZWZl ciB0byBub3QgaGF2ZSB0byB1c2UgaXQuDQo+ID4NCj4gPiBXaWxsIGl0IGJlIGZhaXJseSBlYXN5 IHRvIGZpbmQgc3VjaCBhIHBvd2VyIGNvcmQgaW4gSGlyb3NoaW1hLCBvcg0KPiBzaG91bGQNCj4g PiBJIHRyeSBoYXJkZXIgdG8gZmluZCBvbmUgYmVmb3JlIGxlYXZpbmcgdGhlIFVTQT8NCj4gPg0K PiA+IC0tDQo+ID4gS2V2aW4gUC4gRmxlbWluZw0KPiA+IERpZ2l1bSwgSW5jLiB8IERpcmVjdG9y IG9mIFNvZnR3YXJlIFRlY2hub2xvZ2llcw0KPiA+IDQ0NSBKYW4gRGF2aXMgRHJpdmUgTlcgLSBI dW50c3ZpbGxlLCBBTCAzNTgwNiAtIFVTQQ0KPiA+IHNreXBlOiBrcGZsZW1pbmcgfCBqYWJiZXI6 IGtwZmxlbWluZ0BkaWdpdW0uY29tDQo+ID4gQ2hlY2sgdXMgb3V0IGF0IHd3dy5kaWdpdW0uY29t ICYgd3d3LmFzdGVyaXNrLm9yZw0KPiA+IF9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fDQo+ID4gNzZhdHRlbmRlZXMgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0DQo+ID4gNzZhdHRl bmRlZXNAaWV0Zi5vcmcNCj4gPiBodHRwczovL3d3dy5pZXRmLm9yZy9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZv Lzc2YXR0ZW5kZWVzDQo+ID4NCj4gX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX18NCj4gNzZhdHRlbmRlZXMgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0DQo+IDc2YXR0ZW5kZWVzQGll dGYub3JnDQo+IGh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmlldGYub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vNzZhdHRlbmRl ZXMNCg0K From ole@cisco.com Wed Oct 21 16:00:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061673A67EF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; 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Snapping off the third prong (ground) would work just find on most US-originated power cords. The thing you have to "worry" about is the width of the remaining two blades: they should be the SAME size, see: http://www.yikes.com/~ole/store/plug-socket.jpg Most Japanese outlets look similar to the one you see in that picture, that is, the plug is not keyed by having one wider blade. I just checked my Apple MacBook power cord, and the blades are the same size so chances are your adapter uses a similar arrangement. Bring the Dremel tool to file down one blade just in case. OK, I am kidding on that last point ;-) Ole From ole@cisco.com Thu Oct 22 00:20:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2BE3A68A2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:20:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.584 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.584 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A9Vn1ZKe33SD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com (sj-iport-4.cisco.com [171.68.10.86]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8C028C0F8 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:20:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=1629; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport04001; t=1256196024; x=1257405624; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20|Reply-To:=20Ole =20Jacobsen=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[76attende es]=20Places=20for=20carry-out=20in=20the=20evening? |Date:=20Thu,=2022=20Oct=202009=2000:19:51=20-0700=20(PDT )|Message-ID:=20|To:=20Paul=20Hoffman=20 |cc:=2076attendees@ietf.org|MIME-Version:=201.0 |In-Reply-To:=20 |References:=20; bh=dxryA1UMX5GsWkkkxb+vHVbLFzDKqWjrgecT3HDOGT4=; b=e9wF21JVycOQnsXrU1KhYdmCU34aWOp8pP71gCShodbW2yC+RWtzUbyC PUAe4R6qLYFcKlhELsrJ6jxtrUA9qr3WYjmTXpfmhZS1WnOuXjaUjjY1J 4phYFDLu71eTLXpn94RG1cj6Ol3LaOtbQ0fDBjHuqZnaZppoKR3Tj7T4G w=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-4.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAH+k30qrR7H+/2dsb2JhbADCJoEZCAGIBAmPHIIzIYFpBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,603,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="46335864" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 22 Oct 2009 07:20:24 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9M7KOaL004677; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:20:24 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:19:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Places for carry-out in the evening? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:20:16 -0000 This is from Yoko Itami with the Hiroshima Convention & Visitors Bureau: "There are a couple of convenience stores near the ANA Crowne Plaza Hiroshima, where various to-go food options including obento boxes are available. They are open 24/7. The followings are the convenience stores in the neighboring block. 1. Lawson 5-7, Fukuromachi, Naka-ward, Hiroshima 2. Family Mart 5-28 Fukuromachi, Naka-ward, Hiroshima 3. Seven-Eleven 6-41, Fukuromachi, Naka-ward, Hiroshima There are bento box shops, too: Kamadoya 5-15 Nakamachi, Naka-ward, Hiroshima (in front of Hiroshima Telecasting Co. Ltd.) (open 10:30-21:00, closed Sundays) Delica-Celery 4-14 Nakamachi, Naka-ward, Hiroshima (I'm afraid it's closed in the evening.)" Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Paul Hoffman wrote: > Greetings again. We have already started seeing planning for largish > Bar BoFs that will be held in meeting rooms in the hotel after the > plenaries. For thos of us who prefer not to starve, are there places > within a block or two that have to-go bento boxes or other non-messy > to-go food that we can dash out for? > > --Paul Hoffman, Director > --VPN Consortium > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From kpfleming@digium.com Thu Oct 22 05:12:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EC43A68F4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:12:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.307 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.307 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IrLBJJx1kv5l for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.digium.com (mail.digium.com [216.207.245.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447163A6875 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiler.digium.internal ([10.19.29.150] helo=jupiler.digium.com) by mail.digium.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N0wWn-0001Ew-Db for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:12:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EAC829E0002 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:12:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from jupiler.digium.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jupiler.digium.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VkDaogg2q-d5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:12:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [172.19.1.104] (173-23-84-177.client.mchsi.com [173.23.84.177]) (Authenticated sender: kpfleming) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64B029E0001 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:12:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4AE04C26.3090904@digium.com> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:12:22 -0500 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" Organization: Digium, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> References: <4ADF6BB9.7070707@digium.com> <8B0A9FCBB9832F43971E38010638454F0F1EA287@SISPE7MB1.commscope.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=05FB8DB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Obtaining laptop power cords in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:12:17 -0000 Ole Jacobsen wrote: > On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Thomson, Martin wrote: > >> I found that a pair of pliers can also be quite effective, but that >> was on a power adapter, not the original equipment. > > Snapping off the third prong (ground) would work just find on most > US-originated power cords. The thing you have to "worry" about is > the width of the remaining two blades: they should be the SAME size, > see: http://www.yikes.com/~ole/store/plug-socket.jpg > > Most Japanese outlets look similar to the one you see in that picture, > that is, the plug is not keyed by having one wider blade. > > I just checked my Apple MacBook power cord, and the blades are the > same size so chances are your adapter uses a similar arrangement. It does indeed, I just checked that this morning, and I also remembered that I had snapped off the grounding prong on my wife's laptop power adapter cord so it would fit into a European adapter on our last trip... since the laptop power supply has no external metal components, I fail to understand why they even used a three-prong plug in the first place (there is nothing to connect the earth ground to). -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org From ldunbar@huawei.com Thu Oct 22 08:01:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110D93A6A6C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:01:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m2idSgfup9cd for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usaga04-in.huawei.com (usaga04-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.180]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380693A6A70 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (usaga04-in [172.18.4.101]) by usaga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KRX008YH8FGXS@usaga04-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:02:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from L735042 ([10.124.12.51]) by usaga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KRX00B258FE5H@usaga04-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:02:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:02:01 -0500 From: Linda Dunbar In-reply-to: <20091022.073218.111550193.