From craemer@isoc.org Tue Jul 10 10:30:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB2421F86F6 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 10:30:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.954 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.954 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.310, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GRYuV-H-dcNn for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 10:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp111.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp111.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.111]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC42D21F864E for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 10:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp11.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C1568D0BA9 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:31:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp11.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: craemer-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 2D69CD0B93 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:31:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Craemer Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-84-709537192 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:31:13 -0400 Message-Id: To: 84attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [84attendees] ISOC@IETF 84 Briefing Panel - World IPv6: Launched! X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:30:47 -0000 --Apple-Mail-84-709537192 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The Internet Society is organizing a briefing panel on Tuesday, 31 July, = from 11:45am to 12:45pm, at IETF 84 in Vancouver. World IPv6: Launched! On June 6, 2012, more than 50 access providers and thousands of websites = around the globe joined together in establishing IPv6 as the "new = normal" for the Internet. Participating content providers turned on = IPv6 on their main sites -- for good. Participating access providers = are offering IPv6 by default to their customers, and have at least 1% of = their traffic to major websites over IPv6.=20 At a high level, it is clear that this represents a significant, = concrete step forward in the deployment of operational IPv6 in the = Internet. Uptake of IPv6 is not evenly distributed across all access = networks for a variety of reasons and there is clearly still much work = to do. This panel will share more specific numbers and perspectives = outlining the impact of World IPv6 Launch. Additional information on the briefing panel is available at: http://www.internetsociety.org/isoc-panel-ietf-84 Due to high demand at previous Internet Society panel events and limited = space, we are providing you with advance information about registration. = Online registration will open in two time blocks to account for the = broad range of home timezones of IETF participants. Half of the = available seats will be open for registration at 09:00 UTC on Monday, 16 = July, and the other half will be made available at 21:00 UTC. Look for = a registration form link at the webpage above at these times. For those unable to attend, we plan to provide a live (and archived) = audiocast, information on which will also be available at the above = webpage. Kevin Craemer Senior Events Manager Internet Society craemer@isoc.org --Apple-Mail-84-709537192 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii The = Internet Society is organizing a briefing panel on Tuesday, 31 July, = from 11:45am to 12:45pm, at IETF 84 in Vancouver.

World = IPv6:  Launched!

On June 6, 2012, more than 50 access = providers and thousands of websites around the globe joined together in = establishing IPv6 as the "new normal" for the Internet. =  Participating content providers turned on IPv6 on their main sites = -- for good.  Participating access providers are offering IPv6 by = default to their customers, and have at least 1% of their traffic to = major websites over IPv6. 

At a high level, it is clear that = this represents a significant, concrete step forward in the deployment = of operational IPv6 in the Internet. Uptake of IPv6 is not evenly = distributed across all access networks for a variety of reasons and = there is clearly still much work to do.  This panel will share more = specific numbers and perspectives outlining the impact of World IPv6 = Launch.

Additional information on the briefing panel is = available at:
http://www.inte= rnetsociety.org/isoc-panel-ietf-84

Due to high demand at = previous Internet Society panel events and limited space, we are = providing you with advance information about registration.  Online = registration will open in two time blocks to account for the broad range = of home timezones of IETF participants.  Half of the available = seats will be open for registration at 09:00 UTC on Monday, 16 July, and = the other half will be made available at 21:00 UTC.  Look for a = registration form link at the webpage above at these times.

For = those unable to attend, we plan to provide a live (and archived) = audiocast, information on which will also be available at the above = webpage.

Kevin Craemer
Senior Events Manager
Internet = Society
craemer@isoc.org

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-0700 (PDT) Received: from M4.sparta.com (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5C421F85AD for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Beta5.sparta.com (beta5.sparta.com [157.185.63.21]) by M4.sparta.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6CHtpCs005004; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:55:51 -0500 Received: from Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com ([157.185.80.107]) by Beta5.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6CHtaHZ010442; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:55:39 -0500 Received: from HERMES.columbia.ads.sparta.com ([2002:9db9:506b::9db9:506b]) by Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com ([2002:9db9:506b::9db9:506b]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.002; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:56:00 -0400 From: "Murphy, Sandra" To: Eric Burger , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [84attendees] Arrival ride-share Thread-Index: AQHNX9/vE6MyTPfffkqzi6rWjZAgo5cl6uM2 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:55:59 +0000 Message-ID: <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F318FC@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> References: <06DF7F5B-4596-408B-B39B-3990D1D226AA@standardstrack.com> In-Reply-To: <06DF7F5B-4596-408B-B39B-3990D1D226AA@standardstrack.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [157.185.63.137] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [84attendees] Arrival ride-share X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:55:20 -0000 Looks like public transit also works. There's a skytrain line from the air= port that ends at the waterford station. The hotel is 3 1/2 blocks from th= e City Centre station on that line, and right next to the burrard station, = which is a transfer and one stop away from the waterford station.=0A= =0A= http://www.translink.ca/~/media/images/content/schedules_and_maps/transit%2= 0maps/transit%20connections/transit_connections_clicktoenlarge.ashx=0A= =0A= Oh, and this is already covered on the ietf84 meeting site:=0A= =0A= http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/vancouverairport=0A= =0A= Incidentally, when I was there a month ago, there was confusion about where= to get tickets for the shuttle. The sign at the (unattended) outside shut= tle desk said that tickets had to be purchased inside, but no one at the in= formation desks inside knew where.=0A= =0A= --Sandy=0A= =0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf= of Eric Burger [eburger@standardstrack.com]=0A= Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:38 PM=0A= To: 84attendees@ietf.org=0A= Subject: [84attendees] Arrival ride-share=0A= =0A= Don't forget to signup at:=0A= http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/84arrivals=0A= From tbray@textuality.com Thu Jul 12 11:18:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C87A21F85B6 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:18:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.872 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.872 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.896, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AMgT74nvWnfS for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2BA21F8606 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so3892200obb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:19:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=RPDhcE4A8ie8ZPEDaKPWajcJVA5BYeQUpXzDSgRFfu0=; b=QtWrRRIwMs/JHJPIny3th0fMgbb4QATOtIz9+A2A2vIWlENyOMyk63t4ZsAn2vpPD1 hI6BWDd+qf8pSttm9v2LX0O9lPQVh1z+46jrOajZv4sZss9kLe+SQ3bCPf/FQQUUQgMz IHgKhXFx0e5Z8NRwIvSPaEIhPMSN9HBxlpPsNn1M7A++c3ZHInnGg1VuvY6YgwzjpjWE Fl0xp3P2csCDnE5e1HSctFB9Ks122MWlHd3LPswB+IsucBH105HWDAP6XWYjqIkSaamP t8nAmO9ZVg3zehW3g/Pnu9vUNvrOq9nMrYs8RpTrqlFBKfOxkxlyVD+ETR+MUUqQtxgy qGgg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.157.84 with SMTP id wk20mr45485306obb.57.1342117158878; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.75.38 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:19:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [24.84.212.180] In-Reply-To: <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F318FC@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> References: <06DF7F5B-4596-408B-B39B-3990D1D226AA@standardstrack.com> <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F318FC@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:19:18 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Bray To: "Murphy, Sandra" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04428b82807d9a04c4a600d8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkY1IIlltxsJxoiJKBkVelP1GM70RW0zyWk/LFp6zxF1fdaBBqJRuHB53juL5tk2kmQlLkp Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Eric Burger Subject: Re: [84attendees] Arrival ride-share X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:18:46 -0000 --f46d04428b82807d9a04c4a600d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use this service all the time. You walk out of the airport following the signs for the Canada Line and stick your credit card in the machine there, buy a ticket, and get on board. It=92s fast and convenient and scenic for the first 5 minutes until you go underground. But the economics are weird... 1. The fare to downtown is $3.75 during business hours, $2.50 otherwise, but... 2. if you just buy it on the platform, there=92s a $5.00 squeeze-the-tourists surcharge, so that=92s $8.75/$7.50 total, and... 3. the taxi to downtown is ~$35, and a little faster (except for morning rush hour) and more scenic, and there are usually no lineups, so... 4. if there are 3 or more of you, the taxi starts to look like a good deal, except for... 5. you can get =93FareCards=94, what the natives use, and dodge the extr= a $5, but... 6. they=92re only sold in the 7-11 and Pharmasave in the Domestic terminal, which is a 5-10 minute walk from the International termal that IETFers will probably be arriving at, and... 7. they=92re only sold in books of 10, mind you... 8. they=92re discounted; 10 $3.75 tickets for $31.50. There ya go. One thing seems clear: For *leaving* the IETF and going back to the airport, someone ought to organize the buying of a few books of tickets and everyone will save a lot of money. Also the trains are ultra-modern, driverless, and kind of slick, and contain an interesting cross-section of Vancouverites. For getting into town, if you could organize someone to buy books of tickets and mail them to you, that=92s a win. And if there are some flight= s from places like the Bay Area & Austin that are going to be bulging with IETFers, and don=92t mind the side-trip to buy the tickets, that seems plausible. But if I were coming in and had some combination of heavy luggage, late-night arrival time, or traveling companions, I=92d just hop a cab. -T On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Murphy, Sandra wrote: > Looks like public transit also works. There's a skytrain line from the > airport that ends at the waterford station. The hotel is 3 1/2 blocks fr= om > the City Centre station on that line, and right next to the burrard > station, which is a transfer and one stop away from the waterford station= . > > > http://www.translink.ca/~/media/images/content/schedules_and_maps/transit= %20maps/transit%20connections/transit_connections_clicktoenlarge.ashx > > Oh, and this is already covered on the ietf84 meeting site: > > http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/vancouverairport > > Incidentally, when I was there a month ago, there was confusion about > where to get tickets for the shuttle. The sign at the (unattended) outsi= de > shuttle desk said that tickets had to be purchased inside, but no one at > the information desks inside knew where. > > --Sandy > > ________________________________________ > From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] on > behalf of Eric Burger [eburger@standardstrack.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:38 PM > To: 84attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [84attendees] Arrival ride-share > > Don't forget to signup at: > http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/84arrivals > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > --f46d04428b82807d9a04c4a600d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use this service all the time. =A0You walk out of the airport following t= he signs for the Canada Line and stick your credit card in the machine ther= e, buy a ticket, and get on board. =A0It=92s fast and convenient and scenic= for the first 5 minutes until you go underground. =A0

But the economics are weird...
  1. The fare to downt= own is $3.75 during business hours, $2.50 otherwise, but...
  2. if you = just buy it on the platform, there=92s a $5.00 squeeze-the-tourists surchar= ge, so that=92s $8.75/$7.50 total, and...
  3. the taxi to downtown is ~$35, and a little faster (except for morning r= ush hour) and more scenic, and there are usually no lineups, so...
  4. = if there are 3 or more of you, the taxi starts to look like a good deal, ex= cept for...
  5. you can get =93FareCards=94, what the natives use, and dodge the extra = $5, but...
  6. they=92re only sold in the 7-11 and Pharmasave in the Do= mestic terminal, which is a 5-10 minute walk from the International termal = that IETFers will probably be arriving at, and...
  7. they=92re only sold in books of 10, mind you...
  8. they=92re disco= unted; 10 $3.75 tickets for $31.50.
There ya go.
<= div>
One thing seems clear: =A0For *leaving* the IETF and goi= ng back to the airport, someone ought to organize the buying of a few books= of tickets and everyone will save a lot of money. =A0Also the trains are u= ltra-modern, driverless, and kind of slick, and contain an interesting cros= s-section of Vancouverites.

For getting into town, if you could organize someone to= buy books of tickets and mail them to you, that=92s a win. =A0And if there= are some flights from places like the Bay Area & Austin that are going= to be bulging with IETFers, and don=92t mind the side-trip to buy the tick= ets, that seems plausible.

But if I were coming in and had some combination of hea= vy luggage, late-night arrival time, or traveling companions, I=92d just ho= p a cab. =A0-T


On Thu, Jul 12,= 2012 at 10:55 AM, Murphy, Sandra <Sandra.Murphy@sparta.com>= wrote:
Looks like public transit also works. =A0The= re's a skytrain line from the airport that ends at the waterford statio= n. =A0The hotel is 3 1/2 blocks from the City Centre station on that line, = and right next to the burrard station, which is a transfer and one stop awa= y from the waterford station.

http://www.translink.ca/~/media/images/content/sched= ules_and_maps/transit%20maps/transit%20connections/transit_connections_clic= ktoenlarge.ashx

Oh, and this is already covered on the ietf84 meeting site:

http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/van= couverairport

Incidentally, when I was there a month ago, there was confusion about where= to get tickets for the shuttle. =A0The sign at the (unattended) outside sh= uttle desk said that tickets had to be purchased inside, but no one at the = information desks inside knew where.

--Sandy

________________________________________
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--f46d04428b82807d9a04c4a600d8-- From johnl@taugh.com Thu Jul 12 11:43:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325A411E80ED for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:43:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UFAncH++PnFu for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9880711E80E9 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 800 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2012 18:44:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=31f.4fff1b09.k1207; bh=xEhUbEZESzkhTlgVzBj3fIbcoIHY6E0XQm6pTdz9OBE=; b=s0o2TXP20+P8lIejVImPKRyRqEq1uccgA0Jh28sGNcLNmAeykQGbQ2oMtzP+vcuDQLGz9LQ9/onwSIMTPSd+RhaNOPRBTImdm4bn2r2dOTh4s3aRstgyEyOwWg3PjntKlTXtwMa0AM1Vq7BpQoafc2z24hpmaJ4WGflXorLwxHE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=31f.4fff1b09.k1207; bh=xEhUbEZESzkhTlgVzBj3fIbcoIHY6E0XQm6pTdz9OBE=; b=rl1iPuzHwInsaGyPwb8mujwue1iUpkyKMXSCvKyM6ysi4U/iYVvCKvvamK2HK++oRDV6KUr9DPoMfxIv5qJXIIUBoV+E6zfdiGmD5qoqv2BcuRFkj8Aw8s/CsvsU9UaPasEhaS9xsbrcMkFduGNPmrq4iomn3r3xWD05kLwGm6Q= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 12 Jul 2012 18:44:03 -0000 Date: 12 Jul 2012 14:44:24 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: "Murphy, Sandra" In-Reply-To: <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F318FC@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> References: <06DF7F5B-4596-408B-B39B-3990D1D226AA@standardstrack.com> <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F318FC@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Arrival ride-share X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:43:56 -0000 > Looks like public transit also works. For anyone who can walk three blocks, the skytrain is by far the best way to get to and from the airport. Follow the signs to the Canada Line, buy a ticket from the machine on the platform (cash or plastic accepted), and take the train to the Vancouver City Centre station. Walk a block west on W Georgia St to Burrard, turn right for the Hyatt, left for the Sheraton. If you think you will be using the bus or train during the week, you can get a discounted pack of ten tickets at the 7-11 or drugstore in the airport. Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly. From david.black@emc.com Thu Jul 12 12:24:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052AB11E80CD for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:24:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.506 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.506 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.093, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qkLvHm1YzkT5 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexforward.lss.emc.com (hop-nat-141.emc.com [168.159.213.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEE311E809B for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hop04-l1d11-si01.isus.emc.com (HOP04-L1D11-SI01.isus.emc.com [10.254.111.54]) by mexforward.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id q6CJOqFb012015 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:24:52 -0400 Received: from mailhub.lss.emc.com (mailhub.lss.emc.com [10.254.222.129]) by hop04-l1d11-si01.isus.emc.com (RSA Interceptor); Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:24:40 -0400 Received: from mxhub03.corp.emc.com (mxhub03.corp.emc.com [10.254.141.105]) by mailhub.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id q6CJOdgS028049; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:24:40 -0400 Received: from mx15a.corp.emc.com ([169.254.1.189]) by mxhub03.corp.emc.com ([10.254.141.105]) with mapi; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:24:39 -0400 From: To: Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:24:38 -0400 Thread-Topic: [84attendees] Arrival ride-share Thread-Index: Ac1gXng5PdjDIt2hRyy9FsVI02oiGwABLxvg Message-ID: <8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE71208D3B4B5@MX15A.corp.emc.com> References: <06DF7F5B-4596-408B-B39B-3990D1D226AA@standardstrack.com> <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F318FC@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-EMM-MHVC: 1 Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Arrival ride-share X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:24:20 -0000 Be aware that the fare cards for travel to/from the airport are 2-zone card= s, but the fare around downtown is a 1-zone fare, $2.50 cash, which is cheaper than a 2-zone fare card. The zone map is linked to the arrival page on the= wiki. Also, a day pass is $9.00 at the airport 7-11 or drug store, only 25 cents = more than the daytime $8.75 fare to downtown, and is good on the entire transit system (including busses) for the rest of the day. Before boarding a train= , or when getting on a bus, remember to validate any fare card or day pass th= at wasn't bought from a ticket vending machine in a station. Thanks, --David > -----Original Message----- > From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = On > Behalf Of John R Levine > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 2:44 PM > To: Murphy, Sandra > Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [84attendees] Arrival ride-share >=20 > > Looks like public transit also works. >=20 > For anyone who can walk three blocks, the skytrain is by far the best way > to get to and from the airport. Follow the signs to the Canada Line, buy > a ticket from the machine on the platform (cash or plastic accepted), and > take the train to the Vancouver City Centre station. Walk a block west o= n > W Georgia St to Burrard, turn right for the Hyatt, left for the Sheraton. >=20 > If you think you will be using the bus or train during the week, you can > get a discounted pack of ten tickets at the 7-11 or drugstore in the > airport. >=20 > Regards, > John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY > "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly. > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From johnl@taugh.com Thu Jul 12 12:32:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522DA21F855B for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:32:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ukcaQyvQtyih for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5531021F8557 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8690 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2012 19:33:16 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=21f1.4fff267c.k1207; bh=YHjbp61x7uDDZ+Mt4R1JVn6QuK2qtnfk+5KbeeXb6eM=; b=JMrQq40jZO/07G0Bn8u1YhBU7cmVGxZv7Q2KUjby76etQs0iLXQYAS+z6NIqES9jp0BA++iLVjQWmsowikZwrkg9+hELa39a5lYywsFJlEskaYDB8U8SPY0ppeTZ7KA0P+aqng0bOFd6lS2B4+GVJds0Ed4FMh7nsWyo3+1f2c0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=21f1.4fff267c.k1207; bh=YHjbp61x7uDDZ+Mt4R1JVn6QuK2qtnfk+5KbeeXb6eM=; b=Ur81F5zZ9hsqb2B4zYbpk/ji40LNnBD6rZd7dAfXvqMqROxiWvRdEOJ4RQE1py+3fthI/Vyc+HmrPg95Xcj2x6/uYKSHfHUUryD/pQj6K55x7ubdij/4N9wwoOAyxlD8ZkOf5sTQleBohyznIUqZPpKFQ5KZhW04QonJlICpLlA= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 12 Jul 2012 19:32:54 -0000 Date: 12 Jul 2012 15:33:16 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: david.black@emc.com In-Reply-To: <8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE71208D3B4B5@MX15A.corp.emc.com> References: <06DF7F5B-4596-408B-B39B-3990D1D226AA@standardstrack.com> <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F318FC@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> <8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE71208D3B4B5@MX15A.corp.emc.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Arrival ride-share X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:32:44 -0000 > Be aware that the fare cards for travel to/from the airport are 2-zone cards, > but the fare around downtown is a 1-zone fare, $2.50 cash, which is cheaper > than a 2-zone fare card. The zone map is linked to the arrival page on the wiki. Well, if we're getting detailed, the train between the airport and downtown requires a 2-zone fare before 6:30 PM. After 6:30 and on weekends, a 1-zone ticket is valid for all trips. I plan to get a book of 1-zone tickets, and get a $1.25 addfare from ticket machines for the trips that are two zones. If you buy a single ticket from the airport, there is a $5 airport surcharge, but not if you upgrade a ticket from a 10-trip book. R's, John From johnl@taugh.com Thu Jul 12 21:13:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A5011E810C for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:13:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W3JM-g7tY4vB for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDCD11E80CF for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10733 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2012 04:13:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=29ec.4fffa081.k1207; bh=sNz1sBH8dZhDkiGRKnMranNbKEa4+dx/BWbukCaUV6Y=; b=Wi7ihywupYxIOIiVfiFUJNFdnuK1qBxZvHWxCVgdaju/VwWmS3dkKIq56GEkxTyiib4Dz+N/NSMTDmaDU+EvZRR4diTBKIfGXkRqu4+2qJwh6rDl6e4KDqos3wx7fVPhKILcsraDs02B5I8e1B+957EU5bRx6VSzhkcslcChrmg= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=29ec.4fffa081.k1207; bh=sNz1sBH8dZhDkiGRKnMranNbKEa4+dx/BWbukCaUV6Y=; b=SxCvhU4i5qatO+Gkn5Lzji+EapHAwQNEKJTVRYJGEj2OrHebs7J4SxetfIRzMF0bNikHIHCVYBPn1xsuogAH6nCdCn2qJ9qJtUsTSvkSmMTmk0p/VSGDRwWNmbTEfgyKu4F546tSSKZbXKa2JvoWC9Mct1p4I8JS35w5LZn+A7M= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 13 Jul 2012 04:13:31 -0000 Date: 13 Jul 2012 00:13:53 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: "Michael Richardson" In-Reply-To: <14233.1342125802@herring.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> References: <06DF7F5B-4596-408B-B39B-3990D1D226AA@standardstrack.com> <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F318FC@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> <8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE71208D3B4B5@MX15A.corp.emc.com> <14233.1342125802@herring.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Arrival ride-share X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 04:13:20 -0000 > John> If you buy a single ticket from the airport, there is a $5 > John> airport surcharge, > John> but not if you upgrade a ticket from a 10-trip book. > > So, get the 10-trip book, add $1.25 (this is done at a machine?) to it > for the airport trip, and use the other tickets around town. That's my plan. If several people arrive at the same time, you can share the ticket book. You can get the $1.25 add-fare from the machine on the platform. Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly. From tbray@textuality.com Thu Jul 12 22:19:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352E421F875E for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:19:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.725, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zrfnvIXn-f1p for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675CB21F8742 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so4663983obb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:19:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=PwdYFL0FoYVMvMDCnKK9aGa0RMSG6KEW27S29XkaZVA=; b=ZuWpQLpPEgwGWyKP9OHdZAZextntsannVKcOz2ce3DRqlepWj0eR09venGIPz1LcS9 I9qe/jYUHohXanme9YiI/1DIMn85PeaXXrqwJm3/6a24NiyN0lNI3Vsy2wCwg+j+XmLf i9Yqsb9qLH2430j96TAZNoEPD+gUo4XtT2RlVtZfPeA9exhVd6GLT68gjBndTGRc9t5o 2A3j+VbF6AmhL1btVmcnnNeSK8QUPv/99MLx67Cp+1a5x1s9Z3yAIrLiJTa75Fn6r298 yNzDsW75+CS6Fp7bCqCLYdMCYIE/aJlOfjfzWYkOvNoyC9Ks4XH5Nu7eN1ol7uVH2ID7 Vofw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.144.68 with SMTP id sk4mr1348994obb.0.1342156786100; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.75.38 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:19:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [24.84.235.32] In-Reply-To: <13003.1342117969@herring.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> References: <06DF7F5B-4596-408B-B39B-3990D1D226AA@standardstrack.com> <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F318FC@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> <13003.1342117969@herring.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:19:46 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Bray To: Michael Richardson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9399ce777e92504c4af3a33 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm6Ftx7jSRISRfy7kHGQ18gqnYooJusj2/91jgCPjE9p2o16QMBljmLPgoXBXO+zWJJ8uJN Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Arrival ride-share X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 05:19:12 -0000 --14dae9399ce777e92504c4af3a33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 7-year-old needs a =93concession=94 (cheaper) ticket. -T On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Michael Richardson wrot= e: > > >>>>> "Tim" =3D=3D Tim Bray writes: > Tim> 5. you can get "FareCards", what the natives use, and dodge the > Tim> extra > Tim> $5, but... > > Tim> 6. they're only sold in the 7-11 and Pharmasave in the Domestic > Tim> terminal, which is a 5-10 minute walk from the International > termal that > Tim> IETFers will probably be arriving at, and... > > Tim> 7. they're only sold in books of 10, mind you... > Tim> 8. they're discounted; 10 $3.75 tickets for $31.50. > > So, since I'm arriving domestically, I got no walk, and I will want > tickets to get back, and some tickets to get around during the week, a > packet of 10 tickets sounds fine for my wife, son and I. > > Do 7 year olds need their own ticket? > > -- > ] He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life! | > firewalls [ > ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net > architect[ > ] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device > driver[ > Kyoto Plus: watch the video > > then sign the petition. > --14dae9399ce777e92504c4af3a33 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 7-year-old needs a =93concession=94 (cheaper) ticket. =A0-T

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Michael Richardson <mc= r@sandelman.ca> wrote:

>>>>> "Tim" =3D=3D Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> writes:
=A0 =A0 Tim> 5. you can get "FareCards", what the natives use,= and dodge the
=A0 =A0 Tim> extra
=A0 =A0 Tim> $5, but...

=A0 =A0 Tim> 6. they're only sold in the 7-11 and Pharmasave in the = Domestic
=A0 =A0 Tim> terminal, which is a 5-10 minute walk from the Internationa= l termal that
=A0 =A0 Tim> IETFers will probably be arriving at, and...

=A0 =A0 Tim> 7. they're only sold in books of 10, mind you...
=A0 =A0 Tim> 8. they're discounted; 10 $3.75 tickets for $31.50.

So, since I'm arriving domestically, I got no walk, and I will want
tickets to get back, and some tickets to get around during the week, a
packet of 10 tickets sounds fine for my wife, son and I.

Do 7 year olds need their own ticket?

--
] =A0 =A0 =A0 He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life! =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 | =A0firewalls =A0[
] =A0 Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON =A0 =A0|net = architect[
] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca<= /a> http:/= /www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
=A0 =A0Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dkzx= 1ycLXQSE>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0then sign the petition.

--14dae9399ce777e92504c4af3a33-- From tbray@textuality.com Fri Jul 13 07:24:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CF521F8797 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:24:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.55 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.574, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OpZWcFjFVqKU for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC5021F8759 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so5412369obb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:25:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=aojlqStBvTgAS4V3ndbeLpNG6Hlu/u9bUeNBGZ9m0rs=; b=CJwBECL/z4MzzYKZCXhi/hWzToPYoLCqgzHd6kXgpoKOfYaMJHYbx/FvfCwyQzlCfQ SGS9axeG0adBWqYLh/Xaw9Nn73IAoX6LFwUnsrJhXqJ3DlZREuzdXt9cgP+GKsxwdsJs ecJhrDSLa7nXEfGQDDgEBIgLndIb6wKgZixIJwGF7vt7K2sTracgsWt0ypKaVt21VsE8 IPfRnMFNeRJrf4JVPBrw44n+vPUnC7AzV0UhNp1UCY9efkSXzLKQjjfdn1qtwUr/FzvR Lz8UrY4gVlSLOgl95tJYQrEpbwl1JoHESWAUTrkWxb41ufZ+/TeWRzOOR8YVmYx49oNm UveA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.2.34 with SMTP id 2mr1899523oer.71.1342189512076; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.75.38 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:25:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [24.84.235.32] Received: by 10.182.75.38 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:25:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <25188.1342181454@herring.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> References: <06DF7F5B-4596-408B-B39B-3990D1D226AA@standardstrack.com> <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F318FC@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> <13003.1342117969@herring.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> <25188.1342181454@herring.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:25:12 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Bray To: Michael Richardson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb2060016ad6704c4b6d98f X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmxgoYVaD7p5kUV77v1Hp+VHxRUg2bfUG2UsFDHsaoegBmNsYIJ4EnYtCJ+5RMjlX5jM/Q7 Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Arrival ride-share X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 14:24:37 -0000 --e89a8fb2060016ad6704c4b6d98f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes. -T On Jul 13, 2012 5:10 AM, "Michael Richardson" wrote: > > >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Bray writes: > Tim> 7-year-old needs a "concession" (cheaper) ticket. -T > > To avoid buying a so many different things, will a regular ticket due? > > -- > ] He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life! | > firewalls [ > ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net > architect[ > ] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device > driver[ > Kyoto Plus: watch the video > > then sign the petition. > --e89a8fb2060016ad6704c4b6d98f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes. -T

On Jul 13, 2012 5:10 AM, "Michael Richardso= n" <mcr@sandelman.ca> wr= ote:

>>>>> "Tim" =3D=3D Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> writes:
=A0 =A0 Tim> 7-year-old needs a "concession" (cheaper) ticket.= =A0-T

To avoid buying a so many different things, will a regular ticket due?

--
] =A0 =A0 =A0 He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life! =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 | =A0firewalls =A0[
] =A0 Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON =A0 =A0|net = architect[
] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca<= /a> http:/= /www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
=A0 =A0Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dkzx= 1ycLXQSE>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0then sign the petition.
--e89a8fb2060016ad6704c4b6d98f-- From eburger@standardstrack.com Tue Jul 17 06:37:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7C021F8711 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:37:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -79.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-79.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, URIBL_SBL=20, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yy5sdSSPjZYP for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biz104.inmotionhosting.com (biz104.inmotionhosting.com [173.247.254.120]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135CD21F8703 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 151.sub-174-254-174.myvzw.com ([174.254.174.151]:4000 helo=biz104.inmotionhosting.com) by biz104.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sr7ya-0003Fg-Cb for 84attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:38:10 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Eric Burger" To: "84attendees@ietf.org"<84attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:38:27 -0400 X-Mailer: Motorola android mail 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Motorola-A-Mail-ywEeoZ-GoWGHVVxx" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - biz104.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: [84attendees] GSM or CDMA X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:37:26 -0000 --Motorola-A-Mail-ywEeoZ-GoWGHVVxx Content-Type: text/plain; Format="Flowed"; DelSp="Yes"; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are we better off buying a prepaid SIM or roaming on CDMA in Vancouver? Sent from my mobile device. Thanks be to lemonade! http://www.standardstrack.com/IETF/lemonade/ --Motorola-A-Mail-ywEeoZ-GoWGHVVxx Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PGh0bWw+PGhlYWQ+PHN0eWxlIHR5cGU9InRleHQvY3NzIj5ib2R5IHt3b3JkLXdyYXA6IGJyZWFr LXdvcmQ7IGJhY2tncm91bmQtY29sb3I6I2ZmZmZmZjt9PC9zdHlsZT48L2hlYWQ+PGJvZHk+PGRp diBzdHlsZT0iZm9udC1mYW1pbHk6IHNhbnMtc2VyaWY7IGZvbnQtc2l6ZTogMTZweCI+QXJlIHdl IGJldHRlciBvZmYgYnV5aW5nIGEgcHJlcGFpZCBTSU0gb3Igcm9hbWluZyBvbiBDRE1BIGluIFZh bmNvdXZlcj88YnI+PGJyPlNlbnQgZnJvbSBteSBtb2JpbGUgZGV2aWNlLiBUaGFua3MgYmUgdG8g bGVtb25hZGUhIDxhIGhyZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cuc3RhbmRhcmRzdHJhY2suY29tL0lFVEYvbGVt b25hZGUvIj5odHRwOi8vd3d3LnN0YW5kYXJkc3RyYWNrLmNvbS9JRVRGL2xlbW9uYWRlLzwvYT48 L2Rpdj48L2JvZHk+PC9odG1sPg0K --Motorola-A-Mail-ywEeoZ-GoWGHVVxx-- From eburger@standardstrack.com Tue Jul 17 07:16:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E9F21F86F9 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:16:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -78.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-78.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_60=1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, URIBL_SBL=20, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cogIQDU3Zsqb for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biz104.inmotionhosting.com (biz104.inmotionhosting.com [173.247.254.120]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C0421F86F2 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [38.104.6.70] (port=35515 helo=biz104.inmotionhosting.com) by biz104.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sr8ah-000220-Nl for 84attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:17:31 -0700 Message-ID: <11353034-cf06-494e-94e7-354e02a9c856@blur> From: "Eric Burger" To: "84attendees@ietf.org"<84attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:17:50 -0400 X-Mailer: Motorola android mail 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Motorola-A-Mail-TLMX21nBlX44MD0A" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - biz104.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: [84attendees] Lemonade went sour X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:16:48 -0000 --Motorola-A-Mail-TLMX21nBlX44MD0A Content-Type: text/plain; Format="Flowed"; DelSp="Yes"; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A minor MIS-capitalization in the URL. 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They both work. Depends whether you'd rather use your US phone number or a local one. If your CDMA phone is with Verizon, see if you can temporarily switch to the Nationwide+Canada plan, rather than paying 69c/min. If you want a SIM, the providers are Fido and Rogers, same company but different brands and different rates. I have Fido where the basic plan is 30c/min. Rogers has some plans that make no sense -- the basic plan is 40c/min, the "all day" plan is 25c for the first 5 min/day, 15c thereafter, so why would anyone want the basic plan? Virgin Mobile also offers prepaid, basic rate seems to be 35c/min but they also have data plans. R's, John From mcr@sandelman.ca Tue Jul 17 08:20:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0DF21F86B8 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:20:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.622 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.622 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.157, BAYES_05=-1.11, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4a7VsICOEVVc for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.sandelman.ca (relay.cooperix.net [67.23.6.41]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE6121F86B7 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (herring.sandelman.ca [209.87.252.231]) by relay.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C10968666; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id E53A89811D; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from herring.sandelman.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B43980DA; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:20:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: "Eric Burger" In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: MH-E 8.3; nmh 1.3-dev; XEmacs 21.4 (patch 22) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:20:54 -0400 Message-ID: <7410.1342538454@herring.sandelman.ca> Sender: mcr@sandelman.ca Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] GSM or CDMA X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:20:12 -0000 I can't speak to CDMA. I think it's only Bell/Telus that would offer it. If you are coming from T-Mobile land, and you don't have an agreement to roam to Wind.ca, I'd get a pre-paid SIM from wind. -- ] He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life! | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[ Kyoto Plus: watch the video then sign the petition. From tbray@textuality.com Tue Jul 17 08:44:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1889B21F85C2 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:44:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.532 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.532 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-12.491, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, URIBL_SBL=20] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Bb4HUEIeJa4U for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D7C21F85C0 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so897266obb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:45:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=tJqaX6t/3+S0faaF2pmrFtpkA3bR3ziYAQcPvIO5wFA=; b=cwi4Y+3KI1n4zgBK0WCAPCz2z/+1f9dHH2NWi54PtDbyql9Ed3/IoCt5DA8pEtSqZ3 fKfh+O6jR0Z/tWcqRCfWaQbJmM4TCaoHduS0ypHDsGaST15zFbRelqX9SgX1HHDm4s4K j+PruRCMNGKzRBaLqySTAeqpa0iJcae8mAqVzmJEEBN5wsvXQ9lBd8Nc3C3P2lc4mdFs tEOT2nTWq6eYS2niNbMx86owpfzPYSstgwra6kE62ZdCFrUEXG3MfTlgT6Jg0PRkgGJn zZA2Y+md5WhFXCO2xqv4tbhtM7feHCIHGgILwrFxmw7pMOm/YIAX6s6iHk/z7Cv3izuC m3hQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.98.108 with SMTP id eh12mr4145904obb.6.1342539927812; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.75.38 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:45:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [24.84.235.32] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:45:27 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Bray To: Eric Burger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmDnpG719AGzzvOTfVy+hLb5F+UQGYPbaxKDrOK8SKLWrWNIkHXdw3/6HSjKy53mVuUACL0 Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] GSM or CDMA X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:44:41 -0000 My instinct would be prepaid SIM, just because I=92ve never seen a data-roaming plan that wasn=92t onerous. Of course, you have to deal with the fact that there are two incompatible networks: Rogers only does 3G on "AT&T" frequencies, Telus/Bell on =93T-Mobil=94 frequencies (worried that maybe I have that backward). A modern pentaband phone makes that problem go away. As someone else said, I think the best prepaid deals are probably with Wind. -T On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Eric Burger w= rote: > Are we better off buying a prepaid SIM or roaming on CDMA in Vancouver? > > Sent from my mobile device. Thanks be to lemonade! > http://www.standardstrack.com/IETF/lemonade/ > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > From fluffy@cisco.com Tue Jul 17 11:32:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9706921F860E for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:32:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-10.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, URIBL_SBL=20, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S4VRq2x+JRhJ for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com [173.37.86.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC1121F84A7 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:32:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=fluffy@cisco.com; l=490; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1342549981; x=1343759581; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=Qlbwk2nPP/5PRnvyM3F+D0qm7K/9zg7r+chJ9zfs9os=; b=kIummyGStdhCeurMFEwBz1qwnRhVNjKWOkZn97UiF8GqnWOhKaxwsHXu TfrrMFJylAoFN758QvEnEWbm786HDRKopFvjc6NGLSPBfwc9UMOcxE5KL 57n4bxN/nhaMq3wVvkaVmBxa1ZfEoCQuwj6FwRyLMImqVw6+Dd9yvfEWb I=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EAN2uBVCtJV2Z/2dsb2JhbABFuSKBB4IgAQEBAwEBAQEPASc0CwULAgEIDigQJwslAgQOBSKHZQUBC50JoDmLQIVvYAOVPYESjRCBZoJf X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,604,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="102736041" Received: from rcdn-core-2.cisco.com ([173.37.93.153]) by rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 Jul 2012 18:33:00 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x14.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x14.cisco.com [173.36.12.88]) by rcdn-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6HIX0an020692 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:33:00 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com ([169.254.5.178]) by xhc-aln-x14.cisco.com ([173.36.12.88]) with mapi id 14.02.0283.003; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:33:00 -0500 From: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" To: Eric Burger Thread-Topic: [84attendees] GSM or CDMA Thread-Index: AQHNZCFvn87Jzg3U1U67lu9cbcu1HpcuIM2A Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:32:59 +0000 Message-ID: <0F99E2D8-0C48-4015-9CFB-CA82ECC63768@cisco.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [171.68.20.146] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19046.004 x-tm-as-result: No--34.381500-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <9EE42CCC370D274AB06594B6F6CEC74A@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] GSM or CDMA X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:32:13 -0000 Prepaid GSM from fido.ca works well in vancouver. There are fido stores nea= r the hotel.=20 On Jul 17, 2012, at 6:38 , Eric Burger wrote: > Are we better off buying a prepaid SIM or roaming on CDMA in Vancouver? >=20 > Sent from my mobile device. Thanks be to lemonade!http://www.standardstra= ck.com/IETF/lemonade/ > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From eburger@standardstrack.com Wed Jul 18 16:26:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451A011E80E0 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:26:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.566 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.566 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1xj9RyQrTNBT for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biz104.inmotionhosting.com (biz104.inmotionhosting.com [173.247.254.120]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F5E11E81AF for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [209.117.47.251] (port=61304 helo=[192.168.208.95]) by biz104.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SrdeY-0004oc-BE for 84attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:27:34 -0700 From: Eric Burger Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-202--725366387; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 19:27:33 -0400 Message-Id: <09642EE8-D0E6-478D-932D-B6121CF54BD5@standardstrack.com> To: 84attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - biz104.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: [84attendees] Soccer BOF: Call For Venue X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:26:46 -0000 --Apple-Mail-202--725366387 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We've narrowed down the dates to Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, or Thursday = evening. If you have not entered your preference, or if you wish to = reconsider, please fill in the Doodle poll at: http://www.doodle.com/pdygd7d5ib5n4yuq I am leaning towards David Lam Park (I've seem people playing there in = the past) or Trillium Park (which has lights). 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Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E249421F85B8 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 21:27:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.175 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.175 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.199, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rhEZYrYSUTXk for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 21:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE4221F84F9 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 21:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so5011221obb.31 for 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It gets crowded because hundreds of thousands of people come down to it, but you don=92t have to be that close to be impressed. -T --f46d04462fe0e97e2304c53b5294 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check out http://hondaceleb= rationoflight.com/

It=92s not the world=92s biggest by any means= , but it=92s pretty big and pretty impressive, and easy walking distance fr= om the meeting venue. =A0It gets crowded because hundreds of thousands of p= eople come down to it, but you don=92t have to be that close to be impresse= d.

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--f46d04462fe0e97e2304c53b5294-- From cabo@tzi.org Fri Jul 20 02:03:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDB221F855B for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 02:03:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.478 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.478 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.229, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jsREwuB6EF04 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 02:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3016C21F855A for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 02:02:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6K93jGT023249; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:03:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (reingewinn.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.218.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B386FD9F; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:03:45 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:03:45 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <76F175E2-E135-46DF-A72E-675C543B2B92@tzi.org> References: To: Tim Bray X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Fireworks alert X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 09:03:00 -0000 This must be the first fireworks event I've been to where you are = encouraged to bring sunscreen with you :-) http://hondacelebrationoflight.com/frequently-asked-questions/faq Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten From william.atwood@concordia.ca Fri Jul 20 03:39:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2A421F859B for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 03:39:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.764 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.764 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.835, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A58JJuy2CtWJ for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 03:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dillinger.concordia.ca (dillinger.Concordia.CA [132.205.122.20]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCF421F8575 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 03:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.concordia.ca (ums-loyhts1.Concordia.CA [132.205.123.62]) by dillinger.concordia.ca (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6KAdsmB012923; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 06:39:55 -0400 Received: from UMS-SGWMBS1.concordia.ca ([fe80::a570:57d:a1a6:f054]) by ums-loyhts1.concordia.ca ([fe80::a0a2:5e4b:6828:d6c9%15]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 06:39:54 -0400 From: John William Atwood To: Carsten Bormann , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [84attendees] Fireworks alert Thread-Index: AQHNZjAii9W6bu8r60mJcPR7R38m0pcyI8+A///XHf0= Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:39:53 +0000 Message-ID: <2211CC426882294BA4B228588413DAF95893D7@ums-sgwmbs1.concordia.ca> References: , <76F175E2-E135-46DF-A72E-675C543B2B92@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <76F175E2-E135-46DF-A72E-675C543B2B92@tzi.org> Accept-Language: en-CA, en-US Content-Language: en-CA X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [132.205.121.188] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.72 on 132.205.122.20 Subject: Re: [84attendees] Fireworks alert X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:39:03 -0000 Let's be nice and assume that the sunscreen is for the concerts, not the fi= reworks!!! =0A= =0A= Bill=0A= =0A= =0A= Dr. J.W. Atwood, Eng. tel: +1 (514) 848-2424 x3046=0A= Distinguished Professor Emeritus fax: +1 (514) 848-2830=0A= Department of Computer Science=0A= and Software Engineering=0A= Concordia University EV 3.185 email:william.atwood@concordia.ca=0A= 1455 de Maisonneuve Blvd. West http://users.encs.concordia.ca/~bill=0A= Montreal, Quebec Canada H3G 1M8=0A= =0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf= of Carsten Bormann [cabo@tzi.org]=0A= Sent: July 20, 2012 5:03 AM=0A= To: Tim Bray=0A= Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org=0A= Subject: Re: [84attendees] Fireworks alert=0A= =0A= This must be the first fireworks event I've been to where you are encourage= d to bring sunscreen with you :-)=0A= =0A= http://hondacelebrationoflight.com/frequently-asked-questions/faq=0A= =0A= Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten=0A= =0A= _______________________________________________=0A= 84attendees mailing list=0A= 84attendees@ietf.org=0A= https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees=0A= From johnl@taugh.com Sat Jul 21 22:07:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182BB21F84F8 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 22:07:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.584 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.584 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.016, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PmS74NiCmyPz for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 22:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2DC21F84F6 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 22:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 92920 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2012 05:08:44 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=16af6.500b8adc.k1207; bh=YsDClhyTG2tQCTS+R6YupRFsW5tFLP8fCSKsJCKVFe0=; b=Iz6xLp81+hwER9IHCNVUXfW5IeKMIKE5dQ0Wm2bD+Kg62VW1JDDay3TWB1B0nTF2kKQIY4QQxEOLICPQaqlnzVrvOv4cSZm+hBiGpKFgJn7KE/K6CsJ1akKDKNQVs/Vi0mIn5ZRfkzrasCPXBVm3UtPJCc2+I7Uh/lDVu5stZak= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=16af6.500b8adc.k1207; bh=YsDClhyTG2tQCTS+R6YupRFsW5tFLP8fCSKsJCKVFe0=; b=te0CW+klXy7bOfnZ6w7SAatwq8BOiGR4oppZ8PRofsHC5eKv57jVD7I59MPQCy7KBEtsHKECNMbq91pjacL3H7uP37K5jJh/RgEopvjz0VAgrKQwicSjF5tAeqdcLS63V2tZANLbBg6j4/AvFJfKm1qHR5ZeAAxggonsIzWgG7w= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 22 Jul 2012 05:08:22 -0000 Date: 22 Jul 2012 01:08:44 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: 84attendees@ietf.org User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [84attendees] Badge for bits-n-bytes ? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 05:07:45 -0000 For the bits-n-bytes event on Thursday, will people need a badge to get in? A friend is coming into town Thursday afternoon, and I'm wondering if we can both get free beer. R's, John PS: We're both about equally likely to buy whatever the sponsors are likely to be selling. 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X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:24:26 -0000 Is there an android app this time? Thanks ... Scott From morgan.sackett@gmail.com Mon Jul 23 11:26:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A846A21F85D3 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:26:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JRKxPiuy+-Fz for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gh0-f172.google.com (mail-gh0-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DD721F85CD for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ghbg16 with SMTP id g16so6341570ghb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:26:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=C2mrjsp2Fl4s7Nvio4AvWJyMnW5C2I2vBuRXXkJVb5U=; b=slmOi5pcx4aPUrnRTNVi5DmjHr4LfhCj53HxkdaiQ8121ODdkQgMAptFigJpnDJWTa vtxCCpb2eYmyCBUCECZx8teq55vZwpPr2k/Qtcj0VHezJScxFHWONV+1c+L4wGW2Pk1h d4xEQ4bVCJi/HamDj9EjmLQLzA/5YaFCBwqJn8ZAmDBvqpoQKltYMif6J3zFrrqG5VVU MBfR/cU2gZFgCYoLgXv7aDCm35yhbQgcXmZOXQdZ2aJsZsXytet+5XsY4Pkgqs4+1jn/ vD+Z3lhcO4mX+N4Y6+UlDtIE00ZzirVjEa61npIVUmO/vPMNNobtFLqO07O6GRKvfb8r 74eQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.94.133 with SMTP id dc5mr15232832igb.16.1343067979307; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.23.84 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.23.84 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:26:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:26:19 -0700 Message-ID: From: Morgan Sackett To: Scott Brim Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f234ec1d0d9d304c5836192 Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] android app? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:26:20 -0000 --e89a8f234ec1d0d9d304c5836192 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, I found it in the Google Play Store. On Jul 23, 2012 11:24 AM, "Scott Brim" wrote: > Is there an android app this time? > > Thanks ... Scott > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > --e89a8f234ec1d0d9d304c5836192 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, I found it in the Google Play Store.=A0=A0=A0

On Jul 23, 2012 11:24 AM, "Scott Brim"= <scott.brim@gmail.com> w= rote:
Is there an android app this time?

