From rvdp@rvdp.org Mon Nov 2 00:45:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE853A681E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:45:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.587 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.587 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FAKE_REPLY_C=2.012] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SLlF9RT10rbo for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:45:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from kirk.rvdp.org (kirk.rvdp.org [IPv6:2001:610:108:87::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501533A6805 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:45:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from kirk.rvdp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kirk.rvdp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA28jrTb090992; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:45:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rvdp@kirk.rvdp.org) Received: (from rvdp@localhost) by kirk.rvdp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nA28jppl090991; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:45:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rvdp) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:45:47 +0900 From: Ronald van der Pol To: Akira Kato Message-ID: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org>, "Guang.Lu@InterDigital.com" Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:45:38 -0000 --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 16:36:55 +0200, Akira Kato wrote: > If you will be arriving via an International fligt, the bus > may not change the schedule. When you miss the last bus departure, > there is no nice way to get your hotel. This happened to me last evening. My flight from Seoul was delayed by more than an hour and I arrived ar Hiroshima airport at 21:30. Fortunately, I still could get a bus. I got one to the bus center at 21:50. I noticed a few things that might be useful to others who are in a similar rush. So these are NOT complaints. I am enjoying the visit so far. The immigration, customs and baggage reclaim procedures went very quickly. I think I went through them in less than 15 minutes. You can buy a ticket in the bus with cash. Credit cards are not accepted in the bus. The bus ticket vending machines in the domestic terminal did not seem to accept credit cards. However, there is a shop right next to the vending machines that sells bus tickets and takes credit cards. There was bus personal at the bus stop that was helpful and spoke English. There did not seem to be an ATM at the domestic terminal. Avoid window seats in the bus. The heating is on the floor at the window side and it was probably at full capacity. It was uncomfortably hot in the bus, dispite that I was only wearing a T-shirt. Many public places seem to be quite warm (~ 25 Celsius), so be sure to pack some T-shirts. rvdp --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkrunDoACgkQQKieiDfP4G7wHACfUVkakWaCLAnHnICtPx0FUg34 VSQAnjvtsO9boQu5GE4ZcJ+TicW5R+jb =QF8c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6-- From kato@wide.ad.jp Mon Nov 2 01:40:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031C628C197 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 01:40:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o9-lTjJoVv04 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 01:40:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B2328C199 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 01:39:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (unknown [IPv6:2001:200:167:2ec1:21f:3bff:fec6:73bd]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0B3FA7FD9B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:39:43 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84F9E7D1D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:39:42 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:39:42 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091102.183942.250835924.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Akira Kato In-Reply-To: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> References: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:40:18 -0000 Dear Ronald, Thanks for your report. Probably you're #1 arrival before any local team members :-) The bus costs 1,300 JPY one-way. For those who will arrive at Hiroshima Airport from Incheon or Taipei, I'd suggest you to change your money into JPY at least 5,000 JPY prior to bording (Ticket vending machines in the domestic terminal accept 1000/5000/10000 JPY bills as well as coins) to minimize hasssle in Hiroshima Airport. As Ronald suggested, the ticket vending machines don't accept credit cards. > There did not seem to be an ATM at the domestic terminal. Actually there is an ATM machine in the post office at the departure level of the domestic terminal. But don't depent it; it is at the other end of the domestic terminal to the international termainal, it is available 9am to 8pm in weekday and 9am to 5pm in weekend, and operation of the ATM machine is very complicated. I talked several Taxi drivers in Hiroshima. While they understood "Crowneplaza Hotel", they preferred to refer the hotel as "ANA, or "Anna" as Ole suggested (see the following) http://www.yikes.com/~ole/store/Hiroshima/Hiroshima.html Anyway, have a safe trip to Hiroshima, please! -- Akira Kato From ben@nostrum.com Mon Nov 2 06:52:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA3A28C15B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 06:52:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iIDuKXRf3kj7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 06:52:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E0E28C13C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 06:52:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.16.1.62] ([12.97.44.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA2EqMLZ091641 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:52:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Ben Campbell In-Reply-To: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:52:30 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <62E166D9-A075-4163-92DE-00A76CA0F562@nostrum.com> References: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> To: Ronald van der Pol X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 12.97.44.66 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org>, "Guang.Lu@InterDigital.com" Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:52:07 -0000 If you connect through Narita on to Hiroshima, do you go through customs and immigration in Tokyo or in Hiroshima? On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:45 AM, Ronald van der Pol wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 16:36:55 +0200, Akira Kato wrote: > >> If you will be arriving via an International fligt, the bus >> may not change the schedule. When you miss the last bus departure, >> there is no nice way to get your hotel. > > This happened to me last evening. My flight from Seoul was delayed > by more than an hour and I arrived ar Hiroshima airport at 21:30. > Fortunately, I still could get a bus. I got one to the bus center > at 21:50. > > I noticed a few things that might be useful to others who are > in a similar rush. So these are NOT complaints. I am enjoying > the visit so far. > > The immigration, customs and baggage reclaim procedures went > very quickly. I think I went through them in less than 15 minutes. > > You can buy a ticket in the bus with cash. Credit cards are not > accepted in the bus. > > The bus ticket vending machines in the domestic terminal did not > seem to accept credit cards. However, there is a shop right next > to the vending machines that sells bus tickets and takes credit > cards. > > There was bus personal at the bus stop that was helpful and > spoke English. > > There did not seem to be an ATM at the domestic terminal. > > Avoid window seats in the bus. The heating is on the floor > at the window side and it was probably at full capacity. It > was uncomfortably hot in the bus, dispite that I was only > wearing a T-shirt. Many public places seem to be quite warm > (~ 25 Celsius), so be sure to pack some T-shirts. > > rvdp > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Mon Nov 2 07:25:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030173A6870 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:25:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.569 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.569 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.030, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ehgCY3cOxPgo for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:25:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-px0-f171.google.com (mail-px0-f171.google.com [209.85.216.171]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BE93A683D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:25:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by pxi1 with SMTP id 1so3697970pxi.32 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:25:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rIw7M6U0z+aSa4lAoGd1K3YowTiDEd/l93m4SmUZWZo=; b=EUTU64HXS+iCUTjEbWcti/RZJMQOBMwF08twVP48cQZOjsAeqgaoFc5hGMRhF6Cufo nJDjOxu+UJPF4B6Xl6AD9LbW7xrUjff3ZgFMqr95XRnezh5hVgKV8R1g92VB/pWauxex 8NAe31vrJFrwV7kpKGINS+i688bLWpT1SqFdU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=clmFQTJT4djRNnsBf/hFXw5oi6vs4RJsxgtnWzGJw+SJ3DveP6I7XXi1+j8Vx8GUD7 CoH9b6hc/zbsP8xTsxYWKJF9jmLTpItziCgEyI4Ym4Zsox8xNxNc66yfW3+rLXEnVyxf Y97vKCi50W6/WNFjkN9YVpjkJfceXQXpIPs1s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.172.19 with SMTP id u19mr266620rve.57.1257175553125; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:25:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:25:53 -0500 Message-ID: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> From: Barry Leiba To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: barryleiba@computer.org List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:25:37 -0000 Two questions: 1. Are there ATMs at Narita Airport, where I can score some yen? 2. Is there widely available GSM service in Japan (and in Hiroshima, in particular)? Barry From randy@psg.com Mon Nov 2 07:29:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458A63A683D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:29:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.586 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.586 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.013, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g2Wx5eJDV2UV for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:29:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F823A67FA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:29:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rmac.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1N4yrE-000JaE-0C; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:30:12 +0000 Received: from rmac.local.psg.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rmac.psg.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71602BDA3F6; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:30:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:30:11 -0500 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Barry Leiba In-Reply-To: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:29:55 -0000 > 1. Are there ATMs at Narita Airport, where I can score some yen? yes, the citibank atm on the arrivals floor > 2. Is there widely available GSM service in Japan (and in Hiroshima, > in particular)? yes, ntt, softbank, ... randy From wilmer@google.com Mon Nov 2 07:36:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 362BE28C15D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:36:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.488 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.488 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c5B73L2MRLyV for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:36:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out.google.com (smtp-out.google.com [216.239.45.13]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B8628C14A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:36:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from wpaz5.hot.corp.google.com (wpaz5.hot.corp.google.com [172.24.198.69]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id nA2Fb7j0029595 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:37:08 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; t=1257176228; bh=b/w3p/CMd6zPRcmYuLDyreGtsTE=; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID:Subject:From: To:Cc:Content-Type; b=Xjq3SnDduqBLLFF9dah/AjYivGcP9stzLAXH4ZjW0TuWiUlGbqh9ko4X+NHNgQ9DX x94xjVhNbT5xUFedV6SAg== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=beta; d=google.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to: cc:content-type:x-system-of-record; b=RqS68BpZaGtLnZcIla2nZUxdwQjK3u1hMYs8CNO2ZEjsfwlGUHyJnZJqWvaJ2Jrfv crFimF58Jke/S/zn893bA== Received: from bwz3 (bwz3.prod.google.com [10.188.26.3]) by wpaz5.hot.corp.google.com with ESMTP id nA2Fb4h7029413 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:37:05 -0800 Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so7076183bwz.36 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:37:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.48.144 with SMTP id r16mr4011529bkf.170.1257176223806; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:37:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:37:02 +0000 Message-ID: <7c31c8cc0911020737m4fcd4d69t9d133f7874ed2169@mail.gmail.com> From: Wilmer van der Gaast To: Randy Bush Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-System-Of-Record: true Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:36:50 -0000 2009/11/2 Randy Bush : >> 2. Is there widely available GSM service in Japan (and in Hiroshima, >> in particular)? > yes, ntt, softbank, ... > But as far as I understand it's not really GSM but 3G? Wilmer v/d Gaast. From ikob@ni.aist.go.jp Mon Nov 2 07:37:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031F33A6A40 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:37:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E-AiwoBNUXR5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.asahi-net.or.jp (mail2.asahi-net.or.jp [202.224.39.198]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3723A6806 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.17] (v108172.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp [124.155.108.172]) by mail2.asahi-net.or.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035867A964; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:37:44 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed From: Katsushi Kobayashi In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:37:43 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> To: Randy Bush X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:37:29 -0000 GSM is not available in Japan. You need 3G handset . On 2009/11/03, at 0:30, Randy Bush wrote: >> 1. Are there ATMs at Narita Airport, where I can score some yen? > > yes, the citibank atm on the arrivals floor > >> 2. Is there widely available GSM service in Japan (and in Hiroshima, >> in particular)? > > yes, ntt, softbank, ... > > randy > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From robert@ripe.net Mon Nov 2 07:39:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D123A6A37 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:39:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lb6HhcYcEwaR for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:39:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from postlady.ripe.net (postlady.ripe.net [193.0.19.65]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D9D3A6A0D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:39:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from herring.ripe.net ([193.0.1.203]) by postlady.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N4z0j-0002gD-Mb for 76attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:40:06 +0100 Received: from Kistel-Mac.local (cat.ripe.net [193.0.1.249]) by herring.ripe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CDB2F593 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:40:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AEEFD51.5050806@ripe.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:40:01 +0100 From: Robert Kisteleki Organization: RIPE NCC User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RIPE-Spam-Level: ---- X-RIPE-Signature: 72e00e6d7601fa19264e98abc238a274e321f519dbf01a219de0d15187d14407 Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:39:53 -0000 > GSM is not available in Japan. You need 3G handset . What happened to the "G"? :-/ Robert From scott.brim@gmail.com Mon Nov 2 07:41:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400073A6A43 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:41:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1zJC55Qsex3A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f183.google.com (mail-yw0-f183.google.com [209.85.211.183]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9A03A6A42 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywh13 with SMTP id 13so5401295ywh.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:41:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DRMJyp/vholjMB8R8Oe0k5NNJPJlnyHPCcsxin8JNnQ=; b=I+TopIq/UsAzDrIBrNeTbcGwglbRaxxJj5Ix/gZEq7Hc3Or5UhrU3Hwam59WyMStVO cTIbBT53U33BiLG+0enk4PO82As98vpIltde85ENxQTuXBEKUrBTd4HibkBqlQ7xoZRA pmj0oc+brCHzrpTgu2a+pyLP/ePt7yGiSocmM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=PaB2DRbyeXuZNfOLxVbCuGXxwhL1XuvklvrdULO1+pbyp6vBXAkHYgcuCPZ7zzdJPp TQmDxnXtVKAORK4guNqBsz9awmlili93n2nE43JQpeO9MzzA/45bG6D1myogQNGQlpis JMpEeKjNaGslhA1/1QYJax+ZZc+ZZoQ7Ra78o= Received: by 10.150.171.17 with SMTP id t17mr8101106ybe.303.1257176502827; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:41:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbrim-mbp.local (198-135-0-233.cisco.com [198.135.0.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm2143489ywg.34.2009.11.02.07.41.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:41:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AEEFDAF.20604@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:41:35 -0500 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wilmer van der Gaast References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> <7c31c8cc0911020737m4fcd4d69t9d133f7874ed2169@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7c31c8cc0911020737m4fcd4d69t9d133f7874ed2169@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:41:28 -0000 Wilmer van der Gaast allegedly wrote on 11/02/2009 10:37 AM: > 2009/11/2 Randy Bush : >>> 2. Is there widely available GSM service in Japan (and in Hiroshima, >>> in particular)? >> yes, ntt, softbank, ... >> > But as far as I understand it's not really GSM but 3G? in particular UMTS 2100 From scott.brim@gmail.com Mon Nov 2 07:42:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3C228C0E7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:42:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WBoS00X9eMeu for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:42:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f183.google.com (mail-yw0-f183.google.com [209.85.211.183]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A58828C16B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:42:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywh13 with SMTP id 13so5402342ywh.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:42:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mTekwbhvLaxS6fGEJoaH6YQEsske1jimCCEyvkJkIa0=; b=I8OK2N0jpib7SS+3I6F4NKoW59aCAwboNbL3HDXHI/moCvUyyk0liemzUNWQIHysFm 5BbjgvPm5Hah6PkTjbPZQaee5GCik1t4wFGIeFXGWFfTkMlDSsc91tE6K+iMYZa8NaOX OVxmYTcRqxST7DaRmmmrZmqe1Y2tjb0qOwhuQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=SNpMvHificq2U+DMqkdhcvpap7I75zOLLiiibJszVA6aEm9z7U8hFlswmnbft59ZuP vFYQsB+GfKVf22/t141f3eYoAshnawHcNEFHljqpYvm2OL3h43YxU1myLSl+QNqonvU1 r8KdP5M6NQRq6c5CFQhDhPf9wvVXohOWAKPN4= Received: by 10.150.118.21 with SMTP id q21mr8117637ybc.279.1257176562423; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:42:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbrim-mbp.local (198-135-0-233.cisco.com [198.135.0.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm2146570ywc.9.2009.11.02.07.42.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:42:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AEEFDEF.1000103@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:42:39 -0500 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Kisteleki References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEFD51.5050806@ripe.net> In-Reply-To: <4AEEFD51.5050806@ripe.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:42:28 -0000 Robert Kisteleki allegedly wrote on 11/02/2009 10:40 AM: > What happened to the "G"? :-/ Groupe? From kato@wide.ad.jp Mon Nov 2 07:42:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B0928C0E7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:42:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DHF7E67PHlJy for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:42:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0370E28C175 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:42:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (unknown [IPv6:2001:240:5b:1:21f:3bff:fec6:73bd]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3BEFF7FD9B; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:43:06 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5347E7D1D; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:43:05 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:43:05 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091103.004305.221193320.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: ben@nostrum.com From: Akira Kato In-Reply-To: <62E166D9-A075-4163-92DE-00A76CA0F562@nostrum.com> References: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> <62E166D9-A075-4163-92DE-00A76CA0F562@nostrum.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org, Guang.Lu@InterDigital.com Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:42:51 -0000 > If you connect through Narita on to Hiroshima, do you go through > customs and immigration in Tokyo or in Hiroshima? You need to clear custom and immegration process in Narita even if you take a direct daily flight to Hiroshima. -- Akira Kato From jan@johannesson.com Mon Nov 2 07:43:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC01628C11D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:43:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9IMTmQdFggKA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:43:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from vic20.blipp.com (cl-682.sto-01.se.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:16d8:ff00:2a9::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F52628C0E7 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:43:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from Jans-MacBook.local (unknown [192.36.182.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by vic20.blipp.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EFA0E3810B; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:43:33 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AEEFE25.80608@johannesson.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:43:33 +0100 From: Jan Johannesson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Brim References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> <7c31c8cc0911020737m4fcd4d69t9d133f7874ed2169@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEFDAF.20604@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4AEEFDAF.20604@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:43:19 -0000 Scott Brim skrev: > Wilmer van der Gaast allegedly wrote on 11/02/2009 10:37 AM: > >> 2009/11/2 Randy Bush : >> >>>> 2. Is there widely available GSM service in Japan (and in Hiroshima, >>>> in particular)? >>>> >>> yes, ntt, softbank, ... >>> >>> >> But as far as I understand it's not really GSM but 3G? >> > > in particular UMTS 2100 > No GSM, but UMTS (3G) My iPhone 3G is told to work according to my operator and friends. /Jan From kato@wide.ad.jp Mon Nov 2 07:48:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E8C3A6A1B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:48:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.95 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.95 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.650, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wYLL0lAMqWdF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C9B3A6A0D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (unknown [IPv6:2001:240:5b:1:21f:3bff:fec6:73bd]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7888D7FD9B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:49:10 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC88E7D1D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:49:10 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:49:10 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091103.004910.21572316.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Akira Kato In-Reply-To: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:48:52 -0000 > 1. Are there ATMs at Narita Airport, where I can score some yen? Yes, in 1F, there are several ATMs. In Terminal-1 and Terminal-2 arrival level, there is a few ATMs which accept international bank/credit cards, including Citibank ATMs (06:00-23:00). > 2. Is there widely available GSM service in Japan (and in Hiroshima, > in particular)? There is *NO* GSM coverage in Japan. -- Akira Kato From admin@dslcomputer.com Mon Nov 2 07:54:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D8A3A65A6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:54:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hd0hIej4hpJj for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:54:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F34C3A659C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:54:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip-72-167-97-127.ip.secureserver.net ([72.167.97.127] helo=ms.dslcomputer.com) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1N4zFE-000Flk-Se; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:55:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ms.dslcomputer.com) by ms.dslcomputer.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N4zFB-00042n-Dw; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:54:57 -0800 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 72.167.97.127 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1+bIzj4RbdD9LZdo3UAESoWR7BWqKL0uE8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:54:57 -0800 From: Harold Huggins To: Akira Kato Organization: DSL Computer In-Reply-To: <20091103.004910.21572316.kato@wide.ad.jp> References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> <20091103.004910.21572316.kato@wide.ad.jp> Message-ID: X-Sender: admin@dslcomputer.com User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.3-stable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:54:43 -0000 Why don't you do this over a Twitter account? On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:49:10 +0900 (JST), Akira Kato wrote: >> 1. Are there ATMs at Narita Airport, where I can score some yen? > > Yes, in 1F, there are several ATMs. > > In Terminal-1 and Terminal-2 arrival level, there is a few ATMs which > accept international bank/credit cards, including Citibank ATMs > (06:00-23:00). > >> 2. Is there widely available GSM service in Japan (and in Hiroshima, >> in particular)? > > There is *NO* GSM coverage in Japan. > > -- Akira Kato > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees -- Regards, Manager, Harold Huggins DSL Computer 13337 East South St., 416 Cerritos, Ca 90703 Phone: 973-854-4645 x 107 Fax: 973-854-4645 Email: admin@dslcomputer.com http://dslcomputer.com http://twitter.com/dslcomputer From agmalis@gmail.com Mon Nov 2 08:00:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AE83A6A48 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:00:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RWVgctaiyp9i for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f183.google.com (mail-yw0-f183.google.com [209.85.211.183]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151A83A6A3D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywh13 with SMTP id 13so5422389ywh.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:01:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=uMFDAFFEGVRDp7nphawHO0IYzrQCbjWS2C/sxZN7KIg=; b=srpjnEloIU+DWB1RQX54TbxYZIWcyT/oNli8smscP8DWw5YnrnjVDgrL0pHhrfhgYL VgbPJsFeqnly80IJdxAUJnuyixLnmDWe4hp7PLuEGLaEBzWS573V5uhHm62TVpRYJnGB NNPmKqJsjte/fXCorEa9TSpuPauDr4KDady+Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=qMqmWfanOdnT6SExCK3IG4tSHglPsvqgyAtivjxkuAAn5JtUu5FkHbi8jjvf/Lqskw Y13qGcVCsXmlGfBa5JkBWMGa94zC8Q1bgeiFagFRA4nhSPA1Nat9HpeCHce9dZBlnQwE pL1MdcTLGono1pGsB8jWcUWXfy+XGqVZuFRo8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.245.38 with SMTP id s38mr2743919anh.9.1257177661112; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:01:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091103.004910.21572316.kato@wide.ad.jp> References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> <20091103.004910.21572316.kato@wide.ad.jp> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:00:41 -0500 Message-ID: <8c99930d0911020800t6df53afbj5cbd6cd05c775957@mail.gmail.com> To: Akira Kato Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:00:47 -0000 >> 2. Is there widely available GSM service in Japan (and in Hiroshima, >> in particular)? > > There is *NO* GSM coverage in Japan. There is definitely GSM coverage in Tokyo and at Narita Airport - I was using it several weeks ago. I can't speak for Hiroshima, though. Cheers, Andy From jan@johannesson.com Mon Nov 2 08:03:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971B43A6A3D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:03:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QlQQWuut0kxX for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:03:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from vic20.blipp.com (cl-682.sto-01.se.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:16d8:ff00:2a9::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92443A67A5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:03:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from Jans-MacBook.local (unknown [192.36.182.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by vic20.blipp.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B671438121; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:03:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AEF02D4.5020900@johannesson.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:03:32 +0100 From: Jan Johannesson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andrew G. Malis" References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> <20091103.004910.21572316.kato@wide.ad.jp> <8c99930d0911020800t6df53afbj5cbd6cd05c775957@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8c99930d0911020800t6df53afbj5cbd6cd05c775957@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:03:15 -0000 Andrew G. Malis skrev: >>> 2. Is there widely available GSM service in Japan (and in Hiroshima, >>> in particular)? >>> >> There is *NO* GSM coverage in Japan. >> > > There is definitely GSM coverage in Tokyo and at Narita Airport - I > was using it several weeks ago. I can't speak for Hiroshima, though. > > femtocell GSM basestations might be allowed inside buildings like airports but there is normally no GSM in Japan. /Jan From gg55go@gmail.com Mon Nov 2 08:06:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E3A3A6A4A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:06:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MIJ1LIG-chjm for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:06:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B05F3A6A3D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:06:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so6491196bwz.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:06:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6SkGGWjiqhopoFcvxmR2M92VKFEEowMnn6nA/+gXmQo=; b=KVgHcNsboxaN9/KEgPl86TvW/xNj1x+o+LZ82Js7ClGafGeRKE+egM8ZnaABDOZU/H btfG/0b1X244t0Cx6s4mgLdiyLr9hi4pHxnH7K2k0I5Z3m51ngWip+HOdgmz7KU+QPgj 07FhqNHSYVU1sdraCL9D1v5rSJjsFK6FgNW5Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qJYHaXxhoMa1QU/C5sxM4n5zoO8gNRuWmhk3ny8gATmWFnXxQnAaeDcWYThVfK1ZzU s1Nq7qfZgLXKz2PohIv2PdoQtGoInNOOMfjqBkX/vtqCX4VBY6cWJ4Jt9SJTKUNtPo1/ Z2THiFnYbHjx1Oa2koNLLXVnWAjOnHc2Iam+I= Received: by 10.204.3.220 with SMTP id 28mr4073059bko.4.1257178006489; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:06:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.25? (192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z10sm8179084fka.3.2009.11.02.08.06.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:06:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AEF038A.1050105@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:06:34 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:08:17 -0000 Hey guys Welcome to Hiroshima! This site might be useful. http://www.ietf76.jp/archives.html (Although the search button does not work) And you guys could learn some more from those Japanese major mobile carriers. ntt docomo http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/ softbank http://mb.softbank.jp/en/ au http://www.au.kddi.com/english/ emobile http://www.emobile.jp/en/ willcom http://www.willcom-inc.com/en/ And take care of your voyage GO From: Barry Leiba Date: Tue Nov 03 2009 00:25:53 GMT+0900 > Two questions: > > 1. Are there ATMs at Narita Airport, where I can score some yen? > > 2. Is there widely available GSM service in Japan (and in Hiroshima, > in particular)? > > Barry From gg55go@gmail.com Mon Nov 2 08:19:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105A33A680B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:19:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.523 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.076, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mCXv7VXhE9zM for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:19:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194F63A67AF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so6504950bwz.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:19:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6SkGGWjiqhopoFcvxmR2M92VKFEEowMnn6nA/+gXmQo=; b=iLF9Q/kLJRm/vGtOjRGQa5G+arWLXO0Yt5b261fezRtQ/6EyHoKYzlwo+AkxUJ4kK7 ZVPNWfRAuhtKPk6Wsp5cI55GJ3BmM/IVFMsHjgn6exMjC8DCcXMT5nE6puHqJpG7xetS YEQ9r1zdg6NehHLEoyvLnr/gDXRT0F1J4lNXY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YcIlob3jv6pV5VRdJF8vMuWD9LcnAKKkGAIYFDzryR5EemkfdcKAUKGp3dz5BwTk1m 8dMVSJiqajCbWGR8OFM3cq6JjbboeoylDMFApPM97wCx2xNmuRBr1v95NqFRp/qOCpm5 xOZbLJjm+N0NFNKZSDmVLG6N5pbrpc9rYOyyU= Received: by 10.204.34.65 with SMTP id k1mr4163393bkd.111.1257178771049; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:19:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.25? (192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm6324311fks.50.2009.11.02.08.19.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:19:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AEF0689.2020203@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:19:21 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: barryleiba@computer.org References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:19:17 -0000 Hey guys Welcome to Hiroshima! This site might be useful. http://www.ietf76.jp/archives.html (Although the search button does not work) And you guys could learn some more from those Japanese major mobile carriers. ntt docomo http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/ softbank http://mb.softbank.jp/en/ au http://www.au.kddi.com/english/ emobile http://www.emobile.jp/en/ willcom http://www.willcom-inc.com/en/ And take care of your voyage GO From: Barry Leiba Date: Tue Nov 03 2009 00:25:53 GMT+0900 > Two questions: > > 1. Are there ATMs at Narita Airport, where I can score some yen? > > 2. Is there widely available GSM service in Japan (and in Hiroshima, > in particular)? > > Barry From ole@cisco.com Mon Nov 2 08:23:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6783A67AF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:23:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.584 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.584 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i4A8BKssdyMs for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:23:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92613A63D3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:23:05 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEADOW7kqrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbADGCYEaCAGIAwmNNYJTgWkE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,668,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="264890379" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2009 16:23:26 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA2GNPYM026179; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:23:25 GMT Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:22:48 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Wilmer van der Gaast In-Reply-To: <7c31c8cc0911020737m4fcd4d69t9d133f7874ed2169@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> <7c31c8cc0911020737m4fcd4d69t9d133f7874ed2169@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:23:06 -0000 http://www.yikes.com/~ole/store/Hiroshima/Essentials.html Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From egied.dekoster@belgacom.be Mon Nov 2 08:26:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2A228C15D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:26:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RmlnXOgcC97o for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:26:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from inmxcar01.belgacom.be (inmxcar01.belgacom.be [195.13.11.182]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5669E3A68A8 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:26:23 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,668,1249250400"; d="scan'208";a="63305071" Received: from unknown (HELO A03005.BGC.NET) ([10.120.129.161]) by outmxcar01.belgacom.be with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2009 17:26:42 +0100 X-TM-IMSS-Message-ID: <01d4066400005b22@belgacom.be> Received: from AE7112.BGC.NET ([45.219.2.51]) by belgacom.be ([10.120.129.161]) with ESMTP (TREND IMSS SMTP Service 7.0; TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,128bits,RC4-MD5) id 01d4066400005b22 ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:26:42 +0100 Received: from AE7101.BGC.NET ([45.216.90.112]) by AE7112.BGC.NET ([45.219.2.51]) with mapi; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:26:42 +0100 From: To: <76attendees@ietf.org> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:26:41 +0100 Thread-Topic: [76attendees] ATM and GSM Thread-Index: Acpb1bSyQE4npyxESbaiUqoP7hZnAAAAVvRw Message-ID: References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> <20091103.004910.21572316.kato@wide.ad.jp> <8c99930d0911020800t6df53afbj5cbd6cd05c775957@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8c99930d0911020800t6df53afbj5cbd6cd05c775957@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-8.0.0.1285-5.600.1016-16982.002 x-tm-as-result: No--38.000000-0.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: Yes x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:26:25 -0000 The=20GSM=20World=20webside=20gives=20you=20=20info=20on=20GSM/3G=20cover= age. Here=20is=20the=20link=20for=20Japan http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_jp.shtml According=20to=20the=20side=20:=20=20NTT=20and=20SOFTBANK=20=20are=20usin= g=202100=20MHz=20frequency=20band,=20=20eMOBILE=20is=20using=201700=20MHz= .=20=20=20=20=20Verify=20if=20you=20device=20is=20able=20to=20use=20one= =20of=20these=20frequencies. Verify=20also=20under=20"Roaming=20partners"=20=20that=20your=20mobile=20= network=20operator=20has=20roaming=20agreements=20with=20one=20of=20these= =203. I=20only=20verified=20the=20coverage=20map=20of=20NTT,=20and=20Hiroshima= =20is=20covered. Egied =20 -----Original=20Message----- From:=2076attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20[mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.o= rg]=20On=20Behalf=20Of=20Andrew=20G.=20Malis Sent:=2002=20November=202009=2017:01 To:=20Akira=20Kato Cc:=2076attendees@ietf.org Subject:=20Re:=20[76attendees]=20ATM=20and=20GSM >>=202.=20Is=20there=20widely=20available=20GSM=20service=20in=20Japan=20= (and=20in=20Hiroshima,=20 >>=20in=20particular)? > >=20There=20is=20*NO*=20GSM=20coverage=20in=20Japan. There=20is=20definitely=20GSM=20coverage=20in=20Tokyo=20and=20at=20Narita= =20Airport=20-=20I=20was=20using=20it=20several=20weeks=20ago.=20I=20can'= t=20speak=20for=20Hiroshima,=20though. Cheers, Andy _______________________________________________ 76attendees=20mailing=20list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees G=20coverage ****=20DISCLAIMER=20**** http://www.belgacom.be/maildisclaimer From ole@cisco.com Mon Nov 2 08:28:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08B828C181 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:28:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.584 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.584 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dyeGK1Zr2k0l for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:28:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com (sj-iport-2.cisco.com [171.71.176.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7C428C10B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:28:23 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAF+X7kqrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbADGC4EaCAGHfAiNPoJMCIFoBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,668,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="220318102" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2009 16:28:43 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA2GShH7003118; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:28:43 GMT Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:28:05 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Harold Huggins In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> <20091103.004910.21572316.kato@wide.ad.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:28:23 -0000 Because most of the people on here have no idea wnat twitter is good for and consider FaceBook as far as they'd go for social diversion. I have no idea how twitter would help in this case. Ole On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Harold Huggins wrote: > Why don't you do this over a Twitter account? > > From ole@cisco.com Mon Nov 2 08:31:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBFF3A68D0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:31:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.585 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.585 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NqPUpnXZtaAM for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:31:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5353A67A5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:31:37 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAIuY7kqrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbADGIIEaCAGIAwmNNoJTgWkE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,668,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="264895940" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2009 16:31:57 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA2GVv4g005099; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:31:57 GMT Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:31:19 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Andrew G. Malis" In-Reply-To: <8c99930d0911020800t6df53afbj5cbd6cd05c775957@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> <20091103.004910.21572316.kato@wide.ad.jp> <8c99930d0911020800t6df53afbj5cbd6cd05c775957@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:31:38 -0000 Nope. GSM operates on 850, 900, 1800 and 1900. 3G operates on 2100 with WCDMA aka UMTS. The latter is not called GSM, the former MAY be used for "3G" service in some backwards parts of the world such as the USA. I guess you did also not read: http://www.yikes.com/~ole/store/Hiroshima/Essentials.html Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > There is definitely GSM coverage in Tokyo and at Narita Airport - I > was using it several weeks ago. I can't speak for Hiroshima, though. > > Cheers, > Andy From tme@americafree.tv Mon Nov 2 08:36:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0973A6922 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:36:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.527 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.527 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.072, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qlrRXM6ayH-M for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:36:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.americafree.tv (rossini.americafree.tv [63.105.122.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BDE73A68D0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:36:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (rossini.americafree.tv [63.105.122.34]) by mail.americafree.tv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0843251E7B39; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:36:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <216C1597-1364-4CF5-BB93-9ED6BFE11827@americafree.tv> From: Marshall Eubanks To: Ole Jacobsen In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:36:22 -0500 References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> <20091103.004910.21572316.kato@wide.ad.jp> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:36:06 -0000 On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > Because most of the people on here have no idea wnat twitter is good > for and consider FaceBook as far as they'd go for social diversion. > > I have no idea how twitter would help in this case. > Let's use #IETF76 as the tag for IETF-76. I posted this from @TMEubanks : Essential info for #IETF76 in #Hiroshima : http://bit.ly/2Jb9Cv #IETF That shortened URL resolves to http://www.yikes.com/~ole/store/Hiroshima/Essentials.html Regards Marshall > Ole > > On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Harold Huggins wrote: > >> Why don't you do this over a Twitter account? >> >> > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From admin@dslcomputer.com Mon Nov 2 08:54:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D0A28C156 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:54:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LbQJve+g130e for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:54:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F6928C14A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:54:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip-72-167-97-127.ip.secureserver.net ([72.167.97.127] helo=ms.dslcomputer.com) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1N50BK-000Ews-6S; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:55:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ms.dslcomputer.com) by ms.dslcomputer.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N50BH-0007sv-MQ; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:54:59 -0800 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 72.167.97.127 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX18zLofUBMb/yz3usTzUn0LAmDDNeGeab0U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:54:59 -0800 From: Harold Huggins To: Marshall Eubanks Organization: DSL Computer In-Reply-To: <216C1597-1364-4CF5-BB93-9ED6BFE11827@americafree.tv> References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> <20091103.004910.21572316.kato@wide.ad.jp> <216C1597-1364-4CF5-BB93-9ED6BFE11827@americafree.tv> Message-ID: <979717f0e744d6544dda7caa70047e79@dslcomputer.com> X-Sender: admin@dslcomputer.com User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.3-stable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:54:44 -0000 Marshall – Sounds like a great idea for a new Twitter account (e.g. @IETF76). Are you in the position to create the actual Twitter account or a staff member from within the organization? PS: I signed up to you Twitter account (e.g., @TMEubanks or Twitter.com/TMEubanks)most impressive. Regards, Harold On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:36:22 -0500, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > >> Because most of the people on here have no idea wnat twitter is good >> for and consider FaceBook as far as they'd go for social diversion. >> >> I have no idea how twitter would help in this case. >> > > Let's use #IETF76 as the tag for IETF-76. I posted this > > from @TMEubanks : > > Essential info for #IETF76 in #Hiroshima : http://bit.ly/2Jb9Cv #IETF > > That shortened URL resolves to > > http://www.yikes.com/~ole/store/Hiroshima/Essentials.html > > Regards > Marshall > >> Ole >> >> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Harold Huggins wrote: >> >>> Why don't you do this over a Twitter account? >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> -- Regards, Manager, Harold Huggins DSL Computer 13337 East South St., 416 Cerritos, Ca 90703 Phone: 973-854-4645 x 107 Fax: 973-854-4645 Email: admin@dslcomputer.com http://dslcomputer.com http://twitter.com/dslcomputer From Sandra.Murphy@cobham.com Mon Nov 2 09:36:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543363A6859 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:36:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.250, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y7UHKuUa5K+N for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:36:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from M4.sparta.com (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198B03A6783 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:36:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from Beta5.sparta.com (beta5.sparta.com [157.185.63.21]) by M4.sparta.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id nA2HaVhR019245 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:36:31 -0600 Received: from nemo.columbia.ads.sparta.com (nemo.columbia.sparta.com [157.185.80.75]) by Beta5.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA2HaVfB006133 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:36:31 -0600 Received: from SANDYM-LT.columbia.ads.sparta.com ([157.185.81.77]) by nemo.columbia.ads.sparta.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:36:31 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:36:31 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Sandra Murphy To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: X-X-Sender: sandy@nemo.columbia.sparta.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2009 17:36:31.0274 (UTC) FILETIME=[03C9C8A0:01CA5BE3] Subject: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:36:13 -0000 >Welcome to Hiroshima! > >Hey guys > > >This site might be useful. > >http://www.ietf76.jp/archives.html Thank you for all the info you have provided. You have done a wonderful job. I am taking one of the recommended itineraries not yet discussed. I am traveling to Kansai Airport and by train from there to Hiroshima. Can anyone way whether I will need cash to purchase the train ticket in Kansai Airport? I thought I saw suggestions on some sites that train ticket purchases need cash, which seems odd. How can I get from the Hiroshima Airport to my hotel? I'm staying at the Oriental Hotel, which does not seem to be within walking distance with luggage - correct? I might arrive after sunset. I found the web site http://www.kansai-airport.or.jp/en/service/money/index.html with a list of banks that have ATM machines at the Kansai Airport. A few, not all, are available 24 hrs a day. My apologies if this information has already been posted somewhere. --Sandy P.S. On the web site http://www.ietf76.jp/general/atm/#atm-postoffice, the atm10.png graphic did not display for me. Many thanks for the pictures translating the important buttons (backspace, confirm, etc.). P.S. The Post Office web site about use of international cards in post office ATM machines does not seem to be completely functional - the text seems to refer to things not displayed, like handling charges, hours when not available, etc. From scott.brim@gmail.com Mon Nov 2 09:50:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC66D3A68D6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:50:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oMKcV8uVjIFL for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:50:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f192.google.com (mail-yx0-f192.google.com [209.85.210.192]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B091E3A68CD for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:50:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so5554977yxe.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:51:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rZSH/Itn5bDy5Ssv6ZpNMlxqFZ4v4j1ArcQoC+JqhS4=; b=e03UsLhEE0R21dKMDuekB8l4Viq2noREQT1Xy7LI2Axm/lNC92Q5zIReP9gaGv5qYh T1E3Dt0EVgPXGQHrywlQp6ZeYNuWzql+KdJ73La4r1nFCJZ0rnMYemtnn9hS/Yo307Ps twoGooM933q0fKcUrwj4Sg86hkEp7JeQkbngg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Jpx+DwXxUX1HeM3Yhw10b2nebXbc2s4p+mPuOr4XKeeo4uFsZAELXo0ZkWQBQ3Rjqj S7wvhDa2kAYfsYeWT1rEZg7qkavvWgUAEsXVCbh055nP9TaerGDZB71swYNvrPJiG9A/ +7qEAeefVmDQzuSDV/7cY1pBTwUYlw33ECCEU= Received: by 10.91.105.3 with SMTP id h3mr9247757agm.6.1257184263848; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:51:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbrim-mbp.local (198-135-0-233.cisco.com [198.135.0.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm2630507yxg.66.2009.11.02.09.51.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:51:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AEF1C04.5040909@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:51:00 -0500 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sandra Murphy References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:50:56 -0000 Sandra Murphy allegedly wrote on 11/02/2009 12:36 PM: >> http://www.ietf76.jp/archives.html > > Thank you for all the info you have provided. You have done a wonderful > job. > > I am taking one of the recommended itineraries not yet discussed. I am > traveling to Kansai Airport and by train from there to Hiroshima. > > Can anyone way whether I will need cash to purchase the train ticket in > Kansai Airport? I thought I saw suggestions on some sites that train > ticket purchases need cash, which seems odd. http://www.ietf76.jp/2009/07/from_kansai_airport.html > > How can I get from the Hiroshima Airport to my hotel? I'm staying at > the Oriental Hotel, which does not seem to be within walking distance > with luggage - correct? I might arrive after sunset. I assume you mean Hiroshima train station? http://www.ietf76.jp/2009/07/from_jr_hiroshima_station.html swb From Sandra.Murphy@cobham.com Mon Nov 2 10:10:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F7D3A6A60 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:10:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.471 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.471 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.128, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AcyIJrnE6ZyT for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:10:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from M4.sparta.com (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612AC3A6878 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:10:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from Beta5.sparta.com (beta5.sparta.com [157.185.63.21]) by M4.sparta.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id nA2IAjTq019826 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:10:45 -0600 Received: from nemo.columbia.ads.sparta.com (nemo.columbia.sparta.com [157.185.80.75]) by Beta5.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA2IAj2e007685 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:10:45 -0600 Received: from SANDYM-LT.columbia.ads.sparta.com ([157.185.81.77]) by nemo.columbia.ads.sparta.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:10:45 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:10:45 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Sandra Murphy To: 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: X-X-Sender: sandy@nemo.columbia.sparta.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2009 18:10:45.0569 (UTC) FILETIME=[CC3E5310:01CA5BE7] Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:10:27 -0000 On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Sandra Murphy wrote: >> Welcome to Hiroshima! >> >> Hey guys >> >> >> This site might be useful. >> >> http://www.ietf76.jp/archives.html > > Thank you for all the info you have provided. You have done a wonderful job. > > I am taking one of the recommended itineraries not yet discussed. I am > traveling to Kansai Airport and by train from there to Hiroshima. > > Can anyone way whether I will need cash to purchase the train ticket in > Kansai Airport? I thought I saw suggestions on some sites that train ticket > purchases need cash, which seems odd. > > How can I get from the Hiroshima Airport to my hotel? I'm staying at the > Oriental Hotel, which does not seem to be within walking distance with > luggage - correct? I might arrive after sunset. Sorry - meant Hiroshima train station, not airport. Got it right in the subject line, hope I haven't now totally confused the thread. --Sandy > > I found the web site > http://www.kansai-airport.or.jp/en/service/money/index.html with a list of > banks that have ATM machines at the Kansai Airport. A few, not all, are > available 24 hrs a day. > > My apologies if this information has already been posted somewhere. > > --Sandy > > P.S. On the web site http://www.ietf76.jp/general/atm/#atm-postoffice, the > atm10.png graphic did not display for me. Many thanks for the pictures > translating the important buttons (backspace, confirm, etc.). > > P.S. The Post Office web site about use of international cards in post > office ATM machines does not seem to be completely functional - the text > seems to refer to things not displayed, like handling charges, hours when not > available, etc. > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From stpeter@stpeter.im Mon Nov 2 10:14:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D753A6A6D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:14:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.583 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.583 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.016, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8R1sK5W7X0BP for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:14:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF47A3A6A62 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:14:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-64-101-72-247.cisco.com (dhcp-64-101-72-247.cisco.com [64.101.72.247]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6A5FD40D12; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:14:44 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AEF2193.5020707@stpeter.im> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:14:43 -0700 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sandra Murphy References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:14:26 -0000 On 11/2/09 10:36 AM, Sandra Murphy wrote: > I am taking one of the recommended itineraries not yet discussed. I am > traveling to Kansai Airport and by train from there to Hiroshima. I'll be travelling in that manner, too. If I find any clues I'll post them here. > Can anyone way whether I will need cash to purchase the train ticket in > Kansai Airport? I thought I saw suggestions on some sites that train > ticket purchases need cash, which seems odd. As I understand it, you need to take a train from Kansai airport to Osaka, then a train from Osaka to Hiroshima. It's not yet clear to me if cash payment is required. /psa From Sandra.Murphy@cobham.com Mon Nov 2 10:18:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B223A6878 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:18:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.479 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.479 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.120, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M7izJPmZfn-h for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:18:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from M4.sparta.com (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A964E3A63EB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:18:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from Beta5.sparta.com (beta5.sparta.com [157.185.63.21]) by M4.sparta.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id nA2IIqfJ019982; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:18:53 -0600 Received: from nemo.columbia.ads.sparta.com (nemo.columbia.sparta.com [157.185.80.75]) by Beta5.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA2IIqt5008087; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:18:52 -0600 Received: from SANDYM-LT.columbia.ads.sparta.com ([157.185.81.77]) by nemo.columbia.ads.sparta.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:18:52 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:18:52 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Sandra Murphy To: Peter Saint-Andre In-Reply-To: <4AEF2193.5020707@stpeter.im> Message-ID: References: <4AEF2193.5020707@stpeter.im> X-X-Sender: sandy@nemo.columbia.sparta.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2009 18:18:52.0556 (UTC) FILETIME=[EE82A4C0:01CA5BE8] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:18:34 -0000 On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 11/2/09 10:36 AM, Sandra Murphy wrote: > >> I am taking one of the recommended itineraries not yet discussed. I am >> traveling to Kansai Airport and by train from there to Hiroshima. > > I'll be travelling in that manner, too. If I find any clues I'll post > them here. > >> Can anyone way whether I will need cash to purchase the train ticket in >> Kansai Airport? I thought I saw suggestions on some sites that train >> ticket purchases need cash, which seems odd. > > As I understand it, you need to take a train from Kansai airport to > Osaka, then a train from Osaka to Hiroshima. It's not yet clear to me if > cash payment is required. The directions implied to me that one made one purchase at the airport for both tickets (or a combined ticket). If it is two purchases, then the question needs an answer for each purchase. --Sandy > > /psa > From scott.brim@gmail.com Mon Nov 2 10:29:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8D83A6837 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:29:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id krCdFZP1DStY for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:29:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qy0-f203.google.com (mail-qy0-f203.google.com [209.85.221.203]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449133A63D3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:29:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by qyk41 with SMTP id 41so2674825qyk.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:30:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=02DFlZMl2s3x5XQAVYGZuTdrsz67wkhIR0TvCZnIaR4=; b=S6gqiQK0+CJsNodSHkXO38ipGdcsY5QL1MU69tyAT4KbGPYuPdzvlEaLEuRlgWRYyA VygWs/A83pK+2Cc4bmCmmX3UIo4LUmvHF3rTX8vNj/XJjmUJAv2M1jAr7tDnTERFfNO2 lwMFYWUX8wXGHLz1SKDyAOGDPIDy/5x1UYSmI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=slqsxV359xtl1VE7bXza/booJy5B9gv88RTth7hBBC8nyafynX/WJ+UGUk47Lsz5EV w1XNEYSear7da+ie1l1zRkiaYxC7HLz93yG0qnJEqr0vkNtV6liYUxnsStBwVkE141ED sDhtEOZyGO6j9dCjVbBw8jVpyel6dLOtpP2NU= Received: by 10.224.58.166 with SMTP id g38mr3066643qah.32.1257186600923; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:30:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbrim-mbp.local (198-135-0-233.cisco.com [198.135.0.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm685287qyk.12.2009.11.02.10.29.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:29:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AEF2525.7080804@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:29:57 -0500 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sandra Murphy References: <4AEF2193.5020707@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:29:45 -0000 Sandra Murphy allegedly wrote on 11/02/2009 1:18 PM: > The directions implied to me that one made one purchase at the airport > for both tickets (or a combined ticket). Buy all your tickets together at the airport. Buying them together you get a discount on the surcharge. From ron.even.tlv@gmail.com Mon Nov 2 12:07:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7355F3A6833 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:07:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cA-xgBdb+nva for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:07:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.184]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3DE3A6782 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:07:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id e6so665883gvc.15 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:07:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=noUi5MpfrITGKMNfAUFw1MdXpYv9CSwOA13rnfDNtTI=; b=QmXcc4pPXf8Yaof6K5XDeI5HP6D4/JNPJJPTEqlnsd+3k7U0EajFxzLLv4HjzgPiN+ WYtdb7710+LKUug1FlHev6tG4WJyYv5DlmO9lkis3sN4tup83abjBF1XJgxAOQ3gHD2t 7+h98fgY1T7LSYnQ12fEhs2vpsIC1kh1i/fUY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; b=AtLZkofgRs9zjX5/Lru5sEdOxX7AKvX4/d08y24scVsAv2lMT8jkXIFTURWcC4dyT5 JAUharrCgygG7I6G9S6e7ExwSNy8RlBJPvGWHxfMLXizPWDWto0rjJl72Ooim4bKnFKy 6+qXYGc0+mYZX3cq0hDbfsSkbg9AlxwanuurU= Received: by 10.102.226.17 with SMTP id y17mr2304578mug.67.1257192455404; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:07:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from windows8d787f9 (bzq-79-183-11-49.red.bezeqint.net [79.183.11.49]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y2sm14306807mug.19.2009.11.02.12.07.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:07:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Roni Even" To: "'Sandra Murphy'" , <76attendees@ietf.org> References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:06:34 +0200 Message-ID: <4aef3c06.02e2660a.58dd.698c@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acpb4w+LmUjoF3cpSRmeDZm4XOweZgAFN3Qw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:07:21 -0000 Hi, For the train look at http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:7iNagBLXN2QJ:www.hiwc.biz/files/Final_T rains_for_Dummies_.doc+train+ticket+from+kansai+to+hiroshima&cd=1&hl=en&ct=c lnk Roni Even > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sandra Murphy > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:37 PM > To: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to > hotel > > >Welcome to Hiroshima! > > > >Hey guys > > > > > >This site might be useful. > > > >http://www.ietf76.jp/archives.html > > Thank you for all the info you have provided. You have done a > wonderful > job. > > I am taking one of the recommended itineraries not yet discussed. I am > traveling to Kansai Airport and by train from there to Hiroshima. > > Can anyone way whether I will need cash to purchase the train ticket in > Kansai Airport? I thought I saw suggestions on some sites that train > ticket purchases need cash, which seems odd. > > How can I get from the Hiroshima Airport to my hotel? I'm staying at > the > Oriental Hotel, which does not seem to be within walking distance with > luggage - correct? I might arrive after sunset. > > I found the web site > http://www.kansai-airport.or.jp/en/service/money/index.html with a list > of > banks that have ATM machines at the Kansai Airport. A few, not all, > are > available 24 hrs a day. > > My apologies if this information has already been posted somewhere. > > --Sandy > > P.S. On the web site http://www.ietf76.jp/general/atm/#atm-postoffice, > the atm10.png graphic did not display for me. Many thanks for the > pictures translating the important buttons (backspace, confirm, etc.). > > P.S. The Post Office web site about use of international cards in post > office ATM machines does not seem to be completely functional - the > text > seems to refer to things not displayed, like handling charges, hours > when > not available, etc. > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com Mon Nov 2 12:13:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A8E3A68FC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:13:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.318 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.318 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.281, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QT4oXGC3msOJ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:13:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-px0-f171.google.com (mail-px0-f171.google.com [209.85.216.171]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492683A6807 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:13:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by pxi1 with SMTP id 1so3890630pxi.32 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:13:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CZmOaGGKxerHqppzD5AV2p4GKxOZensJeWaeMxiRZUo=; b=q6oSH8O9VZKTajqz2qu868wTthWcZavFAlXMMxHZ78mQk2+U9g5lkOW2/EOoiW5YeD zMD5Y+RRZpGRJ99ksTCa/0tcvj8JG8bNnm4O9GccHZxD0Y/RrKkMAPgwdL1iywBiZ2i1 OmuWZvw6isTpKkSFUBSZ+0S6Cjw/esSN1XKWE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=PiOYokFq1HJYFWaoCacBqhi2QXzM9W/KOv1QEZezUgO08ZhNkQk9siH/co3DTAv1gh BN2oobdTA7YkUIvZ5MZytuMNOASe9lEAIZHQn1X8ChnNrGPS9YBGc4s5fTW96x8yhVY/ 3sOYzlReMOvVrCAjUI6w3f+3Yk1vxba431FtM= Received: by 10.114.7.39 with SMTP id 39mr9343714wag.188.1257192804836; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:13:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?130.216.38.124? (stf-brian.sfac.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.38.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm438532pzk.2.2009.11.02.12.13.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:13:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AEF3D59.2060406@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:13:13 +1300 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sandra Murphy References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:13:08 -0000 With absolutely no guarantees since this is the result of a Google search and it is several years old: http://www.hiwc.biz/files/Final_Trains_for_Dummies_.doc This takes you through the whole journey from Kansai arrivals to Hiroshima station. Regards Brian Carpenter On 2009-11-03 06:36, Sandra Murphy wrote: >> Welcome to Hiroshima! >> >> Hey guys >> >> >> This site might be useful. >> >> http://www.ietf76.jp/archives.html > > Thank you for all the info you have provided. You have done a wonderful > job. > > I am taking one of the recommended itineraries not yet discussed. I am > traveling to Kansai Airport and by train from there to Hiroshima. > > Can anyone way whether I will need cash to purchase the train ticket in > Kansai Airport? I thought I saw suggestions on some sites that train > ticket purchases need cash, which seems odd. > > How can I get from the Hiroshima Airport to my hotel? I'm staying at > the Oriental Hotel, which does not seem to be within walking distance > with luggage - correct? I might arrive after sunset. > > I found the web site > http://www.kansai-airport.or.jp/en/service/money/index.html with a list > of banks that have ATM machines at the Kansai Airport. A few, not all, > are available 24 hrs a day. > > My apologies if this information has already been posted somewhere. > > --Sandy > > P.S. On the web site http://www.ietf76.jp/general/atm/#atm-postoffice, > the atm10.png graphic did not display for me. Many thanks for the > pictures translating the important buttons (backspace, confirm, etc.). > > P.S. The Post Office web site about use of international cards in post > office ATM machines does not seem to be completely functional - the text > seems to refer to things not displayed, like handling charges, hours > when not available, etc. > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From Sandra.Murphy@cobham.com Mon Nov 2 12:25:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA763A692B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:25:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.421 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.421 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.178, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xhGthYWu1uP7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:25:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from M4.sparta.com (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2603A68E9 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:25:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from Beta5.sparta.com (beta5.sparta.com [157.185.63.21]) by M4.sparta.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id nA2KQDnl022680; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:26:13 -0600 Received: from nemo.columbia.ads.sparta.com (nemo.columbia.sparta.com [157.185.80.75]) by Beta5.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA2KQDXd014929; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:26:13 -0600 Received: from SANDYM-LT.columbia.ads.sparta.com ([157.185.81.77]) by nemo.columbia.ads.sparta.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:26:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:26:12 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Sandra Murphy To: Brian E Carpenter In-Reply-To: <4AEF3D59.2060406@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4AEF3D59.2060406@gmail.com> X-X-Sender: sandy@nemo.columbia.sparta.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2009 20:26:13.0027 (UTC) FILETIME=[B895FF30:01CA5BFA] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:25:55 -0000 Thanks to both who posted a link to this document. For others, this says that the ticket office takes credit cards. I found the following on the same web site (Hiroshima International Women's Club) that appears to have some useful information. http://www.hiwc.biz/files/Newcomers_Guide.doc (I did not find a link from the home page to the train info, so I can't comment on its freshness.) --Sandy On Tue, 3 Nov 2009, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > With absolutely no guarantees since this is the result of a > Google search and it is several years old: > > http://www.hiwc.biz/files/Final_Trains_for_Dummies_.doc > > This takes you through the whole journey from Kansai > arrivals to Hiroshima station. > > Regards > Brian Carpenter > > On 2009-11-03 06:36, Sandra Murphy wrote: >>> Welcome to Hiroshima! >>> >>> Hey guys >>> >>> >>> This site might be useful. >>> >>> http://www.ietf76.jp/archives.html >> >> Thank you for all the info you have provided. You have done a wonderful >> job. >> >> I am taking one of the recommended itineraries not yet discussed. I am >> traveling to Kansai Airport and by train from there to Hiroshima. >> >> Can anyone way whether I will need cash to purchase the train ticket in >> Kansai Airport? I thought I saw suggestions on some sites that train >> ticket purchases need cash, which seems odd. >> >> How can I get from the Hiroshima Airport to my hotel? I'm staying at >> the Oriental Hotel, which does not seem to be within walking distance >> with luggage - correct? I might arrive after sunset. >> >> I found the web site >> http://www.kansai-airport.or.jp/en/service/money/index.html with a list >> of banks that have ATM machines at the Kansai Airport. A few, not all, >> are available 24 hrs a day. >> >> My apologies if this information has already been posted somewhere. >> >> --Sandy >> >> P.S. On the web site http://www.ietf76.jp/general/atm/#atm-postoffice, >> the atm10.png graphic did not display for me. Many thanks for the >> pictures translating the important buttons (backspace, confirm, etc.). >> >> P.S. The Post Office web site about use of international cards in post >> office ATM machines does not seem to be completely functional - the text >> seems to refer to things not displayed, like handling charges, hours >> when not available, etc. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> > From Sandra.Murphy@cobham.com Mon Nov 2 12:31:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97633A68FC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:31:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.428 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.428 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.171, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 91GKZOmwe7RF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:31:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from M4.sparta.com (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11D83A686C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:31:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from Beta5.sparta.com (beta5.sparta.com [157.185.63.21]) by M4.sparta.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id nA2KVPw5022819 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:31:25 -0600 Received: from nemo.columbia.ads.sparta.com (nemo.columbia.sparta.com [157.185.80.75]) by Beta5.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA2KVPgH015205 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:31:25 -0600 Received: from SANDYM-LT.columbia.ads.sparta.com ([157.185.81.77]) by nemo.columbia.ads.sparta.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:31:25 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:31:25 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Sandra Murphy To: 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: X-X-Sender: sandy@nemo.columbia.sparta.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2009 20:31:25.0279 (UTC) FILETIME=[72B3DEF0:01CA5BFB] Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:31:07 -0000 By the same airport/train station confusion, I overlooked the information on the ietf76.jp site regarding travel from the Hiroshima *train* station to the various hotels. Again, thanks to our hosts. http://www.ietf76.jp/2009/07/from_jr_hiroshima_station.html --Sandy On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Sandra Murphy wrote: > > > On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Sandra Murphy wrote: > >>> Welcome to Hiroshima! >>> >>> Hey guys >>> >>> >>> This site might be useful. >>> >>> http://www.ietf76.jp/archives.html >> >> Thank you for all the info you have provided. You have done a wonderful >> job. >> >> I am taking one of the recommended itineraries not yet discussed. I am >> traveling to Kansai Airport and by train from there to Hiroshima. >> >> Can anyone way whether I will need cash to purchase the train ticket in >> Kansai Airport? I thought I saw suggestions on some sites that train >> ticket purchases need cash, which seems odd. >> >> How can I get from the Hiroshima Airport to my hotel? I'm staying at the >> Oriental Hotel, which does not seem to be within walking distance with >> luggage - correct? I might arrive after sunset. > > Sorry - meant Hiroshima train station, not airport. > > Got it right in the subject line, hope I haven't now totally confused the > thread. > > --Sandy > >> >> I found the web site >> http://www.kansai-airport.or.jp/en/service/money/index.html with a list of >> banks that have ATM machines at the Kansai Airport. A few, not all, are >> available 24 hrs a day. >> >> My apologies if this information has already been posted somewhere. >> >> --Sandy >> >> P.S. On the web site http://www.ietf76.jp/general/atm/#atm-postoffice, the >> atm10.png graphic did not display for me. Many thanks for the pictures >> translating the important buttons (backspace, confirm, etc.). >> >> P.S. The Post Office web site about use of international cards in post >> office ATM machines does not seem to be completely functional - the text >> seems to refer to things not displayed, like handling charges, hours when >> not available, etc. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From keith@internetnz.net.nz Mon Nov 2 14:00:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6747628C0F8 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:00:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7vIcnI3eUd-9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from gutentight.internetnz.net.nz (gutentight.internetnz.net.nz [202.46.176.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9521C28C102 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:59:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gutentight.internetnz.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C5095A10 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:00:05 +1300 (NZDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at internetnz.net.nz Received: from gutentight.internetnz.net.nz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gutentight.internetnz.net.nz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AErg2s+Rpb2K for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:59:54 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from [10.10.10.25] (s229090.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp [220.157.229.90]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by gutentight.internetnz.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18AC95A0E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:59:53 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <4AEF5654.4070109@internetnz.net.nz> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:59:48 +1300 From: Keith Davidson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> References: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> <62E166D9-A075-4163-92DE-00A76CA0F562@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <62E166D9-A075-4163-92DE-00A76CA0F562@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:00:02 -0000 Always you clear customs at the point of entry into the country. I didn't think you could connect from Narita to Hiroshima for a domestic flight, and that flights from Tokyo to Hiroshima depart from Haneda airport, which is about 1 hour by train away from Narita airport? Keith Davidson Ben Campbell wrote: > If you connect through Narita on to Hiroshima, do you go through customs > and immigration in Tokyo or in Hiroshima? > > On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:45 AM, Ronald van der Pol wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 16:36:55 +0200, Akira Kato wrote: >> >>> If you will be arriving via an International fligt, the bus >>> may not change the schedule. When you miss the last bus departure, >>> there is no nice way to get your hotel. >> >> This happened to me last evening. My flight from Seoul was delayed >> by more than an hour and I arrived ar Hiroshima airport at 21:30. >> Fortunately, I still could get a bus. I got one to the bus center >> at 21:50. >> >> I noticed a few things that might be useful to others who are >> in a similar rush. So these are NOT complaints. I am enjoying >> the visit so far. >> >> The immigration, customs and baggage reclaim procedures went >> very quickly. I think I went through them in less than 15 minutes. >> >> You can buy a ticket in the bus with cash. Credit cards are not >> accepted in the bus. >> >> The bus ticket vending machines in the domestic terminal did not >> seem to accept credit cards. However, there is a shop right next >> to the vending machines that sells bus tickets and takes credit >> cards. >> >> There was bus personal at the bus stop that was helpful and >> spoke English. >> >> There did not seem to be an ATM at the domestic terminal. >> >> Avoid window seats in the bus. The heating is on the floor >> at the window side and it was probably at full capacity. It >> was uncomfortably hot in the bus, dispite that I was only >> wearing a T-shirt. Many public places seem to be quite warm >> (~ 25 Celsius), so be sure to pack some T-shirts. >> >> rvdp >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From keith@internetnz.net.nz Mon Nov 2 14:04:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994143A6869 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:04:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GBoW6Q2wXiMA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:04:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from gutentight.internetnz.net.nz (gutentight.internetnz.net.nz [202.46.176.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2E33A6831 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:04:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gutentight.internetnz.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0EE95A10 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:05:11 +1300 (NZDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at internetnz.net.nz Received: from gutentight.internetnz.net.nz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gutentight.internetnz.net.nz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s3g449dtsGTr for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:05:04 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from [10.10.10.25] (s229090.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp [220.157.229.90]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by gutentight.internetnz.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B9995A0E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:05:03 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <4AEF578A.8070203@internetnz.net.nz> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:04:58 +1300 From: Keith Davidson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> <7c31c8cc0911020737m4fcd4d69t9d133f7874ed2169@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7c31c8cc0911020737m4fcd4d69t9d133f7874ed2169@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:04:53 -0000 Wilmer van der Gaast wrote: > 2009/11/2 Randy Bush : >>> 2. Is there widely available GSM service in Japan (and in Hiroshima, >>> in particular)? >> yes, ntt, softbank, ... >> > But as far as I understand it's not really GSM but 3G? Correct. NTT Docomo and Softbank fight with eachother to provide my iphone connection, since arrival in Narita on Saturday, and while I am in Kyoto en route to Hiroshima. Seems to be several wifi providers available for data too (which could be preferable to $30/Meg for regular mobile roaming, and Docomo had consistent wifi offered from Narita to Kyoto on the Nozomi, and here in Kyoto. Keith Davidson From rdv@sfc.wide.ad.jp Mon Nov 2 14:06:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FED828C121 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:06:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.504 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.504 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n4jjcSs7WbeP for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:06:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8653A6831 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:06:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from rdvmac.fletsphone (63.25.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp [125.30.25.63]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 538C64C055 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:06:36 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <5FF61A24-665C-471B-8311-F98D7AA3078A@sfc.wide.ad.jp> From: Rodney Van Meter To: 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <4AEEFD51.5050806@ripe.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-47--280476725; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:06:37 +0900 References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEFD51.5050806@ripe.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:06:21 -0000 --Apple-Mail-47--280476725 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As a point of reference, American credit cards still do NOT work in many locations in Japan, even at some places with Visa and MasterCard logos (I am told that the U.S. banks update their security features at higher than the Nyquist frequency, and the Japanese banks don't keep up.) There are a few places where they DO work: notably, the ATMs in Japanese Post Offices. Most restaurants and other businesses in Japan still operate on a yen cash basis. (Unlike some other places, you will find ZERO businesses that will actually take dollars for goods or services.) At Narita Airport, you can change U.S. dollars for yen at booths outside customs. The rate there is generally as good as you will find anywhere. It is better for traveler's checks than cash, and MUCH better than the rates at U.S. airports, which are often usurious. I believe the rate for euros is less favorable than dollars. As to cell phones, as others have said, Japan is 3G W-CDMA only, no GSM, no CDMA-2000. 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76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A80C28C1B0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:10:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SrjF+SnaU++2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:10:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtpout011.mac.com (asmtpout011.mac.com [17.148.16.86]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40BC28C13C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:10:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.2.101] (pool-71-178-139-225.washdc.east.verizon.net [71.178.139.225]) by asmtp011.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KSI00K3P5LMHQ70@asmtp011.mac.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:10:37 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Lovell To: Keith Davidson , 76attendees@ietf.org Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:10:33 -0500 Message-id: <20091102221033.1072030823@smtp.mac.com> In-reply-to: <4AEF5654.4070109@internetnz.net.nz> References: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> <62E166D9-A075-4163-92DE-00A76CA0F562@nostrum.com> <4AEF5654.4070109@internetnz.net.nz> X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.6.5 build 4509 English (intel) Subject: [76attendees] Re(2): transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:10:24 -0000 On Tue, Nov 3, 2009, Keith Davidson wrote: >Always you clear customs at the point of entry into the country. That's true but the "point of entry" is not always the first airport at which you land. It depends upon the country. In the United States, the point of entry is always the first airport. But, for example, if you fly United from LA to Melbourne, Australia you land at Sydney first and then fly on to Melbourne. Although you land at Sydney, your "point of entry" is Melbourne and that's where Customs & Immigration happens. When you fly Melbourne -> LA then Melbourne is your departure point, even though you land in Sydney. Cheers.....Peter From sebastian@nzrs.net.nz Mon Nov 2 14:10:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D661828C121 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:10:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.68 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.68 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.627, BAYES_00=-2.599, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I5G8p0OUtUVy for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:10:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from srsomail.nzrs.net.nz (srsomail.nzrs.net.nz [202.46.183.22]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20D528C103 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:10:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (srsomail.office.nzrs.net.nz [202.46.183.22]) by srsomail.nzrs.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651B31E135 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:10:53 +1300 (NZDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at srsomail.office.nzrs.net.nz Received: from srsomail.nzrs.net.nz ([202.46.183.22]) by localhost (srsomail.office.nzrs.net.nz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XcOkD8sZ4tmB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:10:49 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from [192.168.22.185] (unknown [192.168.22.185]) by srsomail.nzrs.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F7D1E0F5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:10:49 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <4AEF58E9.9020608@nzrs.net.nz> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:10:49 +1300 From: Sebastian Castro User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <4AEF2193.5020707@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4AEF2193.5020707@stpeter.im> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:10:37 -0000 Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 11/2/09 10:36 AM, Sandra Murphy wrote: > >> I am taking one of the recommended itineraries not yet discussed. I am >> traveling to Kansai Airport and by train from there to Hiroshima. > > I'll be travelling in that manner, too. If I find any clues I'll post > them here. Based on the information here http://www.ietf76.jp/access/#KIX-Hiroshima and what has been posted on the list on the previous days you take the train (Hakura) from Kansai to Shin-Osaka and then you take the Nozomi from shin-osaka to Hiroshima Station. > >> Can anyone way whether I will need cash to purchase the train ticket in >> Kansai Airport? I thought I saw suggestions on some sites that train >> ticket purchases need cash, which seems odd. > > As I understand it, you need to take a train from Kansai airport to > Osaka, then a train from Osaka to Hiroshima. It's not yet clear to me if > cash payment is required. My understanding is you can get both tickets at Kansai and pay with a credit card. Cheers Sebastian > > /psa > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From ben@nostrum.com Mon Nov 2 14:11:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD8228C1BC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:11:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tI6p9e58nGfP for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:11:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6686F28C1B0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:11:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.8] (adsl-68-94-40-237.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [68.94.40.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA2MC9hh026928 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:12:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Ben Campbell In-Reply-To: <4AEF5654.4070109@internetnz.net.nz> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:12:04 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <30B9BC74-E3B3-4E17-9E98-FAF80E09BE19@nostrum.com> References: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> <62E166D9-A075-4163-92DE-00A76CA0F562@nostrum.com> <4AEF5654.4070109@internetnz.net.nz> To: Keith Davidson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 68.94.40.237 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:11:52 -0000 On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Keith Davidson wrote: > Always you clear customs at the point of entry into the country. > > I didn't think you could connect from Narita to Hiroshima for a > domestic flight, and that flights from Tokyo to Hiroshima depart > from Haneda airport, which is about 1 hour by train away from Narita > airport? > ANA 3129 theoretically leaves NRT at 17:25 Friday and arrives at HIJ at 19:20. 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Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:40:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AEF5FC1.8090900@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:40:01 -0500 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Castro References: <4AEF2193.5020707@stpeter.im> <4AEF58E9.9020608@nzrs.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <4AEF58E9.9020608@nzrs.net.nz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:39:49 -0000 Sebastian Castro allegedly wrote on 11/02/2009 5:10 PM:> you take the train (Hakura) from Kansai Haruka Express From kato@wide.ad.jp Mon Nov 2 15:45:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BDD3A67F4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; 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Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:45:30 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:45:29 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091103.084529.45789512.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: sandy@sparta.com From: Akira Kato In-Reply-To: References: <4AEF2193.5020707@stpeter.im> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:45:26 -0000 > The directions implied to me that one made one purchase at the airport > for both tickets (or a combined ticket). While you need to change the trains at Shin-Osaka, you can buy a single (more precisely "set of") ticket down to Hiroshima. As Scott suggested, you enjoy some discount for express train surcharge. Also it is generally expected that the station staffs at an international airport may have better English skill than other stations. More precisely, there are 6 JR comapnies operating passenger trains now. They were "Japan National Railways", and divided and turned into private companies in 1987. You can buy a ticket between a pair of any of JR system stations. You need to pay "per-train" basis for limited express surcharge and green-car (first class) surcharge, but the station ticket office is able to sell at once. -- Akira Kato From kato@wide.ad.jp Mon Nov 2 15:53:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD653A68B0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:53:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.275 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.275 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.325, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iR7CPJsoCggJ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:53:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5B63A681F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:53:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (unknown [IPv6:2001:200:167:2ec1:21f:3bff:fec6:73bd]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 867EE7FDAB; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:54:05 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D480FE7D1D; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:48:50 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:48:50 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091103.084850.165771670.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: stpeter@stpeter.im From: Akira Kato In-Reply-To: <4AEF2193.5020707@stpeter.im> References: <4AEF2193.5020707@stpeter.im> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org, sandy@sparta.com Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:53:46 -0000 > As I understand it, you need to take a train from Kansai airport to > Osaka, then a train from Osaka to Hiroshima. It's not yet clear to me if > cash payment is required. JR companies had required to pay by cash for many years, but now they changed their minds. Credit card is now acceptable at many of the long-haul ticket counters (called Midori-no-Madoguchi, colored in Green). -- Akira Kato From jmauch@us.ntt.net Mon Nov 2 15:59:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42BAF3A681F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:59:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6a8JRP3YChfx for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:59:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from puck.nether.net (puck.nether.net [IPv6:2001:418:3f4::5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229863A67D7 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:59:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:418:3f4:4:217:f2ff:fecf:8ee1] ([IPv6:2001:418:3f4:4:217:f2ff:fecf:8ee1]) (authenticated bits=0) by puck.nether.net (8.14.3/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nA3002l3097010 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:00:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jmauch@us.ntt.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Jared Mauch In-Reply-To: <20091103.084529.45789512.kato@wide.ad.jp> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:59:31 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <99921F37-A998-4FB6-81B2-0099FB5A7AA2@us.ntt.net> References: <4AEF2193.5020707@stpeter.im> <20091103.084529.45789512.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: Akira Kato X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (puck.nether.net [IPv6:2001:418:3f4::5]); Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:00:02 -0500 (EST) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org, sandy@sparta.com Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:59:14 -0000 [try number two from 'other' address] On Nov 2, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Akira Kato wrote: >> >> The directions implied to me that one made one purchase at the >> airport >> for both tickets (or a combined ticket). > > While you need to change the trains at Shin-Osaka, you can buy a > single (more precisely "set of") ticket down to Hiroshima. As Scott > suggested, you enjoy some discount for express train surcharge. Also > it is generally expected that the station staffs at an international > airport may have better English skill than other stations. I also suggest that if you are buying your ticket at a site other than the Airport you know the exact train# you want to ride on. If you do not speak the same language as the ticket office, you can get by with the right information on paper. The JR machines can also sell you NEX (if your travel involves Tokyo) and other tickets in English. I presume the similar is also true in Kansai/Hiroshima. I will be taking the Kansai -> Hiroshima trip Saturday after spending the night at Kansai. (dtw-msp-nrt[rjaa]-kix[rjbb]). - Jared From ole@cisco.com Mon Nov 2 16:05:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED013A6919 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:05:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.585 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.585 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FoT3Jp1mzM1l for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:05:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923773A68B0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:05:42 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAD8C70qrR7H+/2dsb2JhbADFKoEaCAGIAwmNaYJUgWkE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,670,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="423281326" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 03 Nov 2009 00:06:02 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA3062ow010810; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:06:02 GMT Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:05:25 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Jared Mauch In-Reply-To: <99921F37-A998-4FB6-81B2-0099FB5A7AA2@us.ntt.net> Message-ID: References: <4AEF2193.5020707@stpeter.im> <20091103.084529.45789512.kato@wide.ad.jp> <99921F37-A998-4FB6-81B2-0099FB5A7AA2@us.ntt.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org, sandy@sparta.com Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:05:43 -0000 I highly recommend using Hyperdia to plan your trip. Write down the details and hand it to the JR ticket office. http://www.hyperdia.com/en/ Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From kawamucho@mesh.ad.jp Mon Nov 2 17:34:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893853A6886 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:34:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.21 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vmyzw2TlEZwa for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:34:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp (TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp [202.32.8.193]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF283A682F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:34:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.184]) by tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id nA31YSNw009378; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:34:28 +0900 (JST) Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) id nA31YSd17653; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:34:28 +0900 (JST) Received: from bgas200085.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp (bgas200085.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp [10.82.141.45]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id nA31YRfb003499; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:34:27 +0900 (JST) Received: from bsac29088.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bgas200085.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp (BINGO/BINGO/06101717) with ESMTP id nA31YRdk008512; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:34:27 +0900 Received: from mail.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp (bgsx5626.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp [10.18.151.10]) by bsac29088.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp (BINGO/BINGO/06101717) with ESMTP id nA31YRl0017059; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:34:27 +0900 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (edonet065.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp [10.19.137.65]) (authenticated bits=0) (envelope-from kawamucho@mesh.ad.jp) by mail.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp (BINGO/BINGO/06101717) with ESMTP id nA31YRiw023870 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:34:27 +0900 Message-ID: <4AEF88A1.3070901@mesh.ad.jp> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:34:25 +0900 From: Seiichi Kawamura User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Campbell References: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> <62E166D9-A075-4163-92DE-00A76CA0F562@nostrum.com> <4AEF5654.4070109@internetnz.net.nz> <30B9BC74-E3B3-4E17-9E98-FAF80E09BE19@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <30B9BC74-E3B3-4E17-9E98-FAF80E09BE19@nostrum.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:34:10 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ben Campbell wrote: > > On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Keith Davidson wrote: > >> Always you clear customs at the point of entry into the country. >> >> I didn't think you could connect from Narita to Hiroshima for a >> domestic flight, and that flights from Tokyo to Hiroshima depart from >> Haneda airport, which is about 1 hour by train away from Narita airport? >> > > ANA 3129 theoretically leaves NRT at 17:25 Friday and arrives at HIJ at > 19:20. Correct. If you are traveling NRT-HND-HIJ, you have a choice of taking either bus or train from Narita to Haneda. Both will take around 1.5hours. http://www.ietf76.jp/access/#NRT-Hiroshima Seiichi -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkrviKEACgkQcrhTYfxyMkI3zwCdG8tccEhPBCGckr2FphABJud8 v3EAn25AlhZlUqK/p6PSym9wnJWIp7FI =3YnA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From wkumari@google.com Mon Nov 2 17:37:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4773A6882 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:37:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tebOIEASfpIb for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:37:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out.google.com (smtp-out.google.com [216.239.33.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3CAE3A682F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:37:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from zps78.corp.google.com (zps78.corp.google.com [172.25.146.78]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id nA31bXgR009066 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:37:35 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; t=1257212255; bh=pzYl3xYWrhZAPYfZGo1jGg3eymo=; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID:Subject:From: To:Cc:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=kAtYeTX2RIAdnZHd8joaCJiTe+YWtO1R6HhUPzc3d11X3DQPyvmVwvtPZ6ugJj6rS vax2TBrXcu0pJ4Df+8eMQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=beta; d=google.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to: cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-system-of-record; b=H8Pym1OjNSW89nCoohBMr5Y8qd8444SN4nBNrXg3VQ0/dTh/C+cSrhlTn57dJAaMN FzSSc2eZong6EAQuGjiVQ== Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (eyg4.prod.google.com [10.208.7.4]) by zps78.corp.google.com with ESMTP id nA31bUY0011318 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:37:31 -0800 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so1138257eyg.8 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:37:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.90.81 with SMTP id d59mr3161669wef.29.1257212249597; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:37:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4ACF6DC8.3070108@ieca.com> <20091013.000836.122204317.kato@wide.ad.jp> <4AD34990.5010304@digium.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:37:29 -0500 Message-ID: <41c05ea00911021737u220aa54y83885a81af7077ba@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Kumari To: "Lu, Guang" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-System-Of-Record: true Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:37:22 -0000 I'm going to be on United Airlines 9731, arriving Hiroshima (HIJ), Fri, Nov 6 at 7:10pm JST --- if anyone is arriving at around the same time and would like to share a cab (yes, I realize that the train is cheaper, but, well, more complex ) please let me know and we'll make arrangements... W On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Lu, Guang wrot= e: > Hello, > > Thank you for sharing the travel information. I found it very helpful. > > I will arrive at the Hiroshima airport and booked the Rihga Royal Hotel > Hiroshima hotel. From the hotel website it says > > "From Hiroshima Airport > Board the airport limousine bus to the Hiroshima Bus Center. The ride is > about 1 hour and costs 1,300 yen each way. The buses run from 8:30 to > 21:20 from the airport, and 5:55 to 19:15 returning to the airport. > Alternatively, take the taxi, also approximately 1 hour. The taxi costs > about 15,000 yen including road tolls." > > It is not clear how frequent the limousine bus is, and I'm afraid that I > may miss it since my flight arrives late. > > Does anyone know if there is any other way to get to the hotel (or the > area) besides taking a taxi? > > Thanks and best regards, > Guang > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Ole Jacobsen > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:07 PM > To: Kevin P. Fleming > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [76attendees] More About the Train Fares > > > Kato san has posted a detailed explanation of the JR ticket rules > here: http://www.ietf76.jp/general/ > > Summary: There IS a discount for round-trip fares provided that you > travel more than 600km in each direction. So, if you are able to > plan exactly when to return, write down the info you get from the > hyperdia link and present your entire journey to the JR agent at > Narita (Kansai is too close to Hiroshima for the discount). > > General rule: If I say something, it's based on my experience from > many visits to Japan, but Kato san lives in Japan and speak Japanese > a lot better than I do. So you should trust his word, not mine, when > in doubt. > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, =A0The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 =A0 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com =A0URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > --=20 Warren "Ace" Kumari Once again I am tying a new keyboard, so please excuse the even worse than usual typing! From hassanzaheer@gmail.com Mon Nov 2 20:54:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A313A688A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:54:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=x tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h8aOvEkXgGrM for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:54:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vw0-f193.google.com (mail-vw0-f193.google.com [209.85.212.193]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F163A6843 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:54:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by vws31 with SMTP id 31so1658024vws.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:54:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Idjokg3f3KdXB1OjSchRFx1xpR3WkVougJ6pzonSsE0=; b=rRatn4NG56VCxYiN1jz21+LtiJZKNdsaYp9VA8qcfcN/0x+sGtWVu329a8FVVVJIpR tPvk7Co3rejENYYfY+wy4e3TlH5hH7rwbhARiRB+UdlU/76yRBnx5C13CmAeZXfJcbSp ycsUKpB+C9sSvoE6lvFaV1PWmTld4/iPAHuC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=WyNFaSwi4JQpkqM+Anea+QvR1oaEp+IMKvfleWsRXZObvleuBGossL4iVo7v+n/9Ws VlsAkYm1Av2OUK1s2MP5fIW2iZvLX9p8J0+BEEd6m4tEa64yN+GEcIKkI+onC+XmE0Rz GwA1pMETC9LIe4N6u6aKx0gGC4kGXwh53Qzmw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.121.155 with SMTP id h27mr6149430vcr.80.1257224074400; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:54:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4AEF2193.5020707@stpeter.im> <20091103.084529.45789512.kato@wide.ad.jp> <99921F37-A998-4FB6-81B2-0099FB5A7AA2@us.ntt.net> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:54:34 +0500 Message-ID: <79611dc80911022054w4b2282a7i78bbd67f07a28dfe@mail.gmail.com> From: Hassan Zaheer To: Ole Jacobsen Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=001636c931925b98410477704a18 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org, sandy@sparta.com Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:54:16 -0000 --001636c931925b98410477704a18 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c931925b98390477704a16 --001636c931925b98390477704a16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ole is very right, you can get all the required details to plan your trip. I'm also traveling in the same manner, arriving at Kansai on 6 Nov at 19:00 and traveling by train to Hiroshima, I'm attaching the possible train routes for arriving on the same day at Hiroshima Note: You have to take Haruka express departing at 20:46 to reach Hiroshima in the same day. Also as I discussed with dikshie about money exchange and his comments are as below there are some money changers in Kansai airport. please refer to: http://www.kansai-airport.or.jp/en/service/money/index.html the bad news: some of them close on 19.00JST. the good news: I heard from my friend some of them open until 22.00JST since Kansai is 24hours airport. But I suggest to prepare Japanese yen from you country. if you have credit card or international cash card, please bring it. Hassan On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > I highly recommend using Hyperdia to plan your trip. Write down the > details and hand it to the JR ticket office. > > http://www.hyperdia.com/en/ > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > -- -- Hassan Zaheer Manager IP Core Worldcall Telecom Ltd. --001636c931925b98390477704a16 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ole is very right, you can get all the required details to plan your trip.<= br>
I'm also traveling in the same manner, arriving at Kansai on 6 N= ov at 19:00 and traveling by train to Hiroshima, I'm attaching the poss= ible train routes for arriving on the same day at Hiroshima

Note: You have to take Haruka express departing at 20:46 to reach Hiros= hima in the same day.

Also as I discussed with dikshie about money exchange and his comme= nts are as below
there are some money changers in Kansai airport.
please refer to:

http://www.kansai-airport.or.jp/en/service/mon=
ey/index.html

the bad news: some of them close on 19.00JST.
t=
he good news: I heard from my friend some of them open until 22.00JST

since Kansai is 24hours airport.
But I suggest to prepare Japanese yen f=
rom you country.
if you have credit card or international cash card, ple=
ase bring it.


Hassan

On Tue,= Nov 3, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com> wrote:

I highly recommend using Hyperdia to plan your trip. Write down the
details and hand it to the JR ticket office.

http://www.hyperd= ia.com/en/


Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher, =A0The Internet Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
Tel: +1 408-527-8972 =A0 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
E-mail: ole@cisco.com =A0URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj



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Hass= an Zaheer
Manager IP Core

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<41c05ea00911021737u220aa54y83885a81af7077ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <41c05ea00911021737u220aa54y83885a81af7077ba@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:54:51 -0000 > I'm going to be on United Airlines 9731, arriving Hiroshima (HIJ), > Fri, Nov 6 at 7:10pm JST --- if anyone is arriving at around the same > time and would like to share a cab (yes, I realize that the train is > cheaper, but, well, more complex ) please let me know and we'll make > arrangements... While direct taxi ride from the airport is the fastest and less hassle way (about 50min), it is still expensive (around 15,000 JPY per cab, toll of express way extra), even if shared by three persons (four is not practical as each passenger have a big lagguage). I'd suggest you to take a bus to Bus Center or Hiroshima Station (50-60min, 1,300 JPY per person), then change to taxi (10min, 1,000-1,500 JPY per cab). -- Akira Kato From kato@wide.ad.jp Mon Nov 2 21:09:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8B23A6948 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:09:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.216, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0lbTatEdU6EF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:09:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7893A67E3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:09:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (EM114-48-171-91.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp [114.48.171.91]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 42F8B7FDAB; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:09:47 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC904E7D1D; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:09:42 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:09:42 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091103.140942.155144465.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: ben@nostrum.com From: Akira Kato In-Reply-To: <30B9BC74-E3B3-4E17-9E98-FAF80E09BE19@nostrum.com> References: <62E166D9-A075-4163-92DE-00A76CA0F562@nostrum.com> <4AEF5654.4070109@internetnz.net.nz> <30B9BC74-E3B3-4E17-9E98-FAF80E09BE19@nostrum.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:09:29 -0000 > ANA 3129 theoretically leaves NRT at 17:25 Friday and arrives at HIJ > at 19:20. This is a domestic flight; you need to clear the immegration, pick your luggages up at the baggage claim, clear the custom, then go to the domestic check-in counter at the very south end of 1F in the Terminal-1 of Narita Airport. If you will be arriving at Terminal-2, after clearing the custom, take free shuttle bus to go to Terminal-1. UA9731 is another name of this flight; do not go to 4F United check-in counter. By the way, while only few people will be applicable, there are some exceptional cases to "CIQ at the first aiport" principle. If you're going take NW327 from NRT to KIX, you need to clear the immegration and others at Kansai rather than Narita. This flight arrives at KIX at 9:20pm, there is no same-day connection to Hiroshima, unfortunately. -- Akira Kato From ben@nostrum.com Mon Nov 2 21:27:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8AD63A6974 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:27:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LpLghTgZQGRf for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:27:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D2A3A688F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:27:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.8] (adsl-68-94-40-237.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [68.94.40.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA35S2kf059646 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:28:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Ben Campbell In-Reply-To: <20091103.140942.155144465.kato@wide.ad.jp> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:27:59 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <62E166D9-A075-4163-92DE-00A76CA0F562@nostrum.com> <4AEF5654.4070109@internetnz.net.nz> <30B9BC74-E3B3-4E17-9E98-FAF80E09BE19@nostrum.com> <20091103.140942.155144465.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: Akira Kato X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 68.94.40.237 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:27:49 -0000 Thanks--that's very helpful. Do you know what the current carry-on rules are for domestic flights out of NRT? Can I carry the usual "1 carry on bag and one personal item" that I would typically have on the international leg? Thanks! Ben. On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:09 PM, Akira Kato wrote: > >> ANA 3129 theoretically leaves NRT at 17:25 Friday and arrives at HIJ >> at 19:20. > > This is a domestic flight; you need to clear the immegration, pick > your luggages up at the baggage claim, clear the custom, then go to > the domestic check-in counter at the very south end of 1F in the > Terminal-1 of Narita Airport. If you will be arriving at Terminal-2, > after clearing the custom, take free shuttle bus to go to Terminal-1. > UA9731 is another name of this flight; do not go to 4F United check-in > counter. > > By the way, while only few people will be applicable, there are some > exceptional cases to "CIQ at the first aiport" principle. If you're > going take NW327 from NRT to KIX, you need to clear the immegration > and others at Kansai rather than Narita. This flight arrives at KIX at > 9:20pm, there is no same-day connection to Hiroshima, unfortunately. > > -- Akira Kato > > From gg55go@gmail.com Mon Nov 2 21:45:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9513A68CB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:45:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.548 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.548 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.051, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I+cFb1q87f1P for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:45:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f183.google.com (mail-yw0-f183.google.com [209.85.211.183]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F255A3A6989 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:45:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywh13 with SMTP id 13so6087286ywh.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:45:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Lg5gB0qIsCseJ2yxmIUIyUTjqU3KhmlqstMd0x0tGY8=; b=WQv7P44HLBZp9K2SM99ZbY7cfrK80NmqRzI8E3mvpyCBAXljGYqm5COOOnm/6J3cA5 +LKWzG+UgKAx0B27m0gZ3L2cgk/pKlwdQln0MqP6xpYUKWt8KXbvOyEmjPSK5TH8CYC5 dlbPTlhDcejM4F+eyOaHBxrYl6+Ohz42ZPgRg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XUoTq1tEArbDFyHylwPMH++CY1IIfKux30eTTaHX421Y3SEVJyHEIXRSBHK+uAnhxc J+ZEpYN9mceadRf3SqyHdq/oH/isckTJ4xe/fzlLbBqrgLBV0ZRsKGL5wFDbbVfnUOJy g0M3QAbpYUZdg8rpO9Mgh6yherk/qDWT1eyWs= Received: by 10.101.165.4 with SMTP id s4mr3340032ano.119.1257227133942; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:45:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.25? (192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm2856791yxd.34.2009.11.02.21.45.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:45:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AEFC375.60306@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:45:25 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Akira Kato , sandy@sparta.com References: <41c05ea00911021737u220aa54y83885a81af7077ba@mail.gmail.com> <20091103.135449.103160457.kato@wide.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: <20091103.135449.103160457.kato@wide.ad.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:45:24 -0000 Hi Sandy Mr. Kato and travelers Subject: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel From: Sandra Murphy Date: Tue Nov 03 2009 02:36:31 GMT+0900 >> Welcome to Hiroshima! >> >> Hey guys >> >> >> This site might be useful. >> >> http://www.ietf76.jp/archives.html > > Thank you for all the info you have provided. You have done a wonderful > job. This is not my job. The Host - WIDE's job especially Mr. Kato who is also a 76attendees. Subject: Re:[76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel From: Akira Kato Date: Tue Nov 03 2009 13:54:49 GMT+0900 >> I'm going to be on United Airlines 9731, arriving Hiroshima (HIJ), >> Fri, Nov 6 at 7:10pm JST --- if anyone is arriving at around the same >> time and would like to share a cab (yes, I realize that the train is >> cheaper, but, well, more complex ) please let me know and we'll make >> arrangements... > > > While direct taxi ride from the airport is the fastest and less hassle > way (about 50min), it is still expensive (around 15,000 JPY per cab, > toll of express way extra), even if shared by three persons (four is > not practical as each passenger have a big lagguage). > > I'd suggest you to take a bus to Bus Center or Hiroshima Station > (50-60min, 1,300 JPY per person), then change to taxi (10min, > 1,000-1,500 JPY per cab). > > -- Akira Kato I agree with Mr. Kato. The Limousine Bus Service would be convenient to get to Hiroshima city, "Hiroshima Station (Shinkansen Exit)", or "Hiroshima Bus Center". http://www.hij.airport.jp/english/access/now/bus/b01b.php If you guys are energetic parson, whatever. Browsing Hiroshima town is fun! Getting on a street car is also fun on your journey. If not, I recommend, go straight to Hiroshima Station by limousine, and ask the driver, "Do-co(Where) ta-ku-shi-i(taxi)?", and take a cab at there, and tell him/her "XXX Hou-te-lu(Hotel) pu-li-i-zu(plese)". ref. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Japanese/Pronunciation Good luck. 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(192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm2873523yxd.16.2009.11.02.22.29.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:29:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AEFCDD8.9010000@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:29:44 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Seiichi Kawamura References: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> <62E166D9-A075-4163-92DE-00A76CA0F562@nostrum.com> <4AEF5654.4070109@internetnz.net.nz> <30B9BC74-E3B3-4E17-9E98-FAF80E09BE19@nostrum.com> <4AEF88A1.3070901@mesh.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: <4AEF88A1.3070901@mesh.ad.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 06:29:37 -0000 Hi Sufferer from Japanese complex air transportation. If you can transfer to HIJ(Hiroshima) at NRT(Narita), you are lucky. If you have to transfer to HND(Haneda) from NRT to get to HIJ, and you can afford time to drop into Akihabara in Tokyo, that you are also lucky. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara If you wanna go to Akihabara, refer to http://wikitravel.org/en/Tokyo/Akihabara And you might be able to choose the ways to get to Hiroshima mainly. #1 Akihabara station -> local line(10m) -> Tokyo(or Shinagawa) station -> bullet train(4h) -> Hiroshima station #2 Akihabara station -> local line 1(20m) -> Shinagawa station -> local line 2(30m) -> Haneda Airport station -> waiting(1h) -> Haneda Airport(HND) -> 1h -> Hiroshima Airport (HIJ) -> Limousine(1h) -> Hiroshima station As #1, better making a reservation for the bullet train(Shinkansen) ticket at JR(Japan-Railways) Narita-Airport station. #2 is so complicated though, it depends on your airline's service including domestic ticket from HND to HIJ. Which is faster? God only knows. GO From: Seiichi Kawamura Date: Tue Nov 03 2009 10:34:25 GMT+0900 > Ben Campbell wrote: >> On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Keith Davidson wrote: > >>> Always you clear customs at the point of entry into the country. >>> >>> I didn't think you could connect from Narita to Hiroshima for a >>> domestic flight, and that flights from Tokyo to Hiroshima depart from >>> Haneda airport, which is about 1 hour by train away from Narita airport? >>> >> ANA 3129 theoretically leaves NRT at 17:25 Friday and arrives at HIJ at >> 19:20. > > Correct. If you are traveling NRT-HND-HIJ, you have a choice of > taking either bus or train from Narita to Haneda. Both will take around 1.5hours. > http://www.ietf76.jp/access/#NRT-Hiroshima > > Seiichi From keith@internetnz.net.nz Mon Nov 2 22:49:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F503A6997 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:49:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.855 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.855 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.745, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cF72oMezodMS for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:49:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from gutentight.internetnz.net.nz (gutentight.internetnz.net.nz [202.46.176.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF923A686A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:49:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gutentight.internetnz.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF3795A10 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:49:16 +1300 (NZDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at internetnz.net.nz Received: from gutentight.internetnz.net.nz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gutentight.internetnz.net.nz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vVgnqPbwShcX for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:49:08 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from [10.10.10.25] (s229090.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp [220.157.229.90]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by gutentight.internetnz.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6824495A0E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:49:08 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <4AEFD262.4060604@internetnz.net.nz> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:49:06 +1300 From: Keith Davidson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> <62E166D9-A075-4163-92DE-00A76CA0F562@nostrum.com> <4AEF5654.4070109@internetnz.net.nz> <30B9BC74-E3B3-4E17-9E98-FAF80E09BE19@nostrum.com> <4AEF88A1.3070901@mesh.ad.jp> <4AEFCDD8.9010000@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4AEFCDD8.9010000@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] ATM's X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 06:49:08 -0000 All, I see some discussion on difficulties using ATM's with foreign credit cards in Japan. The Post Offices usually have ATM's that accept foreign cards, but also and maybe less well known, so do most 7-11 shops. I have just returned from not being able to find the Kyoto Post Office and stopped into a 7-11 where some Germans were withdrawing cash from the ATM, and I was able to get cash too, which surprised me as our NZ credit cards dont have all the fiddly additional security features the USA cards have. The lady in the 7-11 told me that she thinks maybe half of all 7-11 shops in Japan will allow foreign credit cards. And then walking back to the hotel, I found the Post Office, even though I had walked past it 3 times in the past 2 days! 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(192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 35sm2897864yxh.69.2009.11.02.23.11.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:11:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AEFD7B5.3070501@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:11:49 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Lemon References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> <4AEF0689.2020203@gmail.com> <4F61DE24-DB65-48DD-8F36-0D2E1520C281@fugue.com> In-Reply-To: <4F61DE24-DB65-48DD-8F36-0D2E1520C281@fugue.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:11:40 -0000 Hi Ted I don't know "macrobiotic" though, this site might be good. http://vege-navi.jp/?..2.&pref_id=34 Or to search nice restaurants for other people, Get Hiroshima http://www.gethiroshima.com/en/ is the most popular site for foreigners who live in Hiroshima. And its map of "GetHiroshima Map" http://www.gethiroshima.com/getmap this would be precious for tourists. You can download the PDF files and print them. GO From: Ted Lemon Date: Tue Nov 03 2009 02:45:54 GMT+0900 > On Nov 2, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Go Kawaguchi wrote: >> This site might be useful. > > It's very useful--thank you! > > It would help to have a page with information for people who do are vegetarian. I've found this to be difficult when traveling to Japan in the past - most soup is made with dashi, and the vegetarian items you find at sushi bars in the U.S. are not that common in Japan. In the U.S. there is a tradition of Japanese restaurants called "macrobiotic" which often have very simple vegetarian and fish dishes, but I've never found one of these in Japan - I don't think they cater to tourists, if they exist at all. > > Anyway, whether you can help with this or not, thank you for all the information you've posted! > From peng.yang.chn@gmail.com Mon Nov 2 23:22:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2655A28C145 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:22:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_52=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xvF0CEFfkn8Q for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-px0-f171.google.com (mail-px0-f171.google.com [209.85.216.171]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CD83A685C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by pxi1 with SMTP id 1so4246825pxi.32 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:22:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=hiPgD8sYVVhn7CSoLnLhVVKAtmMCmcAK7oHQX4iLjho=; b=gdtg8YbQsU+HaBxItN/EoHUgzwKrxvD029KvfgUVKc1iuA/H8eheooGtLUbxSnTn5M DCP3nnq+RYmrUrs1xNxmOiZ0aIk7mgWw+7xJjF0ta3YJaZ5q8FXUykzbySGKJysnGfPh GmF6QWzLG0UirdkVQTRadCnYKmA47fSjTaTR0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=f5aJxOa5XUAQH0ASBwN9jGZM5EgT4y9BM//zyg8Ut+xur9EoYKIWIFG0Cvcy34sabl R/WIYrX2Qpk28x+BHNYridG6ZhSdtUpaH8a6QixjTL1zBL0Ir1jzrYK6koufIuvWp1d+ SFJWTzhGHXUVy7VFAg8Rj5nf4e4LgUVjR4Az8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.41.16 with SMTP id t16mr361080rvj.258.1257232942790; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:22:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AEFCDD8.9010000@gmail.com> References: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> <62E166D9-A075-4163-92DE-00A76CA0F562@nostrum.com> <4AEF5654.4070109@internetnz.net.nz> <30B9BC74-E3B3-4E17-9E98-FAF80E09BE19@nostrum.com> <4AEF88A1.3070901@mesh.ad.jp> <4AEFCDD8.9010000@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:22:22 +0800 Message-ID: <4c5c7a6d0911022322qd8b3ca3t34f8f214ab0fa4d6@mail.gmail.com> From: Peny Yang To: Go Kawaguchi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:22:06 -0000 Hi, >From NRT to HND, there is bus service. Check the link below for time-table and fare. http://www.limousinebus.co.jp/global.html Basically, I don't think it's a good idea to take bullet train (Shinkansen) from Tokyo to Hiroshima. It's too far. If transfer in KIX, bullet train is a good option. Peny On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Go Kawaguchi wrote: > Hi > Sufferer from Japanese complex air transportation. > > > If you can transfer to HIJ(Hiroshima) at NRT(Narita), you are lucky. > > If you have to transfer to HND(Haneda) from NRT to get to HIJ, and you > can afford time to drop into Akihabara in Tokyo, that you are also lucky. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara > > If you wanna go to Akihabara, > refer to > http://wikitravel.org/en/Tokyo/Akihabara > > And you might be able to choose the ways to get to Hiroshima mainly. > > #1 Akihabara station -> local line(10m) -> Tokyo(or Shinagawa) station > -> bullet train(4h) -> Hiroshima station > > #2 Akihabara station -> local line 1(20m) -> Shinagawa station -> local > line 2(30m) -> Haneda Airport station -> waiting(1h) -> Haneda > Airport(HND) -> 1h -> Hiroshima Airport (HIJ) -> Limousine(1h) -> > Hiroshima station > > As #1, better making a reservation for the bullet train(Shinkansen) > ticket at JR(Japan-Railways) Narita-Airport station. > > #2 is so complicated though, it depends on your airline's service > including domestic ticket from HND to HIJ. > > Which is faster? > God only knows. > > > GO > > From: Seiichi Kawamura > Date: Tue Nov 03 2009 10:34:25 GMT+0900 > >> Ben Campbell wrote: >>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Keith Davidson wrote: >> >>>> Always you clear customs at the point of entry into the country. >>>> >>>> I didn't think you could connect from Narita to Hiroshima for a >>>> domestic flight, and that flights from Tokyo to Hiroshima depart from >>>> Haneda airport, which is about 1 hour by train away from Narita airport? >>>> >>> ANA 3129 theoretically leaves NRT at 17:25 Friday and arrives at HIJ at >>> 19:20. >> >> Correct. If you are traveling NRT-HND-HIJ, you have a choice of >> taking either bus or train from Narita to Haneda. Both will take around 1.5hours. >> http://www.ietf76.jp/access/#NRT-Hiroshima >> >> Seiichi > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From ole@cisco.com Tue Nov 3 02:16:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3243A696A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:16:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.586 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.586 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.013, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QnyJvrh9fJgu for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:16:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003073A697D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:16:28 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-3.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAOqR70qrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbADFQYEaCAGIAwmOKoJUgWkE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,673,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="200754708" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 03 Nov 2009 10:16:49 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA3AGnXn002235; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:16:49 GMT Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:16:11 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Go Kawaguchi In-Reply-To: <4AEFC375.60306@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <41c05ea00911021737u220aa54y83885a81af7077ba@mail.gmail.com> <20091103.135449.103160457.kato@wide.ad.jp> <4AEFC375.60306@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org, sandy@sparta.com Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:16:29 -0000 "and tell him/her "XXX Hou-te-lu(Hotel) pu-li-i-zu(plese)" Try this instead: "XXX Ho-te-RU (Hotel) pu-RI-i-zu (please)" Trying to pronounce L as L instead of L as R will just confuse the driver :-) And it gets even worse when the auto-reversal algorithm kicks in so that "Interop" becomes "Intelop", but this is really the subject of an entire book if not PhD thesis. Enjoy, Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From ole@cisco.com Tue Nov 3 02:21:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F4C3A69E4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:21:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.586 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.586 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.013, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4Y19XSMDHJdN for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:21:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF103A69E3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:21:37 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAFOT70qrR7H+/2dsb2JhbADFTYEaCAGWNoQ9BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,673,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="265326323" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 03 Nov 2009 10:21:58 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA3ALvJM003599; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:21:57 GMT Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:21:19 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Peny Yang In-Reply-To: <4c5c7a6d0911022322qd8b3ca3t34f8f214ab0fa4d6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> <62E166D9-A075-4163-92DE-00A76CA0F562@nostrum.com> <4AEF5654.4070109@internetnz.net.nz> <30B9BC74-E3B3-4E17-9E98-FAF80E09BE19@nostrum.com> <4AEF88A1.3070901@mesh.ad.jp> <4AEFCDD8.9010000@gmail.com> <4c5c7a6d0911022322qd8b3ca3t34f8f214ab0fa4d6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:21:38 -0000 On Tue, 3 Nov 2009, Peny Yang wrote: > Hi, > > >From NRT to HND, there is bus service. Check the link below for > time-table and fare. > http://www.limousinebus.co.jp/global.html > > Basically, I don't think it's a good idea to take bullet train > (Shinkansen) from Tokyo to Hiroshima. It's too far. > If transfer in KIX, bullet train is a good option. > > Peny > Strong disagreement! By the time you get to/from the airports at either end and in time for regular check-in, you will have spent about the same time as just taking the train. Tokyo --> Hiroshima on a Nozomi is about 3:47 Ole From martin.hoffmann@telio.ch Tue Nov 3 02:32:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431303A67CC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:32:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.39 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.39 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i0+T47jy5T0D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:32:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from denofr.de (denofr.de [85.214.74.48]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851963A69DA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:32:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by denofr.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id B1F62230071; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:31:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from mlap.hq.telio.no (unknown [195.65.110.210]) by denofr.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8250223002E; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:31:26 +0100 (CET) Received: by mlap.hq.telio.no (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6B00F21C4FD; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:32:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:32:38 +0100 From: Martin Hoffmann To: Ole Jacobsen Message-ID: <20091103103238.GC20241@mlap.hq.telio.no> References: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> <62E166D9-A075-4163-92DE-00A76CA0F562@nostrum.com> <4AEF5654.4070109@internetnz.net.nz> <30B9BC74-E3B3-4E17-9E98-FAF80E09BE19@nostrum.com> <4AEF88A1.3070901@mesh.ad.jp> <4AEFCDD8.9010000@gmail.com> <4c5c7a6d0911022322qd8b3ca3t34f8f214ab0fa4d6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:32:29 -0000 Ole Jacobsen wrote: >=20 > By the time you get to/from the airports at either end and in time for=20 > regular check-in, you will have spent about the same time as just=20 > taking the train. Tokyo --> Hiroshima on a Nozomi is about 3:47 A suggestion for those who have an early flight back from Narita and feel adventurous is the Sunrise Seto overnight train. You'd leave Hiroshima at 21:50, change to the overnight at Himeji at half past eleven, and arrive in Tokyo at 7 in the morning. Various types of accomodation are available: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunrise_Seto#Accommodations_and_fees With a Type B sleeping compartment, prizes should be at Nozomi level. 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(192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm2448370ywg.4.2009.11.03.02.51.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:51:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF00B3C.6090102@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:51:40 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Soccer, part IV X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:51:36 -0000 Hi freaks Let me know soccer or futsal event. There are several grounds playing futsal in Hiroshima. Mizuno Futsal Plaza Hiroshima http://www.mfpnet.com/14hrs/14hrs.html 4-16-7 Kan-on-Shinmachi Nishi-ku Hiroshima-city (next to Marina hop in Kan-on) This seems good. Fee: from 19:00 to 23:00, 11,550 yen / hour Vacancy: from 19:00 to 22:00 on 8th through 12th seems vacancy. Check it out on the Japanese page. And nobody doesn't worry about shoes. We can rent them by 315 yen per day. Training wears over and under as well by 315 yen per day, means you don't have to wash your clothes. I have played fulsal there several times. Other grounds' info. Only Japanese sites are available to see. Pivox Hiroshima http://pivox.funnavi.com/ 21-10 Moto-Ujina-cho Minami-ku Hiroshima-city Mizuno Futsal Plaza Kure 3-2-9 Ohhama Tennou Kure-city http://www.mfpnet.com/17kre/17kre.html Green Field http://www.suncherry-sports.jp/green-field/ 1-2-1 Jigozen-mae-kita Hatsukaichi-city GO From rhe@nosc.ja.net Tue Nov 3 05:14:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5815C3A6A0C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:14:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3uCcEMeTvzJj for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:14:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from nosc.ja.net (nosc.ja.net [IPv6:2001:630:0:40::14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253E03A6A0A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:14:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from vpn-134.ja.net ([128.86.24.134]) by nosc.ja.net with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N5JDg-0001cz-FY for 76attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:14:45 +0000 Message-ID: <4AF02CC1.60107@nosc.ja.net> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:14:41 +0000 From: Rob Evans User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> References: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> In-Reply-To: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:14:26 -0000 Hi all, With apologies to those who are arriving by means other than Hiroshima Airport. > The bus ticket vending machines in the domestic terminal did not > seem to accept credit cards. However, there is a shop right next > to the vending machines that sells bus tickets and takes credit > cards. Just to reiterate this. If you are a bit dim, like me, and arrive at HIJ at 20:35 without any Yen, there are no cash machines and no money exchangers open. You will need to use a credit card to buy a bus ticket at the shop in the domestic arrivals terminal. This worked fine for me. The instructions on were crystal clear for walking from the bus stop. Where the bus pulls in, there is an escalator down to the road, turn right and walk down the street to the escalator. In the subway, walk around the curved wall and continue south. You will not miss the shrine mentioned in the walking directions. If you think you have missed it, you haven't reached it yet! It is on a major junction. Turn left at that and the ANA is next door. Arriving by night, you can also see the neon sign for the Sunroute on the right as you approach the shrine. I will just add that the bus I was on stops once before it reaches Hiroshima Bus Stop. If you see a supermarket called "Lawson," stay on the bus! You will know when you reach Hiroshima Bus Station as the bus takes a ramp up to the second floor (first floor for us Brits). Thanks to everyone that has contributed to the local guides! Now, to do a bit of exploration until Sunday. Nara looks interesting. Rob (at the ANA until Saturday, then the Sunroute for the meeting itself) From jmauch@us.ntt.net Tue Nov 3 05:59:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDA83A67FD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:59:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TP4gGZvDQciE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:59:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from puck.nether.net (puck.nether.net [IPv6:2001:418:3f4::5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF853A694E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:59:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:418:3f4:4:217:f2ff:fecf:8ee1] ([IPv6:2001:418:3f4:4:217:f2ff:fecf:8ee1]) (authenticated bits=0) by puck.nether.net (8.14.3/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nA3E0ZTu056747 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:00:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jmauch@us.ntt.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Jared Mauch In-Reply-To: <5FF61A24-665C-471B-8311-F98D7AA3078A@sfc.wide.ad.jp> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:00:03 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <60FA5E0A-A3CC-4C53-9A5E-F91A730B9FB8@us.ntt.net> References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEFD51.5050806@ripe.net> <5FF61A24-665C-471B-8311-F98D7AA3078A@sfc.wide.ad.jp> To: Rodney Van Meter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (puck.nether.net [IPv6:2001:418:3f4::5]); Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:00:37 -0500 (EST) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:59:47 -0000 On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Rodney Van Meter wrote: > At Narita Airport, you can change U.S. dollars for yen at booths > outside customs. The rate there is generally as good as you will > find anywhere. It is better for traveler's checks than cash, and > MUCH better than the rates at U.S. airports, which are often > usurious. I believe the rate for euros is less favorable than > dollars. I have found the exchange rate offered by my bank for utilizing my ATM card for Yen to be favorable. (Using Chase in US, 7-Bank/7-11 Japan). Usual caveat of call your bank and advise them of your travel plans so you do not find the transaction declined. I also have not been charged any ATM usage surcharge in the past. - Jared From Wesley.E.George@sprint.com Tue Nov 3 06:20:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E003A68E5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:20:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qyfSwE1tEczK for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:20:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from VA3EHSOBE002.bigfish.com (va3ehsobe002.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.180.12]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC59A3A67B1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail114-va3-R.bigfish.com (10.7.14.241) by VA3EHSOBE002.bigfish.com (10.7.40.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.240.5; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:20:29 +0000 Received: from mail114-va3 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail114-va3-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96F9AA80E3; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:20:29 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: -14 X-BigFish: VS-14(zz4015Lzz1202hzz5eeeTz2fh6bh87h43j62h) X-Spam-TCS-SCL: 1:0 X-FB-DOMAIN-IP-MATCH: fail Received: by mail114-va3 (MessageSwitch) id 1257257996798632_18864; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:19:56 +0000 (UCT) Received: from VA3EHSMHS032.bigfish.com (unknown [10.7.14.236]) by mail114-va3.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1AA91C8065; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:19:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdas1404.corp.sprint.com (144.229.32.13) by VA3EHSMHS032.bigfish.com (10.7.99.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.0.482.32; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:19:54 +0000 Received: from PLSWH01A.ad.sprint.com (PLSWH01A.corp.sprint.com [144.226.242.129]) by pdas1404.corp.sprint.com (Switch-3.3.2/Switch-3.3.2) with ESMTP id nA3EIT2V012294 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:18:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from PLSWM01C.ad.sprint.com ([144.226.242.77]) by PLSWH01A.ad.sprint.com ([2002:90e2:f281::90e2:f281]) with mapi; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:19:53 -0600 From: "George, Wes E [NTK]" To: Ole Jacobsen , Go Kawaguchi Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:19:51 -0600 Thread-Topic: Hiroden - last train? Thread-Index: AcpcbskpNIpiyengQv63gnbT3VYyqwAHT/Ow Message-ID: References: <41c05ea00911021737u220aa54y83885a81af7077ba@mail.gmail.com> <20091103.135449.103160457.kato@wide.ad.jp> <4AEFC375.60306@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Reverse-DNS: unknown Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: [76attendees] Hiroden - last train? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:20:12 -0000 I am coming into Hiroshima via Shinkasen after 10pm on Saturday. Am I reading the Hiroden info http://www.hiroden.co.jp/train/rosenzu/map/en= glish2.pdf correctly that the last train from JR Hiroshima station that wil= l get me to ANA Crowne Plaza departs at 22:18? Is a taxi my only option aft= er that? Thanks, Wes This e-mail may contain Sprint Nextel Company proprietary information inten= ded for the sole use of the recipient(s). Any use by others is prohibited. = If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete= all copies of the message. 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(192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p9sm394428fkb.19.2009.11.03.06.54.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Nov 2009 06:54:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF0442A.5080107@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:54:34 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Hoffmann References: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> <62E166D9-A075-4163-92DE-00A76CA0F562@nostrum.com> <4AEF5654.4070109@internetnz.net.nz> <30B9BC74-E3B3-4E17-9E98-FAF80E09BE19@nostrum.com> <4AEF88A1.3070901@mesh.ad.jp> <4AEFCDD8.9010000@gmail.com> <4c5c7a6d0911022322qd8b3ca3t34f8f214ab0fa4d6@mail.gmail.com> <20091103103238.GC20241@mlap.hq.telio.no> In-Reply-To: <20091103103238.GC20241@mlap.hq.telio.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:54:26 -0000 Hi Martin You might know, unfortunately, named Blue Train via Hiroshima Station is not available now, except seasonal ones. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Train_(Japan) So, if someone wants to get that train as an accommodation, should go to Himeji, Hyogo pref., next to Osaka to transfer it to normal one. Well, when someone wants to come to Hiroshima by bullet train(Shinkansen), if you could choose Hiroshima as a terminal station, it's a relief with deep sleep. There are some trains a day on weekday. http://www.shinkansen.co.jp/jikoku_hyo/en/sanyou/sdh_tokyo.html Also Saturday and Holiday by choosing tabs. Take care From: Martin Hoffmann Date: Tue Nov 03 2009 19:32:38 GMT+0900 > Ole Jacobsen wrote: >> By the time you get to/from the airports at either end and in time for >> regular check-in, you will have spent about the same time as just >> taking the train. Tokyo --> Hiroshima on a Nozomi is about 3:47 > > A suggestion for those who have an early flight back from Narita and > feel adventurous is the Sunrise Seto overnight train. You'd leave > Hiroshima at 21:50, change to the overnight at Himeji at half past > eleven, and arrive in Tokyo at 7 in the morning. > > Various types of accomodation are available: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunrise_Seto#Accommodations_and_fees > > With a Type B sleeping compartment, prizes should be at Nozomi level. > > Regards, > Martin From kouji@hiroshima-u.ac.jp Tue Nov 3 07:17:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7A628C0CF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:17:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bqQwKZxDXLv3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:16:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from cozy.net.hiroshima-u.ac.jp (cozy.net.hiroshima-u.ac.jp [133.41.10.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC523A67B0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:16:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (222.115.147.124.dy.bbexcite.jp [124.147.115.222]) (authenticated bits=0) by cozy.net.hiroshima-u.ac.jp (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id nA3FHEfj018648 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 4 Nov 2009 00:17:15 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:17:01 +0900 From: Kouji Nishimura To: "George, Wes E [NTK]" In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <20091104001700.6300.B601385A@hiroshima-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.52 [ja] Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hiroden - last train? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:17:00 -0000 Hi Wes, On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:19:51 -0600 "George, Wes E [NTK]" wrote: > I am coming into Hiroshima via Shinkasen after 10pm on Saturday. > > Am I reading the Hiroden info http://www.hiroden.co.jp/train/rosenzu/map/english2.pdf correctly that the last train from JR Hiroshima station that will get me to ANA Crowne Plaza departs at 22:18? Is a taxi my only option after that? Streeet-car #0(for Hiroden-mae) also takes you to ANA Crowne Plaza Hotel. ANA Crowne Plaza Hotel is on the way to Hiroden-mae. Get off the train at "Fukuromachi"(10th stop). # Fukuromachi is located between Kamiya-cho and Shiyakusho-mae. The Hiroden info seems little bit old. The correct time table after 22:00 is follows; Street-car # Departure time(Hiroshima Sta.) 1 22:04 1 22:18 * 0 22:33 0 22:49 0 23:04 * * indicates the last train for each line. Regards, Kouji Nishimura > Thanks, > Wes > > This e-mail may contain Sprint Nextel Company proprietary information intended for the sole use of the recipient(s). Any use by others is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies of the message. > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From peng.yang.chn@gmail.com Tue Nov 3 07:43:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766F63A6830 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:43:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dxH8y4pwmpSv for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:43:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE23B3A659B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:43:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by pwi4 with SMTP id 4so2721358pwi.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:43:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=N6B6OC470vMxHPF+vkE76dK12PCrhGmRAu9VhdyMugM=; b=ZgM78PALw/Y8d2hu6MwnxidHxG/CZVWa+QFlRTYjkNVBlIEbydY6gfI3myRLYQTbAV AqnWsyZ12hAtbko+AkifSMDzGgFhWv7G3OOAJw+KE2v9ZIqoOZUKARYRYZa6UANxjqMz JfXXPcBQaDtb5X07U0uE/ItYs1Xo2YCLE+DV0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=R2l8ZwcX/X33dxk0GFERSfPCP4FYcWD5nXWJB4gnmV8Z3KehWaCRRsmEPpP/tw+Owa tzZB3MWTOIEOs5RgZR4dutNXRw0JTRWeaSPL5kMp+Jz65SIjYa5jCeH1wKKvokSmPx4F yyGBL7O69L37rTDJvVQ30APXiVNXHRPJ0697g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.165.13 with SMTP id n13mr8462rve.3.1257263015523; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:43:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <60FA5E0A-A3CC-4C53-9A5E-F91A730B9FB8@us.ntt.net> References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEFD51.5050806@ripe.net> <5FF61A24-665C-471B-8311-F98D7AA3078A@sfc.wide.ad.jp> <60FA5E0A-A3CC-4C53-9A5E-F91A730B9FB8@us.ntt.net> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:43:35 +0800 Message-ID: <4c5c7a6d0911030743x61265283q575db1b928e9e29f@mail.gmail.com> From: Peny Yang To: Jared Mauch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:43:18 -0000 +1. I always use ATM of Bank-7 in 7-11 convenience store, everytime I go to Jap= an. Peny On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: > > On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Rodney Van Meter wrote: > >> At Narita Airport, you can change U.S. dollars for yen at booths outside >> customs. =A0The rate there is generally as good as you will find anywher= e. =A0It >> is better for traveler's checks than cash, and MUCH better than the rate= s at >> U.S. airports, which are often usurious. =A0I believe the rate for euros= is >> less favorable than dollars. > > I have found the exchange rate offered by my bank for utilizing my ATM ca= rd > for Yen to be favorable. =A0(Using Chase in US, 7-Bank/7-11 Japan). > > Usual caveat of call your bank and advise them of your travel plans so yo= u > do not find the transaction declined. =A0I also have not been charged any= ATM > usage surcharge in the past. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- Jared > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From gg55go@gmail.com Tue Nov 3 07:47:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0050228C0CF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:47:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.38 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.38 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.219, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7o4DTzsL4dqL for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609833A69B7 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so7756387bwz.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:47:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+F+tN3VRMT9vDUu/L8EbcVbDGm2p+PG4ZAr2nkmNliQ=; b=IH/MvGq9VD/0Tef577YBM9MPl0w9+T6DDighvK20OnakWpaOzglUjGJuzdMRg1ZhCy z4386wVOEqT7DQi5Cuy9ezJ3MtaFfM5fDK+ku6qTqVF2bF7ZhoSX+NHT7upQ5JcXIMGC 2tVZdWNKjQx+aUnU6Als46f+ZwHBlMKVTs+s8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Xq0ZBB2/heJ96U5wd9siRYDVxLtqDWhWACE1P6pfieqZr4moLr99cebCeDkC2O7brv EDQI1RcgRdh1oYlM1UeYXtyLxioOABA6SYjvOLEHyyf2kpLHkmCP1AXQ6h8Ivxlz00JZ 98vXQapF+ddp0WKHmgNHe6qrRGeRcOD1jCoMs= Received: by 10.204.24.69 with SMTP id u5mr171749bkb.1.1257263265307; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:47:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.25? (192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm511865fks.39.2009.11.03.07.47.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:47:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF0509A.3080909@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:47:38 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kouji Nishimura , "George, Wes E [NTK]" References: <20091104001700.6300.B601385A@hiroshima-u.ac.jp> In-Reply-To: <20091104001700.6300.B601385A@hiroshima-u.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hiroden - last train? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:47:29 -0000 Hi George, Nishimura-san From: Kouji Nishimura To: George, Wes E [NTK] Date: Wed Nov 04 2009 00:17:01 GMT+0900 > Hi Wes, > > On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:19:51 -0600 > "George, Wes E [NTK]" wrote: > >> I am coming into Hiroshima via Shinkasen after 10pm on Saturday. >> >> Am I reading the Hiroden info http://www.hiroden.co.jp/train/rosenzu/map/english2.pdf correctly that the last train from JR Hiroshima station that will get me to ANA Crowne Plaza departs at 22:18? Is a taxi my only option after that? > > Streeet-car #0(for Hiroden-mae) also takes you to ANA Crowne Plaza Hotel. > ANA Crowne Plaza Hotel is on the way to Hiroden-mae. > Get off the train at "Fukuromachi"(10th stop). > # Fukuromachi is located between Kamiya-cho and Shiyakusho-mae. I think so too. Hiroden-mae is on way of #1's terminal, Hiroshima Port. Pay attention to there are two ways of terminal Hiroshima Port. One of is via Hatchobori and Hiroden-mae. The other one is via Hijiyama-shita. Say "Hiroden-mae OK. No Hijiyama-shita" at Hiroshima street car's station. And if someone wants to get street cars via limousine from Hiroshima airport, see the info for at Hiroshima station FYI. http://www.marines.mil/unit/mcasiwakuni/Pages/welcome-aboard/travel/hiroshima.aspx The key point is "Underground Passage Entrance". If you lose the sign, you must be lost around Hiroshima station. But don't go to Iwakuni base like the info :-) GO From ole@cisco.com Tue Nov 3 08:16:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86583A68E3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:16:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.586 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.586 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.013, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tZp3nIeXV2SD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:16:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158413A65A6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:16:01 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAIzm70qrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbADHJIEaCAGIAwmOWIJUgWkE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,674,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="265500775" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 03 Nov 2009 16:16:21 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA3GGLB1026929; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:16:21 GMT Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:15:43 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "George, Wes E [NTK]" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <41c05ea00911021737u220aa54y83885a81af7077ba@mail.gmail.com> <20091103.135449.103160457.kato@wide.ad.jp> <4AEFC375.60306@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hiroden - last train? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:16:02 -0000 The ANA is only about 10 mins away by taxi. Should cost you no more than 1,000 yen. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Tue, 3 Nov 2009, George, Wes E [NTK] wrote: > I am coming into Hiroshima via Shinkasen after 10pm on Saturday. > > Am I reading the Hiroden info > http://www.hiroden.co.jp/train/rosenzu/map/english2.pdf correctly > that the last train from JR Hiroshima station that will get me to > ANA Crowne Plaza departs at 22:18? Is a taxi my only option after > that? > > Thanks, > Wes From gg55go@gmail.com Tue Nov 3 10:03:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CB828C139 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:03:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.404 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.404 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.195, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vdusZrEJkOIn for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:03:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3639828C148 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:03:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so7904859bwz.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:04:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CaTclIU+Cc4wA88buEeQqy5FpQumc1OQhCo3I8Gf1/w=; b=Ne3RLEXnZzq5nuFqlepuUkWC4G8cCvg5Oszvm/oYn9YsSgSRO4RDOaB5tJQVUs2kLQ 8sX/Lga9lpf63BLom6BdGOyHH1yeflDsskjgbSAEBlloyhfaj1nh+IzAI4OPRTFeRgOM t1ma5ckuOXn+cL33EhyFjAmtpe1sXnlKdC75E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZwYX8cRgW4Mfw4atJf0iENPjh53+Qi9UgKNeJApi9/YpcDz4u5dE6zNPOAKeUWaUWK V3pdv/R7UB0kfFkwvEfrifPAwjEbn/MTek4ou4uPYx7JHcIlegvowNJfEVBLLv4R0CM1 qFys/YDiOzXXPIbEwOYN9A2AdhTCXNyO1mo+s= Received: by 10.204.7.195 with SMTP id e3mr306038bke.118.1257271448582; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:04:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.25? (192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 35sm831308fkt.16.2009.11.03.10.04.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:04:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF0708F.9080105@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:03:59 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peny Yang References: <6c9fcc2a0911020725o6e5139d2l7d6c232f7432d83@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEFD51.5050806@ripe.net> <5FF61A24-665C-471B-8311-F98D7AA3078A@sfc.wide.ad.jp> <60FA5E0A-A3CC-4C53-9A5E-F91A730B9FB8@us.ntt.net> <4c5c7a6d0911030743x61265283q575db1b928e9e29f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4c5c7a6d0911030743x61265283q575db1b928e9e29f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:03:54 -0000 There are so many 7-11's in Japan. Try some http://www.sevenbank.co.jp/intlcard/index2.html GO From: Peny Yang To: Jared Mauch Date: Wed Nov 04 2009 00:43:35 GMT+0900 > +1. > > I always use ATM of Bank-7 in 7-11 convenience store, everytime I go to Japan. > > Peny > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: >> On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Rodney Van Meter wrote: >> >>> At Narita Airport, you can change U.S. dollars for yen at booths outside >>> customs. The rate there is generally as good as you will find anywhere. It >>> is better for traveler's checks than cash, and MUCH better than the rates at >>> U.S. airports, which are often usurious. I believe the rate for euros is >>> less favorable than dollars. >> I have found the exchange rate offered by my bank for utilizing my ATM card >> for Yen to be favorable. (Using Chase in US, 7-Bank/7-11 Japan). >> >> Usual caveat of call your bank and advise them of your travel plans so you >> do not find the transaction declined. I also have not been charged any ATM >> usage surcharge in the past. >> >> - Jared From dpquigl@tycho.nsa.gov Tue Nov 3 11:09:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4853A6814 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:09:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u5Ow8gPcsLIC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:09:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from msux-gh1-uea02.nsa.gov (msux-gh1-uea02.nsa.gov [63.239.67.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8978A3A63D3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:09:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from tarius.tycho.ncsc.mil (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msux-gh1-uea02.nsa.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id nA3JBLmg018818; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:11:21 GMT Received: from [144.51.25.2] (moss-terrapins [144.51.25.2]) by tarius.tycho.ncsc.mil (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nA3J9Gb0003248; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:09:16 -0500 From: "David P. Quigley" To: Scott Brim In-Reply-To: <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: National Security Agency Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:07:08 -0500 Message-Id: <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 (2.26.3-1.fc11) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part III X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:09:07 -0000 I have indoor shoes that I'll be bringing and they are kinda like sneakers except that the bottoms are completely flat with inset ridges on the bottom to give additional grip. I know people who play indoor in regular sneakers as well. I play a lot of indoor so it made sense for me to get special shoes for it and they cost a decent amount so I wouldn't suggest going out to get a pair of indoor boots unless you intend to use them often. Unfortunately I wasn't at Stockholm and I registered for this IETF a bit late so I didn't get the inital soccer email so I hope there is still room on the roster for another person. If it makes things easier I'm pretty much an indoor keeper so I wouldn't take up time for other people who want to run around the pitch. Dave On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 08:47 -0400, Scott Brim wrote: > JINMEI Tatuya / 神明é”哉 allegedly wrote on 10/30/2009 2:53 AM: > > I don't know > > what kind of shoes are allowed (at least use of "spike shoes" seems to > > be prohibited). > > I'm too old to play with you "youngsters" but I used to, and cleats > would be a bad idea. There are shoes designed for it. Sneakers are > tolerable as long as they are not built for jogging, with a wide bottom > -- you'll catch an edge and hurt your ankle. > > > One possible concern: doodle indicates 14 people have shown interest > > (for Thursday). Is a single futsal court sufficient for this size of > > group? My general understanding is that a futsal game is normally > > played by 10 player in the field and since it's pretty hard players > > are in/out frequently - so I think 14(-ish) are actually a good size > > of group, but if anyone familiar with futsal thinks it's too > > optimistic please point it out. > > My favorite way of handling this was to split into three teams and > rotate through frequently. A particular team is on the field for two > rotations, and thus plays both the others. > > You can also play six on a side. > > Scott > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From jinmei@isc.org Tue Nov 3 12:56:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A251E3A68B3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:56:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PnszfoDnTRS6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:56:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mon.jinmei.org (mon.jinmei.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:36::162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93ED23A6802 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:56:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from jmb.jinmei.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb:217:f2ff:fee0:a91f]) by mon.jinmei.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F168333C3A; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:57:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:57:05 -0800 Message-ID: From: JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= To: "David P. Quigley" In-Reply-To: <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/22.1 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org, Scott Brim Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part III X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:56:52 -0000 At Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:07:08 -0500, "David P. Quigley" wrote: > them often. Unfortunately I wasn't at Stockholm and I registered for > this IETF a bit late so I didn't get the inital soccer email so I hope > there is still room on the roster for another person. If it makes things > easier I'm pretty much an indoor keeper so I wouldn't take up time for > other people who want to run around the pitch. At the moment please update the doodle: http://www.doodle.com/xm4iewd7pbcn3nkp We have currently 16 on Thursday evening. I'm not sure how many we can accommodate for a single court, but if all the "OK" people show up (although I heard it wouldn't be the case, that is, there'll be last minute cancellation) I'm afraid we are almost full. --- JINMEI, Tatuya Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. From dpquigl@tycho.nsa.gov Tue Nov 3 13:36:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED853A6925 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:36:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s8guW9rIeC3O for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from msux-gh1-uea02.nsa.gov (msux-gh1-uea02.nsa.gov [63.239.67.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241003A6A50 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:36:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from tarius.tycho.ncsc.mil (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msux-gh1-uea02.nsa.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id nA3LcXN4015255; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:38:33 GMT Received: from [144.51.25.2] (moss-terrapins [144.51.25.2]) by tarius.tycho.ncsc.mil (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nA3LaVOi021388; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:36:31 -0500 From: "David P. Quigley" To: JINMEI Tatuya / =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A5=9E=E6=98=8E=E9=81=94=E5=93=89?= In-Reply-To: References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: National Security Agency Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:34:22 -0500 Message-Id: <1257284062.28994.42.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 (2.26.3-1.fc11) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org, Scott Brim Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part III X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:36:20 -0000 On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 12:57 -0800, JINMEI Tatuya / 神明é”哉 wrote: > At Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:07:08 -0500, > "David P. Quigley" wrote: > > > them often. Unfortunately I wasn't at Stockholm and I registered for > > this IETF a bit late so I didn't get the inital soccer email so I hope > > there is still room on the roster for another person. If it makes things > > easier I'm pretty much an indoor keeper so I wouldn't take up time for > > other people who want to run around the pitch. > > At the moment please update the doodle: > http://www.doodle.com/xm4iewd7pbcn3nkp > > We have currently 16 on Thursday evening. I'm not sure how many we > can accommodate for a single court, but if all the "OK" people show up > (although I heard it wouldn't be the case, that is, there'll be last > minute cancellation) I'm afraid we are almost full. > > --- > JINMEI, Tatuya > Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. I put my name on the doodle. I'll keep tabs on the email list to see if there is room. Dave From kato@wide.ad.jp Tue Nov 3 13:54:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2039C3A6808 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:54:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id geN8HKmMHDHD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164223A67A2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (unknown [IPv6:2001:240:5b:1:21f:3bff:fec6:73bd]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 07E327FDAF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 06:54:50 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE77E7D1D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 06:54:49 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:54:49 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091104.065449.146217704.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Akira Kato X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Japanese Dialog X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:54:32 -0000 Folks, For your convenience, some Japanese dialog pdf files are on-line: http://www.ietf76.jp/narita-jr.pdf http://www.ietf76.jp/kansai-jr.pdf http://www.ietf76.jp/hiroshima-taxi.pdf I'm afraid if you need to install Japanse fonts to your PDF printing environment to print them out on your non-Japanese printer. 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Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:19:50 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [135.70.95.25] Message-ID: <4AF0AC85.7030100@att.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:19:49 -0500 From: Tony Hansen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Akira Kato References: <20091104.065449.146217704.kato@wide.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: <20091104.065449.146217704.kato@wide.ad.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Japanese Dialog X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:19:48 -0000 very nice. Thanks! Akira Kato wrote: > Folks, > > For your convenience, some Japanese dialog pdf files are on-line: > > http://www.ietf76.jp/narita-jr.pdf > http://www.ietf76.jp/kansai-jr.pdf > http://www.ietf76.jp/hiroshima-taxi.pdf > > I'm afraid if you need to install Japanse fonts to your PDF printing > environment to print them out on your non-Japanese printer. You may > end up to print a screen copy in some cases. > > -- Akira Kato, leaving home to Hiroshima > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From arnoud@realtimetext.org Tue Nov 3 14:54:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04093A67E7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:54:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0HS3HZIgs4S1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:54:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx-in02.nouzelle.com (mx-in02.nouzelle.com [87.119.194.141]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F0B3A63EB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:54:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from internal02.nouzelle.com (unknown [172.29.32.13]) by mx-in02.nouzelle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2AF9B74A; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:55:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailscan.nouzelle.com (unknown [172.29.32.10]) by internal02.nouzelle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25879B715; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:55:13 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at nouzelle.com Received: from internal02.nouzelle.com ([172.29.32.13]) by mailscan.nouzelle.com (mailscan.nouzelle.com [172.29.32.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id qFFqM6qJNNz3; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:55:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from arnoud-van-wijks-macbook-pro.local (unknown [84.28.244.52]) by internal02.nouzelle.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D92F69B682; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:55:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AF0B4D0.5080904@realtimetext.org> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:55:12 +0100 From: Arnoud van Wijk Organization: R3TF User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Akira Kato References: <20091104.065449.146217704.kato@wide.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: <20091104.065449.146217704.kato@wide.ad.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Japanese Dialog X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: arnoud@realtimetext.org List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:54:55 -0000 Thank you. And do you have some text saying: I am Deaf. Not in the way of mute or so. But simply I cannot hear, I must lipread. But most native Asian speakers do not articulate if they speak english. And I am aware that when they realise it is my totally lack of good ears. It makes things easier. :-) I did learn (if not blurred by time) Watashi wa, mimi ga kikoemasen. It should mean: "I am deaf." or maybe saying I cannot hear my ears are bad.:-) Domo Arigato. Arnoud Akira Kato wrote: > Folks, > > For your convenience, some Japanese dialog pdf files are on-line: > > http://www.ietf76.jp/narita-jr.pdf > http://www.ietf76.jp/kansai-jr.pdf > http://www.ietf76.jp/hiroshima-taxi.pdf > > I'm afraid if you need to install Japanse fonts to your PDF printing > environment to print them out on your non-Japanese printer. You may > end up to print a screen copy in some cases. > > -- Akira Kato, leaving home to Hiroshima > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > From Mike.Mangino@alcatel-lucent.com Tue Nov 3 15:08:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D423A6778 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:08:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XzUToKlDPIHt for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from audl953.usa.alcatel.com (audl953.usa.alcatel.com [143.209.238.162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347923A63EB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from usdalsbhs01.ad3.ad.alcatel.com (usdalsbhs01.usa.alcatel.com [172.22.216.19]) by audl953.usa.alcatel.com (ALCANET) with ESMTP id nA3N913i028705; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:09:02 -0600 Received: from USDALSMBS01.ad3.ad.alcatel.com ([172.22.216.6]) by usdalsbhs01.ad3.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:09:01 -0600 Received: from USDALSMBS04.ad3.ad.alcatel.com ([172.22.216.10]) by USDALSMBS01.ad3.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:08:52 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:03:38 -0600 Message-ID: <91F87AB7EC28EA45B4F0C8677EBA358102A49DA9@USDALSMBS04.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> In-Reply-To: <20091104.065449.146217704.kato@wide.ad.jp> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Japanese Dialog Thread-Index: Acpc0EojQckAFy1rSpS9/sILaJJgCQACU0AQ References: <20091104.065449.146217704.kato@wide.ad.jp> From: "MANGINO Mike" To: "Akira Kato" , <76attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2009 23:08:52.0778 (UTC) FILETIME=[9C4390A0:01CA5CDA] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 143.209.238.34 Subject: Re: [76attendees] Japanese Dialog X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:08:43 -0000 Hopefully Akira San is giving us straight up instructions here. Otherwise we may all find ourselves trying to figure out why we are 50k from Hiroshima out of cash and with no ride back ;-)=20 See you in Hiroshima, I hope. Regards, Mike=20 -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Akira Kato Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:55 PM To: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] Japanese Dialog Folks, For your convenience, some Japanese dialog pdf files are on-line: http://www.ietf76.jp/narita-jr.pdf http://www.ietf76.jp/kansai-jr.pdf http://www.ietf76.jp/hiroshima-taxi.pdf I'm afraid if you need to install Japanse fonts to your PDF printing environment to print them out on your non-Japanese printer. You may end up to print a screen copy in some cases. -- Akira Kato, leaving home to Hiroshima _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From ole@cisco.com Tue Nov 3 15:13:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0D33A67F1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:13:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.587 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.587 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.012, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MvFArPA5r2vj for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:13:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E202A3A6778 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:13:50 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAAdI8EqrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbADHDoEaCAGIAwmOe4JUgWkEgWU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,676,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="424123553" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 03 Nov 2009 23:14:12 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA3NECgp019420; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:14:12 GMT Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:13:33 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: MANGINO Mike In-Reply-To: <91F87AB7EC28EA45B4F0C8677EBA358102A49DA9@USDALSMBS04.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> Message-ID: References: <20091104.065449.146217704.kato@wide.ad.jp> <91F87AB7EC28EA45B4F0C8677EBA358102A49DA9@USDALSMBS04.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Japanese Dialog X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:13:52 -0000 The text says "I confess to this long list of crimes, forego my right to a trial, please take me to prison immediately" ;-) Just kidding, see you in Hiroshima. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Tue, 3 Nov 2009, MANGINO Mike wrote: > > Hopefully Akira San is giving us straight up instructions here. > Otherwise we may all find ourselves trying to figure out why we are 50k > from Hiroshima out of cash and with no ride back ;-) > > See you in Hiroshima, I hope. > > > Regards, > > Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Akira Kato > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:55 PM > To: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [76attendees] Japanese Dialog > > Folks, > > For your convenience, some Japanese dialog pdf files are on-line: > > http://www.ietf76.jp/narita-jr.pdf > http://www.ietf76.jp/kansai-jr.pdf > http://www.ietf76.jp/hiroshima-taxi.pdf > > I'm afraid if you need to install Japanse fonts to your PDF printing > environment to print them out on your non-Japanese printer. You may end > up to print a screen copy in some cases. > > -- Akira Kato, leaving home to Hiroshima > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From dromasca@avaya.com Wed Nov 4 06:23:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF793A68B4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 06:23:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.478 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.478 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.121, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qoqQunWJdXhC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 06:23:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8625C3A6855 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 06:23:33 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,680,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="189156329" Received: from unknown (HELO nj300815-nj-erheast.avaya.com) ([198.152.6.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 04 Nov 2009 09:23:53 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.12]) by nj300815-nj-erheast-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 04 Nov 2009 09:23:53 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:23:43 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Meeting point at Narita? Thread-Index: AcpdWml3S6nBzOHZTfKhysBfPQm+2w== From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: [76attendees] Meeting point at Narita? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:23:34 -0000 Folks familiar with the Narita airport - can you recommend an appropriate meeting point in the airport for people traveling from Narita to Hiroshima who want to share the train travel experience? We could try to wear some IETF stuff (e.g. T-shirt) to try to ease mutual identification.=20 Do the majority of international flights arrive at Terminal 1.=20 I am arriving on Saturday morning from Vienna, my flight is scheduled to land at 9:30AM.=20 Dan From jmauch@us.ntt.net Wed Nov 4 06:35:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B5E3A68EC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 06:35:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lG1Boc4-4DPC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 06:35:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from puck.nether.net (puck.nether.net [IPv6:2001:418:3f4::5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42033A6852 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 06:35:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from rev-204-42-254-133.dhcp.nether.net (rev-204-42-254-133.dhcp.nether.net [204.42.254.133]) (authenticated bits=0) by puck.nether.net (8.14.3/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nA4EaBDK063430 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:36:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jmauch@us.ntt.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Jared Mauch In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:35:36 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (puck.nether.net [204.42.254.5]); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:36:15 -0500 (EST) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Meeting point at Narita? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:35:30 -0000 On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:23 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > Folks familiar with the Narita airport - can you recommend an > appropriate meeting point in the airport for people traveling from > Narita to Hiroshima who want to share the train travel experience? We > could try to wear some IETF stuff (e.g. T-shirt) to try to ease mutual > identification. > > Do the majority of international flights arrive at Terminal 1. > > I am arriving on Saturday morning from Vienna, my flight is > scheduled to > land at 9:30AM. I would suggest either meeting 1) At the NEX area, there is a starbucks there. 2) Right outside customs is a good meeting place - Jared From mirja.kuehlewind@ikr.uni-stuttgart.de Wed Nov 4 09:47:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918873A691D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:47:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.943 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.943 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.183, BAYES_05=-1.11, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tYm9gSuiT52i for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.ikr.uni-stuttgart.de (mailsrv.ikr.uni-stuttgart.de [129.69.170.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E423A68A8 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from netsrv1.ikr.uni-stuttgart.de (netsrv1-c [10.11.12.12]) by mailsrv.ikr.uni-stuttgart.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5FA439F4; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:48:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (inode21 [10.21.18.11]) by netsrv1.ikr.uni-stuttgart.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D198BC07E; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:48:08 +0100 (CET) From: Mirja Kuehlewind Organization: University of Stuttgart (Germany), IKR To: 76attendees@ietf.org Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:48:06 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 (enterprise35 0.20090731.1005176) References: In-Reply-To: X-KMail-QuotePrefix: > MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200911041848.06576.mirja.kuehlewind@ikr.uni-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Bouldering X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:47:48 -0000 I would be in. will bring my shoe... On Tuesday 03 November 2009 23:07:12 Jared Mauch wrote: > I am bringing my shoes along, please let me know if you are interested > in going to http://www.cero-climbing.com/ > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=3Dd&source=3Ds_d&saddr=3D%E5%BA%83%E5%B3%B6= %E5%B8%8 >2%E4%B8%AD%E5%8C%BA%E4%B8%AD%E7%94%BA7-20&daddr=3D%E5%BA%83%E5%B3%B6%E5%B8= %82% >E8%A5%BF%E5%8C%BA%E6%A8%AA%E5%B7%9D%E6%96%B0%E7%94%BA5-20&hl=3Den&geocode= =3D&mra >=3Dls&date=3D11%2F03%2F09&time=3D5:00pm&ttype=3Ddep&noexp=3D0&noal=3D0&sor= t=3Dtime&tline=3D& >sll=3D34.399191,132.459068&sspn=3D0.022733,0.030599&ie=3DUTF8&ll=3D34.3991= 55,132.449 >627&spn=3D0.022733,0.046949&z=3D15&start=3D0 > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------ Dipl.-Ing. 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X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:46:35 -0000 I am arriving at 19:00 on Saturday at Kansai (Osaka) airport on AA 5823 (also a JAL flight). Are there other people arriving then? Is there a good place to meet? Dale From Guang.Lu@InterDigital.com Wed Nov 4 11:55:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0227F3A6784 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:55:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.622 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.622 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.512, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jq2swaEV5V9S for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from idcout.InterDigital.com (idcexmail.interdigital.com [12.32.197.135]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045843A63D3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:55:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from interdigital.com ([10.0.128.11]) by idcout.InterDigital.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:55:53 -0500 Received: from SAM.InterDigital.com ([10.30.2.11]) by interdigital.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:55:21 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:55:18 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4AF02CC1.60107@nosc.ja.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel Thread-Index: Acpch6mBJkbQK+tiRZ+0VdJzAxHpDwA/6EkA References: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> <4AF02CC1.60107@nosc.ja.net> From: "Lu, Guang" To: <76attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2009 19:55:21.0807 (UTC) FILETIME=[BDFFBDF0:01CA5D88] Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:55:33 -0000 Hello all,=20 I need to take the shuttle bus from Hiroshima airport to Hiroshima bus center. The IETF guide says to buy the bus ticket at the vending machine. Is it possible to buy the ticket after we get on the bus? Our flight from Seoul touches down at 8:05pm. The last bus to Hiroshima bus center leaves at 9pm. It is pretty tight ...=20 Thanks for the information, Guang > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Rob Evans > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:15 AM > To: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > With apologies to those who are arriving by means other than Hiroshima > Airport. >=20 > > The bus ticket vending machines in the domestic terminal did not > > seem to accept credit cards. However, there is a shop right next > > to the vending machines that sells bus tickets and takes credit > > cards. >=20 > Just to reiterate this. If you are a bit dim, like me, and arrive at > HIJ at 20:35 without any Yen, there are no cash machines and no money > exchangers open. You will need to use a credit card to buy a bus > ticket > at the shop in the domestic arrivals terminal. This worked fine for > me. >=20 > The instructions on were > crystal clear for walking from the bus stop. Where the bus pulls in, > there is an escalator down to the road, turn right and walk down the > street to the escalator. In the subway, walk around the curved wall > and > continue south. >=20 > You will not miss the shrine mentioned in the walking directions. If > you think you have missed it, you haven't reached it yet! It is on a > major junction. Turn left at that and the ANA is next door. Arriving > by night, you can also see the neon sign for the Sunroute on the right > as you approach the shrine. >=20 > I will just add that the bus I was on stops once before it reaches > Hiroshima Bus Stop. If you see a supermarket called "Lawson," stay on > the bus! You will know when you reach Hiroshima Bus Station as the bus > takes a ramp up to the second floor (first floor for us Brits). >=20 > Thanks to everyone that has contributed to the local guides! >=20 > Now, to do a bit of exploration until Sunday. Nara looks interesting. >=20 > Rob (at the ANA until Saturday, then the Sunroute for the meeting > itself) > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From ole@cisco.com Wed Nov 4 12:06:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C0F3A67DD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:06:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.587 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.587 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.012, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8sJOjdS7YHN9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:06:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77FF3A63D3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:06:27 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An4HAP5s8UqrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbACCf8QrgRoIAYgDCY5PglSBaQSBZQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,682,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="424878391" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 04 Nov 2009 20:06:49 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA4K6nJS021401; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:06:49 GMT Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:06:11 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Meeting point at Narita? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:06:28 -0000 ***** NOTE WELL: There are TWO (2) international terminals at Narita with about an "equal spread" of airlines distributed between the two. British Airways, for example, lands at Terminal 2, United Airlines lands at Terminal 1. There are similar facilities (JR station, JR travel center, bus counter, ATMs, cellphone rental, etc) in BOTH terminals. There is a yellow shuttle bus that loops between the terminals. More info at http://www.ietf76.jp/ and http://hiroshima-info.info and the links provided in both. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > Folks familiar with the Narita airport - can you recommend an > appropriate meeting point in the airport for people traveling from > Narita to Hiroshima who want to share the train travel experience? We > could try to wear some IETF stuff (e.g. T-shirt) to try to ease mutual > identification. > > Do the majority of international flights arrive at Terminal 1. > > I am arriving on Saturday morning from Vienna, my flight is scheduled to > land at 9:30AM. > > Dan > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From ole@cisco.com Wed Nov 4 12:09:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7AF3A6A0B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:09:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.587 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.587 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.012, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10KJYfKPsYVV for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:09:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019D43A6A09 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:09:09 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAPRt8UqrR7H+/2dsb2JhbADHMIEaCAGIAwmOT4JUgWkE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,682,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="266284986" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 04 Nov 2009 20:09:30 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA4K9Vtm001605; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:09:31 GMT Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:08:52 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Meeting point at Narita? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:09:10 -0000 Well, OK, things change, so here is the full list: http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/guide/t_info/index_t1.html http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/guide/t_info/index_t2.html Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From kato@wide.ad.jp Wed Nov 4 14:51:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B163A6A30 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:51:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x0czs0SVAAn3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:51:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3112D3A6A0C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:51:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (p5012-ipbfp403niho.hiroshima.ocn.ne.jp [123.223.213.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3348F7FDA8; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:51:37 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C4DE7D1D; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:51:36 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:51:36 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091105.075136.246940181.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: Guang.Lu@InterDigital.com From: Akira Kato In-Reply-To: References: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org> <4AF02CC1.60107@nosc.ja.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:51:23 -0000 > Is it possible to buy the ticket after we get on the bus? Our flight > from Seoul touches down at 8:05pm. The last bus to Hiroshima bus > center leaves at 9pm. It is pretty tight ... The last bus for Hiroshima bus center departs at 9:20pm, and you have enough time to buy a ticket unless the flight delays. If the bus is about to depart, talk to the driver first. Usually the driver requires a passenger to buy a ticket, but he may accept the fare by cash or he may give you another one minute to buy your ticket while the staff manages your luggage. When you miss the last bus to the bus center unfortunately, take the very last bus to JR Hiroshima station which departs at 9:40pm, and then take a taxi to your hotel. Have a safe trip (and your flights will be on-time) -- Akira Kato From gg55go@gmail.com Wed Nov 4 16:03:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7722C28C160 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:03:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.494 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.494 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.754, BAYES_20=-0.74] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MkE6+BHtjmrh for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:03:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f192.google.com (mail-yx0-f192.google.com [209.85.210.192]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035E328C158 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:03:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so8075712yxe.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:03:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t0xh32mK5q9DmDkYowruIYTYM17Fm+77nyvHk1O8onk=; b=EEr56GJfOKJe2l3VD8mWvtJRkpY8pYFfUkfC4kwNmeNQezbnJRsTqu1RsanV5Vk2S8 shMgpT7S7Ppl76F5QmYb/exAa6xZde4l7SEwuGX8hEW5+Bada7rjAVIepfMZMR6Gi/wy ltVQD/YJkK+Q6VtcEJ2+VagCywiXIllUh8Op8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ItyVfant4fo/Sd5ExL5DLco32RAcSTVkNlOadYh7RwZXDuYXUNNXUaiyS6otWgtwq1 ifqx//NzwSoW1wlfx5EoVjDZW8uezJOrjImI4crB6jleKb4a+HbrrnGm5GAsnYV5bsHj 9uAw6xFSfz5i4D4BOJ5iXxfWlkmAuneflE0V4= Received: by 10.91.141.6 with SMTP id t6mr4587350agn.49.1257379425360; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:03:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.25? (192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm698895yxb.7.2009.11.04.16.03.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:03:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:03:35 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JINMEI Tatuya References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part III X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:03:29 -0000 Hello Jinmei-san From: JINMEI Tatuya Date: Wed Nov 04 2009 05:57:05 GMT+0900 > We have currently 16 on Thursday evening. I'm not sure how many we > can accommodate for a single court, but if all the "OK" people show up > (although I heard it wouldn't be the case, that is, there'll be last > minute cancellation) I'm afraid we are almost full. Isn't below the quotation useful to obtain fulsal courts? I hope so. Go Kawaguchi Subject: Soccer, part IV From: Go Kawaguchi To: 76attendees@ietf.org Date: Tue Nov 03 2009 19:51:40 GMT+0900 > Hi freaks > > Let me know soccer or futsal event. > > There are several grounds playing futsal in Hiroshima. > > Mizuno Futsal Plaza Hiroshima > http://www.mfpnet.com/14hrs/14hrs.html > 4-16-7 Kan-on-Shinmachi Nishi-ku Hiroshima-city > (next to Marina hop in Kan-on) > > This seems good. > Fee: > from 19:00 to 23:00, 11,550 yen / hour > Vacancy: > from 19:00 to 22:00 on 8th through 12th seems vacancy. > Check it out on the Japanese page. > > And nobody doesn't worry about shoes. > We can rent them by 315 yen per day. > Training wears over and under as well by 315 yen per day, > means you don't have to wash your clothes. > > I have played fulsal there several times. > > > Other grounds' info. > Only Japanese sites are available to see. > > Pivox Hiroshima > http://pivox.funnavi.com/ > 21-10 Moto-Ujina-cho Minami-ku Hiroshima-city > > Mizuno Futsal Plaza Kure > 3-2-9 Ohhama Tennou Kure-city > http://www.mfpnet.com/17kre/17kre.html > > Green Field > http://www.suncherry-sports.jp/green-field/ > 1-2-1 Jigozen-mae-kita Hatsukaichi-city > > > GO From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Wed Nov 4 16:41:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42AED3A6833 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:41:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.475 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.475 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.029, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9mEH75C7JTKm for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D573A69A5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [75.101.18.87] (75-101-30-90.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [75.101.30.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nA50gFLG013342 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:42:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:42:14 -0800 To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [76attendees] International phone cards? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:41:56 -0000 Greetings again. Is there advice on good/bad international phone cards for calling from Hiroshima to the US? I have an international card that will cost me about US$0.25/min, but I suspect there may local cards that cost less. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium From gen@mozilla.com Wed Nov 4 16:49:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4173A682B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:49:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.11 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i-tE86xiX7kx for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:48:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.mozilla.com (mail.mozilla.com [63.245.208.167]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E583A679F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:48:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.mozilla.com (mail.mozilla.com [10.2.72.15]) by mail.mozilla.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0875121005A; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:49:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:49:10 -0800 (PST) From: Gen Kanai To: Paul Hoffman Message-ID: <2445465.39491257382150558.JavaMail.root@cm-mail02.mozilla.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [60.34.117.145] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.19_GA_3084.RHEL4 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF3 (Mac)/5.0.19_GA_3084.RHEL4) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] International phone cards? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:49:01 -0000 I have never used one myself (I have a Vonage box that I use in Tokyo to have a 212-area code number in Japan) but Brastel is widely used for overseas calling from Japan. http://www.brastel.com/top/general.html You can get this card or others like it at any convenience store in Japan. Gen Kanai ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hoffman" To: 76attendees@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2009 9:42:14 AM GMT +09:00 Japan Subject: [76attendees] International phone cards? Greetings again. Is there advice on good/bad international phone cards for calling from Hiroshima to the US? I have an international card that will cost me about US$0.25/min, but I suspect there may local cards that cost less. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From plovell@mac.com Wed Nov 4 16:57:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5913A6A4B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:57:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m0r1-hiXU7Y6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:57:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtpout016.mac.com (asmtpout016.mac.com [17.148.16.91]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641063A679F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:57:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.4.98] (dsl092-149-198.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.149.198]) by asmtp016.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KSM002LU2NWKB60@asmtp016.mac.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:57:34 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Lovell To: Paul Hoffman , 76attendees@ietf.org Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:57:31 -0500 Message-id: <20091105005731.1373480069@smtp.mac.com> In-reply-to: References: X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 6.0.3 build 4609 English (intel) Subject: Re: [76attendees] International phone cards? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:57:13 -0000 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009, Paul Hoffman wrote: >Greetings again. Is there advice on good/bad international phone cards >for calling from Hiroshima to the US? I have an international card that >will cost me about US$0.25/min, but I suspect there may local cards that >cost less. > >--Paul Hoffman, Director >--VPN Consortium My plan for calls back to U.S. is to use Skype. It's only a couple of cents a minute to call a regular phone, to a computer is free. I've not used it to/from Japan but to Europe and Australia has been fine. Regards.....Peter From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Wed Nov 4 17:38:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099E63A6848 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:38:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.748 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.748 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.298, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pIU4bqKB+EuQ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF4B3A681F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:38:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [75.101.18.87] (75-101-30-90.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [75.101.30.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nA51cSXU015903 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:38:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2445465.39491257382150558.JavaMail.root@cm-mail02.mozilla.org> References: <2445465.39491257382150558.JavaMail.root@cm-mail02.mozilla.org> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:38:26 -0800 To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [76attendees] International phone cards? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:38:09 -0000 At 4:49 PM -0800 11/4/09, Gen Kanai wrote: >I have never used one myself (I have a Vonage box that I use in Tokyo to have a 212-area code number in Japan) but Brastel is widely used for overseas calling from Japan. > >http://www.brastel.com/top/general.html > >You can get this card or others like it at any convenience store in Japan. Yeeps, that's twice as much as my nobelcom.com card! And, yes, I will consider Skype, but I have had bad luck with it in the past. Glad to hear that many people are doing better with it these days. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium From eburger@standardstrack.com Wed Nov 4 17:51:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2D63A6842 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:51:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dxEjHR0C33La for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:51:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from gs19.inmotionhosting.com (gs19b.inmotionhosting.com [66.117.3.189]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB99F3A6833 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:51:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from c-67-169-75-102.hsd1.ca.comcast.net ([67.169.75.102] helo=[192.168.1.7]) by gs19.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N5rVt-0004qW-2M; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:51:49 -0800 Message-Id: From: Eric Burger To: Dale Worley In-Reply-To: <1257363980.3776.54.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:51:52 -0800 References: <1257363980.3776.54.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs19.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Meeting at Kansai airport? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:51:35 -0000 For me, I get into KIX at 1700 on Saturday from SFO. Likewise, anyone getting in around then? On Nov 4, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Dale Worley wrote: > I am arriving at 19:00 on Saturday at Kansai (Osaka) airport on AA > 5823 > (also a JAL flight). Are there other people arriving then? Is > there a > good place to meet? > > Dale > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From randy@psg.com Wed Nov 4 18:49:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7EB28C0ED for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:49:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.59 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.59 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.009, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Uqqd36y6BeGi for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:49:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D96428C101 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:49:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip67-91-170-251.z170-91-67.customer.algx.net ([67.91.170.251] helo=rmac.local) by ran.psg.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1N5sPz-0004dt-MH; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:49:47 +0000 Message-ID: <4AF23D4A.9060305@psg.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:49:46 -0600 From: Randy Bush User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Lovell References: <20091105005731.1373480069@smtp.mac.com> In-Reply-To: <20091105005731.1373480069@smtp.mac.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] International phone cards? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:49:32 -0000 > My plan for calls back to U.S. is to use Skype. i use it on a daily basis from tokyo, i imagine it will work just as well from hiroshima. randy From Dvorshak@ISOC.org Wed Nov 4 19:09:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C183A6912 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:09:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.500, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dnYGWNmE6qjj for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:09:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp161.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp161.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.161]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7827C3A6847 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:09:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3A51F16CF99; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:09:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: dvorshak-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 27DEB16CF6F; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:09:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Drew Dvorshak" To: "'Randy Bush'" , "'Peter Lovell'" References: <20091105005731.1373480069@smtp.mac.com> <4AF23D4A.9060305@psg.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:09:43 -0500 Message-ID: <8B5D657CE50041CA86CFB195EFB39C4F@ISOC.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4AF23D4A.9060305@psg.com> Thread-Index: Acpdwqldbb4B3XPdSVqDvDhcqiaqQgAAgAtg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] International phone cards? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:09:24 -0000 Absolutely! I thought phone cards were a measure for the people that we = are all working hard to provide quality and consistent Internet access for. BTW- Skype is an ISOC member supporting the work of the IETF and ISOC's other work to preserve the free and open Internet based on the = end-to-end principle! You can feel good about Skyping! Before buying a phone = card, ask the same question of the company offering it ;^) Andrew Dvorshak Sr. Mgr., Organizational Membership Internet Society (ISOC) 1775 Wiehle Ave., Ste. 201 Reston, VA 20910-5108 USA =A0 dvorshak@isoc.org Office: +1 703 439 2129 Fax: +1 703 326 9881 -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf Of Randy Bush Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:50 PM To: Peter Lovell Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] International phone cards? > My plan for calls back to U.S. is to use Skype. i use it on a daily basis from tokyo, i imagine it will work just as well from hiroshima. randy _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From richard.barnes@gmail.com Wed Nov 4 19:17:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4063A690A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:17:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XJCf8aVKnPrI for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:17:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0129E3A67E6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:17:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so9682563bwz.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:17:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/GQdnrWQKx/7fEhxSIHz6XOIxuKfH3xRMG01mrlu1ug=; b=nn8i+CzM7KXerbUnY/SeGLrguffd+9lyeA23DwVVLEyNIG/da0Ybjbg8j0WKpaFnpC h2bi+PXsl4qgxxTVbXttWJ/HsCmxOCGeYjsunF9eHdv9EpG30PoNEY61BnudZelxhgOl u1iCYaFCO7UGUtb1dzMlirWZkq4ZYmHLnP7Ko= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JpE7vrX1nryuwLEdk74kDd3LdBnS7eq8N4TxlgGmVKfJ7pH6GjaIaW2ydn9aZBfvQI bshxHcEnFiBrPP+M93nintAZwP6zbrOtp+dpcfFWLdRggdX86AkF/V9DPpbNAuLX+f6+ fEVQ0ds6aVmIL8kk7euFkli3Rtf6xsx3bhfxI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.4.144 with SMTP id 16mr228380bkr.116.1257391074855; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:17:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8B5D657CE50041CA86CFB195EFB39C4F@ISOC.local> References: <20091105005731.1373480069@smtp.mac.com> <4AF23D4A.9060305@psg.com> <8B5D657CE50041CA86CFB195EFB39C4F@ISOC.local> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:17:54 +0800 Message-ID: <88ac5c710911041917pf6b56e2i263cf757b5c5d06@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Barnes To: Drew Dvorshak Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] International phone cards? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:17:39 -0000 In order to absolve the IETF purists of their guilt, maybe the IETF should provide a SIP-to-Skype gateway: On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Drew Dvorshak wrote: > Absolutely! =A0I thought phone cards were a measure for the people that w= e are > all working hard to provide quality and consistent Internet access for. > BTW- Skype is an ISOC member supporting the work of the IETF and ISOC's > other work to preserve the free and open Internet based on the end-to-end > principle! =A0You can feel good about Skyping! =A0Before buying a phone c= ard, > ask the same question of the company offering it ;^) > > Andrew Dvorshak > Sr. Mgr., Organizational Membership > Internet Society (ISOC) > 1775 Wiehle Ave., Ste. 201 > Reston, VA 20910-5108 > USA > > dvorshak@isoc.org > Office: +1 703 439 2129 > Fax: +1 703 326 9881 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = On > Behalf Of Randy Bush > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:50 PM > To: Peter Lovell > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] International phone cards? > >> My plan for calls back to U.S. is to use Skype. > > i use it on a daily basis from tokyo, =A0i imagine it will work just as > well from hiroshima. > > randy > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From hassanzaheer@gmail.com Wed Nov 4 21:11:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F83228C0FA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:11:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wCfdi9rZTtHB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:11:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vw0-f193.google.com (mail-vw0-f193.google.com [209.85.212.193]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E917E28C0E6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:11:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by vws31 with SMTP id 31so2390661vws.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:12:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XhjGRd7C1GnDNJcnB2iE8U3QMGF45/t3MDxMjMA+0ts=; b=iXLCsqphmel8RZRq19x9WHadHxTJ/f6YA46zbqnFwHfWleu3p9JkG5heq0OtY0E2xC MzJeihMTtSsyc2MZB/Wxk7y99wfVXQhFT/pCJKKZVkXfr3VP+vipxuxGD66uJAoF9v8O 01eoi1p1Fxxg/dI+zdoZkRrstKUmADYs5i43E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Iay1buv5u2FKMqS7FP8L6NwoMpVGXekuXbosa5/6TxvfAFzTIjKDMf829NwJDhJq+L Yw5KXGTznmL05ySuPyi94R3XRneXyTOquywmhtNo/IZCROpzSH6eMuEkeb6LHky1/ji/ e3Mgk0b0qib1vpyHSGGkT6Msg4H3LrUvKvj3w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.123.2 with SMTP id n2mr2756332vcr.71.1257397921607; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:12:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1257363980.3776.54.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:12:01 +0500 Message-ID: <79611dc80911042112t60579468q271515c2a7e9477d@mail.gmail.com> From: Hassan Zaheer To: Eric Burger Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636920c13756f59047798c4f3 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Meeting at Kansai airport? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:11:46 -0000 --001636920c13756f59047798c4f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm arriving at 19:00 on Friday 6 Nov from Thai Airways TG 620 Subramanian when are you arriving? Regards On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Eric Burger wrote: > For me, I get into KIX at 1700 on Saturday from SFO. Likewise, anyone > getting in around then? > > > On Nov 4, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Dale Worley wrote: > > I am arriving at 19:00 on Saturday at Kansai (Osaka) airport on AA 5823 >> (also a JAL flight). Are there other people arriving then? Is there a >> good place to meet? >> >> Dale >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > -- -- Hassan Zaheer Manager IP Core Worldcall Telecom Ltd. --001636920c13756f59047798c4f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm arriving at 19:00 on Friday 6 Nov from Thai Airways TG 620

S= ubramanian when are you arriving?