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: 'Akira Kato' , suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com Message-id: <004301ca5328$9d4e44b0$330c7c0a@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: AcpSnoE86Jg4e0U6TYaix1FN+MFaLwAiZ1pQ References: <4ADF839D.5000308@ericsson.com> <20091022.073218.111550193.kato@wide.ad.jp> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:01:56 -0000 I will fly out of Tokyo too and thinking of taking train to Hiroshima. Do Nozomi and Hikari indicate the types of train? Are they all bullet train? Do both of them get to Hiroshima? Linda Dunbar -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Akira Kato Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:32 PM To: suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not Suresh, I believe your comparison is quite fair. Cabin accomodation is essentially the same (same car serve as Nozomi and as Hikari). The only minor difference is that N-700 series cars don't serve as Hikari except early morning and late evening; In N-700, you have 100V AC power access in all window seats for your laptop. Please enjoy the travel to Hiroshima. -- Akira Kato From: Suresh Krishnan Subject: [76attendees] To JRPass or not Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:56:45 -0400 > Hi Folks, > I will be flying in and out of Tokyo and take a train to Hiroshima. I > do not intend to do any other rail travel. The two way Nozomi fare is > approx 37000 yen and the JR pass is approx 28000 yen. The JR pass is > not valid on the Nozomi and the fastest Hikari trains take 1 hour more > (40 mins slower + 20 mins change time) each way than the Nozomi. Other > than this time difference and a train change at Shin Osaka is there > anything else I need to think about? > > Cheers > Suresh > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From ole@cisco.com Thu Oct 22 08:32:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66B53A6A8E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:32:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.585 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.585 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Bubhm2RC6cUj for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7843A6858 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:32:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=879; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport03001; t=1256225589; x=1257435189; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20|Reply-To:=20Ole =20Jacobsen=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[76attende es]=20To=20JRPass=20or=20not|Date:=20Thu,=2022=20Oct=2020 09=2008:32:23=20-0700=20(PDT)|Message-ID:=20|To:=20Linda=20Dunba r=20|cc:=20"'Akira=20Kato'"=20,=20suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com,=0D=0A=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=2076attendees@ietf.org|MIME-Version:=201. 0|In-Reply-To:=20<004301ca5328$9d4e44b0$330c7c0a@china.hu awei.com>|References:=20<4ADF839D.5000308@ericsson.com> =20<20091022.073218.111550193.kato@wide.ad.jp>=0D=0A=20<0 04301ca5328$9d4e44b0$330c7c0a@china.huawei.com>; bh=4e9WI70K8eh2mEZ5csBVAZXPM2OfWS738rfeL6WMZqs=; b=ND40BdWcaudUngWXNSs9kvlqF0eknuBrJnnQx87ymxYpDPWZcEoC6DKv J6v3QDgiO2cA0CSJi9RJP+tp/3cjiFhyzBGmdvQ2W2RYBrpYU+49rH9YL vBicBwuZSQijHdEoZ4FQzMA3S9iK2K6Gzz/Mef9EIV8aQm/x3gukCM08H U=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-3.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtgGAEYY4EqrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbACDAsAvgRkIAYgFCY8qglWBagQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,605,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="198243232" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 22 Oct 2009 15:32:56 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9MFWuYA027991; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:32:56 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:32:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Linda Dunbar In-Reply-To: <004301ca5328$9d4e44b0$330c7c0a@china.huawei.com> Message-ID: References: <4ADF839D.5000308@ericsson.com> <20091022.073218.111550193.kato@wide.ad.jp> <004301ca5328$9d4e44b0$330c7c0a@china.huawei.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:32:59 -0000 See: hiroshima-info.info, item #5. There are three kinds of express trains: Kodama, Hikari and Nozomi, the latter being the fastest. Use hyperdia to determine your route: http://www.hyperdia.com/cgi-english/hyperWeb.cgi Enter "Tokyo" and "Hiroshima" in the two boxes and it will tell you everything you need including changes if necessary. Yes, they are all "bullet trains". Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Linda Dunbar wrote: > I will fly out of Tokyo too and thinking of taking train to Hiroshima. > > Do Nozomi and Hikari indicate the types of train? Are they all bullet train? > Do both of them get to Hiroshima? > > Linda Dunbar > > > > From ldunbar@huawei.com Thu Oct 22 08:58:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3612B3A69D4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:58:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CPEBgjeWtZbp for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usaga04-in.huawei.com (usaga04-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.180]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C96E28B797 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (usaga04-in [172.18.4.101]) by usaga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KRX008J8B1QXS@usaga04-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:58:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from L735042 ([10.124.12.51]) by usaga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KRX00B8XB1P5H@usaga04-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:58:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:58:37 -0500 From: Linda Dunbar In-reply-to: To: 'Ole Jacobsen' Message-id: <006601ca5330$84ee0f10$330c7c0a@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: AcpTLWNpHOJJLI/jTnyLfb759QpYwQAAvt5w References: <4ADF839D.5000308@ericsson.com> <20091022.073218.111550193.kato@wide.ad.jp> <004301ca5328$9d4e44b0$330c7c0a@china.huawei.com> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:58:30 -0000 Thank you very much for the link. Looks like that Nozomi has the most frequent run, every 20 minutes, vs. Hikari line is once an hour. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Ole Jacobsen [mailto:ole@cisco.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:32 AM To: Linda Dunbar Cc: 'Akira Kato'; suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com; 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not See: hiroshima-info.info, item #5. There are three kinds of express trains: Kodama, Hikari and Nozomi, the latter being the fastest. Use hyperdia to determine your route: http://www.hyperdia.com/cgi-english/hyperWeb.cgi Enter "Tokyo" and "Hiroshima" in the two boxes and it will tell you everything you need including changes if necessary. Yes, they are all "bullet trains". Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Linda Dunbar wrote: > I will fly out of Tokyo too and thinking of taking train to Hiroshima. > > Do Nozomi and Hikari indicate the types of train? Are they all bullet train? > Do both of them get to Hiroshima? > > Linda Dunbar > > > > From rajiva@cisco.com Thu Oct 22 09:05:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2DB3A67FB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:05:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bzCocUYUdNBk for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rtp-iport-1.cisco.com (rtp-iport-1.cisco.com [64.102.122.148]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDBFF3A67FA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:05:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=rajiva@cisco.com; l=1950; q=dns/txt; s=rtpiport01001; t=1256227555; x=1257437155; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20"Rajiv=20Asati=20(rajiva)"=20 |Subject:=20RE:=20[76attendees]=20To=20JRPass=20or=20not |Date:=20Thu,=2022=20Oct=202009=2012:05:47=20-0400 |Message-ID:=20<15B86BC7352F864BB53A47B540C089B6092C4BDF@ xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com>|To:=20"Linda=20Dunbar"=20,=20"Ole=20Jacobsen=20(ole)"=20|Cc:=20<76attendees@ietf.org>|MIME-Version:=201.0 |Content-Transfer-Encoding:=20quoted-printable |In-Reply-To:=20<006601ca5330$84ee0f10$330c7c0a@china.hua wei.com>|References:=20<4ADF839D.5000308@ericsson.com><20 091022.073218.111550193.kato@wide.ad.jp><004301ca5328$9d4 e44b0$330c7c0a@china.huawei.com>=20<006601ca5330$84ee0f10$330c7c 0a@china.huawei.com>; bh=WntXmJY4jNziEhlcVVy+AVXvhriNUQiPEbcXEPBHtL4=; b=YNjvuHuNPLmYWi30n8W22X7NwHpoxeEF8PQew8fGEkKJLeI2DfGoSDxc +4Z6RgrJON5Zc1Kly/CTNDHwm8R9RjkoyORmkll/soemL3/kxd35PeK4M DIKe4AcJufWwHNm7FyuwjXpbZmWoFfAxIBg+YVJSqAsKB8WUEYb2Mht3L 0=; Authentication-Results: rtp-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtgGAMcf4EpAZnwM/2dsb2JhbACDAsBZiScJjyuCVYFqBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,605,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="64375406" Received: from rtp-core-1.cisco.com ([64.102.124.12]) by rtp-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 22 Oct 2009 16:05:54 +0000 Received: from xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-201.cisco.com [64.102.31.12]) by rtp-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9MG5rtf021079; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:05:53 GMT Received: from xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.53]) by xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:05:53 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:05:47 -0400 Message-ID: <15B86BC7352F864BB53A47B540C089B6092C4BDF@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <006601ca5330$84ee0f10$330c7c0a@china.huawei.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] To JRPass or not Thread-Index: AcpTLWNpHOJJLI/jTnyLfb759QpYwQAAvt5wAAAWQnA= References: <4ADF839D.5000308@ericsson.com><20091022.073218.111550193.kato@wide.ad.jp><004301ca5328$9d4e44b0$330c7c0a@china.huawei.com> <006601ca5330$84ee0f10$330c7c0a@china.huawei.com> From: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" To: "Linda Dunbar" , "Ole Jacobsen (ole)" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2009 16:05:53.0127 (UTC) FILETIME=[87DB2770:01CA5331] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:05:45 -0000 How could one get the exchange voucher for JRPass? I am located in the US. Cheers, Rajiv > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Linda Dunbar > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:59 AM > To: Ole Jacobsen (ole) > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not >=20 > Thank you very much for the link. Looks like that Nozomi has the most > frequent run, every 20 minutes, vs. Hikari line is once an hour. >=20 > Linda >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Ole Jacobsen [mailto:ole@cisco.