Thanks ... Scott
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--e89a8f234ec1d0d9d304c5836192-- From warren@kumari.net Mon Jul 23 11:28:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B22011E80DF for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:28:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.361 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.361 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.238, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yEzgdal-GxS8 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vimes.kumari.net (vimes.kumari.net [198.186.192.250]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57EA911E80BF for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [5.5.8.22] (vpn.snozzages.com [204.194.22.7]) by vimes.kumari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 908631B413EF; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Warren Kumari In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:28:41 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6D0CC210-EDEC-42F2-9A81-E9B052922714@kumari.net> References: To: Morgan Sackett X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: Scott Brim , 84attendees@ietf.org, Warren Kumari Subject: Re: [84attendees] android app? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:28:44 -0000 On Jul 23, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Morgan Sackett wrote: > Yes, I found it in the Google Play Store. =20 >=20 And this should get you to it: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=3Dorg.dalmasso.ietfsched :-P W > On Jul 23, 2012 11:24 AM, "Scott Brim" wrote: > Is there an android app this time? >=20 > Thanks ... Scott > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees --=20 There are only 10 types of people in this world -- those who understand = binary arithmetic and those who don't. From marc@petit-huguenin.org Mon Jul 23 11:30:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581FE11E80BF for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:30:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qgYC3spCy3Jg for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implementers.org (implementers.org [IPv6:2604:3400:dc1:41:216:3eff:fe5b:8240]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A4411E80BD for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:616:213:d4ff:fe04:3e08] (shalmaneser.org [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:616:213:d4ff:fe04:3e08]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Marc Petit-Huguenin", Issuer "implementers.org" (verified OK)) by implementers.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96C762049D; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:30:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <500D9832.8000805@petit-huguenin.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:30:10 -0700 From: Marc Petit-Huguenin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120624 Icedove/10.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Morgan Sackett References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org, Scott Brim Subject: Re: [84attendees] android app? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:30:15 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Note that there is a bug in the Android app when following a link. The app author is working on it. On 07/23/2012 11:26 AM, Morgan Sackett wrote: > Yes, I found it in the Google Play Store. > > On Jul 23, 2012 11:24 AM, "Scott Brim" > wrote: > > Is there an android app this time? > - -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Email: marc@petit-huguenin.org Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/petithug -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJQDZglAAoJECnERZXWan7ESyMP/29NRGERDNplZA46e9KzTAJI z5OeEcW7dI6IEr9xLATU3xNXYcbU6PKDTRESp4QebdGnr/NX+ChITRWMEQsbhc3s eatR13X0xlX3cap9oclLMHp3R0np9RdogbRiR3X/f2LbVOhGP1d1lr7RhKPv7L2V l2deB/Gx3QGKfWoo9vlQF9onSMN1UG//s0rgHbs1KMG59tsPKHVlTLeJ+PUZb4e/ JE5k5Lp5t3CQYtyChXKw6wRPcIsEdMf4I+iTaEo9LoZvraM7NsCkCg/qj8NyHCYS H2tK3dPGDCDa6AQnT5TJ1tl2o17nllvkkvoJqXxXP3qWVVdbZVNd4VHNTRgQwIOb NH2bWcuK71tTkfRvoZmQU5ZJNP5QEhQXWf9nDYvFBNBidBbylJIzpQjmyHnjSpPY t7kR5/06V6SrOeE+99sOqYEpnekuYRTVS6Qny5+l+1+EnkzK4m8swVaXJhfP4382 98dqcQ1Yfpu+LZ12QdvFrlXwG4OiXWcG4D288MM71Rxvi8DD100MHA1n4vdJX7kq 3zxFTpvyUJw08Gdx5aD2lmircwCVKvXm4o85By2w125gvzAmmOy6qqKAZ0WLLDKX NfB6+sPDF0k/ynk7gjz6H0eRBiXiXPbT3EUHCgByiPdacilWUBTHbTVRKz44tMiy splxPdkf3chcLCF6zb/x =jPjN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From scott.brim@gmail.com Mon Jul 23 13:15:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7AB11E80A1 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:15:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MMS1PVGMRc4L for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6280111E807F for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pbcwy7 with SMTP id wy7so11740490pbc.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:15:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=0a3M1EtZ/GkH8ZZ9E2+uQFaNTayVB34mOFm4CXCetdc=; b=w5OEFxS18zmON49hT9moAzrGQMwufYmz90GYNyNTfBhqU6cTlUiSZQNvPwddl8YHGf B7AFnbJyar0U1P3WC1J2PAxFk6dtarsLqWvmJSbSCz3EWMsnZVbjIrFJ6B6ZYDibEUNy sxdvFlocwtyagWXDdVKHd118N/n+PE1JQyInGH2n6S7U18N8t2qrW0MH5xctLCFVJtP6 12WYDJL7uWJarH6sD7y0tXtIv4ik0baJmm5NwSN5BR70vB7Ukf5Kce/x92GnaCJZmJtl pDg+/QE9qJfza/MLlDG6hsRmmj+1/44WLuptpBn/1ls4hNWhescQG0zjpj5qTpcGkNkr O/fg== Received: by 10.68.238.68 with SMTP id vi4mr38083567pbc.123.1343074552960; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:15:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.220.132 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:15:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <500D9832.8000805@petit-huguenin.org> References: <500D9832.8000805@petit-huguenin.org> From: Scott Brim Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:15:32 -0400 Message-ID: To: Marc Petit-Huguenin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Morgan Sackett , 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] android app? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:15:54 -0000 On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote: > Note that there is a bug in the Android app when following a link. The app > author is working on it. Thanks. I never thought of looking in the play store, I was looking for a sideload. From wjhns1@hardakers.net Mon Jul 23 13:56:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F2A21F846A for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:56:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dme9U+AsnGCb for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.hardakers.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:187::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C44321F842D for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (wjhw.hardakers.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:187:62d8:19ff:fed4:c8b6]) by mail.hardakers.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EE8F921B for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:56:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Wes Hardaker To: 84attendees@ietf.org Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:56:29 -0700 Message-ID: <0l4noy19j6.fsf@wjh.hardakers.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130004 (Ma Gnus v0.4) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [84attendees] garmin image/map for bc X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:56:33 -0000 I've created a garmin image map from opensource data if anyone wants it. It covers the entire BC state: http://www.hardakers.net/temp/bc.html It's not a direct link to the file this time, as I think a lot of mailers download the huge file to check it for viruses or something so this is an experiment to see who downloads the .html and to compare it against everyone who clicks on the [only] link to get the real file. -- Wes Hardaker SPARTA, Inc. From bob.hinden@gmail.com Mon Jul 23 14:55:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8476211E809C for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:55:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.481 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.481 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.118, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BA4PyzJoEILV for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE3211E808E for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pbcwy7 with SMTP id wy7so11857375pbc.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:55:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=MDvA1+leBsKS4pcC94mYqAVZpNeXYzf2WR5BDCCZsBM=; b=ZctbK+CQNljBNCWHy9tD8w46zIY/h66f2vxFFUNLZG+ygxGt0fDp7Qo/3oRHQ0qY2I cDQCwJXJMzblg2eO1z/CY+IyXT1jv9xyGlNl9vEvODgeTJ0d0bvtLruVOLpZvsCxH41u oC1v+8JMtxzBTxbBO0ffC5K8lQ+HAQR2C1E5tK1A8a5yHaUJ34HxwzULmLL/LHUJgG2W zWOHtm+Ma+khcRDM4g+tT4J6Vr40TNCefnZWRqwV0uEsUNikL0xreIIcSCvNjjaiwBh2 qbxH6ljudSWC2W5Os57OXUVzHO//LMGDd750Zrr8tzdUZKoNkLjqAkT9+gMNNg4+rfe1 5K+g== Received: by 10.68.200.138 with SMTP id js10mr39871762pbc.23.1343080527436; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.224.217] ([209.97.127.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id qx9sm10720318pbc.8.2012.07.23.14.55.25 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:55:23 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <28C5D19A-30F1-45B4-8848-E35541562859@gmail.com> References: To: John R Levine X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org, Bob Hinden Subject: Re: [84attendees] Badge for bits-n-bytes ? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:55:28 -0000 John, On Jul 21, 2012, at 10:08 PM, John R Levine wrote: > For the bits-n-bytes event on Thursday, will people need a badge to = get in? A friend is coming into town Thursday afternoon, and I'm = wondering if we can both get free beer. IETF badges are required, as the event is not open to the general public = (for obvious reasons). However, badges will be checked in the normal = IETF manner. You could buy your friend a companion badge. Bob From jhildebr@cisco.com Mon Jul 23 15:19:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388D411E80DC for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:19:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.566 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.566 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.034, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WkInouYY0PI5 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.86.73]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B51D11E80BE for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:19:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=jhildebr@cisco.com; l=546; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1343081960; x=1344291560; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=NM78Y0hsEyKi9Si3b7dqVV6CqF/6AR+t7SHgMRWq31s=; b=QDLnDi0eT7CD+ai46CNuKJkJR1tw/gUwr6A0HcbGLLevlmUvymqjeSGG zQcEh1qhEXb7kSSJSdAJZzwT516PdvLLYKE1Zyn7Szq1qntzOuHuL8O3+ TCnP4X+Ot6N8Ypp/+Ydahz5kkZW96PzjRQJqp9Z7rWEzZpMFxFBtBxdM8 s=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag4FAAPNDVCtJXHA/2dsb2JhbABFhSu0NYEHgicSASc/EgEINjERJQIEAQ0FIodcAwycLpY1DYlOimaHOgOTdYFUiwqDHYFmgl8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,640,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="104536497" Received: from rcdn-core2-5.cisco.com ([173.37.113.192]) by rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 23 Jul 2012 22:19:20 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x10.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x10.cisco.com [173.36.12.84]) by rcdn-core2-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6NMJJYl028620 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:19:19 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x10.cisco.com ([169.254.15.17]) by xhc-aln-x10.cisco.com ([173.36.12.84]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:19:19 -0500 From: "Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" To: Bob Hinden , John R Levine Thread-Topic: [84attendees] Badge for bits-n-bytes ? Thread-Index: AQHNaR2s9yj7wcX1ekqJ1MvSoivvpJc3X2aA Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:19:18 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <28C5D19A-30F1-45B4-8848-E35541562859@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 x-originating-ip: [64.101.72.220] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19060.001 x-tm-as-result: No--28.878800-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <061D8904B7149945906163EEAAC79BFB@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Badge for bits-n-bytes ? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:19:21 -0000 On 7/23/12 3:55 PM, "Bob Hinden" wrote: >>For the bits-n-bytes event on Thursday, will people need a badge to get >>in? A friend is coming into town Thursday afternoon, and I'm wondering >>if we can both get free beer. > >IETF badges are required, as the event is not open to the general public >(for obvious reasons). Could you elaborate on what those obvious reasons are? If I was to decide to spend the $ for a table, I'd like as many interested people as possible to show up. --=20 Joe Hildebrand From warren@kumari.net Mon Jul 23 15:25:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3932021F847F for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:25:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y5KnlYVJTtB8 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vimes.kumari.net (vimes.kumari.net [198.186.192.250]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B418C21F847E for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (unknown [206.191.100.2]) by vimes.kumari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C29551B40A0A; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:25:40 -0400 (EDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <4EE5C094-5BDF-4C89-886E-02B531647FCC@kumari.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Warren Kumari Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:25:42 -0700 To: "Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" Cc: John R Levine , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Bob Hinden Subject: Re: [84attendees] Badge for bits-n-bytes ? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:25:42 -0000 I'd assume the "There is free food / beer, but we canna / don't want to feed= the entire city..." would be a starting point... W Warren Kumari ------ Please excuse typing, etc -- This was sent from a device with a tiny keyboar= d. On Jul 23, 2012, at 3:19 PM, "Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" wrote: > On 7/23/12 3:55 PM, "Bob Hinden" wrote: >=20 >=20 >>> For the bits-n-bytes event on Thursday, will people need a badge to get >>> in? A friend is coming into town Thursday afternoon, and I'm wondering >>> if we can both get free beer. >>=20 >> IETF badges are required, as the event is not open to the general public >> (for obvious reasons). >=20 > Could you elaborate on what those obvious reasons are? If I was to decide= > to spend the $ for a table, I'd like as many interested people as possible= > to show up. >=20 > --=20 > Joe Hildebrand >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees >=20 From bob.hinden@gmail.com Mon Jul 23 15:29:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B886711E80E5 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:29:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.488 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.488 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.111, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uVWq7iV8PuWk for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4157711E80E4 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pbcwy7 with SMTP id wy7so11898539pbc.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:29:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=FKT5khlpFbqp+Sg4sK+bPl5qVG/4r7XIwBg1O6N+3kw=; b=zBP4GxgVmD2Lq0VBh8dK0SW75julK/D7vNODglSjdg4itImv4IBqSyeg80bb+E+S/8 AUUkdKZ1AaJbPmKtS1qYind2+FfjIKegIP10WqdwMBd/LSmSBYBtckuw9cZNH44R8DVC cQ9lmDML7msvIeFo+o9tIGG3VFzK4dByIu+VpyGy9rwcACxKzpvarO8sBvsPRy9Disrr gGICD6M5WYvBuhRDforFWLuHuaVhFC/Hg7FjrnMG7rj4XDOeB8TWuHbPg3wZYWd6fvAW Pv1Lvz8LZt9aM/HNIkvBfxIC4DLDx6pZMeRCg+8RUz9sqKNfCazbx0zUqqq4U9tb4Drc QI+A== Received: by 10.68.194.6 with SMTP id hs6mr39919910pbc.133.1343082556041; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.224.217] ([209.97.127.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id oi5sm10761939pbb.39.2012.07.23.15.29.13 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:29:11 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: John R Levine , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Bob Hinden Subject: Re: [84attendees] Badge for bits-n-bytes ? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:29:16 -0000 Joe, On Jul 23, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr) wrote: > On 7/23/12 3:55 PM, "Bob Hinden" wrote: >=20 >=20 >>> For the bits-n-bytes event on Thursday, will people need a badge to = get >>> in? A friend is coming into town Thursday afternoon, and I'm = wondering >>> if we can both get free beer. >>=20 >> IETF badges are required, as the event is not open to the general = public >> (for obvious reasons). >=20 > Could you elaborate on what those obvious reasons are? If I was to = decide > to spend the $ for a table, I'd like as many interested people as = possible > to show up. >=20 The biggest being organizations paying for tables are doing it to talk = to IETF attendees, not everyone in the hotel, or everyone in Vancouver, = and because we would run out of beer. Bob From ole@cisco.com Mon Jul 23 15:29:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E687A11E80E4 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:29:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.542 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.542 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.057, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P-C4niZRVac4 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-3.cisco.com (mtv-iport-3.cisco.com [173.36.130.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5416411E80BE for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:29:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=1025; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1343082594; x=1344292194; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=TDLVHiOfqQCi6V1o+UmIJbZ84dAA+I1W3uNsKm5O/kc=; b=hwR2bgHIy8eNFo5GalFdzrZ4IBZ+aMv3s/G+JK7w01Gl3aK38SGlV1YA S56omBtEM+ow9YOgZT53EccV8RmQ77CdnTSRChooPrmLLr/vjANvWyTeK 1kAEs17z6zGDpRbT+YdM3ZkgfYgkOcj5Si30GWqNP8ByBonr1jmkmapRD Y=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,640,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="50242435" Received: from mtv-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.58.9]) by mtv-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 23 Jul 2012 22:29:54 +0000 Received: from [10.27.1.132] (sjc-ole-8913.cisco.com [10.27.1.132]) by mtv-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6NMTrZ1001879; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:29:53 GMT Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:29:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Warren Kumari In-Reply-To: <4EE5C094-5BDF-4C89-886E-02B531647FCC@kumari.net> Message-ID: References: <4EE5C094-5BDF-4C89-886E-02B531647FCC@kumari.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Bob Hinden , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, John R Levine , "Joe Hildebrand \(jhildebr\)" Subject: Re: [84attendees] Badge for bits-n-bytes ? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:29:55 -0000 Yes, and the "promised target audience" has the IETF profile. Not that John's friend wouldn't necessarily fit that profile, but you get the idea. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Warren Kumari wrote: > I'd assume the "There is free food / beer, but we canna / don't want > to feed the entire city..." would be a starting point... > > W > > Warren Kumari > ------ > On Jul 23, 2012, at 3:19 PM, "Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" wrote: > >> > >> IETF badges are required, as the event is not open to the general public > >> (for obvious reasons). > > > > Could you elaborate on what those obvious reasons are? If I was to decide > > to spend the $ for a table, I'd like as many interested people as possible > > to show up. > > > > -- > > Joe Hildebrand > > > > From joelja@gmail.com Mon Jul 23 15:46:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE3111E80E8 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:46:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zaqIpW8Gxann for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gg0-f172.google.com (mail-gg0-f172.google.com [209.85.161.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A901011E80E7 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ggnc4 with SMTP id c4so6616481ggn.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:46:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=53NVVR/C4VR3of3mW5UaVH3XH9DVBk+Z/+w6crCEvUc=; b=ZJou3k08b7WBhtKvOZZEFqDcH9jwmnr4CrlE5z5BIm2/hzGO8lb+pl7i1mLDfa6JK9 O0mLYBlAHpVzG+9mnlf48jdj3ezJNudJ6XpEKubFa+hzpZSCkG75lcjTXXNo9LaJe4O2 x/8E8C3LcB7Za02WQuM/jQ9lnEeugLfIdI+MIOXGUMOL4vxe7/faGgrE1NYgu6Yq+lsS TAkCxX8V67DftYN4ZmJ7lltaMb53D18slnPoHYGWcuh2J91+VRc2aaWUVqIo7vrAIwBy GAoLKTwkvPh/IDFInaiJEPhsNc5012plwc2XU6IzBqjHzyoAQ3u5UijKJuwxLpgVxei5 nk2Q== Received: by 10.43.52.198 with SMTP id vn6mr9995189icb.42.1343083581061; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from joels-MacBook-Air.local ([199.48.105.4]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s4sm501596igb.1.2012.07.23.15.46.19 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:46:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <500DD43A.9080404@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:46:18 -0700 From: joel jaeggli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120711 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: John R Levine , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Bob Hinden Subject: Re: [84attendees] Badge for bits-n-bytes ? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:46:22 -0000 On 7/23/12 3:19 PM, Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr) wrote: > On 7/23/12 3:55 PM, "Bob Hinden" wrote: > > >>> For the bits-n-bytes event on Thursday, will people need a badge to get >>> in? A friend is coming into town Thursday afternoon, and I'm wondering >>> if we can both get free beer. >> >> IETF badges are required, as the event is not open to the general public >> (for obvious reasons). > > Could you elaborate on what those obvious reasons are? If I was to decide > to spend the $ for a table, I'd like as many interested people as possible > to show up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_rider_problem From jon.hudson@gmail.com Mon Jul 23 15:59:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246C511E80F0 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:59:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TOW9q+9cjeYj for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72BB11E80E2 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pbcwy7 with SMTP id wy7so11936721pbc.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:59:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=nntn1zWLTQ63QlYHHR/xViIgPhZcNn8fY43m/xYTHe4=; b=aL4O1J/C87yFYekJFjP0Lxo74bt5p6+sx512nAadOVcJjszmVllNqWN4F5Z1ySBvEK Hw9CNDgO4Pp5oWa1lT/1sX7zirZ2b5P4pmynS0VISqFGAE51YhYTLT72MvbAPBhYrSMU sXJSQ64HwC9oVHBZbYjXgRC53E79oPK12Zpt3cVzBAkwccEzpq8kMEVCwsbNMSx7F/Lw wkoaenG6YvxziXcX4wm/GFcLw+Ogm3kTA5UB0J0nMcswV7a7qVJ9iluoyqu/VWAKpr18 bq7+O8Qy9Vd9WOgMJs6x+T+QpVgz9TNOM5GIfQK+5S94T9RhxysOu7BTEqELa1axTo6s RzAg== Received: by 10.68.223.35 with SMTP id qr3mr40281627pbc.83.1343084368561; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.199.144.54] (mobile-198-228-213-203.mycingular.net. [198.228.213.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ms1sm10802414pbb.63.2012.07.23.15.59.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:59:27 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Jon Hudson Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:59:24 -0700 To: Bob Hinden Cc: Bob Hinden , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, John R Levine , "Joe Hildebrand \(jhildebr\)" Subject: Re: [84attendees] Badge for bits-n-bytes ? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:59:29 -0000 Run out of beer. In Vancouver. On Jul 23, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: > Joe, >=20 > On Jul 23, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr) wrote: >=20 >> On 7/23/12 3:55 PM, "Bob Hinden" wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >>>> For the bits-n-bytes event on Thursday, will people need a badge to get= >>>> in? A friend is coming into town Thursday afternoon, and I'm wondering= >>>> if we can both get free beer. >>>=20 >>> IETF badges are required, as the event is not open to the general public= >>> (for obvious reasons). >>=20 >> Could you elaborate on what those obvious reasons are? If I was to decid= e >> to spend the $ for a table, I'd like as many interested people as possibl= e >> to show up. >>=20 >=20 > The biggest being organizations paying for tables are doing it to talk to I= ETF attendees, not everyone in the hotel, or everyone in Vancouver, and beca= use we would run out of beer. >=20 > Bob >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From william.atwood@concordia.ca Mon Jul 23 16:01:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6875C11E80ED for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:01:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.883 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.883 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.716, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 66lVTLqbYjBM for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oldperseverance.encs.concordia.ca (oldperseverance.encs.concordia.ca [132.205.96.94]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C624211E80E2 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (bill@poise.encs.concordia.ca [132.205.2.209]) by oldperseverance.encs.concordia.ca (envelope-from william.atwood@concordia.ca) (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id q6NN17Ou018824 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:01:08 -0400 Message-ID: <500DD7C7.1070807@concordia.ca> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:01:27 -0400 From: John William Atwood Organization: Concordia University, Montreal User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 84attendees@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on oldperseverance.encs.concordia.ca at 2012/07/23 19:01:08 EDT Subject: Re: [84attendees] Badge for bits-n-bytes ? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:01:11 -0000 Not even imaginable!! On 7/23/2012 6:59 PM, Jon Hudson wrote: > Run out of beer. In Vancouver. > > On Jul 23, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: > >> Joe, >> >> On Jul 23, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr) wrote: >> >>> On 7/23/12 3:55 PM, "Bob Hinden" wrote: >>> >>> >>>>> For the bits-n-bytes event on Thursday, will people need a badge to get >>>>> in? A friend is coming into town Thursday afternoon, and I'm wondering >>>>> if we can both get free beer. >>>> IETF badges are required, as the event is not open to the general public >>>> (for obvious reasons). >>> Could you elaborate on what those obvious reasons are? If I was to decide >>> to spend the $ for a table, I'd like as many interested people as possible >>> to show up. >>> >> The biggest being organizations paying for tables are doing it to talk to IETF attendees, not everyone in the hotel, or everyone in Vancouver, and because we would run out of beer. >> >> Bob >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 84attendees mailing list >> 84attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees -- Dr. J.W. Atwood, Eng. tel: +1 (514) 848-2424 x3046 Distinguished Professor Emeritus fax: +1 (514) 848-2830 Department of Computer Science and Software Engineering Concordia University EV 3.185 email:william.atwood@concordia.ca 1455 de Maisonneuve Blvd. West http://users.encs.concordia.ca/~bill Montreal, Quebec Canada H3G 1M8 From jhildebr@cisco.com Mon Jul 23 16:04:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3165B11E80F3 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:04:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.689, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ALKq7sM23hCd for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4AE11E80E7 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:04:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=jhildebr@cisco.com; l=303; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1343084644; x=1344294244; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=c7nF87lDCBo4ORAotIyxJ/Ftur5P3SYC4YLLh+PUIX4=; b=UzetWBVeU9bWp/BlLSg/DUHOADH0cONKc38fO9gdtSaO6jjc+ktstl3s heZ+mzmscdExc50EYBBEfB+D+c7aHAJf/V9DHfR/odpwLZ8bAxc9FfzXN a0kNrtZobrgNuoapVRbKChqFik/C4v4Ikq0POv1l80neBa9nCICa5rytA w=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag0FANLXDVCtJV2b/2dsb2JhbABFhSu0NYEHgicSASc/EgEINjERJQIEDgUih1wDDJwvljgNiU6KZoc6A5N1gVSLCoMdgWaCXw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,640,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="104593372" Received: from rcdn-core-4.cisco.com ([173.37.93.155]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 23 Jul 2012 23:04:03 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x07.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x07.cisco.com [173.37.183.81]) by rcdn-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6NN43fs011177 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:04:03 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x10.cisco.com ([169.254.15.17]) by xhc-rcd-x07.cisco.com ([173.37.183.81]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:04:03 -0500 From: "Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" To: Bob Hinden Thread-Topic: [84attendees] Badge for bits-n-bytes ? Thread-Index: AQHNaR2s9yj7wcX1ekqJ1MvSoivvpJc3X2aAgABnWYD//6UigA== Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:04:02 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 x-originating-ip: [64.101.72.220] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19060.001 x-tm-as-result: No--25.024300-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <61BA2302605E9F4A89C87B75A860EBD9@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, John R Levine Subject: Re: [84attendees] Badge for bits-n-bytes ? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:04:05 -0000 On 7/23/12 4:29 PM, "Bob Hinden" wrote: >The biggest being organizations paying for tables are doing it to talk to >IETF attendees, not everyone in the hotel, or everyone in Vancouver, and >because we would run out of beer. Thanks, understood. --=20 Joe Hildebrand From wjhns1@hardakers.net Mon Jul 23 18:47:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625F611E80FF for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:47:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E3al6x3userC for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.hardakers.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:187::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC13F11E80F3 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (wjhw.hardakers.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:187:62d8:19ff:fed4:c8b6]) by mail.hardakers.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4234167; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:47:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Wes Hardaker To: Wes Hardaker References: <0l4noy19j6.fsf@wjh.hardakers.net> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:47:18 -0700 In-Reply-To: <0l4noy19j6.fsf@wjh.hardakers.net> (Wes Hardaker's message of "Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:56:29 -0700") Message-ID: <0lliiaylp5.fsf@wjh.hardakers.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130004 (Ma Gnus v0.4) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] garmin image/map for bc X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:47:19 -0000 Wes Hardaker writes: > It covers the entire BC state: Whoops. My bad, as someone pointed out, I should have said "province". [it's one of those days where I'm thinking too fast and my English comes out with 90% syntax errors] -- Wes Hardaker SPARTA, Inc. From ondrej.sury@nic.cz Tue Jul 24 06:00:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FF421F8643 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:00:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.800, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_23=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pYTl4kmOBKDQ for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.nic.cz (mail.nic.cz [IPv6:2001:1488:800:400::400]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA35221F8631 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimac.office.nic.cz (fw.nic.cz [217.31.207.1]) by mail.nic.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CC6AF13F884; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:00:22 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nic.cz; s=default; t=1343134822; bh=tUrwj5RNtTO1nxq68pXepB9M2BXkDNBPnvTzNv92a0Q=; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To; b=tLED+CPgeDjCNxppn6ghAKVIqzxLs8OJe/k5njMciCPRb5wW+cCPJCOfjHAyY+whi dINqyYBaK6OiRyAQgAOnBP/vp7BdCOz7GgmbwNNZFMVliw3FBco+Sx1Mu0bMaFy5cO kon+R/XyizaEhzEx//V0D5AvX0w7FjHPSpiSMGvg= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: =?utf-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_Sur=C3=BD?= In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:00:22 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9B052C16-4279-4ECE-80FB-838BBFD1DF58@nic.cz> References: To: Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Badge for bits-n-bytes ? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:00:25 -0000 On 24. 7. 2012, at 1:04, Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr) = wrote: > On 7/23/12 4:29 PM, "Bob Hinden" wrote: >> The biggest being organizations paying for tables are doing it to = talk to >> IETF attendees, not everyone in the hotel, or everyone in Vancouver, = and >> because we would run out of beer. >=20 > Thanks, understood. Anyway as somebody already pointed out, the companion program[1] would = probably help here. http://www.ietf.org/meeting/84/84-companion-program.html O. -- Ond=C5=99ej Sur=C3=BD -- Chief Science Officer ------------------------------------------- CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. -- Laborato=C5=99e CZ.NIC Americka 23, 120 00 Praha 2, Czech Republic mailto:ondrej.sury@nic.cz http://nic.cz/ tel:+420.222745110 fax:+420.222745112 ------------------------------------------- From ondrej.sury@nic.cz Tue Jul 24 06:02:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2204A21F8642 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:02:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.241 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.241 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.660, BAYES_50=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_23=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3X0S68rDs8bq for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.nic.cz (mail.nic.cz [IPv6:2001:1488:800:400::400]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D3721F8631 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimac.office.nic.cz (fw.nic.cz [217.31.207.1]) by mail.nic.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E3C4B13F884 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:02:45 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nic.cz; s=default; t=1343134965; bh=YfnAtdS+91W+A4lEV/7t0tFJXZvt8ttIkogAhiLnIIU=; h=From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Subject:Message-Id: Date:To:Mime-Version; b=M3GFbMYZyCLWriPCj0EVoynZvELypQMb7Y9RY9C0zsmUhtauMTJRAk2cF1vrCSojg WH2XhCjlHMz2w/7D1Vk1ZjcoKkuW+t54GGZ2aUix0jJ7DFLJUrXhvPv6dn0/80GqUj 2ZfMQMIQ5247mwHFom1cGsQalutijZOq37n+PNU8= From: =?utf-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_Sur=C3=BD?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <77E87082-C1B6-4A50-8F9E-5DD3D929C8DF@nic.cz> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:02:45 +0200 To: 84attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: [84attendees] 2 extra Social Event tickets (Is Refund possible?) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:02:47 -0000 Hi, I have a two extra social event tickets due not foreseeable conditions my co-traveler(s) will not come. Do you know (by prior experience) if it is possible to get a refund? Or just shout and I can exchange them for cash at the place... O. -- Ond=C5=99ej Sur=C3=BD -- Chief Science Officer ------------------------------------------- CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. -- Laborato=C5=99e CZ.NIC Americka 23, 120 00 Praha 2, Czech Republic mailto:ondrej.sury@nic.cz http://nic.cz/ tel:+420.222745110 fax:+420.222745112 ------------------------------------------- From ynir@checkpoint.com Tue Jul 24 06:11:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0EF21F863B for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:11:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.752 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.752 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.467, BAYES_40=-0.185, J_CHICKENPOX_23=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mk1VtMQfB0Lo for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.checkpoint.com (smtp.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.68]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D0221F8623 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com (il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.26]) by smtp.checkpoint.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6ODBjTS006480; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:11:45 +0300 X-CheckPoint: {500E9CEF-2-1B221DC2-4FFFF} Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com ([126.0.0.2]) by il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com ([126.0.0.2]) with mapi; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:11:45 +0300 From: Yoav Nir To: =?utf-8?B?T25kxZllaiBTdXLDvQ==?= Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:11:53 +0300 Thread-Topic: [84attendees] 2 extra Social Event tickets (Is Refund possible?) Thread-Index: Ac1pnd9wPz8bPBwpR6+OjktZE5n1UA== Message-ID: References: <77E87082-C1B6-4A50-8F9E-5DD3D929C8DF@nic.cz> In-Reply-To: <77E87082-C1B6-4A50-8F9E-5DD3D929C8DF@nic.cz> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US x-kse-antivirus-interceptor-info: scan successful x-kse-antivirus-info: Clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] 2 extra Social Event tickets (Is Refund possible?) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:11:48 -0000 SUlSQyBpbiBwcmV2aW91cyBtZWV0aW5ncyB0aGUgcGVvcGxlIHdpdGggZXh0cmEgdGlja2V0cyBl bmRlZCB1cCBvZmZlcmluZyB0byBzZWxsIHRoZW0gYXQgdGhlIHJlZ2lzdHJhdGlvbiBkZXNrLiAg V2hlbiB0aGVyZSdzIGEgc2hvcnRhZ2UsIHRoZXkgZ28gcHJldHR5IGZhc3QuDQoNCk9uIEp1bCAy NCwgMjAxMiwgYXQgNDowMiBQTSwgT25kxZllaiBTdXLDvSB3cm90ZToNCg0KPiBIaSwNCj4gDQo+ IEkgaGF2ZSBhIHR3byBleHRyYSBzb2NpYWwgZXZlbnQgdGlja2V0cyBkdWUgbm90IGZvcmVzZWVh YmxlDQo+IGNvbmRpdGlvbnMgbXkgY28tdHJhdmVsZXIocykgd2lsbCBub3QgY29tZS4gIERvIHlv dSBrbm93IChieQ0KPiBwcmlvciBleHBlcmllbmNlKSBpZiBpdCBpcyBwb3NzaWJsZSB0byBnZXQg YSByZWZ1bmQ/DQo+IA0KPiBPciBqdXN0IHNob3V0IGFuZCBJIGNhbiBleGNoYW5nZSB0aGVtIGZv ciBjYXNoIGF0IHRoZSBwbGFjZS4uLg0KPiANCj4gTy4NCj4gLS0NCj4gT25kxZllaiBTdXLDvSAt LSBDaGllZiBTY2llbmNlIE9mZmljZXINCj4gLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQ0KPiBDWi5OSUMsIHoucy5wLm8uICAgIC0tICAgIExhYm9yYXRvxZllIENa Lk5JQw0KPiBBbWVyaWNrYSAyMywgMTIwIDAwIFByYWhhIDIsIEN6ZWNoIFJlcHVibGljDQo+IG1h aWx0bzpvbmRyZWouc3VyeUBuaWMuY3ogICAgaHR0cDovL25pYy5jei8NCj4gdGVsOis0MjAuMjIy NzQ1MTEwICAgICAgIGZheDorNDIwLjIyMjc0NTExMg0KPiAtLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tDQo+IA0KPiBfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXw0KPiA4NGF0dGVuZGVlcyBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QNCj4gODRhdHRl bmRlZXNAaWV0Zi5vcmcNCj4gaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaWV0Zi5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby84 NGF0dGVuZGVlcw0KPiAE77+9annvv71177+977+977+977+9JD7vv73vv73vv706LWpU77+9cu+/ ve+/vSHvv73vv73vv70aDQoNCg== From ondrej.sury@nic.cz Tue Jul 24 06:19:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C780E21F865C for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:19:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.949 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.949 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.750, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_23=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DLB6uBPB2WPW for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.nic.cz (mail.nic.cz [IPv6:2001:1488:800:400::400]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3518121F8643 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimac.office.nic.cz (fw.nic.cz [217.31.207.1]) by mail.nic.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5D88913F9C5; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:19:39 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nic.cz; s=default; t=1343135979; bh=R7TgU5/gONWUU9sfU+uvWKdLFcyAlPBeqKc66i/FVyU=; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To; b=qoNHWunXEOALYZD84QNcTTFBojF4DgTN63dJL5E/Qh7q32VujWlxWsemjPHbrrYsE 3gatX0sz3oCWlnwgFWRJUgKeQMpdH6JX93Xxtu0GeZDZytbLdlWZZH8XEInizEly3b 6/ox9On4D8FWDGfTpkxVPsi+mOxJHTbAsQoiO8qg= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: =?utf-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_Sur=C3=BD?= In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:19:39 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <77E87082-C1B6-4A50-8F9E-5DD3D929C8DF@nic.cz> To: Yoav Nir X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] 2 extra Social Event tickets (Is Refund possible?) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:19:41 -0000 Well, yes, but in previous meetings, there were no: """ Availability: Open to all!! """ on the social event webpage :) O. On 24. 7. 2012, at 15:11, Yoav Nir wrote: > IIRC in previous meetings the people with extra tickets ended up = offering to sell them at the registration desk. When there's a = shortage, they go pretty fast. >=20 > On Jul 24, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Ond=C5=99ej Sur=C3=BD wrote: >=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> I have a two extra social event tickets due not foreseeable >> conditions my co-traveler(s) will not come. Do you know (by >> prior experience) if it is possible to get a refund? >>=20 >> Or just shout and I can exchange them for cash at the place... >>=20 >> O. >> -- >> Ond=C5=99ej Sur=C3=BD -- Chief Science Officer >> ------------------------------------------- >> CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. -- Laborato=C5=99e CZ.NIC >> Americka 23, 120 00 Praha 2, Czech Republic >> mailto:ondrej.sury@nic.cz http://nic.cz/ >> tel:+420.222745110 fax:+420.222745112 >> ------------------------------------------- >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> 84attendees mailing list >> 84attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees >> =04=EF=BF=BDjy=EF=BF=BDu=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD$>=EF=BF=BD= =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD:-jT=EF=BF=BDr=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD!=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF= =BD=1A >=20 -- Ond=C5=99ej Sur=C3=BD -- Chief Science Officer ------------------------------------------- CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. -- Laborato=C5=99e CZ.NIC Americka 23, 120 00 Praha 2, Czech Republic mailto:ondrej.sury@nic.cz http://nic.cz/ tel:+420.222745110 fax:+420.222745112 ------------------------------------------- From ynir@checkpoint.com Tue Jul 24 06:30:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9D121F860D for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:30:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.915 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.915 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.216, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_23=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vwqAm7VGbdpV for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.checkpoint.com (smtp.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.68]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E3221F860B for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:30:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com (il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.26]) by smtp.checkpoint.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6ODUrLh010590; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:30:53 +0300 X-CheckPoint: {500EA16B-0-1B221DC2-4FFFF} Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com ([126.0.0.2]) by il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com ([126.0.0.2]) with mapi; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:30:52 +0300 From: Yoav Nir To: =?utf-8?B?T25kxZllaiBTdXLDvQ==?= Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:31:01 +0300 Thread-Topic: [84attendees] 2 extra Social Event tickets (Is Refund possible?) 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Thread-Index: AQHNaQBsZrh8LNeTFE6lIG4XJ2tNHZc2qTGAgAABEwCAApWYUA== Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 02:04:02 +0000 Message-ID: References: <500D9832.8000805@petit-huguenin.org> In-Reply-To: <500D9832.8000805@petit-huguenin.org> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.66.79.130] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Scott Brim Subject: Re: [84attendees] android app? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 02:06:09 -0000 Thanks for sharing~ I was searching it too. It's great to have everything o= n mobile phone.=20 Will > -----Original Message----- > From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Marc Petit-Huguenin > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:30 AM > To: Morgan Sackett > Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org; Scott Brim > Subject: Re: [84attendees] android app? >=20 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 >=20 > Note that there is a bug in the Android app when following a link. The = app > author is working on it. >=20 > On 07/23/2012 11:26 AM, Morgan Sackett wrote: > > Yes, I found it in the Google Play Store. > > > > On Jul 23, 2012 11:24 AM, "Scott Brim" > > wrote: > > > > Is there an android app this time? > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > - -- > Marc Petit-Huguenin > Email: marc@petit-huguenin.org > Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org > Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/petithug > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) >=20 > iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJQDZglAAoJECnERZXWan7ESyMP/29NRGERDNplZA46e9KzTA > JI > z5OeEcW7dI6IEr9xLATU3xNXYcbU6PKDTRESp4QebdGnr/NX+ChITRWMEQsbhc > 3s > eatR13X0xlX3cap9oclLMHp3R0np9RdogbRiR3X/f2LbVOhGP1d1lr7RhKPv7L2V > l2deB/Gx3QGKfWoo9vlQF9onSMN1UG//s0rgHbs1KMG59tsPKHVlTLeJ+PUZb4 > e/ > JE5k5Lp5t3CQYtyChXKw6wRPcIsEdMf4I+iTaEo9LoZvraM7NsCkCg/qj8NyHCYS > H2tK3dPGDCDa6AQnT5TJ1tl2o17nllvkkvoJqXxXP3qWVVdbZVNd4VHNTRgQwI > Ob > NH2bWcuK71tTkfRvoZmQU5ZJNP5QEhQXWf9nDYvFBNBidBbylJIzpQjmyHnjSp > PY > t7kR5/06V6SrOeE+99sOqYEpnekuYRTVS6Qny5+l+1+EnkzK4m8swVaXJhfP4382 > 98dqcQ1Yfpu+LZ12QdvFrlXwG4OiXWcG4D288MM71Rxvi8DD100MHA1n4vdJ > X7kq > 3zxFTpvyUJw08Gdx5aD2lmircwCVKvXm4o85By2w125gvzAmmOy6qqKAZ0WL > LDKX > NfB6+sPDF0k/ynk7gjz6H0eRBiXiXPbT3EUHCgByiPdacilWUBTHbTVRKz44tMiy > splxPdkf3chcLCF6zb/x > =3DjPjN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From mmcbride7@gmail.com Tue Jul 24 21:47:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12EEB21F8498 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.63.13 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:47:48 -0700 Message-ID: From: Mike McBride To: 84attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [84attendees] tennis in vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 04:47:50 -0000 If anyone is up for finding a tennis court in Vancouver please throw me an email and I'll pack my racquet. thanks, mike 3.5ish From btao98@yahoo.com Tue Jul 24 23:08:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2014921F8543 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:08:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.739 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.739 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7GQkf1PYHS3p for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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boundary="1229592896-366611985-1343196498=:35539" Subject: Re: [84attendees] tennis in vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:08:20 -0000 --1229592896-366611985-1343196498=:35539 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike, it appears that there are a few courts within a mile or so from the h= otel near this place: 975 Lagoon Drive, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada The roof of Hyatt might be an option too?:-)=A0I will bring a racquet! Robert Tao =A0=A0 --- On Wed, 7/25/12, Mike McBride wrote: From: Mike McBride Subject: [84attendees] tennis in vancouver To: 84attendees@ietf.org Date: Wednesday, July 25, 2012, 12:47 AM If anyone is up for finding a tennis court in Vancouver please throw me an email and I'll pack my racquet. thanks, mike 3.5ish _______________________________________________ 84attendees mailing list 84attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees --1229592896-366611985-1343196498=:35539 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mike, it appears that there are a few courts = within a mile or so from the hotel near this place:

975 = Lagoon Drive, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

The roof of Hyatt might be an option too?:-)&nb= sp;I will bring a racquet!<= /div>

Robert Tao
If anyone is up for fi= nding a tennis court in Vancouver please throw
me an email and I'll pack my rac= quet.

thanks,
mike
3.5ish
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--1229592896-366611985-1343196498=:35539-- From okaratas@yandex.com Tue Jul 24 23:13:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B03321F856D for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:13:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.129 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.129 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_RU=0.595, HOST_EQ_RU=0.875] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iyf0-EVIEqfv for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from forward18.mail.yandex.net (forward18.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1402::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9CA21F855F for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web17g.yandex.ru (web17g.yandex.ru [95.108.252.117]) by forward18.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id E302F1783B61; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:13:02 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1343196782; bh=Lf8t+JzqDRg9y2IA8HMxAaYdz1q90OoZ+HeqoHqwDF0=; h=From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id: Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=WFWSp/KPCbBbxMcxh1/FM+JHAztkAXjDF12/P4/vUxyqLC5C5Epo3Xp6xBQzsft8p z2KHGTb/7gpnRbhR7Y3udJqNNZFP5MPPnoShHpS67boF71cIihfjCdTjBxC10PIJiy blpJbno1kfhfd2zStYn6AQAw77822LrKktDIrBZ0= Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by web17g.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 858A1148805F; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:13:02 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1343196782; bh=Lf8t+JzqDRg9y2IA8HMxAaYdz1q90OoZ+HeqoHqwDF0=; h=From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:Date; b=ctmlDosLTYTXFvWdxs8YUUyxVvimENQRU+tL+E3BgMYX4JPaYrh+cwV0ZeLwBOeIf Go6nnTRoGBii39TM90ok/2aE95fGXXTHDXyqJ3PWKx4pbynS8P/XWYpZ2ex7b3jG8X ZmcebMc1osz9aET3BEhh17Y6k+dVy3PXivJNRCtU= Received: from asy2.asy170.tellcom.com.tr (asy2.asy170.tellcom.com.tr [213.153.170.2]) by web17g.yandex.ru with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:13:01 +0400 From: Karatas Ozgur To: Yoav Nir In-Reply-To: References: <77E87082-C1B6-4A50-8F9E-5DD3D929C8DF@nic.cz> <140321343141300@web2g.yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <130611343196781@web17g.yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 02:13:01 -0400 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] 2 extra Social Event tickets (Is Refund possible?) 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Thanks
 
Saurabh

 
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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Power Plug Type in Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:19:53 -0000 On 7/25/2012 12:14 AM, Saurabh Srivastava wrote: > Can some one pls guide me what type of power plug is applicable in > Canada (specificallyat Hotel *Hyatt Regency Vancouver*) Type A, "American" plugs, 110-120V, 60Hz, http://wikitravel.org/en/Electrical_systems#Plugs_and_adapters -d From saurabhs22@yahoo.com Wed Jul 25 01:35:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9118721F8567 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A=0AHi All,=0A=A0=0AOne more humble question=0A=A0=0AIs my simple 2G (GSM= ) Indian cell phone would work at Vancouver with international roaming acti= vated ?=0A=A0=0ARegards=0A=A0=0ASauarbh=0A=A0=0A=0A________________________= ________=0AFrom: Saurabh Srivastava =0ATo: "84attende= es@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> =0ASent: Wednesday, 25 July 2012 12:44 = PM=0ASubject: [84attendees] Power Plug Type in Vancouver=0A=0A=0A=A0=0AHi E= veryone,=0A=A0=0ACan some one pls guide me what type of power plug is appli= cable in Canada (specifically at Hotel Hyatt Regency Vancouver)=0A=A0=0ATha= nks=0A=A0=0ASaurabh ---507039889-337197493-1343205327=:73285 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All,
 
One more humble question
 
Is my simple 2G (GSM) Indian cell phone would wo= rk at Vancouver with international roaming activated ?
 