Regards


On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Eric Burger &= lt;eburger@standardstrack.com= > wrote:
For me, I get int= o KIX at 1700 on Saturday from SFO. Likewise, anyone getting in around then= ?


On Nov 4, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Dale Worley wrote:

I am arriving at 19:00 on Saturday at Kansai (Osaka) airport on AA 5823
(also a JAL flight). =A0Are there other people arriving then? =A0Is there a=
good place to meet?

Dale


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--001636920c13756f59047798c4f3-- From richard.barnes@gmail.com Wed Nov 4 21:13:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011FA28C0FA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:13:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zUE8lUnoLx83 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:13:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC16F28C0E6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:13:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so9738404bwz.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:14:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=pmonA3kNzK0grwTSlQ08YUkuzoeFUbJ1XEkRltAQb2Y=; b=tssxcsY4NzQA10T4VCkvG6wfpM2bbdznFyHqoPQEGipQKWA8nstT7bypZWhH1NMzmw 4fpn4X/xYYCfro1m4xLsomT4VjsL55xlj7muWD5DpTUATmy98vhk3kzKXPN/3qlL+Ekm 5S1N2/yZ9u8R+9iXfrGgt/CeNY1gyaL7W4UsQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=tVfLEBMsroh5t3Xx2mxTR7oDQxoHJjiGtjRhb90kVSbuQ7q1k6Nq7r4t8pd19iQwIU ovIOYc739PHhRejyUWTBUAY0M8C5MNWrbvpBfH5xD7VtuuHX59oZlZfWd25aoGpRKAdN hOz0v9pcB5aPil0QnKgTpVK8P9mopXEVwLUb8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.7.153 with SMTP id d25mr2505397bkd.70.1257398040133; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:14:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:14:00 +0800 Message-ID: <88ac5c710911042114u1604194bo511745608baefe20@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Barnes To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [76attendees] T-shirt printing? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:13:52 -0000 Hey all, I'm looking for a place that can make some T-shirts and get them to HIJ in time to wear on the Thursday morning of IETF week. Anyone know a place that could get this done? --Richard From ben@nostrum.com Wed Nov 4 21:46:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B8928C13C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:46:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VB8iQiC+CVUL for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:46:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6473428C0E6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:46:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.8] (adsl-68-94-40-237.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [68.94.40.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA55lAAE016309 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 23:47:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) From: Ben Campbell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 23:47:05 -0600 Message-Id: <18E4BA40-2116-4F33-8F2E-5A2D230466D8@nostrum.com> To: 76attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 68.94.40.237 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: [76attendees] Connecting in NRT X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:46:58 -0000 I'm flying AA from DFW to NRT arriving terminal 2, then connecting to HIJ via ANA (operated by Ibex) departing terminal 1. Has anyone done this recently? What was the process? I understand I will have to go through C&I on arrival at NRT--do they recheck bags there, or will I need to carry them to terminal 1 domestic checkin to recheck? Anyone know the carry-on limits for the ANA/Ibex flight? Thanks! Ben. From myousaf@ymail.com Wed Nov 4 22:51:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4A23A6A61 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:51:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.739 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.739 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bzb51c6YRkIE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:51:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from web65312.mail.ac2.yahoo.com (web65312.mail.ac2.yahoo.com [68.180.158.238]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5484A3A682F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:51:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 58510 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Nov 2009 06:51:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s1024; t=1257403886; bh=Qb80C+VXakuofvzt4TEy84BPtBhP2xejy+Ml9cAsRgE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XVIeSyJziGFNAu+S9SuVxrHqNqngjvEkHBeaqOKBjzpTEcQ6+9e5KcN/nWAUFt1/86sxtI11NfeuGXXm9G2QFT8Dch6ct/PhxHxgQa5aUcoGeOdPnZR2WqYvADrDMKDSjvx1A/BYHPp3QNh49T+5NEUY4PgHUxNANV6/NcrTIYw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=ymail.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=d9oDK3l0AecIWyM/f4pRu/huknx/QxJLHNQTbOnx27jGI3vOcD25r1I24dAB5DwWpu1CMLVj9Od5km1P8j0+p0pdT3k+ou/BeGJfzWhCyH1AuRi2NFDjFcFtTyJ+tsCBPEfzKhmzZWDpK/FJLNV2seYID7J2cEoVad1h7vP4Xtg=; Message-ID: <982569.51467.qm@web65312.mail.ac2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: B9uCJRoVM1nnKVm6jXK53mTlDYDYI.0U.U5oMwv4VYArr7twgU6FMnUdRaKA4wPzci498b98jVLuk9FP5RK3IXIl.Fnxhtj.Anv0Y7KqFp2Zu0X1E8vP8vTfbrsM.31A9WWkSWRTyQTVhv68cu4MeBjZbMArW.kWCeunmYqGALzmeImcEaryS3VVpRmMpu65wBZMvwVhGEOKPuihMjg3xNdxjh9wpqdrIionXgCaQOZ4lV03z5ZyRJNGTGnKQuQgN6pWit1MuFUo37necVur20J10FXnPpy3KFSUwoD9SrLd8TefljXY.CWI1xyP3IOl50lBTzkZo1P0wHDXVuvnrKjWfA3woclj.43.TF1I7FPEH3BZnr8qUTVOAKgiYD5mdneuIoG7ScQZ6tIi1xA0v75rlhZa_3qhLdCJVCPYjxG1AJR14iwMkIJaT22yoTfPvKuuwJo- Received: from [115.186.130.57] by web65312.mail.ac2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:51:26 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:51:26 -0800 (PST) From: Muhammad Yousaf To: Eric Burger , Hassan Zaheer In-Reply-To: <79611dc80911042112t60579468q271515c2a7e9477d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1416881896-1257403886=:51467" Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Meeting at Kansai airport? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:51:07 -0000 --0-1416881896-1257403886=:51467 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I'm also arriving at Kansai Airport Osaka on Saturday Nov.7 at 19:00. My fl= ight is TG-620 Thai Airways. Then via train to Hiroshima.=20 Dear Dale we can meet at Kansai Airport. Anyone else travelling through TG-620 (Bangkok to Kansai) and TG-350 (Islam= abad to Bangkok)?? Sir Zartash! I wish you share these flights.=20 Muhammad Yousaf, Center of Research in Networks and Telecom (CoReNeT) http://corenet.jinnah.edu.pk/ --- On Thu, 11/5/09, Hassan Zaheer wrote: From: Hassan Zaheer Subject: Re: [76attendees] Meeting at Kansai airport? To: "Eric Burger" Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 10:12 AM I'm arriving at 19:00 on Friday 6 Nov from Thai Airways TG 620 Subramanian when are you arriving? Regards On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Eric Burger wr= ote: =0AFor me, I get into KIX at 1700 on Saturday from SFO. Likewise, anyone ge= tting in around then?=0A =0A =0AOn Nov 4, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Dale Worley wrote: =0A =0A=0AI am arriving at 19:00 on Saturday at Kansai (Osaka) airport on AA 58= 23 =0A(also a JAL flight). =A0Are there other people arriving then? =A0Is ther= e a =0Agood place to meet? =0A =0ADale =0A =0A =0A_______________________________________________ =0A76attendees mailing list =0A76attendees@ietf.org =0Ahttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees =0A=0A =0A_______________________________________________ =0A76attendees mailing list =0A76attendees@ietf.org =0Ahttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees =0A --=20 --=20 Hassan Zaheer Manager IP Core =20 Worldcall Telecom Ltd.=20 =0A -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees =0A=0A=0A --0-1416881896-1257403886=:51467 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1416881896-1257403886=:51467-- From kato@wide.ad.jp Thu Nov 5 01:36:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE733A68BF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 01:36:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g5FfatoZhj5I for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 01:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813693A67EF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 01:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:6:21f:3bff:fec6:73bd]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 34E3D7FDB2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:36:25 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900DCE7D1D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:36:24 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:36:24 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091105.183624.134447176.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Akira Kato In-Reply-To: <18E4BA40-2116-4F33-8F2E-5A2D230466D8@nostrum.com> References: <18E4BA40-2116-4F33-8F2E-5A2D230466D8@nostrum.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Connecting in NRT X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:36:04 -0000 > I'm flying AA from DFW to NRT arriving terminal 2, then connecting to > HIJ via ANA (operated by Ibex) departing terminal 1. > Has anyone done this recently? What was the process? I understand I > will have to go through C&I on arrival at NRT--do they recheck bags > there, or will I need to carry them to terminal 1 domestic checkin to > recheck? Anyone know the carry-on limits for the ANA/Ibex flight? I called ANA and found that there is no baggage re-check facility in the terminal-2. You need to board the free connecting bus outside of the terminal building with your lagguages. The bus departs bus depot #8 (north side) and #18 (south side) of terminal-2. The bus arrives at bus depot #6 (center) of terminal-1, and the domestic check-in counters are in the arrival level (don't go up to 4F; they are on 1F), at the soutern end (left side after you enter the terminal building) of terminal-1. The connecting bus is colored in yellow and departure intervai is as follows: 06:30 -- 07:30 every 20min 07:30 -- 09:00 every 10min 09:00 -- 19:30 every 7min 19:30 -- 20:00 every 10min 20:00 -- 22:00 every 20min -- Akira Kato From R.Jesske@telekom.de Thu Nov 5 01:38:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB883A68BF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 01:38:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.32 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.32 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.930, BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kb9+Km49eCpK for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 01:38:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from tcmail33.telekom.de (tcmail33.telekom.de [194.25.30.7]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C29423A67EF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 01:38:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from s4de8psaans.blf.telekom.de (HELO s4de8psaans.mitte.t-com.de) ([10.151.180.168]) by tcmail31.telekom.de with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2009 10:38:11 +0100 Received: from S4DE8PSAAQB.mitte.t-com.de ([10.151.229.13]) by s4de8psaans.mitte.t-com.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:38:10 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:38:09 +0100 Message-ID: <9886E5FCA6D76549A3011068483A4BD405319679@S4DE8PSAAQB.mitte.t-com.de> In-Reply-To: <20091104001700.6300.B601385A@hiroshima-u.ac.jp> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Karate Dojo Thread-Index: AcpcmMaYGHeJ2u+fThm/1QIggiCXbQBYnZPA References: <20091104001700.6300.B601385A@hiroshima-u.ac.jp> From: To: <76attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2009 09:38:11.0003 (UTC) FILETIME=[B05538B0:01CA5DFB] Subject: [76attendees] Karate Dojo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:38:02 -0000 Hi, This is a specific question for our Japanese friends living in Hiroshima. Is there a Karate Dojo near by the hotel where the chance would be to train original Japan Karate? BR Roland From shida@ntt-at.com Thu Nov 5 04:04:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2B43A69B3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:04:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.945 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.945 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.320, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tGeeVs3Hy+51 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:04:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateway03.websitewelcome.com (gateway03.websitewelcome.com [69.93.216.26]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CACA43A69B2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30787 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2009 12:16:18 -0000 Received: from gator465.hostgator.com (69.56.174.130) by gateway03.websitewelcome.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2009 12:16:18 -0000 Received: from fl1-122-135-49-232.tky.mesh.ad.jp ([122.135.49.232]:65526 helo=[192.168.1.4]) by gator465.hostgator.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N614l-0002dO-RF; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:04:28 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Shida Schubert In-Reply-To: <9886E5FCA6D76549A3011068483A4BD405319679@S4DE8PSAAQB.mitte.t-com.de> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:04:27 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1D5AE544-9731-4189-8AC5-381EE4333C50@ntt-at.com> References: <20091104001700.6300.B601385A@hiroshima-u.ac.jp> <9886E5FCA6D76549A3011068483A4BD405319679@S4DE8PSAAQB.mitte.t-com.de> To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator465.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ntt-at.com Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Karate Dojo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:04:08 -0000 What kind of Karate are you interested in? Shoto-kan? Kyokushin? Goju-ryu? Do you want to spar? Or just practice without any sparring etc. Regards Shida On Nov 5, 2009, at 6:38 PM, wrote: > Hi, > This is a specific question for our Japanese friends living in > Hiroshima. > Is there a Karate Dojo near by the hotel where the chance would be to > train original Japan Karate? > > BR > > Roland > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From ben@nostrum.com Thu Nov 5 04:24:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8E33A68B5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:24:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bN+310UA3cRP for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:24:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FA43A687D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:24:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.8] (adsl-68-94-40-237.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [68.94.40.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA5COc1t056168 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:24:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed From: Ben Campbell In-Reply-To: <20091105.183624.134447176.kato@wide.ad.jp> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:24:32 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <295929EE-4F97-4A69-9720-34139654A298@nostrum.com> References: <18E4BA40-2116-4F33-8F2E-5A2D230466D8@nostrum.com> <20091105.183624.134447176.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: Akira Kato X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 68.94.40.237 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Connecting in NRT X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:24:19 -0000 Wow, thank you for the info! On Nov 5, 2009, at 3:36 AM, Akira Kato wrote: > >> I'm flying AA from DFW to NRT arriving terminal 2, then connecting to >> HIJ via ANA (operated by Ibex) departing terminal 1. > >> Has anyone done this recently? What was the process? I understand I >> will have to go through C&I on arrival at NRT--do they recheck bags >> there, or will I need to carry them to terminal 1 domestic checkin to >> recheck? Anyone know the carry-on limits for the ANA/Ibex flight? > > I called ANA and found that there is no baggage re-check facility in > the terminal-2. You need to board the free connecting bus outside of > the terminal building with your lagguages. The bus departs bus depot > #8 (north side) and #18 (south side) of terminal-2. The bus arrives at > bus depot #6 (center) of terminal-1, and the domestic check-in > counters are in the arrival level (don't go up to 4F; they are on 1F), > at the soutern end (left side after you enter the terminal building) > of terminal-1. > > The connecting bus is colored in yellow and departure intervai is > as follows: > 06:30 -- 07:30 every 20min > 07:30 -- 09:00 every 10min > 09:00 -- 19:30 every 7min > 19:30 -- 20:00 every 10min > 20:00 -- 22:00 every 20min > > -- Akira Kato > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From R.Jesske@telekom.de Thu Nov 5 04:34:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DAF3A6AA7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:34:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.784 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.784 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.465, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TN9b9e6q5ENA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:34:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from tcmail33.telekom.de (tcmail33.telekom.de [194.25.30.7]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDB93A6AA8 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from s4de8psaans.blf.telekom.de (HELO s4de8psaans.mitte.t-com.de) ([10.151.180.168]) by tcmail31.telekom.de with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2009 13:34:14 +0100 Received: from S4DE8PSAAQB.mitte.t-com.de ([10.151.229.13]) by s4de8psaans.mitte.t-com.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:34:14 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:34:12 +0100 Message-ID: <9886E5FCA6D76549A3011068483A4BD4053197C4@S4DE8PSAAQB.mitte.t-com.de> In-Reply-To: <1D5AE544-9731-4189-8AC5-381EE4333C50@ntt-at.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Karate Dojo Thread-Index: AcpeECum1z93/zN4S7m4jZc54dqBVAAAp/CQ References: <20091104001700.6300.B601385A@hiroshima-u.ac.jp><9886E5FCA6D76549A3011068483A4BD405319679@S4DE8PSAAQB.mitte.t-com.de> <1D5AE544-9731-4189-8AC5-381EE4333C50@ntt-at.com> From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2009 12:34:14.0096 (UTC) FILETIME=[486D4D00:01CA5E14] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Karate Dojo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:34:01 -0000 Hi Shida, I'm looking for traditional Shotokan Karate. So Kihon and Kata are my = main interests. I would like to see how training is within a Japanese = Karate Do. And to get a chance of one training unit within such a Dojo = and see how Karate is lived within Japan. That is my interest. I know how it is within Germany but to see an Japanese Sensei in action = would be great. Best Regards Roland =20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = Im Auftrag von Shida Schubert Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. November 2009 13:04 An: Jesske, Roland Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Betreff: Re: [76attendees] Karate Dojo What kind of Karate are you interested in? Shoto-kan? Kyokushin? Goju-ryu? Do you want to spar? Or just practice without any sparring etc. Regards Shida On Nov 5, 2009, at 6:38 PM, =20 wrote: > Hi, > This is a specific question for our Japanese friends living in > Hiroshima. > Is there a Karate Dojo near by the hotel where the chance would be to > train original Japan Karate? > > BR > > Roland > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Thu Nov 5 04:35:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AD83A67C2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:35:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.219 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.219 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.030, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Js3e-1XJ6GFt for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:35:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw5.ericsson.se (mailgw5.ericsson.se [193.180.251.36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B83B3A6804 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:34:59 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb24-b7b12ae000007bda-60-4af2c6883bbc Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw5.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id EB.2E.31706.886C2FA4; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:35:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw113.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.200.4]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:35:20 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:35:19 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9886E5FCA6D76549A3011068483A4BD4053197C4@S4DE8PSAAQB.mitte.t-com.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Karate Dojo thread-index: AcpeECum1z93/zN4S7m4jZc54dqBVAAAp/CQAABmFGA= References: <20091104001700.6300.B601385A@hiroshima-u.ac.jp><9886E5FCA6D76549A3011068483A4BD405319679@S4DE8PSAAQB.mitte.t-com.de><1D5AE544-9731-4189-8AC5-381EE4333C50@ntt-at.com> <9886E5FCA6D76549A3011068483A4BD4053197C4@S4DE8PSAAQB.mitte.t-com.de> From: "Christer Holmberg" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2009 12:35:20.0072 (UTC) FILETIME=[6FC07080:01CA5E14] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Karate Dojo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:35:00 -0000 Karate you can practise in any dark alley, anywhere in the world. Why = not try Sumo instead? :)=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of R.Jesske@telekom.de > Sent: 5. marraskuuta 2009 14:34 > To: shida@ntt-at.com > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] Karate Dojo >=20 > Hi Shida, > I'm looking for traditional Shotokan Karate. So Kihon and=20 > Kata are my main interests. I would like to see how training=20 > is within a Japanese Karate Do. And to get a chance of one=20 > training unit within such a Dojo and see how Karate is lived=20 > within Japan. > That is my interest. > I know how it is within Germany but to see an Japanese Sensei=20 > in action would be great. >=20 > Best Regards >=20 > Roland >=20 > =20 >=20 > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von Shida Schubert > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. November 2009 13:04 > An: Jesske, Roland > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Betreff: Re: [76attendees] Karate Dojo >=20 >=20 > What kind of Karate are you interested in? >=20 > Shoto-kan? Kyokushin? Goju-ryu? >=20 > Do you want to spar? Or just practice without any sparring etc. >=20 > Regards > Shida >=20 > On Nov 5, 2009, at 6:38 PM, =20 > wrote: >=20 > > Hi, > > This is a specific question for our Japanese friends living in=20 > > Hiroshima. > > Is there a Karate Dojo near by the hotel where the chance=20 > would be to=20 > > train original Japan Karate? > > > > BR > > > > Roland > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >=20 From shida@ntt-at.com Thu Nov 5 05:30:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119023A67EA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:30:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.003 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.003 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.262, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z9lW9aU1bJIa for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateway15.websitewelcome.com (gateway15.websitewelcome.com [69.93.35.7]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 42CCE3A67DA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 28618 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2009 13:43:45 -0000 Received: from gator465.hostgator.com (69.56.174.130) by gateway15.websitewelcome.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2009 13:43:45 -0000 Received: from fl1-122-135-49-232.tky.mesh.ad.jp ([122.135.49.232]:49713 helo=[192.168.1.4]) by gator465.hostgator.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N62Pp-0007vb-UE; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:30:18 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Shida Schubert In-Reply-To: <9886E5FCA6D76549A3011068483A4BD4053197C4@S4DE8PSAAQB.mitte.t-com.de> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:30:17 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20091104001700.6300.B601385A@hiroshima-u.ac.jp><9886E5FCA6D76549A3011068483A4BD405319679@S4DE8PSAAQB.mitte.t-com.de> <1D5AE544-9731-4189-8AC5-381EE4333C50@ntt-at.com> <9886E5FCA6D76549A3011068483A4BD4053197C4@S4DE8PSAAQB.mitte.t-com.de> To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator465.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ntt-at.com Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Karate Dojo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:30:00 -0000 Roland, There is a Kyokushin Karate very close to the venue.. http://tinyurl.com/ycrpxyz There is one place where people get together to practice Shotokan Karate but it will take you about 30 minutes to get to from the hotel. Regards Shida On Nov 5, 2009, at 9:34 PM, wrote: > Hi Shida, > I'm looking for traditional Shotokan Karate. So Kihon and Kata are =20 > my main interests. I would like to see how training is within a =20 > Japanese Karate Do. And to get a chance of one training unit within =20= > such a Dojo and see how Karate is lived within Japan. > That is my interest. > I know how it is within Germany but to see an Japanese Sensei in =20 > action would be great. > > Best Regards > > Roland > > > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-=20 > bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von Shida Schubert > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. November 2009 13:04 > An: Jesske, Roland > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Betreff: Re: [76attendees] Karate Dojo > > > What kind of Karate are you interested in? > > Shoto-kan? Kyokushin? Goju-ryu? > > Do you want to spar? Or just practice without any > sparring etc. > > Regards > Shida > > On Nov 5, 2009, at 6:38 PM, > wrote: > >> Hi, >> This is a specific question for our Japanese friends living in >> Hiroshima. >> Is there a Karate Dojo near by the hotel where the chance would be to >> train original Japan Karate? >> >> BR >> >> Roland >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From R.Jesske@telekom.de Thu Nov 5 05:50:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D653A685A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:50:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.939 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.939 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.310, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EYvbmLg5HWBx for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:50:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from tcmail33.telekom.de (tcmail33.telekom.de [194.25.30.7]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EB43A67C1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:50:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from s4de8psaanq.blf.telekom.de (HELO S4DE8PSAANQ.mitte.t-com.de) ([10.151.180.166]) by tcmail31.telekom.de with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2009 14:50:41 +0100 Received: from S4DE8PSAAQB.mitte.t-com.de ([10.151.229.13]) by S4DE8PSAANQ.mitte.t-com.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:50:41 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:50:39 +0100 Message-ID: <9886E5FCA6D76549A3011068483A4BD40531987F@S4DE8PSAAQB.mitte.t-com.de> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: AW: [76attendees] Karate Dojo Thread-Index: AcpeHCY3LY+CPcGsSPOLCMbNtXGiqwAArmoQ References: <20091104001700.6300.B601385A@hiroshima-u.ac.jp><9886E5FCA6D76549A3011068483A4BD405319679@S4DE8PSAAQB.mitte.t-com.de> <1D5AE544-9731-4189-8AC5-381EE4333C50@ntt-at.com> <9886E5FCA6D76549A3011068483A4BD4053197C4@S4DE8PSAAQB.mitte.t-com.de> From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2009 13:50:41.0400 (UTC) FILETIME=[F6AC5780:01CA5E1E] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Karate Dojo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:50:33 -0000 Shida I would like to take the 30 minutes ride to get there.=20 Regards Roland -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Shida Schubert [mailto:shida@ntt-at.com]=20 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. November 2009 14:30 An: Jesske, Roland Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Betreff: Re: AW: [76attendees] Karate Dojo Roland, There is a Kyokushin Karate very close to the venue.. http://tinyurl.com/ycrpxyz There is one place where people get together to practice Shotokan Karate but it will take you about 30 minutes to get to from the hotel. Regards Shida On Nov 5, 2009, at 9:34 PM, wrote: > Hi Shida, > I'm looking for traditional Shotokan Karate. So Kihon and Kata are =20 > my main interests. I would like to see how training is within a =20 > Japanese Karate Do. And to get a chance of one training unit within =20 > such a Dojo and see how Karate is lived within Japan. > That is my interest. > I know how it is within Germany but to see an Japanese Sensei in =20 > action would be great. > > Best Regards > > Roland > > > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-=20 > bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von Shida Schubert > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. November 2009 13:04 > An: Jesske, Roland > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Betreff: Re: [76attendees] Karate Dojo > > > What kind of Karate are you interested in? > > Shoto-kan? Kyokushin? Goju-ryu? > > Do you want to spar? Or just practice without any > sparring etc. > > Regards > Shida > > On Nov 5, 2009, at 6:38 PM, > wrote: > >> Hi, >> This is a specific question for our Japanese friends living in >> Hiroshima. >> Is there a Karate Dojo near by the hotel where the chance would be to >> train original Japan Karate? >> >> BR >> >> Roland >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From Guang.Lu@InterDigital.com Thu Nov 5 06:51:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637163A6AD0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:51:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.31 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.31 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.289, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F5JQWLZ0xHgj for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:51:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from idcout.InterDigital.com (idcexmail.interdigital.com [12.32.197.135]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868793A68F1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:51:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from interdigital.com ([10.0.128.11]) by idcout.InterDigital.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:51:48 -0500 Received: from SAM.InterDigital.com ([10.30.2.11]) by interdigital.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:51:39 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:51:37 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20091105.075136.246940181.kato@wide.ad.jp> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel Thread-Index: AcpdoV/0tGUkCPkLShunzixZRN3i9wAhd/SA References: <20091102084546.GC301@rvdp.org><4AF02CC1.60107@nosc.ja.net> <20091105.075136.246940181.kato@wide.ad.jp> From: "Lu, Guang" To: <76attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2009 14:51:39.0564 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B1BDEC0:01CA5E27] Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:51:27 -0000 Thanks Akira Kato and Rob for the helpful information! > -----Original Message----- > From: Akira Kato [mailto:kato@wide.ad.jp] > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:52 PM > To: Lu, Guang > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel >=20 >=20 > > Is it possible to buy the ticket after we get on the bus? Our flight > > from Seoul touches down at 8:05pm. The last bus to Hiroshima bus > > center leaves at 9pm. It is pretty tight ... >=20 > The last bus for Hiroshima bus center departs at 9:20pm, and you have > enough time to buy a ticket unless the flight delays. If the bus is > about to depart, talk to the driver first. Usually the driver requires > a passenger to buy a ticket, but he may accept the fare by cash or he > may give you another one minute to buy your ticket while the staff > manages your luggage. >=20 > When you miss the last bus to the bus center unfortunately, take the > very last bus to JR Hiroshima station which departs at 9:40pm, and > then take a taxi to your hotel. >=20 > Have a safe trip (and your flights will be on-time) >=20 > -- Akira Kato >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From rvdp@rvdp.org Thu Nov 5 07:54:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92C228C1F3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:54:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.587 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.587 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FAKE_REPLY_C=2.012] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9ZCxtj+Nyn41 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:54:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from kirk.rvdp.org (kirk.rvdp.org [IPv6:2001:610:108:87::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8B828C1F0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:54:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from kirk.rvdp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kirk.rvdp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA5FsnL5013955; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:54:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rvdp@kirk.rvdp.org) Received: (from rvdp@localhost) by kirk.rvdp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nA5FsmlE013954; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:54:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rvdp) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:54:44 +0900 From: Ronald van der Pol To: "Lu, Guang" Message-ID: <20091105155443.GE822@rvdp.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n+lFg1Zro7sl44OB" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] transport from Hiroshima airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:54:29 -0000 --n+lFg1Zro7sl44OB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 20:55:18 +0100, Lu, Guang wrote: > Hello all,=20 >=20 > I need to take the shuttle bus from Hiroshima airport to Hiroshima bus > center. The IETF guide says to buy the bus ticket at the vending > machine. Is it possible to buy the ticket after we get on the bus? Our > flight from Seoul touches down at 8:05pm. The last bus to Hiroshima bus > center leaves at 9pm. It is pretty tight ...=20 >=20 > Thanks for the information, > Guang Guang, I did this last week. My flight from Seoul was delayed by more than an hour. However, I was able to still get a bus to the bus center at 21:50. Apparently, they still run busses sometimes for delayed international flights. So if you think you missed the last bus, hang around at the bus stop for a while. There might still be a bus going. Also, entry procedures at Hirshima airport are quick. I went through immigration, customs and baggage reclaim in about 15 minutes. rvdp --n+lFg1Zro7sl44OB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkry9UMACgkQQKieiDfP4G5UjwCgk85nf9gXKGsaK265O5Atvr6j 8v0An0NPhtl0ODoa4OXNPIUDulGlet0m =eUry -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n+lFg1Zro7sl44OB-- From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Thu Nov 5 08:35:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74A33A68F7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:35:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.557 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.557 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xU64hjPXAtCY for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:35:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.sri.com (newmail.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B293A67D9 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:35:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [192.168.2.13] ([unknown] [72.68.71.162]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KSN009G0A4A34F0@mail.sri.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:36:10 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <4AF2FEFE.3000009@sri.com> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:36:14 -0500 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] Saturday Night in Tokyo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:35:49 -0000 I will be arriving Saturday afternoon at Narita, staying in Tokyo (Hotel b ochanomizu - downtown near station) and continuing to Hiroshima via train Sunday morning. Anyone with similar plans interested in meeting in Tokyo for dinner Saturday night? -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com From kpfleming@digium.com Thu Nov 5 08:44:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C143A67E4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:44:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.172 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.172 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.354, BAYES_05=-1.11, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bduY32mlq+Vn for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:44:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.digium.com (mail.digium.com [216.207.245.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FFB3A63EB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:44:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiler.digium.internal ([10.19.29.150] helo=jupiler.digium.com) by mail.digium.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N65SB-0008Pz-MX for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:44:55 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A625629E0003 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:44:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from jupiler.digium.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jupiler.digium.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MHVVjXeLBKlL for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:44:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.24.250.46] (unknown [10.24.250.46]) (Authenticated sender: kpfleming) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2935829E0001 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:44:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4AF30104.8080200@digium.com> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:44:52 -0600 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" Organization: Digium, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <4AF2FEFE.3000009@sri.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF2FEFE.3000009@sri.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=05FB8DB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Saturday Night in Tokyo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:44:37 -0000 Ed Jankiewicz wrote: > I will be arriving Saturday afternoon at Narita, staying in Tokyo (Hotel > b ochanomizu - downtown near station) and continuing to Hiroshima via > train Sunday morning. Anyone with similar plans interested in meeting > in Tokyo for dinner Saturday night? Yes! I will be arriving at Narita just before 4PM, taking the NEX to Shinagawa station, and checking in to the Hotel Sunroute Shinagawa Seaside... with possibly one more person making the same trip if illness does not preclude it. I would like to get to Hiroshima early enough on Sunday to make the newcomers' session (since this is my first IETF), but I can survive without that. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org From dworley@nortel.com Thu Nov 5 08:50:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8993A6AE1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:50:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.574 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.574 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1WJeXpPxxcXT for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:50:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from zrtps0kp.nortel.com (zrtps0kp.nortel.com [47.140.192.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98013A6806 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:50:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com (zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com [47.140.202.46]) by zrtps0kp.nortel.com (Switch-2.2.6/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id nA5Gp3106192 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:51:03 GMT Received: from [47.16.90.165] ([47.16.90.165]) by zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:51:00 -0500 From: "Dale Worley" To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Nortel Networks Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:51:00 -0500 Message-Id: <1257439860.3738.10.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-5.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2009 16:51:01.0067 (UTC) FILETIME=[27B281B0:01CA5E38] Subject: [76attendees] How to pronounce "Hiroshima" X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:50:47 -0000 I was once in Japan long ago, and one of the few things I remember about Japanese is that the pronunciation of "Hiroshima" is much different than it is in English. In (Standard American) English, it is pronounced "hi roe SHEE ma", but in Japanese (IIRC) it is closer to "hi ROE shi ma". Also, that "R" is a "flap r", much like the single "r" in Spanish. It sounds a lot like "t" to this American ear. (It is actually the same as the "t" in "butter" in Standard American English pronunciation.) Dale From gregory.ietf@gmail.com Thu Nov 5 09:41:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536563A696F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:41:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.814 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.814 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.166, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dhfv77T31XTT for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:41:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B863A69A0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:41:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so241622bwz.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:41:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:x-mailer:date:to :from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type; bh=pJ+Meml9o30MvX6689J+Xb8gJa3+qjFGdThC9RJ+7Wo=; b=UGIcbCJ+zN54c7lTQZKihyG1i/h8oCIOm+Vy4DqjBV+x1cVq+C5bMKZgmzdQlGdlYk 3G3ZZyfJ2AksOrpKGJC1pX7ZzBgr0W3+Iq0LZZ369biXcbikBOhJ9oPYMrPYm83W6GgF jqNSxa7JtGR6WXOtS6j5q52I7dbafoSCjNjtA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:x-mailer:date:to:from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type; b=b6bMoD38yt94eR0suWAAwB7YwH/KjSZOqHke/qfSFw5G5mb9Y9FprTr4AugoA/DjjI QS1FGZFP32cYdnL/833xm5iGPlGiEJG7Q9/zP4ryXDBFRoMgku8h0dtR9Y+5k/otdQVI UsCrC+bgVJSWf5IqQ/MLO7vro1Shl55veYaVo= Received: by 10.204.154.209 with SMTP id p17mr3282044bkw.104.1257442915214; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from Gregory-T60.gmail.com ([58.187.113.237]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm771168bwz.2.2009.11.05.09.41.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:41:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4af30e61.0d1abc0a.50b7.5f37@mx.google.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:39:52 -0800 To: JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= , "David P. Quigley" From: "Gregory M. Lebovitz" In-Reply-To: References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Scott Brim , 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part III X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:41:39 -0000 At 12:57 PM 11/3/2009, JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= wrote: >At Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:07:08 -0500, >"David P. Quigley" wrote: > > > them often. Unfortunately I wasn't at Stockholm and I registered for > > this IETF a bit late so I didn't get the inital soccer email so I hope > > there is still room on the roster for another person. If it makes things > > easier I'm pretty much an indoor keeper so I wouldn't take up time for > > other people who want to run around the pitch. > >At the moment please update the doodle: >http://www.doodle.com/xm4iewd7pbcn3nkp > >We have currently 16 on Thursday evening. I'm not sure how many we >can accommodate for a single court, but if all the "OK" people show up >(although I heard it wouldn't be the case, that is, there'll be last >minute cancellation) I'm afraid we are almost full. I filled out the doodle. Thur works for me. I have to be on stage for IAB Q&A until 19:30, so says the calendar. Then again, people haven't been wanting to ask the IAB questions at the past few IETFs, so maybe we'll get out early. I'll plan to come immediately following the tech plenary. Gregory. >--- >JINMEI, Tatuya >Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. >_______________________________________________ >76attendees mailing list >76attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From gregory.ietf@gmail.com Thu Nov 5 10:12:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E576528C110 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:12:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.885 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.885 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.095, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w88HYGOeqnpL for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C445B28C214 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:12:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 25so76457eya.51 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:12:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:x-mailer:date:to :from:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type; bh=sq6T+aIFS37e2ylVd78X5nLZdVDQP4TuSBglMx54dtQ=; b=Ghl2g4b6KhvmfPqCFP15v8ic8VSIJJvsWTxzGYwnHzxki15I0GolhGH6+Mn5YXzsUo eXpaSr4xVloojPuHd5Q8yM5pYZUAly1V6C4iOQpB6qKpsD+kxUrnvVub3aoKtYFh1Lyo 8yXwJdNxhID7DSv9UWv4O6/Z/gEmwjrjfVur8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:x-mailer:date:to:from:subject:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type; b=qn+zkVJJJFKqh0CwtOb1VL1suuLle7jnJFYoJ8QfGOqMu2OcdTal914+MYKUwthPd7 BX6OVoOy1MMXORArVStR+L+UE+QOHkBP1Auw8ShASCsxhorU+VzfkpFdO7PvmHVVCBo/ 4sYu9MthTQSEiTR1TF89j3+pjWoytSqdouEOY= Received: by 10.216.93.6 with SMTP id k6mr1086622wef.89.1257444767651; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:12:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from Gregory-T60.gmail.com ([58.187.113.237]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i34sm2072733gve.8.2009.11.05.10.12.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:12:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4af3159e.22a0100a.56d7.ffffd01f@mx.google.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:12:38 -0800 To: Go Kawaguchi ,76attendees@ietf.org From: "Gregory M. Lebovitz" In-Reply-To: <4AF00B3C.6090102@gmail.com> References: <4AF00B3C.6090102@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part IV X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:12:32 -0000 Futsal works fine for me. I'll play either. In other words, whatever you guys decide, count me in. Gregory. At 02:51 AM 11/3/2009, Go Kawaguchi wrote: >Hi freaks > >Let me know soccer or futsal event. > >There are several grounds playing futsal in Hiroshima. > >Mizuno Futsal Plaza Hiroshima >http://www.mfpnet.com/14hrs/14hrs.html >4-16-7 Kan-on-Shinmachi Nishi-ku Hiroshima-city >(next to Marina hop in Kan-on) > >This seems good. >Fee: >from 19:00 to 23:00, 11,550 yen / hour >Vacancy: >from 19:00 to 22:00 on 8th through 12th seems vacancy. >Check it out on the Japanese page. > >And nobody doesn't worry about shoes. >We can rent them by 315 yen per day. >Training wears over and under as well by 315 yen per day, >means you don't have to wash your clothes. > >I have played fulsal there several times. > > >Other grounds' info. >Only Japanese sites are available to see. > >Pivox Hiroshima >http://pivox.funnavi.com/ >21-10 Moto-Ujina-cho Minami-ku Hiroshima-city > >Mizuno Futsal Plaza Kure >3-2-9 Ohhama Tennou Kure-city >http://www.mfpnet.com/17kre/17kre.html > >Green Field >http://www.suncherry-sports.jp/green-field/ >1-2-1 Jigozen-mae-kita Hatsukaichi-city > > >GO >_______________________________________________ >76attendees mailing list >76attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From gregory.ietf@gmail.com Thu Nov 5 10:15:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B68A3A6B46 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:15:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.083, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UWUlEUCVpmd7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:15:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431F428C0E1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:15:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 25so77028eya.51 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:15:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:x-mailer:date:to :from:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type; bh=XadewfLSxLmEnzYP0vDfnO8nL/Xd2gM1VvEmDwu8PNM=; b=XfC9rlPbYuFV6ynUlNOhs+hbvmp1TbbptHwvz57U/0gPJ+vdp5J5T5jqmnQHmyMADp IkFA1C9qsqOmRN7VM7kdDo+7s/8V77DzI7pYEI9iTohWL077eE4fvrUuQ+T6C9caqJRD /le4ZsaLpKSRqLRYbNjGWRVhFT4Eg4Yfg9FB0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:x-mailer:date:to:from:subject:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type; b=U8wUsD9wxug8ii7PoNX4zeHx2fHK8NoWfUEfNW7aOl8lNhNM1FSYkq4xgOo8jvZKjr eULz8MAfALU2atrZcjBzfxyzm/dA+9MPBjnSJiK/6CmTD5sRH5tfBA/R+c/fXTpx9wbd Dql/2/yrmG747K86aW/6blSfcFlXLXHvgHkfI= Received: by 10.216.93.1 with SMTP id k1mr997469wef.151.1257444928348; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:15:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from Gregory-T60.gmail.com ([58.187.113.237]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u14sm1969274gvf.3.2009.11.05.10.15.25 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:15:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4af3163f.0ec5100a.235c.ffffb469@mx.google.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:15:19 -0800 To: "Dale Worley" ,76attendees@ietf.org From: "Gregory M. Lebovitz" In-Reply-To: <1257439860.3738.10.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> References: <1257439860.3738.10.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: [76attendees] How to pronounce "Hiroshima" X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:15:10 -0000 At 08:51 AM 11/5/2009, Dale Worley wrote: >I was once in Japan long ago, and one of the few things I remember about >Japanese is that the pronunciation of "Hiroshima" is much different than >it is in English. In (Standard American) English, it is pronounced "hi >roe SHEE ma", but in Japanese (IIRC) it is closer to "hi ROE shi ma". Is it [hi ROE shi ma] or [hee ROW shee ma]? >Also, that "R" is a "flap r", much like the single "r" in Spanish. It >sounds a lot like "t" to this American ear. (It is actually the same as >the "t" in "butter" in Standard American English pronunciation.) Very helpful. Much appreciated, Gregory. >Dale > > >_______________________________________________ >76attendees mailing list >76attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From dworley@nortel.com Thu Nov 5 10:42:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70053A6B4E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:42:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.576 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.576 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HbFXFiQ9C9v6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:42:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from zcars04e.nortel.com (zcars04e.nortel.com [47.129.242.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD3A3A68E0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com (casmtp.ca.nortel.com [47.140.202.46]) by zcars04e.nortel.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id nA5IgRf14286; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:42:27 GMT Received: from [47.16.90.165] ([47.16.90.165]) by zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:42:26 -0500 From: "Dale Worley" To: "Gregory M. Lebovitz" In-Reply-To: <4af3163f.0ec5100a.235c.ffffb469@mx.google.com> References: <1257439860.3738.10.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <4af3163f.0ec5100a.235c.ffffb469@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Nortel Networks Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:42:26 -0500 Message-Id: <1257446546.3738.22.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-5.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2009 18:42:26.0942 (UTC) FILETIME=[B8CA11E0:01CA5E47] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] How to pronounce "Hiroshima" X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:42:10 -0000 On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 10:15 -0800, Gregory M. Lebovitz wrote: > At 08:51 AM 11/5/2009, Dale Worley wrote: > >I was once in Japan long ago, and one of the few things I remember about > >Japanese is that the pronunciation of "Hiroshima" is much different than > >it is in English. In (Standard American) English, it is pronounced "hi > >roe SHEE ma", but in Japanese (IIRC) it is closer to "hi ROE shi ma". > > Is it [hi ROE shi ma] or [hee ROW shee ma]? Good point: Now that you mention it, the vowel's (i/ee) nature is somewhat between the English "short i" and "long e". What I noticed more is that they are both of rather short duration, whereas I think that any "long e" in English is prolonged a bit. The stress on the second syllable is quite pronounced. The vowel of the second syllable is a "long o" but with no "w" at the end, somewhat like Standard American English "roe" (fish eggs) or "row" (to propel a boat forward). And while we're at it, in "Osaka", the first syllable is stressed, and its vowel is a long o that is definitely prolonged, it's one of the Japanese "long vowels", so it is sort of OOO-sa-ka. Dale From dworley@nortel.com Thu Nov 5 10:45:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D223A680B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:45:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TcaKRjNgnJi3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:45:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from zcars04e.nortel.com (zcars04e.nortel.com [47.129.242.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87BF33A63EB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:45:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com (casmtp.ca.nortel.com [47.140.202.46]) by zcars04e.nortel.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id nA5IjCf14647; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:45:13 GMT Received: from [47.16.90.165] ([47.16.90.165]) by zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:45:12 -0500 From: "Dale Worley" To: Muhammad Yousaf In-Reply-To: <982569.51467.qm@web65312.mail.ac2.yahoo.com> References: <982569.51467.qm@web65312.mail.ac2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Nortel Networks Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:45:12 -0500 Message-Id: <1257446712.3738.25.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-5.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2009 18:45:12.0868 (UTC) FILETIME=[1BB05E40:01CA5E48] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Meeting at Kansai airport? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:45:05 -0000 On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 22:51 -0800, Muhammad Yousaf wrote: > Hi all, > I'm also arriving at Kansai Airport Osaka on Saturday Nov.7 at 19:00. > My flight is TG-620 Thai Airways. Then via train to Hiroshima. > Dear Dale we can meet at Kansai Airport. > Anyone else travelling through TG-620 (Bangkok to Kansai) and TG-350 > (Islamabad to Bangkok)?? > Sir Zartash! I wish you share these flights. > Looking at the online maps, KIX has only one terminal building with all of the facilities in the center of the building, including the overpass to the train station. So it seems that the natural meeting place is near the JR ticket booth. I don't know whether that is in the terminal building itself or after the overpass in the train station, but I assume that all the JR ticket booths are in the same area. There appears to be quite a number of flights that arrive at KIX at 19:00. Does anyone know whether we clear customs at Narita if we are connecting at Narita, or do we clear customs at KIX? Dale From jinmei@isc.org Thu Nov 5 10:47:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE783A680B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:47:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 913BjWGOd4oo for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:47:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mon.jinmei.org (mon.jinmei.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:36::162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6013A63EB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:47:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from jmb.jinmei.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb:217:f2ff:fee0:a91f]) by mon.jinmei.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B1AD833C3A; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:47:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:47:31 -0800 Message-ID: From: JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= To: "Gregory M. Lebovitz" In-Reply-To: <4af3163f.0ec5100a.235c.ffffb469@mx.google.com> References: <1257439860.3738.10.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <4af3163f.0ec5100a.235c.ffffb469@mx.google.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/22.1 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] How to pronounce "Hiroshima" X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:47:12 -0000 At Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:15:19 -0800, "Gregory M. Lebovitz" wrote: > >I was once in Japan long ago, and one of the few things I remember about > >Japanese is that the pronunciation of "Hiroshima" is much different than > >it is in English. In (Standard American) English, it is pronounced "hi > >roe SHEE ma", but in Japanese (IIRC) it is closer to "hi ROE shi ma". > > Is it [hi ROE shi ma] or [hee ROW shee ma]? I guess the former is closer to the authentic pronunciation, but I believe both should work. IMO, the most important point is to pronounce each syllable clearly (liaisons would confuse the listener very much). How to pronounce each syllable is relatively minor, especially when you say the word in an appropriate context (e.g. when specifying your destination at a train station). --- JINMEI, Tatuya Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. 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boundary=00504502cc030864350477a44cdf Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] How to pronounce "Hiroshima" X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:57:02 -0000 --00504502cc030864350477a44cdf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm not a Japanese, but I'd suggest you pronounce it just like: hee-RO-shee-ma (ee = short 'i') (O = short 'o') (a bit of accent at RO) ('ma' as in 'mother') For, I don't think RO is with a long vowel in this case. And also, they don't pronounce it like 'roe' or 'row' in Japan, I think. Just a simple sound 'o'. If you're a Spanish or an Italian, you'd be more comfortable to pronounce this 'simple' vowels. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Dale Worley wrote: > On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 10:15 -0800, Gregory M. Lebovitz wrote: > > At 08:51 AM 11/5/2009, Dale Worley wrote: > > >I was once in Japan long ago, and one of the few things I remember about > > >Japanese is that the pronunciation of "Hiroshima" is much different than > > >it is in English. In (Standard American) English, it is pronounced "hi > > >roe SHEE ma", but in Japanese (IIRC) it is closer to "hi ROE shi ma". > > > > Is it [hi ROE shi ma] or [hee ROW shee ma]? > > Good point: Now that you mention it, the vowel's (i/ee) nature is > somewhat between the English "short i" and "long e". What I noticed > more is that they are both of rather short duration, whereas I think > that any "long e" in English is prolonged a bit. The stress on the > second syllable is quite pronounced. The vowel of the second syllable > is a "long o" but with no "w" at the end, somewhat like Standard > American English "roe" (fish eggs) or "row" (to propel a boat forward). > > And while we're at it, in "Osaka", the first syllable is stressed, and > its vowel is a long o that is definitely prolonged, it's one of the > Japanese "long vowels", so it is sort of OOO-sa-ka. > > Dale > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > -- Regards, DY http://cnu.kr/~dykim --00504502cc030864350477a44cdf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm not a Japanese, but I'd suggest you pronounce it just like:
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=A0=A0=A0 hee-RO-shee-ma=A0=A0=A0=A0 (ee =3D short 'i') (O =3D = short 'o')
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 (a bit of accent = at RO)
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 ('ma' as in 'moth= er')

For, I don't think RO is with a long vowel in this case. And also, = they don't pronounce it like 'roe' or 'row' in Japan, I= think. Just a simple sound 'o'.

If you're a Spanish or = an Italian, you'd be more comfortable to pronounce this 'simple'= ; vowels.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Dale Worley = <dworley@nortel.= com> wrote:
On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 10:15 -0800, Gregory M. Lebovitz wr= ote:
> At 08:51 AM 11/5/2009, Dale Worley wrote:
> >I was once in Japan long ago, and one of the few things I remember= about
> >Japanese is that the pronunciation of "Hiroshima" is muc= h different than
> >it is in English. =A0In (Standard American) English, it is pronoun= ced "hi
> >roe SHEE ma", but in Japanese (IIRC) it is closer to "hi= ROE shi ma".
>
> Is it [hi ROE shi ma] or [hee ROW shee ma]?

Good point: =A0Now that you mention it, the vowel's (i/ee) nature= is
somewhat between the English "short i" and "long e". = =A0What I noticed
more is that they are both of rather short duration, whereas I think
that any "long e" in English is prolonged a bit. =A0The stress on= the
second syllable is quite pronounced. =A0The vowel of the second syllable is a "long o" but with no "w" at the end, somewhat like= Standard
American English "roe" (fish eggs) or "row" (to propel = a boat forward).

And while we're at it, in "Osaka", the first syllable is stre= ssed, and
its vowel is a long o that is definitely prolonged, it's one of the
Japanese "long vowels", so it is sort of OOO-sa-ka.

Dale


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--00504502cc030864350477a44cdf-- From jmauch@us.ntt.net Thu Nov 5 11:07:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4B93A6859 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:07:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pi1d-PqPItG5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:07:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from puck.nether.net (puck.nether.net [IPv6:2001:418:3f4::5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B1E3A62C1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:07:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.92.77.145] (mobile-166-137-139-190.mycingular.net [166.137.139.190]) (authenticated bits=0) by puck.nether.net (8.14.3/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nA5J8FFA039234 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:08:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jmauch@us.ntt.net) From: Jared Mauch To: Dale Worley In-Reply-To: <1257446712.3738.25.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7D11) References: <982569.51467.qm@web65312.mail.ac2.yahoo.com> <1257446712.3738.25.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7D11) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:07:33 -0600 X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (puck.nether.net [204.42.254.5]); Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:08:18 -0500 (EST) Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Meeting at Kansai airport? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:07:20 -0000 I believe you will clear at kix. If you are on the Nwa flight from nrt to kix, see you soon. On my flight to narita now. (at least I am seated, hope to depart soon). Jared Mauch On Nov 5, 2009, at 12:45 PM, "Dale Worley" wrote: > On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 22:51 -0800, Muhammad Yousaf wrote: >> Hi all, >> I'm also arriving at Kansai Airport Osaka on Saturday Nov.7 at 19:00. >> My flight is TG-620 Thai Airways. Then via train to Hiroshima. >> Dear Dale we can meet at Kansai Airport. >> Anyone else travelling through TG-620 (Bangkok to Kansai) and TG-350 >> (Islamabad to Bangkok)?? >> Sir Zartash! I wish you share these flights. >> > > Looking at the online maps, KIX has only one terminal building with > all > of the facilities in the center of the building, including the > overpass > to the train station. So it seems that the natural meeting place is > near the JR ticket booth. I don't know whether that is in the > terminal > building itself or after the overpass in the train station, but I > assume > that all the JR ticket booths are in the same area. > > There appears to be quite a number of flights that arrive at KIX at > 19:00. > > Does anyone know whether we clear customs at Narita if we are > connecting > at Narita, or do we clear customs at KIX? > > Dale > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From ole@cisco.com Thu Nov 5 11:34:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3473C3A68D3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:34:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.588 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.588 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.011, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vapsoGP16+GV for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:34:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com (sj-iport-2.cisco.com [171.71.176.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138C33A68C1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:34:53 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAHe38kqrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbADIcYEaCAGIBAmOQoJUgWkE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,687,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="221667228" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2009 19:35:14 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA5JZFkv019777; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:35:15 GMT Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:34:37 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Dae Young KIM In-Reply-To: <3938a04d0911051057i1f4ab5b5r208c78cbabc3175f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <1257439860.3738.10.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <4af3163f.0ec5100a.235c.ffffb469@mx.google.com> <1257446546.3738.22.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <3938a04d0911051057i1f4ab5b5r208c78cbabc3175f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] How to pronounce "Hiroshima" X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:34:54 -0000 Rather than argue about how one might represent sounds in ASCII in a manner that we can all agree on (difficult unless you use standard special characters for such), may I humbly suggest that we use the Internets which now actually support "multi-media" and "searching" and you might find something like: http://www.forvo.com/word/hiroshima/ http://www.ehow.com/how_2183342_pronounce-japanese-words.html The "best" way to learn how things are pronounced is probably to just listen to spoken Japanese, bring a little radio and listen to one of the NHK stations that feature just "spoken" Japanese, be it lectures, news etc. (You don't have to understand a single word to get a feel for the way the language SOUNDS). There are probably Internet audio streams for most of this too, local folks can chime in. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From ole@cisco.com Thu Nov 5 11:43:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579F83A6B56 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:43:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.588 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.588 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.011, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q39F-WYc8azH for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:43:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D47C3A6B55 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:43:47 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAM658kqrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbADIdoEaCAGIBAmOQ4JUgWkEgWY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,687,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="266897563" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2009 19:44:10 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA5JiAeV017225; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:44:10 GMT Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:43:31 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Dae Young KIM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <1257439860.3738.10.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <4af3163f.0ec5100a.235c.ffffb469@mx.google.com> <1257446546.3738.22.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <3938a04d0911051057i1f4ab5b5r208c78cbabc3175f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] How to pronounce "Hiroshima" X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:43:48 -0000 You could of course take the just-in-time learning approach: http://www.nhk.or.jp/lesson/english/learn/story/scene01/index.html Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From dykim6@gmail.com Thu Nov 5 11:58:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC85F28C0F5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:58:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.366 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.366 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.232, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9-nQnZR0UNZB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:58:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28B43A69CF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:58:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by pwi4 with SMTP id 4so213470pwi.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:59:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=LjITMJ+aKOIvTnf+l8LH3tFgIQb2vyqbcw6rlhIflt0=; b=wNosWf89H/8x26q5XJva80rP5Me8Ubuv5pagUKfDZ9vN3Zse+SoZpH5EXg/sMGiulS 0secrEJWtmWSebt3yIG2eIWjJ4FfkONhPNFRATtEXZztyT/xIxMrVPNDpb56FT6pOgnZ wL1zld9mIBxwGCHiKrFA/wZNoC7QUYH3S63YE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=fEN24bKDkGK6jk6ImJujk1kcFJ9xXz1FtAwnBD+7tfmvxjc5+mr5MhAuUZz15H330j GRtUGa9uHuDxmM3DE/SU/oubhiiwWqd7pVYpyi34qteEGNzi7yt8evhhuxehFpARxSMZ dwWW+7l75bvEamUWx3BCcPvHl39Hqm++EEk5I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.26.38 with SMTP id d38mr372160wfj.216.1257451158794; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:59:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1257439860.3738.10.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <4af3163f.0ec5100a.235c.ffffb469@mx.google.com> <1257446546.3738.22.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <3938a04d0911051057i1f4ab5b5r208c78cbabc3175f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:59:18 +0900 Message-ID: <3938a04d0911051159u40640fa9we13159c6fabd04bb@mail.gmail.com> From: Dae Young KIM To: Ole Jacobsen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0ad73a4739a0477a52980 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] How to pronounce "Hiroshima" X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:58:59 -0000 --001636e0ad73a4739a0477a52980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In fact, any foul pronunciation of Japanese word would put you in too odd a situation. Mostly, they already know what you're saying. And perhaps in contrast to western culture(??? am I right?), it would even seem strange for a foreigner to speak too fluent Japanese or Korean. Odd pronunciation is cute and more appealing(?), and they already know you must be in trouble and would be more ready to offer help. BTW, about ASCII.. did you know that the Korean characters, Hanguel, is one of the simplest and most effective phonetic script? A topic for a possibly future IETF in Corea. Now, it's about Japan and Hiroshima. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > Rather than argue about how one might represent sounds in ASCII in a > manner that we can all agree on (difficult unless you use standard > special characters for such), may I humbly suggest that we use the > Internets which now actually support "multi-media" and "searching" > and you might find something like: > > http://www.forvo.com/word/hiroshima/ > > http://www.ehow.com/how_2183342_pronounce-japanese-words.html > > > The "best" way to learn how things are pronounced is probably to just > listen to spoken Japanese, bring a little radio and listen to one of > the NHK stations that feature just "spoken" Japanese, be it lectures, > news etc. (You don't have to understand a single word to get a feel > for the way the language SOUNDS). There are probably Internet audio > streams for most of this too, local folks can chime in. > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > -- Regards, DY http://cnu.kr/~dykim --001636e0ad73a4739a0477a52980 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In fact, any foul pronunciation of Japanese word would put you in too odd a= situation. Mostly, they already know what you're saying.

And pe= rhaps in contrast to western culture(??? am I right?), it would even seem s= trange for a foreigner to speak too fluent Japanese or Korean. Odd pronunci= ation is cute and more appealing(?), and they already know you must be in t= rouble and would be more ready to offer help.

BTW, about ASCII.. did you know that the Korean characters, Hanguel, is= one of the simplest and most effective phonetic script? A topic for a poss= ibly future IETF in Corea. Now, it's about Japan and Hiroshima.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Ole Jacobsen= <ole@cisco.com&g= t; wrote:

Rather than argue about how one might represent sounds in ASCII in a
manner that we can all agree on (difficult unless you use standard
special characters for such), may I humbly suggest that we use the
Internets which now actually support "multi-media" and "sear= ching"
and you might find something like:

http://w= ww.forvo.com/word/hiroshima/

http://www.ehow.com/how_2183342_pronounce-japanese-words.h= tml


The "best" way to learn how things are pronounced is probably to = just
listen to spoken Japanese, bring a little radio and listen to one of
the NHK stations that feature just "spoken" Japanese, be it lectu= res,
news etc. (You don't have to understand a single word to get a feel
for the way the language SOUNDS). There are probably Internet audio
streams for most of this too, local folks can chime in.

Ole


Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher, =A0The Internet Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
Tel: +1 408-527-8972 =A0 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
E-mail: ole@cisco.com =A0URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj






--
Regards,

DY
<= a href=3D"http://cnu.kr/~dykim">http://cnu.kr/~dykim
--001636e0ad73a4739a0477a52980-- From dykim6@gmail.com Thu Nov 5 12:00:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5282D28C132 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:00:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.412 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.412 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.186, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pTxm+ThnwI0e for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pz0-f204.google.com (mail-pz0-f204.google.com [209.85.222.204]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6EC28C1AB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by pzk42 with SMTP id 42so243475pzk.31 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:00:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1kdbaYRHF1AB6ab+04Jx2dMuapkn4eOOOpwpxfuD4QY=; b=ibCVnv78S/lNmr8I3oV3wKVNjhHHhicMq8Zv6aUzmbaH070r1ROAQHRpVuWGeXVkJD zhXaWsQUlcIMeY4EWH6lylRc6oXm2/edgOe1wxWWCqdnLUOVwVvmTroRxcDQEpZNZcHU QjqLiuZWGpTjsWKGuXilK8+CeSyW8jidP2VQE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=tduJgSzLbv/gVNf6mFf4rnGj8kp1tfv6ykZi+HLzuG8RRUsrBhBFnrc95U8rdWBZ55 rTS0tP/0/3pinvFmdxZaTctBNXvjFw2do3wE0zz/Xyu/ig6/e/kNuknEIaZ4KnWWW784 lAaYz1rkk5mEU74RGBPiQThpR2YRa7V9S7VtY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.202.9 with SMTP id z9mr328056wff.166.1257451221726; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:00:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3938a04d0911051159u40640fa9we13159c6fabd04bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <1257439860.3738.10.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <4af3163f.0ec5100a.235c.ffffb469@mx.google.com> <1257446546.3738.22.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <3938a04d0911051057i1f4ab5b5r208c78cbabc3175f@mail.gmail.com> <3938a04d0911051159u40640fa9we13159c6fabd04bb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 05:00:19 +0900 Message-ID: <3938a04d0911051200p739ef9f9od463a45cac63ea32@mail.gmail.com> From: Dae Young KIM To: Ole Jacobsen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2e0a664b6420477a52d96 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] How to pronounce "Hiroshima" X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:00:03 -0000 --000e0cd2e0a664b6420477a52d96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> In fact, any foul pronunciation of Japanese word would put you in too odd a situation. I'm sorry, I meant to say 'would NOT'. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Dae Young KIM wrote: > In fact, any foul pronunciation of Japanese word would put you in too odd a > situation. Mostly, they already know what you're saying. > > And perhaps in contrast to western culture(??? am I right?), it would even > seem strange for a foreigner to speak too fluent Japanese or Korean. Odd > pronunciation is cute and more appealing(?), and they already know you must > be in trouble and would be more ready to offer help. > > BTW, about ASCII.. did you know that the Korean characters, Hanguel, is one > of the simplest and most effective phonetic script? A topic for a possibly > future IETF in Corea. Now, it's about Japan and Hiroshima. > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > >> >> Rather than argue about how one might represent sounds in ASCII in a >> manner that we can all agree on (difficult unless you use standard >> special characters for such), may I humbly suggest that we use the >> Internets which now actually support "multi-media" and "searching" >> and you might find something like: >> >> http://www.forvo.com/word/hiroshima/ >> >> http://www.ehow.com/how_2183342_pronounce-japanese-words.html >> >> >> The "best" way to learn how things are pronounced is probably to just >> listen to spoken Japanese, bring a little radio and listen to one of >> the NHK stations that feature just "spoken" Japanese, be it lectures, >> news etc. (You don't have to understand a single word to get a feel >> for the way the language SOUNDS). There are probably Internet audio >> streams for most of this too, local folks can chime in. >> >> Ole >> >> >> Ole J. Jacobsen >> Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal >> Cisco Systems >> Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 >> E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > > DY > http://cnu.kr/~dykim > -- Regards, DY http://cnu.kr/~dykim --000e0cd2e0a664b6420477a52d96 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 >> In fact, any foul pronunciation of Japanese word would put you= in too odd a situation.

I'm sorry, I meant to say 'would NO= T'.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:59 AM, D= ae Young KIM <dyki= m6@gmail.com> wrote:
In fact, any foul= pronunciation of Japanese word would put you in too odd a situation. Mostl= y, they already know what you're saying.

And perhaps in contrast to western culture(??? am I right?), it would e= ven seem strange for a foreigner to speak too fluent Japanese or Korean. Od= d pronunciation is cute and more appealing(?), and they already know you mu= st be in trouble and would be more ready to offer help.

BTW, about ASCII.. did you know that the Korean characters, Hanguel, is= one of the simplest and most effective phonetic script? A topic for a poss= ibly future IETF in Corea. Now, it's about Japan and Hiroshima.


On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Ole Jacobsen= <o= le@cisco.com> wrote:

Rather than argue about how one might represent sounds in ASCII in a
manner that we can all agree on (difficult unless you use standard
special characters for such), may I humbly suggest that we use the
Internets which now actually support "multi-media" and "sear= ching"
and you might find something like:

http://w= ww.forvo.com/word/hiroshima/

http://www.ehow.com/how_2183342_pronounce-japanese-words.h= tml


The "best" way to learn how things are pronounced is probably to = just
listen to spoken Japanese, bring a little radio and listen to one of
the NHK stations that feature just "spoken" Japanese, be it lectu= res,
news etc. (You don't have to understand a single word to get a feel
for the way the language SOUNDS). There are probably Internet audio
streams for most of this too, local folks can chime in.

Ole


Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher, =A0The Internet Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
Tel: +1 408-527-8972 =A0 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
E-mail: ole@cisco.com =A0URL: http://www= .cisco.com/ipj






--
Regards,

DY
http://cnu.kr/~dykim



--
Regards,
DY
http://cnu.kr/~dykim
--000e0cd2e0a664b6420477a52d96-- From randy@psg.com Thu Nov 5 12:00:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31863A69E1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:00:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vzi2aNfZT2LW for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD613A69C0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:00:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [208.51.118.2] (helo=rmac.local) by ran.psg.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1N68W5-0007UI-Gb; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:01:09 +0000 Message-ID: <4AF32F03.5030802@psg.com> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:01:07 -0600 From: Randy Bush User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dae Young KIM References: <1257439860.3738.10.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <4af3163f.0ec5100a.235c.ffffb469@mx.google.com> <1257446546.3738.22.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <3938a04d0911051057i1f4ab5b5r208c78cbabc3175f@mail.gmail.com> <3938a04d0911051159u40640fa9we13159c6fabd04bb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3938a04d0911051159u40640fa9we13159c6fabd04bb@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] How to pronounce "Hiroshima" X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:00:49 -0000 the purpose of the tourist is to amuse the locals randy From tomasz.mrugalski@googlemail.com Thu Nov 5 13:22:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3D33A68AB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:22:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.976 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.976 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 41UuOXeWFa2J for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:22:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D91F3A682A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:22:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so473457bwz.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:22:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=6Yx8w4vtj/4m2z52L5vS5j4SimXWEh6qXzhbTLcawFs=; b=TBEG2OeRECv+hcXJfLV2jZ/SNZroFBopNot0vCXVm+6zoKVtdwurHFJX6JdqW6QVqO dezS34oAmTfh9KStySIxI9ixWmcBORS8wjqHr2FwbxQWw7WAEGZJnZNNT3reKfahN+8L mrDkXxNnLF1r6JJaJU8ZxmH9vyk7Ae+qA4w7s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=idc/bTYFdGUr5TQ2cCLn5WDkhn5YNPPfQbIB+cZ22TUhZvpBsnB9zbvhgp83XBncLX J3vLn86RSF/hIaNKreHXo+M9H8Gzmqn1OBW5DtxuLgPBIbSSRPCGq6eiem6H0hXwebFf /nRcxgM4DjjXPeaW20KhSdMfO6wnHXz+y0bYE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.132.204 with SMTP id c12mr502281fat.80.1257456171256; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:22:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:22:51 +0100 Message-ID: <7e7294ec0911051322g1ec090f3w3aec19873127182b@mail.gmail.com> From: Tomasz Mrugalski To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023545bd658688a4b0477a654fa Subject: [76attendees] Sumo tournament tickets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:22:33 -0000 --0023545bd658688a4b0477a654fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi all, This is my first visit in Japan, so I couldn't miss the chance to see as much as possible. One of the things I'd like to see is a sumo tournament. Luckily, few days after IETF one of the Grand Sumo Tournaments is held. It starts on Nov.15th in Fukuoka and lasts for almost 2 weeks: http://t.pia.jp/sumo/en/sumo11.php. The problem is that there is no way to buy tickets on-line and all phone reservations are Japanese only. Is there a chance to buy tickets at the venue, on the tournament day? That's kind of national scale event, so I was wondering if it will be fully booked. Or maybe make some kind of reservation? Hopefully that will be my first sumo tournament, so any seat will do. It's too late to use any mail delivery, so the only option is to pickup tickets at the venue, I think. Any suggestions how to book//buy the tickets? Regards and see you all in Hiroshima, -- Tomasz Mrugalski --0023545bd658688a4b0477a654fa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all,
This is my first visit in Japan, so I couldn't miss the chan= ce to see as much as possible.
One of the things I'd like to see is= a sumo tournament. Luckily, few days after IETF one
of the Grand Sumo T= ournaments is held. It starts on Nov.15th in Fukuoka and lasts for
almost 2 weeks: http://t.pia= .jp/sumo/en/sumo11.php.
The problem is that there is no way to buy = tickets on-line and all phone reservations
are Japanese only. Is there = a chance to buy tickets at the venue, on the tournament
day? That's kind of national scale event, so I was wondering if it will be fully booked.
Or maybe make some kind of reserv= ation? Hopefully that will be my first=20 sumo tournament,
so any seat will do. It's too late to use any mail= delivery, so the only option is to pickup
tickets at the venue, I thin= k. Any suggestions how to book//buy the tickets?

Regards and see you= all in Hiroshima,

--
Tomasz Mrugalski

--0023545bd658688a4b0477a654fa-- From rajiva@cisco.com Thu Nov 5 18:51:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328D33A681F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:51:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tuqlJ8Y001ws for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942C13A6867 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:51:09 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAKcd80qrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbADHOZd9hD0E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,689,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="426005543" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 06 Nov 2009 02:51:32 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-201.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-201.cisco.com [72.163.62.200]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA62pVgg028123 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 02:51:32 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-111.cisco.com ([72.163.62.153]) by xbh-rcd-201.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:51:31 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:51:30 -0600 Message-ID: <067E6CE33034954AAC05C9EC85E2577C103F7B@XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Tokyo to Hiroshima @4,5pm on Sunday 8th Thread-Index: AcpejAsKqO/uG6YdRje7ZMTH05tqXw== From: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" To: <76attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2009 02:51:31.0678 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B9D6FE0:01CA5E8C] Subject: [76attendees] Tokyo to Hiroshima @4,5pm on Sunday 8th X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:51:10 -0000 Anybody landing ~4pm in Tokyo and catching the Narita train/Bullet train to Hiroshima ~4:45pm??=20 We can meet at the Train station at Narita airport.=20 Cheers, Rajiv From gg55go@gmail.com Thu Nov 5 18:56:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874033A6A1A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:56:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pU3LXOWWAyey for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:56:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f183.google.com (mail-yw0-f183.google.com [209.85.211.183]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958C73A6925 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:56:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywh13 with SMTP id 13so677182ywh.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:56:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KYIx2NS9+86TKWz82zI9IJuzRfpvTCimsZAF4f+ij6w=; b=MBH4CfiOhS8qrqyTmbTQCptPl68GOZF1yQg1qF4EBnzk7mhlqVFOb7OJLa2WD+KJS2 aw6Wjs/kOwdpbNaAiJRld8liZ71oq6n3iygVwoTo96AVRAkaRLWNywUibMZogl61/c1e deqlLHZTcq4mfN39oJSdQWE2hVcbJWZwwDvIk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=A8nICfwgi+wdAZFE3gTery1GWpxPadlcd3zykmA03Ka3PKZ/l+Uqrtdv2ZSQU3mc7/ yPxfNoSgeHm9JOI6L3ythRbk15qwkOv02kQTpfSlR3qOyCrhTg4FLh6fxpfZsAL7uYu7 2k1QeDdH88skiE1nmlB9YQphWeJrlxh5IMlqE= Received: by 10.150.45.40 with SMTP id s40mr6643264ybs.260.1257476205642; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:56:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.157? (g54.neu.co.jp [61.194.28.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm980013ywd.44.2009.11.05.18.56.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:56:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF39066.8050504@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:56:38 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gregory M. Lebovitz" References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4af30e61.0d1abc0a.50b7.5f37@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <4af30e61.0d1abc0a.50b7.5f37@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part III X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:56:26 -0000 Hi Gregory From: Gregory M. Lebovitz Date: Fri Nov 06 2009 02:39:52 GMT+0900 >> We have currently 16 on Thursday evening. I'm not sure how many we >> can accommodate for a single court, but if all the "OK" people show up >> (although I heard it wouldn't be the case, that is, there'll be last >> minute cancellation) I'm afraid we are almost full. > > I filled out the doodle. Thur works for me. I have to be on stage for > IAB Q&A until 19:30, so says the calendar. Then again, people haven't > been wanting to ask the IAB questions at the past few IETFs, so maybe > we'll get out early. I'll plan to come immediately following the tech > plenary. > > Gregory. I'll just announce for the freaks. I've checked schedule of another futsal court named MIZUNO FUTSAL PLAZA(MFP) of Hiroshima. http://www.mfpnet.com/14hrs/14hrs.html (all Japanese pages) Accoding to the scheduel by web, https://yoyaku.fcjapan.jp/team/scripts/user/faci_schedule.php?faci_id=61 (also Japanese) these are vacant *at the moment*. 8th(Sun) 08:30 to 21:00 9th(Mon) 08:30 to 19:00 10th(Tue) 08:30 to 20:00 11th(Wed) 08:30 to 19:00 12th(Thu) 08:30 to 16:00 13th(Fri) 08:30 to 17:00 and 17:00 to 21:00 12th would be held the other court in the evening. GO From rajiva@cisco.com Thu Nov 5 19:06:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF3D3A6939 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:06:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tO5jwcJuAHVo for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:06:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47AE13A681F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:06:37 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEABoi80qrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbADHHpd/hD0E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,689,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="267076464" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 06 Nov 2009 03:07:00 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com [72.163.62.201]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA63707K005305 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 03:07:00 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-111.cisco.com ([72.163.62.153]) by xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:06:59 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:06:53 -0600 Message-ID: <067E6CE33034954AAC05C9EC85E2577C103F85@XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Hiroshima maps for phones? Thread-Index: AcpejjDx4A/OZtSDRBqXDEALEag00Q== From: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" To: <76attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2009 03:07:00.0192 (UTC) FILETIME=[350D6E00:01CA5E8E] Subject: [76attendees] Hiroshima maps for phones? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:06:37 -0000 Any tip about downloading the hiroshima maps on smartphones for off-line usage? Cheers, Rajiv From dykim6@gmail.com Thu Nov 5 19:47:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743AB3A6A2A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:47:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.524 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8=0.152] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SJ2jbofc88T3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:47:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CEB83A699D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:47:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by pwi4 with SMTP id 4so440464pwi.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:47:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rxPRl6jt26NjmgeTkODXXCCPvMm0Tu3x5xAxqUMs+EQ=; b=u7FO9dBpYhdwitxq14d9RBnqCxRL01+sbryl0oyVP4RXAT58IlHwkB4ZkltX36U1nz uDqukzHTfR1E+O/ljXnyvlCxg5aqcOtKyT8HMs2iyHHIqqVhETqWj3GhB3UOOXxuOGy2 lkTFmBsrQMyTbPirBIF86IJ1T54H2+6gulj9s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=LE2U0oOzj9+TMdr1WFL/dXAhXGYA21Kq6GRRt7fpoanP4JrqnsPeOmq4O1TlZb6T1h iYxFm7alXXYGkQ8VSvGMUASHnzjEkBayP9JGFdic/NrYsg9tB5AWEPb9Y93hoIWXqGAR 9HQlg3usiEjL69BdNwuM/0X2XkW+uuivc5ByM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: dykim6@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.60.19 with SMTP id i19mr378815wfa.315.1257479257488; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:47:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:47:36 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9f70c02a0734ee0d Message-ID: <3938a04d0911051947r38700183raa5d11965805a6aa@mail.gmail.com> From: Dae Young KIM To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502ad10747c7a0477abb490 Subject: [76attendees] =?utf-8?b?V2h5IHRoZSBuYW1lIEhpcm9zaGltKOW6g+Wztikg?= =?utf-8?q?-_=27wide_island=27=3F?= X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:47:18 -0000 --00504502ad10747c7a0477abb490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Is there a big island nearby? Or is Hiroshima itself an island? -- Regards, DY http://cnu.kr/~dykim --00504502ad10747c7a0477abb490 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Is there a big island nearby? Or is Hiroshima itself an island?

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--00504502ad10747c7a0477abb490-- From shtsuchi@cisco.com Thu Nov 5 19:59:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 288E63A6895 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:59:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.547 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.547 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_43=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8=0.152] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6k4W0iZ9cx7r for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:59:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com (sj-iport-5.cisco.com [171.68.10.87]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619023A6867 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:59:35 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-5.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEANIt80pAaHte/2dsb2JhbACEc8FvhxKQcYEygjhTBIJb X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,690,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="102720082" Received: from hkg-core-1.cisco.com ([64.104.123.94]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 06 Nov 2009 03:59:57 +0000 Received: from xbh-hkg-412.apac.cisco.com (xbh-hkg-412.cisco.com [64.104.123.69]) by hkg-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA63xvGO026217; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 03:59:57 GMT Received: from xfe-hkg-411.apac.cisco.com ([64.104.123.70]) by xbh-hkg-412.apac.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:59:56 +0800 Received: from [64.104.9.164] ([64.104.9.164]) by xfe-hkg-411.apac.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:59:56 +0800 Message-ID: <4AF39F3C.5080300@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:59:56 +0900 From: Shishio Tsuchiya User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dykim@cnu.kr References: <3938a04d0911051947r38700183raa5d11965805a6aa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3938a04d0911051947r38700183raa5d11965805a6aa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2009 03:59:56.0633 (UTC) FILETIME=[9A5BDC90:01CA5E95] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] =?utf-8?b?V2h5IHRoZSBuYW1lIEhpcm9zaGltKOW6g+Wztikg?= =?utf-8?q?-_=27wide_island=27=3F?= X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:59:36 -0000 http://chimei-allguide.com/34/000.html http://translate.google.co.jp/translate?prev=hp&hl=ja&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fchimei-allguide.com%2F34%2F000.html&sl=ja&tl=en&history_state0= I'm not sure,but there are two theory. 1.Hiroshima was the widest island around here. 2.came from two samurai's name. Regards, -Shishio -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [76attendees] Why the name Hiroshim(広島) - 'wide island'? From: Dae Young KIM To: 76attendees@ietf.org Date: Fri Nov 06 2009 12:47:36 GMT+0900 (Tokyo Standard Time) > Is there a big island nearby? Or is Hiroshima itself an island? > > -- > Regards, > > DY > http://cnu.kr/~dykim > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From wjhns1@hardakers.net Thu Nov 5 20:40:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099C93A6A5D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:40:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5-kJK41uaSGI for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:40:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.hardakers.net (hardaker-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::af]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AC23A6925 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (wjh.hardakers.net [10.0.0.2]) by mail.hardakers.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0084B98156; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:40:27 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Hardaker To: "Rajiv Asati \(rajiva\)" Organization: Sparta References: <067E6CE33034954AAC05C9EC85E2577C103F85@XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:40:26 -0800 In-Reply-To: <067E6CE33034954AAC05C9EC85E2577C103F85@XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com> (Rajiv Asati's message of "Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:06:53 -0600") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) XEmacs/21.4.22 (linux, no MULE) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hiroshima maps for phones? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:40:06 -0000 >>>>> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:06:53 -0600, "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" said: RA> Any tip about downloading the hiroshima maps on smartphones for off-line RA> usage? I've placed a garmin image file for garmin GPSes rendered from open street map data at: http://www.hardakers.net/temp/japan.img For garmin GPSes that take micro SD cards you'll need to rename it to "gmapsupp.img". For garmins that don't, you'll need to use an image transferring utility to put in the GPS. Any errors you find in the data during your stay can be corrected online via the OSM project's interface! http://www.openstreetmap.org/ -- Wes Hardaker Cobham Analytic Solutions From dykim6@gmail.com Thu Nov 5 21:04:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E8C3A685E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:04:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.233 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.233 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.757, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_43=0.6, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, SARE_SUB_ENC_ISO2022JP=0.413] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m3l9wO8roEbR for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:04:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pz0-f204.google.com (mail-pz0-f204.google.com [209.85.222.204]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A193A67AA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:04:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by pzk42 with SMTP id 42so544511pzk.31 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:04:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=Zpofj+YQJmGDifkrxiH3wL+b6qTHmvX8oCWdNUnlFi4=; b=n8UjqThltdUrV9ytZ+upaniikCYTrSXiI1/fqQLG3xJRGSHV8CKU3cYMOWaPnrpcwm z0KpBVaSwjMN3QTGEtUFGLeGBoPhGEr2lwNLxVU9GDgPodoR2QTr6uAIQIAjiicIRXxm NENoavZb+E+dzRtIwzzFVcMF2d7TxeQb/oEZE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=s8gqX5VDk+e8/KWY+WQHunE9UwoIe9Oascij1fCe+ryf02BePbXKTwU1Bl5o3pGaKR 1YNPK+b6gqr74I4o7eSYf/QHcSiz0TRZxFvsonorhWV4VIGk6SgTG1fpDFDYja4sDfBH 2YpfTGn6qMQh+rVugNhs5U2d1MJF7FGXJOQNU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: dykim6@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.209.12 with SMTP id h12mr415686wfg.53.1257483898228; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:04:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF39F3C.5080300@cisco.com> References: <3938a04d0911051947r38700183raa5d11965805a6aa@mail.gmail.com> <4AF39F3C.5080300@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:04:58 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d2dcdc61ac633d70 Message-ID: <3938a04d0911052104p4729a5ebo9084c7b0d0ce9e83@mail.gmail.com> From: Dae Young KIM To: Shishio Tsuchiya Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd32e1210922c0477acc963 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] =?iso-2022-jp?b?V2h5IHRoZSBuYW1lIEhpcm9zaGltKA==?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCOS1FZxsoQikgLSAnd2lkZSBpc2xhbmQnPw==?= X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:04:47 -0000 --000e0cd32e1210922c0477acc963 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks. Interesting. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Shishio Tsuchiya wrote: > http://chimei-allguide.com/34/000.html > > http://translate.google.co.jp/translate?prev=hp&hl=ja&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fchimei-allguide.com%2F34%2F000.html&sl=ja&tl=en&history_state0= > > I'm not sure,but there are two theory. > 1.Hiroshima was the widest island around here. > 2.came from two samurai's name. > > Regards, > -Shishio > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [76attendees] Why the name Hiroshim($B9-Eg(B) - 'wide island'? > From: Dae Young KIM > To: 76attendees@ietf.org > Date: Fri Nov 06 2009 12:47:36 GMT+0900 (Tokyo Standard Time) > > Is there a big island nearby? 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X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:56:58 -0000 On Nov 6, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) wrote: > Any tip about downloading the hiroshima maps on smartphones for off- > line > usage? There is a app for the iPhone called "OffMaps" that does this. It costs $2.99. See: http://www.offmaps.com/ I don't have a lot of experience with it, but it does support off-line maps. 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(g54.neu.co.jp [61.194.28.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm1058142ywg.13.2009.11.05.23.39.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:39:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF3D2AA.50100@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:39:22 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Hinden References: <067E6CE33034954AAC05C9EC85E2577C103F85@XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hiroshima maps for phones? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:39:12 -0000 Hi Someone wants to enjoy in Hiroshima It's not for phones but,,, Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM and GSM From: Go Kawaguchi Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:11:49 +0900 > ... to search nice restaurants for other people, > > Get Hiroshima > http://www.gethiroshima.com/en/ > > is the most popular site for foreigners who live in Hiroshima. > > And its map of "GetHiroshima Map" > http://www.gethiroshima.com/getmap I really recommend it for unfamiliar guys in Hiroshima. > > this would be precious for tourists. > > You can download the PDF files and print them. GO From: Bob Hinden Date: Fri Nov 06 2009 15:57:09 GMT+0900 > > On Nov 6, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) wrote: > >> Any tip about downloading the hiroshima maps on smartphones for off-line >> usage? > > There is a app for the iPhone called "OffMaps" that does this. It costs > $2.99. See: > > http://www.offmaps.com/ > > I don't have a lot of experience with it, but it does support off-line > maps. > > Bob > > >> >> Cheers, >> Rajiv From ole@cisco.com Fri Nov 6 00:40:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DC43A6B91 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:40:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.362 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.362 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.215, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8=0.152] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gal23SgIAOZm for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:40:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com (sj-iport-4.cisco.com [171.68.10.86]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8523A6B8F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:40:26 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-4.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEACdw80qrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbADEaYEaCAGIBAmOX4JUgWkE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,691,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="48340548" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 06 Nov 2009 08:40:49 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA68enBt027360; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:40:49 GMT Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:40:10 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Dae Young KIM In-Reply-To: <3938a04d0911051947r38700183raa5d11965805a6aa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <3938a04d0911051947r38700183raa5d11965805a6aa@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] =?utf-8?b?V2h5IHRoZSBuYW1lIEhpcm9zaGltKOW6g+Wztikg?= =?utf-8?q?-_=27wide_island=27=3F?= X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:40:27 -0000 Look at the map! There are lots of islands and lots of rivers in a delta. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, Dae Young KIM wrote: > Is there a big island nearby? Or is Hiroshima itself an island? > > -- > Regards, > > DY > http://cnu.kr/~dykim > From tena@huawei.com Fri Nov 6 01:01:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24FC3A67A5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 01:01:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.074, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8=0.152, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2QfescNiUO4l for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 01:01:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from szxga02-in.huawei.com (szxga02-in.huawei.com [119.145.14.65]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62943A672F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 01:01:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (szxga02-in [172.24.2.6]) by szxga02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KSO00EQNJQ3SP@szxga02-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:01:15 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.1.6]) by szxga02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KSO000Z1JPYFK@szxga02-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:01:15 +0800 (CST) Received: from [10.5.5.64] ([58.32.238.130]) by szxml02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KSO0021GJQ0LP@szxml02-in.huawei.com>; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:01:13 +0800 (CST) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:01:12 +0800 From: Tina TSOU In-reply-to: To: Ole Jacobsen Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable References: <3938a04d0911051947r38700183raa5d11965805a6aa@mail.gmail.com> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org, Dae Young KIM Subject: Re: [76attendees] =?utf-8?b?V2h5IHRoZSBuYW1lIEhpcm9zaGltKOW6g+Wztikg?= =?utf-8?q?-_=27wide_island=27=3F?= X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:01:32 -0000 I only know there is a Hong Kong movie name "the love of Hiroshima". =20 IETF-76 is my first hit on Hiroshima. Canton (=E5=B9=BF=E5=B7=9E), a Chinese city, means "wide state". It is = not as big =20 as Beijing, New York. So, "wide xxx" is perhaps just a nice name:) B. R. Tina http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html On Nov 6, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > Look at the map! > > There are lots of islands and lots of rivers in a delta. > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, Dae Young KIM wrote: > >> Is there a big island nearby? Or is Hiroshima itself an island? >> >> --=20 >> Regards, >> >> DY >> http://cnu.kr/~dykim >> > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From jinmei@isc.org Fri Nov 6 01:02:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FEB628C14C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 01:02:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WHI750ehtl7T for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 01:02:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mon.jinmei.org (mon.jinmei.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:36::162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC7328C148 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 01:02:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from jmb.jinmei.org (adsl-209-233-31-46.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [209.233.31.46]) by mon.jinmei.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8CEC733C3E; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 01:03:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:03:16 -0800 Message-ID: From: JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= To: Go Kawaguchi In-Reply-To: <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/22.1 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part III X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:02:56 -0000 Kawaguchi-san, Sorry for the delayed response. I've been so busy this week... At Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:03:35 +0900, Go Kawaguchi wrote: > Isn't below the quotation useful to obtain fulsal courts? > I hope so. Frankly, I have no idea. I myself don't have an additional resource (mainly time) to manage organizing an additional futsal session (in case you've not noticed, I've already booked one court for Thursday evening). If you're willing to organize the additional session, whether it's on Thursday or not, please feel free to do so. p.s. hmm.. we've finally got 20 on Thursday evening. Maybe it's still okay, assuming there'll be last minute cancels and we'll have three teams (6-7 each), but we're certainly almost full. If we are going to have more possible participants, we'll probably need another session to accommodate all. --- JINMEI, Tatuya Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. From ole@cisco.com Fri Nov 6 03:23:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3F73A67B3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 03:23:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.584 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.584 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LqGTO7AADNT6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 03:23:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE203A6774 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 03:23:10 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAB6W80qrRN+K/2dsb2JhbADEdoEaCAGIBAmOV4JUgWkE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,692,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="267232851" Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 06 Nov 2009 11:23:34 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA6BNY7Y001440 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:23:34 GMT Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 03:22:55 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [76attendees] For Macintosh people in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:23:11 -0000 Greetings from Hiroshima, If should find yourself in need ofcritical Mac stuff such as an AC adapter, mini-DVI-to-mumble adapter or even a replacement battery for some models of the MacBook Pro or PowerBook, there is a place called DeoDeo not far from the venue hotel. Go out the front of the ANA Crowne Plaza, turn RIGHT and go to the corner (past the shrine), then turn RIGHT again and go down a couple of blocks until the main drag intersects with a covered shopping street. Turn LEFT onto said shopping street and you will find DeoDeo on your left hand side a short distance down. The Mac department is on the 4th floor. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From dykim6@gmail.com Fri Nov 6 03:32:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082AB3A68A6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 03:32:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.146 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.146 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.379, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8=0.152] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wiogdH2EDKGY for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 03:32:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pz0-f204.google.com (mail-pz0-f204.google.com [209.85.222.204]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197AA3A67A6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 03:32:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by pzk42 with SMTP id 42so735166pzk.31 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:32:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=c6XLhAP3jKnCB4l3Wkd9+ttAy7sHfybUx69HbdcuMPo=; b=DedoN7K1V1eAuExfC9aLqzvFfqVE3iCA9WMwTkSY43BlThTJtxPcRvQ8YCfe2lbs70 0a5YFtpMf3yw6uCtslsjftcLcW2DNfGJ8SApVc+QoFssp3mnvkWL3pBX5K4vDBl7pbsj mieYyIgmASJv51hs2zJkBXzvHk/cG5E25xWyg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=eM0+BF3mh8HpWtiQfnmWQk4guEAqc6s+UrDmEDunS6uaJkU9HYHBqr27r9pP8bCgsR zdkMN8lyG1W/RG0C5mGbY3cIyLuo33zFLy58GTyUuCGkwbWLB6m/MdNRFn5dF0TA2EAl 9QHKqrz2bk/BoiCdujJiG+R8UmPubaOn0UUmI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: dykim6@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.9.11 with SMTP id 11mr426907wfi.101.1257507176939; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:32:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <3938a04d0911051947r38700183raa5d11965805a6aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:32:56 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 50bb784ae371be67 Message-ID: <3938a04d0911060332i4b36923fr3e94964057ac7eea@mail.gmail.com> From: Dae Young KIM To: Ole Jacobsen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502b00d9580100477b2346c Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] =?utf-8?b?V2h5IHRoZSBuYW1lIEhpcm9zaGltKOW6g+Wztikg?= =?utf-8?q?-_=27wide_island=27=3F?= X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:32:38 -0000 --00504502b00d9580100477b2346c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Indeed. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > Look at the map! > > There are lots of islands and lots of rivers in a delta. > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, Dae Young KIM wrote: > > > Is there a big island nearby? Or is Hiroshima itself an island? > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > DY > > http://cnu.kr/~dykim > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > -- Regards, DY http://cnu.kr/~dykim --00504502b00d9580100477b2346c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Indeed.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:40 PM, O= le Jacobsen <ole@cisc= o.com> wrote:
Look at the map!

There are lots of islands and lots of rivers in a delta.

Ole


Ole J. Jacobsen
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Cisco Systems
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--00504502b00d9580100477b2346c-- From daisuke@kotachi.com Fri Nov 6 04:15:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617EE3A68A8 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:15:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.523 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.523 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, SARE_SUB_ENC_ISO2022JP=0.413] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lGsEuYdejnCC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:15:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from kitokito.ecchu.jp (kitokito.ecchu.jp [211.19.197.6]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CC93A6801 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:15:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.201.10] (unknown [IPv6:2001:200:526:101:b5c4:f55a:b468:31cb]) by kitokito.ecchu.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B1FBA1CC73; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:15:41 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:15:35 +0900 From: Kotani Daisuke To: dykim@cnu.kr In-Reply-To: <3938a04d0911060332i4b36923fr3e94964057ac7eea@mail.gmail.com> References: <3938a04d0911060332i4b36923fr3e94964057ac7eea@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <20091106211535.A69A.92DF8F91@kotachi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.51.07 [ja] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] =?iso-2022-jp?b?V2h5IHRoZSBuYW1lIEhpcm9zaGltKA==?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCOS1FZxsoQikgIC0gJ3dpZGUgaXNsYW5kJz8=?= X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:15:23 -0000 According to Japanese Wikipedia, in 1589, Terumoto Mori, who was a samurai, named this area "Hiroshima" and built a castle called "Hiroshima jo" in the island, which he thought was the largest island in the delta. On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:32:56 +0900 Dae Young KIM wrote: > Indeed. > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > > Look at the map! > > > > There are lots of islands and lots of rivers in a delta. > > > > Ole > > > > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > > Cisco Systems > > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > > > > > On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, Dae Young KIM wrote: > > > > > Is there a big island nearby? Or is Hiroshima itself an island? > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > > > > DY > > > http://cnu.kr/~dykim > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > > > > -- > Regards, > > DY > http://cnu.kr/~dykim -- Kotani Daisuke PGP Key Fingerprint: 7D37 2B7A BBF8 3393 B287 6751 10A7 DDAD E98F E3F0 From scott.brim@gmail.com Fri Nov 6 04:22:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF29B3A699F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:22:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.065 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.065 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.535, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26ow4CTBiWzE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:22:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gx0-f228.google.com (mail-gx0-f228.google.com [209.85.217.228]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE24E3A6947 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:22:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so903153gxk.9 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:22:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=COYujdL3y/GPBbs0QF3J4J09KR1bzIb5zvV9JqETLiU=; b=CqE/eWUHJGYsjvpC0wDmNONOiE0kZbUAhc64sMSosXkpm9QyA8FoQOSKXr7PnNFV1d uDPtqz/0AlB4gRt9bDgMrPFNPPLVrzo+dvRmvZix+vje65czA2Qg8ypYtF+tkPGMXCz/ gt4xKOLbdQujMoQdvJGuy5x3bj5W/zqqQCQ5A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=wsoQ9lNkbXM7CxhyLRPpNT3hz2j4AHZ5TWkH0Bi52gFO1TkwrHAwZvUrr28G3MNS2y PhSnNBSKbEiIGrvtTcjt4hAWU36SpMiraE3MIIYS/Vl2IETridrBBHgDQkraBHQ1/y9l bhyKBPrWtOPHZj4ZmKRwvQhKL4K+D+qpvkQhI= Received: by 10.150.174.16 with SMTP id w16mr7685411ybe.79.1257510147106; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbrim-mbp.local (64-104-46-217.cisco.com [64.104.46.217]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm5027ywd.37.2009.11.06.04.22.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:22:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF414FE.9060103@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:22:22 +0900 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale Worley References: <1257439860.3738.10.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <4af3163f.0ec5100a.235c.ffffb469@mx.google.com> <1257446546.3738.22.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> In-Reply-To: <1257446546.3738.22.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] How to pronounce "Hiroshima" X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:22:08 -0000 Dale Worley allegedly wrote on 11/06/2009 3:42 AM: > Good point: Now that you mention it, the vowel's (i/ee) nature is > somewhat between the English "short i" and "long e". What I noticed > more is that they are both of rather short duration, whereas I think > that any "long e" in English is prolonged a bit. Since we're geeking out about this, as non-Japanese who likes languages ... "hiro" and "shima" are etymologically two separate words. If "shima" appeared on its own the "shi" would be stressed. However, there is a tendency in Japanese to almost elide the "i" when "shi" appears after the beginning of a word, and through use that tendency has come to dominate the original meaning. Dae Young KIM allegedly wrote on 11/06/2009 4:59 AM: > BTW, about ASCII.. did you know that the Korean characters, Hanguel, is > one of the simplest and most effective phonetic script? A topic for a > possibly future IETF in Corea. Now, it's about Japan and Hiroshima. Agreed. As a non-native (again) I find Korean writing to be admirably efficient. swb From dykim6@gmail.com Fri Nov 6 04:31:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BDC3A676A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:31:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.919, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8=0.152] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IRMbWsAgq6ba for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:31:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pz0-f204.google.com (mail-pz0-f204.google.com [209.85.222.204]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECEFC3A672E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:31:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by pzk42 with SMTP id 42so763528pzk.31 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:31:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=p0jMCTU2fuuYEjLjF6/nVG3kBcVbtMgpv61tLQWbNeE=; b=qili34qJ2vA5ARgs7fFujbj+7+3rioffCIJHzj7NYYeDVDcQtY9hMHLKpIfRf+OSRV 5qWqvkJHE5eKzk8uOPJ5iHrqxoVtm48B/kcCVyauJG60yNX3NaBD8k+d6SGGdOkGxSoN UPS8zPJKOqTBYjoeteqHghVZ9m9bGBI0DoFqk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=ZpgljtXwksEenYyMhE02sKO6Tgtr4i2LQqRt/p9LDLLDe9eFZAcEutrWXmKdqm+afD dNczGswTbYiM/Gk7XMbMpx9pyCakB9t+ZEEBhJZkqNlGmwz9fIO4XxvUW8f2AEBvtbeR lo2VUT3W5tMfXenjrLz8EVQx6kxrvaSSHFoLE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: dykim6@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.2.17 with SMTP id 17mr431903wfb.98.1257510692730; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:31:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091106211535.A69A.92DF8F91@kotachi.com> References: <3938a04d0911060332i4b36923fr3e94964057ac7eea@mail.gmail.com> <20091106211535.A69A.92DF8F91@kotachi.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:31:32 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f68ae37dcbc03c9f Message-ID: <3938a04d0911060431i257da0cchc6b696686d2eadcc@mail.gmail.com> From: Dae Young KIM To: Kotani Daisuke Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502ae0224371d0477b3060e Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] =?utf-8?b?V2h5IHRoZSBuYW1lIEhpcm9zaGltKOW6g+Wztikg?= =?utf-8?q?-_=27wide_island=27=3F?= X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:31:14 -0000 --00504502ae0224371d0477b3060e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This should be the most exact interpretation. In fact, the land slices in the delta can surely be called islands. 2009/11/6 Kotani Daisuke > According to Japanese Wikipedia, > in 1589, Terumoto Mori, who was a samurai, named this area "Hiroshima" > and built a castle called "Hiroshima jo" in the island, which he thought > was the largest island in the delta. > > On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:32:56 +0900 > Dae Young KIM wrote: > > > Indeed. > > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > > > > Look at the map! > > > > > > There are lots of islands and lots of rivers in a delta. > > > > > > Ole > > > > > > > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > > > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > > > Cisco Systems > > > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > > > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, Dae Young KIM wrote: > > > > > > > Is there a big island nearby? Or is Hiroshima itself an island? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > DY > > > > http://cnu.kr/~dykim < > http://cnu.kr/%7Edykim> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > 76attendees mailing list > > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > DY > > http://cnu.kr/~dykim > > -- > Kotani Daisuke > PGP Key Fingerprint: > 7D37 2B7A BBF8 3393 B287 6751 10A7 DDAD E98F E3F0 > > -- Regards, DY http://cnu.kr/~dykim --00504502ae0224371d0477b3060e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This should be the most exact interpretation.

In fact, the land slic= es in the delta can surely be called islands.

2009/11/6 Kotani Daisuke <daisuke@kotachi.com>
According to Japa= nese Wikipedia,
in 1589, Terumoto Mori, who was a samurai, named this area "Hiroshima&= quot;
and built a castle called "Hiroshima jo" in the island, which he = thought
was the largest island in the delta.

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:32:56 +0900
Dae Young KIM <dykim@cnu.kr> wrot= e:

> Indeed.
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com> wrote:
>
> > Look at the map!
> >
> > There are lots of islands and lots of rivers in a delta.
> >
> > Ole
> >
> >
> > Ole J. Jacobsen
> > Editor and Publisher, =A0The Internet Protocol Journal
> > Cisco Systems
> > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 =A0 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
> > E-mail: ole@cisco.com =A0URL= : http://www.cisco.c= om/ipj
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, Dae Young KIM wrote:
> >
> > > Is there a big island nearby? Or is Hiroshima itself an isla= nd?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > DY
> > > h= ttp://cnu.kr/~dykim <http://cnu.kr/%7Edykim>
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > 76attendees mailing list
> > 76attendees@ietf.org<= br> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> DY
> http://cnu.kr/~dy= kim

--
Kotani Daisuke <daisuke@kotachi.c= om>
PGP Key Fingerprint:
7D37 2B7A BBF8 3393 B287 =A06751 10A7 DDAD E98F E3F0




--
Regards,

= DY
http://cnu.kr/~dykim
--00504502ae0224371d0477b3060e-- From mglt.ietf@gmail.com Fri Nov 6 04:33:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9043A6843 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:33:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.523 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8wgQEAm-NhPd for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:33:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com (mail-fx0-f215.google.com [209.85.220.215]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116873A698A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:33:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so200380fxm.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:33:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=kn7El7US2ztX4izwF9vg6GrGNGEKX7Nb2NlRN8HqqOo=; b=FYV6VmrMyoVmZNvba7hYtAMzIXSjAbLAqeq2X1U9dMdb3igb2OH50etRrYcQFvv5ee AC0Nrq+JCMR2va/FUFRgU/B/EEKRys0lIrONjK1ViS2PzDHq/ZlPhHG7iGP0U1gb1Tr/ PkXFO5NIZoWsn409I3ISW3empBEXiyMUKBVOk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=TArG3inYQY+HkTd9kp8VBDsvLwI6OJ19jWyie25WN5b2swhBMIwCam2bSp0SwLFAVT Ss5oXdUkewEOHiFi991l4f4XHPQeBMLzMPvo7Q6jc9NHDTG2Kx+em4viAfvSvWhOfdVy oFEOH5YPLqg4YYTNvq9i/QssVH9u3wSH/1h2s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.102.14.4 with SMTP id 4mr1671853mun.2.1257510827874; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:33:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:33:47 +0100 Message-ID: <51eafbcb0911060433m1bd56befua7946c86bbba72a5@mail.gmail.com> From: Daniel Migault To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b9a8a325b9e0477b30ebe Subject: [76attendees] JST-ANR : Japanese - French joint projects X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:33:32 -0000 --0016363b9a8a325b9e0477b30ebe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi folks, Japanese - French projects funded by JST and ANR has been opened on 2009 October 22, and it MUST be finalized early january 2010. We would like to take the opportunity that the IETF takes place in Japan to meet people (from Japan and France) that might be likely to join us or interested in any of the following areas : Naming System : DNS/DNSSEC. On our side for now more focused on cache servers, homegateway and end user devices then authoritative servers. Our topics include architecture design of DNS cache platform, traffic analyses, development of cache monitoring tools, anti-phishing detection, DNSSEC resolution for end user, DNSSEC deployment in ISP networks... IPsec : IPsec in a mobile and multihoming environment, design of an IPsec API.... If you have any interest in those areas, please let me know so that we can arrange a face to face meeting. For more information please look at : - JST : http://www.jst.go.jp/sicp/announce_anrjoint.html - ANR : http://www.agence-nationale-recherche.fr/AAP-266-ANR-JST.html Regards, Daniel -- Daniel Migault Orange Labs -- Security +33 6 70 72 69 58 --0016363b9a8a325b9e0477b30ebe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0Hi folks,

Japanese - French projects funded by JST and ANR has b= een opened on 2009 October 22, and it MUST be finalized early january 2010.=

We would like to take the opportunity that the IETF takes place in= Japan to meet people (from Japan and France) that might be likely to join = us or interested in any of the following areas :
=A0
Naming System : DNS/DNSSEC. On our side for now more focused on cach= e servers, homegateway and end user devices then authoritative servers. Our= topics include architecture design of DNS cache platform, traffic analyses= , development of cache monitoring tools, anti-phishing detection, DNSSEC re= solution for end user, DNSSEC deployment in ISP networks...

IPsec : IPsec in a mobile and multihoming environment,=A0 design of an = IPsec API....

If you have any interest in those areas, please let m= e know so that we can arrange a face to face meeting.

For more infor= mation please look at :

=A0=A0 - JST : http://www.jst.go.jp/sicp/announce_anrjoint.html
=A0=A0 - ANR := = http://www.agence-nationale-recherche.fr/AAP-266-ANR-JST.html

Regards,

Daniel


--
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--0016363b9a8a325b9e0477b30ebe-- From dykim6@gmail.com Fri Nov 6 05:54:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DB43A6A90 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 05:54:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.443 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.443 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.155, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r1-qPTHJFLHk for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 05:54:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-px0-f171.google.com (mail-px0-f171.google.com [209.85.216.171]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111F83A6A93 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 05:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by pxi1 with SMTP id 1so798562pxi.32 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:54:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6TdnX92nQsGF4UYQPGI9ISOObcfbSoMOKfgGDYutTJA=; b=dcopm5r8+8yXPHiYgT53hFB9hpptMbl5GvCHKW+P9f5hBqRJPcxfTuosE/vW507w18 j0v6XJ8zlNHfbpbP0TvOZzSA49t9XUvQTKRgUUllMyVS7pyMp1erwQbA+cpB1Rek1uUp TBafZmZRoW8MXCT+GuL1zHqPby1DwSDw73dLY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=P37K4vBvC1flQ9uEowAcBpnWiNnS8FmoPMcPUMZdgR1D+LTkAiPN0CsXZmiI0a+Pnz yNtCwwi8N9FZS8cv8B6dxtFpweFL64+R0hJYNKk/X7h0TR6jOx8uozV5pAlNuxAj1sX5 AdGWkDNeXcaZ+QG2hfLKJqyJdiM99b1HNRIbk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.2.17 with SMTP id 17mr439541wfb.98.1257515691271; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:54:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF414FE.9060103@gmail.com> References: <1257439860.3738.10.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <4af3163f.0ec5100a.235c.ffffb469@mx.google.com> <1257446546.3738.22.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <4AF414FE.9060103@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:54:51 +0900 Message-ID: <3938a04d0911060554j25f5dce1yd96ec4971cdf8c85@mail.gmail.com> From: Dae Young KIM To: Scott Brim Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502ae0213e6c30477b43053 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] How to pronounce "Hiroshima" X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:54:47 -0000 --00504502ae0213e6c30477b43053 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Scott Brim wrote: > > Since we're geeking out about this, as non-Japanese who likes languages > ... "hiro" and "shima" are etymologically two separate words. If > "shima" appeared on its own the "shi" would be stressed. However, there > is a tendency in Japanese to almost elide the "i" when "shi" appears > after the beginning of a word, and through use that tendency has come to > dominate the original meaning. > Another way of looking at the issue is that... I think accent really doesn't matter much in the Japanese language... in contrast to English, if I'm right. You put an accent at a wrong vowel in an English word, you won't be understood. But not quite the same with Japanese. Wrong accent might be more of dialect. There's no strict sense of accent as I know. -- Regards, DY http://cnu.kr/~dykim --00504502ae0213e6c30477b43053 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Scott Brim <scott.brim@gmail.com> wrote:

Since we're geeking out about this, as non-Japanese who likes lan= guages
... "hiro" and "shima" are etymologically two separate = words. =A0If
"shima" appeared on its own the "shi" would be stressed= . =A0However, there
is a tendency in Japanese to almost elide the "i" when "shi&= quot; appears
after the beginning of a word, and through use that tendency has come to dominate the original meaning.

Another way of look= ing at the issue is that... I think accent really doesn't matter much i= n the Japanese language... in contrast to English, if I'm right. You pu= t an accent at a wrong vowel in an English word, you won't be understoo= d. But not quite the same with Japanese.=A0 Wrong accent might be more of d= ialect. There's no strict sense of accent as I know.