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:32 AM > To: Linda Dunbar > Cc: 'Akira Kato'; suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com; 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not >=20 >=20 > See: hiroshima-info.info, item #5. >=20 > There are three kinds of express trains: Kodama, Hikari and Nozomi, > the latter being the fastest. >=20 > Use hyperdia to determine your route: >=20 > http://www.hyperdia.com/cgi-english/hyperWeb.cgi >=20 > Enter "Tokyo" and "Hiroshima" in the two boxes and it will tell you > everything you need including changes if necessary. >=20 > Yes, they are all "bullet trains". >=20 > Ole >=20 >=20 > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Linda Dunbar wrote: >=20 > > I will fly out of Tokyo too and thinking of taking train to Hiroshima. > > > > Do Nozomi and Hikari indicate the types of train? Are they all bullet > train? > > Do both of them get to Hiroshima? > > > > Linda Dunbar > > > > > > > > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From ole@cisco.com Thu Oct 22 09:51:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722933A6982 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:51:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.585 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.585 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6-vqFqc3PdVD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6389F3A681F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:51:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=2482; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport01001; t=1256230320; x=1257439920; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20|Reply-To:=20Ole =20Jacobsen=20|Subject:=20RE:=20[76attende es]=20To=20JRPass=20or=20not|Date:=20Thu,=2022=20Oct=2020 09=2009:51:27=20-0700=20(PDT)|Message-ID:=20|To:=20"Rajiv=20Asat i=20(rajiva)"=20|cc:=20Linda=20Dunbar =20,=2076attendees@ietf.org |MIME-Version:=201.0|In-Reply-To:=20<15B86BC7352F864BB53A 47B540C089B6092C4BDF@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com> |References:=20<4ADF839D.5000308@ericsson.com><20091022.0 73218.111550193.kato@wide.ad.jp><004301ca5328$9d4e44b0$33 0c7c0a@china.huawei.com>=0D=0A=20<006601ca5330$84ee0f10$330c7c0a @china.huawei.com>=0D=0A=20<15B86BC7352F864BB53A47B540C08 9B6092C4BDF@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com>; bh=wbLVpGKB84ZBZs8raznoDwdLwX7MzzEOR/eDeehZfqQ=; b=Y4Z7EjCwa4+RPgwHaKqvXrUFzy+RPqR+B7hLvlyEOl9ZrfLIpq1XpkTE o4xcLjUY+ZqLAEZqHf8ivLeSfw09TrcQbLysVt3pSPfH+37o/7UtRQmj+ //oXYqDydapFKElYjeEHPFKtBf+zJiRlnCfVflEZ3Vs4u7z4sy9oZIY89 0=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,606,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="259938788" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 22 Oct 2009 16:52:00 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9MGq0pp011859; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:52:00 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:51:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" In-Reply-To: <15B86BC7352F864BB53A47B540C089B6092C4BDF@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: References: <4ADF839D.5000308@ericsson.com><20091022.073218.111550193.kato@wide.ad.jp><004301ca5328$9d4e44b0$330c7c0a@china.huawei.com> <006601ca5330$84ee0f10$330c7c0a@china.huawei.com> <15B86BC7352F864BB53A47B540C089B6092C4BDF@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:51:51 -0000 Please see: http://www.japanrailpass.net/eng/en001.html You need to get the voucher BEFORE you depart for Japan. JR passes CANNOT be purchased in Japan. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) wrote: > How could one get the exchange voucher for JRPass? I am located in the > US. > > Cheers, > Rajiv > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On > > Behalf Of Linda Dunbar > > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:59 AM > > To: Ole Jacobsen (ole) > > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not > > > > Thank you very much for the link. Looks like that Nozomi has the most > > frequent run, every 20 minutes, vs. Hikari line is once an hour. > > > > Linda > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ole Jacobsen [mailto:ole@cisco.com] > > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:32 AM > > To: Linda Dunbar > > Cc: 'Akira Kato'; suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com; 76attendees@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not > > > > > > See: hiroshima-info.info, item #5. > > > > There are three kinds of express trains: Kodama, Hikari and Nozomi, > > the latter being the fastest. > > > > Use hyperdia to determine your route: > > > > http://www.hyperdia.com/cgi-english/hyperWeb.cgi > > > > Enter "Tokyo" and "Hiroshima" in the two boxes and it will tell you > > everything you need including changes if necessary. > > > > Yes, they are all "bullet trains". > > > > Ole > > > > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > > Cisco Systems > > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > > > > > On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Linda Dunbar wrote: > > > > > I will fly out of Tokyo too and thinking of taking train to > Hiroshima. > > > > > > Do Nozomi and Hikari indicate the types of train? Are they all > bullet > > train? > > > Do both of them get to Hiroshima? > > > > > > Linda Dunbar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com Thu Oct 22 10:18:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBD23A6844 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:18:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4cpPzaiigWiM for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr2.ericy.com (imr2.ericy.com [198.24.6.3]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DDB3A680D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusrcmw750.eamcs.ericsson.se (eusrcmw750.exu.ericsson.se [138.85.77.50]) by imr2.ericy.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n9MHI9PQ014790; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:18:10 -0500 Received: from eusrcmw751.eamcs.ericsson.se ([138.85.77.51]) by eusrcmw750.eamcs.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:17:13 -0500 Received: from eusaamw0707.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.32]) by eusrcmw751.eamcs.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:17:13 -0500 Received: from [142.133.10.113] (147.117.20.212) by eusaamw0707.eamcs.ericsson.se (147.117.20.92) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.375.2; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:17:12 -0400 Message-ID: <4AE09382.5020708@ericsson.com> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:16:50 -0400 From: Suresh Krishnan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" References: <4ADF839D.5000308@ericsson.com><20091022.073218.111550193.kato@wide.ad.jp><004301ca5328$9d4e44b0$330c7c0a@china.huawei.com> <006601ca5330$84ee0f10$330c7c0a@china.huawei.com> <15B86BC7352F864BB53A47B540C089B6092C4BDF@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <15B86BC7352F864BB53A47B540C089B6092C4BDF@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2009 17:17:13.0388 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F1726C0:01CA533B] Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:18:05 -0000 Hi Rajiv, You ncan buy it from your travel agent. If you want to buy online, Kintetsu seems to have a good price. http://www.kintetsu.com/jrpass/index.php Cheers Suresh On 09-10-22 12:05 PM, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) wrote: > How could one get the exchange voucher for JRPass? I am located in the > US. > > Cheers, > Rajiv > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On >> Behalf Of Linda Dunbar >> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:59 AM >> To: Ole Jacobsen (ole) >> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not >> >> Thank you very much for the link. Looks like that Nozomi has the most >> frequent run, every 20 minutes, vs. Hikari line is once an hour. >> >> Linda >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ole Jacobsen [mailto:ole@cisco.com] >> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:32 AM >> To: Linda Dunbar >> Cc: 'Akira Kato'; suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com; 76attendees@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not >> >> >> See: hiroshima-info.info, item #5. >> >> There are three kinds of express trains: Kodama, Hikari and Nozomi, >> the latter being the fastest. >> >> Use hyperdia to determine your route: >> >> http://www.hyperdia.com/cgi-english/hyperWeb.cgi >> >> Enter "Tokyo" and "Hiroshima" in the two boxes and it will tell you >> everything you need including changes if necessary. >> >> Yes, they are all "bullet trains". >> >> Ole >> >> >> Ole J. Jacobsen >> Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal >> Cisco Systems >> Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 >> E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj >> >> >> >> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Linda Dunbar wrote: >> >>> I will fly out of Tokyo too and thinking of taking train to > Hiroshima. >>> Do Nozomi and Hikari indicate the types of train? Are they all > bullet >> train? >>> Do both of them get to Hiroshima? >>> >>> Linda Dunbar >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From rajiva@cisco.com Thu Oct 22 10:45:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CBE13A679F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:45:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JpWWhE7ibZve for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rtp-iport-1.cisco.com (rtp-iport-1.cisco.com [64.102.122.148]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CAF3A6809 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:45:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=rajiva@cisco.com; l=2977; q=dns/txt; s=rtpiport01001; t=1256233515; x=1257443115; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20"Rajiv=20Asati=20(rajiva)"=20 |Subject:=20RE:=20[76attendees]=20To=20JRPass=20or=20not |Date:=20Thu,=2022=20Oct=202009=2013:44:03=20-0400 |Message-ID:=20<15B86BC7352F864BB53A47B540C089B6092C4C87@ xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com>|To:=20"Suresh=20Krishnan"=20< suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com>|Cc:=20"Linda=20Dunbar"=20,=20"Ole=20Jacobsen=20(ole)"=20,=0D=0A=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<76attendees@ietf.o rg>|MIME-Version:=201.0|Content-Transfer-Encoding:=20quot ed-printable|In-Reply-To:=20<4AE09382.5020708@ericsson.co m>|References:=20<4ADF839D.5000308@ericsson.com><20091022 .073218.111550193.kato@wide.ad.jp><004301ca5328$9d4e44b0$ 330c7c0a@china.huawei.com>=09<006601ca5330$84ee0f10$330c7c0a@chi na.huawei.com>=20<15B86BC7352F864BB53A47B540C089B6092C4BD F@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com>=20<4AE09382.5020708@ericsso n.com>; bh=CLufGJXtAdsVp3q+TDaQHuMM6y57u8YmUFcVmAXsrFk=; b=lct1vzBb1h4hUEPGEFvIqvfy6wBKV2gG4JVQ0cbeN9dtnzxjEmBgXFwy MabrfoV45nsDujq1/RgZdRFGlLCTepx+msMg6PAeDtsQKkUavkuUFaSFR hRVTuMeLjVsxndK4ZB3nwDjDFLiBMAepkIToiAE5vjo5IiARgWieZi6lQ w=; Authentication-Results: rtp-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtgGADc34EpAZnwM/2dsb2JhbACDAqEYn2SJJwmPLYJVgWoE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,606,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="64391211" Received: from rtp-core-1.cisco.com ([64.102.124.12]) by rtp-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 22 Oct 2009 17:45:14 +0000 Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by rtp-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9MHjEjE005257; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:45:14 GMT Received: from xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.53]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:45:14 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:44:03 -0400 Message-ID: <15B86BC7352F864BB53A47B540C089B6092C4C87@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <4AE09382.5020708@ericsson.