Regards
 
Sauarbh
 
From:= Saurabh Srivastava <saurabhs22@yahoo.com>
To: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attend= ees@ietf.org>
Sent: = Wednesday, 25 July 2012 12:44 PM
Su= bject: [84attendees] Power Plug Type in Vancouver

 
Hi Everyone,
 
Can some one pls guide me what type of power plug is applicable in Cana= da (specifically at Hotel H= yatt Regency Vancouver)
 
Thanks
 
Saurabh

 


---507039889-337197493-1343205327=:73285-- From tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Wed Jul 25 01:55:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADE621F8554 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 01:55:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.366 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.366 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.233, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Owp+-GJckChw for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 01:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:d0:f102::25e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5475C21F84DA for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 01:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (localhost.ecs.soton.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6P8tZJb030039 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:55:35 +0100 X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk q6P8tZJb030039 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=ecs.soton.ac.uk; s=200903; t=1343206535; bh=TJv/G+6hgznMHN8o8fsO1po+IUs=; h=Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:References:To; b=MnewMoEc8Aohi1StUnV9U7Y1JJ75NJ4fAxwhjFWLe7FpVrvlDofHnCQ9pfUkNOHc5 7G7tilZG5osz7tCsndrA6E60nX6+zDKFRys9kmUpIn+tdGwlRUrEr9OGoBNNIPKSKe Ihu4KCE8Q848wN/9BNaE5bfieR8sWVi4WD7UKgt8= Received: from gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk ([2001:630:d0:f102:250:56ff:fea0:401]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [2001:630:d0:f102:250:56ff:fea0:68da]) envelope-from with ESMTP (valid=N/A) id o6O9yZ0430607869Jo ret-id none; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:55:35 +0100 Received: from ip-204-023.eduroam.soton.ac.uk (ip-204-023.eduroam.soton.ac.uk [152.78.204.23]) (authenticated bits=0) by gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6P8tVsI009353 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:55:31 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) From: Tim Chown In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:55:31 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <500D9832.8000805@petit-huguenin.org> To: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-ECS-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-smtpf-Report: sid=o6O9yZ043060786900; tid=o6O9yZ0430607869Jo; client=relay,forged,no_ptr,ipv6; mail=; rcpt=; nrcpt=1:0; fails=0 X-ECS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ECS-MailScanner-ID: q6P8tZJb030039 X-ECS-MailScanner-From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Subject: Re: [84attendees] android app? 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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-362025662-1343208507=:7087 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT According to http://allworldcellphones.com/gsm-frequencies-list.htm India uses 900/1800 (and just 900) while Canada uses 850/1900 (and now 2100 for 3G/4G), so unless you have a "modern" phone, no, it won't work in Canada, or to put it a different way: your phone needs to support 850/1900, something it may not do by default if you got it in India. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo On Wed, 25 Jul 2012, Saurabh Srivastava wrote: > > > Hi All, >   > One more humble question > Is my simple 2G (GSM) Indian cell phone would work at Vancouver > with international roaming activated ? >   > Regards >   > Sauarbh >   > --0-362025662-1343208507=:7087-- From ole@cisco.com Wed Jul 25 02:30:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBFE21F849D for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 02:30:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.546 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.546 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.053, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NsgHCIjs16q9 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 02:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-3.cisco.com (mtv-iport-3.cisco.com [173.36.130.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B2021F849C for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 02:30:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=324; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1343208605; x=1344418205; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=whfKsxH4SAb//HI0OKgOFWYNgBNkq9fPCOrbZwiaEM0=; b=Cq4YNaZbQRJoKZzxYKGKY32lTlsLNoJ4xlfSBLYFJUl9G1rxO1GOIMvo f8bg4xAWKDn5o1JsftyJ1O/lj24LnOazlHlqJrkUiEfJFjyeQzSAAMs0l IUwJ+Rhnfp/3MguPn2ZzzjfC3QOKRzboZduLZDmdHnJwHled3hDIXCdBZ c=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag4FAHK7D1CrRDoJ/2dsb2JhbABCA4UttDaBB4IhAQEEEgECJT8QC0ZXBhMih2oMmySDSBCcc4tngzmDIQOITpJWhTKDGoEEYoJ/gT8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,652,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="50391284" Received: from mtv-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.58.9]) by mtv-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 25 Jul 2012 09:30:03 +0000 Received: from [10.27.1.132] (sjc-ole-8913.cisco.com [10.27.1.132]) by mtv-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6P9U2ek028036; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:30:02 GMT Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 02:29:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Saurabh Srivastava In-Reply-To: <1343205327.73285.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <1343196498.35539.YahooMailClassic@web162006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1343200483.95671.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1343205327.73285.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] 2G GSM Phone in Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:30:06 -0000 By the way, this seems to be a better site for frequency info: http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo From randy@psg.com Wed Jul 25 05:19:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F47F21F8552 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 05:19:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.276 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.276 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.277, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_51=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OOFe2G5bOvKJ for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 05:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E7021F84DF for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 05:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Su0ZF-0005Qt-2Z; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:19:53 +0000 Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 05:19:52 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Saurabh Srivastava In-Reply-To: <1343200483.95671.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> References: <1343196498.35539.YahooMailClassic@web162006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1343200483.95671.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Power Plug Type in Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:19:55 -0000 > Can some one pls guide me what type of power plug is applicable in > Canada (specifically at Hotel Hyatt Regency Vancouver) canada uses normal japanese plugs, which are also used in much of latin america, hawai`i, and the us. often, the grounded variety are available. i kinda like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power_plugs_and_sockets for history and rich detail. randy From dworley@avaya.com Wed Jul 25 05:52:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DC221F8599 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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25 Jul 2012 08:48:48 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO DC-US1HCEX4.global.avaya.com) ([135.11.52.35]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 25 Jul 2012 08:33:02 -0400 Received: from DC-US1MBEX4.global.avaya.com ([169.254.2.202]) by DC-US1HCEX4.global.avaya.com ([135.11.52.35]) with mapi; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:52:33 -0400 From: "Worley, Dale R (Dale)" To: Saurabh Srivastava , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:47:37 -0400 Thread-Topic: [84attendees] Power Plug Type in Vancouver Thread-Index: Ac1qNTCGiECF4XCARmGsZR7vkLJvEwALnqvp Message-ID: References: <1343196498.35539.YahooMailClassic@web162006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <1343200483.95671.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1343200483.95671.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [84attendees] Power Plug Type in Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:52:35 -0000 > From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Beha= lf Of Saurabh Srivastava [saurabhs22@yahoo.com] >=20 > Can some one pls guide me what type of power plug is applicable in Canada= (specifically at Hotel Hyatt Regency Vancouver) "North America" (that is, Canada and the United States) all uses 120 V 60 H= z power with "type A" plugs. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_plugs= #North_American_and_IEC_60906-2 ). In newer construction, outlets all acce= pt the 3rd ground pin and accept polarized plugs. Type A non-polarized plug= s will fit in polarized sockets. Although the Japanese standards are not exactly the same as the North Ameri= can standards, reports are that Japanese plugs fit all North American outle= ts. Dale From david.black@emc.com Wed Jul 25 06:48:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA71821F85E3 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:48:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.464 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.464 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.135, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vWuXFCggGxN8 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexforward.lss.emc.com (hop-nat-141.emc.com [168.159.213.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9001A21F85E4 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hop04-l1d11-si01.isus.emc.com (HOP04-L1D11-SI01.isus.emc.com [10.254.111.54]) by mexforward.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id q6PDmVaf014052 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:48:31 -0400 Received: from mailhub.lss.emc.com (mailhub.lss.emc.com [10.254.222.130]) by hop04-l1d11-si01.isus.emc.com (RSA Interceptor) for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:48:06 -0400 Received: from mxhub01.corp.emc.com (mxhub01.corp.emc.com [10.254.141.103]) by mailhub.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id q6PDm6FM021442 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:48:06 -0400 Received: from mxhub39.corp.emc.com (128.222.70.106) by mxhub01.corp.emc.com (10.254.141.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:48:05 -0400 Received: from mx15a.corp.emc.com ([169.254.1.189]) by mxhub39.corp.emc.com ([128.222.70.106]) with mapi; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:48:06 -0400 From: To: <84attendees@ietf.org> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:48:04 -0400 Thread-Topic: [84attendees] 2G GSM Phone in Vancouver Thread-Index: Ac1qR+kpfsSZooQHRI+kq9obmd+fbQAI5fNw Message-ID: <8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE71208DD929E@MX15A.corp.emc.com> References: <1343196498.35539.YahooMailClassic@web162006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1343200483.95671.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1343205327.73285.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-EMM-MHVC: 1 Subject: Re: [84attendees] 2G GSM Phone in Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:48:37 -0000 Canada uses the same GSM frequencies as the US, so one needs an internation= al multi-band phone that works in the US. For 2G GSM, that's a 3-band or 4-ba= nd phone that includes at least one of 850 and/or 1900. Thanks, --David > -----Original Message----- > From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = On > Behalf Of Ole Jacobsen > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 5:28 AM > To: Saurabh Srivastava > Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [84attendees] 2G GSM Phone in Vancouver >=20 >=20 >=20 > According to http://allworldcellphones.com/gsm-frequencies-list.htm > India uses 900/1800 (and just 900) while Canada uses 850/1900 (and > now 2100 for 3G/4G), so unless you have a "modern" phone, no, it > won't work in Canada, or to put it a different way: your phone needs > to support 850/1900, something it may not do by default if you got > it in India. >=20 > Ole >=20 >=20 > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > Skype: organdemo >=20 >=20 > On Wed, 25 Jul 2012, Saurabh Srivastava wrote: >=20 > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > One more humble question > >=A0Is my simple 2G (GSM) Indian cell phone would work at Vancouver > > with international roaming activated ? > > > > Regards > > > > Sauarbh > > > > From bithika@gmail.com Wed Jul 25 07:43:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E49721F8608 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:43:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xtxkq7q6RoSr for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bk0-f44.google.com (mail-bk0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7471921F8607 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bkty7 with SMTP id y7so561452bkt.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:43:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=QV/2XM+aLW9uIMdiHe1VwfCJhR2NI79OfH1Nayn0dLw=; b=wjhC2UX2NE03V8UmXj6AbSi5PsT4H5UUU48SG3MJSeyOy62SE+Cw8FDe/Z82toUa77 2ccgbri4hHeZksLSZZHFhpOlWS6hrImKKp6vLEaYOyWwUd0pySdMejlgoVYF3OY7c8/W eB03y+HLBAu3zR32jK0W1lPSUXN88O9VoVYyVvUCb7aDY+FYcKJIMCkr/TVPUyLn7XZ7 PIqmrXP0zbg2/2jDio0VjVSzrT2hz3rXgaPXiyxHgPatLDav82S69gXhr54zMtvWQULF 3Bz3fbjO1ZuUbW1Lf5aOdKIaxUKUtsbTYkAc2G8M3lHjSv/AK69SSlcfiykPDO/AD0E/ Lkmg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.134.6 with SMTP id ia6mr12575346bkc.51.1343227402058; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.232.14 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:43:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <130611343196781@web17g.yandex.ru> References: <77E87082-C1B6-4A50-8F9E-5DD3D929C8DF@nic.cz> <140321343141300@web2g.yandex.ru> <130611343196781@web17g.yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:43:22 -0400 Message-ID: From: Bithika Khargharia To: 84attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0d86226fbcf04c5a8801e Subject: Re: [84attendees] 2 extra Social Event tickets (Is Refund possible?) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:43:24 -0000 --000e0ce0d86226fbcf04c5a8801e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, Is this free for IETF attendees to do we need to buy a ticket. Thanks Bithika On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Karatas Ozgur wrote: > Hello Yoav; > > thanks for all help, nice to meet you. > > Regards > > Ozgur Karatas > > 24.07.2012, 10:59, "Yoav Nir" : > > Well, Ond=C5=99ej has a couple to sell=E2=80=A6 > > > > Also, https://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf84/eventticket.py > > > > On Jul 24, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Karatas Ozgur wrote: > > > >> Hello all; > >> > >> Where can I get? Social event ticket? Could you share a url please? > >> > >> Thank you, > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Ozgur > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > --000e0ce0d86226fbcf04c5a8801e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All,

Is this free for IETF attendees to do we need to buy a ticke= t.

Thanks
Bithika

On Wed, Jul 2= 5, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Karatas Ozgur <okaratas@yandex.com> wr= ote:
Hello Yoav;

thanks for all help, nice to meet you.

Regards

Ozgur Karatas

24.07.2012, 10:59, "Yoav Nir" <ynir@checkpoint.com>:
> Well, Ond=C5=99ej has a couple to sell=E2=80=A6
>
> Also, https://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf84/eventticket.= py
>
> On Jul 24, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Karatas Ozgur wrote:
>
>> =C2=A0Hello all;
>>
>> =C2=A0Where can I get? Social event ticket? Could you share a url = please?
>>
>> =C2=A0Thank you,
>>
>> =C2=A0Regards
>>
>> =C2=A0Ozgur
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--000e0ce0d86226fbcf04c5a8801e-- From johnl@taugh.com Wed Jul 25 07:45:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0381321F84EB for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:45:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.586 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.586 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ixe991lLhM3E for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5503A21F849C for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 57877 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2012 14:45:33 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=e214.5010068d.k1207; bh=vuiabimQ3h3UngGt8tu400PHYVscAg5TpvcUWljkjsM=; b=anzS70YJ/Af+lkwybJ6uH9Jmnk7uAzeW024IaxB9fT44b0x6ulPH0oZ2Y9+q8n1Bw1XXhs12ZYDhrZd+64pPq1yz2XNnximH/2/wxr9TuQGffyfwBem/UDTlCPbnoGJPjXul+6fifdenJtjR0U3t+vDgICSVVnYADwzbZRbEFh0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=e214.5010068d.k1207; bh=vuiabimQ3h3UngGt8tu400PHYVscAg5TpvcUWljkjsM=; b=OBhOIwZ0HgJ+FzHhztLcvhrPyBtnD4eseDTx7TFdqMZUjQokXRgYjngMefv0nd6tO/uTmkj9u5+gQQWe8SvyeHgdvudqDtVjhn6nOOB13e/0pxbx1e44fncc1kGX/YZMnMmSK+sG0PngHSPgrg5rDxoNEFNBhqei6nPi9iOJEw4= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 25 Jul 2012 14:45:11 -0000 Date: 25 Jul 2012 10:45:33 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: 84attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: References: <1343196498.35539.YahooMailClassic@web162006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1343200483.95671.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1343205327.73285.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE71208DD929E@MX15A.corp.emc.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [84attendees] 2G GSM Phone in Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:45:35 -0000 > Canada uses the same GSM frequencies as the US, so one needs an > international multi-band phone that works in the US. For 2G GSM, that's > a 3-band or 4-band phone that includes at least one of 850 and/or 1900. Your carrier also needs a roaming agreement with Rogers or Fido in Canada. (Some other carriers sell SIMs but I think they're 4G only.) R's, John From Sandra.Murphy@sparta.com Wed Jul 25 07:49:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B0921F8610 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:49:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.537 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.537 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.061, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1Al5bCYumcPk for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from M4.sparta.com (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA4521F8607 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Beta5.sparta.com (beta5.sparta.com [157.185.63.21]) by M4.sparta.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6PEnBDm010868; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:49:11 -0500 Received: from Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com ([157.185.80.107]) by Beta5.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6PEn573013023; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:49:05 -0500 Received: from HERMES.columbia.ads.sparta.com ([2002:9db9:506b::9db9:506b]) by Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com ([2002:9db9:506b::9db9:506b]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.002; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:49:19 -0400 From: "Murphy, Sandra" To: Bithika Khargharia , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [84attendees] 2 extra Social Event tickets (Is Refund possible?) Thread-Index: Ac1prOAX99HtabjCzEOYPv2cXs+D0gAoTIuAABHS4gD//73Y7g== Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:49:18 +0000 Message-ID: <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F33E6C@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> References: <77E87082-C1B6-4A50-8F9E-5DD3D929C8DF@nic.cz> <140321343141300@web2g.yandex.ru> <130611343196781@web17g.yandex.ru>, In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [157.185.63.118] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F33E6CHermescolumbiaa_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [84attendees] 2 extra Social Event tickets (Is Refund possible?) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:49:15 -0000 --_000_24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F33E6CHermescolumbiaa_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You need a ticket. On main ietf84 page http://www.ietf.org/meeting/84/, look under Social Even= t for link to info page http://www.ietf.org/meeting/84/social.html for desc= ription and ticket price ($25) and link to registration page https://www.ie= tf.org/registration/ietf84/eventticket.py to register. (You have to regist= er for the ietf first). --Sandy ________________________________ From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf= of Bithika Khargharia [bithika@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:43 AM To: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] 2 extra Social Event tickets (Is Refund possible= ?) Hi All, Is this free for IETF attendees to do we need to buy a ticket. Thanks Bithika On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Karatas Ozgur > wrote: Hello Yoav; thanks for all help, nice to meet you. Regards Ozgur Karatas 24.07.2012, 10:59, "Yoav Nir" >: > Well, Ond=F8ej has a couple to sell=85 > > Also, https://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf84/eventticket.py > > On Jul 24, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Karatas Ozgur wrote: > >> Hello all; >> >> Where can I get? Social event ticket? Could you share a url please? >> >> Thank you, >> >> Regards >> >> Ozgur _______________________________________________ 84attendees mailing list 84attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees --_000_24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F33E6CHermescolumbiaa_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You need a ticket.

On main ietf84 page http://www.ietf.org/meeting/84/, look under Social Event for li= nk to info page ht= tp://www.ietf.org/meeting/84/social.html for description and ticket pri= ce ($25) and link to registration page https://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf84/eventticket.py to register.&nb= sp; (You have to register for the ietf first).

--Sandy

From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [84att= endees-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Bithika Khargharia [bithika@gmail.com= ]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:43 AM
To: 84attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [84attendees] 2 extra Social Event tickets (Is Refund p= ossible?)

Hi All,

Is this free for IETF attendees to do we need to buy a ticket.

Thanks
Bithika

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Karatas Ozgur <= span dir=3D"ltr"> <okaratas@yande= x.com> wrote:
Hello Yoav;

thanks for all help, nice to meet you.

Regards

Ozgur Karatas

24.07.2012, 10:59, "Yoav Nir" <ynir@checkpoint.com>:
> Well, Ond=F8ej has a couple to sell=85
>
> Also, https://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf84/eventticket.py
>
> On Jul 24, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Karatas Ozgur wrote:
>
>>  Hello all;
>>
>>  Where can I get? Social event ticket? Could you share a url = please?
>>
>>  Thank you,
>>
>>  Regards
>>
>>  Ozgur
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--_000_24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F33E6CHermescolumbiaa_-- From randy@psg.com Wed Jul 25 08:59:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3E821F86B6 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:59:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.572 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.572 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.027, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aKp+O0N4es5X for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774B321F86B4 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Su3zk-0005wE-NP for 84attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:59:29 +0000 Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:59:28 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:59:30 -0000 revolver coffee turns out not to open until 08:00. this is a very serious problem for us early risers. is there a nearby second best? randy From kerlyn2001@gmail.com Wed Jul 25 09:11:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C7D21F8610 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:11:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.945 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.945 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.032, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V7CowY890H9e for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF7021F85F2 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lbbgo11 with SMTP id go11so820460lbb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:11:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=bdGkf8DgwBIfz69Y8h+IePlvSokBZvVoyrCJOuc+fhU=; b=gInqjV8Pq8PUEGcvCL+FNMr5ZtlCIDchMTEskyZB3KzGgehfQbch3n0jep/CM9T8Lu 3hZCCpUzSl8xXl6DcEpMuyE/N4uxxio9ObRtNohJnfH3pp7soXJLEtsUGbmPecxWpen2 p2OYypt34n+1W7p264VsGCujEhGUigoGrh+izcfk5SBPtaTCHNiLOAGFYyA7puY3r0Fn qo2ilOhh1mhZfOZpjCgWi/IaPG2n/WeV3/r5pRJ8SGdAeWP+1GMmOvVw8qT14byqonJp 8DnqYoxfAq8/AMxuGi7KWDJchO1nw8S3Ff17kjcBjaZl1bXbVGloRejicNl77VnHcMRE L9JA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.27.226 with SMTP id w2mr12079406lbg.57.1343232684824; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Sender: kerlyn2001@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.80.7 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:11:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:11:24 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ll2RYi9wY7oYisTWfz3_9I2mcLk Message-ID: From: Kerry Lynn To: Randy Bush Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:11:27 -0000 On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > revolver coffee turns out not to open until > 08:00. this is a very serious problem for us early risers. is there a > nearby second best? > Starbucks VIA. In Paris, I had to purchase an electric kettle and left it for the maid when I departed. Hopefully Vancouver is a little more relaxed re: in-room coffee makers ;-) -K- > randy > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From prvs=25537dbee2=sshew@ciena.com Wed Jul 25 09:12:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A99F21F86DD for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:12:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.264 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.264 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, WEIRD_PORT=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jC1ZqmEr89na for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0b-00103a01.pphosted.com (mx0b-00103a01.pphosted.com [67.231.152.227]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF5121F86DC for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0001124 [127.0.0.1]) by mx0b-00103a01.pphosted.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q6PGAftd025674 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:12:25 -0400 Received: from mdwexght01.ciena.com (LIN1-118-36-28.ciena.com [63.118.36.28]) by mx0b-00103a01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 16ahcb0gtw-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:12:24 -0400 Received: from ONWVEXCHHT02.ciena.com (10.128.6.17) by MDWEXGHT01.ciena.com (10.4.140.138) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.192.1; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:12:26 -0400 Received: from ONWVEXCHMB02.ciena.com ([::1]) by ONWVEXCHHT02.ciena.com ([::1]) with mapi; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:12:25 -0400 From: "Shew, Stephen" To: attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:12:24 -0400 Thread-Topic: [84attendees] coffee Thread-Index: Ac1qfoRlrbWyH+hVTMGN14HNIgP7OwAAU1fg Message-ID: <510C3D5C5DFBCB46AE189D936C1DD605A5FE131D7D@ONWVEXCHMB02.ciena.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-07-25_04:2012-07-25, 2012-07-25, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1207250157 Subject: Re: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:12:26 -0000 There is a local coffee chain called Caffe Artigiano and they have a locati= on 280 meters from the Hyatt which opens at 05:30. https://www.caffeartigiano.com:3691/Location_Vancouver_Hornby.aspx I discovered them a few years ago and in my opinion, they have the best cof= fee in the world. Stephen -----Original Message----- From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Randy Bush Sent: 25 July, 2012 11:59 To: attendees Subject: [84attendees] coffee revolver coffee turns out not to open until 08:= 00. this is a very serious problem for us early risers. is there a nearby= second best? randy _______________________________________________ 84attendees mailing list 84attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From dan@danwing.org Wed Jul 25 09:19:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A200321F86F3 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:19:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hWlPOje5V5uA for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rincewind.ksquared.net (rincewind.ksquared.net [216.129.106.12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD8D21F86F2 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rincewind.ksquared.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EEEB4C52; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rincewind.ksquared.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rincewind.ksquared.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FsrlIZTKrdss; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.21.78.151] (128-107-239-233.cisco.com [128.107.239.233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dwing) by rincewind.ksquared.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0806CB4C3A; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50101C78.5080006@danwing.org> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:19:04 -0700 From: Dan Wing User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randy Bush References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:19:12 -0000 On 7/25/2012 8:59 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > revolver coffee turns out not to open until > 08:00. this is a very serious problem for us early risers. Sexy place. > is there a nearby second best? I haven't visited, but I see that http://www.jjbeancoffee.com/cafes has several locations within a few blocks, 740 Hamilton St., Weekdays: 7:30am-4:00pm, Closed on weekends & holidays 146 W. Cordova St., Monday-Friday 7am-7pm, Weekends 8am-5pm 1188 Alberni St., Monday-Friday 6am-10pm, Weekends 7am-10pm My last few visits to Vancouver Caffe Artigiano didn't make great espresso (but does have good milk drinks), but I will point out http://www.espressomap.com lists three locations of Caffe Artigiano nearby, closest is 763 Hornby St, 300m away. Opens at 6:30am. -d From randy@psg.com Wed Jul 25 09:20:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268BA21F86A4 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:20:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.572 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.572 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.027, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L3e6PI43rq6T for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6456121F8690 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mobile-166-147-092-137.mycingular.net ([166.147.92.137] helo=[10.175.46.26]) by psg.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Su4Jj-0006rG-JZ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:20:07 +0000 References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <22D16FC7-2D94-45A4-8372-91EF2865198A@psg.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Randy Bush Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:19:37 -0700 To: Kerry Lynn Cc: attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:20:20 -0000 I actually get to Van tomorrow. So I'll report on the weekend. randy, on a stinkin' iPhone On Jul 25, 2012, at 9:11, Kerry Lynn wrote: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> revolver coffee turns out not to open until >> 08:00. this is a very serious problem for us early risers. is there a >> nearby second best? >> > Starbucks VIA. In Paris, I had to purchase an electric kettle and left it > for the maid when I departed. Hopefully Vancouver is a little more relaxed > re: in-room coffee makers ;-) > > -K- > >> randy >> _______________________________________________ >> 84attendees mailing list >> 84attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From bcampbell@pingidentity.com Wed Jul 25 09:20:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C1F21F86E4 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:20:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.984 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.984 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.009, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, WEIRD_PORT=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SHmax61lDVz6 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na3sys009aog136.obsmtp.com (na3sys009aog136.obsmtp.com [74.125.149.85]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D53F21F86D0 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f44.google.com ([209.85.212.44]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009aob136.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUBAcys2gLeYquoLiJRHUCne0oc5JituV@postini.com; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:20:28 PDT Received: by vbbez10 with SMTP id ez10so784217vbb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:20:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=PE5qTJZC7YmOiTeTybIac7VlO3Mp9TvCNVcTIgwqb4M=; b=or+5skgyRBxCzwhSKv+GDp8pw7zLaj23hfZyqYgmqS0T+ByT2MvVZSPBU93JDnDO0D 8QIj6jQE1pt8hZTSs1aY2NuDDHepevF/bt+oudrhblAHgINk+UpHX6OiZlPfaqV0iCrh IY8zR8o9P5tCrdKzKp+9mQjx86SttY40Skj8mwdnG+IOZXRL3I96VnaXwmnbVjMaA+L4 zmREyKp37bOjskUyj+MJh2Re1e9xKdzuFPZujz+CY0nZmIm/NvMKRVlIlPpQrCNVcGGN 9MQYH5FDTGn/ng+WmHPYRjUwGFpytlZichg7UCBMF0ry5NXyrexEgbV77XsF7sVRoTo+ 6icQ== Received: by 10.52.73.225 with SMTP id o1mr16369588vdv.77.1343233220010; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:20:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.162.130 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:19:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <510C3D5C5DFBCB46AE189D936C1DD605A5FE131D7D@ONWVEXCHMB02.ciena.com> References: <510C3D5C5DFBCB46AE189D936C1DD605A5FE131D7D@ONWVEXCHMB02.ciena.com> From: Brian Campbell Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:19:49 -0600 Message-ID: To: "Shew, Stephen" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f3494ede2ec04c5a9daf8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmUWhYFQmqOXhwzLznByCRUeQCU5BHxHR5tgt/6/iDdrjriY2EWGPNiu9SJMSIDxRpAvPuz Cc: attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:20:29 -0000 --20cf307f3494ede2ec04c5a9daf8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was in Vancouver few weeks ago and Artigiano is definitely a good option. I also stumbled on this little place called Mario's Coffee (595 Howe Street is pretty close to the Hyatt) which I would recommend - I thought they had good coffee and nice people - though it was a little pricey and I don't know how early they open. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Shew, Stephen wrote: > There is a local coffee chain called Caffe Artigiano and they have a > location 280 meters from the Hyatt which opens at 05:30. > https://www.caffeartigiano.com:3691/Location_Vancouver_Hornby.aspx > > I discovered them a few years ago and in my opinion, they have the best > coffee in the world. > > Stephen > > -----Original Message----- > From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Randy Bush > Sent: 25 July, 2012 11:59 > To: attendees > Subject: [84attendees] coffee > > revolver coffee turns out not to open until > 08:00. this is a very serious problem for us early risers. is there a > nearby second best? > > randy > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > --20cf307f3494ede2ec04c5a9daf8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was in Vancouver few weeks ago and Artigiano is definitely a good option.= I also stumbled on this little place called Mario's Coffee (595 Howe S= treet is pretty close to the Hyatt) which I would recommend - I thought the= y had good coffee and nice people - though it was a little pricey and I don= 't know how early they open.=A0


On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Shew, = Stephen <sshew@ciena.com> wrote:
There is a local coffee chain called Caffe Artigiano and they have a locati= on 280 meters from the Hyatt which opens at 05:30.
https://www.caffeartigiano.com:3691/Location_Vancouve= r_Hornby.aspx

I discovered them a few years ago and in my opinion, they have the best cof= fee in the world.

Stephen

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From: 84attendees-bounces@i= etf.org [mailto:84atten= dees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Randy Bush
Sent: 25 July, 2012 11:59
To: attendees
Subject: [84attendees] coffee

revolver coffee <http://revolvercoffee.ca/> turns out not to open until 08:00. =A0th= is is a very serious problem for us early risers. =A0is there a nearby seco= nd best?

randy
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--20cf307f3494ede2ec04c5a9daf8-- From eburger@standardstrack.com Wed Jul 25 10:36:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956A621F8701 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:36:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.74 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fN0AGaBCeEij for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biz104.inmotionhosting.com (biz104.inmotionhosting.com [173.247.254.120]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1C021F8700 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:36:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [141.161.20.199] (port=53551) by biz104.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Su5Vd-0007Ct-Hf for 84attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:36:32 -0700 From: Eric Burger Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-92--141632494; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:36:27 -0400 Message-Id: <966BC737-498F-4040-86E5-CBA1CE2E7F99@standardstrack.com> To: 84attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - biz104.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: [84attendees] Soccer BOF - The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:36:46 -0000 --Apple-Mail-92--141632494 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The Good: There is strong consensus and critical mass to have a game on Sunday, = Monday, and/or Tuesday evening. 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<500D9832.8000805@petit-huguenin.org> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:01:14 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8y4wE8Wl3YogC0X-iWVlwZF8qXo Message-ID: From: Barry Leiba To: Tim Chown Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4efe3502d7046304c5ab434b Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] android app? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:01:17 -0000 --e0cb4efe3502d7046304c5ab434b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I haven't seen an update for the iOS app with the new 84 agenda yet, > should I have? > I got that update some while ago. Barry --e0cb4efe3502d7046304c5ab434b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I haven't seen an update for the iOS app= with the new 84 agenda yet, should I have?

I got that update some while ago.

Barry
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--e0cb4efe3502d7046304c5ab434b-- From york@isoc.org Wed Jul 25 11:15:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E065621F871C for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:15:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f4oPF4lcsQgq for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp153.ord.emailsrvr.com (smtp153.ord.emailsrvr.com [173.203.6.153]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BB321F8717 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp12.relay.ord1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 73A4D2E0192; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:15:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp12.relay.ord1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: york-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 253812E0183; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D8F052C9-8414-4C98-A4DC-3C69020CF26F" From: Dan York In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:15:50 -0400 Message-Id: References: <500D9832.8000805@petit-huguenin.org> To: Tim Chown X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: [84attendees] Getting to IETF84 info in the iOS app Re: android app? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:15:53 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_D8F052C9-8414-4C98-A4DC-3C69020CF26F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jul 25, 2012, at 4:55 AM, Tim Chown wrote: >=20 > The apps are excellent. I haven't seen an update for the iOS app with = the new 84 agenda yet, should I have? The updated iOS app is out there now, but it took me a little bit to = figure out how to change to the IETF 84 data. I was in the "Schedule" = tab and couldn't see how to change from seeing the Paris sessions. =20 It turns out that you need to go to the "Locations" tab (iPad) or = "Meetings" tab (iPhone) where there is a "Meetings" button in the upper = left that takes you to the list of IETF meetings. =46rom that list you = can choose to go down into IETF 84. Once you make the change, the = Locations/Meetings, Schedule and Groups tabs all update with the = Vancouver info.=20 I will second the comment about how excellent these apps are! MANY = thanks to whomever is behind creating them. They are an excellent way to = stay up on what is going on right now within the meeting in a very = convenient and portable way. Thanks, Dan -- Dan York Senior Content Strategist, Internet Society york@isoc.org +1-802-735-1624=20 Jabber: york@jabber.isoc.org=20 Skype: danyork http://twitter.com/danyork http://www.internetsociety.org/deploy360/= --Apple-Mail=_D8F052C9-8414-4C98-A4DC-3C69020CF26F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

The apps are excellent.  I haven't = seen an update for the iOS app with the new 84 agenda yet, should I = have?

The updated iOS app is out = there now, but it took me a little bit to figure out how to change to = the IETF 84 data. I was in the "Schedule" tab and couldn't see how = to change from seeing the Paris sessions. =  

It turns out that you need to go to = the "Locations" tab (iPad) or "Meetings" tab (iPhone) where there is a = "Meetings" button in the upper left that takes you to the list of IETF = meetings. =46rom that list you can choose to go down into IETF = 84. Once you make the change, the Locations/Meetings, Schedule and = Groups tabs all update with the Vancouver = info. 

I will second the comment about how = excellent these apps are!  MANY thanks to whomever is behind = creating them. They are an excellent way to stay up on what is going on = right now within the meeting in a very convenient and portable = way.

Thanks,
Dan

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Dan York
Senior Content Strategist, Internet = Society
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= --Apple-Mail=_D8F052C9-8414-4C98-A4DC-3C69020CF26F-- From bector.online@gmail.com Wed Jul 25 21:25:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BAC11E809B for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:25:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.739 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.739 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30XWgSa-fBgo for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com (mail-ee0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442A411E809A for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eekb45 with SMTP id b45so240749eek.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:25:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rlFI6G0dDNZWdWbHUesclxUG1yiTksA8q1fIpa/zhyQ=; b=o8JJN+tMjHqH/tOxvtLYKfkj+Que5srZ1Py8s78xEHVVFbWebag5N6M4bdWRZKr+4B lAbjZrjBWoX4Zggp4HIGyPAdI5x0PFQSzHVizRPSm17AGRfK+nXnkrh9q0UxMdHNdeAN fmrsMOfyWmFC0nSSGAtQpSK8qxk3FT9murcltcSXGXQTNoTJ1AKOXWAPwmAFu0hAl1Ot pYkVYpOrO45E3HDe44EF0MKSej2WkfRAcQUxyN08zGFmdOmNwrZdY/Oz5pKaMzLHTTJ7 fUzJA8PiPN2ySIi17LCcPpm/jwY1rTichRZpC25pe1mVsFCrCbHypIYzUa6PvMiCeVX0 ieEQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.218.137 with SMTP id k9mr2497088eep.25.1343276752419; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.175.194 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 23:25:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: Rajeev Bector To: 84attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b604726a9ba3a04c5b3fdfd Subject: [84attendees] any shutterbugs wanting to go out shooting ? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 04:25:54 -0000 --047d7b604726a9ba3a04c5b3fdfd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am hoping to spend a cpl evenings going around taking pictures. My return flight is on Sunday so I am also planning to do a day trip on Saturday doing the same thing - hiking and photography. Hope to search around for some photo-ops. Suggestions for photo ops and day trips are appreciated. Cheers, Rajeev --047d7b604726a9ba3a04c5b3fdfd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am hoping to spend a cpl evenings going around taking pictures. My return= flight is on Sunday so I am also planning to do a day trip on Saturday doi= ng the same thing - hiking and photography.=A0
Hope to search around fo= r some photo-ops. Suggestions for photo ops and day trips are appreciated.= =A0

Cheers,
Rajeev
--047d7b604726a9ba3a04c5b3fdfd-- From bcampbell@pingidentity.com Thu Jul 26 07:23:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9A321F8768 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 07:23:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.984 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.984 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C4VAnCFzw9x2 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 07:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na3sys009aog130.obsmtp.com (na3sys009aog130.obsmtp.com [74.125.149.143]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0435A21F8763 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 07:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f48.google.com ([209.85.212.48]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009aob130.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUBFS+npWN2ZJZB9LT67p7Mlgr4SeLbH5@postini.com; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 07:23:55 PDT Received: by vbjk17 with SMTP id k17so1682546vbj.7 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 07:23:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=SKHIvEfU33HT/cm1/xMn9YrJzmJXDlR7OLMnrsVeqRE=; b=QLXpCf/Qr5osY+2lWT/oGeMgMjN8WfgVv+bGSSOcB+UceyF3citkzPx/CPr4dtivQ3 UIsRAmc5LHPCE/kgcuMEeRKeFqXbcyLvjuMzuL7nt1A4uCJ0PaOB9ZKjaopRPKzx+tge e/Ln4t4DcJ1/aefYTby6E29cUpaQbbNZQnb3NeL5r5zNIDAnUXxGxPUqDVP17/PwFnol nugm4Qbe9UBdFG4tf61RtLXKwSwkDz7GInkFvxDj+wL/Fp7pwKSGiXWdJ2lYiMgx/h+T htz2hjcis9tYYYldeFhW8iWekTcW6Vgq4T4zGOKX0xO/5t6jp6/FRv9DBfyrzR6jqvby Cnrg== Received: by 10.52.94.147 with SMTP id dc19mr8989243vdb.74.1343312633491; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 07:23:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.162.130 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 07:23:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Brian Campbell Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 08:23:23 -0600 Message-ID: To: Rajeev Bector Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkHJ+BAVXczVhQN0JRGmHFtRE7/nJAAG92DcGb3ev0Afx2zEWrOHXF5uq36hNCEBJti6R3j Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] any shutterbugs wanting to go out shooting ? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 14:23:57 -0000 Vancouver, IMHO, is a great city to bring the camera along to. At least in the summer when it's not raining :) In the evenings, Granville Island has some nice ops: http://www.flickr.com/photos/brian-d-campbell/5860309763/in/set-72157627035929372/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/brian-d-campbell/5868534242/in/set-72157627035929372/ Or Coal Harbor in the evenings in nice too: http://www.flickr.com/photos/brian-d-campbell/5865943219/in/set-72157627035929372/ A tram ride or fairly strenuous hike up Grouse Mountain has a nice view back down on the city: http://www.flickr.com/photos/brian-d-campbell/7574139446/in/set-72157630714214012/ And there seem to be lots of nice random photo ops with all the art and architecture around the city: http://www.flickr.com/photos/brian-d-campbell/5879093389/in/set-72157627035929372/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/brian-d-campbell/7556758120/in/set-72157630714214012/ Anyway, those are just some places I've enjoyed shooting in the Vancouver area. There are no doubt other good (probably better) places too. -Brian On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Rajeev Bector wrote: > I am hoping to spend a cpl evenings going around taking pictures. My return > flight is on Sunday so I am also planning to do a day trip on Saturday doing > the same thing - hiking and photography. > Hope to search around for some photo-ops. Suggestions for photo ops and day > trips are appreciated. > > Cheers, > Rajeev > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > From kathleen.moriarty@emc.com Thu Jul 26 07:34:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00A421F85C0 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 07:34:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.498 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.498 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uMl5J3Sa3FjW for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 07:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexforward.lss.emc.com (hop-nat-141.emc.com [168.159.213.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBD021F8577 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 07:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hop04-l1d11-si04.isus.emc.com (HOP04-L1D11-SI04.isus.emc.com [10.254.111.24]) by mexforward.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id q6QEYrV3003070 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:34:57 -0400 Received: from mailhub.lss.emc.com (mailhub.lss.emc.com [10.254.222.130]) by hop04-l1d11-si04.isus.emc.com (RSA Interceptor) for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:34:44 -0400 Received: from mxhub34.corp.emc.com (mxhub34.corp.emc.com [10.254.93.82]) by mailhub.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id q6QEYiwE019925 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:34:44 -0400 Received: from mx15a.corp.emc.com ([169.254.1.189]) by mxhub34.corp.emc.com ([::1]) with mapi; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:34:43 -0400 From: To: <84attendees@ietf.org> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:34:42 -0400 Thread-Topic: open water swimming Thread-Index: Ac1rO8uYs8W+qiJAT4a/35EBCuzSKw== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F5063677821E3B4F81ACFB7905573F2403B95F0DMX15Acorpemccom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-EMM-MHVC: 1 Subject: [84attendees] open water swimming X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 14:34:59 -0000 --_000_F5063677821E3B4F81ACFB7905573F2403B95F0DMX15Acorpemccom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If anyone is interested in open water swimming, let me know! I think morni= ngs may be easier for me. It looks like the locals go to English Bay beach 1. They do have 2 organiz= ed swims (that I could find) that range from 1-4 kilometers, but are during= the plenary sessions. The water temperature should be in the low 70s, but= I have not found an exact reading, just averages for this time of year. I= am packing a sleeveless wetsuit, and a bright cap (for those that may want= to consider packing these items). Please email me directly if you are interested. It looks like the beach is= less than a mile from the meeting venue. There is also a saltwater pool that is 150 yards, but is a little further. Thank you, Kathleen --_000_F5063677821E3B4F81ACFB7905573F2403B95F0DMX15Acorpemccom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If anyone is interested in open water swimming, let me know!  I t= hink mornings may be easier for me.
 
It looks like the locals go to English Bay beach 1.  They do have= 2 organized swims (that I could find) that range from 1-4 kilometers, but = are during the plenary sessions.  The water temperature should be in t= he low 70s, but I have not found an exact reading, just averages for this time of year.  I am packing a sleevele= ss wetsuit, and a bright cap (for those that may want to consider packing t= hese items).
 
Please email me directly if you are interested.  It looks like th= e beach is less than a mile from the meeting venue.
 
There is also a saltwater pool that is 150 yards, but is a little furt= her.
 
Thank you,
Kathleen
 
 --_000_F5063677821E3B4F81ACFB7905573F2403B95F0DMX15Acorpemccom_-- From superuser@gmail.com Thu Jul 26 12:15:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F0A21F85BB for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:15:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.739 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.739 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.000, BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rqQE-NHsJUA3 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F82F21F85A8 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lbbgo11 with SMTP id go11so1748196lbb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:15:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9GNNZf62NA0pArhhhJuvWT0yDAnrddq93uG1aV8r3x0=; b=KiHdE6MZ9PbvC35Bsm3Gp32WUYRLCdJu+nQjEs+Aq627lLqvyI066Y00D4pC9yWin0 ipd4MB9Uu0Kovh/IVye11PrD+TTAT8aogkkDDCGYt/v3/kuMQLzCBwVMcJcN6LTr3dB0 ghiHaNNJtnOK6Z0OyV7bPQPjVbxDGsFSSOuG5jkg9dP97Yxkx4zt3dxMpw2uqdx1yhZb 7Uy1mbwJxZhHAl6ZenoQ2yY24NqybTQcktsOhLmtfwFZ8Ghav34gPcgsP+ZRwvaDrG0Y Nhl60egTwiQFrFBgAyI7MNf9Ou/Tj4+B+ccpDegBkxtgV2yCA9E0HG7I+G9EzvkdHIVQ MGPQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.112.233 with SMTP id it9mr30732730lab.40.1343330154594; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.89.3 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:15:54 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: 84attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040838d3ae3f9a04c5c06c5b Subject: [84attendees] Getting here by public transit X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 19:15:56 -0000 --f46d040838d3ae3f9a04c5c06c5b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 For those of you still to arrive (most of you, I'd expect): Getting to the conference hotel from the airport by public transit is easy. Outside of baggage, customs and immigration is a big waiting area. Outside that, follow signs for the Canada Line. It's a computer-controlled train (very safe and clean when we took it) that runs every several minutes from the airport to downtown Vancouver. One-way fare is $8.75CAD per adult. Get off at Vancouver City Centre station and walk three blocks northwest along Georgia St. to Burrard St., and turn right. (Howe St. will be the first one you cross if you're going in the right direction.) The hotel is one or two doors in. Total travel time including the walk was just about a half hour. There's one station closer (Burrard Station) but you have to overshoot by a stop, transfer, and come back one. Walking seemed easier to us. -MSK --f46d040838d3ae3f9a04c5c06c5b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those of you still to arrive (most of you, I'd expect):

Gett= ing to the conference hotel from the airport by public transit is easy.=A0 = Outside of baggage, customs and immigration is a big waiting area.=A0 Outsi= de that, follow signs for the Canada Line.=A0 It's a computer-controlle= d train (very safe and clean when we took it) that runs every several minut= es from the airport to downtown Vancouver.=A0 One-way fare is $8.75CAD per = adult.=A0 Get off at Vancouver City Centre station and walk three blocks no= rthwest along Georgia St. to Burrard St., and turn right.=A0 (Howe St. will= be the first one you cross if you're going in the right direction.)=A0= The hotel is one or two doors in.=A0 Total travel time including the walk = was just about a half hour.