--
Regards,

DY
http://cnu.kr/~dykim
--00504502ae0213e6c30477b43053-- From sm@elandsys.com Fri Nov 6 06:01:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536903A698C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 06:01:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NMW6pqgcQwmm for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 06:01:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.elandsys.com (mail.elandsys.com [208.69.177.125]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559C03A68D4 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 06:01:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from sm-PC.elandsys.com ([219.163.11.104]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.elandsys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA6E1V0d028183; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 06:01:35 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1257516096; x=1257602496; bh=X75yuiVj6SS9Gu7WKFgB25p0+qU=; h=Message-Id:Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=TWtEjsdIxUA3TvID37dlMl5OLfFiGV4iE1MOUx1ViuUBkcwwxtaZ24Hb73w99vOan pcJlgeIutChQaTudkxFTRWIW/5ULdhvtGFuJO0+GK7M63xtw2GN4BHWeuy4TeZ9NVr EWb7V+BOOXrlssKHab4ZxJ2/gOQQXP3thd5eUa4Q= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20091106060047.08ddc7a8@elandsys.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:01:31 -0800 To: Peter Saint-Andre From: SM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:01:13 -0000 Hi Peter, Once you are off the plane, you take a monorail to the immigration area. There is a line for foreigners on the right-hand side. Once you are cleared, you collect your luggage and go through Customs. That should take around 45 minutes. After customs, take the stairs to the first floor, then turn left and walk up to the JR (train) office. There is a green sign. But a ticket for Hiroshima. You will be given three tickets the size of credit cards. One is for the fare from Kansai Airport to the Hiroshima City Zone and the other two are for the two legs. You can get a reserved seat. The total cost is 12,300/- JPY. There was 9 minutes between arriving in Shinosaka and catching the Shinkansen Hikari. See whether you need a longer duration before you purchase the train ticket. Ask the person at the JR office for the track number of your train to Shinosaka. It may be Track 4. The gates are opposite the JR Office. Once the train arrives, find your car number and your seat. There will be a few stops before Shinosaka. The train station are announced in English and there is also a sign in English. The ride to Shinosaka takes 53 minutes. The time of departure and time of arrival is printed on the ticket. Once in Shinosaka, see the overhead monitors for the track number for the train you are catching. It may be Track 21 or 22. You need to go up one level to catch the train to Hiroshima. Once you arrive at Hiroshima Station, you need to go downstairs to proceed to the exit. Hand in your tickets to the attendant, then proceed to the left side to exit the station. You will see the Hotel Granvia on the left. The taxi stand is on the right. The taxi ride is less than 1500 JPY. Regards, -sm From gg55go@gmail.com Fri Nov 6 06:52:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F65F3A69CC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 06:52:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zM5pU6e9HCOi for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 06:52:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCAE3A69A2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 06:52:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so217841fga.13 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:53:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/AgBKz+EwFz60W9d93B77LI6V3d0QI/62+usu5bskW0=; b=WVjj3T+kqm0PoX62WQ3BNEIxOUMWnJX7IAwA8JGdaEmEDV1KXIgAz4KWSCn+Pdh4VJ ODZyJdEE+8Xc30rTtgIQOqyDSaelYOrKk7AXJ13O1eCR7la4KDb7JEQ6kMKMGf2bxQJy ythAa48foOj6rmGpAFh8kLtOFJMzAc58jGVdk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aSROuFB83r7iZvmGuhzQ3PKoANRnXKXNfiy4vdfrWfrjCEEeBay72a3QeLIVI8T6La TJ0uA5y6NxpnlkAyh+cEupCR29AGajZ+Nf5cT0UO3qHMhJHdAtLJK/3XXkjaEeX0NbP8 o04xl2RWc3h2jw9NKpA0QbBr/4KBstxIvTKKU= Received: by 10.86.13.37 with SMTP id 37mr5857308fgm.58.1257519183267; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:53:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.157? (g54.neu.co.jp [61.194.28.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d8sm1167996fga.18.2009.11.06.06.53.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:53:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF43844.30101@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:52:52 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JINMEI Tatuya References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer, part III X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:52:44 -0000 Konnichiwa Jinmei-san From: JINMEI Tatuya Date: Fri Nov 06 2009 18:03:16 GMT+0900 > Kawaguchi-san, > > Sorry for the delayed response. I've been so busy this week... > > At Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:03:35 +0900, > Go Kawaguchi wrote: > >> Isn't below the quotation useful to obtain fulsal courts? >> I hope so. > > Frankly, I have no idea. I myself don't have an additional resource > (mainly time) to manage organizing an additional futsal session (in > case you've not noticed, I've already booked one court for Thursday > evening)... I know you've got i-fut ujina from 20:30 to 21:30 on Thursday. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=34.364822N,132.473925E > .... If you're willing to organize the additional session, > whether it's on Thursday or not, please feel free to do so. OK. I'll try to book somewhere as soon as possible, and I'll respond to 76attendees, and write into http://www.doodle.com/xm4iewd7pbcn3nkp > > p.s. hmm.. we've finally got 20 on Thursday evening. Maybe it's > still okay, assuming there'll be last minute cancels and we'll have > three teams (6-7 each), but we're certainly almost full. If we are > going to have more possible participants, we'll probably need another > session to accommodate all. OK. Thank you GO From stpeter@stpeter.im Fri Nov 6 07:02:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6518E3A6891 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 07:02:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.568 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.568 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.031, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v3KTXqIee7nY for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 07:02:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD4C3A6825 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 07:02:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from squire.local (dsl-175-187.dynamic-dsl.frii.net [216.17.175.187]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5A87740D09; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:02:24 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AF43A7F.9000405@stpeter.im> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:02:23 -0700 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SM References: <6.2.5.6.2.20091106060047.08ddc7a8@elandsys.com> In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20091106060047.08ddc7a8@elandsys.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:02:03 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thanks, that is very helpful! On 11/6/09 7:01 AM, SM wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Once you are off the plane, you take a monorail to the immigration > area. There is a line for foreigners on the right-hand side. Once you > are cleared, you collect your luggage and go through Customs. That > should take around 45 minutes. > > After customs, take the stairs to the first floor, then turn left and > walk up to the JR (train) office. There is a green sign. But a ticket > for Hiroshima. You will be given three tickets the size of credit > cards. One is for the fare from Kansai Airport to the Hiroshima City > Zone and the other two are for the two legs. You can get a reserved > seat. The total cost is 12,300/- JPY. There was 9 minutes between > arriving in Shinosaka and catching the Shinkansen Hikari. See whether > you need a longer duration before you purchase the train ticket. > > Ask the person at the JR office for the track number of your train to > Shinosaka. It may be Track 4. The gates are opposite the JR Office. > Once the train arrives, find your car number and your seat. There will > be a few stops before Shinosaka. The train station are announced in > English and there is also a sign in English. The ride to Shinosaka > takes 53 minutes. The time of departure and time of arrival is printed > on the ticket. > > Once in Shinosaka, see the overhead monitors for the track number for > the train you are catching. It may be Track 21 or 22. You need to go > up one level to catch the train to Hiroshima. > > Once you arrive at Hiroshima Station, you need to go downstairs to > proceed to the exit. Hand in your tickets to the attendant, then > proceed to the left side to exit the station. You will see the Hotel > Granvia on the left. The taxi stand is on the right. The taxi ride is > less than 1500 JPY. > > Regards, > -sm > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkr0On8ACgkQNL8k5A2w/vzROwCgm535tAkKLFdHBbSto0L/Ik/L uqwAoK7XQaD+mCuN2GSdQ7PbctNIIcie =vGXG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From scott.brim@gmail.com Fri Nov 6 12:51:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E83928C106 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:51:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6C8vb74FY25B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:51:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com (mail-fx0-f215.google.com [209.85.220.215]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2353928C0F2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:51:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so374589fxm.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:51:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=O+JIt2JqiA1tiSSr/FFLr0rZFCXza63tRJIqE+caVoQ=; b=jttA5AcqMHIFc9WxAFCEbTb3cFVcSqQhWBPjML9kYF8KTFGz0i9PLPZUcu1blFtCND 2kO3yNYae+6PX0Yd9JY3Enf3/mv1I1aQP6iUzJKYUzbbZwKDkw5bkWFDZGANf29WJk3k bxfuzWQ576PNxsNtfE37BsNiYo1nSU+kxW17Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=D4UBnyCyhHNMCtGT7289mshwMtb14oMW9vTKWSxWWuphXZQje7Ogriw//E1sijRk6L Lu85hbcoy1/W/JnDFGtOgXjpYxORDFVtCKMUYIN46JCYcyYn0CxH3PzOLPNHMXYwiMrI IXYhhz+jJQQHV4I4Gz81nE7arE8e7rUEaPxVc= Received: by 10.204.160.154 with SMTP id n26mr1243734bkx.90.1257540708614; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbrim-mbp.local ([219.163.11.104]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm157372bwz.3.2009.11.06.12.51.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:51:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF48C5E.8030001@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:51:42 +0900 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SM References: <6.2.5.6.2.20091106060047.08ddc7a8@elandsys.com> In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20091106060047.08ddc7a8@elandsys.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:51:31 -0000 btw if you exit customs on the right hand side (north), there is an ATM directly across from you. From scott.brim@gmail.com Fri Nov 6 12:52:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2897C28C1AA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:52:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15OundS-y4yF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:52:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A60128C0F2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:52:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so1620775bwz.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:53:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6XMY7MphS6klNi3OoZQRNg+fnre3Zj6cQOPQoz5L/aI=; b=GLbAr8Wi/GzFBdNzbh3+eVyQs9ovwXKD4repdX0f2a+H2Z4/SB5L6Qw5PmBZwjuYeX yYUoNmBODzi9J7UZenzpvFEuxLzInM1cYqBJc3jQe6TDmz1c09S3x833tVlqt9Hf2pG0 Y03YAlnqt3flZPuFEeDamTrnbZSTmGIWJx2A0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=BFi4hb0V8C96uMsgRQS0V2ZRHlS7Wl9C8l3LalTG5/IGN7YSSJnA4KJQSR6JhgpG4c jgN3Wjp3q23LQ9zfRJI9R0Br6Jqp3ku5XuF1e0gdUD4tXEEqyyXhYYj7ClejPf8U3UI7 tv8oGxArMWivlNB7fct7oEN3nmVa6SRH232VI= Received: by 10.204.143.151 with SMTP id v23mr2358790bku.169.1257540783549; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:53:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbrim-mbp.local ([219.163.11.104]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm156430bwz.6.2009.11.06.12.53.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:53:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF48CAA.3010109@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:52:58 +0900 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SM References: <6.2.5.6.2.20091106060047.08ddc7a8@elandsys.com> In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20091106060047.08ddc7a8@elandsys.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:52:46 -0000 SM allegedly wrote on 11/06/2009 11:01 PM: > Once in Shinosaka, see the overhead monitors for the track number for > the train you are catching. It may be Track 21 or 22. You need to go > up one level to catch the train to Hiroshima. I was on a Hikari train, track 20. There are lots of signs. From weiler@watson.org Fri Nov 6 13:03:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DA93A6859 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:03:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.496 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.496 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.103, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aGbwRzZuButo for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:03:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1143A67E5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:03:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA6L46E6043527 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:04:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from weiler@watson.org) Received: from localhost (weiler@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nA6L46xM043524 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:04:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from weiler@watson.org) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: weiler owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:04:06 -0500 (EST) From: Samuel Weiler To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:04:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: [76attendees] Warnings re: Oriental Hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:03:44 -0000 The Oriental Hotel has turned off their air conditioning for the winter. I'm finding my room too warm for comfortable sleeping. Also, the in-room net is wired instead of wireless. And it's NAT'ed. Anyone else found a hotel that you like and that still has availability? -- Sam From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Fri Nov 6 13:24:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCDE3A67E5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:24:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.187 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.187 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qriBVqP52sUy for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D1D3A67AD for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:24:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.0.148] ([219.163.11.104]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nA6LOht2064487 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:24:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20091106060047.08ddc7a8@elandsys.com> References: <6.2.5.6.2.20091106060047.08ddc7a8@elandsys.com> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 06:24:41 +0900 To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:24:23 -0000 Printing off and giving it to the folks in the JR ticket office should help a lot. BTW, last night we had 11 people \on the SFO->KIX flight who thought we might as well sit together on the trains to Hiroshima. That was, in fact, doable, but with a bunch of effort on the part of ticket agent. (She became the stuckee of the four agents because her English was clearly the best.) We warned her that there might be other big groups who might want the same, and she said "no problem" with a slightly worried smile. Something that even seasoned travellers were surprised about: you get a pile of tickets and you stick them as a pile into the gate machines. The machine determines which ones to give you back. When you finally leave at Hiroshima, your last one gets sucked away. Oh, and as for food: there are a good number of dinner-in-a-box places in Shin-Osaka, with a reasonable selection in the 1000 yen range. There was even one on the platform for our train going to Hiroshima, but there were also plenty downstairs in the giant hall. The vending machines on the KIX->Shin-Osaka train only had over-priced drinks, however. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium From kato@wide.ad.jp Fri Nov 6 13:55:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526993A67AD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:55:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A9FlJVNapX8w for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:55:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F643A67AC for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:55:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:112:21d:72ff:fe92:bf5b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2926A80679; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 06:55:43 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0EDE7D1D; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 06:55:42 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:55:42 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091107.065542.144806024.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: weiler@watson.org From: Akira Kato In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Warnings re: Oriental Hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:55:22 -0000 > Also, the in-room net is wired instead of wireless. And it's NAT'ed. While we won't be able to provide you wireless access in Oriental hotel, IETF network will be available at around noon today (Nov 7th). -- Akira Kato From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Fri Nov 6 14:00:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E374A3A677E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:00:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.117 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.117 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.929, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fYw7bM+wn+kr for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:00:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA9E3A67AC for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:00:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.0.148] ([219.163.11.104]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nA6M0WoY066357 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:00:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:00:30 +0900 To: Samuel Weiler , 76attendees@ietf.org From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [76attendees] Warnings re: Oriental Hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:00:12 -0000 At 4:04 PM -0500 11/6/09, Samuel Weiler wrote: >The Oriental Hotel has turned off their air conditioning for the winter. I'm finding my room too warm for comfortable sleeping. FWIW, there is still air conditioning in the Mitsui Garden, but the lowest it goes is 20C, which is too warm for many people. >Also, the in-room net is wired instead of wireless. And it's NAT'ed. Ditto at the Mitusi Garden, but that should not be a problem for many people. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium From rhe@nosc.ja.net Fri Nov 6 16:10:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1213F3A6AB1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:10:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xVQgIGBjhm7a for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from nosc.ja.net (nosc.ja.net [IPv6:2001:630:0:40::14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0A23A6AAD for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from vpn-134.ja.net ([128.86.24.134]) by nosc.ja.net with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N6YtU-0006K4-5O; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:11:04 +0000 Message-ID: <4AF4BB14.4040603@nosc.ja.net> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:11:00 +0000 From: Rob Evans User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Hoffman References: <6.2.5.6.2.20091106060047.08ddc7a8@elandsys.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Kansai/Hiroshima Train Station: ATM/travel to hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:10:43 -0000 > Something that even seasoned travellers were surprised about: you get > a pile of tickets and you stick them as a pile into the gate > machines. The machine determines which ones to give you back. When > you finally leave at Hiroshima, your last one gets sucked away. I think I got to grips with this. You will have a "fare" ticket and a "seat reservation ticket" for each journey, possibly more than one of the latter if you have multiple legs with reserved seats. To get to the Shinkansen platform you will probably have to go through two sets of gates, the first gives you access to the general platforms and you can do this with just the "fare" ticket (putting both in didn't work at one of the stations). The second gate is for the Shinkansen platforms and you'll need to put both the fare and seat reservation tickets in together, on top of each other (it doesn't matter which one is on top). Leaving the train the process is reversed. Put both tickets into the first gate, which will keep the seat reservation. Put the remaining ticket, the fare ticket, into the second gate at the exit from the platforms. The gate will keep that ticket, but you're now out of the station. I'm sure there are going to be other subtleties (and I'm sure someone will point out this is already described on Ole's or the local host's website), perhaps if you're using a station only with Shinkansen there is just one gate, but this worked for me... Cheers, Rob From keith@internetnz.net.nz Fri Nov 6 16:31:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB67C28C139 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:31:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aLbatNJuuADs for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:31:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from gutentight.internetnz.net.nz (gutentight.internetnz.net.nz [202.46.176.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FFB28C13E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:31:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gutentight.internetnz.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7DD95A08 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:31:36 +1300 (NZDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at internetnz.net.nz Received: from gutentight.internetnz.net.nz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gutentight.internetnz.net.nz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O7SbTpLYpC4k for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:31:27 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from [133.93.144.33] (host-144-33.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.144.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by gutentight.internetnz.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0DA95A02 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:31:26 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <4AF4BFD6.5070501@internetnz.net.nz> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:31:18 +1300 From: Keith Davidson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Warnings re: Oriental Hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:31:14 -0000 Paul Hoffman wrote: > At 4:04 PM -0500 11/6/09, Samuel Weiler wrote: >> The Oriental Hotel has turned off their air conditioning for the winter. I'm finding my room too warm for comfortable sleeping. > > FWIW, there is still air conditioning in the Mitsui Garden, but the lowest it goes is 20C, which is too warm for many people. Sunroute hotel air conditioning not working, but at least I can open the window, but still too warm for sleeping. But the view over the river and the Peace Park is great. >> Also, the in-room net is wired instead of wireless. And it's NAT'ed. > > Ditto at the Mitusi Garden, but that should not be a problem for many people. Sunroute hotel also has wired only, but a totally open network, so I have plugged in a wireless access point and can use both laptop and iphone wi-fi simultaneously. And btw I have configured the access point to be totally open so if you see an access point that has my name attached, feel free to connect through it... Only downsides to the Suroute hotel - my room is the size of a small shoebox, and the chair is too close to the floor. Cheers Keith Davidson From gg55go@gmail.com Fri Nov 6 19:56:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D32E28C15D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:56:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.055 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.055 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.056, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_63=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gF76XucHlIuK for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:56:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f183.google.com (mail-yw0-f183.google.com [209.85.211.183]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7A528C14B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:56:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywh13 with SMTP id 13so1729455ywh.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:57:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YinSWW8jeY8uygnjZ5Y1iOOZ1TAHUfWe2QksSSM5RdE=; b=ulIKlLChSNGjLFj0e0jGdfNyFqrONSTDi3pA4SNPKH6TPPSjN+pyRmVbQxNQGvJpZs BfveabFd67EpK+jL2l1qPSu2AH44B2788jF3Mm4W36YlBXXyi75oHbFbtXUp6XsbRnnY QbLCoXhJe8xXTCwLRsNvlJCip0O873IVvWlz4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FyeqhIgAi1RfpFB4GX/MER3Q0LaNEjLSPFXSol1vaovsAnto7Zf2YstCrO6xZ9J4Gr YS2+hQnyrzz0qPymViR/j10YEGKhoJzC4Dhdo3+yt4Fdhy4m9IDVB0uWbY00CgRxvQp6 rElzcGz5TkT0CyMBFubLXjVWjA8DOJEBY/r6o= Received: by 10.91.203.38 with SMTP id f38mr11019606agq.60.1257566236365; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:57:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.25? (192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm318724yxf.65.2009.11.06.19.57.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:57:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:57:08 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Futsal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:00-20:30 X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:56:59 -0000 Hi Futsal(and soccer) freaks Finally! We've booked futsal courts which are the same as Mr. JINMEI's place. (But changed the time) Confirm the followings info, and participate, please! -- summary -- Booked name: IETF Date: Sun. 8th Wed. 11th Thu. 12th Time: 19:00-20:30 (same all days) Court Name: I-Fut Ujina Address: 4-8 Ujina-Higashi 3-chome Minami-Ku Hiroshima city Fee: if player 20 person, around 1000 yen, or if 15 person, around 1250 yen Some more info: http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ GO Kawaguchi Subject: Re:[76attendees] Soccer, part III From: JINMEI Tatuya Date: Fri Nov 06 2009 18:03:16 GMT+0900 > ... I've already booked one court for Thursday > evening). If you're willing to organize the additional session, > whether it's on Thursday or not, please feel free to do so. From jmauch@us.ntt.net Fri Nov 6 20:12:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D925F3A6886 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:12:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id asOpm1nQnsdO for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:12:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from puck.nether.net (puck.nether.net [IPv6:2001:418:3f4::5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965F43A6844 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:12:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-144-80.meeting.ietf.org (host-144-80.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.144.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by puck.nether.net (8.14.3/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nA74Dd2a060152 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:13:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jmauch@us.ntt.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Jared Mauch In-Reply-To: <4AF4BFD6.5070501@internetnz.net.nz> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:13:21 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <4AF4BFD6.5070501@internetnz.net.nz> To: Keith Davidson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (puck.nether.net [204.42.254.5]); Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:13:43 -0500 (EST) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Warnings re: Oriental Hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:12:43 -0000 On Nov 6, 2009, at 7:31 PM, Keith Davidson wrote: > > > Paul Hoffman wrote: >> At 4:04 PM -0500 11/6/09, Samuel Weiler wrote: >>> The Oriental Hotel has turned off their air conditioning for the >>> winter. I'm finding my room too warm for comfortable sleeping. >> FWIW, there is still air conditioning in the Mitsui Garden, but the >> lowest it goes is 20C, which is too warm for many people. > > Sunroute hotel air conditioning not working, but at least I can open > the window, but still too warm for sleeping. But the view over the > river and the Peace Park is great. > >>> Also, the in-room net is wired instead of wireless. And it's >>> NAT'ed. >> Ditto at the Mitusi Garden, but that should not be a problem for >> many people. > > Sunroute hotel also has wired only, but a totally open network, so I > have plugged in a wireless access point and can use both laptop and > iphone wi-fi simultaneously. And btw I have configured the access > point to be totally open so if you see an access point that has my > name attached, feel free to connect through it... Also upside: Native IPv6 in the room :) > Only downsides to the Suroute hotel - my room is the size of a small > shoebox, and the chair is too close to the floor. My room seems similar to any other I have had in Japan. From agmalis@gmail.com Fri Nov 6 20:23:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E42C3A6835 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:23:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.300, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pHN4uXe6FRME for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:23:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f183.google.com (mail-yw0-f183.google.com [209.85.211.183]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C7B3A6783 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:23:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywh13 with SMTP id 13so1739780ywh.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:23:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=zdv/Fy35hKrvKqt+rP2GZFCv2ZQe9PW6UuIrnaaw8H4=; b=NVCEaC1WvnyMkIVG+fj+dKbrcGVyUjCp8MYI+OZvkJ5ySAZQTZnzjJpbmC1f/SIr9q BsQmBPrqKP+UC8/wyCiGpKSiSWeUUNDqZsYmXCHcFq+yk17lOJYotAd4dC04EnSJhwC0 yz8+HpNkg/DFPqCk7AxwyhbsZfRtN251MY480= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=I952p0CqfbiINbc3tcLq3qoPrRpDTAhoKvm6wtlmYMm5XpxSXwiTQDpGlpPlDTPW/0 cqqOckN7rxUifhvZtszqVbCwXGSg215Tyx67SWYi7RITONcpJSmg8fVCkx6PG4rpHf3s 3hglJfHBUfrUk7vPQYHEH+mfFlBsioos9hlGA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.135.36 with SMTP id m36mr5611170ann.49.1257567817573; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:23:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:21:56 +0900 Message-ID: <8c99930d0911062021m663125a8xb0609684237634e8@mail.gmail.com> To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [76attendees] ATM in NHK building on 3rd floor X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:23:17 -0000 I found the ATM in the post office in the NHK building - it's not obvious. Exit the hotel, turn right, and cross the street, heading for the Starbucks sign. Do not take the escalator up to Starbucks, rather, enter the NHK building at the ground floor and take the main elevator on your right. You'll see a sign in front of the elevator for the Post Office on the 3rd floor. After exiting the elevator, turn left and go down a very narrow corridor. The post office is directly in front of you with a sliding glass door, and the ATM is directly inside the door on your right. My Bank of America ATM card worked just fine. If you don't want a 10,000 Yen bill, then get 9,000 Yen and you'll get nine 1,000 Yen bills. Note that there's a different ATM next to Starbucks on the 2nd floor. That one did not accept my Bank of America card. The post office ATM is open today (Saturday) until 5 PM and is closed tomorrow. Cheers, Andy From joe.abley@icann.org Fri Nov 6 21:38:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A64B3A685D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:38:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9YeTg66pja5q for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:38:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXPFE100-1.exc.icann.org (expfe100-1.exc.icann.org [64.78.22.236]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7739B3A68AC for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:38:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.232]) by EXPFE100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.236]) with mapi; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:38:27 -0800 From: Joe Abley To: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:38:39 -0800 Thread-Topic: Wifi on N700 nozomi trains Thread-Index: AcpfbIfO7iRQmXclQSCgV5oZSb9a3g== Message-ID: <00163E9C-9FE0-414A-A512-1FCAAAC6EFE0@icann.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [76attendees] Wifi on N700 nozomi trains X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:38:06 -0000 Apologies if this has been asked before and I missed it -- is there a =20 way for a foreign visitor to Japan who is not a customer of a Japanese =20 ISP or mobile phone company to get wifi on the N700 nozomi trains =20 between Tokyo and Hiroshima? I see plenty of SSIDs, but they all seem to require WEP (or similar) =20 keys. I have good 3G Internet access on my iPhone, but nothing for the =20 laptop, and there are still several hours to fill on this train :-) --=20 Sent using large thumbs on tiny keyboard. From simon.perreault@viagenie.ca Fri Nov 6 22:06:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53433A6920 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:06:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KgUeGZBBbFoi for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:06:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9EF3A67D7 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:06:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-160-29.meeting.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:160:20a:95ff:febc:7f66]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4D53D20E35; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 01:06:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4AF50E6A.70404@viagenie.ca> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:06:34 +0900 From: Simon Perreault User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Samuel Weiler References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Warnings re: Oriental Hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:06:13 -0000 Samuel Weiler wrote: > The Oriental Hotel has turned off their air conditioning for the > winter. I'm finding my room too warm for comfortable sleeping. I echo that. It is unbearably hot. And I'm thin. Although I'm not naked at the moment. Will try this later and report my findings. :) Simon -- DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca vCard 4.0 --> http://www.vcarddav.org From spencer@wonderhamster.org Fri Nov 6 23:11:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C553A685E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:11:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.338 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.338 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=2.077] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zutH3cl0-c85 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:11:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A35B3A6862 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:11:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from S73602b (host-112-176.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.112.176]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LmJfG-1MY9v33pNy-00ZLcn; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:11:46 -0500 Message-ID: <7620E36F7EAD446C845E680AC71E2A8B@china.huawei.com> From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: , "Akira Kato" References: <20091107.065542.144806024.kato@wide.ad.jp> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:11:08 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1982BrUtaMMeR8L8imAS+ylTgfTihKGg9rVjDp i0kRnnUnDMgy7ehjdCw1zmujKACPqXILUmKm20YbMT1FnoHF0Q G5srl5yfpu54Fg3EYN4AldpbSzbKVqttr+bgOR63XU= Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] IETF SSID? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:11:24 -0000 I'm not seeing SSID ietf (or any of its clones) in the ANA lobby. Am I in the wrong place, or just kind of blind today? Thanks, Spencer >> Also, the in-room net is wired instead of wireless. And it's NAT'ed. > > While we won't be able to provide you wireless access in Oriental > hotel, IETF network will be available at around noon today (Nov 7th). > > -- Akira Kato From rvdp@rvdp.org Fri Nov 6 23:23:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2543A6895 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:23:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.593 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.593 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.006, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KqN6pwvDOA1l for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:23:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from kirk.rvdp.org (kirk.rvdp.org [IPv6:2001:610:108:87::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973D73A6781 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:23:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from kirk.rvdp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kirk.rvdp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA77O0JY054577 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:24:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rvdp@kirk.rvdp.org) Received: (from rvdp@localhost) by kirk.rvdp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nA77Nxft054576 for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:23:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rvdp) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:23:55 +0900 From: Ronald van der Pol To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <20091107072353.GA257@rvdp.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: [76attendees] credit card problem at ANA hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:23:39 -0000 --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline My credit card (Dutch ING bank card with EMV chip) is not accepted by the ANA Crowne Plaza hotel. This happened last week when I had a one night stopover at the hotel. I have phoned my bank and they said that there is nothing wrong with my card. And indeed, I have been using it at a few other places in Japan last week without problems. Today, I asked the ANA hotel if they could check if my card is accepted. Again, I told told it was refused. So I asked them to call their bank and the clerk at the reception had a long telephone conversation. When he hung up I was told my card was successfully charged now (which was not exactly whay I wanted, but better pay now than have problems during checkout). Did anybody else use their foreign credit card already at the hotel? rvdp --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkr1IIkACgkQQKieiDfP4G62EgCdGWU3STG1UeqIXq+zTUj1a5OO JgoAn0QMzGZwiC8jNUifLhjvXENwIM7f =Z1ag -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl-- From sekiya@wide.ad.jp Fri Nov 6 23:25:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AF73A6844 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:25:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.977 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5agbVuY7AnhW for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:25:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from azusa.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (azusa.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [130.69.251.120]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B3D3A6781 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:25:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from 59.214.180.203.d.iijmobile.jp.wide.ad.jp (unknown [133.93.6.29]) by azusa.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8163D8280B2; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:25:23 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:25:23 +0900 Message-ID: From: Yuji Sekiya To: "Spencer Dawkins" In-Reply-To: <7620E36F7EAD446C845E680AC71E2A8B@china.huawei.com> References: <20091107.065542.144806024.kato@wide.ad.jp> <7620E36F7EAD446C845E680AC71E2A8B@china.huawei.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL/10.7 Emacs/22.2.50 (i386-apple-darwin9.4.0) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organization: The University of Tokyo MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] IETF SSID? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:25:00 -0000 At Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:11:08 +0900, Spencer Dawkins wrote: Not yet. We will provide wireless network tomorrow in ANA hotel. Akira mentioned about hotel room network. IETF hotels, ANA, sunroute, mitsui and oriental hotel networks switched to IETF network already. Rihga Royal hotel is not yet switched. -- Yuji Sekiya, WIDE Project > I'm not seeing SSID ietf (or any of its clones) in the ANA lobby. Am I in > the wrong place, or just kind of blind today? > > Thanks, > > Spencer > > >> Also, the in-room net is wired instead of wireless. And it's NAT'ed. > > > > While we won't be able to provide you wireless access in Oriental > > hotel, IETF network will be available at around noon today (Nov 7th). > > > > -- Akira Kato > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From olaf@NLnetLabs.nl Fri Nov 6 23:42:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B323A6778 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:42:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GiDkEfeXKCIK for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:42:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from open.nlnetlabs.nl (open.nlnetlabs.nl [IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1::1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B30C3A659B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:42:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::112:226:bbff:fe0e:7cc7] ([IPv6:2001:dfb:0:112:226:bbff:fe0e:7cc7]) (authenticated bits=0) by open.nlnetlabs.nl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA77gdgc093592 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:42:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olaf@NLnetLabs.nl) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Olaf Kolkman In-Reply-To: <20091107072353.GA257@rvdp.org> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:42:39 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <0FC99E6C-FC10-4687-82B0-77FC9459C523@NLnetLabs.nl> References: <20091107072353.GA257@rvdp.org> To: Ronald van der Pol X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (open.nlnetlabs.nl [IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1::1]); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:42:44 +0100 (CET) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] credit card problem at ANA hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:42:23 -0000 On Nov 7, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Ronald van der Pol wrote: > My credit card (Dutch ING bank card with EMV chip) is not accepted > by the ANA Crowne Plaza hotel. This happened last week when I had > a one night stopover at the hotel. I've heard reports of the ING Bank Cards (Maestro) not being accepted in some countries, haven't tried during this trip yet, my ING Credit Card (MasterCard) was accepted in the ANA hotel. --Olaf ________________________________________________________ Olaf M. Kolkman NLnet Labs Science Park 140, http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/ 1098 XG Amsterdam From shane@isc.org Sat Nov 7 01:31:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159F13A6A47 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 01:31:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LVg3Ylyr7yZe for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 01:31:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb::5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4A33A67D7 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 01:31:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:112:224:8cff:fe33:564a] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:112:224:8cff:fe33:564a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE5FE6059; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:31:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shane@isc.org) From: Shane Kerr To: Ronald van der Pol In-Reply-To: <20091107072353.GA257@rvdp.org> References: <20091107072353.GA257@rvdp.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: ISC Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:31:52 +0100 Message-Id: <1257586312.8871.2585.camel@shane-asus-laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] credit card problem at ANA hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:31:34 -0000 Ronald, On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 16:23 +0900, Ronald van der Pol wrote: > My credit card (Dutch ING bank card with EMV chip) is not accepted > by the ANA Crowne Plaza hotel. This happened last week when I had > a one night stopover at the hotel. > Did anybody else use their foreign credit card already at the hotel? Not at the hotel, but I had trouble paying for a train ticket at the vending machine (Dutch ABN Amro bank card with um... I have no idea what kind of chip). Fortunately I had enough cash. -- Shane From christian.vogt@ericsson.com Sat Nov 7 01:40:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2540328C0EB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 01:40:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.508 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.508 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.091, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 68XcrqJfCkI7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 01:40:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7E728C0E6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 01:40:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from eusrcmw750.eamcs.ericsson.se (eusrcmw750.exu.ericsson.se [138.85.77.50]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nA79ej4N012288; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 03:40:45 -0600 Received: from eusrcmw750.eamcs.ericsson.se ([138.85.77.53]) by eusrcmw750.eamcs.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 7 Nov 2009 03:40:05 -0600 Received: from eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.31]) by eusrcmw750.eamcs.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 7 Nov 2009 03:40:05 -0600 Received: from EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.35]) by eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.31]) with mapi; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 04:40:05 -0500 From: Christian Vogt To: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 04:40:47 -0500 Thread-Topic: [76attendees] ATM in NHK building on 3rd floor Thread-Index: Acpfjkih51t0OkagSs+MOYOZnCd17g== Message-ID: <785419A4-825E-40AA-80EF-AADC8C329A7A@ericsson.com> References: <8c99930d0911062021m663125a8xb0609684237634e8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8c99930d0911062021m663125a8xb0609684237634e8@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2009 09:40:05.0675 (UTC) FILETIME=[498247B0:01CA5F8E] Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM in NHK building on 3rd floor X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:40:23 -0000 Seven-Eleven shops usually have an ATM as well. There is one on the small street behind the NHK building, when coming from the Ana hotel. - Christian On Nov 7, 2009, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > I found the ATM in the post office in the NHK building - it's not > obvious. > > Exit the hotel, turn right, and cross the street, heading for the > Starbucks sign. Do not take the escalator up to Starbucks, rather, =20 > enter > the NHK building at the ground floor and take the main elevator on =20 > your > right. You'll see a sign in front of the elevator for the Post =20 > Office on > the 3rd floor. After exiting the elevator, turn left and go down a =20 > very > narrow corridor. The post office is directly in front of you with a > sliding glass door, and the ATM is directly inside the door on your > right. My Bank of America ATM card worked just fine. If you don't =20 > want a > 10,000 Yen bill, then get 9,000 Yen and you'll get nine 1,000 Yen =20 > bills. > > Note that there's a different ATM next to Starbucks on the 2nd floor. > That one did not accept my Bank of America card. > > The post office ATM is open today (Saturday) until 5 PM and is closed > tomorrow. > > Cheers, Andy From jaapna@xs4all.nl Sat Nov 7 01:43:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547463A6A51 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 01:43:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.504 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.504 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2xpnHfeO3ZRE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 01:43:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.37]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A0B3A68B0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 01:43:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.234.10.252] (p6024-ipbffx02niho.hiroshima.ocn.ne.jp [60.45.238.24]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA79hWUU071600 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:43:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jaapna@xs4all.nl) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Jaap Akkerhuis In-Reply-To: <0FC99E6C-FC10-4687-82B0-77FC9459C523@NLnetLabs.nl> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:43:19 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <693C4E10-5095-4AFD-A9CC-8A4E9923364D@xs4all.nl> References: <20091107072353.GA257@rvdp.org> <0FC99E6C-FC10-4687-82B0-77FC9459C523@NLnetLabs.nl> To: Olaf Kolkman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] credit card problem at ANA hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:43:21 -0000 > I've heard reports of the ING Bank Cards (Maestro) not being > accepted in some countries, haven't tried during this trip yet, my > ING Credit Card (MasterCard) was accepted in the ANA hotel. I didn't had any problem paying with my ING Master card + chip for my train ticket or with the Bank card (+ chip) getting cash (at the Kansai airport). ING says that only some ATM's have problems with the chip and advices it to try an other ATM. Maybe I was just lucky jaap From rdv@sfc.wide.ad.jp Sat Nov 7 02:41:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B103A6A38 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 02:41:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.204 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.204 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EBwhXfTXHxK6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 02:41:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360E73A693F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 02:41:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rdvmac.fletsphone (63.25.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp [125.30.25.63]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ED0124C5A7 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:42:01 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: From: Rodney Van Meter To: 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <1257586312.8871.2585.camel@shane-asus-laptop> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-13-110447599; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:42:01 +0900 References: <20091107072353.GA257@rvdp.org> <1257586312.8871.2585.camel@shane-asus-laptop> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [76attendees] credit card problems X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:41:43 -0000 --Apple-Mail-13-110447599 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FWIW, I just had a report from another attendee than none of his credit cards would work to buy his shinkansen ticket from Tokyo to Hiroshima. I can't stress enough that, although the situation is improving, credit cards are still MUCH less common here than in most of the rest of the world, and even places that nominally take them, you should be prepared for foreign cards to fail. 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] IETF SSID? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:50:17 -0000 Yuji Sekiya wrote: > At Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:11:08 +0900, > Spencer Dawkins wrote: > > Not yet. We will provide wireless network tomorrow > in ANA hotel. > > Akira mentioned about hotel room network. > IETF hotels, ANA, sunroute, mitsui and oriental hotel > networks switched to IETF network already. > Rihga Royal hotel is not yet switched. I just got to the Rihga and went through a click-through to get on their network which seemed to imply I was going to get charged ¥1050 for the privilege. Should I call the front desk now or can I assume that at 0530 on Sunday they'll have already handled it? Any idea when the Rihga will get switched over to IETF network? -derek -- Derek Atkins Principal Software Engineer PGP Corporation 4 Farragut Ave Somerville, MA 02144 +1 617 623 3745 | warlord@pgp.com PGP Corporation -- Rest Secured.(TM) PGP Fingerprint: 0FEE 5EA1 FF22 E0C9 4FFE 631A 9232 FF93 1C80 1DB7 This email and any attachments thereto may contain private, confidential, and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, copying, or distribution of this email (or any attachments thereto) by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copies of this email and any attachments thereto. From sekiya@wide.ad.jp Sat Nov 7 03:01:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92F528C19C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 03:01:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.977 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wVjJxNRbbBhR for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 03:01:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from azusa.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (azusa.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [130.69.251.120]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE02528C17A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 03:01:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from 59.214.180.203.d.iijmobile.jp.wide.ad.jp (unknown [133.93.6.29]) by azusa.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B198280AE; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:02:00 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:02:00 +0900 Message-ID: From: Yuji Sekiya To: Derek Atkins In-Reply-To: <4AF550FE.3010707@pgp.com> References: <20091107.065542.144806024.kato@wide.ad.jp> <7620E36F7EAD446C845E680AC71E2A8B@china.huawei.com> <4AF550FE.3010707@pgp.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL/10.7 Emacs/22.2.50 (i386-apple-darwin9.4.0) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organization: The University of Tokyo MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] IETF SSID? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:01:38 -0000 At Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:50:38 -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: > I just got to the Rihga and went through a click-through to get on their > network which seemed to imply I was going to get charged =A51050 for the > privilege. Should I call the front desk now or can I assume that at > 0530 on Sunday they'll have already handled it? >=20 > Any idea when the Rihga will get switched over to IETF network? We will switch tomorrow noon. Regards, -- Yuji Sekiya From warlord@pgp.com Sat Nov 7 03:05:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C950B3A6A5A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 03:05:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dz8aN0D1FZ99 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 03:05:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from pgpeng.com (mail.pgpeng.com [216.112.105.75]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DFF3A6A46 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 03:05:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from keys.pgpeng.com (account derek [10.214.100.74] verified) by pgpeng.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTPSA id 5779190 for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:06:22 -0800 Received: from pgpdev.ihtfp.org ([60.45.238.24]) by keys.pgpeng.com (PGP Universal service); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:06:22 -0800 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by keys.pgpeng.com on Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:06:22 -0800 Message-ID: <4AF554AC.4010809@pgp.com> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:06:20 -0500 From: Derek Atkins User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090825) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yuji Sekiya References: <20091107.065542.144806024.kato@wide.ad.jp> <7620E36F7EAD446C845E680AC71E2A8B@china.huawei.com> <4AF550FE.3010707@pgp.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] IETF SSID? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:05:58 -0000 Yuji Sekiya wrote: > At Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:50:38 -0500, > Derek Atkins wrote: > >> I just got to the Rihga and went through a click-through to get on their >> network which seemed to imply I was going to get charged ¥1050 for the >> privilege. Should I call the front desk now or can I assume that at >> 0530 on Sunday they'll have already handled it? >> >> Any idea when the Rihga will get switched over to IETF network? > > We will switch tomorrow noon. Thanks, because right now it's looking like they block a bunch of important packets (like, oh, port 88, Kerberos) so I'm having a heck of a time getting much done. :( > Regards, > > -- Yuji Sekiya -derek -- Derek Atkins Principal Software Engineer PGP Corporation 4 Farragut Ave Somerville, MA 02144 +1 617 623 3745 | warlord@pgp.com PGP Corporation -- Rest Secured.(TM) PGP Fingerprint: 0FEE 5EA1 FF22 E0C9 4FFE 631A 9232 FF93 1C80 1DB7 This email and any attachments thereto may contain private, confidential, and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, copying, or distribution of this email (or any attachments thereto) by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copies of this email and any attachments thereto. From cabo@tzi.org Sat Nov 7 04:11:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD8E3A6774 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 04:11:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bkifzvGirY0e for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 04:11:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9:209:3dff:fe00:7136]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CC13A67D2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 04:11:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA7CC2oJ002696; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:12:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (host-112-69.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.112.69]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFD6B077; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:12:00 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:11:56 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <6FAAAB64-7520-4139-B9BD-EC82ABE2F62E@tzi.org> References: <20091107072353.GA257@rvdp.org> <1257586312.8871.2585.camel@shane-asus-laptop> To: Rodney Van Meter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] credit card problems X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:11:49 -0000 > FWIW, I just had a report from another attendee than none of his > credit cards would work to buy his shinkansen ticket from Tokyo to > Hiroshima. The ticket vending machine at Kansai required a PIN for my German VISA, which I don't have. (More complicated, once it has refused a card, it only accepts cash for the same transaction, no other card. OK, I could have reentered all the information about where and when...) Yes, cash is (and was for me) a great backup plan. 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Wilmer. 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(192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm655981pzk.11.2009.11.07.06.46.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:46:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF5883D.8010803@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:46:21 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rodney Van Meter References: <20091107072353.GA257@rvdp.org> <1257586312.8871.2585.camel@shane-asus-laptop> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] credit card problems X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:46:07 -0000 Hi Someone who wants to use the credit card in Japan. 7-11 is the most popular convenience store in Japan as well. Check out Seven Bank's site. http://www.sevenbank.co.jp/intlcard/index2.html GO From: Rodney Van Meter Date: Sat Nov 07 2009 19:42:01 GMT+0900 > FWIW, I just had a report from another attendee than none of his credit > cards would work to buy his shinkansen ticket from Tokyo to Hiroshima. > > I can't stress enough that, although the situation is improving, credit > cards are still MUCH less common here than in most of the rest of the > world, and even places that nominally take them, you should be prepared > for foreign cards to fail. (i.e., have Japanese cash on hand, and/or a > backup plan.) > > --Rod Subject: Re:[76attendees] ATM and GSM From: Go Kawaguchi Date: Wed Nov 04 2009 03:03:59 GMT+0900 > There are so many 7-11's in Japan. > > Try some > > http://www.sevenbank.co.jp/intlcard/index2.html > > > GO > > From: Peny Yang > To: Jared Mauch > Date: Wed Nov 04 2009 00:43:35 GMT+0900 > >> +1. >> >> I always use ATM of Bank-7 in 7-11 convenience store, everytime I go to Japan. >> >> Peny >> >> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: >>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Rodney Van Meter wrote: >>> >>>> At Narita Airport, you can change U.S. dollars for yen at booths outside >>>> customs. The rate there is generally as good as you will find anywhere. It >>>> is better for traveler's checks than cash, and MUCH better than the rates at >>>> U.S. airports, which are often usurious. I believe the rate for euros is >>>> less favorable than dollars. >>> I have found the exchange rate offered by my bank for utilizing my ATM card >>> for Yen to be favorable. (Using Chase in US, 7-Bank/7-11 Japan). >>> >>> Usual caveat of call your bank and advise them of your travel plans so you >>> do not find the transaction declined. I also have not been charged any ATM >>> usage surcharge in the past. >>> >>> - Jared > From ole@cisco.com Sat Nov 7 06:54:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980A23A68DF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 06:54:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.585 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.585 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kytRbQfoEhiI for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 06:53:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477CB3A68D2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 06:53:59 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAOAY9UqrRN+J/2dsb2JhbADCXoEcCAGHfQcBAwWOLIJNBwEEgWUE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,700,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="267752369" Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.223.137]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Nov 2009 14:54:23 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA7EsNCE017459 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 14:54:23 GMT Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 06:53:44 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [76attendees] Question for DoCoMo users X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:54:00 -0000 I have a Japanese SIM card from DoCoMo and using it in a "generic" 3G phone (not from DoCoMo). I was told to set up a data account as follows: APN mopera.net USER PASS (blank for user and password) This does not work and also my old MOVA e-nail doesn't work since I don't know how to set up the account (but since the phone cannot connect to the Internet, that's secondary). Any help would be appreciated, I may have to buy a DoCoMo phone, but that seems like overkill... Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From shtsuchi@cisco.com Sat Nov 7 07:25:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0F33A67FD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:25:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.073 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.073 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.526, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jwwSzVo50aaw for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:25:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com (sj-iport-4.cisco.com [171.68.10.86]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCA73A67D6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:25:12 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-4.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAJIg9UpAaHte/2dsb2JhbADCXYkiBwEDBY4hgk0HAQSBZQSCYA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,700,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="48434862" Received: from hkg-core-1.cisco.com ([64.104.123.94]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Nov 2009 15:25:35 +0000 Received: from xbh-hkg-412.apac.cisco.com (xbh-hkg-412.cisco.com [64.104.123.69]) by hkg-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA7FPZEp014989 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:25:35 GMT Received: from xfe-hkg-412.apac.cisco.com ([64.104.123.71]) by xbh-hkg-412.apac.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:25:35 +0800 Received: from [10.71.33.220] ([10.71.33.220]) by xfe-hkg-412.apac.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:25:34 +0800 Message-ID: <4AF5916D.6060509@cisco.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:25:33 +0900 From: Shishio Tsuchiya User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ole@cisco.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2009 15:25:34.0846 (UTC) FILETIME=[8D0EC1E0:01CA5FBE] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question for DoCoMo users X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:25:13 -0000 Ole mopera.net needs registration. Did you register to DoCoMo? http://www.mopera.net/apply/index.html mopera.ne.jp is free APN. But it only supports PDP type=PPP. If your equipement supports PDP type=PPP,so you can connect to mopera.ne.jp. Also this is connection manual for mopera U. http://www.mopera.net/manual/index.html I could not find English page.. Please use google translator.. Regards, -Shishio -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [76attendees] Question for DoCoMo users From: Ole Jacobsen To: 76attendees@ietf.org Date: Sat Nov 07 2009 23:53:44 GMT+0900 (Tokyo Standard Time) > I have a Japanese SIM card from DoCoMo and using it in a "generic" 3G > phone (not from DoCoMo). > > I was told to set up a data account as follows: > > APN mopera.net > USER > PASS > (blank for user and password) > > This does not work and also my old MOVA e-nail doesn't work since I > don't know how to set up the account (but since the phone cannot > connect to the Internet, that's secondary). > > Any help would be appreciated, I may have to buy a DoCoMo phone, > but that seems like overkill... > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From bertietf@bwijnen.net Sat Nov 7 07:44:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7482E3A68C1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:44:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.144 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.144 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.455, BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_I_LETTER=-2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GLKTvic+Qmt4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:44:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from postgirl.ripe.net (postgirl.ripe.net [193.0.19.66]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B3D3A68AE for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from herring.ripe.net ([193.0.1.203]) by postgirl.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N6nSe-0001bD-BK; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:44:25 +0100 Received: from host-112-190.meeting.ietf.org (cat.ripe.net [193.0.1.249]) by herring.ripe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244BC2F583; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:44:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AF595D0.7060704@bwijnen.net> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:44:16 +0100 From: "Bert (IETF) Wijnen" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wilmer van der Gaast References: <20091107072353.GA257@rvdp.org> <1257586312.8871.2585.camel@shane-asus-laptop> <7c31c8cc0911070547m5c068ef8od0cf83949af112c2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7c31c8cc0911070547m5c068ef8od0cf83949af112c2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RIPE-Spam-Level: ---- X-RIPE-Signature: 86ab03e524994f79ca2c75a176445dd41e9b3b40c9c7a65a317e4478b6c44dd0 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] credit card problems X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:44:05 -0000 The machine that had with big letters: ENGLISH did not accept my VISA nor MASTERCARD The other machines (whcih turned out to also do english), did not accept my visa card, but it did accept my mastercard (both have a pincode). Bert Wilmer van der Gaast wrote: > .2009/11/7 Rodney Van Meter : > >> FWIW, I just had a report from another attendee than none of his credit >> cards would work to buy his shinkansen ticket from Tokyo to Hiroshima. >> >> > I had no problems with my card FWIW (Dutch Mastercard), but I bought > my ticket at the counter, don't know how much that helps? > > > Wilmer. > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > From gg55go@gmail.com Sat Nov 7 07:52:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A5E3A687B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:52:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.298 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.298 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.301, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3cGcT6ML9coL for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:52:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276683A676A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:52:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by pwj20 with SMTP id 20so736574pwj.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:52:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+hBn7NpiXiJC3aCayh2bjIihMZZUM9lJtjTrRIAzrcQ=; b=rrihMLJLJaWMd5egBXi04asBhPPXkGVSP9FVPNWvxumMtk3gV5Ozhhx0p7tX97y+KD MHXNDLNvR+FSdoVnmlgwlogGXTj9dzK0MXBd/uvC7AypBChncJdVLmQDJWmBSawC2C/p kCVhvOD0sLz/Txi+/jyhwmPBi4SNUYdj9cJTY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=op8+FPi3NuO8+tTyxhgLwIdvCnUUc1Z8s0FL5o9rjvGHK9fIYKqAtLkjPK+DCMLjWQ H/P0VhMFTn1BkXdGHo3aqOmPCKh6MD0iezYnUh761Wb8tK70WYVQz6a7VsAickT9S5I1 1hKD26C0QRRX6v2GqZ8x87ALghq/Xwt4IHuro= Received: by 10.114.4.25 with SMTP id 25mr9136366wad.164.1257609143823; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:52:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.25? (192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm687741pzk.3.2009.11.07.07.52.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:52:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF597B4.8020002@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:52:20 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Atkins References: <20091107.065542.144806024.kato@wide.ad.jp> <7620E36F7EAD446C845E680AC71E2A8B@china.huawei.com> <4AF550FE.3010707@pgp.com> <4AF554AC.4010809@pgp.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF554AC.4010809@pgp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] IETF SSID? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:52:06 -0000 Hi Someone who needs to hook up the Net. Check the Host's "Network info" http://www.ietf76.jp/network/ GO From: Derek Atkins Date: Sat Nov 07 2009 20:06:20 GMT+0900 > Yuji Sekiya wrote: >> At Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:50:38 -0500, >> Derek Atkins wrote: >> >>> I just got to the Rihga and went through a click-through to get on their >>> network which seemed to imply I was going to get charged ¥1050 for the >>> privilege. Should I call the front desk now or can I assume that at >>> 0530 on Sunday they'll have already handled it? >>> >>> Any idea when the Rihga will get switched over to IETF network? >> We will switch tomorrow noon. > > Thanks, because right now it's looking like they block a bunch of > important packets (like, oh, port 88, Kerberos) so I'm having a heck of > a time getting much done. :( > >> Regards, >> >> -- Yuji Sekiya > > -derek > From simon.perreault@viagenie.ca Sat Nov 7 14:06:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764693A6828 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 14:06:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vdm2BWJaH+lV for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 14:06:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705BC3A67B6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 14:06:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-160-29.meeting.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:160:20a:95ff:febc:7f66]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E93DF20806 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:06:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4AF5EF6B.5030306@viagenie.ca> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:06:35 +0900 From: Simon Perreault User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <4AF50E6A.70404@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: <4AF50E6A.70404@viagenie.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Warnings re: Oriental Hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:06:16 -0000 Simon Perreault wrote: > I echo that. It is unbearably hot. And I'm thin. Although I'm not naked > at the moment. Will try this later and report my findings. :) The AC has been working correctly through the night. Thanks to anyone who's responsible for this! Simon -- DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca vCard 4.0 --> http://www.vcarddav.org From eburger@standardstrack.com Sat Nov 7 15:26:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27CF73A6A5C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:26:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_63=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w8vnTErZ+JBw for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:26:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from gs19.inmotionhosting.com (gs19b.inmotionhosting.com [66.117.3.189]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A053A69EC for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:26:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-113-35.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.113.35]) by gs19.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N6ug4-0003Z5-Pt; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:26:41 -0800 Message-Id: <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> From: Eric Burger To: Go Kawaguchi In-Reply-To: <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:26:41 +0900 References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs19.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:00-20:30 X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:26:23 -0000 I am tempted to suggest we re-doodle, as the earlier time may impact ability to attend. For me, Thursday I can definitely attend; it is at the edge of possible for tonight; and I cannot do Wednesday. On Nov 7, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Go Kawaguchi wrote: > Hi > Futsal(and soccer) freaks > > Finally! > We've booked futsal courts which are the same as Mr. JINMEI's place. > (But changed the time) > > Confirm the followings info, and participate, > please! > > > -- summary -- > Booked name: IETF > Date: > Sun. 8th > Wed. 11th > Thu. 12th > Time: > 19:00-20:30 (same all days) > Court Name: > I-Fut Ujina > Address: > 4-8 Ujina-Higashi 3-chome Minami-Ku Hiroshima city > Fee: > if player 20 person, around 1000 yen, or > if 15 person, around 1250 yen > > Some more info: > http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ > > > GO Kawaguchi > > > Subject: Re:[76attendees] Soccer, part III > From: JINMEI Tatuya > Date: Fri Nov 06 2009 18:03:16 GMT+0900 > >> ... I've already booked one court for Thursday >> evening). If you're willing to organize the additional session, >> whether it's on Thursday or not, please feel free to do so. > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From kato@wide.ad.jp Sat Nov 7 16:06:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FD73A67A7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:06:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BYPoraH18ck8 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:06:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB423A67B0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:06:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:32:21f:3bff:fec6:73bd]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C02E88039F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:07:10 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41703E7D1D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:07:10 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:07:10 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091108.090710.163049570.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Akira Kato X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Network Info X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:06:50 -0000 The network reconfiguration at Rihga Royal Hotel will be done around noon today (Nov. 8th). So all of the hotels are now using IETF environment. We apologize that the wireless connection in ANA hotel lobby area have not been installed properly due to the power installation issue. We are working to fix this as soon as possible. -- Akira Kato From ogud@ogud.com Sat Nov 7 17:50:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E6F3A6878 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:50:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.484 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.484 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.115, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HPmsiZGis66C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:50:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7CA43A67BD for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:50:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from Puki.ogud.com (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA81oaDc069962; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:50:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) Message-Id: <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:49:51 -0500 To: Eric Burger , Go Kawaguchi From: Olafur Gudmundsson In-Reply-To: <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:00-20:30 X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:50:18 -0000 May I suggest people just go in and edit their entries in the poll removing the days that they WILL not play. Look for the [Edit entry] button right below the summary of the poll but before the comments. I just updated my self to only play Sun and Thurs. Olafur At 18:26 07/11/2009, Eric Burger wrote: >I am tempted to suggest we re-doodle, as the earlier time may impact >ability to attend. For me, Thursday I can definitely attend; it is at >the edge of possible for tonight; and I cannot do Wednesday. > >On Nov 7, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Go Kawaguchi wrote: > >>Hi >>Futsal(and soccer) freaks >> >>Finally! >>We've booked futsal courts which are the same as Mr. JINMEI's place. >>(But changed the time) >> >>Confirm the followings info, and participate, >>please! >> >> >>-- summary -- >>Booked name: IETF >>Date: >>Sun. 8th >>Wed. 11th >>Thu. 12th >>Time: >>19:00-20:30 (same all days) >>Court Name: >>I-Fut Ujina >>Address: >>4-8 Ujina-Higashi 3-chome Minami-Ku Hiroshima city >>Fee: >>if player 20 person, around 1000 yen, or >>if 15 person, around 1250 yen >> >>Some more info: >>http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ >> >> >>GO Kawaguchi >> >> >>Subject: Re:[76attendees] Soccer, part III >>From: JINMEI Tatuya >>Date: Fri Nov 06 2009 18:03:16 GMT+0900 >> >>>... I've already booked one court for Thursday >>>evening). If you're willing to organize the additional session, >>>whether it's on Thursday or not, please feel free to do so. >> >>_______________________________________________ >>76attendees mailing list >>76attendees@ietf.org >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > >_______________________________________________ >76attendees mailing list >76attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From pawal@blipp.com Sat Nov 7 17:56:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0443A67E2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:56:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f9-VqJoMJ8LF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:56:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from vic20.blipp.com (cl-682.sto-01.se.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:16d8:ff00:2a9::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B503A67BD for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:56:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::16:21f:5bff:fec4:a415] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:21f:5bff:fec4:a415]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by vic20.blipp.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2A10A3816C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:56:31 +0100 (CET) From: Patrik Wallstrom Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:56:26 +0100 Message-Id: <669FA0CB-01DE-4466-B780-1C27E3965B29@blipp.com> To: 76attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: [76attendees] ATM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:56:10 -0000 Where can I find the closest working ATM for foreign credit cards that works near the ANA Crowne Plaza? From kato@wide.ad.jp Sat Nov 7 18:03:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96A43A6767 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:03:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8ynZ4i3qjMlT for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:03:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A283A67E2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:03:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:32:21f:3bff:fec6:73bd]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9FD1D804F7 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:04:05 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35B7E7D1D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:04:04 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:04:04 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091108.110404.192863138.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Akira Kato In-Reply-To: <669FA0CB-01DE-4466-B780-1C27E3965B29@blipp.com> References: <669FA0CB-01DE-4466-B780-1C27E3965B29@blipp.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:03:43 -0000 > Where can I find the closest working ATM for foreign credit cards that > works near the ANA Crowne Plaza? Try one of Seven-Eleven convenience stores:(map is in Japanese, sorry) one behind NHK building, across Rijo-Dori (tram runs on it): (open 24x7) http://gis.e-map.ne.jp/standard/13125010/emapview.htm?ENC=KJNJUhnlEa%2BJ6XNw21%2FYuFBXUBtpt7UUxiUcxYaLqFFjK83qpEow7NJaT%2BWCqZ9juRNElq0iyP8%2B%2FBI5ZHAZ40VGnjx3k28toGMSCUhcHQGNMmF2I3Nvn41%2BRne2N4xgx4gTw66mQr0A2n9Wj9d7%2FMKwvfuwsb0ZAajMqgrDV5I0IoAYyV%2FdR0feftq0XTxe%2BQ1oUEbwlBLDp6O1u%2FLSpS5oYLeNBy3Oo0h90pBjnmEIt%2BzrNTSscC5lMJTuZDMu another one near to the rear entrance of Mitsui Garden hotel: (this might be closest in the travel time as there is no big traffic signal you need to wait for next green sign) (opens 24x7) http://gis.e-map.ne.jp/standard/13125010/emapview.htm?ENC=1V%2FS0PCq2ZzvN0SC5QOfae%2BVo85g01oFPVOOlLiy888OhW2K00ZchXZVDwDVm3e4PPoBb6usqRD24OXdqEOarfIDcDgBxgnrkUT8YGqugyMuAbrkdxeZ2EkX2CsKxpXgqTPe7N3pxlHXY7sPxn6dcYZ9aUPd5lQv%2BBr%2B34910NfJwKF3d5%2FZQW7ONqEEAEH7gpBqWu5wl2ZTRhwXFok0Z1BN3q87qnwO31uSQgkzLy7lQtzWODDZYiz0C39gQe3o Most of the post offices nearby the hotel close on Sunday. -- Akira Kato From gg55go@gmail.com Sat Nov 7 18:26:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134C63A6864 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:26:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.02 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_63=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ye07oBy7scWu for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:26:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gx0-f212.google.com (mail-gx0-f212.google.com [209.85.217.212]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCD53A6767 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:26:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so2186933gxk.8 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:27:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qhWCx0P1FVN6xICgYkTWJT4Z1MX0OBW4jALqWjME1O0=; b=alf7ja7z01QF1MLRs6NaiKVweLkSVjy/6HX45Jt+9cU0Xf+xeu42RgiPm/zN7YCzR8 3JtaqToS9nNKR6jeW9VeNeU/MvwXaLV8HlYU9/HlGvW9OIL1YHVwHrFgC0NSX5Zmp0e0 /lklj7DVcMlb5tm4I6wWHkmKJc8Ez+IJHb7c8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NibEjSm3a9RUu8qE6q9fKrCTD8b3GJfDJ3QTmDZN3G+sHxxTtkl8W4a0JxqhwgjzyZ 3D2W+pDE2J3mJbz4W9pdZZVEkBArCW4EgB+wkOZ9kpw3cF3MHqQHHu+dTf30+DUNlieh JTPlsymS64v4ZauE6CHLPrPs0LyX9bPW5iWlQ= Received: by 10.151.5.1 with SMTP id h1mr10698879ybi.27.1257647231727; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:27:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.20? (192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm554453ywc.51.2009.11.07.18.27.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:27:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:27:11 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olafur Gudmundsson References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> In-Reply-To: <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:00-20:30 X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:26:52 -0000 Hi Olafur, Eric and Futsal(and soccer) freaks From: Olafur Gudmundsson Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 10:49:51 GMT+0900 > > May I suggest people just go in and edit their entries in the poll > removing the > days that they WILL not play. Look for the [Edit entry] button right > below the > summary of the poll but before the comments. > > I just updated my self to only play Sun and Thurs. > > Olafur Yes. Plese recheck the doodle precisely as soon as possible, after checking my home-made site. http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ To get enough player at the court, I'm gonna wear a shirt written by "IETF FUTSAL on Sun. Wed. Thu. 7-830pm" to appeal to register the doodle all the session at ANA hotel until I think it's done. and pass a paper to all the freaks printed the site's HTML document. GO Kawaguchi > At 18:26 07/11/2009, Eric Burger wrote: >> I am tempted to suggest we re-doodle, as the earlier time may impact >> ability to attend. For me, Thursday I can definitely attend; it is at >> the edge of possible for tonight; and I cannot do Wednesday. >> >> On Nov 7, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Go Kawaguchi wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> Futsal(and soccer) freaks >>> >>> Finally! >>> We've booked futsal courts which are the same as Mr. JINMEI's place. >>> (But changed the time) >>> >>> Confirm the followings info, and participate, >>> please! >>> >>> >>> -- summary -- >>> Booked name: IETF >>> Date: >>> Sun. 8th >>> Wed. 11th >>> Thu. 12th >>> Time: >>> 19:00-20:30 (same all days) >>> Court Name: >>> I-Fut Ujina >>> Address: >>> 4-8 Ujina-Higashi 3-chome Minami-Ku Hiroshima city >>> Fee: >>> if player 20 person, around 1000 yen, or >>> if 15 person, around 1250 yen >>> >>> Some more info: >>> http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ >>> >>> >>> GO Kawaguchi >>> >>> >>> Subject: Re:[76attendees] Soccer, part III >>> From: JINMEI Tatuya >>> Date: Fri Nov 06 2009 18:03:16 GMT+0900 >>> >>>> ... I've already booked one court for Thursday >>>> evening). If you're willing to organize the additional session, >>>> whether it's on Thursday or not, please feel free to do so. From jan@johannesson.com Sat Nov 7 18:35:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374503A689A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:35:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4080ANVgZ4jM for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:35:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from vic20.blipp.com (cl-682.sto-01.se.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:16d8:ff00:2a9::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C45D3A67CF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:35:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-24-80.meeting.ietf.org (host-24-80.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.80]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by vic20.blipp.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 16DF538108; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 03:35:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AF62E84.4050403@johannesson.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:35:48 +0900 From: Jan Johannesson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrik Wallstrom References: <669FA0CB-01DE-4466-B780-1C27E3965B29@blipp.com> In-Reply-To: <669FA0CB-01DE-4466-B780-1C27E3965B29@blipp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:35:32 -0000 Patrik Wallstrom skrev: > Where can I find the closest working ATM for foreign credit cards that > works near the ANA Crowne Plaza? > Since I know that you have an iPhone, right? Try the ATM finder in Appstore - it's free! /Jan From bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr Sat Nov 7 19:02:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5013A6905 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:02:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C-vLwH63yd8P for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:02:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bortzmeyer.org (bortzmeyer-1-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f12:420::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC453A68CB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:02:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.bortzmeyer.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 270F37C1C2; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:02:25 +0100 (CET) Received: by horcrux (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 67D0B157767; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:02:06 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:02:06 +0900 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <20091108030206.GA8510@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Transport: UUCP rules X-Operating-System: Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: [76attendees] Highly recommended: bicycle rental X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:02:03 -0000 I just tried the E-cycle service and I highly recommend it: the city is really made for the bicycle (large roads, little traffic on Sunday, and you are entitled to the sidewalks in some places). It is a very nice way to go to the Castle, for instance. But my favorite is the park along the Kyobashi river, at the east of the city. Just remember that the japanese drive on the left... From rvdp@rvdp.org Sat Nov 7 19:35:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A10C3A690C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:35:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.928 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.928 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.671, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z2T8-L65P5Xb for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from kirk.rvdp.org (kirk.rvdp.org [IPv6:2001:610:108:87::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FDDC3A6833 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from kirk.rvdp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kirk.rvdp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA83a8tQ085717; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:36:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rvdp@kirk.rvdp.org) Received: (from rvdp@localhost) by kirk.rvdp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nA83a7DY085716; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:36:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rvdp) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:36:02 +0900 From: Ronald van der Pol To: Stephane Bortzmeyer Message-ID: <20091108033601.GB381@rvdp.org> References: <20091108030206.GA8510@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="K8nIJk4ghYZn606h" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091108030206.GA8510@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Highly recommended: bicycle rental X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:35:46 -0000 --K8nIJk4ghYZn606h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 04:02:06 +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > Just remember that the japanese drive on the left... Ah, then I must have seen a lot of foreign cyclists ;-) But it gives me a nice at home feeling. rvdp --K8nIJk4ghYZn606h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkr2PKEACgkQQKieiDfP4G5w8QCaA9S/q44LUGLHFKTDLCAafPjU pXAAnRi1ucmuTE3w3BiX01sbxe0ynNeN =AdwX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --K8nIJk4ghYZn606h-- From brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com Sat Nov 7 19:44:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993FD3A68FA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:44:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.196 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.196 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.403, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FGiSMCrSpOVA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:44:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-px0-f186.google.com (mail-px0-f186.google.com [209.85.216.186]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EADFF3A6837 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:44:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by pxi16 with SMTP id 16so299765pxi.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:44:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bNALxilF15wJvUzouOHrQ6HPoczS12xnZ/KjrZ3bLR8=; b=W7Lka3bk0Ld1onH7djM4DPV/5MiYoN8gt+LALVdB1HGWl04QNf3Oyys0w2jFXh1E4v xNfgdqTDXkS1Pd2FNt9Tbs1Hefys6JJD2PD7IyFFjTakyey4+96790yA8OkncQhIVGSZ SMfHlTZ3SeL4h+8ITpI/aAbDdg7KA+8rAnwXA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Utqd9+inTgtfJHJSqfcqdIO//M/9RZ3MF7yTXxEkdkK8KgHiJSNAPEkBLBPqSnjEMf +C8Szlecx33Pfnl88GScCx24KzLjfXSWrUkH06vRXco6qH4ozi+yz01KUleahl6XdrN8 /NFgrQRQWdVCmuxRullY1MEmR2k/2nvUyKlyk= Received: by 10.115.135.23 with SMTP id m23mr10382454wan.136.1257651891286; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:44:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?133.93.16.203? (host-16-203.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm1141241pxi.11.2009.11.07.19.44.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:44:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF63EAF.9050308@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:44:47 +1300 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Questions about buying train tickets in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:44:29 -0000 At the end of this week a lot of us will need to buy train tickets to go back to Narita or Kansai. 1. Is Saturday very busy on the trains? Do we need to buy tickets in advance? 2. If yes, is there anywhere we can buy them except at the railway station? Thanks in advance for any information. Brian From gg55go@gmail.com Sat Nov 7 19:47:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA963A6820 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:47:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.018 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.018 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.019, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_63=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FDBChmfuPo8U for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:47:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f183.google.com (mail-yw0-f183.google.com [209.85.211.183]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31523A67CF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:47:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywh13 with SMTP id 13so2301282ywh.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:47:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ze7SSi0vik3BW5oefxWaPWGVIs6E3Y8JGYflqvF8H3M=; b=f9O03YM7jjgWSanwVQxkFzySrX/layc90OlSubiANOgz8Tj+GhLi+fLxuLRrIcaG/4 QGTtGbgfiBNYrFzvNYh5MW0wzqR8rdejKkozXsKNEm6iHAIOM0qjHtjOfA/JHCOY5fIg cx3shzkj8IjWy6/jt/O3IfwxqDaCRNJgc9rN0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZxSNRv8jVY8LGgCD6efPgUQSbX99XEA8hlKA9+noJetMA/36jG0gmhzv6mQXPVKb95 u4MuB6RA8Lm5YYwBXu1OQWNr/dcBNm9+KnaS6GXqY+EwkSmrq7axQj1cNBPlmZF0a5Em Ry6Zeczj9a74lBaaMwmkLpDfva4Ot14DUCMVs= Received: by 10.151.29.1 with SMTP id g1mr10735585ybj.164.1257652066657; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:47:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.25? (192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm577048ywd.37.2009.11.07.19.47.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:47:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF63F5B.6040307@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:47:39 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olafur Gudmundsson References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <200911080230.nA82U9OG070282@stora.ogud.com> In-Reply-To: <200911080230.nA82U9OG070282@stora.ogud.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:00-20:30 X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:47:26 -0000 Hi Olafur I appreciate your feed back. I've just updated "About texi fare" on the site. http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ Or by bicycle? http://www.ietf76.jp/special_events/#3 Check it out such as Google map by yourself :-) GO From: Olafur Gudmundsson Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 11:29:33 GMT+0900 > Sounds great, > > The only info that is missing is how much you think a taxi is to and > from the futsal place. > > thank you for helping out with local arrangements. > > Olafur > > > At 21:27 07/11/2009, Go Kawaguchi wrote: >> Hi >> Olafur, Eric >> and Futsal(and soccer) freaks >> >> >> From: Olafur Gudmundsson >> Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 10:49:51 GMT+0900 >> >>> May I suggest people just go in and edit their entries in the poll >>> removing the >>> days that they WILL not play. Look for the [Edit entry] button right >>> below the >>> summary of the poll but before the comments. >>> I just updated my self to only play Sun and Thurs. >>> Olafur >> >> Yes. Plese recheck the doodle precisely as soon as possible, after >> checking my home-made site. >> http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ >> >> To get enough player at the court, I'm gonna wear a shirt written by >> "IETF FUTSAL on Sun. Wed. Thu. 7-830pm" >> to appeal to register the doodle all the session at ANA hotel until I >> think it's done. >> and pass a paper to all the freaks printed the site's HTML document. >> >> GO Kawaguchi From ole@cisco.com Sat Nov 7 19:58:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D803A6837 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:58:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.586 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.586 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.013, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XeY2ETgEnkFc for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:58:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DDC3A68CB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:58:23 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAKPQ9UqrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbADCdIEcCAGIBAmNWoJUgWoE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,702,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="267833352" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2009 03:58:48 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA83wm8K025439; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 03:58:48 GMT Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:58:09 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Brian E Carpenter In-Reply-To: <4AF63EAF.9050308@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4AF63EAF.9050308@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Questions about buying train tickets in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:58:24 -0000 Brian, Since the Nozomi runs every 20 mins and there are slower (somewhat) trains in between, you should not have any problems just showing up and saying "tsugi nozomi" which means next Nozomi -- that's probably not good Japanese, but it will be understood. My personal preference is to get the ticket a couple of days in advance, using Hyperdia to plan my route. This means you can go straight to the platform and not have to schlep luggage into the ticket office. As far as I know, the station (or any JR station with a ticket office) is the only place to get tickets. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > At the end of this week a lot of us will need to buy > train tickets to go back to Narita or Kansai. > > 1. Is Saturday very busy on the trains? Do we need > to buy tickets in advance? > > 2. If yes, is there anywhere we can buy them > except at the railway station? > > Thanks in advance for any information. > > Brian > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From kawamucho@mesh.ad.jp Sat Nov 7 19:59:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111993A682B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:59:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.06 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.06 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pxnkOl0p26+R for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:59:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp (TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp [202.32.8.206]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208463A681F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:59:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgate3.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.192]) by tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id nA840BOh022624; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:00:11 +0900 (JST) Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate3.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) id nA840Bp19153; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:00:11 +0900 (JST) Received: from bgas200085.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp (bgas200085.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp [10.82.141.45]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id nA840B5g017095; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:00:11 +0900 (JST) Received: from bsac29088.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bgas200085.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp (BINGO/BINGO/06101717) with ESMTP id nA840Bq2026091; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:00:11 +0900 Received: from mail.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp (bgsx5626.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp [10.18.151.10]) by bsac29088.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp (BINGO/BINGO/06101717) with ESMTP id nA840BsJ018456; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:00:11 +0900 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (edonet065.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp [10.19.137.65]) (authenticated bits=0) (envelope-from kawamucho@mesh.ad.jp) by mail.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp (BINGO/BINGO/06101717) with ESMTP id nA840AbX022933 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:00:11 +0900 Message-ID: <4AF64249.7050002@mesh.ad.jp> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:00:09 +0900 From: Seiichi Kawamura User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian E Carpenter References: <4AF63EAF.9050308@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF63EAF.9050308@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Questions about buying train tickets in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:59:50 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Brian A quick look at JR's site tells me seats are still pretty open for Shinkansen from Hiroshima to Tokyo station on Friady and Saturday. Same headed for Osaka. I would recommend buying tickets in advance though, if you have a plane to catch. - From my personal experience, Friday afternoons tend to get sold out pretty quickly. I think Saturday mornings come close to it too. I live in the eastern part of japan so if anybody that lives on the west side has better info, I would appreciate it too :-) Regards, Seiichi Brian E Carpenter wrote: > At the end of this week a lot of us will need to buy > train tickets to go back to Narita or Kansai. > > 1. Is Saturday very busy on the trains? Do we need > to buy tickets in advance? > > 2. If yes, is there anywhere we can buy them > except at the railway station? > > Thanks in advance for any information. > > Brian > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkr2QkkACgkQcrhTYfxyMkI0NgCfaiB13uMgHms3KW9CTgMmgLMJ xoQAniWW5beM8CF1UHBPi40g4w3jK79A =S0jn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From vgill@vijaygill.com Sat Nov 7 20:02:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F01A3A68CB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:02:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.717 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.717 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.260, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b+e7SisbYSzp for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:02:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pz0-f204.google.com (mail-pz0-f204.google.com [209.85.222.204]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1573A682B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:02:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by pzk42 with SMTP id 42so1722894pzk.31 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:02:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.3.13 with SMTP id 13mr645642wfc.302.1257652943582; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:02:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF64249.7050002@mesh.ad.jp> References: <4AF63EAF.9050308@gmail.com> <4AF64249.7050002@mesh.ad.jp> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:02:23 -0800 Message-ID: <21ef2c1c0911072002i4aeaaee0wb20ad8dbca68c183@mail.gmail.com> From: vijay gill To: Seiichi Kawamura Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Questions about buying train tickets in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:02:05 -0000 Any way to buy train tickets near the hotel? I am heading back on friday to SFO from KIX and its a long journey by train. /vijay On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Seiichi Kawamura wro= te: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Brian > > A quick look at JR's site tells me seats are > still pretty open for Shinkansen from Hiroshima to Tokyo station > on Friady and Saturday. Same headed for Osaka. > I would recommend buying tickets in advance though, if you > have a plane to catch. > > - From my personal experience, Friday afternoons > tend to get sold out pretty quickly. I think Saturday > mornings come close to it too. > > I live in the eastern part of japan so if > anybody that lives on the west side has better > info, I would appreciate it too :-) > > Regards, > Seiichi > > Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> At the end of this week a lot of us will need to buy >> train tickets to go back to Narita or Kansai. >> >> 1. Is Saturday very busy on the trains? Do we need >> to buy tickets in advance? >> >> 2. If yes, is there anywhere we can buy them >> except at the railway station? >> >> Thanks in advance for any information. >> >> =A0 =A0Brian >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkr2QkkACgkQcrhTYfxyMkI0NgCfaiB13uMgHms3KW9CTgMmgLMJ > xoQAniWW5beM8CF1UHBPi40g4w3jK79A > =3DS0jn > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From fluffy@cisco.com Sat Nov 7 20:05:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954183A679F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:05:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.046 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.046 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.553, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zSeumylS9r4S for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:05:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com (sj-iport-5.cisco.com [171.68.10.87]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA74B3A6837 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:05:43 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-5.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAA3S9UpAaHte/2dsb2JhbADCdJcKhD4EgmA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,702,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="102931942" Received: from hkg-core-1.cisco.com ([64.104.123.94]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2009 04:06:08 +0000 Received: from tky-vpn-client-231-209.cisco.com (tky-vpn-client-231-209.cisco.com [10.70.231.209]) by hkg-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA84671d025076 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:06:07 GMT From: Cullen Jennings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:06:06 +0900 Message-Id: <55AB77CB-37A8-4BF0-9BA3-A68CEFAF2F5E@cisco.com> To: 76attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: [76attendees] Great local coffee? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:05:44 -0000 Anyone found a good place? I like the name of "Juniper Coffee" http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&q=map%20of%20hiroshima%2C%20coffee&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl From gregory.ietf@gmail.com Sat Nov 7 20:09:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F4C3A679F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:09:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.159 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.159 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.160, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_63=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OQQZDVkLj3Iw for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:09:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gx0-f212.google.com (mail-gx0-f212.google.com [209.85.217.212]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428DC3A6837 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:09:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so2217942gxk.8 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:09:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:x-mailer:date:to :from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type; bh=Z9bHBAbq9imw1InqiHu3PpCYwbzv0QiZgdMlPdXEk/A=; b=gUU/i9SIrg60q7b8asQnrIUvZIFdjCN1XNH/yUjKDEXKxF6WpLrZ8dc1ydkx+GoMtp 6J4KqhS2YRBKy2LiUlVfDukDHNhZ3bHuQnsVFsMFlcqae2aLPibz8FfS0gza5XF4YvPx pIXuOKkJSv7u5kOdCvf/6huXsbth2uw6uzfVk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:x-mailer:date:to:from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type; b=GjM2DFsunG+/D8BWiHx+xUl8/hpwuqrKaVRvU2aStH/8f8fZjEUWZCj6jxl/bbO7kt PqMOcpbgi31MqXYOi4eZ2LRW6Qd+XTON9LGojzhbsFHA6ah+KS4HZpDbDWAaYelLcMdB u1MFUmGZc7SweD4B+S7ejuwmgQsrreL9hJJ3w= Received: by 10.150.251.5 with SMTP id y5mr10581553ybh.297.1257653378384; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:09:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from Gregory-T60.gmail.com (host-17-96.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.17.96]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm764097gxk.7.2009.11.07.20.09.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:09:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:09:32 -0800 To: Go Kawaguchi ,Olafur Gudmundsson From: "Gregory M. Lebovitz" In-Reply-To: <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:00-20:30 X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:09:20 -0000 Futbal-istos, I will be able to join on Wed and Thur, and I will be late on Thur. I would have joined for Sunday, but we have an IAB function which prevents me from making it. is there anyway we can make the time later: like 20:00-21:30, or at least 19:30-21:00? 19:00 is just too early, given that the Plenaries on Wed and Thur don't end until 19:30? Possible? Gregory. At 06:27 PM 11/7/2009, Go Kawaguchi wrote: >Hi >Olafur, Eric >and Futsal(and soccer) freaks > > >From: Olafur Gudmundsson >Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 10:49:51 GMT+0900 > >>May I suggest people just go in and edit their entries in the poll >>removing the >>days that they WILL not play. Look for the [Edit entry] button >>right below the >>summary of the poll but before the comments. >>I just updated my self to only play Sun and Thurs. >> Olafur > >Yes. Plese recheck the doodle precisely as soon as possible, after >checking my home-made site. >http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ > >To get enough player at the court, I'm gonna wear a shirt written by >"IETF FUTSAL on Sun. Wed. Thu. 7-830pm" >to appeal to register the doodle all the session at ANA hotel until >I think it's done. >and pass a paper to all the freaks printed the site's HTML document. > >GO Kawaguchi > > >>At 18:26 07/11/2009, Eric Burger wrote: >>>I am tempted to suggest we re-doodle, as the earlier time may impact >>>ability to attend. For me, Thursday I can definitely attend; it is at >>>the edge of possible for tonight; and I cannot do Wednesday. >>> >>>On Nov 7, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Go Kawaguchi wrote: >>> >>>>Hi >>>>Futsal(and soccer) freaks >>>> >>>>Finally! >>>>We've booked futsal courts which are the same as Mr. JINMEI's place. >>>>(But changed the time) >>>> >>>>Confirm the followings info, and participate, >>>>please! >>>> >>>> >>>>-- summary -- >>>>Booked name: IETF >>>>Date: >>>>Sun. 8th >>>>Wed. 11th >>>>Thu. 12th >>>>Time: >>>>19:00-20:30 (same all days) >>>>Court Name: >>>>I-Fut Ujina >>>>Address: >>>>4-8 Ujina-Higashi 3-chome Minami-Ku Hiroshima city >>>>Fee: >>>>if player 20 person, around 1000 yen, or >>>>if 15 person, around 1250 yen >>>> >>>>Some more info: >>>>http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ >>>> >>>> >>>>GO Kawaguchi >>>> >>>> >>>>Subject: Re:[76attendees] Soccer, part III >>>>From: JINMEI Tatuya >>>>Date: Fri Nov 06 2009 18:03:16 GMT+0900 >>>> >>>>>... I've already booked one court for Thursday >>>>>evening). If you're willing to organize the additional session, >>>>>whether it's on Thursday or not, please feel free to do so. > >_______________________________________________ >76attendees mailing list >76attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From ole@cisco.com Sat Nov 7 20:12:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18893A6937 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:12:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.586 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.586 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.013, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wpiEtkp5+kSx for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:12:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADEF3A699C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:12:24 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAJPU9UqrR7H+/2dsb2JhbADCaYEcCAGIBAmNWYJUgWoE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,702,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="427358956" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2009 04:12:47 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA84ClL1011916; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:12:47 GMT Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:12:07 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Brian E Carpenter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4AF63EAF.9050308@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Questions about buying train tickets in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:12:25 -0000 NEWS FLASH: The JTB desk in the lobby of the ANA hotel can arrange tickets for you! Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From fred@cisco.com Sat Nov 7 20:13:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A5A3A6937 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:13:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.307 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.307 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.292, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yWTaGoIennQt for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:13:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com (sj-iport-5.cisco.com [171.68.10.87]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D693A68CB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:13:03 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-5.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,702,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="102932835" Received: from hkg-core-1.cisco.com ([64.104.123.94]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2009 04:13:28 +0000 Received: from host-24-88.meeting.ietf.org (tky-vpn-client-231-112.cisco.com [10.70.231.112]) by hkg-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA84DQWT026034; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:13:27 GMT Message-Id: From: Fred Baker To: Cullen Jennings In-Reply-To: <55AB77CB-37A8-4BF0-9BA3-A68CEFAF2F5E@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:13:26 +0900 References: <55AB77CB-37A8-4BF0-9BA3-A68CEFAF2F5E@cisco.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Great local coffee? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:13:06 -0000 Your call on whether this is "great local coffee", but there is a Starbucks at the corner to the right from the ANA. Cross the street headed west and proceed up to the second floor. That said, the words "Japanese", "local", and "coffee" probably don't belong in the same sentence... On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Cullen Jennings wrote: > > Anyone found a good place? > > I like the name of "Juniper Coffee" > > http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&q=map%20of%20hiroshima%2C%20coffee&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From simon.perreault@viagenie.ca Sat Nov 7 20:18:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF49A3A684C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:18:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W5rvPlK7bbfG for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:18:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1739C3A682B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:18:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-16-233.meeting.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:20a:95ff:fef7:a2af]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8505320E54 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:19:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4AF646BD.9060001@viagenie.ca> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:19:09 +0900 From: Simon Perreault User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] RFID blocker card X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:18:49 -0000 Hello, What is the purpose of the black RFID blocker card? I don't know what to do with it. Thanks, Simon -- DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca vCard 4.0 --> http://www.vcarddav.org From ole@cisco.com Sat Nov 7 20:28:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524403A69A5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:28:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.586 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.586 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.013, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VEO1H7Ut6Ozl for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:28:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EC33A684C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:28:32 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEABfY9UqrR7H+/2dsb2JhbADCW4EcCAGIBAmNVoJUgWoEgWg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,702,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="427364036" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2009 04:28:57 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA84Sv49017125; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:28:57 GMT Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:28:18 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Simon Perreault In-Reply-To: <4AF646BD.9060001@viagenie.ca> Message-ID: References: <4AF646BD.9060001@viagenie.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID blocker card X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:28:33 -0000 It lets you opt-out, makes your card unreadable,etc. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Simon Perreault wrote: > Hello, > > What is the purpose of the black RFID blocker card? I don't know what to > do with it. > > Thanks, > Simon > -- > DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca > STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca > vCard 4.0 --> http://www.vcarddav.org > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From joe.abley@icann.org Sat Nov 7 20:30:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BBA3A68CB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:30:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uE51UdJeoiuL for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:30:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXPFE100-2.exc.icann.org (expfe100-2.exc.icann.org [64.78.22.237]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698203A684C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:30:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.232]) by EXPFE100-2.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.237]) with mapi; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:30:39 -0800 From: Joe Abley To: Ole Jacobsen Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:30:38 -0800 Thread-Topic: [76attendees] RFID blocker card Thread-Index: AcpgLDlRGmuU+EvNTXyDxGy/NQjLbA== Message-ID: References: <4AF646BD.9060001@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID blocker card X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:30:15 -0000 On 2009-11-08, at 13:28, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > It lets you opt-out, makes your card unreadable,etc. So presumably this is so that you can choose to opt-in some times and =20 opt-out other times? If you just wanted to opt out, you could just throw away the RFID tag. =20 You wouldn't need to hide it. Joe From osamu@wide.ad.jp Sat Nov 7 20:32:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60753A69A0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:32:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.704 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.704 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, J_CHICKENPOX_45=0.6, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9IlIGJXQkq5C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:32:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5AF23A6942 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:32:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-16-33.meeting.ietf.org (host-16-33.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.33]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 860174C13D; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:32:26 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-108-174671712; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQ2ZCPBsoQiAbJEI9JBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <4AF646BD.9060001@viagenie.ca> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:32:25 +0900 Message-Id: <8A45C13C-CF88-4C10-90E0-2BD1DD58016B@wide.ad.jp> References: <4AF646BD.9060001@viagenie.ca> To: Simon Perreault X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID blocker card X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:32:05 -0000 --Apple-Mail-108-174671712 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes The black card is skimming protection card. If you stack RFID card and the skimming protection card(which is black one), your RFID card will be safe from skimming. osamu On 2009/11/08, at 13:19, Simon Perreault wrote: > Hello, > > What is the purpose of the black RFID blocker card? 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(192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm593146ywf.20.2009.11.07.20.38.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:38:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:38:32 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gregory M. Lebovitz" References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] Futsal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:30-21:30 changed! X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:38:19 -0000 Hi ALL futsal(and futball) freaks I've changed the all schedule from 19:30 to 21:00. I wouldn't be able to slide the schedule to be late any longer. *Attention* from 730pm to 9pm will be held all the Futsal event. also check out http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ Subject: Re:[76attendees] Futsal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:00-20:30 From: Gregory M. Lebovitz Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 13:09:32 GMT+0900 > Futbal-istos, > I will be able to join on Wed and Thur, and I will be late on Thur. I > would have joined for Sunday, but we have an IAB function which prevents > me from making it. > > is there anyway we can make the time later: like 20:00-21:30, or at > least 19:30-21:00? 19:00 is just too early, given that the Plenaries on > Wed and Thur don't end until 19:30? Possible? > > Gregory. > > At 06:27 PM 11/7/2009, Go Kawaguchi wrote: >> Hi >> Olafur, Eric >> and Futsal(and soccer) freaks >> >> >> From: Olafur Gudmundsson >> Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 10:49:51 GMT+0900 >> >>> May I suggest people just go in and edit their entries in the poll >>> removing the >>> days that they WILL not play. Look for the [Edit entry] button right >>> below the >>> summary of the poll but before the comments. >>> I just updated my self to only play Sun and Thurs. >>> Olafur >> >> Yes. Plese recheck the doodle precisely as soon as possible, after >> checking my home-made site. >> http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ >> >> To get enough player at the court, I'm gonna wear a shirt written by >> "IETF FUTSAL on Sun. Wed. Thu. 7-830pm" >> to appeal to register the doodle all the session at ANA hotel until I >> think it's done. >> and pass a paper to all the freaks printed the site's HTML document. >> >> GO Kawaguchi From simon.perreault@viagenie.ca Sat Nov 7 20:43:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA153A68FA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:43:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.15 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.15 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.450, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_45=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hK6x7JDoAF5V for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:43:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDF63A6837 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:43:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-16-233.meeting.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:20a:95ff:fef7:a2af]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2DB2C20E54; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:43:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4AF64C89.6010108@viagenie.ca> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:43:53 +0900 From: Simon Perreault User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?5Lit5p2RIOS/rg==?= References: <4AF646BD.9060001@viagenie.ca> <8A45C13C-CF88-4C10-90E0-2BD1DD58016B@wide.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: <8A45C13C-CF88-4C10-90E0-2BD1DD58016B@wide.ad.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID blocker card X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:43:32 -0000 ä¸­æ‘ ä¿® wrote: > If you stack RFID card and the skimming protection card(which is black > one), > your RFID card will be safe from skimming. This confuses me again. Is the lawful act of reading the card for blue-sheeting purposes considered skimming or not? If I want to opt-in, should I do this or not? Simon -- DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca vCard 4.0 --> http://www.vcarddav.org From Wesley.E.George@sprint.com Sat Nov 7 20:46:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133333A69B4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:46:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_45=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2yb71RBhJSHP for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:46:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from VA3EHSOBE001.bigfish.com (va3ehsobe001.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.180.11]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFDB3A69A5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:46:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail13-va3-R.bigfish.com (10.7.14.235) by VA3EHSOBE001.bigfish.com (10.7.40.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.340.0; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:47:15 +0000 Received: from mail13-va3 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail13-va3-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2A61088773; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:47:15 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: -40 X-BigFish: VS-40(zz542N98dN4015L9371Pba9lzz1202hzz1033ILz2fh87h176h6bh61h) X-Spam-TCS-SCL: 0:0 X-FB-DOMAIN-IP-MATCH: fail Received: from mail13-va3 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail13-va3 (MessageSwitch) id 1257655635446218_3546; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VA3EHSMHS032.bigfish.com (unknown [10.7.14.250]) by mail13-va3.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6947015A0057; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plsasdm2.corp.sprint.com (144.230.168.26) by VA3EHSMHS032.bigfish.com (10.7.99.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.0.482.32; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:47:15 +0000 Received: from PLSWH02A.ad.sprint.com (PLSWH02A.corp.sprint.com [144.226.242.131]) by plsasdm2.corp.sprint.com (Sentrion-MP-4.0.0/Sentrion-MP-4.0.0) with ESMTP id nA84lCSW023544 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:47:13 -0600 Received: from PLSWM01C.ad.sprint.com ([144.226.242.77]) by PLSWH02A.ad.sprint.com ([2002:90e2:f283::90e2:f283]) with mapi; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:47:12 -0600 From: "George, Wes E [NTK]" To: Simon Perreault , =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQ2ZCPBsoQiAbJEI9JBsoQg==?= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:47:10 -0600 Thread-Topic: [76attendees] RFID blocker card Thread-Index: AcpgLhrNagZDoYfsS8iwc9KZ1B4kQgAADuwQ Message-ID: References: <4AF646BD.9060001@viagenie.ca> <8A45C13C-CF88-4C10-90E0-2BD1DD58016B@wide.ad.jp> <4AF64C89.6010108@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: <4AF64C89.6010108@viagenie.ca> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Reverse-DNS: smtpls2.sprint.com Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID blocker card X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:46:52 -0000 If as indicated on the materials, only a number (and no personal informatio= n) is stored on the RFID card, why would skimming be a concern? Is this jus= t standard procedure when doing tests of this type to supply a shield? Thanks, Wes -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Simon Perreault Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:44 PM To: =1B$BCfB<=1B(B =1B$B=3D$=1B(B Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID blocker card =1B$BCfB<=1B(B =1B$B=3D$=1B(B wrote: > If you stack RFID card and the skimming protection card(which is black > one), > your RFID card will be safe from skimming. This confuses me again. Is the lawful act of reading the card for blue-sheeting purposes considered skimming or not? If I want to opt-in, should I do this or not? 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From gregory.ietf@gmail.com Sat Nov 7 20:49:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518B23A69B4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:49:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.163 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.163 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.164, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_63=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FUBM-HNYKYCt for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:49:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f192.google.com (mail-yx0-f192.google.com [209.85.210.192]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1053A69C3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:49:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so2321261yxe.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:49:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:x-mailer:date:to :from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type; bh=cGRljzTrE9fWDdEVC4EJnv6K+2z3fLOfmhj9TrRhtQ8=; b=cqmj1IXearQWROepvVqDKDB5Txq/9GpV0U0i69NRdX+qGxM2+pz839+G7MLb7ZIEJb 4K2NcS0miXKP2Ifnc6REtCEF52JcrSh0SOtwAf05ydXWh26zJu4GiJnwxkSUa3VCbd+J tRsV+4lMDcFjKfw4L399OBhkCcQmb9lEoWcww= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:x-mailer:date:to:from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type; b=mtNHCIwuULq3c6aBmfCtfAcUo39wQGZPNNpOPawrhga6vNJ6MmouuqXTH+OWz3tJ5g sTOpJ0BJyH+a2bK/zz4FbryGoAw3NlSzO+hTi6NfSLILhiUQr3U8o7s2oim23kYMC71G r2TQabV/g8aJaf8BgG9BLgHrPoC3g8yXrZSz4= Received: by 10.90.62.22 with SMTP id k22mr1821070aga.48.1257655774416; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:49:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from Gregory-T60.gmail.com (nat-service4.juniper.net [66.129.225.151]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm715150yxe.57.2009.11.07.20.49.32 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:49:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:49:27 -0800 To: Go Kawaguchi From: "Gregory M. Lebovitz" In-Reply-To: <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] Futsal / Soccer / Futbal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:30-21:30 changed! X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:49:13 -0000 Re-posting with "Soccer" and "Futbal" in the subject, in case other players haven't been following list, and simply search on one of those key words. - Gregory. At 08:38 PM 11/7/2009, Go Kawaguchi wrote: >Hi >ALL futsal(and futball) freaks > >I've changed the all schedule from 19:30 to 21:00. >I wouldn't be able to slide the schedule to be late any longer. > > >*Attention* >from 730pm to 9pm will be held all the Futsal event. > > >also check out >http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ > > >Subject: Re:[76attendees] Futsal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:00-20:30 >From: Gregory M. Lebovitz >Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 13:09:32 GMT+0900 > > > Futbal-istos, > > I will be able to join on Wed and Thur, and I will be late on Thur. I > > would have joined for Sunday, but we have an IAB function which prevents > > me from making it. > > > > is there anyway we can make the time later: like 20:00-21:30, or at > > least 19:30-21:00? 19:00 is just too early, given that the Plenaries on > > Wed and Thur don't end until 19:30? Possible? > > > > Gregory. > > > > At 06:27 PM 11/7/2009, Go Kawaguchi wrote: > >> Hi > >> Olafur, Eric > >> and Futsal(and soccer) freaks > >> > >> > >> From: Olafur Gudmundsson > >> Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 10:49:51 GMT+0900 > >> > >>> May I suggest people just go in and edit their entries in the poll > >>> removing the > >>> days that they WILL not play. Look for the [Edit entry] button right > >>> below the > >>> summary of the poll but before the comments. > >>> I just updated my self to only play Sun and Thurs. > >>> Olafur > >> > >> Yes. Plese recheck the doodle precisely as soon as possible, after > >> checking my home-made site. > >> http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ > >> > >> To get enough player at the court, I'm gonna wear a shirt written by > >> "IETF FUTSAL on Sun. Wed. Thu. 7-830pm" > >> to appeal to register the doodle all the session at ANA hotel until I > >> think it's done. > >> and pass a paper to all the freaks printed the site's HTML document. > >> > >> GO Kawaguchi From deepanshu@huawei.com Sat Nov 7 20:49:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9983A69B4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:49:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.751 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.751 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_45=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vS5K7e8ktOrD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:49:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from szxga02-in.huawei.com (szxga02-in.huawei.com [119.145.14.65]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD083A698A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:49:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (szxga02-in [172.24.2.6]) by szxga02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KSR0003KXFWLE@szxga02-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:50:20 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.1.6]) by szxga02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KSR007HYXFW2I@szxga02-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:50:20 +0800 (CST) Received: from jys8055621 (host-17-129.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.17.129]) by szxml02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KSR006COXFQEH@szxml02-in.huawei.com>; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:50:20 +0800 (CST) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:50:14 +0800 From: Deepanshu In-reply-to: <8A45C13C-CF88-4C10-90E0-2BD1DD58016B@wide.ad.jp> To: =?gb2312?B?J9bQtOUg0N4n?= , 'Simon Perreault' Message-id: <000f01ca602e$f9fa6820$81115d85@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Thread-index: AcpgLIkxP/hJVQAFSkCiZK9Y2yuBxgAAaArA Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID blocker card X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:49:58 -0000 =A1=B5If you stack RFID card and the skimming protection card(which is = black =20 =A1=B5one), > your RFID card will be safe from skimming. Does the placement of black card matter while stacking? e.g between the reader and RFID card or it doesn't matter just keeping both of them = together will do. Deepanshu -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf Of =D6=D0=B4=E5 =D0=DE Sent: 2009=C4=EA11=D4=C28=C8=D5 12:32 To: Simon Perreault Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID blocker card The black card is skimming protection card. If you stack RFID card and the skimming protection card(which is black =20 one), your RFID card will be safe from skimming. osamu On 2009/11/08, at 13:19, Simon Perreault wrote: > Hello, > > What is the purpose of the black RFID blocker card? I don't know =20 > what to > do with it. > > Thanks, > Simon > --=20 > DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca > STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca > vCard 4.0 --> http://www.vcarddav.org > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From ole@cisco.com Sat Nov 7 20:51:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901363A69A5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:51:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.587 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.587 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.012, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W1uN3bPAGKYG for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:51:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6EDB3A698A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:51:30 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAMbc9UqrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbADCWIEcCAGVYYQ+BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,702,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="427370244" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2009 04:51:56 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA84puZB013654; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:51:56 GMT Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:51:16 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "George, Wes E [NTK]" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4AF646BD.9060001@viagenie.ca> <8A45C13C-CF88-4C10-90E0-2BD1DD58016B@wide.ad.jp> <4AF64C89.6010108@viagenie.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID blocker card X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:51:31 -0000 Some of the folks who commented on the experiment pointed out that it would be POSSIBLE (but not easy) to figure out that ID tag # 1234578 actually belongs to Ole Jacobsen. Given this knowledge, you could, using your own RFID reader equipment, theoritically follow my movements (or maybe that's not the right term) in this building. In order to prevent any such skimming/tracking, you can "hide" your RFID card and only unhide it if/when you present yourself at the microphone or "sign" the e-bluesheet. On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, George, Wes E [NTK] wrote: > If as indicated on the materials, only a number (and no personal > information) is stored on the RFID card, why would skimming be a > concern? Is this just standard procedure when doing tests of this > type to supply a shield? > > > Thanks, > Wes > From zach@sensinode.com Sat Nov 7 21:02:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB853A6919 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:02:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.74 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ETDuHUtjUwng for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:02:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from auth-smtp.nebula.fi (auth-smtp.nebula.fi [217.30.180.105]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290C33A684C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:02:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-17-149.meeting.ietf.org (host-17-149.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.17.149]) (authenticated bits=0) by auth-smtp.nebula.fi (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id nA852dpQ012092 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:02:44 +0200 From: Zach Shelby Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:02:40 +0900 Message-Id: To: 76attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: [76attendees] Salsa in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:02:25 -0000 For any dancing engineers, it turns out Hiroshima is the Salsa capital =20= of Japan ;-) I ran into some local dancers, and tested their local =20 latin club called Mambos. Just a 10 minute walk from ANA, lots of fun. =20= Tuesday night after 10 pm there should be plenty of people there, so =20 head there after the social. #20 on the Get Hiroshima map = http://maps.google.com/maps?f=3Dq&source=3Ds_q&hl=3Den&geocode=3D&q=3DMamb= os,+Hiroshima&sll=3D37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=3D37.052328,58.183594&ie=3DUTF= 8&hq=3DMambos,&hnear=3DHiroshima+City,+Hiroshima+Prefecture,+Japan&ll=3D34= .394658,132.47117&spn=3D0.037749,0.05682&t=3Dh&z=3D14&iwloc=3DA&cid=3D1406= 3983119572030389 Zach --=20 http://www.sensinode.com http://zachshelby.org - My blog =93On the Internet of Things=94 Mobile: +358 40 7796297 Zach Shelby Head of Research Sensinode Ltd. Kidekuja 2 88610 Vuokatti, FINLAND This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain =20= legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, =20= please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system =20 without producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. From osamu@wide.ad.jp Sat Nov 7 21:07:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564543A698A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:07:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.704 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.704 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, J_CHICKENPOX_45=0.6, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 855PuLmAOkky for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:07:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4D63A68CB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:07:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-16-33.meeting.ietf.org (host-16-33.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.33]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E33AC4C53A; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:07:32 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-110-176778333; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQ2ZCPBsoQiAbJEI9JBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:07:32 +0900 Message-Id: <20C92BEC-3D24-45A2-9042-9BACF0CA4928@wide.ad.jp> References: To: "George, Wes E [NTK]" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID blocker card X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:07:12 -0000 --Apple-Mail-110-176778333 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp; format=flowed; delsp=yes Yes, the random number stored on the RFID. There is no personal information on the card. Skimming protection card is just "gift" from WIDE project. This skimming protection card is general purpose for RFID card not only for this experiment. It is not standard procedure when doing tests like this. This is hospitality from WIDE project. osamu > > If as indicated on the materials, only a number (and no personal > information) is stored on the RFID card, why would skimming be a > concern? Is this just standard procedure when doing tests of this > type to supply a shield? > > > Thanks, > Wes > > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Simon Perreault > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:44 PM > To: $BCfB<(B $B=$(B > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID blocker card > > $BCfB<(B $B=$(B wrote: >> If you stack RFID card and the skimming protection card(which is >> black >> one), >> your RFID card will be safe from skimming. > > This confuses me again. > > Is the lawful act of reading the card for blue-sheeting purposes > considered skimming or not? > > If I want to opt-in, should I do this or not? > > Simon > -- > DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca > STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca > vCard 4.0 --> http://www.vcarddav.org > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > This e-mail may contain Sprint Nextel Company proprietary > information intended for the sole use of the recipient(s). 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charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:09:36 +0900 References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs19.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal / Soccer / Futbal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:30-21:30 changed! X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:09:17 -0000 Thanks for pushing back the start time. That makes today a possibility for me. What time to meet? I'm willing to fund a taxi if that is faster. How late can we leave? Welcome reception nominally ends at 1900, but Google maps says Futsal place is 45 minutes away by train. On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Gregory M. Lebovitz wrote: > Re-posting with "Soccer" and "Futbal" in the subject, in case other > players haven't been following list, and simply search on one of > those key words. - Gregory. > > At 08:38 PM 11/7/2009, Go Kawaguchi wrote: >> Hi >> ALL futsal(and futball) freaks >> >> I've changed the all schedule from 19:30 to 21:00. >> I wouldn't be able to slide the schedule to be late any longer. >> >> >> *Attention* >> from 730pm to 9pm will be held all the Futsal event. >> >> >> also check out >> http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ >> >> >> Subject: Re:[76attendees] Futsal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:00-20:30 >> From: Gregory M. Lebovitz >> Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 13:09:32 GMT+0900 >> >> > Futbal-istos, >> > I will be able to join on Wed and Thur, and I will be late on >> Thur. I >> > would have joined for Sunday, but we have an IAB function which >> prevents >> > me from making it. >> > >> > is there anyway we can make the time later: like 20:00-21:30, or at >> > least 19:30-21:00? 19:00 is just too early, given that the >> Plenaries on >> > Wed and Thur don't end until 19:30? Possible? >> > >> > Gregory. >> > >> > At 06:27 PM 11/7/2009, Go Kawaguchi wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> Olafur, Eric >> >> and Futsal(and soccer) freaks >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Olafur Gudmundsson >> >> Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 10:49:51 GMT+0900 >> >> >> >>> May I suggest people just go in and edit their entries in the >> poll >> >>> removing the >> >>> days that they WILL not play. Look for the [Edit entry] button >> right >> >>> below the >> >>> summary of the poll but before the comments. >> >>> I just updated my self to only play Sun and Thurs. >> >>> Olafur >> >> >> >> Yes. Plese recheck the doodle precisely as soon as possible, after >> >> checking my home-made site. >> >> http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ >> >> >> >> To get enough player at the court, I'm gonna wear a shirt >> written by >> >> "IETF FUTSAL on Sun. Wed. Thu. 7-830pm" >> >> to appeal to register the doodle all the session at ANA hotel >> until I >> >> think it's done. >> >> and pass a paper to all the freaks printed the site's HTML >> document. >> >> >> >> GO Kawaguchi > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From gg55go@gmail.com Sat Nov 7 21:14:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC37A3A69E7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:14:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.316 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.316 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.283, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hf4P4Bj0mk81 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pz0-f204.google.com (mail-pz0-f204.google.com [209.85.222.204]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE143A69C8 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by pzk42 with SMTP id 42so1743990pzk.31 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:14:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hFvJtRGU7kB5UpJcqEcYnUnms2fOkBJisW+DQ63Rjm8=; b=UfmP3fGN0BSxK1Ppm/Gqtan/Xg5WhE8/uh4pReT4ds4tsrtn/10Nx+jfovhuNoRCjV f+Dy08cbHlvffKb79bQ6p4TWH95VNY93c6QMRDL77njzbcgFIkU1IJxYIOMQefmVB0/B WJlzQZC4Z+yktewq7RFm3HLnPX3sdOWAoRrC4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JZzkjmOJiDHClFTEtGO9ehuza8Vv4uc89U586rcEMR/KtDHTeBOPNkdPNY8R94TJnb uyzp+TBcYitPa9z8zESgNfPQaYhcW+z2QnvhfZwSWhXbcP7fUuBO/EQvybsHmWx2yKwT L0gYphtueHv1GF0fnvscD/mFn8hRcfz+JGYds= Received: by 10.114.186.37 with SMTP id j37mr10462562waf.36.1257657293758; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:14:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.25? (192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm1048793pzk.4.2009.11.07.21.14.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:14:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF653C9.9050001@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:14:49 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gregory M. Lebovitz" References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] Futsal / Soccer / Futbal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:30-21:00 changed! X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:14:41 -0000 All Futsal / Soccer / Futbal freaks *not 19:30-21:30 but 19:30-21:00* I wrote wrong subject. I'm so sorry. GO From: Gregory M. Lebovitz Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 13:49:27 GMT+0900 > Re-posting with "Soccer" and "Futbal" in the subject, in case other > players haven't been following list, and simply search on one of those > key words. - Gregory. 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(192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm1057241pzk.4.2009.11.07.21.34.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:34:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF65863.3010901@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:34:27 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Burger References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> <56991E81-AD16-4164-B793-2F87B079875A@standardstrack.com> In-Reply-To: <56991E81-AD16-4164-B793-2F87B079875A@standardstrack.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] Futsal / Soccer / Futbal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:30-21:00 changed! X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:34:12 -0000 Hi Eric, Gregory and Futsal / Soccer / Futbal freaks By taxi, meet up at ANA hotel at 19:10 (at least) By streetcar, meet up at ANA hotel at 18:30 Are these OK? also confirm http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ GO From: Eric Burger Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 14:09:36 GMT+0900 > Thanks for pushing back the start time. That makes today a possibility > for me. > > What time to meet? I'm willing to fund a taxi if that is faster. > > How late can we leave? Welcome reception nominally ends at 1900, but > Google maps says Futsal place is 45 minutes away by train. > > On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Gregory M. Lebovitz wrote: > >> Re-posting with "Soccer" and "Futbal" in the subject, in case other >> players haven't been following list, and simply search on one of those >> key words. - Gregory. Gregory You're right. >> >> At 08:38 PM 11/7/2009, Go Kawaguchi wrote: >>> Hi >>> ALL futsal(and futball) freaks >>> >>> I've changed the all schedule from 19:30 to 21:00. >>> I wouldn't be able to slide the schedule to be late any longer. >>> >>> >>> *Attention* >>> from 730pm to 9pm will be held all the Futsal event. >>> >>> >>> also check out >>> http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ From ryuji.wakikawa@gmail.com Sat Nov 7 21:37:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8AE3A69E1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:37:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lFHTqJ4m-MUq for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:37:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1543A69D0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:37:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by pwj20 with SMTP id 20so919985pwj.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:37:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:in-reply-to:subject :references:message-id:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:date:cc:x-mailer; bh=Q/lM9BYpZFxhenCqZa6RMcOOnxACOdP2TKIulMiiCj8=; b=xxUjievyHF7w/kI7cXKf+WtNWrGCDILiiPcGj5mdiibeoG+dyZVfEZUtz7+z/mzE/Z Q4I/qi36A+S56KeLV+GM2s+8rDP2OaU+6GXSp7I/0ozbc69E7yLQOM9PW0d0zf8or4JE ZV49t3dTn7+xKcsALzTo66CkHekFsAZrEVeMI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:in-reply-to:subject:references:message-id:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:date:cc:x-mailer; b=aMdbvHLWbfyp7d/2ycNV7JQFoBHe9TQ4EFA+hcQyBuuO4BMaia8JFpMNUud+MPfspa jnmC8w5r5FD1RUjknA7ixPEmmcqAiBp5AK+yXX+DHj+2HE0Bl8Se3CfkLmKBN185gh0Q a2g8ouZi9gqKeVkMNzvo5fW53jmXKuSm/KMCE= Received: by 10.114.186.29 with SMTP id j29mr10506220waf.4.1257658646477; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:37:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-113-31.meeting.ietf.org (host-113-31.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.113.31]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm1123730pxi.0.2009.11.07.21.37.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:37:25 -0800 (PST) From: Ryuji Wakikawa To: Ole Jacobsen In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <2B39F3B0-754D-4D0B-8CAA-7A0E0FA1A8BD@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:37:21 +0900 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org, Katsutoshi Nishida Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question for DoCoMo users X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:37:05 -0000 http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/service/data/foma/index.html AFAIK, once you buy the moperaU service, you will receive USER/PASS info from the DoCoMo. #I Cc my Docomo friend. He might give us better answer. ryuji On 2009/11/07, at 23:53, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > I have a Japanese SIM card from DoCoMo and using it in a "generic" 3G > phone (not from DoCoMo). > > I was told to set up a data account as follows: > > APN mopera.net > USER > PASS > (blank for user and password) > > This does not work and also my old MOVA e-nail doesn't work since I > don't know how to set up the account (but since the phone cannot > connect to the Internet, that's secondary). > > Any help would be appreciated, I may have to buy a DoCoMo phone, > but that seems like overkill... > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From bob.hinden@gmail.com Sat Nov 7 21:53:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D489D3A6974 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:53:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AIvlrXrRSp5w for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:53:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DB13A6906 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:53:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so3645eyd.51 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:53:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=93orJXRpCc8IrX6YF/zBgF/7j5NCbiAk+EYtdqPeh5c=; b=vueKtRX1poXzIKnrPCXYDjwNZvzvhasBUZjqdrYqSebHiAgh8enl0qhlHWnGdxthN+ XKkrGwvkoLUixf7MeskqcDUFxN9WFN2PnWsWBT9YvZLA3ylKwmyZ4JDy/xXPNyFxDtLA K1wE2C78i0QbeG6+r8x023uEfTsny4oXTr5m8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=RcRnC1e8FFePSdPIEEQlj+vDx/GXvZEwq7laby1q5IO0rxyyp+GTK3vBTbH1fWd17f acQ7DxNOWvs8onw2sa+WvrQx+uUm06H7S7JyTeMSzqxRgvZxvXckIoro5yt+5gggMi3g lWCHdWYC7EI4Jn90uMI7o+0oXaPBGc48Wfg+U= Received: by 10.213.23.200 with SMTP id s8mr1486206ebb.52.1257659619354; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:53:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-113-7.meeting.ietf.org (host-113-7.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.113.7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm2850014eyz.11.2009.11.07.21.53.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:53:38 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: <785419A4-825E-40AA-80EF-AADC8C329A7A@ericsson.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:53:32 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <93DB377D-B2A7-41D9-8AC0-3127C72061FA@gmail.com> References: <8c99930d0911062021m663125a8xb0609684237634e8@mail.gmail.com> <785419A4-825E-40AA-80EF-AADC8C329A7A@ericsson.com> To: Christian Vogt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM in NHK building on 3rd floor X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:53:18 -0000 On Nov 7, 2009, at 6:40 PM, Christian Vogt wrote: > Seven-Eleven shops usually have an ATM as well. There is one on the > small street behind the NHK building, when coming from the Ana hotel. I was able to get cash today at an ATM in a 7/11. It took me a while to figure out the correct orientation to insert the card (the graphics implied doing it upside down), but once I got past that I didn't have any problem getting yen. Bob From eburger@standardstrack.com Sat Nov 7 21:53:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2733A6974 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:53:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.179 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.179 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.180, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_63=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NDqgrQVsOjw1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:53:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from gs19.inmotionhosting.com (gs19b.inmotionhosting.com [66.117.3.189]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A613A6906 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:53:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-40-25.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.40.25]) by gs19.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N70j1-00045W-76; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:54:07 -0800 Message-Id: <52DB04A6-CCEA-473E-BD82-AAB48EEC5B78@standardstrack.com> From: Eric Burger To: Go Kawaguchi In-Reply-To: <4AF65863.3010901@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:54:12 +0900 References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> <56991E81-AD16-4164-B793-2F87B079875A@standardstrack.com> <4AF65863.3010901@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs19.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal / Soccer / Futbal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:30-21:00 changed! X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:53:52 -0000 I'll be in the ANA lobby at 19:10. You should be able to pick me out as I'll be in my shorts, at least. Anyone else for taxi? On Nov 8, 2009, at 2:34 PM, Go Kawaguchi wrote: > Hi > Eric, Gregory > and Futsal / Soccer / Futbal freaks > > By taxi, > meet up at ANA hotel at 19:10 (at least) > > By streetcar, > meet up at ANA hotel at 18:30 > > Are these OK? > > also confirm > http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ > > GO > > > From: Eric Burger > Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 14:09:36 GMT+0900 > >> Thanks for pushing back the start time. That makes today a >> possibility >> for me. >> >> What time to meet? I'm willing to fund a taxi if that is faster. >> >> How late can we leave? Welcome reception nominally ends at 1900, but >> Google maps says Futsal place is 45 minutes away by train. >> >> On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Gregory M. Lebovitz wrote: >> >>> Re-posting with "Soccer" and "Futbal" in the subject, in case other >>> players haven't been following list, and simply search on one of >>> those >>> key words. - Gregory. > > Gregory > You're right. > > >>> >>> At 08:38 PM 11/7/2009, Go Kawaguchi wrote: >>>> Hi >>>> ALL futsal(and futball) freaks >>>> >>>> I've changed the all schedule from 19:30 to 21:00. >>>> I wouldn't be able to slide the schedule to be late any longer. >>>> >>>> >>>> *Attention* >>>> from 730pm to 9pm will be held all the Futsal event. >>>> >>>> >>>> also check out >>>> http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ > From richard.barnes@gmail.com Sat Nov 7 21:56:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BBF63A67A4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:56:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8ya3g4+cOxlw for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:56:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com (mail-fx0-f215.google.com [209.85.220.215]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CE73A6783 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:56:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so651592fxm.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:56:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=ukW4hVSpX5KotSd09YY7yqYFqsJ2PZ3lOulJ31+kMPg=; b=U3cUaVxFcrxRh4yPcYl0NOlFx96PcU+JutVXsmnMANBFRt8X6OKwnL1y6bhDkpjgtu u85mD4J57RAMBjp8WnDoWrzpHn2QK27CLfCfOBPszT1Raj0/8vQMVxrlCuuKrpsao0w2 utkO0xhg8t5cpbcWVt/2zMaH23sQHXx7MrBac= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=TXLAp453XYf7NcI/3DwvDIYi5mNF8Xv+It7f8PV+kGCljRPOIx/wYvBNnxa97zJREa PePyRN2KMqhis/frmocasmrcyrKUyoH/Mgphr2P+xm2+dCsZ9w6IjtDRaOO1KpxROsua sRV4Ho6NE9jzkpi/kUmd3BOonmNrSA4fILao4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.162.204 with SMTP id w12mr6906147bkx.18.1257659813188; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:56:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:56:53 +0900 Message-ID: <88ac5c710911072156g5e0662c5u22b3fb5bc29d701d@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Barnes To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [76attendees] Places to shop for electronics? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:56:34 -0000 Anyone know a place around here where one might buy RFID equipment? :) From agmalis@gmail.com Sat Nov 7 21:58:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525BE3A6783 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:58:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.274 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.274 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.325, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PLp72pRcHiyB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f192.google.com (mail-yx0-f192.google.com [209.85.210.192]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A76C3A6837 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so2342070yxe.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:58:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=kpTpx3coL0azMCAuzD09r7oblOoCwpQoRamPt5N9wmY=; b=Mk2SRbS2/kr6ZFijAtihvMJasKZyuEUa88+0uz8szyIYb2owtDx32P1hLRZGruWgev iCPAyJIes+xZiZRiyNS41dnlGSxKTqtDxZ6J0x2+vxvrMgxezJ3p36av52WQmuK3BU62 ss6vCeqDxuqDn93MamUGejSWaPwsyMlctNL/0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=ndNMeCC8GcBwzO9oQcLa38GUOPnSqoE1VGALo8xIpXR/8+orxlCa2pIL0blfcJoAT6 pjpfZGnLGj+GUrU4/IzcOELQxEGsvRVwC2N6g8IEy8KH4CUCtqUPOWcQkoRtLw/cBb8g 4l4t9kU/hqaC5F2wp3SqTCizSon2+Avmhpce0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.61.20 with SMTP id o20mr1575ank.166.1257659916122; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:58:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <669FA0CB-01DE-4466-B780-1C27E3965B29@blipp.com> References: <669FA0CB-01DE-4466-B780-1C27E3965B29@blipp.com> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:58:16 +0900 Message-ID: <8c99930d0911072158rf264140x71f59fa044840cf5@mail.gmail.com> To: Patrik Wallstrom Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:58:14 -0000 See my previous email on this list regarding the ATM in the post office on the 3rd floor of the NHK building across the street from the hotel. It's closed today, however. Cheers, Andy On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Patrik Wallstrom wrote: > Where can I find the closest working ATM for foreign credit cards that works > near the ANA Crowne Plaza? 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(192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm609463ywf.40.2009.11.07.22.10.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:10:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF660CA.1090902@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:10:18 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Burger , 76attendees@ietf.org References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> <56991E81-AD16-4164-B793-2F87B079875A@standardstrack.com> <4AF65863.3010901@gmail.com> <52DB04A6-CCEA-473E-BD82-AAB48EEC5B78@standardstrack.com> In-Reply-To: <52DB04A6-CCEA-473E-BD82-AAB48EEC5B78@standardstrack.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal / Soccer / Futbal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:30-21:00 changed! X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:09:59 -0000 Eric and all Futsal / Soccer / Futbal freaks OK. I'm comming from now on for newcomer events wearing an odd T-shirt, "IETF FUTSAL on Sun. Wed. Thu. 730-9pm" carrying on two papers about the site's article and a map for Futsal court. GO Kawaguchi From: Eric Burger Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 14:54:12 GMT+0900 > I'll be in the ANA lobby at 19:10. You should be able to pick me out as > I'll be in my shorts, at least. > > Anyone else for taxi? > > On Nov 8, 2009, at 2:34 PM, Go Kawaguchi wrote: > >> Hi >> Eric, Gregory >> and Futsal / Soccer / Futbal freaks >> >> By taxi, >> meet up at ANA hotel at 19:10 (at least) >> >> By streetcar, >> meet up at ANA hotel at 18:30 >> >> Are these OK? >> >> also confirm >> http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ >> >> GO >> >> >> From: Eric Burger >> Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 14:09:36 GMT+0900 >> >>> Thanks for pushing back the start time. That makes today a possibility >>> for me. >>> >>> What time to meet? I'm willing to fund a taxi if that is faster. >>> >>> How late can we leave? Welcome reception nominally ends at 1900, but >>> Google maps says Futsal place is 45 minutes away by train. From osamu@wide.ad.jp Sat Nov 7 22:13:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172143A67FF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:13:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.104 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.104 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q8EHtlWFMVvg for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:13:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EF33A67F6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:13:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::16:224:36ff:feed:1303] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:224:36ff:feed:1303]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 624324C13D; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:13:42 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-112-180747961; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQ2ZCPBsoQiAbJEI9JBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <88ac5c710911072156g5e0662c5u22b3fb5bc29d701d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:13:42 +0900 Message-Id: <6B44F797-994E-4023-8FD4-055F0F093811@wide.ad.jp> References: <88ac5c710911072156g5e0662c5u22b3fb5bc29d701d@mail.gmail.com> To: Richard Barnes X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Places to shop for electronics? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:13:25 -0000 --Apple-Mail-112-180747961 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Felica reader/writer(PASPY card for social event) is available at some electric shop like YAMADA denki and DEO DEO. But reader/writer for ISO15693(13.56 Mhz) is not sailed at shop on the town. osamu On 2009/11/08, at 14:56, Richard Barnes wrote: > Anyone know a place around here where one might buy RFID > equipment? :) > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > --Apple-Mail-112-180747961 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIKazCCBFww ggJEoAMCAQICAh2LMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMEUxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkpQMRUwEwYDVQQKEwxXSURF IFByb2plY3QxHzAdBgNVBAMTFm1lbWJlcnMgb3JpZW50ZWQgQ0EgMDIwHhcNMDkwNjA4MDQ1MjA0 WhcNMTEwNjMwMjM1OTU5WjBjMQswCQYDVQQGEwJKUDEVMBMGA1UEChMMV0lERSBQcm9qZWN0MRww GgYDVQQDExMwMDEzIE9zYW11IE5ha2FtdXJhMR8wHQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhBvc2FtdUB3aWRlLmFk LmpwMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDLOEZZyTBbUjYK6yiNWkIM3bLQdsRDt5BS 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(host-128-64.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.128.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm1233476pxi.8.2009.11.07.22.45.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:45:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF66900.8070502@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:45:20 +1300 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fred Baker References: <55AB77CB-37A8-4BF0-9BA3-A68CEFAF2F5E@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Great local coffee? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:45:04 -0000 I had what I found an acceptable espresso at Caffe Veloce. You turn right (north) instead of crossing to Starbucks, and walk a block or so. Not sure if they can do strange things like latte or cappuccino, though. And not one word of English did they speak. Brian On 2009-11-08 17:13, Fred Baker wrote: > Your call on whether this is "great local coffee", but there is a > Starbucks at the corner to the right from the ANA. Cross the street > headed west and proceed up to the second floor. > > That said, the words "Japanese", "local", and "coffee" probably don't > belong in the same sentence... > > On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Cullen Jennings wrote: > >> >> Anyone found a good place? >> >> I like the name of "Juniper Coffee" >> >> http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&q=map%20of%20hiroshima%2C%20coffee&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From dromasca@avaya.com Sat Nov 7 22:49:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1917A3A688C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:49:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.489 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.489 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.110, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HrNv05IdA5Pt for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:49:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF68A3A67A4 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:49:05 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,702,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="162603840" Received: from unknown (HELO nj300815-nj-erheast.avaya.com) ([198.152.6.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2009 01:49:28 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.16]) by nj300815-nj-erheast-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2009 01:49:27 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:49:05 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4AF66900.8070502@gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Great local coffee? thread-index: AcpgPxt8cnLGaVZPSiigYQZ/IMUGJwAACaGg References: <55AB77CB-37A8-4BF0-9BA3-A68CEFAF2F5E@cisco.com> <4AF66900.8070502@gmail.com> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Brian E Carpenter" , "Fred Baker" Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Great local coffee? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:49:07 -0000 =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:45 AM > To: Fred Baker > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] Great local coffee? >=20 > I had what I found an acceptable espresso at Caffe Veloce. > You turn right (north) instead of crossing to Starbucks, and=20 > walk a block or so. >=20 > Not sure if they can do strange things like latte or=20 > cappuccino, though. And not one word of English did they speak. >=20 > Brian >=20 So I guess espresso in Japanese is spelled not to differently than 'espresso' :-)=20 Dan From roehricht@tm.uka.de Sat Nov 7 22:49:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934D428C107 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:49:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.949 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.949 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iyzsqvqy+FDm for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:49:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de (iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de [141.3.10.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1E43A6837 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:49:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-32-52.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.32.52]) by iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de with esmtpsa port 25 id 1N71al-0006wy-3A; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:49:44 +0100 Message-ID: <4AF669FD.4020701@tm.uka.de> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:49:33 +0900 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Martin_R=F6hricht?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cullen Jennings References: <55AB77CB-37A8-4BF0-9BA3-A68CEFAF2F5E@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <55AB77CB-37A8-4BF0-9BA3-A68CEFAF2F5E@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-ATIS-AV: ClamAV (iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de) X-ATIS-AV: Kaspersky (iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de) X-ATIS-Timestamp: iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de esmtpsa 1257662984.307019000 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Great local coffee? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:49:21 -0000 On 08.11.2009 13:06 Cullen Jennings wrote: > Anyone found a good place? > > I like the name of "Juniper Coffee" During my first days I used to go to a coffee store (I think its name is »Kohikan«) which is directly accessible via the Mitsui Garden Hotel's lobby---which is therefore not too far from the ANA, luckily. I can highly recommend their Cappucino. :-) Martin From ole@cisco.com Sat Nov 7 22:56:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF703A690B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:56:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.437 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.437 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.138, BAYES_00=-2.599, MANGLED_RATES=2.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r+P9TpVIdgxs for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:56:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662673A688C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:56:11 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,702,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="427404529" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2009 06:56:36 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA86uaf8027641; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:56:36 GMT Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:55:57 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Brian E Carpenter In-Reply-To: <4AF66900.8070502@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <55AB77CB-37A8-4BF0-9BA3-A68CEFAF2F5E@cisco.com> <4AF66900.8070502@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Great local coffee? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:56:12 -0000 Brian, I am sure they can do all that stuff. Try saying "Ra-Te" or "Ka-Pu-Shi-No" and so on. I am sure you'll get what you want. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > I had what I found an acceptable espresso at Caffe Veloce. > You turn right (north) instead of crossing to Starbucks, > and walk a block or so. > > Not sure if they can do strange things like latte or > cappuccino, though. And not one word of English did they > speak. > > Brian > > On 2009-11-08 17:13, Fred Baker wrote: > > Your call on whether this is "great local coffee", but there is a > > Starbucks at the corner to the right from the ANA. Cross the street > > headed west and proceed up to the second floor. > > > > That said, the words "Japanese", "local", and "coffee" probably don't > > belong in the same sentence... > > > > On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Cullen Jennings wrote: > > > >> > >> Anyone found a good place? > >> > >> I like the name of "Juniper Coffee" > >> > >> http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&q=map%20of%20hiroshima%2C%20coffee&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 76attendees mailing list > >> 76attendees@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From ole@cisco.com Sat Nov 7 22:57:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537C13A67A4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:57:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.569 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.569 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.030, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LvlA0b9znoKB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:57:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF353A6837 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:57:56 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,702,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="267845977" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2009 06:58:21 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA86wLRh017305; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:58:21 GMT Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:57:42 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <55AB77CB-37A8-4BF0-9BA3-A68CEFAF2F5E@cisco.com> <4AF66900.8070502@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Great local coffee? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:57:57 -0000 The problem is that "spelled" in this case means in katakana. There are only (about) 50 katakana characters to learn. Believe me, once you master that, life in Japan becomes MUCH easier. Oh Ri Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com Sat Nov 7 22:58:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB3428C11E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:58:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.297 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.297 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.302, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WwKekvuyIDMb for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:58:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FD33A688C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:58:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by pwj20 with SMTP id 20so935952pwj.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:58:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jWcX9fddlX5B7kHoUAfW1G0l+RSrCR9/yGuxD1cnpcM=; b=YOtzKL41Ffx4y+ptLQj8Ft1uFzDJNbIi04a3jRu8r1+LKTC1cYOj9jUtYkLSY1rWwu qP6kUYNMULg9u5fO0k5aYmKY+gEfdar8g2FyJMKs9De4puARk72UWyFE/7RANkTnIe6v HTaeEONmYNnGHQmx4cT1iW4xwOifUz/MIEuCw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=L5Dd84ujenPLSYFSrpRQ2Iud19WUuSPBsaBHUJPeQ92xNPpWjWRaC5i+qit8Ub7R/3 MRAoNWZaWvN42DQBaUg/gR4BLDKj/+biLZYrCXmirRrUBy0eTlG2pCyZFjdpDE/iMpgZ o+/pjQpsIQ5mvC6c3MQ1Uqfwr16VaNggHFypY= Received: by 10.115.101.1 with SMTP id d1mr10680091wam.40.1257663510232; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:58:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?133.93.128.64? (host-128-64.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.128.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm1160407pxi.0.2009.11.07.22.58.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:58:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF66C12.6020409@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:58:26 +1300 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" References: <55AB77CB-37A8-4BF0-9BA3-A68CEFAF2F5E@cisco.com> <4AF66900.8070502@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Great local coffee? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:58:08 -0000 On 2009-11-08 19:49, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org >> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter >> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:45 AM >> To: Fred Baker >> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Great local coffee? >> >> I had what I found an acceptable espresso at Caffe Veloce. >> You turn right (north) instead of crossing to Starbucks, and >> walk a block or so. >> >> Not sure if they can do strange things like latte or >> cappuccino, though. And not one word of English did they speak. >> >> Brian >> > > So I guess espresso in Japanese is spelled not to differently than > 'espresso' :-) They had a price list in English and it seems that the Japanese for espresso is pronounced 'espresso'. From mary.h.barnes@gmail.com Sat Nov 7 23:00:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D6E28C103 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:00:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.524 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.074, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N9K0rDmiZ+QO for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f202.google.com (mail-iw0-f202.google.com [209.85.223.202]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25E528C104 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:00:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by iwn40 with SMTP id 40so1814488iwn.32 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:00:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HZy0s4B3LqjCyevQq5jmrKNP+eeY4iN6sBPHV7/ZMPA=; b=g9mwnwormlx5kmiSFR99NLamULR0s9dgvvFs6CpGVH+h9eOrfA6frStqhsTknRq7q4 DEBynvNNdA/79RMSGoxmKsxD2SPrm8nzo1BtjAVRTgCe/uKoN+fSW2jV6INEC7U6skZe 7rD6VFqfJi7fKzcLngMkWO5+W90zqyZsNP8wE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=X8ITkC/06m2v4TdyPHD2gtB9j49g5iiRVjhaDI2pQ6h8iCrHijFpGHTBuTj5hhcdCC oxt92AmSmICcISmIunIkULcJ1gvAu7ait90fmJL4eeA6r2iBl1UJs8sQuODVdWQnyIoK o8t41osCIuqvWa35ae3FfXD8FM8HeRpU6aUcY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.1.22 with SMTP id 22mr3825147ibd.56.1257663629813; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:00:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091108065444.438CF3A6804@core3.amsl.com> References: <20091108065444.438CF3A6804@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 01:00:29 -0600 Message-ID: <11e0ee130911072300p42c2058l98714bccf593a74b@mail.gmail.com> From: Mary Barnes To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151773eaa0e6e8ff0477d6a1b2 Subject: [76attendees] Nomcom 2009-2010: IETF-76 Office hours X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:00:10 -0000 --00151773eaa0e6e8ff0477d6a1b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi all, As you know, Nomcom is in the process of reviewing the nominees for the various open positions as summarized on the Nomcom wiki: https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/09/ We appreciate the feedback provided thus far. However, we need more community feedback including from current members of the various I* organizations. This community feedback is critical for this process to be effective. Feedback can be on specific individuals, specific positions, leadership in general, IETF operations or on other issues which you believe the nomcom should consider in their deliberations. Please keep in mind that due to the confidentiality of the Nomcom process, the nomcom members are very limited in the information that they may share with the community. If you would like to schedule an appointment, please let me know or send a request to nomcom09@ietf.org. Alternatively, please find one of the Nomcom members (wearing an orange dot) at the meeting and share your thoughts or drop by the Nomcom office - Orion room on the 7th floor. We will be available in the Nomcom room - Orion on the 7th floor - as follows (M-Fri): Mon 11/09/09: 15:20-17:20 Tues 11/10/09: 11:40-12:50 Wed 11/11/09: 9:00 - 11:30, 13:00-15:00 Thurs 11/12/09: 8:00-9:00 Fri 11/13/09: 9:00-9:50, 10:40-12:50 Of course, anyone is welcome to send input and feedback to the Nomcom (nomcom09@ietf.org) or directly to myself or any nomcom voting member as identified in the Nomcom wiki. Regards, Mary H. Barnes mary.barnes@nortel.com nomcom-chair@ietf.org mary.h.barnes@gmail.com _______________________________________________ --00151773eaa0e6e8ff0477d6a1b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,

As you know, =A0Nomcom is in the process of reviewing the nominees for the<= br> various open positions as summarized on the Nomcom wiki:
= https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/09/

We appreciate the feedback provided thus far. However, we need more
community feedback including from current members of the various I*
organizations. =A0This community feedback is critical for this process to b= e
effective. =A0 Feedback can be on specific individuals, specific positions,=
leadership in general, IETF operations or on other issues which you
believe the nomcom should consider in their deliberations. =A0Please keep i= n
mind that due to the confidentiality of the Nomcom process, the nomcom
members are very limited in the information that they may share with the community.

If you would like to schedule an appointment, please let me know or send a request to nomcom09@ietf.org. Al= ternatively, please find one of the
Nomcom members (wearing an orange dot) at the meeting and share your
thoughts or drop by the Nomcom office - Orion room on the 7th floor.

We will be available in the Nomcom room - Orion on the 7th floor - as
follows (M-Fri):
Mon 11/09/09: =A0 15:20-17:20
Tues 11/10/09: =A011:40-12:50
Wed 11/11/09: =A0 9:00 - 11:30, =A013:00-15:00
Thurs 11/12/09: =A08:00-9:00
Fri 11/13/09: =A09:00-9:50, 10:40-12:50

Of course, anyone is welcome to send input and feedback to the Nomcom
(nomcom09@ietf.org) or directly to= myself or any nomcom voting member as
identified in the Nomcom wiki.

Regards,
Mary H. Barnes
mary.barn= es@nortel.com
nomcom-chair@ietf.org
mary.h.barnes@gmail.com
_______________________________________________
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Upgrade to Eudora: Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:15:35 -0800 To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Subject: [76attendees] Non-Smoking Restaurants X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:18:17 -0000 I did a little searching for restaurants that are either all non-smoking or have a non-smoking room (not just an area within a room). - The hotel tells me that two of the ANA Crowne Plaza restaurants are non-smoking. - From a search of the gethiroshima.com web site, using , a few places look interesting: ** Italian restaurant with locally grown food, all non-smoking: ** Indian restaurant (cash only, no credit cards): ** Small cafe with French-inspired menu tailored to Japanese tastes, all non-smoking: ** Tea shop with light meals, all non-smoking: ** Bakery and restaurant with extensive menu, all non-smoking: ** Organic buffet restaurant: ** Burger joint, all non-smoking, fish and veggie burgers available: -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Things are more like they used to be than they are new. From falk@bbn.com Sat Nov 7 23:21:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3069E3A690B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:21:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.317 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.317 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.282, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HY7TMJOtVgsU for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:21:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.bbn.com (smtp.bbn.com [128.33.1.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861133A6873 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:21:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.89.252.65] (helo=host-24-83.meeting.ietf.org) by smtp.bbn.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N726H-0000pE-9h for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:22:13 -0500 Message-ID: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:22:11 +0900 From: Aaron Falk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] RFID experiment web site login problems? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:21:49 -0000 Is anybody else having success logging into the opt-in/out site for the RFID experiment? I'm finding my password is being rejected and can't find a support email address, etc. --aaron From scott.brim@gmail.com Sat Nov 7 23:25:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E59C3A67A4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:25:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.492 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.492 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.107, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LA2OHLoKWGkE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:25:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEBE3A6811 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:25:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by pwj20 with SMTP id 20so941238pwj.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:25:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=km+Oi4FNp0mFbrBun/3X9+mUFjrt9pJDc7gMvarJwTU=; b=eZUVeX2vEvZWf2+U7I5k2OTEUNB/33gvElvgXeHKBcn5VKHgQMsi9vqVsTtUYgL8bJ aNMQ/s5dK1A2LCHRElGy6mGQLpmzPwlQOkcY9JrJEIob67KjC8w1/KEjy7HJutBomMzJ fg4ojIJdKHLfD+0XwDI0MMNrvLO3F01tsqO1U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=xl4rqKTi0jIPX6aWvV4WKbPjHfVRtAP/pYHLY/WwENwGSnqVqcVXfBICAcqv5GYf0Q 47N8OmMgXMlLe1oOq2X7BjWnSJK/oUMl7Bls/YCduFX3dkpbM3drcrisNYy0sjFuY4mE S7hvj1eVUQ80za/ISwvpnRm/Ft7faWmnr2R+I= Received: by 10.115.61.10 with SMTP id o10mr10684037wak.37.1257665142482; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:25:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-24-56.meeting.ietf.org (64-104-46-217.cisco.com [64.104.46.217]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm1097417pzk.14.2009.11.07.23.25.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:25:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF67272.7010504@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:25:38 +0900 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Falk References: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment web site login problems? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:25:20 -0000 Aaron Falk allegedly wrote on 11/08/2009 4:22 PM: > Is anybody else having success logging into the opt-in/out site for the > RFID experiment? I'm finding my password is being rejected and can't > find a support email address, etc. If you face the registration desk, go around it to the right and you will see an RFID help desk (before you turn toward the rest rooms). I couldn't log in. I went there, and still couldn't log in. When someone else typed my userid and password it worked. From john-ietf@jck.com Sat Nov 7 23:25:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF8B3A694A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:25:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.413 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.413 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.186, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vEhh6w20XK0y for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:25:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from bs.jck.com (ns.jck.com [209.187.148.211]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54583A67A4 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by bs.jck.com with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1N72A0-0007b1-0S; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:26:04 -0500 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:26:03 -0500 From: John C Klensin To: Aaron Falk , 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> References: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment web site login problems? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:25:40 -0000 --On Sunday, 08 November, 2009 16:22 +0900 Aaron Falk wrote: > Is anybody else having success logging into the opt-in/out > site for the RFID experiment? I'm finding my password is > being rejected and can't find a support email address, etc. I had the same problem earlier today and put the whole business aside. So, no success here either. john From brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com Sat Nov 7 23:26:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36DFB3A695C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:26:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.33 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.33 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.269, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2gUN4YxpkEs5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:26:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pz0-f204.google.com (mail-pz0-f204.google.com [209.85.222.204]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886903A694A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:26:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by pzk42 with SMTP id 42so1780487pzk.31 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:26:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OGDwmDnlBPHaUD7U4E2YsMbneiFcM8HsjjbFm45WQIs=; b=qfCBIOHWVKgbX1r1cT2OkHCkuCwfQ3dmLDGV2K5kjbrkJ/EQnoQX0k8tAAcsoYMEX3 Ze0ME87aoCmz53Ecstpe9mxZIeEnI+KD8XXdL/9gvAkhtMXVP54lIFj1sc74gfbjG+5w 4ZjG1CL4jJKaDulQLC1oFCy+TGS0X8g4nAn8Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Tt7u+stAWqt3Xv+A0w3VqfefRwQ7zuopKs64S7s3oIbNJLhG5urKCs6eUBZJ5KaUI3 PLUiDwCGrkx1Fb4VH1hrz92pMJwkeQM5MKjl418W/kX3FMs88MURo4bMWvnVid9wfOZ+ DKMxs8dhmkzP8kt1hhqy/Tao0DZzuzDBqE/i0= Received: by 10.115.117.4 with SMTP id u4mr10724669wam.43.1257665192202; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:26:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?133.93.128.64? (host-128-64.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.128.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm1198005pxi.4.2009.11.07.23.26.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:26:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF672A4.4050205@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:26:28 +1300 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Falk References: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment web site login problems? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:26:15 -0000 Make sure you use httpS. I didn't, and it took me a while to figure that out. On 2009-11-08 20:22, Aaron Falk wrote: > Is anybody else having success logging into the opt-in/out site for the > RFID experiment? I'm finding my password is being rejected and can't > find a support email address, etc. > > --aaron > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From falk@bbn.com Sat Nov 7 23:26:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D993A69F7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:26:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.34 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.34 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.259, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VOATa41bc3kP for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:26:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.bbn.com (smtp.bbn.com [128.33.1.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE333A69FD for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:26:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.89.252.65] (helo=host-24-83.meeting.ietf.org) by smtp.bbn.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N72Ad-0000qC-CE; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:26:44 -0500 Message-ID: <4AF672B2.2050702@bbn.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:26:42 +0900 From: Aaron Falk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Brim References: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> <4AF67272.7010504@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF67272.7010504@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment web site login problems? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:26:20 -0000 Scott Brim wrote: > Aaron Falk allegedly wrote on 11/08/2009 4:22 PM: > >> Is anybody else having success logging into the opt-in/out site for the >> RFID experiment? I'm finding my password is being rejected and can't >> find a support email address, etc. >> > > If you face the registration desk, go around it to the right and you > will see an RFID help desk (before you turn toward the rest rooms). > > I couldn't log in. I went there, and still couldn't log in. When > someone else typed my userid and password it worked. > > Ooh. Magic! Thanks for the advice. ---aaron From osamu@wide.ad.jp Sat Nov 7 23:30:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB5A3A6945 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:30:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.104 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.104 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PmfZv4+4bwTd for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CD53A67AA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::16:224:36ff:feed:1303] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:224:36ff:feed:1303]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A3B24C0BF; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:30:57 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-116-185382553; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQ2ZCPBsoQiAbJEI9JBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <4AF672A4.4050205@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:30:56 +0900 Message-Id: <2078B198-8942-467E-ADCE-8F45809FD048@wide.ad.jp> References: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> <4AF672A4.4050205@gmail.com> To: Brian E Carpenter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment web site login problems? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:30:37 -0000 --Apple-Mail-116-185382553 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes now http port forwards https port. osamu On 2009/11/08, at 16:26, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Make sure you use httpS. I didn't, and it took me a while > to figure that out. > > On 2009-11-08 20:22, Aaron Falk wrote: >> Is anybody else having success logging into the opt-in/out site for >> the >> RFID experiment? I'm finding my password is being rejected and can't >> find a support email address, etc. >> >> --aaron >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > --Apple-Mail-116-185382553 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIKazCCBFww ggJEoAMCAQICAh2LMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMEUxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkpQMRUwEwYDVQQKEwxXSURF IFByb2plY3QxHzAdBgNVBAMTFm1lbWJlcnMgb3JpZW50ZWQgQ0EgMDIwHhcNMDkwNjA4MDQ1MjA0 WhcNMTEwNjMwMjM1OTU5WjBjMQswCQYDVQQGEwJKUDEVMBMGA1UEChMMV0lERSBQcm9qZWN0MRww GgYDVQQDExMwMDEzIE9zYW11IE5ha2FtdXJhMR8wHQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhBvc2FtdUB3aWRlLmFk 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[76attendees] RFID experiment web site login problems? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:36:20 -0000 I also took a couple of minutes for succesful login, because I couldn't distinguish capital I and small l, and tried with small l for a while. -- Yoshiro YONEYA On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:22:11 +0900 Aaron Falk wrote: > Is anybody else having success logging into the opt-in/out site for the > RFID experiment? I'm finding my password is being rejected and can't > find a support email address, etc. > > --aaron > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From gg55go@gmail.com Sun Nov 8 01:43:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C4F3A6971 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 01:43:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id etl7X0HjN-+F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 01:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745E73A687F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 01:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by pwj20 with SMTP id 20so968003pwj.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:43:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x45/kLKPFGOSXBjfXkkrL8tN+qgp+rLmxTUqqTOWEFE=; b=FPJ/JerQ7MtlIPsnAOyEV6iVaNFyej+flbBfWy5+XN0hZVgbm07s1PrPrSFOOsL7mL +PHH7GRN/4Ab/B9FbmjjQa2Dhtd6dsReY3+x63QGVXeRkuPcFDa5g/euQpH90baphtVr g517ye5hm6QmpR9t3mUoKWExoUfN2sMa7hb0w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tEFDIiO8CYiSLDCiPSipbh+B4/LcmZsIUs5tX3YIqLt6PHkDCvvEkZQlj2v/z9KZrW GJydaKbFdY0EjwWL74mBJKuuGDZfaixxbXysdAgFeDrhqly92nSUkTvK8pO85xmHt9Kf 017QtzUUY57xtg5d5rlfsvkuKBOm/Bp2YgU+w= Received: by 10.115.133.38 with SMTP id k38mr10881562wan.120.1257673421929; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:43:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?133.93.18.33? (host-18-33.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.18.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm1310690pxi.9.2009.11.08.01.43.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:43:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF692CE.30809@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:43:42 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Taveira_Ara=FAjo?= References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> <4AF653C9.9050001@gmail.com> <4AF68E5E.9060103@ee.ucl.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <4AF68E5E.9060103@ee.ucl.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal / Soccer / Futbal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:30-21:00 changed! X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:43:20 -0000 Hi Joao Yes, all stuff are avairable to rent. such as shoes, shirt pants, don't warry about it. But 19:30 is a litte bit late to get toghther. So if you come to ANA lobby unitl 19:10, I can go there with you, I you arrive late, please print up my home made site. http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ and the map to show it to a taxi driver. http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ietf/map_futsal.jpg That marked "FUTSAL" is the court to play. Or, I'm just at wellcom party in ANA hotel. Plese ask a parson who is side by spreading T-shirt on the ground until 19:00. Then at 19:10, I'll be at ANA lobby to get a taxi. GO From: João Taveira Araújo Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 18:24:46 GMT+0900 > I've just arrived but I'll give it a go. I'm assuming we can rent > trainers at the futsal place? If so, I'll be at ANA lobby at 19:30. > > Cheers. From kimoto@soum.co.jp Sun Nov 8 02:20:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2591B3A6857 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:20:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m+XFVVfCAaBM for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate.soum.co.jp (gate.soum.co.jp [IPv6:2001:240:10e:0:230:48ff:fe81:e40a]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061D93A6405 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.soum.co.jp (mail.soum.co.jp [IPv6:2001:240:c4:1:203:baff:fea1:6471]) by gate.soum.co.jp (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nA8AKM5Y075776 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:20:22 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from kimoto@soum.co.jp) Received: from localhost (luke.soum.co.jp [IPv6:2001:240:c4:1:203:baff:fe80:54a5]) by mail.soum.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA8AKLf7012438; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:20:21 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:20:20 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091108.192020.112811523.kimoto@soum.co.jp> To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Masahiko KIMOTO In-Reply-To: References: <55AB77CB-37A8-4BF0-9BA3-A68CEFAF2F5E@cisco.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.6/10000/Sun Nov 8 12:28:38 2009 on hoth.soum.co.jp X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (gate.soum.co.jp [IPv6:2001:240:c4:1:230:48ff:fe81:e40b]); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:20:22 +0900 (JST) Subject: Re: [76attendees] Great local coffee? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:20:01 -0000 > That said, the words "Japanese", "local", and "coffee" probably don't > belong in the same sentence... Probably Canned Coffee is Japanese local taste, I think. Especially MAX COFFEE is. # But I can't ensure these are "great". :-) ---- Masahiko KIMOTO, Ph.D. / SOUM Corporation. e-mail: kimoto@soum.co.jp phone:+81.3.5453.1251 From wjhns1@hardakers.net Sun Nov 8 02:29:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4493A69F6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:29:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iPahFdvUujAh for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:29:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.hardakers.net (hardaker-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::af]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3313A6857 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:29:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (host-194-198.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.194.198]) by mail.hardakers.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BE3D098119; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:29:31 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Hardaker To: Brian E Carpenter Organization: Sparta References: <55AB77CB-37A8-4BF0-9BA3-A68CEFAF2F5E@cisco.com> <4AF66900.8070502@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:29:28 -0800 In-Reply-To: <4AF66900.8070502@gmail.com> (Brian E. Carpenter's message of "Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:45:20 +1300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) XEmacs/21.4.22 (linux, no MULE) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Great local coffee? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:29:14 -0000 >>>>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:45:20 +1300, Brian E Carpenter said: BEC> I had what I found an acceptable espresso at Caffe Veloce. I'll second that recommendation. I had a very good latte there today (which had less milk in it than many American cappuccinos; I actually wanted a cappuccino not a latte, so I was pleased. Unlike when I order a cappuccino in the US and frequently get a latte). I'm glad to hear the espresso was good. I frequently order cappuccinos only because I'm unsure of the espresso quality! -- Wes Hardaker Cobham Analytic Solutions From leifj@sunet.se Sun Nov 8 03:36:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B777E28C0EB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 03:36:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P9POI5v9YBaH for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 03:36:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.su.se (smtp3.su.se [130.237.93.228]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB0C28C0DF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 03:36:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.su.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1AA3BF07 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:36:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.su.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp3.su.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04066-01-26 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:36:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (pppoe212.45.west.osaka.dcn.ne.jp [219.105.45.212]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.su.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F413BEF1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:36:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AF6AD3E.3020703@sunet.se> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:36:30 +0100 From: Leif Johansson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at smtp.su.se Subject: [76attendees] pre-paid cell-phone tips? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:36:15 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Any ideas on how to get a pre-paid or rental phone I can use for at least SMS that won't also leave me in debt for the rest of my life :) Cheers Leif -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkr2rTkACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZndZVACfRh3caXC5mKw4S5HA06QNGi6S htsAoMj7DCSEn0KSJUeqH1p41csPS0Lk =KvNi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ole@cisco.com Sun Nov 8 04:23:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E6828C12A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:23:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.57 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.57 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.029, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8Vfz6SyjbFMJ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:23:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com (rtp-iport-2.cisco.com [64.102.122.149]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39EB28C10E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:23:46 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: rtp-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkcGADhH9kqtJV2Z/2dsb2JhbACCfb8lgRwIAYgECY0zglSBagSBaA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,703,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="66960895" Received: from rcdn-core-2.cisco.com ([173.37.93.153]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2009 12:24:11 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by rcdn-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA8COALu001401; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:24:11 GMT Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:23:31 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Leif Johansson In-Reply-To: <4AF6AD3E.3020703@sunet.se> Message-ID: References: <4AF6AD3E.3020703@sunet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] pre-paid cell-phone tips? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:23:48 -0000 Well, you should have read my webpages ;-) [hiroshima-info.info] This is typcially something you do at the AIRPORT, but I would ask the hotel if they know of any local places that do it. Worst case you'll have to treck back out to the airport. http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/service/world/roaming/flow/map/hiroshima.html ...for example. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Leif Johansson wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Any ideas on how to get a pre-paid or rental phone I can use for > at least SMS that won't also leave me in debt for the rest of my > life :) > > Cheers Leif > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAkr2rTkACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZndZVACfRh3caXC5mKw4S5HA06QNGi6S > htsAoMj7DCSEn0KSJUeqH1p41csPS0Lk > =KvNi > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From bob.hinden@gmail.com Sun Nov 8 05:06:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0610B3A698D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:06:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JGZ22CA50aEe for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:06:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ew0-f207.google.com (mail-ew0-f207.google.com [209.85.219.207]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B433A6981 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:06:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so2357475ewy.37 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:07:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=hfstGBuCbp30kXkHfSosWjNneQMPnKB8mgz80qiHer8=; b=B2qc64z3glRpyPbLKeqSFjm5W52sr9bKSjYsRihZNtNh6O35tQ51dyZU8DL5tuvI3u 2rOWYqK1yomTfnd6QPbMYaaPizk5ILTot1SvMMMYKy/zdpqPzGPV38xII4Pb7V97mJeI P5SU2mmA1WnIJTjMEIjRJpszMR1RkqqBEQCfc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=nMNdJWiA2/oG7tkhdyTHvZ8wBg83mw5I87wGkBNNVlTYiGFXyc2tvY4QFS861sQlOG 8a0pggL63HjHrDkxfjMEzrhjFg+Wh6y2lA5QxVBRoMV46MccaFI1wsTXDsVE7jqVZrSM 8xUwYro+By/0YsS39uVwpbMb94aoQ9ULyvNnM= Received: by 10.213.3.140 with SMTP id 12mr1855800ebn.20.1257685630946; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:07:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-113-7.meeting.ietf.org (host-113-7.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.113.7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm3503554eyb.24.2009.11.08.05.07.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:07:10 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: <4AF6AD3E.3020703@sunet.se> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:07:03 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9DEBBAD3-C7C1-4E7F-B7A4-B733DCCBBEB5@gmail.com> References: <4AF6AD3E.3020703@sunet.se> To: Leif Johansson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] pre-paid cell-phone tips? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:06:47 -0000 > > Any ideas on how to get a pre-paid or rental phone I can use for > at least SMS that won't also leave me in debt for the rest of my > life :) > My wife rented a phone from Soft Bank. The hotel directed her there. It was on the main shopping street. I think it was about 500 yen a day plus calls. Bob From falk@bbn.com Sun Nov 8 05:40:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32383A699D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:40:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.36 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.36 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.239, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UA1z4VAq5UVj for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.bbn.com (smtp.bbn.com [128.33.1.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E473A6997 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.89.252.21] (helo=host-113-9.meeting.ietf.org) by smtp.bbn.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N780m-00073E-Cc; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:40:57 -0500 Message-ID: <4AF6CA67.1000103@bbn.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:40:55 +0900 From: Aaron Falk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yoshiro YONEYA References: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> <20091108163632.f2d8862b.yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <20091108163632.f2d8862b.yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment web site login problems? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:40:34 -0000 Yes, that was exactly my problem too. --aaron Yoshiro YONEYA wrote: > I also took a couple of minutes for succesful login, because I couldn't > distinguish capital I and small l, and tried with small l for a while. > > From dworley@nortel.com Sun Nov 8 05:42:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6358F3A69A1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:42:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j64x9DbXvmc6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:42:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from zcars04e.nortel.com (zcars04e.nortel.com [47.129.242.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574EB3A699D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:42:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com (casmtp.ca.nortel.com [47.140.202.46]) by zcars04e.nortel.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id nA8Dgu807955; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:42:56 GMT Received: from [47.141.31.142] ([47.141.31.142]) by zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:42:55 -0500 From: "Dale Worley" To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E4=B8=AD=E6=9D=91_=E4=BF=AE?= In-Reply-To: <2078B198-8942-467E-ADCE-8F45809FD048@wide.ad.jp> References: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> <4AF672A4.4050205@gmail.com> <2078B198-8942-467E-ADCE-8F45809FD048@wide.ad.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Organization: Nortel Networks Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:42:53 -0500 Message-Id: <1257687773.3979.10.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-5.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2009 13:42:56.0457 (UTC) FILETIME=[60C8EB90:01CA6079] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment web site login problems? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:42:45 -0000 On Sun, 2009-11-08 at 16:30 +0900, =E4=B8=AD=E6=9D=91 =E4=BF=AE wrote: > now http port forwards https port. I was not careful and used the http: URL, but the forwarding worked perfectly and I was able to log in. Dale From osamu@wide.ad.jp Sun Nov 8 05:52:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E603A6997 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:52:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.104 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.104 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pCWrstBtrWS4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:52:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D1D3A680C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:52:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::16:224:36ff:feed:1303] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:224:36ff:feed:1303]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 149514C067; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:52:32 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-208277624; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQ2ZCPBsoQiAbJEI9JBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <4AF6CA67.1000103@bbn.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:52:31 +0900 Message-Id: <68E6221B-B2BD-4C9C-9B84-F7AAE9206A4E@wide.ad.jp> References: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> <20091108163632.f2d8862b.yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp> <4AF6CA67.1000103@bbn.com> To: Aaron Falk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment web site login problems? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:52:12 -0000 --Apple-Mail-5-208277624 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Sorry for confusing. Initial password only use 'I' uppercase "i". and it dose "not" use lowercase L and numeric 1. osamu On 2009/11/08, at 22:40, Aaron Falk wrote: > Yes, that was exactly my problem too. > > --aaron > > Yoshiro YONEYA wrote: >> I also took a couple of minutes for succesful login, because I >> couldn't >> distinguish capital I and small l, and tried with small l for a >> while. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > --Apple-Mail-5-208277624 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIKazCCBFww ggJEoAMCAQICAh2LMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMEUxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkpQMRUwEwYDVQQKEwxXSURF IFByb2plY3QxHzAdBgNVBAMTFm1lbWJlcnMgb3JpZW50ZWQgQ0EgMDIwHhcNMDkwNjA4MDQ1MjA0 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[47.140.192.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44753A67B2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:10:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com (zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com [47.140.202.46]) by zrtps0kp.nortel.com (Switch-2.2.6/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id nA8EAir25257; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:10:44 GMT Received: from [47.141.31.142] ([47.141.31.142]) by zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:10:29 -0500 From: "Dale Worley" To: Samuel Weiler In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Nortel Networks Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:10:26 -0500 Message-Id: <1257689426.3979.19.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-5.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2009 14:10:29.0921 (UTC) FILETIME=[3A538110:01CA607D] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Warnings re: Oriental Hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:10:26 -0000 On Fri, 2009-11-06 at 16:04 -0500, Samuel Weiler wrote: > The Oriental Hotel has turned off their air conditioning for the > winter. I'm finding my room too warm for comfortable sleeping. > > Also, the in-room net is wired instead of wireless. And it's NAT'ed. > > Anyone else found a hotel that you like and that still has > availability? I am in the Oriental, and as of 24:00 Saturday JST, the air conditioning was working. It also looks like I've got a real IP address, no NAT. Dale From hhelvoort@huawei.com Sun Nov 8 06:15:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9A53A69A8 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:15:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.107 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.107 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1GyPZ1NAmkrl for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:15:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from szxga03-in.huawei.com (szxga03-in.huawei.com [119.145.14.66]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A9D3A6954 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:15:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (szxga03-in [172.24.2.9]) by szxga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KSS00IVPNMHC9@szxga03-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:15:54 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.1.3]) by szxga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KSS00HAINMH8G@szxga03-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:15:53 +0800 (CST) Received: from host-160-44.meeting.ietf.org (host-160-44.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.160.44]) by szxml01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KSS00IW9NMH0J@szxml01-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:15:53 +0800 (CST) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:15:48 +0100 From: Huub van Helvoort In-reply-to: <68E6221B-B2BD-4C9C-9B84-F7AAE9206A4E@wide.ad.jp> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-id: <4AF6D294.1040806@huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) References: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> <20091108163632.f2d8862b.yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp> <4AF6CA67.1000103@bbn.com> <68E6221B-B2BD-4C9C-9B84-F7AAE9206A4E@wide.ad.jp> Subject: [76attendees] RFID experiment web site X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: hhelvoort@huawei.com List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:15:31 -0000 How can I insert Japanese/Chinese characters in my name? If I do it like this: Huub (高明) and click on save the characters are replaced by other unreadable characters. BR. Huub. -- ================================================================ Always remember that you are unique...just like everyone else... From ole@cisco.com Sun Nov 8 06:20:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085353A682F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:20:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.57 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.57 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.029, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LV8TO8BlWvtz for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:20:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CD23A67B3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:20:25 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAF9i9kqrR7H+/2dsb2JhbADCI4EcCAGVNYQ+BIFo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,704,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="427559775" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2009 14:20:50 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA8EKobg016227; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:20:50 GMT Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:20:11 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Dale Worley In-Reply-To: <1257689426.3979.19.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> Message-ID: References: <1257689426.3979.19.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Warnings re: Oriental Hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:20:26 -0000 On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Dale Worley wrote: > > It also looks like I've got a real IP address, no NAT. > > Dale > Oops, sorry, we'll call over make sure you get a real NAT address instead. NATs are good you know, they will save us from v4 exhaustion and IPv6 ;-) Seriously, I've heard lots of comments about how well the network works here. Make sure you thank the WIDE folks, basically anyone with those orange vests who all pulled off a small miracle converting the ANA from a wedding party to geek heaven in a manner of a few hours. If they look a little sleepy it's because they are! 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(192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm1328711pzk.7.2009.11.08.06.21.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:21:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF6D401.6020501@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:21:53 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nakamura-san References: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> <20091108163632.f2d8862b.yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp> <4AF6CA67.1000103@bbn.com> <68E6221B-B2BD-4C9C-9B84-F7AAE9206A4E@wide.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: <68E6221B-B2BD-4C9C-9B84-F7AAE9206A4E@wide.ad.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment web site login problems? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:21:32 -0000 Me too I got the same problem. It seemed "l" for me in my account. But it was "I". I was really surprised at the fact. I made a mistake like my father who is unfamiliar with a computer. But the receptionist looked at and treated me like him, event though we are real professional computer engineers! I think they should have considered the font to print out. Go From: Nakamura-san Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 22:52:31 GMT+0900 > > Sorry for confusing. > Initial password only use 'I' uppercase "i". > and it dose "not" use lowercase L and numeric 1. > > osamu > > On 2009/11/08, at 22:40, Aaron Falk wrote: > >> Yes, that was exactly my problem too. >> >> --aaron >> >> Yoshiro YONEYA wrote: >>> I also took a couple of minutes for succesful login, because I couldn't >>> distinguish capital I and small l, and tried with small l for a while. From ole@cisco.com Sun Nov 8 06:22:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EDD13A6925 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:22:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.571 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.571 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.028, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tCJ7gLg3T3Y9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com (sj-iport-2.cisco.com [171.71.176.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488913A6859 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:22:43 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAE9j9kqrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbADCLYEcCAGIBAmNJ4JUgWoE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,704,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="222227417" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2009 14:23:08 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA8EN8jx028603; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:23:08 GMT Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:22:29 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Huub van Helvoort In-Reply-To: <4AF6D294.1040806@huawei.com> Message-ID: References: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> <20091108163632.f2d8862b.yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp> <4AF6CA67.1000103@bbn.com> <68E6221B-B2BD-4C9C-9B84-F7AAE9206A4E@wide.ad.jp> <4AF6D294.1040806@huawei.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment web site X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:22:44 -0000 Yeah, I tried that too, looks like the site does not support Unicode or at least not two-byte characters. Just as Osamu thought he'd get a nap ;-) Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Huub van Helvoort wrote: > How can I insert Japanese/Chinese characters in my name? > > If I do it like this: Huub () and click on save the > characters are replaced by other unreadable characters. > > BR. Huub. > > -- > ================================================================ > Always remember that you are unique...just like everyone else... > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > From jaapna@xs4all.nl Sun Nov 8 06:33:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC223A6859 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:33:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.504 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.504 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BqwPt9wh0SC0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:33:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.28]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1493A677D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:33:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-193-222.meeting.ietf.org (host-193-222.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.193.222]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA8EXp0u077950 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:33:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jaapna@xs4all.nl) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Jaap Akkerhuis In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:33:49 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5F8DB291-9DFE-464D-96DB-9996D4E531B8@xs4all.nl> References: <1257689426.3979.19.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> To: Ole Jacobsen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Warnings re: Oriental Hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:33:34 -0000 > ... who all pulled off a small miracle converting > the ANA from a wedding party to geek heaven in a manner of a few > hours. If they look a little sleepy it's because they are! They did the same in the Righa Royal (another WPP). I'm (now) an happy camper here. This is the first time I see the IETF-noc take over the networks in a (the?) overflow hotels as well. jaap (*) Wedding Party Provider From osamu@wide.ad.jp Sun Nov 8 06:35:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CC03A69A8 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:35:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.104 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.104 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7p72ftchL1gA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:35:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4753A677D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:35:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::16:224:36ff:feed:1303] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:224:36ff:feed:1303]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3F9134C0BA; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:35:55 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-210880489; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQ2ZCPBsoQiAbJEI9JBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <4AF6D401.6020501@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:35:54 +0900 Message-Id: <9088C3BB-F070-4EC5-A81C-287FD4DC4767@wide.ad.jp> References: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> <20091108163632.f2d8862b.yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp> <4AF6CA67.1000103@bbn.com> <68E6221B-B2BD-4C9C-9B84-F7AAE9206A4E@wide.ad.jp> <4AF6D401.6020501@gmail.com> To: Go Kawaguchi X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment web site login problems? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:35:34 -0000 --Apple-Mail-6-210880489 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes I'm sorry for confusing you. osamu On 2009/11/08, at 23:21, Go Kawaguchi wrote: > Me too > > I got the same problem. > It seemed "l" for me in my account. But it was "I". I was really > surprised at the fact. > I made a mistake like my father who is unfamiliar with a computer. > But the receptionist looked at and treated me like him, event though > we are real professional computer engineers! > > I think they should have considered the font to print out. > > Go > > From: Nakamura-san > Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 22:52:31 GMT+0900 > >> Sorry for confusing. >> Initial password only use 'I' uppercase "i". >> and it dose "not" use lowercase L and numeric 1. >> osamu >> On 2009/11/08, at 22:40, Aaron Falk wrote: >>> Yes, that was exactly my problem too. >>> >>> --aaron >>> >>> Yoshiro YONEYA wrote: >>>> I also took a couple of minutes for succesful login, because I >>>> couldn't >>>> distinguish capital I and small l, and tried with small l for a >>>> while. > --Apple-Mail-6-210880489 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 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(core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1o53D0PmOTNI for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:38:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from usaga01-in.huawei.com (usaga01-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.211]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A6928C15A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:38:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (usaga01-in [172.18.4.6]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KSS00I5HOP3NC@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:39:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from Z73500b (host-113-2.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.113.2]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KSS00KH3OP1G8@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:39:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:38:58 -0600 From: Yi Zhao In-reply-to: To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QQzpQUXWKTKcQHHrzTdnJg)" Thread-index: Acpgfz+exwrxhLoTQV6OWD5UjleimQAAeXbg References: Subject: [76attendees] okonomiyaki X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:38:41 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_QQzpQUXWKTKcQHHrzTdnJg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Although there is a Friendly Warning on IETF76 website that "all IETF hotels and the ANA venue will smell distinctly like okonomiyaki from Tuesday onward", actually I can smell it now on Sunday night from my ANA hotel room (not sure about the other rooms or lobby area). I guess this must be the Okonomiyaki smell even though I haven't had it yet. Looks like I need to go and try it tomorrow. Yi --Boundary_(ID_QQzpQUXWKTKcQHHrzTdnJg) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Although there is a = Friendly Warning on IETF76 website that “all IETF hotels and the ANA venue will = smell distinctly like okonomiyaki from Tuesday onward”, actually I can = smell it now on Sunday night from my ANA hotel room (not sure about the other = rooms or lobby area). I guess this must be the Okonomiyaki smell even though I haven’t had it yet. Looks like I need to go and try it = tomorrow.