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] To JRPass or not Thread-Index: AcpTO6J1RXJsxXnbTtKV5X44CWB0rgAAuTdw References: <4ADF839D.5000308@ericsson.com><20091022.073218.111550193.kato@wide.ad.jp><004301ca5328$9d4e44b0$330c7c0a@china.huawei.com> <006601ca5330$84ee0f10$330c7c0a@china.huawei.com> <15B86BC7352F864BB53A47B540C089B6092C4BDF@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com> <4AE09382.5020708@ericsson.com> From: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" To: "Suresh Krishnan" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2009 17:45:14.0453 (UTC) FILETIME=[69155050:01CA533F] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:45:08 -0000 Hi Suresh, This is what I was looking for. Thanks for the pointer. I am assuming that we need to get just the regular pass (not JR east or west). Cheers, Rajiv > -----Original Message----- > From: Suresh Krishnan [mailto:suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:17 PM > To: Rajiv Asati (rajiva) > Cc: Linda Dunbar; Ole Jacobsen (ole); 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not >=20 > Hi Rajiv, > You ncan buy it from your travel agent. If you want to buy online, > Kintetsu seems to have a good price. >=20 > http://www.kintetsu.com/jrpass/index.php >=20 > Cheers > Suresh >=20 > On 09-10-22 12:05 PM, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) wrote: > > How could one get the exchange voucher for JRPass? I am located in the > > US. > > > > Cheers, > > Rajiv > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org > > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On > >> Behalf Of Linda Dunbar > >> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:59 AM > >> To: Ole Jacobsen (ole) > >> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not > >> > >> Thank you very much for the link. Looks like that Nozomi has the most > >> frequent run, every 20 minutes, vs. Hikari line is once an hour. > >> > >> Linda > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Ole Jacobsen [mailto:ole@cisco.com] > >> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:32 AM > >> To: Linda Dunbar > >> Cc: 'Akira Kato'; suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com; 76attendees@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] To JRPass or not > >> > >> > >> See: hiroshima-info.info, item #5. > >> > >> There are three kinds of express trains: Kodama, Hikari and Nozomi, > >> the latter being the fastest. > >> > >> Use hyperdia to determine your route: > >> > >> http://www.hyperdia.com/cgi-english/hyperWeb.cgi > >> > >> Enter "Tokyo" and "Hiroshima" in the two boxes and it will tell you > >> everything you need including changes if necessary. > >> > >> Yes, they are all "bullet trains". > >> > >> Ole > >> > >> > >> Ole J. Jacobsen > >> Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > >> Cisco Systems > >> Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > >> E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Linda Dunbar wrote: > >> > >>> I will fly out of Tokyo too and thinking of taking train to > > Hiroshima. > >>> Do Nozomi and Hikari indicate the types of train? Are they all > > bullet > >> train? > >>> Do both of them get to Hiroshima? > >>> > >>> Linda Dunbar > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 76attendees mailing list > >> 76attendees@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr Fri Oct 23 05:11:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6793A67F2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:11:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.125 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.125 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=3.124, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1ZRWCcsvgBq1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Wifi at conferences X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:53:32 -0000 Stephane Bortzmeyer allegedly wrote on 10/23/2009 8:12 AM: > http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2009/10/08.html > > IETF is not the worst :-) On the contrary, given the demands put on the network, it might be the best. From jinmei@isc.org Sat Oct 24 18:53:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298DE3A67C0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:53:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zbu+bwqWHEnq for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mon.jinmei.org (mon.jinmei.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:36::162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E80B3A677E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jmb.jinmei.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb:217:f2ff:fee0:a91f]) by mon.jinmei.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8786B33C37; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:53:26 -0700 Message-ID: From: JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= To: Eric Burger In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/22.1 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:53:16 -0000 At Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:06:07 -0400, Eric Burger wrote: > OK - this time I have mostly healed. Anyone up to try? Is our only > option indoor? I suspect if there's any option it would be indoor. --- JINMEI, Tatuya Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. From eburger@standardstrack.com Sun Oct 25 12:32:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA5F3A6927 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:32:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.781 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.781 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.329, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g3j-RWg6rgFQ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gs19.inmotionhosting.com (gs19b.inmotionhosting.com [66.117.3.189]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE2428C16B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip68-100-199-8.dc.dc.cox.net ([68.100.199.8] helo=[192.168.15.199]) by gs19.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N28pK-0002mS-Dg for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:32:30 -0700 Message-Id: From: Eric Burger To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:32:31 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs19.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: [76attendees] Soccer, part II X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:32:22 -0000 So far, an overwhelming 3 people have expressed interest in playing in Hiroshima. On the one hand, in Dublin when I asked for interest, around 20 folks responded. Game night, we had close to 30 show up. On the other hand, in Stockholm when I asked for interest, around 15 folks responded and fewer showed up. Unless I hear otherwise, I'm leaving my boots at home :-( From fernando.gont.netbook.win@gmail.com Sun Oct 25 15:04:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9463A69EC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:04:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ylI-PUzXWjjg for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yx0-f124.google.com (mail-yx0-f124.google.com [209.85.210.124]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23303A6941 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so528281yxe.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:04:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2hP/wPyCiQGkt5SIGEpOyX/AQiUjlZiswDDXALIJrBg=; b=FGyDg0YK4a40ijMMGcQtB13UJjOU2G+zkjmaLav7zplZW56NMVAgvDPp7hit6FH47V JFgXyjR/J3DperqKh9+4POMBYFj0OdiLZAmGjQc7wjSSa3Uv1JdMu3l0OjagR355k+7Y V/TNvEtLeu/BPG48gvQrUZsjvnxTnlGB3KdJs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=l8R4tGZ/PTkeoBblm3gdjors5tIEariNu8TZaYwoE6R0lyWyHXEVJLQqFY4UIHZ+lT 4q+f0oFJRigjQeskSHBEZBrXoR+OTogVO+f2rQaZ3yeCK0sUF+MTGeLF9EPbBnCdhHPX ADzDeEuCdgXOC2lGJ3AcuZHj/Fm/yNT4vzifE= Received: by 10.150.169.6 with SMTP id r6mr22576398ybe.95.1256508288477; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.167? (129-130-17-190.fibertel.com.ar [190.17.130.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm853626ywd.29.2009.10.25.15.04.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Fernando Gont Message-ID: <4AE4CB72.3040109@gont.com.ar> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:04:34 -0200 From: Fernando Gont User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Burger References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=D076FFF1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part II X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:04:39 -0000 Hello, Sorry to join so late: But I would love to play soccer in Hiroshima. Thanks, Fernando Eric Burger wrote: > So far, an overwhelming 3 people have expressed interest in playing in > Hiroshima. > > On the one hand, in Dublin when I asked for interest, around 20 folks > responded. Game night, we had close to 30 show up. > > On the other hand, in Stockholm when I asked for interest, around 15 > folks responded and fewer showed up. > > Unless I hear otherwise, I'm leaving my boots at home :-( > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > -- Fernando Gont e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@acm.org PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1 From ole@cisco.com Sun Oct 25 22:07:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9ED3A68D6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:07:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.586 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.586 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.013, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sw9UO7vzfmjD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A333A67A5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj8GAFPL5EqrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbACCf7wFgRkIAYgFCY0rglWBagQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,623,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="261210661" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 26 Oct 2009 05:07:47 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9Q57laQ012259 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:07:47 GMT Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:07:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [76attendees] Hyperdia link changed X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:07:34 -0000 Looks like the all important Hyperdia travel planning pages have been redesigned in the last couple of days, so if you tried using the links at hiroshima-info.info you may have gotten an error. I have now updated it to the link which is: http://www.hyperdia.com/en/ Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From jason_livingood@cable.comcast.com Mon Oct 26 07:35:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA95E3A68D4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:35:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.02 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.02 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.581, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qm4OLLiDb5e8 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paoakoavas09.cable.comcast.com (paoakoavas09.cable.comcast.com [208.17.35.58]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4443A67FD for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ([10.52.116.30]) by paoakoavas09.cable.comcast.com with ESMTP id KP-NTF18.81279915; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:35:05 -0400 Received: from PACDCEXCMB04.cable.comcast.com ([24.40.15.86]) by PAOAKEXCSMTP01.cable.comcast.