There's one station closer (Burrard Station) but you have to oversh= oot by a stop, transfer, and come back one.=A0 Walking seemed easier to us.=

-MSK

--f46d040838d3ae3f9a04c5c06c5b-- From superuser@gmail.com Thu Jul 26 13:08:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDC721F8568 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:08:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.66 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.66 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.062, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n1Xm+qgJyIXj for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2439821F8562 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lagv3 with SMTP id v3so1670112lag.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:08:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1MFyZ4rFtVlIOVWR7RbI/ICk2ykJo47Rqn+SRLGlGR8=; b=MROPMvnVuvfFLv/+PDbyP+mBLw/D+Jg0/h9b433+b19VblEC20pCkmCRtG09UrV4mK gPN+7+gdM2TRGyektrNVxR5SXK0DZ6XRsL+Zm2NBhFZiuFXaCnqWeIeNUfJHrz1BmKZe 0v7BHO0LxjYF6Z4X7rNifThjU2rJIrW9HTKE/Nc4Kb78fqdzDkVULYUgxAbw3/ZhndIN WcQlqupMetMLYuYOyEEfVb/zKz79R5PdcYAkK6warpzt0gda3u87hCtoojBfrr8Trqnp CdGoQy4nxBrcZuZYctj/RU8li0ZyB+ED05gNKnBFruftHmx6qoh0CYZJABxzBG/fSFyB sIdA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.112.233 with SMTP id it9mr30892242lab.40.1343333324060; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.89.3 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:08:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <617094D13C614436B30F0FB679CA658B@BertLaptop> References: <617094D13C614436B30F0FB679CA658B@BertLaptop> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:08:44 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: 84attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040838d39877a704c5c129fd Subject: Re: [84attendees] Getting here by public transit X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 20:08:46 -0000 --f46d040838d39877a704c5c129fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Bert Wijnen wrote: > ** > Can the train ticket be bought on the train, or how does that work? > > > Tickets are sold from vending machines, which accept credit cards, at the train platform. It's a proof-of-payment system. -MSK --f46d040838d39877a704c5c129fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Bert Wijnen <bwijnen@bwijnen.net&g= t; wrote:
Can the train ticket be bought on the train, or how does that=20 work?



Tickets are so= ld from vending machines, which accept credit cards, at the train platform.= =A0 It's a proof-of-payment system.

-MSK

--f46d040838d39877a704c5c129fd-- From johnl@taugh.com Thu Jul 26 15:40:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15BF11E80BD for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:40:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.586 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.586 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rwZrTq858ZUS for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31DE11E80AE for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 62071 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2012 22:40:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=f276.5011c777.k1207; bh=s2qCaEG06P4r7zYs/3XeFk6Gmzfz9xE23yvtZhGKBSM=; b=iwyu5W8b+fh9aorn0Z+6u3DXPHhSOjnXyQqusTI4Sz4BMXtz+62r9pB1bUYSFZSepNv6ZXGoBMSE68N81HPJupYEiR2sFGUn/6rxP80ETtd3WS0L67UjhM95mnHTrAAN89rkBywKPVQvbhWBdWYJH3ey3xeRI6o/LymSotx948U= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=f276.5011c777.k1207; bh=s2qCaEG06P4r7zYs/3XeFk6Gmzfz9xE23yvtZhGKBSM=; b=Vf8UjLm1L60/ZbrLE0S0ygmQMwvxbLX2+nYxlqA/1Oi30pmW5RbjPYzEECxipBFPL0O9VO0CN12YTwZmEQba55iqeJ+ROY1LjGhw/4hp7gubOuHblAwJR1GQT5YVyWRtUZSDNzg444WG99cDiCNUapvXzWsLCx6fVO6hpT2jino= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 26 Jul 2012 22:40:33 -0000 Date: 26 Jul 2012 18:40:55 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: 84attendees@ietf.org User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [84attendees] Getting here by public transit X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:40:58 -0000 > Tickets are sold from vending machines, which accept credit cards, at the > train platform. It's a proof-of-payment system. Helpful tip for cheapskates (and those not wrangling small children): The fare from the machine on the platform is $8.75 during the week, $7.50 after 18:30 and on weekends. The former is a two zone ticket, the latter is a one zone ticket which is good throughout the system nights and weekends. Both include a $5 tourist tax. The Pharmasave on level 1 and the 7-11 on level 2 sell books of ten tickets, $21 for ten one zone tickets or $31.50 for ten two zone tickets. You can use a one zone ticket to travel two zones, i.e., into the city during the day, by buying a $1.25 add-fare from the machine. Be sure to stamp your ticket in one of the blue validator machines before boarding the train. The $5 tourist tax does *not* apply to tickets from ticket books, because what tourist would know to get a ticket book, eh? Tickets are transferrable, so if several people arrive at once, you can share a ticket book. Trips around downtown are all one zone fares, so if you plan to travel around during the week, buy a book of one-zone tickets and get an add-fare if needed for the trip from the airport. Remember to save a ticket for the trip back to the airport, and if needed buy an add-fare for that trip, too. If you return from the Vancouver City Centre station, there are supposed to be check-in kiosks so you can get your boarding pass before taking the train. R's, John From randy@qualcomm.com Thu Jul 26 17:31:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507B611E8086 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:31:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nUMMRbwzKyRI for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDD411E80B3 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:31:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1343349093; x=1374885093; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:date:to:from: subject:mime-version:content-type:x-random-sig-tag: x-originating-ip; bh=a1cg3YrSgsNNHGC1M7SN4W5MNY1prxl2JDWlgRlS7tE=; b=VbbotsOh5o9360miOZyrPwu66XWXkOhaJi4WZSuFpA/YQ45kImxaK8eE H2JnS42XpNnQMu9bZUXfN4ZnPUkpNB5S/DzhbHEfTMUz+KCyAmSDsgBqT oB1sSR0Q4xta1V3c4QTHeh2/i/cZU6MBGArAIM8afQ1boS+KHcK5SAiWQ w=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5400,1158,6784"; a="212659380" Received: from ironmsg04-l.qualcomm.com ([172.30.48.19]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 26 Jul 2012 17:31:30 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,662,1336374000"; d="scan'208";a="267480401" Received: from nasanexhc08.na.qualcomm.com ([172.30.39.7]) by Ironmsg04-L.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 26 Jul 2012 17:31:30 -0700 Received: from [99.111.97.136] (172.30.39.5) by qcmail1.qualcomm.com (172.30.39.7) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.309.2; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:31:29 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:19:37 -0700 To: <84attendees@ietf.org> From: Randall Gellens MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Originating-IP: [172.30.39.5] Subject: Re: [84attendees] Getting here by public transit X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 00:31:33 -0000 I found a link to the travel planner: http://tripplanning.translink.ca/hiwire Entering "YVR" for the starting point and the hotel address for the destination worked. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- We have, if you like, a funny definition of what is a secret here in this town [Budapest]: A secret is not something that nobody knows. A secret is something that everybody knows, but everybody knows that it's a secret. --Adam Nadasny, Hungarian poet From finlayson@live555.com Thu Jul 26 22:14:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B7B11E8073 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:14:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A7qATBWVmEmy for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.live555.com (ns.live555.com [4.79.217.242]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E5221F8577 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.live555.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns.live555.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6R5EZl2023953 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:14:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from finlayson@live555.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) From: Ross Finlayson In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:14:36 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <90F2F411-1BB9-4EB8-B414-BF3FF7B1AA3A@live555.com> References: To: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Subject: Re: [84attendees] any shutterbugs wanting to go out shooting ? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 05:14:37 -0000 A reminder, BTW, that there's a 'Flickr' group for "photos taken during = IETF meetings": http://www.flickr.com/groups/ietf Ross. From ole@cisco.com Fri Jul 27 08:04:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F0821F87BF for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:04:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -109.342 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-109.342 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.157, BAYES_40=-0.185, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eVfOjJEqTrWD for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2399C21F87B1 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:04:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=890; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1343401448; x=1344611048; h=date:from:reply-to:to:subject:message-id:mime-version; bh=9pIpAyibbV/MQvDtTz6axqOB+EGfd9eXCqJ3hyk+3S0=; b=T334mUhc+QKlqIRVoq3AdN1GaWiAVI4Rxhx1uxhTvaOuMxJIffLmS8EY sxQmwN3d1WF0M2gYLsKR2lPF4MJ8I9+t+r6FSNucdD+5v7VElQ+gTz40n MURNIlMY9Nt4Y9yXLPTtgnScnXk2DSP8CrrXEVjSJLJWkCRmxDSoZCtLk k=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvwEADetElCrRDoJ/2dsb2JhbABCA7k8gQeCOQECJYIQIodqDJhbgSiDSBCBTps2i2qDOQWDHAOITZJWhTKDGoEEYoJ/gT8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,667,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="53143713" Received: from mtv-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.58.9]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 27 Jul 2012 15:04:04 +0000 Received: from [10.27.1.132] (sjc-ole-8913.cisco.com [10.27.1.132]) by mtv-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6RF44d5029238 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:04:04 GMT Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:04:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: 84attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [84attendees] Notable Pipe organs in Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:04:09 -0000 Two mechanical-action instruments of note: 1. Kenneth Jones (Ireland) 3M/P at Christ Church Cathedral just across the street from the Hyatt: http://www.kennethjonesorgans.com/index.html http://www.cathedral.vancouver.bc.ca/worship-music-events/music/organ-specifications/ 2. Martin Pasi (Roy, WA) Opus 10, 2M/P at West Vancouver United Church: http://www.pasiorgans.com/instruments/opus10.html Sunday service is at 10am at this church, I am planning to attend and meet up with a friend who practices there afterwards, if you happen to find yourself in that neighborhood (other side of the harbor), stop by and hear this wonderful instrument. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo From geoff@proto6.com Fri Jul 27 16:16:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B9111E80F2 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:16:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.413 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.413 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.186, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eiz9jDK9ToQw for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.coslabs.com (mail.coslabs.com [199.233.92.34]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE4B11E8080 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [199.233.92.4] (unknown [199.233.92.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.coslabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2AF535F728 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:15:56 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <50132131.1070708@proto6.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:16:01 -0600 From: Geoff Mulligan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [84attendees] IPSO Interop "Open Room" - Wednesday 1-3 Plaza A X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 23:16:02 -0000 During the IETF the IPSO Alliance will be holding an Interoperability Test event with a number of our members (some on-site and some off-site). We will be testing interoperability between devices using 802.15.4, 6lowpan, RPL, COAP and the IPSO Application Data Framework. This is not formal conformance test, but instead functional interoperability testing - an Un-plug-fest. At the conclusion of the event we will be holding an "Open Room" [think open house, but only in one room] and invite any IETF attendees to stop by and see some of the devices and products implementing embedded IP on various micro-controllers and embedded platforms. The "Open Room" will be from 1 to 3 pm in Plaza A. Come stop by and see what IPSO is up doing "to make the embedded Net Work". Geoff Mulligan IPSO Chairman From avezza@amsl.com Fri Jul 27 16:34:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86F421F85D5 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:34:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LwAfBdq566+N for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC6521F85D4 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A21F12D125 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:34:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oBAbgtU37u6Y for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-2289.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-2289.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.34.137]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EE86C12D121 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:34:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Amy Vezza Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:34:16 -0700 Message-Id: <80A3637C-F6E0-488E-988A-6B2A05F346DB@amsl.com> To: attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [84attendees] Food Trucks in Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 23:34:18 -0000 Street food seems to be huge here in Vancouver. During the week, many = food trucks congregate in Robson Square for lunch time (between 11am and = 3pm or so). A lot of the food seems to be locally sourced, and the = square sets up tables and chairs for dining. =20 Robson Square is on Robson Street between Hornby and Howe. There is a convenient Food Truck App available for iPhone and iPad: = http://streetfoodapp.com/vancouver=20 There are also several sit-down restaurants in the same area. From bclaise@cisco.com Fri Jul 27 16:43:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CEF521F8685; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:43:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.398 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.398 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.200, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bMgmpn9tRTzD; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-sj.cisco.com (av-tac-sj.cisco.com [171.68.227.119]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9A721F8682; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:43:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from fire.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-sj.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6RNhk7E014746; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.21.64.247] (sjc-vpn3-247.cisco.com [10.21.64.247]) by fire.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6RNhkA2019072; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <501327B2.6040208@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:43:46 -0700 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: attendees <84attendees@ietf.org>, NETCONF , NETMOD Working Group Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000101040303070403030704" Subject: [84attendees] Network Configuration Management with NETCONF and YANG Tutorial this Sunday X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 23:43:49 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000101040303070403030704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, The "NETCONF and YANG" tutorial was added late to the agenda. So if you registered early, maybe you missed this tutorial announcement. Hence this email: 1300-1450 Network Configuration Management with NETCONF and YANG Tutorial - Regency E Regards, Benoit. --------------000101040303070403030704 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all,

The "NETCONF and YANG" tutorial was added late to the agenda.
So if you registered early, maybe you missed this tutorial announcement.
Hence this email:
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--------------000101040303070403030704-- From housley@vigilsec.com Fri Jul 27 16:49:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3207B21F8682 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:49:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kEgPbeLkLZTU for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95F221F85D2 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32799A4725 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 19:49:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rfTUGFfdwJ1Y for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 19:48:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d142-058-230-001.wireless.sfu.ca (d142-058-230-001.wireless.sfu.ca [142.58.230.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4579A471B for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 19:49:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 19:48:55 -0400 Message-Id: <52BCBBE0-13CC-454F-8FF1-0328B5429E70@vigilsec.com> To: 84attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [84attendees] Restaurant Review: Coast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 23:49:02 -0000 I went there last night. The food was quite good. However, the music = was on an automatic schedule, and at some magic time it became very = loud. We complained to the water and the manager, but the music was not = reduced to an acceptable level. I left with a sore throat from yelling = over the music. In addition, the service was very slow. The waiter and = manager blamed that on a computer crash in the kitchen. Despite the really good food, I will not return.= From mary.h.barnes@gmail.com Fri Jul 27 18:03:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2AF11E8110 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:03:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lIIy-nkB2YIZ for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qc0-f172.google.com (mail-qc0-f172.google.com [209.85.216.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784B911E8086 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qcac10 with SMTP id c10so2290111qca.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:03:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=pQEHYSGlZ7ifyw5sJcOIHpie95hhk8/2htMbriM4QKU=; b=n350nUeTG64QCS4rULz7b/8+gP2tsv8VPdNtcPIyZ+1ckcthD8cY490pvVYoSfi+4z PxaUAWxd8sNYJ6EUH6gvGuWMRHU+aOWh8YXKpZJ2Lvb7/0deFPTWgHG9j14pQrGQX1XO 5+c/ezoWE286twKXHI6RqBaCcBIP3+88ZYlUceNsXy8JQNEbVjj/RCSMLPfoS8FPLw1X 4/eMKd+A0p5OpYc9t8CI8gRTaMnS+1BjPr1AjZmZf6OMp2QFLrKUD3kG9pIMExpC2emg nXsLCR7nENX0fywRxed6lRDAtWo8UmBNGYwOfyTjmyaFLoTy0pn6DOVS1AIcXy71iUSk t/qA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.191.65 with SMTP id dl1mr11581402qab.72.1343437414818; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.84.8 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:03:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <80A3637C-F6E0-488E-988A-6B2A05F346DB@amsl.com> References: <80A3637C-F6E0-488E-988A-6B2A05F346DB@amsl.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:03:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mary Barnes To: Amy Vezza Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf300fafcde364c704c5d9651b Cc: attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Food Trucks in Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 01:03:36 -0000 --20cf300fafcde364c704c5d9651b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 One of the trucks I came across was an Volkswagen Van revamped as a food truck (on the West side of Robson). It was labeled "Gluten-Free". Although, I don't know that I would eat there given the long haired (un-ponytailed) cook. On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Amy Vezza wrote: > Street food seems to be huge here in Vancouver. During the week, many > food trucks congregate in Robson Square for lunch time (between 11am and > 3pm or so). A lot of the food seems to be locally sourced, and the square > sets up tables and chairs for dining. > > Robson Square is on Robson Street between Hornby and Howe. > > There is a convenient Food Truck App available for iPhone and iPad: > http://streetfoodapp.com/vancouver > > There are also several sit-down restaurants in the same area. > > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > --20cf300fafcde364c704c5d9651b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One of the trucks I came across was an Volkswagen Van revamped as a food tr= uck (on the West side of Robson). =A0 It was labeled "Gluten-Free"= ;. =A0 Although, I don't know that I would eat there given the long hai= red (un-ponytailed) cook.

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Amy Vezza <= span dir=3D"ltr"><a= vezza@amsl.com> wrote:
Street food seems to be huge here in Vancouver. =A0During the week, many fo= od trucks congregate in Robson Square for lunch time (between 11am and 3pm = or so). =A0A lot of the food seems to be locally sourced, and the square se= ts up tables and chairs for dining.

Robson Square is on Robson Street between Hornby and Howe.

There is a convenient Food Truck App available for iPhone and iPad: http://streetfood= app.com/vancouver

There are also several sit-down restaurants in the same area.


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--20cf300fafcde364c704c5d9651b-- From warren@kumari.net Fri Jul 27 18:11:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BB611E8110 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:11:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.408 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.408 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.191, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bQ-u95FDpaKj for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vimes.kumari.net (vimes.kumari.net [198.186.192.250]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624C211E80D1 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [5.5.8.29] (vpn.snozzages.com [204.194.22.7]) by vimes.kumari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5C3E61B41803; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 21:11:22 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Warren Kumari In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:11:16 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <80A3637C-F6E0-488E-988A-6B2A05F346DB@amsl.com> To: Mary Barnes X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: Amy Vezza , attendees <84attendees@ietf.org>, Warren Kumari Subject: Re: [84attendees] Food Trucks in Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 01:11:24 -0000 On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Mary Barnes wrote: > One of the trucks I came across was an Volkswagen Van revamped as a = food truck (on the West side of Robson). It was labeled "Gluten-Free". = =20 Um, aren't all VW's gluten-free?! W > Although, I don't know that I would eat there given the long haired = (un-ponytailed) cook. >=20 > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Amy Vezza wrote: > Street food seems to be huge here in Vancouver. During the week, many = food trucks congregate in Robson Square for lunch time (between 11am and = 3pm or so). A lot of the food seems to be locally sourced, and the = square sets up tables and chairs for dining. >=20 > Robson Square is on Robson Street between Hornby and Howe. >=20 > There is a convenient Food Truck App available for iPhone and iPad: = http://streetfoodapp.com/vancouver >=20 > There are also several sit-down restaurants in the same area. >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees --=20 Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick = to anger. =20 -- J.R.R. Tolkien From dromasca@avaya.com Fri Jul 27 18:49:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7DE11E80D1 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:49:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.73 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.73 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.545, BAYES_40=-0.185, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zYRKN-EOKSMN for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com (p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com [135.11.29.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6856021F855B for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:49:17 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAKxEE1CHCzI1/2dsb2JhbABFuWOBB4IiAQEDEh4KUQEVFQYMDAdXAQQbGodrC5kthCOdU48WgjxgA5tFihCCYQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,670,1336363200"; d="scan'208";a="20014118" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 27 Jul 2012 21:44:03 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 27 Jul 2012 21:29:39 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 03:49:13 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: art exhibition at the Vancouver Art Gallery Thread-Index: Ac1sYzBvSiMCmeGCTTK5uT4wS1Q9hQ== From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: [84attendees] art exhibition at the Vancouver Art Gallery X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 01:49:18 -0000 I knew from my previous trips the Vancouver Art Gallery as one of the remarkable art museums in North America. This morning I visited the exhibition gathering selected works from the Cone sisters collection at the Baltimore Museum of Art. The Cone sisters were some of the best art collectors in the first decades of the 20th century (comparable with the Stein brothers) and their collection is considered the best gathering of Matisse works world-wide, but other famous artists like Gaugain or Picasso are well represented. Strongly recommended to all IETF-ers who love art, the museum is one block from the Hyatt hotel. http://www.vanartgallery.bc.ca/the_exhibitions/exhibit_collecting_matiss e.html Regards, Dan From spencer@wonderhamster.org Sat Jul 28 00:03:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BD611E808C for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:03:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mg2qhPq9Fyv8 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFC721F8543 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.17.171.230] ([206.191.100.2]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LevDD-1TazIq36eF-00qgf6; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 03:03:09 -0400 Message-ID: <50138EA9.1090405@wonderhamster.org> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 02:03:05 -0500 From: Spencer Dawkins User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 84attendees@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:9ClW3UZ3pOe3+j06kQ4gZJiaOVWVQ3bVFe1S4Tqcv5p qsh6TlkFgGLAZBiyh8tPu/cYdlMCels22UeSc97PC1T2Uef1z7 zUbpHo2EBAYbBBjigDxpNbBgP6puNspocRE8Xylv6gM5Rly8GM zDYGVIAiDsdKQ2JSkmEmReQL4s1CTApJeu9ZeUc2jcf/pa5sW3 sZLx/2OlOgJgyCQF1TwB4Oz/qgGYuuJ3rIVUCqniy5BB2E9YH9 nu996py1GcPL5KizRjwrNtSDMhk+80JJZlnxydEMAV09U6i4mj J8QqeDhiHwPqgWIRbE79LA29ySSLDddf+HI4bFWlZzGBpZm930 DllyyxVrV3zGIBwP95g1Y4xSdptJG6/2+AIpPBDt+ Subject: Re: [84attendees] Getting here by public transit X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 07:03:11 -0000 On 7/26/2012 7:19 PM, Randall Gellens wrote: > I found a link to the travel planner: > http://tripplanning.translink.ca/hiwire > > Entering "YVR" for the starting point and the hotel address for the > destination worked. Google maps also worked on my iPhone/iPad. It gets you off at the City Center stop. I was a slug and went for the overshoot; that was a mistake, because the trains were backed up and the waterfront station was PACKED. If I'd gotten off at City Center, I would have never known that ... Spencer From dan@danwing.org Sat Jul 28 00:24:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9082E11E808C for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:24:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aWpv3UUjK1Hg for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rincewind.ksquared.net (rincewind.ksquared.net [216.129.106.12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A140A11E8073 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rincewind.ksquared.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FA2C974A; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rincewind.ksquared.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rincewind.ksquared.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5FOAbO72S1jt; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.126] (c-24-4-155-95.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.4.155.95]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dwing) by rincewind.ksquared.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 87D3DB7BDB; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT) References: <50101C78.5080006@danwing.org> In-Reply-To: <50101C78.5080006@danwing.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <0283EA94-4F08-4EBB-A5DF-C61050AE10C4@danwing.org> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Dan Wing Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:24:35 -0700 To: Randy Bush Cc: attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 07:24:42 -0000 A list from the guy who started coffeegeek.com and lives in Vancouver, https://plus.google.com/u/0/100909546646242432417/posts/apVUQbfRqPZ I haven't mapped them yet to see which are near-ish the venue.=20 -d On Jul 25, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Dan Wing wrote: > On 7/25/2012 8:59 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> revolver coffee turns out not to open until >> 08:00. this is a very serious problem for us early risers. >=20 > Sexy place. >=20 > > is there a nearby second best? >=20 > I haven't visited, but I see that http://www.jjbeancoffee.com/cafes has se= veral locations within a few blocks, > 740 Hamilton St., Weekdays: 7:30am-4:00pm, Closed on weekends & holidays > 146 W. Cordova St., Monday-Friday 7am-7pm, Weekends 8am-5pm > 1188 Alberni St., Monday-Friday 6am-10pm, Weekends 7am-10pm >=20 > My last few visits to Vancouver Caffe Artigiano didn't make great espresso= (but does have good milk drinks), but I will point out > http://www.espressomap.com lists three locations of Caffe Artigiano > nearby, closest is 763 Hornby St, 300m away. Opens at 6:30am. >=20 > -d >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees >=20 >=20 From randy@psg.com Sat Jul 28 07:15:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9CD21F85DD for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 07:15:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qti3Yo1nLpjS for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 07:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EB721F847D for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 07:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Sv7o6-000G8K-OO; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:15:50 +0000 Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 07:15:50 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Dan Wing In-Reply-To: <0283EA94-4F08-4EBB-A5DF-C61050AE10C4@danwing.org> References: <50101C78.5080006@danwing.org> <0283EA94-4F08-4EBB-A5DF-C61050AE10C4@danwing.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:15:52 -0000 > A list from the guy who started coffeegeek.com and lives in Vancouver, > https://plus.google.com/u/0/100909546646242432417/posts/apVUQbfRqPZ > > I haven't mapped them yet to see which are near-ish the venue. revolver, my fave and his, is the closest to the hyatt from hell. and it's a walk. across cambie is meat and bread, which i recommend for lunch randy From randy@psg.com Sat Jul 28 07:16:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C7421F85DD for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 07:16:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PKxC2m8Qbhw6 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 07:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7CE921F847D for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 07:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Sv7p5-000G8Y-H1; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:16:51 +0000 Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 07:16:51 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Dan Wing In-Reply-To: References: <50101C78.5080006@danwing.org> <0283EA94-4F08-4EBB-A5DF-C61050AE10C4@danwing.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:16:52 -0000 > revolver, my fave and his, is the closest to the hyatt from hell. and > it's a walk. but it is not open until eight o'clock. you would think they were serving wine, not coffee. sheesh! From hadi@mojatatu.com Sat Jul 28 08:24:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C27C21F8627 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:24:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.54 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.163, BAYES_50=0.001, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8jR9wGKiIkLL for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B54721F8543 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so6834951obb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:24:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=5vXaxD3p9gY5xb4+yZYB5t2so/6PxKCWTM6XCSAqJ5Q=; b=mNUS4OKPI28tENvlNCmfqK/u5P/35OnQnWtDmV9NKPVlbp9P4egAJ+VvdvcX5qarxu Y1JocOjvYfrmKItQ2tKQiRIg6cDzUYA/BBn3ktEECIXbTm9ja9UWCtKHwln2LDHNCNk6 UN5z+ZanPLtnw/5ZL6H3qGlSn50C3P0VzvshDlCWHVAiPe5RZd33c2z+wBLABLfRbvEj 6wE2KSeFh8ew/YwCWr3CkT0NR/19dyO8v3Qchd88WsPR6RgmIgETvtJN8ez9HvkJxg1E lEVUcVsK4NVKtpDOrSy5WrzdFsxlBuHi6rf36+R8TPOx/4ETzFpJRant3umQo07yRiDS uT+g== Received: by 10.182.110.37 with SMTP id hx5mr8846598obb.48.1343489076496; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:24:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.134.137 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:24:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamal Hadi Salim Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:24:16 -0400 Message-ID: To: 84attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQngMo4Y+ov1TSF1I9/fHGSDH2pWQ+CzeJgZuSIIYeRqoHeEXYj5xJ4Tc82gMXyUMRu+TmPu Subject: [84attendees] Sim cards X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:24:38 -0000 I did this little research for a friend of mine coming to the IETF. Hopefully someone here will find it useful. Everyone sells sim cards for $10. Worth mentioning that in .ca any mention of price does not include taxes. So add another 13% on top. I looked at the "best 3" providers mostly focusing on voice. All the stores are within short walking distance from both hotels. Fido charges an extra $10 for "activation fee" (all kinds of telco thievery go on here in Canada). Then you buy minutes. The best deal is $1/day if you just want unlimited voice or $2/day to include text. If you go for per-minute it is 30c/minute and 20c/txt. Your minutes count for both incoming and outgoing. I wasnt quiet sure about whether they charge extra for calling elsewhere in Canada or US. I believe they do. Same with text to the US. more details here: http://www.fido.ca/web/Fido.portal?_nfpb=3Dtrue&_windowLabel=3DprepaidLandi= ng_1_1&prepaidLanding_1_1_actionOverride=3D%2Fcom%2Ffido%2Fportlets%2Fpacka= ges%2FplanPhoneBuyFlow%2FgoToPrepaidRates#day Phone Frequencies: 850/900/1800/1900/3G800/3G1900Mhz Wind 20c/min anywhere in north america. unlimited incoming calls. 15=A2/text for north america. 25c/text to outside north america. wind also has data plans. Phone frequencies: AWS 2100/1700Mhz details here: http://www2.windmobile.ca/en/Pages/Pay-Your-Way-Prepaid-Cell-Phone-Service.= aspx Another interesting one, 7Eleven Sim Card. They have a special going on: $20/400 minutes (which is 20c/minute); additional minute 25c No extra charges for calling anywhere in Canada free incoming text. outgoing text 10c anywhere in north america. 35c elsewhere. They run on the rogers network. Phone frequencies same as Fido. Recommendation if you are doing voice: Fido per day/service. $10+$10+$1*num of days < $30 for the conference period. If you want to do data, go with Wind. If you are staying longer and will move outside the city centre go 7eleven In regards to which phones to use - look at your phone before buying. If you have a google nexus it should work on all these networks. cheers, jamal From paul@nohats.ca Sat Jul 28 08:45:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C50A21F85DA for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:45:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3I5QozTnfcAV for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bofh.nohats.ca (bofh.nohats.ca [76.10.157.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC4921F85CE for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix, from userid 500) id 50E87866EB; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445A18050D; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:45:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Wouters To: Spencer Dawkins In-Reply-To: <50138EA9.1090405@wonderhamster.org> Message-ID: References: <50138EA9.1090405@wonderhamster.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (LFD 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Getting here by public transit X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:45:30 -0000 On Sat, 28 Jul 2012, Spencer Dawkins wrote: >> http://tripplanning.translink.ca/hiwire >> >> Entering "YVR" for the starting point and the hotel address for the >> destination worked. > > Google maps also worked on my iPhone/iPad. It gets you off at the City Center > stop. > > I was a slug and went for the overshoot; that was a mistake, because the > trains were backed up and the waterfront station was PACKED. If I'd gotten > off at City Center, I would have never known that ... I got off at city centre too because I google told me but walking to the hotelm it seems there is one closer station: Burrand. Paul From dromasca@avaya.com Sat Jul 28 09:01:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1802921F8628 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:01:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.424 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.424 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.175, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NMk8HaG1+iai for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CF321F85F2 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:01:51 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAC0MFFDGmAcF/2dsb2JhbABFuV2BB4IiAQEDEh4KUQEVFQYMDAdXAQQbGodrC5gThCOceo8WgjxgA5tGihCCYQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,672,1336363200"; d="scan'208";a="359372771" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 28 Jul 2012 11:57:59 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 28 Jul 2012 11:57:35 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:01:47 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Transylvanian Cuisine in Vancouver Thread-Index: Ac1s2krUW5Lq9kcXQ/C0YdqQqmeuAQ== From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: [84attendees] Transylvanian Cuisine in Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:01:53 -0000 Transylvania is not only the alleged birthplace ok Count Dracula, but also a place of culinary delights, at the crossroads on Europe, mixing Hungarian, Romanian and even Turkish cuisine traditions. Vancouver has a couple of interesting places where you can try this - one is a restaurant a little bit far away http://www.transylvaniaflavour.com/main/index.htm, and the other a sweets and bakery shop located a few minutes from the meeting hotel http://transylvaniantraditions.com/. Do not miss the unique kurtos kalacs! Dan From johnl@taugh.com Sat Jul 28 09:36:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C41021F864F for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:36:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.587 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.587 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.013, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4u1r3tmccLjg for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E82921F864E for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 37710 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2012 16:36:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=934d.50141508.k1207; bh=d3SCRebENyMVraOaeDTW2WFRyX0BazkvUlOwsCRX3EA=; b=U+3wxsvTlxi9JCokBd06mXhDdT85FawrQJAtaHmtQm5k/A2dTFpRORChZoGnKTD+8ZLP9zaE+ny7kitq4I1H0k0f3aFDNaRX8Ttk6hR0XDMzm7eOn0W1pPWOOJ6YMvp1PT03P+TizJi2GBBLTdlDmSL0edMGgDCMpgrnzxaW9Jo= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=934d.50141508.k1207; bh=d3SCRebENyMVraOaeDTW2WFRyX0BazkvUlOwsCRX3EA=; b=hDledlbRKbhkeeJ/42+e/2uGGnhrEmNs0d9iLwT/9o1FahmBD9aOR+QWpQc6yrkqDVNchJ2VqtVUVS67dUkc48D03XD4KYNxqeb95iKann4Gys1QgRH6BYl93rUjzKwRZ5ntHOll56UnYMGLkJ+/o2/wHBvK55swvrJFWUQIEAQ= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 28 Jul 2012 16:36:01 -0000 Date: 28 Jul 2012 12:36:23 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: 84attendees@ietf.org User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [84attendees] Getting here by public transit X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:36:25 -0000 > walked from City Centre stop to the hotel. > it seems there is one closer station: Burrand. It's on a different line. To get there you have to go to Waterfront and change trains, by which time it's faster to wask from City Centre. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly From hadi@mojatatu.com Sat Jul 28 10:16:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A38F21F862B for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:16:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.724 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.724 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.253, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sCB+VJjuG3Kb for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7329B21F8624 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so6962565obb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:16:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=LuUFwEyN0GAojTge4ADwY4+F3lGKTnkPZQxZxzgBDH8=; b=LRX92F4GCpjIr9bffncFv6u95WradpiOe/igriKHR3mgayBl1Zi5aZXSqcsv/1oTJd VEcXfH9DL7Ji6V4whB3tPmJ0dcEsiio8OwNrdB3mXKu1BFQuC2mQVe7FLhGck1hITkhq MhzvwuQ3Mh3S0O4KTUIPadm3Fwe1q89eO5DW/1SrqhTVI+aVE382an6V3AeYyg+dG+Pi vClFyNCJEoiBJeNwL0k73szvznAjpluuoNdQW0pUIWZnarbEKCtYvmiGq4vkNVdbsECo Y96S1Pz6KEJRANvULsIOophsQclV3zLqb5I3WNWH0MOfkJccdpA+G09eeysvIFxX6myM Et1w== Received: by 10.60.172.202 with SMTP id be10mr9151200oec.53.1343495798942; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:16:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.134.137 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:16:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jamal Hadi Salim Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:16:18 -0400 Message-ID: To: "John R. Levine" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnD+lJ4zSR9jETekz5+2Ldjlss+1H/1BFQIUYuYNuJsKIfkumYt+P71b4LFDZYowz5R3/VF Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Sim cards X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:16:40 -0000 Yep, thanks for catching that. cheers, jamal On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 12:35 PM, John R. Levine wrote: >> Fido Phone Frequencies: 850/900/1800/1900/3G800/3G1900Mhz > > > For the benefit of visitors from outside of North America, there is no > mobile service here on 900 or 1800 MHz. You need a phone that runs on > 800/850 (the same band) or 1900. > > Regards, > John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for > Dummies", > Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly From asa.hardcastle@gmail.com Sat Jul 28 10:23:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FAB21F862B for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:23:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8v-29kG9BoDE for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3F121F85D0 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pbcwy7 with SMTP id wy7so7085482pbc.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:23:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=5GZhfMGqJUWqvjcecrzzwmphObxqbA8KxSDIAnrsjQc=; b=o8pMQ2RQocrrcXIMNaCWVbUcK8vCSaKDSm9SE6l8ZiHbBeTOdKulgA6KJL2dpD5U8f jaGC8AjTA2mQvmCunPB1wSZaDTbmMjg2lMQSDuefZ/otZ58jdbrQC37vNA4FSALITEIT rCpUpk4rezS2Zjftiu/hIVJATD8QTnc4acERnr+YAd1QDKQxgDPjuRfY2D0E9Gd5RA12 Gj5k8AOb+qAqwPV8fB8sRUcefNshK+9Kkz6XEVULkUbHnPg0bbGC4RJU+rHYiruqE7ov 8dwp/ciTZC6nW2sqlpHYBK/GJ+CO3IBTnbWnxbxBCSfRghSpYEb8l+xP9UMv2R7IQ9Dn 2/gQ== Received: by 10.68.221.38 with SMTP id qb6mr22446721pbc.144.1343496196833; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.65] (d64-180-65-197.bchsia.telus.net. [64.180.65.197]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id rg10sm4284370pbc.54.2012.07.28.10.23.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Asa Hardcastle In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:23:16 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <50101C78.5080006@danwing.org> <0283EA94-4F08-4EBB-A5DF-C61050AE10C4@danwing.org> To: Randy Bush X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: Dan Wing , attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:23:17 -0000 Revolver is closed today... Asa On Jul 28, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> revolver, my fave and his, is the closest to the hyatt from hell. and >> it's a walk. > > but it is not open until eight o'clock. you would think they were > serving wine, not coffee. sheesh! > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From even.roni@gmail.com Sat Jul 28 10:31:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B081C21F8647 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:31:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BcCn9uavUkTL for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBEB121F862B for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pbcwy7 with SMTP id wy7so7094131pbc.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:31:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=EZB0EJi81Ci8KF9s/Hc9uGHNMrTY1CYWRoDfv06K8E8=; b=lQx6d4qHPQIDQxJHYNHnn5yrANtgQGHBdCCjILznikP2CJykWIda0uFYCABQwAudn/ 62UAyBeLxgbFTktbYTq4yMW82UOcouK2KsRN2w+iC4OJzKvgTXxfymbmo2KbfDc2eDnM 6OumxTZrq56LFCc+PnnTr2YhUG2sUxqmd19SfDGWz9arl4qSpzjczkO4UhT2UM04uPzx JUsHjgr0vvGkDr57nUacXPDsD7UdVKUB26S52x3uXH3EpOlIUPPHEk9RweKozhzgSLBG gkbE87E7cUemAJnJsv/0j1q9gwlv76Dq50kfIaf7mrZDXNLZy0zSbtqPFoO8biJ9NhHO poOw== Received: by 10.68.217.40 with SMTP id ov8mr22449964pbc.131.1343496708593; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.116.245] ([216.123.155.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pf8sm4297966pbc.44.2012.07.28.10.31.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:31:47 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) From: Roni Even Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:31:47 -0700 To: Jamal Hadi Salim Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Sim cards X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:31:49 -0000 Fido recommended using chat-r claimed they are cheaper starting 25$ unlimite= d talk They are in Vancouver center mall 650w Georgia st, lower mall entrance under= scotia bank tower Sent from my iPad On 28 =D7=91=D7=99=D7=95=D7=9C 2012, at 08:24, Jamal Hadi Salim wrote: > I did this little research for a friend of mine coming to the IETF. > Hopefully someone here will find it useful. >=20 > Everyone sells sim cards for $10. > Worth mentioning that in .ca any mention of price does not include taxes. > So add another 13% on top. I looked at the "best 3" providers mostly > focusing on voice. > All the stores are within short walking distance from both hotels. >=20 > Fido charges an extra $10 for "activation fee" (all kinds of telco thiever= y > go on here in Canada). Then you buy minutes. The best deal is $1/day > if you just want unlimited voice or $2/day to include text. > If you go for per-minute it is 30c/minute and 20c/txt. > Your minutes count for both incoming and outgoing. > I wasnt quiet sure about whether they charge extra for calling > elsewhere in Canada or US. I believe they do. Same with text to the US. > more details here: > http://www.fido.ca/web/Fido.portal?_nfpb=3Dtrue&_windowLabel=3DprepaidLand= ing_1_1&prepaidLanding_1_1_actionOverride=3D%2Fcom%2Ffido%2Fportlets%2Fpacka= ges%2FplanPhoneBuyFlow%2FgoToPrepaidRates#day >=20 > Phone Frequencies: 850/900/1800/1900/3G800/3G1900Mhz >=20 > Wind > 20c/min anywhere in north america. unlimited incoming calls. > 15=C2=A2/text for north america. 25c/text to outside north america. > wind also has data plans. > Phone frequencies: AWS 2100/1700Mhz >=20 > details here: > http://www2.windmobile.ca/en/Pages/Pay-Your-Way-Prepaid-Cell-Phone-Service= .aspx >=20 > Another interesting one, 7Eleven Sim Card. > They have a special going on: > $20/400 minutes (which is 20c/minute); additional minute 25c > No extra charges for calling anywhere in Canada > free incoming text. > outgoing text 10c anywhere in north america. 35c elsewhere. > They run on the rogers network. > Phone frequencies same as Fido. >=20 > Recommendation if you are doing voice: Fido per day/service. > $10+$10+$1*num of days < $30 for the conference period. > If you want to do data, go with Wind. > If you are staying longer and will move outside the city centre go 7eleven= >=20 > In regards to which phones to use - look at your phone before buying. > If you have a google nexus it should work on all these networks. >=20 > cheers, > jamal > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From hadi@mojatatu.com Sat Jul 28 10:40:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7826F21F84E1 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:40:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.747 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.747 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.230, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vYSSKo-AYA8v for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A4121F84D9 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so6991017obb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:40:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Q3wiiKzM46vGX58WwMqVtqiwQD1P505a4eGrcbqkghY=; b=dj0nvFIU7WKxt3kIYxY2oyy0oLuQuzovnoFhbKw7VdMdXzEghGVlHUEapsneXddDQn 03DQYeHC15wJXMT48GsXu0m1QuVBcLwFN4C55ujAHWlJJ4gBFQSePaFRk56i3hYntgVf Mx5pbh0c0QSL7FBLoxpgco/PfWJmbGHKJ4SdGq8RGRLlTF0ToljAtl9NhmJMAES35qUC HW/IWWwv+6MU9z1VYD/dKL2xUVAiGUDhGhQsSTbKYvFbJ3s+vf11c+cjb4JFzC6o1E8L mVZMLGjf5jiXF6UvmYIlnht1QJG9MU1ENWFlHb57S8GSDjXi2BuJBaEJC7Um72rEIdcH FinQ== Received: by 10.60.20.233 with SMTP id q9mr6294931oee.57.1343497214426; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:40:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.134.137 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:39:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jamal Hadi Salim Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:39:54 -0400 Message-ID: To: Roni Even Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmqObmhGLlC6Di/xNhWACOHdtpg7C51Bg1rd4KH4tlg+gkUKkuIKDCeC2tVPcOp45LcoI+e Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Sim cards X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:40:15 -0000 Fido $1/day is unlimited voice as well. Didnt think chatr was good because the sim card alone was $20. Add that to $25 and you are in the $45 range. Did they tell you different? cheers, jamal On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Roni Even wrote: > Fido recommended using chat-r claimed they are cheaper starting 25$ unlimited talk > They are in Vancouver center mall 650w Georgia st, lower mall entrance under scotia bank tower > From randy@psg.com Sat Jul 28 10:59:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EAF21F85D1 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:59:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5RnPI23kk7Mr for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F57E21F85D0 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SvBIp-000GUV-Kc; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:59:47 +0000 Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:59:47 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Asa Hardcastle In-Reply-To: References: <50101C78.5080006@danwing.org> <0283EA94-4F08-4EBB-A5DF-C61050AE10C4@danwing.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Dan Wing , attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:59:49 -0000 > Revolver is closed today... i know. we went to jj bean. close. tolerable. but ... randy From jari.arkko@ericsson.com Sat Jul 28 11:13:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB00521F8517 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:13:35 +0200 Received: from nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se [131.160.33.3]) by mail.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8345E2478; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:13:35 +0300 (EEST) Received: from nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2F653372; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:13:36 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CEC5525FB; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:13:34 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <50142BCD.4000303@ericsson.com> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:13:33 -0700 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jamal Hadi Salim References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrLLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvre4FbZEAg38tLBZz7l9gsZhw8DCb xe2te9gcmD12zrrL7rFkyU8mj2231rIGMEdx2aSk5mSWpRbp2yVwZUzddYexoKBix/e9jA2M YV2MnBwSAiYSXZ0tLBC2mMSFe+vZuhi5OIQETjFK3Nt0hRHC2cAosf3bdCYIZzejxN7WZqjM OkaJY/t3QvXMZ5S4sf0CG8gwXgFtie4nbWCDWQRUJVofL2cHsdkEtCQ2Ll8AViMqECKx5tsU Roh6QYmTM5+A1YsIaEh0t64Dq2cWCJW48+UpWL2wgIrEv1tHoDYfY5S4v3AvWDOnQKBE6+qH jBANthIX5lxngbDlJba/ncMM8Z2axNVzm8BsIaBBt/6eZZvAKDoLye5ZSNpnIWlfwMi8ilE4 NzEzJ73cXC+1KDO5uDg/T684dRMjMEoObvltsINx032xQ4zSHCxK4rx6qvv9hQTSE0tSs1NT C1KL4otKc1KLDzEycXBKNTAaZlp7MtvlFiUmqH/af2/PxuM8s49pcgfxuBXPOJQUZGDGmJNa uqyQ89/m48fddiZ1953MifjKIn6li7Ny8hrNg2eqXa3TTt+7xux16kNn0ayFYvahbS3c9Rai 3oKXQ/4ZOHmbq76OC7h35VjW0/JDxz1urNmj8UD8Uabr5M19Gj5WtUadh5RYijMSDbWYi4oT AZnEup5gAgAA Cc: Roni Even , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Sim cards X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:13:37 -0000 Thanks for the research! What's the address where I can go buy those Data-capable Wind SIM-cards? Jari From kivinen@iki.fi Sat Jul 28 13:01:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8248021F861B for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:01:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_34=0.6, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qO+8615jVpG5 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.kivinen.iki.fi (fireball.kivinen.iki.fi [IPv6:2001:1bc8:100d::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E6621F85C5 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fireball.kivinen.iki.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.kivinen.iki.fi (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6SK0vdT001088 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:00:57 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from kivinen@localhost) by fireball.kivinen.iki.fi (8.14.5/8.12.11) id q6SK0sUw020319; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:00:54 +0300 (EEST) X-Authentication-Warning: fireball.kivinen.iki.fi: kivinen set sender to kivinen@iki.fi using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20500.17654.736434.375802@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:00:54 +0300 From: Tero Kivinen To: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.4.1 X-Edit-Time: 7 min X-Total-Time: 7 min Subject: [84attendees] RFC and I-D ebooks available in http://tools.ietf.org/ebook/ X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:01:07 -0000 The .mobi (kindle) and .epub files containing the RFCs and Internet-Drafts are available in the http://tools.ietf.org/ebook/ directory. There are following files: * rfc.mobi - All RFCs in single .mobi (kindle) file * rfc.epub - All RFCs in single .epub file * area.*.* - I-Ds, related I-Ds, WG RFCs for all WGs in area * i-d.*.* - I-Ds, related I-Ds, WG RFCs for a WG Those files are automatically generated every weekend. I personally copy rfc.mobi and all area.*.mobi on my kindle before I leave for IETF, so I can read drafts while traveling. -- kivinen@iki.fi From richard.barnes@gmail.com Sat Jul 28 13:13:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C031F21F865A for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:13:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aa0vimYM1gT5 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F1E21F8655 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lbbgo11 with SMTP id go11so2969056lbb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:13:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wYxrj1PYkYKpjZZl3h2yeuPLI07LVQAHG/Xy+OgyT/c=; b=UsMao0gnAJeXLgqYD06cl2uvibjqKj8wGbMoSrNrXBi0i1Az+0X3k4bYDcy7k9VcLD GSN8UV8XhP6SGAqfVo85ZVUpp3gv9sgJIvsI5+pGPrl+6PYwhod64c+GdGHjo3Mvxtd+ 78egGZ31XXSZEeoUZsNBrO/cFxHhyeegr/zKXHE88/bL0BWY2ViCIyhmUjH03HJksOnz x6ytdtzfG85xW/PklrvhMb3QJtrwJ85QeV2mGqW66usrIOdntW2l6bY2ztgZguF1DJkW bJMp6JunlWG2UeaVePx4vpI+FGGtn/Lf4Z+HHUtMkWePHXiK1tbHSLDhOfRygJK8owOC forA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.148.195 with SMTP id tu3mr6752945lab.16.1343506435663; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.6.229 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:13:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <80A3637C-F6E0-488E-988A-6B2A05F346DB@amsl.com> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:13:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: Richard Barnes To: Warren Kumari Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Amy Vezza , attendees <84attendees@ietf.org>, Mary Barnes Subject: Re: [84attendees] Food Trucks in Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:13:57 -0000 Apparently not: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > > On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Mary Barnes wrote: > >> One of the trucks I came across was an Volkswagen Van revamped as a food= truck (on the West side of Robson). It was labeled "Gluten-Free". > > Um, aren't all VW's gluten-free?! > > W > > >> Although, I don't know that I would eat there given the long haired (un-= ponytailed) cook. >> >> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Amy Vezza wrote: >> Street food seems to be huge here in Vancouver. During the week, many f= ood trucks congregate in Robson Square for lunch time (between 11am and 3pm= or so). A lot of the food seems to be locally sourced, and the square set= s up tables and chairs for dining. >> >> Robson Square is on Robson Street between Hornby and Howe. >> >> There is a convenient Food Truck App available for iPhone and iPad: http= ://streetfoodapp.com/vancouver >> >> There are also several sit-down restaurants in the same area. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 84attendees mailing list >> 84attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 84attendees mailing list >> 84attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > > -- > Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to= anger. > -- J.R.R. Tolkien > > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From richard.barnes@gmail.com Sat Jul 28 13:15:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74DA021F84DC for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:15:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tQhCa429cF9M for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AD921F845E for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lbbgo11 with SMTP id go11so2969354lbb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:15:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=EOGQmSMoTEb549fJ3DdRXVFugjAXfn7XwcQhuqleLpM=; b=C+wPV7UagVDZI9ffJMxnjr9wwv53Kh6cPg3uSb/RtAoyvUfnS6yr5ljVFm4SK8HEZQ Vr5jzAyLVeUIpHIZNnNXut0llWhvfQc0gS5RUaAJknGhVtcrB/RWEAkyHwXm6/Jk4Cwy IplRc1k6LzxHIBGMlIyXKTK5E6f+KzeaF85/ArxgXWecjohwApFRIj/OSJMt/vfp3Lce P14I052E//1sN+fg0nP8+XnM4Z8wiiRmlALbSAG1ZePmaIIdN357E8cQSZoKevZmRkO8 9tvhvNO03HY6TM3bUvCQlx94MWY0Ip+eyT+fk5wPmNDB7OtgauSnS3TwC8DWUiQ1Qskw Talw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.42.228 with SMTP id r4mr3148635lbl.4.1343506513286; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.6.229 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:15:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:15:13 -0700 Message-ID: From: Richard Barnes To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] art exhibition at the Vancouver Art Gallery X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:15:15 -0000 There's also a pop-up exhibition going on today on the plaza in front of the gallery, on the Georgia street side. On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > I knew from my previous trips the Vancouver Art Gallery as one of the > remarkable art museums in North America. This morning I visited the > exhibition gathering selected works from the Cone sisters collection at > the Baltimore Museum of Art. The Cone sisters were some of the best art > collectors in the first decades of the 20th century (comparable with the > Stein brothers) and their collection is considered the best gathering of > Matisse works world-wide, but other famous artists like Gaugain or > Picasso are well represented. Strongly recommended to all IETF-ers who > love art, the museum is one block from the Hyatt hotel. > http://www.vanartgallery.bc.ca/the_exhibitions/exhibit_collecting_matiss > e.html > > Regards, > > Dan > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From harald@alvestrand.no Sat Jul 28 13:20:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB7821F85C5 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:20:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cgVpuKLQ0H1z for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no (eikenes.alvestrand.no [158.38.152.233]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E9721F85AC for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952C339E115; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 22:20:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at eikenes.alvestrand.no Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hK+JO4kWx-mA; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 22:20:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.129.36.66] (unknown [130.129.36.66]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 647AF39E062; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 22:20:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <50144992.3040505@alvestrand.no> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:20:34 -0700 From: Harald Alvestrand User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jari Arkko References: <50142BCD.4000303@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <50142BCD.4000303@ericsson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Roni Even , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Jamal Hadi Salim Subject: Re: [84attendees] Sim cards X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:20:43 -0000 On 07/28/2012 11:13 AM, Jari Arkko wrote: > Thanks for the research! > > What's the address where I can go buy those Data-capable Wind SIM-cards? 779 Thurlow Street. Note that the pay-as-you-go card's $5 "social data" plan is 50 Mbytes a month, and can't be increased. It will also incur data roaming charges if you go outside of Vancouver and have roaming turned on. > > Jari > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From kireeti@juniper.net Sat Jul 28 13:36:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D825F21F8666 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:36:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.524 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id le8K7GSM88oo for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og102.obsmtp.com (exprod7og102.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.157]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EC821F8604 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB02-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob102.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUBRNYncxXXVZZwpC7fSb0/hUHyZusAcW@postini.com; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:36:52 PDT Received: from EMBX01-HQ.jnpr.net ([fe80::c821:7c81:f21f:8bc7]) by P-EMHUB02-HQ.jnpr.net ([fe80::88f9:77fd:dfc:4d51%11]) with mapi; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:36:46 -0700 From: Kireeti Kompella To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:36:47 -0700 Thread-Topic: [84attendees] art exhibition at the Vancouver Art Gallery Thread-Index: Ac1tALR18xbzy7KoQlODSDlS5BsVeQ== Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] art exhibition at the Vancouver Art Gallery X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:36:53 -0000 The "through a glass, darkly" exhibition at VanArt reminds us: "Imperfect memory and biased desire are often blamed for our inability to a= dequately represent past experiences and events. Our vision may be cloude= d by ulterior motives, obscured by desire, or blocked by fear and anxiety." Not a bad way to prepare for an IETF! On Jul 27, 2012, at 18:49, "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" wrot= e: > I knew from my previous trips the Vancouver Art Gallery as one of the > remarkable art museums in North America. This morning I visited the > exhibition gathering selected works from the Cone sisters collection at > the Baltimore Museum of Art. The Cone sisters were some of the best art > collectors in the first decades of the 20th century (comparable with the > Stein brothers) and their collection is considered the best gathering of > Matisse works world-wide, but other famous artists like Gaugain or > Picasso are well represented. Strongly recommended to all IETF-ers who > love art, the museum is one block from the Hyatt hotel. > http://www.vanartgallery.bc.ca/the_exhibitions/exhibit_collecting_matiss > e.html >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Dan >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From warren@kumari.net Sat Jul 28 13:45:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B261A21F8673 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:45:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vIdjyEQeY4O2 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vimes.kumari.net (vimes.kumari.net [198.186.192.250]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2591421F862B for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.129.0.184] (unknown [130.129.0.184]) by vimes.kumari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E97441B401ED; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:45:49 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Warren Kumari In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:45:46 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <80A3637C-F6E0-488E-988A-6B2A05F346DB@amsl.com> To: Richard Barnes X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: Amy Vezza , Mary Barnes , attendees <84attendees@ietf.org>, Warren Kumari Subject: Re: [84attendees] Food Trucks in Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:45:51 -0000 On Jul 28, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Richard Barnes wrote: > Apparently not: > >=20 Wharrrhhh=85 want=85.! W > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Warren Kumari = wrote: >>=20 >> On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Mary Barnes wrote: >>=20 >>> One of the trucks I came across was an Volkswagen Van revamped as a = food truck (on the West side of Robson). It was labeled "Gluten-Free". >>=20 >> Um, aren't all VW's gluten-free?! >>=20 >> W >>=20 >>=20 >>> Although, I don't know that I would eat there given the long haired = (un-ponytailed) cook. >>>=20 >>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Amy Vezza wrote: >>> Street food seems to be huge here in Vancouver. During the week, = many food trucks congregate in Robson Square for lunch time (between = 11am and 3pm or so). A lot of the food seems to be locally sourced, and = the square sets up tables and chairs for dining. >>>=20 >>> Robson Square is on Robson Street between Hornby and Howe. >>>=20 >>> There is a convenient Food Truck App available for iPhone and iPad: = http://streetfoodapp.com/vancouver >>>=20 >>> There are also several sit-down restaurants in the same area. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 84attendees mailing list >>> 84attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 84attendees mailing list >>> 84attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees >>=20 >> -- >> Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and = quick to anger. >> -- J.R.R. Tolkien >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> 84attendees mailing list >> 84attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees >=20 -- "When it comes to glittering objects, wizards have all the taste and = self-control of a deranged magpie." -- Terry Pratchett From hadi@mojatatu.com Sat Jul 28 13:56:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD64F21F855F for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:56:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.766 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.766 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.211, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1M4VdBuxCWiZ for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314A821F8550 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so7226528obb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:56:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=B+vnVmvTehZoR3Frm02icblaXOVJWkeHioTciFliOl0=; b=O57MTJ3Lq/Fj3FDI4jOinqDWBbIeqZf5Awpq5Bt/X8dXzA+G2In1OGjKtv6uQWuleN F6RMbDn4PRvv1fVl1rpCFw2h9tvElXQGkXUU7O0EZ047VxeAybZPGGJcBZAGfINW2WJf bNDfZoXoi3eync7UaXgPaQUnzGVeWtbfr7up1nB+Ylidb5UFXN+ixFL1zyXVw0kr2Kyh 8GngPqOtwj1Ji1PIEL1qG6AXymeR3BDZSrbOMox6TSy7GwhnJbVW7ovAGqC5lWG+qlUV tRbMhCdUSDZV7p/OIlY6INufRfiRFf4/nz7YsDZ9BblQIAjKPBTaJoJFohZLGKEaw+kf dyrg== Received: by 10.60.2.131 with SMTP id 3mr9769443oeu.59.1343509015595; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:56:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.134.137 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:56:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jamal Hadi Salim Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:56:35 -0400 Message-ID: To: Roni Even , Haleplidis Evangelos Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlviXNLRmyn8KP9une51Vrf95XGmCIsvLsmwU3oNZ1ApiKb7kML7jcVipLm6DiNIsGgP22F Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Sim cards X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:56:56 -0000 Small update: Fido requires that you buy a minimum $20 refill for the $1 or $2/day unlimited plan. So that brings up the cost to about $40. Wind has raised their SIM price to $25. So unless you want data they are expensive. So at this point I am suggesting for voice/text to get the 7eleven Sim card at $30. There is a 7eleven right beside the Sheraton South tower. cheers, jamal On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Jamal Hadi Salim wrote: > Fido $1/day is unlimited voice as well. > Didnt think chatr was good because the sim card alone was $20. > Add that to $25 and you are in the $45 range. > Did they tell you different? > > cheers, > jamal > > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Roni Even wrote: >> Fido recommended using chat-r claimed they are cheaper starting 25$ unlimited talk >> They are in Vancouver center mall 650w Georgia st, lower mall entrance under scotia bank tower >> From jrmii@isc.org Sat Jul 28 14:00:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4045E21F84CE for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:00:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AA3p6EUubIDS for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ams1.isc.org (mx.ams1.isc.org [IPv6:2001:500:60::65]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86CC21F84C5 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bikeshed.isc.org (bikeshed.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:d::19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.isc.org", Issuer "RapidSSL CA" (not verified)) by mx.ams1.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E8445F98EC for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:00:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrmii@isc.org) Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8::8c31:57e5:2591:b4dc] (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8::8c31:57e5:2591:b4dc]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by bikeshed.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 79550216C36 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrmii@isc.org) From: Jim Martin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:00:25 -0700 To: 84attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Subject: [84attendees] IETF 84 Hyatt Guest Room Network Update X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:00:29 -0000 Welcome to Vancouver!=20 For those staying in the Grand Hyatt Vancouver, the NOC team = wanted to let you know that the entirety of the hotel network has just = been cut over to the IETF network. That is, both wired and wireless in = the guest rooms and in the lobby/bar/restaurant area all connect back to = the IETF net, use our IPv4 and IPv6 addressing and goes out through our = 1G links to the Internet (Thanks Telus!). The one exception is the = Starbucks wireless which is unchanged. [Note: The public areas are still = being converted, so give us a few minutes before reporting problems] Please note however, that the original SSIDs are still in place. = So in your guestroom, the "Hyatt_Vancouver" SSID is what you should use. = If you're currently connected and seeing problems, please re-DHCP = (plug/unplug your cable, turn on/off your wifi, or just reboot) to get a = new address.=20 If you have any problems, please let us know! Network details = and the trouble ticketing system are at http://tickets.meeting.ietf.org = or you can just email to tickets@meeting.ietf.org. Have a good meeting! - Jim & the NOC team= From mellon@fugue.com Sat Jul 28 14:06:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328BF21F8692 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:06:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2ym-GiVlo9cd for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5310421F8691 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.23] (unknown [64.215.212.51]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 981D123814DD; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ted Lemon In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:06:21 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Jamal Hadi Salim X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: Roni Even , Haleplidis Evangelos , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Sim cards X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:06:25 -0000 Any particularly reason why you didn't get a Rogers SIM card? The = prices you're describing seem higher than I remember paying for mine = last time I was in Montreal. From hadi@mojatatu.com Sat Jul 28 14:26:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E8721F8655 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:26:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.782 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.782 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.195, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tM8qtFCsg-bu for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2AE21F862B for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so7261102obb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:26:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=lSAnEFCPZ1OHwHyzvT7yxYX/f+pzKq6neVpx1faCKRA=; b=cC9yiUYbi8HLOVHmOPpe6bNr7O9JWPaCnWg0SGzwegDi27s91h7FMm+k5+OP6Hh+5P i64xEDY2peraQ9mKtp5HIhnIPVgid3v6rm6tEGXF6UqZhsQVEJQw0KdeX1avY+q/TNte i6zGQtSQHo57Xqkb6u6pkp23ph2UEwZgc7JhfTb20j5Os+n9C0Do1bTcHEQoZePN0q2N DWoeSwzl2O3uJbcW9hDSI/Q6jr/kKLdma2+Ze0IREj8np5BsZXjjdgm1kDZaQ6kpgUAW O2OV5fGQjVZlhjS0UvV6fmJHi/8oq5E3d6iLqz1/NxQInqUVT6v0H646lq2QwKdnqVXB 1UnQ== Received: by 10.182.108.71 with SMTP id hi7mr10018893obb.21.1343510765716; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:26:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.134.137 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:25:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jamal Hadi Salim Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:25:44 -0400 Message-ID: To: Ted Lemon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlTL1ZjEpK6pUx4+ddvnA3w18nkZ+idFrm0qrch53BqrDg0RU+BVxBILQf48Qqlvp9RXOBR Cc: Roni Even , Haleplidis Evangelos , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Sim cards X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:26:06 -0000 I didnt look at Rogers because they are typically expensive. I'll take a look and report back. The other one I didnt look at is Virgin (MVNO off Bell). cheers, jamal On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: > Any particularly reason why you didn't get a Rogers SIM card? The prices you're describing seem higher than I remember paying for mine last time I was in Montreal. > From scott.brim@gmail.com Sat Jul 28 14:50:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5452021F84E2 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:50:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BP-5Cr-xKnmq for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BA521F84BD for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pbcwy7 with SMTP id wy7so7331607pbc.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:50:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Q5353DpwM6gppIjdVvcALmSRVi7GVkpBP+TjLtpjiQk=; b=hN9rnlmr6f1/hgRIxhosWed59YeAHHo3rTV70e1XdaDb5Ex30Dnlgy0rULBVnCaDGl hYnfZmLPb+++EH5yvhOIT9IF8VOF3wf4M+9VY53GzrqievwQPRhS56jBVZhMGXyekHgE 3fQljVsrFu/6+LJoQyspA9RwVftwbkc52W0sgsilhwIytEtgFjQJO1pfnFVbb/LYYmFv w18UQm5c1SYSTn+ouhsPZqvRJfaQCxykKzxsH/euLy2NQPz7BhgTus2b+Y7rh93tfUqV uNuKRrvziiIkvPdCvWC7MTLwWtFWqL7+idh+VVIVDgLyHc5sTrZprZ+sWFpzSlVVpspF iivA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.85.135 with SMTP id h7mr14329642paz.75.1343512216585; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.220.132 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.220.132 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:50:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:50:16 -0400 Message-ID: From: Scott Brim To: Jim Martin Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d042de4696bc41504c5ead063 Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] IETF 84 Hyatt Guest Room Network Update X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:50:17 -0000 --f46d042de4696bc41504c5ead063 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 --f46d042de4696bc41504c5ead063 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