 

Yi

 

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(192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm1338010pzk.2.2009.11.08.06.49.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:49:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF6DA8A.1020407@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:49:46 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ole Jacobsen References: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> <20091108163632.f2d8862b.yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp> <4AF6CA67.1000103@bbn.com> <68E6221B-B2BD-4C9C-9B84-F7AAE9206A4E@wide.ad.jp> <4AF6D294.1040806@huawei.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment web site X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:49:18 -0000 Hi Huub and Ole you guys mean, like From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQG44fTlkGyhC?= using MIME encoding of RFC 2231 at "5. Language specification in Encoded Words" ? It's my Chinese characters' one. GO From: Ole Jacobsen Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 23:22:29 GMT+0900 > Yeah, I tried that too, looks like the site does not support Unicode > or at least not two-byte characters. > > Just as Osamu thought he'd get a nap ;-) > > Ole From osamu@wide.ad.jp Sun Nov 8 07:13:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4756C3A69C6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:13:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.404 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.404 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xYnO+atTzIkG for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:13:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8623A6835 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:13:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-16-33.meeting.ietf.org (host-16-33.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.33]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 55B934C0AB; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:13:36 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-213141783; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQ2ZCPBsoQiAbJEI9JBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <4AF6DA8A.1020407@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:13:35 +0900 Message-Id: <4109205E-9FFD-4AC2-BC8D-0A3B434B903B@wide.ad.jp> References: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> <20091108163632.f2d8862b.yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp> <4AF6CA67.1000103@bbn.com> <68E6221B-B2BD-4C9C-9B84-F7AAE9206A4E@wide.ad.jp> <4AF6D294.1040806@huawei.com> <4AF6DA8A.1020407@gmail.com> To: Go Kawaguchi X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment web site X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:13:17 -0000 --Apple-Mail-8-213141783 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes I understood the problem for handling 2 bytes codes in the web interface. Changing the display name field on the web page with Japanese character. and push "SAVE" button. the display name field shows unknown string. (this is bug) But internal display name strings is correct. touching your tag on the reader. Your name including Japanese character will display at the screen. I want to fix this problem soon, but technical staff who take care of the web interface is back to home today. We will fix tomorrow! Thank you for your kindness. osamu On 2009/11/08, at 23:49, Go Kawaguchi wrote: > Hi > Huub and Ole > > you guys mean, like > > From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQG44fTlkGyhC?= > > using MIME encoding of RFC 2231 > at "5. Language specification in Encoded Words" ? > > It's my Chinese characters' one. > > GO > > > From: Ole Jacobsen > Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 23:22:29 GMT+0900 > >> Yeah, I tried that too, looks like the site does not support >> Unicode or at least not two-byte characters. >> Just as Osamu thought he'd get a nap ;-) >> Ole > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > --Apple-Mail-8-213141783 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIKazCCBFww ggJEoAMCAQICAh2LMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMEUxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkpQMRUwEwYDVQQKEwxXSURF IFByb2plY3QxHzAdBgNVBAMTFm1lbWJlcnMgb3JpZW50ZWQgQ0EgMDIwHhcNMDkwNjA4MDQ1MjA0 WhcNMTEwNjMwMjM1OTU5WjBjMQswCQYDVQQGEwJKUDEVMBMGA1UEChMMV0lERSBQcm9qZWN0MRww 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I checked in Japanese. It work fine. if someone has the PC other language (encoded UTF-8), please check and inform me! osamu On 2009/11/09, at 0:13, $BCfB<(B $B=$(B wrote: > > I understood the problem for handling 2 bytes codes in the web > interface. > > Changing the display name field on the web page with Japanese > character. > and push "SAVE" button. the display name field shows unknown string. > (this is bug) > But internal display name strings is correct. touching your tag on > the reader. > Your name including Japanese character will display at the screen. > > I want to fix this problem soon, but technical staff who take care > of the web interface is > back to home today. > We will fix tomorrow! > > Thank you for your kindness. > > osamu > > On 2009/11/08, at 23:49, Go Kawaguchi wrote: > >> Hi >> Huub and Ole >> >> you guys mean, like >> >> From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQG44fTlkGyhC?= >> >> using MIME encoding of RFC 2231 >> at "5. 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Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD843A695D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:01:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::128:226:b0ff:fef1:d7ae] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:128:226:b0ff:fef1:d7ae]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9176434E541F; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:04:11 -0700 (MST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ted Lemon In-Reply-To: <5F8DB291-9DFE-464D-96DB-9996D4E531B8@xs4all.nl> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:01:45 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8CC2426F-A8DD-4607-8AF5-DB83D7C4D9E7@fugue.com> References: <1257689426.3979.19.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <5F8DB291-9DFE-464D-96DB-9996D4E531B8@xs4all.nl> To: Jaap Akkerhuis X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Warnings re: Oriental Hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:01:24 -0000 On Nov 8, 2009, at 11:33 PM, Jaap Akkerhuis wrote: > They did the same in the Righa Royal (another WPP). I'm (now) an happy = camper here. This is the first time I see the IETF-noc take over the = networks in a (the?) overflow hotels as well. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. I have an IPv6 address in the Mitsui = Garden. It's a little spooky... :') From kpfleming@digium.com Sun Nov 8 14:00:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FAF73A68B9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:00:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.74 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xqQCAGQ4YtKY for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:00:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.digium.com (mail.digium.com [216.207.245.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544BB3A6358 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:00:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiler.digium.internal ([10.19.29.150] helo=jupiler.digium.com) by mail.digium.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N7FoT-0005ra-5r for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:00:45 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CB9DFC828 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:00:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from jupiler.digium.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jupiler.digium.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D1WZ6LhRtU1R for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:00:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from [133.93.144.178] (host-144-178.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.144.178]) (Authenticated sender: kpfleming) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63A0DFC827 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:00:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4AF73F88.8060408@digium.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:00:40 +0900 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" Organization: Digium, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=05FB8DB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Anyone interested in a Kobe steak dinner? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:00:21 -0000 Since I've come all the way to Japan, I feel it would be rude of me to not partake of one of Japan's most excellent products :-) If anyone else is interested in such an event, I'd be open to go tonight (Monday) or Tuesday (as I'm not participating in the social event). Of course, that would also require that we find a restaurant in or near Hiroshima offering this specialty... anyone aware of one? -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org From dworley@nortel.com Sun Nov 8 14:20:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1527F3A69DE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:20:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.524 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FTRZBWXSqbit for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:20:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from zrtps0kp.nortel.com (zrtps0kp.nortel.com [47.140.192.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0A93A6358 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:20:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com (casmtp.ca.nortel.com [47.140.202.46]) by zrtps0kp.nortel.com (Switch-2.2.6/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id nA8MKhq17328; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:20:43 GMT Received: from [47.141.31.142] ([47.141.31.142]) by zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:20:42 -0500 From: "Dale Worley" To: "Kevin P. Fleming" In-Reply-To: <4AF73F88.8060408@digium.com> References: <4AF73F88.8060408@digium.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Nortel Networks Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:20:39 -0500 Message-Id: <1257718839.14011.2.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-5.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2009 22:20:43.0246 (UTC) FILETIME=[B608B8E0:01CA60C1] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Anyone interested in a Kobe steak dinner? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:20:25 -0000 On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 07:00 +0900, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > Since I've come all the way to Japan, I feel it would be rude of me to > not partake of one of Japan's most excellent products :-) > > If anyone else is interested in such an event, I'd be open to go tonight > (Monday) or Tuesday (as I'm not participating in the social event). > > Of course, that would also require that we find a restaurant in or near > Hiroshima offering this specialty... anyone aware of one? I'm interested for Monday (today). (I'm going to the social event Tuesday.) Do you have an estimate for the price? Dale From bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr Sun Nov 8 14:24:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3437C28C0F4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:24:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UcA6FK5d3sQ7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:24:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bortzmeyer.org (bortzmeyer-1-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f12:420::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733EE28C0F0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:24:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.bortzmeyer.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 75FF195541; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:24:25 +0100 (CET) Received: by horcrux (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4E608157767; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:24:02 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:24:02 +0900 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: Ted Lemon Message-ID: <20091108222402.GA21078@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> References: <1257689426.3979.19.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <5F8DB291-9DFE-464D-96DB-9996D4E531B8@xs4all.nl> <8CC2426F-A8DD-4607-8AF5-DB83D7C4D9E7@fugue.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8CC2426F-A8DD-4607-8AF5-DB83D7C4D9E7@fugue.com> X-Transport: UUCP rules X-Operating-System: Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Warnings re: Oriental Hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:24:03 -0000 On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 06:01:45AM +0900, Ted Lemon wrote a message of 9 lines which said: > > This is the first time I see the IETF-noc take over the networks > > in a (the?) overflow hotels as well. > > I have an IPv6 address in the Mitsui Garden. It's a little spooky... :') I thought it was common in Japan, often cited for its IPv6 progress. You mean that, outside of the IETF, there is no IPv6 in hotel rooms in Japan (for instance for wedding parties)? From hadi@mojatatu.com Sun Nov 8 14:25:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69873A6358 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:25:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.178, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CUBECvdcIxb3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:25:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDEB3A69DE for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:25:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so2863070bwz.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:25:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.36.202 with SMTP id u10mr7597986bkd.196.1257719142119; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:25:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1257718839.14011.2.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> References: <4AF73F88.8060408@digium.com> <1257718839.14011.2.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> From: Jamal Hadi Salim Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:25:22 -0500 Message-ID: To: Dale Worley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Anyone interested in a Kobe steak dinner? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:25:19 -0000 Interested for Tuesday - since i am not going to social. Is Kobe beef as expensive here as it is in the rest of the world? I bet it would be cheaper if you had it at Kobe;-> cheers, jamal On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Dale Worley wrote: > I'm interested for Monday (today). =A0(I'm going to the social event > Tuesday.) =A0Do you have an estimate for the price? > > Dale > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From ole@cisco.com Sun Nov 8 14:25:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64A23A69E6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:25:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.571 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.571 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.028, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pFfudjJdTlDa for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:25:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D222F3A6358 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:25:43 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAArU9kqrR7H+/2dsb2JhbADDAoEcCAGIBAmNAIJUgWoE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,704,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="427721714" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2009 22:26:09 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA8MQ9Pq012220; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:26:09 GMT Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:25:30 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Kevin P. Fleming" In-Reply-To: <4AF73F88.8060408@digium.com> Message-ID: References: <4AF73F88.8060408@digium.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Anyone interested in a Kobe steak dinner? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:25:44 -0000 Ask the concierge. The key words are Kobe Beef (not steak). I tried looking at the Get Hiroshima pages (linked from the host webpages), but didn't have much luck. It can be pricey, especially for the good stuff, but you're not going to do this more than once this week I assume. Maybe as much as 10,000 yen per person. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > Since I've come all the way to Japan, I feel it would be rude of me to > not partake of one of Japan's most excellent products :-) > > If anyone else is interested in such an event, I'd be open to go tonight > (Monday) or Tuesday (as I'm not participating in the social event). > > Of course, that would also require that we find a restaurant in or near > Hiroshima offering this specialty... anyone aware of one? > > -- > Kevin P. Fleming > Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies > 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA > skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com > Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From spencer@wonderhamster.org Sun Nov 8 14:33:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B895D3A69DE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:33:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.114 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.114 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.224, BAYES_05=-1.11, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6uk8RNOn4kiA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:33:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB513A6826 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:33:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from S73602b (host-24-135.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.135]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MEGcy-1MwK6m0lQm-00FrBo; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:34:08 -0500 Message-ID: <6F9FCF0D640E49BD9D6759BBAB597F29@china.huawei.com> From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: "Ole Jacobsen" , "Brian E Carpenter" References: <4AF63EAF.9050308@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:33:49 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18virU0josD2FoDs4z4FuiZANBwc7RLCzhmbRJ Ayg4VlSxD08qmtDR5+ZWDu6IRIV4D47eC0ETbWq+4z0Zvns8Ba pRvi75WFo301YKeTxR/3wfi8P1NuCU3LisVqCQoE1M= Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Questions about buying train tickets in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:33:45 -0000 Hi, Ole, Thank you for the clue. I've been wondering about this (since I arrived by air but am training out - I haven't tried to rewind the inbound directions yet :-) Spencer > > NEWS FLASH: The JTB desk in the lobby of the ANA hotel can arrange > tickets for you! > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Sun Nov 8 14:34:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624CC3A6826 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:34:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.304 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.304 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HaNB6FdUkD1F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:34:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.sri.com (newmail.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C336E3A6782 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:34:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Received: from [133.93.113.85] ([unknown] [133.93.113.85]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KST007Y1AQUIM20@mail.sri.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:35:19 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <4AF747AE.40806@sri.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:35:26 +0900 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: =?EUC-KR?B?sO28rrCp?= References: <6E524AB0386B422987BED251F6ED4FEA@etri.info> In-reply-to: <6E524AB0386B422987BED251F6ED4FEA@etri.info> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] How to order at izakaya in Nagarekawa? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:34:57 -0000 I speak/read absolutely no Japanese, and I have ordered at two noodle houses, a lunch counter, tea cart on the train and a little cafe on the illuminated boulevard last night just by pointing at pictures or item (e.g. bottle of sake...) in America, we say "go for it." Sometimes a surprise, but usually good... enjoy! On 11/9/2009 1:03 AM, °í¼®°© wrote: > > Hi. > > I have visited a Izakaya (kinda japanese pub) in Nagarekawa. > Unfortunately, I couldn't read japanese menu (I don't know japenese) > and couldn't communicate with a worker. And there are many kind of > Sake. I couldn't choose it. > > Anybody can recommend english-available Izakaya restaurant ? Or, teach > me how to order popular menu in japanese pronounciation. For example, > XXX Kudasai. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com From quigleystravels@gmail.com Sun Nov 8 14:39:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BD33A67F2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:39:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8Xu8G2XS0kWc for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:39:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f192.google.com (mail-yx0-f192.google.com [209.85.210.192]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BA33A67EB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so2725849yxe.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:40:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=0zKOK6G93EJ2va4Kd0X6vWhudTaJZ0YZ+5df7hU6piQ=; b=APctofkDxEyJ4JNIqM28fZckAWiBfwEWcGGPyGdYyqXCQJwBqGH51KZP8t7doe4dwA QGwQBwZyVRVO0A3ps6C5vq7BR/pfufQILO05tI2Bk8PQg3Mra0PeuTSdFb9klfPcMdct ze4gKWBYyB+KHHaOBEm6a3m5tksnExjjYlglk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=SDly5agKVpKDljZ5SmBRoJ+OfWHOgT+nnEnrJwOcAt3JGgqvS1msGHTFpBDZVQhcDq 9DIjw6X9M9gwRr3HjLxeAqGegX7WrYVReYxp47zJCZUganAXmuKwZob9ZFrduzTB86CI o7RDmbK1agFCEgWFWnw6KjtfxjIxGEcmsK+Cg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.54.13 with SMTP id g13mr49422ank.158.1257720016442; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:40:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:40:16 +0900 Message-ID: <678210550911081440v692a28d8wf7e6623f58afa657@mail.gmail.com> From: David Quigley To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636ed76f6ce94c70477e3c271 Subject: [76attendees] Forgot Contact Information X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:39:54 -0000 --001636ed76f6ce94c70477e3c271 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello, There were a bunch of people who wanted to meet up with me at IETF76 but unfortunately I forgot to copy their contact information from my work account to my private one. If we had spoken before the conference and you wanted to meet up send me an email so we can arrange to meet. Dave --001636ed76f6ce94c70477e3c271 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello,
=A0=A0=A0 There were a bunch of people who wanted to meet up with= me at IETF76 but unfortunately I forgot to copy their contact information = from my work account to my private one. If we had spoken before the confere= nce and you wanted to meet up send me an email so we can arrange to meet.
Dave
--001636ed76f6ce94c70477e3c271-- From bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr Sun Nov 8 14:41:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E41F3A6877 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:41:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_I_LETTER=-2, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yqJLAboeO4kZ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:41:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bortzmeyer.org (bortzmeyer-1-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f12:420::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2533A67F2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:41:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.bortzmeyer.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 78E2F95542; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:41:31 +0100 (CET) Received: by horcrux (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D43F7157767; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:40:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:40:38 +0900 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: osamu@wide.ad.jp Message-ID: <20091108224038.GA23271@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> References: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> <20091108163632.f2d8862b.yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp> <4AF6CA67.1000103@bbn.com> <68E6221B-B2BD-4C9C-9B84-F7AAE9206A4E@wide.ad.jp> <4AF6D294.1040806@huawei.com> <4AF6DA8A.1020407@gmail.com> <4109205E-9FFD-4AC2-BC8D-0A3B434B903B@wide.ad.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Transport: UUCP rules X-Operating-System: Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] Unicode characters in name (Was: RFID experiment web site X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:41:14 -0000 On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 01:22:30AM +0900, wrote a message of 161 lines which said: > if someone has the PC other language (encoded UTF-8), please check > and inform me! My first name has an accented charcater (U+00E9) and, while the accented character itself displays fine, the letter after it (the P) is capitalized. In the Web interface, I edited my profile to fix that (using Firefox 3 on an Ubuntu machine) but the capital P pops again. Funny bug :-) If you need the user ID, it is ietfXxHw (I assume it is not secret and you cannot go to the RFID number from this name?) From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Sun Nov 8 14:41:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39E528C0DE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:41:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.629 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.629 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.675, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x3Gu2xKZSLBW for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.sri.com (mail.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABA83A6839 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:41:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [133.93.113.85] ([unknown] [133.93.113.85]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KST007N7B2CIM40@mail.sri.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:42:13 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <4AF7494D.8080809@sri.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:42:21 +0900 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: Ole Jacobsen References: <4AF73F88.8060408@digium.com> In-reply-to: Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Anyone interested in a Kobe steak dinner? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:41:50 -0000 interested in going tonight if a group forms for those also planning to attend the social tomorrow. I have conserved my per diem eating noodles to save up for one kobe beef dinner this week, and suggest everyone do that. A couple 500-1000 yen meals make up for one 10,000 steak... Suggest meeting up at concierge desk after evening session, approx 8:00pm. On 11/9/2009 7:25 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > Ask the concierge. The key words are Kobe Beef (not steak). I tried > looking at the Get Hiroshima pages (linked from the host webpages), > but didn't have much luck. > > It can be pricey, especially for the good stuff, but you're not going > to do this more than once this week I assume. Maybe as much as 10,000 > yen per person. > > > Ole > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > > >> Since I've come all the way to Japan, I feel it would be rude of me to >> not partake of one of Japan's most excellent products :-) >> >> If anyone else is interested in such an event, I'd be open to go tonight >> (Monday) or Tuesday (as I'm not participating in the social event). >> >> Of course, that would also require that we find a restaurant in or near >> Hiroshima offering this specialty... anyone aware of one? >> >> -- >> Kevin P. Fleming >> Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies >> 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA >> skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com >> Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> >> > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com From hhelvoort@huawei.com Sun Nov 8 14:45:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6539D3A6839 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:45:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.703, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cof9otl4wk+C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from szxga03-in.huawei.com (szxga03-in.huawei.com [119.145.14.66]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3193A67F2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (szxga03-in [172.24.2.9]) by szxga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KST00ICTB81C9@szxga03-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:45:38 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.1.6]) by szxga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KST00CV1B81Y9@szxga03-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:45:37 +0800 (CST) Received: from host-160-44.meeting.ietf.org (host-160-44.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.160.44]) by szxml02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0KST000KSB7XWQ@szxml02-in.huawei.com>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:45:37 +0800 (CST) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:45:15 +0100 From: Huub van Helvoort In-reply-to: <4109205E-9FFD-4AC2-BC8D-0A3B434B903B@wide.ad.jp> To: =?UTF-8?B?5Lit5p2RIOS/rg==?= Message-id: <4AF749FB.2070206@huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) References: <4AF671A3.2090704@bbn.com> <20091108163632.f2d8862b.yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp> <4AF6CA67.1000103@bbn.com> <68E6221B-B2BD-4C9C-9B84-F7AAE9206A4E@wide.ad.jp> <4AF6D294.1040806@huawei.com> <4AF6DA8A.1020407@gmail.com> <4109205E-9FFD-4AC2-BC8D-0A3B434B903B@wide.ad.jp> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment web site X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: hhelvoort@huawei.com List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:45:14 -0000 Hello Osamu-san, The characters are readable now on the website. 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From scott.brim@gmail.com Sun Nov 8 15:03:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27E23A67EB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:03:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.556 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.556 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.043, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u1CPanVo7XRh for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f192.google.com (mail-yx0-f192.google.com [209.85.210.192]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722A43A67B6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so2737631yxe.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:03:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QSg5JnsgzEJjL4mSn0Ts40HlUEsx1oPwU4KRP4iSUXA=; b=tgKZpayM62hw4cdTDa9oeu9AB46n7xsIRhn3qBPH1+GdKeCBQvJHIiBzLCM2JwyeAt 2UvLXMkgT8BnW2z6YidqDCgtO3czUTd+taHNvR23TNWhqYqRNrTv8mSemPLLKOYgEo7i j5Rl8TJhp6bgE5cYe++B4Mh121gUffPQ+NuHQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZvvjDV8mQjyKAwTOlKXeu18rUf2M8k1zuH2Rjmv/mc0Y3j1oZzwwwYDvwlQy1my44P LrTUCpWTRCI75xaRT6VybpicTiPQd4avPQFa/ZNWE1Nw+ceIFLMAX29apUeH1tA+IRF4 8EoxyU7L//ZF40hmvAX6tZmmZxjwJZsajZ+Ik= Received: by 10.150.25.34 with SMTP id 34mr2478750yby.209.1257721432313; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:03:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-24-56.meeting.ietf.org (198-135-0-233.cisco.com [198.135.0.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm827249ywd.38.2009.11.08.15.03.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:03:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF74E52.7090909@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:03:46 +0900 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Ghibli Store X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:03:30 -0000 If you're going to be buying toys and knicknacks to bring home, there's a Ghibli Store (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ghibli for info) just a few blocks north on Hondori. From falk@bbn.com Sun Nov 8 15:05:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EEB3A6819 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:05:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.377 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.377 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.222, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VlMJaVVDzgtB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:05:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.bbn.com (smtp.bbn.com [128.33.1.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E580E3A67B6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:05:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.89.252.42] (helo=host-113-9.meeting.ietf.org) by smtp.bbn.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Gpb-0005Yo-Ap; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:05:59 -0500 Message-ID: <4AF74ED6.7030906@bbn.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:05:58 +0900 From: Aaron Falk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Brim References: <4AF74E52.7090909@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF74E52.7090909@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Ghibli Store X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:05:35 -0000 Outstanding!! Scott Brim wrote: > If you're going to be buying toys and knicknacks to bring home, there's > a Ghibli Store (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ghibli for info) > just a few blocks north on Hondori. > > From kpfleming@digium.com Sun Nov 8 15:24:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57523A6819 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:24:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.669 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.669 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.929, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wA-VyR0ASeeg for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:24:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.digium.com (mail.digium.com [216.207.245.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96053A677E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:24:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiler.digium.internal ([10.19.29.150] helo=jupiler.digium.com) by mail.digium.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N7H8H-0006JY-6i for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:25:17 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289D1DFC828 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:25:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from jupiler.digium.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jupiler.digium.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w449cAquWnbU for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:25:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from [133.93.144.178] (host-144-178.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.144.178]) (Authenticated sender: kpfleming) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7C1DFC827 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:25:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4AF75359.2050309@digium.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:25:13 +0900 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" Organization: Digium, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <4AF73F88.8060408@digium.com> <4AF7494D.8080809@sri.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF7494D.8080809@sri.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=05FB8DB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Anyone interested in a Kobe steak dinner? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:24:52 -0000 Ed Jankiewicz wrote: > interested in going tonight if a group forms for those also planning to > attend the social tomorrow. > I have conserved my per diem eating noodles to save up for one kobe beef > dinner this week, and suggest everyone do that. A couple 500-1000 yen > meals make up for one 10,000 steak... > > Suggest meeting up at concierge desk after evening session, approx 8:00pm. My thoughts exactly. It looks like we have at least four for tonight, so let's go with that plan. Meet at the ANA concierge desk at 8:00PM and we'll head out from there. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org From lars.eggert@nokia.com Sun Nov 8 15:44:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212063A69AE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:44:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.419 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.419 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.120, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cimAemDSaoS3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:44:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.fit.nokia.com (mail.fit.nokia.com [195.148.124.195]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEDA3A69C1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::24:225:ff:fe45:eccf] ([IPv6:2001:dfb:0:24:225:ff:fe45:eccf]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.fit.nokia.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA8Nibcv095389 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:44:40 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from lars.eggert@nokia.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-91-243796897; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: Lars Eggert In-Reply-To: <6E524AB0386B422987BED251F6ED4FEA@etri.info> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:44:30 +0900 Message-Id: References: <6E524AB0386B422987BED251F6ED4FEA@etri.info> To: =?utf-8?B?6rOg7ISd6rCR?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (mail.fit.nokia.com [IPv6:2001:2060:40:1::123]); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:44:42 +0200 (EET) Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] How to order at izakaya in Nagarekawa? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:44:29 -0000 --Apple-Mail-91-243796897 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes http://www.doma-doma.com/ has a menu with pictures and English On 2009-11-9, at 1:03, =EA=B3=A0=EC=84=9D=EA=B0=91 wrote: > Hi. > > I have visited a Izakaya (kinda japanese pub) in Nagarekawa. =20 > Unfortunately, I couldn't read japanese menu (I don't know japenese) =20= > and couldn't communicate with a worker. And there are many kind of =20 > Sake. I couldn't choose it. > > Anybody can recommend english-available Izakaya restaurant ? Or, =20 > teach me how to order popular menu in japanese pronounciation. 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Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:45:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EeKSP6hYpo+v for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:45:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::3]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C083A6843 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:45:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::24:225:ff:fe4b:94a8] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:24:225:ff:fe4b:94a8]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB50E308490 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:45:33 -0200 (UYST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Roque Gagliano In-Reply-To: <4AF73F88.8060408@digium.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:45:23 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <4AF73F88.8060408@digium.com> To: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-From: roque@lacnic.net Subject: [76attendees] Sunday soccer report. X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:45:26 -0000 Hi, Yesterday 7 brave ietfers went to play indoor soccer. In order to made an even number we imported a local player. 4 continent represented which made a good mixed. Unfortunately, only 6 players made it to the end of the game, pictures will be provided. It was a lot of fun, so thanks to all the participants. Roque Some tips for the following soccer days: - Print driving directions. Our taxi driver had to ask to at least three people to have an idea how to get to the place. - It is not really a footsal court but a synthetic grass court (what we call "futbol 5" in south america). So, the ball is not as small as in futsal and it dribbles. - Renting leather shoes is a good option for 300 yens. ------------------------------------------------------------- Roque Gagliano LACNIC roque@lacnic.net GPG Fingerprint: E929 06F4 D8CD 2AD8 9365 DB72 9E4F 964A 01E9 6CEE From fred@cisco.com Sun Nov 8 16:04:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DE23A68AB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:04:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=x tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jfoaPgUnE0im for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:04:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com (sj-iport-4.cisco.com [171.68.10.86]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB26F3A6839 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:04:47 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-4.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-Files: Hiroshima-room-Sunday-8-Nov-2009-reduced.xlsx.pdf, Hiroshima-room-Saturday-7-Nov-2009-reduced.xlsx.pdf, Hiroshima-room-Saturday-7-Nov-2009-reduced.xlsx.pdf : 212616, 91534, 50391 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,705,1249257600"; d="pdf'?scan'208";a="48491967" Received: from hkg-core-1.cisco.com ([64.104.123.94]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2009 00:05:07 +0000 Received: from host-112-255.meeting.ietf.org (tky-vpn-client-231-79.cisco.com [10.70.231.79]) by hkg-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA90533a028111 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:05:04 GMT Message-Id: <94C0E9F1-94A4-4C04-A236-37909CF10CBE@cisco.com> From: Fred Baker To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-70-245029332 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:05:03 +0900 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:04:48 -0000 --Apple-Mail-70-245029332 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A remark to those who take a militant libertarian view of Net Neutrality, and those of ledbat and tcpm who have difficulty understanding why transports should tune to the knee (just enough of data outstanding, aka cwnd, to maintain the maximum goodput) as opposed to the cliff (the knee plus the maximum depth of the bottleneck queue, at which point throughput has not increased but loss has increased). Saturday night, as I do many nights that I spend at hotels, I ran a ping study to characterize the network. It was obviously massively overprovisioned - it was difficult to register RTT variance in excess of a millisecond trans-pacific between Japan and the US. I did this again last night. The network behavior as measured from my room was equally stable until about 11:58 PM; at that point, someone fired up something huge, my guess being something that uses bittorrent, delay dramatically increased, and my VPN went down within a couple of minutes. When this happens, customers call ISPs and ISPs start throttling applications, because the applications are doing horrible things to the ISPs' customers. 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required=5 tests=[AWL=1.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PIzHKjeiu6uM for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:05:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A433A69F1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-17-84.meeting.ietf.org (host-17-84.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.17.84]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C98404C0B1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:05:33 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <0B60AC5C-29DD-412D-AC42-29388481A639@sfc.wide.ad.jp> From: Rodney Van Meter To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-54-245058963; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:05:33 +0900 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [76attendees] private network-attached spot? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:05:24 -0000 --Apple-Mail-54-245058963 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know it's rude to suggest that I'm going to spend a little time ignoring the people who have traveled halfway 'round the world to be here, but... I need a spot where I can Skype or otherwise videoconference from here, without disturbing others. Obviously I'd rather use our own network than the hotel's, but the IETF network doesn't reach my room. The terminal room would seem to be the wrong place. Any suggestions? --Rod --Apple-Mail-54-245058963 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIKYDCCBFEw ggI5oAMCAQICAh+5MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMEUxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkpQMRUwEwYDVQQKEwxXSURF IFByb2plY3QxHzAdBgNVBAMTFm1lbWJlcnMgb3JpZW50ZWQgQ0EgMDIwHhcNMDkwNjA4MDYzMjM0 WhcNMTEwNjMwMjM1OTU5WjBWMQswCQYDVQQGEwJKUDEVMBMGA1UEChMMV0lERSBQcm9qZWN0MQ0w CwYDVQQDEwQxMTAxMSEwHwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhJyZHZAc2ZjLndpZGUuYWQuanAwgZ8wDQYJKoZI hvcNAQEBBQADgY0AMIGJAoGBAMY/jkLuPVypmmFdv3yFs3G1Cf9n1q2y8ZHsBVsdHBu1/Aa2z8QJ qPD3T9itH2olwHeHbZrihgj6Yq3pgK47EJlx/IpUR3xEdfmYbgzZ+w/ODDfvSNtFLbfPY3yy1FNL +y1aLLmJjT6eqy80nmJrQlIrgTsiN2rLHRHWaiaEb0IDAgMBAAGjgb0wgbowDgYDVR0PAQEABAQD AgSwMCAGA1UdEQEBAAQWMBSBEnJkdkBzZmMud2lkZS5hZC5qcDA2BgNVHR8BAQAELDAqMCigJqAk hiJodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm1vY2Eud2lkZS5hZC5qcC9jcmwuY3JsMCIGA1UdIwEBAAQYMBaAFDjOxQk6 0w1U8lVx5kjHWvdE3+m6MCoGA1UdJQEBAAQgMB4GCCsGAQUFBwMEBggrBgEFBQcDAwYIKwYBBQUH AwIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADggIBABsJFLbjFiMXUdyi3ciFHoCUniBhmnqeM38tJ2ayQdr/s13P 0wXpKhnb0iX2Chze8bWOi0AD76WvlceQxuxwJvaBcAhIOzVbyVI7X+sQAYjGTBWhISVljc/DhO3a GH587YJFD5VdwXens9pmhsBovWYaBztVby+sdxjmHlVGq+oAmTeU9nwIVTizO0zV12hJEqjJ5cBh yYV8mOa1r9OCDHakNc7uDNCnrn7Kkx+jG3fqJl6D9MLZZJcqHGSsctVG+i1D6TXA6GZe+W86V+N4 idTjp/tndP0eKx692sTD0VHfph8PnMV9EqVMiGIM5hyF4UqhTkN5TpjwAC1vECnTTOAjpKdIQhPC hZM+jOf2d6KzE74xMmA4iQusRZFqTYAIndjyvqyi0TvSvlac86XLSKm65HefisGZ4+MRyMtjubnA XO1U8bejLWvDbblsVYSFuU/6IXBumr8Sh9xIeuFiN9JY+BI23e9oPWDSPG/h41B6iNob9py5XDyl kKr6tn5eN8j/swaQF7vaMPIv5qdDfsRbhbfYyg25A8va5evBbo1t8rvc6xlEcFO724qAPJMKrj5d FFpS3dmtSzUSiIrN/pDFfyF/15SN1bcW9YUJ2Ziu+IGy/IpMn11IK6qy94ybqdu3t+xGmJtwrBC7 F01UmXTx+Kg6JF++XgHwVP00tseaMIIGBzCCA++gAwIBAgICCRYwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwPjEL MAkGA1UEBhMCSlAxFTATBgNVBAoTDFdJREUgUHJvamVjdDEYMBYGA1UEAxMPV0lERSBST09UIENB IDAyMB4XDTA2MDUxODEzMzUzNloXDTE2MDYzMDIzNTk1OVowRTELMAkGA1UEBhMCSlAxFTATBgNV BAoTDFdJREUgUHJvamVjdDEfMB0GA1UEAxMWbWVtYmVycyBvcmllbnRlZCBDQSAwMjCCAiIwDQYJ KoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggIPADCCAgoCggIBAOAWEGfM92HciVLdGWw4dPq1X36X/wMNidhijS8uHzCB qRIY0vjoQDwvU1B+qzVVdgEepsq/eLLc1oRmPvm2Y3e/6GGES2vrQrVCmjpuPYm0vAh0qn3kf2G9 GByk6xwmgLtj1MOpBDRmd2wwojG7gz5Dy1ZGLjd60kad6h3dVyfA2dm01w21t3MFahxcSo1X+pnQ SJ5S/KTLPc+E/RjaXKkDtYu1JOOuyi2WG4tVtXeZttyaHa/+/8tPG3NO/KaVhN3T/XjRMrJkcXSL yjIEx3047WDd2YZ31BLGKCelvX5XPUKHvuVKnQbfjua7iTN5tb4ln/kbPMb77PWZ6Ha6msQCA8IJ oKR3jywldkHPxYsd75C2NkbfSl3kQoyzs4HQmIbbiSONoWP5fXSY60USv0KOYwAc20UScwmrw5ak tuatTl3p6zuuJ1Pu0/dj3xXjr9TkYOT3AkqGNHSMzfZXC+dcm9jy593FMcmuIrSGFfTBxV2iAzOI pyy5gVEf9MQ+EPibtWaneZ/riuZQq0OPPpDDym6w8qw8r6h2E6PF0bsgFGdReejSRb+rpnfv5tAA wtTO0PRzV8LfHUWcr1YB/JeLXmLvVnt9jbWex/HcjWmt+Eds7NWz9n7Q0wLv/wYv97uOyU0iejNc xOpbHOzsD+nN9qJGgkQsGssVWIvhYDXVAgMBAAGjggEGMIIBAjAPBgNVHRMBAf8EBTADAQH/MA4G A1UdDwEBAAQEAwIB/jBbBgNVHSABAQAEUTBPME0GCSqDCIycGAEBAjBAMD4GCCsGAQUFBwIBFjJo dHRwOi8vbW9jYS53aWRlLmFkLmpwL21vY2FfZ3VpZGUvbW9jYV9wb2xpY3kuaHRtbDA8BgNVHR8B AQAEMjAwMC6gLKAqhihodHRwOi8vd3d3LndpZGUuYWQuanAvY2Evd2lkZXJvb3RjcmwuY3JsMCAG A1UdDgEBAAQWBBQ4zsUJOtMNVPJVceZIx1r3RN/pujAiBgNVHSMBAQAEGDAWgBQMzKJLuc+x7LjU 6+SsCZdPsaIxMTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOCAgEACmaRrm9l9VBvWl7gEj9TLESbZYHGrWsWqYui 26MfvP+Z6y1wOjOfhUg/98IzveihHb/ihiuFiBOgALBinR9HRRPI4MxlcLsqMl2YPlFoRawjAd5W zX2PVLEwSX1cdU5TAtQV2k+aigoKdjeXRerNsnjWtZIBr0fsQ5MTRg3+qt8XDd0IgvaH8lMnkWmR GnE41Ke26OFURBbb97ccqHG0+gfetYp4VEtz2TcepyMyaomQNgl/0Bq5YO7hNRKF4Eifje+zHWrF +U5evQm/nyQgHZW44tSwIFixD1zNJB8mJ37Cx3xF6OGwkXaTfhqT76soVgzpPGRJq82IJbCt/CiC BuDKdLVKI9uZ814R55DbdDgi0r8z3E6KWm0Wj5eDJ70ENbRrCm0mn1AUeYM3YwP3/6PW0CmMGQvn z/BrudCG+LGHOQW1xGXVMdD43P9Z2yLjNLdWBa3yzolj/gK9Mf1rj67S2YFMkZ1QVch5u923vE/c HxN9WicPRPtmvdnI66dJcgn1qAioxxsXbDxbzyINYClRvyJYCnihJyrtTTuD5g//y1v+6egOVf1t bxmZ/IyPRK8Fc9nDIsiSX0VWr4leU3AufL60RB+qgfS3ycAO48uAkbtaDxrGkEYOWUzGldSWeXBQ TRynCYkgz06lXSj5I5klFVJWLxDftPKTxiv+CnExggIMMIICCAIBATBLMEUxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkpQ MRUwEwYDVQQKEwxXSURFIFByb2plY3QxHzAdBgNVBAMTFm1lbWJlcnMgb3JpZW50ZWQgQ0EgMDIC Ah+5MAkGBSsOAwIaBQCgggEXMBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZIhvcNAQkF MQ8XDTA5MTEwOTAwMDUzM1owIwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFLN9nlTxIRTNhq3fC7ooV/2UXI4IMFoG CSsGAQQBgjcQBDFNMEswRTELMAkGA1UEBhMCSlAxFTATBgNVBAoTDFdJREUgUHJvamVjdDEfMB0G A1UEAxMWbWVtYmVycyBvcmllbnRlZCBDQSAwMgICH7kwXAYLKoZIhvcNAQkQAgsxTaBLMEUxCzAJ BgNVBAYTAkpQMRUwEwYDVQQKEwxXSURFIFByb2plY3QxHzAdBgNVBAMTFm1lbWJlcnMgb3JpZW50 ZWQgQ0EgMDICAh+5MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUABIGAqN2hP8KYkUx0LEdj7DzDYOiEy8WZ4IRe7n8H ly4AwD/WyLsJKwNHuTRTEP8saDGK9SdOUmfKFHeXUiXjymR2gw60NzmnRdaty7yF9M6DE06CCv11 L1O66XPew9MFipts5Sb1YFZlOMvyIMY8n1wJ79oLpRPOuwi0sQtJ6zzxNTsAAAAAAAA= --Apple-Mail-54-245058963-- From randy@psg.com Sun Nov 8 16:05:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8DA3A67AF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; 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charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Warnings re: Oriental Hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:05:51 -0000 > I thought it was common in Japan, often cited for its IPv6 > progress. yes, often cited. > You mean that, outside of the IETF, there is no IPv6 in hotel rooms in > Japan (for instance for wedding parties)? ipv6 is not very widely actually deployed in japan. more powerpoint than packets. randy From bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr Sun Nov 8 16:15:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E757D3A69CF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:15:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.933 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.933 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.333, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6B9GeCNjzwtL for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:15:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bortzmeyer.org (bortzmeyer-1-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f12:420::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEFA3A6839 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:15:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.bortzmeyer.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id C8E2B9556F; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:15:55 +0100 (CET) Received: by horcrux (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 37024157767; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:13:00 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:13:00 +0900 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: Scott Brim Message-ID: <20091109001300.GA30519@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> References: <4AF74E52.7090909@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AF74E52.7090909@gmail.com> X-Transport: UUCP rules X-Operating-System: Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Ghibli Store X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:15:33 -0000 On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 08:03:46AM +0900, Scott Brim wrote a message of 7 lines which said: > If you're going to be buying toys and knicknacks to bring home, > there's a Ghibli Store (see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ghibli for info) just a few > blocks north on Hondori. Many thanks for the information. But do you have a more specific address? Hondori is large. And 'google:ghibli %20store+hiroshima' was not helpful for me. From eburger@standardstrack.com Sun Nov 8 16:17:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D5E3A6A41 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:17:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PwaQ9D+DyzBN for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from gs19.inmotionhosting.com (gs19b.inmotionhosting.com [66.117.3.189]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F14C3A69F1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-40-25.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.40.25]) by gs19.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Hwx-0000js-52; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:17:39 -0800 Message-Id: <13023F16-588E-4496-A8DE-FCA654336BA1@standardstrack.com> From: Eric Burger To: Fred Baker In-Reply-To: <94C0E9F1-94A4-4C04-A236-37909CF10CBE@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:17:40 +0900 References: <94C0E9F1-94A4-4C04-A236-37909CF10CBE@cisco.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs19.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:17:17 -0000 Nothing like data to make a point! Thanks. On Nov 9, 2009, at 9:05 AM, Fred Baker wrote: > A remark to those who take a militant libertarian view of Net > Neutrality, and those of ledbat and tcpm who have difficulty > understanding why transports should tune to the knee (just enough of > data outstanding, aka cwnd, to maintain the maximum goodput) as > opposed to the cliff (the knee plus the maximum depth of the > bottleneck queue, at which point throughput has not increased but > loss has increased). > > Saturday night, as I do many nights that I spend at hotels, I ran a > ping study to characterize the network. It was obviously massively > overprovisioned - it was difficult to register RTT variance in > excess of a millisecond trans-pacific between Japan and the US. I > did this again last night. The network behavior as measured from my > room was equally stable until about 11:58 PM; at that point, someone > fired up something huge, my guess being something that uses > bittorrent, delay dramatically increased, and my VPN went down > within a couple of minutes. When this happens, customers call ISPs > and ISPs start throttling applications, because the applications are > doing horrible things to the ISPs' customers. > > The attached are a case in point. > > > > Saturday-7-Nov-2009-reduced.xlsx.pdf> Nov-2009-reduced.xlsx.pdf> > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From richard.barnes@gmail.com Sun Nov 8 16:21:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D3B28C0E0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:21:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PGjudEdlZO6v for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:21:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4244928C0D7 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:21:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so2917103bwz.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:21:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=A74R0CHPAmXf1LwFpy1gH4TBpuxwlPhY/MAz9+l+wt0=; b=uHtep7DAfaNAPpokzvyy+4qD8X4jJ2u9nTAoQBwY/ve63HDYsCsgIfjMkseOfWFb+0 CAqIy8xW+n1+Bl4ghxcdoi49xB8iqzJTaNJqs3wD0JCVAaUPpcOuomFY5INw5kidzvVy ABOmMnBrwYvYKQIzyrHMjIaBFyHjEEXfCXpVQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=vTrkge2dybTh/f0Lg5trZ17LCzVvZRgrVqWj8nbuxTSH9nBnUuzxjAFL4OgmF37vwV it+mtZJZBRmPSrnvHyzNjWFspgcTLFHb1arSk7V7ZH1EpNHRL57v47gQGaqRddAOyMfb 7G9gQPrhmns4Ly6/bXANRT50scXBylGAuqQCA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.156.213 with SMTP id y21mr7784687bkw.109.1257726100850; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:21:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <94C0E9F1-94A4-4C04-A236-37909CF10CBE@cisco.com> References: <94C0E9F1-94A4-4C04-A236-37909CF10CBE@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:21:40 +0900 Message-ID: <88ac5c710911081621j59316bbfi16567c241f51a7b2@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Barnes To: Fred Baker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:21:19 -0000 Hey Fred, Thanks for this little study. Note that this doesn't necessarily argue for *application* throttling, as much as for *user* throttling. The network might want to prevent the bittorrent user from interfering with you, but the he can be left free to shut down his own VPN if he wants to. --Richard On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Fred Baker wrote: > A remark to those who take a militant libertarian view of Net Neutrality, > and those of ledbat and tcpm who have difficulty understanding why > transports should tune to the knee (just enough of data outstanding, aka > cwnd, to maintain the maximum goodput) as opposed to the cliff (the knee > plus the maximum depth of the bottleneck queue, at which point throughput > has not increased but loss has increased). > > Saturday night, as I do many nights that I spend at hotels, I ran a ping > study to characterize the network. It was obviously massively > overprovisioned - it was difficult to register RTT variance in excess of a > millisecond trans-pacific between Japan and the US. I did this again last > night. The network behavior as measured from my room was equally stable > until about 11:58 PM; at that point, someone fired up something huge, my > guess being something that uses bittorrent, delay dramatically increased, > and my VPN went down within a couple of minutes. When this happens, > customers call ISPs and ISPs start throttling applications, because the > applications are doing horrible things to the ISPs' customers. > > The attached are a case in point. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > From tony@att.com Sun Nov 8 16:23:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB523A6A41 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:23:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.475 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.475 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.124, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6GT-cYlwLtF6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:23:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail161.messagelabs.com (mail161.messagelabs.com [216.82.253.115]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C523A6A35 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:23:46 -0800 (PST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: tony@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-161.messagelabs.com!1257726250!33943681!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.1.3; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.112.25] Received: (qmail 28273 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2009 00:24:11 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp3.sbc.com (HELO tlph064.enaf.dadc.sbc.com) (144.160.112.25) by server-12.tower-161.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Nov 2009 00:24:11 -0000 Received: from enaf.dadc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tlph064.enaf.dadc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA90OAEV018488 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:24:10 -0600 Received: from alpd052.aldc.att.com (alpd052.aldc.att.com [130.8.42.31]) by tlph064.enaf.dadc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA90O5PX018451 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:24:06 -0600 Received: from aldc.att.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alpd052.aldc.att.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA90O5wV018171 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:24:05 -0500 Received: from maillennium.att.com (mailgw1.maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by alpd052.aldc.att.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA90NwvT018106 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:23:59 -0500 Received: from [135.70.27.20] (vpn-135-70-27-20.vpn.west.att.com[135.70.27.20]) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with ESMTP id <20091109002358gw10014qu1e> (Authid: tony); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:23:58 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [135.70.27.20] Message-ID: <4AF7611C.4040506@att.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:23:56 -0500 From: Tony Hansen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <1257689426.3979.19.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <5F8DB291-9DFE-464D-96DB-9996D4E531B8@xs4all.nl> <8CC2426F-A8DD-4607-8AF5-DB83D7C4D9E7@fugue.com> <20091108222402.GA21078@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Warnings re: Oriental Hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:23:47 -0000 I was here for the codesprint on Saturday, and an interesting happened early on that day: IPv4 stopped working but IPv6 ran just fine. (It turned out to be a routing issue.) It was kind of entertaining seeing which sites still worked and which didn't. I was pleasantly surprised at the number of random sites I *was* able to get to. Tony Hansen tony@att.com Randy Bush wrote: >> I thought it was common in Japan, often cited for its IPv6 >> progress. > > yes, often cited. > >> You mean that, outside of the IETF, there is no IPv6 in hotel rooms in >> Japan (for instance for wedding parties)? > > ipv6 is not very widely actually deployed in japan. more powerpoint > than packets. > > randy From tony.li@tony.li Sun Nov 8 16:24:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739173A6A27 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:24:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7HXmJJGHnKeQ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:24:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DFA3A690D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:24:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from OMTA17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.89]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2nVR1d0041vXlb856oPbT8; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:23:35 +0000 Received: from [133.93.24.69] ([133.93.24.69]) by OMTA17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2oZ71d0061VSmrp3doZBD7; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:33:20 +0000 Message-ID: <4AF7614F.60609@tony.li> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:24:47 -0800 From: Tony Li User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Barnes References: <94C0E9F1-94A4-4C04-A236-37909CF10CBE@cisco.com> <88ac5c710911081621j59316bbfi16567c241f51a7b2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <88ac5c710911081621j59316bbfi16567c241f51a7b2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:24:37 -0000 Richard, I believe that that distinction is the difference between a libertarian viewpoint and a _militant_ libertarian viewpoint, as Fred mentioned. ;-) Tony Richard Barnes wrote: > Hey Fred, > > Thanks for this little study. Note that this doesn't necessarily > argue for *application* throttling, as much as for *user* throttling. > The network might want to prevent the bittorrent user from interfering > with you, but the he can be left free to shut down his own VPN if he > wants to. > > --Richard > > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Fred Baker wrote: >> A remark to those who take a militant libertarian view of Net Neutrality, >> and those of ledbat and tcpm who have difficulty understanding why >> transports should tune to the knee (just enough of data outstanding, aka >> cwnd, to maintain the maximum goodput) as opposed to the cliff (the knee >> plus the maximum depth of the bottleneck queue, at which point throughput >> has not increased but loss has increased). >> >> Saturday night, as I do many nights that I spend at hotels, I ran a ping >> study to characterize the network. It was obviously massively >> overprovisioned - it was difficult to register RTT variance in excess of a >> millisecond trans-pacific between Japan and the US. I did this again last >> night. The network behavior as measured from my room was equally stable >> until about 11:58 PM; at that point, someone fired up something huge, my >> guess being something that uses bittorrent, delay dramatically increased, >> and my VPN went down within a couple of minutes. When this happens, >> customers call ISPs and ISPs start throttling applications, because the >> applications are doing horrible things to the ISPs' customers. >> >> The attached are a case in point. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> >> > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From scott.brim@gmail.com Sun Nov 8 16:26:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4B43A6A41 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:26:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.557 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.557 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.042, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BNAKvKDRJBj5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:26:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C1F3A6A35 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:26:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so569070qwb.31 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:26:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=w9l/2ZszGcT3yhYVSgQ0o/BRd0RsgB2i6aLhkpLNIh0=; b=jjuSFQMuFPqEL5xiOUJSzXNwU9T/RPvZ275yJUYs0K1y2WbzRJ24lU6a0tadnitdE2 71QB0W1rKTu8bQx6JWYtRgd22I7eoxDAVcdybLmPZRCtf1c3G3kRx/kuQGcjqus3iF4P 6kW103Kndo5zxpeh2+J7Wbu7Rt26g5vPL57q0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=nYzEnmIa6sF0g4q1XW6vgPz2BBDNWgWKFnlTcHKst21OgVmmKDTzmtdcZAeHiR3kGa XgU+Ov8mDPvsyTjEMll2KZ53PNHpRKFpbXfPsuK2X2vTrj3pF6MN1gJoC7oKDHpNXsNk Ea4VJEVpLMfSsb3wcawDnlhB5Ll8uS32kzO84= Received: by 10.224.33.141 with SMTP id h13mr3770559qad.42.1257726395994; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-24-56.meeting.ietf.org (198-135-0-233.cisco.com [198.135.0.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm2210265qyk.0.2009.11.08.16.26.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:26:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF761B7.8000406@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:26:31 +0900 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephane Bortzmeyer References: <4AF74E52.7090909@gmail.com> <20091109001300.GA30519@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> In-Reply-To: <20091109001300.GA30519@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Ghibli Store X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:26:13 -0000 Stephane Bortzmeyer allegedly wrote on 11/09/2009 9:13 AM: > On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 08:03:46AM +0900, > Scott Brim wrote > a message of 7 lines which said: > >> If you're going to be buying toys and knicknacks to bring home, >> there's a Ghibli Store (see >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ghibli for info) just a few >> blocks north on Hondori. > > Many thanks for the information. But do you have a more specific > address? Hondori is large. And 'google:ghibli %20store+hiroshima' was > not helpful for me. > Stéphane: since someone actually cares, I'll go through the longer explanation :-) I haven't been there yet but according to the hotel ... Go up Fukuromachi (street car street) to Hondori, which is one block south of the east-west street car street. Turn left. In the middle of the block on the north side the map says "Center" I think, and the woman at reception made a note, "Donguri Kyouwakoku". That's where the Ghibli store is supposed to be. Exactly one block south of Sogo department store. If you're anywhere near Cattleya East I could show you the map. I'm near the back door of the room. If you get more specific information, let us know. Scott From lars.eggert@nokia.com Sun Nov 8 16:26:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA143A6A4A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:26:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.568 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.568 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.031, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ubc4+o4tk4oO for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:26:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.fit.nokia.com (mail.fit.nokia.com [195.148.124.195]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903693A6A35 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:26:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::24:225:ff:fe45:eccf] ([IPv6:2001:dfb:0:24:225:ff:fe45:eccf]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.fit.nokia.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA90QXYF098298 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:26:37 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from lars.eggert@nokia.com) From: Lars Eggert Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-92-246313569; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:26:27 +0900 Message-Id: To: 76attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (mail.fit.nokia.com [IPv6:2001:708:40:fff1::1]); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:26:38 +0200 (EET) Subject: [76attendees] RFID experiment suggestions X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:26:20 -0000 --Apple-Mail-92-246313569 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi, the RFID experiment seems to be working well. A few suggestions: * it'd be neat for remote attendees if when a tag is scanned, the name and affiliation would automatically be posted into the WG jabber room, instead of only been shown on the screen * it'd be good if the tag readers were mounted a bit higher - the lanyards are too short to quickly touch the tag to the reader (my tag is behind my badge) * the name/affiliation info on the screen doesn't seem to automatically time out? 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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] RFID and blue sheets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:28:19 -0000 When using RFID, do we still have to sign the blue sheets? Stig From stpeter@stpeter.im Sun Nov 8 16:28:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1793A6A46 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:28:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WdYSx7zYQ5ag for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:28:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475DD3A6A35 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:28:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-18-99.meeting.ietf.org (64-104-46-217.cisco.com [64.104.46.217]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 661A240D08; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:29:14 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AF76257.1090900@stpeter.im> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:29:11 +0900 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eggert References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment suggestions X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:28:53 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/9/09 9:26 AM, Lars Eggert wrote: > Hi, > > the RFID experiment seems to be working well. A few suggestions: > > * it'd be neat for remote attendees if when a tag is scanned, the name > and affiliation would automatically be posted into the WG jabber room, > instead of only been shown on the screen That was done in the original RFID experiment a few years ago. Should be easy enough. /psa -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkr3YlcACgkQNL8k5A2w/vxIogCfXDC2Vz8Qq6iUBsqyR0twwrq9 gPsAn3w57dHsMu30P/F11LGxh+Bs74dR =JZWk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From presnick@qualcomm.com Sun Nov 8 16:31:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4200D3A6A35 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:31:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IEvDdN5aBIPy for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; 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Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:31:48 -0800 Received: from host-17-134.meeting.ietf.org (10.46.82.6) by qcmail1.qualcomm.com (10.45.56.203) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.176.0; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:31:47 -0800 Message-ID: <4AF762F2.5030104@qualcomm.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:31:46 +0900 From: Pete Resnick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20091102 Eudora/3.0b4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eggert References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment suggestions X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:31:50 -0000 On 11/9/09 9:26 AM, Lars Eggert wrote: > * it'd be good if the tag readers were mounted a bit higher - the > lanyards are too short to quickly touch the tag to the reader (my tag > is behind my badge) It's at the perfect height for me. :-) pr From fred@cisco.com Sun Nov 8 16:32:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF513A6A4F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; 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09 Nov 2009 00:32:30 +0000 Received: from host-24-88.meeting.ietf.org (tky-vpn-client-231-79.cisco.com [10.70.231.79]) by hkg-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA90WShS005588; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:32:29 GMT Message-Id: <38536A80-5CB5-4B8D-83C8-1C5379D5519C@cisco.com> From: Fred Baker To: Richard Barnes In-Reply-To: <88ac5c710911081621j59316bbfi16567c241f51a7b2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:32:27 +0900 References: <94C0E9F1-94A4-4C04-A236-37909CF10CBE@cisco.com> <88ac5c710911081621j59316bbfi16567c241f51a7b2@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:32:05 -0000 On Nov 9, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Richard Barnes wrote: > Thanks for this little study. Note that this doesn't necessarily > argue for *application* throttling, as much as for *user* throttling. violent agreement, and specifically I would argue *against* application throttling. It also is an argument for proper network configuration, which may also be relevant here. I invite attention to ftp://ftpeng.cisco.com/fred/RTT/index.html, and more specifically ftp://ftpeng.cisco.com/fred/RTT/Pages/5.html and its related study. I was in a hotel in Dublin last January and did a similar study. In this case, I measured the behavior of a DSL network that I think was configured with effectively infinite buffer and no allowance for loss. The spikes are interesting. I don't have hard data (the tcpdump trace) to make this assertion, but I suspect I wound up with as many as nine copies of the same datagram in queue, driving very high congestion when it was unwarranted. Had the network been configured with a reasonable buffer depth - 30 ms, 100 ms, whatever - and loss after that, goodput would have been improved. The problem was, I surmise, that TCP was driving to the cliff, and THERE WAS NO CLIFF. From bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr Sun Nov 8 16:32:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D9F28C0F0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:32:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.85 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.85 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.250, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FFFZJQGnqgVx for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:32:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bortzmeyer.org (bortzmeyer-1-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f12:420::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6F628C0E4 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:32:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.bortzmeyer.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 722119556F; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:33:17 +0100 (CET) Received: by horcrux (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8A45F157767; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:32:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:32:48 +0900 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <20091109003248.GA32386@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Transport: UUCP rules X-Operating-System: Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: [76attendees] [RFID] Location not reported X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:32:59 -0000 I played with RFID this morning and, in the Web site, only the time is reported, not the location. 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Session Location RFID Read Time Session Over Time 2009-11-09 08:50:08 2009-11-09 08:52:55 2009-11-09 08:53:18 2009-11-09 08:56:29 From scott.brim@gmail.com Sun Nov 8 16:34:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65293A68D6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:34:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.558 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.558 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.041, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aFM1uFOSvVYO for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:34:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f192.google.com (mail-yx0-f192.google.com [209.85.210.192]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B593A68C2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:34:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so2787178yxe.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:34:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=p96JJweBis/f7+gzMlvDB5eSqkfkgfCUqL1D/2nDG/M=; b=T4b6xWoQvApHJXt8qk4ZP93cmFN6jxrEW+fzOKEj6sEvuMXAd7sEQ/D4t5V9wAwutg m6cAVm63rkNjkkndEf3Hu9BwZsEn0/8Y88N2jaUqJvtPeWRifdadcm+t9vGkw5ZDRvWu DC5RfRiIYa7GC5TC/Xr+BPgm89wKGbcOHQ9jw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=gkYQuSX9ryyCgeC0I4ac4SwZpF7VzfhLQl+u/UUPYD/EQmOeoXdMW4UGPAR56mW8oo Sy4EXW1MSbPsghfvwfc+GHxw/FSn+IpU9BeUU3X+n/h+peljIxJlXnx84gUP7L7ljDLG 7T5CUhmjbCktXvqXYh8j6WpOqFWW24leIYRwI= Received: by 10.150.114.1 with SMTP id m1mr12177575ybc.182.1257726892236; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:34:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-24-56.meeting.ietf.org (198-135-0-233.cisco.com [198.135.0.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm854842ywh.30.2009.11.08.16.34.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:34:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF763A6.6000906@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:34:46 +0900 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pete Resnick References: <4AF762F2.5030104@qualcomm.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF762F2.5030104@qualcomm.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment suggestions X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:34:29 -0000 Pete Resnick allegedly wrote on 11/09/2009 9:31 AM: > On 11/9/09 9:26 AM, Lars Eggert wrote: >> * it'd be good if the tag readers were mounted a bit higher - the >> lanyards are too short to quickly touch the tag to the reader (my tag >> is behind my badge) > It's at the perfect height for me. :-) Yeah, what are these peole complaining about? (said as Tom Taylor tries to swipe his badge) From kpfleming@digium.com Sun Nov 8 16:34:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4053A68C2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:34:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.488 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.488 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.181, BAYES_00=-2.599, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SK6jOkBDnt3Q for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:34:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.digium.com (mail.digium.com [216.207.245.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47443A6A21 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:34:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiler.digium.internal ([10.19.29.150] helo=jupiler.digium.com) by mail.digium.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N7IDk-0006et-6S for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:35:00 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2654ADFC827 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:35:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from jupiler.digium.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jupiler.digium.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XrDo-NkIINI8 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:34:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from [133.93.24.160] (host-24-160.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.160]) (Authenticated sender: kpfleming) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74368DFC82A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:34:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4AF76392.9010708@digium.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:34:26 +0900 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" Organization: Digium, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <4AF761E1.1000005@venaas.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF761E1.1000005@venaas.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=05FB8DB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and blue sheets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:34:36 -0000 Stig Venaas wrote: > When using RFID, do we still have to sign the blue sheets? Yes; they paper sheets are the canonical record, the electronic blue sheets are an experiment. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org From osamu@wide.ad.jp Sun Nov 8 16:35:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BF53A67A2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:35:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.304 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.304 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.200, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YBIuYGCPW5dM for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:35:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D31B3A6A21 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:35:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-16-33.meeting.ietf.org (host-16-33.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.33]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 26C3D4C0AA; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:35:32 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-10-246856568; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQ2ZCPBsoQiAbJEI9JBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <4AF761E1.1000005@venaas.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:35:30 +0900 Message-Id: References: <4AF761E1.1000005@venaas.com> To: Stig Venaas X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and blue sheets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:35:11 -0000 --Apple-Mail-10-246856568 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed yes, please sign the original blue sheets. osamu On 2009/11/09, at 9:27, Stig Venaas wrote: > When using RFID, do we still have to sign the blue sheets? > > Stig > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > --Apple-Mail-10-246856568 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIKazCCBFww ggJEoAMCAQICAh2LMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMEUxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkpQMRUwEwYDVQQKEwxXSURF IFByb2plY3QxHzAdBgNVBAMTFm1lbWJlcnMgb3JpZW50ZWQgQ0EgMDIwHhcNMDkwNjA4MDQ1MjA0 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18:37:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4AF7642F.1020709@digium.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:37:03 +0900 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" Organization: Digium, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <4AF762F2.5030104@qualcomm.com> <4AF763A6.6000906@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF763A6.6000906@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=05FB8DB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment suggestions X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:36:41 -0000 Scott Brim wrote: > Pete Resnick allegedly wrote on 11/09/2009 9:31 AM: >> On 11/9/09 9:26 AM, Lars Eggert wrote: >>> * it'd be good if the tag readers were mounted a bit higher - the >>> lanyards are too short to quickly touch the tag to the reader (my tag >>> is behind my badge) >> It's at the perfect height for me. :-) > > Yeah, what are these peole complaining about? The readers seem to be at a reasonable offset from the microphone height... but speakers don't raise and lower the microphone to their own height, and the microphone has a much more significant capture range than the RFID reader. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org From warlord@pgp.com Sun Nov 8 16:40:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD873A68C2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:40:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.74 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9UFieJfQMJdJ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from pgpeng.com (mail.pgpeng.com [216.112.105.75]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53AD3A6870 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from keys.pgpeng.com (account derek [10.214.100.74] verified) by pgpeng.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTPSA id 5781031 for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:40:26 -0800 Received: from pgpdev.ihtfp.org ([133.93.24.164]) by keys.pgpeng.com (PGP Universal service); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:40:26 -0800 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by keys.pgpeng.com on Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:40:26 -0800 Message-ID: <4AF764F8.70809@pgp.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:40:24 -0500 From: Derek Atkins User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090825) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stig Venaas References: <4AF761E1.1000005@venaas.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF761E1.1000005@venaas.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and blue sheets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:40:02 -0000 Stig Venaas wrote: > When using RFID, do we still have to sign the blue sheets? > > Stig Yes. The blue sheets are still primary. The RFID is secondary. You should use both. -derek -- Derek Atkins Principal Software Engineer PGP Corporation 4 Farragut Ave Somerville, MA 02144 +1 617 623 3745 | warlord@pgp.com PGP Corporation -- Rest Secured.(TM) PGP Fingerprint: 0FEE 5EA1 FF22 E0C9 4FFE 631A 9232 FF93 1C80 1DB7 This email and any attachments thereto may contain private, confidential, and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, copying, or distribution of this email (or any attachments thereto) by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copies of this email and any attachments thereto. From jelte@isc.org Sun Nov 8 16:48:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC613A68E7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:48:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PCcjPpAYsseW for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb::5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF5D3A689E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:48:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:222:43ff:fe24:8028] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:222:43ff:fe24:8028]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992A1E6063; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:48:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jelte@isc.org) Message-ID: <4AF766ED.2030409@isc.org> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:48:45 +0900 From: Jelte Jansen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Atkins References: <4AF761E1.1000005@venaas.com> <4AF764F8.70809@pgp.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF764F8.70809@pgp.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] Name at mic (was Re: RFID and blue sheets) X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:48:26 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Derek Atkins wrote: > Stig Venaas wrote: >> When using RFID, do we still have to sign the blue sheets? >> >> Stig > > Yes. The blue sheets are still primary. The RFID is secondary. You > should use both. > i also notice that the rfids have seem to deprecated the statement of name and affiliation at the microphone. Am i the only one who uses only the audio recording later? (if not, and names are not somehow added automatically to the audio archive, i think we should still state at least our name at the mic) Jelte -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkr3Zu0ACgkQ4nZCKsdOncVhqgCgtMJ0Xw/UZLp5nF33dHOPvh0M 7OIAn3pdIGmHondCVUM4E8l4dPvApg6s =VJ3g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kpfleming@digium.com Sun Nov 8 16:50:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D319D3A69AE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:50:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.398 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.398 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.091, BAYES_00=-2.599, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UndvYi7Puj0R for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:50:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.digium.com (mail.digium.com [216.207.245.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF66B3A68E7 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:50:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiler.digium.internal ([10.19.29.150] helo=jupiler.digium.com) by mail.digium.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N7ITZ-0006oJ-B1 for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:51:21 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50202DFC828 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:51:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from jupiler.digium.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jupiler.digium.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V8X743--5RTN for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:51:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from [133.93.24.160] (host-24-160.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.160]) (Authenticated sender: kpfleming) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8568BDFC827 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:51:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4AF76786.9000400@digium.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:51:18 +0900 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" Organization: Digium, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <4AF761E1.1000005@venaas.com> <4AF764F8.70809@pgp.com> <4AF766ED.2030409@isc.org> In-Reply-To: <4AF766ED.2030409@isc.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=05FB8DB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Name at mic (was Re: RFID and blue sheets) X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:50:56 -0000 Jelte Jansen wrote: > i also notice that the rfids have seem to deprecated the statement of name and > affiliation at the microphone. > > Am i the only one who uses only the audio recording later? (if not, and names > are not somehow added automatically to the audio archive, i think we should > still state at least our name at the mic) At least in SIPCORE, people are still announcing themselves when they being speaking. That should be the case everywhere. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org From ole@cisco.com Sun Nov 8 16:54:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217983A635F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:54:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.571 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.571 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.028, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UDBBzoYpQQu2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:54:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A913A6A0B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:54:30 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEADL39kqrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbADDIIEcCAGIBAmNBIJUgWoE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,705,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="427767455" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2009 00:54:56 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA90suD0011968; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:54:56 GMT Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:54:16 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Kevin P. Fleming" In-Reply-To: <4AF7642F.1020709@digium.com> Message-ID: References: <4AF762F2.5030104@qualcomm.com> <4AF763A6.6000906@gmail.com> <4AF7642F.1020709@digium.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment suggestions X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:54:31 -0000 What we need is those retractable thingys for our badge holders, as seen at RIPE and APNIC meetings. Another "sponsorship opportunity" I guess :-) Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From mellon@fugue.com Sun Nov 8 17:00:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E083A6814 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:00:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ElJgJXy0Inrw for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:00:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0F23A635F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:00:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::24:226:bbff:fe0c:e5bf] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:24:226:bbff:fe0c:e5bf]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C010134E566E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:03:06 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) From: Ted Lemon In-Reply-To: <0E896617-85A1-4DD0-8290-810C8E5F8463@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:00:40 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2E6BC2D3-70F6-4FB5-807A-FB10E3EBD8EC@fugue.com> References: <94C0E9F1-94A4-4C04-A236-37909CF10CBE@cisco.com> <0E896617-85A1-4DD0-8290-810C8E5F8463@cisco.com> To: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:00:19 -0000 I asked Fred privately to clarify what he meant by "militant = libertarian," because I have the good fortune to be somewhat naive about = this dispute. I think his reply might be helpful to some other = readers, so I'm forwarding it to the list. FWIW, I happen to agree = with Fred on this, now that I understand what he was referring to. On Nov 9, 2009, at 9:55 AM, Fred Baker wrote: > There are at least two belief systems I am commenting on. >=20 > One is one of the common viewpoints promoted in the Net Neutrality = debate. Two extremes of that debate are perhaps characterized as "the = ISP can whatever it pleases and can block anything it likes at any time = for any reason" and that which I call "militant libertarian": "the ISP = should never block or drop anything, or engineer its network". On the = surface, both are obviously problematic; yet, I regularly hear = proponents of literally those positions. I would argue that an ISP makes = its money by making guarantees to its customers, and is obligated as a = business to fulfill those guarantees. Among the guarantees an ISP often = makes is that it will block a large percentage of attacks on edge = networks, and that it will deliver certain SLA characteristics such as = one-way delay, throughput rates, and loss levels within its network. I = don't sign contracts that authorize the ISP to comb through my = applications, but I do have legitimate expectations of my ISP, which = means in part that it has an obligation to deal appropriately with its = other customers. >=20 > The other viewpoint is that of members of the TCPM community. I am = reminded of a particular comment from Injong Rhee, designer of Linux = CUBIC. I was asking him to play with some ideas I was proposing in the = area of tuning to the knee, and he asked "why in the world would one = tune to the knee?" (my paraphrase of his remark, which I don't have = handy). This is why one tunes to the knee. >=20 > You may forward this to 76attendees or other lists if you wish. I am = replying to you privately as you commented to me privately. And yes, the = important thing is the belief system, as it is what leads people in the = direction they take. From lmartini@cisco.com Sun Nov 8 17:05:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6329C3A67D3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:05:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jjwGG0eEMxZP for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from napoleon.monoski.com (napoleon.monoski.com [67.41.208.110]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8429E3A635F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from rasputin.monoski.com (host-40-57.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.40.57]) (authenticated bits=0) by napoleon.monoski.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA915Usd014195 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:05:33 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AF76AD5.60705@cisco.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:05:25 -0700 From: Luca Martini User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 67.41.208.110 Subject: [76attendees] RFID experiment web site Edit profile problem ? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:05:13 -0000 Is anybody able to edit their profile in the rfid site ? I can edit the profile , but when I click on save , nothing is saved. I'm using firefox 3.5.3. I would like to fix my name , and put a picture in . Thanks. Luca From richard.barnes@gmail.com Sun Nov 8 17:05:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1351A3A6898 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:05:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xfl9GM+y4aCk for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:05:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C243A67D3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:05:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so2936027bwz.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:05:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=jbXFOBW101pfTSdrb6A7Loo2DqfOsxhz2lzpZhghywo=; b=bQdZYCgORRhh4ESYtLbCLd7yVY8yTKFWZSqmZdj/3NvZTc79hDETsD3p9tw/ksXIQP Qs6OU9oarFZ0joVtwd5BVe1BPat7MY+8lypcDnJFgm2gwV34hCBBABoeqYYY98+tH1qT IvLskqWudnjjrt5WNiWIKKtXubfY0O/0KKviI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=QQlFXpc5W85B8pQrLKA1nDIPF6hdESnVhfqof9kRGLce6U6o49/1WEhVyBiHRTKwnv R8jnMJwh9Ajc3WFWkGlt49eCYN7u40JcVVNOrMSwkxzCTfIwjvzaLpqtcnZ2ygDdxOn6 KElVDK05qPpQT/RsbF5j5gU0lHeFk2lihtwgU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.25.207 with SMTP id a15mr249984bkc.8.1257728759747; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:05:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2E6BC2D3-70F6-4FB5-807A-FB10E3EBD8EC@fugue.com> References: <94C0E9F1-94A4-4C04-A236-37909CF10CBE@cisco.com> <0E896617-85A1-4DD0-8290-810C8E5F8463@cisco.com> <2E6BC2D3-70F6-4FB5-807A-FB10E3EBD8EC@fugue.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:05:59 +0900 Message-ID: <88ac5c710911081705o911a7abx7b2ef43655bb848@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Barnes To: Ted Lemon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:05:38 -0000 >> One is one of the common viewpoints promoted in the Net Neutrality debate. Two extremes of that debate are perhaps characterized as "the ISP can whatever it pleases and can block anything it likes at any time for any reason" If the other viewpoint is "militant libertarian", is this "militant fascist"? (Corporatist? ISPist?) From scott@e-side.co.jp Sun Nov 8 17:07:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195C93A6814 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:07:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g6OaYORoLbMJ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.e-side.co.jp (www.e-side.co.jp [202.45.165.133]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFC53A687C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:07:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3857 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2009 10:08:10 +0900 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (133.93.6.37) by www.e-side.co.jp with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 9 Nov 2009 10:08:10 +0900 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:08:10 +0900 From: scott To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <20091109100810.01d8e05b@e-side.co.jp> Organization: e-side X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Network and Terminal Room Information X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:07:48 -0000 ==== Network Basics ==== The IETF 76 network connects to the Internet via a GE circuit through Japanese R&E NWs, IXs and Japanese major ISPs. The meeting and overflow hotels are covered by 133.93.0.0/16 and 2001:dfb::/32. The IPv4 network address is provided by DHCP, while IPv6 address is provided via DHVP6-lite and Dynamic Auto-configuration for IPv6. ==== Wireless ==== An 802.11 a/b/g wireless network is being provided liberally in the ANA Crowne Plaza Hotel Hiroshima. The areas being specifically covered are the meeting rooms and hallways in the conference area, the main lobby, 7th floor meeting rooms and 22nd floor meeting rooms. To use this network, associate with the beaconed SSID of "ietf" for 802.11b/g and 802.11a/n and "ietf-a" for 802.11a/n. WPA2-AES-PSK is also provided both 802.11b/g and 802.11a/n "ietf.wpa" and 802.11a/n "ietf-a.wpa" with "hiroshimaJAPAN" as the wpa-passphrase. The proper operation of the wireless network requires the assistance of all users. One of the most significant issues with wireless performance in past IETF meetings has been wireless clients automatically, or accidentally initiating "ad-hoc" networks that act as the official IETF wireless network, causing other users to associate with false IETF wireless networks. Therefore, please disable your client's ability to create an ad-hoc network and as well as the ability to automatically join an ad-hoc network. If you are using Windows XP or Mac OS X 10.4 and 10.5 to manage your wireless client, the instructions to disable creation of ad-hoc networks are listed below. If you are using other systems, please do whatever your particular wireless client management system requires to turn off ad-hoc networks. == Instructions for Mac OS X == Open System Preferences -> Network -> Airport -> Options and un-check the box for "Create Computer-to-Computer networks". == Instructions for Windows XP Open Properties -> wireless networks -> advanced and then select "access point (infrastructure) networks only" and unselect "automatically connect to non-preferred networks". ==== Guest Rooms in the Venue and Overflow Hotels ==== The IETF 76 network is also provided in your Internet room access at all IETF hotels (ANA, Sun Route, Mitsui Garden, Oriental, Rihga Royal, and Granvia), both IPv4 and IPv6 identical to the conference area. The hotel network will be rolled back to original configurations between 11am and 2pm on November 13th, Friday. ==== Terminal Rooms ==== There are two terminal rooms - Matsu room and Wedding Hall both on the 4th floor of the ANA Crowne Plaza Hotel Hiroshima. There are approximately 24 seats in Matsu room and 36 seats in Wedding Hall with wired 10/100/1000 Ethernet access and 100V/60Hz Japanese (power outlet is as same as North American type) power outlets. No food or drink in the terminal rooms, please! While Matsu room is open 24 hours a day until 5pm on Friday November 13th, Wedding Hall is open only from 8am to 8pm and available until noon on Friday November 13th. In Matsu room there is a monochrome and a color laser printer. They are IPv6 ready. A help desk is being provided from 8am to 8pm every day in Wedding Hall. ==== NOC ==== If you need to report a problem to the NOC, either stop by the help desk located in Wedding Hall terminal room, or send an email to noc@meeting.ietf.org and the Jabber room at noc@jabber.ietf.org. ==== Printing ==== Two IPv6 enabled printers are located in the Terminal Rooms (one for each room). The printers themselves are RICOH Aficio SP 4210 (monochrome; printer1.meeting.ietf.org: in Wedding Hall) and RICOH Aficio SP C820 (color: printer2.meeting.ietf.org: in Matsu room). C820 is Postscript capable and have the duplex option installed. The printers are accessible via LPD and IPP. The paper size is A4 only, and any letter size printing may result in A4 output. Detailed printing instructions will be available in each terminal room. ==== Services ==== The following network services are provided: == SMTP smtp.meeting.ietf.org (IPv4: 133.93.8.25, IPv6: 2001:dfb:0:8::25) SMTP relay services are provided for users on the IETF network. == NTP ntp.meeting.ietf.org (IPv4: 133.93.8.123, IPv6: 2001:dfb:0:8::123) Stratum 2 time service is provided via IPv4 and IPv6 unicast. Additionally, recursive DNS service is provided by two servers (ns2.meeting.ietf.org, 133.93.8.53, 2001:dfb:0:8::53), and (ns.meeting.ietf.org, 133.93.9.53, 2001:dfb:0:9:53). They don't accept any dynamic DNS update requests. Our domain name is meeting.ietf.org. ==== Thanks ==== The terminal room and IETF network are made possible by the generous contributions by a number of companies and by the tireless efforts of our volunteer team. If you see any of these people in the halls, please be sure to thank them for all their work! Host WIDE Project Platinum Sponsors Internet Initiative Japan Inc. NTT Communications Corporation Gold Sponsors Fujitsu Limited Japan Registry Services Co., Ltd. KDDI CORPORATION NEC Corporation NIPPON TELEGRAPH AND TELEPHONE WEST CORPORATION SOFTBANK BB Corp. Silver Sponsors ALAXALA Networks Corporation Cisco Systems, Inc. ITOCHU Techno-Solutions Corporation Silver Sponsors BBIX, Inc Hitachi, Ltd. INTERNET MULTIFEED CO. Japan Network Information Center Net One Systems Co., Ltd NISSHO ELECTRONICS CORPORATION TOSHIBA CORPORATION Supporting Sponsor Ricoh Co., Ltd Other contributors Hiroshima City University Hiroshima University City of Hiroshima Hiroshima Convention & Visitors Bureau National Institute of Informatics National Institute of Information and Communications Technology Asia Pacific Network Information Center NOC/Volunteers Akira Kato Katsuyuki Hasebe Masafumi Oe Masami Tokunaga Yuichiro Tahara Noriyuki Shigechika Tohru Kondo Yuji Sekiya Takashi Tomine Kohei Hayakawa Akiko Hattori Koichi Shibakawa Tomoaki Kozu Dai Kobayashi Zin Uda Joel Jaeggli Jim Martin Bill Jensen Chris Elliott and more Staff Scott Macdonald From osamu@wide.ad.jp Sun Nov 8 17:09:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829433A686D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:09:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.254 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.254 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yYc9HS1MnUTn for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:09:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9523E3A67D3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:09:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-16-33.meeting.ietf.org (host-16-33.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.33]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 481C94C0B6; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:09:57 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-11-248923031; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQ2ZCPBsoQiAbJEI9JBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <20091109003248.GA32386@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:09:57 +0900 Message-Id: <0FECDE11-27E7-4DDD-9753-0B00B35A1FCD@wide.ad.jp> References: <20091109003248.GA32386@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> To: Stephane Bortzmeyer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] [RFID] Location not reported X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:09:36 -0000 --Apple-Mail-11-248923031 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes "Session Over Time" means test session id before starting today's sessions. We input today's session id to the readers before starting morning session, now you can confirm your session id and location when you touch the RFID tag. osamu On 2009/11/09, at 9:32, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > I played with RFID this morning and, in the Web site, only the time is > reported, not the location. 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core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0ECA3A6809 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:12:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [133.93.17.164] ([unknown] [133.93.17.164]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KST006GQI25QW40@mail.sri.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:13:18 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <4AF76CB6.5090204@sri.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:13:26 +0900 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] souvenir photo ops? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:12:55 -0000 anywhere nearby to get souvenir photo taken in Japanese costume, samurai etc.? -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com From fred@cisco.com Sun Nov 8 17:16:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB6F3A6823 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:16:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.346 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.346 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.253, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AlH9etkQIEgT for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:16:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com (sj-iport-4.cisco.com [171.68.10.86]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0933A67D3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:16:07 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-4.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsoEAJj89kpAaHte/2dsb2JhbACBTcFPljOEPgSCYA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,705,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="48500102" Received: from hkg-core-1.cisco.com ([64.104.123.94]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2009 01:16:31 +0000 Received: from host-24-88.meeting.ietf.org (tky-vpn-client-231-79.cisco.com [10.70.231.79]) by hkg-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA91GU5e018191; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:16:31 GMT Message-Id: <2C8434A8-4AA4-42AB-A2DB-19D472E32A06@cisco.com> From: Fred Baker To: Richard Barnes In-Reply-To: <88ac5c710911081705o911a7abx7b2ef43655bb848@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:16:30 +0900 References: <94C0E9F1-94A4-4C04-A236-37909CF10CBE@cisco.com> <0E896617-85A1-4DD0-8290-810C8E5F8463@cisco.com> <2E6BC2D3-70F6-4FB5-807A-FB10E3EBD8EC@fugue.com> <88ac5c710911081705o911a7abx7b2ef43655bb848@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:16:07 -0000 :-) On Nov 9, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Richard Barnes wrote: >>> One is one of the common viewpoints promoted in the Net Neutrality >>> debate. Two extremes of that debate are perhaps characterized as >>> "the ISP can whatever it pleases and can block anything it likes >>> at any time for any reason" > > If the other viewpoint is "militant libertarian", is this "militant > fascist"? (Corporatist? ISPist?) > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From hiromi@inetcore.com Sun Nov 8 17:25:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2AF3A687C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:25:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.818 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.818 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, HOST_EQ_NE_JP=2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SUylRpmtjLhS for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from inc.inetcore.com (p0245a2.tokyff01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [121.2.69.162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC993A6814 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-17-237.meeting.ietf.org (host-17-237.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.17.237]) by inc.inetcore.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7512F2C3883 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:25:34 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <4C9E405D-84DE-4648-B3AC-119BA93FA964@inetcore.com> From: Ruri Hiromi To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:25:33 +0900 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [76attendees] could not change my profile from the web page X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:25:40 -0000 Hi, I tried to modify my profile at https://tagexp001.ietf76.jp/user/, but in vain. I simply input my new organization name and press "save" then the original information page showed again. Was I wrong in operation? Let me know the correct operation, please. Regards, ------------------------------- Ruri Hiromi Intec NetCore, Inc. / Keio university hiromi@inetcore.com From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Sun Nov 8 17:25:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E713A6A2A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:25:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.579 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.579 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6UhhoNMaR7Z9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.sri.com (newmail.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DF23A6A24 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:25:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [133.93.17.164] ([unknown] [133.93.17.164]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KST006P4INPQW80@mail.sri.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:26:14 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <4AF76FBE.3020601@sri.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:26:22 +0900 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] avoid isms when discussing Net Neutrality X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:25:50 -0000 Is Net Neutrality a Communist Plot? ("Declassified DoD Film") http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000627.html Greetings. As a strong supporter of Net Neutrality ( http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000625.html ), I've been increasingly concerned by recent accusations from some anti-neutrality forces and media commentators, who claim that Net Neutrality is actually an insidious and dangerous "communist plot" that must be destroyed at all costs. Such a characterization has seemed utterly ridiculous to me, and hopefully also to most other reasonable observers. However, a friend of mine working at a certain "Three-Initial Agency" (that must remain unnamed) recently uncovered a long-lost U.S. government film that appears to shed unexpected light on accusations of a linkage between communist/Marxist ideologies and Net Neutrality. He managed to get the short film (only a few minutes long) rapidly declassified and shipped it out to me. I've now digitized the 16mm print and brought it online. The complete film (with associated very brief explanatory text, etc. that I've included) can be viewed at the YouTube link: Is Net Neutrality a Communist Plot? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fCLFKlYW3c I must admit, the film certainly had an impact on me! --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren@vortex.com Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, NNSquad - Network Neutrality Squad - http://www.nnsquad.org Founder, GCTIP - Global Coalition for Transparent Internet Performance - http://www.gctip.org Founder, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/laurenweinstein -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com From jabley@hopcount.ca Sun Nov 8 17:26:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559AF3A687C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:26:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zjKkR8YB-w9G for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:26:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from monster.hopcount.ca (monster.hopcount.ca [216.235.14.38]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6883A635F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:26:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [133.93.24.43] (helo=host-24-43.meeting.ietf.org) by monster.hopcount.ca with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1N7J2A-000L08-8f for 76attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:27:06 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) From: Joe Abley In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:27:03 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <0B27FFFC-B3D6-4D0E-8607-F2E621C534AC@hopcount.ca> References: To: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: [76attendees] Welcome to the "76attendees" mailing list X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:26:43 -0000 On 2009-11-09, at 10:22, 76attendees-request@ietf.org wrote: > Welcome to the 76attendees@ietf.org mailing list! Note Well I just unsubscribed from this list and re-subscribed from a different address, for reasons of personal mail hygeine. I happened to notice that unsubscribing requires confirmation, but subscribing does not. That seems backwards, or at least allowing arbitrary addresses to be subscribed to a busy list without having the potential recipient confirm seems potentially problematic. Not a problem for me; just an observation. Joe From randy@psg.com Sun Nov 8 17:28:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD843A6A24 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:28:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LVEqJcs24uZi for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:28:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC753A687C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:28:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-40-47.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.40.47]) by ran.psg.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1N7J3g-000KAC-4i; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:28:40 +0000 Message-ID: <4AF77045.5000801@psg.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:28:37 +0900 From: Randy Bush User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruri Hiromi References: <4C9E405D-84DE-4648-B3AC-119BA93FA964@inetcore.com> In-Reply-To: <4C9E405D-84DE-4648-B3AC-119BA93FA964@inetcore.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] could not change my profile from the web page X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:28:22 -0000 and userid/password recovery would be appreciated by space cases such as i. randy From Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com Sun Nov 8 17:35:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2329928C0F7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:35:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.575 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.575 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.024, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nqMMEGAzPCnx for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:35:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ilptiron01.ecitele.com (ilptiron01.ecitele.com [147.234.242.161]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF21D3A68CC for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:35:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from ilptexfe.ecitele.com (HELO ilptexch01.ecitele.com) ([172.31.244.40]) by ilptiron01.ecitele.com with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2009 03:26:04 +0200 Received: from ILPTMAIL02.ecitele.com ([147.234.244.213]) by ilptexch01.ecitele.com ([172.31.244.40]) with mapi; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 03:35:32 +0200 From: Alexander Vainshtein To: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 03:35:36 +0200 Thread-Topic: [76attendees] ATM in NHK building on 3rd floor Thread-Index: AcpfYhkC+WbVTsguTvGl9PK95/N4wwBepaSQ Message-ID: References: <8c99930d0911062021m663125a8xb0609684237634e8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8c99930d0911062021m663125a8xb0609684237634e8@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM in NHK building on 3rd floor X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:35:09 -0000 Andy, Lots of thanks for excellent navigation! I've found it, and my VISA card worked there!!! Regards, Sasha > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew G. Malis > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 6:22 AM > To: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [76attendees] ATM in NHK building on 3rd floor >=20 > I found the ATM in the post office in the NHK building - it's=20 > not obvious. >=20 > Exit the hotel, turn right, and cross the street, heading for the > Starbucks sign. Do not take the escalator up to Starbucks, rather, > enter the NHK building at the ground floor and take the main elevator > on your right. You'll see a sign in front of the elevator for the Post > Office on the 3rd floor. After exiting the elevator, turn left and go > down a very narrow corridor. The post office is directly in front of > you with a sliding glass door, and the ATM is directly inside the door > on your right. My Bank of America ATM card worked just fine. If you > don't want a 10,000 Yen bill, then get 9,000 Yen and you'll get nine > 1,000 Yen bills. >=20 > Note that there's a different ATM next to Starbucks on the 2nd floor. > That one did not accept my Bank of America card. >=20 > The post office ATM is open today (Saturday) until 5 PM and=20 > is closed tomorrow. >=20 > Cheers, > Andy > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > = From randy@psg.com Sun Nov 8 17:37:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90563A68B1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:37:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id azYy2GLnzk9C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:37:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1A13A687C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:37:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rmac.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1N7JCD-000KCR-O6; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:37:29 +0000 Received: from host-113-170.meeting.ietf.org.psg.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rmac.psg.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297FA2BF0ACD; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:37:29 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:37:29 +0900 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Jared Mauch In-Reply-To: <00B8E305-E23D-4CDE-835A-213CCA6EF059@puck.nether.net> References: <4C9E405D-84DE-4648-B3AC-119BA93FA964@inetcore.com> <4AF77045.5000801@psg.com> <00B8E305-E23D-4CDE-835A-213CCA6EF059@puck.nether.net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] could not change my profile from the web page X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:37:06 -0000 >> and userid/password recovery would be appreciated by space cases >> such as i. > I believe this is what the RFID help desk is for. and i fly to seattle when i need similar help with amazon.com randy From quigleystravels@gmail.com Sun Nov 8 17:44:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4CF3A67F3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:44:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YIhqXN31v8l4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; 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Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:45:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <8c99930d0911062021m663125a8xb0609684237634e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:45:12 +0900 Message-ID: <678210550911081745x3474f88dp753b0d970abe4a4@mail.gmail.com> From: David Quigley To: Alexander Vainshtein Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636b2b0e82ebf750477e65802 Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] ATM in NHK building on 3rd floor X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:44:51 -0000 --001636b2b0e82ebf750477e65802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 For everyone else your best bet for an ATM that will take all of your cards and if you have a business travel card will give you cash advances is the one in the 7-11 down the street from the conference hotel. Make a left coming out from the front enterance and then take a left and first block you come to. Walk down about 2 or 3 blocks and you'll see it on your right hand side on the corner. Dave On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Alexander Vainshtein < Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> wrote: > Andy, > Lots of thanks for excellent navigation! > I've found it, and my VISA card worked there!!! > > Regards, > Sasha > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org > > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew G. Malis > > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 6:22 AM > > To: 76attendees@ietf.org > > Subject: [76attendees] ATM in NHK building on 3rd floor > > > > I found the ATM in the post office in the NHK building - it's > > not obvious. > > > > Exit the hotel, turn right, and cross the street, heading for the > > Starbucks sign. Do not take the escalator up to Starbucks, rather, > > enter the NHK building at the ground floor and take the main elevator > > on your right. You'll see a sign in front of the elevator for the Post > > Office on the 3rd floor. After exiting the elevator, turn left and go > > down a very narrow corridor. The post office is directly in front of > > you with a sliding glass door, and the ATM is directly inside the door > > on your right. My Bank of America ATM card worked just fine. If you > > don't want a 10,000 Yen bill, then get 9,000 Yen and you'll get nine > > 1,000 Yen bills. > > > > Note that there's a different ATM next to Starbucks on the 2nd floor. > > That one did not accept my Bank of America card. > > > > The post office ATM is open today (Saturday) until 5 PM and > > is closed tomorrow. > > > > Cheers, > > Andy > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > --001636b2b0e82ebf750477e65802 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For everyone else your best bet for an ATM that will take all of your cards= and if you have a business travel card will give you cash advances is the = one in the 7-11 down the street from the conference hotel. Make a left comi= ng out from the front enterance and then take a left and first block you co= me to. Walk down about 2 or 3 blocks and you'll see it on your right ha= nd side on the corner.

Dave

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:35 AM,= Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> wrote:=
Andy,
Lots of thanks for excellent navigation!
I've found it, and my VISA card worked there!!!

Regards,
=A0 =A0 Sasha

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 76attendees-boun= ces@ietf.org
> [mailto:76attendees-bo= unces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew G. Malis
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 6:22 AM
> To: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [76attendees] ATM in NHK building on 3rd floor
>
> I found the ATM in the post office in the NHK building - it's
> not obvious.
>
> Exit the hotel, turn right, and cross the street, heading for the
> Starbucks sign. Do not take the escalator up to Starbucks, rather,
> enter the NHK building at the ground floor and take the main elevator<= br> > on your right. You'll see a sign in front of the elevator for the = Post
> Office on the 3rd floor. After exiting the elevator, turn left and go<= br> > down a very narrow corridor. The post office is directly in front of > you with a sliding glass door, and the ATM is directly inside the door=
> on your right. My Bank of America ATM card worked just fine. If you > don't want a 10,000 Yen bill, then get 9,000 Yen and you'll ge= t nine
> 1,000 Yen bills.
>
> Note that there's a different ATM next to Starbucks on the 2nd flo= or.
> That one did not accept my Bank of America card.
>
> The post office ATM is open today (Saturday) until 5 PM and
> is closed tomorrow.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
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--001636b2b0e82ebf750477e65802-- From turners@ieca.com Sun Nov 8 17:51:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541443A67F3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:51:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.389 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.389 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.280, BAYES_05=-1.11, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iJD0OOo8rC7Z for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:51:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp102.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp102.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.237]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AF7E3A635F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:51:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 72412 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2009 01:52:21 -0000 Received: from host-24-125.meeting.ietf.org (turners@133.93.24.125 with plain) by smtp102.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Nov 2009 17:52:21 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: ZrP3VLSswBDL75pF8ymZHDSu9B.vcMfDPgLJ X-YMail-OSG: p4O9KsQVM1kJBAwjYSDqCwMPwTobOJ5Aj8dSTVf2qi0BqEizA2GwZrXk0F.w4GuXKGDC0WWjPxv7721DbPbGt7l6FhltM8GPb5Dg_uOCxt5Sa_PLsowB0KOWPkoNaJuRi4vF2l7Ee23fK2f6gEw6AHvb2OJicQAOeUEmuOUL0cpelPMfyFoEHoSv6heu30Pv5rJUdG6Yefnr.GLIp47b90eFpTbINSK0LbbK8tLA4wIfF.8KjYPna3P5jpQo.NoRPPOaVye5sN3Um0.hsHJlbT_ULHu.eZ2wnDQxOMbsrado118BduHg7i4TlV7y4kUTHivrqC2PSSqG6MyP_FufshhEt1ivXl16XEHvGsy99zdIbaExE42WQULOVD50TFfxxRxl6s5kyZE_HNGar3zesWDLfR26bUXVOqknpfnVyl03Sxv2lBg2Kw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4AF775D3.2060702@ieca.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:52:19 +0900 From: Sean Turner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luca Martini References: <4AF76AD5.60705@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF76AD5.60705@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment web site Edit profile problem ? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:51:59 -0000 I too tried to update my profile to add a picture. It failed a couple of times before I noticed that the file has to be less than 300K. After I fixed the file size it saved just fine. spt Luca Martini wrote: > Is anybody able to edit their profile in the rfid site ? > > I can edit the profile , but when I click on save , nothing is saved. > I'm using firefox 3.5.3. > > I would like to fix my name , and put a picture in . > > Thanks. > Luca > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From acooper@cdt.org Sun Nov 8 17:58:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5BB3A68DD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:58:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vmXpsGdu-b3B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:58:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.maclaboratory.net (mail.maclaboratory.net [209.190.215.232]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10ECD3A68DB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:58:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-18-93.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.18.93]) (authenticated user acooper@cdt.org) by mail.maclaboratory.net (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:58:48 -0500 Message-Id: <0ACAB0C0-8331-402A-BE0E-A73D185D3804@cdt.org> From: Alissa Cooper To: Ted Lemon In-Reply-To: <2E6BC2D3-70F6-4FB5-807A-FB10E3EBD8EC@fugue.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:58:45 +0900 References: <94C0E9F1-94A4-4C04-A236-37909CF10CBE@cisco.com> <0E896617-85A1-4DD0-8290-810C8E5F8463@cisco.com> <2E6BC2D3-70F6-4FB5-807A-FB10E3EBD8EC@fugue.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:58:31 -0000 This seems oddly backwards to me in the context of the net neutrality debate. If the question is whether regulation can impose constraints on ISPs such that "the ISP should never block or drop anything, or engineer its network," the camp _opposed_ to such regulation would normally be considered more libertarian, right? Alissa On Nov 9, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Ted Lemon wrote: > I asked Fred privately to clarify what he meant by "militant > libertarian," because I have the good fortune to be somewhat naive > about this dispute. I think his reply might be helpful to some > other readers, so I'm forwarding it to the list. FWIW, I happen to > agree with Fred on this, now that I understand what he was referring > to. > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 9:55 AM, Fred Baker wrote: >> There are at least two belief systems I am commenting on. >> >> One is one of the common viewpoints promoted in the Net Neutrality >> debate. Two extremes of that debate are perhaps characterized as >> "the ISP can whatever it pleases and can block anything it likes at >> any time for any reason" and that which I call "militant >> libertarian": "the ISP should never block or drop anything, or >> engineer its network". On the surface, both are obviously >> problematic; yet, I regularly hear proponents of literally those >> positions. I would argue that an ISP makes its money by making >> guarantees to its customers, and is obligated as a business to >> fulfill those guarantees. Among the guarantees an ISP often makes >> is that it will block a large percentage of attacks on edge >> networks, and that it will deliver certain SLA characteristics such >> as one-way delay, throughput rates, and loss levels within its >> network. I don't sign contracts that authorize the ISP to comb >> through my applications, but I do have legitimate expectations of >> my ISP, which means in part that > it has an obligation to deal appropriately with its other customers. >> >> The other viewpoint is that of members of the TCPM community. I am >> reminded of a particular comment from Injong Rhee, designer of >> Linux CUBIC. I was asking him to play with some ideas I was >> proposing in the area of tuning to the knee, and he asked "why in >> the world would one tune to the knee?" (my paraphrase of his >> remark, which I don't have handy). This is why one tunes to the knee. >> >> You may forward this to 76attendees or other lists if you wish. I >> am replying to you privately as you commented to me privately. And >> yes, the important thing is the belief system, as it is what leads >> people in the direction they take. > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From suna@wide.ad.jp Sun Nov 8 19:03:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F693A6A5A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:03:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.51 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yI4YBfUW1iIF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:03:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mo11.iij4u.or.jp (mo11.iij4u.or.jp [210.138.174.79]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CAEA3A689A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:03:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by mo.iij4u.or.jp (mo11) id nA932NSc005936; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:02:23 +0900 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (host-19-43.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.19.43]) by mbox.iij4u.or.jp (mbox10) id nA932LJY004235 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:02:22 +0900 Message-ID: <4AF7863B.7080201@wide.ad.jp> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:02:19 +0900 From: Hideki Sunahara User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Abley References: <00163E9C-9FE0-414A-A512-1FCAAAC6EFE0@icann.org> In-Reply-To: <00163E9C-9FE0-414A-A512-1FCAAAC6EFE0@icann.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Wifi on N700 nozomi trains X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:03:49 -0000 > > Apologies if this has been asked before and I missed it -- is there a > way for a foreign visitor to Japan who is not a customer of a Japanese > ISP or mobile phone company to get wifi on the N700 nozomi trains > between Tokyo and Hiroshima? > > I see plenty of SSIDs, but they all seem to require WEP (or similar) > keys. > > I have good 3G Internet access on my iPhone, but nothing for the > laptop, and there are still several hours to fill on this train :-) > One Important Point is "This Internet Connection Service is only available between Shin-Osaka and Tokyo". You can't use them between Shin-Osaka and Hiroshima. This service is rely on usual WiFi HotSpot Services. Following Four Providers are available on N700 Shinkansen. - HotSpot (NTT Communications) http://www.hotspot.ne.jp/en/ - Mzone (NTT docomo) Sorry, I can't find url in English. http://www.mopera.net/service/course/wlan/index.html - BB Mobile Point (Softbank) Sorry, I can't find url in English. http://tm.softbank.jp/consumer/wlan/index.html - UQ Wi-Fi (UQ Communications) Sorry, I can't find url in English. http://www.uqwimax.jp/ If you have WiFi HotSpot Service in your country, sometimes Roaming service is available in some services. Please check it. If not, you can get One day Pass for use in Shinkansen. HotSpot (NTT Communications) has "1 Day Passport". This service is available in several area in Japan include NARITA airport. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hideki Sunahara Graduate School of Media Design, Keio University|E-Mail: suna@wide.ad.jp From jelte@isc.org Sun Nov 8 19:17:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462D93A68DB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:17:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pzh31ZxCPLQ3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:17:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb::5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8F33A6767 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:17:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:222:43ff:fe24:8028] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:222:43ff:fe24:8028]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CF6E6064; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 03:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jelte@isc.org) Message-ID: <4AF789DB.4060300@isc.org> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:17:47 +0900 From: Jelte Jansen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Brim References: <4AF74E52.7090909@gmail.com> <20091109001300.GA30519@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> <4AF761B7.8000406@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF761B7.8000406@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Ghibli Store X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:17:28 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > > I haven't been there yet but according to the hotel ... Go up > Fukuromachi (street car street) to Hondori, which is one block south of > the east-west street car street. Turn left. In the middle of the block > on the north side the map says "Center" I think, and the woman at > reception made a note, "Donguri Kyouwakoku". That's where the Ghibli > store is supposed to be. Exactly one block south of Sogo department store. > I just went there, it is inside the Sunmall on the 4th floor. The english name of the store is Donguri Republic, mall maps are available at the entrance (which is almost immediately on your right when you turn left onto hondori). Be advised that it is a pretty small store, but for me it was certainly worth it. Thanks for the tip! Jelte -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkr3idsACgkQ4nZCKsdOncVnTQCeK6IM+BGHJFGZIUFKW6vIntE+ wy8Anj5bSEylcwGTDZ6dRak1XC68Oxl1 =fZAg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From masa@fumi.org Sun Nov 8 19:20:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3555F3A67DD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:20:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.769 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.769 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hYI0Q09Om3Ar for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:20:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta.nao.ac.jp (mta1-ext.mtk.nao.ac.jp [133.40.6.5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757043A6864 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:20:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from anago.fumi.org (sslvpn-39-226.mtk.nao.ac.jp [133.40.39.226]) by mta.nao.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC4FE613B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:21:21 +0900 (JST) Received: by anago.fumi.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8F67A2B455; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:21:19 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:21:19 +0900 From: Masafumi OE To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <20091109032119.GF9355@anago.fumi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: [76attendees] NOTIFY: Rouge RA detection X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:20:57 -0000 Dear 76attendees, There are Rouge RA client in IETF76 network. Please shutdown RA function on the following client. HOSTNAME /IP / MAC ADDRESS / SSID /location janet-ebaec2cab/133.93.24.165 /00:1b:77:a9:05:24 / ietf-a /ACACIA East User Trace ==> janet-ebaec2cab 09/11/09 : ACACIA-West(08:52) -> ACACIA-East(09:19) -> 4F Foyer (11:51) -- Masafumi OE /NAOJ/WIDE From wilmer@google.com Sun Nov 8 19:24:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CDE3A6864 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:24:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.372, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QaTM5Un4aezB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out.google.com (smtp-out.google.com [216.239.45.13]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD5E3A67F1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:24:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from wpaz1.hot.corp.google.com (wpaz1.hot.corp.google.com [172.24.198.65]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id nA93OkOH018458 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:24:47 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; t=1257737087; bh=MaT1qwPnYQZCqXkUp0nHV7BgbmY=; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID:Subject:From: To:Cc:Content-Type; b=P24W9pt63A4YT+njxUOxesgLqHjI7OpW+vDtRDUSa78mFR2CW206zp9anHZP7NKPO jHgJqA+DHTR0Pzr/ZQIfg== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=beta; d=google.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to: cc:content-type:x-system-of-record; b=BGYW/SmcORZlELr15iBtTXVO1OOM2/azOm9Uwc2wYwu08BFDjIPSv3+WLDvsaZZNS WZPOUKbVynCw7H/nzHojw== Received: from fxm21 (fxm21.prod.google.com [10.184.13.21]) by wpaz1.hot.corp.google.com with ESMTP id nA93OSx1019496 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:24:44 -0800 Received: by fxm21 with SMTP id 21so23673fxm.1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:24:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.10.8 with SMTP id n8mr1827823bkn.48.1257737083367; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:24:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0FC99E6C-FC10-4687-82B0-77FC9459C523@NLnetLabs.nl> References: <20091107072353.GA257@rvdp.org> <0FC99E6C-FC10-4687-82B0-77FC9459C523@NLnetLabs.nl> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:24:43 +0900 Message-ID: <7c31c8cc0911081924v1337c5c9k2df3da4852d2d4f0@mail.gmail.com> From: Wilmer van der Gaast To: Olaf Kolkman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-System-Of-Record: true Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] credit card problem at ANA hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:24:23 -0000 2009/11/7 Olaf Kolkman : > I've heard reports of the ING Bank Cards (Maestro) not being accepted in > some countries, haven't tried during this trip yet, Maestro isn't a credit card and would only work in ATMs anyway, right? I had no troubles with my Dutch (Rabobank) credit card so far, used it for my hotel in Tokyo and getting my Nozomi ticket. Wilmer. From kato@wide.ad.jp Sun Nov 8 19:25:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48C53A67DB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:25:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4G-4qCvHNWcx for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5073A67F1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:25:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:32:21f:3bff:fec6:73bd]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2988E8045B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:25:24 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D5EE7D1D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:25:23 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:25:23 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091109.122523.208567330.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Akira Kato X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Need extra caution to connect your non-terminal device X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:25:03 -0000 We found one device (Cisco-Linksys WRT54GC) is responding with DHCP request and offering a RFC1918 address. If any machine happen to pick an offer from the rogue DHCP server over our DHCP servers, it will have a RFC1918 address and lost Internet connectivity. We suspect if somebody connects the hotel guest room UTP to his/her machine in a WRONG port (internal port) rather than the external port. This box resides in a room in ANA Hotel 6F throuth 10F. As it is in the Hotel environment, we are not able to track this in detail. We perform MAC filter with this one. It seems to us that WRT54GC indicates the upstream (external) port by blue while other internal port by yellow, and this is a nice idea to prevent from wrong connection... -- Akira Kato From cabo@tzi.org Sun Nov 8 19:30:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43003A6A65 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:30:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V36wllldXYbT for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:30:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9:209:3dff:fe00:7136]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADCC3A6A64 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:30:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA93Uuv5017342; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:30:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from host-24-126.meeting.ietf.org (host-24-126.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DB1B2A1; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:30:53 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <7c31c8cc0911081924v1337c5c9k2df3da4852d2d4f0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:30:42 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <34EBF2CA-292F-4DB9-957D-7DE80D848CB0@tzi.org> References: <20091107072353.GA257@rvdp.org> <0FC99E6C-FC10-4687-82B0-77FC9459C523@NLnetLabs.nl> <7c31c8cc0911081924v1337c5c9k2df3da4852d2d4f0@mail.gmail.com> To: Wilmer van der Gaast X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] credit card problem at ANA hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:30:44 -0000 My Maestro card (ec-card) worked for retrieving banknotes from the ATM at a 7-11. 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(host-18-33.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.18.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm1205918gxk.5.2009.11.08.19.34.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:34:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF78DCE.5090609@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:34:38 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roque Gagliano References: <4AF73F88.8060408@digium.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Sunday soccer report. X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:34:24 -0000 Hi Roque Thank you for your report. And I'm worried about your golden precious leg. Is it OK now? Futsal Soccer Futbal freaks Shoes, shirt and pants are available to rent. So feel free to join us to play Futsal on Wednesday and Thursday from 19:30 to 21:00. Meet up at ANA lobby at 19:10 getting on a taxi to share! With printed the map http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ietf/map_futsal.jpg See also http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ GO From: Roque Gagliano Date: Mon Nov 09 2009 08:45:23 GMT+0900 > Hi, > > Yesterday 7 brave ietfers went to play indoor soccer. In order to made > an even number we imported a local player. 4 continent represented which > made a good mixed. Unfortunately, only 6 players made it to the end of > the game, pictures will be provided. > > It was a lot of fun, so thanks to all the participants. > > Roque > > Some tips for the following soccer days: > - Print driving directions. Our taxi driver had to ask to at least > three people to have an idea how to get to the place. > - It is not really a footsal court but a synthetic grass court (what > we call "futbol 5" in south america). So, the ball is not as small as in > futsal and it dribbles. > - Renting leather shoes is a good option for 300 yens. From antti.makela@tkk.fi Sun Nov 8 19:44:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB083A6A95 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:44:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.014 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.014 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.285, BAYES_40=-0.185, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION=0.156] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e14K-LVWNdE3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:44:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-4.hut.fi (smtp-4.hut.fi [130.233.228.94]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725E33A6A5E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:44:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (katosiko.hut.fi [130.233.228.115]) by smtp-4.hut.fi (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id nA93ioA9017283 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:44:50 +0200 Received: from smtp-4.hut.fi ([130.233.228.94]) by localhost (katosiko.hut.fi [130.233.228.115]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18279-67-2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:44:49 +0200 (EET) Received: from vipunen.hut.fi (vipunen.hut.fi [130.233.228.9]) by smtp-4.hut.fi (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id nA93iVc5017239 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:44:31 +0200 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:44:31 +0200 (EET) From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Antti_M=E4kel=E4?= To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 1.99 (SOC 1136 2008-08-12) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-TKK-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.1.2-hutcc at katosiko.hut.fi Subject: [76attendees] Cotton Yukatas X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:44:27 -0000 Hi, Anyone know a shop where you could get cotton yukatas (in the 2000-5000 yen range?) I saw a couple of small shops on Hondori and they were (at least judging by the windows) selling kimonos and yukatas going at 30000+ yen. Looking for something a bit more casual.. Thanks. -- Antti From Joe.Hildebrand@webex.com Sun Nov 8 20:17:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A7B28C0E5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:17:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.949 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.949 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.650, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DqLz5JLvlW42 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:17:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw2.webex.com (gw2.webex.com [64.68.122.209]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D09D3A6A5E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:17:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from SRV-EXSC03.webex.local ([192.168.252.198]) by gw2.webex.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:18:21 -0800 Received: from 10.21.91.228 ([10.21.91.228]) by SRV-EXSC03.webex.local ([192.168.252.200]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:17:35 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:17:34 +0900 From: Joe Hildebrand To: Ole Jacobsen , "Kevin P. Fleming" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] RFID experiment suggestions Thread-Index: Acpg84/WeG4OVQ72lUOcbx+Om8l4RQ== In-Reply-To: IM-ID: xmpp:jhildebrand@corp.jabber.com Presence-ID: xmpp:jhildebrand@corp.jabber.com Jabber-ID: jhildebrand@corp.jabber.com Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2009 04:18:21.0434 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC1C5DA0:01CA60F3] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment suggestions X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:17:57 -0000 I've found that if you grab the reader, and move it to where you badge is, you don't bang the mic into your eye. On 11/9/09 9:54 AM, "Ole Jacobsen" wrote: > What we need is those retractable thingys for our badge holders, as > seen at RIPE and APNIC meetings. Another "sponsorship opportunity" > I guess :-) > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees -- Joe Hildebrand From dworley@nortel.com Sun Nov 8 20:20:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688C928C0E2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:20:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.549 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.549 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.050, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 77stWStsVE9h for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:20:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from zcars04e.nortel.com (zcars04e.nortel.com [47.129.242.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674A83A692D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:20:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com (zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com [47.140.202.46]) by zcars04e.nortel.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id nA94KuN13040; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:20:56 GMT Received: from [47.141.31.138] ([47.141.31.138]) by zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:20:55 -0500 From: "Dale Worley" To: "Kevin P. Fleming" In-Reply-To: <4AF75359.2050309@digium.com> References: <4AF73F88.8060408@digium.com> <4AF7494D.8080809@sri.com> <4AF75359.2050309@digium.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Nortel Networks Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:20:52 -0500 Message-Id: <1257740452.4458.0.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-5.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2009 04:20:55.0906 (UTC) FILETIME=[082EEC20:01CA60F4] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Anyone interested in a Kobe steak dinner? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:20:51 -0000 On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 08:25 +0900, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > My thoughts exactly. It looks like we have at least four for tonight, so > let's go with that plan. Meet at the ANA concierge desk at 8:00PM and > we'll head out from there. I'll be there! Dale From kpfleming@digium.com Sun Nov 8 20:21:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED27128C0F5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:21:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.38 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.38 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.072, BAYES_00=-2.599, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7NRqyS4pM-0T for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:21:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.digium.com (mail.digium.com [216.207.245.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0A228C13C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:21:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiler.digium.internal ([10.19.29.150] helo=jupiler.digium.com) by mail.digium.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Lkt-0008CZ-En for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:21:27 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C88DFC829 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:21:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from jupiler.digium.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jupiler.digium.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AX7MUMPd5gu3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:21:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from [133.93.24.160] (host-24-160.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.160]) (Authenticated sender: kpfleming) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E0CDFC828 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:21:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4AF798C3.7060609@digium.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:21:23 +0900 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" Organization: Digium, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: 76attendees@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=05FB8DB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment suggestions X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:21:03 -0000 Joe Hildebrand wrote: > I've found that if you grab the reader, and move it to where you badge is, > you don't bang the mic into your eye. Also, there is a 'blank' RFID tag hanging below the reader; if there is nobody in line behind you to speak when you are done, swipe that tag in front of the reader so the system won't display that you are still the speaker. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Sun Nov 8 20:27:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7615728C158 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:27:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.727 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.727 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.319, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P6xqKs70lztZ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:27:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.sri.com (mail1.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10BD28C156 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:27:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [133.93.17.164] ([unknown] [133.93.17.164]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KST00JMJR2EBT90@mail.sri.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:27:52 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <4AF79A4D.2010400@sri.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:27:57 +0900 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: Dale Worley References: <4AF73F88.8060408@digium.com> <4AF7494D.8080809@sri.com> <4AF75359.2050309@digium.com> <1257740452.4458.0.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> In-reply-to: <1257740452.4458.0.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Anyone interested in a Kobe steak dinner? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:27:29 -0000 look for the guy with the gray beard. On 11/9/2009 1:20 PM, Dale Worley wrote: > On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 08:25 +0900, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > >> My thoughts exactly. It looks like we have at least four for tonight, so >> let's go with that plan. Meet at the ANA concierge desk at 8:00PM and >> we'll head out from there. >> > > I'll be there! > > Dale > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com From eburger@standardstrack.com Sun Nov 8 20:32:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42EA228C0E5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:32:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.47 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.47 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.129, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MYXmbjQcb0R6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:32:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from gs19.inmotionhosting.com (gs19b.inmotionhosting.com [66.117.3.189]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9130A28B797 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:32:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-40-25.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.40.25]) by gs19.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N7LwB-0000yL-Gx; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:33:07 -0800 Message-Id: <41C52680-2C46-4432-8064-8A0C805E65D1@standardstrack.com> From: Eric Burger To: Ed Jankiewicz In-Reply-To: <4AF79A4D.2010400@sri.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:33:07 +0900 References: <4AF73F88.8060408@digium.com> <4AF7494D.8080809@sri.com> <4AF75359.2050309@digium.com> <1257740452.4458.0.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <4AF79A4D.2010400@sri.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs19.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Anyone interested in a Kobe steak dinner? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:32:47 -0000 That narrows it down :-) On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Ed Jankiewicz wrote: > look for the guy with the gray beard. > > On 11/9/2009 1:20 PM, Dale Worley wrote: >> On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 08:25 +0900, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: >> >>> My thoughts exactly. It looks like we have at least four for >>> tonight, so >>> let's go with that plan. Meet at the ANA concierge desk at 8:00PM >>> and >>> we'll head out from there. >>> >> >> I'll be there! >> >> Dale >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> >> > > -- > Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International > Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA > Standards Engineering Branch > 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From loa@pi.nu Sun Nov 8 20:36:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A1428B797 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:36:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.855 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.855 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.745, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HZQX4FvzXCrf for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:36:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEBE3A67CF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:36:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [133.93.17.10] (host-17-10.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.17.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5478ED404F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:37:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AF79C75.30902@pi.nu> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:37:09 +0100 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Indian Pale Ale in Hiroshima? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:36:56 -0000 Anyone that know if there are a place to get a good IPA, preferable Smutty Nose, Bells 2 Hearted or Hoop otin' (AVBC). /Loa -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From kpfleming@digium.com Sun Nov 8 20:37:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A55D28C157 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:37:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.367 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.367 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZnDlp-VnIh2Z for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:37:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.digium.com (mail.digium.com [216.207.245.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C1728C154 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:37:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiler.digium.internal ([10.19.29.150] helo=jupiler.digium.com) by mail.digium.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N7M17-0008Jj-G8 for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:38:13 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6D3DFC828 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:38:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from jupiler.digium.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jupiler.digium.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OHtEt1aFL6cc for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:38:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from [133.93.24.160] (host-24-160.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.160]) (Authenticated sender: kpfleming) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE23DFC827 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:38:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4AF79CB2.20700@digium.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:38:10 +0900 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" Organization: Digium, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <4AF73F88.8060408@digium.com> <4AF7494D.8080809@sri.com> <4AF75359.2050309@digium.com> <1257740452.4458.0.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <4AF79A4D.2010400@sri.com> <41C52680-2C46-4432-8064-8A0C805E65D1@standardstrack.com> In-Reply-To: <41C52680-2C46-4432-8064-8A0C805E65D1@standardstrack.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=05FB8DB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Anyone interested in a Kobe steak dinner? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:37:58 -0000 Eric Burger wrote: > That narrows it down :-) Slightly better than 'look for the guy with the ponytail'. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org From dworley@nortel.com Sun Nov 8 20:43:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729EB28C14C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:43:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.562 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.562 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OWuru3wJ5C5u for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:43:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from zcars04e.nortel.com (zcars04e.nortel.com [47.129.242.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6C73A679F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:43:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com (zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com [47.140.202.46]) by zcars04e.nortel.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id nA94hJN13804; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:43:19 GMT Received: from [47.141.31.138] ([47.141.31.138]) by zrtphxs1.corp.nortel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:43:18 -0500 From: "Dale Worley" To: Richard Barnes In-Reply-To: <88ac5c710911081705o911a7abx7b2ef43655bb848@mail.gmail.com> References: <94C0E9F1-94A4-4C04-A236-37909CF10CBE@cisco.com> <0E896617-85A1-4DD0-8290-810C8E5F8463@cisco.com> <2E6BC2D3-70F6-4FB5-807A-FB10E3EBD8EC@fugue.com> <88ac5c710911081705o911a7abx7b2ef43655bb848@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Nortel Networks Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:43:15 -0500 Message-Id: <1257741795.4458.2.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-5.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2009 04:43:19.0456 (UTC) FILETIME=[29006200:01CA60F7] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:43:12 -0000 On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 10:05 +0900, Richard Barnes wrote: > If the other viewpoint is "militant libertarian", is this "militant > fascist"? (Corporatist? ISPist?) An ideology called "ISPism" has a nice ring to it! Dale From sekiya@wide.ad.jp Sun Nov 8 20:43:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD85928C144 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:43:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.277 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.277 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m3nmq4JKMAEL for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:43:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from azusa.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (azusa.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [130.69.251.120]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312943A679F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:43:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from 59.214.180.203.d.iijmobile.jp.wide.ad.jp (host-24-21.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.21]) by azusa.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE598280AE for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:43:54 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:43:54 +0900 Message-ID: From: Yuji Sekiya To: 76attendees@ietf.org User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL/10.7 Emacs/22.2.50 (i386-apple-darwin9.4.0) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organization: The University of Tokyo MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:43:30 -0000 Dear IET76 Attendees, This is Yuji Sekiya, IETF NOC. Someone's laptop announces Rogue IPv6 RA on SSID:ietf network. We send fake RAs with routerlifetime=0, so your computer may not be affected, however, the Rogue RAs are still announced. MAC addresses of laptop which announces Rogue RA are 00:1b:77:bc:a4:e6 00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2 Please STOP announcement of Rogue RA !!! -- Yuji Sekiya From masa@fumi.org Sun Nov 8 20:52:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C78328C162 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:52:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.139 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.139 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.629, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y9-aYqRpAxeu for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:52:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta.nao.ac.jp (mta1-ext.mtk.nao.ac.jp [133.40.6.5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D311328C0DF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:52:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from anago.fumi.org (sslvpn-39-226.mtk.nao.ac.jp [133.40.39.226]) by mta.nao.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACACE632F; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:52:42 +0900 (JST) Received: by anago.fumi.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 51B262B455; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:52:40 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:52:40 +0900 From: Masafumi OE To: Yuji Sekiya Message-ID: <20091109045240.GI9355@anago.fumi.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:52:17 -0000 Dear IET76 Attendees, On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 01:43:54PM +0900, Yuji Sekiya wrote: > > Dear IET76 Attendees, > This is Yuji Sekiya, IETF NOC. > > Someone's laptop announces Rogue IPv6 RA on > SSID:ietf network. > > We send fake RAs with routerlifetime=0, so your computer > may not be affected, however, the Rogue RAs are still announced. > > MAC addresses of laptop which announces Rogue RA are > > 00:1b:77:bc:a4:e6 is located in CATTLEA-East. > 00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2 is located in CATTLEA-East. > Please STOP announcement of Rogue RA !!! > -- Masafumi OE, Astronomy Data Center, NAOJ. From alh-ietf@tndh.net Sun Nov 8 20:57:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985AC3A6932 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:57:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.715 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.715 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.395, BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_BOGUSMX=1.482, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, HOST_EQ_STATICB=1.372, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4gruDTdakt5b for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:57:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.tndh.net (static-66-15-163-216.bdsl.verizon.net [66.15.163.216]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6FD3A690F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:57:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.tndh.net ([192.168.123.10] helo=eagle) by smtp.tndh.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1N7MJ4-0008x3-90; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:56:49 -0800 From: "Tony Hain" To: "'Masafumi OE'" , "'Yuji Sekiya'" References: <20091109045240.GI9355@anago.fumi.org> In-Reply-To: <20091109045240.GI9355@anago.fumi.org> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:56:47 +0900 Message-ID: <019c01ca60f9$0b81ce60$22856b20$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acpg+H2rhvc2Ahr6SYeiAv5XmjTD/AAADc+g Content-Language: en-us Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: alh-ietf@tndh.net List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:57:41 -0000 As seen from Acacia West the broken machine is: bogus RA's from Dell_cd:e2:4d (00:11:43:cd:e2:4d) Prefix 2002:855d:13c9:9:: Prefix fec0:0:0:9:: > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Masafumi OE > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:53 PM > To: Yuji Sekiya > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA > > > Dear IET76 Attendees, > > On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 01:43:54PM +0900, > Yuji Sekiya wrote: > > > > > Dear IET76 Attendees, > > This is Yuji Sekiya, IETF NOC. > > > > Someone's laptop announces Rogue IPv6 RA on > > SSID:ietf network. > > > > We send fake RAs with routerlifetime=0, so your computer > > may not be affected, however, the Rogue RAs are still announced. > > > > MAC addresses of laptop which announces Rogue RA are > > > > 00:1b:77:bc:a4:e6 > is located in CATTLEA-East. > > > 00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2 > is located in CATTLEA-East. > > > Please STOP announcement of Rogue RA !!! > > > > > -- > Masafumi OE, Astronomy Data Center, NAOJ. > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From frodek@tele.no Sun Nov 8 21:00:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342F528C195 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:00:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bPd4Y4GHR7Gx for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:00:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from gorgon.tele.no (gorgon.tele.no [193.156.17.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368C428C17A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:00:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (gorgon.tele.no [IPv6:2001:700:800:2000::3]) by gorgon.tele.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7652EC84; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:47:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AF7A1D9.1030000@tele.no> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:00:09 +0900 From: Frode Kileng User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loa Andersson References: <4AF79C75.30902@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4AF79C75.30902@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Indian Pale Ale in Hiroshima? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:00:17 -0000 Don't know about the IPA's you're listing but tasted a great Japanese IPA Saturday at Golden Garden. It's called W-IPA and I think it's brewed by the Minoi brewery from Osaka. frodek Loa Andersson wrote: > Anyone that know if there are a place to get a good IPA, > preferable Smutty Nose, Bells 2 Hearted or Hoop otin' (AVBC). > > /Loa > > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From evyncke@cisco.com Sun Nov 8 21:01:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2473428C16B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:01:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.247 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.247 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.752, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id us2XWsfyDmuy for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:01:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE94B28C0D6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:01:07 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: ams-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ak0AAI4x90qQ/uCWe2dsb2JhbACbeAEBFiQGpwmWQoQ+BIFoeA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,705,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="53921796" Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.150]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2009 05:01:20 +0000 Received: from xbh-ams-102.cisco.com (xbh-ams-102.cisco.com [144.254.73.132]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA951K5f017500; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:01:20 GMT Received: from xmb-ams-110.cisco.com ([144.254.74.85]) by xbh-ams-102.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:01:20 +0100 Received: from 10.70.230.155 ([10.70.230.155]) by XMB-AMS-110.cisco.com ([144.254.74.85]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:01:20 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:01:20 +0900 From: evyncke To: , "'Masafumi OE'" , "'Yuji Sekiya'" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA Thread-Index: Acpg+H2rhvc2Ahr6SYeiAv5XmjTD/AAADc+gAAA+CTI= In-Reply-To: <019c01ca60f9$0b81ce60$22856b20$@net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2009 05:01:20.0623 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD6D5FF0:01CA60F9] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:01:11 -0000 Interesting to see ULA on WiFi indeed ;-) On 9/11/09 13:56, "Tony Hain" wrote: > As seen from Acacia West the broken machine is: > > bogus RA's from Dell_cd:e2:4d (00:11:43:cd:e2:4d) > > Prefix 2002:855d:13c9:9:: > Prefix fec0:0:0:9:: > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees- >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Masafumi OE >> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:53 PM >> To: Yuji Sekiya >> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA >> >> >> Dear IET76 Attendees, >> >> On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 01:43:54PM +0900, >> Yuji Sekiya wrote: >> >>> >>> Dear IET76 Attendees, >>> This is Yuji Sekiya, IETF NOC. >>> >>> Someone's laptop announces Rogue IPv6 RA on >>> SSID:ietf network. >>> >>> We send fake RAs with routerlifetime=0, so your computer >>> may not be affected, however, the Rogue RAs are still announced. >>> >>> MAC addresses of laptop which announces Rogue RA are >>> >>> 00:1b:77:bc:a4:e6 >> is located in CATTLEA-East. >> >>> 00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2 >> is located in CATTLEA-East. >> >>> Please STOP announcement of Rogue RA !!! >>> >> >> >> -- >> Masafumi OE, Astronomy Data Center, NAOJ. >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From rhe@nosc.ja.net Sun Nov 8 21:01:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4490C28C0F5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:01:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.649 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.649 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.350, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_57=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B5gBCPjtvIIl for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:01:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from nosc.ja.net (nosc.ja.net [IPv6:2001:630:0:40::14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB2F28C182 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:01:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from vpn-134.ja.net ([128.86.24.134]) by nosc.ja.net with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N7MNz-00007U-R8 for 76attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:01:52 +0000 Message-ID: <4AF7A23D.60209@nosc.ja.net> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:01:49 +0000 From: Rob Evans User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:01:30 -0000 > MAC addresses of laptop which announces Rogue RA are > > 00:1b:77:bc:a4:e6 > 00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2 > > Please STOP announcement of Rogue RA !!! As I've just gone through this with someone that was sending RAs earlier, it seems as though if you've enabled internet connection sharing on Windows XP in the past, it may still be sending RAs even if ICS is disabled. From a command prompt: netsh interface ipv6 show interface level=verbose Look through the output for "Sends Router Advertisements : Yes", and for those interfaces do: set interface "Wireless Network Connection" advertise=disabled Replace "Wireless Network Connection" with the name of the relevant interface. I doubt this is persistent. Rob From jason_livingood@cable.comcast.com Sun Nov 8 21:09:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEAE3A6932 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:09:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.396 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.396 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wzh5YcC1cxBc for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:09:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pacdcimo01.cable.comcast.com (PacdcIMO01.cable.comcast.com [24.40.8.145]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0343A68FA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:09:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ([10.52.116.30]) by pacdcimo01.cable.comcast.com with ESMTP id 5503620.60078819; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:09:47 -0500 Received: from PACDCEXCMB04.cable.comcast.com ([24.40.15.86]) by PAOAKEXCSMTP01.cable.comcast.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:09:47 -0500 Received: from 133.93.17.128 ([133.93.17.128]) by PACDCEXCMB04.cable.comcast.com ([24.40.15.86]) via Exchange Front-End Server webmail.comcast.com ([24.40.8.152]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:09:46 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:09:44 +0900 From: Jason Livingood To: Richard Barnes , Fred Baker Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment Thread-Index: Acpg+tl2Ad+g1wDPEEWWr2ASbztVsw== In-Reply-To: <88ac5c710911081621j59316bbfi16567c241f51a7b2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2009 05:09:47.0560 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB95D280:01CA60FA] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] A Net Neutrality comment X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:09:26 -0000 +1 on this being an interesting study. As for Richard's comment, speaking from personal experience, involvement in application throttling at any level of scale and customer diversity can at best be described as "problematic." ;-) Jason On 11/9/09 9:21 AM, "Richard Barnes" wrote: > Hey Fred, > > Thanks for this little study. Note that this doesn't necessarily > argue for *application* throttling, as much as for *user* throttling. > The network might want to prevent the bittorrent user from interfering > with you, but the he can be left free to shut down his own VPN if he > wants to. > > --Richard > > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Fred Baker wrote: >> A remark to those who take a militant libertarian view of Net Neutrality, >> and those of ledbat and tcpm who have difficulty understanding why >> transports should tune to the knee (just enough of data outstanding, aka >> cwnd, to maintain the maximum goodput) as opposed to the cliff (the knee >> plus the maximum depth of the bottleneck queue, at which point throughput >> has not increased but loss has increased). >> >> Saturday night, as I do many nights that I spend at hotels, I ran a ping >> study to characterize the network. It was obviously massively >> overprovisioned - it was difficult to register RTT variance in excess of a >> millisecond trans-pacific between Japan and the US. I did this again last >> night. The network behavior as measured from my room was equally stable >> until about 11:58 PM; at that point, someone fired up something huge, my >> guess being something that uses bittorrent, delay dramatically increased, >> and my VPN went down within a couple of minutes. When this happens, >> customers call ISPs and ISPs start throttling applications, because the >> applications are doing horrible things to the ISPs' customers. >> >> The attached are a case in point. From stig@venaas.com Sun Nov 8 21:22:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841FA28C0E5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:22:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.535 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.535 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5LZCh52wXMG3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:22:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ufisa.uninett.no (ufisa.uninett.no [IPv6:2001:700:1:2:158:38:152:126]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499473A68C4 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:22:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.21.74.111] (128-107-239-233.cisco.com [128.107.239.233]) by ufisa.uninett.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E91521CA9; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:22:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AF7A6DE.1080308@venaas.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:21:34 -0800 From: Stig Venaas User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frode Kileng References: <4AF79C75.30902@pi.nu> <4AF7A1D9.1030000@tele.no> In-Reply-To: <4AF7A1D9.1030000@tele.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Indian Pale Ale in Hiroshima? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:22:34 -0000 Frode Kileng wrote: > Don't know about the IPA's you're listing but tasted a great Japanese > IPA Saturday at Golden Garden. It's called W-IPA and I think it's brewed > by the Minoi brewery from Osaka. I would be very surprised to find e.g. the excellent Smutty Nose here. I've done some investigations and my hopes are not very high for craft beers here. If anyone knows where to find Japanese craft beers, please speak up. Two really great Japanese microbreweries are Hitachino and Kadoya. They are available outside Japan too. Stig > frodek > > Loa Andersson wrote: >> Anyone that know if there are a place to get a good IPA, >> preferable Smutty Nose, Bells 2 Hearted or Hoop otin' (AVBC). >> >> /Loa >> >> -- >> >> >> Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com >> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu >> Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 >> +46 767 72 92 13 >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From rsf@ns.live555.com Sun Nov 8 21:32:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E713A6ACC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:32:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.76 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.76 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.350, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w8hSbMEAF57g for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:32:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.live555.com (ns.live555.com [4.79.217.242]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B6B83A6A83 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:32:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.live555.com (localhost.live555.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns.live555.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA95X4gh025926 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:33:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: (from rsf@localhost) by ns.live555.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nA95X4Go025925; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:33:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rsf) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:32:28 +0900 To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Ross Finlayson Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: [76attendees] Purpose of blue/grey "PASPY" card (for social event?) X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:32:11 -0000 When I picked up my ticket for the social event, I was also given a blue/grey plastic "PASPY" card. What is this for? From alh-ietf@tndh.net Sun Nov 8 21:33:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96443A6A83 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:33:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.101 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.481, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_BOGUSMX=1.482, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, HOST_EQ_STATICB=1.372, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e+AppLDvDA2e for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:33:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.tndh.net (static-66-15-163-216.bdsl.verizon.net [66.15.163.216]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66E33A68FA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:33:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.tndh.net ([192.168.123.10] helo=eagle) by smtp.tndh.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Mrc-00091x-D0; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:32:32 -0800 From: "Tony Hain" To: "'evyncke'" , "'Masafumi OE'" , "'Yuji Sekiya'" References: <019c01ca60f9$0b81ce60$22856b20$@net> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:32:28 +0900 Message-ID: <01b201ca60fe$082c2170$18846450$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acpg+H2rhvc2Ahr6SYeiAv5XmjTD/AAADc+gAAA+CTIAARLVIA== Content-Language: en-us Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: alh-ietf@tndh.net List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:33:24 -0000 That is not ula, it is site-local. Both of those prefixes are in the same RA > -----Original Message----- > From: evyncke [mailto:evyncke@cisco.com] > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:01 PM > To: alh-ietf@tndh.net; 'Masafumi OE'; 'Yuji Sekiya' > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA > > Interesting to see ULA on WiFi indeed ;-) > > > On 9/11/09 13:56, "Tony Hain" wrote: > > > As seen from Acacia West the broken machine is: > > > > bogus RA's from Dell_cd:e2:4d (00:11:43:cd:e2:4d) > > > > Prefix 2002:855d:13c9:9:: > > Prefix fec0:0:0:9:: > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees- > >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Masafumi OE > >> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:53 PM > >> To: Yuji Sekiya > >> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA > >> > >> > >> Dear IET76 Attendees, > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 01:43:54PM +0900, > >> Yuji Sekiya wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Dear IET76 Attendees, > >>> This is Yuji Sekiya, IETF NOC. > >>> > >>> Someone's laptop announces Rogue IPv6 RA on > >>> SSID:ietf network. > >>> > >>> We send fake RAs with routerlifetime=0, so your computer > >>> may not be affected, however, the Rogue RAs are still announced. > >>> > >>> MAC addresses of laptop which announces Rogue RA are > >>> > >>> 00:1b:77:bc:a4:e6 > >> is located in CATTLEA-East. > >> > >>> 00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2 > >> is located in CATTLEA-East. > >> > >>> Please STOP announcement of Rogue RA !!! > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Masafumi OE, Astronomy Data Center, NAOJ. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 76attendees mailing list > >> 76attendees@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From wilmer@google.com Sun Nov 8 21:38:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85723A69A0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:38:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.729 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.729 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.248, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8TCaIWAH1E+X for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out.google.com (smtp-out.google.com [216.239.33.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B663A68C4 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:38:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from zps77.corp.google.com (zps77.corp.google.com [172.25.146.77]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id nA95cps7010737 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:38:52 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; t=1257745132; bh=HUy4nWcERaTDDPwcpNvrx7BqYIk=; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID:Subject:From: To:Cc:Content-Type; b=gOE2Ej5n5MgQE4jHwKtqz3SgHhVJXKU86WmDBEXbgaSf1e2TjJSTeJ1w1gcBldhck wcDRkUcodDp8O2vGpBPog== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=beta; d=google.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to: cc:content-type:x-system-of-record; b=fScyiurpW8xyy+3Uuv1WpO2TyaddheGxq5HBpTLpaPDeKL6/c28oiXwiNIo/D8209 FPLQdZcEdMhawahW2ROCA== Received: from bwz26 (bwz26.prod.google.com [10.188.26.26]) by zps77.corp.google.com with ESMTP id nA95cmkJ009825 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:38:49 -0800 Received: by bwz26 with SMTP id 26so3078534bwz.27 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:38:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.160.90 with SMTP id m26mr8042098bkx.63.1257745127985; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:38:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091108222402.GA21078@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> References: <1257689426.3979.19.camel@khone.us.nortel.com> <5F8DB291-9DFE-464D-96DB-9996D4E531B8@xs4all.nl> <8CC2426F-A8DD-4607-8AF5-DB83D7C4D9E7@fugue.com> <20091108222402.GA21078@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:38:47 +0900 Message-ID: <7c31c8cc0911082138o607bfd20i171a69246b5ef84f@mail.gmail.com> From: Wilmer van der Gaast To: Stephane Bortzmeyer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-System-Of-Record: true Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Warnings re: Oriental Hotel X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:38:29 -0000 2009/11/9 Stephane Bortzmeyer : > > I thought it was common in Japan, often cited for its IPv6 > progress. You mean that, outside of the IETF, there is no IPv6 in > hotel rooms in Japan (for instance for wedding parties)? My laptop received an IPv6 address in the hostel in Tokyo I was staying at last week. Sadly, the default gateway didn't actually seem too happy to actually forward any of my traffic which made it a lot less exciting. :-( Wilmer. From scott.brim@gmail.com Sun Nov 8 21:39:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCC13A68C4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:39:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.56 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.56 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.039, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i2c2-a+qJLcs for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:39:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0E03A6820 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:39:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so602842qwb.31 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:39:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4CClY4lgag4kWfSdHtetnejRIrnB++2FlJMi1Swt9E0=; b=kNmhpWTN8/gYlf9iJYHIPrRbqx+LRY2MAkB1HHWDdSwMZr82zplUT5O4SXTXPo5WCw uTl9Pe70Dv67pFZkW4l8AgPNnbGM+N1pErP9bi1nLIfhCNjyElcCN6P3WNeyYrJfLVIy 4LmbSCiUAVd4wOeW01SvqBKAnyXIfYKEayM7s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=hZ3rrjuz83E+zlt9FomIokAblbGVizvnCM6ogRsiqPXq/EKILbVjWEtU2bJgvHGWiZ FPL4rPe5vAwGNwytf8sfVHTNxLQdRygXGmpGmJJbihPIwmHIrmcr95c+xnb9IFwWuJxk SsslqbGJ9EgLpoKxDbdpyIz3y5XVlJL5bV5Cs= Received: by 10.224.116.133 with SMTP id m5mr3858506qaq.214.1257745198261; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:39:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-24-56.meeting.ietf.org (198-135-0-233.cisco.com [198.135.0.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm2386466qyk.15.2009.11.08.21.39.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:39:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF7AB29.9080309@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:39:53 +0900 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Finlayson References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Purpose of blue/grey "PASPY" card (for social event?) X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:39:37 -0000 Ross Finlayson allegedly wrote on 11/09/2009 2:32 PM: > When I picked up my ticket for the social event, I was also given a > blue/grey plastic "PASPY" card. What is this for? Should be in your documentation. It gives you an initial 500¥ to use on local public transportation (of all kinds afaik). You can add more to it. 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(host-16-203.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 14sm1302328gxk.14.2009.11.08.21.43.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:43:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF7AC0E.6070608@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:43:42 +1300 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Errors in RFID database?? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:43:28 -0000 In my RFID records I find: RFC Editor Tutorial Acacia West 2009-11-08 12:51:05 Not correct, I was presenting in Acacia East EAP Method Update WG Cattleya East 2009-11-09 14:23:26 Not correct, I was at the microphone in Orchid East I think some of the readers are not where the database believes they are. Did anyone else notice errors like this? Brian From osamu@wide.ad.jp Sun Nov 8 21:55:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69173A68CB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:55:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.104 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.104 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RNpQ-S-R8MH4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:55:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B1D93A684C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:55:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::16:224:36ff:feed:1303] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:224:36ff:feed:1303]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 441D04C0A0; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:55:46 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-20-266072109; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQ2ZCPBsoQiAbJEI9JBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <4AF7AC0E.6070608@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:55:46 +0900 Message-Id: References: <4AF7AC0E.6070608@gmail.com> To: Brian E Carpenter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Errors in RFID database?? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:55:24 -0000 --Apple-Mail-20-266072109 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Thank you for the information. we will check soon. osamu On 2009/11/09, at 14:43, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > In my RFID records I find: > > RFC Editor Tutorial Acacia West 2009-11-08 12:51:05 > > Not correct, I was presenting in Acacia East > > EAP Method Update WG Cattleya East 2009-11-09 14:23:26 > > Not correct, I was at the microphone in Orchid East > > I think some of the readers are not where the database > believes they are. 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<76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:59:06 -0600 Received: from [135.70.189.172] (vpn-135-70-189-172.vpn.mwst.att.com[135.70.189.172]) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with ESMTP id <20091109055904gw10014quie> (Authid: tony); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:59:05 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [135.70.189.172] Message-ID: <4AF7AFA7.8060800@att.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:59:03 -0500 From: Tony Hansen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <4AF7AC0E.6070608@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF7AC0E.6070608@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Errors in RFID database?? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:58:53 -0000 yes, I was in Cattleya West at the ISOC AC yesterday and it showed up as Newcomer's Training Acacia East 2009-11-08 16:31:33 Tony Hansen tony@att.com Brian E Carpenter wrote: > In my RFID records I find: > > RFC Editor Tutorial Acacia West 2009-11-08 12:51:05 > > Not correct, I was presenting in Acacia East > > EAP Method Update WG Cattleya East 2009-11-09 14:23:26 > > Not correct, I was at the microphone in Orchid East > > I think some of the readers are not where the database > believes they are. Did anyone else notice errors like this? From rdv@sfc.wide.ad.jp Sun Nov 8 22:14:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598513A6ACC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:14:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.833 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.833 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.473, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RELAY_IS_203=0.994, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION=0.156] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lylzQUMXItfN for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:14:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F023A68CF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:14:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.2.3] (host-144-179.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.144.179]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D39254C0B1; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:15:00 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: From: Rodney Van Meter To: =?UTF-8?Q?Antti_M=C3=A4kel=C3=A4?= In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-84-267224861; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:14:58 +0900 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Cotton Yukatas X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:14:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail-84-267224861 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Antti M=C3=A4kel=C3=A4 wrote: > Hi, > > Anyone know a shop where you could get cotton yukatas (in the =20 > 2000-5000 yen range?) I saw a couple of small shops on Hondori and =20 > they were (at least judging by the windows) selling kimonos and =20 > yukatas going at 30000+ yen. Looking for something a bit more casual.. > In the lobby of the Sun Route Hotel, they are selling them for 2,000 =20 yen. 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charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Ben Campbell In-Reply-To: <4AF7AB29.9080309@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:16:10 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4AF7AB29.9080309@gmail.com> To: Scott Brim X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 133.93.24.29 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Purpose of blue/grey "PASPY" card (for social event?) X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:15:51 -0000 It was also described as a supplemental ticket for the social event. =20 I'm not sure what that means. On Nov 9, 2009, at 2:39 PM, Scott Brim wrote: > Ross Finlayson allegedly wrote on 11/09/2009 2:32 PM: >> When I picked up my ticket for the social event, I was also given a >> blue/grey plastic "PASPY" card. What is this for? > > Should be in your documentation. It gives you an initial 500=A5 to =20= > use on > local public transportation (of all kinds afaik). You can add more =20= > to it. > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From randy@psg.com Sun Nov 8 22:19:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324643A6974 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:19:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lhPhiVexE5lo for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:19:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF933A6906 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:19:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-40-47.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.40.47]) by ran.psg.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Nb5-000Kx2-Ad; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:19:27 +0000 Message-ID: <4AF7B46D.60306@psg.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:19:25 +0900 From: Randy Bush User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Campbell References: <4AF7AB29.9080309@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Purpose of blue/grey "PASPY" card (for social event?) X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:19:05 -0000 Ben Campbell wrote: > It was also described as a supplemental ticket for the social event. I'm > not sure what that means. possibly how one gets to the social randy From hiromi@inetcore.com Sun Nov 8 22:32:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0203A6889 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:32:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.818 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.818 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, HOST_EQ_NE_JP=2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A7HxbHC4O9-X for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:32:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from inc.inetcore.com (p0245a2.tokyff01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [121.2.69.162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C43D3A67F6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:32:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-17-237.meeting.ietf.org (host-17-237.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.17.237]) by inc.inetcore.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C73DB2CACCD for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:32:37 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: From: Ruri Hiromi To: 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <4C9E405D-84DE-4648-B3AC-119BA93FA964@inetcore.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:32:37 +0900 References: <4C9E405D-84DE-4648-B3AC-119BA93FA964@inetcore.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [76attendees] could not change my profile from the web page X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:32:49 -0000 I confirmed this with the original information still appears in the top frame and where I should see for update is the 2nd frame ... (>_<) For All WiFi testers, please note that there are 2 section and changes appears in 2nd frame. Regards, On 2009/11/09, at 10:25, Ruri Hiromi wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to modify my profile at https://tagexp001.ietf76.jp/user/, > but in vain. > I simply input my new organization name and press "save" then the > original information page showed again. > Was I wrong in operation? Let me know the correct operation, please. > ------------------------------- Ruri Hiromi Intec NetCore, Inc. / Keio university hiromi@inetcore.com From jordi.palet@consulintel.es Sun Nov 8 22:38:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1A33A68CF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:38:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_57=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6cZOpdeq9597 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:38:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from consulintel.es (mail.consulintel.es [213.172.48.142]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDC23A6889 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:38:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nowsp; d=consulintel.es; s=MDaemon; t=1257752260; x=1258357060; i=jordi.palet@consulintel.es; q=dns; h=DomainKey-Signature:Received:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To: Message-ID:Thread-Topic:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:Mime-version: Content-type:Content-transfer-encoding:Reply-To; b=iNCxIO0bYbfR+h jy0H93C7xucCEC92tpIQPXszGAk2V/Bx1AaK8ecHtxMAJhhbvNilk+rngRDZFKtr XCa58+xjYd1QVKgegyuCCJDUWEoNIn9Tx2fYUelkO5bGIV3a1jLpKiwD8D+RMSG/ 9AsXNpod0sr12MYnXzYlTEcLFv++k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=MDaemon; d=consulintel.es; c=simple; q=dns; h=from:message-id; b=mboOXmjcr4+nbJ2kW+HEh/Plf2UBp/qDjY4V+nHrE46HsQZmKl/tXDg8WJMYXZX/01+UFQMtdoz5T4pRpyBRNj/1hlik7vbNkzvXb4yr0dTGR/RcLZn6/TyNnAmSWxI1qE+iudhtJ2ljk70BgGDphNmJFS46FycE+pJgIY8iU9M=; Received: from [133.93.17.6] by consulintel.es (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.5.R) with ESMTP id md50003454358.msg for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:37:26 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:38:44 +0900 From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ To: <76attendees@ietf.org> Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA Thread-Index: AcphB0hZkECN26MOR+aVxkXtz6T2mA== In-Reply-To: <4AF7A23D.60209@nosc.ja.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: jordi.palet@consulintel.es X-HashCash: 1:20:091109:76attendees@ietf.org::UdguiTB6dpQ2oNaj:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000KqbB X-MDRemoteIP: 133.93.17.6 X-Return-Path: jordi.palet@consulintel.es X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Spam-Processed: consulintel.es, Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:37:29 +0100 X-MDAV-Processed: consulintel.es, Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:37:32 +0100 Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: jordi.palet@consulintel.es List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:38:50 -0000 Using netsh you typically have the option to add: store=persistent (persistent across reboots) or store=active (valid only until you reboot) Other tips when you configured 6to4 in your laptop and want to "undo" it, available for several operating systems at: http://www.ipv6tf.org/index.php?page=using/connectivity/6to4 Regards, Jordi > De: Rob Evans > Responder a: <76attendees-bounces@ietf.org> > Fecha: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:01:49 +0000 > Para: <76attendees@ietf.org> > Asunto: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA > >> MAC addresses of laptop which announces Rogue RA are >> >> 00:1b:77:bc:a4:e6 >> 00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2 >> >> Please STOP announcement of Rogue RA !!! > > As I've just gone through this with someone that was sending RAs > earlier, it seems as though if you've enabled internet connection > sharing on Windows XP in the past, it may still be sending RAs even if > ICS is disabled. > > From a command prompt: > netsh > interface ipv6 > show interface level=verbose > > Look through the output for "Sends Router Advertisements : Yes", and for > those interfaces do: > > set interface "Wireless Network Connection" advertise=disabled > > Replace "Wireless Network Connection" with the name of the relevant > interface. > > I doubt this is persistent. > > Rob > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees ********************************************** The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org Bye 6Bone. 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From edj.etc@gmail.com Sun Nov 8 22:48:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B918A28C194 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:48:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qy-43Obp7YnC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:48:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90C328C12B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:48:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 4so100326eyf.51 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:48:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Kp5lfNIFNVTMh1/KoLqIPc4N+FvY3MNr5lHZxAVxzAs=; b=WirJQFUi2wOiQRr14uIhyBf76NelARDeY528+qmjnEwux6ze3wtxruygCSNppRZQ1g IBUtu9IWWIZFrTnZm1nmf8XIctGLXxT70/Ov+TJ6t4FNyxQ4zhToKSOJsrwsmLRQ9tC5 YMHGbdcvdl9nCYPs17xb/Cx+xxDCWmuvgx2hY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=OieLlrZCXF5of5RJW16WKZYcEsiSBDjraHd+BHgxCkZVElESb1DarIPW+05F3Jf0wQ mjUiWnTXkqFXXRJo868X5x8Ne06BO6BJ072yN1E5v5f9A+B4885z3BCJWzqwACpKRHfw iV7VwabgFovZ4k188Jw9gdCINIwRd+yI52szU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.24.22 with SMTP id t22mr7587410ebb.27.1257749335116; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:48:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF7AC0E.6070608@gmail.com> References: <4AF7AC0E.6070608@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:48:55 -0500 Message-ID: <9e8bc9820911082248s5b5dbf1bkbdb79d4405867e0e@mail.gmail.com> From: Ed Juskevicius To: Brian E Carpenter Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0d66a560c780477ea9667 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Errors in RFID database?? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:48:33 -0000 --000e0ce0d66a560c780477ea9667 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My RFID records for today (so far) are far from complete. I have attended three sessions so far, but my "Session Participation Records" are completely blank. I asked a question during the Apps Open Area meeting this morning, which did get captured in the RFID database, albeit under a heading of "Session Presentation Records". Definitely a few bugs to be worked out! Regards, Ed J. On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Brian E Carpenter < brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > In my RFID records I find: > > RFC Editor Tutorial Acacia West 2009-11-08 12:51:05 > > Not correct, I was presenting in Acacia East > > EAP Method Update WG Cattleya East 2009-11-09 14:23:26 > > Not correct, I was at the microphone in Orchid East > > I think some of the readers are not where the database > believes they are. Did anyone else notice errors like this? > > Brian > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > --000e0ce0d66a560c780477ea9667 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My RFID records for today (so far) are far from complete.=A0 I have at= tended three sessions so far, but my "Session Participation Records&qu= ot; are completely blank.=A0 I asked a question during the Apps Open Area m= eeting this morning, which=A0did get captured=A0in the RFID database, albei= t under a heading of "Session Presentation Records".
=A0
Definitely a few bugs to be worked out!
=A0
Regards,
=A0
=A0
Ed=A0 J.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Brian E Carpent= er <bri= an.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
In my RFID records I find:
RFC Editor Tutorial =A0 =A0 Acacia West =A0 =A0 2009-11-08 12:51:05
Not correct, I was presenting in Acacia East

EAP Method Update WG =A0 =A0Cattleya East =A0 2009-11-09 14:23:26
Not correct, I was at the microphone in Orchid East

I think some o= f the readers are not where the database
believes they are. Did anyone e= lse notice errors like this?