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:35:05 -0400 Received: from 198.137.252.126 ([198.137.252.126]) by PACDCEXCMB04.cable.comcast.com ([24.40.15.86]) via Exchange Front-End Server webmail.comcast.com ([198.137.252.76]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:35:05 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:35:01 -0400 From: Jason Livingood To: <76attendees@ietf.org> Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Mazda Museum in Hiroshima Thread-Index: AcpWSX/Jmpjt9iFh80OA4zWt59tBTg== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3339398105_3529390" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2009 14:35:05.0856 (UTC) FILETIME=[82AE9000:01CA5649] Subject: [76attendees] Mazda Museum in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:35:16 -0000 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3339398105_3529390 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable For any of you who may also enjoy cars like I do, and possibly even Mazdas in particular (I drive a Mazda Miata MX-5 in amateur racing competition), you may be very interested to know that the Mazda Museum is located in Hiroshima! The museum showcases historical vehicles and technology, and apparently provides a glimpse of their production line. You can see an overview of the museum=B9s exhibits at http://www.mazda.com/mazdaspirit/museum/. Please note that you must make a reservation to attend a tour of the museum= . There are English-language tours each business day at 10:00am local time. In order to make a reservation, you can arrange this with Mazda by emailing their museum staff at mazdamuseum@mail.mazda.co.jp. I=B9ve exchanged email with the museum and it appears they have a fair amount of capacity every morning of the week of the IETF meeting. Location: http://www.mazda.com/mazdaspirit/museum/access/ Reservation Info: http://www.mazda.com/mazdaspirit/museum/reservations/ Jason Livingood --B_3339398105_3529390 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Mazda Museum in Hiroshima For any of you who may also enjoy cars like I do, and possibly even Mazdas= in particular (I drive a Mazda Miata MX-5 in amateur racing competition), y= ou may be very interested to know that the Mazda Museum is located in Hirosh= ima!  The museum showcases historical vehicles and technology, and appa= rently provides a glimpse of their production line.  You can see an ove= rview of the museum’s exhibits at http://www.mazda.com/mazdaspirit/museum/.  

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Jason Livingood --B_3339398105_3529390-- From inacio@cert.org Mon Oct 26 09:40:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F5428C0F4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:40:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fHCY2cvzGMgC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shetland.sei.cmu.edu (shetland.sei.cmu.edu [192.58.107.44]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7DC28C0EC for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms01.sei.cmu.edu (ms01.sei.cmu.edu [128.237.22.36]) by shetland.sei.cmu.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/1290) with ESMTP id n9QGesbn022005; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:40:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cert.org; s=jthatj15xw2j; t=1256575255; bh=lIULxY3tf0UjYkDEKwNJlA21z7EHjZn4Vio6/s/93gU=; h=From:To:CC:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: MIME-Version:Sender:Reply-To:References; b=KvsQR1PwIqAeFbh3CB91i06H9bMLSBEZhsf6i9RrxVEtncSv1+yVXXDZ0FPOcm9OW KDoiDkPooJGcR2Ue9OkPIF6EOnMMZkGeSjJ7O/QKQTJjCx5O6ggGVW3BmrqiJNjgT5 8Cul6vUO6wkCZRFMBTP95Hbi4p+cxjIVUC65urZw= Received: from owa.sei.cmu.edu (tyranus.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.28.15]) by ms01.sei.cmu.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1/1295) with ESMTP id n9QGeoof031175; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:40:50 -0400 Received: from EXCHANGE.sei.cmu.edu ([10.64.28.12]) by tyranus.sei.cmu.edu ([10.64.28.15]) with mapi; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:40:50 -0400 From: Chris Inacio To: Eric Burger Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:40:50 -0400 Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Soccer, part II Thread-Index: AcpVvzSeV6kEL95jQ2Su1DYUWgCGxwAm965b Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4AE4CB72.3040109@gont.com.ar> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/13.0.0.090609 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3339405650_623396" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part II X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:40:43 -0000 --B_3339405650_623396 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I'll play; but I'm just an American techie. Chris Inacio On 10/25/09 6:04 PM, "Fernando Gont" wrote: > Hello, > > Sorry to join so late: But I would love to play soccer in Hiroshima. > > Thanks, > Fernando > > > > > Eric Burger wrote: >> So far, an overwhelming 3 people have expressed interest in playing in >> Hiroshima. >> >> On the one hand, in Dublin when I asked for interest, around 20 folks >> responded. Game night, we had close to 30 show up. >> >> On the other hand, in Stockholm when I asked for interest, around 15 >> folks responded and fewer showed up. >> >> Unless I hear otherwise, I'm leaving my boots at home :-( >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> --B_3339405650_623396 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIISBgYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIR9zCCEfMCAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC D5kwggVuMIIEVqADAgECAhAqkYfG+cwc8EvotF/f29kvMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMIGZMQsw CQYDVQQGEwJVUzEYMBYGA1UEChMPVS5TLiBHb3Zlcm5tZW50MQwwCgYDVQQLEwNFQ0ExIjAg BgNVBAsTGUNlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gQXV0aG9yaXRpZXMxPjA8BgNVBAMTNVZlcmlTaWduIENs aWVudCBFeHRlcm5hbCBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIEF1dGhvcml0eSAtIEcyMB4XDTA5MDUxOTAw MDAwMFoXDTEwMDUxOTIzNTk1OVowgZAxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlVTMRgwFgYDVQQKEw9VLlMuIEdv 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0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part II X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:36:52 -0000 Eric Burger wrote: > So far, an overwhelming 3 people have expressed interest in playing in > Hiroshima. > I'll join! Are you aiming for an indoor or an outdoor field? Depending on that is the choice of cleats. > On the one hand, in Dublin when I asked for interest, around 20 folks > responded. Game night, we had close to 30 show up. > > On the other hand, in Stockholm when I asked for interest, around 15 > folks responded and fewer showed up. Oh these football-lovers Europeans :D > > Unless I hear otherwise, I'm leaving my boots at home :-( > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From fernando.gont.netbook.win@gmail.com Mon Oct 26 16:45:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E883A692E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:45:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n-3nsc3gbWHW for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yx0-f124.google.com (mail-yx0-f124.google.com [209.85.210.124]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757DD28C456 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so739735yxe.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:45:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eXpKGFC9n+xLBL0qg8GN7zbhvCR4q8V30pBTIFkKUec=; b=akgCxvufKjdR5yPdbnX4dbQy2fiK8rwVQsiFmCT+nQugzE0QC+8IbP9txCVaxk5kc4 KvmYsOkXkSPgJHrj/nYF0GeKXSvKr48J8iqKZqNB5vZvxTbzdNa/+9NrmpWQYCh8zMIl fCbBZVPLKmc37XMyPhfAwSwrwXgntNqhkbvDs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=UAGl3o+/+leiDxqGQHH8to1dQ/xxgoyRg6RZ135f8YB/ogFpKzhdiYCvkr63CgISt2 fyI62VxWmy14UGo8IgGETi5PXZG90OGqClumP08VI7vurpowqZPAZCOtVNseWbCwQ2Kh ac+F/ydALsOsFl/exNejKYvYz7/MXKkLndG9k= Received: by 10.150.108.23 with SMTP id g23mr584734ybc.207.1256600725415; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.201.42? ([200.182.121.219]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 15sm1587104gxk.8.2009.10.26.16.45.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Fernando Gont Message-ID: <4AE61A4B.10209@gont.com.ar> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:53:15 -0200 From: Fernando Gont User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Inacio References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=D076FFF1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part II X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:45:16 -0000 Okay, who's keeping track of the list of potential soccer players? Fernando -- from Maradona-Land ;-), but have not played soccer for the last four years (*shame* on me). Fernando Chris Inacio wrote: > I'll play; but I'm just an American techie. > > Chris Inacio > > On 10/25/09 6:04 PM, "Fernando Gont" wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Sorry to join so late: But I would love to play soccer in Hiroshima. >> >> Thanks, >> Fernando >> >> >> >> >> Eric Burger wrote: >>> So far, an overwhelming 3 people have expressed interest in playing in >>> Hiroshima. >>> >>> On the one hand, in Dublin when I asked for interest, around 20 folks >>> responded. Game night, we had close to 30 show up. >>> >>> On the other hand, in Stockholm when I asked for interest, around 15 >>> folks responded and fewer showed up. >>> >>> Unless I hear otherwise, I'm leaving my boots at home :-( >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 76attendees mailing list >>> 76attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 76attendees mailing list >>> 76attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees -- Fernando Gont e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@acm.org PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1 From sebastian@nzrs.net.nz Mon Oct 26 18:05:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4833A692A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:05:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.935 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.935 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.372, BAYES_00=-2.599, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TCXYQevL2vtE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srsomail.nzrs.net.nz (srsomail.nzrs.net.nz [202.46.183.22]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6526D3A6849 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (srsomail.office.nzrs.net.nz [202.46.183.22]) by srsomail.nzrs.