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--f46d042de4696bc41504c5ead063-- From Dorothy.Gellert@InterDigital.com Sat Jul 28 14:51:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AB321F84F5 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:51:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iOfGzYJdsEUZ for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from idcout.InterDigital.com (smtp-out1.interdigital.com [64.208.228.135]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C824621F84E2 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from VIPER.InterDigital.com ([10.10.2.36]) by idcout.InterDigital.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:51:08 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:51:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3AD286D6D820574BB25E7339A012918604BC038D@VIPER.InterDigital.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [84attendees] IETF 84 Hyatt Guest Room Network Update Thread-Index: Ac1tBAhSV342zN21QCqxMIKGUpx2VQABu2hw References: From: "Gellert, Dorothy" To: "Jim Martin" , <84attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jul 2012 21:51:08.0807 (UTC) FILETIME=[18949170:01CD6D0B] Subject: Re: [84attendees] IETF 84 Hyatt Guest Room Network Update X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:51:10 -0000 You guys are Awesome! Thanks for taking such good care of us! -----Original Message----- From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jim Martin Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 2:00 PM To: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: [84attendees] IETF 84 Hyatt Guest Room Network Update Welcome to Vancouver!=20 For those staying in the Grand Hyatt Vancouver, the NOC team wanted to let you know that the entirety of the hotel network has just been cut over to the IETF network. That is, both wired and wireless in the guest rooms and in the lobby/bar/restaurant area all connect back to the IETF net, use our IPv4 and IPv6 addressing and goes out through our 1G links to the Internet (Thanks Telus!). The one exception is the Starbucks wireless which is unchanged. [Note: The public areas are still being converted, so give us a few minutes before reporting problems] Please note however, that the original SSIDs are still in place. So in your guestroom, the "Hyatt_Vancouver" SSID is what you should use. If you're currently connected and seeing problems, please re-DHCP (plug/unplug your cable, turn on/off your wifi, or just reboot) to get a new address.=20 If you have any problems, please let us know! Network details and the trouble ticketing system are at http://tickets.meeting.ietf.org or you can just email to tickets@meeting.ietf.org. Have a good meeting! - Jim & the NOC team _______________________________________________ 84attendees mailing list 84attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From fluffy@cisco.com Sat Jul 28 16:25:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD8621F8496 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:25:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.337 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.337 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.262, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QXRwTxyut4hk for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com [173.37.86.72]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23B621F8494 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:25:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=fluffy@cisco.com; l=402; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1343517938; x=1344727538; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=1ATq8EkQP57JxIxiy8C1YNbBNcCH5M8vOuGX/mC0aTM=; b=fLsONmxS/6/k9jzY5MVzXIj+Apc7TStjEJz3JC9jC+JmEt2Ckx6R/Om5 So18KO10ZfLLXbLeJnD4jDjKoG5kwPf7xAkhHgZXcw1WR3xBtQ+NnAIL8 AyNHB43RKS7j+QP0PzXh+7Oo3skvjofod15emovFW9GwTr2z0+Lq3oFRX 8=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EAKV0FFCtJXG9/2dsb2JhbABFuV6BB4IgAQEBAwESASc/BQsCAQg2EDIlAgQOJ4dlBpl5nzeLUIYCYAOVSY4ngWaCXw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,673,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="106091711" Received: from rcdn-core2-2.cisco.com ([173.37.113.189]) by rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 28 Jul 2012 23:25:23 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x10.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x10.cisco.com [173.37.183.84]) by rcdn-core2-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6SNPNvL032193 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:25:23 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com ([169.254.5.237]) by xhc-rcd-x10.cisco.com ([173.37.183.84]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:25:23 -0500 From: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" To: Jamal Hadi Salim Thread-Topic: [84attendees] Sim cards Thread-Index: AQHNbNUhGbdb++/aD0GMQT2AZht9upc/R+GAgAACRQCAADbzgIAAKZGA Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:25:22 +0000 Message-ID: <8D094015-42CD-4F4A-9A08-229E9536369B@cisco.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.21.91.152] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19070.001 x-tm-as-result: No--28.045500-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <0FC07E4666D6BF46992C6253DE8A9FB8@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Roni Even , Haleplidis Evangelos , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Sim cards X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:25:38 -0000 On Jul 28, 2012, at 13:56 , Jamal Hadi Salim wrote: > So at this point I am suggesting for voice/text to get the 7eleven Sim ca= rd > at $30. There is a 7eleven right beside the Sheraton South tower. last time I looked at 7 eleven, you had to buy a phone from them (something= like $40 or $6) with the sim card in it then break the sim card out of the= phone to put it in your own phone From prvs=35569ab603=mjethana@ciena.com Sat Jul 28 16:28:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB95C21F86B4 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:28:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.265 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.265 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uCd1dUPq0WvY for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0b-00103a01.pphosted.com (mx0b-00103a01.pphosted.com [67.231.152.227]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E964021F86B0 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; 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Sun, 29 Jul 2012 01:32:09 +0200 Received: from nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se [131.160.33.3]) by mail.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED6C24D0; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:32:09 +0300 (EEST) Received: from nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB1753372; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:32:09 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CA3525FB; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:32:08 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <50147676.5010007@ericsson.com> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:32:06 -0700 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jamal Hadi Salim References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrMLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+JvrW5lmUiAwafvxhZz7l9gsbi9dQ+b A5PHkiU/mTy23VrLGsAUxWWTkpqTWZZapG+XwJXx78Fj9oJVzBVLp95ha2A8w9TFyMkhIWAi cWHLPTYIW0ziwr31QDYXh5DAKUaJ3Qsa2SGcDYwSj/rXQWV2M0qs3vYTylnHKLHu3HtmCGc+ UFnrRhaQYbwC2hIXZ80Bs1kEVCVWP34AtoRNQEti4/IFYLaoQIjEmm9TGCHqBSVOznwCVi8i oCHR3bqOHcRmFjCUuH7yKlhcWEBF4t+tI0D1HEDLAiRmbtYBCXMKBErMOnqLBaLcVuLCnOtQ trxE89bZzBC/qUlcPbcJzBYCGnPr71m2CYyis5BsnoWkfRaS9gWMzKsYhXMTM3PSy831Uosy k4uL8/P0ilM3MQIj4uCW3wY7GDfdFzvEKM3BoiTOq6e6319IID2xJDU7NbUgtSi+qDQntfgQ IxMHp1QD41JVZ+vj/BWR+lOzIthSz7zeWcpZovmlRFJxam1eyRXfuWKpFyyn/D3qvEqDqdIt 8J7Q5UKJb8pBO5lefo9VsT922Vafqff4nN3v42JefDj7uCldvn1ZpfT3gzNCPDeavJ6+fX3e 7GCJKVeuthzf7nUzefuBAsv2pZNnu3/myNha9OrY7KnKPEosxRmJhlrMRcWJAILwiOtWAgAA Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Sim cards X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:32:11 -0000 I got a WIND SIM card (to use on my backup phone to avoid data roaming costs in my primary phone). There's a 25$ base price for the SIM card, and then prices start from 5$ (50 MB/mo) to 25$ (100 MB/mo) and onwards. So the bottom price to start is 30$. Set the APN to internet.windmobile.ca and you are good to go. (Not exactly cheap, I was in UK last week and got one card for 5£ and an unlimited card for 15£.) Jari From msj@nthpermutation.com Sat Jul 28 17:32:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C94821F86BE for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:32:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WNh786qF4thS for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com (mail-ey0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF98121F8698 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eaaa11 with SMTP id a11so806722eaa.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:32:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=UCTN/tuUdlx989j+i2Oz3OOlGrZMOF4U7E3zBvXxerE=; b=QrDQ41UtrhIdIecK4TDgzUCTRi1suloeSIahncl8rKEmCHGZNVmb2WX96MQIBK4mPf /rkk0FsOW+ybGyz2E8Vy/lnS7bid97/Kqq0bMIzhSrRULOXmIE0Xz4tgxV63SxZ2q/p6 qGVt1XWZFf4YRNTzpnwpRAyGJ2Qjeo9xqnQa+UWtqgAPG409nzoW90AOOsLCZIdAqfUJ UAqqfWydIoSWuSQj7iBLuDCNgANd/TrpsJGL80tPZUWrPWyw20I7gOnm5AOsQOEodAmv qepwf9eRcVRy+YOwq59Hvjg7FkhQ9B6ujjNBLCK9gPVX+ybMlLTdQJRgBTyQ+/qRkJBj kenA== Received: by 10.14.178.131 with SMTP id f3mr7356003eem.38.1343521933365; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:df8:0:64:156b:6ace:8d4c:9b5c? ([2001:df8:0:64:156b:6ace:8d4c:9b5c]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c1sm16806526eeo.5.2012.07.28.17.32.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50148485.9050407@nthpermutation.com> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:32:05 -0400 From: Michael StJohns User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 84attendees@ietf.org References: <50147676.5010007@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <50147676.5010007@ericsson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlgHIdCY/p/lDRrjdb4u13mJxCZojrVcGpFQTVXV/W5BPGoNMZmfT9xYx5NU2W/PpHRpXnC Subject: Re: [84attendees] Sim cards X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:32:16 -0000 On 7/28/2012 7:32 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: > I got a WIND SIM card (to use on my backup phone to avoid data roaming > costs in my primary phone). There's a 25$ base price for the SIM card, > and then prices start from 5$ (50 MB/mo) to 25$ (100 MB/mo) and > onwards. So the bottom price to start is 30$. Set the APN to > internet.windmobile.ca and you are good to go. > > (Not exactly cheap, I was in UK last week and got one card for 5£ and > an unlimited card for 15£.) > > Jari > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees I just got a pay as you go SIM from Rogers. Cost is 9.95 for the SIM plus a minimum initial load of $20CDN. $.15 a minute (or you can get the $1/day charge with $.30/minute daytime, free night/weekends). The first time you try and use internet, you get a text message pointing you to the web site where you can buy a $5 week 60Mb pack or a 1 day 10Mb pack. If you exceed the usage, you just get sent to add another $5 or $1 to the plan rather than usurious per MB rates. Seems to be working as expected. Mike From william.atwood@concordia.ca Sat Jul 28 17:49:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD13A21F8666 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:49:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.973 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.973 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.626, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JfjwSr9QloiZ for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oldperseverance.encs.concordia.ca (oldperseverance.encs.concordia.ca [132.205.96.94]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1651F21F8491 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (bill@poise.encs.concordia.ca [132.205.2.209]) by oldperseverance.encs.concordia.ca (envelope-from william.atwood@concordia.ca) (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id q6T0nAaF022695 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:49:11 -0400 Message-ID: <5014888A.3030107@concordia.ca> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:49:14 -0400 From: John William Atwood Organization: Concordia University, Montreal User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 84attendees@ietf.org References: <50147676.5010007@ericsson.com> <50148485.9050407@nthpermutation.com> In-Reply-To: <50148485.9050407@nthpermutation.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on oldperseverance.encs.concordia.ca at 2012/07/28 20:49:11 EDT Subject: Re: [84attendees] Sim cards X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:49:13 -0000 On 7/28/2012 8:32 PM, Michael StJohns wrote: > On 7/28/2012 7:32 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: >> I got a WIND SIM card (to use on my backup phone to avoid data >> roaming costs in my primary phone). There's a 25$ base price for the >> SIM card, and then prices start from 5$ (50 MB/mo) to 25$ (100 MB/mo) >> and onwards. So the bottom price to start is 30$. Set the APN to >> internet.windmobile.ca and you are good to go. >> >> (Not exactly cheap, I was in UK last week and got one card for 5£ and >> an unlimited card for 15£.) >> >> Jari >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 84attendees mailing list >> 84attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > > I just got a pay as you go SIM from Rogers. Cost is 9.95 for the SIM > plus a minimum initial load of $20CDN. $.15 a minute (or you can get > the $1/day charge with $.30/minute daytime, free night/weekends). The > first time you try and use internet, you get a text message pointing > you to the web site where you can buy a $5 week 60Mb pack or a 1 day > 10Mb pack. If you exceed the usage, you just get sent to add another > $5 or $1 to the plan rather than usurious per MB rates. > > Seems to be working as expected. > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees Just don't go outside the Vancouver area. There is a "note" on the web page describing the one-day and one-week plans---if roaming, you pay 3 cents per KB extra. For 60 MB of data, that would be $1800.00 in roaming charges. -- Dr. J.W. Atwood, Eng. tel: +1 (514) 848-2424 x3046 Distinguished Professor Emeritus fax: +1 (514) 848-2830 Department of Computer Science and Software Engineering Concordia University EV 3.185 email:william.atwood@concordia.ca 1455 de Maisonneuve Blvd. West http://users.encs.concordia.ca/~bill Montreal, Quebec Canada H3G 1M8 From hadi@mojatatu.com Sat Jul 28 18:06:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A6A21F86CA for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:06:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.181, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TcHZiyd17BIE for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:06:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B8121F86C9 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:06:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so7527198obb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:06:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=xvgchrnCkIcfcLtoUei4esFRfGzA/j1qgPrXXhO3G6g=; b=SSumxPM19TYzdYxkBKa4mVtliDgx17FM4Ht2FBp62uqp/RV68JGNOwvjEXAD8t9boY JqlzSToYLoI6NQhoXTFDbk2GFobX5zpNq5Vmh082dG1fnMZGAfBqrT8u3UIfcbIYM7qf OIvh8DtKv5H+feHYMggcbjc2tygg1ZQSYewvGLhK5tyA+7o3N8EYhncgP1hPpzi+8m0/ hPKaojiqzlrRmzuEGEW6q1Mx9p3f2NzR24fqyrz4CHA2DDjLPUJxI5jNKyUzxvNSvksC 0So/gUDbqhVh8+p+VkZYGnz2yE/AkvJm0CDmzh5S+l1euXTpxvmslMjScGZLu5uJJu/n ysLw== Received: by 10.182.117.71 with SMTP id kc7mr10435915obb.62.1343523975606; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:06:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.134.137 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:05:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8D094015-42CD-4F4A-9A08-229E9536369B@cisco.com> References: <8D094015-42CD-4F4A-9A08-229E9536369B@cisco.com> From: Jamal Hadi Salim Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:05:55 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlYy5BCKY8oTOTOW0zE4Wu6E5PoBPQu1wMxYVENtd+COI2Bdk5VEIJ0PCXFxJOOWTSjZ2ce Cc: Roni Even , Haleplidis Evangelos , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Sim cards X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 01:06:16 -0000 On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Cullen Jennings (fluffy) wrote: > last time I looked at 7 eleven, you had to buy a phone from them (something like $40 or $6) with the sim card in it > then break the sim card out of the phone to put it in your own phone > You dont have to buy the phone - although i saw good deals with basic phones. I think if you buy a $80 phone and top it up with a $50 refill, you get something like $40 rebate. I am not sure if it is locked or not. cheers, jamal From hadi@mojatatu.com Sat Jul 28 18:23:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4594F21F86DC for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:23:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.808 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.808 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.169, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9thDk9X0GKKX for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8B721F86DB for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so7547689obb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:23:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=B19kIizI90AQBzjj52gF/w4vMa+7OKT5d5CRAYDBwdY=; b=JrlYRVbE84II7p/t8780bxTGkKqfdH7K3zS9ZMbn5OT+uYWnJelh/D+tPQVpFamCa7 bqaTDsv0UQ5eZkFJ0DdT6QvBjF5xbRePZNenca0OqE5GAIfipm2PuMxQQprtEn2FhzJI 4/OBOHVA5/zfQpj2Ch1A3vv4vZN7snHkfc9EmMiVXTjlusa5SDhssNz1v09mLugaARUO OEDfabfkexecVKYLx6B9S/EqNs57ExQl2dACuVS3w8drBx9c08r26eRFSZ9fkNK3XXN8 pZbAIKhHGP5qWw3ltR7irAkZMFfh2mwcERFWrtgrzZx8oDK/lOx6mGGifDy05Mq7kX/a pzgw== Received: by 10.182.108.71 with SMTP id hi7mr10604013obb.21.1343525016396; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:23:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.134.137 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:23:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <50148485.9050407@nthpermutation.com> References: <50147676.5010007@ericsson.com> <50148485.9050407@nthpermutation.com> From: Jamal Hadi Salim Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:23:16 -0400 Message-ID: To: Michael StJohns Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmCCHvDS8qhQcVbRicVTzTYQgpIRfxqVpnjyTbSbjO34WkOpuCAGq+dK49CAVxxSbUSPStd Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Sim cards X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 01:23:37 -0000 On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Michael StJohns wrote: > I just got a pay as you go SIM from Rogers. Cost is 9.95 for the SIM plus a > minimum initial load of $20CDN. $.15 a minute I was just about to post on this. So my numbers are: $9.99 for the SIM card but no activation fees like Fido. 25c/min on the first 5 minutes each day. 15c after that. So ~30 (like 7eleven but not as good a deal). >(or you can get the $1/day charge with $.30/minute daytime, free night/weekends). They didnt tell me about this plan. This sounds to be better than the fido $1/day if you intend to talk mostly on nights (clearly the weekend thing applies only tomorrow/today). If you do more than 5 minutes you are overspending and the fido plan, maybe. >The first time you > try and use internet, you get a text message pointing you to the web site > where you can buy a $5 week 60Mb pack or a 1 day 10Mb pack. If you exceed > the usage, you just get sent to add another $5 or $1 to the plan rather than > usurious per MB rates. > This part sounds good compared to wind given the base cost of Wind. But if you are planning to use both data and voice (with say 10-20 minutes a day), you are better off with Wind. cheers, jamal From jbradley@pingidentity.com Sat Jul 28 18:34:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC25821F86EC for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:34:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ipICcc1OOktm for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na3sys009aog112.obsmtp.com (na3sys009aog112.obsmtp.com [74.125.149.207]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3B521F86E5 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f49.google.com ([209.85.160.49]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009aob112.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUBSTNsbeEYQEeORHxHFjVuaGCcXO3Fvh@postini.com; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:34:47 PDT Received: by pbbrq13 with SMTP id rq13so8444136pbb.22 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:34:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=ogbt7RZgG3ZNw+is/XYO8KPCanZc3ZUf+btaf+ROcso=; b=Q4tLKsLtEwsPQfIgvZbQPlSUnH0+EHX9IvaU/K4WHv7xHUQ75j6eer1CRaCpCLnAFq fpMWF2jJ6aiSIW4NLeAPzFNylYt9LHEtmCHKa+KAbPEHUPzvmwz1Of9XZK54CYlcgUed YGhsuFb97CA/LwjHzixHvCjY65rElQuojIczL8Pw2xk+IHB3VeD23pUA+u1wEZzkcsRk 2uD8C2qA0IVjE8cVcLR8TVv5BD2LKYuQoLK5MuY7cfpyRXczLhWAj4KWgeh4/ImSlO3i wDQVIwuPEPQ+QT71ZHsejgFA2cuJcAv4rKoAtA5YZDwXy7JXXxBagYkalJr4CoaFg3l/ OsZw== Received: by 10.68.192.73 with SMTP id he9mr24988065pbc.68.1343525686382; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.111.114] (S01060014bf06f566.vc.shawcable.net. [24.84.116.132]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ms9sm4896420pbb.43.2012.07.28.18.34.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1280) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CEF7D68C-B680-4B67-98DA-19CED9158258" From: John Bradley In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:34:44 -0700 Message-Id: <84FA46EA-A886-4154-AD97-B06D02FB75BC@pingidentity.com> References: <50147676.5010007@ericsson.com> <50148485.9050407@nthpermutation.com> To: Jamal Hadi Salim X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1280) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkkbxsPQOdt6aQMdFSHvn2iJqWCVd8REGaXGNFiffjqDbAlGxhfx7NeSEpDmYQVnq299isk Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org, Michael StJohns Subject: Re: [84attendees] Sim cards X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 01:34:48 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_CEF7D68C-B680-4B67-98DA-19CED9158258 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was able to top up the Telus card I got in Quebec, 20c/min for voice = and $30 per 1G for Data but allows tethering. I use mostly Data so it works for me. John B. John Bradley | Sr. Technical Architect Ping Identity | www.pingidentity.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - = - - - - O: +1 720.306.6055 M: +1 720.402.1167=20 Email: jbradley@pingidentity.com On 2012-07-28, at 6:23 PM, Jamal Hadi Salim wrote: > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Michael StJohns = wrote: >=20 >> I just got a pay as you go SIM from Rogers. Cost is 9.95 for the SIM = plus a >> minimum initial load of $20CDN. $.15 a minute >=20 > I was just about to post on this. > So my numbers are: $9.99 for the SIM card but no activation fees like = Fido. > 25c/min on the first 5 minutes each day. 15c after that. > So ~30 (like 7eleven but not as good a deal). >=20 >> (or you can get the $1/day charge with $.30/minute daytime, free = night/weekends). >=20 > They didnt tell me about this plan. > This sounds to be better than the fido $1/day if you intend to talk > mostly on nights > (clearly the weekend thing applies only tomorrow/today). If you do > more than 5 minutes > you are overspending and the fido plan, maybe. >=20 >> The first time you >> try and use internet, you get a text message pointing you to the web = site >> where you can buy a $5 week 60Mb pack or a 1 day 10Mb pack. If you = exceed >> the usage, you just get sent to add another $5 or $1 to the plan = rather than >> usurious per MB rates. >>=20 >=20 > This part sounds good compared to wind given the base cost of Wind. > But if you are planning to use both data and voice (with say 10-20 = minutes > a day), you are better off with Wind. >=20 >=20 > cheers, > jamal > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees --Apple-Mail=_CEF7D68C-B680-4B67-98DA-19CED9158258 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I was = able to top up the Telus card I got in Quebec,  20c/min for voice = and $30 per 1G for Data but allows tethering.

I use = mostly Data so it works for me.

John = B.

John = Bradley  |  Sr. Technical = ArchitectPing Identity  |  &= nbsp;www.pingidentity.com

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On 2012-07-28, at 6:23 PM, Jamal Hadi Salim = wrote:

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Michael StJohns = <msj@nthpermutation.com> = wrote:

I just got a pay as you go SIM = from Rogers.  Cost is 9.95 for the SIM plus = a
minimum initial load of = $20CDN.  $.15 a minute

I was just about to post = on this.
So my numbers are: $9.99 for the SIM card but no activation = fees like Fido.
25c/min on the first 5 minutes each day. 15c after = that.
So ~30 (like 7eleven but not as good a = deal).

(or you can get the $1/day = charge with $.30/minute daytime, free = night/weekends).

They didnt tell me about this = plan.
This sounds to be better than the fido $1/day if you intend to = talk
mostly on nights
(clearly the weekend thing applies only = tomorrow/today). If you do
more than 5 minutes
you are = overspending and the fido plan, maybe.

The first time you
try and use internet, you get a text message pointing you = to the web site
where you can = buy a $5 week 60Mb pack or a 1 day 10Mb pack. If you = exceed
the usage, you just get = sent to add another $5 or $1 to the plan rather = than
usurious per MB = rates.