=A0 =A0Brian
_______________________________________________
76atte= ndees mailing list
76attendees@i= etf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees

--000e0ce0d66a560c780477ea9667-- From hinoue@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp Sun Nov 8 22:52:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3013A6915 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:52:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.769 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.769 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pv8K+Z8dxT3a for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:52:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.40.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254203A69B0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:52:35 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: a5f21604-b7c6aae000004184-39-4af7bc4cec49 Received: from oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.42.120]) by (Symantec Brightmail Gateway sbg1-outbound) with SMTP id 36.56.16772.C4CB7FA4; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:53:00 +0900 (JST) Received: from [133.93.16.49] (host-16-49.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.49]) by oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8053E3BC002 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:53:00 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:52:55 +0900 From: Hiroyuki INOUE To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-Id: <20091109155254.9ADE.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.51.05 [ja] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: [76attendees] No drink in the Wedding Room (Terminal Room) X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:52:36 -0000 Hi, Please make sure not to have a drink nor food in the Wedding Room (terminal room @4F), because the room is for religious place (Shinden in Japanese). You can drink (not recommended) in another terminal room (Matsu @4F), which is opened in 24 hours. Thank you. -- Hiroyuki INOUE Graduate School of Information Sciences, Hiroshima City University From touch@ISI.EDU Sun Nov 8 23:03:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD3128C198 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:03:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eUtpLWfubaWF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from nitro.isi.edu (nitro.isi.edu [128.9.208.207]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC6128C193 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:03:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.9.176.218] (c2-vpn06.isi.edu [128.9.176.218]) (authenticated bits=0) by nitro.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA972L0W012718 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:02:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF7BE7C.3010005@isi.edu> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:02:20 -0800 From: Joe Touch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Juskevicius References: <4AF7AC0E.6070608@gmail.com> <9e8bc9820911082248s5b5dbf1bkbdb79d4405867e0e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e8bc9820911082248s5b5dbf1bkbdb79d4405867e0e@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner-ID: nA972L0W012718 X-ISI-4-69-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: touch@isi.edu Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Errors in RFID database?? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:03:32 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ed Juskevicius wrote: > My RFID records for today (so far) are far from complete. Errors in mine too. Missing IntArea Shows me in EAP Method Update WG at times I was elsewhere, and my card is shielded when not used at a reader (i.e., these should not be aliases). Joe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkr3vnsACgkQE5f5cImnZrsnmwCg/kVetwmy7I9s3PjIYxxzgrZJ LQMAoII6mJAlMdFeoqeFHxseVu7x0paQ =WfHX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From osamu@wide.ad.jp Sun Nov 8 23:21:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF5B3A6AFA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:21:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.224 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.224 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.120, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qhgl+YFk47GV for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:21:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7DE3A69ED for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:21:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-16-33.meeting.ietf.org (host-16-33.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.33]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D38274C0B9; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:21:24 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-26-271210510; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQ2ZCPBsoQiAbJEI9JBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <4AF7BE7C.3010005@isi.edu> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:21:24 +0900 Message-Id: <94CA48A8-CE19-4DE2-8597-9A5CEBCD5E3E@wide.ad.jp> References: <4AF7AC0E.6070608@gmail.com> <9e8bc9820911082248s5b5dbf1bkbdb79d4405867e0e@mail.gmail.com> <4AF7BE7C.3010005@isi.edu> To: Joe Touch X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Errors in RFID database?? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:21:04 -0000 --Apple-Mail-26-271210510 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Joe, Thank you for inform me! we missing Room ID on E-bluesheet readers. we will fix soon! osamu On 2009/11/09, at 16:02, Joe Touch wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Ed Juskevicius wrote: >> My RFID records for today (so far) are far from complete. > > Errors in mine too. > > Missing IntArea > > Shows me in EAP Method Update WG at times I was elsewhere, and my card > is shielded when not used at a reader (i.e., these should not be > aliases). > > Joe > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkr3vnsACgkQE5f5cImnZrsnmwCg/kVetwmy7I9s3PjIYxxzgrZJ > LQMAoII6mJAlMdFeoqeFHxseVu7x0paQ > =WfHX > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > --Apple-Mail-26-271210510 Content-Disposition: attachment; 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b=Hfg9A/83VGv70RF980940M+452cOYfWM35HcKbW2fiLXi2gLc/jEMOeH8J0YMO/lJ DQbOSlCK57iO7qy/70sba1K5TguxIroalprFktVphiDcAU+hHcjciDvtowCNjYwJuO bLccHXX7nAXejPdSoBcCVq0yyJ3ci/qbPHUjyxCk= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20091108233049.05bcfd88@elandsys.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:30:54 -0800 To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: SM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [76attendees] First-time attendees to the IETF X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:30:32 -0000 Hi All, A few first-time attendees to the IETF are going out to dinner tonight. 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Regards, -sm From osamu@wide.ad.jp Sun Nov 8 23:41:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCFE3A6B0E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:41:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.204 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.204 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4uYNaTXg66l9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF943A6810 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:41:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-16-33.meeting.ietf.org (host-16-33.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.33]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0F4E54C09E; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:42:11 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-31-272456501; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQ2ZCPBsoQiAbJEI9JBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <4AF7BE7C.3010005@isi.edu> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:42:10 +0900 Message-Id: <3DE0C732-FB72-4221-A990-ABFB9F9547D2@wide.ad.jp> References: <4AF7AC0E.6070608@gmail.com> <9e8bc9820911082248s5b5dbf1bkbdb79d4405867e0e@mail.gmail.com> <4AF7BE7C.3010005@isi.edu> To: Joe Touch X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Errors in RFID database?? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:41:48 -0000 --Apple-Mail-31-272456501 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Joe We fixed the missing records. could you check, if you appreciate ? osamu On 2009/11/09, at 16:02, Joe Touch wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Ed Juskevicius wrote: >> My RFID records for today (so far) are far from complete. > > Errors in mine too. > > Missing IntArea > > Shows me in EAP Method Update WG at times I was elsewhere, and my card > is shielded when not used at a reader (i.e., these should not be > aliases). > > Joe > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkr3vnsACgkQE5f5cImnZrsnmwCg/kVetwmy7I9s3PjIYxxzgrZJ > LQMAoII6mJAlMdFeoqeFHxseVu7x0paQ > =WfHX > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > --Apple-Mail-31-272456501 Content-Disposition: attachment; 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b=cn6eWYnHg0OfLAek0RkCA2pycYxH8exVt7CTkfnLwj6gfiynYpBBdpnAxx3elaOQz 55xbIJuMdEXfUPqJS+TZYHvQo6/VCz7HOM5o6KFWSJSnsJsC17lh2RKT6keHTARGaK Cimjlka0yTGVxq4d4/4bFHEBVkaJTlSnyHshwlSk= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20091108230444.05bb4b30@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:08:36 -0800 To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: SM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [76attendees] First-time attendees to the IETF X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:44:36 -0000 Hi All, A few first-time attendees to the IETF are going out to dinner tonight. We will be meeting at 8:00 p.m. in the lobby of the Mitsui Garden Hotel. If any first-time attendees wish to join us, please email me off-list. Regards, -sm From jmauch@us.ntt.net Sun Nov 8 23:46:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493FC28C1CE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:46:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YOp98zOuABvO for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:46:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from puck.nether.net (puck.nether.net [IPv6:2001:418:3f4::5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E77A28C107 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:46:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-24-48.meeting.ietf.org (host-24-48.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.48]) (authenticated bits=0) by puck.nether.net (8.14.3/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nA97lC07015180 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:47:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jmauch@us.ntt.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Jared Mauch In-Reply-To: <3DE0C732-FB72-4221-A990-ABFB9F9547D2@wide.ad.jp> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:46:49 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4AF7AC0E.6070608@gmail.com> <9e8bc9820911082248s5b5dbf1bkbdb79d4405867e0e@mail.gmail.com> <4AF7BE7C.3010005@isi.edu> <3DE0C732-FB72-4221-A990-ABFB9F9547D2@wide.ad.jp> To: =?utf-8?B?5Lit5p2RIOS/rg==?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (puck.nether.net [204.42.254.5]); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:47:14 -0500 (EST) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org, Joe Touch Subject: Re: [76attendees] Errors in RFID database?? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:46:03 -0000 Should we be able to see our session attendance scans immediately? - Jared On Nov 9, 2009, at 2:42 AM, =E4=B8=AD=E6=9D=91 =E4=BF=AE wrote: > > Joe > > We fixed the missing records. > could you check, if you appreciate ? > > osamu > > > On 2009/11/09, at 16:02, Joe Touch wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> Ed Juskevicius wrote: >>> My RFID records for today (so far) are far from complete. >> >> Errors in mine too. >> >> Missing IntArea >> >> Shows me in EAP Method Update WG at times I was elsewhere, and my =20 >> card >> is shielded when not used at a reader (i.e., these should not be =20 >> aliases). >> >> Joe >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAkr3vnsACgkQE5f5cImnZrsnmwCg/kVetwmy7I9s3PjIYxxzgrZJ >> LQMAoII6mJAlMdFeoqeFHxseVu7x0paQ >> =3DWfHX >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From thierry.ernst@inria.fr Sun Nov 8 23:47:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D5B28C1D6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:47:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION=0.156] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xXe1GSPiL2By for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:47:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFE928C193 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:47:42 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,706,1249250400"; d="vcf'?scan'208";a="36400468" Received: from vpn-rocq-141.inria.fr (HELO host-19-159.meeting.ietf.org) ([128.93.42.141]) by mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 09 Nov 2009 08:48:06 +0100 Message-ID: <4AF7C92D.7050208@inria.fr> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:47:57 +0100 From: Thierry Ernst Organization: INRIA User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: 76attendees@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010905000708010702080408" Subject: Re: [76attendees] Cotton Yukatas X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:47:43 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010905000708010702080408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> >> Anyone know a shop where you could get cotton yukatas (in the >> 2000-5000 yen range?) I saw a couple of small shops on Hondori and >> they were (at least judging by the windows) selling kimonos and >> yukatas going at 30000+ yen. Looking for something a bit more casual.. >> > > In the lobby of the Sun Route Hotel, they are selling them for 2,000 > yen. One style only. I guess you are referring to the model one ware after taking a bath (furo), white with blue prints (I say it too in the Sun Route hotel lobby). Nice and colorful yukatas are probably a better option. I think you won't have any difficulty to find cheap yukatas at the airport. For those flying via Narita for sure, but before the security gate - they sale a lot of Japanese craft (or souvenirs if you like). Don't know about Kansai. You may also visit department stores, but since we are not in summer seasons not sure they are still selling these. More certainly, I'm pretty sure you will find a bunch of them in Miyajima (nearby island with red temple gate in the sea) were they is a full street selling Japanese crafts and souvenirs (information about Miyajima is in your booklet). 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(host-16-203.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm1259100gxk.3.2009.11.08.23.59.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:59:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF7CBD2.7030004@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:59:14 +1300 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?5Lit5p2RIOS/rg==?= References: <4AF7AC0E.6070608@gmail.com> <9e8bc9820911082248s5b5dbf1bkbdb79d4405867e0e@mail.gmail.com> <4AF7BE7C.3010005@isi.edu> <3DE0C732-FB72-4221-A990-ABFB9F9547D2@wide.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: <3DE0C732-FB72-4221-A990-ABFB9F9547D2@wide.ad.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Errors in RFID database?? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:58:59 -0000 Much better now, but this one is still wrong: EAP Method Update WG Cattleya East 2009-11-09 14:23:26 I was actually in Orchid East then. Brian On 2009-11-09 20:42, =E4=B8=AD=E6=9D=91 =E4=BF=AE wrote: >=20 > Joe >=20 > We fixed the missing records. > could you check, if you appreciate ? >=20 > osamu >=20 >=20 > On 2009/11/09, at 16:02, Joe Touch wrote: >=20 >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> Ed Juskevicius wrote: >>> My RFID records for today (so far) are far from complete. >> >> Errors in mine too. >> >> Missing IntArea >> >> Shows me in EAP Method Update WG at times I was elsewhere, and my card= >> is shielded when not used at a reader (i.e., these should not be >> aliases). >> >> Joe >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAkr3vnsACgkQE5f5cImnZrsnmwCg/kVetwmy7I9s3PjIYxxzgrZJ >> LQMAoII6mJAlMdFeoqeFHxseVu7x0paQ >> =3DWfHX >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> >=20 >=20 > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From touch@ISI.EDU Mon Nov 9 00:00:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6563A69F0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:00:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.078, BAYES_00=-2.599, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION=0.156] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D+cZOLwM+wDn for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:00:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from nitro.isi.edu (nitro.isi.edu [128.9.208.207]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1843A695C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:00:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.9.176.218] (c2-vpn06.isi.edu [128.9.176.218]) (authenticated bits=0) by nitro.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA97xVtx025608 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:59:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF7CBE2.6090700@isi.edu> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:59:30 -0800 From: Joe Touch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thierry Ernst References: <4AF7C92D.7050208@inria.fr> In-Reply-To: <4AF7C92D.7050208@inria.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner-ID: nA97xVtx025608 X-ISI-4-69-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: touch@isi.edu Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Cotton Yukatas X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:00:31 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Many moons ago someone explained that, when it comes to yukata, white/blue = mens colorful = womens Perhaps a local can confirm? Joe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkr3y+IACgkQE5f5cImnZruuBACeMj2BZ8o1tmX37qfUNoCeiVu5 YUYAn0aHrmvDmDq3vykjTUanwm/i6OOO =Xa9I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From osamu@wide.ad.jp Mon Nov 9 00:02:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B184C3A6AFA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:02:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.19 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.19 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.086, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KchNuD+Qz38F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:02:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F7C3A67A7 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:02:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-16-33.meeting.ietf.org (host-16-33.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.33]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 61C014C0AD; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:02:29 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-35-273674952; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQ2ZCPBsoQiAbJEI9JBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <4AF7CBD2.7030004@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:02:29 +0900 Message-Id: References: <4AF7AC0E.6070608@gmail.com> <9e8bc9820911082248s5b5dbf1bkbdb79d4405867e0e@mail.gmail.com> <4AF7BE7C.3010005@isi.edu> <3DE0C732-FB72-4221-A990-ABFB9F9547D2@wide.ad.jp> <4AF7CBD2.7030004@gmail.com> To: Brian E Carpenter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Errors in RFID database?? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:02:07 -0000 --Apple-Mail-35-273674952 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp; format=flowed; delsp=yes we are still missing EAP method Update WG swapped IntArea data. I will fix soon. osamu On 2009/11/09, at 16:59, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Much better now, but this one is still wrong: > > EAP Method Update WG Cattleya East 2009-11-09 14:23:26 > > I was actually in Orchid East then. > > Brian > > On 2009-11-09 20:42, $BCfB<(B $B=$(B wrote: >> >> Joe >> >> We fixed the missing records. >> could you check, if you appreciate ? >> >> osamu >> >> >> On 2009/11/09, at 16:02, Joe Touch wrote: >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> >>> >>> Ed Juskevicius wrote: >>>> My RFID records for today (so far) are far from complete. >>> >>> Errors in mine too. >>> >>> Missing IntArea >>> >>> Shows me in EAP Method Update WG at times I was elsewhere, and my >>> card >>> is shielded when not used at a reader (i.e., these should not be >>> aliases). >>> >>> Joe >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) >>> >>> iEYEARECAAYFAkr3vnsACgkQE5f5cImnZrsnmwCg/kVetwmy7I9s3PjIYxxzgrZJ >>> LQMAoII6mJAlMdFeoqeFHxseVu7x0paQ >>> =WfHX >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 76attendees mailing list >>> 76attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > --Apple-Mail-35-273674952 Content-Disposition: attachment; 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Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:04:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.815 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.815 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.163, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id prQaskN+Owir for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:04:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F7D3A6B09 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:04:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by pwi6 with SMTP id 6so194447pwi.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:04:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.74.19 with SMTP id w19mr801757wfa.56.1257753862884; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:04:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF73F88.8060408@digium.com> References: <4AF73F88.8060408@digium.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:04:22 -0800 Message-ID: <21ef2c1c0911090004t1fcb0d36y1f116e09242e655a@mail.gmail.com> From: vijay gill To: "Kevin P. Fleming" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Anyone interested in a Kobe steak dinner? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:04:05 -0000 On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > Since I've come all the way to Japan, I feel it would be rude of me to > not partake of one of Japan's most excellent products :-) > > If anyone else is interested in such an event, I'd be open to go tonight > (Monday) or Tuesday (as I'm not participating in the social event). > > Of course, that would also require that we find a restaurant in or near > Hiroshima offering this specialty... anyone aware of one? So who are all signed up for tuesday night? I am interested as well if there is a group for tomorrow. /vijay > > -- > Kevin P. Fleming > Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies > 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA > skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com > Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From gen@mozilla.com Mon Nov 9 00:07:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855DF28C1D5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:07:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.157 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.157 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION=0.156] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OZR829mbbVEi for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:07:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm-mail03.mozilla.org (dm-mail03.mozilla.org [63.245.208.213]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B326528C1CC for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:07:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.238.52] (gw0.mozilla.or.jp [202.221.217.78]) (Authenticated sender: gen@mozilla.com) by dm-mail03.mozilla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A1F4AED70; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:07:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <19C1679E-AD6B-4B9E-9F62-5F318992CB8B@mozilla.com> From: Gen Kanai To: Joe Touch In-Reply-To: <4AF7CBE2.6090700@isi.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:07:55 +0900 References: <4AF7C92D.7050208@inria.fr> <4AF7CBE2.6090700@isi.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Cotton Yukatas X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:07:41 -0000 On Nov 9, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Joe Touch wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Many moons ago someone explained that, when it comes to yukata, > > white/blue = mens > colorful = womens > > Perhaps a local can confirm? Generally speaking this is true. Men usually do not wear very colorful yukata or kimono. However white/blue is not the only color choice for men's yukata: http://images.google.co.jp/images?q=%E7%94%B7%E6%80%A7%E3%80%80%E6%B5%B4%E8%A1%A3&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi Gen Kanai From thierry.ernst@inria.fr Mon Nov 9 00:08:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B06428C18B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:08:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.147 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.147 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.946, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION=0.156] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ijN4VuiXJ4a9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:08:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8A63A6A0F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:08:39 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,706,1249250400"; d="vcf'?scan'208";a="36401868" Received: from vpn-rocq-141.inria.fr (HELO host-19-159.meeting.ietf.org) ([128.93.42.141]) by mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 09 Nov 2009 09:09:03 +0100 Message-ID: <4AF7CE16.3010505@inria.fr> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:08:54 +0100 From: Thierry Ernst Organization: INRIA User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Touch References: <4AF7C92D.7050208@inria.fr> <4AF7CBE2.6090700@isi.edu> In-Reply-To: <4AF7CBE2.6090700@isi.edu> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030102020501060304050005" Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Cotton Yukatas X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:08:41 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030102020501060304050005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe Touch wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Many moons ago someone explained that, when it comes to yukata, > > white/blue = mens > colorful = womens > > Perhaps a local can confirm? > By colorful I meant with respect to "white with blue print" which is unisex for a matter of logistics in hotels. The ones with bright colors and flowers are of course for women, but there are very nice ones in blue, grey, black and various prints for men. Check google, e.g. http://www.jlifeinternational.com/apparel/yukata/men1/y_men1_e.html Thierry --------------030102020501060304050005 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="thierry_ernst.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="thierry_ernst.vcf" YmVnaW46dmNhcmQNCmZuOlRoaWVycnkgRXJuc3QNCm46RXJuc3Q7VGhpZXJyeQ0Kb3JnOklO UklBIFJvY3F1ZW5jb3VydDtJTUFSQSAtIExBUkENCmFkcjo7Ozs7OztGcmFuY2UNCnRlbDt3 b3JrOiszMyAxIDM5IDYzIDU5IDMwDQp0ZWw7ZmF4OiszMyAxIDM5IDYzIDU0IDkxDQp0ZWw7 Y2VsbDorMzMgNiA3NiA1NiAyNSA5Ng0KdXJsOmh0dHA6Ly93d3cubGFyYS5wcmQuZnINCnZl cnNpb246Mi4xDQplbmQ6dmNhcmQNCg0K --------------030102020501060304050005-- From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Mon Nov 9 00:33:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623FA3A6AF2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:33:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.991 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.991 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.055, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TBGDtmHnOEpU for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:33:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.sri.com (mail1.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7523A6AEA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:33:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [133.93.17.164] ([unknown] [133.93.17.164]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KSU00K3R2GNX7E0@mail.sri.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:34:00 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <4AF7D3FF.30908@sri.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:34:07 +0900 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] Monday 8:00 PM "kobe" dinner X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:33:37 -0000 the concierge tells me they don't have Kobe beef in Hiroshima, although several people have told me they find it hard to believe. she recommended a teppanyaki restaurant, Sakon, within walking distance on Chuodori Ave. -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com From jari.arkko@piuha.net Mon Nov 9 00:54:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A929D3A6B10 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:54:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.584 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.584 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PurfCy1BXaNa for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:54:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from p130.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8843A6B0A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:54:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13363D492C; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:54:44 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at piuha.net Received: from p130.piuha.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p130.piuha.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O1rE5nOZU8i1; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:54:43 +0200 (EET) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3841D4926; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:54:42 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4AF7D8D1.7060707@piuha.net> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:54:41 +0900 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eggert References: <4AF76257.1090900@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4AF76257.1090900@stpeter.im> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment suggestions X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:54:36 -0000 Good suggestions, Lars. Also, am I the only who neglected to read the manual before trying to use the system? I didn't realize that I have to opt-in... it might have been helpful if the system had displayed "unregistered ietf participant" when presented with a card that has not been opted-in yet... What the system does now is simply nothing. Its hard to tell if that was a layer 1 problem or merely incorrect configuration. Jari From kpfleming@digium.com Mon Nov 9 00:56:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA27B3A6A99 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:56:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.347 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.347 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.040, BAYES_00=-2.599, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t7pgXMLyCQtD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:56:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.digium.com (mail.digium.com [216.207.245.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06673A6844 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:56:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiler.digium.internal ([10.19.29.150] helo=jupiler.digium.com) by mail.digium.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Q36-0001xF-J3 for 76attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:56:32 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE80DFC828 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:56:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from jupiler.digium.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jupiler.digium.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4vpqpt4g7RKe for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:56:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from [133.93.144.178] (host-144-178.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.144.178]) (Authenticated sender: kpfleming) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1991DFC827 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:56:31 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4AF7D93D.8030100@digium.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:56:29 +0900 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" Organization: Digium, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <4AF7D3FF.30908@sri.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF7D3FF.30908@sri.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=05FB8DB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Monday 8:00 PM "kobe" dinner X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:56:07 -0000 Ed Jankiewicz wrote: > the concierge tells me they don't have Kobe beef in Hiroshima, although > several people have told me they find it hard to believe. > > she recommended a teppanyaki restaurant, Sakon, within walking distance > on Chuodori Ave. Well, that's certainly disappointing. That sounds fine for tonight, but now I'm wondering whether making the train trip to Kobe itself (75 minutes each way) would be worthwhile. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org From emcho@sip-communicator.org Mon Nov 9 00:56:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22493A69FC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:56:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gg9B9mwtdLeF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:56:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f192.google.com (mail-yx0-f192.google.com [209.85.210.192]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020293A6844 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:56:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so3052900yxe.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:57:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.129.31 with SMTP id g31mr194261ann.153.1257757020116; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:57:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF7D3FF.30908@sri.com> References: <4AF7D3FF.30908@sri.com> From: Emil Ivov Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:56:40 +0900 Message-ID: To: Ed Jankiewicz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Monday 8:00 PM "kobe" dinner X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:56:37 -0000 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Ed Jankiewicz wrote: > she recommended a teppanyaki restaurant, Sakon, within walking distance on Yes, I also heard that teppanyaki is what Hiroshima is famous for. Emil From jmauch@us.ntt.net Mon Nov 9 01:10:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1363A6B1D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:10:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.524 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Sd0+xl00mO6m for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:10:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from puck.nether.net (puck.nether.net [IPv6:2001:418:3f4::5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0583A6B1C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:10:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-144-102.meeting.ietf.org (host-144-102.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.144.102]) (authenticated bits=0) by puck.nether.net (8.14.3/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nA99BceK039642 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:11:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jmauch@us.ntt.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Jared Mauch In-Reply-To: <4AF7D93D.8030100@digium.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:11:16 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <930CB825-463D-4C08-9C0E-6D59FD1610DD@us.ntt.net> References: <4AF7D3FF.30908@sri.com> <4AF7D93D.8030100@digium.com> To: "Kevin P. Fleming" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (puck.nether.net [204.42.254.5]); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:11:41 -0500 (EST) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Monday 8:00 PM "kobe" dinner X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:10:40 -0000 On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:56 AM, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > Ed Jankiewicz wrote: >> the concierge tells me they don't have Kobe beef in Hiroshima, >> although >> several people have told me they find it hard to believe. >> >> she recommended a teppanyaki restaurant, Sakon, within walking >> distance >> on Chuodori Ave. > > Well, that's certainly disappointing. That sounds fine for tonight, > but > now I'm wondering whether making the train trip to Kobe itself (75 > minutes each way) would be worthwhile. Hiroshima beef was also suggested: http://r.gnavi.co.jp/y113700/ - Jared From falk@bbn.com Mon Nov 9 01:24:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADB13A6950 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:24:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.392 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.392 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.207, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XFQjLBm9XnWu for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:24:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.bbn.com (smtp.bbn.com [128.33.1.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F893A68D3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:24:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.89.252.87] (helo=host-24-83.meeting.ietf.org) by smtp.bbn.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7QUN-00076N-B2; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:24:43 -0500 Message-ID: <4AF7DFDA.9070004@bbn.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:24:42 +0900 From: Aaron Falk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Jankiewicz References: <4AF7D3FF.30908@sri.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF7D3FF.30908@sri.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Monday 8:00 PM "kobe" dinner X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:24:19 -0000 Ed Jankiewicz wrote: > the concierge tells me they don't have Kobe beef in Hiroshima, > although several people have told me they find it hard to believe. > > she recommended a teppanyaki restaurant, Sakon, within walking > distance on Chuodori Ave. The only time I've had Kobe beef (in the states) was at a shabu-shabu restaurant [1]. You might inquire if that is an option here. --aaron [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabu-shabu From keiji@sfc.keio.ac.jp Mon Nov 9 01:40:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D093A67FB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:40:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WG57bhs1XFLH for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:40:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gw2.sfc.keio.ac.jp (mail-gw2.sfc.keio.ac.jp [133.27.4.128]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22EA3A6842 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:40:46 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAANy90qFGwXO/2dsb2JhbADaXIQ+BIJg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,707,1249225200"; d="scan'208";a="7711374" Received: from imap06.sfc.keio.ac.jp ([133.27.5.206]) by mail-gw2.sfc.keio.ac.jp with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2009 18:41:10 +0900 Received: from host-32-143.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.32.143]) by imap06.sfc.keio.ac.jp with esmtpsa (Exim 4.69 #1 (Debian-smtps)) id 1N7QkI-0005W1-80; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:41:10 +0900 Message-ID: <4AF7E3B0.9050204@sfc.keio.ac.jp> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:41:04 +0900 From: Keiji Takeda User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Falk References: <4AF7D3FF.30908@sri.com> <4AF7DFDA.9070004@bbn.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF7DFDA.9070004@bbn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Monday 8:00 PM "kobe" dinner X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:40:47 -0000 http://gourmet.yahoo.co.jp/0005598927/ The site (in Japanese) is saying they serve Kobe-beef in Hiroshima. Since I am new to Hiroshima not sure it's quality. Keiji > > Ed Jankiewicz wrote: >> the concierge tells me they don't have Kobe beef in Hiroshima, >> although several people have told me they find it hard to believe. >> >> she recommended a teppanyaki restaurant, Sakon, within walking >> distance on Chuodori Ave. > > The only time I've had Kobe beef (in the states) was at a shabu-shabu > restaurant [1]. You might inquire if that is an option here. > > --aaron > > > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabu-shabu > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From yaacov.weingarten@nsn.com Mon Nov 9 02:09:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B263A696D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:09:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.078, BAYES_00=-2.599, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION=0.156] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1vqO0gFrAuNg for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:09:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (demumfd001.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.32]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44593A67FB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:09:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.56]) by demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id nA9A9aY5025064 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:09:36 +0100 Received: from demuexc024.nsn-intra.net (demuexc024.nsn-intra.net [10.159.32.11]) by demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id nA9A9a5n017223; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:09:36 +0100 Received: from DEMUEXC030.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.128.57]) by demuexc024.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:09:36 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:09:09 +0100 Message-ID: <62D9AC1F11702146A0387CBFF3A8CD3D01C09274@DEMUEXC030.nsn-intra.net> In-Reply-To: <4AF7CE16.3010505@inria.fr> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Cotton Yukatas Thread-Index: AcphE+0RI9/7BJKjSP+yw6GIHNziKwAEH0pQ References: <4AF7C92D.7050208@inria.fr> <4AF7CBE2.6090700@isi.edu> <4AF7CE16.3010505@inria.fr> From: "Weingarten, Yaacov (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)" To: "ext Thierry Ernst" , "Joe Touch" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2009 10:09:36.0437 (UTC) FILETIME=[BDCA9E50:01CA6124] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Cotton Yukatas X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:09:14 -0000 According to the "Kimono Encyclopedia" at http://www.japanesekimono.com/mens_kimono.htm there are some male kimonos that are colorful and the design are "male motifs" on a blue background. -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Thierry Ernst Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:09 To: Joe Touch Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Cotton Yukatas Joe Touch wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Many moons ago someone explained that, when it comes to yukata, > > white/blue =3D mens > colorful =3D womens > > Perhaps a local can confirm? > =20 By colorful I meant with respect to "white with blue print" which is=20 unisex for a matter of logistics in hotels. The ones with bright colors=20 and flowers are of course for women, but there are very nice ones in=20 blue, grey, black and various prints for men. Check google, e.g.=20 http://www.jlifeinternational.com/apparel/yukata/men1/y_men1_e.html Thierry From sekiya@wide.ad.jp Mon Nov 9 02:20:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88E53A6B38 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:20:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.377 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.377 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.200, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E1yu0jhyU1yj for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:20:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from azusa.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (azusa.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [130.69.251.120]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF88C3A69FD for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from 59.214.180.203.d.iijmobile.jp.wide.ad.jp (host-24-21.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.21]) by azusa.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8301D8280AE for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:20:28 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:20:27 +0900 Message-ID: From: Yuji Sekiya To: 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL/10.7 Emacs/22.2.50 (i386-apple-darwin9.4.0) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organization: The University of Tokyo MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:20:03 -0000 At Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:43:54 +0900, Yuji Sekiya wrote: Nowcomer... 00:16:cb:b5:c8:fe on SSID:ietf network. -- Yuji Sekiya > Dear IET76 Attendees, > This is Yuji Sekiya, IETF NOC. > > Someone's laptop announces Rogue IPv6 RA on > SSID:ietf network. > > We send fake RAs with routerlifetime=0, so your computer > may not be affected, however, the Rogue RAs are still announced. > > MAC addresses of laptop which announces Rogue RA are > > 00:1b:77:bc:a4:e6 > 00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2 > > Please STOP announcement of Rogue RA !!! > > -- Yuji Sekiya > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From masa@fumi.org Mon Nov 9 02:26:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4923C28C1DE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:26:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.825 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.825 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.315, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BYowE42DOCVg for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:26:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta.nao.ac.jp (mta1-ext.mtk.nao.ac.jp [133.40.6.5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713A128C1DA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:26:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from anago.fumi.org (sslvpn-39-226.mtk.nao.ac.jp [133.40.39.226]) by mta.nao.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C31E6375; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:27:09 +0900 (JST) Received: by anago.fumi.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 22D6F2B455; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:27:06 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:27:06 +0900 From: Masafumi OE To: Yuji Sekiya Message-ID: <20091109102706.GC9199@anago.fumi.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:26:44 -0000 The client location is front-right side in ORCHID EAST. -- Masafumi OE On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 07:20:27PM +0900, Yuji Sekiya wrote: > At Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:43:54 +0900, > Yuji Sekiya wrote: > > Nowcomer... > > 00:16:cb:b5:c8:fe > > on SSID:ietf network. > > -- Yuji Sekiya > > > > > Dear IET76 Attendees, > > This is Yuji Sekiya, IETF NOC. > > > > Someone's laptop announces Rogue IPv6 RA on > > SSID:ietf network. > > > > We send fake RAs with routerlifetime=0, so your computer > > may not be affected, however, the Rogue RAs are still announced. > > > > MAC addresses of laptop which announces Rogue RA are > > > > 00:1b:77:bc:a4:e6 > > 00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2 > > > > Please STOP announcement of Rogue RA !!! > > > > -- Yuji Sekiya > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees -- Masafumi OE, Astronomy Data Center, NAOJ. From kimoto@soum.co.jp Mon Nov 9 02:43:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C993A697B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:43:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.078 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.078 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.078, BAYES_50=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION=0.156] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fo6Ib9AcFSB2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:43:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate.soum.co.jp (gate.soum.co.jp [IPv6:2001:240:10e:0:230:48ff:fe81:e40a]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89F43A680D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:42:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.soum.co.jp (hoth.soum.co.jp [IPv6:2001:240:c4:1:203:baff:fea1:6471]) by gate.soum.co.jp (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nA9AhL3B000595; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:43:21 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from kimoto@soum.co.jp) Received: from localhost (luke.soum.co.jp [IPv6:2001:240:c4:1:203:baff:fe80:54a5]) by mail.soum.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA9AhJHE026756; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:43:19 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:43:19 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091109.194319.92622266.kimoto@soum.co.jp> To: yaacov.weingarten@nsn.com From: Masahiko KIMOTO In-Reply-To: <62D9AC1F11702146A0387CBFF3A8CD3D01C09274@DEMUEXC030.nsn-intra.net> References: <4AF7CBE2.6090700@isi.edu> <4AF7CE16.3010505@inria.fr> <62D9AC1F11702146A0387CBFF3A8CD3D01C09274@DEMUEXC030.nsn-intra.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.6/10002/Mon Nov 9 10:05:15 2009 on hoth.soum.co.jp X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (gate.soum.co.jp [IPv6:2001:240:c4:1:230:48ff:fe81:e40b]); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:43:22 +0900 (JST) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org, touch@ISI.EDU Subject: Re: [76attendees] Cotton Yukatas X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:43:01 -0000 > According to the "Kimono Encyclopedia" at > http://www.japanesekimono.com/mens_kimono.htm there are some male > kimonos that are colorful and the design are "male motifs" on a blue > background. This movie shows also a style of men's kimono. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PdIrUfe4qo # but in special case. ---- Masahiko KIMOTO, Ph.D. / SOUM Corporation. e-mail: kimoto@soum.co.jp phone:+81.3.5453.1251 From arifumi@nttv6.net Mon Nov 9 02:50:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04EB3A68FE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:50:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gacob5Y3e99c for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:50:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.nttv6.net (mail.nttv6.net [IPv6:2001:fa8::25]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11F228C0D6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:50:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.nttv6.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA9Aovpj015146; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:50:58 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from arifumi@nttv6.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed From: Arifumi Matsumoto In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:52:48 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <66346671-3773-4A08-94CB-7A777C105631@nttv6.net> References: To: Yuji Sekiya X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (mail.nttv6.net [IPv6:::1]); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:50:58 +0900 (JST) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:50:37 -0000 Hi, On 2009/11/09, at 13:43, Yuji Sekiya wrote: > > Dear IET76 Attendees, > This is Yuji Sekiya, IETF NOC. > > Someone's laptop announces Rogue IPv6 RA on > SSID:ietf network. > > We send fake RAs with routerlifetime=0, so your computer > may not be affected, however, the Rogue RAs are still announced. Is that true ? IIRC, routerlifetime and address lifetime is not correlated. So, that address can be used for the source address for outgoing sessions, right ? You also have to deprecate the address by announcing PIO with preferred lifetime 0. Regards, > > MAC addresses of laptop which announces Rogue RA are > > 00:1b:77:bc:a4:e6 > 00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2 > > Please STOP announcement of Rogue RA !!! > > -- Yuji Sekiya > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From sekiya@wide.ad.jp Mon Nov 9 02:54:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218623A68A5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:54:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.127 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.127 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VciU0xeJmOZB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from azusa.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (azusa.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [130.69.251.120]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657193A67A4 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from 59.214.180.203.d.iijmobile.jp.wide.ad.jp (host-24-21.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.21]) by azusa.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387808280AE; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:55:14 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:55:13 +0900 Message-ID: From: Yuji Sekiya To: Arifumi Matsumoto In-Reply-To: <66346671-3773-4A08-94CB-7A777C105631@nttv6.net> References: <66346671-3773-4A08-94CB-7A777C105631@nttv6.net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL/10.7 Emacs/22.2.50 (i386-apple-darwin9.4.0) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organization: The University of Tokyo MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:54:49 -0000 At Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:52:48 +0900, Arifumi Matsumoto wrote: > IIRC, routerlifetime and address lifetime is not correlated. > > So, that address can be used for the source address for > outgoing sessions, right ? I think some of implementation bind prefix and its default router, so default router is expired, the prefix is not selected as source address. -- Yuji Sekiya From masa@fumi.org Mon Nov 9 03:02:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5AF3A684F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 03:02:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.72 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.72 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.790, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Nu1Fq-EwbflV for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 03:02:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta.nao.ac.jp (mta1-ext.mtk.nao.ac.jp [133.40.6.5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E480C3A680D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 03:02:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from anago.fumi.org (sslvpn-39-226.mtk.nao.ac.jp [133.40.39.226]) by mta.nao.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB5AE60B4 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:02:36 +0900 (JST) Received: by anago.fumi.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A50082B455; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:02:33 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:02:33 +0900 From: Masafumi OE To: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Message-ID: <20091109110233.GE9199@anago.fumi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: [76attendees] 20091109 Wireless LAN info. X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf-noc@wide.ad.jp List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:02:11 -0000 Dear IETF-folks, Thank you for using IETF76 WiFi. NOC team is investigating the following issues. If you have any issue on the IETF76 WiFi, please contact to NOC staff. Your comment and suggestion are welcome. 2009/11/09 #1 If people continue roaming in the venue, packet loss late on the client is growing up. Client is required rebooting to solve. XP on Thinkpad T500 with Intel WiFi link 5300 is associating with 5GHz band (802.11an). #2 Rouge RA clients see 76attendees@ietf.org ML #3 Someone plug off the power of WiFi AP in the 1F lobby. DON'T PLUG OFF ANY CABLE IN THE VENUE. Thank you for your cooperation. -- Masafumi OE, Astronomy Data Center, NAOJ. From kimoto@soum.co.jp Mon Nov 9 04:01:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68F328C212 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:01:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.254 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.254 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.331, BAYES_20=-0.74, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION=0.156] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EdgDeDjozjZu for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:01:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate.soum.co.jp (gate.soum.co.jp [IPv6:2001:240:10e:0:230:48ff:fe81:e40a]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3C328C200 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:01:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.soum.co.jp (mail.soum.co.jp [IPv6:2001:240:c4:1:203:baff:fea1:6471]) by gate.soum.co.jp (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nA9C1jeI002148 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:01:45 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from kimoto@soum.co.jp) Received: from localhost (luke.soum.co.jp [IPv6:2001:240:c4:1:203:baff:fe80:54a5]) by mail.soum.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA9C1hqw008457; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:01:43 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:01:43 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091109.210143.123570613.kimoto@soum.co.jp> To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Masahiko KIMOTO In-Reply-To: <20091109.194319.92622266.kimoto@soum.co.jp> References: <4AF7CE16.3010505@inria.fr> <62D9AC1F11702146A0387CBFF3A8CD3D01C09274@DEMUEXC030.nsn-intra.net> <20091109.194319.92622266.kimoto@soum.co.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.6/10002/Mon Nov 9 10:05:15 2009 on hoth.soum.co.jp X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (gate.soum.co.jp [IPv6:2001:240:c4:1:230:48ff:fe81:e40b]); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:01:45 +0900 (JST) Subject: Re: [76attendees] Cotton Yukatas X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:01:25 -0000 I've found Gofukuya (formal Kimono shop) beside Tokyu-inn. http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?q=34.388888,132.461474&num=1&sll=34.388897,132.461469&sspn=0.00114,0.001228&gl=jp&hl=ja&ie=UTF8&ll=34.388881,132.461265&spn=0.00114,0.001228&z=19 I'm not sure this will open tomorrow, sorry. And as far as I know, formal kimono is extremely expensive, so this may not satisfy your request. ---- Masahiko KIMOTO, Ph.D. / SOUM Corporation. e-mail: kimoto@soum.co.jp phone:+81.3.5453.1251 From admin@dslcomputer.com Mon Nov 9 04:09:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81FCE3A6A0D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:09:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o7jQVxVlxG7o for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:09:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBD33A68B7 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:09:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip-72-167-97-127.ip.secureserver.net ([72.167.97.127] helo=ms.dslcomputer.com) by mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1N7T4e-0002rF-61; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:10:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ms.dslcomputer.com) by ms.dslcomputer.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N7T4a-0006I7-G8; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:10:16 -0800 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 72.167.97.127 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX18DtcWCYyUXDK9q1b5MUQ1x23m/iAHTsvM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:10:16 -0800 From: Harold Huggins To: Arifumi Matsumoto Organization: DSL Computer In-Reply-To: <66346671-3773-4A08-94CB-7A777C105631@nttv6.net> References: <66346671-3773-4A08-94CB-7A777C105631@nttv6.net> Message-ID: <565b2488dfd8ae2b75d8ecbf5655b441@dslcomputer.com> X-Sender: admin@dslcomputer.com User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.3-stable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:09:57 -0000 Did someone download and install a netstumbler program to see if the Rogue is passing traffic? http://www.netstumbler.com/downloads/ On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:52:48 +0900, Arifumi Matsumoto wrote: > Hi, > > On 2009/11/09, at 13:43, Yuji Sekiya wrote: > >> >> Dear IET76 Attendees, >> This is Yuji Sekiya, IETF NOC. >> >> Someone's laptop announces Rogue IPv6 RA on >> SSID:ietf network. >> >> We send fake RAs with routerlifetime=0, so your computer >> may not be affected, however, the Rogue RAs are still announced. > > Is that true ? > > IIRC, routerlifetime and address lifetime is not correlated. > > So, that address can be used for the source address for > outgoing sessions, right ? > > You also have to deprecate the address by announcing PIO > with preferred lifetime 0. > > Regards, > >> >> MAC addresses of laptop which announces Rogue RA are >> >> 00:1b:77:bc:a4:e6 >> 00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2 >> >> Please STOP announcement of Rogue RA !!! >> >> -- Yuji Sekiya >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From antti.makela@tkk.fi Mon Nov 9 05:34:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292CF3A67F0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:34:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.579 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.579 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.564, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION=0.156] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1xZZzxpwtbyt for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:34:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-3.hut.fi (smtp-3.hut.fi [130.233.228.93]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFAE3A6981 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:34:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (katosiko.hut.fi [130.233.228.115]) by smtp-3.hut.fi (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id nA9DZCHs023739; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:35:12 +0200 Received: from smtp-3.hut.fi ([130.233.228.93]) by localhost (katosiko.hut.fi [130.233.228.115]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24169-313-3; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:35:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from vipunen.hut.fi (vipunen.hut.fi [130.233.228.9]) by smtp-3.hut.fi (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id nA9DYfIp023506; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:34:42 +0200 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:34:41 +0200 (EET) From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Antti_M=E4kel=E4?= To: Masahiko KIMOTO In-Reply-To: <2727_1257768197_ZZ0KSU007Q6C55G6.00_20091109.210143.123570613.kimoto@soum.co.jp> Message-ID: References: <4AF7CE16.3010505@inria.fr> <62D9AC1F11702146A0387CBFF3A8CD3D01C09274@DEMUEXC030.nsn-intra.net> <20091109.194319.92622266.kimoto@soum.co.jp> <2727_1257768197_ZZ0KSU007Q6C55G6.00_20091109.210143.123570613.kimoto@soum.co.jp> User-Agent: Alpine 1.99 (SOC 1136 2008-08-12) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-TKK-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.1.2-hutcc at katosiko.hut.fi Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Cotton Yukatas X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:34:49 -0000 On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Masahiko KIMOTO wrote: > I've found Gofukuya (formal Kimono shop) beside Tokyu-inn. > And as far as I know, formal kimono is extremely expensive, so this may not > satisfy your request. I walked by that store too, price range was starting from 30000 and most window items were 100000+ :) - Antti From osamu@wide.ad.jp Mon Nov 9 05:47:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E623A6ADE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:47:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.104 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.104 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qH7i-dSJ64kt for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:47:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DAD3A6814 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:47:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::16:224:36ff:feed:1303] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:224:36ff:feed:1303]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5D9F74C09A; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:47:32 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-39-294377957; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQ2ZCPBsoQiAbJEI9JBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <4AF7D8D1.7060707@piuha.net> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:47:32 +0900 Message-Id: References: <4AF76257.1090900@stpeter.im> <4AF7D8D1.7060707@piuha.net> To: Jari Arkko X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment suggestions X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:47:12 -0000 --Apple-Mail-39-294377957 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Jari, Thank you for your comment. I agree your comment. This is first time to us with opt-in/opt-out procedure. I will modify for futre activities. osamu On 2009/11/09, at 17:54, Jari Arkko wrote: > Good suggestions, Lars. > > Also, am I the only who neglected to read the manual before trying > to use the system? I didn't realize that I have to opt-in... it > might have been helpful if the system had displayed "unregistered > ietf participant" when presented with a card that has not been opted- > in yet... What the system does now is simply nothing. Its hard to > tell if that was a layer 1 problem or merely incorrect configuration. > > Jari > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > --Apple-Mail-39-294377957 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIKazCCBFww ggJEoAMCAQICAh2LMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMEUxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkpQMRUwEwYDVQQKEwxXSURF IFByb2plY3QxHzAdBgNVBAMTFm1lbWJlcnMgb3JpZW50ZWQgQ0EgMDIwHhcNMDkwNjA4MDQ1MjA0 WhcNMTEwNjMwMjM1OTU5WjBjMQswCQYDVQQGEwJKUDEVMBMGA1UEChMMV0lERSBQcm9qZWN0MRww GgYDVQQDExMwMDEzIE9zYW11IE5ha2FtdXJhMR8wHQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhBvc2FtdUB3aWRlLmFk LmpwMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDLOEZZyTBbUjYK6yiNWkIM3bLQdsRDt5BS C9f+FGz6dEs/QamBO0jWKFMfotiibrlJLct4hw7iJp9quVCRWZQw8J9FWbC9XSTAUgSE/udZhziU 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Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A9E3A6B6E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:08:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.237 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.237 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.050, BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YenD+5CTGyNZ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.sri.com (mail.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DCF3A6B5F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:08:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [133.93.113.85] ([unknown] [133.93.113.85]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KSU002KPHZC3JA0@mail.sri.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:09:13 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <4AF82290.5020103@sri.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:09:20 +0900 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] teppanyaki X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:08:50 -0000 instead of kobe beef, we went to a teppanyaki (iron grill) restaurant recommended by the concierge this afternoon. Sakon on Chuo-dori. From ANA Crowne Plaza front door, take a left and go 4 blocks up the avenue, left again and about 6 blocks down on your right. Small downstairs restaurant. Our group of 10 was pretty tight around the grill. Not showy like the "American" version of teppanyaki or hibachi restaurant, but a higher grade of food. For about 10,000JPY we got a full course meal with drinks. Prawns, scallops, veggies, pancake, salad, soup and Hiroshima Beef Tenderloin main course plus tea and ice cream. Hiroshima Beef is the local variant of "pampered" cattle like Kobe Beef. Have it rare. Service was top notch, food excellent, but the place is small and can't handle a big crowd, so call or go early and prepare to wait. They stayed open overtime to accommodate us... 082-246-0708 expensive and worth it. -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com From bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr Mon Nov 9 06:13:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D0B28C11E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:13:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.767 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.767 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.167, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id chSwlGH3aVle for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:13:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bortzmeyer.org (bortzmeyer-1-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f12:420::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9533A67E5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:13:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.bortzmeyer.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id B1CE594E10; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:14:10 +0100 (CET) Received: by horcrux (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0E469157767; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:12:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:12:41 +0900 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: Jari Arkko Message-ID: <20091109141241.GA19402@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> References: <4AF76257.1090900@stpeter.im> <4AF7D8D1.7060707@piuha.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AF7D8D1.7060707@piuha.net> X-Transport: UUCP rules X-Operating-System: Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment suggestions X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:13:46 -0000 On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 05:54:41PM +0900, Jari Arkko wrote a message of 15 lines which said: > Also, am I the only who neglected to read the manual before trying to use > the system? I didn't realize that I have to opt-in... There have been a long discussion on the general mailing list when the system was announced a few months ago. Many persons (for instance me) were worried about the lack of a privacy policy and the absence of information on the use of the data. "Opt-in" was partially a response to these worries. From arifumi@nttv6.net Mon Nov 9 06:31:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5963A693F; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:31:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.557 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.557 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.043, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UWJyCY5pceBq; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:31:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.nttv6.net (mail.nttv6.net [IPv6:2001:fa8::25]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A61728C133; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:31:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.nttv6.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA9EVQrV018433; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:31:27 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from arifumi@nttv6.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Arifumi Matsumoto In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:33:16 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9EC1CCE4-CB5C-4491-8339-A1497475A1D7@nttv6.net> References: <66346671-3773-4A08-94CB-7A777C105631@nttv6.net> To: Yuji Sekiya X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (mail.nttv6.net [IPv6:::1]); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:31:27 +0900 (JST) Cc: ipv6@ietf.org, 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:31:03 -0000 Hi, let me CC to 6man ML, Per RFC4861, 6.3.4. Processing Received Router Advertisements ... - If the address is already present in the host's Default Router List and the received Router Lifetime value is zero, immediately time-out the entry as specified in Section 6.3.5. ... 6.3.5. Timing out Prefixes and Default Routers Whenever the invalidation timer expires for a Prefix List entry, that entry is discarded. No existing Destination Cache entries need be updated, however. Should a reachability problem arise with an existing Neighbor Cache entry, Neighbor Unreachability Detection will perform any needed recovery. Whenever the Lifetime of an entry in the Default Router List expires, that entry is discarded. When removing a router from the Default Router list, the node MUST update the Destination Cache in such a way that all entries using the router perform next-hop determination again rather than continue sending traffic to the (deleted) router. I'm not sure what does "immediately time-out the entry as specified in Section 6.3.5." mean. Does it mean both paragraphs in 6.3.5. or just the latter paragraph ? If the latter paragraph only should be executed, the address given by rogue RA remains, right ? On 2009/11/09, at 19:55, Yuji Sekiya wrote: > At Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:52:48 +0900, > Arifumi Matsumoto wrote: > >> IIRC, routerlifetime and address lifetime is not correlated. >> >> So, that address can be used for the source address for >> outgoing sessions, right ? > > I think some of implementation bind prefix and its default > router, so default router is expired, the prefix is not > selected as source address. > > -- Yuji Sekiya From jari.arkko@piuha.net Mon Nov 9 06:49:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AED3A6942 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:49:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.584 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.584 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hO-B6QgPFPE0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:49:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from p130.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184E53A692E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:49:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4EDDD4945; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:49:32 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at piuha.net Received: from p130.piuha.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p130.piuha.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jAMgvNzpnf0u; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:49:32 +0200 (EET) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07135D4903; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:49:30 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4AF82BF9.3020905@piuha.net> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:49:29 +0900 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephane Bortzmeyer References: <4AF76257.1090900@stpeter.im> <4AF7D8D1.7060707@piuha.net> <20091109141241.GA19402@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> In-Reply-To: <20091109141241.GA19402@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID experiment suggestions X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:49:08 -0000 Stephane, > Many persons (for instance me) > were worried about the lack of a privacy policy and the absence of > information on the use of the data. "Opt-in" was partially a response > to these worries. > Yes -- I remember that discussion. I'm not arguing that we should remove opt-in. I'm arguing that when I show my card to the device it should say "error: you have not opted in!" instead of being completely silent. I think that is doable without revealing anything about the relationship of the RFID card and the person who it has been given to... but I could easily be missing something obvious. Jari From hinoue@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp Mon Nov 9 06:51:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3CB3A6942 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:51:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.324 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.324 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GB0Rq3XYzojo for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:51:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.40.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF36B3A685E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:51:01 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: a5f21604-b7c6aae000004184-51-4af82c6fa11d Received: from oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.42.120]) by (Symantec Brightmail Gateway sbg1-outbound) with SMTP id D1.B7.16772.F6C28FA4; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:51:27 +0900 (JST) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (pl085.nas861.p-osaka.nttpc.ne.jp [119.245.54.85]) by oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4F53BC002; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:51:27 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:51:21 +0900 From: Hiroyuki INOUE To: Ed Jankiewicz In-Reply-To: <4AF76CB6.5090204@sri.com> References: <4AF76CB6.5090204@sri.com> Message-Id: <20091109235109.4B0C.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.51.05 [ja] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAARGXNwY= Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] souvenir photo ops? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:51:03 -0000 > anywhere nearby to get souvenir photo taken in Japanese costume, samurai > etc.? In Hiroshima Castle, you can wear a samurai costume or armour in Edo era (17th - 19th century) for an experience, and also take a photo. Please see the web site of Hiroshima Castle (Hiroshima-jo in Japanese). http://www.rijo-castle.jp/rijo/sub2.html the site is describing in Japasese, however, you can see a girl who wears a samurai (man's) kimono. There are also armour (Yoroi) and woman's simple kimono. The experience place is located in the main tower (Tenshukaku) of Hiroshima Castle. The admission fee of the castle is 360 yen for an adult, 180 yen for a child (less than 18 years old). It is opened in 9:00 am - 6:00 pm everyday. It takes about 25 minutes by a walk from the venue (2km), or 1000 yen by taxi. http://maps.google.com/?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=34.402023,132.459862&spn=0.012818,0.011737&z=15 BTW, Hiroshima Castle is much smaller than other major Japanese castles, such as Himeji-jo, Osaka-jo, Kumamoto-jo, Matsumoto-jo, Nagoya-jo, etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroshima_Castle http://www.jcastle.info/castle/profile/44-Hiroshima-Castle Thank you. On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:13:26 +0900 Ed Jankiewicz wrote: > anywhere nearby to get souvenir photo taken in Japanese costume, samurai > etc.? > > -- > Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International > Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research > Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch > 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com > -- Hiroyuki INOUE Graduate School of Information Sciences, Hiroshima City University From richard.barnes@gmail.com Mon Nov 9 07:11:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675333A68FE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:11:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id skuKw1GWlp-W for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:11:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com (mail-fx0-f215.google.com [209.85.220.215]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B570F3A6B6F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:11:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so1084595fxm.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:12:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=gHre/noCHrYDnvYKZ7A7T+ODHe3AkS1/UebKZ/AhqpE=; b=Cxq+ALJZJu8b8b2jszJbEZ/y71cMJzLbkyOu+jy2WVbGIR56id2OwoTkhdIKkbMrQJ fPzkBrtueButMEcxxG6RIs4MIw3rbFdpRXALN8mJqMKvZRgsFp/fXPlfTbkYRepvNE5Q 4KwpskJro7RSxG1x82iBuwKvZkk0utszKZKg0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Svs2u8o328SeO5DUUl6zW+2Zcg6fZaupzsxkSub+TFHfhuHXKEsVLMIe05wX8A5bP7 YYnZH6MpjffQoaukDJzHTSUt3SMxXESD1tZPHt8Rj0bNl4hd5ygP8jPhJt2LwhKv9uqd b9pmwkLaf1t8SE5ffW5t/3+gJBZ+8dyQ1bnmo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.175.20 with SMTP id v20mr856720bkz.213.1257779539424; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:12:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:12:19 +0900 Message-ID: <88ac5c710911090712l2727d576r121c27e0fde1f2cf@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Barnes To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [76attendees] Ethernet hub? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:11:55 -0000 Does anyone have an ethernet hub I could borrow for a few minutes? Thanks, --Richard From tme@americafree.tv Mon Nov 9 09:33:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E4F3A6891 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:33:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7u3Ye4KdQrum for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:33:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.americafree.tv (rossini.americafree.tv [63.105.122.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8897E3A6403 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:33:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (rossini.americafree.tv [63.105.122.34]) by mail.americafree.tv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D0352CF9F4 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:34:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <862BE227-1EBB-4538-81EA-A7EE7D81D6E3@americafree.tv> From: Marshall Eubanks To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:33:58 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [76attendees] RFID Bug Report X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:33:35 -0000 I have noticed an RFID bug in 3 out of 3 rooms (Fecframe, L3VPN, MBONED) I sat in on Monday. I am reporting it here in case other people have this issue. This has nothing to do with the "bluesheet reader," but the reader for the current speaker. There was a speaker reader at 3 locations in each room - at the chair's table, at the front mike, at the rear mike. In each case, at the beginning of the session, the display would show the actual speaker just fine. If (when) someone swiped their card at the front mike speaker reader to ask a question or make a point, it would "capture" the speaker. The actual speaker at the chair's table could not reset the speaker displayed on the screen after that. In at least two cases, we tried a number of people's cards and I tried the "wipe" card at the front desk, all to no avail. Apparently, the only way to clear this is to use the wipe card at the front mike speaker reader. (A new card at the front mike would replace the displayed speaker, but not free the station.) This seemed fairly repeatable for the front mike station (most times, if not all times), and was an annoyance. In one case, a speaker at the rear mike could not clear the displayed either with their card; the rear mike station was not tested as much so I am not sure if this was repeatable. Regards Marshall P.S. Is there an RFID bug mailing list ? If so, I will send this there once I find out about it. From allyn@cisco.com Mon Nov 9 14:38:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FCF3A68F4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:38:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.497, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IxY4+COsn8sx for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:38:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3613A68C0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:38:13 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Am0FANMo+EqrRN+K/2dsb2JhbACCJivEJJc4hD4E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,711,1249257600"; d="scan'208,217";a="268499058" Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2009 22:38:40 +0000 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA9MceMG004530 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:38:40 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-227.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.43]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:38:40 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA618D.62820873" X-CR-Hashedpuzzle: AcVn Auno Ce0V DiNh FwIf GNVf GOD4 Hkc9 IKRd IR5k IzGG JQGX KI8A LFLU Ljyn Lnff; 1; NwA2AGEAdAB0AGUAbgBkAGUAZQBzAEAAaQBlAHQAZgAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {8AF13628-C26E-4B7F-8F4F-E76736B99EC8}; YQBsAGwAeQBuAEAAYwBpAHMAYwBvAC4AYwBvAG0A; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:38:34 GMT; RABvAGUAcwAgAGEAbgB5AG8AbgBlACAAaABhAHYAZQAgAGEAIABjAGgAYQByAGcAZQByACAAZgBvAHIAIABhACAAQgBsAGEAYwBrAGIAZQByAHIAeQAgAFQAbwB1AHIALAAgAFAAZQBhAHIAbAAsACAAUwB0AG8AcgBtACwAIABCAG8AbABkACAAbwByACAAQwB1AHIAdgBlAD8A X-CR-Puzzleid: {8AF13628-C26E-4B7F-8F4F-E76736B99EC8} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:38:34 -0800 Message-ID: <1D224394D6F39A4AADBFE516AA0BDE660A1C2126@xmb-sjc-227.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Does anyone have a charger for a Blackberry Tour, Pearl, Storm, Bold or Curve? Thread-Index: AcphjV6slpOJNYkfRVCqNCQ3OSd0nw== From: "Allyn Romanow (allyn)" To: <76attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2009 22:38:40.0751 (UTC) FILETIME=[62B0AFF0:01CA618D] Subject: [76attendees] Does anyone have a charger for a Blackberry Tour, Pearl, Storm, Bold or Curve? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:38:16 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA618D.62820873 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi- I left mine at home and the connector is not one they have here - or that most people have for that matter. This is a slimmer model with a more rounded connector.=20 If you have such a charger and would be willing to for me to borrow it to charge my phone, I'd much appreciate it. =20 Thanks, Allyn ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA618D.62820873 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi-

I left mine at home and the connector is not one = they have here – or that most people have for that matter.

This is a slimmer model with a more rounded = connector.

If you have such a charger  and would be = willing to for me to borrow it to charge my phone, I’d much appreciate = it.

 

Thanks,


Allyn

------_=_NextPart_001_01CA618D.62820873-- From ole@cisco.com Mon Nov 9 14:44:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF62728C205 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:44:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.574 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.574 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XDoa2nlfXcpl for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108C228C0E3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:44:03 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,711,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="268502305" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2009 22:44:29 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA9MiTpU005167; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:44:29 GMT Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:43:48 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Allyn Romanow (allyn)" In-Reply-To: <1D224394D6F39A4AADBFE516AA0BDE660A1C2126@xmb-sjc-227.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: References: <1D224394D6F39A4AADBFE516AA0BDE660A1C2126@xmb-sjc-227.amer.cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Does anyone have a charger for a Blackberry Tour, Pearl, Storm, Bold or Curve? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:44:03 -0000 I don't have one, but if you strike out, I would try visiting any DoCoMo cellphone store. They offer the Blackberry as a subscription option here and MAY be able to sell you a charger. There is a DoCoMo store in the covered mall a couple of blocks from here. The DeoDeo store (the big one down on the corner) has a fairly large cellphone department too and you might be able to find a USB charger with a Blackberry "head". Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From allyn@cisco.com Mon Nov 9 14:48:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25F228C272 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:48:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.398, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GSthyIrQi1bp for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:48:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C965828C0EF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:48:06 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAGYr+EqrR7H+/2dsb2JhbADGW4kpCY4IglSBagQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,711,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="428547592" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2009 22:48:33 +0000 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA9MmXDj008820 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:48:33 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-227.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.43]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:48:33 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:48:32 -0800 Message-ID: <1D224394D6F39A4AADBFE516AA0BDE660A1C2139@xmb-sjc-227.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Does anyone have a charger for a Blackberry Tour, Pearl, Storm, Bold or Curve? Thread-Index: AcphjjNFAz+jA0ntQpOitpT1v6lysAAAFyvQ References: <1D224394D6F39A4AADBFE516AA0BDE660A1C2126@xmb-sjc-227.amer.cisco.com> From: "Allyn Romanow (allyn)" To: "Ole Jacobsen (ole)" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2009 22:48:33.0563 (UTC) FILETIME=[C4089EB0:01CA618E] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Does anyone have a charger for a Blackberry Tour, Pearl, Storm, Bold or Curve? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:48:07 -0000 Thanks Ole, I went to DeoDeo and they told me that this cable connector is not available in Japan. Some folks have one of the models that the web says are compatible. Cheers- Allyn -----Original Message----- From: Ole Jacobsen (ole)=20 Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:44 PM To: Allyn Romanow (allyn) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Does anyone have a charger for a Blackberry Tour, Pearl, Storm, Bold or Curve? I don't have one, but if you strike out, I would try visiting any=20 DoCoMo cellphone store. They offer the Blackberry as a subscription option here and MAY be able to sell you a charger. There is a DoCoMo store in the covered mall a couple of blocks from here. The DeoDeo store (the big one down on the corner) has a fairly large cellphone department too and you might be able to find a USB charger with a Blackberry "head". Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From hinoue@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp Mon Nov 9 15:56:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C153A67AD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:56:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.417 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.417 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.093, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AXvvaB8Mvw77 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:56:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.40.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE643A677E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:55:59 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: a5f21605-b7bf5ae000001e19-6d-4af8ac26ced8 Received: from oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.42.120]) by (Symantec Brightmail Gateway sbg2-outbound) with SMTP id 16.54.07705.62CA8FA4; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:56:22 +0900 (JST) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (pl085.nas861.p-osaka.nttpc.ne.jp [119.245.54.85]) by oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC0E3BC002 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:56:22 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:56:16 +0900 From: Hiroyuki INOUE To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-Id: <20091110085615.B149.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.51.05 [ja] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAARGXNwY= Subject: [76attendees] Fw: The Hiroshima Brand & Products Fair X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:56:01 -0000 I'm forwarding message from a bureau of Hiroshima city: ----------------------------- The Hiroshima Brand & Products Fair The purpose of holding our "The Hiroshima Brand & Products Fair" in conjunction with the 76th IETF Hiroshima Conference is to create a more welcoming spirit for the IETF conference and also to promote products that are made right here in Hiroshima to the conference participants and general public. Dates & Times: Saturday November 7 to Friday November 13, 2009 10:00 am - 9:00 pm * A Sales Corner will be operated during 10:00 am - 7:00 pm. Venue: Central Plaza in Shareo (Kamiya-cho Underground Shopping Mall), 7 minutes walk from ANA Crown Plaza Hotel Contents: - Exhibits and sales of "The Hiroshima Brand" products, products honored with "The Hiroshima Good Design Award" and various other products made in Hiroshima. - Panel displays and videos regarding Hiroshima products Organizers: The City of Hiroshima The 21 Council for Promotion of Buying Hiroshima Products In cooperation with: Hiroshima Underground Shopping Mall Development Co., Ltd. --------------------- Original Message Ends -------------------- From osamu@wide.ad.jp Mon Nov 9 15:58:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0E73A67AD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:58:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.704 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.704 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.600, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_45=0.6, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nHIplOgZV0mD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:58:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8377C3A677E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:58:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::16:224:36ff:feed:1303] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:224:36ff:feed:1303]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E8CCB4C0CD; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:58:22 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-43-331028572; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQ2ZCPBsoQiAbJEI9JBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <862BE227-1EBB-4538-81EA-A7EE7D81D6E3@americafree.tv> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:58:22 +0900 Message-Id: <66094AF2-9E8F-4A56-977F-10B6066C8202@wide.ad.jp> References: <862BE227-1EBB-4538-81EA-A7EE7D81D6E3@americafree.tv> To: Marshall Eubanks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID Bug Report X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:58:01 -0000 --Apple-Mail-43-331028572 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Marshall Thank you for reporting. The reader ignore the multiple reading tag events of same tag. We are now preparing new special wipe card(which include two wipe tags which has different number(ID) in the tags). Using this new wipe card, I hope that resolving this problem. osamu On 2009/11/10, at 2:33, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > I have noticed an RFID bug in 3 out of 3 rooms (Fecframe, L3VPN, > MBONED) I sat in on Monday. I am reporting it here in case other > people have this issue. > > This has nothing to do with the "bluesheet reader," but the reader > for the current speaker. > > There was a speaker reader at 3 locations in each room - at the > chair's table, at the front mike, at > the rear mike. > > In each case, at the beginning of the session, the display would > show the actual speaker just fine. > > If (when) someone swiped their card at the front mike speaker reader > to ask a question or make a point, it would "capture" the speaker. > The actual speaker at the chair's table could not reset the speaker > displayed on the screen after that. In at least two cases, we tried > a number of people's cards and I tried the "wipe" card at the front > desk, all to no avail. > > Apparently, the only way to clear this is to use the wipe card at > the front mike speaker reader. (A new card at the front mike would > replace the displayed speaker, but not free the station.) > > This seemed fairly repeatable for the front mike station (most > times, if not all times), and was an annoyance. > > In one case, a speaker at the rear mike could not clear the > displayed either with their card; the rear mike station was not > tested as much so I am not sure if this was repeatable. > > Regards > Marshall > > P.S. Is there an RFID bug mailing list ? 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Received: from GRFMBX704BA020.griffon.local ([10.188.101.15]) by grfhub701ba020.griffon.local ([10.188.101.111]) with mapi; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:03:08 +0100 From: Maglione Roberta To: "'76attendees@ietf.org'" <76attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:03:07 +0100 Thread-Topic: Social ticket for sale Thread-Index: AcphmSxhke7NcxkPRZWN2OrF7p6amQ== Message-ID: <282BBE8A501E1F4DA9C775F964BB21FE3E6877B5B2@GRFMBX704BA020.griffon.local> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [76attendees] Social ticket for sale X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:02:44 -0000 Hello, I have one extra social ticket for sale, please contact 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From jakob@kirei.se Mon Nov 9 16:19:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703C728C278 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:19:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.672 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.672 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.277, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nxkqyphIdD6f for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:19:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.kirei.se (wagaya.kirei.se [91.206.174.10]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8DD3A69C1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:19:40 -0800 (PST) From: Jakob Schlyter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:19:55 +0900 Message-Id: To: 76attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: [76attendees] =?iso-8859-1?q?=BFknives_in_Hiroshima=3F?= X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:19:41 -0000 ohayo gozaimasu! does anyone have a recommendation where to buy nice (kitchen) knives in Hiroshima? jakob From ole@cisco.com Mon Nov 9 16:21:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B043A68A0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:21:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.574 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.574 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wk8un-o4nUOd for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:21:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6403A67FA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:21:29 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkwGAG5B+EqrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbACCfsMmgRwIAYgECY4WglSBagQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,712,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="268549101" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2009 00:21:56 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA0LtQx012444; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:21:56 GMT Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:21:14 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: 76attendees@ietf.org, Matt Larson , Matt Larson , Igor Faynberg Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [76attendees] Pipe organ visits X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:21:30 -0000 I am preparing for two visits this week to see: 1. the organ at the Hiroshima Memorial Cathedral and; 2. the small organ in the Rihga Royal Hotel (wedding chapel). Proposed days are today (Tuesday) and tomorrow (Wednesday), but the schedule/sequence is NOT set yet. The proposal is to go at noon, that is meet in the ANA lobby for the cathedral visit at 1145 and take taxis, and in the Rihga Royal Lobby at 1155 for the other visit. As I said, the schedule is NOT determined yet (need confirmation from various parties that may still be sleeping), but if you are interested, let me know by return e-mail so I can get some idea of the size of the group. The Rihga Royal visit is meant to be very short and very informal/private else they want to charge lots of money for rental of the chapel, so a really small group is the goal for that one. Ole (www.organdemo.info) Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From ole@cisco.com Mon Nov 9 16:23:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E0B3A6989 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:23:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.424 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.424 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.125, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9fypb4eX5HV2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3953A67FA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:23:13 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAG5B+EqrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbADGJIEcCAGIBAmOFoJUgWoE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,712,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="428609661" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2009 00:23:40 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA0NeqH016996; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:23:40 GMT Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:22:58 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Jakob Schlyter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] =?iso-8859-1?q?=BFknives_in_Hiroshima=3F?= X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:23:14 -0000 If you are looking for ceramic knives, I would try the Sogo department store. Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Jakob Schlyter wrote: > ohayo gozaimasu! > > does anyone have a recommendation where to buy nice (kitchen) knives in > Hiroshima? > > jakob > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From leifj@sunet.se Mon Nov 9 16:55:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DEF3A6959 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:55:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.362 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.362 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.062, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I0xEtpYS4GiF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:55:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from backup-server.nordu.net (backup-server.nordu.net [193.10.252.66]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291A13A69DF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:55:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [133.93.19.61] (host-19-61.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.19.61]) (authenticated bits=0) by backup-server.nordu.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA0sYHj003999 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:54:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AF8B9CD.9000305@sunet.se> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:54:37 +0100 From: Leif Johansson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ole Jacobsen References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] =?iso-8859-1?q?=BFknives_in_Hiroshima=3F?= X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:55:28 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ole Jacobsen wrote: > If you are looking for ceramic knives, I would try the Sogo department > store. On that topic does anyone know of any 'global' knife specialty stores? Cheers Leif -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkr4uc0ACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZnerMQCeK7PMYpLX+dcaQL4n4t/i0u1P SdsAoMiJgHDuTSNzHGvbMZtMRb+4hwuD =QxSg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fred@cisco.com Mon Nov 9 16:59:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B2E28C278 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:59:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.376 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.376 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.223, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GwnbuXFuW4Qg for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:59:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com (sj-iport-5.cisco.com [171.68.10.87]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94383A6959 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:59:15 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-5.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjkFAN9J+EpAaHte/2dsb2JhbACBTsQol06EPgSCYA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,712,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="103216656" Received: from hkg-core-1.cisco.com ([64.104.123.94]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2009 00:59:42 +0000 Received: from host-24-88.meeting.ietf.org (tky-vpn-client-231-91.cisco.com [10.70.231.91]) by hkg-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA0xe94003249 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:59:41 GMT Message-Id: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> From: Fred Baker To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:59:40 +0900 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:59:16 -0000 I'm sure this will come up in the IAOC survey next week, but I'm curious to ask now about the RFID experiment now that we have had a day or so using it. What do people think of it? Is it useful/interesting? If we were to make it more functional, such as enabling it to be read at the door obviating the blue sheet, would that be a good direction? I recognize that there are security concerns; what would be the best way to obviate them? From kpfleming@digium.com Mon Nov 9 17:02:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BCA3A695F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:02:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.34 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.34 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.033, BAYES_00=-2.599, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e8t5Z4zWcgUz for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:02:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.digium.com (mail.digium.com [216.207.245.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200403A6959 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:02:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiler.digium.internal ([10.19.29.150] helo=jupiler.digium.com) by mail.digium.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N7f7t-00061Y-Av for 76attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:02:29 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F9ADFC847 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:02:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from jupiler.digium.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jupiler.digium.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I0NpM1dl4N53 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:02:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from [133.93.24.160] (host-24-160.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.160]) (Authenticated sender: kpfleming) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50BADFC827 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:02:27 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4AF8BBA1.20504@digium.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:02:25 +0900 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" Organization: Digium, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=05FB8DB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:02:04 -0000 Fred Baker wrote: > What do people think of it? Is it useful/interesting? If we were to make > it more functional, such as enabling it to be read at the door obviating > the blue sheet, would that be a good direction? I recognize that there > are security concerns; what would be the best way to obviate them? As a new attendee, I don't have much experience to draw on, but I think passing the electronic bluesheet around the room is a good method; I would prefer not to have it read at the door. -- Kevin P. 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Is it useful/interesting? If we were to make > it more functional, such as enabling it to be read at the door obviating > the blue sheet, would that be a good direction? I recognize that there > are security concerns; what would be the best way to obviate them? Yeah, I was thinking that having the "electronic blue sheet" at the door would be better than passing it around. It means I can just swipe in as I enter the door and don't have to think about it. > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees -derek -- Derek Atkins Principal Software Engineer PGP Corporation 4 Farragut Ave Somerville, MA 02144 +1 617 623 3745 | warlord@pgp.com PGP Corporation -- Rest Secured.(TM) PGP Fingerprint: 0FEE 5EA1 FF22 E0C9 4FFE 631A 9232 FF93 1C80 1DB7 This email and any attachments thereto may contain private, confidential, and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. 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From atarashi@alaxala.net Mon Nov 9 17:04:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027BD28C278 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:04:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.147 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.147 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8=0.152] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G0BFZLA+aO3h for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:04:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc1.alaxala.net (pc1.alaxala.net [IPv6:2001:200:165::1:1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F583A69DE for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pc1.alaxala.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BD3B8AE; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:04:51 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alaxala.net Received: from pc1.alaxala.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pc1.alaxala.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v8m1ZKxVQ9PT; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:04:47 +0900 (JST) Received: from host-40-55.meeting.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:40:223:6cff:fe80:e615]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pc1.alaxala.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8C483B877; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:04:47 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4AF8BC29.4000409@alaxala.net> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:04:41 +0900 From: Yoshifumi Atarashi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leif Johansson References: <4AF8B9CD.9000305@sunet.se> In-Reply-To: <4AF8B9CD.9000305@sunet.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] =?utf-8?q?=C2=BFknives_in_Hiroshima=3F?= X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:04:47 -0000 I found in Japanese phone number book. Kikusuga Kikutaro-Hamono-Seisakusho 2-9 Fukuromachi, Naka-ku, Hiroshima-shi tel. +81 82 247 3373 http://maps.google.co.jp/maps/place?cid=15030626579055811789&q=%E3%81%8D%E3%81%8F%E3%81%99%E3%81%8C%E3%80%80%E5%BA%83%E5%B3%B6 ------ Yoshifumi Atarashi > Ole Jacobsen wrote: >> If you are looking for ceramic knives, I would try the Sogo department >> store. > > On that topic does anyone know of any 'global' knife specialty stores? > > Cheers Leif _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From randy@psg.com Mon Nov 9 17:07:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774F428C294 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:07:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id crCUyj0Vo2vn for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:07:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A680C28C291 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:07:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-40-47.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.40.47]) by ran.psg.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1N7fCg-000Oqy-1i; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:07:26 +0000 Message-ID: <4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:07:23 +0900 From: Randy Bush User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fred Baker References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:07:02 -0000 > What do people think of it? Is it useful/interesting? If we were to make > it more functional, such as enabling it to be read at the door obviating > the blue sheet, would that be a good direction? I recognize that there > are security concerns; what would be the best way to obviate them? imiho, the privacy issues is a flat show stopper randy From vgill@vijaygill.com Mon Nov 9 17:08:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DA23A6A18 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:08:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.722 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.722 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.255, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6O8Lkpq3xwoI for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:08:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pz0-f204.google.com (mail-pz0-f204.google.com [209.85.222.204]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F583A69F1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:08:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by pzk42 with SMTP id 42so2927576pzk.31 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:09:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.153.29 with SMTP id f29mr888339wfo.294.1257815354530; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:09:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com> References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:09:14 -0800 Message-ID: <21ef2c1c0911091709k622acfb3s2f7bfa25e3d02dee@mail.gmail.com> From: vijay gill To: Randy Bush Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:08:51 -0000 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> What do people think of it? Is it useful/interesting? If we were to make >> it more functional, such as enabling it to be read at the door obviating >> the blue sheet, would that be a good direction? I recognize that there >> are security concerns; what would be the best way to obviate them? > > imiho, the privacy issues is a flat show stopper What privacy issue are you worried about here Randy? the blue sheet signup does track your location fairly well I'd imagine. /vijay > > randy > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From randy@psg.com Mon Nov 9 17:09:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D007E3A69F1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:09:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aHgh34n4NLd2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:09:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00FA3A68C2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:09:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rmac.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1N7fF8-000Orm-QC; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:09:58 +0000 Received: from host-113-170.meeting.ietf.org.psg.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rmac.psg.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CB92BF2DBB; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:09:58 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:09:58 +0900 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: vijay gill In-Reply-To: <21ef2c1c0911091709k622acfb3s2f7bfa25e3d02dee@mail.gmail.com> References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com> <21ef2c1c0911091709k622acfb3s2f7bfa25e3d02dee@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:09:34 -0000 > What privacy issue are you worried about here Randy? the blue sheet > signup does track your location fairly well I'd imagine. if i sign it, which is quite optional From vgill@vijaygill.com Mon Nov 9 17:11:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC093A69F1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:11:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.743 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.743 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.234, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rezl1LXBH+4f for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:11:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pz0-f204.google.com (mail-pz0-f204.google.com [209.85.222.204]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42EC3A68C2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:11:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by pzk42 with SMTP id 42so2928965pzk.31 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:11:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.154.29 with SMTP id g29mr919008wfo.267.1257815501217; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:11:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com> <21ef2c1c0911091709k622acfb3s2f7bfa25e3d02dee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:11:41 -0800 Message-ID: <21ef2c1c0911091711r30c828e2nff1ab05500ef4be@mail.gmail.com> From: vijay gill To: Randy Bush Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:11:16 -0000 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> What privacy issue are you worried about here Randy? =A0the blue sheet >> signup does track your location fairly well I'd imagine. > > if i sign it, which is quite optional In that case, put the rfid blocker tab on your rfid and do not worry about it further. The same people that are not going to be signing the blue sheets aren't going to be rfid tagging, so the actual list of attendees shouldn't change. And certainly it will make the ringmarole with the blue sheets passing around much easier. Welcome to the future. /vijay > From weiler@watson.org Mon Nov 9 17:12:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82163A68E0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:12:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.527 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.527 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.072, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KV4+ootj1iwJ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B39E3A68C2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA1Ch0Y003434; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:12:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from weiler@watson.org) Received: from localhost (weiler@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nAA1CgtZ003431; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:12:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from weiler@watson.org) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: weiler owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:12:42 -0500 (EST) From: Samuel Weiler To: Randy Bush In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com> <21ef2c1c0911091709k622acfb3s2f7bfa25e3d02dee@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:12:43 -0500 (EST) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:12:19 -0000 On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Randy Bush wrote: >> What privacy issue are you worried about here Randy? the blue sheet >> signup does track your location fairly well I'd imagine. > > if i sign it, which is quite optional ==Randy. Knowing that the paper sheets are being permanently retained, I've quit signing the blue sheets. -- Sam From jmauch@us.ntt.net Mon Nov 9 17:12:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316433A69F1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:12:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.549 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.549 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.050, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 365Hj-Cw8d7P for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:12:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from puck.nether.net (puck.nether.net [IPv6:2001:418:3f4::5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5A63A68E0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-24-48.meeting.ietf.org (host-24-48.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.48]) (authenticated bits=0) by puck.nether.net (8.14.3/8.12.9) with ESMTP id nAA1E0Uq096897 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:14:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jmauch@us.ntt.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jared Mauch In-Reply-To: <4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:13:10 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com> To: Randy Bush X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (puck.nether.net [204.42.254.5]); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:14:03 -0500 (EST) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:12:51 -0000 On Nov 9, 2009, at 8:07 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> What do people think of it? Is it useful/interesting? If we were to = make >> it more functional, such as enabling it to be read at the door = obviating >> the blue sheet, would that be a good direction? I recognize that = there >> are security concerns; what would be the best way to obviate them? >=20 > imiho, the privacy issues is a flat show stopper I see no issues, you are not stopped for not having a badge/RFID card, = nor are you stopped for not signing the blue sheets. While it may be expected, it's certainly not enforced as a requirement. = If you don't like it, you can always remove the chip/antenna. I think that having readers at the doorway would be of value, perhaps = with one that allows you to sign-out (eg: if you are going to another WG = at same time). I understand some folks don't like the privacy issues around this, = unless there are the IETF police stationed at each door. - Jared= From ole@cisco.com Mon Nov 9 17:12:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4D328C29D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:12:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.573 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.573 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.026, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id do9fcVlNWvl9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:12:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A0928C29A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:12:57 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,712,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="268572044" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2009 01:13:24 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA1DOvo013291; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:13:24 GMT Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:12:41 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Randy Bush In-Reply-To: <4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com> Message-ID: References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:12:59 -0000 What privacy issues? The fact that you can tell where #54657 went in the last hour? Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Randy Bush wrote: > > What do people think of it? Is it useful/interesting? If we were to make > > it more functional, such as enabling it to be read at the door obviating > > the blue sheet, would that be a good direction? I recognize that there > > are security concerns; what would be the best way to obviate them? > > imiho, the privacy issues is a flat show stopper > > randy > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From myousaf@ymail.com Mon Nov 9 17:13:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AB728C29C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:13:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4zP-MZX2UC5q for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from web65314.mail.ac2.yahoo.com (web65314.mail.ac2.yahoo.com [68.180.158.240]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6195B28C296 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 61234 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Nov 2009 01:13:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s1024; t=1257815626; bh=e8NunOs7CrdbDYOdF6HHQzqmhUD+PhIP1RaTIZpyCow=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UNC6qENibFYddS12CPIqVdUXryHnfm9sVSqGQ94DFSQ+12WJq7NSfcdcV2E8aNgRygmlHjs8xElmwwOmtNSA/L9X3bRip8jgf5302qVfig+kyF3gC42saICaDUGKfoSRIp96Tz+Zk03CszevT7PFsv3aWSROfBsa+MVJuhU2uxQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=ymail.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=U3wZwwMYhYrl4goHoSLNhTQJ7jixDz9p7PipMYx5oTMRqf736omsZ7LXA4FuQGspbkplCcX4jCtUu64/LNcohMwucE7p/05OxL2KZJDpCnZLOVxDIzgp/WqwlqxmmlGOO0vY6O7LsqtRg+faPiDQhdTSjzW2dY71ovvtIJqoe/I=; Message-ID: <894297.61191.qm@web65314.mail.ac2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: L5cRPM4VM1kUempRSn3x_l8ifMPOlkLaq0sy0UNkiJGu0jeLuIWFvCmOl3LqUn3rU3ztvtjpW7hyhWNGSFE_Sd2yJmrEUEqnUJFobAK24DKuSIog6eamO5OFrjhv9SKQi5I7H79SLcOKZSRsEUNEufVObsIRIUG5ykgZylppuxaxOv7pYsMscekaeDqDA376pMewxv3WWVtAmnlqCkA8uUoPiKwqxlJ1tCAVFnpFZVdon_IJdmAMDPotMwlasWt7zibHe5u6ipRQW7Hx03zSV1vAX9p4iyBN2kGw.9JrUp5Mz2qsIAtSo1VoAi9av6FQV9focK7VQ1Cget0- Received: from [133.93.128.228] by web65314.mail.ac2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:13:46 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:13:46 -0800 (PST) From: Muhammad Yousaf To: Randy Bush , Samuel Weiler In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1674188840-1257815626=:61191" Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:13:24 -0000 --0-1674188840-1257815626=:61191 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As a new attendee, I found RFID as a nice smooth experience. At least it is= a good replacement of paper blue sheet. Muhammad Yousaf, http://corenet.jinnah.edu.pk/ --- On Tue, 11/10/09, Samuel Weiler wrote: From: Samuel Weiler Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID To: "Randy Bush" Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 6:12 AM On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Randy Bush wrote: >> What privacy issue are you worried about here Randy?=A0 the blue sheet >> signup does track your location fairly well I'd imagine. > > if i sign it, which is quite optional =3D=3DRandy.=A0 Knowing that the paper sheets are being permanently=20 retained, I've quit signing the blue sheets. -- Sam _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees =0A=0A=0A --0-1674188840-1257815626=:61191 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
I'm also arriving at Kansai Airpor= t Osaka on Saturday Nov.7 at 19:00. My flight is TG-620 Thai Airways. Then = via train to Hiroshima.
Dear Dale we can meet at Kansai Airport.
Any= one else travelling through TG-620 (Bangkok to Kansai) and TG-350 (Islamaba= d to Bangkok)??
Sir Zartash! I wish you share these flights.

Muh= ammad Yousaf,
Center of Resear= ch in Networks and Telecom (CoReNeT)
http://corenet.jinnah.edu.pk/



--- On Thu, 11/5/09, Hassan Zaheer <h= assanzaheer@gmail.com> wrote:

Fr= om: Hassan Zaheer <hassanzaheer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [76attendees] Meeting at Ka= nsai airport?
To: "Eric Burger" <eburger@standardstrack.com>
Cc= : 76attendees@ietf.org
Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 10:12 AM
I'm arriving at 19:00 on Friday 6 Nov from Thai = Airways TG 620

Subramanian when are you arriving?

Regards
=

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Eric Bur= ger <eburger@standardstrack.com> wrote:
=0AFor me, I get into KIX a= t 1700 on Saturday from SFO. Likewise, anyone getting in around then?
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=0AOn Nov 4, 2009, at 11:46 AM, = Dale Worley wrote:
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=0AI am arriving at 19:00 on Saturday at Kansai (Osaka) airp= ort on AA 5823
=0A(also a JAL flight).  Are there other people arri= ving then?  Is there a
=0Agood place to meet?
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<= br>Muhammad Yousaf,
http://corenet.jinnah.edu.pk/



--- On Tue, 11/10/= 09, Samuel Weiler <weiler@watson.org> wrote:

From: Samuel Weiler <weiler@watson.org>
Subject= : Re: [76attendees] RFID
To: "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com>
Cc: 7= 6attendees@ietf.org
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 6:12 AM

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Randy Bush wrote:

>>= ; What privacy issue are you worried about here Randy?  the blue sheet
>> s= ignup does track your location fairly well I'd imagine.
>
> if = i sign it, which is quite optional

=3D=3DRandy.  Knowing that t= he paper sheets are being permanently
retained, I've quit signing the b= lue sheets.

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=0A=0A --0-1674188840-1257815626=:61191-- From jgs@juniper.net Mon Nov 9 17:13:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6493A69F1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:13:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.526 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.526 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.073, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0x-lyYh6UglX for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from exprod7og127.obsmtp.com (exprod7og127.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.210]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5024A3A69F5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob127.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKSvi+R+OO7jhviWkcGRWy4ZPd0pJhbIJM@postini.com; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:13:58 PST Received: from p-emfe01-sac.jnpr.net (66.129.254.72) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.375.2; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:12:11 -0800 Received: from p-emlb02-sac.jnpr.net ([66.129.254.47]) by p-emfe01-sac.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:12:11 -0800 Received: from emailsmtp55.jnpr.net ([172.24.18.132]) by p-emlb02-sac.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:12:10 -0800 Received: from magenta.juniper.net ([172.17.27.123]) by emailsmtp55.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:12:09 -0800 Received: from jgs-sslvpn-nc.jnpr.net (jgs-sslvpn-nc.jnpr.net [172.23.8.196]) by magenta.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id nAA1C8j24546; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:12:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jgs@juniper.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: "John G. Scudder" In-Reply-To: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:12:08 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> To: Fred Baker X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2009 01:12:09.0720 (UTC) FILETIME=[D3A9D780:01CA61A2] Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:13:32 -0000 On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Fred Baker wrote: > What do people think of it? Is it useful/interesting? If we were to I'll go with "interesting". As for "useful", so far IMO the rough edges make this particular implementation a net negative -- in several meetings I've been in, various RFID reader related gremlins have interrupted the flow of the meeting. To get to "useful" the probability of needing to interrupt your train of thought and futz with the tech would have to be at least an order of magnitude less. I don't mind, that's why it's an experiment. --John From brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com Mon Nov 9 17:18:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3673A690D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:18:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.477 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.477 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.122, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Nye-G0JVUW0E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:18:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ew0-f207.google.com (mail-ew0-f207.google.com [209.85.219.207]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320063A6809 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:18:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so3776840ewy.37 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:18:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CTknh8qq1kI7jAHaKdO5gEhj8ZSpshK5BZHzz8YEzCo=; b=QCBN76Erg1m9AEKL644vOLm6ROK8xrUWyhikFSLtXAVoFRA8D04DBZnEsU26GDQCAJ Q0c5AKVxzGCjSx6/miDHllBMIKlQU7aKwWCmBJHt+FkrfLQuuryGppBj1Bbh60T3W38V LCFzItSBUwLqKpiybHVSjG871oGN7YS2ObA2U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=iWVDjirpzx0U53y22ZeubCZ9Zewh9QPWYhk9x9qi6WtEyfXAWWDBNJZddxzQuaUm4w LOCh0b0hR3X2IVNQtdI6Ohmay5QN3BhMnwDjIXUt4HRZfKy09BpELS26C/YITOQkAe5w oVkFcjtryuYVeBzaF3iigGfNKpGvJm6goT/K4= Received: by 10.213.23.201 with SMTP id s9mr8969078ebb.5.1257815916984; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?133.93.16.203? (host-16-203.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm7980626eyd.8.2009.11.09.17.18.34 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:18:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF8BF65.9060406@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:18:29 +1300 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fred Baker References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:18:14 -0000 It's working pretty well after a couple of days shake-down. Since my attendance at IETF sessions is and should be a matter of record, I would be perfectly happy to swipe a reader at the door. BTW, our rules (RFC2418 section 3.1) state that the minutes of each WG meeting should include a list of attendees. A great advantage of the tags is that such a list can be generated automatically. I'd like to see that. I have no, zero, zilch privacy concerns about this. All of what we do at the IETF is done in public and subject to the Note Well. (The last sentence of the Note Well should perhaps be extended slightly to cover "written, electronic, audio and video records".) Brian On 2009-11-10 13:59, Fred Baker wrote: > I'm sure this will come up in the IAOC survey next week, but I'm curious > to ask now about the RFID experiment now that we have had a day or so > using it. > > What do people think of it? Is it useful/interesting? If we were to make > it more functional, such as enabling it to be read at the door obviating > the blue sheet, would that be a good direction? I recognize that there > are security concerns; what would be the best way to obviate them? > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From masa@fumi.org Mon Nov 9 17:18:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29163A695F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:18:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.617 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.617 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.707, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1JBY9BoKT4hG for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:18:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta.nao.ac.jp (mta1-ext.mtk.nao.ac.jp [133.40.6.5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A07C3A6809 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:18:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from anago.fumi.org (sslvpn-39-226.mtk.nao.ac.jp [133.40.39.226]) by mta.nao.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA85E612E; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:18:58 +0900 (JST) Received: by anago.fumi.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D1AE22B455; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:18:53 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:18:53 +0900 From: Masafumi OE To: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Message-ID: <20091110011853.GC5380@anago.fumi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: ietf-noc@wide.ad.jp Subject: [76attendees] Wireless 'Deauth flood' attack detected in the ORCHID West. X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:18:33 -0000 All, We are detecting 'Deauth flood' from a client is having following MAC address in the ORCHID West. "00:0f:e2:02:1d:3d" / h54295 @ 09/11/10 10:07:39 This attack is consuming our valuable 2.4GHz radio resource. NOC team would like to investigate this client. please, people who owns this client contact to the Helpdesk in the terminal room or NOC in the UME(4th Floor). Thank you for your assistance. -- Masafumi OE/ NAOJ / WIDE On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 08:02:33PM +0900, Masafumi OE wrote: > Dear IETF-folks, > > If you have any issue on the IETF76 WiFi, please > contact to NOC staff. > > Your comment and suggestion are welcome. > > > 2009/11/09 > #1 > If people continue roaming in the venue, packet loss > late on the client is growing up. Client is required > rebooting to solve. XP on Thinkpad T500 with Intel > WiFi link 5300 is associating with 5GHz band (802.11an). > > #2 > Rouge RA clients > see 76attendees@ietf.org ML > > #3 > Someone plug off the power of WiFi AP in the 1F lobby. > DON'T PLUG OFF ANY CABLE IN THE VENUE. > Thank you for your cooperation. > > -- > Masafumi OE, Astronomy Data Center, NAOJ. > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees -- Masafumi OE, Astronomy Data Center, NAOJ. From vgill@vijaygill.com Mon Nov 9 17:19:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7CD23A68E0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:19:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.761 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.761 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.216, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KHoh-pEPvFkH for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F11A3A6809 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by pwi6 with SMTP id 6so760171pwi.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:20:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.66.6 with SMTP id o6mr888782wfa.342.1257816022256; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:20:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com> <21ef2c1c0911091709k622acfb3s2f7bfa25e3d02dee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:20:22 -0800 Message-ID: <21ef2c1c0911091720s24ba7796if87d0dba979013bd@mail.gmail.com> From: vijay gill To: Samuel Weiler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:19:58 -0000 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Samuel Weiler wrote: > On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Randy Bush wrote: > >>> What privacy issue are you worried about here Randy? =A0the blue sheet >>> signup does track your location fairly well I'd imagine. >> >> if i sign it, which is quite optional > > =3D=3DRandy. =A0Knowing that the paper sheets are being permanently retai= ned, I've > quit signing the blue sheets. What particular concern does bring up - that "they" can track what WGs you attended? As a matter of policy, via 2418 it says minutes include list of attendees. /vijay > > -- Sam > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From lars.eggert@nokia.com Mon Nov 9 17:21:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2003A69F5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:21:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.524 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VhsBwluZBpWs for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.fit.nokia.com (mail.fit.nokia.com [195.148.124.195]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B191E3A6925 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:21:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-24-27.meeting.ietf.org (host-24-27.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.27]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.fit.nokia.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA1MASj003065 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:22:14 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from lars.eggert@nokia.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-12-336009467; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: Lars Eggert In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:21:23 +0900 Message-Id: <18AA31FC-2551-416E-B63E-580A3FFAD0E1@nokia.com> References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com> <21ef2c1c0911091709k622acfb3s2f7bfa25e3d02dee@mail.gmail.com> To: Randy Bush X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (mail.fit.nokia.com [195.148.124.194]); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:22:17 +0200 (EET) Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:21:58 -0000 --Apple-Mail-12-336009467 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 2009-11-10, at 10:09, Randy Bush wrote: >> What privacy issue are you worried about here Randy? the blue sheet >> signup does track your location fairly well I'd imagine. >=20 > if i sign it, which is quite optional I hope you're then also periodically randomizing the WLAN and Bluetooth = MAC addresses on all the wireless devices you carry... 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charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:22:10 -0000 Very useful for those of us who volunteer to take minutes. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium From hinoue@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp Mon Nov 9 17:22:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BACB28C2AC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:22:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.839 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.839 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.929, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z2rfggvQSWyg for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:22:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.40.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7466828C2A6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:22:21 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: a5f21604-b7c6aae000004184-3d-4af8c0673a5c Received: from oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.42.120]) by (Symantec Brightmail Gateway sbg1-outbound) with SMTP id 4A.09.16772.760C8FA4; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:22:47 +0900 (JST) Received: from [133.93.16.49] (host-16-49.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.49]) by oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CFF3BC002 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:22:47 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:22:40 +0900 From: Hiroyuki INOUE To: 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <20091110102240.B153.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.51.05 [ja] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [76attendees] Purpose of blue/grey "PASPY" card (for social event?) X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:22:22 -0000 > When I picked up my ticket for the social event, I was also given a > blue/grey plastic "PASPY" card. What is this for? It is additional item with the Social Event ticket. PASPY is a contactless IC card for the payment of local transportation (tram and bus) in Hiroshima Prefecture, but for JR railway. The PASPY is based on the SONY's FeliCa, ISO 18092 (aka ISO 14443 TYPE C). FeliCa -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FeliCa The PASPY card you have is pre-charged with 500 yen for IETF attendees. So you can get a bus or tram with this card. Make sure that you must touch your PASPY to an IC card reader at the entrance when ridding a bus or tram, and also touch the PASPY to the reader at the exit to pay the fare. You can charge additional yen with a ticket vending machine at a station (Hondori underground sta. of ASTRAM line is nearest to the venue), or in a bus or tram to tell the driver/conductor. You can also purchase a new PASPY card with 2000 yen (includes pre-charged 1500 yen and 500 yen of deposit) in the same way. There are many colors of PASPY for the attendees, bacause several bus/train operators issue the original PASPY card. -> http://www.paspy.jp/about/kind.html (in Japanese) All kinds of PASPY are issued only at the Bus Center (you can select a card operator to tell the staff of ticker counter). Thank you. On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:32:28 +0900 Ross Finlayson wrote: > When I picked up my ticket for the social event, I was also given a > blue/grey plastic "PASPY" card. What is this for? > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees -- Hiroyuki INOUE Graduate School of Information Sciences, Hiroshima City University From ole@cisco.com Mon Nov 9 17:24:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6862C3A6809 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:24:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.573 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.573 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.026, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id klrcXjCVEi+p for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:24:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816593A69FA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:24:52 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEALpP+EqrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbADFXoEcCAGIBAmOIYJUgWoE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,712,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="428650653" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2009 01:25:19 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA1PJfa004564 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:25:19 GMT Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:24:37 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [76attendees] *** Updated: Organ visit *** X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:24:53 -0000 The first one will be today, for the Rihga Royal chapel. http://www.yikes.com/~ole/Hiroshima/IMG_1983-l.html I am taking a taxi at 1145 with Ms. Maeada from Hiroshima University (host, has orange vest). You could also meet at the venue itself, Rihga Royal Hotel at noon, ask for the wedding chapel which should be on the ground floor off the lobby. There will probably be a chance to at least SEE the organ in the Memorial Cathedral tomorrow, more on that later. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From jonne.soininen@nsn.com Mon Nov 9 17:26:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3618A28C2A4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:26:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.698, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IlyS5Ioxtac2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:26:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (demumfd002.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.31]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEEF3A6A26 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:26:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.55]) by demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id nAA1Qmbs010970 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:26:48 +0100 Received: from demuexc024.nsn-intra.net (demuexc024.nsn-intra.net [10.159.32.11]) by demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id nAA1QmsY014143; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:26:48 +0100 Received: from FIESEXC015.nsn-intra.net ([10.159.0.23]) by demuexc024.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:26:48 +0100 Received: from 10.144.253.170 ([10.144.253.170]) by FIESEXC015.nsn-intra.net ([10.159.0.28]) via Exchange Front-End Server webmail.nsn-intra.net ([10.159.32.12]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:26:47 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:26:43 +0200 From: "Soininen, Jonne (NSN - FI/Espoo)" To: ext vijay gill , Samuel Weiler Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] RFID Thread-Index: AcphpNwty4n4Dwkp60uHyq+pAHz33w== In-Reply-To: <21ef2c1c0911091720s24ba7796if87d0dba979013bd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2009 01:26:48.0521 (UTC) FILETIME=[DF783B90:01CA61A4] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:26:28 -0000 Hi, On 11/10/09 3:20 AM, "ext vijay gill" wrote: > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Samuel Weiler wrote: >> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Randy Bush wrote: >>=20 >>>> What privacy issue are you worried about here Randy? =A0the blue sheet >>>> signup does track your location fairly well I'd imagine. >>>=20 >>> if i sign it, which is quite optional >>=20 >> =3D=3DRandy. =A0Knowing that the paper sheets are being permanently retained, = I've >> quit signing the blue sheets. >=20 > What particular concern does bring up - that "they" can track what WGs > you attended? As a matter of policy, via 2418 it says minutes include > list of attendees. Yes, signing blue sheets is not quite optional as such. One of the things o= f being an open organization is the fact that there is a list of people that attend the meetings. Of course, there is no blue sheet police, but it is both good for the organization and for yourself to sign the blue sheets. I'm also puzzled about the perceived privacy concerns. You have publically registered to the IETF meeting, and everybody can see you at the individual WG meetings. What are you concerned of? Cheers, Jonne. >=20 > /vijay >=20 >>=20 >> -- Sam >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees --=20 Jonne Soininen Nokia Siemens Networks Tel: +358 40 527 46 34 E-mail: jonne.soininen@nsn.com From jgs@juniper.net Mon Nov 9 17:29:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A793A28C2AC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:29:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3kcR1t+TuV1M for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:29:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from exprod7og119.obsmtp.com (exprod7og119.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.16]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C782428C2A6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:29:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob119.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKSvjCATI+aP702NwVlX7+1P2laK7cbVOD@postini.com; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:29:40 PST Received: from p-emfe01-sac.jnpr.net (66.129.254.72) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.375.2; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:28:45 -0800 Received: from p-emlb01-sac.jnpr.net ([66.129.254.46]) by p-emfe01-sac.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:28:46 -0800 Received: from emailsmtp55.jnpr.net ([172.24.18.132]) by p-emlb01-sac.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:28:45 -0800 Received: from magenta.juniper.net ([172.17.27.123]) by emailsmtp55.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:28:44 -0800 Received: from jgs-sslvpn-nc.jnpr.net (jgs-sslvpn-nc.jnpr.net [172.23.8.196]) by magenta.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id nAA1Shj30976; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:28:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jgs@juniper.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: "John G. Scudder" In-Reply-To: <4AF8BF65.9060406@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:28:42 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF8BF65.9060406@gmail.com> To: Brian E Carpenter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2009 01:28:44.0838 (UTC) FILETIME=[24CCCC60:01CA61A5] Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:29:13 -0000 On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > BTW, our rules (RFC2418 section 3.1) state that the minutes > of each WG meeting should include a list of attendees. Interesting. Has this EVER been respected? Looking at a few random WG minutes I see zero compliance, nor has anyone ever offered me as a WG chair so much as a scan of my blue sheets (I suppose I could photograph them myself before turning them in). It would be interesting (though scary) to audit our rules (both this and other RFCs) and compare to our practice. For other standards documents, we do try to move "standards" which are not observed to Historic. --John From scott.brim@gmail.com Mon Nov 9 17:30:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1592228C197 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:30:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.089, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0X9fO+dhci5m for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:30:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f183.google.com (mail-yw0-f183.google.com [209.85.211.183]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540E528C2B4 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywh13 with SMTP id 13so3886173ywh.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:30:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N3ljwxNb9DftRaVKSAF3Iq5/kPLyY5OaHdrwPOFH24s=; b=NTidOJ22JafXNN4HP5O4yNriWYhobXRC6e+wp12AOVLp0ZXAPMRdoST5ssSmXrPKOq UB5Bs7D7H6gqIqndNw9y5yvG3AuBRCBlSq6hQ0Kgg6AuFO2IuslbeGFXnk5lpne0c+gL mlCcHpwvQVAK8Pd6Xd4yy0AGW1xsQlNtjt96g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ME9NxgRPQ4WCHGnqnQhwJvFqk97/fciTvcVU+AAikOxH3z1jksadvZ//Gdn6ib4h6E VVRaC5sJFZ88Mc1qAkUFEuP2gGP19/qd16gC3Ie0ulUOekmuE2/T1M9ud1H6rK2W3X3z 8OPfSO7rmDydugJxdmyEFCVeJq4VyXVNZDEfQ= Received: by 10.101.72.16 with SMTP id z16mr29391ank.90.1257816632386; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:30:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-24-56.meeting.ietf.org (64-104-46-217.cisco.com [64.104.46.217]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm120351yxg.42.2009.11.09.17.30.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:30:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF8C233.8070203@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:30:27 +0900 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vijay gill References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com> <21ef2c1c0911091709k622acfb3s2f7bfa25e3d02dee@mail.gmail.com> <21ef2c1c0911091720s24ba7796if87d0dba979013bd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <21ef2c1c0911091720s24ba7796if87d0dba979013bd@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:30:13 -0000 As a note taker I appreciated being able to people's names right. As a speaker I didn't care. Some people might have privacy concerns but I can't think of one for myself. I would prefer that people know where I am. From randy@psg.com Mon Nov 9 17:32:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D193A6A42 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:32:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ygbjk8+7UiAo for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:32:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8833A6A18 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:32:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-40-47.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.40.47]) by ran.psg.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1N7fbY-000OyY-Ku; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:33:08 +0000 Message-ID: <4AF8C2D2.8000107@psg.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:33:06 +0900 From: Randy Bush User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "John G. Scudder" References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF8BF65.9060406@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:32:45 -0000 > It would be interesting (though scary) to audit our rules (both this and > other RFCs) and compare to our practice. as we do for udp checksums in ipv6? netmasks for p2p links in ipv6? ... (sorry, sitting in 6man) when we say rough consensus and running code, we forgot to say that there was any correspondence between the two. randy From brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com Mon Nov 9 17:34:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFAB3A6A42 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:34:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.481 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.481 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.118, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cMOUwKm5Zmm0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:34:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f192.google.com (mail-yx0-f192.google.com [209.85.210.192]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BBA73A6A18 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:33:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so3890510yxe.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:34:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=q8qg3YQwgwuBwf8hSfZ9KqngRha6P23UrqHxPw/Nyog=; b=vMUk6QLToepDlDx6aaAEk/PC+uFVNW7h/Wf/+ZFVX7aoMNVBtxc4nnDWYpEPjbyVCu lGhBjUnYqWq8XUgi8gLqmQgsunUQnBlJ1RjybIpAoDZShEDONMClJhVIrdnZuoBXH7f/ nHvM3z3NleZUBqbiPNJO/TCtiE9jHE3bmleew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=wFKm8Vr2wJrq8efS2lRcqC1u1PqnhJBO7MoUZEcfXZrBc2SNfRF4Up05MMKmgkBreb e1QS6Kd+DeTQfuVWR6MraYVeI/rVZspG+rJSHbKCEgCuhFrsfk/p9NuCzJ72aH8/4Jnn VA5XMQzick1qwro78U1TsLHRqJwXeDpgkXfqM= Received: by 10.150.237.13 with SMTP id k13mr14735704ybh.102.1257816862591; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?133.93.16.203? (host-16-203.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 15sm109930gxk.4.2009.11.09.17.34.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:34:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF8C318.7020903@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:34:16 +1300 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Samuel Weiler References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com> <21ef2c1c0911091709k622acfb3s2f7bfa25e3d02dee@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:34:00 -0000 Sam, On 2009-11-10 14:12, Samuel Weiler wrote: > On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Randy Bush wrote: > >>> What privacy issue are you worried about here Randy? the blue sheet >>> signup does track your location fairly well I'd imagine. >> >> if i sign it, which is quite optional > > ==Randy. Knowing that the paper sheets are being permanently retained, > I've quit signing the blue sheets. So, your presence at an open meeting with specific IPR disclosure requirements is not a matter of record? I find this very hard to understand. Brian From henk@ripe.net Mon Nov 9 17:35:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD573A6A34 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:35:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.546 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.546 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.947, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xM5iXn0km6U9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:35:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from postlady.ripe.net (postlady.ripe.net [193.0.19.65]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DFB3A6A35 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:35:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from herring.ripe.net ([193.0.1.203]) by postlady.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7fdo-0000lb-LA; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:35:34 +0100 Received: from host-112-185.meeting.ietf.org (henk.vpn.ripe.net [193.0.21.33]) by herring.ripe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83CE2F583; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:35:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AF8C35E.4090103@ripe.net> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:35:26 +0100 From: Henk Uijterwaal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Hoffman References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RIPE-Spam-Level: ---- X-RIPE-Signature: e0cdef1f45f89a40ad608d255b27e7d5e4251a1de531a527e15d33656b73357b Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:35:11 -0000 Paul Hoffman wrote: > Very useful for those of us who volunteer to take minutes. As well as to see the names of (relative) newcomers in WG's. Most people tend to say their name really quickly. If the sensetivity of the device could be improved a little such that one doesn't have to swipe it, it'd even be better. I don't quite understand the privacy concerns. People go to a public meeting, have their name on the list of attendees, have their names in the minutes as soon as they speak up and walk around with a name tag. If this causes concerns for you, then you shouldn't show but rather listen remotely to the audio stream (from an internet cafe, of course, wearing a brown bag on your head). 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H.L.Mencken From ben@nostrum.com Mon Nov 9 17:39:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF8528C197 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:39:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.045 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.045 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.555, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WAULxyBVKBPE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:39:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FBC3A69DF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:39:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-24-29.meeting.ietf.org (host-24-29.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.29]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA1dNYN079081 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:39:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Ben Campbell In-Reply-To: <20091110102240.B153.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:39:22 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <20091110102240.B153.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> To: Hiroyuki INOUE X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 133.93.24.29 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Purpose of blue/grey "PASPY" card (for social event?) X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:39:05 -0000 Is there an English language web site that gives information about routes and procedures for the trams and busses? (Sorry if I missed that somewhere) Thanks! Ben. On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Hiroyuki INOUE wrote: >> When I picked up my ticket for the social event, I was also given a >> blue/grey plastic "PASPY" card. What is this for? > > It is additional item with the Social Event ticket. > PASPY is a contactless IC card for the payment of local transportation > (tram and bus) in Hiroshima Prefecture, but for JR railway. > The PASPY is based on the SONY's FeliCa, ISO 18092 (aka ISO 14443 > TYPE C). > FeliCa -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FeliCa > > The PASPY card you have is pre-charged with 500 yen for IETF > attendees. > So you can get a bus or tram with this card. > Make sure that you must touch your PASPY to an IC card reader at the > entrance > when ridding a bus or tram, > and also touch the PASPY to the reader at the exit to pay the fare. > > You can charge additional yen with a ticket vending machine > at a station (Hondori underground sta. of ASTRAM line is nearest to > the venue), > or in a bus or tram to tell the driver/conductor. > You can also purchase a new PASPY card with 2000 yen (includes pre- > charged 1500 yen > and 500 yen of deposit) in the same way. > > There are many colors of PASPY for the attendees, > bacause several bus/train operators issue the original PASPY card. > -> http://www.paspy.jp/about/kind.html (in Japanese) > All kinds of PASPY are issued only at the Bus Center > (you can select a card operator to tell the staff of ticker counter). > > Thank you. > > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:32:28 +0900 > Ross Finlayson wrote: >> When I picked up my ticket for the social event, I was also given a >> blue/grey plastic "PASPY" card. What is this for? >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > -- > Hiroyuki INOUE > Graduate School of Information Sciences, > Hiroshima City University > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From mellon@fugue.com Mon Nov 9 17:41:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB62F28C2B4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:41:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_I_LETTER=-2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bax34uvccrmD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D2728C2AC for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::128:226:b0ff:fef1:d7ae] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:128:226:b0ff:fef1:d7ae]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A23D434E5562; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:44:23 -0700 (MST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ted Lemon In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:41:56 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <97677E14-08B0-4CA2-A7FF-54CD8D1153EA@fugue.com> References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> To: Paul Hoffman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:41:32 -0000 On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > Very useful for those of us who volunteer to take minutes. Yes indeed. I haven't needed this yet, but I have had a huge problem = identifying speakers in the past - having their name up in large = friendly letters on a big screen in the corner is a huge win. From lhotka@cesnet.cz Mon Nov 9 17:47:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1403A68C2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:47:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.25 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.25 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_CZ=0.445, HOST_EQ_CZ=0.904] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bVEwTWaeGXgO for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:47:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from office2.cesnet.cz (office2.cesnet.cz [195.113.144.244]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF7A3A67AF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:47:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [133.93.19.175] (host-19-175.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.19.175]) by office2.cesnet.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59987D800CE for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:47:46 +0100 (CET) From: Ladislav Lhotka To: 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: CESNET Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:47:42 +0900 Message-Id: <1257817662.7700.23.camel@missotis> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:47:21 -0000 Fred Baker píše v Út 10. 11. 2009 v 09:59 +0900: > I'm sure this will come up in the IAOC survey next week, but I'm > curious to ask now about the RFID experiment now that we have had a > day or so using it. > > What do people think of it? Is it useful/interesting? If we were to > make it more functional, such as enabling it to be read at the door > obviating the blue sheet, would that be a good direction? I recognize > that there are security concerns; what would be the best way to > obviate them? What's also quite useful is the ability to identify speakers at the mike, it makes things easier for note takers in particular. Lada > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees -- Ladislav Lhotka, CESNET PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C From brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com Mon Nov 9 17:48:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A760C3A67AF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:48:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.485 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.485 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.114, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zQJ5xt84FivV for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f192.google.com (mail-yx0-f192.google.com [209.85.210.192]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB92C28C28C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:48:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so3900491yxe.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:48:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0FOGflu0akmyQNuiSgrt4m9DN7b+KNx7jxYVHGDmFT4=; b=B/tHquFxurS/JQWd/L58NPBc3Cjkv9OQXK/TmxyIAhftHeJSmkHs25c5bOxErYUykD D+UwsjQVkbCJayv6DJBLUgApbGb7jQ8JdYAjBPgQhUNS92QtIrlYqoulHpgPi9x30LV1 21TjyjEuBku4bHzIMH+a1kolpRoVBxKNrSoCQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=i9zMMajXB/UtZCT4VidmtrrLouaLnPiORVaXiCkHx29Qz6cBUq8iIXwTXVXuklOq/f gjO0NuLHVMlcN4VUGy4sjb+jtmJiq5Fumol8Xfhq1QrylCeey14Y91NO214M+h6XieNt mNGhwGhdxUs+WLUVMVQwI58FI1VR0xxjfDg7w= Received: by 10.150.171.4 with SMTP id t4mr14528897ybe.346.1257817722748; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:48:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?133.93.16.203? (host-16-203.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 15sm114991gxk.4.2009.11.09.17.48.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:48:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF8C674.1030909@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:48:36 +1300 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randy Bush References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF8BF65.9060406@gmail.com> <4AF8C2D2.8000107@psg.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF8C2D2.8000107@psg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:48:20 -0000 On 2009-11-10 14:33, Randy Bush wrote: >> It would be interesting (though scary) to audit our rules (both this and >> other RFCs) and compare to our practice. Been there, done that, got bloody nose. (see http://tools.ietf.org/id/?doc=draft-carpenter-rfc2026) > as we do for udp checksums in ipv6? netmasks for p2p links in ipv6? > ... (sorry, sitting in 6man) > > when we say rough consensus and running code, we forgot to say that > there was any correspondence between the two. Which is actually more important than for RFC2026 and 2418. Brian From Wesley.E.George@sprint.com Mon Nov 9 17:48:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B563A68E0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:48:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8RdxpadVMBA8 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:48:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from VA3EHSOBE002.bigfish.com (va3ehsobe002.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.180.12]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302903A67AF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:48:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail180-va3-R.bigfish.com (10.7.14.253) by VA3EHSOBE002.bigfish.com (10.7.40.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.240.5; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:49:12 +0000 Received: from mail180-va3 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail180-va3-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368CB16581F6; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:49:12 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: -42 X-BigFish: VS-42(zz542N98dN4015L9371Pzz1202hzz1033ILz2fh6bh87h43j61h) X-Spam-TCS-SCL: 0:0 X-FB-DOMAIN-IP-MATCH: fail Received: from mail180-va3 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail180-va3 (MessageSwitch) id 1257817751764110_26519; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VA3EHSMHS029.bigfish.com (unknown [10.7.14.246]) by mail180-va3.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC75775004C; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdas1403.corp.sprint.com (144.229.32.12) by VA3EHSMHS029.bigfish.com (10.7.99.39) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.0.482.32; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:49:11 +0000 Received: from PLSWH02A.ad.sprint.com (PLSWH02A.corp.sprint.com [144.226.242.131]) by pdas1403.corp.sprint.com (Switch-3.3.2/Switch-3.3.2) with ESMTP id nAA1jaLX004482 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:45:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from PLSWM01C.ad.sprint.com ([144.226.242.77]) by PLSWH02A.ad.sprint.com ([2002:90e2:f283::90e2:f283]) with mapi; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:49:10 -0600 From: "George, Wes E [NTK]" To: "John G. Scudder" , Fred Baker Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:49:06 -0600 Thread-Topic: [76attendees] RFID Thread-Index: AcphoxvBFDidkRodS4qY94GkvjTjwgAAdWSA Message-ID: References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Reverse-DNS: unknown Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:48:47 -0000 I like the concept. I do not have privacy concerns, given that even if you = could determine the link between the RFID and my account, for your trouble = you are the proud owner of mostly useless information, a lot of which you p= robably already know. It's not like the system asks for any sort of persona= l info that could be used maliciously (nor should it). I would argue that if you are actually that interested in me (or any other = attendee) that there are much easier ways to get more useful information ab= out me than to try to compromise a benign RFID system. I echo John's comments - too many instances of reader issues, site login pr= oblems, incorrect room/reader associations leading to incorrect records for= this to be quite ready for primetime as a replacement for the bluesheets, = but a great idea, and one we should continue to refine. I would recommend that if the folks undertaking this experiment are willing= , we continue with the experiment for the next few meetings in order to wor= k the kinks out and enhance the system (such as populating on Jabber/audio)= , perhaps with a dedicated mailing list for RFID issues/suggestions. Thanks, Wes -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of John G. Scudder Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:12 PM To: Fred Baker Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Fred Baker wrote: > What do people think of it? Is it useful/interesting? If we were to I'll go with "interesting". As for "useful", so far IMO the rough edges make this particular implementation a net negative -- in several meetings I've been in, various RFID reader related gremlins have interrupted the flow of the meeting. To get to "useful" the probability of needing to interrupt your train of thought and futz with the tech would have to be at least an order of magnitude less. I don't mind, that's why it's an experiment. --John _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees This e-mail may contain Sprint Nextel Company proprietary information inten= ded for the sole use of the recipient(s). Any use by others is prohibited. = If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete= all copies of the message. From arifumi@nttv6.net Mon Nov 9 17:48:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55D928C28C; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:48:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.57 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.57 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.030, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Os5zM8Bp2okV; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:48:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.nttv6.net (mail.nttv6.net [IPv6:2001:fa8::25]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E1F28C279; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.nttv6.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA1nBfx023643; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:49:11 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from arifumi@nttv6.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed From: Arifumi Matsumoto In-Reply-To: <2e8c64260911091743u2f33241h5988f3a97f80814a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:51:04 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8447CD11-7EAB-44A6-BF0B-EC9A92ADD24D@nttv6.net> References: <66346671-3773-4A08-94CB-7A777C105631@nttv6.net> <9EC1CCE4-CB5C-4491-8339-A1497475A1D7@nttv6.net> <2e8c64260911091743u2f33241h5988f3a97f80814a@mail.gmail.com> To: Erik Kline X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (mail.nttv6.net [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:49:11 +0900 (JST) Cc: ipv6@ietf.org, 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:48:52 -0000 Erik, On 2009/11/10, at 10:43, Erik Kline wrote: >> If the latter paragraph only should be executed, the address given >> by rogue RA remains, right ? > > My reading would be that on receipt of a 0-lifetime RA that only the > second paragraph would be executed (lifetime timeout). Second to that. > However, all > hosts receiving the 0-lifetime RA would then have to recompute the > next-hop, which in /some/ cases may require sending a RS (which the > rogue RA node would presumably hear and re-answer). (Of course I > haven't verified this against any implementation :) I fail to get your point. Requiring sending a RS leads to ... ? Even if that RS fails, it does not have any effect on the given addressby rogue RA, right ? From sfaibish@comcast.net Mon Nov 9 17:50:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D103A67D3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:50:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7goqD-8D5qgd for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:50:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900503A68E0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3C9y1d01b0ldTLk56Dqa18; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:50:34 +0000 Received: from sz0036.wc.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.58.86]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3DqZ1d0091rdXlG3QDqZXU; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:50:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:50:33 +0000 (UTC) From: sfaibish@comcast.net To: Masafumi OE Message-ID: <1280575467.1864661257817833347.JavaMail.root@sz0036a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <20091110011853.GC5380@anago.fumi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_92554_1799250182.1257817833346" X-Originating-IP: [133.93.19.114] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.18_GA_3076.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/5.0.18_GA_3076.RHEL5_64) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org, ietf-noc@wide.ad.jp Subject: Re: [76attendees] Wireless 'Deauth flood' attack detected in the ORCHID West. X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:50:20 -0000 ------=_Part_92554_1799250182.1257817833346 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It isn't me. I checked.=20 Sorin=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Masafumi OE" =20 To: 76attendees@ietf.org=20 Cc: ietf-noc@wide.ad.jp=20 Sent: Monday, November 9, 2009 8:18:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern=20 Subject: [76attendees] Wireless 'Deauth flood' attack detected in the ORCHI= D West.=20 All,=20 We are detecting 'Deauth flood' from a client is having following MAC=20 address in the ORCHID West.=20 "00:0f:e2:02:1d:3d" / h54295 @ 09/11/10 10:07:39=20 This attack is consuming our valuable 2.4GHz radio resource.=20 NOC team would like to investigate this client. =C2=A0please, people who ow= ns=20 this client contact to the Helpdesk in the terminal room or NOC in the=20 UME(4th Floor).=20 Thank you for your assistance.=20 --=20 Masafumi OE/ NAOJ / WIDE=20 On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 08:02:33PM +0900,=20 =C2=A0Masafumi OE wrote:=20 > Dear IETF-folks,=20 >=20 > If you have any issue on the IETF76 WiFi, please=20 > contact to NOC staff.=20 >=20 > Your comment and suggestion are welcome.=20 >=20 >=20 > 2009/11/09=20 > #1=20 > If people continue roaming in the venue, packet loss=20 > late on the client is growing up. Client is required=20 > rebooting to solve. =C2=A0XP on Thinkpad T500 with Intel=20 > WiFi link 5300 is associating with 5GHz band (802.11an).=20 >=20 > #2=20 > Rouge RA clients=20 > see 76attendees@ietf.org ML=20 >=20 > #3=20 > Someone plug off the power of WiFi AP in the 1F lobby.=20 > DON'T PLUG OFF ANY CABLE IN THE VENUE.=20 > Thank you for your cooperation.=20 >=20 > --=20 > Masafumi OE, Astronomy Data Center, NAOJ.=20 > _______________________________________________=20 > 76attendees mailing list=20 > 76attendees@ietf.org=20 > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees=20 --=20 Masafumi OE, Astronomy Data Center, NAOJ.=20 _______________________________________________=20 76attendees mailing list=20 76attendees@ietf.org=20 https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees=20 ------=_Part_92554_1799250182.1257817833346 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>

It isn= 't me. I checked.

Sorin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Masafumi OE" <masa@fu= mi.org>
To: 76attendees@ietf.org
Cc: ietf-noc@wide.ad.jp
Sent: = Monday, November 9, 2009 8:18:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject= : [76attendees] Wireless 'Deauth flood' attack detected in the ORCHID West.=

All,

We are detecting 'Deauth flood' from a client is having= following MAC
address in the ORCHID West.

"00:0f:e2:02:1d:3d" /= h54295 @ 09/11/10 10:07:39

This attack is consuming our valuable 2.= 4GHz radio resource.

NOC team would like to investigate this client.=  please, people who owns
this client contact to the Helpdesk in t= he terminal room or NOC in the
UME(4th Floor).

Thank you for you= r assistance.

--
Masafumi OE/ NAOJ / WIDE

On Mon, Nov 09, = 2009 at 08:02:33PM +0900,
 Masafumi OE wrote:

> Dear IETF= -folks,
>
> If you have any issue on the IETF76 WiFi, please <= BR>> contact to NOC staff.
>
> Your comment and suggestion = are welcome.
>
>
> 2009/11/09
> #1
> If pe= ople continue roaming in the venue, packet loss
> late on the client= is growing up. Client is required
> rebooting to solve.  XP on= Thinkpad T500 with Intel
> WiFi link 5300 is associating with 5GHz = band (802.11an).
>
> #2
> Rouge RA clients
> see = 76attendees@ietf.org ML
>
> #3
> Someone plug off the p= ower of WiFi AP in the 1F lobby.
> DON'T PLUG OFF ANY CABLE IN THE VE= NUE.
> Thank you for your cooperation.
>
> --
> M= asafumi OE, Astronomy Data Center, NAOJ.
> __________________________= _____________________
> 76attendees mailing list
> 76attendees@= ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees

-= -
Masafumi OE, Astronomy Data Center, NAOJ.
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<= /html> ------=_Part_92554_1799250182.1257817833346-- From scott.brim@gmail.com Mon Nov 9 17:53:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0AF3A68C2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:53:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.54 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.059, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H29okC4HmcpO for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:53:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f183.google.com (mail-yw0-f183.google.com [209.85.211.183]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FD328C12D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:53:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywh13 with SMTP id 13so3903020ywh.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:54:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=o4HhEFqxZzkvJDO6EJCf1EUM0KldQoVXvn3C2XQGZYs=; b=U1brPNTdkOSKIUzOEtNXseTv+cpdNfwyJPNSZtVGPX/G6oh77s2+5wQ5j+tP1FtPIt KeKiIrdr4LtedQZX0jLD9+PGInVqonpl9BQIbaPwI3dd0RB51rTUBtvaitvEYxkQILRD yVcnGFrCAyNJyH7ChEnKNop7RZt3wDwno1EtE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=HYM1aFpsiCdLSL3Qat1UbLXlMh36krrxyb3a3xVYZAftZmUI1G+YSYAXsvJW8h4Ixj uI6sAqYROHYYMA4aegyP9xBbixtFOv3JO0MqEnJEqqVGdVCexu+ByHgGXxVl+seMBoCY 6qDfD0zmq+s65NVli0LfVS6QMFCdhKHtrJKh0= Received: by 10.90.121.2 with SMTP id t2mr701373agc.50.1257818052635; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:54:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-24-56.meeting.ietf.org (64-104-46-217.cisco.com [64.104.46.217]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 36sm130155yxh.31.2009.11.09.17.54.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:54:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF8C7C0.7060006@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:54:08 +0900 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "George, Wes E [NTK]" References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:53:47 -0000 George, Wes E [NTK] allegedly wrote on 11/10/2009 10:49 AM: > I would recommend that if the folks undertaking this experiment are > willing, we continue with the experiment for the next few meetings in > order to work the kinks out and enhance the system (such as > populating on Jabber/audio), perhaps with a dedicated mailing list > for RFID issues/suggestions. Keep your RFID tag for next meeting and get a discount, folks. From ole@cisco.com Mon Nov 9 17:58:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB33F3A6A40 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:58:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.573 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.573 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.026, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jPx-tIf4mdQB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:58:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F363A6A35 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:58:31 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEALNX+EqrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbADFS4EcCAGIBAmOJ4JUgWoE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,712,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="268587340" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2009 01:58:58 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA1wwiB025308 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:58:58 GMT Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:58:16 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [76attendees] **** Second update: Organ visits **** X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:58:32 -0000 We will do a visit to the organ at Rihga Royal today. It's a nice small instrument and a good way to see some of the workings, but sadly we will NOT be allowed to play it. Just thought you should know. Same goes for the cathedral. If/when we go tomorrow. Ole :-( Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From amorris@amsl.com Mon Nov 9 18:04:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADD73A6A57 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:04:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ittLPc6c4+9D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1::14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867F63A68B1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c1a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD3DE07CD for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:04:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c1a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c1a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tBGJzVw2Csjk for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:04:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-16-25.meeting.ietf.org (host-16-25.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.25]) by c1a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5071AE079A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:04:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: Alexa Morris To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:04:32 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [76attendees] Social Event Sold Out X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:04:08 -0000 We are officially out of tickets to the social event. Any purchasing / selling of tickets should now take place on the 76 attendees list. Alexa ----------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com From dykim6@gmail.com Mon Nov 9 18:06:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21A73A67A2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:06:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.061 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.061 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.915, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1l5KqpCgHAR3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:06:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08423A6944 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:06:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by pwi6 with SMTP id 6so784137pwi.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:06:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=3DNw95fP+2k6fEoirQbrbxfhxZO1hfHhj4PWAxvWfQQ=; b=Z2bSSD6tx7qKnZt9nODY/j5SNvh2J2OeiJSo+mmWUw61jQkhABdVnB314kIGQ9cgPl L+NAAelk+uM2IYjITiUEK3Ro+TbDWhuq3r0QKdpY49fzULGqk3xbgjP/b0YfCo03cmZU iUmO9mZNPfeQ0DNLG/Tx2qsSj2FGk1+gTVXSU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=EjSrJ6WrmOr/1MZLLVPBxzxuv31C6+HfTyXl+bAOhIf/TOgfwrTbJS/iozSvf0I3q4 +2TTCVHQOWiEpwlX+ntAUEQW/XnkmQeIVtLMv6gBxFknMum+ZTtuQ9McbeehydDpGzrh eRuG7m0Vk5YOlMa73SUwlcqjLmVllL/jMmBsk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: dykim6@gmail.com Received: by 10.143.138.7 with SMTP id q7mr888634wfn.314.1257818797152; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:06:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:06:37 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6cadf39c7275568c Message-ID: <3938a04d0911091806n4df75de1sf46d4ce2e153449b@mail.gmail.com> From: Dae Young KIM To: Fred Baker Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5f6fa989ac70477fac2b1 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:06:15 -0000 --000e0cd5f6fa989ac70477fac2b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I find it very useful. Especially, to be able to get the names of speakers at the mikes. Privacy is not an issue here, I think. People already chose to post any non-critical personal information at logging in onto the main page. Attending an open meeting shouldn't be a privacy issue. If you're concerned, you can just choose not to swipe the card against the reader. Although it should be very convenient, automatic detection through the gates is not a recommendable way. This then begins to touch on some privacy concern, I think. One more thing. More stable operation of the card reading would be desirable. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Fred Baker wrote: > I'm sure this will come up in the IAOC survey next week, but I'm curious to > ask now about the RFID experiment now that we have had a day or so using it. > > What do people think of it? Is it useful/interesting? If we were to make it > more functional, such as enabling it to be read at the door obviating the > blue sheet, would that be a good direction? I recognize that there are > security concerns; what would be the best way to obviate them? > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > -- Regards, DY http://cnu.kr/~dykim --000e0cd5f6fa989ac70477fac2b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I find it very useful. Especially, to be able to get the names of speakers = at the mikes.

Privacy is not an issue here, I think. People already = chose to post any non-critical personal information at logging in onto the = main page. Attending an open meeting shouldn't be a privacy issue. If y= ou're concerned, you can just choose not to swipe the card against the = reader.

Although it should be very convenient, automatic detection through the = gates is not a recommendable way. This then begins to touch on some privacy= concern, I think.

One more thing. More stable operation of the card= reading would be desirable.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Fred Baker = <fred@cisco.com&= gt; wrote:
I'm sure this will come up in the IAOC survey next week, but I'm cu= rious to ask now about the RFID experiment now that we have had a day or so= using it.

What do people think of it? Is it useful/interesting? If we were to make it= more functional, such as enabling it to be read at the door obviating the = blue sheet, would that be a good direction? I recognize that there are secu= rity concerns; what would be the best way to obviate them?
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--000e0cd5f6fa989ac70477fac2b1-- From randy@psg.com Mon Nov 9 18:07:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19B93A695D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:07:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16rfp7BePkdL for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:07:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0835A3A6944 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:07:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-40-47.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.40.47]) by ran.psg.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1N7g8q-000P9s-6r for 76attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:07:32 +0000 Message-ID: <4AF8CAE2.1020707@psg.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:07:30 +0900 From: Randy Bush User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Social Event Ticket X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:07:07 -0000 i have one with which i am willing to part randy, in back left or orchid west From hinoue@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp Mon Nov 9 18:17:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8E328C135 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:17:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.375 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.375 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.465, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OwH9lLVRowER for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:17:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.40.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC3028C114 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:17:34 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: a5f21605-b7bf5ae000001e19-5b-4af8cd590d32 Received: from oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.42.120]) by (Symantec Brightmail Gateway sbg2-outbound) with SMTP id 51.F4.07705.95DC8FA4; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:18:01 +0900 (JST) Received: from [133.93.16.49] (host-16-49.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.49]) by oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB013BC002; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:18:00 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:17:54 +0900 From: Hiroyuki INOUE To: Ben Campbell In-Reply-To: References: <20091110102240.B153.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> Message-Id: <20091110111657.B162.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.51.05 [ja] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Purpose of blue/grey "PASPY" card (for social event?) X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:17:37 -0000 Hi, You can refer the station map and the usage of the tram (street car) operating by Hiroden railway company in English and Hangeul: http://www.hiroden.co.jp/train/rosenzu/streetcar_map.htm - Street car route map - How to transfer, First/last streetcar schedule and Travel time etc... There are some related sites about the tram/bus in Hiroshima, but no definitive information... http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~ichiban/index.html http://www.hcvb.city.hiroshima.jp/e_navigator/podcast/index.html#kotsu http://vehicle34.hp.infoseek.co.jp/bus/aboutbus.html (in Japanese) Thank you. On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:39:22 +0900 Ben Campbell wrote: > Is there an English language web site that gives information about > routes and procedures for the trams and busses? (Sorry if I missed > that somewhere) > > Thanks! > > Ben. > > On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Hiroyuki INOUE wrote: > > >> When I picked up my ticket for the social event, I was also given a > >> blue/grey plastic "PASPY" card. What is this for? > > > > It is additional item with the Social Event ticket. > > PASPY is a contactless IC card for the payment of local transportation > > (tram and bus) in Hiroshima Prefecture, but for JR railway. > > The PASPY is based on the SONY's FeliCa, ISO 18092 (aka ISO 14443 > > TYPE C). > > FeliCa -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FeliCa > > > > The PASPY card you have is pre-charged with 500 yen for IETF > > attendees. > > So you can get a bus or tram with this card. > > Make sure that you must touch your PASPY to an IC card reader at the > > entrance > > when ridding a bus or tram, > > and also touch the PASPY to the reader at the exit to pay the fare. > > > > You can charge additional yen with a ticket vending machine > > at a station (Hondori underground sta. of ASTRAM line is nearest to > > the venue), > > or in a bus or tram to tell the driver/conductor. > > You can also purchase a new PASPY card with 2000 yen (includes pre- > > charged 1500 yen > > and 500 yen of deposit) in the same way. > > > > There are many colors of PASPY for the attendees, > > bacause several bus/train operators issue the original PASPY card. > > -> http://www.paspy.jp/about/kind.html (in Japanese) > > All kinds of PASPY are issued only at the Bus Center > > (you can select a card operator to tell the staff of ticker counter). > > > > Thank you. > > > > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:32:28 +0900 > > Ross Finlayson wrote: > >> When I picked up my ticket for the social event, I was also given a > >> blue/grey plastic "PASPY" card. What is this for? > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 76attendees mailing list > >> 76attendees@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > > > > -- > > Hiroyuki INOUE > > Graduate School of Information Sciences, > > Hiroshima City University > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees -- Hiroyuki INOUE Graduate School of Information Sciences, Hiroshima City University From yaojk@cnnic.cn Mon Nov 9 18:22:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3633A69E2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:22:44 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER, Duplicate header field: "Message-ID" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.902 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.655, BAYES_50=0.001, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.803] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PIV8f7s3kXYl for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from cnnic.cn (smtp.cnnic.cn [159.226.7.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C53413A69D1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:22:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (eyou send program); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:23:08 +0800 Message-ID: <457819788.07715@cnnic.cn> X-EYOUMAIL-SMTPAUTH: yaojk@cnnic.cn Received: from unknown (HELO whatisfuture) (127.0.0.1) by 127.0.0.1 with SMTP; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:23:08 +0800 Message-ID: <031401ca61ac$bd3f1e60$4ec25d85@whatisfuture> From: "YAO Jiankang" To: "Dae Young KIM" , "Fred Baker" References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <457818810.15712@cnnic.cn> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:23:00 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:22:44 -0000 DQotLS0tLSBPcmlnaW5hbCBNZXNzYWdlIC0tLS0tIA0KRnJvbTogRGFlIFlvdW5nIEtJTSANClRv OiBGcmVkIEJha2VyIA0KQ2M6IDc2YXR0ZW5kZWVzQGlldGYub3JnIA0KU2VudDogVHVlc2RheSwg Tm92ZW1iZXIgMTAsIDIwMDkgMTA6MDYgQU0NClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBbNzZhdHRlbmRlZXNdIFJG SUQNCg0KDQo+SSBmaW5kIGl0IHZlcnkgdXNlZnVsLiBFc3BlY2lhbGx5LCB0byBiZSBhYmxlIHRv IGdldCB0aGUgbmFtZXMgb2Ygc3BlYWtlcnMgYXQgdGhlIG1pa2VzLg0KDQorMSwgYW4gb3Bwb3J0 dW5pdHkgdG8ga25vdyB0aGVpciBuYW1lLg== From john.fallows@kaazing.com Mon Nov 9 18:41:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFBD03A686D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:41:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.057 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.057 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.680, BAYES_50=0.001, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EyhqHMm6r0AK for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:41:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004773A681B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:41:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so4109031bwz.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:41:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.35.12 with SMTP id n12mr9344261bkd.147.1257820918428; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:41:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:41:58 +0900 Message-ID: From: John Fallows To: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [76attendees] Wanted: Social Event ticket X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:41:36 -0000 Hello, I am interested to attend the Social Event this evening, but do not yet have a ticket. If you would like to sell me your Social Event ticket, please let me know and we can arrange a time to meet for payment. Kind Regards, John Fallows -- >|< Kaazing Corporation >|< John Fallows | CTO | +1.650.960.8148 888 Villa St, Ste 410 | Mountain View, CA 94041, USA From kaori@center2.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp Mon Nov 9 01:00:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2323A6873 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:00:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.51 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UkbSvh6ST5vj for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:00:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from center2.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (center2.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.42.133]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F503A659B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:00:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from center2.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by center2.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (8.13.7/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nA991CoA026822 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:01:12 +0900 (JST) Received: (from kaori@localhost) by center2.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id nA991CIk026821; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:01:12 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200911090901.nA991CIk026821@center2.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Kaori Maeda MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <26820.1257757272.1@center2> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:01:12 +0900 Sender: kaori@center2.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp Subject: [76attendees] ICT field trials in streetcars and so on X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:42:07 -0000 If you are interested in Hiroshima streetcars, enjoy a small trip to Itsukushima Shrine (one of the most popular tourist destinations in Japan) by a streetcar with the following ICT field trials. 1. Digital signage in streetcars 2. Virtual coupon system with digital signage The timetable of streetcars varies but one streetcar is fixed. - Departure from Hiroshima Station: 11:46am - Kamiyacho-Nishi Station: 12:02 Train number is 5003, 5005, 5006, or 5008. IC card (PASPY) provided to Social event attendees can be used to pay a part of the streetcar fee. Please see the detail about this at http://www.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp/ietf76-exp/ It takes about one hour to arrive at the Shrine. Itsukushima Shrine on the island of Miyajima - a UNESCO World Heritage site. Kaori Maeda Hiroshima City Univ. From hinoue@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp Mon Nov 9 18:46:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AEB83A68C6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:46:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.22 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.22 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.310, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cmzifkYFu12x for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:46:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.40.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DB728C135 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:46:57 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: a5f21604-b7c6aae000004184-c3-4af8d43bb618 Received: from oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.42.120]) by (Symantec Brightmail Gateway sbg1-outbound) with SMTP id 2F.69.16772.B34D8FA4; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:47:23 +0900 (JST) Received: from [133.93.16.49] (host-16-49.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.49]) by oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9301B3BC002; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:47:23 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:47:16 +0900 From: Hiroyuki INOUE To: Leif Johansson In-Reply-To: <4AF8BC29.4000409@alaxala.net> References: <4AF8B9CD.9000305@sunet.se> <4AF8BC29.4000409@alaxala.net> Message-Id: <20091110114716.B166.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.51.05 [ja] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAARGYCuU= Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ?knives in Hiroshima? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:46:58 -0000 The city staff also recommends this shop to purchase a kitchen knife. The 'Seki knife' is famous to the world for its quality, however, I'm not sure the shop handles this brand. Seki knife -> http://www.japaneseknifedirect.com/AboutSeki.html Thank you. On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:04:41 +0900 Yoshifumi Atarashi wrote: > I found in Japanese phone number book. > > Kikusuga Kikutaro-Hamono-Seisakusho > > 2-9 Fukuromachi, Naka-ku, Hiroshima-shi > tel. +81 82 247 3373 > > http://maps.google.co.jp/maps/place?cid=15030626579055811789&q=%E3%81%8D%E3%81%8F%E3%81%99%E3%81%8C%E3%80%80%E5%BA%83%E5%B3%B6 > > ------ > Yoshifumi Atarashi > > > Ole Jacobsen wrote: > >> If you are looking for ceramic knives, I would try the Sogo department > >> store. > > > > On that topic does anyone know of any 'global' knife specialty stores? > > > > Cheers Leif > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees -- Hiroyuki INOUE Graduate School of Information Sciences, Hiroshima City University TEL: 082-830-1660 From tony@att.com Mon Nov 9 19:02:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62EC73A68E6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:02:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.506 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.506 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.093, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u5Ep+Jvsmc6j for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:02:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail146.messagelabs.com (mail146.messagelabs.com [216.82.241.147]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790573A6836 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:02:02 -0800 (PST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: tony@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-146.messagelabs.com!1257822147!14509254!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.2.4; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.112.25] Received: (qmail 29169 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2009 03:02:27 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp3.sbc.com (HELO tlph064.enaf.dadc.sbc.com) (144.160.112.25) by server-11.tower-146.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 03:02:27 -0000 Received: from enaf.dadc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tlph064.enaf.dadc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA32RgE018061 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:02:27 -0600 Received: from alpd052.aldc.att.com (alpd052.aldc.att.com [130.8.42.31]) by tlph064.enaf.dadc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA32NQn017545 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:02:23 -0600 Received: from aldc.att.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alpd052.aldc.att.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA32Nhx027705 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:02:23 -0500 Received: from maillennium.att.com (dns.maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by alpd052.aldc.att.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA32Lfu027689 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:02:22 -0500 Received: from [135.70.103.87] (vpn-135-70-103-87.vpn.swst.att.com[135.70.103.87]) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with ESMTP id <20091110030220gw10014q4ne> (Authid: tony); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:02:21 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [135.70.103.87] Message-ID: <4AF8D7B9.5000604@att.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:02:17 -0500 From: Tony Hansen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <3938a04d0911091806n4df75de1sf46d4ce2e153449b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3938a04d0911091806n4df75de1sf46d4ce2e153449b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:02:03 -0000 I've seen two different interpretations of "having a card reader at the door": 1) a scanner that tracks everyone as they enter or exit the door, and 2) a reader sitting at the door that you can swipe your badge on as you enter as an alternative to the blue sheets. I would find the former troublesome, but not the latter. Another alternative to the card reader at the door is something I saw at one of yesterday's sessions: a card reader passed along with the blue sheets. (Would that be an eBlueSheet (tm)? :-) ) However, there was only one of those and the *other* blue sheet clip board did not have its own card reader. A couple further thoughts: *) With the blue sheets, we have parallelism as multiple sheets are passed around the room. Swiping a reader that's being passed around would be faster, so this might not be much of an issue. If this were chosen as the working model, it might be better to have two of the readers. *) A number of people, such as WG chairs, come early to a meeting to set up. And at the end of a meeting, the WG chairs will often hold up the blue sheets to get any one to sign up that missed signing in earlier. A eBlueSheet needs to be able to handle both of these cases, and differentiate signins between meetings. Tony Hansen tony@att.com Dae Young KIM wrote: > > Although it should be very convenient, automatic detection through the > gates is not a recommendable way. This then begins to touch on some > privacy concern, I think. From shrirao@cisco.com Mon Nov 9 19:02:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6AA3A691C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:02:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id feco0pw6htJj for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:02:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com (sj-iport-5.cisco.com [171.68.10.87]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6A23A6836 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:02:22 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-5.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAPRm+EpAaHte/2dsb2JhbADFOpdchD4EgmA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,712,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="103222861" Received: from hkg-core-1.cisco.com ([64.104.123.94]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2009 03:02:44 +0000 Received: from xbh-bgl-412.cisco.com (xbh-bgl-412.cisco.com [72.163.129.202]) by hkg-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA32hFd002150 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:02:43 GMT Received: from xmb-bgl-416.cisco.com ([72.163.129.212]) by xbh-bgl-412.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:32:42 +0530 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:32:41 +0530 Message-ID: In-reply-to: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] RFID Thread-Index: AcphoSziX82KxF29RcKRQGJDjPW6YwAELaJQ References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> From: "Shridhar Rao (shrirao)" To: "Fred Baker (fred)" , <76attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2009 03:02:42.0622 (UTC) FILETIME=[452E5DE0:01CA61B2] Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:02:23 -0000 I am sure it is useful, but I am just worried about all the extra plastic junk that we are creating... The world is full of trash already and we will contribute more toxic waste whereas we could simply announce our names to people ... My 2 cents . -shridhar- -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fred Baker (fred) Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:00 AM To: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] RFID I'm sure this will come up in the IAOC survey next week, but I'm curious to ask now about the RFID experiment now that we have had a day or so using it. What do people think of it? Is it useful/interesting? If we were to make it more functional, such as enabling it to be read at the door obviating the blue sheet, would that be a good direction? I recognize that there are security concerns; what would be the best way to obviate them? _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From wjhns1@hardakers.net Mon Nov 9 19:05:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017B33A6824 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:05:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eKmnPXcGQ4X7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:05:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.hardakers.net (hardaker-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::af]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1531D3A681B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:05:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (host-16-88.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.88]) by mail.hardakers.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A7CC8980AE; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:05:39 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Hardaker To: Samuel Weiler Organization: Sparta References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com> <21ef2c1c0911091709k622acfb3s2f7bfa25e3d02dee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:05:37 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Samuel Weiler's message of "Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:12:42 -0500 (EST)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) XEmacs/21.4.22 (linux, no MULE) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:05:16 -0000 >>>>> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:12:42 -0500 (EST), Samuel Weiler said: SW> ==Randy. Knowing that the paper sheets are being permanently SW> retained, I've quit signing the blue sheets. Knowing that the paper sheets are being permanently retained, I've started signing all the blue sheets as "Samuel Weiler". -- Wes Hardaker Cobham Analytic Solutions From touch@ISI.EDU Mon Nov 9 19:06:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E0CF3A6824 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:06:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hDAgDHvVd9Fa for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:06:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from vapor.isi.edu (vapor.isi.edu [128.9.64.64]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82ECB3A6896 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:06:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [133.93.113.124] (host-113-124.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.113.124]) (authenticated bits=0) by vapor.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nAA36wP1011003 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:07:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF8D8D1.6060901@isi.edu> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:06:57 -0800 From: Joe Touch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tony Hansen References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <3938a04d0911091806n4df75de1sf46d4ce2e153449b@mail.gmail.com> <4AF8D7B9.5000604@att.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF8D7B9.5000604@att.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ISI-4-43-8-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: touch@isi.edu Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:06:57 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tony Hansen wrote: > I've seen two different interpretations of "having a card reader at the > door": 1) a scanner that tracks everyone as they enter or exit the door, > and 2) a reader sitting at the door that you can swipe your badge on as > you enter as an alternative to the blue sheets. I would find the former > troublesome, but not the latter. Given the current readers, the former seems difficult. They alleged range is 7cm, and typical is more like 2. Joe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkr42NEACgkQE5f5cImnZrsMEgCbBC9GoK2Z6wG4leDzSSSIeNEW nbkAoN9/I7JcEIWCgd8AfioE/XpDsUtH =ca7D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rhe@nosc.ja.net Mon Nov 9 19:08:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7623A6878 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:08:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.066 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.066 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.533, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q6brmAeKEdGO for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:08:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from nosc.ja.net (nosc.ja.net [IPv6:2001:630:0:40::14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21443A6824 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:08:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from vpn-134.ja.net ([128.86.24.134]) by nosc.ja.net with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N7h65-0004JT-3F; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:08:46 +0000 Message-ID: <4AF8D93B.2020209@nosc.ja.net> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:08:43 +0000 From: Rob Evans User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wes Hardaker References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com> <21ef2c1c0911091709k622acfb3s2f7bfa25e3d02dee@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:08:23 -0000 > SW> ==Randy. Knowing that the paper sheets are being permanently > SW> retained, I've quit signing the blue sheets. > > Knowing that the paper sheets are being permanently retained, I've > started signing all the blue sheets as "Samuel Weiler". I'm SPARTA(cus)! Rob From weiler@watson.org Mon Nov 9 19:16:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02773A686C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:16:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.541 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.541 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.058, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t84pfNF0Zip9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:16:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6ACA3A67B0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:16:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA3Gtuu018633; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:16:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from weiler@watson.org) Received: from localhost (weiler@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nAA3GtT6018630; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:16:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from weiler@watson.org) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: weiler owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:16:55 -0500 (EST) From: Samuel Weiler To: Wes Hardaker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com> <21ef2c1c0911091709k622acfb3s2f7bfa25e3d02dee@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:16:55 -0500 (EST) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:16:32 -0000 On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Wes Hardaker wrote: > SW> ==Randy. Knowing that the paper sheets are being permanently > SW> retained, I've quit signing the blue sheets. > > Knowing that the paper sheets are being permanently retained, I've > started signing all the blue sheets as "Samuel Weiler". Wonderful. The more noise you add to the blue sheets, the better off we all are. :-) On a more practical note, while the speaker name display is useful in the room (esp. for scribes), I've seen people tend away from announcing themselves verbally , which makes things trickier for those listening to the audio stream (or the audio archive). -- Sam From Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk Mon Nov 9 19:17:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610D73A67B0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:17:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.94 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.94 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.658, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1EuHhl1BIi2O for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:17:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx4.nominet.org.uk (mx4.nominet.org.uk [213.248.199.24]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5122E3A6875 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:17:15 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: s=main.dk.nominet.selector; d=nominet.org.uk; c=nofws; q=dns; h=X-IronPort-AV:Received:In-Reply-To:References:To:Cc: Subject:MIME-Version:X-Mailer:Message-ID:From:Date: X-MIMETrack:Content-Type; b=YaOZAwMcU6QiStofKLwevZHw4LRxGJrwfkRCztfZJpJy6lWtcl1+oGuS /uGPo+wol65kcObWxCsXbz1OJpdMNmwZ5ao4Rfdzx6l7lA25SyuCqtCTu stwNW9RrNtRiPzQ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nominet.org.uk; i=Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk; q=dns/txt; s=main.dkim.nominet.selector; t=1257823062; x=1289359062; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk|Subject:=20Re:=20[76at tendees]=20RFID|Date:=20Tue,=2010=20Nov=202009=2012:17:39 =20+0900|Message-ID:=20|To:=20Wes=20Hard aker=20|Cc:=2076attendees@ietf.org, =0D=0A=09Samuel=20Weiler=20 |MIME-Version:=201.0|In-Reply-To:=20|References:=20<7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576E B180A6C0@cisco.com>=09<4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com>=0D=0A=09 <21ef2c1c0911091709k622acfb3s2f7bfa25e3d02dee@mail.gmail. com>=09=0D=0A=09=20; bh=rYTCesktmfbEnOjAUjJyCG0ZTsWuGPqfdb6H95XsSL4=; b=4RQX4sl10VxMcHxlNkOBRKemCpMsGG3MzTQoNJcyy+klRgie8zg3zzos z6DYm6Aot9zZ4Dj8RU3YNRagWktr+CuNR4P/TB4G8HjKT7AbHnEL4cfTi /5PXveDFlb8/o91; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,712,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="14208480" Received: from notes1.nominet.org.uk ([213.248.197.128]) by mx4.nominet.org.uk with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2009 03:17:41 +0000 In-Reply-To: References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com> <21ef2c1c0911091709k622acfb3s2f7bfa25e3d02dee@mail.gmail.com> To: Wes Hardaker MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.5 December 05, 2008 Message-ID: From: Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:17:39 +0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on notes1/Nominet(Release 7.0.1FP1 | May 25, 2006) at 10/11/2009 03:17:40 AM, Serialize complete at 10/11/2009 03:17:40 AM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0012169F4925766A_=" Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:17:16 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0012169F4925766A_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > SW> ==Randy. Knowing that the paper sheets are being permanently > SW> retained, I've quit signing the blue sheets. > > Knowing that the paper sheets are being permanently retained, I've > started signing all the blue sheets as "Samuel Weiler". That's OK - I hear he signs his as "Randy Bush" ;-) Ray --=_alternative 0012169F4925766A_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
> SW> ==Randy.  Knowing that the paper sheets are being permanently
> SW> retained, I've quit signing the blue sheets.
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> Knowing that the paper sheets are being permanently retained, I've
> started signing all the blue sheets as "Samuel Weiler".
That's OK - I hear he signs his as "Randy Bush" ;-)

Ray
--=_alternative 0012169F4925766A_=-- From presnick@qualcomm.com Mon Nov 9 19:30:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3B53A681B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:30:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IW0Dnk1ACAZp for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:30:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolverine01.qualcomm.com (wolverine01.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.254]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB45C3A635F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:30:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=presnick@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1257823847; x=1289359847; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:x-ironport-av; z=Message-ID:=20<4AF8DE64.2050707@qualcomm.com>|Date:=20Tu e,=2010=20Nov=202009=2012:30:44=20+0900|From:=20Pete=20Re snick=20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0 =20(Macintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B =20en-US=3B=20rv:1.9.1.4pre)=20Gecko/20091102=20Eudora/3. 0b4|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20<76attendees@ietf.org> |Subject:=20Re:=20[76attendees]=20RFID|References:=20<7BA B4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com>=20 |In-Reply-To:=20|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20c harset=3D"ISO-8859-1"=3B=20format=3Dflowed |Content-Transfer-Encoding:=207bit|X-IronPort-AV:=20E=3DM cAfee=3Bi=3D"5300,2777,5797"=3B=20a=3D"27243838"; bh=bx5E+rzccgXuerYKzo3R2Wc/EiU+MEO6E7yxfHdgbt8=; b=FaK36/tAwVcokLah2yhSZoZk0Obbglx+HjbbHK2cVkoe3X36trWLkKVs 9ok1Lek6bAW1poFAHzWxOFWX4exXsDsDkT20+lxDAZA5zb7+flMp/TJwj Nqe01WvQv+YhAQR4rOPjY3d0dSPt60lHq/dHGXW93tRiUGTIuGDrIemvn g=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5300,2777,5797"; a="27243838" Received: from pdmz-ns-mip.qualcomm.com (HELO ithilien.qualcomm.com) ([199.106.114.10]) by wolverine01.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 09 Nov 2009 19:30:47 -0800 Received: from msgtransport03.qualcomm.com (msgtransport03.qualcomm.com [129.46.61.154]) by ithilien.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id nAA3Ulb8008019 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:30:47 -0800 Received: from nasanexhub06.na.qualcomm.com (nasanexhub06.na.qualcomm.com [129.46.134.254]) by msgtransport03.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id nAA3Uk7e016582 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:30:47 -0800 Received: from nasanexmsp01.na.qualcomm.com (10.45.56.204) by nasanexhub06.na.qualcomm.com (129.46.134.254) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.176.0; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:30:46 -0800 Received: from host-17-134.meeting.ietf.org (10.46.82.6) by qcmail1.qualcomm.com (10.45.56.204) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.176.0; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:30:46 -0800 Message-ID: <4AF8DE64.2050707@qualcomm.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:30:44 +0900 From: Pete Resnick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20091102 Eudora/3.0b4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: <76attendees@ietf.org> References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:30:21 -0000 On 11/10/09 12:02 PM, Shridhar Rao (shrirao) wrote: > I am sure it is useful, but I am just worried about all the extra > plastic junk that we are creating... The world is full of trash > already and we will contribute more toxic waste We could instead use barcodes (which are already printed on the backs of the badges). I think this has worked fine, and has many advantages over written blue-sheets and announcing names, but I think barcodes probably solve the problem more simply and have less security concerns. (I also agree that scanners for bluesheets belong at the door, not passed around.) > whereas we could simply announce our names to people ... Announcing names is problematic because people speak them too fast, and spellings are tricky. Scanning is better. pr From hinoue@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp Mon Nov 9 20:01:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7400B3A67DD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:01:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.442 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.442 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.068, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EWP+0BjDs2rt for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.40.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B0C3A6916 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:01:36 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: a5f21604-b7c6aae000004184-7b-4af8e5ba2136 Received: from oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.42.120]) by (Symantec Brightmail Gateway sbg1-outbound) with SMTP id B7.B9.16772.AB5E8FA4; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:02:02 +0900 (JST) Received: from [133.93.16.49] (host-16-49.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.49]) by oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3843BC002 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:02:02 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:01:55 +0900 From: Hiroyuki INOUE To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-Id: <20091110125944.B175.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.51.05 [ja] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: [76attendees] second hand book store (comic) X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:01:37 -0000 Hi, Someone tells me where is a second hand comic book store in Hiroshima. There ara several large second hand book stores: - BOOKOFF http://www.bookoff.co.jp/shop/shop2135.html (in Japanese) 3 minutes walk from the venue - GIGA Hiroshima Ekimae Ten (Futaba book store) http://www.futabatosho.co.jp/shop/shop_detail.php?id=5 (in Japanese) adjacent building (east side) of JR Hiroshima Station - Comic Torano-ana (small shop) http://www.toranoana.jp/shop/ (in Japanese) http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=34.393967,+132.455367&z=16 10 minutes walk from the venue, west side of Hondori Shopping Street The shop handles mania (Otaku) comic and anime.. -- Hiroyuki INOUE Graduate School of Information Sciences, Hiroshima City University From sekiya@wide.ad.jp Mon Nov 9 20:14:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7DA3A67BD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:14:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.397 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.397 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.180, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 40cCXZz48otD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:14:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from azusa.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (azusa.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [130.69.251.120]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E073A67DF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:14:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from 59.214.180.203.d.iijmobile.jp.wide.ad.jp (host-24-21.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.21]) by azusa.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889358280AE for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:15:01 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:15:01 +0900 Message-ID: From: Yuji Sekiya To: 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL/10.7 Emacs/22.2.50 (i386-apple-darwin9.4.0) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organization: The University of Tokyo MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:14:40 -0000 At Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:43:54 +0900, Yuji Sekiya wrote: Dear IETF76 participants, In Cattleya West Root room the below client is still sending Rogue RA. The client also sent it yesterday. 00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2 The machine name is "T400" by DHCP log. We will kick out the client from wireless network at 2:00pm. Please check MAC address of your PC. Regards, -- Yuji Sekiya > Dear IET76 Attendees, > This is Yuji Sekiya, IETF NOC. > > Someone's laptop announces Rogue IPv6 RA on > SSID:ietf network. > > We send fake RAs with routerlifetime=0, so your computer > may not be affected, however, the Rogue RAs are still announced. > > MAC addresses of laptop which announces Rogue RA are > > 00:1b:77:bc:a4:e6 > 00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2 > > Please STOP announcement of Rogue RA !!! > > -- Yuji Sekiya > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From dykim6@gmail.com Mon Nov 9 20:31:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A803A698E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:31:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.244 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.244 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.732, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7cx-cXnhAi3t for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:31:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361863A69DC for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:31:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by pwi6 with SMTP id 6so853615pwi.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:32:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aLU4GBYuYcLaUfYpkIAjglXM4gSNFill3wImtBt+TAw=; b=CJ+cS79gDwIJUgAA5IhvxrhXmRk2u+0ZtSBRDq0Rup2i0maC7EVPC8o/zP4qyhzbtD JJMO69HrtfBWXYfIryV0O0JFeigSViBLhRKQ/9R3i/v37Iwrytmg9iWZ2OCyHle+WPCE PIVvMjknJccwpIEKzBCwfoWa+dm2FGRtMi7pk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=QxBqPHELVQiYsMifEgLYRWkBsTt/WK+MBi3WEmCDQd2EvSoBKf7QOcPmIT89jyJEjp VU9YLG/vM+rV6SMXPaYlycEJMdMM6LYICWLok5zDKPZxO1F7Cx/VtHY1+AnICo3VOozt 08zZ/SL+ypunw6hzDQ3vwuD0sG8nvDGhOJ8ME= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: dykim6@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.8.3 with SMTP id 3mr916368wfh.72.1257827530819; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:32:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:32:10 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9d1ea81717adad60 Message-ID: <3938a04d0911092032n1d793267wb5e1afafc7e1c3bf@mail.gmail.com> From: Dae Young KIM To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502b35729c8bb0477fccb4a Subject: [76attendees] Social ticket X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:31:47 -0000 --00504502b35729c8bb0477fccb4a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Is anyone going to selling out a ticket for tonight's social? -- Regards, DY http://cnu.kr/~dykim --00504502b35729c8bb0477fccb4a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Is anyone going to selling out a ticket for tonight's social?