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E07122036 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:05:24 +1300 (NZDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at srsomail.office.nzrs.net.nz Received: from srsomail.nzrs.net.nz ([202.46.183.22]) by localhost (srsomail.office.nzrs.net.nz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e+YCwowf0cLU for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:05:14 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from [192.168.22.185] (unknown [192.168.22.185]) by srsomail.nzrs.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FC02203D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:05:14 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <4AE64749.9080409@nzrs.net.nz> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:05:13 +1300 From: Sebastian Castro User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> References: <4AE61A4B.10209@gont.com.ar> In-Reply-To: <4AE61A4B.10209@gont.com.ar> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part II X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:05:13 -0000 Fernando Gont wrote: > Okay, who's keeping track of the list of potential soccer players? > > Fernando -- from Maradona-Land ;-), but have not played soccer for the > last four years (*shame* on me). > Fernando, I don't know if stating you come form Argentina by referencing Maradona is good for your public image ;) (considering the last episode after the match with Uruguay). In any case, adding to the list Sebastian -- from Maradona-land west neighbor ;D Cheers! > Fernando > > > > > Chris Inacio wrote: >> I'll play; but I'm just an American techie. >> >> Chris Inacio >> >> On 10/25/09 6:04 PM, "Fernando Gont" wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Sorry to join so late: But I would love to play soccer in Hiroshima. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Fernando >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Eric Burger wrote: >>>> So far, an overwhelming 3 people have expressed interest in playing in >>>> Hiroshima. >>>> >>>> On the one hand, in Dublin when I asked for interest, around 20 folks >>>> responded. Game night, we had close to 30 show up. >>>> >>>> On the other hand, in Stockholm when I asked for interest, around 15 >>>> folks responded and fewer showed up. >>>> >>>> Unless I hear otherwise, I'm leaving my boots at home :-( >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 76attendees mailing list >>>> 76attendees@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 76attendees mailing list >>>> 76attendees@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From ogud@ogud.com Tue Oct 27 05:37:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB50128C1A5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:37:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.078, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ypgfd+nttN60 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C5428C1C3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Puki.ogud.com (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9RCbuWh084334; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:37:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) Message-Id: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:37:38 -0400 To: Eric Burger , 76attendees@ietf.org From: Olafur Gudmundsson In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part II X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:37:48 -0000 At 15:32 25/10/2009, Eric Burger wrote: >So far, an overwhelming 3 people have expressed interest in playing in >Hiroshima. > >On the one hand, in Dublin when I asked for interest, around 20 folks >responded. Game night, we had close to 30 show up. > >On the other hand, in Stockholm when I asked for interest, around 15 >folks responded and fewer showed up. > >Unless I hear otherwise, I'm leaving my boots at home :-( Sign up at: http://www.doodle.com/xm4iewd7pbcn3nkp I'm told we may have a better chance of getting a Futsal court than a field, so stay tuned on which boots to pack :-) Olafur From eburger@standardstrack.com Tue Oct 27 12:22:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045B828C101 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:22:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.669 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.669 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.929, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hSXGWh9jbfVD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gs19.inmotionhosting.com (gs19b.inmotionhosting.com [66.117.3.189]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A071728C0FB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neustargw.va.neustar.com ([209.173.53.233] helo=[10.31.32.58]) by gs19.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N2rcs-0007QB-HM for 76attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:22:38 -0700 Message-Id: <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> From: Eric Burger To: 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-64--808714142 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:22:39 -0400 References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs19.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: [76attendees] Soccer, part III X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:22:30 -0000 --Apple-Mail-64--808714142 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Olafur Gudmundsson set up a doodle poll (thanks!) at: http://www.doodle.com/xm4iewd7pbcn3nkp We need this information to book a venue. Please take the time to fill out the poll. So far, I have interest from: Char Sample (?) Olafur Gundmundsson JINMEI Tatuya Roque Gagliano Joerg Ott (maybe) Martin R=F6hricht (yes - we could do indoor/futsal) Jo=E3o Taveira Ara=FAjo Fernando Gont Chris Inacio Sebastian Castro If your name is on this list, PLEASE fill out the doodle poll, as well. In the comments field, please indicate if Futsal is OK. That may cost =20= us up to $100 total, or less than $10 each.= --Apple-Mail-64--808714142 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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(ip-213-135-236-32.static.luxdsl.pt.lu [213.135.236.32]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 14sm295188bwz.5.2009.10.29.09.55.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Fernando Gont Message-ID: <4AE9BAD4.4010807@gont.com.ar> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:55:00 -0200 From: Fernando Gont User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Castro References: <4AE61A4B.10209@gont.com.ar> <4AE64749.9080409@nzrs.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <4AE64749.9080409@nzrs.net.nz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=D076FFF1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part II X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:54:59 -0000 Sebastian Castro wrote: >> Fernando -- from Maradona-Land ;-), but have not played soccer for the >> last four years (*shame* on me). > > Fernando, I don't know if stating you come form Argentina by referencing > Maradona is good for your public image ;) (considering the last episode > after the match with Uruguay). Well, that's Maradona (politically-incorrect by definition ;-) ). You learn to appreciate him. That's part of the fun of having him as a couch: even if our team doesn't perform good, you can still have fun in the press conference. ;-) Kind regards, -- Fernando Gont e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@acm.org PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1 From jinmei@isc.org Thu Oct 29 10:05:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EB33A687A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:05:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e3SVNlzbBC+8 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mon.jinmei.org (mon.jinmei.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:36::162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA95D3A6822 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jmb.jinmei.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:e:21b:63ff:fe08:3e64]) by mon.jinmei.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6D88833C37; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:05:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:05:17 -0700 Message-ID: From: JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= To: Eric Burger In-Reply-To: <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/22.1 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part III X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:05:04 -0000 At Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:22:39 -0400, Eric Burger wrote: > Olafur Gudmundsson set up a doodle poll (thanks!) at: > http://www.doodle.com/xm4iewd7pbcn3nkp > We need this information to book a venue. According to the doodle poll, futsal (not full soccer) on Monday or Thursday seems to be the choice. Meanwhile, a local person suggested me a futsal court http://www.i-fut.com/ (only Japanese pages are available, sorry) http://maps.google.com/maps?q=34.364822N,132.473925E I checked the availability and found Monday evening is already fully booked. google maps say it takes about 35 minutes from ANA Crowne Plaza (18 min of street car ride + 15min walk - or maybe we can share a tax to get there faster?). The fee is 12600JPY for one hour. Non member can only use the court up to 1 hour. They rent futsal shoes (300JPY) btw. Considering all of these, if we go with this plan, it's - Thursday evening: 8:30pm to 9:30pm - Meet up at the hotel 7:45pm-ish, share a tax (preferably) or take a street car to the court - Fee: assuming we have 12 participants, about 1000JPY each. Is that okay? Then we should book the court ASAP. --- JINMEI, Tatuya Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. From wood@isoc.org Thu Oct 29 13:24:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC0B3A694A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:24:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id igL5H95G1jar for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp121.