This= part sounds good compared to wind given the base cost of Wind.
But = if you are planning to use both data and voice (with say 10-20 = minutes
a day), you are better off with = Wind.


cheers,
jamal
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<= /div>= --Apple-Mail=_CEF7D68C-B680-4B67-98DA-19CED9158258-- From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Sat Jul 28 20:49:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF63621F8737 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:49:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j9EcRiSL8gae for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5535821F8735 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.22] (S01060026f3e16488.vc.shawcable.net [24.84.235.32]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6T2wKrT091319 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 19:58:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) From: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:49:32 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5174CD3B-E603-40B8-AD68-19816EB416DA@vpnc.org> References: <50147676.5010007@ericsson.com> <50148485.9050407@nthpermutation.com> To: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Subject: Re: [84attendees] Sim cards X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 03:49:36 -0000 FWIW, the 7-11 in the airport (which is one of the places it was = suggested to buy our transit fare books) does not sell SIM cards. They = had a rack of pay-as-you-go phones (Virgin and someone else), but I'm = not convinced that 7-11 actually sells them. The person at the register = was unhelpful on the SIM/phone issue, quite helpful on transit fare = books. --Paul Hoffman= From randy@psg.com Sat Jul 28 22:29:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C64E11E808A for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 22:29:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iec7C4IeRcxg for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 22:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16D111E8072 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 22:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SvM48-000I8o-99 for 84attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 05:29:20 +0000 Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 22:29:20 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [84attendees] art exhibition at the Vancouver Art Gallery X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 05:29:21 -0000 i very strongly recommend the anthropology museum out on the ubc campus. there is a stunning mass of plunder from the pnw tribes, from the tlingit down to the quileute. some things i was shocked to see on display. there are also diverse collections from bali to burma. but i would focus on the pnw. randy From even.roni@gmail.com Sat Jul 28 23:18:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D5121F84B6 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:18:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.202 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.202 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ko7VKQqsCoC1 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com (mail-we0-f172.google.com [74.125.82.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83C121F84B9 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by weyu54 with SMTP id u54so3249359wey.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:18:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=VoX6y1PZm1V4FDZufd6Jb/UDLc9Dlk2DzX0E8DEUcXY=; b=czr+UBJPn1Ll2YxngFoPPN8biDApMu6zVowMokeNobXq0TzYbt1829z+SsqffbeKTx ZubjcpD75z1P/sttElCkFGzjQJFDgXi8UCtYBYVwGK9JjKbDdeAurq1frKMVP7QPZYfa omcUH/Coh/rKiQR0oHw90IEX4G2624Ka3YwauBZ6RCEQ+NRMueE7bP0H1ol1SGtYbibS LZYh55mx15YpcXh+SaeGw/pvMihZkEMFl+4fogBrgMgyheM5CoL+CJ9E109/7tTfpQ/u aWpZqnAHxOe/q+wgN+fw5sM3W/k55O1mK+zCOOdeXlz+/MDMYxKn3MSDjReW3dwL3GT8 HaNg== Received: by 10.180.96.3 with SMTP id do3mr17600112wib.5.1343542730801; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.129.66.16] (dhcp-4210.meeting.ietf.org. [130.129.66.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eu4sm8551306wib.2.2012.07.28.23.18.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:18:50 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-662C3BE1-9ACB-49EA-B99B-BA289ACB63E6 Message-Id: <38D793AB-A457-46A3-B98C-0845DAC8C7C8@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) From: Roni Even Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:18:46 -0700 To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" Cc: "<84attendees@ietf.org>" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] art exhibition at the Vancouver Art Gallery X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:18:52 -0000 --Apple-Mail-662C3BE1-9ACB-49EA-B99B-BA289ACB63E6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I think that on Tuesday is a pay as you wish day Sent from my iPad On 27 =D7=91=D7=99=D7=95=D7=9C 2012, at 18:49, "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" wrote: > I knew from my previous trips the Vancouver Art Gallery as one of the > remarkable art museums in North America. This morning I visited the > exhibition gathering selected works from the Cone sisters collection at > the Baltimore Museum of Art. The Cone sisters were some of the best art > collectors in the first decades of the 20th century (comparable with the > Stein brothers) and their collection is considered the best gathering of > Matisse works world-wide, but other famous artists like Gaugain or > Picasso are well represented. Strongly recommended to all IETF-ers who > love art, the museum is one block from the Hyatt hotel. > http://www.vanartgallery.bc.ca/the_exhibitions/exhibit_collecting_matiss > e.html >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Dan >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees --Apple-Mail-662C3BE1-9ACB-49EA-B99B-BA289ACB63E6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I think that on Tuesday is a pay as you wish day
=
Sent from my iPad

On 27 =D7=91=D7=99=D7=95=D7=9C 2012, at 1= 8:49, "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <droma= sca@avaya.com> wrote:

I knew from my previous trips the Vancouver Art Gallery as one= of the
remarkable art museums in North America. This mornin= g I visited the
exhibition gathering selected works from the= Cone sisters collection at
the Baltimore Museum of Art. The= Cone sisters were some of the best art
collectors in the fi= rst decades of the 20th century (comparable with the
Stein b= rothers) and their collection is considered the best gathering of
= Matisse works world-wide, but other famous artists like Gaugain or
Picasso are well represented. Strongly recommended to all IETF-= ers who
love art, the museum is one block from the Hyatt hot= el.
http://www.vanartgallery.bc.ca/the_exhibitions/= exhibit_collecting_matiss
e.html
=
Regards,

Dan




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It is clearly our #1 tourist attraction for intelligent people. But you have to remember... OPEN ALL THE DRAWERS. And then go across the road to visit Nitobe, a formal Japanese garden, very beautiful. -T On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > i very strongly recommend the anthropology museum out on the ubc campus. > there is a stunning mass of plunder from the pnw tribes, from the > tlingit down to the quileute. some things i was shocked to see on > display. > > there are also diverse collections from bali to burma. but i would > focus on the pnw. > > randy > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From tomasz.mrugalski@gmail.com Sun Jul 29 03:02:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF2621F86BB for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 03:02:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8aToq9h5s4OX for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 03:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com (mail-ee0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A9421F86B9 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 03:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eekb45 with SMTP id b45so997115eek.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 03:02:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=c/O3TzOUIACNqpyEFh4T53grJeJ/k8YYTB9sOOgue40=; b=a/U/+NXuddXXtOGarvT6vgILq3MdN9yIBRrepPs/8zl/m7quhsAEpmcVOc1kldJWdw n26MhBIPqvBQxN2cBHFuUTdY6+Vn0W324bCeMiqoJ+0/imDNRrPkFM1Cc+Zw33sZvA4j G/NwAliP+nUg07rdlTqUGnYpNplT8MrolKJ11Bh4tDC9dzGD00Ag3YHAGikXQo1jO2VU GECHV7Xo39hnam8CUIHnhGrACRGiTu1jpZrBgWoWaMOcqijwYjZRVKh71l8hDkbc+RrL e9QEKKHzyds7WAgolFvmrHtWCEZvpzbRl6bumdlf2s3eE5drnlQhNpq8BpDVjnWMl8XC nMuA== Received: by 10.14.218.5 with SMTP id j5mr2674920eep.16.1343556142596; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 03:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-4536.meeting.ietf.org ([2001:df8:0:64:cabc:c8ff:fedf:daff]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u48sm19476764eep.7.2012.07.29.03.02.21 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 29 Jul 2012 03:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50150A2B.4020905@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 03:02:19 -0700 From: Tomek Mrugalski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 84attendees@ietf.org References: <617094D13C614436B30F0FB679CA658B@BertLaptop> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [84attendees] Getting here by public transit X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:02:26 -0000 On 12-07-26 13:08, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Bert Wijnen > wrote: > > __ > Can the train ticket be bought on the train, or how does that work? > > Tickets are sold from vending machines, which accept credit cards, at > the train platform. It's a proof-of-payment system. They also accept cash (CAN$) and give back the change. I think I paid $7.50CAN. After 20 hours on planes and airports, things are starting to get fuzzy. Just follow Canada Line directions. Vending machines are on the platform, so you can't miss them. There's also separate validation machine. I put my ticket in it. It immediately gave it back and said that the ticket is valid for next 2 hours or so. I'm not sure if that step was necessary. The last train runs at 0:57 (at least that was the case on Saturday night). The first one is around 5am, but I think is varies from day to day (5am was written on a removable part of the sign). Plain, simple, clean and efficient. -- Tomek From hadi@mojatatu.com Sun Jul 29 06:04:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2FE21F85C4 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:04:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.819 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.819 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.158, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0Jzbedi75H6O for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA39B21F85C0 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so8442930obb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:04:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=mljoZJWQSbUXU75CEUF91p5gURUtMqPH95d1MHCrgPg=; b=o4fkL7ttv1XA63Hsd4uIrsvxYl6yOIH8ushrr/t54PEVtLiyXLZzirDJPK4ljRm45E nwcmIXii0kiWXpYSIfApUBgHjUFNzMEVi22XFQhx6uwgaFaw72aUBqcHTdluM92lMYiw Jz/A0rkaAJjWnm1Rux+H4pP4XdDFGn36TUFn73lZ1tJdHredPG6pth04KxiCDrdNV1/M A4Qg3NwNukpH5dhXlIWNpIL+Ll2vmBmT1ugN3hEh/Uj8vlF6P3PUZ5EUy1N46KzCsAoO oqSzBKcHoZjkH0aqO9HofkNIhb6bBBzqFXXscFDWd8IzkjpLRijBt945F3Q08ls3TVDo TeoA== Received: by 10.60.22.165 with SMTP id e5mr12375172oef.60.1343567049202; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:04:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.134.137 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:03:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5174CD3B-E603-40B8-AD68-19816EB416DA@vpnc.org> References: <50147676.5010007@ericsson.com> <50148485.9050407@nthpermutation.com> <5174CD3B-E603-40B8-AD68-19816EB416DA@vpnc.org> From: Jamal Hadi Salim Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:03:49 -0400 Message-ID: To: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn1XVAk5MZJc/LqeGDUa2tQhwHcuqpGPp3lmrQw2L69f3oANMYfY+N49uCe99e2MMt7P2IV Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Sim cards X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:04:10 -0000 You should be able to get them around the conf area. Ive seen them around at at least 2 that i went into. The closest 7eleven to the hyatt is about 4= 00m. The closest one to the sheraton is about 20m of the south conference. Google search nearby. cheers, jamal On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Paul Hoffman wrot= e: > FWIW, the 7-11 in the airport (which is one of the places it was suggeste= d to buy our transit fare books) does not sell SIM cards. They had a rack o= f pay-as-you-go phones (Virgin and someone else), but I'm not convinced tha= t 7-11 actually sells them. The person at the register was unhelpful on the= SIM/phone issue, quite helpful on transit fare books. > > --Paul Hoffman > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From hadi@mojatatu.com Sun Jul 29 06:39:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B7A21F86DC for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:39:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.528 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.528 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.151, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZtoUoWjPen+q for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2850021F86DB for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so8486112obb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:39:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=eAyx2A/8J5Kjiu/PcO7aSDAk2tF72qm0zE/bxbodBlA=; b=XFwWc3Jm87BK5XUWCtd/guXiUNHcADwPFntRcRSn0o9cDFhKFdbBC1ws0nfDSP2uvS wAWm7ssxLATvSvAzykN1Z3b4DFNS2VlgPb+AQ6ThO1l1FndE8Xv5q1LcR+OzLOE7iXxD xuTmktm7jqhtJn9EULGc12IkkWK12y6rjNOVbzMZQPLe/fcibhAs5gPrrQTBtpDJkJ29 Ud7s7a8ven61RwLbySRm2Q/C/fM2jYNB9sMTZsPNLpEDkXtHWSe1H62FaClFpXUzDMx2 VMG3CyFKFJcQv1VI7SuTTPpjD+G1nC/YtYW6uvbhEoNEdLMaseZM+ya+L+ZN9ZuprABP Vk/w== Received: by 10.60.2.105 with SMTP id 9mr12530686oet.65.1343569159556; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:39:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.134.137 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:38:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamal Hadi Salim Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:38:59 -0400 Message-ID: To: 84attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkcjRvYj03V7TnJ53pvAwQnIqku8WONidLblIaKIPRCtqclN3kQP93IshtVSprS3zKwDIFJ Subject: [84attendees] Final suggestions on Sim cards WAS(Sim cards) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:39:20 -0000 The feature being used as a reference point here is: Price 1) Voice+text: So i am finding out more about env variable effects: a) if you are going to be mostly receiving. Example, some folks get calls from people in areas where it is free to call Canada or it is cheaper than what the mobile company charges. i.e. you signal them via txt or otherwise they call then you talk for an hour at a time. In such a case go with Rogers (thanks to Michael StJohns for making me look closer at Rogers. You pay $10 for the Sim card + buy the $1/day plan (at $20). My understanding is unlike the Fido plan, Rogers thievery is hidden in the $20 you purchase. There is some fee which is worth about $10 that comes off your $20. If you consider free nights and free all you can talk today (sunday), then this $30+tax should last you a week easy. Remember call out is 30c/min and txt out is 20c/min. incoming calls and txt free b) If you are going to be making calls and receiving calls, after 6pm Vancouver time, go with Rogers $1/day plan c) If you are going to make and receive calls during the day, go with 7eleven (total cost of $30 +tax for 400 minutes) 2) If you are going to be doing some data + go with Wind. $25 for the SIM card. $5 for 50M data. $1/M additional 10M. I heard Telus mentioned and the $30G data plan looked appealing but didnt look at them because i think they do CDMA. cheers, jamal From randy@psg.com Sun Jul 29 07:07:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0674521F86E8 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:07:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZM5zVb5aF6ZG for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914BC21F86E4 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SvU9c-000J0u-3K; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:07:32 +0000 Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:07:31 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Tim Bray In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] art exhibition at the Vancouver Art Gallery X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:07:34 -0000 > But you have to remember... OPEN ALL THE DRAWERS. if you have a week > And then go across the road to visit Nitobe, a formal Japanese garden, > very beautiful. -T i live in japan, so this was less critical for me. ymmv. randy From emcho@sip-communicator.org Sun Jul 29 07:38:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187BD21F86AD for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:38:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.976 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.976 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qfUZCZHYV+Q1 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com (mail-yw0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2056821F8616 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yhq56 with SMTP id 56so4512302yhq.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:38:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=RKPe74nGlO+SjlToKVpGmJwjfdlGpDD+lGpU8/Bak2Y=; b=nOEqXO4v6kc/9I+1zcT5xQstq4L3kXIY3oxZ/bpPWwuOitn7h5vvwfQe4eysDyY6fz izvQNyNpXRRywjO2hZ/m8JTEu6XYTRBYFGIIiCGglgGdBSiNK9mLuhw5QxNqkJETShYU smOw3WfssiUasrhBWUFe/MDIvehAZ5tOgcB5rg2+1+UullTVje3Ka1ub9pfKxbUVy7k8 oxOJVEYMBcaPXhzQTCo2NnxuUJOn1aIgAKvDirEM9vCm6EnqY6Iz/yAi1CS80V0QEg1P fpDbzlnW+h/W/WKxqqo8QQcCN0/y+ucK6TPcFh6oPC4nHlqFTdYBNKMjdRnlMzmfbySy jiWA== Received: by 10.236.153.9 with SMTP id e9mr7698826yhk.32.1343572733588; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gh0-f172.google.com (mail-gh0-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s1sm6904939anl.8.2012.07.29.07.38.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ghbg16 with SMTP id g16so4519365ghb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:38:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.207.104 with SMTP id lv8mr6308008igc.41.1343572732471; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.110.203 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.110.203 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:38:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:38:51 -0700 Message-ID: From: Emil Ivov To: 84attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340fbd72e86104c5f8e7c8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnfMLqwxV/s8EQlOyotNQO4mg0HQUKQ6GYa3T4to+8bbei28NdJOZ0C42qFL0xCRa6q3rRZ Subject: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:38:55 -0000 --14dae9340fbd72e86104c5f8e7c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Are we expected to tip waiters that bring beverages during a buffet breakfast? If yes, what would be the average tip? FWIW, the buffet breakfast in the Hyatt costs $26. Emil --sent from my mobile --14dae9340fbd72e86104c5f8e7c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

Are we expected to tip waiters that bring beverages during a buffet breakfast?

If yes, what would be the average tip?

FWIW, the buffet breakfast in the Hyatt costs $26.

Emil

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--14dae9340fbd72e86104c5f8e7c8-- From tbray@textuality.com Sun Jul 29 08:29:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217CE21F8716 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 08:29:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id twyPK+Vb7Zpo for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 08:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f44.google.com (mail-vb0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CF821F8705 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 08:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vbbez10 with SMTP id ez10so4205836vbb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 08:29:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=3DrEjHG/mXkYOZTlpalEW5emJanH3KwZUON8cVHvAX0=; b=SSvQ1yT+fsRGBnt83uBy/7VP31QuoC65lcORGmySD9UpDRt6wNvRcMcRrtsOgZ3R+E qYXePUb8NxuMx7KOUy0bsh3aE7QO91lwtAAC2END1WP9DaQpTGCjZozRInEXOwSUk2IJ YfM4YXAJLkajQ10E2Luluq+hhl0ZDdauxnIQGwsf9207lrWF87vt25bgRAbQNFh7wNnv v2keSiNhkEVPcQD82HE2C1gM8/QuwtAF6n8Y9tExG6aFSUO/hjVfc18Ai+PI66Bvb9rU DAfsAqD/+lg2X1P+N/fC56GpO08v5sr25opSIx8jhahc8q7HUgBscVnoSE6ii/0yx3J5 TIwQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.115.81 with SMTP id h17mr8236871vcq.66.1343575757041; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 08:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.113.162 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 08:29:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [209.121.225.230] Received: by 10.52.113.162 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 08:29:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 08:29:17 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Bray To: Jamal Hadi Salim Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0438944dba30ea04c5f99bd4 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnOzBsMOrx9MKfab1In+M6ST0wzgtc7hOqu8NqkkcQ/4N10+KpS/+xpcN3OGWWdeKURfPEt Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Final suggestions on Sim cards WAS(Sim cards) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:29:20 -0000 --f46d0438944dba30ea04c5f99bd4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm a local, typing this on an HSPA phone with one of the Telus SIMs. If you can find one of those, it's a good deal. Not just CDMA. On Jul 29, 2012 6:39 AM, "Jamal Hadi Salim" wrote: > The feature being used as a reference point here is: Price > > 1) Voice+text: > > So i am finding out more about env variable effects: > > a) if you are going to be mostly receiving. Example, > some folks get calls from people in areas where > it is free to call Canada or it is cheaper than what the mobile > company charges. i.e. you signal them via txt or otherwise > they call then you talk for an hour at a time. In such a case > go with Rogers (thanks to Michael StJohns for making me > look closer at Rogers. > You pay $10 for the Sim card + buy the $1/day plan (at $20). > My understanding is unlike the Fido plan, Rogers thievery is > hidden in the $20 you purchase. There is some fee which > is worth about $10 that comes off your $20. If you consider > free nights and free all you can talk today (sunday), then this > $30+tax should last you a week easy. > Remember call out is 30c/min and txt out is 20c/min. > incoming calls and txt free > > b) If you are going to be making calls and receiving calls, > after 6pm Vancouver time, go with Rogers $1/day plan > > c) If you are going to make and receive calls during the > day, go with 7eleven (total cost of $30 +tax for 400 minutes) > > 2) If you are going to be doing some data + go with > Wind. > $25 for the SIM card. > $5 for 50M data. > $1/M additional 10M. > > I heard Telus mentioned and the $30G data plan looked appealing > but didnt look at them because i think they do CDMA. > > cheers, > jamal > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > --f46d0438944dba30ea04c5f99bd4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm a local, typing this on an HSPA phone with one of th= e Telus SIMs. If you can find one of those, it's a good deal. Not just = CDMA.

On Jul 29, 2012 6:39 AM, "Jamal Hadi Salim&= quot; <hadi@mojatatu.com> wr= ote:
The feature being used as a reference point here is: Price

1) Voice+text:

So i am finding out more about env variable effects:

a) if you are going to be mostly receiving. Example,
some folks get calls from people in areas where
it is free to call Canada or it is cheaper than what the mobile
company charges. i.e. you signal them via txt or otherwise
they call then you talk for an hour at a time. In such a case
go with Rogers =A0(thanks to =A0Michael StJohns for making me
look closer at =A0Rogers.
You pay $10 for the Sim card + buy the $1/day plan (at $20).
My understanding is unlike the Fido plan, Rogers thievery is
hidden in the $20 you purchase. There is some fee which
is worth about $10 that comes off your $20. If you consider
free nights and free all you can talk today (sunday), then this
$30+tax should last you a week easy.
Remember call out is 30c/min and txt out is 20c/min.
incoming calls and txt free

b) If you are going to be making calls and receiving calls,
after 6pm Vancouver time, go with Rogers $1/day plan

c) If you are going to make and receive calls during the
day, go with 7eleven (total cost of $30 +tax for 400 minutes)

2) If you are going to be doing some data + go with
Wind.
$25 for the SIM card.
$5 for 50M data.
$1/M additional 10M.

I heard Telus mentioned and the $30G data plan looked appealing
but didnt look at them because i think they do CDMA.

cheers,
jamal
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--f46d0438944dba30ea04c5f99bd4-- From hadi@mojatatu.com Sun Jul 29 08:57:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4FB21F8625 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 08:57:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.52 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.143, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hPBekuscWsMW for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 08:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455F521F85D5 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 08:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so8652559obb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 08:57:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=bJi5NskqAWBRzAMAIl4ltUu54MMz+qVXgKsM62jIqRg=; b=ccXTsrSD2AoSraCrPJB8gsVdTgknlhy0HA+ThKw49r1E9bNn9mz+9aB920/+fUPn7l HyVdaC72duyDpbOBA+NQHQCMfMQWFISMnhCZH+5Prr1SL/eY+KstPJikPXjSpbhBOTKS DlLBlVNFgtg+tr/Rv+sLBKTXkLJUNCyMU/+0egvb/5IW6feTWPL+M4gArJJ6YNgM0DWe DyPCwv0CjYRnUG2NAHJsVb2T93RFJvzq6vvtem8n4Sz7HSjPUS8LGbR4YeU//z1wA7dT hV9sRBsdET9I/P+Gn6k2zVGOYaWk8WDom3OVQiC24n4WV1PCDcZDXZg5M9sX5ZGhYSdP dXAA== Received: by 10.182.8.6 with SMTP id n6mr13266863oba.39.1343577430560; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 08:57:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.134.137 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 08:56:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jamal Hadi Salim Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:56:50 -0400 Message-ID: To: Tim Bray Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmimKCsuXCEtq4yLo1nCMWGnd4qwyrqsUi07Gcq734TyfHUBkQ+uxoQxwyiX2e4zZml4as4 Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Final suggestions on Sim cards WAS(Sim cards) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:57:14 -0000 On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tim Bray wrote: > I'm a local, typing this on an HSPA phone with one of the Telus SIMs. If you > can find one of those, it's a good deal. Not just CDMA. Good info. So it seems even Bell is now offering HSPA SIM cards. For Telus, the $35 plan here: http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/data_add_ons/add_ons.shtml?INTCMP=ILCq4srves5 SIM card is $10. I didnt walk into a store to verify this, so not sure what other thievery goes on. So Telus is a winner if you want to do data and think you'll end up in the 100s of MB. cheers, jamal > On Jul 29, 2012 6:39 AM, "Jamal Hadi Salim" wrote: >> >> The feature being used as a reference point here is: Price >> >> 1) Voice+text: >> >> So i am finding out more about env variable effects: >> >> a) if you are going to be mostly receiving. Example, >> some folks get calls from people in areas where >> it is free to call Canada or it is cheaper than what the mobile >> company charges. i.e. you signal them via txt or otherwise >> they call then you talk for an hour at a time. In such a case >> go with Rogers (thanks to Michael StJohns for making me >> look closer at Rogers. >> You pay $10 for the Sim card + buy the $1/day plan (at $20). >> My understanding is unlike the Fido plan, Rogers thievery is >> hidden in the $20 you purchase. There is some fee which >> is worth about $10 that comes off your $20. If you consider >> free nights and free all you can talk today (sunday), then this >> $30+tax should last you a week easy. >> Remember call out is 30c/min and txt out is 20c/min. >> incoming calls and txt free >> >> b) If you are going to be making calls and receiving calls, >> after 6pm Vancouver time, go with Rogers $1/day plan >> >> c) If you are going to make and receive calls during the >> day, go with 7eleven (total cost of $30 +tax for 400 minutes) >> >> 2) If you are going to be doing some data + go with >> Wind. >> $25 for the SIM card. >> $5 for 50M data. >> $1/M additional 10M. >> >> I heard Telus mentioned and the $30G data plan looked appealing >> but didnt look at them because i think they do CDMA. >> >> cheers, >> jamal >> _______________________________________________ >> 84attendees mailing list >> 84attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From giles@mozilla.com Sun Jul 29 09:11:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBE521F86D5 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:11:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sp3vPUIGi1Nk for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mozilla.org (mx2.corp.phx1.mozilla.com [63.245.216.70]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7FF21F86CA for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from glaucomys.lan (unknown [207.6.217.65]) (Authenticated sender: rgiles@mozilla.com) by mx2.mail.corp.phx1.mozilla.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BB44FF2566; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <501560B5.90503@mozilla.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:11:33 -0700 From: Ralph Giles User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tomek Mrugalski References: <617094D13C614436B30F0FB679CA658B@BertLaptop> <50150A2B.4020905@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <50150A2B.4020905@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Getting here by public transit X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:11:35 -0000 On 12-07-29 3:02 AM, Tomek Mrugalski wrote: > Just follow Canada Line directions. Vending machines are on the > platform, so you can't miss them. There's also separate validation > machine. I put my ticket in it. It immediately gave it back and said > that the ticket is valid for next 2 hours or so. I'm not sure if that > step was necessary. If you buy a ticket from the vending machines it comes pre-validated. The validation machines are for tickets bought separately in a book of ten. Your ticket is validated if it has a time and date printed on the back. But as you can see, it does no harm. Note that the tickets are good on both the train and busses for the whole 90 minutes, so you make connections or multiple trips within that time period without penalty. -r From achatz@forthnetgroup.gr Sun Jul 29 09:40:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369E021F85FC for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:40:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DAsVoHmugQR1 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.107]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580AA21F85ED for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-05.forthnet.gr (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6TGe8u3017377 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:40:08 +0300 Received: from MX-IN-11.forthnet.gr (mx-in-11.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.31]) by mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6TGe89E013174 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:40:08 +0300 Received: from [130.129.71.76] ([130.129.71.76]) (authenticated bits=0) by MX-IN-11.forthnet.gr (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6TGe3vO017264; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:40:06 +0300 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-11.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=achatz@forthnetgroup.gr; auth=pass (PLAIN) Message-ID: <50156761.8010600@forthnetgroup.gr> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:40:01 -0700 From: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 84attendees@ietf.org References: <617094D13C614436B30F0FB679CA658B@BertLaptop> <50150A2B.4020905@gmail.com> <501560B5.90503@mozilla.com> In-Reply-To: <501560B5.90503@mozilla.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [84attendees] Getting here by public transit X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:40:11 -0000 Is there a ticket/card for a whole day a week, regardless of trips to be done? -- Tassos On 29/7/2012 9:11 πμ, Ralph Giles wrote: > On 12-07-29 3:02 AM, Tomek Mrugalski wrote: > >> Just follow Canada Line directions. Vending machines are on the >> platform, so you can't miss them. There's also separate validation >> machine. I put my ticket in it. It immediately gave it back and said >> that the ticket is valid for next 2 hours or so. I'm not sure if that >> step was necessary. > If you buy a ticket from the vending machines it comes pre-validated. > The validation machines are for tickets bought separately in a book of > ten. Your ticket is validated if it has a time and date printed on the > back. But as you can see, it does no harm. > > Note that the tickets are good on both the train and busses for the > whole 90 minutes, so you make connections or multiple trips within that > time period without penalty. > > -r > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > From giles@mozilla.com Sun Jul 29 09:56:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DC521F866B for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:56:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9h6hV-jddo9S for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mozilla.org (mx1.corp.phx1.mozilla.com [63.245.216.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F4821F8501 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from glaucomys.lan (unknown [207.6.217.65]) (Authenticated sender: rgiles@mozilla.com) by mx1.mail.corp.phx1.mozilla.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 653E8F240A; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50156B34.9090101@mozilla.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:56:20 -0700 From: Ralph Giles User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou References: <617094D13C614436B30F0FB679CA658B@BertLaptop> <50150A2B.4020905@gmail.com> <501560B5.90503@mozilla.com> <50156761.8010600@forthnetgroup.gr> In-Reply-To: <50156761.8010600@forthnetgroup.gr> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Getting here by public transit X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:56:22 -0000 On 12-07-29 9:40 AM, Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: > Is there a ticket/card for a whole day a week, regardless of trips to be > done? Unfortunately not. There's a monthly pass, but it's $81 dollars for the one-zone version. For a one-week visit that's quite a premium to not have to worry about tickets. -r From keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com Sun Jul 29 10:20:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B023D21F846F for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:20:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -107.812 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-107.812 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.563, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ugP07iX6Lzst for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail6.alcatel.fr (smail6.alcatel.fr [62.23.212.42]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06DD21F845F for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.61]) by smail6.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q6THJr0D020795 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:19:54 +0200 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSC3.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.44]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.61]) with mapi; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:19:53 +0200 From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" To: Ralph Giles , Tassos Chatzithomaoglou Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:19:52 +0200 Thread-Topic: [84attendees] Getting here by public transit Thread-Index: Ac1tqxkIzDZ+53OITziJE2HVN36F7wAAucAA Message-ID: References: <617094D13C614436B30F0FB679CA658B@BertLaptop> <50150A2B.4020905@gmail.com> <501560B5.90503@mozilla.com> <50156761.8010600@forthnetgroup.gr> <50156B34.9090101@mozilla.com> In-Reply-To: <50156B34.9090101@mozilla.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.84 Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Getting here by public transit X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 17:20:01 -0000 The one day pass is 9 dollars, which is also valid to/from the airport, and= valid on the public busses too, but you have to get it from 7/11 and the l= ike. Details are in the meeting wiki. Keith > -----Original Message----- > From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Ralph Giles > Sent: 29 July 2012 17:56 > To: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou > Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [84attendees] Getting here by public transit >=20 > On 12-07-29 9:40 AM, Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: >=20 > > Is there a ticket/card for a whole day a week, regardless of trips to b= e > > done? >=20 > Unfortunately not. There's a monthly pass, but it's $81 dollars for the > one-zone version. For a one-week visit that's quite a premium to not > have to worry about tickets. >=20 > -r >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From admin@toph.ca Sun Jul 29 10:24:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98FC21F873E for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:24:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YrK8bzDH8Jcm for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com (mail-yx0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088CA21F873B for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yenq13 with SMTP id q13so4562996yen.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:24:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=dkim-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=NYS6IbXpgZHtWVd9POSIEUON2+LmawZ0Ty0xZFE85vc=; b=Y82F+tObNX00XEPt6Ryaf4HYhO9gvQV7XGzcNFGPMZI066Eohr17IS0A5tTDXLvsxz 1DqbQiNP1vymNgXcexNsJAa9KvLPHC15P9kRw/1O/Y8vj4NVIULSB/+dqyzUJwgvilvG VCBSioPkCDILQC1Ac5BYq7p3tXJSxvFDONJTno4jQTxyYSjVk58swOy9+10hh6OVNfC1 oAeA3Tvr3YFKCnfMhyYB7n8xAyFf/9f/3eUYfProYSqdBpgXdiymgpjGnCOptJy2YsyR YgrLz7wpia04Xf1SZ7Vh/0A5QOdXvF0VhK6HY/lTPwZp+bWTSMVJNrhn6uQ3y4YfZ5ex OzUQ== Received: by 10.101.128.14 with SMTP id f14mr817286ann.47.1343582662421; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r22sm7180830anh.6.2012.07.29.10.24.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so8758125obb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:24:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=toph.ca; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=NYS6IbXpgZHtWVd9POSIEUON2+LmawZ0Ty0xZFE85vc=; b=DMls61xix2Dx5H2CUjAR5KIw4mwFrWwHoPbCve1Bfv92ofMQ5RuHWbcy3mH+4db9AH GPByL3u6wKwxlI2E64sb55T7aqF5Ej3vdEwhQXAXcynpRVRDsoWPXpA7wxlvdSYswSTu WKBOgVGio7pZWppEic+hVlhNLuxz8mOmwztIU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.24.7 with SMTP id q7mr13389660oef.54.1343582661234; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.21.208 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:24:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:24:21 -0700 Message-ID: From: Christoph Blecker To: Emil Ivov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlR2j+hq23IsMnzp4mc7MTACD/iP9zuZ8S1xL3xHQh/L7uIrsqY/S7qjKRrSGaQIAUHYIs6 Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 17:24:23 -0000 I don't know if there is any different expectation for IETF as I'm a first-timer, but as a local, the convention would be no tip. Normally if you go to a restaurant or something in Vancouver with a large group (typically anything bigger than 15-20), the establishment adds on their own gratuity charge to the bill (something in the range of 15-18%). I would expect that such a gratuity is already added on to the cost of the buffet itself. Cheers, Christoph On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Emil Ivov wrote: > Are we expected to tip waiters that bring beverages during a buffet > breakfast? > > If yes, what would be the average tip? > > FWIW, the buffet breakfast in the Hyatt costs $26. > > Emil > > --sent from my mobile > > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > From dworley@avaya.com Sun Jul 29 11:00:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A9E21F846D for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:00:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.213 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.213 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.386, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0UtfY+n-1m1q for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE70721F8467 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:00:01 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EAK93FVDGmAcF/2dsb2JhbABFuV6BB4IgAQEBAQIBEigsGAsCAQgNAQchEDIlAQEEARIIGodlBp0JnCaRUmADm0aKEIJ7 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,675,1336363200"; d="scan'208";a="359478127" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 29 Jul 2012 13:56:08 -0400 Received: from dc-us1hcex2.us1.avaya.com (HELO DC-US1HCEX2.global.avaya.com) ([135.11.52.21]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 29 Jul 2012 13:55:42 -0400 Received: from DC-US1MBEX4.global.avaya.com ([169.254.2.202]) by DC-US1HCEX2.global.avaya.com ([::1]) with mapi; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:00:00 -0400 From: "Worley, Dale R (Dale)" To: Emil Ivov , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:58:55 -0400 Thread-Topic: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast Thread-Index: Ac1tl+U9EifBkCD9SZmNrDGNWTpcUQAG+wUE Message-ID: References: , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:00:02 -0000 > From: Emil Ivov [emcho@jitsi.org] >=20 > Are we expected to tip waiters that bring beverages during a buffet break= fast? The rule I've generally heard in the US is that one does not tip for buffets. I would guess that the practice is the same in Canada. Dale From mehmet.ersue@nsn.com Sun Jul 29 11:03:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB5121F861A for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:03:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.575 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.575 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pc4xaJUHl-Y3 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (demumfd002.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.31]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF1021F8577 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.56]) by demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q6TI3fRW001272 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:03:41 +0200 Received: from demuexc023.nsn-intra.net (demuexc023.nsn-intra.net [10.150.128.36]) by demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q6TI3fZV017999; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:03:41 +0200 Received: from DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.128.18]) by demuexc023.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:03:41 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CD6DB4.7BECCEBD" Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:03:39 +0200 Message-ID: <80A0822C5E9A4440A5117C2F4CD36A6404135D42@DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast Thread-Index: Ac1tl+VedFwLZ3gzSVG3iFywenbGywAHGjEA References: From: "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" To: "ext Emil Ivov" , <84attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2012 18:03:41.0213 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C64BCD0:01CD6DB4] X-purgate-type: clean X-purgate-Ad: Categorized by eleven eXpurgate (R) http://www.eleven.de X-purgate: clean X-purgate: This mail is considered clean (visit http://www.eleven.de for further information) X-purgate-size: 4721 X-purgate-ID: 151667::1343585021-00002E58-D92CB23A/0-0/0-0 Subject: Re: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:03:47 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD6DB4.7BECCEBD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Plus tax. I would give as a minimum $1. =20 Cheers,=20 Mehmet=20 =20 From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Emil Ivov Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 7:39 AM To: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast =20 Are we expected to tip waiters that bring beverages during a buffet breakfast? If yes, what would be the average tip? FWIW, the buffet breakfast in the Hyatt costs $26. Emil --sent from my mobile ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD6DB4.7BECCEBD Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= Plus tax. I would give as a minimum $1.

=  

= Cheers,=
= Mehmet=

=  

From:= = 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of ext Emil Ivov
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 7:39 = AM
To: 84attendees@ietf.org
Subject: [84attendees] = Tipping for a buffet breakfast

 

Are we expected to tip waiters = that bring beverages during a buffet breakfast?

If yes, = what would be the average tip?

FWIW, the buffet = breakfast in the Hyatt costs = $26.

Emil

--sent from my = mobile

------_=_NextPart_001_01CD6DB4.7BECCEBD-- From simon.perreault@viagenie.ca Sun Jul 29 11:06:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759DC21F85F3 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:06:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.529 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.529 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.071, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9loO5afBJYVY for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (unknown [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000:226:55ff:fe57:14db]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047AF21F85D8 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from porto.nomis80.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:16:d4f2:dfff:aecc:1f25]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 60867415BB for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:06:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <50157BB2.2040704@viagenie.ca> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:06:42 -0700 From: Simon Perreault User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 84attendees@ietf.org References: , In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:06:44 -0000 Le 2012-07-29 10:58, Worley, Dale R (Dale) a écrit : > The rule I've generally heard in the US is that one does not tip for > buffets. I would guess that the practice is the same in Canada. This Canadian (Québec) would consider that very rude. Sorry if I offended anyone. Simon -- DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca From dworley@avaya.com Sun Jul 29 11:08:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EDB21F86F7 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:08:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.225 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.225 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.374, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WoVSZVmKUBCU for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C670521F8600 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:08:11 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EAKt6FVCHCzI1/2dsb2JhbABFuV6BB4IgAQEBAQIBElQYCwIBCA0IMTIlAQEEARIIGodlBp0KnCaRUmADiBiTLooQgns X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,675,1336363200"; d="scan'208";a="317468198" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 29 Jul 2012 14:03:47 -0400 Received: from dc-us1hcex2.us1.avaya.com (HELO DC-US1HCEX2.global.avaya.com) ([135.11.52.21]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 29 Jul 2012 13:48:30 -0400 Received: from DC-US1MBEX4.global.avaya.com ([169.254.2.202]) by DC-US1HCEX2.global.avaya.com ([::1]) with mapi; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:08:08 -0400 From: "Worley, Dale R (Dale)" To: Simon Perreault , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:07:18 -0400 Thread-Topic: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast Thread-Index: Ac1ttO4cWX5w4T16RJK50OmjdDwvVQAAA87i Message-ID: References: , , <50157BB2.2040704@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: <50157BB2.2040704@viagenie.ca> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:08:12 -0000 > From: Simon Perreault [simon.perreault@viagenie.ca] >=20 > Le 2012-07-29 10:58, Worley, Dale R (Dale) a =E9crit : > > The rule I've generally heard in the US is that one does not tip for > > buffets. I would guess that the practice is the same in Canada. >=20 > This Canadian (Qu=E9bec) would consider that very rude. Very well, but how much would you tip for a buffet? Dale From mreavy@mozilla.com Sun Jul 29 11:14:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DB221F8735 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:14:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gckd8Gu8aHvX for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mozilla.org (mx2.corp.phx1.mozilla.com [63.245.216.70]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBAA21F8732 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.106] (216-19-183-223.dyn.novuscom.net [216.19.183.223]) (Authenticated sender: mreavy@mozilla.com) by mx2.mail.corp.phx1.mozilla.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 13C6FF20CA for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50157D68.4000401@mozilla.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:14:00 -0700 From: Maire Reavy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 84attendees@ietf.org References: , <50157BB2.2040704@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: <50157BB2.2040704@viagenie.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:14:01 -0000 On 7/29/2012 11:06 AM, Simon Perreault wrote: > Le 2012-07-29 10:58, Worley, Dale R (Dale) a écrit : >> The rule I've generally heard in the US is that one does not tip for >> buffets. I would guess that the practice is the same in Canada. > > This Canadian (Québec) would consider that very rude. > > Sorry if I offended anyone. I'm an American, and I typically make sure to leave a tip of $1-$2 per person at a buffet (whether in US or in Canada), depending on the quality of the food, cleanliness of the tables, etc. If the experience is terrible, I don't tip. Hope this helps. -Maire -- Maire Reavy Mozilla From simon.perreault@viagenie.ca Sun Jul 29 11:15:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE2721F844C for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:15:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J-yUcaaXj6C3 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (unknown [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000:226:55ff:fe57:14db]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDBE221F844A for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from porto.nomis80.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:16:d4f2:dfff:aecc:1f25]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47800415BB for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:15:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <50157DA5.5070005@viagenie.ca> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:15:01 -0700 From: Simon Perreault User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 84attendees@ietf.org References: , , <50157BB2.2040704@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:15:03 -0000 Le 2012-07-29 11:07, Worley, Dale R (Dale) a écrit : >> From: Simon Perreault [simon.perreault@viagenie.ca] >> >> Le 2012-07-29 10:58, Worley, Dale R (Dale) a écrit : >>> The rule I've generally heard in the US is that one does not tip for >>> buffets. I would guess that the practice is the same in Canada. >> >> This Canadian (Québec) would consider that very rude. > > Very well, but how much would you tip for a buffet? 15% Servers (buffet or not) in Canada receive lower than minimal wage base salary and must declare tips in their taxes even if they haven't received any. They're getting super screwed by society. Be kind to them. Simon -- DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca From mreavy@mozilla.com Sun Jul 29 11:22:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E4B21F875D for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:22:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pQhPk1+P1Jzp for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mozilla.org (mx1.corp.phx1.mozilla.com [63.245.216.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEDC21F8755 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.106] (216-19-183-223.dyn.novuscom.net [216.19.183.223]) (Authenticated sender: mreavy@mozilla.com) by mx1.mail.corp.phx1.mozilla.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E656CF22AF for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50157F49.5010107@mozilla.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:22:01 -0700 From: Maire Reavy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 84attendees@ietf.org References: , , <50157BB2.2040704@viagenie.ca> <50157DA5.5070005@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: <50157DA5.5070005@viagenie.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:22:02 -0000 On 7/29/2012 11:15 AM, Simon Perreault wrote: > Le 2012-07-29 11:07, Worley, Dale R (Dale) a écrit : >>> From: Simon Perreault [simon.perreault@viagenie.ca] >>> >>> Le 2012-07-29 10:58, Worley, Dale R (Dale) a écrit : >>>> The rule I've generally heard in the US is that one does not tip for >>>> buffets. I would guess that the practice is the same in Canada. >>> >>> This Canadian (Québec) would consider that very rude. >> >> Very well, but how much would you tip for a buffet? > > 15% > > Servers (buffet or not) in Canada receive lower than minimal wage base > salary and must declare tips in their taxes even if they haven't > received any. They're getting super screwed by society. Be kind to them. Excellent point. It really does depend on how much the buffet costs. If the buffet is $10, $2 per person is quite good. If it's $25, it's not. And I often tip 20%, if the service and experience are quite good. -Maire -- Maire Reavy Mozilla From melinda.shore@gmail.com Sun Jul 29 11:24:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD03721F8762 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:24:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q24i14gtSEZL for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D6621F875E for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so8830842obb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:24:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XvpYW5pWvSS7a/doOzHaIEoSb67sJnoY+wdLacS+vWs=; b=fRYXjW/pM+Uj5UnmfxxJcIXDbrdoJbC4A5CkJJ0c3f5h9MghPqjagg+cWv/tpz80vn 9ipQK0BVnPJAoj8a+GLTe4AKuAEABXuydfXOwyog69jxbLw4DrZv749rdsfL6oIB07o5 WU235Z42jQB6n8pETM8cIvI/47YIZisYCuXcJ8R7cbQEL6iBJ9Rub/Y8YuJrp13svGeV W7V9h1mGIAjyBJD9L9qe5CTjuUcT7TxZsj00NYISYOcr/d/axkaDHZJKrmgMUsw5oq0m iUEhiWVYGlnWMNh3Jta70/WkVmXbtf/ErXWXdbAskxIYuZ39QTFaym5AcfMIbahdq1PT NVpA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.29.161 with SMTP id l1mr13890818oeh.43.1343586249381; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.62.42 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.62.42 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:24:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <50157D68.4000401@mozilla.com> References: <50157BB2.2040704@viagenie.ca> <50157D68.4000401@mozilla.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:24:09 -0800 Message-ID: From: Melinda Shore To: Maire Reavy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb200fa1e97ba04c5fc0d04 Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:24:12 -0000 --e89a8fb200fa1e97ba04c5fc0d04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm both American and Canadian and always tip (possibly because I grew up hearing cracks about Canadians being cheap tippers). However, clearly there's considerable variation. --e89a8fb200fa1e97ba04c5fc0d04 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm both American and Canadian and always tip (possibly because I gr= ew up hearing cracks about Canadians being cheap tippers).=A0 However, clea= rly there's considerable variation.

--e89a8fb200fa1e97ba04c5fc0d04-- From Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com Sun Jul 29 11:26:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC4621F8625 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:26:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.932 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.932 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.666, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oshYMYELR52A for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfwrgout.huawei.com (dfwrgout.huawei.com [206.16.17.72]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26FA21F84B5 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.9.243 (EHLO dfweml202-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.9.243]) by dfwrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.2.3-GA FastPath) with ESMTP id AIE34608; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from DFWEML404-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.203) by dfweml202-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.9.108) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:26:31 -0700 Received: from DFWEML513-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.5]) by dfweml404-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.193.5.203]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:26:29 -0700 From: Tina TSOU To: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: Canada visa Thread-Index: AQHNbber32ejmir0cE2MxDaf/WJ52w== Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:26:28 +0000 Message-ID: <59CCBC53-5349-4017-8F10-8D57A8747705@huawei.com> References: , , <50157BB2.2040704@viagenie.ca>, In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_59CCBC53534940178F108D57A8747705huaweicom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: Denise Kelly , Stephanie Subject: [84attendees] Canada visa X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:26:33 -0000 --_000_59CCBC53534940178F108D57A8747705huaweicom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Two Chinese IETF participants living is US still did not get Canada busines= s visitor visa. The Canada General Consulate in Los Angeles received these two applications= one on June 14 (file reference number is V301779648), one on June 28 (file= Reference is V30186214). Email enquiries have been sent several times, the= feedback was the application receiving dates and file numbers. Any help may reply off list. Thank u very much. --_000_59CCBC53534940178F108D57A8747705huaweicom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Two Chinese IETF participants living is US still did not get Can= ada business visitor visa.
The Canada General Consulate in Los Angeles received these two applic= ations one on June 14 (file reference number is V301779648), one on June 28 (file Reference is V30186214). Email enquiries have been sent several times, the feedback was the applica= tion receiving dates and file numbers.
Any help may reply off list. Thank u very much.
--_000_59CCBC53534940178F108D57A8747705huaweicom_-- From mary.h.barnes@gmail.com Sun Jul 29 13:11:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FE621F862B for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:11:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 49eVmSNvCXae for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-f51.google.com (mail-qa0-f51.google.com [209.85.216.51]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0000D21F862A for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qaea16 with SMTP id a16so556246qae.10 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:11:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=U37A3dZZwrFyLI4i1DU/MEOEXZ4I9aZa0ZgihxAOH4c=; b=mTjGpyAVHJFv0tMFPRUm2VykTdKnnBsQFTIpiqpLtHHveX+UpD/BqcxXPx7b6pLe2J KoWZ+JRec9MUPG0ugrxk/cOSU0hlQE30kEKi0xwQHP4/s87gnh1oYSi1+uviHE0kXi8y J9W+3zXPwI0M74QZxKX/0iLBI+z9Lb8u5rVrjVulIsbaWA5kCrikMt/LnmQxG63iiu0d GpW9cMx+ZOOeDWuYvq8n3dQPCWQncRQd+VKqcHk4I5u0L5q9aML8S9BPYCLboiOgLrFX 0rqmDD2HtzaP1gxaRbqrFGfQ+bZMEjFgn2Is+/A+OUCC3AK/P2E0c3JZ/Jh5yUyWGa+g PqbA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.176.197 with SMTP id bf5mr1985851qab.41.1343592670416; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.84.8 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:11:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:11:10 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mary Barnes To: "Worley, Dale R (Dale)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf302d4d62d7ce0504c5fd8be9 Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Emil Ivov Subject: Re: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:11:12 -0000 --20cf302d4d62d7ce0504c5fd8be9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's incorrect. The standard tip for a buffet is 10%: http://bucks.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/13/a-guide-for-everyday-tipping/ Mary. On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Worley, Dale R (Dale) wrote: > > From: Emil Ivov [emcho@jitsi.org] > > > > Are we expected to tip waiters that bring beverages during a buffet > breakfast? > > The rule I've generally heard in the US is that one does not tip for > buffets. I would guess that the practice is the same in Canada. > > Dale > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > --20cf302d4d62d7ce0504c5fd8be9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's incorrect. =A0The standard tip for a buffet is 10%:

Mary.

On Sun, Jul 29,= 2012 at 12:58 PM, Worley, Dale R (Dale) <dworley@avaya.com>= wrote:
> From: Emil Ivov [emcho@jitsi.org]
>
> Are we expected to tip waiters that bring beverages during a buffet br= eakfast?

The rule I've generally heard in the US is that one does not tip = for
buffets. =A0I would guess that the practice is the same in Canada.