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--00504502b35729c8bb0477fccb4a-- From stewe@stewe.org Mon Nov 9 20:35:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DB83A6822 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:35:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oOSO1yE9FZTj for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:35:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from stewe.org (stewe.org [85.214.122.234]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D943A680F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:35:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [133.93.114.74] (unverified [133.93.114.74]) by stewe.org (SurgeMail 3.9e) with ESMTP id 483639-1743317 for multiple; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:35:37 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:35:21 +0900 From: Stephan Wenger To: Hiroyuki INOUE , Leif Johansson Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] ?knives in Hiroshima? Thread-Index: AcphvzY7z7oZlSVT50u3RgNwWgM2Rw== In-Reply-To: <20091110114716.B166.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 133.93.114.74 X-Authenticated-User: stewe@stewe.org Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] ?knives in Hiroshima? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:35:12 -0000 The Kikusuga store is wonderful: knives in any conceivable fashion, with reasonable quality (as far as I can tell) starting around Y5000 and high end is available beyond Y100,000. Still, I ended up buying from the very limited selection (of partly German knifes) at the Sogo department store, as the Kikusuga had trouble accepting my US-issued credit card. Therefore, I suggest you bring cash. Btw., the young lady in the store spoke a few words of English. Stehphan On 11/10/09 11:47 AM, "Hiroyuki INOUE" wrote: > The city staff also recommends this shop to purchase a kitchen knife. > > The 'Seki knife' is famous to the world for its quality, > however, I'm not sure the shop handles this brand. > > Seki knife -> http://www.japaneseknifedirect.com/AboutSeki.html > > Thank you. > > On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:04:41 +0900 > Yoshifumi Atarashi wrote: >> I found in Japanese phone number book. >> >> Kikusuga Kikutaro-Hamono-Seisakusho >> >> 2-9 Fukuromachi, Naka-ku, Hiroshima-shi >> tel. +81 82 247 3373 >> >> http://maps.google.co.jp/maps/place?cid=15030626579055811789&q=%E3%81%8D%E3%8 >> 1%8F%E3%81%99%E3%81%8C%E3%80%80%E5%BA%83%E5%B3%B6 >> >> ------ >> Yoshifumi Atarashi >> >>> Ole Jacobsen wrote: >>>> If you are looking for ceramic knives, I would try the Sogo department >>>> store. >>> >>> On that topic does anyone know of any 'global' knife specialty stores? >>> >>> Cheers Leif >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From falk@bbn.com Mon Nov 9 20:37:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6C53A68BF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:37:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.426 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.426 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.173, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5sqT4XRABYCP for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:37:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.bbn.com (smtp.bbn.com [128.33.1.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61BBA3A6824 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:37:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.89.252.100] (helo=host-24-83.meeting.ietf.org) by smtp.bbn.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7iUO-0004HT-Bb; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:37:57 -0500 Message-ID: <4AF8EE23.1040707@bbn.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:37:55 +0900 From: Aaron Falk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fred Baker References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:37:32 -0000 I think this is a net-plus. It is great seeing the names for speakers & questioners on the screen. I have a UI request. If someone asks a question and swipes their RFID during a preso the presenters name gets pushed off and forces the them to re-swipe to refresh. I can think of a few ways to fix this but all are probably overly complicated (e.g., a control screen for session chairs, semantics associated with certain readers, etc). There's probably a much simpler way to handle this that someone else can come up with. Regarding privacy, since everyone seems to be commenting on it, I have no concerns so long as use of the readers is 'requested but not required'. I.e., we should log our presence in wg sessions but we don't police it. The is my perception of the current policy and I don't see why RFID technology should change that. I also would resist using these tags for any sort of 'access control' such as terminal room access or, heaven forbid, cookie quotas. --aaron Fred Baker wrote: > I'm sure this will come up in the IAOC survey next week, but I'm > curious to ask now about the RFID experiment now that we have had a > day or so using it. > > What do people think of it? Is it useful/interesting? If we were to > make it more functional, such as enabling it to be read at the door > obviating the blue sheet, would that be a good direction? I recognize > that there are security concerns; what would be the best way to > obviate them? > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From hinoue@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp Mon Nov 9 21:12:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E613A6A24 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:12:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.734 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.734 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.932, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION=0.156] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E7dYdTkblx9A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:12:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.40.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356493A67F7 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:12:15 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: a5f21604-b7c6aae000004184-ae-4af8f64417e5 Received: from oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.42.120]) by (Symantec Brightmail Gateway sbg1-outbound) with SMTP id 0E.E9.16772.446F8FA4; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:12:36 +0900 (JST) Received: from [133.93.16.49] (host-16-49.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.49]) by oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1EC83BC002; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:12:36 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:12:29 +0900 From: Hiroyuki INOUE To: Antti Makela In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <20091110141216.B17D.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.51.05 [ja] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Cotton Yukatas X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:12:16 -0000 > Anyone know a shop where you could get cotton yukatas (in the 2000-5000 > yen range?) I saw a couple of small shops on Hondori and they were (at > least judging by the windows) selling kimonos and yukatas going at 30000+ > yen. Looking for something a bit more casual.. It is out of season for yukata (usually used in Summer), however, there are some shops that sell a reasonable price of yutaka near the venue. - Eriben ($B$q$j$Y$s(B in Japanese) The price range is from 3500 yen for female yukata, much higher for male. http://hondori.or.jp/1-eriben.html (in Japansese) 7 minutes walk from the venue, Hondori Shopping Street (nearby Starbucks cafe) http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=34.392356,132.461193&z=16 - Higashi-Gofuku-Ten ($BEl8bI~E9(B in Japanese) The price range is from 3800 yen for female yukata, few stocks for male. http://www.nakanotana.jp/shop/higashi/index.html (in Japansese) 10 minutes walk from the venue, north of Hondori Shopping Street 2nd floor of the buidling "Tatemachi G House", narrow and complex place http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=34.39325,132.461396&z=17 Thank you. On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:44:31 +0200 (EET) Antti Makela wrote: > From: Antti Makela > Hi, > > Anyone know a shop where you could get cotton yukatas (in the 2000-5000 > yen range?) I saw a couple of small shops on Hondori and they were (at > least judging by the windows) selling kimonos and yukatas going at 30000+ > yen. Looking for something a bit more casual.. > > Thanks. > > -- Antti -- Hiroyuki INOUE Graduate School of Information Sciences, Hiroshima City University From masa@fumi.org Mon Nov 9 21:36:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FB83A69DC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:36:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.776 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.776 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.266, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lCB+JWuxvRML for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta.nao.ac.jp (mta1-ext.mtk.nao.ac.jp [133.40.6.5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DCB3A69CB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from anago.fumi.org (sslvpn-39-226.mtk.nao.ac.jp [133.40.39.226]) by mta.nao.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF485E6369 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:36:29 +0900 (JST) Received: by anago.fumi.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6C2EC2B455; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:36:24 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:36:24 +0900 From: Masafumi OE To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <20091110053624.GB5468@anago.fumi.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:36:05 -0000 Dear All, "00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2" has been blocked from IETF76 WiFi at 2:00pm. Please, people who owns this client contact to the Helpdesk in the terminal room or NOC in the UME(4th Floor). (See the IETF message board) Also, we are hunting another Rouge RA client on the venue. MAC address is "00:1b:77:bc:a4:e6" in the ORCHID West. If RA sending from this client will be continued, we will block the client. Regards, -- Masafumi OE/ NAOJ On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:15:01PM +0900, Yuji Sekiya wrote: > At Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:43:54 +0900, > Yuji Sekiya wrote: > > Dear IETF76 participants, > > In Cattleya West Root room the below client is still > sending Rogue RA. The client also sent it yesterday. > > 00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2 > > The machine name is "T400" by DHCP log. > > We will kick out the client from wireless network > at 2:00pm. > > Please check MAC address of your PC. > > Regards, > > -- Yuji Sekiya > > > > > Dear IET76 Attendees, > > This is Yuji Sekiya, IETF NOC. > > > > Someone's laptop announces Rogue IPv6 RA on > > SSID:ietf network. > > > > We send fake RAs with routerlifetime=0, so your computer > > may not be affected, however, the Rogue RAs are still announced. > > > > MAC addresses of laptop which announces Rogue RA are > > > > 00:1b:77:bc:a4:e6 > > 00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2 > > > > Please STOP announcement of Rogue RA !!! > > > > -- Yuji Sekiya > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees -- Masafumi OE, Astronomy Data Center, NAOJ. From ole@cisco.com Mon Nov 9 21:37:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490B428C0F3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:37:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.574 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.574 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xk4SmM++OGHa for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:37:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6469E28C0FB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:37:56 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAH+L+EqrR7H+/2dsb2JhbADEU4EcCAGIBAkQjiuCVIFqBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,714,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="428787833" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2009 05:38:21 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA5cLaM001039 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:38:21 GMT Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:37:39 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [76attendees] Moving sushi X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:37:57 -0000 Someone asked me about places that serves sushi that moves in a boat or on a conveyor belt. I accidentally ran into such a place in the sub-basement of Sogo today (B1F). It's down at the end of a little alley with a bakery opposite and a drugstore near by. It's called Nonta Sushi and works similar to this but isn't quite as lively: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6Ovw9R6tRY Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From shemant@cisco.com Mon Nov 9 21:38:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9334E3A69CB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:38:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.794 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.794 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.205, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VTDBdEaPk-ZA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:38:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from rtp-iport-1.cisco.com (rtp-iport-1.cisco.com [64.102.122.148]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BEE3A69B3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:38:38 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: rtp-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAAeL+EqtJV2d/2dsb2JhbADEWJdsgjCCDgSBaA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,714,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="67167147" Received: from rcdn-core-6.cisco.com ([173.37.93.157]) by rtp-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2009 05:39:04 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com [72.163.62.201]) by rcdn-core-6.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA5d4So025805; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:39:04 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-114.cisco.com ([72.163.62.156]) by xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:39:04 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:39:02 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20091110053624.GB5468@anago.fumi.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA Thread-Index: Acphx8THwg1R5Qh2ROSXZL0qJeEVnAAAC8bw References: <20091110053624.GB5468@anago.fumi.org> From: "Hemant Singh (shemant)" To: "Masafumi OE" , <76attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2009 05:39:04.0163 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D03EB30:01CA61C8] Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:38:39 -0000 Looks like another Thinkpad machine because the OUI for this new mac-addr matches the OUI of the previous machine sending Rogue RA. 00-1B-77 (hex) Intel Corporate 001B77 (base 16) Intel Corporate Lot 8, Jalan Hi-Tech 2/3 Kulim Hi-Tech Park Kulim Kedah 09000 MALAYSIA Hemant -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Masafumi OE Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:36 PM To: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Rogue IPv6 RA Dear All, "00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2" has been blocked from IETF76 WiFi at 2:00pm. Please, people who owns this client contact to the Helpdesk in=20 the terminal room or NOC in the UME(4th Floor). (See the IETF message board) Also, we are hunting another Rouge RA client on the venue. MAC address is "00:1b:77:bc:a4:e6" in the ORCHID West. If RA sending from this client will be continued, we will block=20 the client. Regards, -- Masafumi OE/ NAOJ On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:15:01PM +0900, Yuji Sekiya wrote: > At Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:43:54 +0900, > Yuji Sekiya wrote: >=20 > Dear IETF76 participants, >=20 > In Cattleya West Root room the below client is still > sending Rogue RA. The client also sent it yesterday. >=20 > 00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2 >=20 > The machine name is "T400" by DHCP log. >=20 > We will kick out the client from wireless network > at 2:00pm. >=20 > Please check MAC address of your PC. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > -- Yuji Sekiya >=20 >=20 >=20 > > Dear IET76 Attendees, > > This is Yuji Sekiya, IETF NOC. > >=20 > > Someone's laptop announces Rogue IPv6 RA on > > SSID:ietf network. > >=20 > > We send fake RAs with routerlifetime=3D0, so your computer > > may not be affected, however, the Rogue RAs are still announced. > >=20 > > MAC addresses of laptop which announces Rogue RA are > >=20 > > 00:1b:77:bc:a4:e6 > > 00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2 > >=20 > > Please STOP announcement of Rogue RA !!! > >=20 > > -- Yuji Sekiya > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees --=20 Masafumi OE, Astronomy Data Center, NAOJ. _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From hinoue@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp Mon Nov 9 22:05:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B7A28B56A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:05:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.601, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id COuGpltrAxUP for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:05:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.40.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C14928C0FC for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:05:17 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: a5f21604-b7c6aae000004184-2b-4af902b71b67 Received: from oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.42.120]) by (Symantec Brightmail Gateway sbg1-outbound) with SMTP id F5.3A.16772.7B209FA4; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:05:43 +0900 (JST) Received: from [133.93.16.49] (host-16-49.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.49]) by oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BFE3BC002; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:05:43 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:05:36 +0900 From: Hiroyuki INOUE To: Stig Venaas In-Reply-To: <4AF7A6DE.1080308@venaas.com> References: <4AF7A1D9.1030000@tele.no> <4AF7A6DE.1080308@venaas.com> Message-Id: <20091110150536.B1A1.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.51.05 [ja] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Indian Pale Ale in Hiroshima? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:05:18 -0000 > If anyone knows where to find Japanese craft beers, please speak up. Two > really great Japanese microbreweries are Hitachino and Kadoya. They are > available outside Japan too. There is "Kure Beer" of microbrewery in Hiroshima Prefecture. (Kure is adjacent city of Hiroshima City) http://www.kurebeer.com/f01.html (in Japanese) The brands of Kure Beer are "Kaigun-san no beer" ($B3$73$5$s$NG~ wrote: > Frode Kileng wrote: > > Don't know about the IPA's you're listing but tasted a great Japanese > > IPA Saturday at Golden Garden. It's called W-IPA and I think it's brewed > > by the Minoi brewery from Osaka. > > I would be very surprised to find e.g. the excellent Smutty Nose here. > I've done some investigations and my hopes are not very high for craft > beers here. > > If anyone knows where to find Japanese craft beers, please speak up. Two > really great Japanese microbreweries are Hitachino and Kadoya. They are > available outside Japan too. > > Stig > > > frodek > > > > Loa Andersson wrote: > >> Anyone that know if there are a place to get a good IPA, > >> preferable Smutty Nose, Bells 2 Hearted or Hoop otin' (AVBC). > >> > >> /Loa > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > >> Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > >> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > >> Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > >> +46 767 72 92 13 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 76attendees mailing list -- Hiroyuki INOUE Graduate School of Information Sciences, Hiroshima City University From keiji@sfc.keio.ac.jp Mon Nov 9 22:52:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC7D3A6920 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:52:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dkw3JL7w3qZp for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gw2.sfc.keio.ac.jp (mail-gw2.sfc.keio.ac.jp [133.27.4.128]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73503A6824 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:52:24 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEANec+EqFGwXK/2dsb2JhbACEcsZUAYIxjjYCgS2COFcEgmCJKw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,714,1249225200"; d="scan'208";a="7742005" Received: from imap02.sfc.keio.ac.jp ([133.27.5.202]) by mail-gw2.sfc.keio.ac.jp with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2009 15:52:50 +0900 Received: from host-32-143.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.32.143]) by imap02.sfc.keio.ac.jp with esmtpsa (Exim 4.69 #1 (Debian-smtps)) id 1N7kav-0007CZ-SB; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:52:49 +0900 Message-ID: <4AF90DBD.5050705@sfc.keio.ac.jp> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:52:45 +0900 From: Keiji Takeda User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hiroyuki INOUE References: <4AF7A1D9.1030000@tele.no> <4AF7A6DE.1080308@venaas.com> <20091110150536.B1A1.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> In-Reply-To: <20091110150536.B1A1.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Indian Pale Ale in Hiroshima? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:52:25 -0000 If you are looking for microbrewery beer in Hiroshima I googled one in walk distance though it is not an IPA. Heiwa Kobo has its brewery and own local beer brand of Heiwa. (meaning 'peace' in Japanese) http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?hl=en&view=map&cid=9778242987587394552&ved=0CBEQpQY&ei=3gr5SsmZOoL0NPSgnLYP&ll=34.39379,132.464004&spn=0.008287,0.01929&z=16&iwloc=A keiji >> If anyone knows where to find Japanese craft beers, please speak up. Two >> really great Japanese microbreweries are Hitachino and Kadoya. They are >> available outside Japan too. > > There is "Kure Beer" of microbrewery in Hiroshima Prefecture. > (Kure is adjacent city of Hiroshima City) > http://www.kurebeer.com/f01.html (in Japanese) > > The brands of Kure Beer are "Kaigun-san no beer" ($B3$73$5$s$NG~ and "Kujira beer" ($B7_%S!<%k(B). > (Kaigun in Japanese means the navy, Kujira means whale) > > The restrant of Kure Beer is located at the east of JR Kure station, > Kure City. From the venue, it takes 30 minutes from JR Hiroshima sta. > to JR Kure sta. using JR Kure line. > > If you visit to Kure, Yamato Museum is great! (my recommendation!) > Yamato was the largest battle ship of Japan in world war II, > constracted in Kure, Hiroshima. > Yamato Museum is located in the south of JR Kure station, > 5 minutes walk from the station, directly connected the passageway. > http://www.yamato-museum.com/en/ > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDPBpeaUZaY > > Thank you. > > On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:21:34 -0800 > Stig Venaas wrote: >> Frode Kileng wrote: >>> Don't know about the IPA's you're listing but tasted a great Japanese >>> IPA Saturday at Golden Garden. It's called W-IPA and I think it's brewed >>> by the Minoi brewery from Osaka. >> I would be very surprised to find e.g. the excellent Smutty Nose here. >> I've done some investigations and my hopes are not very high for craft >> beers here. >> >> If anyone knows where to find Japanese craft beers, please speak up. Two >> really great Japanese microbreweries are Hitachino and Kadoya. They are >> available outside Japan too. >> >> Stig >> >>> frodek >>> >>> Loa Andersson wrote: >>>> Anyone that know if there are a place to get a good IPA, >>>> preferable Smutty Nose, Bells 2 Hearted or Hoop otin' (AVBC). >>>> >>>> /Loa >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com >>>> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu >>>> Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 >>>> +46 767 72 92 13 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 76attendees mailing list > > From charliep@computer.org Mon Nov 9 23:03:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6510F3A6A03 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:03:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id deVHP17iqwhL for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:03:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2648E3A693C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:03:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [133.93.20.35] by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1N7klI-0002Y2-St for 76attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:03:33 -0500 Message-ID: <4AF91042.6070504@computer.org> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:03:30 -0800 From: "Charles E. Perkins" Organization: Wichorus Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 137d7d78656ed6919973fd6a8f21c4f2d780f4a490ca6956abb457f1b4332f5232a6327e185e9c6887a25b6c7391f0a4350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 133.93.20.35 Subject: [76attendees] Social ticket needed X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: charliep@computer.org List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:03:07 -0000 Hello, If anyone has a social ticket I could buy, that would be very gratefully appreciated. Also, in case I am not getting email from [76attendees], please send me email: charliep@computer.org -- but maybe I am actually getting the attendees email now (finally!!). Thanks in advance, Charlie P. From hinoue@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp Mon Nov 9 23:14:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973B03A67F6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:14:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.725 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.725 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.785, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tywxf7hHpRbZ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:14:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.40.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0263A68CB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:14:30 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: a5f21605-b7bf5ae000001e19-c6-4af912f08ad0 Received: from oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.42.120]) by (Symantec Brightmail Gateway sbg2-outbound) with SMTP id 23.16.07705.0F219FA4; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:14:56 +0900 (JST) Received: from [133.93.16.49] (host-16-49.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.49]) by oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5026B3BC002 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:14:56 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:14:49 +0900 From: Hiroyuki INOUE To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-Id: <20091110161432.531F.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.51.05 [ja] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: [76attendees] Shop info. for Digital equipments and toys X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:14:31 -0000 There are some stores which handle a lastest digital camera or a notebook PC near by the venue. - DEODEO CompMart http://www.deodeo.co.jp/honten/compmart/map.html (in Japanese) 1st floor - digital camera, lens, digital audio 3rd floor - PC parts and peripherals, software 4th floor - Win/Mac PC 10 minutes walk from the venue, west side of Hondori Shopping Street http://areamap.ietf76.jp/lunch/shop/?confer=1&genre=1&shop=202 - DEODEO NeverLand ($B%M%P!<%i%s%I(B) http://www.deodeo.co.jp/neverland/access.html (in Japanese) 1st floor - toys, picture book 2nd floor - TV games (Nintendo, SONY, Xbox), radio controlled model, puzzle 3rd floor - plastic model, railway model, figures (doll) just south of DEODEO CompMart - Yamada Denki ($B%d%^%@EE5!(B) http://www.yamada-denki.jp/store/contents/shop_300.html (in Japanese) electric appliance, digital camera, PC peripherals, toys, plastic model 8 minutes walk from the venue, east side of Hondori Shopping Street http://areamap.ietf76.jp/lunch/shop/?confer=1&genre=1&shop=203 - BicCamera Best Hiroshima ($B%S%C%/%+%a%i(B $B%Y%9%H9-EgE9(B) http://www.biccamera.co.jp/shoplist/hiroshima.html (in Japanese) 1st floor - digital camera, lens 2nd floor - Win/Mac PC, PC peripherals, software 5th floor - watch, games, DVD/CD, toys, plastic model near by the JR Hiroshima station, about 700 yen by taxi from the venue http://areamap.ietf76.jp/lunch/shop/?confer=1&genre=1&shop=204 Have a fun! -- Hiroyuki INOUE Graduate School of Information Sciences, Hiroshima City University From keiji@sfc.keio.ac.jp Mon Nov 9 23:37:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AF93A692F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:37:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mn7qGDGpJvqr for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:37:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gw2.sfc.keio.ac.jp (mail-gw2.sfc.keio.ac.jp [133.27.4.128]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C20B3A67DD for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:37:38 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAGKn+EqFGwXQ/2dsb2JhbACEcsZvAYIxjj0CgS2COFcEgmA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,715,1249225200"; d="scan'208";a="7742394" Received: from imap08.sfc.keio.ac.jp ([133.27.5.208]) by mail-gw2.sfc.keio.ac.jp with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2009 16:38:05 +0900 Received: from s78.gosakafl6.vectant.ne.jp ([202.215.111.78] helo=[172.16.3.2]) by imap08.sfc.keio.ac.jp with esmtpsa (Exim 4.69 #1 (Debian-smtps)) id 1N7lIj-0000OX-5n for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:38:05 +0900 Message-ID: <4AF91858.5030406@sfc.keio.ac.jp> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:38:00 +0900 From: Keiji Takeda User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <4AF7A1D9.1030000@tele.no> <4AF7A6DE.1080308@venaas.com> <20091110150536.B1A1.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> <4AF90DBD.5050705@sfc.keio.ac.jp> In-Reply-To: <4AF90DBD.5050705@sfc.keio.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Indian Pale Ale in Hiroshima? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:37:40 -0000 Some more info. If you stick to IPA ... SAM'S CAFE 13 seems having some IPAs at least RED HOOK IPA. http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?spn=0.015688,0.038581&z=15&iwloc=A&cid=10272560217759035767 Irish Pubs where they have many kinds of beers. MOLLY MALONE'S http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?spn=0.016573,0.038581&z=15&iwloc=A&cid=2473177289697879061 Celtic http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?spn=0.016572,0.038581&z=15&iwloc=A&cid=3344350052949123696 > If you are looking for microbrewery beer in Hiroshima > I googled one in walk distance though it is not an IPA. > > Heiwa Kobo has its brewery and own local beer brand of Heiwa. > (meaning 'peace' in Japanese) > > http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?hl=en&view=map&cid=9778242987587394552&ved=0CBEQpQY&ei=3gr5SsmZOoL0NPSgnLYP&ll=34.39379,132.464004&spn=0.008287,0.01929&z=16&iwloc=A > > keiji > >>> If anyone knows where to find Japanese craft beers, please speak up. Two >>> really great Japanese microbreweries are Hitachino and Kadoya. They are >>> available outside Japan too. >> There is "Kure Beer" of microbrewery in Hiroshima Prefecture. >> (Kure is adjacent city of Hiroshima City) >> http://www.kurebeer.com/f01.html (in Japanese) >> >> The brands of Kure Beer are "Kaigun-san no beer" ($B3$73$5$s$NG~> and "Kujira beer" ($B7_%S!<%k(B). >> (Kaigun in Japanese means the navy, Kujira means whale) >> >> The restrant of Kure Beer is located at the east of JR Kure station, >> Kure City. From the venue, it takes 30 minutes from JR Hiroshima sta. >> to JR Kure sta. using JR Kure line. >> >> If you visit to Kure, Yamato Museum is great! (my recommendation!) >> Yamato was the largest battle ship of Japan in world war II, >> constracted in Kure, Hiroshima. >> Yamato Museum is located in the south of JR Kure station, >> 5 minutes walk from the station, directly connected the passageway. >> http://www.yamato-museum.com/en/ >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDPBpeaUZaY >> >> Thank you. >> >> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:21:34 -0800 >> Stig Venaas wrote: >>> Frode Kileng wrote: >>>> Don't know about the IPA's you're listing but tasted a great Japanese >>>> IPA Saturday at Golden Garden. It's called W-IPA and I think it's brewed >>>> by the Minoi brewery from Osaka. >>> I would be very surprised to find e.g. the excellent Smutty Nose here. >>> I've done some investigations and my hopes are not very high for craft >>> beers here. >>> >>> If anyone knows where to find Japanese craft beers, please speak up. Two >>> really great Japanese microbreweries are Hitachino and Kadoya. They are >>> available outside Japan too. >>> >>> Stig >>> >>>> frodek >>>> >>>> Loa Andersson wrote: >>>>> Anyone that know if there are a place to get a good IPA, >>>>> preferable Smutty Nose, Bells 2 Hearted or Hoop otin' (AVBC). >>>>> >>>>> /Loa >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com >>>>> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu >>>>> Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 >>>>> +46 767 72 92 13 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> 76attendees mailing list >> > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From masato.minda@gmail.com Mon Nov 9 23:38:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3D73A6974 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:38:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.623 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.623 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NsDvrWtP1xvH for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:38:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-px0-f204.google.com (mail-px0-f204.google.com [209.85.216.204]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9876D3A67DD for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:38:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by pxi42 with SMTP id 42so2679153pxi.5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:39:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tMrH5q7iVXrGWigaX1wU8Wt4mnrDFfqywgTJTAxztOE=; b=McfYxMNiIMrYvAm7UCUCg1ajoB3C46YQztJ7LR8x6ebg1Q55GMDWpn7wNwnAKpPq7y bH/DU/DUBZ5Vw6XCkRg7QkroNk6VpfstAVKkrHRN3zOM9actMHh38zG+v4BLzAgJbUTw eIb2mCBMeOPTdQXSZnkVhS/ES2zN8JG6spZMY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Bj5XKyYQ19u4acI0ZVpjs0WWi3kCYE2XhwentJvibVNhr85LnGEfIZg5nwuViysP6I o1hhAZeJz4PSiB33U6z8JIWoeV5A0ikvTmE6XuYZJs/Enu3LMkkglLhbaJmp5rb0+/ub TS1R8vMl8HKfTBAzVwAvmzmOYmxF395b2wmUw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: masato.minda@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.1.27 with SMTP id 27mr995977wfa.287.1257838758935; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:39:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF90DBD.5050705@sfc.keio.ac.jp> References: <4AF7A1D9.1030000@tele.no> <4AF7A6DE.1080308@venaas.com> <20091110150536.B1A1.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> <4AF90DBD.5050705@sfc.keio.ac.jp> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:39:18 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9e8a54e109584cc1 Message-ID: <2413266f0911092339m2ffc0df2v8165c5a6281b8b07@mail.gmail.com> From: Masato Minda To: Keiji Takeda Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Indian Pale Ale in Hiroshima? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:40:17 -0000 I examined it on the WEB page. Heiwa-Kobo seems to have closed the store. 2009$BG/(B11$B7n(B10$BF|(B15:52 Keiji Takeda : > If you are looking for microbrewery beer in Hiroshima > I googled one in walk distance though it is not an IPA. > > Heiwa Kobo has its brewery and own local beer brand of Heiwa. > (meaning 'peace' in Japanese) > > http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?hl=en&view=map&cid=9778242987587394552&ved=0CBEQpQY&ei=3gr5SsmZOoL0NPSgnLYP&ll=34.39379,132.464004&spn=0.008287,0.01929&z=16&iwloc=A From rvdp@rvdp.org Mon Nov 9 23:45:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1695F3A6A41 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:45:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.096 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.096 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.503, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id httIqAIy-o2i for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:45:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from kirk.rvdp.org (kirk.rvdp.org [IPv6:2001:610:108:87::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4A93A697F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:45:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from kirk.rvdp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kirk.rvdp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA7kD4g085865 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:46:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rvdp@kirk.rvdp.org) Received: (from rvdp@localhost) by kirk.rvdp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nAA7kDrK085864 for 76attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:46:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rvdp) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:46:08 +0900 From: Ronald van der Pol To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <20091110074607.GA272@rvdp.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: [76attendees] social logistics? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:45:50 -0000 --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline At what time do the busses leave? rvdp --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkr5Gj8ACgkQQKieiDfP4G4UAwCeIPyM92efCa2C33mTQRphCpSY 66UAn3N7643OjuurQAt49aKnfXxJN1xy =btin -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY-- From keiji@sfc.keio.ac.jp Mon Nov 9 23:47:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FCF3A67DD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:47:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.21 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.21 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.300, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lQwReiBPo0+9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:47:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gw2.sfc.keio.ac.jp (mail-gw2.sfc.keio.ac.jp [133.27.4.128]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274143A692F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:47:07 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEALup+EqFGwXK/2dsb2JhbACEcsZrAZBygS+BBIE0VwSCYA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,715,1249225200"; d="scan'208";a="7742469" Received: from imap02.sfc.keio.ac.jp ([133.27.5.202]) by mail-gw2.sfc.keio.ac.jp with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2009 16:47:33 +0900 Received: from s78.gosakafl6.vectant.ne.jp ([202.215.111.78] helo=[172.16.3.2]) by imap02.sfc.keio.ac.jp with esmtpsa (Exim 4.69 #1 (Debian-smtps)) id 1N7lRt-0000DJ-Ou for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:47:33 +0900 Message-ID: <4AF91A90.9080203@sfc.keio.ac.jp> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:47:28 +0900 From: Keiji Takeda User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <4AF7A1D9.1030000@tele.no> <4AF7A6DE.1080308@venaas.com> <20091110150536.B1A1.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> <4AF90DBD.5050705@sfc.keio.ac.jp> <2413266f0911092339m2ffc0df2v8165c5a6281b8b07@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2413266f0911092339m2ffc0df2v8165c5a6281b8b07@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Indian Pale Ale in Hiroshima? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:47:08 -0000 Yeah, I'm sorry, it has been closed. thank you for your update. Keiji > I examined it on the WEB page. Heiwa-Kobo seems to have closed the store. > > 2009$BG/(B11$B7n(B10$BF|(B15:52 Keiji Takeda : >> If you are looking for microbrewery beer in Hiroshima >> I googled one in walk distance though it is not an IPA. >> >> Heiwa Kobo has its brewery and own local beer brand of Heiwa. >> (meaning 'peace' in Japanese) >> >> http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?hl=en&view=map&cid=9778242987587394552&ved=0CBEQpQY&ei=3gr5SsmZOoL0NPSgnLYP&ll=34.39379,132.464004&spn=0.008287,0.01929&z=16&iwloc=A > From osamu@wide.ad.jp Mon Nov 9 23:48:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46FFD28C10A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:48:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.179 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.179 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vk4IVA-SF0Ub for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:48:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772FD3A6A5C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:48:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::16:224:36ff:feed:1303] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:224:36ff:feed:1303]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3A7874C61B; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:48:56 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-57-359262126; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQ2ZCPBsoQiAbJEI9JBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <20091110074607.GA272@rvdp.org> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:48:56 +0900 Message-Id: <8846C14A-D46D-466B-9384-FAC64B68F4BA@wide.ad.jp> References: <20091110074607.GA272@rvdp.org> To: Ronald van der Pol X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] social logistics? 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smtp.bbn.com (smtp.bbn.com [128.33.1.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0923A693C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:50:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.89.252.95] (helo=[133.93.18.211]) by smtp.bbn.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7lVC-0006pw-AA; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:50:58 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:59:51 -0500 To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Karen Seo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: [76attendees] Wanted: t-shirt coupon X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:50:34 -0000 I'd love to get an extra IETF t-shirt for a friend but was told they're only available in exchange for the t-shirt coupons/tickets. There's some chance they'll have some left over at the end of the week, but they're already running out of sizes. So if you would like to sell me your t-shirt coupon, please let me know and we can arrange a time/place to meet. Thank you, Karen Seo From simon.perreault@viagenie.ca Mon Nov 9 23:53:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D90128C0FD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:53:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.375 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.375 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UqavbeprxkxK for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:53:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6379728C10D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:53:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-16-233.meeting.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:20a:95ff:fef7:a2af]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 18CFA20E1F; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:53:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4AF91BFF.3040802@viagenie.ca> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:53:35 +0900 From: Simon Perreault User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?5Lit5p2RIOS/rg==?= References: <20091110074607.GA272@rvdp.org> <8846C14A-D46D-466B-9384-FAC64B68F4BA@wide.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: <8846C14A-D46D-466B-9384-FAC64B68F4BA@wide.ad.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] social logistics? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:53:13 -0000 ä¸­æ‘ ä¿® wrote: > First bus will be ready at 17:30 front of hotel Who to trust? ;) Alexa Morris wrote: > Transportation will be provided by bus from the ANA starting at 18:30. Can you please confirm that 17:30 is not a typo? Thanks, Simon -- DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca vCard 4.0 --> http://www.vcarddav.org From amorris@amsl.com Tue Nov 10 00:00:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A164328C133 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:00:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9M5FGnh11Y3J for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:00:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1::14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A773A6A6B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:00:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c1a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF4CE07E6; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:01:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c1a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c1a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id phgTWCqT4S1h; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:01:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-16-25.meeting.ietf.org (host-16-25.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.25]) by c1a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8F644E07CD; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:01:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <229E6D42-5A23-4998-9BC7-84DC92F485CB@amsl.com> From: Alexa Morris To: Simon Perreault In-Reply-To: <4AF91BFF.3040802@viagenie.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:01:13 -0800 References: <20091110074607.GA272@rvdp.org> <8846C14A-D46D-466B-9384-FAC64B68F4BA@wide.ad.jp> <4AF91BFF.3040802@viagenie.ca> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] social logistics? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:00:49 -0000 The timing has changed, and they are now departing at 17:30. Sorry for =20= any confusion. Alexa On Nov 9, 2009, at 11:53 PM, Simon Perreault wrote: > =E4=B8=AD=E6=9D=91 =E4=BF=AE wrote: >> First bus will be ready at 17:30 front of hotel > > Who to trust? ;) > > Alexa Morris wrote: >> Transportation will be provided by bus from the ANA starting at =20 >> 18:30. > > Can you please confirm that 17:30 is not a typo? > > Thanks, > Simon > --=20 > DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca > STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca > vCard 4.0 --> http://www.vcarddav.org > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees ----------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com From scott@e-side.co.jp Tue Nov 10 00:01:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573A73A6A6B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:01:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.21 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qL1KLRN5qcPj for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:01:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.e-side.co.jp (www.e-side.co.jp [202.45.165.133]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3C13A6A03 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:01:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 11606 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2009 17:02:22 +0900 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (133.93.6.37) by www.e-side.co.jp with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 17:02:22 +0900 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:02:22 +0900 From: scott To: Simon Perreault Message-ID: <20091110170222.034ff74c@e-side.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <4AF91BFF.3040802@viagenie.ca> References: <20091110074607.GA272@rvdp.org> <8846C14A-D46D-466B-9384-FAC64B68F4BA@wide.ad.jp> <4AF91BFF.3040802@viagenie.ca> Organization: e-side X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] social logistics? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:01:58 -0000 > =E4=B8=AD=E6=9D=91 =E4=BF=AE wrote: > > First bus will be ready at 17:30 front of hotel >=20 > Who to trust? ;) trust those who have arranged for the buses ;> the buses will be ready to leave the front of the ANA at 17:30. This is not a typo. As there are 14 buses and there are sessions running until 18:10 I expect there will still be buses leaving up until 18:30. the social begins at 19:00.=20 buses will begin returning from the Prince Hotel (social venue) at 21:00 and will stop at the ANA and the five overflow hotels (SunRoute, Rihga, Granvia, Oriental, Mitsui Garden - not necessarily in this order). again because of the number of attendees and buses I expect buses will be leaving the Prince up until around 22:00. scott >=20 > Alexa Morris wrote: > > Transportation will be provided by bus from the ANA > > starting at 18:30. >=20 > Can you please confirm that 17:30 is not a typo? >=20 > Thanks, > Simon > --=20 > DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca > STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca > vCard 4.0 --> http://www.vcarddav.org > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From hinoue@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp Tue Nov 10 00:15:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED203A69AD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:15:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.73 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.73 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.594, BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MxTYIZeILwlH for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:15:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.40.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083B93A695C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:15:53 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: a5f21604-b7c6aae000004184-39-4af9215402ec Received: from oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.42.120]) by (Symantec Brightmail Gateway sbg1-outbound) with SMTP id 10.CA.16772.45129FA4; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:16:20 +0900 (JST) Received: from [133.93.16.49] (host-16-49.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.49]) by oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33753BC002 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:16:19 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:16:13 +0900 From: Hiroyuki INOUE To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-Id: <20091110171610.5326.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.51.05 [ja] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: [76attendees] Any volunteer who carries about and uses a interpreter-service mobile phone X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:15:55 -0000 I'm forwarding message from a bureau of Hiroshima city: It seems very convenient service to visit a shop or restrant, when the clerk cannot understand/speak English at all (usually in Japan!). If you will apply the mobile phone or have any questions, please contact to kikaku@mix-net.co.jp . ====== Any volunteer who carries about and uses a interpreter-service mobile phone Details Invite Applications for the Interpreter Service Using an Exclusive Mobile Phone (ICT Policy Division, ICT Policy Department, The City of Hiroshima) During "the 76th IETF Meeting in Hiroshima", the city provides IETF attendees with the interpreter service using an exclusive mobile phone as the municipal "Practical ICT Experiment". Interpretation is available between English and Japanese. This service is available from 8:30am to 8:30pm The following is a brief outline of the recruit process. - The recruit is schedule to take place until November 11th at noon (Japanese Time). - The applications will be accepted to the first 10 arrivals. - Those accepted are noticed by email in reference to the delivery of the equipment and how to use it. Points to notice - You are requested to fill in a questionnaire which measures your degree of satisfaction after the service. - The service is free of charge but you are asked to pay for the actual expense relating to the loss or damage of equipment due to your fault. Your personal information is strictly confined to the use of pertinent contacts with us in this experimental service and will be deleted right after expiry. To apply If you would like to employ this service, please send the following information to the contract company of this project, Mix Co., Ltd. by email being attached it to the text. Subject: Application for the interpreter service using a mobile phone Name: Email: Telephone: Hotel: --- Mix Co., Ltd (contract company for the construction and operation business of ICT Interpreter Service System) Honkawa Riverside Bld. 2F 2-6-3, Honkawa-cho, Naka-ku, Hiroshima City TEL: 082-292-3652 Fax:082-292-9177 E-mail: kikaku@mix-net.co.jp Person Responsible: Kitagawa, Saito, Shinkawa From spencer@wonderhamster.org Tue Nov 10 00:32:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417E328C11A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:32:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.006, BAYES_50=0.001, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8F3VQnzYejFI for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:32:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BD228C10A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:32:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from S73602b (host-24-135.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.135]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MLNQw-1N8KO62zbe-0000Zu; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:32:54 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: <76attendees@ietf.org> References: <20091110074607.GA272@rvdp.org> <8846C14A-D46D-466B-9384-FAC64B68F4BA@wide.ad.jp> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:32:37 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/TxQfa+BjBvlGSD40YN4Plaju2HfZoLiS2zro biYdQQUryhmYRvZMRn1BbjUCNDPBwcBrJtcbEVv+87aGglhdu2 tc+j66PtUrq47dytatpxe3VndYE0CQIL4hDfhJSitA= Subject: [76attendees] Need an extra ticket for the social? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:32:30 -0000 I can't make myself go (just worn out) tonight - I'm sitting at the IETF Administrative Director table on the third floor. First come, please bring Japanese or US cash. Thanks, Spencer From spencer@wonderhamster.org Tue Nov 10 00:39:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D1743A6889 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:39:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.364 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.364 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.376, BAYES_20=-0.74] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ItgCIt4JVd1n for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:39:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6A33A690F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:39:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from S73602b (host-24-135.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.135]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LvlsC-1M2sGz35GW-0186MS; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:39:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: <76attendees@ietf.org> References: <20091110074607.GA272@rvdp.org><8846C14A-D46D-466B-9384-FAC64B68F4BA@wide.ad.jp> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:39:38 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/nrKIVENecH5kSHx+TPb02SFS6m5XAItxuHDe P1lN4SKsfZJR8N4qgGuX/CsWwy5mClEWDTZy8qNy1oxgc3nJGv IcxrQjRhTeGaQqSb50b+kdM4UOJQFIK60bHaGUVvbE= Subject: Re: [76attendees] Need an extra ticket for the social? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:39:47 -0000 Gone to first person - and thanks! Spencer >I can't make myself go (just worn out) tonight - I'm sitting at the IETF >Administrative Director table on the third floor. First come, please bring >Japanese or US cash. > > Thanks, > > Spencer From masa@fumi.org Tue Nov 10 02:41:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F9428C0EE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:41:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.432 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.432 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.522, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4F63ZxEHcFMs for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta.nao.ac.jp (mta1-ext.mtk.nao.ac.jp [133.40.6.5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12FA93A693E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:41:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from anago.fumi.org (sslvpn-39-226.mtk.nao.ac.jp [133.40.39.226]) by mta.nao.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96D2E65E5; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:41:51 +0900 (JST) Received: by anago.fumi.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A70ED2B455; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:41:45 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:41:45 +0900 From: Masafumi OE To: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Message-ID: <20091110104145.GA2743@anago.fumi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: ietf-noc@wide.ad.jp Subject: [76attendees] IETF76 WiFi is avaiable in the restrant `Fruitier' X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:41:26 -0000 Dear folks, IETF76 Wi-Fi is new available in the casual dining "Fruitier" on the 1st floor in the ANA hotel. You can look a new Wi-Fi access point installed in the wine cellar of the restaurant. We hope you enjoyed it. -- Masafumi OE, Astronomy Data Center, NAOJ/ WIDE From spencer@wonderhamster.org Tue Nov 10 04:30:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899B628C198 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:30:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.644 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.644 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.095, BAYES_20=-0.74, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id juIfxOxABTpz for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:30:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC0128C0D6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:30:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from S73602b (host-193-214.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.193.214]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Lrd0n-1M6xGE1TET-013zJ1; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:31:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: <76attendees@ietf.org> References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:30:47 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+YjCTSqlq1mMiku8Hc+J/QyckhaTpmY7e1lHc PlZ1YhctDeVDiwyS8LvXs4IPWoE0Q9mpmm9uGMXWZv7PvyswB+ l8Z8ILJum8nr8s0OapOnTmfuHrDwOQ6AYwwZSwyC+I= Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:30:46 -0000 What Paul said. In addition, it's very helpful for chairs when we have a bunch of attendees that we don't know by sight. I have one new working group, but all three of the meetings I co-chaired on Monday had attendees I didn't recognize (I'm sure that's just because of the meeting location). > Very useful for those of us who volunteer to take minutes. I do wish it was more responsive (it seems like about half the mike speakers end up dorking with their badges before they finally see their information appear), but i'm assuming that just happens over time like every other technology. Spencer From ietf@thomasclausen.org Tue Nov 10 04:36:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD43728C0D6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:36:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.484 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.484 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.114, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CLqZHdezk+-L for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:36:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.mail.tigertech.net (hermes.mail.tigertech.net [64.62.209.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009523A6862 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABAE43008D; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:37:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hermes.tigertech.net Received: from [192.168.190.2] (host-113-143.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.113.143]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B32430087; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:37:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <7CAF091A-438C-4418-9B69-C476F30CF803@thomasclausen.org> From: Thomas Heide Clausen To: "Spencer Dawkins" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9-376552609 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) X-Priority: 3 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:37:06 +0900 References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:36:42 -0000 --Apple-Mail-9-376552609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:30 PM, Spencer Dawkins wrote: > What Paul said. In addition, it's very helpful for chairs when we > have a bunch of attendees that we don't know by sight. I have one > new working group, but all three of the meetings I co-chaired on > Monday had attendees I didn't recognize (I'm sure that's just > because of the meeting location). > > >> Very useful for those of us who volunteer to take minutes. > > I do wish it was more responsive (it seems like about half the mike > speakers end up dorking with their badges before they finally see > their information appear), but i'm assuming that just happens over > time like every other technology. I think that the RFID experiment has been helpful thus far. Yes, there has been a technical glitch or two, but that's to expect from a first trial like this in an IETF. While we're at it, two more technical things would be good to see in the future: o a Jabber robot echoing the speaker name to the Jabber room; o (likely more complicated) a text-to-speech robot injecting the speaker name on the audio-stream. I noticed that these would be handy when trying to be in one meeting and following with one ear the discussions in another concurrent session this afternoon. All in all, however, I think that the initiative of the RFID team has been quite excellent. Thomas --Apple-Mail-9-376552609 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Nov 10, 2009, = at 9:30 PM, Spencer Dawkins wrote:

What = Paul said. In addition, it's very helpful for chairs when we have a = bunch of attendees that we don't know by sight. I have one new working = group, but all three of the meetings I co-chaired on Monday had = attendees I didn't recognize (I'm sure that's just because of the = meeting location).


Very useful for = those of us who volunteer to take minutes.

I do wish = it was more responsive (it seems like about half the mike speakers end = up dorking with their badges before they finally see their information = appear), but i'm assuming that just happens over time like every other = technology.

I = think that the RFID experiment has been helpful thus far. Yes, there has = been a technical glitch or two, but that's to expect from a first trial = like this in an IETF.

While we're at it, two = more technical things would be good to see in the = future:

o a Jabber robot echoing the = speaker name to the Jabber room;

o (likely = more complicated) a text-to-speech robot injecting the speaker = name
= on the audio-stream.

I noticed = that these would be handy when trying to be in one meeting and following = with one ear the discussions in another concurrent session this = afternoon.

All in all, however, I think that = the initiative of the RFID team has been quite = excellent.

Thomas
= --Apple-Mail-9-376552609-- From scott.brim@gmail.com Tue Nov 10 04:37:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F303A6862 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:37:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.563 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.563 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.036, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rX48wARKGFrz for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:37:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f183.google.com (mail-yw0-f183.google.com [209.85.211.183]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB47F3A6AB9 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:37:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywh13 with SMTP id 13so4281373ywh.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:37:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/aJ+U7gkIhoa3u6qBPPvT0GISLq4Nk9TeyPCM1d4xkc=; b=jQHk/VKV+q4FZpj2tjndfGoOLDIh1x6rWgRphwBiaytEmh1arylG8N6wH1SiPsE60x B/SvGzNBOeGvJ0irHFmuSobNCA8fa+GrekEx4y4UCSOTWKTHy7tpgAk8nDjsvxNz9tsZ niuTEUzQjNIdcBlPGeKvOsYs37PQpy0B9LSiQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=VeJkaPDSQesqiZi1TTwqS52RqEUyr2TN/8b94UMEU9epkgIg0tLhyq7Fdx/jkHLNgn 30dqZ+bdOe/M13LAejlGTc/se4jJBbgiCkUAFU4JC3JtY9LIZBn+3itClVuI+WaW8W4O iKUWOfjHjhXm5zQOKrGeixTN9IKSbQKz//e6c= Received: by 10.150.46.21 with SMTP id t21mr122701ybt.234.1257856643862; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:37:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-128-34.meeting.ietf.org (198-135-0-233.cisco.com [198.135.0.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm272297ywf.55.2009.11.10.04.37.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:37:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF95E7E.10306@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:37:18 +0900 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Spencer Dawkins References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:37:02 -0000 Spencer Dawkins allegedly wrote on 11/10/2009 9:30 PM: > I do wish it was more responsive (it seems like about half the mike > speakers end up dorking with their badges before they finally see their > information appear), but i'm assuming that just happens over time like > every other technology. I consider it pilot error. From spencer@wonderhamster.org Tue Nov 10 04:38:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415243A6ABC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:38:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.587 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.587 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.012, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r54V0C2hDfZP for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:38:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBC53A6AB9 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:38:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from S73602b (host-193-214.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.193.214]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MSceq-1MiV4v08kW-00S28M; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:39:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: "Samuel Weiler" , "Wes Hardaker" References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com><4AF8BCCB.6010204@psg.com><21ef2c1c0911091709k622acfb3s2f7bfa25e3d02dee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:38:49 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18OBTxotRTv5cYAe1to3ocL6n5ObqV1TXXHbQW 0m9AdX+UmNMCWynysT5YdoSroKIK/Hx7voRzeF9yoAg3QL6NB3 8ddarbfrx7XoCGB0YTKhQMmt+93SRv5ANvJloea72w= Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:38:47 -0000 Sam, > On a more practical note, while the speaker name display is useful in the > room (esp. for scribes), I've seen people tend away from announcing > themselves verbally , which makes things trickier for those listening to > the audio stream (or the audio archive). Your mileage may vary, but I can't remember a meeting where more than half the people consistently announced themselves at the mike - I used to stop people and ask (as chair) but decided that was just being obnoxious. What would be helpful would be putting this information in Jabber when a tag is swiped - that's about half of what many jabber scribes do, and it's pretty close to being automated. Nice. I should also mention that it's nice (as note-taker) to not have to crank my head around looking for faces when I don't recognize voices - I can keep my eyes forward where my laptop is. Spencer From vincent.levigneron@nic.fr Tue Nov 10 04:48:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46E23A6903 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:48:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.835 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.835 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YuZToLItGoLd for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:48:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.nic.fr (mx2.nic.fr [192.134.4.11]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9627E3A68B7 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:48:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.nic.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.nic.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 40B6F1C01B1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:43:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from relay2.nic.fr (relay2.nic.fr [192.134.4.163]) by mx2.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2011C01A7 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:43:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from stardust.nic.fr (stardust.nic.fr [192.134.4.71]) by relay2.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1047B0036 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:43:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from stardust.nic.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stardust.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F80405BF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:43:54 +0100 (CET) Received: (from levigner@localhost) by stardust.nic.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id nAAChsXg027254 for 76attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:43:54 +0100 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:43:54 +0100 From: Vincent Levigneron To: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Message-ID: <20091110124354.GB25986@stardust.nic.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: AFNIC / NIC-France Subject: [76attendees] Noh masks in Hiroshima... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:48:29 -0000 Dear IETF-folks, Does anyone have an idea where to find Noh masks (http://www.nohmask21.com/eu/index.html) in Hiroshima ? Thank you in advance for your help. -- Vincent Levigneron A.F.N.I.C. Vincent.Levigneron@nic.fr From Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com Tue Nov 10 05:26:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1DF28C1AF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:26:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.529 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.529 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yWuJO4YfRFnM for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:26:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ilptiron01.ecitele.com (ilptiron01.ecitele.com [147.234.242.161]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6CC828C193 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:26:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ilptexfe.ecitele.com (HELO ilptexch01.ecitele.com) ([172.31.244.40]) by ilptiron01.ecitele.com with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2009 15:17:32 +0200 Received: from ILPTMAIL02.ecitele.com ([147.234.244.213]) by ilptexch01.ecitele.com ([172.31.244.40]) with mapi; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:27:03 +0200 From: Alexander Vainshtein To: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:27:09 +0200 Thread-Topic: did anybody find a small canon camera in a black bag? could be in one of the Orchid rooms, or near the IETF registration Thread-Index: AcpiCYEU1Y3x61QxRJmpSh8UViuetQ== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_A3C5DF08D38B6049839A6F553B331C76BF758BE0AFILPTMAIL02eci_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [76attendees] did anybody find a small canon camera in a black bag? could be in one of the Orchid rooms, or near the IETF registration X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:26:39 -0000 --_000_A3C5DF08D38B6049839A6F553B331C76BF758BE0AFILPTMAIL02eci_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --_000_A3C5DF08D38B6049839A6F553B331C76BF758BE0AFILPTMAIL02eci_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
--_000_A3C5DF08D38B6049839A6F553B331C76BF758BE0AFILPTMAIL02eci_-- From jgs@juniper.net Tue Nov 10 06:12:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B493A6AB9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:12:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.54 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.059, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G7QmZEydgCZr for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:12:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from exprod7og104.obsmtp.com (exprod7og104.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.161]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8B73A67D4 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:12:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob104.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKSvl01PzOpoKRcnOVUYyxy8mINJz4/VOb@postini.com; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:12:39 PST Received: from p-emfe01-sac.jnpr.net (66.129.254.72) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.375.2; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:24 -0800 Received: from p-emlb02-sac.jnpr.net ([66.129.254.47]) by p-emfe01-sac.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:24 -0800 Received: from emailsmtp55.jnpr.net ([172.24.18.132]) by p-emlb02-sac.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:23 -0800 Received: from magenta.juniper.net ([172.17.27.123]) by emailsmtp55.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:23 -0800 Received: from jgs-sslvpn-nc.jnpr.net (jgs-sslvpn-nc.jnpr.net [172.23.8.196]) by magenta.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id nAAE7Mj91556; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jgs@juniper.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: "John G. Scudder" In-Reply-To: <4AF95E7E.10306@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:07:22 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <7A9F7438-421A-43BD-83F2-C86394F8EB03@juniper.net> References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF95E7E.10306@gmail.com> To: Scott Brim X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2009 14:07:23.0417 (UTC) FILETIME=[1FFCC090:01CA620F] Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:12:13 -0000 On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:37 PM, Scott Brim wrote: > I consider it pilot error. Some blame the pilot, some the user interface. I think people's main job at the mic is to make their point plainly, not to cajole the RFID reader into recognizing them. Although it's best when it works straight off, from my POV the next best is for the speaker to give up without breaking stride, make his or her point, and move on. YMMV of course. --John From t-kinoshita@layer0.jp Tue Nov 10 08:10:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386433A6B20 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:10:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.511 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, MISSING_MIMEOLE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IcKdrVcZnzkR for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:10:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from nfmsa301g.nifmail.jp (nfmsa301g.nifmail.jp [210.131.2.173]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9316B3A6A05 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:10:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from aps301 (aps301 [172.22.231.64]) by nfmsa301g.nifmail.jp with ESMTP id nAAGB246004501; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:11:02 +0900 X-Nifty-SrcIP: [172.22.231.64] Message-ID: <18944086.342531257869462096.t-kinoshita@layer0.jp> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:11:02 +0900 (JST) From: KINOSHITA Takeshi Sender: layer0@mbn.nifty.com To: 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <20091110125944.B175.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Priority: normal Organization: SUO CableNet X-Mailer: @nifty Webmail 2.0 References: <20091110125944.B175.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> Subject: Re: [76attendees] second hand book store (comic) X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:10:59 -0000 Hi, Comic Torano-ana in Hiroshima handles no second hand books (There is ONLY new ones). > - Comic Torano-ana (small shop) > http://www.toranoana.jp/shop/ (in Japanese) > http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=34.393967,+132.455367&z=16 > 10 minutes walk from the venue, west side of Hondori Shopping Street > The shop handles mania (Otaku) comic and anime.. If you are interested in Japanese comics (Manga) or animations (Anime), I additionally recommends two shops below. .- Animate http://www.animate.co.jp/shop/shop_west/hiroshima/ (in Japanese) http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=34.395056,132.455238&z=18 - MelonBooks http://www.melonbooks.co.jp/contents/shopinfo/main.html#hiroshima (in Japa nese) http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=34.395056,132.455238&z=18 Animate and MelonBooks are in same building. -=--==-- -=-==-=- --==--=- --====-- --===--= -==--=-- --===-== -=--=-== Layer0 (IT Consultanting) KINOSHITA Takeshi t-kinoshita@layer0.jp 28 New-Town Minami-machi, Yanai-shi, Yamaguchi-ken, 742-0024, JAPAN Tel: +81-820-25-0112 FAX: +81-820-25-0510 From touch@ISI.EDU Tue Nov 10 12:52:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3593A6A06 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:52:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NsA5T1JIbhy3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:52:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from vapor.isi.edu (vapor.isi.edu [128.9.64.64]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E233A6900 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:52:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [133.93.113.124] (host-113-124.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.113.124]) (authenticated bits=0) by vapor.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nAAKqXvm004707 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:52:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF9D290.1090707@isi.edu> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:52:32 -0800 From: Joe Touch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Heide Clausen References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <7CAF091A-438C-4418-9B69-C476F30CF803@thomasclausen.org> In-Reply-To: <7CAF091A-438C-4418-9B69-C476F30CF803@thomasclausen.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ISI-4-43-8-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: touch@isi.edu Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:52:51 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Heide Clausen wrote: ... > While we're at it, two more technical things would be good to see in the > future: > > o a Jabber robot echoing the speaker name to the Jabber room; > > o (likely more complicated) a text-to-speech robot injecting the speaker > name > on the audio-stream. Well, this could be a lot simpler. E.g., the web page could accept an upload of a recorded message, so the author could speak their own name to be inserted. That could be supported either by individual users or could be supported at a "microphone stand" at the venue (e.g., near the RFID help desk). Joe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkr50pAACgkQE5f5cImnZrsrfACeITYZofTz4e0eW24pWyCN64h+ s0EAoLEul0YoLHaygZL0aqolB6e9cSXM =sxNk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue Nov 10 12:58:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558F73A68C9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:58:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.569 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.569 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.030, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dVEBTJvcJQfG for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01093A6900 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-113-169.meeting.ietf.org (64-104-46-217.cisco.com [64.104.46.217]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 992AF40D09; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:59:02 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AF9D414.6050507@stpeter.im> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:59:00 +0900 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scott References: <20091110074607.GA272@rvdp.org> <8846C14A-D46D-466B-9384-FAC64B68F4BA@wide.ad.jp> <4AF91BFF.3040802@viagenie.ca> <20091110170222.034ff74c@e-side.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <20091110170222.034ff74c@e-side.co.jp> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] social logistics? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:58:36 -0000 Yes, the buses were quite well coordinated. Who is going to write an I-D for the Bus Conveyance Protocol (BCP)? Or perhaps that is ISO work... On 11/10/09 5:02 PM, scott wrote: >> ä¸­æ‘ ä¿® wrote: >>> First bus will be ready at 17:30 front of hotel >> Who to trust? ;) > > trust those who have arranged for the buses ;> > > the buses will be ready to leave the front of the ANA at > 17:30. This is not a typo. As there are 14 buses and there > are sessions running until 18:10 I expect there will still > be buses leaving up until 18:30. > > the social begins at 19:00. > > buses will begin returning from the Prince Hotel (social > venue) at 21:00 and will stop at the ANA and the five > overflow hotels (SunRoute, Rihga, Granvia, Oriental, Mitsui > Garden - not necessarily in this order). > > again because of the number of attendees and buses I expect > buses will be leaving the Prince up until around 22:00. From ole@cisco.com Tue Nov 10 17:12:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A213A682A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:12:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.574 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.574 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lq7FGA4-KIHR for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DD93A67F2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:12:09 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEALyd+UqrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbADGFoEcCAGIBAmPE4JSgWoE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,719,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="429562747" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2009 01:12:37 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAB1CbXS017400 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:12:37 GMT Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:11:54 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [76attendees] Visit to Hiroshima Memorial Cathedral today X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:12:10 -0000 I will be going at 11am today, planning to spend less than an hour there. It is possible that some students will be practising on the organ, but that isn't certain and it is also not certain if we will have a chance to see the organ up close. Playing is pretty much ruled out I am sorry to say. So, feel fre to join, I will be going in a taxi with one other person, leaving here at 11 sharp. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From rajiva@cisco.com Tue Nov 10 20:05:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716CA28C265 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:05:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e+++dSBWm72y for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:05:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rtp-iport-1.cisco.com (rtp-iport-1.cisco.com [64.102.122.148]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D0228C233 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:05:33 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: rtp-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAIPG+UpAZnwN/2dsb2JhbADFKZhGhDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,720,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="67356373" Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com ([64.102.124.13]) by rtp-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2009 04:06:00 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-102.cisco.com ([72.163.62.190]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAB460gD004739; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:06:00 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-111.cisco.com ([72.163.62.153]) by xbh-rcd-102.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:06:00 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:05:59 -0600 Message-ID: <067E6CE33034954AAC05C9EC85E2577C197C6F@XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <7A9F7438-421A-43BD-83F2-C86394F8EB03@juniper.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] RFID Thread-Index: AcpiD+DSj8OqObYnROWxXp6m4wAMUwAdBv1Q References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com><4AF95E7E.10306@gmail.com> <7A9F7438-421A-43BD-83F2-C86394F8EB03@juniper.net> From: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" To: "John G. Scudder" , "Scott Brim" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2009 04:06:00.0486 (UTC) FILETIME=[474C2C60:01CA6284] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:05:34 -0000 I agree. However, I noticed few folks trying to make the RFID reader by placing the card on the iPod instead of the reader, and getting frustrated that it wasn't working. This shouldn't be the reader's fault. Cheers, Rajiv > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of John G. Scudder > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:07 AM > To: Scott Brim > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID >=20 > On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:37 PM, Scott Brim wrote: > > I consider it pilot error. >=20 > Some blame the pilot, some the user interface. I think people's main > job at the mic is to make their point plainly, not to cajole the RFID > reader into recognizing them. Although it's best when it works > straight off, from my POV the next best is for the speaker to give up > without breaking stride, make his or her point, and move on. YMMV of > course. >=20 > --John > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From kivinen@iki.fi Tue Nov 10 20:20:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509153A6930 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:20:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.518 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.518 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.081, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JLB2tJsDKOVu for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:20:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.kivinen.iki.fi (fireball.acr.fi [83.145.195.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB513A67EB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:20:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from fireball.kivinen.iki.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.kivinen.iki.fi (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAB4LDcm011162 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:21:13 +0200 (EET) Received: (from kivinen@localhost) by fireball.kivinen.iki.fi (8.14.3/8.12.11) id nAB4LDRE006993; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:21:13 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: fireball.kivinen.iki.fi: kivinen set sender to kivinen@iki.fi using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19194.15289.550854.968799@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:21:13 +0200 From: Tero Kivinen To: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" In-Reply-To: <067E6CE33034954AAC05C9EC85E2577C197C6F@XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com> References: <7BAB4E87-5B63-4FC9-A6CF-576EB180A6C0@cisco.com> <4AF95E7E.10306@gmail.com> <7A9F7438-421A-43BD-83F2-C86394F8EB03@juniper.net> <067E6CE33034954AAC05C9EC85E2577C197C6F@XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.4.1 X-Edit-Time: 6 min X-Total-Time: 7 min Cc: Scott Brim , 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:20:55 -0000 Rajiv Asati (rajiva) writes: > I agree. However, I noticed few folks trying to make the RFID reader by > placing the card on the iPod instead of the reader, and getting > frustrated that it wasn't working. This shouldn't be the reader's fault. Other problem people often have that they go back to the same reader which has already read their card 10 minutes before and which has not read any other card in between (the other rfid card was read on the other reader). What happens there is that the reader notices that this is same card than last time, and ignores the card. For user this just looks like the card is not working. What they need to do is to use the wipe card (or any other card) and read that in and then reread their own card. It would be nice if the reader could be made so it does not remember the last read card forever, but would forget it after 60 seconds or so. This same problem most often hit the chairs, as almost nobody else uses their reader than them... -- kivinen@iki.fi From gg55go@gmail.com Tue Nov 10 21:23:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40BA28C289 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:23:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.524 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kgf7TqHuKXbO for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:23:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f183.google.com (mail-yw0-f183.google.com [209.85.211.183]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9903A6820 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:23:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywh13 with SMTP id 13so807236ywh.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:23:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=77QsjtKvQRZCW6+NBDwmg0fEYW+wxcrO265DDEdIYX0=; b=KiCfL/h538ZAoKW6vdrAZTr05R2Wkflq0vcVhlXpDJ+N18jAZVc4DVO82Ez/DZ7e34 gWb9/WuT8+6E4zZVCuDIamQVUzUN8A6Q3WBPhszoUCs6EP8aAZ5nfreFpeUOVvzoKOF0 KTwCZ8PwB4z0DVIcAQXa5IHF09wDlsqiTIXUM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pN/GjFCkiGdbfp/ZNvJRUbRb8ucxMj8BBSw6ji4uygqm1CQpRPyT+yS+lZK9kbSf4c 4L8q+1mJe08kSWm2zUimaGOJDZY+peFuup+QhhaqEH8S87KUipuD2EkPJ1o/45h5SGM+ +2rVEkrUBxyH+1wOh2Rz6ZEo6B8NOPcxbVHbk= Received: by 10.151.92.12 with SMTP id u12mr1968580ybl.32.1257917026841; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:23:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?133.93.18.33? (host-18-33.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.18.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 14sm685234gxk.6.2009.11.10.21.23.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:23:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFA4A65.7020707@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:23:49 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> <4AF653C9.9050001@gmail.com> <4AF68E5E.9060103@ee.ucl.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <4AF68E5E.9060103@ee.ucl.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal / Soccer on Wed Thu meet up at 19:10 or 19:40 X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:23:25 -0000 Hi All Futsal / Soccer / Futbal freaks Indoor soccer will be held tonight. Meet up ANA lobby at 7:10pm or if you attend Plenary meeting until 19:30, please try to meet up at 19:40. Because the Futsal court is booked until 21:00. You don't have to prepare your own shoes, shirt and pants. You can rental all of them. And don't forget to print the map out. http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ietf/map_futsal.jpg Also check out the site http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ However you can get the map in front of Orchid room until 18:30. GO From: João Taveira Araújo Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 18:24:46 GMT+0900 > I've just arrived but I'll give it a go. I'm assuming we can rent > trainers at the futsal place? If so, I'll be at ANA lobby at 19:30. > > Cheers. 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We will be meeting at 8:00 p.m. in the lobby of the Mitsui Garden Hotel. If any first-time attendees or anyone else wish to join us, please email me off-list. 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(host-18-33.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.18.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm661080gxk.1.2009.11.10.21.37.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:37:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFA4DBA.6060608@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:38:02 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Plese read my working draft at Orchid X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:37:32 -0000 Hi Are you interested in Netiquette Guidelines by scientific approach to replace RFC 1855? If so, plese read (and assess, if you have time) my working draft (for draft submission) in front of Orchid room until 18:30. It's only five pages, feel free to read my document. Thank you. Go Kawaguchi From JuanCarlos.Zuniga@InterDigital.com Tue Nov 10 22:01:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6597A28C2B8 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:01:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9FFuyi5a-n34 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:01:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from idcout.InterDigital.com (idcexmail.interdigital.com [12.32.197.135]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8D728C2A2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:01:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from interdigital.com ([10.0.128.11]) by idcout.InterDigital.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:02:05 -0500 Received: from SAM.InterDigital.com ([10.30.2.11]) by interdigital.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:02:05 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA6294.7EB3230D" x-cr-puzzleid: {C6C48EF6-591E-44F6-99FA-3C5D473CB25D} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message x-cr-hashedpuzzle: ANV0 APAz BPjz CigP Cv0v DAIU DASM Ddhs EIUg HkVK ILVv IUPU JFSL Je6h JpEg KPpz; 1; NwA2AGEAdAB0AGUAbgBkAGUAZQBzAEAAaQBlAHQAZgAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {C6C48EF6-591E-44F6-99FA-3C5D473CB25D}; agB1AGEAbgBjAGEAcgBsAG8AcwAuAHoAdQBuAGkAZwBhAEAAaQBuAHQAZQByAGQAaQBnAGkAdABhAGwALgBjAG8AbQA=; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:02:40 GMT; UgBGAEkARAAgAGEAbgBkACAAdABvAGkAbABlAHQAcwA= Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:02:39 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: RFID and toilets Thread-Index: Acpiiwrgc1YQYDu0TBuMFu0gcw2rfQABgXzA From: "Zuniga, Juan Carlos" To: <76attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2009 06:02:05.0489 (UTC) FILETIME=[7EC34A10:01CA6294] Subject: [76attendees] RFID and toilets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:01:45 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA6294.7EB3230D Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Judging by the sophistication of the toilets here, I wonder if someone can come up with yet another "nice and interesting" application for our RFID badge... :) =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA6294.7EB3230D Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Judging by the sophistication of the toilets here, = I wonder if someone can come up with yet another “nice and = interesting” application for our RFID badge… :)

 

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01CA6294.7EB3230D-- From bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr Tue Nov 10 22:18:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C0928C0F7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:18:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.725 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.725 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.125, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3RD8YjRznFPg for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:18:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bortzmeyer.org (bortzmeyer-1-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f12:420::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B62028C2AD for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:18:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.bortzmeyer.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id DD16894FAB; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:18:44 +0100 (CET) Received: by horcrux (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E448E157767; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:18:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:18:27 +0900 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: "Zuniga, Juan Carlos" Message-ID: <20091111061827.GA18181@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Transport: UUCP rules X-Operating-System: Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and toilets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:18:25 -0000 On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 01:02:39AM -0500, Zuniga, Juan Carlos wrote a message of 189 lines which said: > Judging by the sophistication of the toilets here, I wonder if > someone can come up with yet another "nice and interesting" > application for our RFID badge... :) Could it raise some privacy issues? From leifj@sunet.se Tue Nov 10 22:18:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD0D03A6A49 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:18:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.491 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.491 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.108, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pXcR2NMHWOMY for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:18:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from backup-server.nordu.net (backup-server.nordu.net [193.10.252.66]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C342C28C2D0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:18:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [133.93.19.61] (host-19-61.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.19.61]) (authenticated bits=0) by backup-server.nordu.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAB6J1jB016081 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:19:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AFA5757.6030200@sunet.se> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:19:03 +0100 From: Leif Johansson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Zuniga, Juan Carlos" References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and toilets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:19:00 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Zuniga, Juan Carlos wrote: > > > Judging by the sophistication of the toilets here, I wonder if someone > can come up with yet another "nice and interesting" application for our > RFID badge... :) A nice "thank you " from the chairs maybe? On that topic I'm fascinated by how running power that close to your private parts doesn't seem to be a problem in this country :-) Cheers -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkr6V1cACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZndVxwCfTY3gB9m+QifewYWGKxAQmQTj tl8Anjf2c+mTO9T1YTCH+lOUT1RC0OKH =lgcL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From wkumari@google.com Tue Nov 10 22:22:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2AB23A6C23 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:22:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id riNDCf+wrSQB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out.google.com (smtp-out.google.com [216.239.33.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461C23A6C22 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:22:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from wpaz9.hot.corp.google.com (wpaz9.hot.corp.google.com [172.24.198.73]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id nAB6N7m2000465 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:23:08 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; t=1257920588; bh=A8VLYqwcgVbJteANKhJhbr/sZ14=; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID:Subject:From: To:Cc:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RpWuZPYzRMAhi/yLz4FoT5Qnseihl6o/X5mgn7NYD5Nt3BSvFlZXolCcPEJ3aQ6c6 +LIWgNTA4pHthZFNqLbog== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=beta; d=google.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to: cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-system-of-record; b=a6iX5t48kYX+FeI6GQ9hQ+c0GR3E0vTnvxJnzP586fknaNH8oM+s5QHEVzjRYDOb9 sxbNxUR0fXbXKGJlDLCrw== Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (eyw26.prod.google.com [10.208.23.26]) by wpaz9.hot.corp.google.com with ESMTP id nAB6N35U007749 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:23:04 -0800 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 26so180266eyw.6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:23:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.85.138 with SMTP id u10mr354179wee.185.1257920583138; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:23:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:23:03 +0900 Message-ID: <41c05ea00911102223x323a3dd2r510deeba1a076c35@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Kumari To: "Zuniga, Juan Carlos" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-System-Of-Record: true Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and toilets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:22:43 -0000 Where I work we have Toto brand toilet seats, but instead of having the controls connected to the seat they are on a separate box on the wall (much more convenient to reach). Anyway, we discovered that the communication from the control to the seat itself is over an IR link -- for April Fools day we used a learning universal remote to learn the various commands. I couldn't quite bring myself to use it on a victim though.... W On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Zuniga, Juan Carlos wrote: > > > Judging by the sophistication of the toilets here, I wonder if someone ca= n > come up with yet another =93nice and interesting=94 application for our R= FID > badge=85 :) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > --=20 Warren "Ace" Kumari Once again I am tying a new keyboard, so please excuse the even worse than usual typing! From gregory.ietf@gmail.com Tue Nov 10 22:53:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CECF3A6B8A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:53:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OlCEF8rETekK for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:53:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5243A69C3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:53:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so740001bwz.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:53:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ZVsBeaHEHgNMdgdnK7zQL0TPJwcfnoBZV+eSDbKH1vU=; b=ligTdQrkB829AGwOLtlxwu96QDNu2nxpCaV9wGOCikfmjn7NhbFZIvhn0M/yzQuxr9 eb1AjcgYKQvo5rBAwfxNTXYTsa8VXuLjml0QtfK0c/3+JAdbAjUtf0ee6nUipbpusfFc 39P3GP2Qfj9pGa/3mOyajjI127MAd7mydNSa4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=KcDVaPqPX/0zm3xHwtKW87MXtMJHgG4r4zSEPZSYqm71GyOxmOY3DwRIs0Q5zKiopl yTuAgpgEEO0DSrQ/zKVXcE0u4n0FdMrEjgY1k2SlqjeOkWoftZezdtF1leWJLlgDswef bmM12Hh+heqlxOc4xVKqdMsM7YbqM/1OTQqaQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.153.202 with SMTP id l10mr1095538bkw.92.1257922436950; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:53:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AFA4A65.7020707@gmail.com> References: <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> <4AF653C9.9050001@gmail.com> <4AF68E5E.9060103@ee.ucl.ac.uk> <4AFA4A65.7020707@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:53:56 +0900 Message-ID: From: Gregory Lebovitz To: Go Kawaguchi Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175d0750026c34047812e4a2 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal / Soccer on Wed Thu meet up at 19:10 or 19:40 X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:53:57 -0000 --0015175d0750026c34047812e4a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable count me in!! On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Go Kawaguchi wrote: > Hi > All Futsal / Soccer / Futbal freaks > > Indoor soccer will be held tonight. > Meet up ANA lobby at 7:10pm > or if you attend Plenary meeting until 19:30, > please try to meet up at 19:40. > Because the Futsal court is booked until 21:00. > > You don't have to prepare your own shoes, shirt and pants. > You can rental all of them. > > And don't forget to print the map out. > http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ietf/map_futsal.jpg > Also check out the site > http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ > > However you can get the map in front of Orchid room until 18:30. > > GO > > > From: Jo=E3o Taveira Ara=FAjo > Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 18:24:46 GMT+0900 > > I've just arrived but I'll give it a go. I'm assuming we can rent traine= rs >> at the futsal place? If so, I'll be at ANA lobby at 19:30. >> >> Cheers. >> > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > --=20 ---- IETF related email from Gregory M. Lebovitz Juniper Networks --0015175d0750026c34047812e4a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable count me in!!

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:2= 3 PM, Go Kawaguchi <gg55go@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
All Futsal / Soccer / Futbal freaks

Indoor soccer will be held tonight.
Meet up ANA lobby at 7:10pm
or if you attend Plenary meeting until 19:30,
please try to meet up at 19:40.
Because the Futsal court is booked until 21:00.

You don't have to prepare your own shoes, shirt and pants.
You can rental all of them.

And don't forget to print the map out.
http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ietf/map_futsal.jpg
Also check out the site
http://www.eygsys.= com/~go/

However you can get the map in front of Orchid room until 18:30.

GO


From: Jo=E3o Taveira Ara=FAjo <j.araujo@ee.ucl.ac.uk>
Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 18:24:46 GMT+0900

I've just arrived but I'll give it a go. I'm assuming we can re= nt trainers at the futsal place? If so, I'll be at ANA lobby at 19:30.<= br>
Cheers.

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--0015175d0750026c34047812e4a2-- From jinmei@isc.org Tue Nov 10 23:02:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90AA3A6C16 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:02:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.686 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.686 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.086, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3wbl+PCWHzS5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:02:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mon.jinmei.org (mon.jinmei.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:36::162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0643A6C12 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:02:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from jmb.jinmei.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:21b:63ff:fe08:3e64]) by mon.jinmei.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6519133C3B; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:02:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:02:56 +0900 Message-ID: From: JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= To: Go Kawaguchi In-Reply-To: <4AFA4A65.7020707@gmail.com> References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> <4AF653C9.9050001@gmail.com> <4AF68E5E.9060103@ee.ucl.ac.uk> <4AFA4A65.7020707@gmail.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/22.1 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal / Soccer on Wed Thu meet up at 19:10 or 19:40 X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:02:33 -0000 Kawaguchi-san, At Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:23:49 +0900, Go Kawaguchi wrote: > All Futsal / Soccer / Futbal freaks I just noticed that the reservation for *Thursday* evening changed to 19:30-21:00 (from 20:30-21:30 that I reserved). I'm fine with the revised schedule, but do you know how this changed? Did you update the original reservation, or was that canceled due to my error (e.g., forgetting to confirm the reservation, etc), or something else? Anyway, now the schedule is consolidated, can I assume you'll organize the event tomorrow evening, too? (I'm happy to help you if you need it.) Thanks, --- JINMEI, Tatuya Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. From oran@cisco.com Tue Nov 10 23:12:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F1B3A6C16 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:12:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TvxQjcgmFhjz for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:12:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com (sj-iport-2.cisco.com [171.71.176.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45933A68F3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:12:48 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAELz+UqrRN+K/2dsb2JhbADEKZhAhDwEgmM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,722,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="223099422" Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2009 07:13:16 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpnasa-965.cisco.com (sjc-vpnasa-965.cisco.com [10.21.107.197]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAB7DFIi001374 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:13:16 GMT From: David R Oran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:13:15 +0900 Message-Id: <0CB16415-058B-477E-836C-5D5500F32E1B@cisco.com> To: 76attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: [76attendees] Where is there the best Sushi? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:12:49 -0000 any suggestions - I'm looking at a dinner rather than lunch venue. Feel free to unicast back if you don't want to further pollute the list. Thanks! Dave Oran. 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(host-18-33.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.18.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm732139gxk.7.2009.11.10.23.15.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:15:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFA649E.8040807@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:15:42 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JINMEI Tatuya References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> <4AF653C9.9050001@gmail.com> <4AF68E5E.9060103@ee.ucl.ac.uk> <4AFA4A65.7020707@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal / Soccer on Wed Thu meet up at 19:10 or 19:40 X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:15:19 -0000 Jinmei-san From: JINMEI Tatuya Date: Wed Nov 11 2009 16:02:56 GMT+0900 > Kawaguchi-san, > > At Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:23:49 +0900, > Go Kawaguchi wrote: > >> All Futsal / Soccer / Futbal freaks > > I just noticed that the reservation for *Thursday* evening changed to > 19:30-21:00 (from 20:30-21:30 that I reserved). I'm fine with the > revised schedule, but do you know how this changed? Did you update > the original reservation, or was that canceled due to my error (e.g., > forgetting to confirm the reservation, etc), or something else? I made a phone to the Futsal office and telled a staff we wanna change tomorrow night from 19:30 to 21:00 and added tonight from 19:30 to 21:00. > > Anyway, now the schedule is consolidated, can I assume you'll organize > the event tomorrow evening, too? (I'm happy to help you if you need > it.) Yes, tommorow too! Then, Tonight is a little bit worried about gathering player enough. GO From rdroms@cisco.com Tue Nov 10 23:52:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC963A6C3D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:52:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4CqaG8vGB6VV for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:52:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com (sj-iport-2.cisco.com [171.71.176.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35833A67FF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:52:31 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAKP8+UqrR7H+/2dsb2JhbADEBZhAhDwEgmM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,722,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="223107635" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2009 07:52:59 +0000 Received: from [10.21.51.62] ([10.21.51.62]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAB7qxoa016786 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:52:59 GMT Message-Id: From: Ralph Droms To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:52:57 +0900 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [76attendees] mini-SD card? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:52:32 -0000 Does someone have a mini-SD card (memory card for camera) I can borrow for a few minutes to get some pictures off my rented mobile phone? - Ralph From rdroms@cisco.com Tue Nov 10 23:55:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D4C3A6C34 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:55:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K2T35iq4z2iJ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:55:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DC63A6A4C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:55:38 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAKP8+UqrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbADEBZhAhDwEgmM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,722,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="429785888" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2009 07:56:06 +0000 Received: from [10.21.51.62] ([10.21.51.62]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAB7u5et025884 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:56:06 GMT Message-Id: <18930231-E4A5-4E0A-8A5A-E3022839B841@cisco.com> From: Ralph Droms To: 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:56:04 +0900 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [76attendees] mini-SD card? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:55:39 -0000 Sorry, that should read "(memory card for mobile phone)"... And, sorry for the extra spam. - Ralph On Nov 11, 2009, at 4:52 PM 11/11/09, Ralph Droms wrote: > Does someone have a mini-SD card (memory card for camera) I can > borrow for a few minutes to get some pictures off my rented mobile > phone? > > - Ralph > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From ole@cisco.com Tue Nov 10 23:58:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FF43A6976 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:58:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.575 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.575 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.024, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iO0TzIYcJ1lE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:58:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7F53A6C44 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:58:26 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAJL9+UqrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbADEBoEcCAGIBAmPDIJSgWoE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,722,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="269344201" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2009 07:58:54 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAB7ws51006901 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:58:54 GMT Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:58:11 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [76attendees] Western-Japanese Food X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:58:56 -0000 * Tempura: Allegedly introduced by the Portguese, but very much a true Japanese dish. Works under the theory that anything good is better deep friend especially in a nice crispy batter. You have to try it at least once while in Japan. * Hambagu and hambaga: There are two versions of "the ground beef patty that came from Hamburg". If you see "Hamburg Steak" on a menu, it refers in all probability to the version without a bun and often served with brown sauce, this is called "ham-ba-gu" in Japan. The other kind (on a bun) is called "ham-ba-ga". * Omrice: Fried rice with various ingredients wrapped in an omelette and served with various sauces and other items, such as "hambagu" above. Called "oh-mu-rai-su" in Japanese, this is a truly a Japanese invention based on Western concepts. There is an omrice restaurant on Chuo Dori very close to Yamada Denki (the electronics store). Comfort food indeed. * Italian: Italian food, especially pasta has been apdated and adopted in Japan. You can still get the basic pasta dishes, but you can also them with all kinds of non-Italian things on top: squid, roe, raw fish, you name it... Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From ali.kahlane@satlinker.com Wed Nov 11 00:25:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279833A6B8A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:25:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.327 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.327 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yp-qp1CGUPA6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp34.dc2.safesecureweb.com (smtp34.dc2.safesecureweb.com [208.112.85.229]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2775F3A6AAD for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from Mail59.safesecureweb.com (unknown [10.10.0.1]) by smtp34.dc2.safesecureweb.com (Spam & Virus Firewall) with ESMTP id 7A78E6E7AC81; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:26:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from Mail59.safesecureweb.com ([10.10.0.1]) by smtp34.dc2.safesecureweb.com with ESMTP id VzcJn9hjyq8Pse0t; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:26:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from 196.20.66.2 [196.20.66.2] by Mail59.safesecureweb.com with SMTP; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:27:35 -0500 Message-Id: <4F3D1A02-6D5A-488E-8FBF-3A7637285BBF@satlinker.com> From: Ali KAHLANE To: Stephane Bortzmeyer In-Reply-To: <20091111061827.GA18181@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:27:01 +0100 References: <20091111061827.GA18181@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org, "Zuniga, Juan Carlos" Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and toilets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:25:57 -0000 It could as it could not ... raise, As a french saying goes "peut-=EAtre bien qu'oui peut-=EAtre bien = qu'non*! * "May be, may be not, who knows?" 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Dave Oran. > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From jacniq@gmail.com Wed Nov 11 01:18:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0DDB3A689E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:18:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.885 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.885 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.713, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D4LCecL51MI8 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:17:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ew0-f207.google.com (mail-ew0-f207.google.com [209.85.219.207]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E093A6889 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:17:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so926943ewy.37 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:18:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=QF1EGKl7LMHHPmDkbw6Cz7wNFJc9bUKsitPZTUvC0cY=; b=m5ftdYSS47rlFKnlFkj1JQ6y6f3C8Ez40w9QRtaOe2AGVY+crL4eSTXx6BMUY8EzZY qOz5uPQMHCTStOWKvj3DgghlUD/7TCGz1xQ6uhbQ4XHTwdWw2l5HGcwwP9vEHMpU8XBa kkCdgAtPsEUDI0NOxv6CSUjPNTOG+DpUNdRxk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Ogu0L1sVgDHaf41FwOhPZNzYjaJ4/XE8yZvCIaw423d0GFOidBzQwmspHlTQhozsuO zpda2sQthro7AW+qK/CBCicZPH5dLU5abZjpnVj0dS7ay5Vljgthu8T7AZJJIJ1ZOkQq L+5TBcYrmjP+XUWi3DWDGVGvBbtZDbV+YtzXk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.90.65 with SMTP id d43mr378506wef.41.1257931099421; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:18:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3F982A64-6393-4AC0-AA85-C3F32FCD1372@standardstrack.com> References: <0CB16415-058B-477E-836C-5D5500F32E1B@cisco.com> <3F982A64-6393-4AC0-AA85-C3F32FCD1372@standardstrack.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:18:19 +0800 Message-ID: From: Jacni Qin To: Eric Burger Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99bd1553d5f047814e8de Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Where is there the best Sushi? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:18:00 -0000 --0016e6d99bd1553d5f047814e8de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yes, i need the information too! On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Eric Burger wrote: > Results for this query would not be pollution! > > > On Nov 11, 2009, at 4:13 PM, David R Oran wrote: > > any suggestions - I'm looking at a dinner rather than lunch venue. >> >> Feel free to unicast back if you don't want to further pollute the list. >> >> Thanks! Dave Oran. >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > --0016e6d99bd1553d5f047814e8de Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 yes, i need the information too!


On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com> wrote:
Results for this query would not be pollution!


On Nov 11, 2009, at 4:13 PM, David R Oran wrote:

any suggestions - I'm looking at a dinner rather than lunch venue.

Feel free to unicast back if you don't want to further pollute the list.

Thanks! Dave Oran.
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--0016e6d99bd1553d5f047814e8de-- From fred@cisco.com Wed Nov 11 00:44:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818263A69DC; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:44:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.423 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.423 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.176, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KNP3eqNcfXB4; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:44:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com (sj-iport-4.cisco.com [171.68.10.86]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840013A67F6; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:44:28 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-4.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,722,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="48939407" Received: from hkg-core-1.cisco.com ([64.104.123.94]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2009 08:44:51 +0000 Received: from host-24-88.meeting.ietf.org (tky-vpn-client-230-69.cisco.com [10.70.230.69]) by hkg-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAB8if3n014228; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:44:48 GMT Message-Id: <10950D73-A043-479F-A3B6-228E9F842257@cisco.com> From: Fred Baker To: "Polk, William T." In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:44:47 +0900 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:29:25 -0800 Cc: IETF-Discussion list , "Golmie, Nada T." , peter@peter-dambier.de, Phil Roberts , IESG IESG , ietf-smart-grid@googlegroups.com, Henning Schulzrinne , recipe@ietf.org, "Dodson, Donna F." , roll@ietf.org, Russ Housley , Richard Shockey , IAB IAB , Michael Dillon , "Su, David H." , "St. Pierre, James A." , Leslie Daigle , 76attendees@ietf.org, Dave CROCKER Subject: [76attendees] Smart Grid "Bar BOF" Slides X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:44:29 -0000 FYI - the slide decks in use for the Smart Grid "Bar BOF" are available at: ftp://ftpeng.cisco.com/fred/IETF-SG/ We will be running webex tonight, and slides are of course visible there as well. On Nov 11, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Polk, William T. wrote: > [As before, my apologies for the shotgun nature of this email.] > > Folks, > > I would like to provide an update to the logistics and agenda for > tonight's Smart Grid Bar BOF. > > The Bar BOF will begin at 8:30 so that folks attending the plenary > have a chance to grab dinner. Note that the meeting room will be > Acacia West (prior announcements indicated Acacia 1). > > Here is the current agenda.. > > Smart Grid Bar BOF Agenda > 8:30PM - ?, Acacia West > November 11, 2009 > > I. Agenda Bashing (5 minutes) > Tim Polk > II. Smart Grid Overview (15 minutes) > Jim St. Pierre/Tim Polk > III. Japanese Interest in Smart Grid (15 minutes) > Hiroshi Esaki > IV. Introduction to the IP Priority Action Plan (15 minutes) > Tim Polk > V. Discussion of draft-baker-ietf-core (15 minutes) > Fred Baker > see http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-baker-ietf-core-04.txt > VI. Is the IETF the right place to do this work? > Russ Housley > VII. How should the work be organized? (contingent on V.) > Ralph Droms > > Slides will be available via webex for remote participants, but we > will be using the IETF streaming audio feed for sound. The URLs for > webex access have been appended to this message. > > The audio feed for this session will be streamed at the following URL: > http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/ietf762.m3u > Remote participants will not be able to speak, but can send comments > and questions in the webex chat room. > > Thanks, > > Tim Polk > > ----- webex access details ----- > > Frederick Baker invites you to attend this online meeting. > > Topic: Smart Grid Bar BOF in Hiroshima > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009 > Time: 8:00 pm, Japan Time (Tokyo, GMT+09:00) > Meeting Number: 205 017 176 > Meeting Password: smartgrid > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > To join the online meeting (Now from iPhones too!) > ------------------------------------------------------- > 1. Go to https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?ED=128776942&UID=1209736217&PW=NYTMxMDcxYzMw&RT=MiM0OQ%3D%3D > 2. Enter your name and email address. > 3. Enter the meeting password: smartgrid > 4. Click "Join Now". > > To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link: > https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?ED=128776942&UID=1209736217&PW=NYTMxMDcxYzMw&ORT=MiM0OQ%3D%3D > From rsf@ns.live555.com Wed Nov 11 01:49:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F4B28C0F4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:49:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.935 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.935 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.175, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oD2aEt5UeDtl for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:49:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.live555.com (ns.live555.com [4.79.217.242]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004B53A68B3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:49:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.live555.com (localhost.live555.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns.live555.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAB9oGjr048343 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:50:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: (from rsf@localhost) by ns.live555.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nAB9oGAL048341; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:50:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rsf) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:49:39 +0900 To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Ross Finlayson Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: [76attendees] Latitude/longitude (was Re: Moving sushi) X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:49:23 -0000 >Someone asked me about places that serves sushi that moves in a boat >or on a conveyor belt. I accidentally ran into such a place in the >sub-basement of Sogo today (B1F). It's down at the end of a little >alley with a bakery opposite and a drugstore near by. This sort of information, while greatly appreciated, isn't particularly optimal, because - based on these directions - the place will still be rather hard to find. (For starters, where/what is "Sogo"?) As many of us have found, finding one's way around in Japanese cities can be non-trivial, to put it mildly. It would be even more helpful if people could post latitude/longitude for places, if they know it (e.g., if they have a GPS receiver). As my own humble contribution to this cause, here is the latitude/longitude for the "Okonami-mura" building, which contains several Okonomi-yaki restaurants: 34.39187,132.46204 Ross. From fred@cisco.com Wed Nov 11 01:56:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5642D28C135; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:56:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -107.429 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-107.429 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.169, BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W-opP06x7YWo; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:56:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com (sj-iport-4.cisco.com [171.68.10.86]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2391328C14F; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:56:09 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-4.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,722,1249257600"; d="scan'208,217";a="48943232" Received: from hkg-core-1.cisco.com ([64.104.123.94]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2009 09:56:32 +0000 Received: from host-24-88.meeting.ietf.org (tky-vpn-client-230-1.cisco.com [10.70.230.1]) by hkg-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAB9uSYf002250; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:56:28 GMT Message-Id: From: Fred Baker To: ietf-smart-grid@googlegroups.com, 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <16C3F8D9-D90E-410F-9561-4D808FA418C9@standardstrack.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-140-453312703 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:56:26 +0900 References: <16C3F8D9-D90E-410F-9561-4D808FA418C9@standardstrack.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: recipe@ietf.org, IETF-Discussion list , roll@ietf.org, IAB IAB , IESG IESG , "Golmie, Nada T." , "Su, David H." Subject: Re: [76attendees] Updated logistics and agenda for Smart Grid Bar BOF at IETF 76 X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:56:10 -0000 --Apple-Mail-140-453312703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There was an error in the reservation announcement. When I first set it up, I managed to hit the wrong date, and so I set up a correct one. The error was sent to the list earlier; it's still an error. oops Here is the correct data. Begin forwarded message: > From: Frederick Baker > Date: November 8, 2009 1:03:32 PM JST > To: fred@cisco.com > Subject: (Forward to attendees) Meeting invitation: Smart Grid IETF > "Bar" BOF > Reply-To: fred@cisco.com > > **** You can forward this email invitation to attendees **** > > Hello , > > Frederick Baker invites you to attend this online meeting. > > Topic: Smart Grid IETF "Bar" BOF > Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 > Time: 8:00 pm, Japan Time (Tokyo, GMT+09:00) > Meeting Number: 201 328 939 > Meeting Password: smartgrid > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > To join the online meeting (Now from iPhones too!) > ------------------------------------------------------- > 1. Go to https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?ED=128776627&UID=0&PW=NZTViNTIwYzFh&RT=MiM0OQ%3D%3D > 2. Enter your name and email address. > 3. Enter the meeting password: smartgrid > 4. Click "Join Now". > > To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link: > https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?ED=128776627&UID=0&PW=NZTViNTIwYzFh&ORT=MiM0OQ%3D%3D > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > ALERT:Toll-Free Dial Restrictions for (408) and (919) Area Codes > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > The affected toll free numbers are: (866) 432-9903 for the San Jose/ > Milpitas area and (866) 349-3520 for the RTP area. > > Please dial the local access number for your area from the list below: > - San Jose/Milpitas (408) area: 525-6800 > - RTP (919) area: 392-3330 > > ------------------------------------------------------- > To join the teleconference only > ------------------------------------------------------- > 1. Dial into Cisco WebEx (view all Global Access Numbers at > http://cisco.com/en/US/about/doing_business/conferencing/index.html > 2. Follow the prompts to enter the Meeting Number (listed above) or > Access Code followed by the # sign. > > San Jose, CA: +1.408.525.6800 RTP: +1.919.392.3330 > > US/Canada: +1.866.432.9903 United Kingdom: +44.20.8824.0117 > > India: +91.80.4350.1111 Germany: +49.619.6773.9002 > > Japan: +81.3.5763.9394 China: +86.10.8515.5666 > > ------------------------------------------------------- > For assistance > ------------------------------------------------------- > 1. Go to https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/mc > 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support". > > You can contact me at: > fred@cisco.com > 1-408-526 4257 > > To add this meeting to your calendar program (for example Microsoft > Outlook), click this link: > https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?ED=128776627&UID=0&ICS=MI&LD=1&RD=2&ST=1&SHA2=OPRSuEQjxcIW1i8IRtMp/EUOrwEVTnOuxF2HObLGnx4=&RT=MiM0OQ%3D%3D > > The playback of UCF (Universal Communications Format) rich media > files requires appropriate players. To view this type of rich media > files in the meeting, please check whether you have the players > installed on your computer by going to https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/systemdiagnosis.php > > Sign up for a free trial of WebEx > http://www.webex.com/go/mcemfreetrial > > http://www.webex.com > > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE: This WebEx service includes a feature that allows > audio and any documents and other materials exchanged or viewed > during the session to be recorded. By joining this session, you > automatically consent to such recordings. If you do not consent to > the recording, do not join the session. --Apple-Mail-140-453312703 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There was an error in the = reservation announcement. When I first set it up, I managed to hit the = wrong date, and so I set up a correct one. The error was sent to the = list earlier; it's still an = error.

oops

Here is the = correct data.

Begin forwarded message:

From: Frederick = Baker <messenger@webex.com>
Date: November 8, = 2009 1:03:32 PM JST
Subject: (Forward = to attendees) Meeting invitation: Smart Grid IETF "Bar" = BOF

**** = You can forward this email invitation to attendees = **** 

Hello , 

Frederick Baker invites you to = attend this online meeting. 

Topic: Smart Grid IETF "Bar" = BOF 
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 
Time: 8:00 pm, = Japan Time (Tokyo, GMT+09:00) 
Meeting Number: 201 328 = 939 
Meeting Password: = smartgrid 


-----------------------------------------------= -------- 
To join the online meeting (Now from iPhones = too!) 
-------------------------------------------------------&nbs= p;
1. Go to https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?ED=3D12877= 6627&UID=3D0&PW=3DNZTViNTIwYzFh&RT=3DMiM0OQ%3D%3D 2. Enter your name and email address. 
3. Enter the meeting = password: smartgrid 
4. Click "Join Now". 

To view = in other time zones or languages, please click the link: 
https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?ED=3D12877= 6627&UID=3D0&PW=3DNZTViNTIwYzFh&ORT=3DMiM0OQ%3D%3D 
----------------------------------------------------------------&nbs= p;
ALERT:Toll-Free Dial Restrictions for (408) and (919) Area = Codes 
-----------------------------------------------------------= ----- 

The affected toll free numbers are: (866) 432-9903 = for the San Jose/Milpitas area and (866) 349-3520 for the RTP = area. 

Please dial the local access number for your area = from the list below: 
- San Jose/Milpitas (408) area: = 525-6800 
- RTP (919) area: = 392-3330 

----------------------------------------------------= --- 
To join the teleconference = only 
------------------------------------------------------- = ;
1. Dial into Cisco WebEx (view all Global Access Numbers = at 
http://cisco.com/en/US/about/doing_business/conferencing= /index.html 
2. Follow the prompts to enter the Meeting = Number (listed above) or Access Code followed by the # = sign. 

San Jose, CA: +1.408.525.6800 RTP: = +1.919.392.3330 

US/Canada: +1.866.432.9903 United Kingdom: = +44.20.8824.0117 

India: +91.80.4350.1111 Germany: = +49.619.6773.9002 

Japan: +81.3.5763.9394 China: = +86.10.8515.5666 

--------------------------------------------= ----------- 
For = assistance 
------------------------------------------------------= - 
1. Go to https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/mc 
= 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support". 

You can = contact me at: 
fred@cisco.com 
1-408-526 = 4257 

To add this meeting to your calendar program (for = example Microsoft Outlook), click this link: 
https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?ED=3D12877= 6627&UID=3D0&ICS=3DMI&LD=3D1&RD=3D2&ST=3D1&SHA2=3D= OPRSuEQjxcIW1i8IRtMp/EUOrwEVTnOuxF2HObLGnx4=3D&RT=3DMiM0OQ%3D%3D&n= bsp;

The playback of UCF (Universal Communications Format) rich = media files requires appropriate players. To view this type of rich = media files in the meeting, please check whether you have the players = installed on your computer by going to https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/systemdiagnosis.= php 

Sign up for a free trial of WebEx 
http://www.webex.com/go/mcemfreetrial 

<= a href=3D"http://www.webex.com/" = target=3D"_blank">http://www.webex.com 



IMPORTANT = NOTICE: This WebEx service includes a feature that allows audio and any = documents and other materials exchanged or viewed during the session to = be recorded. By joining this session, you automatically consent to such = recordings. If you do not consent to the recording, do not join the = session. 

= --Apple-Mail-140-453312703-- From hinoue@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp Wed Nov 11 02:07:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79153A69E1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:07:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.519 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.519 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.250, BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IVbol4sMCExA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:07:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.40.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4A13A69A5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:07:55 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: a5f21604-b7c6aae000004184-e1-4afa8d170898 Received: from oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.42.120]) by (Symantec Brightmail Gateway sbg1-outbound) with SMTP id 71.4F.16772.71D8AFA4; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:08:23 +0900 (JST) Received: from [133.93.16.49] (host-16-49.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.49]) by oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81223BC002; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:08:22 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:08:22 +0900 From: Hiroyuki INOUE To: David R Oran In-Reply-To: <0CB16415-058B-477E-836C-5D5500F32E1B@cisco.com> References: <0CB16415-058B-477E-836C-5D5500F32E1B@cisco.com> Message-Id: <20091111190639.BCC9.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.51.05 [ja] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Where is there the best Sushi? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:07:57 -0000 Hi, > Where is there the best Sushi? > any suggestions - I'm looking at a dinner rather than lunch venue. Someone tells me there is the best Sushi restrant with uncompromising quality and craftsmanship(?) in Hiroshima, however, it is so expensive. The normal price range of Sushi restrants is around 10,000 yen, while Yoshizushi is over 28,000 yen (except the fee of drink). A credit card is not acceptable, so you should have many cash... - Yoshizushi ($B5Hr?!J$h$7$:$7!K(B) http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=34.39256,132.459261&z=17 7 minutes walk from the venue, one street south of Hondori Shopping Street On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:13:15 +0900 David R Oran wrote: > any suggestions - I'm looking at a dinner rather than lunch venue. > > Feel free to unicast back if you don't want to further pollute the list. > > Thanks! Dave Oran. -- Hiroyuki INOUE Graduate School of Information Sciences, Hiroshima City University TEL: 082-830-1660 From falk@bbn.com Wed Nov 11 02:24:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619B43A69A5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:24:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.44 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.159, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NyxxhXbE3wm2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:24:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.bbn.com (smtp.bbn.com [128.33.1.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A792E3A6978 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:24:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.89.252.105] (helo=host-24-83.meeting.ietf.org) by smtp.bbn.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8ANL-0004cT-9g for 76attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:24:31 -0500 Message-ID: <4AFA90DD.6030500@bbn.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:24:29 +0900 From: Aaron Falk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] what are the little dots at the bottom of the speaker ID screen? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:24:04 -0000 eom From shida@ntt-at.com Wed Nov 11 02:27:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF0C28C15D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:27:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.265 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.265 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZQadEJeGzJLJ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:27:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateway13.websitewelcome.com (gateway13.websitewelcome.com [69.93.82.3]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EA0743A6978 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:27:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 11805 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2009 10:40:26 -0000 Received: from gator465.hostgator.com (69.56.174.130) by gateway13.websitewelcome.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 10:40:26 -0000 Received: from host-18-151.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.18.151]:49217) by gator465.hostgator.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N8AQM-00088o-Lx; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:27:39 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Shida Schubert In-Reply-To: <3F982A64-6393-4AC0-AA85-C3F32FCD1372@standardstrack.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:27:32 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <870095D6-A0EF-4DB1-A45E-360526CBEEEA@ntt-at.com> References: <0CB16415-058B-477E-836C-5D5500F32E1B@cisco.com> <3F982A64-6393-4AC0-AA85-C3F32FCD1372@standardstrack.com> To: Eric Burger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator465.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ntt-at.com Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Where is there the best Sushi? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:27:13 -0000 If you don't mind paying the bucks I would recommend; (Never tried myself but supposedly the best sushi place in town) Yoshi-zushi : http://tinyurl.com/ylxrt6w For a little less you can try Sakamoto-yaichibei : Map: http://tinyurl.com/y8engmx Website: http://www.ichibei.com/ For less you can try sushidining GAZAN : Map: http://tinyurl.com/yehn28j And if you don't need the rice and want sashimi alone, try the following. Sakana-ichiba : Map: http://tinyurl.com/ygzybar You can get a whole live squid cut into sashimi, it comes out alive and it's GOOD. Regards Shida On Nov 11, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Eric Burger wrote: > Results for this query would not be pollution! > > On Nov 11, 2009, at 4:13 PM, David R Oran wrote: > >> any suggestions - I'm looking at a dinner rather than lunch venue. >> >> Feel free to unicast back if you don't want to further pollute the >> list. >> >> Thanks! Dave Oran. >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From hinoue@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp Wed Nov 11 03:00:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CBA28C2F7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:00:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.614 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.614 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.704, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uYgUHKppk2s0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.40.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BAE28C179 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:00:21 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: a5f21605-b7bf5ae000001e19-12-4afa996089d7 Received: from oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.42.120]) by (Symantec Brightmail Gateway sbg2-outbound) with SMTP id A6.1B.07705.0699AFA4; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:00:48 +0900 (JST) Received: from [133.93.16.49] (host-16-49.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.49]) by oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1C73BC002 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:00:48 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:00:48 +0900 From: Hiroyuki INOUE To: 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <20091111190639.BCC9.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> References: <0CB16415-058B-477E-836C-5D5500F32E1B@cisco.com> <20091111190639.BCC9.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> Message-Id: <20091111200041.BCCD.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.51.05 [ja] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [76attendees] Where is there the best Sushi? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:00:23 -0000 > The normal price range of Sushi restrants is around 10,000 yen, The LA team tells me several Sushi restrants they recommended, price range is from 5,000 to 10,000 yen: * the word 'zushi' is the same as 'sushi' (according to sequential voicing) -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendaku - Tokumi-zushi ($B$H$/$_r?(B) http://www.hotpepper.jp/strJ000521043/ adjacent (east) building of the venue - Kobayashi ($B$3$P$d$7(B) http://r.tabelog.com/hiroshima/A3401/A340101/34007831/dtlmap/ 15 minutes walk from the venue - Asuka-zushi ($BHtD;r?(B) http://r.tabelog.com/hiroshima/A3401/A340101/34001668/dtlmap/ 15 minutes walk from the venue - Sushi-tei ($B$9$7Db(B) http://r.tabelog.com/hiroshima/A3401/A340101/34000569/dtlmap/ http://areamap.ietf76.jp/lunch/shop/?confer=1&genre=0&shop=3 reasonable price (2000 - 3000 yen) 15 minutes walk from the venue, adjacent of Mitsukoshi Department Store The list of Sushi restrants blow, there are many (over 30) Sushi restrants around the venue. http://www.11sushi.com/content/view/14/17/ Please refer to the hotel concierge for detail. Enjoy! On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:08:22 +0900 Hiroyuki INOUE wrote: > Hi, > > > Where is there the best Sushi? > > any suggestions - I'm looking at a dinner rather than lunch venue. > > Someone tells me there is the best Sushi restrant with uncompromising quality > and craftsmanship(?) in Hiroshima, however, it is so expensive. > The normal price range of Sushi restrants is around 10,000 yen, > while Yoshizushi is over 28,000 yen (except the fee of drink). > A credit card is not acceptable, so you should have many cash... > > - Yoshizushi ($B5Hr?!J$h$7$:$7!K(B) > http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=34.39256,132.459261&z=17 > 7 minutes walk from the venue, > one street south of Hondori Shopping Street > > > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:13:15 +0900 > David R Oran wrote: > > any suggestions - I'm looking at a dinner rather than lunch venue. > > > > Feel free to unicast back if you don't want to further pollute the list. > > > > Thanks! Dave Oran. > > -- > Hiroyuki INOUE > Graduate School of Information Sciences, > Hiroshima City University > TEL: 082-830-1660 > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees -- Hiroyuki INOUE Graduate School of Information Sciences, Hiroshima City University TEL: 082-830-1660 From adam@nostrum.com Wed Nov 11 03:06:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EB628C308 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:06:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.352 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.352 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.248, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YHOu9NMsJJty for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:06:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A86B28C306 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:06:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-144-65.meeting.ietf.org (host-144-65.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.144.65]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nABB6oJa095754 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:06:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <4AFA9ACA.9060509@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:06:50 +0900 From: Adam Roach User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20090915 Thunderbird/3.0b4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Falk References: <4AFA90DD.6030500@bbn.com> In-Reply-To: <4AFA90DD.6030500@bbn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 133.93.144.65 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] what are the little dots at the bottom of the speaker ID screen? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:06:29 -0000 I'm pretty sure they represent the number of (and identity of) RFID readers associated with the screen. /a From rsf@ns.live555.com Wed Nov 11 03:06:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850B228C307 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:06:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.738 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.738 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.861, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tvu5kVKrcEBn for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:06:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.live555.com (ns.live555.com [4.79.217.242]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B995E28C303 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:06:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.live555.com (localhost.live555.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns.live555.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nABB7djt003017 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:07:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: (from rsf@localhost) by ns.live555.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nABB7ddc003016; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:07:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rsf) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20091111100853.GA11488@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> References: <20091111100853.GA11488@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:07:05 +0900 To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Ross Finlayson Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: Re: [76attendees] Latitude/longitude (was Re: Moving sushi) X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:06:46 -0000 > > As my own humble contribution to this cause, here is the >> latitude/longitude for the "Okonami-mura" building, which contains > > several Okonomi-yaki restaurants: 34.39187,132.46204 > >Shame on you, you did not use the format of RFC 5545 :-) Unfortunately that format does not work in Google Earth or Google Maps. However, the comma-separated decimal latitude,longitude format (e.g., 34.39187,132.46204 ) can be pasted directly into those tools. Ross. From osamu@wide.ad.jp Wed Nov 11 03:08:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750F528C30E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:08:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.171 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.171 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.067, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wFu3Ch-j+jOy for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6ABE28C307 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::16:224:36ff:feed:1303] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:224:36ff:feed:1303]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5C4364C0CD; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:08:46 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-74-457651772; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQ2ZCPBsoQiAbJEI9JBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <4AFA90DD.6030500@bbn.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:08:45 +0900 Message-Id: References: <4AFA90DD.6030500@bbn.com> To: Aaron Falk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] what are the little dots at the bottom of the speaker ID screen? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:08:24 -0000 --Apple-Mail-74-457651772 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Good question! 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Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054623A6A83 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:22:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.55 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.640, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oj7s1YeWnwuW for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:22:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.40.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4053A69A5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:22:45 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: a5f21604-b7c6aae000004184-90-4afa9ea1acd5 Received: from oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.42.120]) by (Symantec Brightmail Gateway sbg1-outbound) with SMTP id 63.7F.16772.1AE9AFA4; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:23:13 +0900 (JST) Received: from [133.93.16.49] (host-16-49.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.49]) by oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A15E3BC002 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:23:12 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:23:12 +0900 From: Hiroyuki INOUE To: 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <20091111190639.BCC9.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> References: <0CB16415-058B-477E-836C-5D5500F32E1B@cisco.com> <20091111190639.BCC9.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> Message-Id: <20091111202311.BCD4.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.51.05 [ja] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [76attendees] Where is there the best Sushi? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:22:47 -0000 I've added one recommendation heard from the city staff, and resend the list. > The normal price range of Sushi restrants is around 10,000 yen, The LA team tells me several Sushi restrants they recommended, price range is from 5,000 to 10,000 yen: * the word 'zushi' is the same as 'sushi' (according to sequential voicing) -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendaku - Kihiro ($B5*W"!J$-$R$m!K(B) http://r.tabelog.com/hiroshima/A3401/A340101/34002846/dtlmap/ 20 minutes walk from the venue - Tokumi-zushi ($B$H$/$_r?(B) http://www.hotpepper.jp/strJ000521043/ adjacent (east) building of the venue - Kobayashi ($B$3$P$d$7(B) http://r.tabelog.com/hiroshima/A3401/A340101/34007831/dtlmap/ 15 minutes walk from the venue - Asuka-zushi ($BHtD;r?(B) http://r.tabelog.com/hiroshima/A3401/A340101/34001668/dtlmap/ 15 minutes walk from the venue - Sushi-tei ($B$9$7Db(B) http://r.tabelog.com/hiroshima/A3401/A340101/34000569/dtlmap/ http://areamap.ietf76.jp/lunch/shop/?confer=1&genre=0&shop=3 reasonable price (2000 - 3000 yen) 15 minutes walk from the venue, adjacent of Mitsukoshi Department Store There is also another chain-shop around Kamiya-cho sta. (the Bus Center): http://r.tabelog.com/hiroshima/A3401/A340101/34000568/dtlmap/ The list of Sushi restrants blow, there are many (over 30) Sushi restrants around the venue. http://www.11sushi.com/content/view/14/17/ Please refer to the hotel concierge for detail. Enjoy! On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:08:22 +0900 Hiroyuki INOUE wrote: > Hi, > > > Where is there the best Sushi? > > any suggestions - I'm looking at a dinner rather than lunch venue. > > Someone tells me there is the best Sushi restrant with uncompromising quality > and craftsmanship(?) in Hiroshima, however, it is so expensive. > The normal price range of Sushi restrants is around 10,000 yen, > while Yoshizushi is over 28,000 yen (except the fee of drink). > A credit card is not acceptable, so you should have many cash... > > - Yoshizushi ($B5Hr?!J$h$7$:$7!K(B) > http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=34.39256,132.459261&z=17 > 7 minutes walk from the venue, > one street south of Hondori Shopping Street > > > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:13:15 +0900 > David R Oran wrote: > > any suggestions - I'm looking at a dinner rather than lunch venue. > > > > Feel free to unicast back if you don't want to further pollute the list. > > > > Thanks! Dave Oran. > > -- > Hiroyuki INOUE > Graduate School of Information Sciences, > Hiroshima City University > TEL: 082-830-1660 > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees -- Hiroyuki INOUE Graduate School of Information Sciences, Hiroshima City University TEL: 082-830-1660 From yzhaous@huawei.com Wed Nov 11 05:00:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E24428C0D6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:00:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u1n0eCi0wX1s for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from usaga03-in.huawei.com (usaga03-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.220]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8953A6A1A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (usaga03-in [172.18.4.17]) by usaga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KSY0093J4646E@usaga03-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:01:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from Z73500b (host-113-2.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.113.2]) by usaga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KSY0018S4610I@usaga03-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:01:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:00:25 -0600 From: Yi Zhao In-reply-to: <870095D6-A0EF-4DB1-A45E-360526CBEEEA@ntt-at.com> To: 'Shida Schubert' , 'Eric Burger' Message-id: <05453B6800C04492B9B7A250EDF4F04A@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: AcpiucZdjZmCw1j8TMOr2n//16PP7AAE9QLQ References: <0CB16415-058B-477E-836C-5D5500F32E1B@cisco.com> <3F982A64-6393-4AC0-AA85-C3F32FCD1372@standardstrack.com> <870095D6-A0EF-4DB1-A45E-360526CBEEEA@ntt-at.com> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Where is there the best Sushi? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:00:50 -0000 I tried the live squid sashimi at Sakana-ichiba tonight and it was excellent! Check http://r.gnavi.co.jp/fl/en/y017600/ (the website of Sakana-ichiba at another location) to see how it looks like. If you feel you have enough raw squid, you can ask the restaurant to cook the rest of it, grill or fried (best calamari I have ever had!) Yi -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Shida Schubert Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:28 AM To: Eric Burger Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Where is there the best Sushi? If you don't mind paying the bucks I would recommend; (Never tried myself but supposedly the best sushi place in town) Yoshi-zushi : http://tinyurl.com/ylxrt6w For a little less you can try Sakamoto-yaichibei : Map: http://tinyurl.com/y8engmx Website: http://www.ichibei.com/ For less you can try sushidining GAZAN : Map: http://tinyurl.com/yehn28j And if you don't need the rice and want sashimi alone, try the following. Sakana-ichiba : Map: http://tinyurl.com/ygzybar You can get a whole live squid cut into sashimi, it comes out alive and it's GOOD. Regards Shida On Nov 11, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Eric Burger wrote: > Results for this query would not be pollution! > > On Nov 11, 2009, at 4:13 PM, David R Oran wrote: > >> any suggestions - I'm looking at a dinner rather than lunch venue. >> >> Feel free to unicast back if you don't want to further pollute the >> list. >> >> Thanks! Dave Oran. >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From stpeter@stpeter.im Wed Nov 11 03:54:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A8228C0FF; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:54:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.817 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.817 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.218, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sbScOpKBar7m; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:54:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6AE3A6952; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:54:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-18-99.meeting.ietf.org (64-104-46-217.cisco.com [64.104.46.217]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E6AA940D09; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:45:08 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AFAA3C3.8010208@stpeter.im> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:45:07 +0900 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fred Baker References: <10950D73-A043-479F-A3B6-228E9F842257@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <10950D73-A043-479F-A3B6-228E9F842257@cisco.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080203060408060201090303" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:30:41 -0800 Cc: Dave CROCKER , recipe@ietf.org, "Dodson, Donna F." , Leslie Daigle , "Polk, William T." , IETF-Discussion list , Russ Housley , roll@ietf.org, ietf-smart-grid@googlegroups.com, peter@peter-dambier.de, Phil Roberts , "St. Pierre, James A." , IAB IAB , IESG IESG , Michael Dillon , "Golmie, Nada T." , Richard Shockey , 76attendees@ietf.org, "Su, David H." , Henning Schulzrinne Subject: Re: [76attendees] Smart Grid "Bar BOF" Slides X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:54:41 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080203060408060201090303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim had some troubles setting up the WebEx conference, so we are using audio streaming, along with a Jabber chatroom here: xmpp:smartgrid@conference.jabber.org?join On 11/11/09 5:44 PM, Fred Baker wrote: > FYI - the slide decks in use for the Smart Grid "Bar BOF" are available at: > ftp://ftpeng.cisco.com/fred/IETF-SG/ > > We will be running webex tonight, and slides are of course visible there > as well. > > On Nov 11, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Polk, William T. wrote: > >> [As before, my apologies for the shotgun nature of this email.] >> >> Folks, >> >> I would like to provide an update to the logistics and agenda for >> tonight's Smart Grid Bar BOF. >> >> The Bar BOF will begin at 8:30 so that folks attending the plenary >> have a chance to grab dinner. Note that the meeting room will be >> Acacia West (prior announcements indicated Acacia 1). >> >> Here is the current agenda.. >> >> Smart Grid Bar BOF Agenda >> 8:30PM - ?, Acacia West >> November 11, 2009 >> >> I. Agenda Bashing (5 minutes) >> Tim Polk >> II. Smart Grid Overview (15 minutes) >> Jim St. Pierre/Tim Polk >> III. Japanese Interest in Smart Grid (15 minutes) >> Hiroshi Esaki >> IV. Introduction to the IP Priority Action Plan (15 minutes) >> Tim Polk >> V. Discussion of draft-baker-ietf-core (15 minutes) >> Fred Baker >> see http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-baker-ietf-core-04.txt >> VI. Is the IETF the right place to do this work? >> Russ Housley >> VII. How should the work be organized? (contingent on V.) >> Ralph Droms >> >> Slides will be available via webex for remote participants, but we >> will be using the IETF streaming audio feed for sound. The URLs for >> webex access have been appended to this message. >> >> The audio feed for this session will be streamed at the following URL: >> http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/ietf762.m3u >> Remote participants will not be able to speak, but can send comments >> and questions in the webex chat room. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tim Polk >> >> ----- webex access details ----- >> >> Frederick Baker invites you to attend this online meeting. >> >> Topic: Smart Grid Bar BOF in Hiroshima >> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009 >> Time: 8:00 pm, Japan Time (Tokyo, GMT+09:00) >> Meeting Number: 205 017 176 >> Meeting Password: smartgrid >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> To join the online meeting (Now from iPhones too!) >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> 1. Go to >> https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?ED=128776942&UID=1209736217&PW=NYTMxMDcxYzMw&RT=MiM0OQ%3D%3D >> >> 2. Enter your name and email address. >> 3. 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<870095D6-A0EF-4DB1-A45E-360526CBEEEA@ntt-at.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Where is there the best Sushi? Thread-Index: AcpiuaFeo72WlIKHRPOUFRn5EU42QgAJFf+Q References: <0CB16415-058B-477E-836C-5D5500F32E1B@cisco.com><3F982A64-6393-4AC0-AA85-C3F32FCD1372@standardstrack.com> <870095D6-A0EF-4DB1-A45E-360526CBEEEA@ntt-at.com> From: To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2009 14:51:51.0372 (UTC) FILETIME=[80A020C0:01CA62DE] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Where is there the best Sushi? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:51:32 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA62DE.80703DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is the picture of the live squid. It was really good. Sorry if I bother somebody with the picture. =20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = Im Auftrag von Shida Schubert Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. November 2009 19:28 An: Eric Burger Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Betreff: Re: [76attendees] Where is there the best Sushi? If you don't mind paying the bucks I would recommend; (Never tried myself but supposedly the best sushi place in town) Yoshi-zushi : http://tinyurl.com/ylxrt6w For a little less you can try Sakamoto-yaichibei : Map: http://tinyurl.com/y8engmx Website: http://www.ichibei.com/ For less you can try sushidining GAZAN : Map: http://tinyurl.com/yehn28j And if you don't need the rice and want sashimi alone, try the following. Sakana-ichiba : Map: http://tinyurl.com/ygzybar You can get a whole live squid cut into sashimi, it comes out alive and it's GOOD. Regards Shida On Nov 11, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Eric Burger wrote: > Results for this query would not be pollution! > > On Nov 11, 2009, at 4:13 PM, David R Oran wrote: > >> any suggestions - I'm looking at a dinner rather than lunch venue. >> >> Feel free to unicast back if you don't want to further pollute the =20 >> list. >> >> Thanks! 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[127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0416F3A68C9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:01:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.575 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.575 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.024, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X3sQVr12TawX for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:01:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3727B3A66B4 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:01:44 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAERv+kqrR7H+/2dsb2JhbADFNIEbCAGHfgmObYJSgWoE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,723,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="269550657" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2009 16:02:11 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nABG2Bv8010213; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:02:11 GMT Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:01:28 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Ross Finlayson In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Latitude/longitude (was Re: Moving sushi) X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:01:45 -0000 Sorry, I was sort of assuming that most people had picked up the provided map or looked at the local host website whereon Sogo is clearly marked, it's near the Rihga Hotel by the way... Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Wed, 11 Nov 2009, Ross Finlayson wrote: > >Someone asked me about places that serves sushi that moves in a boat > >or on a conveyor belt. I accidentally ran into such a place in the > >sub-basement of Sogo today (B1F). It's down at the end of a little > >alley with a bakery opposite and a drugstore near by. > > This sort of information, while greatly appreciated, isn't particularly > optimal, because - based on these directions - the place will still be rather > hard to find. (For starters, where/what is "Sogo"?) As many of us have > found, finding one's way around in Japanese cities can be non-trivial, to put > it mildly. > > It would be even more helpful if people could post latitude/longitude for > places, if they know it (e.g., if they have a GPS receiver). > > As my own humble contribution to this cause, here is the latitude/longitude > for the "Okonami-mura" building, which contains several Okonomi-yaki > restaurants: 34.39187,132.46204 > > Ross. > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From stpeter@stpeter.im Wed Nov 11 12:01:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE82C3A6AA1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:01:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uK1v98kkQE2v for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:01:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDE63A6A37 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:01:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-113-169.meeting.ietf.org (host-113-169.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.113.169]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6C41840D09 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:02:05 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4AFB183B.3090007@stpeter.im> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:02:03 +0900 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms060800090707050808030903" Subject: [76attendees] audio: mapping of rooms to channel numbers X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:01:45 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060800090707050808030903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mapping rooms at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/76/agenda.html to channel numbers at ftp://videolab.uoregon.edu/pub/videolab/media/ietf76/ would be very helpful for those of us writing minutes. Does such a mapping exist? 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([172.24.60.77]) by p-emlb01-sac.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:45:29 -0800 Received: from magenta.juniper.net ([172.17.27.123]) by emailsmtp56.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:45:29 -0800 Received: from jgs-sslvpn-nc.jnpr.net (jgs-sslvpn-nc.jnpr.net [172.23.8.196]) by magenta.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id nABKjSj37653; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:45:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jgs@juniper.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: "John G. Scudder" In-Reply-To: <35B3FBF7A0B5A14BA6E092D25B35298608250D51@xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:45:27 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <60FEFA23-CEF3-468D-8E23-2C29242E37BB@juniper.net> References: <35B3FBF7A0B5A14BA6E092D25B35298608250D51@xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com> To: Sarah Banks (sabanks) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2009 20:45:29.0040 (UTC) FILETIME=[E7575500:01CA630F] Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:49:13 -0000 On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:34 AM, Sarah Banks (sabanks) wrote: > For those of you who require itemized breakouts of your hotel =20 > bills on hotel stationary, this might prove challenging; this =20 > morning at the Oriental Hotel they were unable to issue such a =20 > receipt... Even after I called a Japanese speaking coworker and had =20= > them speak on the phone :) FYI. Apparently we are supposed to pick these up from the JTB desk, see =20 below. --John Begin forwarded message: > From: "m_sakimoto480@jtb.jp" > Date: November 9, 2009 3:20:41 PM GMT+09:00 > To: "m_sakimoto480@jtb.jp" > Subject: 76th IETF *** NOTICE*** RECEIPT*** > > Dear: Applicants > > Please come to JTB desk at the venue(ANA Crown Plaza Hotel 1F) > to receive your receipt for the accommodation. > Hotels will not issue them. > > We already prepared following your request in the system. > > Regards, > > Machiko Sakimoto(Ms.) > JTB Western Japan, Corp.EC (Event & Convention) Sales Dept. > Western Japan Regional Headquarters > { Mon. - Fri. 9:30 - 17:30 } > JTB Bldg. 3 F, 2-1-25 Kyutaro-cho, Chuo-ku, > Osaka city 541-0056 > (: +81-6-6260-5076=E3=80=80E: +81-6-6263-0717 > ;: m_sakimoto480@jtb.jp > =E2=98=86.=E3=80=82.:*=E3=83=BB=C2=B0=E2=98=86.=E3=80=82.:*=E3=83=BB=C2=B0= =E2=98=86.=E3=80=82.:*=E3=83=BB=C2=B0=E2=98=86.=E3=80=82.:*=E3=83=BB=C2=B0= =E2=98=86 From sabanks@cisco.com Wed Nov 11 12:57:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11563A69F8 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; 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Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:50:39 GMT Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:49:57 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Sarah Banks (sabanks)" In-Reply-To: <35B3FBF7A0B5A14BA6E092D25B35298608250D51@xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: References: <35B3FBF7A0B5A14BA6E092D25B35298608250D51@xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:50:12 -0000 Right, well JTB should be able to provide you a receipt for the accomodation part, the hotel should provide a receipt for anything else. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Wed, 11 Nov 2009, Sarah Banks (sabanks) wrote: > Hi, > For those of you who require itemized breakouts of your hotel > bills on hotel stationary, this might prove challenging; this > morning at the Oriental Hotel they were unable to issue such a > receipt... Even after I called a Japanese speaking coworker and > had them speak on the phone :) FYI. > > Regards, > Sarah > From Lyong@Ciena.com Wed Nov 11 15:56:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB663A6968 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:56:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.893 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.893 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.706, BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.552, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l2-KPsCiuoOO for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:56:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from hicks.ciena.com (hicks.ciena.com [63.118.34.22]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D477A3A67D1 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:56:24 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AukHAKPd+ko/dicV/2dsb2JhbACCJiEJgiGVXLIDkHyDaFQE X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_B5F3_01CA6300.B9A83980" Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:56:47 -0500 Message-ID: <0AFD1B67B949784DA087CDA9F0DD4AD901283030@mdmxm03.ciena.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: tea thread-index: AcpjKqDEWUBKh+lfTqyadRpssYvXhA== Importance: normal Priority: normal From: "Ong, Lyndon" To: <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: [76attendees] tea X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:56:25 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_B5F3_01CA6300.B9A83980 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA632A.A22D49B9" ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA632A.A22D49B9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Folks, =20 Just wondering, any suggestion on where to get good Japanese tea here besides the department stores or groceries? =20 Cheers, =20 Lyndon ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA632A.A22D49B9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Folks,

 

Just wondering, any suggestion on where to get good = Japanese tea here besides the department stores or groceries?

 

Cheers,

 

Lyndon




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Upgrade to Eudora: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:30:33 -0800 To: "Ong, Lyndon" , <76attendees@ietf.org> From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Subject: Re: [76attendees] tea X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:35:12 -0000 At 6:56 PM -0500 11/11/09, Lyndon Ong wrote: > Just wondering, any suggestion on where to get good Japanese tea > here besides the department stores or groceries? Personally, I'm pleased with the selection of tea and tea shops in the SOGO department store. There are four or five shops selling a wide range of teas. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- With most men, life is like backgammon -- half skill and half luck. --Oliver Wendell Holmes From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Wed Nov 11 16:48:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986F628C13A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:48:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.077, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WWrJeTcYGqjy for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:48:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A623A6945 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:48:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=rg+ietf@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1257986955; x=1289522955; h=message-id:x-mailer:x-message-note:date:to:from:subject: content-type:x-random-sig-tag:x-ironport-av; z=Message-Id:=20|X-Mailer:=20Eudora=20for=20Mac=20OS=20X |X-message-Note:=20Warning:=20Outlook=20in=20use.=20=20Up grade=20to=20Eudora:=20|Date:=20We d,=2011=20Nov=202009=2016:45:25=20-0800|To:=20<76attendee s@ietf.org>|From:=20Randall=20Gellens=20|Subject:=20Non-smoking=20Carousel=20Sushi |Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3D"us-ascii"=20 =3B=20format=3D"flowed"|X-Random-Sig-Tag:=201.0b28 |X-IronPort-AV:=20E=3DMcAfee=3Bi=3D"5300,2777,5799"=3B=20 a=3D"27404312"; bh=L5Ukn1l6Z8fDzHq8JhVRem+sSazQk4XZJl0qbew0W6w=; b=fYdWh2PVHArwNb4jw/LQbYIFvQL66Bw8EiL2sd1Xw8SsUM26vM3FPue7 OiupsZ+YdcyMTK6wv3JLPLCZCrFFMYtmALAshIR/VRew0V9JM0Xg/6pyt gXxkXk/UaxZmdmBXozWJytDZNpNHIEjqODF5OBxliq2hIehEs5nLIg6u0 o=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5300,2777,5799"; a="27404312" Received: from pdmz-ns-mip.qualcomm.com (HELO numenor.qualcomm.com) ([199.106.114.10]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 11 Nov 2009 16:49:15 -0800 Received: from msgtransport01.qualcomm.com (msgtransport01.qualcomm.com [129.46.61.148]) by numenor.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id nAC0nEUl013422 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:49:15 -0800 Received: from host-112-104.meeting.ietf.org (myvpn-r-627.ras.qualcomm.com [10.64.2.115]) by msgtransport01.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id nAC0nC1S021395 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:49:13 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X X-message-Note: Warning: Outlook in use. Upgrade to Eudora: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:45:25 -0800 To: <76attendees@ietf.org> From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Subject: [76attendees] Non-smoking Carousel Sushi X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:48:47 -0000 The concierge found a restaurant that is all non-smoking, which serves sushi both from a carousel (conveyor belt) and from a menu. It is reasonably priced, tasty, and close by. It's called Nonta-Zushi and is on the first basement floor (B1F) of the Pacela center, behind the SOGO department store and next to the Rihga Royal Hotel. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- This fortune intentionally not included. 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Fleming" Organization: Digium, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: 76attendees@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=05FB8DB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Non-smoking Carousel Sushi X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:51:41 -0000 Randall Gellens wrote: > The concierge found a restaurant that is all non-smoking, which serves > sushi both from a carousel (conveyor belt) and from a menu. It is > reasonably priced, tasty, and close by. > > It's called Nonta-Zushi and is on the first basement floor (B1F) of the > Pacela center, behind the SOGO department store and next to the Rihga > Royal Hotel. Thanks! Anyone who wants to go there for lunch today, let's get a group together. I've somehow managed to not yet have sushi while I've been here :-( -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org From ron.even.tlv@gmail.com Wed Nov 11 17:02:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E3128C17B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:02:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ydG4OA8wWdYj for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:02:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f192.google.com (mail-yx0-f192.google.com [209.85.210.192]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5580728C162 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:02:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so1793152yxe.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:02:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=7o9IX93nJc00FD4nFeKqORK31gxruAFyS8//wWr56b4=; b=A9qQtD02r07jdkFDSvNh0eYLeqKZmSCzKq2t0pCuhMhAKgjoO6Ijim6vZXIfTbxEuZ ogjWrJb9l//f11BdZFaYEhD8FOHieHgy7OGwQdGRhiFew7C9HGDyB17UhaFKt3bDIFtb /RLOyy/6J58sy899I+53ugj8fettEtuvgnDaQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; b=igYzykyGz5CUweY7hfz9jqx8wBjWrozBrPHey2Fno0WHyzdOtiOQ+Ewf8N1n6TM1HA S4Tz3nzmGlPKpjGATX1zY7NnacrLRNTViXwdPjWX+nMcEWG9xA1XtlCgm/pnrA4CfoJ6 pQxe+VhKHafOkT/o4gvXn8OaDiMZkenjM2dEQ= Received: by 10.150.37.41 with SMTP id k41mr3967690ybk.342.1257987764945; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:02:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from windows8d787f9 (host-18-119.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.18.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm1086763gxk.9.2009.11.11.17.02.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:02:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Roni Even" To: "'Randall Gellens'" , <76attendees@ietf.org> References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:01:36 +0900 Message-ID: <4afb5eb4.0d0bca0a.0da7.61da@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-index: AcpjMf6hzFPtzMEjT2+2/l+Jz3nFaQAAYNWQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [76attendees] Non-smoking Carousel Sushi X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:02:20 -0000 I have been there, they have English menu enabling you to order and not only to pick from the carousel Roni Even > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Randall Gellens > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:45 AM > To: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [76attendees] Non-smoking Carousel Sushi > > The concierge found a restaurant that is all non-smoking, which > serves sushi both from a carousel (conveyor belt) and from a menu. It > is reasonably priced, tasty, and close by. > > It's called Nonta-Zushi and is on the first basement floor (B1F) of > the Pacela center, behind the SOGO department store and next to the > Rihga Royal Hotel. > > -- > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- > This fortune intentionally not included. > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From agmalis@gmail.com Wed Nov 11 17:53:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC943A67A6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:53:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.437 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.437 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.163, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sJ8dXragp2ql for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:53:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gx0-f228.google.com (mail-gx0-f228.google.com [209.85.217.228]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532F53A67AD for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:53:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so1631262gxk.9 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:54:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lK+ErxUTQfi7JOe2b4sFDSZU8QJ6cNZvKTPz2pacUsc=; b=dlx/J1WomWbLmlUSxLo0bRO9ta02lGh5H7Xl/nJjOhgz1CwS0a4veu4pmKzepoiIpX 9UFHGkMtl2yq77CIjFMMBbosIOD6Fy1ifrMk1Jt7ETfaMdqXFY/1hvsYKeNTLuFNx1cS qLY/TeS9pjU+/DHPCq4jnJxbCthTEuBsb1xo0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Yoo2BpsLDgZyA7SyUcwk1GagCOWf+61wu6EQOE2gwelY2Z8cVc1gaGpWmPYiF8cRR4 Lko5Kx6zxtRTjG0Iq+xZEYRmzNOyj7EeqdkARJt5wXsnG4nnD9ABWCdM9pQgurBzlWhi w5Ok+phFcGaOzj+WvuvnJ073YZ56FZ5EOBI0g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.4.9 with SMTP id g9mr91922ani.61.1257990844172; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:54:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <35B3FBF7A0B5A14BA6E092D25B35298608250D51@xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:53:44 +0900 Message-ID: <8c99930d0911111753v38391e5g7e39244b51e0b2d9@mail.gmail.com> To: Ole Jacobsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:53:43 -0000 Where is the JTB desk? On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > Right, well JTB should be able to provide you a receipt for the > accomodation part, the hotel should provide a receipt for anything > else. > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, =A0The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 =A0 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com =A0URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009, Sarah Banks (sabanks) wrote: > >> Hi, >> =A0 =A0For those of you who require itemized breakouts of your hotel >> =A0 =A0bills on hotel stationary, this might prove challenging; this >> =A0 =A0morning at the Oriental Hotel they were unable to issue such a >> =A0 =A0receipt... Even after I called a Japanese speaking coworker and >> =A0 =A0had them speak on the phone :) FYI. >> >> Regards, >> Sarah >> > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From lieven.levrau@alcatel-lucent.com Wed Nov 11 17:55:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2AC43A67AD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:55:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pW-5qybmDneM for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:55:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from smail5.alcatel.fr (smail5.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.27]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FFF3A67A6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:55:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.63]) by smail5.alcatel.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ICT) with ESMTP id nAC1tfwv002390 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:55:41 +0100 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSC3.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.47]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.63]) with mapi; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:55:41 +0100 From: "LEVRAU, LIEVEN (LIEVEN)" To: "Andrew G. Malis" , Ole Jacobsen Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:55:45 +0100 Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Hotel receipts Thread-Index: AcpjOxhBqi6kV0NfTFmzK/FpONb7tgAABJ6g Message-ID: References: <35B3FBF7A0B5A14BA6E092D25B35298608250D51@xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com> <8c99930d0911111753v38391e5g7e39244b51e0b2d9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8c99930d0911111753v38391e5g7e39244b51e0b2d9@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 155.132.188.13 Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:55:23 -0000 Apparently down under (groundfloor) On the way to the bar/reception of the hotel. ./ Lieven -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Andrew G. Malis Sent: 12 November 2009 02:54 To: Ole Jacobsen Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts Where is the JTB desk? On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > Right, well JTB should be able to provide you a receipt for the > accomodation part, the hotel should provide a receipt for anything > else. > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, =A0The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 =A0 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com =A0URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009, Sarah Banks (sabanks) wrote: > >> Hi, >> =A0 =A0For those of you who require itemized breakouts of your hotel >> =A0 =A0bills on hotel stationary, this might prove challenging; this >> =A0 =A0morning at the Oriental Hotel they were unable to issue such a >> =A0 =A0receipt... Even after I called a Japanese speaking coworker and >> =A0 =A0had them speak on the phone :) FYI. >> >> Regards, >> Sarah >> > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From spencer@wonderhamster.org Wed Nov 11 18:03:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB73028C178 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:03:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.806 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.806 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.792, BAYES_00=-2.599, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m0fdsZ4J6iIG for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE59028C0E8 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:03:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from S73602b (host-24-135.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.135]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MBVXy-1N07I3150Q-009wV2; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:03:31 -0500 Message-ID: <0C001306C25B4019BB5CA228EEA31D53@china.huawei.com> From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: "LEVRAU, LIEVEN \(LIEVEN\)" , "Andrew G. Malis" , "Ole Jacobsen" References: <35B3FBF7A0B5A14BA6E092D25B35298608250D51@xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com><8c99930d0911111753v38391e5g7e39244b51e0b2d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:03:08 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/P2UamJRFXEBXZTkDOERgt7TVluVCFfE4hAV3 Po4TwagV8uHMiEzeC770hdXPYzmsy8ySsCKqihjKSqE7dmXdyF 3o7Pii4TGG9MwKVEURv/LkpKnCrydRpd4kt81XhurU= Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:03:06 -0000 The sign says "IETF travel"... Spencer ----- Original Message ----- From: "LEVRAU, LIEVEN (LIEVEN)" To: "Andrew G. Malis" ; "Ole Jacobsen" Cc: <76attendees@ietf.org> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts Apparently down under (groundfloor) On the way to the bar/reception of the hotel. ./ Lieven -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew G. Malis Sent: 12 November 2009 02:54 To: Ole Jacobsen Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts Where is the JTB desk? On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > Right, well JTB should be able to provide you a receipt for the > accomodation part, the hotel should provide a receipt for anything > else. > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009, Sarah Banks (sabanks) wrote: > >> Hi, >> For those of you who require itemized breakouts of your hotel >> bills on hotel stationary, this might prove challenging; this >> morning at the Oriental Hotel they were unable to issue such a >> receipt... Even after I called a Japanese speaking coworker and >> had them speak on the phone :) FYI. >> >> Regards, >> Sarah >> > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Wed Nov 11 18:08:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B433A67F2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:08:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.541 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.541 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.058, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MrEihydvIBiK for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:08:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolverine01.qualcomm.com (wolverine01.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.254]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB693A67C2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:08:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=rg+ietf@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1257991754; x=1289527754; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer: x-message-note:date:to:from:subject:cc:content-type: x-random-sig-tag:x-ironport-av; z=Message-Id:=20|In-Reply-To:=0D=0A=20<35B3FBF7A0B5A14BA6E092D 25B35298608250D52@xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com>|References: =0D=0A=20<35B3FBF7A0B5A14BA6E092D25B35298608250D52@xmb-sj c-228.amer.cisco.com>|X-Mailer:=20Eudora=20for=20Mac=20OS =20X|X-message-Note:=20Warning:=20Outlook=20in=20use.=20 =20Upgrade=20to=20Eudora:=20|Date: =20Wed,=2011=20Nov=202009=2018:07:48=20-0800|To:=20"Sarah =20Banks=20(sabanks)"=20,=20|From:=20Randall=20Gellens=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[76attendees]=20Hotel=20receipts|Cc: =20<76attendees@ietf.org>|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B =20charset=3D"us-ascii"=20=3B=20format=3D"flowed" |X-Random-Sig-Tag:=201.0b28|X-IronPort-AV:=20E=3DMcAfee =3Bi=3D"5300,2777,5799"=3B=20a=3D"27410038"; bh=S96S5W4D+3ko0bQMD9h59ZrV93BFNBvDQV665K1ZQgo=; b=LRmfIS+wrkvpEekPkzDL20vJI6+9PBhk6fUc3zLVLPm4ZK7RkSWaGEvL 6YH9XYkitoEl0SU04xuEhmd5UebK4jaMyHGlpP8OIs6xCJ3kVskeMJqfY ENvnROuFqAlCNzEzpl+pTcx8dy8s/CXzd+FoXZGHsphZzpOV/DuBgA6HI A=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5300,2777,5799"; a="27410038" Received: from pdmz-ns-mip.qualcomm.com (HELO ithilien.qualcomm.com) ([199.106.114.10]) by wolverine01.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 11 Nov 2009 18:09:14 -0800 Received: from msgtransport04.qualcomm.com (msgtransport04.qualcomm.com [129.46.61.156]) by ithilien.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id nAC29E43008901 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:09:14 -0800 Received: from host-112-104.meeting.ietf.org (myvpn-r-627.ras.qualcomm.com [10.64.2.115]) by msgtransport04.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id nAC29BsQ013078; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:09:13 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <35B3FBF7A0B5A14BA6E092D25B35298608250D52@xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com> References: <35B3FBF7A0B5A14BA6E092D25B35298608250D52@xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X X-message-Note: Warning: Outlook in use. Upgrade to Eudora: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:07:48 -0800 To: "Sarah Banks (sabanks)" , From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:08:47 -0000 At 12:57 PM -0800 11/11/09, Sarah Banks (sabanks) wrote: > Well there you go :) they are correct though - for those who > prepaid the hotels were issued coupons, so they have "no idea" what > out daily breakout is. Some people prepaid for their hotels via JTB? -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- The fewer episodes of a TV show one has seen, the greater the chance that one has already viewed the episode one is watching. --Randall Gellens From kpfleming@digium.com Wed Nov 11 18:10:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747993A69A4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:10:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.314 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.314 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lev+QpTCsP7V for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:10:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.digium.com (mail.digium.com [216.207.245.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034233A694E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:10:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiler.digium.internal ([10.19.29.150] helo=jupiler.digium.com) by mail.digium.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N8P97-0002xL-Ta for 76attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:10:49 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECB2DFC828 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:10:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from jupiler.digium.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jupiler.digium.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wcbzcR+FwYo6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:10:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from [133.93.24.160] (host-24-160.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.160]) (Authenticated sender: kpfleming) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B194DFC827 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:10:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4AFB6EA7.7070303@digium.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:10:47 +0900 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" Organization: Digium, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <35B3FBF7A0B5A14BA6E092D25B35298608250D52@xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=05FB8DB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:10:24 -0000 Randall Gellens wrote: > At 12:57 PM -0800 11/11/09, Sarah Banks (sabanks) wrote: > >> Well there you go :) they are correct though - for those who prepaid >> the hotels were issued coupons, so they have "no idea" what out daily >> breakout is. > > Some people prepaid for their hotels via JTB? Indeed; reservations at the overflow hotels had to be paid by October 30. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org From adam@nostrum.com Wed Nov 11 18:11:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8313A6989 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:11:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.371 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.371 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.229, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CaLSHlWy2Lcs for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6086B3A6B4D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:11:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-16-62.meeting.ietf.org (host-16-62.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.62]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAC2Ax4C079199 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:11:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <4AFB6EB3.3050300@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:10:59 +0900 From: Adam Roach User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20090915 Thunderbird/3.0b4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall Gellens References: <35B3FBF7A0B5A14BA6E092D25B35298608250D52@xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 133.93.16.62 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:11:24 -0000 On 11/12/09 11:07 AM, Randall Gellens wrote: > At 12:57 PM -0800 11/11/09, Sarah Banks (sabanks) wrote: > >> Well there you go :) they are correct though - for those who prepaid >> the hotels were issued coupons, so they have "no idea" what out daily >> breakout is. > > Some people prepaid for their hotels via JTB? > If you used the IETF rate at an overflow hotel, it was mandatory to do so. /a From ole@cisco.com Wed Nov 11 18:13:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A589C3A69A4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:13:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.576 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.576 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VSzelUxwenTQ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:13:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7073A68CD for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:13:37 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAK7++kqrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbADFAoEbCAGHfgmOXoJSgWoE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,726,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="430470044" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2009 02:14:06 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAC2E6YE006546; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:14:06 GMT Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:13:23 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Randall Gellens In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Non-smoking Carousel Sushi X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:13:39 -0000 That is indeed the place I described in an earlier message, but you have a lot more useful navigation info, thanks! Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Wed, 11 Nov 2009, Randall Gellens wrote: > The concierge found a restaurant that is all non-smoking, which serves sushi > both from a carousel (conveyor belt) and from a menu. It is reasonably priced, > tasty, and close by. > > It's called Nonta-Zushi and is on the first basement floor (B1F) of the Pacela > center, behind the SOGO department store and next to the Rihga Royal Hotel. > > -- > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- > This fortune intentionally not included. > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From denghui02@gmail.com Wed Nov 11 18:17:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0A228C188 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:17:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MpzPiYEyTEHg for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:17:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050CC28C17B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:17:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so891541qyk.32 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:17:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=f0ANCvQStd6jtphAMtUplxsCg3j3BxsNCAX3P8ml+6A=; b=PBY/30QZO9sAVVeG/r/Mzjtfvi+ZascOfgzG9VF2kUZRzH8ZvFAWX/Bm8TJa5InRZ3 aitsc6PYE/ojCOi2tYua9aVjfkOrQSKxtqTVR7LlS+TT1kDOCbwSIkuuQPb4P+9mIm9W L54/qViSEDiOZFq0FkluKa8ZSFL09tuP9+aZo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dGbN7GeloJtQHLNrdDlbOCMbHaIaiPqGWcFLJcS+Ruri4LzWBjXeMRAjPDrkHEcxNM mtSueHxEZZEV74W/X7raFdnvkkX2mWys4TGlfx8N35D8g3gkwWFezFqTTOcMXj2pZ9ei y8XoVuXV5fgFwzEu1d+qjpuQPJLm0wv91bqA4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.58.201 with SMTP id i9mr1261334qah.8.1257992248790; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:17:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <35B3FBF7A0B5A14BA6E092D25B35298608250D51@xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com> References: <35B3FBF7A0B5A14BA6E092D25B35298608250D51@xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:17:28 +0900 Message-ID: <1d38a3350911111817j3f271129ve1b8ce13b8c4340d@mail.gmail.com> From: Hui Deng To: "Sarah Banks (sabanks)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:17:03 -0000 One question, when will they leave that place, because I may check out on saturday, then I will know how much payment I really made until my check out? Many thanks -Hui 2009/11/12 Sarah Banks (sabanks) : > Hi, > =A0=A0 For those of you who require itemized breakouts of your hotel bill= s on > hotel stationary, this might prove challenging; this morning at the Orien= tal > Hotel they were unable to issue such a receipt... Even after I called a > Japanese speaking coworker and had them speak on the phone :) FYI. > > Regards, > Sarah > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Wed Nov 11 18:19:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8AE43A68FC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:19:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.953 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.953 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.646, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yd51WnhPU05u for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolverine01.qualcomm.com (wolverine01.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.254]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B211428C19F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:18:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=rg+ietf@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1257992363; x=1289528363; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer: x-message-note:date:to:from:subject:content-type: x-random-sig-tag:x-ironport-av; z=Message-Id:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|References:=20=0D=0A=20|X-Mailer:=20Eudora=20for=20Mac=20OS=20X |X-message-Note:=20Warning:=20Outlook=20in=20use.=20=20Up grade=20to=20Eudora:=20|Date:=20We d,=2011=20Nov=202009=2018:18:39=20-0800|To:=20Ross=20Finl ayson=20,=20<76attendees@ietf.org> |From:=20Randall=20Gellens=20 |Subject:=20Re:=20[76attendees]=20Latitude/longitude=20(w as=20Re:=20Moving=20sushi)|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B =20charset=3D"us-ascii"=20=3B=20format=3D"flowed" |X-Random-Sig-Tag:=201.0b28|X-IronPort-AV:=20E=3DMcAfee =3Bi=3D"5300,2777,5799"=3B=20a=3D"27410653"; bh=soyz5H28RVfdwqbyT0hyEEOEZSqyqeukS7SKj//Zw8Y=; b=VLb+rZw+mTY/Wpc6iX12V/uy5N0wCVdtSktBduSVBvOznAH7N6pk0oHl PZ9KKpkIKMpAoqFUmd8OfUa/eFFoLZxm6Ycv/5fLUqPHKHC44dQBK5kuq fl177wwyo7jGxWCRRbFUaElFC59yEVRG4p5JZa9CVlJgKC/gG8NkyKLaK 8=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5300,2777,5799"; a="27410653" Received: from pdmz-ns-mip.qualcomm.com (HELO numenor.qualcomm.com) ([199.106.114.10]) by wolverine01.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 11 Nov 2009 18:19:23 -0800 Received: from msgtransport02.qualcomm.com (msgtransport02.qualcomm.com [129.46.61.151]) by numenor.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id nAC2JNDd022591 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:19:23 -0800 Received: from host-112-104.meeting.ietf.org (myvpn-r-627.ras.qualcomm.com [10.64.2.115]) by msgtransport02.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id nAC2JLBT026211; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:19:22 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X X-message-Note: Warning: Outlook in use. Upgrade to Eudora: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:18:39 -0800 To: Ross Finlayson , <76attendees@ietf.org> From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Subject: Re: [76attendees] Latitude/longitude (was Re: Moving sushi) X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:19:03 -0000 At 6:49 PM +0900 11/11/09, Ross Finlayson wrote: > This sort of information, while greatly appreciated, isn't > particularly optimal, because - based on these directions - the > place will still be rather hard to find. (For starters, where/what > is "Sogo"?) It's very low-tech, but the concierge can provide directions and a map that clearly shows us and the SOGO department store. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- If I had my life to live over, I'd live over a delicatessen. --Unknown From spencer@wonderhamster.org Wed Nov 11 18:19:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB1228C13A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:19:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.862 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.862 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.736, BAYES_00=-2.599, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AIrRpBecbSFI for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A6F28C12B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from S73602b (host-24-135.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.135]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LgaNB-1MMvSv227B-00oUxv; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:19:48 -0500 Message-ID: <5ADB0B206FC74E6A91BCE17304071A25@china.huawei.com> From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: "Hui Deng" , "Sarah Banks \(sabanks\)" References: <35B3FBF7A0B5A14BA6E092D25B35298608250D51@xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com> <1d38a3350911111817j3f271129ve1b8ce13b8c4340d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:19:23 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+E0JcID/c1XacskbImrwjmjNjLS2knMENoPJT PgivXaiknMiW5OqwaBS56qkXobL/VJhB3yeqOtM78BMEVf8qUK 1AUsCT5K8rkK67Y06/iglx6TUzJvEkv2Fr0y9LH0m8= Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:19:21 -0000 you can pick up your receipt now (i picked mine up this morning)... spencer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hui Deng" To: "Sarah Banks (sabanks)" Cc: <76attendees@ietf.org> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts One question, when will they leave that place, because I may check out on saturday, then I will know how much payment I really made until my check out? Many thanks -Hui 2009/11/12 Sarah Banks (sabanks) : > Hi, > For those of you who require itemized breakouts of your hotel bills on > hotel stationary, this might prove challenging; this morning at the > Oriental > Hotel they were unable to issue such a receipt... Even after I called a > Japanese speaking coworker and had them speak on the phone :) FYI. > > Regards, > Sarah > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From deepanshu@huawei.com Wed Nov 11 18:19:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C68728C184 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:19:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.863 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.863 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.736, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8Jtf+ZQmD9lu for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:19:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from szxga01-in.huawei.com (szxga01-in.huawei.com [119.145.14.64]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17203A692A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:19:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (szxga01-in [172.24.2.3]) by szxga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KSZ00LKM5597K@szxga01-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:19:58 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.1.3]) by szxga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KSZ00FQX559T5@szxga01-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:19:57 +0800 (CST) Received: from jys8055621 (host-17-129.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.17.129]) by szxml01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KSZ004JK558E5@szxml01-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:19:57 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:20:04 +0800 From: Deepanshu To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-id: <005a01ca633e$a5d803c0$81115d85@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_v0Nv+oeC53tjEWABxE9xDw)" Thread-index: AcpjPqUi/1b1bp1+RraK1B4FIUR+oQ== Subject: [76attendees] Is peace memorial museum is free for us? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:19:32 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_v0Nv+oeC53tjEWABxE9xDw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Is visiting peace memorial is free for us? On ietf76.jp it said it is. But, in context of PASPY card it is said that the card can be used to get discounted ticket to museum. So what actually it is? --Boundary_(ID_v0Nv+oeC53tjEWABxE9xDw) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Is visiting peace memorial = is free for us? On ietf76.jp it said it is. But, in context of PASPY card it is = said that the card can be used to get discounted ticket to museum. So what = actually it is?

 

--Boundary_(ID_v0Nv+oeC53tjEWABxE9xDw)-- From denghui02@gmail.com Wed Nov 11 18:27:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3506F3A6843 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:27:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.298 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.298 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.301, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C2E6bqfj3iHy for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:27:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5290E3A6828 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:27:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so366531qwb.31 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:27:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VuDSXldn2sHUrfTbfzTGc6CbhiKqeWm1BmIddYn/OHs=; b=i8mnurq1JsNEsTaUZTXWV8YO0o52LvbakoelNlK9xSDlU9+HraYkBZQgm03pWXn6Yz BOqTPzxs2JsvcyOoN1pvYjwRoc6hhf3hfo4jAbXamTah4gqq9tZMQbKPqq6g3Us/mUgz 23xUBpjMNJUi1+qnwhtBsDVey1M8Ayz6CJXA8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=DqzX5c+k43kpPeLKzqMXXrjHG2G/5q9fZEeM5xBOVcBOp5vTTTmRIk7aRerFoUcXtX kksOjOKGeYo6LuUL982oLUdb6mVRQDOxqc9R8P1GiJLOWJtbixuZogCrkEwv10Wh9fra JOLiqzH901k2elo/61HYFMCPIqfJjXfBjxofw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.91.134 with SMTP id n6mr1256300qam.245.1257992860137; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:27:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5ADB0B206FC74E6A91BCE17304071A25@china.huawei.com> References: <35B3FBF7A0B5A14BA6E092D25B35298608250D51@xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com> <1d38a3350911111817j3f271129ve1b8ce13b8c4340d@mail.gmail.com> <5ADB0B206FC74E6A91BCE17304071A25@china.huawei.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:27:40 +0900 Message-ID: <1d38a3350911111827s68de847bw90e60fa713521a98@mail.gmail.com> From: Hui Deng To: Spencer Dawkins Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:27:15 -0000 Thanks Spencer, What if I have consumed again on Friday night? Many thanks -Hui 2009/11/12 Spencer Dawkins : > you can pick up your receipt now (i picked mine up this morning)... > > spencer > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hui Deng" > To: "Sarah Banks (sabanks)" > Cc: <76attendees@ietf.org> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:17 AM > Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts > > > One question, when will they leave that place, because I may check out > on saturday, > then I will know how much payment I really made until my check out? > > Many thanks > > -Hui > > 2009/11/12 Sarah Banks (sabanks) : >> >> Hi, >> For those of you who require itemized breakouts of your hotel bills on >> hotel stationary, this might prove challenging; this morning at the >> Oriental >> Hotel they were unable to issue such a receipt... Even after I called a >> Japanese speaking coworker and had them speak on the phone :) FYI. >> >> Regards, >> Sarah >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> >> > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From jgs@juniper.net Wed Nov 11 18:30:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3998D3A6828 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:30:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.49 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.49 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.109, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TttOvCaTwMZJ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:30:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from exprod7og101.obsmtp.com (exprod7og101.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.155]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3955B3A67A6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:30:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob101.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKSvtzXMa9FvLa/XzHJzKJw6qf0huY6Nto@postini.com; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:30:55 PST Received: from p-emfe01-sac.jnpr.net (66.129.254.72) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.375.2; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:28:00 -0800 Received: from p-emlb02-sac.jnpr.net ([66.129.254.47]) by p-emfe01-sac.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:28:01 -0800 Received: from emailsmtp55.jnpr.net ([172.24.18.132]) by p-emlb02-sac.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:28:00 -0800 Received: from magenta.juniper.net ([172.17.27.123]) by emailsmtp55.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:28:00 -0800 Received: from jgs-sslvpn-nc.jnpr.net (jgs-sslvpn-nc.jnpr.net [172.23.8.196]) by magenta.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id nAC2Rwj01202; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:27:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jgs@juniper.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: "John G. Scudder" In-Reply-To: <005a01ca633e$a5d803c0$81115d85@china.huawei.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:27:57 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <7436CF42-3D9A-4216-A3E0-F3FA557506D3@juniper.net> References: <005a01ca633e$a5d803c0$81115d85@china.huawei.com> To: Deepanshu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2009 02:28:00.0024 (UTC) FILETIME=[C0AEA180:01CA633F] Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Is peace memorial museum is free for us? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:30:27 -0000 On Nov 12, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Deepanshu wrote: > Is visiting peace memorial is free for us? On ietf76.jp it said it > is. But, in context of PASPY card it is said that the card can be > used to get discounted ticket to museum. So what actually it is? Yesterday we asked at the ticket counter and were told it was free. There was an RFID reader to the left of the ticket counter, we swiped our RFIDs and that was that. --John From kaori@center2.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp Wed Nov 11 18:32:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F6C3A6828 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:32:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.177 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.177 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.333, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ux64j1C44lOf for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from center2.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (center2.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.42.133]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA3E3A67A6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from center2.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by center2.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (8.13.7/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAC2Vuv2001914; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:31:56 +0900 (JST) Received: (from kaori@localhost) by center2.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id nAC2Vuaq001912; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:31:56 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200911120231.nAC2Vuaq001912@center2.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> To: Deepanshu In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:20:04 JST. <005a01ca633e$a5d803c0$81115d85@china.huawei.com> From: Kaori Maeda MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1911.1257993116.1@center2> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:31:56 +0900 Sender: kaori@center2.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Is peace memorial museum is free for us? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:32:02 -0000 There is a IC card reader at the peace memorial park. So please bring your Paspy or RFID tag. Then entrance fee is free. > Is visiting peace memorial is free for us? On ietf76.jp it said it is. But, > in context of PASPY card it is said that the card can be used to get > discounted ticket to museum. So what actually it is? Kaori Maeda Hiroshima City Univ. From JuanCarlos.Zuniga@InterDigital.com Wed Nov 11 18:44:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5583A6864 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:44:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.854 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.854 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.744, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0mgpdg0IQA2e for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:44:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from idcout.InterDigital.com (idcexmail.interdigital.com [12.32.197.135]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04973A6809 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:43:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from interdigital.com ([10.0.128.11]) by idcout.InterDigital.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:44:27 -0500 Received: from SAM.InterDigital.com ([10.30.2.11]) by interdigital.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:44:28 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:45:24 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4F3D1A02-6D5A-488E-8FBF-3A7637285BBF@satlinker.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] RFID and toilets Thread-Index: AcpiqKilUbnqAKq3T/G0i9lTYLROUwAmSXxw References: <20091111061827.GA18181@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> <4F3D1A02-6D5A-488E-8FBF-3A7637285BBF@satlinker.com> From: "Zuniga, Juan Carlos" To: "Ali KAHLANE" , "Stephane Bortzmeyer" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2009 02:44:28.0175 (UTC) FILETIME=[0DAA81F0:01CA6342] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and toilets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:44:00 -0000 Yeah... By application I meant more "context transfer" than really = "presence". To make things worse, I just found out that the ones in the Ladies' room = have an extra "music" button...! -----Original Message----- From: Ali KAHLANE [mailto:ali.kahlane@satlinker.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009 3:27 AM To: Stephane Bortzmeyer Cc: Zuniga, Juan Carlos; 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and toilets It could as it could not ... raise, As a french saying goes "peut-=EAtre bien qu'oui peut-=EAtre bien = qu'non*! * "May be, may be not, who knows?" Cordiales salutations Ali KAHLANE Pr=E9sident ' +213 21 542 873 6 +213 21 542 872 ( +213 661 527 094 ( +213 770 527 095 - 56, Lot Ennahda (La C=F4te Birmandre=EFs) - 16012 Alger - Alg=E9rie * ali.kahlane@satlinker.com : www.satlinker.com Ce message ainsi que ses pi=E8ces jointes sont confidentiels et = =E9tablis =20 =E0 l'intention du ou des destinataires. 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Le 11 nov. 09 =E0 07:18, Stephane Bortzmeyer a =E9crit : > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 01:02:39AM -0500, > Zuniga, Juan Carlos wrote > a message of 189 lines which said: > >> Judging by the sophistication of the toilets here, I wonder if >> someone can come up with yet another "nice and interesting" >> application for our RFID badge... :) > > Could it raise some privacy issues? > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From spencer@wonderhamster.org Wed Nov 11 18:54:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0483A6809 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:54:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.954 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.954 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.644, BAYES_00=-2.599, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dBsYOGawBJJz for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:54:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFC33A677E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:54:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from S73602b (host-24-135.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.135]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M87fV-1MCzpD0jo1-00wEVF; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:54:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: "Hui Deng" References: <35B3FBF7A0B5A14BA6E092D25B35298608250D51@xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com> <1d38a3350911111817j3f271129ve1b8ce13b8c4340d@mail.gmail.com> <5ADB0B206FC74E6A91BCE17304071A25@china.huawei.com> <1d38a3350911111827s68de847bw90e60fa713521a98@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:54:17 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/sjUJLzKKRoSvTbjgZAsIzBiALQGf5alkd0OZ /fUvKvtgHrPXBBcgbk4UHybjb38zw2PxHHrOepixFsPF7re7/h 8LOwteVBql3Y2XpdgyE4D9GpurQ+ZRayC/c55MJ2bA= Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:54:09 -0000 you've already paid - you can pick up your receipt today even if you're staying for more nights. sorry i didn't make this clearer (doing e-mail during a BOF!) Spencer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hui Deng" To: "Spencer Dawkins" Cc: <76attendees@ietf.org> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts > Thanks Spencer, > > What if I have consumed again on Friday night? > Many thanks > > -Hui > > 2009/11/12 Spencer Dawkins : >> you can pick up your receipt now (i picked mine up this morning)... >> >> spencer >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hui Deng" >> To: "Sarah Banks (sabanks)" >> Cc: <76attendees@ietf.org> >> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:17 AM >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts >> >> >> One question, when will they leave that place, because I may check out >> on saturday, >> then I will know how much payment I really made until my check out? >> >> Many thanks >> >> -Hui >> >> 2009/11/12 Sarah Banks (sabanks) : >>> >>> Hi, >>> For those of you who require itemized breakouts of your hotel bills on >>> hotel stationary, this might prove challenging; this morning at the >>> Oriental >>> Hotel they were unable to issue such a receipt... Even after I called a >>> Japanese speaking coworker and had them speak on the phone :) FYI. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sarah >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 76attendees mailing list >>> 76attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> From wilmer@google.com Wed Nov 11 18:57:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85D23A696E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:57:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.791 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.791 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.186, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NfgHHQsBtzTK for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:57:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out.google.com (smtp-out.google.com [216.239.45.13]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCE43A677E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:57:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from wpaz37.hot.corp.google.com (wpaz37.hot.corp.google.com [172.24.198.101]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id nAC2wOEL019820 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:58:25 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; t=1257994705; bh=NXodOSS3K/9B8ORhdv2U/9gvNfc=; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID:Subject:From: To:Cc:Content-Type; b=pKWltWrOco/s9WWZ5IjINbrtndwVSt15JT2n7JKDG7Oa6q50jvSBGxiKLGxvN4AU3 t+lbdIudINBRULauB1UTA== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=beta; d=google.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to: cc:content-type:x-system-of-record; b=hdRvjg+ly6wJaWFDoM15KnpyOM9jaG/2QlmNuqrftHf3gbe3MtjXN833SGHeKg4gP GRyto6HKh/6OWpyz+2JOg== Received: from iwn31 (iwn31.prod.google.com [10.241.68.95]) by wpaz37.hot.corp.google.com with ESMTP id nAC2wJAx023192 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:58:20 -0800 Received: by iwn31 with SMTP id 31so1729698iwn.0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:58:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.5.90 with SMTP id 26mr923618ibu.42.1257994699091; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:58:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <41c05ea00911102223x323a3dd2r510deeba1a076c35@mail.gmail.com> References: <41c05ea00911102223x323a3dd2r510deeba1a076c35@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:58:19 +0900 Message-ID: <7c31c8cc0911111858p7645ade1rb09304134965838@mail.gmail.com> From: Wilmer van der Gaast To: Warren Kumari Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-System-Of-Record: true Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org, "Zuniga, Juan Carlos" Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and toilets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:57:57 -0000 2009/11/11 Warren Kumari : > Where I work we have Toto brand toilet seats, but instead of having > the controls connected to the seat they are on a separate box on the > wall (much more convenient to reach). Anyway, we discovered that the > communication from the control to the seat itself is over an IR link > -- for April Fools day we used a learning universal remote to learn > the various commands. I couldn't quite bring myself to use it on a > victim though.... > Also I'm told that in one of our buildings things *were* once miswired already and the remote control on wall A controlled toilet B *behind* that wall. Oops. Wilmer. From sabanks@cisco.com Wed Nov 11 19:08:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECEB13A6870 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:08:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.398, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BlOkYtxXJJE7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:08:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com (sj-iport-2.cisco.com [171.71.176.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AB53A689C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:08:54 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlUFAFYL+0qrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbACCIjCYCaoOmAmEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,726,1249257600"; d="scan'208,217";a="223453455" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2009 03:09:23 +0000 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAC39MAr008052; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:09:23 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.125]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:09:22 -0800 Received: from 10.21.68.62 ([10.21.68.62]) by xmb-sjc-228.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.125]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:09:22 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:09:15 -0800 From: Sarah Banks To: Hui Deng Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Hotel receipts Thread-Index: AcpjPkkdX3f7KeUeSouvFJaicLetEQABzrEk In-Reply-To: <1d38a3350911111817j3f271129ve1b8ce13b8c4340d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3340811358_2138599" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2009 03:09:22.0642 (UTC) FILETIME=[88701320:01CA6345] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:08:58 -0000 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3340811358_2138599 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi Hui, You=B9d most likely receive what I received; a bill for everything BUT th= e prepaid room. If you need the receipt, apparently you=B9re supposed to pick i= t up at the JTB desk. Thanks, Sarah On 11/11/09 6:17 PM, "Hui Deng" so eloquently stated: > One question, when will they leave that place, because I may check out > on saturday, > then I will know how much payment I really made until my check out? >=20 > Many thanks >=20 > -Hui >=20 > 2009/11/12 Sarah Banks (sabanks) : >> > Hi, >> > =A0=A0 For those of you who require itemized breakouts of your hotel bills= on >> > hotel stationary, this might prove challenging; this morning at the >> Oriental >> > Hotel they were unable to issue such a receipt... Even after I called = a >> > Japanese speaking coworker and had them speak on the phone :) FYI. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Sarah >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > 76attendees mailing list >> > 76attendees@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> > >> > >=20 --B_3340811358_2138599 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [76attendees] Hotel receipts Hi Hui,=
    You’d most likely receive what I received; a = bill for everything BUT the prepaid room. If you need the receipt, apparentl= y you’re supposed to pick it up at the JTB desk.