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp121.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.121]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150BF3A63EC for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay32.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay32.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 45AB61B45E1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay32.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: wood-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 3D4F11B45D5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: From: Greg Wood To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:25:01 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [76attendees] ISOC Panel at IETF 76 Registration Information X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:24:46 -0000 Dear Colleagues: Following the successful Internet Society panels on IPv6 held in San Francisco during IETF 74 and on Securing the DNS held in Stockholm during IETF 75, we are planning a ISOC panel during IETF 76 in Hiroshima, Japan: Subject: Internet Bandwidth Growth: Dealing with Reality Place: Orchid West Room, ANA Crowne Plaza Hotel, Hiroshima, Japan Time: Tuesday, 10 November 2009, during the IETF lunch break Online registration will be available at: https://www.isoc.org/isoc/conferences/registration/?id=17 To account for the broad range of home timezones of IETF participants, half of the available spaces will be open for registration at 0000 UTC on 30 October 2009 with the remaining spaces made available at 1200 UTC on 30 October 2009. More information about the panel can be found at: http://www.isoc.org/isoc/conferences/bwpanel/ Sincerely, -Greg -- Greg Wood Internet Society InternetSociety.org office: +1-703-439-2145 mobile: +1-703-625-3917 From eburger@standardstrack.com Thu Oct 29 19:57:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70CE3A6960 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:57:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.729 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.729 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.570, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qKVTHDj6c06m for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gs19.inmotionhosting.com (gs19b.inmotionhosting.com [66.117.3.189]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A813A67C0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip68-100-199-8.dc.dc.cox.net ([68.100.199.8] helo=[192.168.15.199]) by gs19.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N3hgE-0001B2-D3; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:57:34 -0700 Message-Id: <5217BF83-1C8B-4AA2-8849-7E80D3CA9CF7@standardstrack.com> From: Eric Burger To: =?UTF-8?Q?JINMEI_Tatuya_/_=E7=A5=9E=E6=98=8E=E9=81=94=E5=93=89?= In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:57:42 -0400 References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs19.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part III X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:57:28 -0000 I vote YES!!! Can I use my turf shoes / sneakers? Thanks for figuring this out! On Oct 29, 2009, at 1:05 PM, JINMEI Tatuya / =E7=A5=9E=E6=98=8E=E9=81=94=E5= =93=89 wrote: > At Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:22:39 -0400, > Eric Burger wrote: > >> Olafur Gudmundsson set up a doodle poll (thanks!) at: >> http://www.doodle.com/xm4iewd7pbcn3nkp >> We need this information to book a venue. > > According to the doodle poll, futsal (not full soccer) on Monday or > Thursday seems to be the choice. > > Meanwhile, a local person suggested me a futsal court > http://www.i-fut.com/ (only Japanese pages are available, sorry) > http://maps.google.com/maps?q=3D34.364822N,132.473925E > > I checked the availability and found Monday evening is already fully > booked. > > google maps say it takes about 35 minutes from ANA Crowne Plaza (18 > min of street car ride + 15min walk - or maybe we can share a tax to > get there faster?). > > The fee is 12600JPY for one hour. Non member can only use the court > up to 1 hour. They rent futsal shoes (300JPY) btw. > > Considering all of these, if we go with this plan, it's > > - Thursday evening: 8:30pm to 9:30pm > - Meet up at the hotel 7:45pm-ish, share a tax (preferably) or take a > street car to the court > - Fee: assuming we have 12 participants, about 1000JPY each. > > Is that okay? Then we should book the court ASAP. > > --- > JINMEI, Tatuya > Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. From jinmei@isc.org Thu Oct 29 23:53:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FFB3A686B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:53:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gfgTh8+bgEYd for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mon.jinmei.org (mon.jinmei.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:36::162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E9C3A6852 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jmb.jinmei.org (adsl-209-233-31-46.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [209.233.31.46]) by mon.jinmei.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 44C7B33C37; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:53:42 -0700 Message-ID: From: JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= To: Eric Burger , 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/22.1 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part III X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:53:31 -0000 At Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:05:17 -0700, JINMEI Tatuya wrote: > Meanwhile, a local person suggested me a futsal court > http://www.i-fut.com/ (only Japanese pages are available, sorry) > http://maps.google.com/maps?q=34.364822N,132.473925E > Considering all of these, if we go with this plan, it's > > - Thursday evening: 8:30pm to 9:30pm > - Meet up at the hotel 7:45pm-ish, share a tax (preferably) or take a > street car to the court > - Fee: assuming we have 12 participants, about 1000JPY each. > > Is that okay? Then we should book the court ASAP. Update: I've reserved a single court based on the plan. I don't know what kind of shoes are allowed (at least use of "spike shoes" seems to be prohibited). I can ask the management office if anyone wants to be sure. One possible concern: doodle indicates 14 people have shown interest (for Thursday). Is a single futsal court sufficient for this size of group? My general understanding is that a futsal game is normally played by 10 player in the field and since it's pretty hard players are in/out frequently - so I think 14(-ish) are actually a good size of group, but if anyone familiar with futsal thinks it's too optimistic please point it out. --- JINMEI, Tatuya Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. From scott.brim@gmail.com Fri Oct 30 05:47:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4121C3A6954 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:47:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bZPPOx0g4FMT for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f203.google.com (mail-qy0-f203.google.com [209.85.221.203]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570DF3A67B6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qyk41 with SMTP id 41so1674689qyk.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:47:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Bk3GI2l2rAmAFPPUQAs64NAht26abnGSB7Wr3wG+YKQ=; b=q76dakTMDK/XLD8yRvyZlQFV3/EIvbkA0GL2LnONC7hh2ONTZYJPBdS5JqXu3zJc57 qKEiUXvOOnEgXA1X4pdZixl7OhDvMOxYPZjkHClF1V7N3Wb+CKO80ZynSRYGTsxymZT4 jS0HsDm+BV6no6iJLQBjlIOlkpV5W+u3q7ILE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=L+Umk6UiaEPsXWuy8QqNzUgHJKvG0lKmX+u4ZyvjgYrxwqsLwMA95TUZpGqeRbXFbk 46X3aKWOnveYpJXJ3t1qppyqIbyJh8yL04XtQSne00tm94BcdJUQiqFTLHqxew0+NLNx 9QTge2gguXJgG+6O6QoMnXf6rJUUpVFL+Az4k= Received: by 10.224.111.12 with SMTP id q12mr926800qap.330.1256906857500; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbrim-mbp.local (cpe-67-241-43-66.twcny.res.rr.com [67.241.43.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm50176qyk.13.2009.10.30.05.47.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:47:35 -0400 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?SklOTUVJIFRhdHV5YSAvIOelnuaYjumBlOWTiQ==?= References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part III X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:47:24 -0000 JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 allegedly wrote on 10/30/2009 2:53 AM: > I don't know > what kind of shoes are allowed (at least use of "spike shoes" seems to > be prohibited). I'm too old to play with you "youngsters" but I used to, and cleats would be a bad idea. There are shoes designed for it. Sneakers are tolerable as long as they are not built for jogging, with a wide bottom -- you'll catch an edge and hurt your ankle. > One possible concern: doodle indicates 14 people have shown interest > (for Thursday). Is a single futsal court sufficient for this size of > group? My general understanding is that a futsal game is normally > played by 10 player in the field and since it's pretty hard players > are in/out frequently - so I think 14(-ish) are actually a good size > of group, but if anyone familiar with futsal thinks it's too > optimistic please point it out. My favorite way of handling this was to split into three teams and rotate through frequently. A particular team is on the field for two rotations, and thus plays both the others. You can also play six on a side. 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(ip-213-135-236-32.static.luxdsl.pt.lu [213.135.236.32]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 15sm403425bwz.12.2009.10.30.06.11.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Fernando Gont Message-ID: <4AEAD7DC.6020904@gont.com.ar> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:11:08 -0200 From: Fernando Gont User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?SklOTUVJIFRhdHV5YSAvIOelnuaYjumBlOWTiQ==?