Dale
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--20cf302d4d62d7ce0504c5fd8be9-- From hadi@mojatatu.com Sun Jul 29 13:37:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9EB21F85A0 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:37:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.821 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.821 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.156, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p9DqxO7Lv4FT for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD0C21F852E for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so8998346obb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:37:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Kvq9GIZTrKlaXUR31dcZulW/aeR4Po7roeT/n3OMbvI=; b=ODRdSW6LR/IPCSsLiFTZH5I60aJH93Fu7fzDI720HpHeXgC2BCqlIp2AvIZ8z6E4DI 5eBvUM5DnqT+33b+bDFzreZRVYfoOUW5YccUKwWdiATIP3XBCHtdqRmhKeuq5aX3kOrW 6b5EUlfvQmMnzS9jH8LcZbo4OV/cClr+WQ9XalLmkO2Es0FiRRWEV/M0euvqzxIo7H8T tz43f7WwP2kFT8bYTOsLInx8Aqib9wkK9itdMSnx47dsaDCb7S9Me/ogaTilI9alaxIr pUUljGq2XSZqREHQha8WvKnGsy1frteLBmj+vYmGWOueCAJ+LpTLkpH9dWOu9YEOK62m KOzA== Received: by 10.182.164.40 with SMTP id yn8mr14016562obb.40.1343594275397; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:37:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.134.137 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:37:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <50157DA5.5070005@viagenie.ca> References: <50157BB2.2040704@viagenie.ca> <50157DA5.5070005@viagenie.ca> From: Jamal Hadi Salim Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:37:35 -0400 Message-ID: To: Simon Perreault Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmbATnFFWGZ7uyWuRQAtsMxiTSXeb7rISR58q359Q9mSuBlOxMIwmSlo1mSUE6Ul/89c/8g Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:37:56 -0000 On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Simon Perreault wrote: > 15% > > Servers (buffet or not) in Canada receive lower than minimal wage base > salary and must declare tips in their taxes even if they haven't received > any. They're getting super screwed by society. Be kind to them. > +1 cheers, jamal From wjhns1@hardakers.net Sun Jul 29 13:46:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147B021F8613 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:46:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.95 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.95 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.650, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qYZYYE1owf43 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.hardakers.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:187::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FB621F85AC for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:32:62d8:19ff:fed4:c8b6]) by mail.hardakers.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33E64443; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:46:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Wes Hardaker To: Amy Vezza References: <80A3637C-F6E0-488E-988A-6B2A05F346DB@amsl.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:46:47 -0700 In-Reply-To: <80A3637C-F6E0-488E-988A-6B2A05F346DB@amsl.com> (Amy Vezza's message of "Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:34:16 -0700") Message-ID: <0lk3xmb8i0.fsf@wjh.hardakers.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130004 (Ma Gnus v0.4) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Food Trucks in Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:46:51 -0000 Amy Vezza writes: > Street food seems to be huge here in Vancouver. And you can't go wrong with names like "Street Meet" and "Van Go Espresso": http://www.flickr.com/photos/hardaker/7671457294/in/photostream -- Wes Hardaker SPARTA, Inc. From pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu Sun Jul 29 13:49:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E704521F8625 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:49:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.437 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.437 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_NET=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5Asrs1s8sQHP for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe14:43:76:96:62:16]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF83021F8622 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:49:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id gLld1j0020QuhwU51LpJXJ; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:49:18 +0000 Received: from dhcp-40e5.meeting.ietf.org ([IPv6:2001:df8:0:64:6d7a:4630:4f79:6d76]) by omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id gLp41j00B5NS7QN3NLp57z; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:49:05 +0000 Message-ID: <5015A1CA.5070109@alum.mit.edu> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:49:14 -0700 From: Paul Kyzivat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 84attendees@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:49:17 -0000 On 7/29/12 1:11 PM, Mary Barnes wrote: > That's incorrect. The standard tip for a buffet is 10%: > http://bucks.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/13/a-guide-for-everyday-tipping/ Perhaps someone who has worked in a restaurant could enlighten - when I leave a tip at a full service restaurant, what percentage of that ends up going to the bus boys, etc.? That is the service I would be tipping for at a buffet. Thanks, Paul > Mary. > > On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Worley, Dale R (Dale) > > wrote: > > > From: Emil Ivov [emcho@jitsi.org ] > > > > Are we expected to tip waiters that bring beverages during a > buffet breakfast? > > The rule I've generally heard in the US is that one does not tip for > buffets. I would guess that the practice is the same in Canada. > > Dale > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From randy@psg.com Sun Jul 29 13:59:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99AF21F8705 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:59:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1pQ3HCKTnyBN for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749AD21F86AD for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Svaa3-000Jxg-NL; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:59:15 +0000 Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:59:15 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Melinda Shore In-Reply-To: References: <50157BB2.2040704@viagenie.ca> <50157D68.4000401@mozilla.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org, Maire Reavy Subject: Re: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:59:18 -0000 i am kind of amurikan. i tip well because i have been a waitier. randy From adam@nostrum.com Sun Jul 29 14:10:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4EF21F84F1 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:10:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jBZ+W0rNLIIu for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F6D21F84EF for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-435b.meeting.ietf.org ([130.129.67.91]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6TLA0Ko049404 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:10:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <5015A6A2.8090000@nostrum.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:09:54 -0700 From: Adam Roach User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 84attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 130.129.67.91 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: [84attendees] Recommendation: Vegan Chinese Restaurant X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:10:03 -0000 I just had a very nice lunch at a vegan Chinese restaurant called "Panz Veggie." It's about a 15 minute walk from the hotel. Walking directions from the Hyatt: http://goo.gl/maps/Zs3D6 They have $10 lunch specials that include soup, a spring roll, rice or noodles, and a "stir fry" dish of your choice. The "dessert" they list was simply a wedge of grapefruit, but everything else was ample in proportion. I had their "Country Style" stir fry (thin crispy tofu, soft seitan nuggets, celery, and a tiny bit of red pepper), which I found quite pleasant. http://www.panzveggie.com/menu.html /a From dmcginn@peer1.com Sun Jul 29 14:17:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E0E021F8550 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:17:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ycUHNJHCgQuB for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p01c12o142.mxlogic.net (p01c12o142.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.65]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE1821F8534 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; 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protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="_252E95A6-28CF-489C-9A41-051DEF9AE4ED_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [84attendees] phone for roaming on 3G bands not 2G (was: Final suggestions on Sim cards WAS(Sim cards)) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:18:21 -0000 --_252E95A6-28CF-489C-9A41-051DEF9AE4ED_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_8CE07A420A82D34BBFE03C3318B82677036AF2C8EXDAG0B3intrace_" --_000_8CE07A420A82D34BBFE03C3318B82677036AF2C8EXDAG0B3intrace_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On the same matter, I just bought a Samsung C414M mobile phone at Bell shop on W Georgia cross = Burrard st. (near Hyatt) for 134cad including taxes. Then unlocked it ok with canadagsm.ca for 40cad. (I needed a mobile phone because my home provider Free in France accepts ro= aming to US/Canada only on a 3G band not on the 2G bands which my home phon= e supports. If you know of a cheaper solution for this problem don't tell = :-) FWIW. -- Alexandru Petrescu,=20 Ingenieur Chercheur,=20 DRT/LIST/DIASI/LSC=20 CEA a Saclay, Nano-Innov, Bat 862 pe 22, video http://is010446-4=20 tel : +33(0)169089223=20 alexandru.petrescu@cea.fr=20 http://www-list.cea.fr=20 http://petrescu.fr/CEA_AC_Racine.der (Certificate Authority CEA)=20 http://petrescu.fr/photo.jpg=20 Messages cit=E9s pour r=E9f=E9rence (si rien alors fin de message) :=20 De : 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] de la part= de Jamal Hadi Salim [hadi@mojatatu.com] Date d'envoi : dimanche 29 juillet 2012 17:56 =C0 : Tim Bray Cc : 84attendees@ietf.org Objet : Re: [84attendees] Final suggestions on Sim cards WAS(Sim cards) On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tim Bray wrote: > I'm a local, typing this on an HSPA phone with one of the Telus SIMs. If = you > can find one of those, it's a good deal. Not just CDMA. Good info. So it seems even Bell is now offering HSPA SIM cards. For Telus, the $35 plan here: http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/data_add_ons/add_ons.shtml?INTCMP=3DILCq= 4srves5 SIM card is $10. I didnt walk into a store to verify this, so not sure what other thievery goes on. So Telus is a winner if you want to do data and think you'll end up in the 100s of MB. cheers, jamal > On Jul 29, 2012 6:39 AM, "Jamal Hadi Salim" wrote: >> >> The feature being used as a reference point here is: Price >> >> 1) Voice+text: >> >> So i am finding out more about env variable effects: >> >> a) if you are going to be mostly receiving. Example, >> some folks get calls from people in areas where >> it is free to call Canada or it is cheaper than what the mobile >> company charges. i.e. you signal them via txt or otherwise >> they call then you talk for an hour at a time. In such a case >> go with Rogers (thanks to Michael StJohns for making me >> look closer at Rogers. >> You pay $10 for the Sim card + buy the $1/day plan (at $20). >> My understanding is unlike the Fido plan, Rogers thievery is >> hidden in the $20 you purchase. There is some fee which >> is worth about $10 that comes off your $20. If you consider >> free nights and free all you can talk today (sunday), then this >> $30+tax should last you a week easy. >> Remember call out is 30c/min and txt out is 20c/min. >> incoming calls and txt free >> >> b) If you are going to be making calls and receiving calls, >> after 6pm Vancouver time, go with Rogers $1/day plan >> >> c) If you are going to make and receive calls during the >> day, go with 7eleven (total cost of $30 +tax for 400 minutes) >> >> 2) If you are going to be doing some data + go with >> Wind. >> $25 for the SIM card. >> $5 for 50M data. >> $1/M additional 10M. >> >> I heard Telus mentioned and the $30G data plan looked appealing >> but didnt look at them because i think they do CDMA. >> >> cheers, >> jamal >> _______________________________________________ >> 84attendees mailing list >> 84attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees _______________________________________________ 84attendees mailing list 84attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees --_000_8CE07A420A82D34BBFE03C3318B82677036AF2C8EXDAG0B3intrace_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On the same matter,

 

I just bought a Samsung C414M mobile phone at Bell shop on W Georgia cro= ss Burrard st. (near Hyatt) for 134cad including taxes.

 

Then unlocked it ok with canadagsm.ca for 40cad.

 

(I needed a mobile phone because my home provider Free in France ac= cepts roaming to US/Canada only on a 3G band not on the 2G bands which my h= ome phone supports.  If you know of a cheaper solution for this proble= m don't tell :-)

 

FWIW.

 

 

--
Alexandru Petrescu,
Ingenieur Chercheur,
DRT/LIST/DIASI/LSC
CEA a Saclay, Nano-Innov,
Bat 862 pe 22, video http://is010446-4
tel : +33(0)169089223 <= BR>alexandru.petrescu@cea.fr
http://www-l= ist.cea.fr
http://petrescu.fr/CEA_AC_Racine.der= (Certificate Authority CEA)
http://petrescu.fr/photo.= jpg

Messages cit=E9s pour r=E9f=E9rence (si rien alors fin de m= essage) :
D= e : 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] de la p= art de Jamal Hadi Salim [hadi@mojatatu.com]
Date d'envoi : dimanc= he 29 juillet 2012 17:56
=C0 : Tim Bray
Cc : 84attendee= s@ietf.org
Objet : Re: [84attendees] Final suggestions on Sim car= ds WAS(Sim cards)

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tim Bray <tbray= @textuality.com> wrote:
> I'm a local, typing this on an HSPA phon= e with one of the Telus SIMs. If you
> can find one of those, it's a = good deal. Not just CDMA.

Good info. So it seems even Bell is now of= fering HSPA SIM cards.
For Telus, the $35 plan here:
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/data_add_ons/add_ons= .shtml?INTCMP=3DILCq4srves5
SIM card is $10.
I didnt walk into a = store to verify this, so not sure what other
thievery goes on.

So= Telus is a winner if you want to do data and think you'll end up in
the= 100s of MB.

cheers,
jamal


> On Jul 29, 2012 6:39 A= M, "Jamal Hadi Salim" <hadi@mojatatu.com> wrote:
>>
>&= gt; The feature being used as a reference point here is: Price
>><= BR>>> 1) Voice+text:
>>
>> So i am finding out more= about env variable effects:
>>
>> a) if you are going to= be mostly receiving. Example,
>> some folks get calls from people= in areas where
>> it is free to call Canada or it is cheaper than= what the mobile
>> company charges. i.e. you signal them via txt = or otherwise
>> they call then you talk for an hour at a time. In = such a case
>> go with Rogers  (thanks to  Michael StJoh= ns for making me
>> look closer at  Rogers.
>> You p= ay $10 for the Sim card + buy the $1/day plan (at $20).
>> My unde= rstanding is unlike the Fido plan, Rogers thievery is
>> hidden in= the $20 you purchase. There is some fee which
>> is worth about $= 10 that comes off your $20. If you consider
>> free nights and fre= e all you can talk today (sunday), then this
>> $30+tax should las= t you a week easy.
>> Remember call out is 30c/min and txt out is = 20c/min.
>> incoming calls and txt free
>>
>> b)= If you are going to be making calls and receiving calls,
>> after= 6pm Vancouver time, go with Rogers $1/day plan
>>
>> c) = If you are going to make and receive calls during the
>> day, go w= ith 7eleven (total cost of $30 +tax for 400 minutes)
>>
>>= ; 2) If you are going to be doing some data + go with
>> Wind.
= >> $25 for the SIM card.
>> $5 for 50M data.
>> $1/= M additional 10M.
>>
>> I heard Telus mentioned and the $= 30G data plan looked appealing
>> but didnt look at them because i= think they do CDMA.
>>
>> cheers,
>> jamal
&= gt;> _______________________________________________
>> 84atten= dees mailing list
>> 84attendees@ietf.org
>> https://w= ww.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees
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Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:33:28 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [135.70.156.250] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 17:37:45 -0400 To: Paul Kyzivat , 84attendees@ietf.org From: Al Morton In-Reply-To: <5015A1CA.5070109@alum.mit.edu> References: <5015A1CA.5070109@alum.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Spam: [F=0.2000000000; CM=0.500; S=0.200(2010122901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [144.160.20.145] X-AnalysisOut: [v=1.0 c=1 a=WmwC1mkC2owA:10 a=Jnm-sKjmiDUA:10 a=ofMgfj31e3] X-AnalysisOut: [cA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ZRNLZ4dFUbCvG8] X-AnalysisOut: [UMqPvVAA==:17 a=mPk5OODKRZAHlcqd3NUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10] Subject: Re: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:38:28 -0000 At 04:49 PM 7/29/2012, Paul Kyzivat wrote: >... >Perhaps someone who has worked in a restaurant could enlighten - >when I leave a tip at a full service restaurant, what percentage of >that ends up going to the bus boys, etc.? That is the service I >would be tipping for at a buffet. IIRC, between 5 and 10%, depending again on service (when a waiter has to clear a lot of his own tables because the bus was out back smoking, not much but never zero). Al From ido@akamai.com Sun Jul 29 15:18:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E8411E80C5 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:18:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IRls4JbHAuQb for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prod-mail-xrelay02.akamai.com (prod-mail-xrelay02.akamai.com [72.246.2.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D7611E80BF for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prod-mail-xrelay02.akamai.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss70 (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71E027C0C; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:18:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prod-mail-relay06.akamai.com (prod-mail-relay06.akamai.com [172.17.120.126]) by prod-mail-xrelay02.akamai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C6127C08; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:18:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ustx2ex-cashub.dfw01.corp.akamai.com (ustx2ex-cashub5.dfw01.corp.akamai.com [172.27.33.71]) by prod-mail-relay06.akamai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5F12088; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:18:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from USMBX2.msg.corp.akamai.com ([169.254.1.211]) by ustx2ex-cashub5.dfw01.corp.akamai.com ([172.27.33.71]) with mapi; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 17:18:54 -0500 From: "Safruti, Ido" To: Jamal Hadi Salim , Tim Bray Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 17:18:47 -0500 Thread-Topic: [84attendees] Final suggestions on Sim cards WAS(Sim cards) Thread-Index: Ac1t2COxu0887K3+Sw+wFeXKyTuYzg== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Final suggestions on Sim cards WAS(Sim cards) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:18:58 -0000 FWIW - went to a Rogers store close to the hotel (robson & seymour), and a sim+activation is at $40 (or $45 can't remember). The $9.99 is for online orders only, (can't order online and do a store pickup - must be delivered, so takes time=8A). So I guess this option is off (unless I am missing some secret code I should mention on the store). On 7/29/12 8:56 AM, "Jamal Hadi Salim" wrote: >On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tim Bray wrote: >> I'm a local, typing this on an HSPA phone with one of the Telus SIMs. >>If you >> can find one of those, it's a good deal. Not just CDMA. > >Good info. So it seems even Bell is now offering HSPA SIM cards. >For Telus, the $35 plan here: >http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/data_add_ons/add_ons.shtml?INTCMP=3DILC= q4 >srves5 >SIM card is $10. >I didnt walk into a store to verify this, so not sure what other >thievery goes on. > >So Telus is a winner if you want to do data and think you'll end up in >the 100s of MB. > >cheers, >jamal > > >> On Jul 29, 2012 6:39 AM, "Jamal Hadi Salim" wrote: >>> >>> The feature being used as a reference point here is: Price >>> >>> 1) Voice+text: >>> >>> So i am finding out more about env variable effects: >>> >>> a) if you are going to be mostly receiving. Example, >>> some folks get calls from people in areas where >>> it is free to call Canada or it is cheaper than what the mobile >>> company charges. i.e. you signal them via txt or otherwise >>> they call then you talk for an hour at a time. In such a case >>> go with Rogers (thanks to Michael StJohns for making me >>> look closer at Rogers. >>> You pay $10 for the Sim card + buy the $1/day plan (at $20). >>> My understanding is unlike the Fido plan, Rogers thievery is >>> hidden in the $20 you purchase. There is some fee which >>> is worth about $10 that comes off your $20. If you consider >>> free nights and free all you can talk today (sunday), then this >>> $30+tax should last you a week easy. >>> Remember call out is 30c/min and txt out is 20c/min. >>> incoming calls and txt free >>> >>> b) If you are going to be making calls and receiving calls, >>> after 6pm Vancouver time, go with Rogers $1/day plan >>> >>> c) If you are going to make and receive calls during the >>> day, go with 7eleven (total cost of $30 +tax for 400 minutes) >>> >>> 2) If you are going to be doing some data + go with >>> Wind. >>> $25 for the SIM card. >>> $5 for 50M data. >>> $1/M additional 10M. >>> >>> I heard Telus mentioned and the $30G data plan looked appealing >>> but didnt look at them because i think they do CDMA. >>> >>> cheers, >>> jamal >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 84attendees mailing list >>> 84attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees >_______________________________________________ >84attendees mailing list >84attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com Sun Jul 29 15:21:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2682D21F8621 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:21:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.57 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.57 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.029, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zm84PbP2OGrl for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8115721F861F for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0707.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.32]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id q6TMLlFK009341; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 17:21:48 -0500 Received: from [164.48.125.20] (147.117.20.214) by smtps-am.internal.ericsson.com (147.117.20.32) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.264.0; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:21:41 -0400 Message-ID: <5015B770.2060507@ericsson.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:21:36 -0700 From: Suresh Krishnan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Roach References: <5015A6A2.8090000@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <5015A6A2.8090000@nostrum.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Recommendation: Vegan Chinese Restaurant X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:21:51 -0000 On 07/29/2012 02:09 PM, Adam Roach wrote: > I just had a very nice lunch at a vegan Chinese restaurant called "Panz > Veggie." It's about a 15 minute walk from the hotel. Walking directions > from the Hyatt: http://goo.gl/maps/Zs3D6 > > They have $10 lunch specials that include soup, a spring roll, rice or > noodles, and a "stir fry" dish of your choice. The "dessert" they list > was simply a wedge of grapefruit, but everything else was ample in > proportion. > > I had their "Country Style" stir fry (thin crispy tofu, soft seitan > nuggets, celery, and a tiny bit of red pepper), which I found quite > pleasant. I went there for dinner as well. The food was fantastic. The hot and sour soup was excellent. Cheers Suresh From linfeng.john.zheng@gmail.com Sun Jul 29 15:34:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F00411E80BF for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:34:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.504 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.504 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, CN_BODY_16=0.013, CN_BODY_24=0.034, CN_BODY_832=0.004, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_OBFUSCATE_05_10=0.001, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R8GtovFxdvqL for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-f172.google.com (mail-vc0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5978F11E8072 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vcbfo14 with SMTP id fo14so4304303vcb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:34:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=YDLRxSFgCnVu+f0kFO7zuYnl9hobS3hBnCyzPjBxEl8=; b=fZL026D8xjxeHZB3qA+RVPYZZMr6odETwIh/ZpVCZxefHuXN3r5h+Fwbqu1Ns9h0zO pAmlknyk2f1KCh8yLVticrVIZCGU8kWrF2PqDo612ZRX2JdpYT0CBF+Mtb1UdlA2nRvw qCY2QrOVryV9YroEc+dUXbwaVDG4BVlwxsJC48PjS+RHAjK4lIzmbStaLEYowakAQg9V NUvzNdhPh6lXzS+QxdRw3rdWeJYtjNmHvYHvW2ChfSGjYns/rVHPttNFE+3nPoLULTpX TK4zVqr919evNLvAIgaaSwZNPyFymS5XoiuDREkjOEGwPK8fPVm7f9C3aZ5Sa6Z/ZgSG OJ0g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.222.145 with SMTP id ig17mr9089734vcb.15.1343601273577; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.172.40 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:34:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <59CCBC53-5349-4017-8F10-8D57A8747705@huawei.com> References: <50157BB2.2040704@viagenie.ca> <59CCBC53-5349-4017-8F10-8D57A8747705@huawei.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 06:34:33 +0800 Message-ID: From: Linfeng Zheng To: Tina TSOU Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9cdbf69a19f9404c5ff8cdb Cc: Denise Kelly , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Stephanie Subject: Re: [84attendees] Canada visa X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:34:35 -0000 --14dae9cdbf69a19f9404c5ff8cdb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe next IETF=A1=AD =D4=DA 2012=C4=EA7=D4=C230=C8=D5=D0=C7=C6=DA=D2=BB=A3=ACTina TSOU =D0=B4=B5=C0=A3=BA > Two Chinese IETF participants living is US still did not get Canada business visitor visa. > The Canada General Consulate in Los Angeles received these two applications one on June 14 (file reference number is V301779648), one on June 28 (file Reference is V30186214). Email enquiries have been sent several times, the feedback was the application receiving dates and file numbers. > Any help may reply off list. Thank u very much. --=20 =D0=BB=D0=BB=A3=AC=D6=A3=C1=D6=B7=E5 John Linfeng Zheng *=CC=EC=B5=D8=B2=CA=BB=AA*=CE=C4=BB=AF=D0=C5=CF=A2=D7=C9=D1=AF=D3=D0=CF=DE= =D4=F0=C8=CE=B9=AB=CB=BE CHA Consulting Firm =D6=B4=D0=D0=B6=AD=CA=C2/=BE=AD=C0=ED President/CEO =B5=E7=BB=B0(Tel): +86-591-83809031(O) 15306915548(Cell) 15195762065(=C4= =FENJ) =B5=D8=D6=B7(Addr): =B8=A3=D6=DD=CA=D0=B8=A3=D0=C2=C2=B7239=BA=C5=CB=AB=D7= =D3=D0=C7=B4=F3=CF=C3=C8=FD=C2=A5=A3=C2=C7=F8810=A3=ACP.R.China =B2=A9=BF=CD(Blog): http://blog.sina.com.cn/23gtrees --14dae9cdbf69a19f9404c5ff8cdb Content-Type: text/html; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe next IETF…

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--14dae9cdbf69a19f9404c5ff8cdb-- From msj@nthpermutation.com Sun Jul 29 15:46:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37BA11E80BF for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:46:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.376 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.376 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tX8m2ZzGJsoI for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72DC411E8072 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lagv3 with SMTP id v3so3190839lag.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:46:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=LidohC+fDWRyFc39aXhAsbhvIzpjJ4M+MxXxhJF5MXk=; b=hcKmln2lTyjNLSYuw0kYEesSojomyEYJonEjOmFiOAqMiaf3EKtx76zyCQhP37Fjbs T1vSkOWaH0hjZNwAS08F4bTz0k+R+nR9jw7D+O3NVjMzu1T44Pv4Yuh5ONSxj3SKyRdc BBuVQ9O+MnSdtuzJqxu1rw9BbsOTSlcg5u6xoFNgZTsLoomY2mkkGh5TGjAr6+pc+o6I 4bvu7J+PkwkWaDgxbx5kx6jt2Hx91H6t5BtBc90e0Jlsx4eNzUEdBnJeO2AjjtV0K+rL 9puRxGXEhmr42H/99LisUaUoqbI1ekhC2MOuhGpUw2B5VvohYvoMSHE3Ph2ZgZqFentN 58hA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.43.67 with SMTP id u3mr4451986lbl.16.1343601975397; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.134.9 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:46:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [130.129.69.209] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:46:15 -0400 Message-ID: From: "StJohns, Michael" To: "Safruti, Ido" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4efe2fae768d8804c5ffb6a3 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmy9iCVXgrYvt54LehJOPQn0qPBk2LWZmasbltah51dAStYV2aHNR6KqbXZ/GlJuUomH54E Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Tim Bray , Jamal Hadi Salim Subject: Re: [84attendees] Final suggestions on Sim cards WAS(Sim cards) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:46:18 -0000 --e0cb4efe2fae768d8804c5ffb6a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Go to the Rogers stand in the Pacific Centre. That's where I got mine. Just past Howe Street on Dunsmuir. (left out of the front of the hotel, right on Dunsmuir for two blocks) On Sunday, July 29, 2012, Safruti, Ido wrote: > FWIW - went to a Rogers store close to the hotel (robson & seymour), and = a > sim+activation is at $40 (or $45 can't remember). The $9.99 is for online > orders only, (can't order online and do a store pickup - must be > delivered, so takes time=C5=A0). > So I guess this option is off (unless I am missing some secret code I > should mention on the store). > > > On 7/29/12 8:56 AM, "Jamal Hadi Salim" > > wrote: > > >On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tim Bray > > wrote: > >> I'm a local, typing this on an HSPA phone with one of the Telus SIMs. > >>If you > >> can find one of those, it's a good deal. Not just CDMA. > > > >Good info. So it seems even Bell is now offering HSPA SIM cards. > >For Telus, the $35 plan here: > > > http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/data_add_ons/add_ons.shtml?INTCMP=3DIL= Cq4 > >srves5 > >SIM card is $10. > >I didnt walk into a store to verify this, so not sure what other > >thievery goes on. > > > >So Telus is a winner if you want to do data and think you'll end up in > >the 100s of MB. > > > >cheers, > >jamal > > > > > >> On Jul 29, 2012 6:39 AM, "Jamal Hadi Salim" > > wrote: > >>> > >>> The feature being used as a reference point here is: Price > >>> > >>> 1) Voice+text: > >>> > >>> So i am finding out more about env variable effects: > >>> > >>> a) if you are going to be mostly receiving. Example, > >>> some folks get calls from people in areas where > >>> it is free to call Canada or it is cheaper than what the mobile > >>> company charges. i.e. you signal them via txt or otherwise > >>> they call then you talk for an hour at a time. In such a case > >>> go with Rogers (thanks to Michael StJohns for making me > >>> look closer at Rogers. > >>> You pay $10 for the Sim card + buy the $1/day plan (at $20). > >>> My understanding is unlike the Fido plan, Rogers thievery is > >>> hidden in the $20 you purchase. There is some fee which > >>> is worth about $10 that comes off your $20. If you consider > >>> free nights and free all you can talk today (sunday), then this > >>> $30+tax should last you a week easy. > >>> Remember call out is 30c/min and txt out is 20c/min. > >>> incoming calls and txt free > >>> > >>> b) If you are going to be making calls and receiving calls, > >>> after 6pm Vancouver time, go with Rogers $1/day plan > >>> > >>> c) If you are going to make and receive calls during the > >>> day, go with 7eleven (total cost of $30 +tax for 400 minutes) > >>> > >>> 2) If you are going to be doing some data + go with > >>> Wind. > >>> $25 for the SIM card. > >>> $5 for 50M data. > >>> $1/M additional 10M. > >>> > >>> I heard Telus mentioned and the $30G data plan looked appealing > >>> but didnt look at them because i think they do CDMA. > >>> > >>> cheers, > >>> jamal > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> 84attendees mailing list > >>> 84attendees@ietf.org > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > >_______________________________________________ > >84attendees mailing list > >84attendees@ietf.org > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > --e0cb4efe2fae768d8804c5ffb6a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Go to the Rogers stand in the Pacific Centre. =C2=A0That's where I got = mine. =C2=A0Just past Howe Street on Dunsmuir. (left out of the front of th= e hotel, right on Dunsmuir for two blocks)

On Sunday, J= uly 29, 2012, Safruti, Ido wrote:
FWIW - went to a Rogers store close to the h= otel (robson & seymour), and a
sim+activation is at $40 (or $45 can't remember). The $9.99 is for onli= ne
orders only, (can't order online and do a store pickup - must be
delivered, so takes time=C5=A0).
So I guess this option is off (unless I am missing some secret code I
should mention on the store).


On 7/29/12 8:56 AM, "Jamal Hadi Salim" <hadi@= mojatatu.com> wrote:

>On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tim Bray <tbra= y@textuality.com> wrote:
>> I'm a local, typing this on an HSPA phone with one of the Telu= s SIMs.
>>If you
>> can find one of those, it's a good deal. Not just CDMA.
>
>Good info. So it seems even Bell is now offering HSPA SIM cards.
>For Telus, the $35 plan here:
>http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/data= _add_ons/add_ons.shtml?INTCMP=3DILCq4
>srves5
>SIM card is $10.
>I didnt walk into a store to verify this, so not sure what other
>thievery goes on.
>
>So Telus is a winner if you want to do data and think you'll end up= in
>the 100s of MB.
>
>cheers,
>jamal
>
>
>> On Jul 29, 2012 6:39 AM, "Jamal Hadi Salim" <hadi@mojatatu.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The feature being used as a reference point here is: Price
>>>
>>> 1) Voice+text:
>>>
>>> So i am finding out more about env variable effects:
>>>
>>> a) if you are going to be mostly receiving. Example,
>>> some folks get calls from people in areas where
>>> it is free to call Canada or it is cheaper than what the mobil= e
>>> company charges. i.e. you signal them via txt or otherwise
>>> they call then you talk for an hour at a time. In such a case<= br> >>> go with Rogers =C2=A0(thanks to =C2=A0Michael StJohns for maki= ng me
>>> look closer at =C2=A0Rogers.
>>> You pay $10 for the Sim card + buy the $1/day plan (at $20). >>> My understanding is unlike the Fido plan, Rogers thievery is >>> hidden in the $20 you purchase. There is some fee which
>>> is worth about $10 that comes off your $20. If you consider >>> free nights and free all you can talk today (sunday), then thi= s
>>> $30+tax should last you a week easy.
>>> Remember call out is 30c/min and txt out is 20c/min.
>>> incoming calls and txt free
>>>
>>> b) If you are going to be making calls and receiving calls, >>> after 6pm Vancouver time, go with Rogers $1/day plan
>>>
>>> c) If you are going to make and receive calls during the
>>> day, go with 7eleven (total cost of $30 +tax for 400 minutes)<= br> >>>
>>> 2) If you are going to be doing some data + go with
>>> Wind.
>>> $25 for the SIM card.
>>> $5 for 50M data.
>>> $1/M additional 10M.
>>>
>>> I heard Telus mentioned and the $30G data plan looked appealin= g
>>> but didnt look at them because i think they do CDMA.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> jamal
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> 84attendees mailing list
>>> 84attendees@ietf.org
>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees
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--e0cb4efe2fae768d8804c5ffb6a3-- From bob.hinden@gmail.com Sun Jul 29 16:00:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8955A21F8534 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:00:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6RT6-TqWn8jJ for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com (mail-we0-f172.google.com [74.125.82.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A9B21F852E for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by weyu54 with SMTP id u54so3603281wey.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:00:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=oSux7iQwuzWPtxtHkgF/bpJoOVguvx9rOM8vyjthfZE=; b=hd22ytK9sG5gTSmTxUlFqVpaqxfqotkDBHC0L2e1VgoPvRGCrqp3zsr5riRJqi1j8X CcyuCLDoqekm1962DNQIxto0S88PwtEtv0Erxuvla/Q3gHGtYuRPyupMz0WSfExYAtdL SZefFrqBzj++7bZlsF/vU6UkQ24u6kt8nM9DINBpT3LgM7aZQCl7A6iQp310Tum95oMg ZudDt0WcTexaCzuZRtnpFGigeA4O0hdJuiFl43JBoAmqDXa5GDhjmmHfagirR5Fq3K6u KwDbCX56CrsHOO3PXhugC5VZxLcpcRjLAM/09k1GR8BjW3bc9YN7PQK0I+Oj6dtbIwy7 jeyg== Received: by 10.180.78.4 with SMTP id x4mr37826657wiw.19.1343602844698; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-4328.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-4328.meeting.ietf.org. [130.129.67.40]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z11sm19369063wiv.10.2012.07.29.16.00.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:00:43 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1280) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:00:37 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4D67C55A-B157-49E7-8645-0E1F25D11BD6@gmail.com> References: <80A3637C-F6E0-488E-988A-6B2A05F346DB@amsl.com>, <0lk3xmb8i0.fsf@wjh.hardakers.net> To: Dan McGinn X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1280) Cc: Amy Vezza , attendees <84attendees@ietf.org>, Bob Hinden , Wes Hardaker Subject: Re: [84attendees] Food Trucks in Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 23:00:46 -0000 I have eaten at "Roaming Dragon", and "Japadog". Both very good and are = on Burrand Street. Bob On Jul 29, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Dan McGinn wrote: > Ironically "street meat" has the best veggie burger I've tried in = years.=20 >=20 > --=20 > Dan McGinn > Network Design Architect >=20 > PEER 1 Hosting | Ping & People >=20 > 1000-555 West Hastings Street > Vancouver, BC, Canada V6B 4N5 >=20 > T: 604.683.7747x1179 | F: 604.683.4634 > www.peer1.com >=20 > On Jul 29, 2012, at 13:46, "Wes Hardaker" = wrote: >=20 >> Amy Vezza writes: >>=20 >>> Street food seems to be huge here in Vancouver. >>=20 >> And you can't go wrong with names like "Street Meet" and "Van Go = Espresso": >>=20 >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/hardaker/7671457294/in/photostream >> --=20 >> Wes Hardaker >> SPARTA, Inc. >> _______________________________________________ >> 84attendees mailing list >> 84attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From johnl@taugh.com Sun Jul 29 16:19:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A681021F8454 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:19:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.587 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.587 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.013, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vhg59v3CNEpO for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E1F11E80EE for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16238 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2012 23:19:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=3f6c.5015c51c.k1207; bh=S7ONZVVtj22ymdo74OJIXhiDxp0y93Ujqbz+hgY+LJA=; b=VynrJ5peibwmV/bTo9SYJf9yZXEthscFujMsbqH+dtR3+S/IT/2Cgn/cmsS6NiG+F9Dg2W9Euzvk+JbWbvR2nmrtLbGM0tduAJq9vwXyg4tkV7K049o3DN3wLpHbEQdFtsTHsP6PLbCwVfZYYD9VmQuu00WGwt3/ECWDYiO/jPQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=3f6c.5015c51c.k1207; bh=S7ONZVVtj22ymdo74OJIXhiDxp0y93Ujqbz+hgY+LJA=; b=FIR0ljGHEr7S+sJPIy4MGbbAtkKOroNyM/GcNQA7IwZ2glVU4G/P2vCzH6WkaqrDYPHqffZ0v0CCanQVxsL8Y5TLOl24CH0zhRExqzFokw3H4DUiila4t1mCu8cP/KhR66pJ2tYli6dtdiy/qMY04pvg6csUcKTDRSHuiQzGkJM= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 29 Jul 2012 23:19:34 -0000 Date: 29 Jul 2012 19:19:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: "Paul Kyzivat" In-Reply-To: <5015A1CA.5070109@alum.mit.edu> References: <5015A1CA.5070109@alum.mit.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 23:19:58 -0000 >> That's incorrect. The standard tip for a buffet is 10%: >> http://bucks.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/13/a-guide-for-everyday-tipping/ Well, that's what some bureaucrat in Vermont, which isn't even in the same country as Vancouver, claims. > Perhaps someone who has worked in a restaurant could enlighten - when I > leave a tip at a full service restaurant, what percentage of that ends > up going to the bus boys, etc.? That is the service I would be tipping > for at a buffet. It's all over the place, and there's really no way to tell other than asking the staff someplace where the managers can't hear them. The staff at restaurants do tough job for lousy pay. Unless the service was really dreadful, leave them a few bucks. R's, John From craemer@isoc.org Sun Jul 29 16:33:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058F721F862A for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:33:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.116, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gcxsilh92t7N for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp171.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp171.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.171]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44BA921F8625 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp17.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9E2DE1881A0; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:33:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp17.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: craemer-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 4585118819D; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:33:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Craemer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:33:12 -0700 Message-Id: To: ietf@ietf.org, 84attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [84attendees] ISOC@IETF 84 Briefing Panel - World IPv6: Launched! X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 23:33:20 -0000 As a reminder, the Internet Society is organizing a briefing panel on = Tuesday, 31 July, 11:45am - 12:45pm PDT, in conjunction with IETF 84 in = Vancouver: World IPv6: Launched! On June 6, 2012, more than 50 access providers and thousands of websites = around the globe joined together in establishing IPv6 as the "new = normal" for the Internet. Participating content providers turned on IPv6 = on their main sites -- for good. Participating access providers are = offering IPv6 by default to their customers, and have at least 1% of = their traffic to major websites over IPv6. At a high level, it is clear = that this represents a significant, concrete step forward in the = deployment of operational IPv6 in the Internet. Uptake of IPv6 is not = evenly distributed across all access networks for a variety of reasons = and there is clearly still much work to do. This panel will share more = specific numbers and perspectives outlining the impact of World IPv6 = Launch. A limited number of seats are still available for the briefing. = Pre-registration is required and available by following the link at: http://www.internetsociety.org/isoc-panel-ietf-84 For those unable to attend, we will provide a live audiocast at: http://verilan.com/isoc.m3u Kevin Craemer Senior Events Manager Internet Society craemer@isoc.org From alex.giladi@gmail.com Sun Jul 29 18:21:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D53721F84DC for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:21:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tjK3348weqbF for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C4A21F843F for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:21:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lbbgo11 with SMTP id go11so3339226lbb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:21:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=v5oLXgdsqBQhIG+UWUme4jItLvITBdoAS2bScPpgTts=; b=XQeQNL4L3b87NvhHuLQ+2/vXapqiGhnK2ROjEy1p9JrO04pXTDTL54sMPTVrjxoDfX u5XD7rKwj+SxYIbQdU2rUb8Dp8g3X9Sy1RlYoKf772f2PtTBmlgnRBG1oZR6z4sPwTzt QX3u6uhpTbs6Ht2W1nwhaX1INToJDtXdXFGRiQGbLKAkPZBCE5wTr3F+GJHngIiScvGa 9OUtaBXqjkVr0IMpH3B23eGxoutL0vF0g9SuiAJrQAKsU48mUNm3Ixj0xqYRSXmLfgUU eJFwU9B93gniHKovzZKUUt841ZjqAu9BWiZQpTQjwe+4czqHx9bzhGdRT668cACwbEge ITug== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.46.9 with SMTP id r9mr4506422lbm.81.1343611303514; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.112.198 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.112.198 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:21:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:21:43 -0400 Message-ID: From: Alex Giladi To: "StJohns, Michael" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0401236f76532204c601e25d Cc: "Safruti, Ido" , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Tim Bray , Jamal Hadi Salim Subject: Re: [84attendees] Final suggestions on Sim cards WAS(Sim cards) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:21:46 -0000 --f46d0401236f76532204c601e25d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is also a Telus shop there, they have a fairly decent deal on 1Gb data. On Jul 29, 2012 3:46 PM, "StJohns, Michael" wrote: > Go to the Rogers stand in the Pacific Centre. That's where I got mine. > Just past Howe Street on Dunsmuir. (left out of the front of the hotel, > right on Dunsmuir for two blocks) > > On Sunday, July 29, 2012, Safruti, Ido wrote: > >> FWIW - went to a Rogers store close to the hotel (robson & seymour), and= a >> sim+activation is at $40 (or $45 can't remember). The $9.99 is for onlin= e >> orders only, (can't order online and do a store pickup - must be >> delivered, so takes time=C5=A0). >> So I guess this option is off (unless I am missing some secret code I >> should mention on the store). >> >> >> On 7/29/12 8:56 AM, "Jamal Hadi Salim" wrote: >> >> >On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tim Bray wrote= : >> >> I'm a local, typing this on an HSPA phone with one of the Telus SIMs. >> >>If you >> >> can find one of those, it's a good deal. Not just CDMA. >> > >> >Good info. So it seems even Bell is now offering HSPA SIM cards. >> >For Telus, the $35 plan here: >> > >> http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/data_add_ons/add_ons.shtml?INTCMP=3DI= LCq4 >> >srves5 >> >SIM card is $10. >> >I didnt walk into a store to verify this, so not sure what other >> >thievery goes on. >> > >> >So Telus is a winner if you want to do data and think you'll end up in >> >the 100s of MB. >> > >> >cheers, >> >jamal >> > >> > >> >> On Jul 29, 2012 6:39 AM, "Jamal Hadi Salim" wrote= : >> >>> >> >>> The feature being used as a reference point here is: Price >> >>> >> >>> 1) Voice+text: >> >>> >> >>> So i am finding out more about env variable effects: >> >>> >> >>> a) if you are going to be mostly receiving. Example, >> >>> some folks get calls from people in areas where >> >>> it is free to call Canada or it is cheaper than what the mobile >> >>> company charges. i.e. you signal them via txt or otherwise >> >>> they call then you talk for an hour at a time. In such a case >> >>> go with Rogers (thanks to Michael StJohns for making me >> >>> look closer at Rogers. >> >>> You pay $10 for the Sim card + buy the $1/day plan (at $20). >> >>> My understanding is unlike the Fido plan, Rogers thievery is >> >>> hidden in the $20 you purchase. There is some fee which >> >>> is worth about $10 that comes off your $20. If you consider >> >>> free nights and free all you can talk today (sunday), then this >> >>> $30+tax should last you a week easy. >> >>> Remember call out is 30c/min and txt out is 20c/min. >> >>> incoming calls and txt free >> >>> >> >>> b) If you are going to be making calls and receiving calls, >> >>> after 6pm Vancouver time, go with Rogers $1/day plan >> >>> >> >>> c) If you are going to make and receive calls during the >> >>> day, go with 7eleven (total cost of $30 +tax for 400 minutes) >> >>> >> >>> 2) If you are going to be doing some data + go with >> >>> Wind. >> >>> $25 for the SIM card. >> >>> $5 for 50M data. >> >>> $1/M additional 10M. >> >>> >> >>> I heard Telus mentioned and the $30G data plan looked appealing >> >>> but didnt look at them because i think they do CDMA. >> >>> >> >>> cheers, >> >>> jamal >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> 84attendees mailing list >> >>> 84attendees@ietf.org >> >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees >> >_______________________________________________ >> >84attendees mailing list >> >84attendees@ietf.org >> >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 84attendees mailing list >> 84attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees >> > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > > --f46d0401236f76532204c601e25d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

There is also a Telus shop there, they have a fairly decent deal on 1Gb = data.

On Jul 29, 2012 3:46 PM, "StJohns, Michael&= quot; <msj@nthpermutation.com<= /a>> wrote:
Go to the Rogers stand in the Pacific Centre. =C2=A0That's where I got = mine. =C2=A0Just past Howe Street on Dunsmuir. (left out of the front of th= e hotel, right on Dunsmuir for two blocks)

On Sunday, J= uly 29, 2012, Safruti, Ido wrote:
FWIW - went to a Rogers store close to the h= otel (robson & seymour), and a
sim+activation is at $40 (or $45 can't remember). The $9.99 is for onli= ne
orders only, (can't order online and do a store pickup - must be
delivered, so takes time=C5=A0).
So I guess this option is off (unless I am missing some secret code I
should mention on the store).