Thanks,
Sarah


On 11/11/09 6:17 PM, "Hui Deng" <denghui02@gmail.com> so eloquently stated:

One question, when will they leave that place, because I = may check out
on saturday,
then I will know how much payment I really made until my check out?

Many thanks

-Hui

2009/11/12 Sarah Banks (sabanks) <sabanks@ci= sco.com>:
> Hi,
> =A0=A0 For those of you who require itemized breakouts of your hotel bills= on
> hotel stationary, this might prove challenging; this morning at the Or= iental
> Hotel they were unable to issue such a receipt... Even after I called = a
> Japanese speaking coworker and had them speak on the phone :) FYI.
>
> Regards,
> Sarah
>
> _______________________________________________
> 76attendees mailing list
> 76attendees@ietf.org
> https://ww= w.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees
>
>

--B_3340811358_2138599-- From bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr Wed Nov 11 19:43:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9895F28C1DA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:43:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.711 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.711 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.111, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JNBEgALCKHDM for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bortzmeyer.org (bortzmeyer-1-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f12:420::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD00628C1BB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:43:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.bortzmeyer.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 89CF595216; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:43:31 +0100 (CET) Received: by horcrux (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1282B157767; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:24:42 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:24:42 +0900 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: Deepanshu Message-ID: <20091112022441.GA753@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> References: <005a01ca633e$a5d803c0$81115d85@china.huawei.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <005a01ca633e$a5d803c0$81115d85@china.huawei.com> X-Transport: UUCP rules X-Operating-System: Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Is peace memorial museum is free for us? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:43:06 -0000 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:20:04AM +0800, Deepanshu wrote a message of 187 lines which said: > Is visiting peace memorial is free for us? On ietf76.jp it said it > is. But, in context of PASPY card it is said that the card can be > used to get discounted ticket to museum. So what actually it is? In any case, the normal fare is 50 yens, which is nothing. From mellon@fugue.com Wed Nov 11 19:49:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C058428C1DA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:49:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.849 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.849 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.250, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ODuJHirLf86B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:49:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6E53A6B3F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:49:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::128:226:b0ff:fef1:d7ae] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:128:226:b0ff:fef1:d7ae]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 00F3834E5607 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:52:52 -0700 (MST) From: Ted Lemon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:50:17 +0900 Message-Id: <8A44BD40-CC91-4328-8C16-92EABA8DA372@fugue.com> To: 76attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: [76attendees] Laundry? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:49:55 -0000 Has anybody had a successful laundry experience thus far? From rhe@nosc.ja.net Wed Nov 11 19:54:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32213A67D2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:54:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.344, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0o8hl8h3T6Px for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:54:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from nosc.ja.net (nosc.ja.net [IPv6:2001:630:0:40::14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160E83A676A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:54:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from vpn-134.ja.net ([128.86.24.134]) by nosc.ja.net with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Qlz-0000jW-Gs; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:55:03 +0000 Message-ID: <4AFB8716.5030202@nosc.ja.net> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:55:02 +0000 From: Rob Evans User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Lemon References: <8A44BD40-CC91-4328-8C16-92EABA8DA372@fugue.com> In-Reply-To: <8A44BD40-CC91-4328-8C16-92EABA8DA372@fugue.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Laundry? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:54:37 -0000 > Has anybody had a successful laundry experience thus far? If you count gaining an extra sock from the Sunroute successful, yep. Unfortunately it doesn't match with any of my others. :( Rob From john.buford@gmail.com Wed Nov 11 19:56:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4943928C1DA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:56:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.976 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.976 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ivb-aibuUUjr for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:56:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com (mail-fx0-f215.google.com [209.85.220.215]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC4628C1AC for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:56:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so1811304fxm.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:56:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:reply-to:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=jBmLXKOrtF/f2Ii1tsf9lpEZrA3E5GQqx98cMaWpzn8=; b=eyc7hH4hdtYsQ7mnxbPSgYwZn8E7HMQYPtUI4QuX9EVXyJ1Px/NSKNz/0ESPRwL7wm kQR6pvJFHCxiChnCcdYGRZM+SiLfQMbM1WGRQQHMZVFHqrMX7RptSaQnRKy+ozCzULij esfcpQN06ciKpUhdq8SVDQ2rw3X9jo4gXPm2U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=YAkaQYFU2209RYn1gDuada+u5HHlhRQxIeE0Y7C81REJQC9rLGVqvSD8/tNfmj2mX7 RwrqnU7FOK69q4apnYxUIHDfrhNhwK/tIfULIHrm7h/8GqSZtf23xrp5YGFgHETMXQk/ kdmfe/CdjhAFvPMh5I9vA4Jj7KmH4J1IXKu/w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: john.buford@gmail.com Received: by 10.239.143.219 with SMTP id l27mr255453hba.162.1257998219266; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:56:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8A44BD40-CC91-4328-8C16-92EABA8DA372@fugue.com> References: <8A44BD40-CC91-4328-8C16-92EABA8DA372@fugue.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:56:59 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e0fa70ccbc9d2dce Message-ID: <4ce32a820911111956l300a9d96t4caf9c8605d87538@mail.gmail.com> From: John Buford To: Ted Lemon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f1d8ccfccc7404782488b0 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Laundry? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: buford@samrg.org List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:56:37 -0000 --001485f1d8ccfccc7404782488b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, got same day service (Hotel Granvia). Haven't had any problems in past trips to Japan either. John On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: > Has anybody had a successful laundry experience thus far? > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > --001485f1d8ccfccc7404782488b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, got same day service (Hotel Granvia).=A0
Haven't had any probl= ems in past trips to Japan either.

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--001485f1d8ccfccc7404782488b0-- From hhelvoort@huawei.com Wed Nov 11 19:57:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FA228C1E5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:57:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.545 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.545 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.050, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28a4t7FcybXt for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:57:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from szxga02-in.huawei.com (unknown [119.145.14.65]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515DF28C1DA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:57:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (szxga02-in [172.24.2.6]) by szxga02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KSZ008IT9NYUK@szxga02-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:57:34 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.1.6]) by szxga02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KSZ005HG9NY1J@szxga02-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:57:34 +0800 (CST) Received: from host-19-196.meeting.ietf.org (host-19-196.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.19.196]) by szxml02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0KSZ00ENT9NW0H@szxml02-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:57:34 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:57:32 +0100 From: Huub van Helvoort In-reply-to: <005a01ca633e$a5d803c0$81115d85@china.huawei.com> To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-id: <4AFB87AC.2000301@huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) References: <005a01ca633e$a5d803c0$81115d85@china.huawei.com> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Is peace memorial museum is free for us? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: hhelvoort@huawei.com List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:57:17 -0000 > Is visiting peace memorial is free for us? On ietf76.jp it said it is. > But, in context of PASPY card it is said that the card can be used to > get discounted ticket to museum. So what actually it is? Yes, with IETF registration it is free, normal admission fee is 50 yen, so you save a lot of money ;-) Rgds, Huub. -- ================================================================ Always remember that you are unique...just like everyone else... 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X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:58:08 -0000 Ted Lemon allegedly wrote on 11/12/2009 12:50 PM: > Has anybody had a successful laundry experience thus far? I've successfully washed some clothes in the bathtub using hotel shampoo. 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X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:00:54 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If anyone's staying at the Dormy Inn, Coin laundry is on the 8th floor. Seiichi Ted Lemon wrote: > Has anybody had a successful laundry experience thus far? > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkr7iIIACgkQcrhTYfxyMkIERQCfcohCQIKp6xi6EtgsVIuUR89S MPkAn3yIXYrUcvGAquRoMsh48JVMaplP =dIXm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From weiler@watson.org Wed Nov 11 20:14:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515893A67D2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:14:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.690, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fu7MdLp91Ijy for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1683A6767 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:14:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAC4EeTi059740 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:14:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from weiler@watson.org) Received: from localhost (weiler@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nAC4Eev3059737 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:14:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from weiler@watson.org) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: weiler owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:14:40 -0500 (EST) From: Samuel Weiler To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:14:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: [76attendees] "Products fair" X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:14:14 -0000 At the center of the underground mall (walk north from the ANA, following the trolley lines, past the Hondori shopping street, to where the tracks turn east-west and you can't cross the street again, and then go down stairs or elevator), is the "Hiroshima Products something" that appears to have been set up just for us. It appears to be where the brush-making and crane-folding demos were set up earlier. It's not horribly special, but I suggest stopping by, if you can, if only to see how the red carpet has been rolled out for us. They handed me a few free Carp pens (the Carp are the local baseball team). Among the product displays is a Mazda rotary engine cutaway(!). -- Sam From rlmorgan@washington.edu Wed Nov 11 20:23:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4DF28C1CC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:23:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5QaN5MOGhtD7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:23:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E92B3A63EB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:23:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.14.3+UW09.06/8.14.3+UW09.09) with ESMTP id nAC4ORrx029399 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:24:27 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from host-24-167.meeting.ietf.org (host-24-167.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.167]) (authenticated authid=rlmorgan) by smtp.washington.edu (8.14.3+UW09.06/8.14.3+UW09.05) with ESMTP id nAC4OOtY029098 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:24:27 -0800 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:24:24 +0900 (JST) From: "RL 'Bob' Morgan" X-X-Sender: rlmorgan@perf.cac.washington.edu To: IETF 76 <76attendees@ietf.org> Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LFD 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.12.40628 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report=' BODY_SIZE_1000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_200_299 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, FROM_EDU_TLD 0, SMALL_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: [76attendees] ceramics, kitchenware? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:24:00 -0000 I am hoping to find some ceramic bowls or other kinds of ceramic kitchenwares as souvenirs. Any suggestions for shops? I've been to Sogo and didn't find anything that grabbed me. Thanks, - RL "Bob" From bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr Wed Nov 11 20:25:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A4F3A68C6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:25:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WTpYPI4l1D4m for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:25:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bortzmeyer.org (bortzmeyer-1-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f12:420::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2EF3A63EB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:25:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.bortzmeyer.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id EEE379525B; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:26:11 +0100 (CET) Received: by horcrux (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B6DE21575BA; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:25:34 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:25:34 +0900 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: Ted Lemon Message-ID: <20091112042534.GA6801@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> References: <8A44BD40-CC91-4328-8C16-92EABA8DA372@fugue.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8A44BD40-CC91-4328-8C16-92EABA8DA372@fugue.com> X-Transport: UUCP rules X-Operating-System: Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Laundry? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:25:46 -0000 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:50:17PM +0900, Ted Lemon wrote a message of 6 lines which said: > Has anybody had a successful laundry experience thus far? No problem at the Mitsui Garden Hotel, same day service, reliable protocol, all data, I mean clothes, acknowledged and echoed back. From ole@cisco.com Wed Nov 11 20:26:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08723A6911 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:26:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.577 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.577 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zQiK3NfnED-X for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:26:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5ABE3A6901 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:26:19 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEACcd+0qrR7H+/2dsb2JhbADEaYEbCAGHfgmOWYJSgWoEjBs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,726,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="430538218" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2009 04:26:48 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAC4Qmj3004630; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:26:48 GMT Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:26:05 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "RL 'Bob' Morgan" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: IETF 76 <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] ceramics, kitchenware? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:26:20 -0000 Trey the backstreets, like the first one on your LEFT as you exit the hotel. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From erkkih@ee.oulu.fi Wed Nov 11 20:31:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD14E3A6767 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:31:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.239 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.239 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.360, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GK7Va0xbiXRo for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:31:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ee.oulu.fi (ee.oulu.fi [130.231.61.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34243A67A6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:31:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from stekt1 (stekt1 [130.231.60.41]) by ee.oulu.fi (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAC4W341019853 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:32:03 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:32:03 +0200 (EET) From: Erkki Harjula X-X-Sender: erkkih@stekt1 To: "RL 'Bob' Morgan" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: IETF 76 <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] ceramics, kitchenware? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:31:40 -0000 Hi, at least Fukuya mall (next to railway station) sells them. -Erkki On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, RL 'Bob' Morgan wrote: > > I am hoping to find some ceramic bowls or other kinds of ceramic kitchenwares > as souvenirs. Any suggestions for shops? I've been to Sogo and didn't find > anything that grabbed me. > > Thanks, > > - RL "Bob" From dykim6@gmail.com Wed Nov 11 20:34:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3CC3A677E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:34:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.569 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.569 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.407, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rxVYw-7elsAu for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:34:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536E23A6B6A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:34:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by pwi6 with SMTP id 6so1226676pwi.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:34:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=0aBlMIlPsKVFvZahZBgejqw/7RrpmscjCbBEETexuS0=; b=ddi3a3vrqUX6ZmGCQZV5mfVIWbm15rtdM7bTxNlwV1kg7ufhpdOsbegkR8rZPpS2gA piaya1SIFHeyuEUG1dliibjM7n5Tw8SVbcCQOlJy+5r88HTsLNqnW4hQtXSHR152r5IL +quP/nXO2NG8O49ofwx5fRAIgO9YSoH4Bmcgs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=dJMiA0/JA52Lhe8URDEddlkaKAX71/OlhPSArmWT9L7c1V8g5BRCfCpaTzIl3CQb1K wHKjc5KRGYT7/5QvghLNGBFw7x0dXe4GjOdgxokMQz/1ZUnDRvcB4sH7R/mlT55LW1mm aBuDp84l34CYHGImh/cJAp7EMG55NjSWtLDVI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: dykim6@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.118.9 with SMTP id q9mr259762wfc.49.1258000494784; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:34:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:34:54 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1381eaafc3eb0051 Message-ID: <3938a04d0911112034j3fa6aaa3x113a8a320346786c@mail.gmail.com> From: Dae Young KIM To: "RL 'Bob' Morgan" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0b8549e715d0478251058 Cc: IETF 76 <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] ceramics, kitchenware? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:34:29 -0000 --001636e0b8549e715d0478251058 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Out of the hotel gate, turn left, turn left again, follow the street about four block down, you'll hit a roofed shopping street, right at the right corner, Adidas shoes shop, 3rd floor, selling stationaries and quite a lot of porcelains and ceramics. The bell desk of this hotel might also give you a map to get there. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:24 PM, RL 'Bob' Morgan wrote: > > I am hoping to find some ceramic bowls or other kinds of ceramic > kitchenwares as souvenirs. Any suggestions for shops? I've been to Sogo > and didn't find anything that grabbed me. > > Thanks, > > - RL "Bob" > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > -- Regards, DY http://cnu.kr/~dykim --001636e0b8549e715d0478251058 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Out of the hotel gate, turn left, turn left again, follow the street about = four block down, you'll hit a roofed shopping street, right at the righ= t corner, Adidas shoes shop, 3rd floor, selling stationaries and quite a lo= t of porcelains and ceramics.

The bell desk of this hotel might also give you a map to get there.
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:24 PM, RL 'Bob= ' Morgan <rlmorgan@washington.edu> wrote:

I am hoping to find some ceramic bowls or other kinds of ceramic kitchenwar= es as souvenirs. =A0Any suggestions for shops? =A0I've been to Sogo and= didn't find anything that grabbed me.

Thanks,

=A0- RL "Bob"

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--001636e0b8549e715d0478251058-- From falk@bbn.com Wed Nov 11 20:35:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8F23A682E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:35:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.447 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.447 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.152, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KMyXB4BqLabm for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.bbn.com (smtp.bbn.com [128.33.1.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E4C3A67A6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.89.252.25] (helo=host-24-83.meeting.ietf.org) by smtp.bbn.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8RPR-0001l5-C7; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:35:50 -0500 Message-ID: <4AFB90A4.60303@bbn.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:35:48 +0900 From: Aaron Falk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephane Bortzmeyer References: <8A44BD40-CC91-4328-8C16-92EABA8DA372@fugue.com> <20091112042534.GA6801@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> In-Reply-To: <20091112042534.GA6801@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Laundry? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:35:24 -0000 Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:50:17PM +0900, > Ted Lemon wrote > a message of 6 lines which said: > > >> Has anybody had a successful laundry experience thus far? >> > > No problem at the Mitsui Garden Hotel, same day service, reliable > protocol, all data, I mean clothes, acknowledged and echoed back. At the ANA: And individually wrapped, too. And the wrapped clothes were wrapped again. It was a 'festival of packaging'! --aaron From Xiangsong.Cui@huawei.com Wed Nov 11 20:41:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10F43A689C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:41:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.965 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.965 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.175, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, CN_BODY_35=0.339, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_SUB_ENC_GB2312=1.345] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87ronnj3SDlO for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from szxga03-in.huawei.com (unknown [119.145.14.66]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B2E3A6892 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:41:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (szxga03-in [172.24.2.9]) by szxga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KSZ00JLTBPWW4@szxga03-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:41:57 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.17.1.31]) by szxga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KSZ009OPBPWNI@szxga03-in.huawei.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:41:56 +0800 (CST) Received: from [172.24.1.6] (Forwarded-For: [133.93.17.112]) by szxmc03-in.huawei.com (mshttpd); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:41:56 +0800 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:41:56 +0800 From: cuixiangsong 00111037 In-reply-to: To: RL 'Bob' Morgan Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006) Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_wi3oG15loTpLPXKGjk1FzQ)" Content-language: zh-CN X-Accept-Language: zh-CN Priority: normal References: Cc: IETF 76 <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: [76attendees] =?gb2312?b?u9i4tCA6IGNlcmFtaWNzLCBraXRjaGVud2FyZT8=?= X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:41:49 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_wi3oG15loTpLPXKGjk1FzQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Hi=2C I know a place maybe you can get what you want=2E Depart ANA hotel=2C go to the west (or turn right when you exist hotel)=2C go ahead about 30 meters=2C meet a big cross=2C then turn right=2C alone the main street=2C to north=2C about 50 meters from the cross=2C and in the west of the street=2C there is a store=2C in the B1 flore=2C there are something maybe you will= like=2E (1 flore is a book store and other things) Good luck! Xiangsong Best Regards ----- =D4=AD=D3=CA=BC=FE ----- =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB=3A RL =27Bob=27 Morgan =3Crlmorgan=40washington=2Eedu=3E= =C8=D5=C6=DA=3A =D0=C7=C6=DA=CB=C4=2C =CA=AE=D2=BB=D4=C2 12=C8=D5=2C 2009= =CF=C2=CE=E712=3A24 =D6=F7=CC=E2=3A =5B76attendees=5D ceramics=2C kitchenware=3F =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB=3A IETF 76 =3C76attendees=40ietf=2Eorg=3E =3E = =3E I am hoping to find some ceramic bowls or other kinds of ceramic = =3E kitchenwares as souvenirs=2E Any suggestions for shops=3F I=27ve be= en = =3E to Sogo = =3E and didn=27t find anything that grabbed me=2E =3E = =3E Thanks=2C =3E = =3E - RL =22Bob=22 =3E = =3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F =3E 76attendees mailing list =3E 76attendees=40ietf=2Eorg =3E https=3A//www=2Eietf=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/76attendees =3E --Boundary_(ID_wi3oG15loTpLPXKGjk1FzQ) Content-type: text/x-vcard; name=c00111037.vcf; charset=gb2312 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: attachment; filename=c00111037.vcf Content-description: Card for cuixiangsong 00111037 begin:vcard n:Cui;Xiangsong fn:Xiangsong Cui version:2.1 email;internet:Xiangsong.Cui@huawei.com end:vcard --Boundary_(ID_wi3oG15loTpLPXKGjk1FzQ)-- From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Wed Nov 11 20:42:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6793A689C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:42:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.16 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.16 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.886, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t8ddm+iCCw9i for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.sri.com (newmail.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB08A3A6892 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:42:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [133.93.17.164] ([unknown] [133.93.17.164]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KSZ00BHEBRK0XF0@mail.sri.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:42:58 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <4AFB9252.6070704@sri.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:42:58 +0900 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: Randall Gellens References: <0AFD1B67B949784DA087CDA9F0DD4AD901283030@mdmxm03.ciena.com> In-reply-to: Cc: "Ong, Lyndon" , 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] tea X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:42:31 -0000 is that true for sake and Japanese whiskey too? I'm looking for a shop On 11/12/2009 9:30 AM, Randall Gellens wrote: > At 6:56 PM -0500 11/11/09, Lyndon Ong wrote: > >> Just wondering, any suggestion on where to get good Japanese tea >> here besides the department stores or groceries? > > Personally, I'm pleased with the selection of tea and tea shops in the > SOGO department store. There are four or five shops selling a wide > range of teas. > -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com From scott.brim@gmail.com Wed Nov 11 20:43:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF2A3A689C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:43:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FGuMcwPj530G for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:42:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gx0-f228.google.com (mail-gx0-f228.google.com [209.85.217.228]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FC43A6892 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:42:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so1728474gxk.9 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:43:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Oc6ZN7Pzia/llg36LZ9bROGDLgnL6q386P5pNj4uyPE=; b=dQoMxLSBVR/wagIzH3fILKr38g5eyNEzFImN75oU2vSeJANffrins8TS/OrZTDXyaI QKnDKdh6hH4KMPLUMsZWKuQTIp6rt7UYPEHzbWhRrp7Vt5eUBZiyYxjNfL5pNBmraxr0 CKwPaIhSdZMl1Xv2qK8f2PrA6euCofCl5YALM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=XzM7g3LjbwP1ROEyLCyrE1qrcolFlmZp7dicgCSVxSZ+vKHx3ZjaFrJDFXniupwaUs /BsDrwHCUoTYUtv4UULHYRclmCzFSnY73ab00peUlSfjLB/qNqTf9XqQ/j/IK3Jt1ksb GZt83nAtG9pP3P+x4G5+cy1nMWJSEXBj2aEAg= Received: by 10.150.35.3 with SMTP id i3mr4379937ybi.128.1258001005689; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:43:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-128-34.meeting.ietf.org (host-128-34.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.128.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm77510gxk.11.2009.11.11.20.43.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:43:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFB9269.2040502@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:43:21 +0900 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RL 'Bob' Morgan References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: IETF 76 <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] ceramics, kitchenware? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:43:00 -0000 RL 'Bob' Morgan allegedly wrote on 11/12/2009 1:24 PM: > > I am hoping to find some ceramic bowls or other kinds of ceramic > kitchenwares as souvenirs. Any suggestions for shops? I've been to > Sogo and didn't find anything that grabbed me. You could ask for Oh-ryoh-ko bowls. They are the traditional 3- 4- or 5-bowl sets, often with a cloth for carrying them and accessories. You wouldn't find them in a department store. From randy@psg.com Wed Nov 11 20:46:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6EE3A6B97 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:46:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AzTw+ZaL2+EP for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:46:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C563A6892 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:46:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-40-47.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.40.47]) by ran.psg.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1N8RZh-000AKJ-OF; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:46:25 +0000 Message-ID: <4AFB931F.4010107@psg.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:46:23 +0900 From: Randy Bush User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Brim References: <4AFB9269.2040502@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4AFB9269.2040502@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: IETF 76 <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] ceramics, kitchenware? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:46:02 -0000 > You could ask for Oh-ryoh-ko bowls. They are the traditional 3- 4- or > 5-bowl sets, four bowl sets? color me sceptical. randy From olaf@NLnetLabs.nl Wed Nov 11 20:47:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B8828C1BA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:47:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.648 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.648 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.048, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XWGSKpQqM9jz for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:47:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from open.nlnetlabs.nl (open.nlnetlabs.nl [IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1::1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F72128C1B2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:47:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::112:226:bbff:fe0e:7cc7] ([IPv6:2001:dfb:0:112:226:bbff:fe0e:7cc7]) (authenticated bits=0) by open.nlnetlabs.nl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAC4mGg1068854 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:48:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olaf@NLnetLabs.nl) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Olaf Kolkman In-Reply-To: <4AFB931F.4010107@psg.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:48:16 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <4AFB9269.2040502@gmail.com> <4AFB931F.4010107@psg.com> To: Randy Bush X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (open.nlnetlabs.nl [IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1::1]); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:48:22 +0100 (CET) Cc: IETF 76 <76attendees@ietf.org>, Scott Brim Subject: Re: [76attendees] ceramics, kitchenware? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:47:56 -0000 On Nov 12, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> You could ask for Oh-ryoh-ko bowls. They are the traditional 3- 4- or >> 5-bowl sets, > > four bowl sets? color me sceptical. Why? I mean why 3 or 5 and not 4 (which I understand your scepsis to be) --Olaf From ford@isoc.org Wed Nov 11 20:49:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36AD43A6B8F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:49:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.265 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.265 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SqAm8SpvmRDM for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:49:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp111.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp111.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.111]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D26F3A67FA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:49:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay1.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay1.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 225B4127881E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:50:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay1.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: ford-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id AFA881278809 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:50:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4AFB940F.5000109@isoc.org> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:50:23 +0900 From: Matthew Ford User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20090915 Thunderbird/3.0b4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <4AFB9269.2040502@gmail.com> <4AFB931F.4010107@psg.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] ceramics, kitchenware? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:49:58 -0000 On 12/11/2009 13:48, Olaf Kolkman wrote: > > On Nov 12, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > >>> You could ask for Oh-ryoh-ko bowls. They are the traditional 3- 4- or >>> 5-bowl sets, >> >> four bowl sets? color me sceptical. > > > Why? I mean why 3 or 5 and not 4 (which I understand your scepsis to be) http://www.amusingfacts.com/ContentChannels.php?action=show_member_post&ownerID=&post_id=7273 Mat From rlmorgan@washington.edu Wed Nov 11 20:50:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB063A67FD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:50:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tKxnrLhRIL1O for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:50:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DB43A67FA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:50:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.14.3+UW09.06/8.14.3+UW09.09) with ESMTP id nAC4p6r4032218 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:51:06 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from host-24-167.meeting.ietf.org (host-24-167.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.167]) (authenticated authid=rlmorgan) by smtp.washington.edu (8.14.3+UW09.06/8.14.3+UW09.05) with ESMTP id nAC4p2Z3021888 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:51:05 -0800 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:51:02 +0900 (JST) From: "RL 'Bob' Morgan" X-X-Sender: rlmorgan@perf.cac.washington.edu To: Olaf Kolkman In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4AFB9269.2040502@gmail.com> <4AFB931F.4010107@psg.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LFD 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.12.43626 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report=' BODY_SIZE_1000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_100_199 0, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, FROM_EDU_TLD 0, SMALL_BODY 0, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ 0, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: Scott Brim , IETF 76 <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] ceramics, kitchenware? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:50:39 -0000 > Why? I mean why 3 or 5 and not 4 (which I understand your scepsis to be) 4, as I understand it, is considered unlucky because "shi" is 4 and "shi" is also "death". - RL "Bob" From Jeff.Hodges@KingsMountain.com Wed Nov 11 20:51:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59763A6947 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:51:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.265 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.265 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jHWcRV9HlnkN for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:51:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from outbound-mail-125.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-125.bluehost.com [67.222.38.25]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 68F663A689F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:51:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30975 invoked by uid 0); 12 Nov 2009 04:52:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box514.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.114) by outboundproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2009 04:52:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kingsmountain.com; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=HZDAt9mkzIYu94DSE9x5Hiwex1jDD6J+muorReI9lTkzfIeYf8jIfJ3GU6RGa5xiYN74zD+0h8Dh33f/W1hodg0zPGOEnJCJpQfZ+AsoZj+L76Ef3VdxWHg2teXZJ/4s; Received: from host-25-121.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.25.121]) by box514.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Rf5-0007w7-Sz for 76attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:52:00 -0700 Message-ID: <4AFB946C.9060302@KingsMountain.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:51:56 -0800 From: =JeffH User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {11025:box514.bluehost.com:kingsmou:kingsmountain.com} {sentby:smtp auth 133.93.25.121 authed with jeff.hodges+kingsmountain.com} Subject: [76attendees] wrt JTB desk -- where is it? 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X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:52:22 -0000 --00504502ad107f588a0478255008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All the same in most Asian countries. '4=E5=9B=9B' usually sounds like 'dea= th=E6=AD=BB'. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Matthew Ford wrote: > On 12/11/2009 13:48, Olaf Kolkman wrote: > >> >> On Nov 12, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> >> You could ask for Oh-ryoh-ko bowls. They are the traditional 3- 4- or >>>> 5-bowl sets, >>>> >>> >>> four bowl sets? color me sceptical. >>> >> >> >> Why? I mean why 3 or 5 and not 4 (which I understand your scepsis to be) >> > > > http://www.amusingfacts.com/ContentChannels.php?action=3Dshow_member_post= &ownerID=3D&post_id=3D7273 > > Mat > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > --=20 Regards, DY http://cnu.kr/~dykim --00504502ad107f588a0478255008 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All the same in most Asian countries. '4=E5=9B=9B' usually sounds l= ike 'death=E6=AD=BB'.

On Thu, Nov= 12, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Matthew Ford <ford@isoc.org> wrote:
On 12/11/2009 13:48, Olaf Kolkman wrote:

On Nov 12, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Randy Bush wrote:

You could ask for Oh-ryoh-ko bowls. =C2=A0They are the traditional 3- 4- or=
5-bowl sets,

four bowl sets? =C2=A0color me sceptical.


Why? I mean why 3 or 5 and not 4 (which I understand your scepsis to be)

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Mat

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Regards, -- Yuji Sekiya > Dear IET76 Attendees, > This is Yuji Sekiya, IETF NOC. > > Someone's laptop announces Rogue IPv6 RA on > SSID:ietf network. > > We send fake RAs with routerlifetime=0, so your computer > may not be affected, however, the Rogue RAs are still announced. > > MAC addresses of laptop which announces Rogue RA are > > 00:1b:77:bc:a4:e6 > 00:21:6b:3c:8c:e2 > > Please STOP announcement of Rogue RA !!! > > -- Yuji Sekiya > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From kato@wide.ad.jp Wed Nov 11 22:46:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD70B3A6B3F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:46:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uD5N3s1fEunI for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8693A67A3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (host-32-22.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.32.22]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C9E6F7FE5B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:46:33 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB20FE7D1D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:45:44 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:45:44 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091112.154544.158695192.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Akira Kato X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Network Tear Down X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:46:11 -0000 Folks, The IETF network installed in Hiroshima will be gradually tear down as follows: - 4F Camellia : after the "Afternoon Session I" today (Nov 12th), the network and power is being removed. - In all IETF hotels, including ANA Crowne Plaza, the guest room network will be restored in 11am through 2pm tomorrow, and the guest rooms will be back into the regular style in RFC1918 through NAT and no IPv6 connectivity. - One of the terminal rooms, "Wedding Hall Room" will be closed at noon tomorrow (Nov 13th Friday). Please use the other terminal room "Matsu Room" in the afternoon. - All of the meeting rooms and the other terminal room will be closed at 3:30pm, 15min after the sessions are terminated. - The wireless AP in 4F Foyer will be shutdown at noon tomorrow, APs in 1F/22F restaurants will be shutdown at around 2pm, and the APs in 1F Lobby Lounge, and APs in 3F Foyer will be shutdown at 5pm. No AP will remain operational after 5pm Friday afternoon. -- Akira Kato From oran@cisco.com Wed Nov 11 22:49:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFAC3A6950 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:49:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.56 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.56 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.039, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rt3B6xgQiWdQ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:49:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com (sj-iport-4.cisco.com [171.68.10.86]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1427F3A68E3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:49:20 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-4.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAG8++0qrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbADEIZgIgjGCCwSBa3s X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,726,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="49129278" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2009 06:49:48 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpnasa-965.cisco.com (sjc-vpnasa-965.cisco.com [10.21.107.197]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAC6nmV7008170; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:49:48 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: David R Oran In-Reply-To: <20091112.154544.158695192.kato@wide.ad.jp> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:49:48 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <96750A7E-DAA3-4087-B4D5-8FD0BD7E37A0@cisco.com> References: <20091112.154544.158695192.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: Akira Kato X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:49:20 -0000 When we revert to the hotel network, are we still eligible for free Internet access service, or do we get billed? On Nov 12, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Akira Kato wrote: > Folks, > > The IETF network installed in Hiroshima will be gradually tear down > as follows: > > - 4F Camellia : after the "Afternoon Session I" today (Nov 12th), the > network and power is being removed. > > - In all IETF hotels, including ANA Crowne Plaza, the guest room > network will be restored in 11am through 2pm tomorrow, and the guest > rooms will be back into the regular style in RFC1918 through NAT and > no IPv6 connectivity. > > - One of the terminal rooms, "Wedding Hall Room" will be closed at > noon tomorrow (Nov 13th Friday). Please use the other terminal > room "Matsu Room" in the afternoon. > > - All of the meeting rooms and the other terminal room will be closed > at 3:30pm, 15min after the sessions are terminated. > > - The wireless AP in 4F Foyer will be shutdown at noon tomorrow, APs > in 1F/22F restaurants will be shutdown at around 2pm, and the APs in > 1F Lobby Lounge, and APs in 3F Foyer will be shutdown at 5pm. > > No AP will remain operational after 5pm Friday afternoon. > > -- Akira Kato > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From jinmei@isc.org Wed Nov 11 23:00:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D4B3A6853 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:00:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.667 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.667 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.067, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i+fhjGO2d16k for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:00:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mon.jinmei.org (mon.jinmei.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:36::162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDFF28C107 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:00:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from jmb.jinmei.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:112:217:f2ff:fee0:a91f]) by mon.jinmei.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9108933C3A; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:00:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:00:46 +0900 Message-ID: From: JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= To: Go Kawaguchi In-Reply-To: <4AFA649E.8040807@gmail.com> References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> <4AF653C9.9050001@gmail.com> <4AF68E5E.9060103@ee.ucl.ac.uk> <4AFA4A65.7020707@gmail.com> <4AFA649E.8040807@gmail.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/22.1 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal / Soccer on Wed Thu meet up at 19:10 or 19:40 X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:00:22 -0000 At Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:15:42 +0900, Go Kawaguchi wrote: > > I just noticed that the reservation for *Thursday* evening changed to > > 19:30-21:00 (from 20:30-21:30 that I reserved). I'm fine with the > > revised schedule, but do you know how this changed? Did you update > > the original reservation, or was that canceled due to my error (e.g., > > forgetting to confirm the reservation, etc), or something else? > > I made a phone to the Futsal office and telled a staff we wanna change > tomorrow night from 19:30 to 21:00 and added tonight from 19:30 to 21:00. I see, thanks. > > Anyway, now the schedule is consolidated, can I assume you'll organize > > the event tomorrow evening, too? (I'm happy to help you if you need > > it.) > > Yes, tommorow too! > Then, Tonight is a little bit worried about gathering player enough. I hope yesterday's session went well. Now, what about tonight? The same plan? At least according to Doodle we'll still have 20-ish participants, and so some "sophisticated" coordination may be necessary... --- JINMEI, Tatuya Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. From agmalis@gmail.com Wed Nov 11 23:02:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D013A6B4B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:02:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.144, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bg8Lzj3zuEFt for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:02:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f183.google.com (mail-yw0-f183.google.com [209.85.211.183]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566443A6B05 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:02:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywh13 with SMTP id 13so2226600ywh.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:03:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7tk4F7hb2voImkgMxyBF9YJWp7DRI5+wZkeoNsTh1lo=; b=sX4+g+LUjnxrlx/6Z1owA4u6/DvKVn0Z4w2lw5hmBGZJJ2LTcAsqyDZttSmI2I7rKQ jQ8Vm1YfAHk2V53T3nhZgqn3kJ1Slq1dMVBjhS08PDOBvybw8URBky7o4t/4q4MNrPca iZB+brscPeHjW2WlgfSOOhN/7KWYLOTZHWrUw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NCWDq4dfAxAIs37+yqF5S/WpNiSMZoEuLMIcyeggXglWJ5r+hpOD0D6WrlJBGuUdQB xyejMJCyCjLNDYgGWEa/UoN7FcqHDpvvrqxXhDlKb7P0uAXtVkar5r8nsjh7/KAqXBCa 5HKLYAGayQ3J/ETSb8/W33d13vCYDSUiiow7g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.133.29 with SMTP id k29mr2242840ann.98.1258009386290; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:03:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091112.154544.158695192.kato@wide.ad.jp> References: <20091112.154544.158695192.kato@wide.ad.jp> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:02:45 +0900 Message-ID: <8c99930d0911112302x3a0dd765lc7cca3c642910177@mail.gmail.com> To: Akira Kato Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:02:42 -0000 Thanks for an awesome job on the network this week! On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Akira Kato wrote: > Folks, > > The IETF network installed in Hiroshima will be gradually tear down > as follows: > > - 4F Camellia : after the "Afternoon Session I" today (Nov 12th), the > =A0network and power is being removed. > > - In all IETF hotels, including ANA Crowne Plaza, the guest room > =A0network will be restored in 11am through 2pm tomorrow, and the guest > =A0rooms will be back into the regular style in RFC1918 through NAT and > =A0no IPv6 connectivity. > > - One of the terminal rooms, "Wedding Hall Room" will be closed at > =A0noon tomorrow (Nov 13th Friday). Please use the other terminal > =A0room "Matsu Room" in the afternoon. > > - All of the meeting rooms and the other terminal room will be closed > =A0at 3:30pm, 15min after the sessions are terminated. > > - The wireless AP in 4F Foyer will be shutdown at noon tomorrow, APs > =A0in 1F/22F restaurants will be shutdown at around 2pm, and the APs in > =A01F Lobby Lounge, and APs in 3F Foyer will be shutdown at 5pm. > > No AP will remain operational after 5pm Friday afternoon. > > -- Akira Kato > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From leifj@sunet.se Wed Nov 11 23:05:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551783A6950 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:05:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.518 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.518 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.081, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o4ar26YZxaUV for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:05:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from backup-server.nordu.net (backup-server.nordu.net [193.10.252.66]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3153A6919 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:05:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [133.93.19.61] (host-19-61.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.19.61]) (authenticated bits=0) by backup-server.nordu.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAC75xKZ015849 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:06:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AFBB3DA.3050307@sunet.se> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:06:02 +0100 From: Leif Johansson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andrew G. Malis" References: <20091112.154544.158695192.kato@wide.ad.jp> <8c99930d0911112302x3a0dd765lc7cca3c642910177@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8c99930d0911112302x3a0dd765lc7cca3c642910177@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:05:40 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andrew G. Malis wrote: > Thanks for an awesome job on the network this week! +1 the network was absolutely totally 100% problem-free for me this time. Kudos! Cheers Leif -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkr7s9oACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZncfZQCdE8EXMs08Ili9mIS74nh4EZY/ 3XAAoLBskKUOyDebBkUryYzRfunbfG9K =sLgl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From roehricht@tm.uka.de Wed Nov 11 23:07:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBF33A69DD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:07:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.949 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.949 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4D8io2HKJYSI for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:07:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de (iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de [141.3.10.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6AD23A6919 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:07:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-32-52.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.32.52]) by iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de with esmtpsa port 25 id 1N8TmR-00057H-Tu; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:07:49 +0100 Message-ID: <4AFBB439.30304@tm.uka.de> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:07:37 +0900 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWFydGluIFLDtmhyaWNodA==?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?SklOTUVJIFRhdHV5YSAvIOelnuaYjumBlOWTiQ==?= References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> <4AF653C9.9050001@gmail.com> <4AF68E5E.9060103@ee.ucl.ac.uk> <4AFA4A65.7020707@gmail.com> <4AFA649E.8040807@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-ATIS-AV: ClamAV (iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de) X-ATIS-AV: Kaspersky (iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de) X-ATIS-Timestamp: iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de esmtpsa 1258009669.414273000 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal / Soccer on Wed Thu meet up at 19:10 or 19:40 X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:07:26 -0000 On 12.11.2009 16:00 JINMEI Tatuya / 神明é”哉 wrote: > At Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:15:42 +0900, > Go Kawaguchi wrote: >> Yes, tommorow too! >> Then, Tonight is a little bit worried about gathering player enough. > > I hope yesterday's session went well. Now, what about tonight? The > same plan? At least according to Doodle we'll still have 20-ish > participants, and so some "sophisticated" coordination may be > necessary... I would be interested whether some guys meet at the ANA/Sunroute/Mitsui hotel to get to the court. However, due to a re-scheduled BarBOF meeting tonight I am not sure if I can make it to the futsal event. :-/ Martin From dykim6@gmail.com Wed Nov 11 23:14:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FCF3A6A27 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:14:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.643 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.643 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.333, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cDtIZxU-1Xvh for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:14:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0EBE3A6853 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:14:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by pwi6 with SMTP id 6so1299970pwi.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:15:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=6PbYaG5ZriwY2zpTBnkt9BgHj0y8th5Mfi6hNxXTqN4=; b=tnyAOLPnKlinCl0lZsvt7zWD8Ca2G1THPrkKQ5yInbpi9hJYM5Wf4jSu2WhhIQ0fiq whzBbBGpib6iHrs4qTYhGLaJLq7LoyrfCqqefZ0qWQCq2A3P/Tx68rRLfnDjnuxDvG34 z53s6dwzBaGz+zvOgP8DikWL31xohlQ1v2qe0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=vuWezxo1dZMbf2MjPFiFoN46QCiY2xSk7vkxHLg0MWiWg2IuagAMgf76Ud7KOg6SUW zxpzo4mkGdC2r7Fwm1zCL2vKWBi/xYCT92le9++m3a33csDjLparldMB4kw8t2JFwYga 3QDQ8/BTofBwD7mkLzNMHpUbxTEv1kk4Q3J+E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: dykim6@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.4.11 with SMTP id 11mr296566wfd.86.1258010124153; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:15:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AFBB3DA.3050307@sunet.se> References: <20091112.154544.158695192.kato@wide.ad.jp> <8c99930d0911112302x3a0dd765lc7cca3c642910177@mail.gmail.com> <4AFBB3DA.3050307@sunet.se> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:15:24 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fbf1564fa7e93c9e Message-ID: <3938a04d0911112315s1371d6c2qcd429a5c26904a68@mail.gmail.com> From: Dae Young KIM To: Leif Johansson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502b86992f5880478274ec6 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:14:58 -0000 --00504502b86992f5880478274ec6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 An excellent job by the JP NOC team! On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Leif Johansson wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Andrew G. Malis wrote: > > Thanks for an awesome job on the network this week! > > +1 the network was absolutely totally 100% problem-free for > me this time. Kudos! > > Cheers Leif > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAkr7s9oACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZncfZQCdE8EXMs08Ili9mIS74nh4EZY/ > 3XAAoLBskKUOyDebBkUryYzRfunbfG9K > =sLgl > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > -- Regards, DY http://cnu.kr/~dykim --00504502b86992f5880478274ec6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable An excellent job by the JP NOC team!

On T= hu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Leif Johansson <leifj@sunet.se> wrote:
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--00504502b86992f5880478274ec6-- From kato@wide.ad.jp Wed Nov 11 23:16:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086A83A69DD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:16:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cngq-zLYVMdJ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:16:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35D23A69B3 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:16:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:32:21f:3bff:fec6:73bd]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 132AE7FE32; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:17:21 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80509E7D1D; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:17:20 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:17:20 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091112.161720.227862536.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: oran@cisco.com From: Akira Kato In-Reply-To: <96750A7E-DAA3-4087-B4D5-8FD0BD7E37A0@cisco.com> References: <20091112.154544.158695192.kato@wide.ad.jp> <96750A7E-DAA3-4087-B4D5-8FD0BD7E37A0@cisco.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:16:54 -0000 > When we revert to the hotel network, are we still eligible for free > Internet access service, or do we get billed? All IETF hotels but Rihga Royal provide in-room Internet access for free. So you don't have to worry about it. Rihga Royal Hotel usually charges 1,050 JPY per night, however, if you booked your accomodation through JTB for the IETF meeting, you won't be charged even if you click the screen to approve to pay it. But you may want to check the bill in detail upon check out. -- Akira Kato From bob.hinden@gmail.com Wed Nov 11 23:21:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF913A6853 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:21:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gso7dOwoof5W for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:21:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF003A67DF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:21:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so505800eyd.51 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:21:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=Sz4GWagwgzO7GJVM2Zx5fnAQx2JpMgoHkr5Y/N/Bd4w=; b=GcLvafj4L8LrQERyLNp9YceuKg0xKmjVDTI8tG7+VgrBPjQNRAKqw1hR9pEClQiDYY JY2+mYto7K1XtVkEICl1jv4RNP7XT08eCMlfPnJqhwNvdO1YUQITL7wJ3xj/JPdn/k9K TnRjfGEfqZbBfjdKywAm6Dy/ODD/xT8u6xYIo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=Rhifp/qyWi/Rr22T2kWPRH2dEkudUHCiV5s5XkBWvuE9qMPvpPcw062z6V/pR8i+hj ODD9Q1y9TbWnexebswC4+J37PPt7BjGS2RkF5FTCTBFziaTFJRV8OlsDqU2GFyt+J7W9 HHCVE+AXj6IkRiyai6k//e8LkvVd7hdTy7PL0= Received: by 10.213.0.152 with SMTP id 24mr2315569ebb.52.1258010504877; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:21:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-40-108.meeting.ietf.org (host-40-108.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.40.108]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm2472000eyz.11.2009.11.11.23.21.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:21:44 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: <4AFBB3DA.3050307@sunet.se> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:21:38 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <20091112.154544.158695192.kato@wide.ad.jp> <8c99930d0911112302x3a0dd765lc7cca3c642910177@mail.gmail.com> <4AFBB3DA.3050307@sunet.se> To: Akira Kato X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:21:23 -0000 On Nov 12, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Leif Johansson wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Andrew G. Malis wrote: >> Thanks for an awesome job on the network this week! > > +1 the network was absolutely totally 100% problem-free for > me this time. Kudos! +1 Excellent network! Bob > > Cheers Leif > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAkr7s9oACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZncfZQCdE8EXMs08Ili9mIS74nh4EZY/ > 3XAAoLBskKUOyDebBkUryYzRfunbfG9K > =sLgl > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From yaojk@cnnic.cn Wed Nov 11 23:26:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189833A67DF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:26:06 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER, Duplicate header field: "Message-ID" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.708 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.708 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.751, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.803] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QjJPztDEW3kj for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:26:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from cnnic.cn (smtp.cnnic.cn [159.226.7.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B32533A6853 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:26:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (eyou send program); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:26:32 +0800 Message-ID: <458010792.23202@cnnic.cn> X-EYOUMAIL-SMTPAUTH: yaojk@cnnic.cn Received: from unknown (HELO whatisfuture) (127.0.0.1) by 127.0.0.1 with SMTP; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:26:32 +0800 Message-ID: <031201ca6369$744e87e0$01125d85@whatisfuture> From: "YAO Jiankang" To: "Bob Hinden" , "Akira Kato" References: <20091112.154544.158695192.kato@wide.ad.jp><8c99930d0911112302x3a0dd765lc7cca3c642910177@mail.gmail.com><4AFBB3DA.3050307@sunet.se> <458010518.26541@cnnic.cn> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:26:29 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:26:06 -0000 DQotLS0tLSBPcmlnaW5hbCBNZXNzYWdlIC0tLS0tIA0KRnJvbTogIkJvYiBIaW5kZW4iIDxib2Iu aGluZGVuQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4NClRvOiAiQWtpcmEgS2F0byIgPGthdG9Ad2lkZS5hZC5qcD4NCkNj OiA8NzZhdHRlbmRlZXNAaWV0Zi5vcmc+DQpTZW50OiBUaHVyc2RheSwgTm92ZW1iZXIgMTIsIDIw MDkgMzoyMSBQTQ0KU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFs3NmF0dGVuZGVlc10gTmV0d29yayBUZWFyIERvd24N Cg0KDQo+IA0KPiBPbiBOb3YgMTIsIDIwMDksIGF0IDQ6MDYgUE0sIExlaWYgSm9oYW5zc29uIHdy b3RlOg0KPiANCj4+IC0tLS0tQkVHSU4gUEdQIFNJR05FRCBNRVNTQUdFLS0tLS0NCj4+IEhhc2g6 IFNIQTENCj4+DQo+PiBBbmRyZXcgRy4gTWFsaXMgd3JvdGU6DQo+Pj4gVGhhbmtzIGZvciBhbiBh d2Vzb21lIGpvYiBvbiB0aGUgbmV0d29yayB0aGlzIHdlZWshDQo+Pg0KPj4gKzEgdGhlIG5ldHdv cmsgd2FzIGFic29sdXRlbHkgdG90YWxseSAxMDAlIHByb2JsZW0tZnJlZSBmb3INCj4+IG1lIHRo aXMgdGltZS4gS3Vkb3MhDQo+IA0KPiArMQ0KPiANCj4gRXhjZWxsZW50IG5ldHdvcmshDQoNCisx DQoNCg0KPiANCj4gQm9iDQo+IA0KPiANCj4+DQo+PiBDaGVlcnMgTGVpZg0KPj4gLS0tLS1CRUdJ TiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0NCj4+IFZlcnNpb246IEdudVBHIHYxLjQuOSAoR05VL0xpbnV4 KQ0KPj4gQ29tbWVudDogVXNpbmcgR251UEcgd2l0aCBNb3ppbGxhIC0gaHR0cDovL2VuaWdtYWls Lm1vemRldi5vcmcNCj4+DQo+PiBpRVlFQVJFQ0FBWUZBa3I3czlvQUNna1E4Sng4RnRiTVpuY2Za UUNkRThFWE1zMDhJbGk5bUlTNzRuaDRFWlkvDQo+PiAzWEFBb0xCc2tLVU95RGViQmtVcnlZelJm dW5iZkc5Sw0KPj4gPXNMZ2wNCj4+IC0tLS0tRU5EIFBHUCBTSUdOQVRVUkUtLS0tLQ0KPj4gX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18NCj4+IDc2YXR0ZW5k ZWVzIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdA0KPj4gNzZhdHRlbmRlZXNAaWV0Zi5vcmcNCj4+IGh0dHBzOi8vd3d3 LmlldGYub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vNzZhdHRlbmRlZXMNCj4gDQo+IF9fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fDQo+IDc2YXR0ZW5kZWVzIG1haWxp bmcgbGlzdA0KPiA3NmF0dGVuZGVlc0BpZXRmLm9yZw0KPiBodHRwczovL3d3dy5pZXRmLm9yZy9t YWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvLzc2YXR0ZW5kZWVz From antti.makela@tkk.fi Wed Nov 11 23:29:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040B23A6853 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; 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Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:29:29 +0200 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:29:29 +0200 (EET) From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Antti_M=E4kel=E4?= To: Thierry Ernst In-Reply-To: <22249_1257753114_ZZ0KSU00HA30I3EP.00_4AF7C92D.7050208@inria.fr> Message-ID: References: <22249_1257753114_ZZ0KSU00HA30I3EP.00_4AF7C92D.7050208@inria.fr> User-Agent: Alpine 1.99 (SOC 1136 2008-08-12) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-TKK-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.1.2-hutcc at katosiko.hut.fi Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Cotton Yukatas X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:29:11 -0000 On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Thierry Ernst wrote: > More certainly, I'm pretty sure you will find a bunch of them in Miyajima > (nearby island with red temple gate in the sea) were they is a full street > selling Japanese crafts and souvenirs (information about Miyajima is in your > booklet). This tip paid off today. If you do the same, I found that one of the shops had a "50% off" on yukatas and kimonos, and gave me (relatively) good stuff for a paltry 2000 yen. Most of the stuff was in 5000-7000 range. -- Antti. From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Wed Nov 11 23:38:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6040D3A691B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:38:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.27 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.27 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.776, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vA7ZSUFTwNTm for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:38:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.sri.com (srimail.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA613A67DF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:38:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [133.93.17.164] ([unknown] [133.93.17.164]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KSZ0028WJW8PI60@mail.sri.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:38:34 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <4AFBBB7B.4020107@sri.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:38:35 +0900 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] sake and japanese whiskey X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:38:07 -0000 anyone have any luck finding a wine and spirits type shop where a variety of sake and whiskey can seen? all I find is a few cheap brands in 7-11s etc. and have not seen any specialty stores. -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com From turners@ieca.com Wed Nov 11 23:39:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBEF3A69B3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:39:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.712 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.712 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.603, BAYES_05=-1.11, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lEd-FU8lyftt for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:39:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp106.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp106.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.254]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CBDB53A67DF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:39:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 95200 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2009 07:39:52 -0000 Received: from host-24-125.meeting.ietf.org (turners@133.93.24.125 with plain) by smtp106.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 23:39:51 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: ZrP3VLSswBDL75pF8ymZHDSu9B.vcMfDPgLJ X-YMail-OSG: Lm5_xVgVM1mgLSkq4ppuSH_lRXsZ3VKnbqYHr1wJ4.Siz0ckCO9hM6pXywwyAUaxqJ490KGw_a0NNzhwgcxF.X1skxEC3EPMwlhCDopnkPfS5Vjz1BxChMb_mieKzMIAdQmKG_uPB8HoerhHAO9.lMK9kd0l8lhgXvehLhKjLVokd6PGTJDnlTNvA0kRsdHyWGy662jJ6RLZtQwf8QlMGqD1Ir8pIGCAbjIiJqsRvRjr_BN4kZ1.qvbSukDFKOm0WiHjY2slZzQZ2KVhinEHYN.g6kaJg38igz5MCIvw5Js6IFW9z8O19w-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4AFBBBC5.3020404@ieca.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:39:49 +0900 From: Sean Turner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Jankiewicz References: <4AFBBB7B.4020107@sri.com> In-Reply-To: <4AFBBB7B.4020107@sri.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] sake and japanese whiskey X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:39:26 -0000 7-11 has booze Ed Jankiewicz wrote: > anyone have any luck finding a wine and spirits type shop where a > variety of sake and whiskey can seen? all I find is a few cheap brands > in 7-11s etc. and have not seen any specialty stores. > From jim@daedelus.com Wed Nov 11 23:41:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7ED3A69B3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:41:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k6HwBzHFZUwR for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:41:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from uillean.fuaim.com (uillean.fuaim.com [206.197.161.140]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A003A691B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:41:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from imladris.daedelus.com (imladris.daedelus.com [206.197.161.143]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uillean.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4AD8840C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:42:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::24:225:ff:fe4b:ab29] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:24:225:ff:fe4b:ab29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by imladris.daedelus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BEAF13083B6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:42:00 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) From: Jim Martin In-Reply-To: <4AFBB3DA.3050307@sunet.se> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:41:57 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6732F6E7-09F1-4546-91DC-B4ED13A9819F@daedelus.com> References: <20091112.154544.158695192.kato@wide.ad.jp> <8c99930d0911112302x3a0dd765lc7cca3c642910177@mail.gmail.com> <4AFBB3DA.3050307@sunet.se> To: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:41:32 -0000 Agreed! Kato-san and team did an excellent job! Particularly, = going way above and beyond to connect all the overflow hotels! Thanks = to all! - Jim On Nov 12, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Leif Johansson wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 > Andrew G. Malis wrote: >> Thanks for an awesome job on the network this week! >=20 > +1 the network was absolutely totally 100% problem-free for > me this time. Kudos! >=20 > Cheers Leif > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >=20 > iEYEARECAAYFAkr7s9oACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZncfZQCdE8EXMs08Ili9mIS74nh4EZY/ > 3XAAoLBskKUOyDebBkUryYzRfunbfG9K > =3DsLgl > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From jean@iij.ad.jp Wed Nov 11 23:44:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33A93A6919 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:44:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EAR5HA77NLLu for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:44:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from omgo.iij.ad.jp (mo00.iij.ad.jp [202.232.30.145]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDD73A68FA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:44:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1;a=rsa-sha256;c=relaxed/simple;d=iij.ad.jp;h=Message-ID: Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; i=jean@iij.ad.jp; s=omgo1; t=1258011913; x=1259221513; bh=LJOn5uwKYP1GmMVr1nvAkwNChO6b+0+xrtJcQ0k1WGo=; b=FOqsmVrDuLedbBSUV8NQ427w0n8 vpLGgWTDVrqaD4/z3jI9rkzMjCIp/PTYr7dZvZPTWYhWAUgKh/BYdYPWhdM4FOCd7+3YEnO7fFAm5 F2WgRCheQfAAiTdQ8mnmCysbuFoEjWPFuuXMgH6I+HD5gpzBWV/9xcaeu59aA2ffYUk=; Received: by omgo.iij.ad.jp (mo00) id nAC7jDnK026568; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:45:13 +0900 Message-ID: <4AFBBBD5.70806@iij.ad.jp> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:40:05 +0900 From: Jean Lorchat User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Go Kawaguchi References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> <4AF653C9.9050001@gmail.com> <4AF68E5E.9060103@ee.ucl.ac.uk> <4AF692CE.30809@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF692CE.30809@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: =?UTF-8?B?Sm/Do28gVGF2ZWlyYSBBcmHDumpv?= , 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal / Soccer / Futbal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:30-21:00 changed! X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:44:57 -0000 Hi, I went to yesterday's session and it a lot of fun ! Thanks to jinmei-san and kawaguchi-san for organizing the event. In addition to the printed map, I showed the access directions to the taxi driver and it proved very useful. They can be obtained on the japanese website, I just showed him the webpage on my phone. Maybe some local person can manage to print them in addition to the map ? Otherwise, they are the last three lines in japanese characters on this webpage : http://www.i-fut.com/facilities/access.html They go like (if your mailer supports UTF-8 and japanese characters) : 市街方é¢ã‹ã‚‰ãŠè¶Šã—ã®å ´åˆï¼š 黄金山通りをä»ä¿æ–¹é¢ã¸ã€åºƒå³¶å¥³å­å¤§å­¦ã‚’å³æŠ˜ã—コジマã•ã‚“ã®æ‰‹å‰ã‚’左折〠海岸通りã«çªã当ãŸã‚Šå·¦æŠ˜ã—直進1分 Jean Go Kawaguchi wrote: > Hi > Joao > > Yes, all stuff are avairable to rent. > such as shoes, shirt pants, don't warry about it. > > But 19:30 is a litte bit late to get toghther. > So if you come to ANA lobby unitl 19:10, I can go there with you, > I you arrive late, please print up my home made site. > http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ > > and the map to show it to a taxi driver. > http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ietf/map_futsal.jpg > > That marked "FUTSAL" is the court to play. > > Or, > I'm just at wellcom party in ANA hotel. > Plese ask a parson who is side by spreading T-shirt on the ground until > 19:00. > Then at 19:10, I'll be at ANA lobby to get a taxi. > > GO > > From: João Taveira Araújo > Date: Sun Nov 08 2009 18:24:46 GMT+0900 > >> I've just arrived but I'll give it a go. I'm assuming we can rent >> trainers at the futsal place? If so, I'll be at ANA lobby at 19:30. >> >> Cheers. > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Wed Nov 11 23:47:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191FD3A6919 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:47:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.357 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.357 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.689, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dVrilJOtzH9q for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:47:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.sri.com (newmail.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776D13A68FA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:47:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [133.93.17.164] ([unknown] [133.93.17.164]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KSZ0022MKBMPI90@mail.sri.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:47:47 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <4AFBBDA5.1090401@sri.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:47:49 +0900 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: Sean Turner References: <4AFBBB7B.4020107@sri.com> <4AFBBBC5.3020404@ieca.com> In-reply-to: <4AFBBBC5.3020404@ieca.com> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] sake and japanese whiskey X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:47:20 -0000 did you mean: 7-11 has booze. 7-11 has booze? or 7-11 has booze! On 11/12/2009 4:39 PM, Sean Turner wrote: > 7-11 has booze > > Ed Jankiewicz wrote: >> anyone have any luck finding a wine and spirits type shop where a >> variety of sake and whiskey can seen? all I find is a few cheap >> brands in 7-11s etc. and have not seen any specialty stores. >> > -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com From jinmei@isc.org Wed Nov 11 23:54:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936BB3A6A5A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:54:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.66 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.66 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KpIjvLTQt80V for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:54:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mon.jinmei.org (mon.jinmei.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:36::162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFA73A69D5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:54:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from jmb.jinmei.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:112:217:f2ff:fee0:a91f]) by mon.jinmei.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3845C33C37; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:55:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:55:16 +0900 Message-ID: From: JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= To: Go Kawaguchi In-Reply-To: <4AFBB56F.1030306@gmail.com> References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> <4AF653C9.9050001@gmail.com> <4AF68E5E.9060103@ee.ucl.ac.uk> <4AFA4A65.7020707@gmail.com> <4AFA649E.8040807@gmail.com> <4AFBB56F.1030306@gmail.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/22.1 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal / Soccer on Wed Thu meet up at 19:10 or 19:40 X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:54:54 -0000 (copying 76attendees, as this is a general logistics matter) At Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:12:47 +0900, Go Kawaguchi wrote: > > I hope yesterday's session went well. Now, what about tonight? The > > same plan? At least according to Doodle we'll still have 20-ish > > participants, and so some "sophisticated" coordination may be > > necessary... > > Yesterday was so good and excited, ten freaks got toghether playing. That's good to know. And the same plan for tonight? That is, do we meet up at the ANA hotel lobby at 7:10pm or 7:40pm? How will we go to the court? By sharing cabs? If we have two separate groups (7:10 and 7:40), who will lead each group? Or is this basically a "manage it by yourself" thing? --- JINMEI, Tatuya Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. From turners@ieca.com Wed Nov 11 23:57:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCEE93A6919 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:57:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D9OmhA2uWU-N for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:57:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp103.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp103.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.238]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 199F63A68FA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:57:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 55247 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2009 07:58:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host-24-125.meeting.ietf.org) (turners@133.93.24.125 with plain) by smtp103.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2009 07:58:12 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qPTWNAeswBAtDTSn9GKlmmL3C90ke7grn_5n9To- X-YMail-OSG: Wz8TtacVM1kG5ZOJY1lNTdklP94PVRztAcTrCgfIg8rzp4NBmMfCw51l_QkVQQr6Xp4DiFhGVuey36Ek9Y4upsHuWXgEzR0LVBNe9JgcJy5y.hxijXlffCdLFhE9Tu357f4yPIRFLiPhBqZJnQWJjse48W79VK8xwwsxEhDuStNNR2uzolGlXfPbaVINnN2Gxp8mnmNEqWyCljwdMIW_HQqSsW_15jyCF.IaVmA2zlexbwfZJmGBfjVQ8FKPZm_pdPytJGUdLQ5cpkH5hgP6UzvrsKNlbcsPHj3CLrH2B1TWVFyLfyzsWSM- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4AFBC012.8090100@ieca.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:58:10 +0900 From: Sean Turner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Jankiewicz References: <4AFBBB7B.4020107@sri.com> <4AFBBBC5.3020404@ieca.com> <4AFBBDA5.1090401@sri.com> In-Reply-To: <4AFBBDA5.1090401@sri.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] sake and japanese whiskey X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:57:46 -0000 Sorry. I bought beer and whiskey there for the Smart Grid Bar BOF. They also have wine. spt Ed Jankiewicz wrote: > did you mean: > > 7-11 has booze. > 7-11 has booze? > or > 7-11 has booze! > > > On 11/12/2009 4:39 PM, Sean Turner wrote: >> 7-11 has booze >> >> Ed Jankiewicz wrote: >>> anyone have any luck finding a wine and spirits type shop where a >>> variety of sake and whiskey can seen? all I find is a few cheap >>> brands in 7-11s etc. and have not seen any specialty stores. >>> >> > From jordi.palet@consulintel.es Thu Nov 12 00:00:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3FF3A68FA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:00:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.000, BAYES_50=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m4WXYZLZGEBi for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:00:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from consulintel.es (mail.consulintel.es [213.172.48.142]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4413A6405 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:00:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nowsp; d=consulintel.es; s=MDaemon; t=1258016371; x=1258621171; i=jordi.palet@consulintel.es; q=dns; h=DomainKey-Signature:Received:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To: Message-ID:Thread-Topic:Thread-Index:Mime-version:Content-type: Content-transfer-encoding:Reply-To; b=TCuYL3KxM854QWNIBujG0KGAhp2 fQWehBY8LRTCPFS11WEM4MhwhNijT+l2v75Zw/VXpznyAjkFKoMn7eNKF5Gn/m0m kA8NFd+Zktk2y9syUi4IbJjR0hxPL3O0E0mLK1gIgduvap3E5duwsI9UFolUB2Q6 RAMaFZ1z06x/CKU8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=MDaemon; d=consulintel.es; c=simple; q=dns; h=from:message-id; b=e0HjW1o25+m50MMA4CGhffLdOWIADCo8R2p061i3FgW5tH/AIeK4X7oUsJnT8ApcVCR/LGt2AAmDvAYj0dREpf5XU/kX0y/E5YiuqDE7peiwSsSpopn6ZlsB7fBq3bqt5Tzc6uOBSybejpuIjYkKQTZjnyblJxsZI4SRq6J+ILk=; Received: from [133.93.17.6] by consulintel.es (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.5.R) with ESMTP id md50003458364.msg for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:59:29 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:00:54 +0900 From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ To: <76attendees@ietf.org> Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Info about Computer and Network EXPO'09 venue Thread-Index: AcpjbkIZceXURf5lQtqzV2Vo2QkeFw== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: jordi.palet@consulintel.es X-HashCash: 1:20:091112:76attendees@ietf.org::E2aMWLPaxIclPRTG:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000279g X-MDRemoteIP: 133.93.17.6 X-Return-Path: jordi.palet@consulintel.es X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Spam-Processed: consulintel.es, Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:59:30 +0100 X-MDAV-Processed: consulintel.es, Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:59:31 +0100 Subject: [76attendees] Info about Computer and Network EXPO'09 venue X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: jordi.palet@consulintel.es List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:00:41 -0000 I'm planning to visit this exhibition tomorrow on the way to catch my JR, but I will prefer to go with my baggage, and then directly to the JR station, instead of coming back to the hotel. 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From yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp Thu Nov 12 00:02:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E3828C153 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:02:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KQusXafKPaU5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:02:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from send11.jprs.co.jp (send11.jprs.co.jp [202.11.17.110]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250FF28C143 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:02:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from sendsms11.jprs.co.jp (sendsms11.jprs.co.jp [202.11.17.111]) by send11.jprs.co.jp (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nAC82jA4002646; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:02:45 +0900 (JST) Received: from sendsms11.jprs.co.jp (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by sendsms11.jprs.co.jp (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 4E40D3566; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:02:45 +0900 (JST) X-AuditID: ca0b116f-0000000400004758-39-4afbc124384a Received: from NOTE233 (bxx0114.jprs.co.jp [172.18.4.53]) by sendsms11.jprs.co.jp (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id C64303565; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:02:44 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:02:36 +0900 From: Yoshiro YONEYA To: Ed Jankiewicz Message-Id: <20091112170236.c8d4ed9f.yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <4AFBBB7B.4020107@sri.com> References: <4AFBBB7B.4020107@sri.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] sake and japanese whiskey X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:02:19 -0000 You can find liquor shop at Sogo department store. -- Yoshiro YONEYA On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:38:35 +0900 Ed Jankiewicz wrote: > anyone have any luck finding a wine and spirits type shop where a > variety of sake and whiskey can seen? all I find is a few cheap brands > in 7-11s etc. and have not seen any specialty stores. > > -- > Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International > Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research > Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch > 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From tony@att.com Thu Nov 12 00:07:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DAE3A6A58 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:07:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.803 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.803 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.496, BAYES_00=-2.599, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l6+XYwbvOF2G for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:07:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail167.messagelabs.com (mail167.messagelabs.com [216.82.253.179]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D41A3A6A40 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:07:18 -0800 (PST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: tony@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-167.messagelabs.com!1258013265!25005970!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.1.3; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.112.25] Received: (qmail 4929 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2009 08:07:46 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp3.sbc.com (HELO tlph064.enaf.dadc.sbc.com) (144.160.112.25) by server-12.tower-167.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Nov 2009 08:07:46 -0000 Received: from enaf.dadc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tlph064.enaf.dadc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAC87iog014183 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:07:45 -0600 Received: from klpd017.kcdc.att.com (klpd017.kcdc.att.com [135.188.40.86]) by tlph064.enaf.dadc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAC87hZj014137 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:07:43 -0600 Received: from kcdc.att.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by klpd017.kcdc.att.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAC87hVS009588 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:07:43 -0600 Received: from maillennium.att.com (dns.maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by klpd017.kcdc.att.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAC87aGF009535 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:07:37 -0600 Received: from [135.70.233.4] (vpn-135-70-233-4.vpn.east.att.com[135.70.233.4]) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with ESMTP id <20091112080735gw10014qkbe> (Authid: tony); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:07:36 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [135.70.233.4] Message-ID: <4AFBC246.6080103@att.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:07:34 -0500 From: Tony Hansen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <20091112.154544.158695192.kato@wide.ad.jp> <8c99930d0911112302x3a0dd765lc7cca3c642910177@mail.gmail.com> <4AFBB3DA.3050307@sunet.se> <6732F6E7-09F1-4546-91DC-B4ED13A9819F@daedelus.com> In-Reply-To: <6732F6E7-09F1-4546-91DC-B4ED13A9819F@daedelus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:07:19 -0000 +10 to the NOC Jim Martin wrote: > Agreed! Kato-san and team did an excellent job! Particularly, going way above and beyond to connect all the overflow hotels! Thanks to all! > > - Jim > > On Nov 12, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Leif Johansson wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Andrew G. Malis wrote: >>> Thanks for an awesome job on the network this week! >> +1 the network was absolutely totally 100% problem-free for >> me this time. Kudos! >> >> Cheers Leif >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAkr7s9oACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZncfZQCdE8EXMs08Ili9mIS74nh4EZY/ >> 3XAAoLBskKUOyDebBkUryYzRfunbfG9K >> =sLgl >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From richard.barnes@gmail.com Thu Nov 12 00:27:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5293A6A5A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:27:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cTVkRQDFEfyH for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:27:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com (mail-fx0-f215.google.com [209.85.220.215]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DB63A6A58 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:27:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so1940264fxm.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:27:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yo2bM81TnTtZrTRN3+eyFpKiNWlO7WFog44YmYga+rg=; b=G8vze7ZSh2TZkJfu4Lx7DwreGiX6jLn08Hq12b/4ahHxDtpdubXyI9HJx787HAH4CU CPwwLc6w3t4o/grkRpvJu2C7o61McYrSVK+Vj2JyaC4IVhuqhDqlIAkbDp+v1mT/rqN2 nxe4BmTRCpf0VZtQgLc1wytA0N46XfyasAdRE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZB68lmrPoaJE5vjhh0+Wj+zPqWkMWF9L3t4ITccCQTQBRVL/PsazSVcBXKk3X6I37v Nbm2TnylCPEUlBMZ5Jkh4ESq45F6XH4Z5SrtAKnhgJsniCudarWffJRaCkJqSWvNkQvM RVE/PlTM6msE9KGHWwYaml/C+Uha+YT/sP7vk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.32.204 with SMTP id e12mr2820342bkd.51.1258014450146; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:27:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AFBC246.6080103@att.com> References: <20091112.154544.158695192.kato@wide.ad.jp> <8c99930d0911112302x3a0dd765lc7cca3c642910177@mail.gmail.com> <4AFBB3DA.3050307@sunet.se> <6732F6E7-09F1-4546-91DC-B4ED13A9819F@daedelus.com> <4AFBC246.6080103@att.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:27:30 +0900 Message-ID: <88ac5c710911120027u4de15f18ld5063df7a60ec7ed@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Barnes To: Tony Hansen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:27:06 -0000 This NOC goes to 11. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Tony Hansen wrote: > +10 to the NOC > > Jim Martin wrote: >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Agreed! Kato-san and team did an excellent job! Particula= rly, going >> way above and beyond to connect all the overflow hotels! =A0Thanks to al= l! >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- Jim >> >> On Nov 12, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Leif Johansson wrote: >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> Andrew G. Malis wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks for an awesome job on the network this week! >>> >>> +1 the network was absolutely totally 100% problem-free for >>> me this time. Kudos! >>> >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Cheers Leif >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >>> >>> iEYEARECAAYFAkr7s9oACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZncfZQCdE8EXMs08Ili9mIS74nh4EZY/ >>> 3XAAoLBskKUOyDebBkUryYzRfunbfG9K >>> =3DsLgl >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 76attendees mailing list >>> 76attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From spencer@wonderhamster.org Thu Nov 12 00:30:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8778E28C153 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:30:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.281 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.281 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.172, BAYES_05=-1.11, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x-FxBob7b4KY for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F4A28C107 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from S73602b (host-24-135.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.135]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LmJb8-1MYc1R3tBK-00a2oh; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:30:31 -0500 Message-ID: <25A3DB4CC2F5453F86DF87CAEFBC5CAA@china.huawei.com> From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: "Jim Martin" , <76attendees@ietf.org> References: <20091112.154544.158695192.kato@wide.ad.jp><8c99930d0911112302x3a0dd765lc7cca3c642910177@mail.gmail.com><4AFBB3DA.3050307@sunet.se> <6732F6E7-09F1-4546-91DC-B4ED13A9819F@daedelus.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:30:10 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/d8vA+z0G/QX4wOVJO+yIuALXqicC0FlTGIXy hnpU5DtQlIpCCK3IAwLp7C0zQxuKexF1I/waWmSW/GfIPowfpT Fc4xHAL4QE72iFjF0/cC8jGSbA6fmSSumTZ+ffmFaE= Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:30:03 -0000 Speaking as a resident of an overflow hotel... My impression was that the network at the Royal Rihga was especially grim when I checked in - I was honestly staying offline at the hotel on Saturday because stuff was so broken. You have NO IDEA how pleasantly surprised I was to see the IETF wireless network pop up on Saturday night (intermittently, but steadily on Sunday morning). Thank you SO much for this. Spencer > Agreed! Kato-san and team did an excellent job! Particularly, going way > above and beyond to connect all the overflow hotels! Thanks to all! > > - Jim From Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk Thu Nov 12 00:46:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EBF73A6B95 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:46:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.590, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R16gRo09cXWs for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:46:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.nominet.org.uk (mx3.nominet.org.uk [213.248.199.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070E23A6A40 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:46:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: s=main.dk.nominet.selector; d=nominet.org.uk; c=nofws; q=dns; h=X-IronPort-AV:Received:In-Reply-To:References:To:Subject: MIME-Version:X-Mailer:Message-ID:From:Date:X-MIMETrack: Content-Type; b=xKz3HzsbZoeB204K75saTzHCLBktEjP5xUnAV9q70DpWpTKfjS/HaEOH BuH2nsEDv69mdGXpA+13CFGuxfMhGxjcX1MMOXQq920Odiq3tuPPlybC7 Qs/Hb/FrS9FDJB3; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nominet.org.uk; i=Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk; q=dns/txt; s=main.dkim.nominet.selector; t=1258015628; x=1289551628; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk|Subject:=20Re:=20[76at tendees]=20ceramics,=20kitchenware?|Date:=20Thu,=2012=20N ov=202009=2017:46:56=20+0900|Message-ID:=20|To:=20IETF=2076=20<76attendees@ietf.org> |MIME-Version:=201.0|In-Reply-To:=20<3938a04d0911112034j3 fa6aaa3x113a8a320346786c@mail.gmail.com>|References:=20=20<3938a04d0911112034j3fa6aaa3x113a8a320346786c@mail.g mail.com>; bh=eNZtDhgAWBRES3JTQj8GcwVbfVdFmJjjcbs2EG8aGi0=; b=hD/q+MqJdXd+fxD7j1rvFPyGuG9hB4HTkq0m7VgU1/WD2dicf8NVNuGp DB3X3PDnrDWoI0WZfTsruti/Y5PYmUBmlT+DQP93YYiqNY+qYvvUsLhT5 ChExtzytN6bVwhq; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,726,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="19323585" Received: from notes1.nominet.org.uk ([213.248.197.128]) by mx3.nominet.org.uk with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2009 08:46:57 +0000 In-Reply-To: <3938a04d0911112034j3fa6aaa3x113a8a320346786c@mail.gmail.com> References: <3938a04d0911112034j3fa6aaa3x113a8a320346786c@mail.gmail.com> To: IETF 76 <76attendees@ietf.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.5 December 05, 2008 Message-ID: From: Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:46:56 +0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on notes1/Nominet(Release 7.0.1FP1 | May 25, 2006) at 12/11/2009 08:46:57 AM, Serialize complete at 12/11/2009 08:46:57 AM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00303E3C4925766C_=" Subject: Re: [76attendees] ceramics, kitchenware? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:46:40 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00303E3C4925766C_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Out of the hotel gate, turn left, turn left again, follow the street > about four block down, you'll hit a roofed shopping street, right at > the right corner, Adidas shoes shop, 3rd floor, selling stationaries > and quite a lot of porcelains and ceramics. The roofed shopping street is Honduri St. This same shop also stocks Origami paper in many varieties. The book shop on the North side of Honduri St about 80m W of the Adidas shop (near McDonalds) also has instruction books :) Ray --=_alternative 00303E3C4925766C_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
> Out of the hotel gate, turn left, turn left again, follow the street
> about four block down, you'll hit a roofed shopping street, right at
> the right corner, Adidas shoes shop, 3rd floor, selling stationaries
> and quite a lot of porcelains and ceramics.
The roofed shopping street is Honduri St.

This same shop also stocks Origami paper in many varieties.

The book shop on the North side of Honduri St about 80m W of the Adidas shop (near McDonalds) also has instruction books :)

Ray
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+0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:59:11 +0900 From: Hiroyuki INOUE To: 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <20091110171610.5326.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> References: <20091110171610.5326.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> Message-Id: <20091112175902.6FE5.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.51.05 [ja] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [76attendees] Any volunteer who carries about and uses a interpreter-service mobile phone X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:58:51 -0000 I'll resend the message: === additional information of interpreter service mobile phone: You can use the interpreter service mobile phone at the places where the icons are placed on this map. Interpretation is available between English and Japanese. http://www.mix-net.co.jp/maptest/index.html Thank you. On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:16:13 +0900 Hiroyuki INOUE wrote: > I'm forwarding message from a bureau of Hiroshima city: > > It seems very convenient service to visit a shop or restrant, > when the clerk cannot understand/speak English at all (usually in Japan!). > > If you will apply the mobile phone or have any questions, > please contact to kikaku@mix-net.co.jp . > > ====== > Any volunteer who carries about and uses a interpreter-service mobile phone > > Details > > Invite Applications for the Interpreter Service > Using an Exclusive Mobile Phone > (ICT Policy Division, ICT Policy Department, The City of Hiroshima) > > During "the 76th IETF Meeting in Hiroshima", the city provides IETF attendees > with the interpreter service using an exclusive mobile phone as the > municipal "Practical ICT Experiment". > Interpretation is available between English and Japanese. > This service is available from 8:30am to 8:30pm > > The following is a brief outline of the recruit process. > - The recruit is schedule to take place until November 11th at noon (Japanese Time). > - The applications will be accepted to the first 10 arrivals. > - Those accepted are noticed by email in reference to the delivery > of the equipment and how to use it. > > Points to notice > > - You are requested to fill in a questionnaire which measures your > degree of satisfaction after the service. > - The service is free of charge but you are asked to pay for the actual > expense relating to the loss or damage of equipment due to your fault. > > Your personal information is strictly confined to the use of pertinent > contacts with us in this experimental service and will be deleted > right after expiry. > > To apply > If you would like to employ this service, please send the following > information to the contract company of this project, Mix Co., Ltd. > by email being attached it to the text. > > Subject: Application for the interpreter service using a mobile phone > Name: > Email: > Telephone: > Hotel: > > --- > Mix Co., Ltd (contract company for the construction and operation business of ICT Interpreter Service System) > Honkawa Riverside Bld. 2F 2-6-3, Honkawa-cho, Naka-ku, Hiroshima City > TEL: 082-292-3652 Fax:082-292-9177 > E-mail: kikaku@mix-net.co.jp > Person Responsible: Kitagawa, Saito, Shinkawa > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees -- Hiroyuki INOUE Graduate School of Information Sciences, Hiroshima City University From fred@cisco.com Thu Nov 12 00:59:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A493A6899 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:59:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.187 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.187 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.412, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qqeUjt+aLq6r for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com (sj-iport-4.cisco.com [171.68.10.86]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8DE28C10F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:59:10 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-4.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-Files: IMG_1993.jpg : 54549 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhAFAOdc+0pAaHte/2dsb2JhbACBTpcqq0eYB4Q8BIJn X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,726,1249257600"; d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,145";a="49136688" Received: from hkg-core-1.cisco.com ([64.104.123.94]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2009 08:59:38 +0000 Received: from host-24-88.meeting.ietf.org (tky-vpn-client-231-53.cisco.com [10.70.231.53]) by hkg-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAC8xarN009282; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:59:36 GMT Message-Id: <3B68E341-D669-4C75-BC13-96D7D4179E90@cisco.com> From: Fred Baker To: Dan Wing In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-71-536302143 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:59:36 +0900 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: IETF 76 <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] IESG Ferrari parked in front of the ANA? 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(192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 35sm1230649yxh.33.2009.11.12.01.05.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:05:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFBCFB3.5060703@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:04:51 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jean Lorchat References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> <4AF653C9.9050001@gmail.com> <4AF68E5E.9060103@ee.ucl.ac.uk> <4AF692CE.30809@gmail.com> <4AFBBBD5.70806@iij.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: <4AFBBBD5.70806@iij.ad.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal / Soccer / Futbal on Sun Wed Thu at 19:30-21:00 changed! X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:04:51 -0000 Hi Jean From: Jean Lorchat Date: Thu Nov 12 2009 16:40:05 GMT+0900 > Hi, > > I went to yesterday's session and it a lot of fun ! Thanks to jinmei-san > and kawaguchi-san for organizing the event. > > In addition to the printed map, I showed the access directions to the > taxi driver and it proved very useful. They can be obtained on the > japanese website, I just showed him the webpage on my phone. Maybe some > local person can manage to print them in addition to the map ? > > Otherwise, they are the last three lines in japanese characters on this > webpage : http://www.i-fut.com/facilities/access.html > > They go like (if your mailer supports UTF-8 and japanese characters) : or http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ietf/ Thank you for your support. Go > Go Kawaguchi wrote: >> Hi >> Joao >> >> Yes, all stuff are avairable to rent. >> such as shoes, shirt pants, don't warry about it. >> >> But 19:30 is a litte bit late to get toghther. >> So if you come to ANA lobby unitl 19:10, I can go there with you, >> I you arrive late, please print up my home made site. >> http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ >> >> and the map to show it to a taxi driver. >> http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ietf/map_futsal.jpg >> >> That marked "FUTSAL" is the court to play. From ole@cisco.com Thu Nov 12 01:09:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B27C3A6872 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:09:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.577 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.577 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HpbO7vkZn2FV for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:09:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com (sj-iport-2.cisco.com [171.71.176.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E963A6936 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:09:40 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,726,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="223522405" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2009 09:10:09 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAC9A8Uv007730; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:10:08 GMT Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:09:26 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Fred Baker In-Reply-To: <3B68E341-D669-4C75-BC13-96D7D4179E90@cisco.com> Message-ID: References: <3B68E341-D669-4C75-BC13-96D7D4179E90@cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: IETF 76 <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] IESG Ferrari parked in front of the ANA? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:09:41 -0000 Only when the IAOC let's them: http://www.yikes.com/~ole/store/IAOC-copter.JPG Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Fred Baker wrote: > Heavens no. They ride in black helicopters. > > > From gg55go@gmail.com Thu Nov 12 01:22:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6B428C0DC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:22:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.377 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.377 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.222, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MNOAGhWr+9kU for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:22:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f192.google.com (mail-yx0-f192.google.com [209.85.210.192]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5AD028C0D7 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:22:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so2096698yxe.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:23:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yatYf9Rs4Y88oj7dWluIXMNqCqQxgDYkWMDGHKjb9IA=; b=fdBTTpKZrJ8ckgo05Gtyl2ALt8weo3nd0NQYyhqB9d6V3WXWLFUn/NwCNgNK7LE42d eSmfVbp74EsPjPbDYiW4GIGTdTyrchIfz3hwmH9a4U0dc0FShKdJm51RsnN9iaeWbcCe AYrW7QlJ0lIDg7Zp04B1TqIXroI5mDWeqo5O8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Y8aZ9zVbJQ5SPL3XGSPUBCUK8oqYojQmiWIpp9vIqckjSUd6JyCtCEmcO/xQgGA8Q6 wEqodDHhn+92RPghSuzWOo2aGoWiqvkaUKTLkXwgySX9iTrgfFKiNn4B1XPBwElQiBhZ OI4TF+7JfBoCwOA0gqdSqnztkoKaOxwrNLspc= Received: by 10.101.200.32 with SMTP id c32mr2275165anq.94.1258017796504; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:23:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.25? (192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 15sm819285yxh.4.2009.11.12.01.23.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:23:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFBD3FF.3010008@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:23:11 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jordi.palet@consulintel.es References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Info about Computer and Network EXPO'09 venue X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:22:53 -0000 Hi Jordi I'm not sure about lockers but you can email the office to ask. See. http://www.hia.or.jp/expo/access/en_index.html Don't forget tomorrow will be done until 16:00. See also http://www.hia.or.jp/expo/index_en.html From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Date: Thu Nov 12 2009 17:00:54 GMT+0900 > I'm planning to visit this exhibition tomorrow on the way to catch my JR, > but I will prefer to go with my baggage, and then directly to the JR > station, instead of coming back to the hotel. > > Anyone of the locals, or host team can tell me if there are some kind of > lockers at the Hiroshima Industrial Hall ? > > Regards, > Jordi From gg55go@gmail.com Thu Nov 12 01:29:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E533A3A6927 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:29:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.386 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.386 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.213, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C-Ku0phdRxvo for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:29:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f192.google.com (mail-yx0-f192.google.com [209.85.210.192]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106DE3A6822 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so2100508yxe.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:30:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=X5nXuUyuT0PMn0bKoNLXR0I2f1wRr1WaM9u8tDf0gI4=; b=a9WK9Fn8s03g+vz/FQcDk0tZXU3W7b5A/quIBDWJm0IgKkbKs3D2DRC0GCWg/7kRQm kUnaxJUkBNBVcbBAjkhz3Tm9Q+yvy/On5zSh7i4nGtKSEyZtCDFzg5S2HlI5OInGX0L4 DuvlORSvguBogI3OvyHnnO8k8Rhb8ferMaWck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HdItqN1c/fKFyW2zW6xVctCg5g+EfGwpqVeLdNHd6zryTFPtMZhYwmmh0dLrEYLUkI kq5PGozb1KoTpLA3QNfeu4ZVKofLpQYTG+zCouh9Ee8GPfyaKZ75sejUcz4iDK9fQs8e lWN/KvFS9fNCTy0443whTH5fa6SWpls0LzbpY= Received: by 10.101.170.11 with SMTP id x11mr2252814ano.109.1258018192644; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:29:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.25? (192.222.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp [43.244.222.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm1234161yxg.64.2009.11.12.01.29.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:29:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFBD58C.5050102@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:29:48 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JINMEI Tatuya References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> <4AF653C9.9050001@gmail.com> <4AF68E5E.9060103@ee.ucl.ac.uk> <4AFA4A65.7020707@gmail.com> <4AFA649E.8040807@gmail.com> <4AFBB56F.1030306@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal / Soccer on Wed Thu meet up at 19:10 or 19:40 X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:29:44 -0000 Jinmei-san From: JINMEI Tatuya Date: Thu Nov 12 2009 16:55:16 GMT+0900 > (copying 76attendees, as this is a general logistics matter) > > ... And the same plan for tonight? That is, do we > meet up at the ANA hotel lobby at 7:10pm or 7:40pm? > > How will we go to the court? By sharing cabs? If we have two > separate groups (7:10 and 7:40), who will lead each group? Or is this > basically a "manage it by yourself" thing? I'm gonna be at ANA lobby at 7:10 and 7:40 with the map to tell a taxi driver how to get the court. http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ietf/map_futsal.jpg And it's better every soccer freaks confirm the situation by http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ietf/ Go From hiromi@inetcore.com Thu Nov 12 01:31:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDCF3A67F6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:31:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.818 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.818 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, HOST_EQ_NE_JP=2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8x+j7Npo9rn0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from inc.inetcore.com (p0245a2.tokyff01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [121.2.69.162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521633A6B90 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::16:21b:63ff:fec9:f412] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:21b:63ff:fec9:f412]) by inc.inetcore.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4A5E62CE342 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:31:22 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> From: Ruri Hiromi To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:31:21 +0900 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [76attendees] realtime scripting... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:31:25 -0000 This is very helpful. Thanks! ------------------------------- Ruri Hiromi Intec NetCore, Inc. / Keio university hiromi@inetcore.com From dykim6@gmail.com Thu Nov 12 01:34:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E633A67F6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:34:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.671 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.671 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.305, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 990uQ6+StJMw for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:34:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1D63A6875 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:34:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by pwi6 with SMTP id 6so1359067pwi.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:34:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=UTB8l4PmY1AY3YX1XWy0yDBysNkku5S7Lx/dy9CE+rM=; b=srVM4jxbMjhoEpFxXA8J9ZBpPH2N52WvHrtHXCGT6bTqElyxi9Dh0nnKHoftTg5nHt Y45vb0cED5EfYOLJlV+4qwuuRyBh4uXwyz+PmimL/1vYd5WSP4fNhX21GHq0rsAx3Xrg X7ryF+45vzzab7sWs34UmOMYESZdlRnLWMRBU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=gY03YFDxddH9tUQofiVIkBdi5ErxiijaPXUUmd7tKGxljhcduwoXEGR9UJPFJaqDwn C5qIjnF4Zi4xYB7Xn5eAHo/kWiLBjEoOBnTbMFIGqdtRnJhsUepx4puBvkhJbG6FHGAr Y6DgIWPJp2x3Ofz2lF6sU+k7DoSDlX6y09W+c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: dykim6@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.59.16 with SMTP id h16mr313430wfa.161.1258018485521; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:34:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> References: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:34:45 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b1745417248bbb73 Message-ID: <3938a04d0911120134w72a17516q8c2126f633a39715@mail.gmail.com> From: Dae Young KIM To: Ruri Hiromi Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502af59f34e730478294032 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:34:20 -0000 --00504502af59f34e730478294032 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Who or what is doing this? Fantastic. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Ruri Hiromi wrote: > This is very helpful. Thanks! > > ------------------------------- > Ruri Hiromi > Intec NetCore, Inc. / Keio university > hiromi@inetcore.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > -- Regards, DY http://cnu.kr/~dykim --00504502af59f34e730478294032 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Who or what is doing this? Fantastic.

On = Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Ruri Hiromi <hiromi@inetcore.com> wrote:
This is very helpful. Thanks!

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Intec NetCore, Inc. / Keio university
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--00504502af59f34e730478294032-- From rpelletier@isoc.org Thu Nov 12 01:35:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C043A6A6A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:35:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.082 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.082 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.183, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yd8I4Y-6T9+P for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:35:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp141.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp141.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.141]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110503A6A58 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:35:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay4.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay4.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C430110CBF66; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:35:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay4.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 3729110CBF60; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:35:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: From: Ray Pelletier To: Ruri Hiromi In-Reply-To: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:35:56 -0500 References: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:35:30 -0000 On Nov 12, 2009, at 4:31 AM, Ruri Hiromi wrote: > This is very helpful. Thanks! Do others see value? And why? How is it helpful? Ray IAD > > ------------------------------- > Ruri Hiromi > Intec NetCore, Inc. / Keio university > hiromi@inetcore.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From rpelletier@isoc.org Thu Nov 12 01:36:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FDE3A6A58 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:36:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.084 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.084 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.180, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c-5wCyWM4UjL for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:36:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp141.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp141.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.141]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE0C3A6920 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:36:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay4.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay4.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id ECED310CBF61; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:36:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay4.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id EE07C10CBF60; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:36:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <768B9059-FC06-4FB0-B136-B274D98A3128@isoc.org> From: Ray Pelletier To: Dae Young KIM In-Reply-To: <3938a04d0911120134w72a17516q8c2126f633a39715@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-245-538536020 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:36:50 -0500 References: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> <3938a04d0911120134w72a17516q8c2126f633a39715@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... 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Thanks! > > ------------------------------- > Ruri Hiromi > Intec NetCore, Inc. / Keio university > hiromi@inetcore.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > > -- > Regards, > > DY > http://cnu.kr/~dykim > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees --Apple-Mail-245-538536020 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Nov 12, 2009, = at 4:34 AM, Dae Young KIM wrote:

Who or = what is doing this? Fantastic.

After = discussing with Olaf I arranged for a = transcriptionist.

Ray
IAD

On Thu, Nov = 12, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Ruri Hiromi <hiromi@inetcore.com> = wrote:
This is very helpful. Thanks!

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Ruri Hiromi
Intec NetCore, Inc. = / Keio university
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= = --Apple-Mail-245-538536020-- From weiler@watson.org Thu Nov 12 01:40:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78623A6BA9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:40:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.506 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.506 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.093, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nyoOiVdWxsjm for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:40:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260C03A6B90 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:40:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAC9evZ2096533; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:40:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from weiler@watson.org) Received: from localhost (weiler@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nAC9ev97096530; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:40:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from weiler@watson.org) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: weiler owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:40:57 -0500 (EST) From: Samuel Weiler To: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:40:57 -0500 (EST) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:40:30 -0000 On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Ray Pelletier wrote: > Do others see value? And why? How is it helpful? I do. I find it easier to assimilate the presentation when I have the option to go back and reread the bit that I wasn't paying enough attention to or which confused me. Accordingly, more lines of history shown on the screen would be better. Will the transcript be made available after? (I hope so.) And is it available via jabber or somewuch for remote participants? (I hope so.) -- Sam From jinmei@isc.org Thu Nov 12 01:40:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E991F3A6B90 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:40:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.655 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.655 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.055, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2jBFBqQzs6Nb for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:40:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mon.jinmei.org (mon.jinmei.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:36::162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0CD3A6AF0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:40:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from jmb.jinmei.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:21b:63ff:fe08:3e64]) by mon.jinmei.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C843533C3A; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:41:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:41:23 +0900 Message-ID: From: JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= To: Go Kawaguchi In-Reply-To: <4AFBD58C.5050102@gmail.com> References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> <4AF653C9.9050001@gmail.com> <4AF68E5E.9060103@ee.ucl.ac.uk> <4AFA4A65.7020707@gmail.com> <4AFA649E.8040807@gmail.com> <4AFBB56F.1030306@gmail.com> <4AFBD58C.5050102@gmail.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/22.1 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal / Soccer on Wed Thu meet up at 19:10 or 19:40 X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:40:58 -0000 At Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:29:48 +0900, Go Kawaguchi wrote: > > How will we go to the court? By sharing cabs? If we have two > > separate groups (7:10 and 7:40), who will lead each group? Or is this > > basically a "manage it by yourself" thing? > > I'm gonna be at ANA lobby at 7:10 and 7:40 with the map to tell a taxi > driver how to get the court. > http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ietf/map_futsal.jpg > > And it's better every soccer freaks confirm the situation by > http://www.eygsys.com/~go/ietf/ I see, thanks. I'll show up at the lobby at 7:10. --- JINMEI, Tatuya Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. From bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr Thu Nov 12 01:43:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1073A6BA9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:43:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.691 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.691 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.091, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pG-pRrgIkeMK for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:43:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bortzmeyer.org (bortzmeyer-1-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f12:420::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D483A6BA8 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:43:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.bortzmeyer.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 5AE3A952C8; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:43:45 +0100 (CET) Received: by horcrux (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 78E76157767; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:43:22 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:43:22 +0900 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: Ray Pelletier Message-ID: <20091112094322.GA18950@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> References: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Transport: UUCP rules X-Operating-System: Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:43:19 -0000 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 04:35:56AM -0500, Ray Pelletier wrote a message of 27 lines which said: > Do others see value? Yes. (I am already used to it in other meetings like RIPE, ICANN or IGF.) > And why? Because english is not my language and it is quite difficult to understand every strange accent you can hear (some speakers are much better than others). > How is it helpful? I'm better at reading english than at listening to it. From dykim6@gmail.com Thu Nov 12 01:47:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103023A6B90 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:47:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.694 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.694 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.282, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A7dyP81I8JPo for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:47:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-px0-f197.google.com (mail-px0-f197.google.com [209.85.216.197]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2D03A6A1B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:47:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by pxi35 with SMTP id 35so1512221pxi.18 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:48:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=6PxcOwoF1A3rsXyQVLaBNmlFPqabJpGZxVwaDKvleq8=; b=Fhm4tZ51TtVoprgIOkjTuQpBe6EFpbAX+e3igZTrQzT9QTR4cOlajP61hTMLh3eV+P QN9HVk7WO7mkvQ2xMf8MwSG4I/WVcgRN5oeJ7ogVJGElHUd+647U2aF0v/b4gsNPldQU SKcn/z9U9IRGT0A9XmbElvnP/FpJJgcPq/d0o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=k3YBBwyUsbk8hx1cAiKh9RIBNZ4doz7GzVxRCKenR3XFXToon7qLKF8o5yJf19OmVM u/5uV4orFN2Od7sz83bB+J9hw3hrGRwIF6F8PfwVctPrig4mw1EuDGVCRIHu8lhOl55f kaYxXXdYgtGmJebMQY+pvtw3FtLAjGAdRe4ZE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: dykim6@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.59.5 with SMTP id h5mr294871wfa.24.1258019298849; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:48:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> <3938a04d0911120134w72a17516q8c2126f633a39715@mail.gmail.com> <768B9059-FC06-4FB0-B136-B274D98A3128@isoc.org> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:48:18 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 90eef559d269c68a Message-ID: <3938a04d0911120148p68ef1f8fufa3507e23b290ba4@mail.gmail.com> From: Dae Young KIM To: Ray Pelletier Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636b2bc986db39e04782971ed Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:47:55 -0000 --001636b2bc986db39e04782971ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:36 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > On Nov 12, 2009, at 4:34 AM, Dae Young KIM wrote: > > Who or what is doing this? Fantastic. > > After discussing with Olaf I arranged for a transcriptionist. > > So, it's a human person. Amazing. And it is of great value for non-native speakers of English, I think. -- Regards, DY http://cnu.kr/~dykim --001636b2bc986db39e04782971ed Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:36 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote:
On Nov 12, 2009, at 4:34 AM, Dae Young KIM wrote:
Who or what = is doing this? Fantastic.
After discussing with Olaf = I arranged for a transcriptionist.

So, it's a h= uman person. Amazing.

And it is of great value for non-native speake= rs of English, I think.
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--001636b2bc986db39e04782971ed-- From Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de Thu Nov 12 01:49:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691E03A69AD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:49:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zPj3QhGM4vjR for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:49:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from tcmail73.telekom.de (tcmail73.telekom.de [217.243.239.135]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185313A68B9 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:49:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from s4de8psaans.blf.telekom.de (HELO s4de8psaans.mitte.t-com.de) ([10.151.180.168]) by tcmail71.telekom.de with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2009 10:49:26 +0100 Received: from S4DE8PSAAQC.mitte.t-com.de ([10.151.229.14]) by s4de8psaans.mitte.t-com.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:49:06 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:49:04 +0100 Message-ID: <643B0A1D1A13AB498304E0BBC8027848018CA2C2@S4DE8PSAAQC.mitte.t-com.de> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] realtime scripting... Thread-Index: Acpje5H3QDT9TloeT7mCZQLD03qTRAAAY8/w References: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> From: To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2009 09:49:06.0049 (UTC) FILETIME=[5FA98F10:01CA637D] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:49:04 -0000 Yeah, Especially in the Q and A session, when there are no helping slides. Thanks for that Regards Dirk Von: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von Ray Pelletier Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. November 2009 10:36 An: Ruri Hiromi Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Betreff: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... On Nov 12, 2009, at 4:31 AM, Ruri Hiromi wrote: > This is very helpful. Thanks! Do others see value? And why? How is it helpful? Ray IAD > > ------------------------------- > Ruri Hiromi > Intec NetCore, Inc. / Keio university > hiromi@inetcore.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From yaojk@cnnic.cn Thu Nov 12 01:50:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8125C3A69AD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:50:38 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER, Duplicate header field: "Message-ID" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.411 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.411 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.035, BAYES_05=-1.11, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.803] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lT5W9PtxYGGw for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:50:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from cnnic.cn (smtp.cnnic.cn [159.226.7.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EB9DB3A68B9 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:50:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (eyou send program); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:51:05 +0800 Message-ID: <458019465.24640@cnnic.cn> X-EYOUMAIL-SMTPAUTH: yaojk@cnnic.cn Received: from unknown (HELO whatisfuture) (127.0.0.1) by 127.0.0.1 with SMTP; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:51:05 +0800 Message-ID: <045101ca637d$a5c7b170$01125d85@whatisfuture> From: "YAO Jiankang" To: "Ray Pelletier" , "Ruri Hiromi" References: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> <458018566.24640@cnnic.cn> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:51:01 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:50:38 -0000 DQotLS0tLSBPcmlnaW5hbCBNZXNzYWdlIC0tLS0tIA0KRnJvbTogIlJheSBQZWxsZXRpZXIiIDxy cGVsbGV0aWVyQGlzb2Mub3JnPg0KVG86ICJSdXJpIEhpcm9taSIgPGhpcm9taUBpbmV0Y29yZS5j b20+DQpDYzogPDc2YXR0ZW5kZWVzQGlldGYub3JnPg0KU2VudDogVGh1cnNkYXksIE5vdmVtYmVy IDEyLCAyMDA5IDU6MzUgUE0NClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBbNzZhdHRlbmRlZXNdIHJlYWx0aW1lIHNj cmlwdGluZy4uLg0KDQoNCj4gDQo+IE9uIE5vdiAxMiwgMjAwOSwgYXQgNDozMSBBTSwgUnVyaSBI aXJvbWkgd3JvdGU6DQo+IA0KPj4gVGhpcyBpcyB2ZXJ5IGhlbHBmdWwuIFRoYW5rcyENCj4gDQo+ IERvIG90aGVycyBzZWUgdmFsdWU/ICBBbmQgd2h5PyAgSG93IGlzIGl0IGhlbHBmdWw/DQoNCg0K KzENCmdvb2QgdHJ5Lg0KDQoNCnZlcnkgdXNlZnVsIGZvciBub24tbmF0aXZlIEVuZ2xpc2ggc3Bl YWtlci4NCg0KdGhpcyBpcyB0aGUgc3ltYm9sIG9mIGludGVybmF0aW9uYWxpemVkIElFVEYuDQoN Cg0KWWFvIEppYW5rYW5nDQpDTk5JQw0KPiANCj4gUmF5DQo+IElBRA0KPiANCj4+DQo+PiAtLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tDQo+PiBSdXJpIEhpcm9taQ0KPj4gSW50ZWMgTmV0 Q29yZSwgSW5jLiAvIEtlaW8gdW5pdmVyc2l0eQ0KPj4gaGlyb21pQGluZXRjb3JlLmNvbQ0KPj4N Cj4+DQo+Pg0KPj4gX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X18NCj4+IDc2YXR0ZW5kZWVzIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdA0KPj4gNzZhdHRlbmRlZXNAaWV0Zi5vcmcN Cj4+IGh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmlldGYub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vNzZhdHRlbmRlZXMNCj4g DQo+IF9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fDQo+IDc2 YXR0ZW5kZWVzIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdA0KPiA3NmF0dGVuZGVlc0BpZXRmLm9yZw0KPiBodHRwczov L3d3dy5pZXRmLm9yZy9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvLzc2YXR0ZW5kZWVz From rpelletier@isoc.org Thu Nov 12 01:52:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7F73A6BB6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:52:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.087 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.087 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.178, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lb1fJPYjg7x9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:52:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp141.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp141.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.141]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FEA3A69AD for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:52:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay4.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay4.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DC3A810CBDE7; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:53:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay4.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id ED2D810CBDFC; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:53:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: From: Ray Pelletier To: Samuel Weiler In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:53:22 -0500 References: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:52:58 -0000 On Nov 12, 2009, at 4:40 AM, Samuel Weiler wrote: > On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Ray Pelletier wrote: > >> Do others see value? And why? How is it helpful? > > I do. I find it easier to assimilate the presentation when I have > the option to go back and reread the bit that I wasn't paying enough > attention to or which confused me. Accordingly, more lines of > history shown on the screen would be better. > > Will the transcript be made available after? Arrangements have been made for the transcript to be available to the IAB immediately after the Plenary. > (I hope so.) And is it available via jabber or somewuch for remote > participants? (I hope so.) Hmmm. we tried this in the past (2+ years ago) and it turns out that was a bit more difficult to accomplish. It was transmitted at first 1 character at a time, then it was in bursts of words not like we see it in the room. There needs to be some coding done. The original effort was contributed by NeuStar. If this experiment has value and is continued, perhaps we could get a volunteer to work on this effort. Ray > > -- Sam From marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca Thu Nov 12 01:58:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D328028C12F for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:58:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PtDgD2Go+MJS for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FA03A680F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:58:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-19-125.meeting.ietf.org (host-19-125.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.19.125]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0365720730; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:58:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4AFBDC5D.9080200@viagenie.ca> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:58:53 +0900 From: Marc Blanchet User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Pelletier References: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:58:50 -0000 Samuel Weiler a écrit : > On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Ray Pelletier wrote: > >> Do others see value? And why? How is it helpful? yes. While tonight, to me, we had very understandable speakers, it happens that some speakers are more difficult to understand. Therefore, the real-time transcript helps one to verify/confirm his understanding. On a note, someone well known in our community speaks super fast and sometimes he speaks at the mic... I would really like to have transcripts when he speaks... I will be at the same time be very impressed by the transcriptionnist to handle his bandwidth... Marc. From hiromi@inetcore.com Thu Nov 12 01:59:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8BA3A6BA8 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:59:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.818 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.818 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, HOST_EQ_NE_JP=2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PunrBMjdHg1X for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from inc.inetcore.com (p0245a2.tokyff01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [121.2.69.162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152813A68B9 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::16:21b:63ff:fec9:f412] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:16:21b:63ff:fec9:f412]) by inc.inetcore.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7C26B2CE3D5; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:59:08 +0900 (JST) From: Ruri Hiromi To: "YAO Jiankang" In-Reply-To: <458019465.24640@cnnic.cn> X-Priority: 3 References: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> <458018566.24640@cnnic.cn> <458019465.24640@cnnic.cn> Message-Id: <80990FCB-07B7-4AA0-87B1-F2A9D64BF2D3@inetcore.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:59:07 +0900 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:59:11 -0000 Because I usually speak Japanese. It is very helpful when I could not catch the words and I can always confirm "to see" with eyes what I heard. On 2009/11/12, at 18:51, YAO Jiankang wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray Pelletier" > To: "Ruri Hiromi" > Cc: <76attendees@ietf.org> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... > > >> >> On Nov 12, 2009, at 4:31 AM, Ruri Hiromi wrote: >> >>> This is very helpful. Thanks! >> >> Do others see value? And why? How is it helpful? > > > +1 > good try. > > > very useful for non-native English speaker. > > this is the symbol of internationalized IETF. > > > Yao Jiankang > CNNIC >> >> Ray >> IAD >> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> Ruri Hiromi >>> Intec NetCore, Inc. / Keio university >>> hiromi@inetcore.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 76attendees mailing list >>> 76attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees ------------------------------- Ruri Hiromi Intec NetCore, Inc. / Keio university hiromi@inetcore.com From wilmer@google.com Thu Nov 12 01:59:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6993A69C1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:59:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.828 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.828 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.149, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Cu-dCrBBiudq for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:59:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out.google.com (smtp-out.google.com [216.239.33.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665E53A68B9 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:59:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from spaceape23.eur.corp.google.com (spaceape23.eur.corp.google.com [172.28.16.75]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id nACA0P1t027354 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:00:25 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; t=1258020025; bh=e0vrlYXvq5Ng6Mc2f3Ggch0+g2U=; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID:Subject:From: To:Cc:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=o35cXdMZonMQN4yRUdKAFpbjICwQSRGUXoVlWnMzv/MRqISVN4Kl8Q2V2e1FrTeZF EBgEMOJH3qeFYr2GN8png== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=beta; d=google.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to: cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-system-of-record; b=IHdRNeXqLJDIjUVK2bIMq2DyF+hGKUxAK4hU28PrZ6mgP+1OloMBfGLN+wMj2qfMz a+mxA1imTps7ymt4JMsdg== Received: from bwz22 (bwz22.prod.google.com [10.188.26.22]) by spaceape23.eur.corp.google.com with ESMTP id nACA0G5M019680 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:00:23 -0800 Received: by bwz22 with SMTP id 22so2117335bwz.25 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:00:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.32.204 with SMTP id e12mr2946678bkd.51.1258020022377; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:00:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:00:22 +0900 Message-ID: <7c31c8cc0911120200o77da5b03w8ad4c466df870f9b@mail.gmail.com> From: Wilmer van der Gaast To: Samuel Weiler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-System-Of-Record: true Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:00:00 -0000 2009/11/12 Samuel Weiler : > > I do. =A0I find it easier to assimilate the presentation when I have the > option to go back and reread the bit that I wasn't paying enough attentio= n > to or which confused me. =A0Accordingly, more lines of history shown on t= he > screen would be better. > Besides, it'd be great if the word processor can be set to not show page breaks or at least not render them as lots of vertical whitespace. At least I assume that's what happens right now every "few" lines. :-/ The transcript is fantastic. I have little problems following the accents but it's a great way to catch up after one of my many moments of mind-absence. :-) Wilmer. From Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com Thu Nov 12 02:02:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792533A6BBD for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:02:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.54 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.059, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9c+2Budqb4NA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:02:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ilptiron01.ecitele.com (ilptiron01.ecitele.com [147.234.242.161]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327363A6BBB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:02:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ilptexfe.ecitele.com (HELO ilptexch01.ecitele.com) ([172.31.244.40]) by ilptiron01.ecitele.com with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2009 11:53:39 +0200 Received: from ILPTMAIL02.ecitele.com ([147.234.244.213]) by ilptexch01.ecitele.com ([172.31.244.40]) with mapi; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:03:14 +0200 From: Alexander Vainshtein To: Leif Johansson , "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:03:20 +0200 Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Network Tear Down Thread-Index: AcpjZp7Lv3P5P4hpTn+tnk/0bOUAmwAGLURw Message-ID: References: <20091112.154544.158695192.kato@wide.ad.jp> <8c99930d0911112302x3a0dd765lc7cca3c642910177@mail.gmail.com> <4AFBB3DA.3050307@sunet.se> In-Reply-To: <4AFBB3DA.3050307@sunet.se> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:02:48 -0000 +1 Sasha=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Leif Johansson > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:06 AM > To: Andrew G. Malis > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down >=20 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 > Andrew G. Malis wrote: > > Thanks for an awesome job on the network this week! >=20 > +1 the network was absolutely totally 100% problem-free for > me this time. Kudos! >=20 > Cheers Leif > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >=20 > iEYEARECAAYFAkr7s9oACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZncfZQCdE8EXMs08Ili9mIS74nh4EZY/ > 3XAAoLBskKUOyDebBkUryYzRfunbfG9K > =3DsLgl > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > = From lieven.levrau@alcatel-lucent.com Thu Nov 12 02:03:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92BDF3A6974 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:03:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t3WLZjuLl7Y8 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:03:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from smail3.alcatel.fr (smail3.alcatel.fr [62.23.212.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1CA3A6873 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:03:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.62]) by smail3.alcatel.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ICT) with ESMTP id nAC9dFuX014631 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:04:04 +0100 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSC3.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.47]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.62]) with mapi; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:04:00 +0100 From: "LEVRAU, LIEVEN (LIEVEN)" To: Alexander Vainshtein , Leif Johansson , "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:03:56 +0100 Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Network Tear Down Thread-Index: AcpjZp7Lv3P5P4hpTn+tnk/0bOUAmwAGLURwAAAGc3A= Message-ID: References: <20091112.154544.158695192.kato@wide.ad.jp> <8c99930d0911112302x3a0dd765lc7cca3c642910177@mail.gmail.com> <4AFBB3DA.3050307@sunet.se> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 155.132.188.83 Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:03:43 -0000 +1 -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Alexander Vainshtein Sent: 12 November 2009 11:03 To: Leif Johansson; Andrew G. Malis Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down +1 Sasha=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Leif Johansson > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:06 AM > To: Andrew G. Malis > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down >=20 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 > Andrew G. Malis wrote: > > Thanks for an awesome job on the network this week! >=20 > +1 the network was absolutely totally 100% problem-free for > me this time. Kudos! >=20 > Cheers Leif > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >=20 > iEYEARECAAYFAkr7s9oACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZncfZQCdE8EXMs08Ili9mIS74nh4EZY/ > 3XAAoLBskKUOyDebBkUryYzRfunbfG9K > =3DsLgl > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >=20 _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From yasuhiro@jprs.co.jp Thu Nov 12 02:14:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198A73A6BBC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:14:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.11 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.11 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mGlget4KIeQg for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:14:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from send11.jprs.co.jp (send11.jprs.co.jp [202.11.17.110]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2033A6944 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:14:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from sendsms11.jprs.co.jp (sendsms11.jprs.co.jp [202.11.17.111]) by send11.jprs.co.jp (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nACAF851025490 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:15:08 +0900 (JST) Received: from sendsms11.jprs.co.jp (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by sendsms11.jprs.co.jp (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id D64FA3566; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:15:08 +0900 (JST) X-AuditID: ca0b116f-0000000400004758-43-4afbe02c008b Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:15:08 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091112.191508.82822736.yasuhiro@jprs.co.jp> To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Yasuhiro Orange Morishita / =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPzkyPEJZOSgbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: <80990FCB-07B7-4AA0-87B1-F2A9D64BF2D3@inetcore.com> References: <458018566.24640@cnnic.cn> <458019465.24640@cnnic.cn> <80990FCB-07B7-4AA0-87B1-F2A9D64BF2D3@inetcore.com> Organization: Japan Registry Services Co., Ltd. X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2.52 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:14:42 -0000 +1 for me, too. But if the character size is a little bit bigger, it is better for me. -- Orange From: Ruri Hiromi Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:59:07 +0900 > Because I usually speak Japanese. > > It is very helpful when I could not catch the words and I can always confirm "to see" with eyes what I heard. > > > On 2009/11/12, at 18:51, YAO Jiankang wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ray Pelletier" > > To: "Ruri Hiromi" > > Cc: <76attendees@ietf.org> > > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:35 PM > > Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... > > > > > >> > >> On Nov 12, 2009, at 4:31 AM, Ruri Hiromi wrote: > >> > >>> This is very helpful. Thanks! > >> > >> Do others see value? And why? How is it helpful? > > > > > > +1 > > good try. > > > > > > very useful for non-native English speaker. > > > > this is the symbol of internationalized IETF. > > > > > > Yao Jiankang > > CNNIC > >> > >> Ray > >> IAD > >> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> Ruri Hiromi > >>> Intec NetCore, Inc. / Keio university > >>> hiromi@inetcore.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> 76attendees mailing list > >>> 76attendees@ietf.org > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 76attendees mailing list > >> 76attendees@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > ------------------------------- > Ruri Hiromi > Intec NetCore, Inc. / Keio university > hiromi@inetcore.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From kouji@hiroshima-u.ac.jp Thu Nov 12 02:17:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BEE3A6944 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:17:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IxFINvxEzLyx for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:17:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from cozy.net.hiroshima-u.ac.jp (cozy.net.hiroshima-u.ac.jp [133.41.10.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55953A6822 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:17:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (host-32-41.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.32.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by cozy.net.hiroshima-u.ac.jp (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id nACAHrja009265 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:17:53 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:17:18 +0900 From: Kouji Nishimura To: 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <4AFBD3FF.3010008@gmail.com> References: <4AFBD3FF.3010008@gmail.com> Message-Id: <20091112191718.AFA5.B601385A@hiroshima-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.52 [ja] Subject: Re: [76attendees] Info about Computer and Network EXPO'09 venue X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:17:24 -0000 Hi, There are no lockers there. We asked the exhibition office to keep your luggage at the reception desk. Tell them that you are the IETFer (or show your IETF budge) and ask them to keep your luggage. Regards, Kouji On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:23:11 +0900 Go Kawaguchi wrote: > Hi > Jordi > > I'm not sure about lockers but you can email the office to ask. > See. > http://www.hia.or.jp/expo/access/en_index.html > > Don't forget tomorrow will be done until 16:00. > > See also > http://www.hia.or.jp/expo/index_en.html > > > > From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ > Date: Thu Nov 12 2009 17:00:54 GMT+0900 > > > I'm planning to visit this exhibition tomorrow on the way to catch my JR, > > but I will prefer to go with my baggage, and then directly to the JR > > station, instead of coming back to the hotel. > > > > Anyone of the locals, or host team can tell me if there are some kind of > > lockers at the Hiroshima Industrial Hall ? > > > > Regards, > > Jordi > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp Thu Nov 12 02:18:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D5028C107 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:18:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DGegbKFn9aIJ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:18:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from send11.jprs.co.jp (send11.jprs.co.jp [202.11.17.110]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E3528C0E9 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:18:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from sendsms11.jprs.co.jp (sendsms11.jprs.co.jp [202.11.17.111]) by send11.jprs.co.jp (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nACAIh0m026175; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:18:43 +0900 (JST) Received: from sendsms11.jprs.co.jp (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by sendsms11.jprs.co.jp (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 4B5E03566; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:18:43 +0900 (JST) X-AuditID: ca0b116f-0000000600004758-59-4afbe10207dc Received: from NOTE233 (bxx0114.jprs.co.jp [172.18.4.53]) by sendsms11.jprs.co.jp (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 859613565; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:18:42 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:18:20 +0900 From: Yoshiro YONEYA To: Ray Pelletier Message-Id: <20091112191820.34b7d381.yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp> In-Reply-To: References: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:18:16 -0000 Transcription is very helpful for understanding discussion. Another value I found was that I could check my speaking was recognized correctly :-) I hope keeping this experience forever. -- Yoshiro YONEYA On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:35:56 -0500 Ray Pelletier wrote: > > On Nov 12, 2009, at 4:31 AM, Ruri Hiromi wrote: > > > This is very helpful. Thanks! > > Do others see value? And why? How is it helpful? > > Ray > IAD > > > > > ------------------------------- > > Ruri Hiromi > > Intec NetCore, Inc. / Keio university > > hiromi@inetcore.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From arnoud@realtimetext.org Thu Nov 12 03:23:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D04A3A6A5B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:23:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.74 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8xVMfexUbpxQ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:23:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx-in02.nouzelle.com (mx-in02.nouzelle.com [87.119.194.141]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687D23A69DE for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:23:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from internal02.nouzelle.com (unknown [172.29.32.13]) by mx-in02.nouzelle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB699B682; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:24:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailscan.nouzelle.com (unknown [172.29.32.10]) by internal02.nouzelle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE249B676; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:24:15 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at nouzelle.com Received: from internal02.nouzelle.com ([172.29.32.13]) by mailscan.nouzelle.com (mailscan.nouzelle.com [172.29.32.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id U6NuiJwwgpRy; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:24:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.142.3.214] (prod02.pvpn.sfo.witopia.net [216.93.191.242]) by internal02.nouzelle.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6D41E9B673; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:24:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AFBF059.7080300@realtimetext.org> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:24:09 +0900 From: Arnoud van Wijk Organization: R3TF User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yoshiro YONEYA References: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> <20091112191820.34b7d381.yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <20091112191820.34b7d381.yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: arnoud@realtimetext.org List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:23:50 -0000 Welcome to my world. I use this service to be able to follow the IETF meetings. The transcriber is my interpreter :-) I am all for making this service available for everyone. You do not need to be deaf to find this real-time captioning/transcribing service useful :-). cheers Arnoud van Wijk www.realtimetext.org Yoshiro YONEYA wrote: > Transcription is very helpful for understanding discussion. > Another value I found was that I could check my speaking was > recognized correctly :-) > > I hope keeping this experience forever. > > From fred@cisco.com Thu Nov 12 03:24:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67EC73A69DE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:24:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -107.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-107.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.399, BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_I_LETTER=-2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6bvRqIG-23bz for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:24:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com (sj-iport-4.cisco.com [171.68.10.86]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54313A6921 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:24:54 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-4.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvIEAON++0pAaHte/2dsb2JhbACBTsJ3mASEPASCZw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,727,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="49153890" Received: from hkg-core-1.cisco.com ([64.104.123.94]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2009 11:25:23 +0000 Received: from host-112-255.meeting.ietf.org (tky-vpn-client-230-9.cisco.com [10.70.230.9]) by hkg-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nACBPAxp011741; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:25:21 GMT Message-Id: <89E84427-ABC9-49BB-9398-DC5C7C4187B6@cisco.com> From: Fred Baker To: Jun Murai Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:25:21 +0900 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] Thanks much X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:24:55 -0000 Jun: The IAOC has drafted a letter to the mayor, which will be delivered to the vice-mayor tomorrow. I want to take an opportunity to thank you and your team personally for your involvement in hosting the IETF, and for the very fine event that it has been. I sent a note to the NOC team earlier in the week. We invariably seem to have issues in the network, which is a little embarrassing given that we are a networking organization - it's the cobbler's shoes that pinch. Per the measurements I have made this week, the network has been among the most stable, predictable, and reliable among IETF meetings in my memory, and my memory goes back almost to the founding of WIDE. The city is gorgeous. We have been to some nice places - I like Prague, the museum in Paris is wonderful, Amsterdam is full of life. But Hiroshima, in my estimation, ranks among the most beautiful and friendly cities we have visited. What other city has changed its annual program just because we came? How many are as pleasant and safe? The hotels have been comfortable, the staff friendly and helpful, and the restaurants inexpensive and good. I am aware, as you are, that this was a diving catch on your part. You and the people of Japan have been good friends to the IETF, over and above the call of duty. Thank you, good friend. We are in your debt. Fred Baker From ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com Thu Nov 12 03:37:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EEA28C117 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:37:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.233 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.233 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.016, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hl4n0raFl4Co for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:37:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw5.ericsson.se (mailgw5.ericsson.se [193.180.251.36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83D43A6864 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:37:58 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb24-b7b67ae000001a2a-37-4afbf3b1d61d Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw5.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 38.C5.06698.1B3FBFA4; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:38:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw109.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.200.2]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:38:20 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:38:17 +0100 Message-ID: <130EBB38279E9847BAAAE0B8F9905F8C0236167D@esealmw109.eemea.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] realtime scripting... Thread-Index: Acpje45zmlGtGTWpT+Sdo65LoVqPpAAEMUJw References: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> From: "Ingemar Johansson S" To: "Ray Pelletier" , <76attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2009 11:38:20.0797 (UTC) FILETIME=[A298BAD0:01CA638C] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:38:00 -0000 Hi I saw it as an extra help for people with hearing problems (like myself) but apparently it gives extra value for others as well. Thanks for the realtime scripting=20 BR Ingemar > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ray Pelletier > Sent: den 12 november 2009 18:36 > To: Ruri Hiromi > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... >=20 >=20 > On Nov 12, 2009, at 4:31 AM, Ruri Hiromi wrote: >=20 > > This is very helpful. Thanks! >=20 > Do others see value? And why? How is it helpful? >=20 > Ray > IAD >=20 > > > > ------------------------------- > > Ruri Hiromi > > Intec NetCore, Inc. / Keio university > > hiromi@inetcore.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >=20 From spencer@wonderhamster.org Thu Nov 12 04:03:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B26A3A68D5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:03:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.717 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.717 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.281, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_71=0.6, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y3YEImE8KGfj for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:03:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6176D3A681D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:03:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from S73602b (host-193-214.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.193.214]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MLNMo-1N80R81SRG-000ypC; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:03:49 -0500 Message-ID: <43BC901D1A0E456D9B9EE8AF54512A46@china.huawei.com> From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: "Ingemar Johansson S" , "Ray Pelletier" , <76attendees@ietf.org> References: <85E87F24-CF9D-42F3-8AC3-3B49BB2CC71A@inetcore.com> <130EBB38279E9847BAAAE0B8F9905F8C0236167D@esealmw109.eemea.ericsson.se> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:03:28 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/taEZ9menNu6fQJRTj6rmtqOyXo6BKFYpr1Vk 99O1ejGlGR6Fma4Zxsr7HoBQHy0+7GdY/BXd6bqTjIaTXaZ3a6 AK5lclQp1rE1ACdkKSilU/3jibgkt1kDmGCk8C5J/I= Subject: Re: [76attendees] realtime scripting... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:03:38 -0000 Ingemar, > I saw it as an extra help for people with hearing problems (like myself) > but apparently it gives extra value for others as well. by Thursday night, we ALL have hearing problems, and we're not parsing English no matter what language we spoke growing up :D Thanks for making this available. When Harald had me taking notes at the IETF plenary(s? can't remember), I was nowhere near this accurate, and the RFID system lets me figure out who is speaking without craning my head randomly. Yet Another Technology That Has Advanced. Spencer From Manuel.Paul@telekom.de Thu Nov 12 04:24:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792BC3A67E1 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:24:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NRKIkl9QQRlc for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:24:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from tcmail53.telekom.de (tcmail53.telekom.de [217.5.214.110]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9FF3A68D5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:24:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from s4de9jsaanm.mgb.telekom.de (HELO S4DE9JSAANM.ost.t-com.de) ([10.125.177.122]) by tcmail51.telekom.de with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2009 13:24:53 +0100 Received: from S4DE9JSAANI.ost.t-com.de ([10.125.177.223]) by S4DE9JSAANM.ost.t-com.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:24:53 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:24:06 +0100 Message-ID: <40FB0FFB97588246A1BEFB05759DC8A0039EFD44@S4DE9JSAANI.ost.t-com.de> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] Network Tear Down Thread-Index: AcpjaNRgvEqSEsrPTYWJ09kDC5erfwAKY8yA References: <20091112.154544.158695192.kato@wide.ad.jp><8c99930d0911112302x3a0dd765lc7cca3c642910177@mail.gmail.com><4AFBB3DA.3050307@sunet.se> From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2009 12:24:53.0631 (UTC) FILETIME=[234160F0:01CA6393] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:24:40 -0000 +1=20 Great job -> 100% stable network and excellent wireless performance throughout the whole week ! Thanks a lot, Manuel -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bob Hinden Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:22 PM To: Akira Kato Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down On Nov 12, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Leif Johansson wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Andrew G. Malis wrote: >> Thanks for an awesome job on the network this week! > > +1 the network was absolutely totally 100% problem-free for > me this time. Kudos! +1 Excellent network! Bob > > Cheers Leif > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAkr7s9oACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZncfZQCdE8EXMs08Ili9mIS74nh4EZY/ > 3XAAoLBskKUOyDebBkUryYzRfunbfG9K > =3DsLgl > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Thu Nov 12 05:20:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4D93A6937 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:20:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.205 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.205 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.650, BAYES_00=-2.599, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=0.044, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EDprCFKLQWLf for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:20:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9E83A689E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:20:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=rg+ietf@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1258032087; x=1289568087; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer: x-message-note:date:to:from:subject:content-type: x-random-sig-tag:x-ironport-av; z=Message-Id:=20|In-Reply-To:=20<8A44BD40-CC91-4328-8C16-92EAB A8DA372@fugue.com>|References:=20<8A44BD40-CC91-4328-8C16 -92EABA8DA372@fugue.com>|X-Mailer:=20Eudora=20for=20Mac =20OS=20X|X-message-Note:=20Warning:=20Outlook=20in=20use .=20=20Upgrade=20to=20Eudora:=20 |Date:=20Thu,=2012=20Nov=202009=2001:31:37=20-0800|To:=20 Ted=20Lemon=20,=20<76attendees@ietf.org >|From:=20Randall=20Gellens=20 |Subject:=20Re:=20[76attendees]=20Laundry?|Content-Type: =20text/plain=3B=20charset=3D"us-ascii"=20=3B=20format=3D "flowed"|X-Random-Sig-Tag:=201.0b28|X-IronPort-AV:=20E=3D McAfee=3Bi=3D"5300,2777,5799"=3B=20a=3D"27443767"; bh=QkvQWfcIRFlU+97qNtStuD6i58L5YltVCOqO/0RyJoQ=; b=cgluraJos2EWX0dfWndIQIEKig5+e/hBCGMkfdPMUTFNJ9ttJYrs0Ibb DhFplR75v2yPYgGF6R9UmQrgAWuRjqXXmJ2gfYovIGB1OUmjeY+R1RBkn 11GexO7UAxsIztAJtm3ogMjsfvzQsnhJFayYYqLIsTbme4pogUvtDVZBU c=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5300,2777,5799"; a="27443767" Received: from pdmz-ns-mip.qualcomm.com (HELO ithilien.qualcomm.com) ([199.106.114.10]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 12 Nov 2009 05:21:26 -0800 Received: from msgtransport01.qualcomm.com (msgtransport01.qualcomm.com [129.46.61.148]) by ithilien.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id nACDLQuH029551 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:21:26 -0800 Received: from host-112-104.meeting.ietf.org (myvpn-l-110.ras.qualcomm.com [10.64.128.110]) by msgtransport01.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id nACDLKwa013948; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:21:25 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8A44BD40-CC91-4328-8C16-92EABA8DA372@fugue.com> References: <8A44BD40-CC91-4328-8C16-92EABA8DA372@fugue.com> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X X-message-Note: Warning: Outlook in use. Upgrade to Eudora: Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:31:37 -0800 To: Ted Lemon , <76attendees@ietf.org> From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Subject: Re: [76attendees] Laundry? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:20:58 -0000 At 12:50 PM +0900 11/12/09, Ted Lemon wrote: > Has anybody had a successful laundry experience thus far? There's a coin laundry a few blocks from here, marked on the maps provided by the ANA concierge. It's on the corner past the Oriental Hotel. Also, across the street is another hotel, forget the name, which has a coin laundry area in the lobby. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Politics offers yesterday's answers to today's problems. --Marshall McLuhan From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Thu Nov 12 05:21:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659FA28C16E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:21:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.112 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.112 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.557, BAYES_00=-2.599, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=0.044, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TS+fjuQEfn95 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:21:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E9A28C123 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:21:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=rg+ietf@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1258032089; x=1289568089; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer: x-message-note:date:to:from:subject:cc:content-type: x-random-sig-tag:x-ironport-av; z=Message-Id:=20|In-Reply-To:=20<4AFA5757.6030200@sunet.se> |References:=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20<4AFA5757.6030200@sun et.se>|X-Mailer:=20Eudora=20for=20Mac=20OS=20X |X-message-Note:=20Warning:=20Outlook=20in=20use.=20=20Up grade=20to=20Eudora:=20|Date:=20Th u,=2012=20Nov=202009=2001:36:16=20-0800|To:=20Leif=20Joha nsson=20|From:=20Randall=20Gellens=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[76attendees]=20RFID =20and=20toilets|Cc:=20<76attendees@ietf.org> |Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3D"us-ascii"=20 =3B=20format=3D"flowed"|X-Random-Sig-Tag:=201.0b28 |X-IronPort-AV:=20E=3DMcAfee=3Bi=3D"5300,2777,5799"=3B=20 a=3D"27443769"; bh=1feMxpaquyJu/NvK1+dQZU6gMKKKgQXwefOtAfSXQq4=; b=ox/H8fJaP8nZKRNvRpC0a64D5w+Hx3uKHflFU3BRSE2b4s2El4rjlsUa 7yFaE52zMFuHMfy1ogKr1Rwut1J+zQQ4EyVMdS8/p4d1uDf7GM9hT/wUp uW+q/71GNi/IqToFciwcx8lizujC31VvM+9Wh820u1ns5R5j88lkBwah9 0=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5300,2777,5799"; a="27443769" Received: from pdmz-ns-mip.qualcomm.com (HELO numenor.qualcomm.com) ([199.106.114.10]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 12 Nov 2009 05:21:29 -0800 Received: from msgtransport01.qualcomm.com (msgtransport01.qualcomm.com [129.46.61.148]) by numenor.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id nACDLTUm009640 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:21:29 -0800 Received: from host-112-104.meeting.ietf.org (myvpn-l-110.ras.qualcomm.com [10.64.128.110]) by msgtransport01.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id nACDLKwc013948; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:21:27 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4AFA5757.6030200@sunet.se> References: <4AFA5757.6030200@sunet.se> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X X-message-Note: Warning: Outlook in use. Upgrade to Eudora: Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:36:16 -0800 To: Leif Johansson From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and toilets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:21:01 -0000 At 7:19 AM +0100 11/11/09, Leif Johansson wrote: > On that topic > I'm fascinated by how running power that close to your private > parts doesn't seem to be a problem in this country :-) Toilet seats with washing are available in other countries. The brand used in the ANA hotel, Toto, has a good U.S. presence. Note that many of the models sold in Japan take advantage of having both hot and cold water available, while the models sold in the U.S., for example, assume that only cold is available, and thus have their own water heater, but as a consequence, have lower-volume washing streams. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- 100 blocks of crud on the disk, 100 blocks of crud! You patch a bug, and dump it again: 101 blocks of crud on the disk!... From roehricht@tm.uka.de Thu Nov 12 05:48:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF83228C14E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:48:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.949 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.949 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QFRdfk6sjodm for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:48:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de (iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de [141.3.10.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3ADC3A69FE for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:48:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-144-79.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.144.79]) by iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de with esmtpsa port 25 id 1N8a2n-0001tX-5C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:49:09 +0100 Message-ID: <4AFC1249.5000205@tm.uka.de> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:48:57 +0900 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Martin_R=F6hricht?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> <4AF653C9.9050001@gmail.com> <4AF68E5E.9060103@ee.ucl.ac.uk> <4AFA4A65.7020707@gmail.com> <4AFA649E.8040807@gmail.com> <4AFBB56F.1030306@gmail.com> <4AFBD58C.5050102@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ATIS-AV: ClamAV (iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de) X-ATIS-AV: Kaspersky (iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de) X-ATIS-Timestamp: iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de esmtpsa 1258033750.044689000 Subject: [76attendees] Soccer team picture X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:48:42 -0000 Hey, I uploaded a team picture of some of our tonight's brave soccer players. Apperently I messed up on the photo which is somewhat blurred. Perhaps one of the other photographers did a better job and can post a link to their results, too. I really enjoyed playing with you. Anyway, here is the link: http://www.roehricht.info/galleries/2009-11-12-Hiroshima-soccer-team.jpg Bye, Martin From ondrej.sury@nic.cz Thu Nov 12 07:52:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0737828C1B9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:52:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.5 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_23=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_43=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bU6MdBmTL7Rn for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:52:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.nic.cz (mail.nic.cz [IPv6:2001:1488:800:400::400]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C756428C1B0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:52:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:144:224:e8ff:fea9:f617] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:144:224:e8ff:fea9:f617]) by mail.nic.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 495ED7343C5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:52:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AFC2F46.5040602@nic.cz> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:52:38 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?T25kxZllaiBTdXLDvQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20090915 Lightning/1.0pre Thunderbird/3.0b4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <8A44BD40-CC91-4328-8C16-92EABA8DA372@fugue.com> In-Reply-To: <8A44BD40-CC91-4328-8C16-92EABA8DA372@fugue.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] Laundry? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:52:32 -0000 On 12.11.2009 04:50, Ted Lemon wrote: > Has anybody had a successful laundry experience thus far? /me just used coin laundry recommended at http://www.ietf76.jp/general/ Walk from ANA turn left until you need to cross big crossroad and peds crossing is little to left (there is 7/11 across the path), go to that 7/11 to buy detergent (or you can hope there is the one I had to buy - I left it at laundry), then take path parallel with Peace Blv and 7/11 should be on your left. Coin laundry is at the end of second block on the right side (there was some bicycles around that corner). Took 38+10 minutes (wash+dry) and 200+100 yen. Drying time may wary, I just needed to wash+dry my jeans. Ondrej -- OndÅ™ej Surý vedoucí výzkumu/R&D manager ------------------------------------------- CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. -- LaboratoÅ™e CZ.NIC Americka 23, 120 00 Praha 2, Czech Republic mailto:ondrej.sury@nic.cz http://nic.cz/ tel:+420.222745110 fax:+420.222745112 ------------------------------------------- From ondrej.sury@nic.cz Thu Nov 12 07:55:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F9F28C1CA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:55:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.2 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_50=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_23=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KXJj46me+WRk for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:55:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.nic.cz (mail.cznic.org [IPv6:2001:1488:800:400::400]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3089E28C1C7 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:55:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:144:224:e8ff:fea9:f617] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:144:224:e8ff:fea9:f617]) by mail.nic.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB8C87343C5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:56:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AFC300F.6040408@nic.cz> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:55:59 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?T25kxZllaiBTdXLDvQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20090915 Lightning/1.0pre Thunderbird/3.0b4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <4AFBBB7B.4020107@sri.com> In-Reply-To: <4AFBBB7B.4020107@sri.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] sake and japanese whiskey X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:55:51 -0000 On 12.11.2009 08:38, Ed Jankiewicz wrote: > anyone have any luck finding a wine and spirits type shop where a > variety of sake and whiskey can seen? all I find is a few cheap brands > in 7-11s etc. and have not seen any specialty stores. There is the Fair of Hiroshima products prepared for IETF. It's located near SOGO department store in the underground station (there are papers with info lying around). I bought some sake there. Ondrej -- OndÅ™ej Surý vedoucí výzkumu/R&D manager ------------------------------------------- CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. -- LaboratoÅ™e CZ.NIC Americka 23, 120 00 Praha 2, Czech Republic mailto:ondrej.sury@nic.cz http://nic.cz/ tel:+420.222745110 fax:+420.222745112 ------------------------------------------- From ole@cisco.com Thu Nov 12 08:09:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5FC3A6C02 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:09:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.577 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.577 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lQZdkNZt2+85 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:09:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEA83A6860 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:09:41 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-3.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAPrB+0qrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbADFRoEbCAGHfgmOZIJSgWoE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,728,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="202650078" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2009 16:10:09 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nACGA9ev019331; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:10:09 GMT Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:09:26 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Randall Gellens In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4AFA5757.6030200@sunet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and toilets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:09:42 -0000 Not to brag but: The Toto in my room automatically raises the lid when I enter the room, automatically flushes afterwards and then closes the lid. I don't think it can be programmed to detect gender, but you can probably set it to raise both lid and seat, which currently has to be opened by push of the remote control on the wall. I've looked into getting a "real" Toto Washlet in the US, and it's around $3,000 installed, but there are cheaper alternatives. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj From stewe@stewe.org Thu Nov 12 09:17:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2769528C103 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:17:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fCLVQE1Q-dNi for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from stewe.org (stewe.org [85.214.122.234]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4423A6A4A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:17:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [133.93.114.74] (unverified [133.93.114.74]) by stewe.org (SurgeMail 3.9e) with ESMTP id 487248-1743317 for multiple; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:18:14 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:17:28 +0900 From: Stephan Wenger To: Ole Jacobsen , Randall Gellens Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] RFID and toilets Thread-Index: AcpjvAJ5p3S4jXyq/06F2SjO5/wINQ== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 133.93.114.74 X-Authenticated-User: stewe@stewe.org Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and toilets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:17:48 -0000 Interesting discussion. I have Toto Jasmine add-on bides in my house; they're less than $1000, you can self-install if there is a GFIed plug in the neighborhood and if you can operate a wrench and a screwdriver. Definitely a choice when remodeling a bathroom and be able to install a plug close to the toilet. Stephan http://www.bathroomfurnituredirect.com/asp/superbrowse.asp?clid=695&caid=&sk u=TOT3279&refid=XT98-TOT3279 On 11/13/09 1:09 AM, "Ole Jacobsen" wrote: > > Not to brag but: The Toto in my room automatically raises the lid when > I enter the room, automatically flushes afterwards and then closes the > lid. I don't think it can be programmed to detect gender, but you can > probably set it to raise both lid and seat, which currently has to be > opened by push of the remote control on the wall. > > I've looked into getting a "real" Toto Washlet in the US, and it's > around $3,000 installed, but there are cheaper alternatives. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From rdv@sfc.wide.ad.jp Thu Nov 12 13:59:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538E53A6831 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:59:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.484 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.484 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.279, BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S4ylxVnZG9Bv for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:59:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085553A67E4 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:59:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from rdvmac.fletsphone (63.25.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp [125.30.25.63]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DEA5E4CC51 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:00:14 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp> From: Rodney Van Meter To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-158-583140566; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:00:14 +0900 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:59:51 -0000 --Apple-Mail-158-583140566 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm a member of the WIDE Project, but I get none of the credit for making IETF such a success. I stand in awe especially of the NOC team: Profs. Kato, Osamu Nakamura, and Shigechika from Keio, Prof. Maeda from Hiroshima, Ray Atarashi from IIJ, and a long list of students (including qoo, kudo, and tomine). Some of them prefer to work in the background, but their work stands out. The city also went amazingly far out of its way. The "Welcome IETF" signs on the streetcar platforms, the party, the PASPY, and especially the city lights that made wandering the streets in the evening so pleasant. I didn't try the bikes, and had no need of the translator service (except possibly from Hiroshima dialect to Kanto dialect :-), but those seemed to be wins, as well. The gang from e-side (Scott and Pres. Arai, and others whose names I don't recall) certainly made it all work. And Jun Murai is, of course, The Man. ("What kind of sycophant are you?" "What kind would you like?" to quote a movie.) For those of you who missed the social, my new hero: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadatoshi_Akiba I've followed his peace work for years, but had no idea he has a Ph.D. in math from MIT and taught in the U.S. for more than fifteen years. Hope to see you in Anaheim! --Rod P.S. Do try to walk over to the dome and museum, if you haven't yet. It's close, it's important, it's moving, it's sobering. 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boundary=Apple-Mail-159-583291382; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:02:45 +0900 References: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:02:20 -0000 --Apple-Mail-159-583291382 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit P.S. 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(host-128-64.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.128.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm1010398bwz.15.2009.11.12.14.19.25 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:19:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFC89E0.7060000@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:19:12 +1300 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] One more RFID database error... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:19:04 -0000 SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions WG Acacia West 2009-11-10 17:11:48 This is also wrong, I was in OPSAWG in Acacia East -- Regards Brian Carpenter From tme@americafree.tv Thu Nov 12 14:22:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE013A69A2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:22:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zoQ7T-Lf-QgV for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:22:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.americafree.tv (rossini.americafree.tv [63.105.122.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE993A697C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:22:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (rossini.americafree.tv [63.105.122.34]) by mail.americafree.tv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED46533DF71; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:23:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <7D881F4F-547A-4D98-BC17-D5D4A3C74514@americafree.tv> From: Marshall Eubanks To: Rodney Van Meter In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:23:23 -0500 References: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:22:57 -0000 Yes, indeed. This was a stellar meeting. Regards Marshall On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Rodney Van Meter wrote: > P.S. And Ole for oranizing a lot of the info about Hiroshima! > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Thu Nov 12 14:37:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8048C3A693D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:37:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.426 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.426 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.620, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05IodVY8wIDt for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:37:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.sri.com (mail.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9719D3A69A2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:37:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [133.93.113.85] ([unknown] [133.93.113.85]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KT00076RPJHTZ90@mail.sri.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:38:06 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <4AFC8E4E.4030104@sri.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:38:06 +0900 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: Ole Jacobsen References: <4AFA5757.6030200@sunet.se> In-reply-to: Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and toilets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:37:52 -0000 and the mini bar in my room prepares a dry martini (shaken not stirred) if I return during happy hour, or a warmed cognac with a decaf espresso when I return after dinner. I wish... On 11/13/2009 1:09 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > Not to brag but: The Toto in my room automatically raises the lid when > I enter the room, automatically flushes afterwards and then closes the > lid. I don't think it can be programmed to detect gender, but you can > probably set it to raise both lid and seat, which currently has to be > opened by push of the remote control on the wall. > > I've looked into getting a "real" Toto Washlet in the US, and it's > around $3,000 installed, but there are cheaper alternatives. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com From tme@americafree.tv Thu Nov 12 15:08:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87913A683B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:08:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ErGYM1ymHHWs for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.americafree.tv (rossini.americafree.tv [63.105.122.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A353A6784 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (rossini.americafree.tv [63.105.122.34]) by mail.americafree.tv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A469533F145 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:09:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <0B2A00B8-3F08-42AB-A8D3-940C7C47EA1A@americafree.tv> From: Marshall Eubanks To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:09:05 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [76attendees] All Nippon Airways, Flight 3128 Saturday X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:08:39 -0000 I think there will be a bunch of IETFers flying with me on this flight at 7:55 AM tomorrow. Anyone interested in sharing a taxi or even an early breakfast please let me know. Marshall From randy@psg.com Thu Nov 12 15:11:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97BEE28C11E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:11:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7CKg66t0nLCe for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:11:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA1728C11B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:11:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-40-47.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.40.47]) by ran.psg.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1N8ipS-000DsP-4R; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:11:50 +0000 Message-ID: <4AFC9634.7080205@psg.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:11:48 +0900 From: Randy Bush User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rodney Van Meter References: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:11:26 -0000 Rodney Van Meter wrote: > I'm a member of the WIDE Project, but I get none of the credit for > making IETF such a success. I stand in awe especially of the NOC team: > Profs. Kato, Osamu Nakamura, and Shigechika from Keio, Prof. Maeda from > Hiroshima, Ray Atarashi from IIJ, and a long list of students (including > qoo, kudo, and tomine). Some of them prefer to work in the background, > but their work stands out. > > The city also went amazingly far out of its way. The "Welcome IETF" > signs on the streetcar platforms, the party, the PASPY, and especially > the city lights that made wandering the streets in the evening so > pleasant. I didn't try the bikes, and had no need of the translator > service (except possibly from Hiroshima dialect to Kanto dialect :-), > but those seemed to be wins, as well. > > The gang from e-side (Scott and Pres. Arai, and others whose names I > don't recall) certainly made it all work. > > And Jun Murai is, of course, The Man. ("What kind of sycophant are > you?" "What kind would you like?" to quote a movie.) From warlord@pgp.com Thu Nov 12 15:16:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AEE3A693B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:16:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vu9lNAmsEOHx for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:16:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from pgpeng.com (mail.pgpeng.com [216.112.105.75]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCF43A683B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:16:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from keys.pgpeng.com (account derek [10.214.100.74] verified) by pgpeng.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTPSA id 5796447 for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:17:22 -0800 Received: from pgpdev.ihtfp.org ([10.214.2.241]) by keys.pgpeng.com (PGP Universal service); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:17:22 -0800 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by keys.pgpeng.com on Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:17:22 -0800 Message-ID: <4AFC977F.4010307@pgp.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:17:19 -0500 From: Derek Atkins User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090825) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marshall Eubanks References: <0B2A00B8-3F08-42AB-A8D3-940C7C47EA1A@americafree.tv> In-Reply-To: <0B2A00B8-3F08-42AB-A8D3-940C7C47EA1A@americafree.tv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] All Nippon Airways, Flight 3128 Saturday X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:16:53 -0000 I'm on that flight on Sunday.. Is anyone else? I was planning to just take the 5:55 bus, as the bus terminal is right next door to me here at the Rihga. -derek Marshall Eubanks wrote: > I think there will be a bunch of IETFers flying with me on this flight > at 7:55 AM tomorrow. > > Anyone interested in sharing a taxi or even an early breakfast please > let me know. > > Marshall > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees -- Derek Atkins Principal Software Engineer PGP Corporation 4 Farragut Ave Somerville, MA 02144 +1 617 623 3745 | warlord@pgp.com PGP Corporation -- Rest Secured.(TM) PGP Fingerprint: 0FEE 5EA1 FF22 E0C9 4FFE 631A 9232 FF93 1C80 1DB7 This email and any attachments thereto may contain private, confidential, and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, copying, or distribution of this email (or any attachments thereto) by others is strictly prohibited. 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From sfaibish@comcast.net Thu Nov 12 15:21:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5A728C0FE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:21:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Js2lmAeAOX2o for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from QMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.243]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD2A28C0CF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:21:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from OMTA19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by QMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4E5n1d04N27AodY5DPNTTt; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:22:27 +0000 Received: from sz0036.wc.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.58.86]) by OMTA19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4PW11d00D1rdXlG3fPW1P4; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:30:01 +0000 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:22:26 +0000 (UTC) From: sfaibish@comcast.net To: Derek Atkins Message-ID: <1883477895.3358491258068146224.JavaMail.root@sz0036a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4AFC977F.4010307@pgp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_167141_1977912944.1258068146223" X-Originating-IP: [133.93.113.17] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.18_GA_3076.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/5.0.18_GA_3076.RHEL5_64) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] All Nippon Airways, Flight 3128 Saturday X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:21:59 -0000 ------=_Part_167141_1977912944.1258068146223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am on the Sunday=C2=A03128 flight =C2=A0too.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Derek Atkins" =20 To: "Marshall Eubanks" =20 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org=20 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:17:19 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern= =20 Subject: Re: [76attendees] All Nippon Airways, Flight 3128 Saturday=20 I'm on that flight on Sunday.. =C2=A0Is anyone else? =C2=A0I was planning t= o just=20 take the 5:55 bus, as the bus terminal is right next door to me here at=20 the Rihga.=20 -derek=20 Marshall Eubanks wrote:=20 > I think there will be a bunch of IETFers flying with me on this flight=20 > at 7:55 AM tomorrow.=20 >=20 > Anyone interested in sharing a taxi or even an early breakfast please=20 > let me know.=20 >=20 > Marshall=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________=20 > 76attendees mailing list=20 > 76attendees@ietf.org=20 > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees=20 --=20 Derek Atkins=20 Principal Software Engineer=20 PGP Corporation=20 4 Farragut Ave=20 Somerville, MA =C2=A002144=20 +1 617 623 3745 | warlord@pgp.com=20 PGP Corporation -- Rest Secured.(TM)=20 PGP Fingerprint:=20 0FEE 5EA1 FF22 E0C9 4FFE=20 631A 9232 FF93 1C80 1DB7=20 This email and any attachments thereto may contain private,=20 confidential, and privileged material for the sole use of the intended=20 recipient. 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I am o= n the Sunday 3128 flight too.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Atkins" <warlord@pgp= .com>
To: "Marshall Eubanks" <tme@americafree.tv>
Cc: 76atte= ndees@ietf.org
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:17:19 PM GMT -05:00 U= S/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [76attendees] All Nippon Airways, Flight 3= 128 Saturday

I'm on that flight on Sunday..  Is anyone else? &n= bsp;I was planning to just
take the 5:55 bus, as the bus terminal is rig= ht next door to me here at
the Rihga.

-derek

Marshall Euba= nks wrote:
> I think there will be a bunch of IETFers flying with me = on this flight
> at 7:55 AM tomorrow.
>
> Anyone interes= ted in sharing a taxi or even an early breakfast please
> let me know= .
>
> Marshall
>
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> 76attendees@ietf= .org
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-= -
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------=_Part_167141_1977912944.1258068146223-- From scott@e-side.co.jp Thu Nov 12 15:26:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938573A6817 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:26:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.989 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.989 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.779, BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S5irbKd4I03O for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:26:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.e-side.co.jp (www.e-side.co.jp [202.45.165.133]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DD13A6805 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:26:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1861 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2009 08:27:23 +0900 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (133.93.6.37) by www.e-side.co.jp with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 13 Nov 2009 08:27:23 +0900 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:27:20 +0900 From: scott To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <20091113082720.000f39d5@e-side.co.jp> Organization: e-side X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] storing luggage at the ANA X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:26:55 -0000 For those of you travelling today, the ANA is offering a cloak service in Camellia on the 4F until 17:00. scott From jhaluska@telcordia.com Thu Nov 12 15:35:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE623A6855 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:35:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iV08ioAlBHIg for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:35:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from dnsmx1pya.telcordia.com (dnsmx1pya.telcordia.com [128.96.20.31]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0E53A681A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:35:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from pya-dte-ieg01.dte.telcordia.com (pya-dte-ieg01.cc.telcordia.com [128.96.20.21]) by dnsmx1pya.telcordia.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nACNaNFN023333 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:36:23 -0500 (EST) X-AuditID: 80601415-000010d40000054c-27-4afc9bf4376a Received: from rrc-dte-exhb1.dte.telcordia.com ([128.96.20.12]) by pya-dte-ieg01.dte.telcordia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:36:20 -0500 Received: from rrc-dte-exmb2.dte.telcordia.com ([128.96.180.27]) by rrc-dte-exhb1.dte.telcordia.com ([128.96.20.12]) with mapi; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:36:20 -0500 From: "Haluska, John J" To: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:36:19 -0500 Thread-Topic: reservations for bus between Haneda and Narita? Thread-Index: AQHKY++hi0fqvpeqvEaBwYpJowsa4Q== Message-ID: <8B6A9EC265011E4CB70F99C64426E8C20537FDB211@rrc-dte-exmb2.dte.telcordia.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: [76attendees] reservations for bus between Haneda and Narita? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:35:55 -0000 Does anyone know whether one actually needs to make reservations for the bu= s between Haneda and Narita? I spoke with the concierge this AM and he indi= cated that the bus runs about every 10 minutes, and that he did not think a= reservation is necessary. I'd be interested to hear anyone's thoughts abou= t this. Thanks From weiler@watson.org Thu Nov 12 15:36:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0A53A6855 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:36:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.088, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WpFElogVZu3E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:36:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6669D3A681A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:36:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nACNbIZZ082580 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:37:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from weiler@watson.org) Received: from localhost (weiler@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nACNbIfJ082577 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:37:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from weiler@watson.org) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: weiler owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:37:18 -0500 (EST) From: Samuel Weiler To: 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <20091113082720.000f39d5@e-side.co.jp> Message-ID: References: <20091113082720.000f39d5@e-side.co.jp> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:37:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: [76attendees] storing luggage at Hiroshima station X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:36:51 -0000 Speaking of luggage storage... Are there lockers or a left-baggage desk at the local train station? From ben@nostrum.com Thu Nov 12 15:37:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EBE28C100 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:37:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.23 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.23 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.369, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 63m0N4EGkpou for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:37:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3D228C0D6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:37:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (host-112-100.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.112.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nACNbdaO060010 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:37:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-14-588985541 From: Ben Campbell In-Reply-To: <1883477895.3358491258068146224.JavaMail.root@sz0036a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:37:39 +0900 Message-Id: References: <1883477895.3358491258068146224.JavaMail.root@sz0036a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> To: sfaibish@comcast.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 133.93.112.100 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] All Nippon Airways, Flight 3128 Saturday X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:37:18 -0000 --Apple-Mail-14-588985541 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm also on the Sunday flight. I plan to take the bus. On Nov 13, 2009, at 8:22 AM, sfaibish@comcast.net wrote: > I am on the Sunday 3128 flight too. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Derek Atkins" > To: "Marshall Eubanks" > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:17:19 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [76attendees] All Nippon Airways, Flight 3128 Saturday > > I'm on that flight on Sunday.. Is anyone else? I was planning to just > take the 5:55 bus, as the bus terminal is right next door to me here at > the Rihga. > > -derek > > Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > I think there will be a bunch of IETFers flying with me on this flight > > at 7:55 AM tomorrow. > > > > Anyone interested in sharing a taxi or even an early breakfast please > > let me know. > > > > Marshall > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > -- > Derek Atkins > Principal Software Engineer > > PGP Corporation > 4 Farragut Ave > Somerville, MA 02144 > > +1 617 623 3745 | warlord@pgp.com > > PGP Corporation -- Rest Secured.(TM) > > PGP Fingerprint: > 0FEE 5EA1 FF22 E0C9 4FFE > 631A 9232 FF93 1C80 1DB7 > > This email and any attachments thereto may contain private, > confidential, and privileged material for the sole use of the intended > recipient. 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I'm also on the Sunday flight. I plan to take = the bus.