= References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=D076FFF1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part III X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:11:15 -0000 JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 wrote: > One possible concern: doodle indicates 14 people have shown interest > (for Thursday). Is a single futsal court sufficient for this size of > group? With fourteen people (and probably a few more, that simply didn't fill out the doodle form) it might be a good to get a full soccer court. For playing 11-11 players in the field, or 9-9, or whatever. If not, maybe we could have two futsal courts? Thanks! Kind regards, -- Fernando Gont e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@acm.org PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1 From simon.perreault@viagenie.ca Fri Oct 30 06:30:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5383A681A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:30:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0Ya6YKhj3mVx for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68C23A6817 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ringo.viagenie.ca (ringo.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:c000::67]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8312720DFA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4AEAEA6E.6070300@viagenie.ca> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:30:22 -0400 From: Simon Perreault User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20091014 Fedora/3.0-2.8.b4.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0b4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAD7DC.6020904@gont.com.ar> In-Reply-To: <4AEAD7DC.6020904@gont.com.ar> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part III X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:30:08 -0000 Fernando Gont wrote, on 2009-10-30 08:11: > With fourteen people (and probably a few more, that simply didn't fill > out the doodle form) it might be a good to get a full soccer court. For > playing 11-11 players in the field, or 9-9, or whatever. If not, maybe > we could have two futsal courts? In Stockholm there much fewer people who came than people who said they would. Simon -- DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca vCard 4.0 --> http://www.vcarddav.org From eburger@standardstrack.com Fri Oct 30 08:41:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CE63A68E9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:41:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.979 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.979 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.620, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iXMK+fubYurf for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gs19.inmotionhosting.com (gs19b.inmotionhosting.com [66.117.3.189]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004923A6782 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neustargw.va.neustar.com ([209.173.53.233] helo=[10.31.32.58]) by gs19.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N3tbU-0005LK-2E; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:41:28 -0700 Message-Id: <66FBF2A4-644E-4E42-8FC1-32E6E4C37B8F@standardstrack.com> From: Eric Burger To: Scott Brim In-Reply-To: <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:41:27 -0400 References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs19.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part III X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:41:15 -0000 Scott - You're never too old! As for size: if we are doing outdoor, 12-14/side is great. If we are doing indoor, 5 on the field and 10/side is great. My understanding is futsal is in between in intensity to outdoor and =20 indoor, meaning we could either do the 3-team rotation or just do lots =20= of subs. I know I won't play the whole time :-) [There will be beer nearby, yes?] On Oct 30, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Scott Brim wrote: > JINMEI Tatuya / =E7=A5=9E=E6=98=8E=E9=81=94=E5=93=89 allegedly wrote = on 10/30/2009 2:53 AM: >> I don't know >> what kind of shoes are allowed (at least use of "spike shoes" seems =20= >> to >> be prohibited). > > I'm too old to play with you "youngsters" but I used to, and cleats > would be a bad idea. There are shoes designed for it. Sneakers are > tolerable as long as they are not built for jogging, with a wide =20 > bottom > -- you'll catch an edge and hurt your ankle. > >> One possible concern: doodle indicates 14 people have shown interest >> (for Thursday). Is a single futsal court sufficient for this size of >> group? My general understanding is that a futsal game is normally >> played by 10 player in the field and since it's pretty hard players >> are in/out frequently - so I think 14(-ish) are actually a good size >> of group, but if anyone familiar with futsal thinks it's too >> optimistic please point it out. > > My favorite way of handling this was to split into three teams and > rotate through frequently. A particular team is on the field for two > rotations, and thus plays both the others. > > You can also play six on a side. > > Scott From jinmei@isc.org Fri Oct 30 14:29:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B6A83A68E7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:29:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hj8pmEpZPF7T for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mon.jinmei.org (mon.jinmei.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:36::162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7AA3A687A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jmb.jinmei.org (dhcp-wi-17.sql1.isc.org [204.152.189.17]) by mon.jinmei.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8C45133C37; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:30:07 -0700 Message-ID: From: JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= To: Fernando Gont In-Reply-To: <4AEAD7DC.6020904@gont.com.ar> References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAD7DC.6020904@gont.com.ar> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/22.1 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part III X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:29:52 -0000 At Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:11:08 -0200, Fernando Gont wrote: > With fourteen people (and probably a few more, that simply didn't fill > out the doodle form) it might be a good to get a full soccer court. For > playing 11-11 players in the field, or 9-9, or whatever. If not, maybe > we could have two futsal courts? If we need to cancel the futsal court we should do it by Nov 4 (Wed) to avoid penalty. Frankly, I'm pessimistic about reserving a full soccer court, but if many others want me to try it, I will. As for another futsal court, it cannot be an option, unfortunately: we are a "visitor", and visitors can only reserve a single court at one time. --- JINMEI, Tatuya Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. From eburger@standardstrack.com Sat Oct 31 15:11:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9AA3A6847 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:11:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.056 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.056 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.246, BAYES_05=-1.11, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pnTwYiQGVsaM for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gs19.inmotionhosting.com (gs19b.inmotionhosting.com [66.117.3.189]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C163A67DB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip68-100-199-8.dc.dc.cox.net ([68.100.199.8] helo=[192.168.15.199]) by gs19.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N4MB5-00056u-Na; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:12:07 -0700 Message-Id: <73BC3AED-C242-4FC7-B3FF-F0983A178AE3@standardstrack.com> From: Eric Burger To: =?UTF-8?Q?JINMEI_Tatuya_/_=E7=A5=9E=E6=98=8E=E9=81=94=E5=93=89?= In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:12:09 -0400 References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAD7DC.6020904@gont.com.ar> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs19.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part III X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:11:59 -0000 Any idea how booked the futsal courts are? My guess is if we have =20 extra people, but there are usually open courts, it would not be a =20 problem to get an ad hoc court. On Oct 30, 2009, at 5:30 PM, JINMEI Tatuya / =E7=A5=9E=E6=98=8E=E9=81=94=E5= =93=89 wrote: > At Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:11:08 -0200, > Fernando Gont wrote: > >> With fourteen people (and probably a few more, that simply didn't =20 >> fill >> out the doodle form) it might be a good to get a full soccer court. =20= >> For >> playing 11-11 players in the field, or 9-9, or whatever. If not, =20 >> maybe >> we could have two futsal courts? > > If we need to cancel the futsal court we should do it by Nov 4 (Wed) > to avoid penalty. Frankly, I'm pessimistic about reserving a full > soccer court, but if many others want me to try it, I will. As for > another futsal court, it cannot be an option, unfortunately: we are a > "visitor", and visitors can only reserve a single court at one time. > > --- > JINMEI, Tatuya > Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. From eburger@standardstrack.com Sat Oct 31 15:13:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A7D3A67DB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:13:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.923 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.923 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.675, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KG62r0IgZ3qz for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gs19.inmotionhosting.com (gs19b.inmotionhosting.com [66.117.3.189]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE753A67A3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip68-100-199-8.dc.dc.cox.net ([68.100.199.8] helo=[192.168.15.199]) by gs19.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N4MCP-0005F3-Bv for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:13:29 -0700 Message-Id: From: Eric Burger To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--452861885 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:13:32 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs19.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: [76attendees] Futsal Reminder X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:13:17 -0000 --Apple-Mail-4--452861885 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It looks like we are converging on Futsal on Thursday. Reminder: At this moment, there are 15 people in the doodle pool, but only 10 said, "Yes" to Futsal. If you did not say Yes to Futsal (by leaving a comment), please do so now. Thanks. --Apple-Mail-4--452861885 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It looks like we are converging on Futsal on Thursday.

Reminder: At this moment, there are 15 people in the doodle pool, but only 10 said, "Yes" to Futsal. If you did not say Yes to Futsal (by leaving a comment), please do so now.

Thanks.
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