On Nov 13, 2009, at 8:22 AM, sfaibish@comcast.net = wrote:

I am on = the Sunday 3128 flight too.
warlord@pgp.com>
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I'm on that flight on Sunday..  Is anyone else? =  I was planning to just
take the 5:55 bus, as the bus terminal = is right next door to me here at
the = Rihga.

-derek

Marshall Eubanks wrote:
> I think = there will be a bunch of IETFers flying with me on this flight
> = at 7:55 AM tomorrow.
> 
> Anyone interested = in sharing a taxi or even an early breakfast please
> let me = know.
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> = Marshall
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= --Apple-Mail-14-588985541-- From tme@americafree.tv Thu Nov 12 15:41:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E41C28C0CF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:41:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l9Y9wGtiyyet for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.americafree.tv (rossini.americafree.tv [63.105.122.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782443A6AF6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (rossini.americafree.tv [63.105.122.34]) by mail.americafree.tv (Postfix) with ESMTP id E188F533FE86; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:42:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <02CFC796-F300-412B-8E7C-A757FEA32E20@americafree.tv> From: Marshall Eubanks To: Derek Atkins In-Reply-To: <4AFC977F.4010307@pgp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:42:17 -0500 References: <0B2A00B8-3F08-42AB-A8D3-940C7C47EA1A@americafree.tv> <4AFC977F.4010307@pgp.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] All Nippon Airways, Flight 3128 Saturday X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:41:50 -0000 Please note that tomorrow is Saturday, and that's the day I am leaving... Marshall On Nov 12, 2009, at 6:17 PM, Derek Atkins wrote: > I'm on that flight on Sunday.. Is anyone else? I was planning to > just > take the 5:55 bus, as the bus terminal is right next door to me here > at > the Rihga. > > -derek > > Marshall Eubanks wrote: >> I think there will be a bunch of IETFers flying with me on this >> flight >> at 7:55 AM tomorrow. >> >> Anyone interested in sharing a taxi or even an early breakfast please >> let me know. >> >> Marshall >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > -- > Derek Atkins > Principal Software Engineer > > PGP Corporation > 4 Farragut Ave > Somerville, MA 02144 > > +1 617 623 3745 | warlord@pgp.com > > PGP Corporation -- Rest Secured.(TM) > > PGP Fingerprint: > 0FEE 5EA1 FF22 E0C9 4FFE > 631A 9232 FF93 1C80 1DB7 > > This email and any attachments thereto may contain private, > confidential, and privileged material for the sole use of the intended > recipient. Any review, copying, or distribution of this email (or any > attachments thereto) by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not > the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and > permanently delete the original and any copies of this email and any > attachments thereto. > > From warlord@pgp.com Thu Nov 12 15:48:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3302E3A6784 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:48:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xn+VvXTbLjF7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:48:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pgpeng.com (mail.pgpeng.com [216.112.105.75]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04823A682F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from keys.pgpeng.com (account derek [10.214.100.74] verified) by pgpeng.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTPSA id 5796614 for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:48:57 -0800 Received: from pgpdev.ihtfp.org ([10.214.2.241]) by keys.pgpeng.com (PGP Universal service); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:48:57 -0800 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by keys.pgpeng.com on Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:48:57 -0800 Message-ID: <4AFC9EE7.9060605@pgp.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:48:55 -0500 From: Derek Atkins User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090825) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Samuel Weiler References: <20091113082720.000f39d5@e-side.co.jp> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] storing luggage at Hiroshima station X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:48:30 -0000 Samuel Weiler wrote: > Speaking of luggage storage... > > Are there lockers or a left-baggage desk at the local train station? I'm 99% sure there is one. There seems to be luggage storage at every Shinkansen stop that I've visited, so I don't see why Hiroshima would be any different. -derek -- Derek Atkins Principal Software Engineer PGP Corporation 4 Farragut Ave Somerville, MA 02144 +1 617 623 3745 | warlord@pgp.com PGP Corporation -- Rest Secured.(TM) PGP Fingerprint: 0FEE 5EA1 FF22 E0C9 4FFE 631A 9232 FF93 1C80 1DB7 This email and any attachments thereto may contain private, confidential, and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, copying, or distribution of this email (or any attachments thereto) by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copies of this email and any attachments thereto. From hinoue@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp Thu Nov 12 15:48:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C203A68EE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:48:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.659 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.659 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vHemHoMNot5e for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:48:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (mailchk.ipc.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.40.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7424D3A6912 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:48:56 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: a5f21605-b7bf5ae000001e19-24-4afc9f052268 Received: from oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp [165.242.42.120]) by (Symantec Brightmail Gateway sbg2-outbound) with SMTP id DD.DF.07705.50F9CFA4; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:49:25 +0900 (JST) Received: from [133.93.16.49] (host-16-49.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.49]) by oligo.inet.info.hiroshima-cu.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE3A3BC002 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:49:25 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:49:23 +0900 From: Hiroyuki INOUE To: 76attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <4AFBBB7B.4020107@sri.com> References: <4AFBBB7B.4020107@sri.com> Message-Id: <20091113084922.D9A4.7D6AB772@hiroshima-cu.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.51.05 [ja] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [76attendees] sake and japanese whiskey X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:48:58 -0000 On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:38:35 +0900 Ed Jankiewicz wrote: > anyone have any luck finding a wine and spirits type shop where a > variety of sake and whiskey can seen? all I find is a few cheap brands > in 7-11s etc. and have not seen any specialty stores. Yes, 7-11 has cheaper items just to satisfy to drink. Hishima Brand & Product Fair is held at Shareo, where is the underground shopping mall just at the Kamiyacho crossing, next to Sogo Department Store. This fair is held until Friday (today), 10:00 am - 7:00 pm. Certain way is to purchase liquor/sake at the department stores: - Sogo Department Store ($B$=$4$&(B) 10 minutes walk from the venue, same building of the Bus Center, at kamiya-cho crossing http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=34.395897,132.457395&z=17 - Fukuya Department Store 1 ($BJ!20(B) 12 minutes walk from the venue, at Haccho-bori crossing http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=34.393587,132.462716&z=17 - Fukuya Department Store 2 (larger than 1) next (south) building of JR Hiroshima Station, directly connected to JR station with underground passageway If you will use Shinkansen railway, it is convenient. You can also find many kind of Japanese dish/cup at 7th floor. http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=34.39634,132.473917&z=17 The food/liquor shops are located at the underground level of each department store. The liquor shop in Hondori Shopping Street also handles several kind of Hiroshima brand (Saijo) sake and Japanese whiskey: - Kawaguchiya ($B2O8}20(B) http://www.galilei.ne.jp/kawaguchiya/jizake_01.html (in Japanese) 5 minutes walk from the venue http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=34.392967,132.459766&z=17 -- Hiroyuki INOUE Graduate School of Information Sciences, Hiroshima City University From ole@cisco.com Thu Nov 12 15:49:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01A43A68A4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:49:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.577 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.577 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9mL3yRLInVkA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:49:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53573A6784 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:49:19 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAPYt/EqrRN+J/2dsb2JhbAC9S4EbCAGHfgmOeoJSgWoE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,732,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="431350139" Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.223.137]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2009 23:49:49 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nACNnnAF004974; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:49:49 GMT Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:49:06 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Haluska, John J" In-Reply-To: <8B6A9EC265011E4CB70F99C64426E8C20537FDB211@rrc-dte-exmb2.dte.telcordia.com> Message-ID: References: <8B6A9EC265011E4CB70F99C64426E8C20537FDB211@rrc-dte-exmb2.dte.telcordia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [76attendees] reservations for bus between Haneda and Narita? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:49:20 -0000 You do not need any kind of reservation, but note that you actually buy your ticket for a specific bus. So, the person selling you the ticket will say something like "Here is your ticket for the 4:15 bus, go to bus stop number 4." The folks who manage the buses outside will do the rest, including putting bags in the baggage compartment, giving you a luggage tag, showing you where to line up etc. If you somehow miss the bus you were supposed to be on, you'll need to get a new ticket. ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Haluska, John J wrote: > Does anyone know whether one actually needs to make reservations for > the bus between Haneda and Narita? I spoke with the concierge this > AM and he indicated that the bus runs about every 10 minutes, and > that he did not think a reservation is necessary. I'd be interested > to hear anyone's thoughts about this. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From dwing@fuggles.com Thu Nov 12 15:56:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947133A6784 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:56:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6Qain77v0rkj for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from willers.employees.org (willers.employees.org [IPv6:2001:1868:205::18]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576113A68BF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from willers.employees.org (localhost.employees.org [127.0.0.1]) by willers.employees.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD55DFD98E; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:56:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.21.77.53] (128-107-239-233.cisco.com [128.107.239.233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dwing) by willers.employees.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B181AFD778; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:56:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFCA0AF.7000309@fuggles.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:56:31 +0900 From: Dan Wing User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080213 Thunderbird/2.0.0.12 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shida Schubert References: <0CB16415-058B-477E-836C-5D5500F32E1B@cisco.com> <3F982A64-6393-4AC0-AA85-C3F32FCD1372@standardstrack.com> <870095D6-A0EF-4DB1-A45E-360526CBEEEA@ntt-at.com> In-Reply-To: <870095D6-A0EF-4DB1-A45E-360526CBEEEA@ntt-at.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Where is there the best Sushi? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:56:08 -0000 Shida Schubert wrote: > > If you don't mind paying the bucks I would recommend; > (Never tried myself but supposedly the best sushi place in town) > > Yoshi-zushi : http://tinyurl.com/ylxrt6w > > For a little less you can try > > Sakamoto-yaichibei : > Map: http://tinyurl.com/y8engmx > Website: http://www.ichibei.com/ > > For less you can try > > sushidining GAZAN : > Map: http://tinyurl.com/yehn28j We went to Gazan last night. It was Y9,500 for 2.5 of us, for the same quantity of sushi we enjoy in California for $120. The quality of the sushi in Gazan was far better than our sushi restaurant in California (Tomi-Sushi in Sunnyvale). They don't speak much English but the sushi chef speaks some english and it worked out very well. Three happy customers! Thanks, Shida! -d > And if you don't need the rice and want sashimi alone, > try the following. > > Sakana-ichiba : > Map: http://tinyurl.com/ygzybar > > You can get a whole live squid cut into sashimi, > it comes out alive and it's GOOD. > > Regards > Shida > > On Nov 11, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Eric Burger wrote: > >> Results for this query would not be pollution! >> >> On Nov 11, 2009, at 4:13 PM, David R Oran wrote: >> >>> any suggestions - I'm looking at a dinner rather than lunch venue. >>> >>> Feel free to unicast back if you don't want to further pollute the list. >>> >>> Thanks! Dave Oran. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 76attendees mailing list >>> 76attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > From warlord@pgp.com Thu Nov 12 15:57:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4313A6B16 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:57:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OgUKcNaH0uf9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:57:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from pgpeng.com (mail.pgpeng.com [216.112.105.75]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56D03A6AFB for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:57:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from keys.pgpeng.com (account derek [10.214.100.74] verified) by pgpeng.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTPSA id 5796685 for 76attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:57:53 -0800 Received: from pgpdev.ihtfp.org ([10.214.2.241]) by keys.pgpeng.com (PGP Universal service); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:57:53 -0800 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by keys.pgpeng.com on Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:57:53 -0800 Message-ID: <4AFCA0FE.3050608@pgp.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:57:50 -0500 From: Derek Atkins User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090825) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Reservations for Hiroshima Airport Bus? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:57:24 -0000 Does one need to pre-arrange a ticket for the Hiroshima airport bus? -derek -- Derek Atkins Principal Software Engineer PGP Corporation 4 Farragut Ave Somerville, MA 02144 +1 617 623 3745 | warlord@pgp.com PGP Corporation -- Rest Secured.(TM) PGP Fingerprint: 0FEE 5EA1 FF22 E0C9 4FFE 631A 9232 FF93 1C80 1DB7 This email and any attachments thereto may contain private, confidential, and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, copying, or distribution of this email (or any attachments thereto) by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copies of this email and any attachments thereto. From jmh@joelhalpern.com Thu Nov 12 15:57:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77833A6AF6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:57:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.54 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.059, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id miJZB4eFIHdX for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:57:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.mail.tigertech.net (hermes.mail.tigertech.net [64.62.209.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BBD43A6AF4 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:57:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D514303CF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:58:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hermes.tigertech.net Received: from [133.93.18.245] (host-18-245.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.18.245]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885F343039F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:58:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFCA123.3050300@joelhalpern.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:58:27 -0500 From: "Joel M. Halpern" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <0B2A00B8-3F08-42AB-A8D3-940C7C47EA1A@americafree.tv> In-Reply-To: <0B2A00B8-3F08-42AB-A8D3-940C7C47EA1A@americafree.tv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Sunday travel? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:57:59 -0000 Are there folks flying out of Kansai Sunday evening, who are going directly from Hiroshima? Traveling with others is always more pleasant. Thank you, Joel From eburger@standardstrack.com Thu Nov 12 16:02:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05B13A6AD9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:02:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.571 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.571 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.028, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FQk1Si6ZcGzT for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:02:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from gs19.inmotionhosting.com (gs19b.inmotionhosting.com [66.117.3.189]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F102E3A6863 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:02:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-40-25.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.40.25]) by gs19.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N8jdB-0006sF-8S; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:03:13 -0800 Message-Id: <5A361169-0DDF-4300-81D4-BF4138391843@standardstrack.com> From: Eric Burger To: Go Kawaguchi In-Reply-To: <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:03:14 +0900 References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs19.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] Futsal! X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:02:50 -0000 Go - Thank you so much for organizing the venue and ensuring we all knew how to get from here to there. We all had a wonderful time and appreciated your efforts to making our outings most enjoyable. -- - Eric From sone@isc.tohoku.ac.jp Thu Nov 12 16:08:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0068E3A6784 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:08:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.51 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l1rowRwJvfNt for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:08:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.tains.tohoku.ac.jp (mail2.tains.tohoku.ac.jp [130.34.11.101]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCA93A68EE for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from vchk2.tains.tohoku.ac.jp ([130.34.11.102]) by mail2.tains.tohoku.ac.jp (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-9.18 (built Jul 16 2009)) with ESMTP id <0KT0004RMTQXU990@mail2.tains.tohoku.ac.jp> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:08:57 +0900 (JST) Received: from [172.28.29.1] (sendai.rd.isc.tohoku.ac.jp [130.34.246.48]) by vchk2.tains.tohoku.ac.jp (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-9.18 (built Jul 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0KT000I1FTQQL600@vchk2.tains.tohoku.ac.jp> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:08:57 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:08:48 +0900 From: Hideaki Sone In-reply-to: <4AFC9EE7.9060605@pgp.com> To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-id: <4AFCA390.2050108@isc.tohoku.ac.jp> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <20091113082720.000f39d5@e-side.co.jp> <4AFC9EE7.9060605@pgp.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) Subject: Re: [76attendees] storing luggage at Hiroshima station X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:08:30 -0000 Derek Atkins wrote: >> Are there lockers or a left-baggage desk at the local train station? > > I'm 99% sure there is one. There seems to be luggage storage at every > Shinkansen stop that I've visited, so I don't see why Hiroshima would be > any different. If visiting Tokyo, please note that lockers in Tokyo area are not operating this week. -- Hideaki Sone, Tohoku University From spencer@wonderhamster.org Thu Nov 12 16:09:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986033A698D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:09:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.083 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.083 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.343, BAYES_20=-0.74] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5m9SI0NF6vmr for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24853A67E4 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from S73602b (host-16-87.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.87]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MC3mC-1Mzu2t1h20-009OZR; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:09:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: "Fred Baker" , "Jun Murai" References: <89E84427-ABC9-49BB-9398-DC5C7C4187B6@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:09:30 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+BqJ+Uf6VsUCnSH5KkhDc2vcwsenDDTh28Ql/ htxRHL8RQZCs9cG0s+B+D6xsIeUfgNlromodzdNUl6XZNexLi2 jiLYTeuSbx36uw0cSWiTOMY0D+vyhZE2UjpN+9mJC0= Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Thanks much X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:09:23 -0000 Totally agree with what Fred said, and wanted to add that I checked the weather before leaving Dallas two Mondays ago and the Hiroshima forecast was "cold and rainy every day", and it was a lot warmer and drier than the forecase - so I'd like to know how Jun pulled THAT off! :-) See you in Anaheim... Spencer From jo@netlab.tkk.fi Thu Nov 12 16:12:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD583A696C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:12:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yf53bWwxhsAS for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:12:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-3.hut.fi (smtp-3.hut.fi [130.233.228.93]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3B33A6AFF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:12:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (katosiko.hut.fi [130.233.228.115]) by smtp-3.hut.fi (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id nAD0DE1Y017569; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:13:14 +0200 Received: from smtp-3.hut.fi ([130.233.228.93]) by localhost (katosiko.hut.fi [130.233.228.115]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01555-392; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:13:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from smtp.netlab.hut.fi (luuri.netlab.hut.fi [130.233.154.177]) by smtp-3.hut.fi (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id nAD0D2oW017536; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:13:02 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.netlab.hut.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22C51E14A; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:13:01 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at luuri.netlab.hut.fi Received: from smtp.netlab.hut.fi ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (luuri.netlab.hut.fi [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id wk7wUOma0Oqf; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:12:57 +0200 (EET) Received: from host-24-241.meeting.ietf.org (host-24-241.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.241]) by smtp.netlab.hut.fi (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A12B61E00D; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:12:56 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4AFCA467.6010605@netlab.tkk.fi> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:12:23 +0200 From: Joerg Ott User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Burger References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <5A361169-0DDF-4300-81D4-BF4138391843@standardstrack.com> In-Reply-To: <5A361169-0DDF-4300-81D4-BF4138391843@standardstrack.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TKK-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.1.2-hutcc at katosiko.hut.fi Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal! X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:12:50 -0000 Really great. Thanks a lot! Joerg Eric Burger wrote: > Go - > > Thank you so much for organizing the venue and ensuring we all knew how > to get from here to there. We all had a wonderful time and appreciated > your efforts to making our outings most enjoyable. > > -- > - Eric > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From zartash@gmail.com Thu Nov 12 16:14:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650F93A681A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:14:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.976 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.976 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k7IcMfNaAuUH for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:14:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vw0-f193.google.com (mail-vw0-f193.google.com [209.85.212.193]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B213A698F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:14:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by vws31 with SMTP id 31so957327vws.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:14:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:reply-to:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=gspSY9POxcLLzs2SK9No7Qm3T0F618KeVqeMXEbOxj4=; b=Hj1xASUkbuIF7m4jPKzsoiLNNfFlCzqALmeDmqX/rx3Vq2JKjZBqregkh99W2MInKK 99L3brkHxnu24gfj8MNrazRaNptdqUYrFbR+DYX85xOvmpkDn8G3Dwsc9vuWGIKWn8aB JK5sPLXQNu2vvgWLW0Vh2zuXjmqLlVvhf8mSA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=OQZCtKo+ovdkiJ6oTcTSrD9pyHUkxqV2EQnM9Nc4p/Lwg+2AsjIcsvHaqv/XDCqU2r aCwWGiHl/UTxB7u4kVUH7/wNTUnOU6mtbK7YyI6xyRv29ILQ2mSJqsq/yX10ikA26N3w 315VuZe9aQL2v1Xg/In109duEnhps1ybr2RQc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: zartash@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.122.90 with SMTP id k26mr42512vcr.9.1258071295984; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:14:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AFCA123.3050300@joelhalpern.com> References: <0B2A00B8-3F08-42AB-A8D3-940C7C47EA1A@americafree.tv> <4AFCA123.3050300@joelhalpern.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:14:55 +0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ffd2f7a80f44e10d Message-ID: <4fff97de0911121614p14d37b13od386a9532a782e3d@mail.gmail.com> From: Zartash Uzmi To: "Joel M. Halpern" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636d34be9b303800478358c9c Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Sunday travel? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: zartash@stanfordalumni.org List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:14:38 -0000 --001636d34be9b303800478358c9c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I fly out of KIX on Sunday 11pm. I was thinking to go to Miyajima in the morning and then take a mid-afternoon train from Hiroshima to Kansai. What time were you planning to leave? I have also been advised to get the train tickets in advance (Saturdays are busy). Zartash On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > Are there folks flying out of Kansai Sunday evening, who are going directly > from Hiroshima? Traveling with others is always more pleasant. > > Thank you, > Joel > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > --001636d34be9b303800478358c9c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I fly out of KIX on Sunday 11pm. I was thinking to go to Miyajima in the mo= rning and then take a mid-afternoon train from Hiroshima to Kansai. What ti= me were you planning to leave? I have also been advised to get the train ti= ckets in advance (Saturdays are busy).

Zartash

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:58 = AM, Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
Are there folks flying out of Kansai Sunday evening, who are going directly= from Hiroshima? =A0Traveling with others is always more pleasant.

Thank you,
Joel

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--001636d34be9b303800478358c9c-- From bob.hinden@gmail.com Thu Nov 12 16:15:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D23B3A6A2A for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:15:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GmJJoq-bndLh for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:15:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16C83A68BF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 22so604310eye.47 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:15:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=O9r23vGcGCd0hi4rJmBp+aC/YqRBQCs3eB93Sk+qeI0=; b=Ocxx9cYyQNV58Kbx4vLCxBlVUJEa7m1p+JZ4CxoDbeQ9upF/plYccZf91TTdVgaXFw t0L/LCNEPkbUUX3ObOmhze2K544Ki8sKpvUeq9lk5rtCHovcqKHf+TfF8obkYBkNhycs lYxt7djCgMxd+dBGecVAJLICZvTn4pclimTaw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=jcwwiNHnMQ03eTTkv7DYzqjDkH/Fi4JKMu3Y8ZiwnS6KWaOsHtLjNt813YyrnXiHUt 08ivb6Diz9PRX7BOHMtwU5eo5K5pRYk8s+9xaY/H/p+SR8DP5bKvxhiIzTPx2cDG6ipM X8dH4iFS/k4InmfpJdqI8QL7Pj92OPp5daH1g= Received: by 10.213.0.154 with SMTP id 26mr2600947ebb.82.1258071342429; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:15:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-40-108.meeting.ietf.org (host-40-108.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.40.108]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm1080663eyf.2.2009.11.12.16.15.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:15:41 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:15:39 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9CD4342E-55B7-49DE-93EB-7DD7004ED7D0@gmail.com> References: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp> To: Rodney Van Meter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:15:17 -0000 Rod, I fully agree. This was a stellar meeting and I think it sets a new standard for all future meetings! Many thanks to Jun, the WIDE project, all of the sponsors, and everyone else who helped make this meeting a success. Bob On Nov 13, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Rodney Van Meter wrote: > I'm a member of the WIDE Project, but I get none of the credit for > making IETF such a success. I stand in awe especially of the NOC > team: Profs. Kato, Osamu Nakamura, and Shigechika from Keio, Prof. > Maeda from Hiroshima, Ray Atarashi from IIJ, and a long list of > students (including qoo, kudo, and tomine). Some of them prefer to > work in the background, but their work stands out. > > The city also went amazingly far out of its way. The "Welcome IETF" > signs on the streetcar platforms, the party, the PASPY, and > especially the city lights that made wandering the streets in the > evening so pleasant. I didn't try the bikes, and had no need of the > translator service (except possibly from Hiroshima dialect to Kanto > dialect :-), but those seemed to be wins, as well. > > The gang from e-side (Scott and Pres. Arai, and others whose names I > don't recall) certainly made it all work. > > And Jun Murai is, of course, The Man. ("What kind of sycophant are > you?" "What kind would you like?" to quote a movie.) > > For those of you who missed the social, my new hero: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadatoshi_Akiba > I've followed his peace work for years, but had no idea he has a > Ph.D. in math from MIT and taught in the U.S. for more than fifteen > years. > > Hope to see you in Anaheim! > > --Rod > > P.S. Do try to walk over to the dome and museum, if you haven't yet. > It's close, it's important, it's moving, it's sobering. It is, > however, not fun. > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From eburger@standardstrack.com Thu Nov 12 16:18:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110C73A67E4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:18:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.572 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.572 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.027, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GTdT7s1obRG9 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:18:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from gs19.inmotionhosting.com (gs19b.inmotionhosting.com [66.117.3.189]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B5F3A6863 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:18:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-40-25.meeting.ietf.org ([133.93.40.25]) by gs19.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N8jsd-0000sB-IA; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:19:11 -0800 Message-Id: From: Eric Burger To: Joel M. Halpern In-Reply-To: <4AFCA123.3050300@joelhalpern.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:19:07 +0900 References: <0B2A00B8-3F08-42AB-A8D3-940C7C47EA1A@americafree.tv> <4AFCA123.3050300@joelhalpern.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs19.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Sunday travel? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:18:49 -0000 Me. I have a 10:30am flight. Anyone else? On Nov 13, 2009, at 8:58 AM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > Are there folks flying out of Kansai Sunday evening, who are going > directly from Hiroshima? Traveling with others is always more > pleasant. > > Thank you, > Joel > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From jo@netlab.tkk.fi Thu Nov 12 16:19:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C4B3A6B20 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:19:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p2FoE3I5rwrj for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-1.hut.fi (smtp-1.hut.fi [130.233.228.91]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FB83A6B1C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:19:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (katosiko.hut.fi [130.233.228.115]) by smtp-1.hut.fi (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id nAD0KPQ4025003; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:20:25 +0200 Received: from smtp-1.hut.fi ([130.233.228.91]) by localhost (katosiko.hut.fi [130.233.228.115]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03206-16-12; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:20:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from smtp.netlab.hut.fi (luuri.netlab.hut.fi [130.233.154.177]) by smtp-1.hut.fi (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id nAD0K004024788; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:20:00 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.netlab.hut.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9451E14A; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:20:00 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at luuri.netlab.hut.fi Received: from smtp.netlab.hut.fi ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (luuri.netlab.hut.fi [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id OvA7PwfGV8oh; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:19:56 +0200 (EET) Received: from host-24-241.meeting.ietf.org (host-24-241.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.24.241]) by smtp.netlab.hut.fi (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1C1001E00D; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:19:54 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4AFCA60B.6080305@netlab.tkk.fi> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:19:23 +0200 From: Joerg Ott User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rodney Van Meter References: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TKK-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.1.2-hutcc at katosiko.hut.fi Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:19:59 -0000 Absolutely agreed. This was a great event in all respects! Thanks a lot! Joerg Rodney Van Meter wrote: > I'm a member of the WIDE Project, but I get none of the credit for > making IETF such a success. I stand in awe especially of the NOC team: > Profs. Kato, Osamu Nakamura, and Shigechika from Keio, Prof. Maeda from > Hiroshima, Ray Atarashi from IIJ, and a long list of students (including > qoo, kudo, and tomine). Some of them prefer to work in the background, > but their work stands out. > > The city also went amazingly far out of its way. The "Welcome IETF" > signs on the streetcar platforms, the party, the PASPY, and especially > the city lights that made wandering the streets in the evening so > pleasant. I didn't try the bikes, and had no need of the translator > service (except possibly from Hiroshima dialect to Kanto dialect :-), > but those seemed to be wins, as well. > > The gang from e-side (Scott and Pres. Arai, and others whose names I > don't recall) certainly made it all work. > > And Jun Murai is, of course, The Man. ("What kind of sycophant are > you?" "What kind would you like?" to quote a movie.) > > For those of you who missed the social, my new hero: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadatoshi_Akiba > I've followed his peace work for years, but had no idea he has a Ph.D. > in math from MIT and taught in the U.S. for more than fifteen years. > > Hope to see you in Anaheim! > > --Rod > > P.S. Do try to walk over to the dome and museum, if you haven't yet. > It's close, it's important, it's moving, it's sobering. It is, however, > not fun. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr Thu Nov 12 16:27:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFEB3A6784 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:27:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.683 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.683 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.083, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ez-JezskUAzY for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:27:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bortzmeyer.org (bortzmeyer-1-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f12:420::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8D128C136 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:27:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.bortzmeyer.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 8FC359542B; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:28:15 +0100 (CET) Received: by horcrux (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 62BE6157767; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:27:46 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:27:46 +0900 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: Zartash Uzmi Message-ID: <20091113002746.GA19720@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> References: <0B2A00B8-3F08-42AB-A8D3-940C7C47EA1A@americafree.tv> <4AFCA123.3050300@joelhalpern.com> <4fff97de0911121614p14d37b13od386a9532a782e3d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4fff97de0911121614p14d37b13od386a9532a782e3d@mail.gmail.com> X-Transport: UUCP rules X-Operating-System: Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Sunday travel? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:27:49 -0000 On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 05:14:55AM +0500, Zartash Uzmi wrote a message of 72 lines which said: > I have also been advised to get the train tickets in advance > (Saturdays are busy). Just a reminder: the JTB desk at the first floor of the ANA hotel can order train tickets. The service is efficient and they accept credit cards. No idea if it still works this afternoon. From scott.brim@gmail.com Thu Nov 12 16:32:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684DD28C11B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:32:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.044, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yRZrtyirGJWy for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f183.google.com (mail-yw0-f183.google.com [209.85.211.183]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B1A28B56A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywh13 with SMTP id 13so3184083ywh.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:32:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Sx2/Xdr5fquyAi7siiURkbFptXdJR5DWWWHht7uoHyE=; b=e4lARmNb5J4SH3IlZTm8kClt1kZDbriTJksK+Jw2JUjz3fmOkUNlhCY8S3RiMD+sDj BrFBjWCWPEjDl5JJJtAc3KSkkzNuzXJAyhwa3z486PInhePVXugguTu4a4Q/cXhWH8E9 fLltAxMbR9DIuNcU7qxTOATPtlX6sczrWnHXg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ZRFveYgdw1RFL/wJN2nZAuagwA1dbXH+xuF2eTnIeIhWqfZ3quVT9sPtPhtqF1+3GX g+PzhNhP+SCY1PPgH9QFDnTapg9pJ10pj8qKNfurKrfk8eCShEatP+KNe5VivzUEUoDx NGLwC8Muytj1HsQgiN7hA1yGRSj1i2ZYVM3rk= Received: by 10.150.59.12 with SMTP id h12mr6595047yba.39.1258072347537; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-24-56.meeting.ietf.org (198-135-0-233.cisco.com [198.135.0.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm1217674ywd.44.2009.11.12.16.32.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:32:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFCA916.9050501@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:32:22 +0900 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Burger References: <0B2A00B8-3F08-42AB-A8D3-940C7C47EA1A@americafree.tv> <4AFCA123.3050300@joelhalpern.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Sunday travel? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:32:01 -0000 Eric Burger allegedly wrote on 11/13/2009 9:19 AM: > Me. I have a 10:30am flight. Anyone else? Me, ANA KIX -> HKG From kato@wide.ad.jp Thu Nov 12 16:37:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DA03A6887 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:37:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5xXdsQiVBSi2 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:37:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp [IPv6:2001:200:167:2e90::164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D993A685A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:37:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:32:21f:3bff:fec6:73bd]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kmd.keio.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C035B7FE46 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:38:01 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by venice.nezu.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F8CE7D1D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:38:01 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:38:00 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091113.093800.205833059.kato@wide.ad.jp> To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Akira Kato X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [76attendees] Delivery from France X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:37:36 -0000 ANA Hotel received a delivery this morning. It doesn't specify the name of the recipient and sender at all, and just the destination indicated was the name of the hotel. It is light (less than 0.5kg) and the courier was Chronopost. The tracking number includes "1731" in the middle. If it is yours, plesae contact with the hotel reception. -- Akira Kato From wkumari@google.com Thu Nov 12 16:52:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2287A28C0FA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:52:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9Y1dRbWT8j5h for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:52:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out.google.com (smtp-out.google.com [216.239.45.13]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B6D28C0E6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:52:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from wpaz13.hot.corp.google.com (wpaz13.hot.corp.google.com [172.24.198.77]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id nAD0rEFS005788 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:53:14 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; t=1258073594; bh=JlTT4KDav1oR0JwFdo1tIVbxcB8=; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID:Subject:From: To:Cc:Content-Type; b=aV3Hn/PCgItrxNjW91n6NsigdAWliOxl8wqT+x3d3/E3LlLzhxzWrIK8qVIFTDVVl sMo+FS0Vx0fN00liZAg/g== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=beta; d=google.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to: cc:content-type:x-system-of-record; b=sD5g+imIN8qG2tLiHvO8fjl6g1CJezQ4/0w7RusDv+MgQ3xVc89Oe60UdedlyOQwc fsodBW8xOycpU7cKFpCqA== Received: from bwz24 (bwz24.prod.google.com [10.188.26.24]) by wpaz13.hot.corp.google.com with ESMTP id nAD0rBpJ009623 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:53:11 -0800 Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2904782bwz.30 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:53:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.74 with SMTP id v52mr1122026wee.124.1258073590702; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:53:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AFCA916.9050501@gmail.com> References: <0B2A00B8-3F08-42AB-A8D3-940C7C47EA1A@americafree.tv> <4AFCA123.3050300@joelhalpern.com> <4AFCA916.9050501@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:53:10 +0900 Message-ID: <41c05ea00911121653m74642fe9hf0c0f9a3cacbff03@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Kumari To: Scott Brim Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-System-Of-Record: true Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Sunday travel? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:52:46 -0000 I have a 7:55AM HIJ -> NRT flight on Sunday. The earliest bus gets there at 6:48, which is cutting it a little close for my liking -- anyone going on the same (or similar) flight and want to share a cab? W On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Scott Brim wrote: > Eric Burger allegedly wrote on 11/13/2009 9:19 AM: >> Me. I have a 10:30am flight. Anyone else? > > Me, ANA KIX -> HKG > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > -- Warren "Ace" Kumari Once again I am tying a new keyboard, so please excuse the even worse than usual typing! From qoo@sfc.wide.ad.jp Thu Nov 12 17:02:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E9D3A6961 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:02:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.904 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.904 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BVUrZy+leTFe for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:02:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AEB3A68BF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:02:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dfb::24:223:6cff:fe91:9927] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dfb:0:24:223:6cff:fe91:9927]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D08DA4C7BA; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:02:32 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <4FF7F955-B621-418B-92E7-808C17FBBDE5@sfc.wide.ad.jp> From: Katsuhiro Horiba To: Brian E Carpenter In-Reply-To: <4AFC89E0.7060000@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:02:32 +0900 References: <4AFC89E0.7060000@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] One more RFID database error... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:02:07 -0000 Brian, We investigated and fixed the problem. It was a human error. Person who delivered E-blue sheet reader to the Acacia West gave the wrong reader to the chair. So, people who attended the OPSAWG were regarded as SIMPLE at Acacia East. It means people who attended SIMPLE were having same problem. The data has been fixed now. Sorry for your inconvenience. Best Regards, Katsuhiro Horiba On 2009/11/13, at 7:19, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions WG > Acacia West > 2009-11-10 17:11:48 > > This is also wrong, I was in OPSAWG in Acacia East > > -- > Regards > Brian Carpenter > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From dykim6@gmail.com Thu Nov 12 17:04:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D910E3A6A65 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:04:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.715 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.715 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.262, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cV6AzWawvL+Q for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:04:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988C53A68BF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:04:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by pwi6 with SMTP id 6so1850654pwi.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:04:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=myOheMuMs43+8HXYjazpkdpitUmZ0Vq4s/p5zt7dsrs=; b=b1S+xaAgHt6+D/G7QAKBY1SNfBrjpI/K4ObmYYrd7hDESeFabV1ZCU7a52XlCxn1Cu cD3M7U5XE7S8ogIchWybE95ZgPWTNQealZpmyscMznOjRH9Q9JoPq5IZRePqtlwW5f0S 2+FqReoBfYTQDNBpsD0A+9KtEtfHbvhXQcIpw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=VTVd6fEeHX+auRSdQlcwoo2m8HrpDVmLfMadCNdMcfX7ekeHMpRxyTA1m1IaRHwpup d7nfcSGX6pcNvtALWdT5AlqxK8bdEDg+yzqb666xD6kYe9bs7YOZXGwzYXXjx8M4pzGC UA2VLrBgNjwQeiNFh/Dr6GBLgN13fJstBu/OY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: dykim6@gmail.com Received: by 10.143.26.36 with SMTP id d36mr411481wfj.217.1258074294608; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:04:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp> References: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:04:54 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0c932ac3944b5c5a Message-ID: <3938a04d0911121704v13222d00tf91624d46a1cd2f2@mail.gmail.com> From: Dae Young KIM To: Rodney Van Meter Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0add76e64170478363fde Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:04:28 -0000 --001636e0add76e64170478363fde Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Another showcase of what great things the WIDE team can do. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Rodney Van Meter wrote: > I'm a member of the WIDE Project, but I get none of the credit for making > IETF such a success. I stand in awe especially of the NOC team: Profs. > Kato, Osamu Nakamura, and Shigechika from Keio, Prof. Maeda from Hiroshima, > Ray Atarashi from IIJ, and a long list of students (including qoo, kudo, and > tomine). Some of them prefer to work in the background, but their work > stands out. > > The city also went amazingly far out of its way. The "Welcome IETF" signs > on the streetcar platforms, the party, the PASPY, and especially the city > lights that made wandering the streets in the evening so pleasant. I didn't > try the bikes, and had no need of the translator service (except possibly > from Hiroshima dialect to Kanto dialect :-), but those seemed to be wins, as > well. > > The gang from e-side (Scott and Pres. Arai, and others whose names I don't > recall) certainly made it all work. > > And Jun Murai is, of course, The Man. ("What kind of sycophant are you?" > "What kind would you like?" to quote a movie.) > > For those of you who missed the social, my new hero: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadatoshi_Akiba > I've followed his peace work for years, but had no idea he has a Ph.D. in > math from MIT and taught in the U.S. for more than fifteen years. > > Hope to see you in Anaheim! > > --Rod > > P.S. Do try to walk over to the dome and museum, if you haven't yet. It's > close, it's important, it's moving, it's sobering. It is, however, not fun. > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > -- Regards, DY http://cnu.kr/~dykim --001636e0add76e64170478363fde Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another showcase of what great things the WIDE team can do.

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Rodney Van Meter <rdv@sfc.wide.ad.jp> wrote:
I'm a member = of the WIDE Project, but I get none of the credit for making IETF such a su= ccess. =A0I stand in awe especially of the NOC team: Profs. Kato, Osamu Nak= amura, and Shigechika from Keio, Prof. Maeda from Hiroshima, Ray Atarashi f= rom IIJ, and a long list of students (including qoo, kudo, and tomine). =A0= Some of them prefer to work in the background, but their work stands out.
The city also went amazingly far out of its way. =A0The "Welcome IETF&= quot; signs on the streetcar platforms, the party, the PASPY, and especiall= y the city lights that made wandering the streets in the evening so pleasan= t. =A0I didn't try the bikes, and had no need of the translator service= (except possibly from Hiroshima dialect to Kanto dialect :-), but those se= emed to be wins, as well.

The gang from e-side (Scott and Pres. Arai, and others whose names I don= 9;t recall) certainly made it all work.

And Jun Murai is, of course, The Man. =A0("What kind of sycophant are = you?" =A0"What kind would you like?" to quote a movie.)

For those of you who missed the social, my new hero:
= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadatoshi_Akiba
I've followed his peace work for years, but had no idea he has a Ph.D. = in math from MIT and taught in the U.S. for more than fifteen years.

Hope to see you in Anaheim!

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--Rod

P.S. Do try to walk over to the dome and museum, if you haven't yet. It= 's close, it's important, it's moving, it's sobering. =A0It= is, however, not fun.


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--001636e0add76e64170478363fde-- From tony.li@tony.li Thu Nov 12 17:15:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1577228C120 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:15:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.31 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.31 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.289, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7oEsqzNGrlFA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from QMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE7F28C0FC for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from OMTA18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.74]) by QMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4R8x1d0051bwxycABRE8Wv; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:14:08 +0000 Received: from [133.93.40.62] ([133.93.40.62]) by OMTA18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4RPc1d00R1LTvmD8eRPf1w; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:23:51 +0000 Message-ID: <4AFCB343.6020106@tony.li> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:15:47 -0800 From: Tony Li User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephane Bortzmeyer References: <0B2A00B8-3F08-42AB-A8D3-940C7C47EA1A@americafree.tv> <4AFCA123.3050300@joelhalpern.com> <4fff97de0911121614p14d37b13od386a9532a782e3d@mail.gmail.com> <20091113002746.GA19720@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> In-Reply-To: <20091113002746.GA19720@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Sunday travel? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:15:36 -0000 Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 05:14:55AM +0500, > Zartash Uzmi wrote > a message of 72 lines which said: > >> I have also been advised to get the train tickets in advance >> (Saturdays are busy). > > Just a reminder: the JTB desk at the first floor of the ANA hotel can > order train tickets. The service is efficient and they accept credit > cards. No idea if it still works this afternoon. +1 And there's no surcharge. Tony From adam@nostrum.com Thu Nov 12 17:19:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C333A68BF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:19:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.402 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.402 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.198, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1nLnl6G+1z0h for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:19:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B08D3A6358 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:19:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from host-16-62.meeting.ietf.org (host-16-62.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.62]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAD1JT5P067965 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:19:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <4AFCB421.7060904@nostrum.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:19:29 +0900 From: Adam Roach User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20090915 Thunderbird/3.0b4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tony Li References: <0B2A00B8-3F08-42AB-A8D3-940C7C47EA1A@americafree.tv> <4AFCA123.3050300@joelhalpern.com> <4fff97de0911121614p14d37b13od386a9532a782e3d@mail.gmail.com> <20091113002746.GA19720@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> <4AFCB343.6020106@tony.li> In-Reply-To: <4AFCB343.6020106@tony.li> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 133.93.16.62 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Sunday travel? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:19:05 -0000 I tried it this morning, and they were telling everyone to go to the train station to purchase tickets. I think they're effectively closed for the week. /a On 11/13/09 10:15 AM, Tony Li wrote: > Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 05:14:55AM +0500, >> Zartash Uzmi wrote a message of 72 >> lines which said: >> >>> I have also been advised to get the train tickets in advance >>> (Saturdays are busy). >> >> Just a reminder: the JTB desk at the first floor of the ANA hotel can >> order train tickets. The service is efficient and they accept credit >> cards. No idea if it still works this afternoon. > > > +1 > > And there's no surcharge. > > Tony > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From charliep@computer.org Thu Nov 12 17:19:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954D33A6954 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:19:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FefC1LBvz75m for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:19:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240A83A6808 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:19:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [133.93.20.35] by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1N8kpU-0004LU-Kw; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:20:01 -0500 Message-ID: <4AFCB43F.2080707@computer.org> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:19:59 -0800 From: "Charles E. Perkins" Organization: Wichorus Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 137d7d78656ed6919973fd6a8f21c4f2d780f4a490ca6956abb457f1b4332f5211f45a67102f6fd5ed3fa8fbe73b8dcc350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 133.93.20.35 Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: charliep@computer.org List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:19:33 -0000 Hello folks, I usually don't make emails just to say "Me Too", but in this case the level of service was so excellent that I couldn't avoid joining the chorus. Hiroshima is indeed enchanting. I will try to find reasons to return, and I hope it can be during the time of the Dreamination. I wish the citizens of Hiroshima good fortune while traveling along the path to their dreams of peace. Regards, Charlie P. Rodney Van Meter wrote: > I'm a member of the WIDE Project, but I get none of the credit for > making IETF such a success. I stand in awe especially of the NOC > team: Profs. Kato, Osamu Nakamura, and Shigechika from Keio, Prof. > Maeda from Hiroshima, Ray Atarashi from IIJ, and a long list of > students (including qoo, kudo, and tomine). Some of them prefer to > work in the background, but their work stands out. > > The city also went amazingly far out of its way. The "Welcome IETF" > signs on the streetcar platforms, the party, the PASPY, and especially > the city lights that made wandering the streets in the evening so > pleasant. I didn't try the bikes, and had no need of the translator > service (except possibly from Hiroshima dialect to Kanto dialect :-), > but those seemed to be wins, as well. > > The gang from e-side (Scott and Pres. Arai, and others whose names I > don't recall) certainly made it all work. > > And Jun Murai is, of course, The Man. ("What kind of sycophant are > you?" "What kind would you like?" to quote a movie.) > > For those of you who missed the social, my new hero: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadatoshi_Akiba > I've followed his peace work for years, but had no idea he has a Ph.D. > in math from MIT and taught in the U.S. for more than fifteen years. > > Hope to see you in Anaheim! > > --Rod > > P.S. Do try to walk over to the dome and museum, if you haven't yet. > It's close, it's important, it's moving, it's sobering. It is, > however, not fun. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com Thu Nov 12 17:19:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC57A28C16D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:19:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.488 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.488 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.111, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZAgR9elkCWfS for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:19:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f192.google.com (mail-yx0-f192.google.com [209.85.210.192]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF7528C15E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:19:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so3019836yxe.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:20:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=drKfc7AyLhFMef3m0cHATRlR7MScJe2VaMOf25UlIxY=; b=qUpRZAzY1tNnK+YAEnOK8wQAo/3kzCVYyp3FJgxtG+R+68iJuBhwSJ+YqWM4o+kIfs fUj77HTKRjZUtCovF4+ICIFYhVwlAqLuzVuB259sH97IwXwOj7zl3HwYmPBnyAR6k43l EF3ZS7cdegWTuaSYxQxiHgeTeoRxM+YUI477w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=pJxI2rCYHsvl1C6pBLYeChtwIe9p4/MuDexksl+zmCx/j8+saOt1GkgdVcGkJHCq8Y v1LPAznN0bBhlcFT8+z9BM7fhNNw1BTcqDH/fWkVo47uW5BwyRzcsEmyvYB/RN7RveCE 88Isuv07Vhg06/M/HFR9KLdxscEfPuLUVQMbY= Received: by 10.150.37.40 with SMTP id k40mr6565856ybk.254.1258075213747; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?133.93.16.203? (host-16-203.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.16.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm502444gxk.11.2009.11.12.17.20.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:20:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFCB411.40402@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:19:13 +1300 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Katsuhiro Horiba References: <4AFC89E0.7060000@gmail.com> <4FF7F955-B621-418B-92E7-808C17FBBDE5@sfc.wide.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: <4FF7F955-B621-418B-92E7-808C17FBBDE5@sfc.wide.ad.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] One more RFID database error... X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:19:47 -0000 Thanks! I enjoyed the RFID experiment. Regards Brian Carpenter On 2009-11-13 14:02, Katsuhiro Horiba wrote: > Brian, > > We investigated and fixed the problem. 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(host-18-33.meeting.ietf.org [133.93.18.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm536870gxk.3.2009.11.12.18.53.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:53:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFCCA2B.9000402@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:53:31 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joerg Ott References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <5A361169-0DDF-4300-81D4-BF4138391843@standardstrack.com> <4AFCA467.6010605@netlab.tkk.fi> In-Reply-To: <4AFCA467.6010605@netlab.tkk.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal! X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:53:02 -0000 Joerg, Eric Olafur, Dave, Jean, Jinmei-san, Martin, Costin, Gregory, ... and All the Futsal / Soccer freaks are welcome! I really enjoyed playing that with you. I have influenced my computer's stance, kinda spirit, by many folks, mates are enthusiastic to improve their careers, life and the Net society, motivating by themselves. I hope I could meet the other conference venue or other opportunity again. Take care of your voyage. Go From: Joerg Ott Date: Fri Nov 13 2009 09:12:23 GMT+0900 > Really great. Thanks a lot! > > Joerg > > Eric Burger wrote: >> Go - >> >> Thank you so much for organizing the venue and ensuring we all knew >> how to get from here to there. We all had a wonderful time and >> appreciated your efforts to making our outings most enjoyable. >> >> -- >> - Eric From shimshamshimmy@gmail.com Thu Nov 12 19:40:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750EE28C0E6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:40:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, GB_I_LETTER=-2] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qt2x0aqkSdFX for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gx0-f228.google.com (mail-gx0-f228.google.com [209.85.217.228]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A603A69A4 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so893386gxk.9 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:40:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-type; bh=H7rKvXBSqvSAtgc7FWnodAm4aceYWBOWdpM1pUWJ6qQ=; b=O2qyBginnU4Rf2dR9qGlPyFhyWSZaXOlxhUIQ4TlguP2leYieFfS0n7kdwIxRf8Xu3 NSW9OjexLZTPFMNtnwAm/j59XFiukwwpUx84zKCnupGvflSxF+0gm9/txBdX0ERX7PB6 YQyeQV06iCpc/i+woRQPFRQJtTPYy5Z0p6Ado= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; b=lImD0cagSbuti8Wfmno7T3PHTZuLgs95bmM++C/ByayVTJZYtngqmm8aWXUujZvqbr UBW94fpVwmgbmsewc2FeDdDcI8LH96bRDGTUnvRHqfZM70nzTxUKXwhD/u66hIycbeqM TXPfANAWHsRD+miVfTA/QVQrdyFpXoDFuKJiI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: shimshamshimmy@gmail.com Received: by 10.101.149.3 with SMTP id b3mr4195312ano.115.1258083637062; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:40:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <89E84427-ABC9-49BB-9398-DC5C7C4187B6@cisco.com> References: <89E84427-ABC9-49BB-9398-DC5C7C4187B6@cisco.com> From: Jun Murai Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:40:16 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ae6116ce62d3a511 Message-ID: To: Fred Baker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Thanks much X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:40:11 -0000 Fred and all the attendees of IETF76 Hiroshima conference, First of all, thank you very much for this message. This is the words of music which fills all the people who have been working for this conference with pride, joy and peace. A diving catch is a risk. I am requesting myself total humility for the further process to review this version of it. But besides that, I am very much proud of and appreciated all the contributions of people and the city of Hiroshima, sponsors, e-side, students, hotels, NOC, WIDE people, ISOC, IAOC, and others who actually did the work. Finally, the real award of mine goes to you, the 76atendees, thank you again for coming to Hiroshima! See you all soon. Hope you have a safe trip home! Arigato, Jun Murai On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Fred Baker wrote: > Jun: > > The IAOC has drafted a letter to the mayor, which will be delivered to the > vice-mayor tomorrow. I want to take an opportunity to thank you and your > team personally for your involvement in hosting the IETF, and for the very > fine event that it has been. > > I sent a note to the NOC team earlier in the week. We invariably seem to > have issues in the network, which is a little embarrassing given that we are > a networking organization - it's the cobbler's shoes that pinch. Per the > measurements I have made this week, the network has been among the most > stable, predictable, and reliable among IETF meetings in my memory, and my > memory goes back almost to the founding of WIDE. > > The city is gorgeous. We have been to some nice places - I like Prague, the > museum in Paris is wonderful, Amsterdam is full of life. But Hiroshima, in > my estimation, ranks among the most beautiful and friendly cities we have > visited. What other city has changed its annual program just because we > came? How many are as pleasant and safe? > > The hotels have been comfortable, the staff friendly and helpful, and the > restaurants inexpensive and good. > > I am aware, as you are, that this was a diving catch on your part. You and > the people of Japan have been good friends to the IETF, over and above the > call of duty. > > Thank you, good friend. We are in your debt. > > Fred Baker > From jinmei@isc.org Fri Nov 13 00:44:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB643A68F5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:44:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.651 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.651 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.050, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mtt3QXM3mb9O for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:44:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mon.jinmei.org (mon.jinmei.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:36::162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74DE23A67CF for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:44:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from jmb.jinmei.org (NWTcd-04p9-188.ppp11.odn.ad.jp [219.67.44.188]) by mon.jinmei.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 5C3C033C37; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:44:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:44:27 +0900 Message-ID: From: JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= To: Eric Burger In-Reply-To: <5A361169-0DDF-4300-81D4-BF4138391843@standardstrack.com> References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <5A361169-0DDF-4300-81D4-BF4138391843@standardstrack.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/22.1 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal! X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:44:08 -0000 At Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:03:14 +0900, Eric Burger wrote: > Thank you so much for organizing the venue and ensuring we all knew > how to get from here to there. We all had a wonderful time and > appreciated your efforts to making our outings most enjoyable. Indeed, if I couldn't have got his help, it would be much poorly organized. I thought we had a post futsal dinner with Kawaguchi-san, where we could show our gratitude to him (with some free beer or something), but it was pity that I couldn't make it. Hopefully we'll have another opportunity someday:-) Again, thanks, --- JINMEI, Tatuya Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. From bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr Fri Nov 13 01:51:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F3C28B797 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:51:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.077, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oaFQUlatIhop for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bortzmeyer.org (bortzmeyer-1-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f12:420::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1D13A69E5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.bortzmeyer.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id B2A53954E8; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:52:07 +0100 (CET) Received: by horcrux (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 474A9157767; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:48:54 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:48:54 +0900 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <20091113094854.GA11611@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> References: <6732F6E7-09F1-4546-91DC-B4ED13A9819F@daedelus.com> <25A3DB4CC2F5453F86DF87CAEFBC5CAA@china.huawei.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <25A3DB4CC2F5453F86DF87CAEFBC5CAA@china.huawei.com> X-Transport: UUCP rules X-Operating-System: Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: [76attendees] Network Tear Down X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:51:40 -0000 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 05:30:10PM +0900, Spencer Dawkins wrote a message of 22 lines which said: > You have NO IDEA how pleasantly surprised I was to see the IETF > wireless network pop up on Saturday night (intermittently, but > steadily on Sunday morning). Indeed, now that we are back to normal in the hotels, we can appreciate the work which was done by the NOC. At the Mitsui Garden, private IPv4 address, no IPv6 and complete network failure every five minutes. What a change! So, thanks for taking over the network of the overflow hotels. From mehmet.ersue@nsn.com Fri Nov 13 02:04:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C63F3A69CB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:04:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.651 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.651 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.053, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sNxIRa2tm6HP for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:04:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (demumfd001.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.32]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083063A69BC for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:04:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.56]) by demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id nADA4We6014240 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:04:32 +0100 Received: from demuexc024.nsn-intra.net (demuexc024.nsn-intra.net [10.159.32.11]) by demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id nADA4R5i010971 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:04:32 +0100 Received: from DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.128.18]) by demuexc024.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:04:28 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA6448.AF7AC3A8" Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:04:26 +0100 Message-ID: <80A0822C5E9A4440A5117C2F4CD36A6416DF80@DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Cab to HIJ: Flight at 7:55 on 11/17 ? Thread-Index: AcpkSK6hPcdsD+ktTwqCpNrOqdNwYw== From: "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" To: <76attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2009 10:04:28.0111 (UTC) FILETIME=[AFAACDF0:01CA6448] Subject: [76attendees] Cab to HIJ: Flight at 7:55 on 11/17 ? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:04:06 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA6448.AF7AC3A8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anybody, who takes a few extra days here and wants to share a=20 cab to HIJ for the flight at 7:55 on 11/17 ? Cheers, Mehmet ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA6448.AF7AC3A8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cab to HIJ: Flight at 7:55 on 11/17 ?

Anybody, who takes a few extra days = here and wants to share a
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------_=_NextPart_001_01CA6448.AF7AC3A8-- From wkumari@google.com Fri Nov 13 02:44:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354623A677E for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:44:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yvupq80zKpOB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:44:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out.google.com (smtp-out.google.com [216.239.45.13]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FCD3A6778 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from zps78.corp.google.com (zps78.corp.google.com [172.25.146.78]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id nADAiutr007533 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:44:57 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; t=1258109097; bh=OodM4hSRNJhCPoZoaRehSXnarRs=; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID:Subject:From: To:Cc:Content-Type; b=opWVPJkTBY5fi3H+QxQfYtOl6flDeN/paV5GpRV9sTNJGqDudrujPtoDoPPpb4lbm P/c3fIA/QLBuJ36e7Qe1g== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=beta; d=google.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to: cc:content-type:x-system-of-record; b=G9mtuTy0+zeydhdFXPi94O/fRDEtSs3dGLENZYnkzk7b7uVmRiADecB8cs2RLx9eG HMo7D/BSvBz1C3Qtm/5lQ== Received: from fxm24 (fxm24.prod.google.com [10.184.13.24]) by zps78.corp.google.com with ESMTP id nADAiq6E022053 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:44:54 -0800 Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so3321696fxm.11 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:44:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.72 with SMTP id v50mr1253027wee.184.1258109092505; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:44:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <80A0822C5E9A4440A5117C2F4CD36A6416DF80@DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net> References: <80A0822C5E9A4440A5117C2F4CD36A6416DF80@DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:44:52 +0900 Message-ID: <41c05ea00911130244s28e950dds3dabdbd4484c7044@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Kumari To: "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-System-Of-Record: true Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Cab to HIJ: Flight at 7:55 on 11/17 ? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:44:29 -0000 Well, I'm going to be getting that same flight, but on 11/15.... If you want to share a cab (and spend 2 days sitting in the airport!) that would be cool --- and, hey, you would be super early for your checkin... On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich) wrote: > > Anybody, who takes a few extra days here and wants to share a > cab to HIJ for the flight at 7:55 on 11/17 ? > > Cheers, > Mehmet > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > -- Warren "Ace" Kumari Once again I am tying a new keyboard, so please excuse the even worse than usual typing! From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Fri Nov 13 05:14:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462113A6A29 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:14:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.427 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.427 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sKzBG36MQobF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:14:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.sri.com (newmail.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226773A6A10 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:14:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [10.11.1.17] ([unknown] [123.223.213.12]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KT10017KU4XKMA0@mail.sri.com> for 76attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:14:59 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <4AFD5BCD.2070807@sri.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:14:53 +0900 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] more network praise X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:14:32 -0000 I'm on the ANA hotel network tonight, and it is quite apparent that the magic dust sprinkled by the NOC has worn off. It has turned back into a pumpkin. it's been said many times, but bears repeating. The extra effort the NOC takes to reinforce the hotel network against the hordes of netizens is very important. Rather than crushing the hotel "casual user" service model network, we get excellent performance. Sorry to see them go on Friday. -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com From sfaibish@emc.com Fri Nov 13 05:30:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C943A6844 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:30:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HXeNIYl6xFsG for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:30:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mexforward.lss.emc.com (mexforward.lss.emc.com [128.222.32.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3943C3A68C6 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:30:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from hop04-l1d11-si03.isus.emc.com (HOP04-L1D11-SI03.isus.emc.com [10.254.111.23]) by mexforward.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.3.2/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id nADDUdvQ025417 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:30:39 -0500 Received: from mailhub.lss.emc.com (nagas.lss.emc.com [10.254.144.15]) by hop04-l1d11-si03.isus.emc.com (RSA Interceptor); Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:30:27 -0500 Received: from usensfaibisl2e.eng.emc.com (USGSKIZHAUL2C.corp.emc.com [10.13.8.104]) by mailhub.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.3.2mp/Switch-3.3.2mp) with ESMTP id nADDUMGB023878; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:30:23 -0500 To: "Warren Kumari" , "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" From: sfaibish Organization: EMC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <80A0822C5E9A4440A5117C2F4CD36A6416DF80@DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net> <41c05ea00911130244s28e950dds3dabdbd4484c7044@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:30:24 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <41c05ea00911130244s28e950dds3dabdbd4484c7044@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.10 (Win32) X-EMM-EM: Active Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Cab to HIJ: Flight at 7:55 on 11/17 ? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:30:15 -0000 I will take a cab for 11/15. If you want to share will be good. Cheers, Sorin On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:44:52 -0500, Warren Kumari wrote: > Well, I'm going to be getting that same flight, but on 11/15.... > > If you want to share a cab (and spend 2 days sitting in the airport!) > that would be cool --- and, hey, you would be super early for your > checkin... > > > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich) > wrote: >> >> Anybody, who takes a few extra days here and wants to share a >> cab to HIJ for the flight at 7:55 on 11/17 ? >> >> Cheers, >> Mehmet >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> >> > > > -- Best Regards Sorin Faibish Corporate Distinguished Engineer Network Storage Group EMC² where information lives Phone: 508-435-1000 x 48545 Cellphone: 617-510-0422 Email : sfaibish@emc.com From shrirao@cisco.com Fri Nov 13 06:01:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6073A685D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:01:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cepwjH4zxkRs for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:01:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com (sj-iport-5.cisco.com [171.68.10.87]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62DE3A6844 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:01:21 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-5.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAPP0/EqrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbAC9DYkiCY8FglKBagSCaw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,737,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="103972387" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2009 14:01:51 +0000 Received: from xbh-bgl-412.cisco.com (xbh-bgl-412.cisco.com [72.163.129.202]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nADE1oIV004901; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:01:51 GMT Received: from xmb-bgl-416.cisco.com ([72.163.129.212]) by xbh-bgl-412.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:31:49 +0530 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:31:46 +0530 Message-ID: In-reply-to: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] RFID and toilets Thread-Index: AcpjvAJ5p3S4jXyq/06F2SjO5/wINQArWBHw References: From: "Shridhar Rao (shrirao)" To: "Stephan Wenger" , "Ole Jacobsen (ole)" , "Randall Gellens" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2009 14:01:49.0610 (UTC) FILETIME=[D84318A0:01CA6469] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and toilets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:01:22 -0000 So first you install these toilets, then you put them on Smart Grid (because they use power) and then the Smart grid tells you When To use Them so that power is optimally used... Very cool! -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stephan Wenger Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:17 AM To: Ole Jacobsen (ole); Randall Gellens Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and toilets Interesting discussion. I have Toto Jasmine add-on bides in my house; they're less than $1000, you can self-install if there is a GFIed plug in the neighborhood and if you can operate a wrench and a screwdriver. Definitely a choice when remodeling a bathroom and be able to install a plug close to the toilet. Stephan http://www.bathroomfurnituredirect.com/asp/superbrowse.asp?clid=3D695&cai= d =3D&sk u=3DTOT3279&refid=3DXT98-TOT3279 On 11/13/09 1:09 AM, "Ole Jacobsen" wrote: >=20 > Not to brag but: The Toto in my room automatically raises the lid when > I enter the room, automatically flushes afterwards and then closes the > lid. I don't think it can be programmed to detect gender, but you can=20 > probably set it to raise both lid and seat, which currently has to be=20 > opened by push of the remote control on the wall. >=20 > I've looked into getting a "real" Toto Washlet in the US, and it's=20 > around $3,000 installed, but there are cheaper alternatives. >=20 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan >=20 > Ole >=20 >=20 > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From ogud@ogud.com Fri Nov 13 14:41:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE2A3A67AE for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:41:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.145, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A4HboyldTMvY for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7878C3A67AA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from Puki.ogud.com (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nADMfOXp012869; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:41:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) Message-Id: <200911132241.nADMfOXp012869@stora.ogud.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:41:21 -0500 To: Warren Kumari , Scott Brim From: Olafur Gudmundsson In-Reply-To: <41c05ea00911121653m74642fe9hf0c0f9a3cacbff03@mail.gmail.co m> References: <0B2A00B8-3F08-42AB-A8D3-940C7C47EA1A@americafree.tv> <4AFCA123.3050300@joelhalpern.com> <4AFCA916.9050501@gmail.com> <41c05ea00911121653m74642fe9hf0c0f9a3cacbff03@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Sunday travel? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:41:06 -0000 Based on my experience this morning that is sufficient time. there are only 3 early morning flights leaving from the airport. Olafur At 19:53 12/11/2009, Warren Kumari wrote: >I have a 7:55AM HIJ -> NRT flight on Sunday. The earliest bus gets >there at 6:48, which is cutting it a little close for my liking -- >anyone going on the same (or similar) flight and want to share a cab? > >W > >On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Scott Brim wrote: > > Eric Burger allegedly wrote on 11/13/2009 9:19 AM: > >> Me. I have a 10:30am flight. Anyone else? > > > > Me, ANA KIX -> HKG > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > > > >-- > >Warren "Ace" Kumari >Once again I am tying a new keyboard, so please excuse the even worse >than usual typing! >_______________________________________________ >76attendees mailing list >76attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From ogud@ogud.com Fri Nov 13 14:46:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0EB3A6831 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:46:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.142, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id covSxrcCHEVo for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:46:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDF53A659C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:46:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from Puki.ogud.com (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nADMkbvR012931; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:46:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) Message-Id: <200911132246.nADMkbvR012931@stora.ogud.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:44:30 -0500 To: Go Kawaguchi , Joerg Ott From: Olafur Gudmundsson In-Reply-To: <4AFCCA2B.9000402@gmail.com> References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <5A361169-0DDF-4300-81D4-BF4138391843@standardstrack.com> <4AFCA467.6010605@netlab.tkk.fi> <4AFCCA2B.9000402@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Futsal! X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:46:10 -0000 At 21:53 12/11/2009, Go Kawaguchi wrote: >Joerg, Eric >Olafur, Dave, Jean, Jinmei-san, Martin, Costin, Gregory, ... >and All the Futsal / Soccer freaks are welcome! > >I really enjoyed playing that with you. Ditto, this was lots of fun, as this was our 3'rd bof I guess we need ask to become a WG by Anaheim :-) But expect the charter to be published on the earliest day in April. Olafur From jinmei@isc.org Fri Nov 13 15:45:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938473A67A8 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:45:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YxlpSQeoe4Hu for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:45:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mon.jinmei.org (mon.jinmei.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:36::162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6013A6768 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:45:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from jmb.jinmei.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb:217:f2ff:fee0:a91f]) by mon.jinmei.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6E2C133C37; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:45:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:45:32 -0800 Message-ID: From: JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= To: Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=F6hricht?= In-Reply-To: <4AFC1249.5000205@tm.uka.de> References: <200910271237.n9RCbuWh084334@stora.ogud.com> <5079E52C-9480-4CAB-ABF2-AB24E63C7AEB@standardstrack.com> <4AEAE067.9060902@gmail.com> <1257275228.28994.41.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil> <4AF21657.2080702@gmail.com> <4AF4F014.5030007@gmail.com> <13B53875-62F8-41BF-827F-58F5CC11CE23@standardstrack.com> <200911080150.nA81oaDc069962@stora.ogud.com> <4AF62C7F.5070300@gmail.com> <4af64481.100bca0a.5613.286d@mx.google.com> <4AF64B48.5090706@gmail.com> <4af64ddd.1602be0a.3aab.3789@mx.google.com> <4AF653C9.9050001@gmail.com> <4AF68E5E.9060103@ee.ucl.ac.uk> <4AFA4A65.7020707@gmail.com> <4AFA649E.8040807@gmail.com> <4AFBB56F.1030306@gmail.com> <4AFBD58C.5050102@gmail.com> <4AFC1249.5000205@tm.uka.de> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/22.1 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Soccer team picture X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:45:06 -0000 At Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:48:57 +0900, Martin R=F6hricht wrote: > I uploaded a team picture of some of our tonight's brave soccer players. = > Apperently I messed up on the photo which is somewhat blurred. Perhaps=20 > one of the other photographers did a better job and can post a link to=20 > their results, too. I really enjoyed playing with you. >=20 > Anyway, here is the link:=20 > http://www.roehricht.info/galleries/2009-11-12-Hiroshima-soccer-team.jpg I've uploaded mine at: http://www.jinmei.org/photo/20091112/_B120109.JPG --- JINMEI, Tatuya Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. From sfaibish@comcast.net Fri Nov 13 16:35:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A1D3A6890 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:35:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.288 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.288 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.309, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I7rbh-3Dp7LU for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:35:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from QMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.243]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD853A681A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:35:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from OMTA23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by QMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4oU81d0031c6gX85DobmBm; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:35:46 +0000 Received: from sz0036.wc.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.58.86]) by OMTA23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4ojQ1d00C1rdXlG3jojQnL; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:43:24 +0000 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:35:45 +0000 (UTC) From: sfaibish@comcast.net To: Olafur Gudmundsson Message-ID: <1218277366.3851111258158945298.JavaMail.root@sz0036a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <200911132241.nADMfOXp012869@stora.ogud.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_191840_11955391.1258158945297" X-Originating-IP: [123.223.213.12] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.18_GA_3076.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/5.0.18_GA_3076.RHEL5_64) Cc: Scott Brim , 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Sunday travel? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:35:17 -0000 ------=_Part_191840_11955391.1258158945297 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If anybody wants to join me I will take the taxi at 5:00 AM. Welcome to joi= n.=20 /Sorin=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Olafur Gudmundsson" =20 To: "Warren Kumari" , "Scott Brim" =20 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org=20 Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 5:41:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern=20 Subject: Re: [76attendees] Sunday travel?=20 Based on my experience this morning that is sufficient time.=20 there are only 3 early morning flights leaving from the=20 airport.=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Olafur=20 At 19:53 12/11/2009, Warren Kumari wrote:=20 >I have a 7:55AM =C2=A0HIJ =C2=A0-> NRT flight on Sunday. The earliest bus = gets=20 >there at 6:48, which is cutting it a little close for my liking --=20 >anyone going on the same (or similar) flight and want to share a cab?=20 >=20 >W=20 >=20 >On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Scott Brim wrote:= =20 > > Eric Burger allegedly wrote on 11/13/2009 9:19 AM:=20 > >> Me. I have a 10:30am flight. Anyone else?=20 > >=20 > > Me, ANA KIX -> HKG=20 > >=20 > > _______________________________________________=20 > > 76attendees mailing list=20 > > 76attendees@ietf.org=20 > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >--=20 >=20 >Warren "Ace" Kumari=20 >Once again I am tying a new keyboard, so please excuse the even worse=20 >than usual typing!=20 >_______________________________________________=20 >76attendees mailing list=20 >76attendees@ietf.org=20 >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees=20 _______________________________________________=20 76attendees mailing list=20 76attendees@ietf.org=20 https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees=20 ------=_Part_191840_11955391.1258158945297 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>

If any= body wants to join me I will take the taxi at 5:00 AM. Welcome to join.

 

/Sorin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Olafur Gudmundsson" <= ;ogud@ogud.com>
To: "Warren Kumari" <wkumari@google.com>, "Scot= t Brim" <scott.brim@gmail.com>
Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org
Sent: F= riday, November 13, 2009 5:41:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject= : Re: [76attendees] Sunday travel?

Based on my experience this morni= ng that is sufficient time.
there are only 3 early morning flights leavi= ng from the
airport.

         Olafur
=
At 19:53 12/11/2009, Warren Kumari wrote:
>I have a 7:55AM  = HIJ  -> NRT flight on Sunday. The earliest bus gets
>there at= 6:48, which is cutting it a little close for my liking --
>anyone go= ing on the same (or similar) flight and want to share a cab?
>
>= ;W
>
>On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Scott Brim <scott.bri= m@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Eric Burger allegedly wrote on 11/13/20= 09 9:19 AM:
> >> Me. I have a 10:30am flight. Anyone else?
&= gt; >
> > Me, ANA KIX -> HKG
> >
> > _____= __________________________________________
> > 76attendees mailing= list
> > 76attendees@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/m= ailman/listinfo/76attendees
> >
>
>
>
>--<= BR>>
>Warren "Ace" Kumari
>Once again I am tying a new keybo= ard, so please excuse the even worse
>than usual typing!
>_____= __________________________________________
>76attendees mailing list<= BR>>76attendees@ietf.org
>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76= attendees

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------=_Part_191840_11955391.1258158945297-- From Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com Fri Nov 13 20:16:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658AB3A6898 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:16:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.543 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.543 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.056, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X+Bc+EWoZJbs for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:16:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ilptiron01.ecitele.com (ilptiron01.ecitele.com [147.234.242.161]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383193A67E5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:16:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ilptexfe.ecitele.com (HELO ILPTEXCH02.ecitele.com) ([147.234.245.181]) by ilptiron01.ecitele.com with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2009 06:07:42 +0200 Received: from ILPTMAIL02.ecitele.com ([147.234.244.213]) by ILPTEXCH02.ecitele.com ([147.234.245.181]) with mapi; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:17:22 +0200 From: Alexander Vainshtein To: Ed Jankiewicz , "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:14:18 +0200 Thread-Topic: [76attendees] more network praise Thread-Index: AcpkY1WoPLSR6ZSgRtCll8QkjICeVAAfZnRs Message-ID: References: <4AFD5BCD.2070807@sri.com> In-Reply-To: <4AFD5BCD.2070807@sri.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [76attendees] more network praise X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:16:54 -0000 I join the chorus of praises for the excellent - above and beyond all expec= tations! - networking during the meeting. I'd also like to notice that this is the first IETF meeting on my memory wh= en i did not have to work hard to find a power outlet for my laptop - neither during the sessions, nor in = the lobby. Lots of thanks!!! Sasha ________________________________________ From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf= Of Ed Jankiewicz [edward.jankiewicz@sri.com] Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 3:14 PM To: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] more network praise I'm on the ANA hotel network tonight, and it is quite apparent that the magic dust sprinkled by the NOC has worn off. It has turned back into a pumpkin. it's been said many times, but bears repeating. The extra effort the NOC takes to reinforce the hotel network against the hordes of netizens is very important. Rather than crushing the hotel "casual user" service model network, we get excellent performance. Sorry to see them go on Friday. -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees= From mellon@fugue.com Fri Nov 13 20:54:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD11C3A69AF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:54:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.855 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.855 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.255, BAYES_05=-1.11, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9fO2F80sJE5d for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:54:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DB43A699E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:54:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.0.43] (fw.jta03.roonets.co.jp [219.101.215.2]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6AFEE34E542C for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:57:04 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) From: Ted Lemon In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:54:23 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <361EECB8-8275-435A-906A-96B0E5DD6B54@fugue.com> References: <4AFD5BCD.2070807@sri.com> To: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: Re: [76attendees] more network praise X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:54:05 -0000 On Nov 14, 2009, at 1:14 PM, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: > I'd also like to notice that this is the first IETF meeting on my = memory when i did not have to work hard > to find a power outlet for my laptop - neither during the sessions, = nor in the lobby. Yes, the power arrangement was really excellent. And it was a very sad = moment when the wonderful IETF network went away in the Mitsui Garden = and the hotel network came back, but that just underscores what a great = network we had all week. Thanks to everyone who worked on it! From rajiva@cisco.com Sat Nov 14 01:32:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2292D3A6963 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:32:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.419 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.419 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.180, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q4syanlwcnlp for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:32:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com (rtp-iport-2.cisco.com [64.102.122.149]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A70A3A6954 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:32:45 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: rtp-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAGII/kqtJV2Y/2dsb2JhbAC8bJd8hDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,741,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="68083819" Received: from rcdn-core-1.cisco.com ([173.37.93.152]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2009 09:33:15 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-101.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-101.cisco.com [72.163.62.138]) by rcdn-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAE9XFWg003979; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:33:15 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-111.cisco.com ([72.163.62.153]) by xbh-rcd-101.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:33:14 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:33:13 -0600 Message-ID: <067E6CE33034954AAC05C9EC85E2577C219FDE@XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <7D881F4F-547A-4D98-BC17-D5D4A3C74514@americafree.tv> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima Thread-Index: Acpj5sNy+BSmAYtHRyOv2SR/gmbX/wBJpCJA References: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp> <7D881F4F-547A-4D98-BC17-D5D4A3C74514@americafree.tv> From: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" To: "Marshall Eubanks" , "Rodney Van Meter" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2009 09:33:14.0791 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D7E9B70:01CA650D] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:32:46 -0000 I was very impressed by the amount of info on the "host" website. Very useful (specially, the restaurants lists). I hope that it can be replicated in the forthcoming IETFs.=20 Cheers, Rajiv > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:23 PM > To: Rodney Van Meter > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima >=20 > Yes, indeed. This was a stellar meeting. >=20 > Regards > Marshall >=20 > On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Rodney Van Meter wrote: >=20 > > P.S. And Ole for oranizing a lot of the info about Hiroshima! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Sat Nov 14 10:32:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80D33A67B0 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:32:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.53 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12=1.069, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qxRvkz7eaiaI for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:32:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A710A3A67A5 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:32:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=rg+ietf@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1258223588; x=1289759588; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer: x-message-note:date:to:from:subject:cc:content-type: x-random-sig-tag:x-ironport-av; z=Message-Id:=20|In-Reply-To:=0D=0A=20<41c05ea00911102223x323a 3dd2r510deeba1a076c35@mail.gmail.com>|References:=0D=0A =20=0D=0A=20<41c05ea00911102223x323a3dd2r510deeba1a 076c35@mail.gmail.com>|X-Mailer:=20Eudora=20for=20Mac=20O S=20X|X-message-Note:=20Warning:=20Outlook=20in=20use.=20 =20Upgrade=20to=20Eudora:=20|Date: =20Sat,=2014=20Nov=202009=2001:22:25=20-0800|To:=20Warren =20Kumari=20,=0D=0A=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20"Zuniga,=20Juan=20Carlos"=20|From:=20Randall=20Gellens=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[76attendees]=20RFID=20and=20toi lets|Cc:=20<76attendees@ietf.org>|Content-Type:=20text/pl ain=3B=20charset=3D"us-ascii"=20=3B=20format=3D"flowed" |X-Random-Sig-Tag:=201.0b28|X-IronPort-AV:=20E=3DMcAfee =3Bi=3D"5300,2777,5802"=3B=20a=3D"27612287"; bh=UXq7VZJLtpZmOLNpRjbg8KBQ21yuEQv2SfJfzMek+6k=; b=nEw1OeAUrbu3BJ50Lh8noHA9+3dVqPomAgSgUrBzNNQ6lzWkaI1+afEE YivDiTE09+dbM25wXYX3tAl8NTQgm8jqu8x9d/zD6CjZ9N73fQNtcXN2V /DSsRj9g98oKrvO4BOkCayURHiDN+NTTl+tRXUOknKp864qIvhttrOWji c=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5300,2777,5802"; a="27612287" Received: from pdmz-ns-mip.qualcomm.com (HELO ithilien.qualcomm.com) ([199.106.114.10]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 14 Nov 2009 10:33:07 -0800 Received: from msgtransport06.qualcomm.com (msgtransport06.qualcomm.com [129.46.61.149]) by ithilien.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id nAEIX7mt003429 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:33:07 -0800 Received: from host-112-104.meeting.ietf.org (myvpn-l-270.ras.qualcomm.com [10.64.129.14]) by msgtransport06.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id nAEIX0un021111; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:33:01 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <41c05ea00911102223x323a3dd2r510deeba1a076c35@mail.gmail.com> References: <41c05ea00911102223x323a3dd2r510deeba1a076c35@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X X-message-Note: Warning: Outlook in use. Upgrade to Eudora: Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:22:25 -0800 To: Warren Kumari , "Zuniga, Juan Carlos" From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and toilets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:32:37 -0000 At 3:23 PM +0900 11/11/09, Warren Kumari wrote: > Where I work we have Toto brand toilet seats, but instead of having > the controls connected to the seat they are on a separate box on the > wall (much more convenient to reach). Anyway, we discovered that the > communication from the control to the seat itself is over an IR link > -- for April Fools day we used a learning universal remote to learn > the various commands. I couldn't quite bring myself to use it on a > victim though.... Doesn't IR need a clear line of sight to work? Might be a problem with toilets :-) -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- If you want to recapture your youth, cut off his allowance. --Al Bernstein From shemant@cisco.com Sat Nov 14 12:27:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718733A688B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:27:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.091 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.091 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.508, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k05hX2AMqvu4 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:27:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from rtp-iport-1.cisco.com (rtp-iport-1.cisco.com [64.102.122.148]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADD83A66B4 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:27:46 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: rtp-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEANuh/kqtJV2c/2dsb2JhbAC7T5c1hDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,742,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="68066284" Received: from rcdn-core-5.cisco.com ([173.37.93.156]) by rtp-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2009 20:28:16 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com [72.163.62.201]) by rcdn-core-5.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAEKSGTv026016; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:28:16 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-114.cisco.com ([72.163.62.156]) by xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:28:16 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:28:15 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <067E6CE33034954AAC05C9EC85E2577C219FDE@XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima Thread-Index: Acpj5sNy+BSmAYtHRyOv2SR/gmbX/wBJpCJAABaV2fA= References: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp><7D881F4F-547A-4D98-BC17-D5D4A3C74514@americafree.tv> <067E6CE33034954AAC05C9EC85E2577C219FDE@XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com> From: "Hemant Singh (shemant)" To: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" , "Marshall Eubanks" , "Rodney Van Meter" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2009 20:28:16.0507 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF248CB0:01CA6568] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:27:47 -0000 My thanks too to everyone in Japan (the hotels with most gracious and helpful staff, city of Hiroshima, local universities who helped with the impeccable network, and folks from the WIDE project) and Ole Jacobsen. Forgive me, if I missed anyone else. The Mayor of Hiroshima is totally alright too. I too appreciate the number of power strips made available. =20 Regards, Hemant -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Rajiv Asati (rajiva) Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:33 AM To: Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima I was very impressed by the amount of info on the "host" website. Very useful (specially, the restaurants lists). I hope that it can be replicated in the forthcoming IETFs.=20 Cheers, Rajiv > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:23 PM > To: Rodney Van Meter > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima >=20 > Yes, indeed. This was a stellar meeting. >=20 > Regards > Marshall >=20 > On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Rodney Van Meter wrote: >=20 > > P.S. And Ole for oranizing a lot of the info about Hiroshima! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From wkumari@google.com Sat Nov 14 19:02:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B1D3A68AA for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:02:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sZPHOOk1vdSW for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:02:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out.google.com (smtp-out.google.com [216.239.45.13]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE263A6808 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:02:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from spaceape23.eur.corp.google.com (spaceape23.eur.corp.google.com [172.28.16.75]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id nAF32ZwY003347 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:02:36 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; t=1258254156; bh=z7r7p9N46fyBgpCXtgSUDTffQ6c=; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID:Subject:From: To:Cc:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=iUN5H3a6S/Z07lNoeR+9XSc/qCF3LEADqxzCgN2ss7AwxiKDITs0pnedCpKBV0Ik4 6qNlhkRaaiuJu6C2O5lKw== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=beta; d=google.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to: cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-system-of-record; b=O2krnXlvFZqgZkNjxzukPt48y7rgWcTwtI47keUjLzBzef+j4TBXeS0pt27hqQWu3 JAfdhkt/oZPePISKS9Oag== Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (eyw26.prod.google.com [10.208.23.26]) by spaceape23.eur.corp.google.com with ESMTP id nAF32WHh016632 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:02:33 -0800 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 26so1175483eyw.56 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:02:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.91.82 with SMTP id g60mr1967307wef.98.1258254152613; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:02:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <41c05ea00911102223x323a3dd2r510deeba1a076c35@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:02:32 +0900 Message-ID: <41c05ea00911141902o300e50dfrc065bfd1fb103788@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Kumari To: Randall Gellens Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-System-Of-Record: true Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org, "Zuniga, Juan Carlos" Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and toilets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:02:06 -0000 On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Randall Gellens wro= te: > At 3:23 PM +0900 11/11/09, Warren Kumari wrote: > >> =A0Where I work we have Toto brand toilet seats, but instead of having >> =A0the controls connected to the seat they are on a separate box on the >> =A0wall (much more convenient to reach). Anyway, we discovered that the >> =A0communication from the control to the seat itself is over an IR link >> =A0-- for April Fools day we used a learning universal remote to learn >> =A0the various commands. I couldn't quite bring myself to use it on a >> =A0victim though.... > > Doesn't IR need a clear line of sight to work? =A0Might be a problem with > toilets :-) Nah, the ceiling is reflective enough (and the receiver sensitive enough) that a normal universal remote bounced off the ceiling paint will work just fine (actually a little too well as the seats in all the stalls got the "go" signal... W > > -- > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; =A0 =A0facts are suspect; =A0 =A0I speak for mysel= f only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- > If you want to recapture your youth, cut off his allowance. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 --Al Bernstein > --=20 Warren "Ace" Kumari Once again I am tying a new keyboard, so please excuse the even worse than usual typing! From wilmer@google.com Sun Nov 15 06:11:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDDE3A6936 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:11:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.853 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.853 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.124, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jAedVAnNn6pB for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:11:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out.google.com (smtp-out.google.com [216.239.33.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF643A6962 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from wpaz29.hot.corp.google.com (wpaz29.hot.corp.google.com [172.24.198.93]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id nAFEBoT9024024 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:11:50 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; t=1258294310; bh=2fAAmpkZR0Te0MNeyKEH1p06ahM=; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID:Subject:From: To:Content-Type; b=ABOyRKHjXOT/BLkoNoajjjARkpkzuqSHR0HEBaafB0CcRdEumRuWLCEMQzV8fVcFF BHxJR+/Gd0/YLEzuCT1kA== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=beta; d=google.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to: content-type:x-system-of-record; b=CYnRdk6A9+QvOvUK6KHIwRzpnkSG05WiRGbCWaJjaqrm+3hhmmC+jdgAt/BzUC9Is +29L7Dy2PiVg1CtGthcug== Received: from bwz26 (bwz26.prod.google.com [10.188.26.26]) by wpaz29.hot.corp.google.com with ESMTP id nAFEBlHS013745 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:11:47 -0800 Received: by bwz26 with SMTP id 26so5182156bwz.7 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:11:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.5.207 with SMTP id 15mr4637807bkw.89.1258294306929; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:11:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp> <7D881F4F-547A-4D98-BC17-D5D4A3C74514@americafree.tv> <067E6CE33034954AAC05C9EC85E2577C219FDE@XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:11:46 +0900 Message-ID: <7c31c8cc0911150611g2b7c83a1v918f1156aa4a6c06@mail.gmail.com> From: Wilmer van der Gaast To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-System-Of-Record: true Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:11:23 -0000 Since people are already +1ing here anyway, I'll join them. This was my first time at an IETF meeting so I can't really compare, but it was a great and useful experience with lots of interesting and useful chats in between sessions. For the Hiroshima organization, if the goal of the local organizers is to make some of the people want to come back some other day: With me they hit that goal for sure. Thanks all! Wilmer. From kpfleming@digium.com Sun Nov 15 08:03:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9EC3A6990 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:03:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.377 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.377 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.930, BAYES_20=-0.74, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tlK4fwuUDAvV for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.digium.com (mail.digium.com [216.207.245.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37D33A6839 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiler.digium.internal ([10.19.29.150] helo=jupiler.digium.com) by mail.digium.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N9hZu-0008D9-IR for 76attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:03:50 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C966DFC828 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:03:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from jupiler.digium.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jupiler.digium.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vvxx-KILn58U for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:03:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from [172.19.1.104] (173-23-84-177.client.mchsi.com [173.23.84.177]) (Authenticated sender: kpfleming) by jupiler.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B80CDFC827 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:03:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4B002665.5000400@digium.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:03:49 -0600 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" Organization: Digium, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp> <9CD4342E-55B7-49DE-93EB-7DD7004ED7D0@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9CD4342E-55B7-49DE-93EB-7DD7004ED7D0@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=05FB8DB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:03:20 -0000 Bob Hinden wrote: > I fully agree. This was a stellar meeting and I think it sets a new > standard for all future meetings! > > Many thanks to Jun, the WIDE project, all of the sponsors, and everyone > else who helped make this meeting a success. As a first-time attendee, I'm a little concerned about this setting a bad precedent for future meetings... I hope Anaheim won't be disappointing :-) -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpfleming@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org From mehmet.ersue@nsn.com Sun Nov 15 16:39:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9F13A67D8 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:39:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PCMP+j2x9Nis for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (demumfd002.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.31]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4C03A676A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:39:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.55]) by demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id nAG0cuI7031957 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:38:56 +0100 Received: from demuexc024.nsn-intra.net (demuexc024.nsn-intra.net [10.159.32.11]) by demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id nAG0cuKh026170; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:38:56 +0100 Received: from DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.128.18]) by demuexc024.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:38:55 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:38:53 +0100 Message-ID: <80A0822C5E9A4440A5117C2F4CD36A6416E29B@DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima Thread-Index: Acpj5sNy+BSmAYtHRyOv2SR/gmbX/wBJpCJAABaV2fAAO1y4EA== References: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp><7D881F4F-547A-4D98-BC17-D5D4A3C74514@americafree.tv><067E6CE33034954AAC05C9EC85E2577C219FDE@XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com> From: "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" To: "ext Hemant Singh (shemant)" , "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" , "Marshall Eubanks" , "Rodney Van Meter" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2009 00:38:55.0976 (UTC) FILETIME=[2DC72680:01CA6655] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:39:51 -0000 +1 Mehmet =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Hemant=20 > Singh (shemant) > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:28 PM > To: Rajiv Asati (rajiva); Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the=20 > city of Hiroshima >=20 > My thanks too to everyone in Japan (the hotels with most gracious and > helpful staff, city of Hiroshima, local universities who=20 > helped with the > impeccable network, and folks from the WIDE project) and Ole Jacobsen. > Forgive me, if I missed anyone else. The Mayor of Hiroshima=20 > is totally > alright too. I too appreciate the number of power strips made > available. =20 >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Hemant >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Rajiv Asati (rajiva) > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:33 AM > To: Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of > Hiroshima >=20 > I was very impressed by the amount of info on the "host" website. Very > useful (specially, the restaurants lists). I hope that it can be > replicated in the forthcoming IETFs.=20 >=20 > Cheers, > Rajiv >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On > > Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks > > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:23 PM > > To: Rodney Van Meter > > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of > Hiroshima > >=20 > > Yes, indeed. This was a stellar meeting. > >=20 > > Regards > > Marshall > >=20 > > On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Rodney Van Meter wrote: > >=20 > > > P.S. 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X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.493 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, CN_BODY_35=0.339, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.803] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JNCrBa701KSL for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:26:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from cnnic.cn (smtp.cnnic.cn [159.226.7.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E88353A67FC for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (eyou send program); Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:26:38 +0800 Message-ID: <458334798.13299@cnnic.cn> X-EYOUMAIL-SMTPAUTH: shenshuo@cnnic.cn Received: from unknown (HELO lenovo5bff9be9) (127.0.0.1) by 127.0.0.1 with SMTP; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:26:38 +0800 From: =?gb2312?B?U2VhbiBTaGVuIMnyy7g=?= To: "'YAO Jiankang'" , "'Ersue, Mehmet \(NSN - DE/Munich\)'" , "'ext Hemant Singh \(shemant\)'" , "'Rajiv Asati \(rajiva\)'" , "'Marshall Eubanks'" , "'Rodney Van Meter'" References: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp><7D881F4F-547A-4D98-BC17-D5D4A3C74514@americafree.tv><067E6CE33034954AAC05C9EC85E2577C219FDE@XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com> <458332000.15873@cnnic.cn> <458333251.17797@cnnic.cn> In-Reply-To: <458333251.17797@cnnic.cn> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:26:40 +0800 Message-ID: <001b01ca665b$da5c0040$8f1400c0$@cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcpmWD2X/ZK7ydqEQRu+ydUtwkGvsAAA5TFA Content-Language: zh-cn Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] Re : thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:26:41 -0000 +1 > -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE----- > =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] =B4=FA=B1=ED YAO Jiankang > =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA11=D4=C216=C8=D5 9:01 > =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich); ext Hemant Singh = (shemant); Rajiv > Asati (rajiva); Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter > =B3=AD=CB=CD: 76attendees@ietf.org > =D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city = of Hiroshima >=20 > +1 >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" > To: "ext Hemant Singh (shemant)" ; "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" > ; "Marshall Eubanks" ; "Rodney = Van > Meter" > Cc: <76attendees@ietf.org> > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:38 AM > Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima >=20 >=20 > > > > +1 > > > > Mehmet > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org > >> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Hemant > >> Singh (shemant) > >> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:28 PM > >> To: Rajiv Asati (rajiva); Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter > >> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the > >> city of Hiroshima > >> > >> My thanks too to everyone in Japan (the hotels with most gracious = and > >> helpful staff, city of Hiroshima, local universities who > >> helped with the > >> impeccable network, and folks from the WIDE project) and Ole = Jacobsen. > >> Forgive me, if I missed anyone else. The Mayor of Hiroshima > >> is totally > >> alright too. I too appreciate the number of power strips made > >> available. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Hemant > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org > >> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > >> On Behalf Of Rajiv Asati (rajiva) > >> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:33 AM > >> To: Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter > >> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of > >> Hiroshima > >> > >> I was very impressed by the amount of info on the "host" website. = Very > >> useful (specially, the restaurants lists). I hope that it can be > >> replicated in the forthcoming IETFs. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Rajiv > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org > >> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On > >> > Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks > >> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:23 PM > >> > To: Rodney Van Meter > >> > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > >> > Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city = of > >> Hiroshima > >> > > >> > Yes, indeed. This was a stellar meeting. > >> > > >> > Regards > >> > Marshall > >> > > >> > On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Rodney Van Meter wrote: > >> > > >> > > P.S. And Ole for oranizing a lot of the info about Hiroshima! > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > 76attendees mailing list > >> > > 76attendees@ietf.org > >> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > 76attendees mailing list > >> > 76attendees@ietf.org > >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 76attendees mailing list > >> 76attendees@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 76attendees mailing list > >> 76attendees@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From hassanzaheer@gmail.com Sun Nov 15 21:10:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1F53A68F7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; 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boundary=001636c5bcaa95a5b004787607a3 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Re : thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:10:43 -0000 --001636c5bcaa95a5b004787607a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As a first time attendee it was an outstanding and unforgettable experience for me. 2009/11/16 Sean Shen =C9=F2=CB=B8 > +1 > > > -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE----- > > =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org > > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] =B4=FA=B1=ED YAO Jiankang > > =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA11=D4=C216=C8=D5 9:01 > > =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich); ext Hemant Singh (= shemant); Rajiv > > Asati (rajiva); Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter > > =B3=AD=CB=CD: 76attendees@ietf.org > > =D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city o= f Hiroshima > > > > +1 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" > > To: "ext Hemant Singh (shemant)" ; "Rajiv Asati > (rajiva)" > > ; "Marshall Eubanks" ; "Rodney Va= n > > Meter" > > Cc: <76attendees@ietf.org> > > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:38 AM > > Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of > Hiroshima > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > Mehmet > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org > > >> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Hemant > > >> Singh (shemant) > > >> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:28 PM > > >> To: Rajiv Asati (rajiva); Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter > > >> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > > >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the > > >> city of Hiroshima > > >> > > >> My thanks too to everyone in Japan (the hotels with most gracious an= d > > >> helpful staff, city of Hiroshima, local universities who > > >> helped with the > > >> impeccable network, and folks from the WIDE project) and Ole Jacobse= n. > > >> Forgive me, if I missed anyone else. The Mayor of Hiroshima > > >> is totally > > >> alright too. I too appreciate the number of power strips made > > >> available. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> Hemant > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org > > >> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > > >> On Behalf Of Rajiv Asati (rajiva) > > >> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:33 AM > > >> To: Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter > > >> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > > >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of > > >> Hiroshima > > >> > > >> I was very impressed by the amount of info on the "host" website. Ve= ry > > >> useful (specially, the restaurants lists). I hope that it can be > > >> replicated in the forthcoming IETFs. > > >> > > >> Cheers, > > >> Rajiv > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > > >> > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org > > >> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On > > >> > Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks > > >> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:23 PM > > >> > To: Rodney Van Meter > > >> > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > > >> > Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city o= f > > >> Hiroshima > > >> > > > >> > Yes, indeed. This was a stellar meeting. > > >> > > > >> > Regards > > >> > Marshall > > >> > > > >> > On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Rodney Van Meter wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > P.S. And Ole for oranizing a lot of the info about Hiroshima! > > >> > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > 76attendees mailing list > > >> > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > >> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > 76attendees mailing list > > >> > 76attendees@ietf.org > > >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> 76attendees mailing list > > >> 76attendees@ietf.org > > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> 76attendees mailing list > > >> 76attendees@ietf.org > > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > 76attendees mailing list > > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 76attendees mailing list > > 76attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > --=20 --=20 Hassan Zaheer Manager IP Core Worldcall Telecom Ltd. --001636c5bcaa95a5b004787607a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As a first time attendee it was an outstanding and unforgettable experience= for me.

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> =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA11=D4=C216=C8=D5 9:01
> =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich); ext Hemant Singh = (shemant); Rajiv
> Asati (rajiva); Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter
> =B3=AD=CB=CD: 76attendees@ietf= .org
> =D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city = of Hiroshima
>
> +1
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" <mehmet.ersue@nsn.com>
> To: "ext Hemant Singh (shemant)" <shemant@cisco.com>; "Rajiv Asati
(rajiva)"
> <rajiva@cisco.com>; &quo= t;Marshall Eubanks" <tme@amer= icafree.tv>; "Rodney Van
> Meter" <rdv@sfc.wide.ad.= jp>
> Cc: <76attendees@ietf.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organ= izers and the city of
Hiroshima
>
>
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Mehmet
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: 76atten= dees-bounces@ietf.org
> >> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Heman= t
> >> Singh (shemant)
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:28 PM
> >> To: Rajiv Asati (raji= va); Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter
> >> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.= org
> >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the > >> city of Hiroshima
> >>
> >> My thanks too to everyone in Japan (the hotels with most grac= ious and
> >> helpful staff, city of Hiroshima, local universities who
> >> helped with the
> >> impeccable network, and folks from the WIDE project) and Ole = Jacobsen.
> >> Forgive me, if I missed anyone else.  The Mayor of Hiros= hima
> >> is totally
> >> alright too.  I too appreciate the number of power strip= s made
> >> available.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Hemant
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: 76atten= dees-bounces@ietf.org
> >> [mailto:76att= endees-bounces@ietf.org]
> >> On Behalf Of Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:33 AM
> >> To: Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter
> >> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.= org
> >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the c= ity of
> >> Hiroshima
> >>
> >> I was very impressed by the amount of info on the "host&= quot; website. Very
> >> useful (specially, the restaurants lists). I hope that it can= be
> >> replicated in the forthcoming IETFs.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Rajiv
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: 76= attendees-bounces@ietf.org
> >> [mailto:76att= endees-bounces@ietf.org] On
> >> > Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks
> >> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:23 PM
> >> > To: Rodney Van Meter
> >> > Cc: 76attendees@= ietf.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and = the city of
> >> Hiroshima
> >> >
> >> > Yes, indeed. This was a stellar meeting.
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> > Marshall
> >> >
> >> > On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Rodney Van Meter wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > P.S. And Ole for oranizing a lot of the info about = Hiroshima!
> >> > >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > 76attendees mailing list
> >> > > 76attendees= @ietf.org
> >> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attend= ees
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > 76attendees mailing list
> >> > 76attendees@ietf= .org
> >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> 76attendees mailing list
> >> 76attendees@ietf.org<= /a>
> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > >> _______________________________________________
> >> 76attendees mailing list
> >> 76attendees@ietf.org<= /a>
> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > 76attendees mailing list
> > 76attendees@ietf.org<= br> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> 76attendees@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees

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Although as first time attendee, not in position to compare= with previous sessions. But, I must say it was really a marvelous experien= ce.=20 Muhammad Yousaf, Center of Research in Networks and Telecom (CoReNeT) http://corenet.jinnah.edu.pk/ --- On Mon, 11/16/09, Hassan Zaheer wrote: From: Hassan Zaheer Subject: Re: [76attendees] Re : thanks to the organizers and the city of Hi= roshima To: "Sean Shen =E6=B2=88=E7=83=81" Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 10:10 AM As a first time attendee it was an outstanding and unforgettable experience= for me. 2009/11/16 Sean Shen =E6=B2=88=E7=83=81 =0A+1 =0A =0A> -----=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6----- =0A> =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org =0A> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 YAO Jiankang =0A> =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2009=E5=B9=B411=E6=9C=8816=E6=97= =A5 9:01 =0A> =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich); ext Hema= nt Singh (shemant); Rajiv =0A> Asati (rajiva); Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter =0A> =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: 76attendees@ietf.org =0A> =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the= city of Hiroshima =0A> =0A> +1 =0A> =0A> ----- Original Message ----- =0A> From: "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" =0A> To: "ext Hemant Singh (shemant)" ; "Rajiv Asati =0A(rajiva)" =0A> ; "Marshall Eubanks" ; "Rodney V= an =0A> Meter" =0A> Cc: <76attendees@ietf.org> =0A> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:38 AM =0A> Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of =0AHiroshima =0A> =0A> =0A> > =0A> > +1 =0A> > =0A> > Mehmet =0A> > =0A> > =0A> >> -----Original Message----- =0A> >> From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org =0A> >> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Hemant =0A> >> Singh (shemant) =0A> >> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:28 PM =0A> >> To: Rajiv Asati (rajiva); Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter =0A> >> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org =0A> >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the =0A> >> city of Hiroshima =0A> >> =0A> >> My thanks too to everyone in Japan (the hotels with most gracious a= nd =0A> >> helpful staff, city of Hiroshima, local universities who =0A> >> helped with the =0A> >> impeccable network, and folks from the WIDE project) and Ole Jacobs= en. =0A> >> Forgive me, if I missed anyone else. =C2=A0The Mayor of Hiroshima =0A> >> is totally =0A> >> alright too. =C2=A0I too appreciate the number of power strips made =0A> >> available. =0A> >> =0A> >> Regards, =0A> >> =0A> >> Hemant =0A> >> =0A> >> -----Original Message----- =0A> >> From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org =0A> >> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] =0A> >> On Behalf Of Rajiv Asati (rajiva) =0A> >> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:33 AM =0A> >> To: Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter =0A> >> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org =0A> >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of =0A> >> Hiroshima =0A> >> =0A> >> I was very impressed by the amount of info on the "host" website. V= ery =0A> >> useful (specially, the restaurants lists). I hope that it can be =0A> >> replicated in the forthcoming IETFs. =0A> >> =0A> >> Cheers, =0A> >> Rajiv =0A> >> =0A> >> > -----Original Message----- =0A> >> > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org =0A> >> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On =0A> >> > Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks =0A> >> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:23 PM =0A> >> > To: Rodney Van Meter =0A> >> > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org =0A> >> > Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city = of =0A> >> Hiroshima =0A> >> > =0A> >> > Yes, indeed. This was a stellar meeting. =0A> >> > =0A> >> > Regards =0A> >> > Marshall =0A> >> > =0A> >> > On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Rodney Van Meter wrote: =0A> >> > =0A> >> > > P.S. And Ole for oranizing a lot of the info about Hiroshima! =0A> >> > > =0A> >> > > _______________________________________________ =0A> >> > > 76attendees mailing list =0A> >> > > 76attendees@ietf.org =0A> >> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees =0A> >> > =0A> >> > _______________________________________________ =0A> >> > 76attendees mailing list =0A> >> > 76attendees@ietf.org =0A> >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees =0A> >> _______________________________________________ =0A> >> 76attendees mailing list =0A> >> 76attendees@ietf.org =0A> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees =0A> >> _______________________________________________ =0A> >> 76attendees mailing list =0A> >> 76attendees@ietf.org =0A> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees =0A> >> =0A> > _______________________________________________ =0A> > 76attendees mailing list =0A> > 76attendees@ietf.org =0A> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees =0A> > =0A> _______________________________________________ =0A> 76attendees mailing list =0A> 76attendees@ietf.org =0A> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees =0A =0A_______________________________________________ =0A76attendees mailing list =0A76attendees@ietf.org =0Ahttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees =0A --=20 --=20 Hassan Zaheer Manager IP Core =20 Worldcall Telecom Ltd.=20 =0A -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees =0A=0A=0A --0-815088242-1258348507=:49176 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Agree with all. Although as first time attend= ee, not in position to compare with previous sessions. But, I must say it w= as really a marvelous experience.

Muhammad Yousaf,
Center of Research in Networks and Telecom (Co= ReNeT)
http://corenet.jinnah.ed= u.pk/



-= -- On Mon, 11/16/09, Hassan Zaheer <hassanzaheer@gmail.com>= wrote:

From: Hassan Zaheer <hassanz= aheer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [76attendees] Re : thanks to the organi= zers and the city of Hiroshima
To: "Sean Shen =E6=B2=88=E7=83=81" <sh= enshuo@cnnic.cn>
Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 10:10 AM

<= div id=3D"yiv877379579">As a first time attendee it was an outstanding and = unforgettable experience for me.

2009/11/= 16 Sean Shen =E6=B2=88=E7=83=81 <shenshuo@cnnic.cn>
=0A
+1
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=0A> -----=E9= =82=AE=E4=BB=B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6-----
=0A> =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA= =BA: 76at= tendees-bounces@ietf.org
=0A> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 YAO Jiankang
=0A> =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9= =97=B4: 2009=E5=B9=B411=E6=9C=8816=E6=97=A5 9:01
=0A> =E6=94=B6=E4=BB= =B6=E4=BA=BA: Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich); ext Hemant Singh (shemant); = Rajiv
=0A> Asati (rajiva); Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter
=0A&= gt; =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: 7= 6attendees@ietf.org
=0A> =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: [76attendees] th= anks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima
=0A
&g= t;
=0A> +1
=0A>
=0A> ----- Original Message -----
=0A&= gt; From: "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" <mehmet.ersue@nsn.com>
=0A> To: "ext H= emant Singh (shemant)" <shem= ant@cisco.com>; "Rajiv Asati
=0A(rajiva)"
=0A> <rajiva@cisco.com>; "Marshall Eub= anks" <tme@americafree.tv= >; "Rodney Van
=0A> Meter" <rdv@sfc.wide.ad.jp>
=0A> Cc: <76attendees@ietf.org>
=0A>= Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:38 AM
=0A
>= Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of
=0A= Hiroshima
=0A>
=0A>
=0A> >
=0A
> > +1=0A> >
=0A> > Mehmet
=0A
> >
= =0A> >
=0A> >> -----Original Message-----
=0A> >= > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org
=0A
> >&= gt; [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Hemant
=0A> >= ;> Singh (shemant)
=0A> >> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009= 9:28 PM
=0A
> >> To: Ra= jiv Asati (rajiva); Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter
=0A> >> = Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org<= /a>
=0A> >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers= and the
=0A> >> city of Hiroshima
=0A> >>
=0A&g= t; >> My thanks too to everyone in Japan (the hotels with most gracio= us and
=0A> >> helpful staff, city of Hiroshima, local universi= ties who
=0A> >> helped with the
=0A> >> impeccable= network, and folks from the WIDE project) and Ole Jacobsen.
=0A> >= ;> Forgive me, if I missed anyone else.  The Mayor of Hiroshima
= =0A> >> is totally
=0A> >> alright too.  I too ap= preciate the number of power strips made
=0A> >> available.
= =0A> >>
=0A> >> Regards,
=0A> >>
=0A>= ; >> Hemant
=0A> >>
=0A> >> -----Original Mes= sage-----
=0A> >> From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org
=0A> >= > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org]
=0A> >> On Behalf Of Raji= v Asati (rajiva)
=0A> >> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:33= AM
=0A> >> To: Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter
=0A> &= gt;> Cc: 76attendees@i= etf.org
=0A> >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the or= ganizers and the city of
=0A> >> Hiroshima
=0A> >><= br>=0A> >> I was very impressed by the amount of info on the "host= " website. Very
=0A> >> useful (specially, the restaurants list= s). I hope that it can be
=0A> >> replicated in the forthcoming= IETFs.
=0A> >>
=0A> >> Cheers,
=0A> >>= Rajiv
=0A> >>
=0A> >> > -----Original Message--= ---
=0A> >> > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org
=0A> >&= gt; [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On
=0A> >> > Behalf Of = Marshall Eubanks
=0A> >> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009= 5:23 PM
=0A> >> > To: Rodney Van Meter
=0A> >> = > Cc: 76attendees@ietf= .org
=0A> >> > Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the = organizers and the city of
=0A> >> Hiroshima
=0A> >>= ; >
=0A> >> > Yes, indeed. This was a stellar meeting.=0A> >> >
=0A> >> > Regards
=0A> >>= > Marshall
=0A> >> >
=0A> >> > On Nov 12,= 2009, at 5:02 PM, Rodney Van Meter wrote:
=0A> >> >
=0A&= gt; >> > > P.S. And Ole for oranizing a lot of the info about H= iroshima!
=0A> >> > >
=0A> >> > > _____= __________________________________________
=0A> >> > > 76= attendees mailing list
=0A> >> > > 76attendees@ietf.org
=0A> >> &g= t; > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76atten= dees
=0A> >> >
=0A> >> > ________________= _______________________________
=0A> >> > 76attendees mailin= g list
=0A> >> > 76attendees@ietf.org
=0A> >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees
=0A> >&g= t; _______________________________________________
=0A> >> 76at= tendees mailing list
=0A> >> 76attendees@ietf.org
=0A> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees
=0A> &g= t;> _______________________________________________
=0A> >> = 76attendees mailing list
=0A> >> 76attendees@ietf.org
=0A> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees
=0A>= ; >>
=0A> > _______________________________________________<= br>=0A> > 76attendees mailing list
=0A> > 76attendees@ietf.org
=0A> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees=0A> >
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=0A> 76attendees@ietf.org
=0A> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees
=0A
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=0A=0A --0-815088242-1258348507=:49176-- From john.fallows@kaazing.com Sun Nov 15 21:16:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0686D3A6928 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:16:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.813 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.813 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CN_BODY_35=0.339, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YQ2qqE-w6z0S for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:16:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com (mail-fx0-f215.google.com [209.85.220.215]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C3F3A69AE for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:16:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so5352331fxm.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:15:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.152.151 with SMTP id g23mr5479962bkw.148.1258348559193; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:15:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <744750.49176.qm@web65309.mail.ac2.yahoo.com> References: <79611dc80911152110t345170e3j93299359e140bd56@mail.gmail.com> <744750.49176.qm@web65309.mail.ac2.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:15:59 -0800 Message-ID: From: John Fallows To: Muhammad Yousaf Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175d0362dfd53f0478761ac5 Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] Re : thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:16:05 -0000 --0015175d0362dfd53f0478761ac5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1. 2009/11/15 Muhammad Yousaf > Agree with all. Although as first time attendee, not in position to compa= re > with previous sessions. But, I must say it was really a marvelous > experience. > > Muhammad Yousaf, > Center of Research in Networks and Telecom (CoReNeT) > http://corenet.jinnah.edu.pk/ > > > > --- On *Mon, 11/16/09, Hassan Zaheer * wrote: > > > From: Hassan Zaheer > Subject: Re: [76attendees] Re : thanks to the organizers and the city of > Hiroshima > To: "Sean Shen =C9=F2=CB=B8" > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org > Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 10:10 AM > > > As a first time attendee it was an outstanding and unforgettable experien= ce > for me. > > 2009/11/16 Sean Shen =C9=F2=CB=B8 > > > >> +1 >> >> > -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE----- >> > =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org >> > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] >> =B4=FA=B1=ED YAO Jiankang >> > =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA11=D4=C216=C8=D5 9:01 >> > =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich); ext Hemant Singh = (shemant); Rajiv >> > Asati (rajiva); Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter >> > =B3=AD=CB=CD: 76attendees@ietf.org >> > =D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city = of Hiroshima >> > >> > +1 >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" >> > >> > To: "ext Hemant Singh (shemant)" >; >> "Rajiv Asati >> (rajiva)" >> > >; "Marshal= l >> Eubanks" = >; >> "Rodney Van >> > Meter" = > >> > Cc: <76attendees@ietf.org > >> > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:38 AM >> > Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of >> Hiroshima >> > >> > >> > > >> > > +1 >> > > >> > > Mehmet >> > > >> > > >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> > >> From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org >> > >> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] >> On Behalf Of ext Hemant >> > >> Singh (shemant) >> > >> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:28 PM >> > >> To: Rajiv Asati (rajiva); Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter >> > >> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org >> > >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the >> > >> city of Hiroshima >> > >> >> > >> My thanks too to everyone in Japan (the hotels with most gracious a= nd >> > >> helpful staff, city of Hiroshima, local universities who >> > >> helped with the >> > >> impeccable network, and folks from the WIDE project) and Ole >> Jacobsen. >> > >> Forgive me, if I missed anyone else. The Mayor of Hiroshima >> > >> is totally >> > >> alright too. I too appreciate the number of power strips made >> > >> available. >> > >> >> > >> Regards, >> > >> >> > >> Hemant >> > >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> > >> From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org >> > >> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org >> ] >> > >> On Behalf Of Rajiv Asati (rajiva) >> > >> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:33 AM >> > >> To: Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter >> > >> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org >> > >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of >> > >> Hiroshima >> > >> >> > >> I was very impressed by the amount of info on the "host" website. >> Very >> > >> useful (specially, the restaurants lists). I hope that it can be >> > >> replicated in the forthcoming IETFs. >> > >> >> > >> Cheers, >> > >> Rajiv >> > >> >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > >> > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org >> > >> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] >> On >> > >> > Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks >> > >> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:23 PM >> > >> > To: Rodney Van Meter >> > >> > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org >> > >> > Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city = of >> > >> Hiroshima >> > >> > >> > >> > Yes, indeed. This was a stellar meeting. >> > >> > >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Marshall >> > >> > >> > >> > On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Rodney Van Meter wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > > P.S. And Ole for oranizing a lot of the info about Hiroshima! >> > >> > > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > > 76attendees mailing list >> > >> > > 76attendees@ietf.org >> > >> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > 76attendees mailing list >> > >> > 76attendees@ietf.org >> > >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> 76attendees mailing list >> > >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> 76attendees mailing list >> > >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > 76attendees mailing list >> > > 76attendees@ietf.org >> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > 76attendees mailing list >> > 76attendees@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> > > > > -- > -- > Hassan Zaheer > Manager IP Core > > Worldcall Telecom Ltd. > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > --=20 >|< Kaazing Corporation >|< John Fallows | CTO | +1.650.960.8148 888 Villa St, Ste 410 | Mountain View, CA 94041, USA --0015175d0362dfd53f0478761ac5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1.

2009/11/15 Muhammad Yousaf <myousaf@ymail.com>=
Agree with all. Although as first time attendee, not in position to compare= with previous sessions. But, I must say it was really a marvelous experien= ce.

Muhammad Yousaf,
C= enter of Research in Networks and Telecom (CoReNeT)
http://corenet.jinnah.edu.pk/



--- On M= on, 11/16/09, Hassan Zaheer <hassanzaheer@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Hassan Zaheer <hassanzaheer@gmail.com>
Sub= ject: Re: [76attendees] Re : thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiros= hima
To: "Sean Shen =C9=F2=CB=B8" <shenshuo@cnnic.cn>
Cc: 76attendees@ietf= .org
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 10:10 AM


As a first time attendee it was an outstanding and= unforgettable experience for me.

2009/11/16 Sean Shen =C9=F2=CB=B8 <shenshuo@cnnic.cn>
+1

> -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE-----
> =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: 76attendees-bounces@ietf= .org
> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] =B4= =FA=B1=ED YAO Jiankang
> =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA11=D4=C216=C8=D5 9:01
> =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich); ext Hemant Singh = (shemant); Rajiv
> Asati (rajiva); Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter
> =B3=AD=CB=CD: 76attendees@ietf.org
> =D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city = of Hiroshima
>
> +1
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" <= mehmet.ersue@nsn.com>
> To: "ext Hemant Singh (shemant)" <shemant@ci= sco.com>; "Rajiv Asati
(rajiva)"
> <rajiva@cisco.com>; "Marshall Eubanks"= <tme@americafree.tv>; "Rodney Van
> Meter" <rdv@sfc.wide.ad.jp>
> Cc: <76attendees@ietf.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the= city of
Hiroshima
>
>
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Mehmet
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org
> >> [mailto:76attendees-bounce= s@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Hemant
> >> Singh (shemant)
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:28 PM
> >> To: Rajiv Asati (rajiva); Marshall= Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter
> >> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org
> >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the > >> city of Hiroshima
> >>
> >> My thanks too to everyone in Japan (the hotels with most grac= ious and
> >> helpful staff, city of Hiroshima, local universities who
> >> helped with the
> >> impeccable network, and folks from the WIDE project) and Ole = Jacobsen.
> >> Forgive me, if I missed anyone else.  The Mayor of Hiros= hima
> >> is totally
> >> alright too.  I too appreciate the number of power strip= s made
> >> available.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Hemant
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org
> >> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org<= /a>]
> >> On Behalf Of Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:33 AM
> >> To: Marshall Eubanks; Rodney Van Meter
> >> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org
> >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the c= ity of
> >> Hiroshima
> >>
> >> I was very impressed by the amount of info on the "host&= quot; website. Very
> >> useful (specially, the restaurants lists). I hope that it can= be
> >> replicated in the forthcoming IETFs.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Rajiv
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf= .org
> >> [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org<= /a>] On
> >> > Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks
> >> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:23 PM
> >> > To: Rodney Van Meter
> >> > Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and = the city of
> >> Hiroshima
> >> >
> >> > Yes, indeed. This was a stellar meeting.
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> > Marshall
> >> >
> >> > On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Rodney Van Meter wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > P.S. And Ole for oranizing a lot of the info about = Hiroshima!
> >> > >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > 76attendees mailing list
> >> > > 76attendees@ietf.org
> >> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/= listinfo/76attendees
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > 76attendees mailing list
> >> > 76attendees@ietf.org
> >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listi= nfo/76attendees
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> 76attendees mailing list
> >> 76attendees@ietf.org
> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/7= 6attendees
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> 76attendees mailing list
> >> 76attendees@ietf.org
> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/7= 6attendees
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > 76attendees mailing list
> > 76attendees@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76att= endees
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> 76attendees@ietf.org
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--0015175d0362dfd53f0478761ac5-- From mmorrow@cisco.com Mon Nov 16 00:02:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AAE3A68FC for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:02:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.109 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.109 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F+uDFfDvdo02 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:02:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A543A6887 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:02:12 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: ams-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiIAABOVAEuQ/uCWe2dsb2JhbACCUJlOAQELCyQGoRyJIgmMdIJSgWoEgW0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,750,1249257600"; d="scan'208,217";a="54442289" Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.150]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2009 08:02:10 +0000 Received: from xbh-ams-101.cisco.com (xbh-ams-101.cisco.com [144.254.74.71]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAG82AD0014191; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:02:10 GMT Received: from xmb-ams-110.cisco.com ([144.254.74.85]) by xbh-ams-101.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:02:10 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA6693.195E9C45" Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:01:51 +0100 Message-ID: <317616CE96204D49B5A1811098BA89505E9386@XMB-AMS-110.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [76attendees] more network praise Thread-Index: AcpkY1WoPLSR6ZSgRtCll8QkjICeVAAfZnRsAGyHtHM= References: <4AFD5BCD.2070807@sri.com> From: "Monique Morrow (mmorrow)" To: "Alexander Vainshtein" , "Ed Jankiewicz" , <76attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2009 08:02:10.0704 (UTC) FILETIME=[19789900:01CA6693] Subject: Re: [76attendees] more network praise X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:02:14 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA6693.195E9C45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1-- well done-- bar has been set high! -----Original Message----- From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of Alexander Vainshtein Sent: Fri 11/13/2009 8:14 PM To: Ed Jankiewicz; 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] more network praise =20 I join the chorus of praises for the excellent - above and beyond all = expectations! - networking during the meeting. I'd also like to notice that this is the first IETF meeting on my memory = when i did not have to work hard to find a power outlet for my laptop - neither during the sessions, nor = in the lobby. Lots of thanks!!! Sasha ________________________________________ From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Ed Jankiewicz [edward.jankiewicz@sri.com] Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 3:14 PM To: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: [76attendees] more network praise I'm on the ANA hotel network tonight, and it is quite apparent that the magic dust sprinkled by the NOC has worn off. It has turned back into a pumpkin. it's been said many times, but bears repeating. The extra effort the NOC takes to reinforce the hotel network against the hordes of netizens is very important. Rather than crushing the hotel "casual user" service model network, we get excellent performance. Sorry to see them go on Friday. -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees _______________________________________________ 76attendees mailing list 76attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA6693.195E9C45 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [76attendees] more network praise

+1-- well done-- bar has been set high!



-----Original Message-----
From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of Alexander Vainshtein
Sent: Fri 11/13/2009 8:14 PM
To: Ed Jankiewicz; 76attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [76attendees] more network praise

I join the chorus of praises for the excellent - above and beyond all = expectations! - networking
during the meeting.

I'd also like to notice that this is the first IETF meeting on my memory = when i did not have to work hard
to find a power outlet for my laptop - neither during the sessions, nor = in the lobby.

Lots of thanks!!!
     Sasha

________________________________________
From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org [76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Ed Jankiewicz [edward.jankiewicz@sri.com]
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 3:14 PM
To: 76attendees@ietf.org
Subject: [76attendees] more network praise

I'm on the ANA hotel network tonight, and it is quite apparent that = the
magic dust sprinkled by the NOC has worn off.  It has turned back = into a
pumpkin.

it's been said many times, but bears repeating.  The extra effort = the
NOC takes to reinforce the hotel network against the hordes of = netizens
is very important.  Rather than crushing the hotel "casual = user" service
model network, we get excellent performance.  Sorry to see them go = on
Friday.

--
Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International
Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research
Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch
732-389-1003 or  ed.jankiewicz@sri.com

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------_=_NextPart_001_01CA6693.195E9C45-- From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Mon Nov 16 14:12:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446213A688D for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:12:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tF6oEU7VGcYJ for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:12:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2473A680A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:12:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=rg+ietf@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1258409533; x=1289945533; h=message-id:x-mailer:x-message-note:date:to:from:subject: content-type:x-random-sig-tag:x-ironport-av; z=Message-Id:=20 |X-Mailer:=20Eudora=20for=20Mac=20OS=20X|X-message-Note: =20Warning:=20Outlook=20in=20use.=20=20Upgrade=20to=20Eud ora:=20|Date:=20Mon,=2016=20Nov=20 2009=2014:08:04=20-0800|To:=2076attendees@ietf.org|From: =20Randall=20Gellens=20|Subject:=20 Re:=20[76attendees]=20RFID=20and=20toilets|Content-Type: =20text/plain=3B=20charset=3D"us-ascii"=20=3B=20format=3D "flowed"|X-Random-Sig-Tag:=201.0b28|X-IronPort-AV:=20E=3D McAfee=3Bi=3D"5300,2777,5804"=3B=20a=3D"27743668"; bh=lDhqPtWCMXKY35vyRe/hhvHoqhJou14gSYhMDXeB3bU=; b=UwTTzHZ7KcuXMyo5OLHq34V7a4e1hZbX7fvhDJxeCV32bovp8mKgVS+I tiVQn53qWWnTyRB0Fn+npZFpMLT0tkHs+fqKnBDrrHJ9LyEvSsDVxIT76 Ci2Wa2QZRDoLSGimhm72hx0Xl4FotL+Qv4Q38ggFFMaa/Eqx3hpRfKjrC s=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5300,2777,5804"; a="27743668" Received: from pdmz-ns-mip.qualcomm.com (HELO ithilien.qualcomm.com) ([199.106.114.10]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 16 Nov 2009 14:11:57 -0800 Received: from msgtransport06.qualcomm.com (msgtransport06.qualcomm.com [129.46.61.149]) by ithilien.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id nAGMBvpl012155 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:11:57 -0800 Received: from loud.qualcomm.com (loud.qualcomm.com [129.46.72.21]) by msgtransport06.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id nAGMBhF7032502 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:11:56 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X X-message-Note: Warning: Outlook in use. Upgrade to Eudora: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:08:04 -0800 To: 76attendees@ietf.org From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and toilets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:12:15 -0000 At 8:09 AM -0800 11/12/09, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > Not to brag but: The Toto in my room automatically raises the lid when > I enter the room, automatically flushes afterwards and then closes the > lid. I don't think it can be programmed to detect gender, but you can > probably set it to raise both lid and seat, which currently has to be > opened by push of the remote control on the wall. The Wikipedia entry says "Another recent innovation is intelligent sensors that detect someone standing in front of the toilet and initiate an automatic raising of the lid (if the person is facing away from the toilet) or the lid and seat together (if someone is facing the toilet)." (). -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- When a man's best friend is his dog, that dog has a problem. --Edward Abbey From dykim6@gmail.com Mon Nov 16 14:29:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9856C3A6A1B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:29:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.976 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.976 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bgvE8l0-e-PG for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:29:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C0E3A67C0 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:29:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by pwi6 with SMTP id 6so3825469pwi.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:29:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=6ef1VwebUVUxM/3SSSMHRnuPL+yWdz2lsB0JiKItLVQ=; b=ApxLE2d3U4KbRPOBsRMgpNg48a99fDDfHQDTwFfmBvfpXXn4snLZYOSud7ZIDwQr9Y 0cwBeBWv0arXEnY/AZdAnkM3JTlbwFEikeuiUBBB3fDHdi7SDy2Tx7Nnyb7bBbUQOHsT 6uu4Gy/7TUsxLjcWEPGwke4iBwqG0ONN+8T7g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=In+JFEej2mPulBVz5klCWPv6FQ1CH5sljlmUPeNF+BEh2c8SwUk+tTTwPAlHn9i39y ZhUdABA96TDgPE+BXyYjIuWLb/hglZ3bR+EksozUH9G7xiFnameo+wKDvKo99Rzu+y5n 0v3YjGAv8uu3cO954mGw+KQCzbPy90bBtkH5Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: dykim6@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.3.12 with SMTP id 12mr885628wfc.331.1258410541247; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:29:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:29:01 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ffe579d076b079a0 Message-ID: <3938a04d0911161429y73dc0d0hcac28c2aeffe8ca1@mail.gmail.com> From: Dae Young KIM To: Randall Gellens Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e233f4aed30047884895d Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] RFID and toilets X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:29:05 -0000 --0016368e233f4aed30047884895d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Randall Gellens > wrote: > At 8:09 AM -0800 11/12/09, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > Not to brag but: The Toto in my room automatically raises the lid when >> I enter the room, automatically flushes afterwards and then closes the >> lid. I don't think it can be programmed to detect gender, but you can >> probably set it to raise both lid and seat, which currently has to be >> opened by push of the remote control on the wall. >> > > The Wikipedia entry says "Another recent innovation is intelligent sensors > that detect someone standing in front of the toilet and initiate an > automatic raising of the lid (if the person is facing away from the toilet) This happened in one of the fast train in Japan, either in Shikansen Ezumi(Tokyo-Hakata) or in Haruka(Kyoto-Kansai). Was even scary. I though some ghost was there in the toilet booth. > or the lid and seat together (if someone is facing the toilet)." > This, I don't remember quite. > > (). > > > -- > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- > When a man's best friend is his dog, that dog has a problem. > --Edward Abbey > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > -- Regards, DY http://cnu.kr/~dykim --0016368e233f4aed30047884895d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@qualcomm.com> w= rote:
At 8:09 AM -0800 11/12/09, Ole Jacobsen wrote:

=A0Not to brag but: The Toto in my room automatically raises the lid when<= br> =A0I enter the room, automatically flushes afterwards and then closes the<= br> =A0lid. I don't think it can be programmed to detect gender, but you c= an
=A0probably set it to raise both lid and seat, which currently has to be =A0opened by push of the remote control on the wall.

The Wikipedia entry says "Another recent innovation is intelligent sen= sors that detect someone standing in front of the toilet and initiate an au= tomatic raising of the lid (if the person is facing away from the toilet)

This happened in one of the fast train in Japan, either in Shikans= en Ezumi(Tokyo-Hakata) or in Haruka(Kyoto-Kansai). Was even scary. I though= some ghost was there in the toilet booth.
=A0
or the lid and seat together (if someone is facing the toilet)."

This, I don't remember quite.

(<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan>).


--
Randall Gellens
Opinions are personal; =A0 =A0facts are suspect; =A0 =A0I speak for myself = only
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When a man's best friend is his dog, that dog has a problem.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--Edward Abbey

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--0016368e233f4aed30047884895d-- From Sandra.Murphy@cobham.com Mon Nov 16 14:56:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E6A3A6B2B for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:56:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JN1EsPGaGlbt for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:56:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from M4.sparta.com (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0CF93A6A2D for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from Beta5.sparta.com (beta5.sparta.com [157.185.63.21]) by M4.sparta.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id nAGMuNij021117; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:56:23 -0600 Received: from nemo.columbia.ads.sparta.com (nemo.columbia.sparta.com [157.185.80.75]) by Beta5.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nAGMuLkX001626; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:56:22 -0600 Received: from SANDYM-LT.columbia.ads.sparta.com ([157.185.81.106]) by nemo.columbia.ads.sparta.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:56:21 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:56:21 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: Sandra Murphy To: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" In-Reply-To: <067E6CE33034954AAC05C9EC85E2577C219FDE@XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com> Message-ID: References: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp> <7D881F4F-547A-4D98-BC17-D5D4A3C74514@americafree.tv> <067E6CE33034954AAC05C9EC85E2577C219FDE@XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com> X-X-Sender: sandy@nemo.columbia.sparta.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2009 22:56:21.0571 (UTC) FILETIME=[03E13930:01CA6710] Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:56:28 -0000 I'd really like to pile in on this one. I don't think I've ever felt so well-informed, prepared, and briefed as for this IETF. Even to the point of well-timed repetitions and reminders at the moment they were likely to be needed. --Sandy On Sat, 14 Nov 2009, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) wrote: > I was very impressed by the amount of info on the "host" website. Very > useful (specially, the restaurants lists). I hope that it can be > replicated in the forthcoming IETFs. > > Cheers, > Rajiv > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 76attendees-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:76attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On >> Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks >> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:23 PM >> To: Rodney Van Meter >> Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of > Hiroshima >> >> Yes, indeed. This was a stellar meeting. >> >> Regards >> Marshall >> >> On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Rodney Van Meter wrote: >> >>> P.S. And Ole for oranizing a lot of the info about Hiroshima! >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 76attendees mailing list >>> 76attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From stig@venaas.com Mon Nov 16 15:30:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06013A6A43 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:30:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CC8eRlwVDmYF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:30:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from ufisa.uninett.no (ufisa.uninett.no [IPv6:2001:700:1:2:158:38:152:126]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13933A6A3E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:420:1:fff:0:5efe:10.32.214.37] (unknown [IPv6:2001:420:1:fff:0:5efe:a20:d625]) by ufisa.uninett.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079F423617 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:29:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B01E073.5030608@venaas.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:29:55 -0800 From: Stig Venaas User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 76attendees@ietf.org References: <13E26ACD-28A8-409A-A038-DC32F3D90F62@sfc.wide.ad.jp><7D881F4F-547A-4D98-BC17-D5D4A3C74514@americafree.tv> <067E6CE33034954AAC05C9EC85E2577C219FDE@XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:30:00 -0000 Hemant Singh (shemant) wrote: > My thanks too to everyone in Japan (the hotels with most gracious and > helpful staff, city of Hiroshima, local universities who helped with the > impeccable network, and folks from the WIDE project) and Ole Jacobsen. > Forgive me, if I missed anyone else. The Mayor of Hiroshima is totally > alright too. I too appreciate the number of power strips made > available. +1 Everything was just excellent. Stig From john-ietf@jck.com Mon Nov 16 17:20:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BD23A68A5 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:20:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.949 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.949 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.650, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9Mw8RwdsSq3x for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from bs.jck.com (ns.jck.com [209.187.148.211]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83683A676A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by bs.jck.com with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1NACjg-000NGz-8Y; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:20:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:19:59 -0500 From: John C Klensin To: Sandra Murphy Message-ID: <1027CA9D98D773EC3AFF5EE3@PST.JCK.COM> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] thanks to the organizers and the city of Hiroshima X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:20:03 -0000 --On Monday, November 16, 2009 17:56 -0500 Sandra Murphy wrote: > I'd really like to pile in on this one. I don't think I've > ever felt so well-informed, prepared, and briefed as for this > IETF. Even to the point of well-timed repetitions and > reminders at the moment they were likely to be needed. Agreed. Really impressive job on all counts especially given the travel time from major international airports. john From shenshuo@cnnic.cn Tue Nov 17 00:03:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7EEA3A6B9C for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:03:28 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER, Duplicate header field: "Message-ID" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.399 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.094, BAYES_50=0.001, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.803] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XKwhRGoJ3QDf for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:03:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from cnnic.cn (smtp.cnnic.cn [159.226.7.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D19683A6B9B for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:03:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (eyou send program); Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:03:27 +0800 Message-ID: <458445007.25786@cnnic.cn> X-EYOUMAIL-SMTPAUTH: shenshuo@cnnic.cn Received: from unknown (HELO lenovo5bff9be9) (127.0.0.1) by 127.0.0.1 with SMTP; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:03:27 +0800 From: =?gb2312?B?U2VhbiBTaGVuIMnyy7g=?= To: <76attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:03:31 +0800 Message-ID: <004b01ca675c$73ebb600$5bc32200$@cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004C_01CA679F.820EF600" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcpnXHPA2XFsr4uoTE2rlTrKvEPenQ== Content-Language: zh-cn Subject: [76attendees] IETF76 statistics? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:03:29 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01CA679F.820EF600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe I missed some info already posted, but are there any statistics of IETF76 available yet? Such as attendees? Best, Sean ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01CA679F.820EF600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Maybe I missed some info already = posted, but are there any statistics of IETF76 available yet? Such as = attendees?

 

Best,

 

Sean

------=_NextPart_000_004C_01CA679F.820EF600-- From tme@americafree.tv Tue Nov 17 00:25:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CADE3A6B98 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:25:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.500, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eP55-6+6+CIS for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:25:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.americafree.tv (rossini.americafree.tv [63.105.122.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33D53A69FD for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:25:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (rossini.americafree.tv [63.105.122.34]) by mail.americafree.tv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652F653CBD5E; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:25:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <0466D3B6-2237-4193-9C1E-03549938D43D@americafree.tv> From: Marshall Eubanks To: =?UTF-8?Q?Sean_Shen_=E6=B2=88=E7=83=81?= In-Reply-To: <458445007.25786@cnnic.cn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:25:10 -0500 References: <458445007.25786@cnnic.cn> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] IETF76 statistics? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:25:15 -0000 This is always in the IETF Chair report during the plenary, at least =20 as of Tuesday of the meeting week. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/76/materials.html (in Power Point only for now !!) Regards Marshall On Nov 17, 2009, at 3:03 AM, Sean Shen =E6=B2=88=E7=83=81 wrote: > Maybe I missed some info already posted, but are there any =20 > statistics of IETF76 available yet? Such as attendees? > > Best, > > Sean > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From rpelletier@isoc.org Tue Nov 17 01:16:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7493A6BA7 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:16:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sh7cKNI6TSL3 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:16:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp151.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp151.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.151]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC7E3A6BAC for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:16:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay25.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay25.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 178041B4F2F for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay25.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id EA8F11B4EBA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:16:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <8CA9D33F-32E5-4EFB-9020-EAAF73A89ABE@isoc.org> From: Ray Pelletier To: 76attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:16:25 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [76attendees] Anaheim Percussion, Strings & Mo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:16:28 -0000 Any chance of getting the band back together in Anaheim? Karaoke? Ray From bob.hinden@gmail.com Tue Nov 17 14:35:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC583A6BD6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:35:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fCy-+UxwNqLg for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66B33A67B2 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:35:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so1730498fga.13 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:35:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=X9DK7iDBSU2IN0jHRNzSADaKCev3Od2l3wqgh4G+o9M=; b=DMXb7nbaYdiloz+6CC0VrLFvjsMM1OEQj20BVfGA9Gxrz/pw8pY4EsTnri9iXqZG1M v5mWy0Lwf2nNuE3C/4HICuJ/b70tBD3MEc5ZnIR0J+DdUfjb1Oj+JrKNUeeOcZEj8VwQ HsCLgK/sMkrmdZCkClkXYCYfHeDM+jZElAtXw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=cycuu1NjHXE4YF5+3RivI3mPAdUe9Jt4Gvg7vPXVDgu0qB0/RLXBbCE2IT4niPaioB jLUyPpmVVZF1Am9c3/H/aISk3iQLMHWSmAHR6SUu15MgBTnVY4q8fMcQNKbjeKgWLmK+ 5LrwcDdV4Jk9m3QYo/hgInOvcN1TBRYOsxX9U= Received: by 10.87.40.40 with SMTP id s40mr527488fgj.74.1258497337037; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:35:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?209.97.124.131? ([209.97.124.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d8sm2280422fga.23.2009.11.17.14.35.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:35:36 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: <0466D3B6-2237-4193-9C1E-03549938D43D@americafree.tv> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:34:59 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <88FA0E03-DF6A-46B4-8D5E-FF5BC93D03B0@gmail.com> References: <458445007.25786@cnnic.cn> <0466D3B6-2237-4193-9C1E-03549938D43D@americafree.tv> To: =?utf-8?Q?Sean_Shen_=E6=B2=88=E7=83=81?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] IETF76 statistics? X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:35:43 -0000 Sean, On Nov 17, 2009, at 12:25 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > This is always in the IETF Chair report during the plenary, at least = as of Tuesday of the meeting week. >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/76/materials.html >=20 > (in Power Point only for now !!) The Hiroshima registration numbers, as of the afternoon of the Thursday = plenary, can be found in the IAOC presentation: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09nov/slides/plenaryw-5.pdf Bob >=20 > Regards > Marshall >=20 > On Nov 17, 2009, at 3:03 AM, Sean Shen =E6=B2=88=E7=83=81 wrote: >=20 >> Maybe I missed some info already posted, but are there any statistics = of IETF76 available yet? Such as attendees? >>=20 >> Best, >>=20 >> Sean >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From rvdp@rvdp.org Wed Nov 25 12:31:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C2E3A6B31 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:31:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JwJL-WRkleWY for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:31:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from kirk.rvdp.org (kirk.rvdp.org [IPv6:2001:610:108:87::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF783A6B48 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:31:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from kirk.rvdp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kirk.rvdp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAPKVLR0007079 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:31:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rvdp@kirk.rvdp.org) Received: (from rvdp@localhost) by kirk.rvdp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nAPKVLCm007078 for 76attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:31:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rvdp) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:31:21 +0100 From: Ronald van der Pol To: 76attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <20091125203121.GC257@rvdp.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UPT3ojh+0CqEDtpF" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: [76attendees] question about IETF76 logo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:31:30 -0000 --UPT3ojh+0CqEDtpF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I never found the answer to this: Is the fish (koi?) in the IETF76 logo related to Hiroshima somehow? I saw it also on the pavement near the Ana hotel. rvdp --UPT3ojh+0CqEDtpF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAksNlBkACgkQQKieiDfP4G64QACfSTg37hGdhumggLvGCMf8BaIb uTkAoJYWVPrDqO82UV3vaA/4FF83jTlj =yfq1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UPT3ojh+0CqEDtpF-- From randy@psg.com Wed Nov 25 12:51:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D6F3A6B45 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:51:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.536 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.536 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.796, BAYES_20=-0.74] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pPDcRRVtHeLp for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:50:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600693A689E for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:50:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rmac.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.70 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NDOp8-000I9c-Nu; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:50:50 +0000 Received: from rmac.local.psg.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rmac.psg.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2413D2C43AFF; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:50:50 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:50:50 +0900 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Ronald van der Pol In-Reply-To: <20091125203121.GC257@rvdp.org> References: <20091125203121.GC257@rvdp.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] question about IETF76 logo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:51:00 -0000 > Is the fish (koi?) in the IETF76 logo related to Hiroshima somehow? not particularly that i know. certainly to japan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koi and you might have seen them in ponds and streams. they are plentiful and get pretty big. randy From rdv@sfc.wide.ad.jp Wed Nov 25 13:16:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308AB3A6B54 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:16:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.904 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.904 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dkgm5bmdJOdP for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:16:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0633A6B6A for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:16:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from rdvmac.fletsphone (63.25.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp [125.30.25.63]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A74CA4C0D3; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:16:35 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <1725F32F-3194-43A9-B7D1-3AF1A76F1929@sfc.wide.ad.jp> From: Rodney Van Meter To: Ronald van der Pol In-Reply-To: <20091125203121.GC257@rvdp.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-51--443762598; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:16:35 +0900 References: <20091125203121.GC257@rvdp.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] question about IETF76 logo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:16:45 -0000 --Apple-Mail-51--443762598 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, there is the fact that the Hiroshima pro baseball team is the Carp, but beyond that I'm not aware of any connection. --Rod --Apple-Mail-51--443762598 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIKYDCCBFEw ggI5oAMCAQICAh+5MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMEUxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkpQMRUwEwYDVQQKEwxXSURF 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(PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99B53A6820 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:24:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from S73602b (cpe-76-182-230-135.tx.res.rr.com [76.182.230.135]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MGCND-1NPlvk2qd5-00FA3F; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:24:11 -0500 Message-ID: <0984A86D642E479DA5FF5012A8D0BA29@china.huawei.com> From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: "Randy Bush" , "Ronald van der Pol" References: <20091125203121.GC257@rvdp.org> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:24:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/CCC0Oufje71x9bQfv6cJ3zmmirKWB2PUpeYT Fr1aPCbnBUeTC8SV52Lpupe2PBFuOr/wP+DWCj3XEzj0VRlDG3 i4QR6PtuF+PhdlsLmKeYg3FVfTdH87JQodOhxjpWcQ= Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] question about IETF76 logo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:24:27 -0000 >> Is the fish (koi?) in the IETF76 logo related to Hiroshima somehow? > > not particularly that i know. certainly to japan. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koi > > and you might have seen them in ponds and streams. they are plentiful > and get pretty big. > > randy I tripped over at least one answer to this one while shopping for gifts for a seventh-grader. That's the name of the Hiroshima baseball team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroshima_Toyo_Carp). And if you can imagine starting a baseball team four years after the atomic bombing ... well, all I can say is, wow. No idea why that name was selected, of course. A little further poking turned up http://www.hiroshima.ws/prewar.html, which says "But most identify city's origins in 1589, when Terumoto Mori built Carp Castle along the Ohta River" - so it's not JUST a baseball thing. Thanks, Spencer From scott.brim@gmail.com Wed Nov 25 13:33:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F5B3A68CF for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:33:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.59 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.59 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.009, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SrTZVNUNmtu6 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:33:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qy0-f203.google.com (mail-qy0-f203.google.com [209.85.221.203]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBEC3A6B52 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:32:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by qyk41 with SMTP id 41so64898qyk.29 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:32:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Fu7Z7Kz3CxMT75U4LDiWYJ+OxJLfXI9rdKRa8E6usUM=; b=cIZhkP55NcqdFzLrk3Ns8VBPbyd05GIWEjzfP2G/gyCpMdkte3odDB83jUVlj7545l NLPW0lD//FWLlXCcnMOJ34Fl2hKRNP3mbatFHjDR/FK/mblqK3jy9zckbkIWMI3qPdJl Af+ouC40WOH5MU4vG+fZBpPM+NLi99t+2Yv20= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=OMjV1mRVTVIxbzanE5FmbV4s7MoYwuN+AuBe4/cZm0Sqo/RUvy1GrjMfpOxgSu0mzo DtN9oshysjZ7nPL25OP5NeCmIUnIyZHjCkyMF97wlaBz8Sevqim7TcZo2GaP+sqaYilK JMEFZKk6l8rF+TbHrBpPVnIkM99eMiIYlsmZg= Received: by 10.224.74.129 with SMTP id u1mr4276274qaj.36.1259184771721; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbrim-mbp.local (198-135-0-233.cisco.com [198.135.0.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm40153qyk.14.2009.11.25.13.32.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:32:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B0DA280.6070105@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:32:48 -0500 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Spencer Dawkins References: <20091125203121.GC257@rvdp.org> <0984A86D642E479DA5FF5012A8D0BA29@china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <0984A86D642E479DA5FF5012A8D0BA29@china.huawei.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] question about IETF76 logo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:33:01 -0000 The baseball team is named after the castle. The castle is named after Carp Inlet (koi no ura). From rpelletier@isoc.org Wed Nov 25 13:38:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141DA3A6B61 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:38:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.432 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.432 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.167, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D3fwq0EnLdQu for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:38:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp141.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp141.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.141]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305033A6950 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:38:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay24.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay24.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1795B1B409D; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:38:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay24.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 072BE1B4095; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:38:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: From: Ray Pelletier To: Scott Brim In-Reply-To: <4B0DA280.6070105@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:38:37 -0500 References: <20091125203121.GC257@rvdp.org> <0984A86D642E479DA5FF5012A8D0BA29@china.huawei.com> <4B0DA280.6070105@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] question about IETF76 logo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:38:44 -0000 According to the concierge at the ANA and a shopkeeper, The Koi, or the Carp, is known for its ability to overcome adversity-- apparently ,in the wild, it swims upriver to spawn. Therefore, when the city was looking for a logo for the baseball team and a logo for the city, the Koi/Carp was chosen. It can be clearly said that the City has overcome adversity. Ray On Nov 25, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Scott Brim wrote: > The baseball team is named after the castle. The castle is named > after > Carp Inlet (koi no ura). > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees From tme@americafree.tv Wed Nov 25 13:49:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B793A6B89 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:49:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.545 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.545 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.054, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OVy8IBK+f5Nz for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.americafree.tv (rossini.americafree.tv [63.105.122.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655803A6B85 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (rossini.americafree.tv [63.105.122.34]) by mail.americafree.tv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C3954E8A1F; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:49:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: From: Marshall Eubanks To: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:49:13 -0500 References: <20091125203121.GC257@rvdp.org> <0984A86D642E479DA5FF5012A8D0BA29@china.huawei.com> <4B0DA280.6070105@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org, Scott Brim Subject: Re: [76attendees] question about IETF76 logo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:49:19 -0000 The Hiroshima castle is also nicknamed after the carp. I think that the city has a long relationship with both the regular and the ornamental varieties of carp. Regards Marshall On Nov 25, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > According to the concierge at the ANA and a shopkeeper, The Koi, or > the Carp, is known for its ability to overcome adversity-- > apparently ,in the wild, it swims upriver to spawn. Therefore, when > the city was looking for a logo for the baseball team and a logo for > the city, the Koi/Carp was chosen. > > It can be clearly said that the City has overcome adversity. > > Ray > > On Nov 25, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Scott Brim wrote: > >> The baseball team is named after the castle. The castle is named >> after >> Carp Inlet (koi no ura). >> _______________________________________________ >> 76attendees mailing list >> 76attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 76attendees mailing list > 76attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/76attendees > From rvdp@rvdp.org Wed Nov 25 14:09:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B49B3A6B89 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:09:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XU-BPKvDOSts for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:09:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from kirk.rvdp.org (kirk.rvdp.org [IPv6:2001:610:108:87::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A45E3A6B45 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:09:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from kirk.rvdp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kirk.rvdp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAPM9QjK008403; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:09:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rvdp@kirk.rvdp.org) Received: (from rvdp@localhost) by kirk.rvdp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nAPM9Qp7008402; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:09:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rvdp) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:09:26 +0100 From: Ronald van der Pol To: Ray Pelletier Message-ID: <20091125220926.GE257@rvdp.org> References: <20091125203121.GC257@rvdp.org> <0984A86D642E479DA5FF5012A8D0BA29@china.huawei.com> <4B0DA280.6070105@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="idY8LE8SD6/8DnRI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org>, Scott Brim Subject: Re: [76attendees] question about IETF76 logo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:09:34 -0000 --idY8LE8SD6/8DnRI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 22:38:37 +0100, Ray Pelletier wrote: > According to the concierge at the ANA and a shopkeeper, The Koi, or =20 > the Carp, is known for its ability to overcome adversity-- =20 > apparently ,in the wild, it swims upriver to spawn. Therefore, when =20 > the city was looking for a logo for the baseball team and a logo for =20 > the city, the Koi/Carp was chosen. OK, thanks for the information! Looks like the word "carp" is used, but not the specific IETF76 picture. At least I cannot find it. This seems to be the baseball team logo: http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?id=3Dmqqkevfxtg6ry1mikrgv And this the city's: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Hiroshima_City.svg rvdp --idY8LE8SD6/8DnRI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAksNqxYACgkQQKieiDfP4G5ImwCfaB01DYSgIEwiLDoT6gHcfCEf 7PUAnjKI8Nls40cg/rYg2XA/plDKqOpE =osYV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --idY8LE8SD6/8DnRI-- From gg55go@gmail.com Wed Nov 25 18:00:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0007D3A6805 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:00:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VqJgbfOO8oyO for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:00:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f174.google.com (mail-yx0-f174.google.com [209.85.210.174]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D4A3A67FA for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:00:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by yxe4 with SMTP id 4so322646yxe.32 for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:00:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fWEE1QUTRBXLHgZ/bREac1C8M851QfE/0yXEyJAJO6A=; b=VA9rkvyUmHnW1KzDZU05yLutegfIfBlg6QGY5QqDkUUAD+MnPisafF/k+kUY+y0Agm boNx8FVo365AqBzsqXfGDuiBevTUvsle46naWoTZshWThdXNxGF+YSub5zIfV37cm3+7 XziZLUX1zvCGAgZ49DZYzLsULfrf4d1Dtkg/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XObhbY5zjMM5SITW6Ssc+no2twM/fU0MiAnGy1rPadiWLgZaHA1PJd8fMopOwYGOdb ElQnfXQ1OgeyunYz9KtzbPKkbi5zVo8yd5Y8dyrDxSY+ITiupWwIE+qlAapA+b5m64l1 2hbghhsAvHIaOzrGiMP7OTe7ye3GYEzq2U6NU= Received: by 10.150.129.25 with SMTP id b25mr14781945ybd.308.1259200810446; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:00:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.157? (g54.neu.co.jp [61.194.28.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm95468ywc.51.2009.11.25.18.00.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:00:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B0DE120.1080605@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:00:00 +0900 From: Go Kawaguchi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Brim References: <20091125203121.GC257@rvdp.org> <0984A86D642E479DA5FF5012A8D0BA29@china.huawei.com> <4B0DA280.6070105@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B0DA280.6070105@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 76attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [76attendees] question about IETF76 logo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:00:21 -0000 Right! According the article, http://apike.ca/japan_hiroshima-castle.html Hiroshima Castle is built on the Ota River delta. The area at the fork of the Ota River was called Koi-no-ura (Carp Inlet) so the castle was nicknamed "Carp Castle". Go Kawaguchi From: Scott Brim Date: Thu Nov 26 2009 06:32:48 GMT+0900 > The baseball team is named after the castle. The castle is named after > Carp Inlet (koi no ura). From suna@wide.ad.jp Sun Nov 29 21:26:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 76attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD5D3A6835 for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:26:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.51 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z95nlU29AA6w for <76attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:26:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mo11.iij4u.or.jp (mo11.iij4u.or.jp [210.138.174.79]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1FB3A67EE for <76attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:26:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by mo.iij4u.or.jp (mo11) id nAU5QAGW012203; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:26:10 +0900 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([133.99.208.132]) by mbox.iij4u.or.jp (mbox10) id nAU5Q9nO011480 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:26:10 +0900 Message-ID: <4B13576F.2090307@wide.ad.jp> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:26:07 +0900 From: Hideki Sunahara User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ronald van der Pol References: <20091125203121.GC257@rvdp.org> <0984A86D642E479DA5FF5012A8D0BA29@china.huawei.com> <4B0DA280.6070105@gmail.com> <20091125220926.GE257@rvdp.org> In-Reply-To: <20091125220926.GE257@rvdp.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "76attendees@ietf.org" <76attendees@ietf.org>, Scott Brim Subject: Re: [76attendees] question about IETF76 logo X-BeenThere: 76attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <76attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:26:20 -0000 This logo is a dedicated design for IETF76 by Prof. Hisao Oikawa of Hiroshima City University. He was attended social program and Jun introduce him in host plenary on Wednesday. >From his word, he saw TV program which shows that it becomes popular as hobby of breeding carps in Los Angeles. Carp can represent culture of Japan. Of course, carp is name of pro baseball team in Hiroshima. So, he decided to use carp as IETF76 Logo. This is story of Logo. >> According to the concierge at the ANA and a shopkeeper, The Koi, or >> the Carp, is known for its ability to overcome adversity-- >> apparently ,in the wild, it swims upriver to spawn. Therefore, when >> the city was looking for a logo for the baseball team and a logo for >> the city, the Koi/Carp was chosen. >> > > OK, thanks for the information! Looks like the word "carp" is > used, but not the specific IETF76 picture. At least I cannot find it. > > This seems to be the baseball team logo: > http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?id=mqqkevfxtg6ry1mikrgv > > And this the city's: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Hiroshima_City.svg > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hideki Sunahara Graduate School of Media Design, Keio University|E-Mail: suna@wide.ad.jp