On 7/29/12 8:56 AM, "Jamal Hadi Salim" <hadi@mojatatu.com> wrote:

>On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com<= /a>> wrote:
>> I'm a local, typing this on an HSPA phone with one of the Telu= s SIMs.
>>If you
>> can find one of those, it's a good deal. Not just CDMA.
>
>Good info. So it seems even Bell is now offering HSPA SIM cards.
>For Telus, the $35 plan here:
>http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/data= _add_ons/add_ons.shtml?INTCMP=3DILCq4
>srves5
>SIM card is $10.
>I didnt walk into a store to verify this, so not sure what other
>thievery goes on.
>
>So Telus is a winner if you want to do data and think you'll end up= in
>the 100s of MB.
>
>cheers,
>jamal
>
>
>> On Jul 29, 2012 6:39 AM, "Jamal Hadi Salim" <hadi@= mojatatu.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The feature being used as a reference point here is: Price
>>>
>>> 1) Voice+text:
>>>
>>> So i am finding out more about env variable effects:
>>>
>>> a) if you are going to be mostly receiving. Example,
>>> some folks get calls from people in areas where
>>> it is free to call Canada or it is cheaper than what the mobil= e
>>> company charges. i.e. you signal them via txt or otherwise
>>> they call then you talk for an hour at a time. In such a case<= br> >>> go with Rogers =C2=A0(thanks to =C2=A0Michael StJohns for maki= ng me
>>> look closer at =C2=A0Rogers.
>>> You pay $10 for the Sim card + buy the $1/day plan (at $20). >>> My understanding is unlike the Fido plan, Rogers thievery is >>> hidden in the $20 you purchase. There is some fee which
>>> is worth about $10 that comes off your $20. If you consider >>> free nights and free all you can talk today (sunday), then thi= s
>>> $30+tax should last you a week easy.
>>> Remember call out is 30c/min and txt out is 20c/min.
>>> incoming calls and txt free
>>>
>>> b) If you are going to be making calls and receiving calls, >>> after 6pm Vancouver time, go with Rogers $1/day plan
>>>
>>> c) If you are going to make and receive calls during the
>>> day, go with 7eleven (total cost of $30 +tax for 400 minutes)<= br> >>>
>>> 2) If you are going to be doing some data + go with
>>> Wind.
>>> $25 for the SIM card.
>>> $5 for 50M data.
>>> $1/M additional 10M.
>>>
>>> I heard Telus mentioned and the $30G data plan looked appealin= g
>>> but didnt look at them because i think they do CDMA.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> jamal
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> 84attendees mailing list
>>> 84attendees@ietf.org
>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees
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--f46d0401236f76532204c601e25d-- From scott.brim@gmail.com Sun Jul 29 18:44:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE7D11E80D7 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:44:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4Up+ePQUCFuT for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4514E11E80BC for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pbcwy7 with SMTP id wy7so8900339pbc.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:44:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=thouv/Iugv9Ibk1c9KzTk8Zsgx+FoM9fM+m0l2bDqdk=; b=MT+2/BdSLyr7dwbGBsIgdCgDV4KEqASSr0BjD43pbgzKW9SA3BVhW5IlcOiP7xmlnx XOywHbFuldwAA+2vCC+1+GSI6sZ/aly77YwAT8/img7776DAQOVnzFcn4CVCzzM5kiJd Gd/NdKaqRarHcBJ32ggBvjiEUZT98LGOWxiTNcOF4upRzUHkPe+/u7ivER66u+cP0mie jk3tQkv8y8FuZu1KHSWh3RBEv0X6y3Gl9PymDQuiB7zeXgEU8Zjw2pZ4fyqn3bwN7Wra CnYrK84adt04vxFJCsWGoy8L9PPddtdWMfr9rXcL2tg9lNJoQqIbOjhSwGfZFlZS9qhS qyXQ== Received: by 10.68.203.73 with SMTP id ko9mr31649031pbc.66.1343612664062; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:44:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.48.231 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:44:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5015B770.2060507@ericsson.com> References: <5015A6A2.8090000@nostrum.com> <5015B770.2060507@ericsson.com> From: Scott Brim Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:44:02 -0700 Message-ID: To: Suresh Krishnan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Adam Roach Subject: Re: [84attendees] Recommendation: Vegan Chinese Restaurant X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:44:24 -0000 Thanks! From bector.online@gmail.com Sun Jul 29 18:55:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C3221F8645 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:55:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.669 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.669 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.929, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9KVhUAFUivsa for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com (mail-wg0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43ED721F8630 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wgbdr13 with SMTP id dr13so2974872wgb.13 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:55:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=yTRXUZ95ewXR0spq2GybJD6+c5JiMhCVAI0SRoiLd5c=; b=Cl2RGmottjIu5bf/rsHmSkJgN2dXBuKVlHRs0D2ltkqGaz+k7qLwwEKhuXc9+focwG s1vbviWZqe56S/QNdZhLx7jTSJ1b3ovVX4iRk5Gg7knt9JB97dAene1hWMkh5X4Y02w8 uHRFQuyL+E91P+a6Z3HfxfhAF9jxfThq3llPz0wlA7TPB93/EsHEn8El2cLyKx85vG16 Yt9tLAc0C4dCFLEurV37eHGEKW7G3EIgewC73NXpLYGOVu/BrXUyqa4mydkJW3kcMn18 ULa7kdz6gmCWK6Qr0hD+LuPMIwiWCno4qUpYmFG7mxsDdoww7cdlud8v1sTuiEeUb+SP VlnQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.83.234 with SMTP id t10mr891965wiy.0.1343613347241; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.44.34 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:55:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5015A6A2.8090000@nostrum.com> <5015B770.2060507@ericsson.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:55:47 -0700 Message-ID: From: Rajeev Bector To: Scott Brim Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0442727a471df804c6025c30 Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Adam Roach , Suresh Krishnan Subject: Re: [84attendees] Recommendation: Vegan Chinese Restaurant X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:55:49 -0000 --f46d0442727a471df804c6025c30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Talking about food. Anyone up for grabbing dinner maybe around 7:30 ? I really dont know very many places around - there's an Indian place called Salam Bombay on Burrard itself (seems to have decent reviews). I might go to that.. but I am flex. Rajeev On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Scott Brim wrote: > Thanks! > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > --f46d0442727a471df804c6025c30 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Talking about food. Anyone up for grabbing dinner maybe around 7:30 ? I really dont know very many places around - there's an Indian place called Salam Bombay on Burrard itself (seems to have decent reviews). I might go to that.. but I am flex.

Rajeev



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--f46d0442727a471df804c6025c30-- From randy@psg.com Sun Jul 29 19:29:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC8C11E810B for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:29:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lvJBCdF2aDpD for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350CA11E8107 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Svfjl-000Kza-EX; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 02:29:37 +0000 Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:29:38 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Rajeev Bector In-Reply-To: References: <5015A6A2.8090000@nostrum.com> <5015B770.2060507@ericsson.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Adam Roach , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Scott Brim , Suresh Krishnan Subject: Re: [84attendees] Recommendation: Vegan Chinese Restaurant X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 02:29:40 -0000 > Salam Bombay pretty good From hsalgado@nic.cl Sun Jul 29 21:52:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE63211E8119 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:52:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_34=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UsIn5oVNOzqS for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.nic.cl (mail.nic.cl [IPv6:2001:1398:1::6008]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D51A11E810F for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.nic.cl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.nic.cl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E84CC81C5 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 00:52:08 -0400 (CLT) Received: from [172.30.14.17] (hsalgado-vpn.intra.nic.cl [172.30.14.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.nic.cl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E4ACC81C0 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 00:52:07 -0400 (CLT) Message-ID: <501612F3.9080506@nic.cl> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:52:03 -0700 From: Hugo Salgado User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 84attendees@ietf.org References: <20500.17654.736434.375802@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> In-Reply-To: <20500.17654.736434.375802@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on Mon Jul 30 00:52:08 2012 -0400 (CLT) Subject: Re: [84attendees] RFC and I-D ebooks available in http://tools.ietf.org/ebook/ X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 04:52:12 -0000 Thanks a lot, work great in a sony ebook reader. Hugo On 07/28/2012 01:00 PM, Tero Kivinen wrote: > The .mobi (kindle) and .epub files containing the RFCs and > Internet-Drafts are available in the http://tools.ietf.org/ebook/ > directory. There are following files: > > * rfc.mobi - All RFCs in single .mobi (kindle) file > * rfc.epub - All RFCs in single .epub file > * area.*.* - I-Ds, related I-Ds, WG RFCs for all WGs in area > * i-d.*.* - I-Ds, related I-Ds, WG RFCs for a WG > > Those files are automatically generated every weekend. > > I personally copy rfc.mobi and all area.*.mobi on my kindle before I > leave for IETF, so I can read drafts while traveling. > From bector.online@gmail.com Sun Jul 29 22:06:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E44311E8127 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:06:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.133 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.133 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.465, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p0zT+Eu+Ul-M for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com (mail-we0-f172.google.com [74.125.82.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501B411E808D for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by weyu54 with SMTP id u54so3727886wey.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:06:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=I7dcSt8rIXoMrWs6BJ6jImFrfb5DSHqoAeAJXnhRfik=; b=piWfbo8PeUWfuxfrUBF6AKxUgpZPtwMhXhqL1wxEL7v3ohYWrCksucizWyTZJRFqlm 27S7sNEx7QLMzMKYO/MSnnsaeqJp9ERxWlV9NFy1GLdMmRIGoFVqKm0pgTnEBA4KSyzM iN17Wt2a74006N9Y8Ubwv/9GM7wnH5NU0bGoSH+lRGm/2nAlRFRJdQ/qTpiDPWz0vm90 HB3MWXetAdgeV7914C0MUrproCAoTJh05qPYGD0XxTstz007GGisSYa2+HExuDxarGju JKB86XQ3xnmAORwFJmJs4t6CENeOlvfKjR2Vn3XX4d4mc+oafqUwS2FEZvO+QedMQtQw D7dg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.82.164 with SMTP id j4mr23480390wiy.18.1343624766397; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.44.34 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:06:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5015A6A2.8090000@nostrum.com> <5015B770.2060507@ericsson.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:06:06 -0700 Message-ID: From: Rajeev Bector To: 84attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04428d96e99bc004c6050459 Subject: Re: [84attendees] Recommendation: Vegan Chinese Restaurant X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 05:06:08 -0000 --f46d04428d96e99bc004c6050459 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Actually my experience today was : "meh...". I wouldnt go there again. It could be what I ordered. On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > > Salam Bombay > > pretty good > --f46d04428d96e99bc004c6050459 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Actually my experience today was : "meh...". I wouldnt go there a= gain. It could be what I ordered.

On Sun= , Jul 29, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
> Salam Bombay

pretty good

--f46d04428d96e99bc004c6050459-- From mary.h.barnes@gmail.com Sun Jul 29 23:15:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E0221F847B for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 23:15:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.765 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.765 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.833, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wrp+ySGO4BNO for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 23:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-f44.google.com (mail-qa0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3884B21F847A for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 23:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qadz3 with SMTP id z3so701046qad.10 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 23:15:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=DDbMcC3to/ksY/kbtWW04VSvRggUIFQ/DEzquQRJeEk=; b=r+QA8NrHNGCtVIdweCzrPHnvopFSUmvXuMgtdvnHYxy74STO0p/S1iwGpbIJoo9nEk v+C2JObtoFkZYCeXJ3mt/4X/5EDjqaOTSM4dAxbVbqvs873cSvrv25o6Gi5DDigHPFAv YCxc90OCVnzPFUfKW7uLVl6IKCJA7MN7TX9x8eF1ZdlBhkhLmHFQA8gwYzG3QOkWMZah vhFRiGUG7tX7rtncRxuZBkTv/m25jG8pZPbtC2kfs+IhzKDQim6iPlqUPlv1CHzRjvtW AC279TzMvPLVhXjHSP6gA+gOvorVNMecBRgfdKarEXkqDqBqEA+zS7SGCusH3gtycuzo IvrQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.187.6 with SMTP id cu6mr21769387qab.63.1343628942726; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 23:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.84.8 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 23:15:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5015A1CA.5070109@alum.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:15:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mary Barnes To: John R Levine Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30334a73d7548d04c605fd84 Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org, Paul Kyzivat Subject: Re: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 06:15:44 -0000 --20cf30334a73d7548d04c605fd84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:19 PM, John R Levine wrote: > That's incorrect. The standard tip for a buffet is 10%: >>> http://bucks.blogs.nytimes.**com/2010/12/13/a-guide-for-** >>> everyday-tipping/ >>> >> > Well, that's what some bureaucrat in Vermont, which isn't even in the same > country as Vancouver, claims. > [MB] John - Dale made the statement that in the US, one did not give tips at buffets, which is what I was responding to. The article might be written by some bureaucrat in Vermont, but it is referencing Emily Post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Post Emily Post is a very common standard for etiquette in the U.S. Also, if you use a very clever trick and google "buffet tip us", you will find lots of webpages with the same recommendation - i.e., 10% for buffet restaurants. [/MB] > > Perhaps someone who has worked in a restaurant could enlighten - when I >> leave a tip at a full service restaurant, what percentage of that ends up >> going to the bus boys, etc.? That is the service I would be tipping for at >> a buffet. >> > > It's all over the place, and there's really no way to tell other than > asking the staff someplace where the managers can't hear them. > > The staff at restaurants do tough job for lousy pay. Unless the service > was really dreadful, leave them a few bucks. > [MB] Agreed. [/MB] > > R's, > John > ______________________________**_________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/84attendees > --20cf30334a73d7548d04c605fd84 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:19 PM, John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
That's incorrect. =A0The standard tip for a buffet is 10%:
http://bucks.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/13= /a-guide-for-everyday-tipping/

Well, that's what some bureaucrat in Vermont, which isn't even in t= he same country as Vancouver, claims.
[MB] John - Dale= made the statement that in the US, one did not give tips at buffets, which= is what I was responding to. The article might be written by some bureaucr= at in Vermont, but it is referencing Emily Post:
Emily Post is a very common standard fo= r etiquette in the U.S. =A0Also, if you use a very clever trick and google = "buffet tip us", you will find lots of webpages with the same rec= ommendation - i.e., 10% for buffet restaurants. [/MB]

Perhaps someone who has worked in a restaurant could enlighten - when I lea= ve a tip at a full service restaurant, what percentage of that ends up goin= g to the bus boys, etc.? That is the service I would be tipping for at a bu= ffet.

It's all over the place, and there's really no way to tell other th= an asking the staff someplace where the managers can't hear them.

The staff at restaurants do tough job for lousy pay. =A0Unless the service = was really dreadful, leave them a few bucks.
[MB] Agre= ed. [/MB]=A0

R's,
John
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--20cf30334a73d7548d04c605fd84-- From johnl@taugh.com Mon Jul 30 01:39:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C8B21F872A for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:39:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.588 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.588 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.012, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1LAdJva8mE5R for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CEBA21F8735 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9642 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2012 08:39:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=25a8.5016483f.k1207; bh=4kH3mdbKdCEgBHU3A7PwfLMtoBwRA+INPp8SFjJcnzk=; b=on2Q42GLXGv8BqiHHlsfsxQtHZjEBrDwxr+1IVmwYzpb7c2c7dD1WZ6NUbV17m3NlOpXr+JTw6Gct1sx+2p8314J6CwHl4FMoVQty6PFUc6yIattqeaH5dKcg2l3ZzAs2vdzoSnYdBdk71DHE9XVPhb3BaWQQmW/Eges3ajfv68= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=25a8.5016483f.k1207; bh=4kH3mdbKdCEgBHU3A7PwfLMtoBwRA+INPp8SFjJcnzk=; b=Jqs7JpNmiUbAqMWbV/m2q4+wplqWyEnu6+Nw4OWMSc2Uab6qomud/hQryTZ22H93+4J2sTlQwZyG8nOSeyu1mEL0Mqqv6nRfhuXSFXuwv3qQwdz50rMiYyGBo7AwjpPZ/PY48IhHYdQQWJ/bheO4yLp50cs0kgaWD5qXqzA81hI= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 30 Jul 2012 08:39:05 -0000 Date: 30 Jul 2012 04:39:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: "Mary Barnes" In-Reply-To: References: <5015A1CA.5070109@alum.mit.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 08:39:30 -0000 >> Well, that's what some bureaucrat in Vermont, which isn't even in the same >> country as Vancouver, claims. >> > [MB] John - Dale made the statement that in the US, one did not give tips > at buffets, which is what I was responding to. The article might be written > by some bureaucrat in Vermont, but it is referencing Emily Post: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Post Yes, that's the bureaucrat in Vermont. R's, John From mary.h.barnes@gmail.com Mon Jul 30 06:57:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB2A21F8705 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 06:57:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.32 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.32 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.278, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25rMLkFPrOvA for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 06:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qc0-f172.google.com (mail-qc0-f172.google.com [209.85.216.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0E821F8703 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 06:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qcac10 with SMTP id c10so3176817qca.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 06:57:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=k9Ct/iKWxVX/y+55H+OyPK2LBtm3ZuEfnA1AvOK2F40=; b=Ul9ie3aydPtJxvsnoQkmLFsLSIjei1l6Kr2DbM8hShxLEk9KTyyorJWcEK7bHP271g QXxl8HlsxZnWvloPL0HJV5UjmQeSktVqb3wMa5Ot3hmsJewNbpkq/usQqISdOgAHnqWb BSaGru8Fgw6rv+So4LSSnK5EHUVCZ+zyafW6hXOxUlhs/0aBDnrBTMJ79UQROpZyT80P dIie7TTrKlKHnwy74a5Z6e3hVPgdfEk+aRgdzwt7OQl/0tzRJf12e8JE1bJsEkp/0MFy zySPMLEfPx1vhQntz+7IZhDTbYSKQh/6AxiWmlZQ7XMj3il3dLqNinFjKWdsKsBAJ5ET vF3w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.217.134 with SMTP id hm6mr23385765qab.50.1343656658765; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 06:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.84.8 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 06:57:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5015A1CA.5070109@alum.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 08:57:38 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mary Barnes To: John R Levine Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf300faf7dd8881204c60c7156 Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Tipping for a buffet breakfast X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:57:40 -0000 --20cf300faf7dd8881204c60c7156 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I guess I should not be surprised that someone at IETF would confuse etiquette and courtesy with bureaucracy. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:39 AM, John R Levine wrote: > Well, that's what some bureaucrat in Vermont, which isn't even in the same >>> country as Vancouver, claims. >>> >>> [MB] John - Dale made the statement that in the US, one did not give >> tips >> at buffets, which is what I was responding to. The article might be >> written >> by some bureaucrat in Vermont, but it is referencing Emily Post: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Emily_Post >> > > Yes, that's the bureaucrat in Vermont. > > R's, > John > --20cf300faf7dd8881204c60c7156 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I guess I should not be surprised that someone at IETF would confuse e= tiquette and courtesy with bureaucracy.

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:39 AM, John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
Well, that's what some bureaucrat in Vermont, which isn't even in t= he same
country as Vancouver, claims.

[MB] John - Dale made the statement that in the US, one did not give tips at buffets, which is what I was responding to. The article might be written=
by some bureaucrat in Vermont, but it is referencing Emily Post:
http:= //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Post

Yes, that's the bureaucrat in Vermont.

R's,
John

--20cf300faf7dd8881204c60c7156-- From ben@nostrum.com Mon Jul 30 09:29:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1558621F858A for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:29:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BpPMWeJIbAPA for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91CD721F857D for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-625b.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-625b.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.98.91]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6UGTc9F069620 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:29:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) From: Ben Campbell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:29:37 -0500 To: 84attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 130.129.98.91 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: [84attendees] iPad roaming problem X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:29:40 -0000 Hi, Has anyone successfully roamed to a local carrier with an ATT iPad 3?=20 I'm getting "no service", with an i18n data package, cellular data and = data roaming turned on, etc. Thanks! Ben.= From spencer@wonderhamster.org Mon Jul 30 09:41:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4777711E80A5 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:41:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Brd5IViT4jhy for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C172911E809B for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.129.36.176] (dhcp-24b0.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.36.176]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LcB81-1TctHY10i5-00jVfo; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:41:33 -0400 Message-ID: <5016B925.4060009@wonderhamster.org> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:41:09 -0500 From: Spencer Dawkins User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexa Morris References: <80A3637C-F6E0-488E-988A-6B2A05F346DB@amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <80A3637C-F6E0-488E-988A-6B2A05F346DB@amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:Wk3yAvnqpK12LVsrJgcWGeHvehBfoqbW7m7fv52H0w1 P9QNQpoDfWABAcdHGkKSib551QnRshsxTP/PhCkgicdobmN23O c7KyLdsR9YwE9ciGw1KSZNBRt/TSMTrRyj0xPMzkIMtOWifjJC oaMb0S2QchCqDu17OCmnv/DfNn8iCpKRXkvx7eOIGB8o43AqtV Sd3mHVsz9r0U7hGN8Vplny3gj5xmszvJRJSGm7HKisif4f+Rf4 GEViKfxKI59NyB63HGa5qkELMOuq4e9nbxfGGuHp62mEtqXzeE azRrRjO4GlTWBfrhoo9+RSagIPY3JRyfxcV8EekKf8fT67psDa U+CQQkW1dA4X/fPJGJL2LqV+iOGMXyTMoZDG4zz/F Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: [84attendees] Breakfast with Colas X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:41:35 -0000 I don't remember having cola/diet cola available at breakfast, at previous IETFs - perhaps I missed it? But I noticed that we have this at IETF 84, and I could NOT miss the opportunity to say "thank you for that"! It will be interesting to see what the impact on IETF process is, of course :-) Thanks, Spencer From simon.perreault@viagenie.ca Mon Jul 30 09:44:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E284011E80F9 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:44:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.535 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.535 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YzK94hWnckIF for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (unknown [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000:226:55ff:fe57:14db]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D84111E80EB for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from porto.nomis80.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:16:d4f2:dfff:aecc:1f25]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8CB3341582; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:44:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5016B9DA.80909@viagenie.ca> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:44:10 -0700 From: Simon Perreault User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 84attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Xiaohong Deng , Daniel Migault Subject: [84attendees] Hiking Friday afternoon X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:44:13 -0000 Hi, Three of us (Xiaohong Deng, Daniel Migault, myself) are going hiking on Friday afternoon. We will rent a car. We'd like to have 1-2 hiking buddies join us. If interested, reply to us privately. Simon -- DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca From sob@harvard.edu Mon Jul 30 09:44:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B6D11E811B for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:44:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RO+Z+EdGyY5j for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ackroyd.harvard.edu (ackroyd.harvard.edu [128.103.208.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C83911E8111 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exchange.university.harvard.edu (entwedge0000000.university.harvard.edu [10.35.2.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ackroyd.harvard.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09E3E8EE2; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:44:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ENTWHUBT0000000.university.harvard.edu (10.32.8.201) by ENTWEDGE0000000.university.harvard.edu (10.35.2.151) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:43:51 -0400 Received: from ENTWEXMB0000008.university.harvard.edu ([169.254.1.84]) by ENTWHUBT0000000.university.harvard.edu ([10.32.8.201]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.002; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:44:23 -0400 From: "Bradner, Scott" To: Spencer Dawkins Thread-Topic: [84attendees] Breakfast with Colas Thread-Index: AQHNbnI+c+b87iDvmE6/VR+fLtBjppdCS00A Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:44:22 +0000 Message-ID: References: <80A3637C-F6E0-488E-988A-6B2A05F346DB@amsl.com> <5016B925.4060009@wonderhamster.org> In-Reply-To: <5016B925.4060009@wonderhamster.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [136.248.127.172] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2C2046AD2C5A5C4A96785B4C3A89D182@Exchange.university.harvard.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Alexa Morris , "<84attendees@ietf.org>" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Breakfast with Colas X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:44:24 -0000 colas were available at quite a few IETF breakfasts over the years (as a co= la-for-breakfast person it made a different to me) Scott=20 On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Spencer Dawkins wrote: > I don't remember having cola/diet cola available at breakfast, at previou= s IETFs - perhaps I missed it? >=20 > But I noticed that we have this at IETF 84, and I could NOT miss the oppo= rtunity to say "thank you for that"! >=20 > It will be interesting to see what the impact on IETF process is, of cour= se :-) >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Spencer > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Mon Jul 30 09:50:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356D021F8547 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:50:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.178 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.178 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.071, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PHbmddX26Eef for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw1.ericsson.se (mailgw1.ericsson.se [193.180.251.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72AF21F851E for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:50:12 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb2d-b7f6c6d000001cc5-4e-5016bb432c87 Received: from esessmw0191.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw1.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id EB.0E.07365.34BB6105; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:50:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.21]) by esessmw0191.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.115.84]) with mapi; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:50:11 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: Ben Campbell , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:48:16 +0200 Thread-Topic: [84attendees] iPad roaming problem Thread-Index: Ac1ucIcmDVTUPc4ZQVKPrXsTI28WegAApcal Message-ID: <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A058534086835A0@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrNLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvra7zbrEAg3N/9S3m3L/AYjG/8zS7 A5PHkiU/mTxm7XzCEsAUxWWTkpqTWZZapG+XwJVx9+pstoIrbBU/Z85na2Dcx9rFyMEhIWAi 8fO5QxcjJ5ApJnHh3nq2LkYuDiGBU4wSi16dY4ZwFjBKdOzrZgJpYBOwkOj+pw3SICIQLNG5 7zcjiM0ioCrRNfE0M4gtLKAv8fNCBytEjYHEruvLmSFsI4n//x+D2bwC4RIPD50Bs4UE7CQm rLzMDmJzCthLzDixnAXEZgQ66PupNUwgNrOAuMStJ/OZIA4VkFiy5zwzhC0q8fLxP1aIelGJ O+3rGSHqdSQW7P7EBmFrSyxb+Bpqr6DEyZlPWCYwis5CMnYWkpZZSFpmIWlZwMiyilE4NzEz J73cUC+1KDO5uDg/T684dRMjMEIObvmtu4Px1DmRQ4zSHCxK4rxcSfv9hQTSE0tSs1NTC1KL 4otKc1KLDzEycXBKNTDa5SbsU1nbKaw7JVvkn4CblrJkrCzTbxfH8NzHKnIPIq9UXvuSmKSx 5IN3ieq5A4vf62zjnuwlWnps+tlZ84P3lPYUhlQ/vWt+9eK1OvYy6Sid6+IXH/9OvSoU3MJ7 5Hz6+Y64X00Nn+PbUlb/uHZj0oZ55azcV1ZERYb5J10/0ZCreCVLM1iJpTgj0VCLuag4EQD6 LjfBXgIAAA== Subject: Re: [84attendees] iPad roaming problem X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:50:14 -0000 Hi, When I arrived, it took a very long time (abour 45 minutes) before a got a = local carrier with my mobile phone. If possible, you may try to select the carrier manually, in case it would h= elp. Regards, Christer ________________________________________ From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf= Of Ben Campbell [ben@nostrum.com] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:29 PM To: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: [84attendees] iPad roaming problem Hi, Has anyone successfully roamed to a local carrier with an ATT iPad 3? I'm getting "no service", with an i18n data package, cellular data and data= roaming turned on, etc. Thanks! Ben. _______________________________________________ 84attendees mailing list 84attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees= From ben@nostrum.com Mon Jul 30 09:54:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FE921F858E for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:54:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RdmGoqEuggRz for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA34421F8568 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-625b.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-625b.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.98.91]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6UGsYMo072237 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:54:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: Ben Campbell In-Reply-To: <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A058534086835A0@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:54:34 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <887BC378-90A4-4126-9744-5B116F265EEA@nostrum.com> References: <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A058534086835A0@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> To: Christer Holmberg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 130.129.98.91 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] iPad roaming problem X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:54:42 -0000 I'm going hours without a connection. It does not offer me the carrier = selection tab in settings, so I gather it doesn't know it's roaming. On Jul 30, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Christer Holmberg = wrote: > Hi, >=20 > When I arrived, it took a very long time (abour 45 minutes) before a = got a local carrier with my mobile phone. >=20 > If possible, you may try to select the carrier manually, in case it = would help. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Christer >=20 > ________________________________________ > From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Ben Campbell [ben@nostrum.com] > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:29 PM > To: 84attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [84attendees] iPad roaming problem >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Has anyone successfully roamed to a local carrier with an ATT iPad 3? >=20 > I'm getting "no service", with an i18n data package, cellular data and = data roaming turned on, etc. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Ben. > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From versteb@cisco.com Mon Jul 30 09:54:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76C221F85AC for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:54:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DTYDpyMRleR8 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:54:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com [173.37.86.80]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC69B21F85A0 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:54:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1370; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1343667286; x=1344876886; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=6aQEU3NhkG9fWiA5hhGwmIa82eR/xrQ5v71Gurnmjzc=; b=OGgVdYjvFJ/qjEiunOSxLFK4HFQCQ8FHr15oKgj0U2h0rQ4IdfoN8KmP KhejPUJVep8NxQwdlVaDGIrag2kupHDNVxO7DAoSwERLwua/s+5cUL/FZ /5XdyECBs85/7deDy6P9Pm7CGNDff8KMvBrnCQYifIxtCEQszdwgdjqkI Q=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EAIG7FlCtJV2c/2dsb2JhbABFDrlFgQeCIAEBAQMBAQEBDwEnNAsFBwQCAQgRBAEBCxQJBycLFAkIAgQBDQUIGodlBguaYp9yBItQhilgA6NwgWaCJjk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,681,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="103689169" Received: from rcdn-core-5.cisco.com ([173.37.93.156]) by rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2012 16:54:45 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x13.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x13.cisco.com [173.36.12.87]) by rcdn-core-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6UGsji0023568 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:54:45 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x05.cisco.com ([169.254.11.49]) by xhc-aln-x13.cisco.com ([173.36.12.87]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:54:43 -0500 From: "Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)" To: "Bradner, Scott" , Spencer Dawkins Thread-Topic: [84attendees] Breakfast with Colas Thread-Index: AQHNbnI/srRy4iLCRkSznRUA9FMV6ZdCXBEA//+un4A= Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:54:42 +0000 Message-ID: References: <80A3637C-F6E0-488E-988A-6B2A05F346DB@amsl.com> <5016B925.4060009@wonderhamster.org> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.21.91.56] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19072.005 x-tm-as-result: No--35.592400-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Alexa Morris , "<84attendees@ietf.org>" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Breakfast with Colas X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:54:47 -0000 In the American Southeast, having Coke with breakfast is a long standing tr= adition. In fact, there were rumors of a new advertising campaign --- "Coca= Cola, it is not just for breakfast anymore" Bill VerSteeg -----Original Message----- From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Bradner, Scott Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 9:44 AM To: Spencer Dawkins Cc: Alexa Morris; <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Breakfast with Colas colas were available at quite a few IETF breakfasts over the years (as a co= la-for-breakfast person it made a different to me) Scott=20 On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Spencer Dawkins wrote: > I don't remember having cola/diet cola available at breakfast, at previou= s IETFs - perhaps I missed it? >=20 > But I noticed that we have this at IETF 84, and I could NOT miss the oppo= rtunity to say "thank you for that"! >=20 > It will be interesting to see what the impact on IETF process is, of cour= se :-) >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Spencer > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees _______________________________________________ 84attendees mailing list 84attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From smith@Cardiff.ac.uk Mon Jul 30 09:58:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E082B11E8156 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:58:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C-ZlTTEM1fbb for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpout2.cf.ac.uk (smtpout2.cf.ac.uk [131.251.137.139]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E2911E8150 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpauth.cf.ac.uk ([131.251.248.19]) by smtpout2.cf.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SvtIj-0003RW-VS; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:58:37 +0100 Received: from [130.129.8.190] (helo=dhcp-90be.meeting.ietf.org) by smtpauth.cf.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SvtIj-0004tK-PF; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:58:37 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Rhys Smith In-Reply-To: <5016B9DA.80909@viagenie.ca> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:58:35 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7AFE4177-35D7-47D0-B789-AE21EB04F1FA@cardiff.ac.uk> References: <5016B9DA.80909@viagenie.ca> To: Simon Perreault X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Sender: smith@Cardiff.ac.uk X-Virus-Scanned: Cardiff University Virus Scanner X-Virus-Scanned: Cardiff University Virus Scanner Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org, Xiaohong Deng , Daniel Migault Subject: Re: [84attendees] Hiking Friday afternoon X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:58:43 -0000 If you want to challenge yourself, try = http://www.grousemountain.com/grousegrind/ - did it yesterday; my legs = have almost recovered... -- Dr Rhys Smith Identity, Access, and Middleware Specialist Cardiff University & Janet - the UK's research and education network email: smith@cardiff.ac.uk / rhys.smith@ja.net GPG: 0xDE2F024C On 30 Jul 2012, at 09:44, Simon Perreault wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Three of us (Xiaohong Deng, Daniel Migault, myself) are going hiking = on Friday afternoon. We will rent a car. We'd like to have 1-2 hiking = buddies join us. If interested, reply to us privately. >=20 > Simon > --=20 > DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca > NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca > STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Mon Jul 30 09:59:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B788E11E815B for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:59:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.179 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.179 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.070, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WgDUPv7raxUK for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw2.ericsson.se (mailgw2.ericsson.se [193.180.251.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D54C11E814F for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:59:11 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb25-b7fb66d000003bb6-dd-5016bd5ea667 Received: from esessmw0191.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw2.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 6F.6B.15286.E5DB6105; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:59:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.21]) by esessmw0191.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.115.84]) with mapi; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:59:10 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: Ben Campbell Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:58:28 +0200 Thread-Topic: [84attendees] iPad roaming problem Thread-Index: Ac1udAMCb+TpeEmRSMmTbI1DYnEXzQAAIeZH Message-ID: <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A058534086835A2@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> References: <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A058534086835A0@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se>, <887BC378-90A4-4126-9744-5B116F265EEA@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <887BC378-90A4-4126-9744-5B116F265EEA@nostrum.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrOLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+JvrW78XrEAg/N/eCzm3L/AYjG/8zS7 A5PHkiU/mTxm7XzCEsAUxWWTkpqTWZZapG+XwJWxfMcX1oJfnBUXXvQwNjD+Ye9i5OSQEDCR +NuxnQ3CFpO4cG89kM3FISRwilHi8ZV2FghnAaPE87nPmLoYOTjYBCwkuv9pgzSICChJPG/e ygJiMwsYSlw/eRXMZhFQlfiw7ybYUGEBfYmfFzpYIeoNJHZdX84MMkZEwEji+TsLkDCvQLjE 1qPfWCFW7WeU+PjuGwtIDaeAvcTSS3kgNYxAt30/tYYJYpW4xK0n85kgbhaQWLLnPDOELSrx 8vE/Voh6UYk77esZIep1JBbs/sQGYWtLLFv4mhlir6DEyZlPWCYwis1CMnYWkpZZSFpmIWlZ wMiyilE4NzEzJ73cSC+1KDO5uDg/T684dRMjMHIObvmtuoPxzjmRQ4zSHCxK4rzWW/f4Cwmk J5akZqemFqQWxReV5qQWH2Jk4uCUamCcXcAuX35t00odj3er/qu9TvzsbJXuPi8r9GrLzqsn b1/onysdc2vBSisx8/rg3E93dJ13B7IXRf5enWRxdO36LRxLv67ek3Gw1O0+v/m/j/6q4Ud+ +V+K3f3GXYnvmMh50ywbBZ4WkaPX3DQvTGRz4P1ecLK91++DbKLvLO4FEmflf61/vjZCiaU4 I9FQi7moOBEAgM0nZGoCAAA= Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] iPad roaming problem X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:59:17 -0000 >I'm going hours without a connection. It does not offer me the carrier sel= ection tab in settings, so I >gather it doesn't know it's roaming. The funny thing is that data DID work for me, but I was not able to make ph= one calls or send SMS. Regards, Christer On Jul 30, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote: > Hi, > > When I arrived, it took a very long time (abour 45 minutes) before a got = a local carrier with my mobile phone. > > If possible, you may try to select the carrier manually, in case it would= help. > > Regards, > > Christer > > ________________________________________ > From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Beha= lf Of Ben Campbell [ben@nostrum.com] > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:29 PM > To: 84attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [84attendees] iPad roaming problem > > Hi, > > Has anyone successfully roamed to a local carrier with an ATT iPad 3? > > I'm getting "no service", with an i18n data package, cellular data and da= ta roaming turned on, etc. > > Thanks! > > Ben. > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees= From simon.perreault@viagenie.ca Mon Jul 30 10:03:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B394821F865C for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:03:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.537 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.537 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mvPgB7f6sdMu for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (unknown [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000:226:55ff:fe57:14db]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0932E21F85C4 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from porto.nomis80.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:16:d4f2:dfff:aecc:1f25]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 363FF41582; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5016BE67.1000100@viagenie.ca> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:03:35 -0700 From: Simon Perreault User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rhys Smith References: <5016B9DA.80909@viagenie.ca> <7AFE4177-35D7-47D0-B789-AE21EB04F1FA@cardiff.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <7AFE4177-35D7-47D0-B789-AE21EB04F1FA@cardiff.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org, Xiaohong Deng , Daniel Migault Subject: Re: [84attendees] Hiking Friday afternoon X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:03:37 -0000 Le 2012-07-30 09:58, Rhys Smith a écrit : > If you want to challenge yourself, try http://www.grousemountain.com/grousegrind/ - did it yesterday; my legs have almost recovered... Thanks for the suggestion! We were looking at Grouse mountain actually, so we might try that... Simon -- DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca From phil.hunt@oracle.com Mon Jul 30 10:08:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD16B21F8589 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:08:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.286 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.286 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.313, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gAH1Tui23GbR for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E861721F8577 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q6UH89eb008722 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:08:10 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6UH886A027382 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:08:09 GMT Received: from abhmt102.oracle.com (abhmt102.oracle.com [141.146.116.54]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q6UH88PE028440; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:08:08 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.8] (/174.7.250.104) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:08:08 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Phil Hunt In-Reply-To: <5016BE67.1000100@viagenie.ca> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:08:06 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1DD5F42D-1B98-47B0-B7BF-341BF91CCFAB@oracle.com> References: <5016B9DA.80909@viagenie.ca> <7AFE4177-35D7-47D0-B789-AE21EB04F1FA@cardiff.ac.uk> <5016BE67.1000100@viagenie.ca> To: Simon Perreault X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] Cc: Rhys Smith , 84attendees@ietf.org, Xiaohong Deng , Daniel Migault Subject: Re: [84attendees] Hiking Friday afternoon X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:08:22 -0000 I can't make it, but can recommend this... http://www.trailpeak.com/trail-Stawamus-Chief-near-Squamish-BC-25 Or, if you want to go further afield (since you have cars), Whistler = Blackcomb has trails on Blackcomb open. Note: many trails on Whistler = are closed due to too much snow.=20 Whether you choose Grouse, The Chief, or Whistler, the views are great! Phil @independentid www.independentid.com phil.hunt@oracle.com On 2012-07-30, at 10:03 AM, Simon Perreault wrote: > Le 2012-07-30 09:58, Rhys Smith a =E9crit : >> If you want to challenge yourself, try = http://www.grousemountain.com/grousegrind/ - did it yesterday; my legs = have almost recovered... >=20 > Thanks for the suggestion! We were looking at Grouse mountain = actually, so we might try that... >=20 > Simon > --=20 > DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca > NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca > STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From simon.perreault@viagenie.ca Mon Jul 30 10:25:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1AA21F85F0 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:25:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.539 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.539 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.061, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ju94pa2xnEEe for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (unknown [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000:226:55ff:fe57:14db]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0890821F85ED for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from porto.nomis80.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:16:d4f2:dfff:aecc:1f25]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 729A44161B for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:25:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5016C383.4000002@viagenie.ca> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:25:23 -0700 From: Simon Perreault User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 84attendees@ietf.org References: <5016B9DA.80909@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: <5016B9DA.80909@viagenie.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [84attendees] Hiking Friday afternoon X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:25:26 -0000 Le 2012-07-30 09:44, Simon Perreault a écrit : > Three of us (Xiaohong Deng, Daniel Migault, myself) are going hiking on > Friday afternoon. We will rent a car. We'd like to have 1-2 hiking > buddies join us. If interested, reply to us privately. We have found our buddies! Thanks for the avalance of email... I forgot to say that potential hiking buddies would be judged based on their running-away-from-bears speed. The slower the better. For our safety. Sorry to all the svelte marathon runners who have replied. ;) Simon -- DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca From richard.barnes@gmail.com Mon Jul 30 10:26:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEE021F85FC for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:26:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7O+wVpdX++y9 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9693C11E8165 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lagv3 with SMTP id v3so3693946lag.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:26:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=zA0AAdsOLWC/yAQSAN74tTItStNpG5m/lWhf26IqZfk=; b=YLg/BDaI2IytGqSja6GFnroxlokpWJ6oL1A3UOsaqlyF+PDltNA3ke26XTBxla5Xam P31aREzbTjdksynel/XxOkVgYUwCorny46rQNLQKI8eLmt4wDYJ89jY8sd+ihlmtg6g/ QnBN8KNEBln1dp1h4hiMIwh3+zqX2CyQt4PHkyH5C1tl/G0Ovy6/YG0GxMCzArXmWoPo UoP7H0YXK24tn+XotuZ8A3vHPJsTH12nJpyQ8uITx85GrRG6JBUzELzZFtfwOhaR6vlq sBq2M4Ojzo5tZYFo8IoQKk3wIduLM/VMwZTIlXH7htPWG4iYUd0VzrJ94hDDOyg70H1J obSA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.46.198 with SMTP id x6mr5732900lbm.19.1343669198404; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:26:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.74.82 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:26:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <80A3637C-F6E0-488E-988A-6B2A05F346DB@amsl.com> <5016B925.4060009@wonderhamster.org> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:26:38 -0700 Message-ID: From: Richard Barnes To: "Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Alexa Morris , "<84attendees@ietf.org>" <84attendees@ietf.org>, "Bradner, Scott" , Spencer Dawkins Subject: Re: [84attendees] Breakfast with Colas X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:26:40 -0000 I can only imagine the bounty we will have in Atlanta next time! On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Bill Ver Steeg (versteb) wrote: > In the American Southeast, having Coke with breakfast is a long standing tradition. In fact, there were rumors of a new advertising campaign --- "Coca Cola, it is not just for breakfast anymore" > > Bill VerSteeg > > -----Original Message----- > From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bradner, Scott > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 9:44 AM > To: Spencer Dawkins > Cc: Alexa Morris; <84attendees@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: [84attendees] Breakfast with Colas > > colas were available at quite a few IETF breakfasts over the years (as a cola-for-breakfast person > it made a different to me) > > Scott > > On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Spencer Dawkins wrote: > >> I don't remember having cola/diet cola available at breakfast, at previous IETFs - perhaps I missed it? >> >> But I noticed that we have this at IETF 84, and I could NOT miss the opportunity to say "thank you for that"! >> >> It will be interesting to see what the impact on IETF process is, of course :-) >> >> Thanks, >> >> Spencer >> _______________________________________________ >> 84attendees mailing list >> 84attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From asa.hardcastle@gmail.com Mon Jul 30 10:35:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD01B11E8123 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:35:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fHgC9+l4kBKl for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B8311E80AE for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pbcwy7 with SMTP id wy7so10123414pbc.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:35:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=JwP2zhPXwYhtUObd0XLQYlMt7PycZoLEhAbjnMg7cWU=; b=REGBtRQFo+brRKleTRDXF6lIWs5GArFQoLVRA3fybGfZqlFVEjNkvtRmfPAfra0kGW Ze/P/JbmhyqCWIgKOs3chLeRPjPk2EVFAZUXzg150+O/eWQwfUb60yLb6iE5pGRzd6XX WBAQK9fucZc5RAKIqDZ83S3w1dXQ5tLb2G1AKLV7tTXJixtV7F8rcT1ZHtPOKa7dSv/k SVZ5/3iW2Rt9XZtQv3R0pwxSi9NtWjxRsso2JvVoJubPTMYBc+zyb3n+iQIMFMW6l7Bg KyFBxp7g0GvjUtvH+hDQzimM5RZuoPw1Uq1Nbcur5cBE0YxuDFYk2pewqpF+IlCcvV4V E3pg== Received: by 10.68.231.39 with SMTP id td7mr37174482pbc.3.1343669730752; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-16c4.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-16c4.meeting.ietf.org. [130.129.22.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hw6sm8290172pbc.73.2012.07.30.10.35.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: Asa Hardcastle In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:35:28 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <50101C78.5080006@danwing.org> <0283EA94-4F08-4EBB-A5DF-C61050AE10C4@danwing.org> To: Randy Bush X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Cc: Dan Wing , attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:35:31 -0000 Revolver is open and excellent. Asa On Jul 28, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> Revolver is closed today... > > i know. we went to jj bean. close. tolerable. but ... > > randy From spencer@wonderhamster.org Mon Jul 30 10:35:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951FE11E818E for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:35:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OpTAyXajAgVc for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AD411E818D for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.129.36.176] (dhcp-24b0.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.36.176]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MIMcx-1SwjMN1gIJ-003m0j; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:35:35 -0400 Message-ID: <5016C5D9.9090802@wonderhamster.org> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:35:21 -0500 From: Spencer Dawkins User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bradner, Scott" References: <80A3637C-F6E0-488E-988A-6B2A05F346DB@amsl.com> <5016B925.4060009@wonderhamster.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:p42OWbBvMmAmwBzqVoOiUc2QEvJFwIMWNGm1BhV55U1 e+gpBa2c+DAFPrf3nOHkIXPqOXsT6fmkUM8OlGATypXl15wm9q Mf5uTGOmJpbKH61m3NAM06k1Uobj3CoF4lsIWpnepIlivFTDXW fjrt/8XgG7bPfYoOj2RMc0gHvXBCH7bxj6AjZEzGQ8hy5YPNPQ j07cQLkHP3rSJ49cUnUiWLah79z643i6ncq4DuFGi+MZ7axp0Y E/aZAgCB0d0ublr0nHU4mxqtQRyyixG0XqXryw8k1dJrYUo0FE Bxwy+Znzc02BJOqN36CsYCItAZ92aZLpDD3T6NArajJ2zxM5Yt KErWdPUrHOWDp6wjraYeJMeRpGatQtPT17TFfa/g/ Cc: Alexa Morris , "<84attendees@ietf.org>" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Breakfast with Colas X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:35:36 -0000 On 7/30/2012 11:44 AM, Bradner, Scott wrote: > colas were available at quite a few IETF breakfasts over the years (as a cola-for-breakfast person > it made a different to me) > > Scott I forgot this completely - which just tells you how badly I needed colas in the morning! Spencer > On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Spencer Dawkins wrote: > >> I don't remember having cola/diet cola available at breakfast, at previous IETFs - perhaps I missed it? >> >> But I noticed that we have this at IETF 84, and I could NOT miss the opportunity to say "thank you for that"! >> >> It will be interesting to see what the impact on IETF process is, of course :-) >> >> Thanks, >> >> Spencer >> _______________________________________________ >> 84attendees mailing list >> 84attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > From ondrej.sury@nic.cz Mon Jul 30 10:46:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5168421F8663 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:46:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.955 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.955 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.744, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_23=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ab0XyLK69RtS for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.nic.cz (mail.nic.cz [IPv6:2001:1488:800:400::400]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC2621F8661 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-63b8.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-63b8.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.99.184]) by mail.nic.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B32A313FDFA for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:46:35 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nic.cz; s=default; t=1343670396; bh=SeCQAATVzuszR3FoDCLdjVbQwkM78fVd9ZbFWn9HHLY=; h=From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Subject:Message-Id: Date:To:Mime-Version; b=k9DDMo2zuA9IXoZiMt5uHssj/JgiY0184+jNPMq2jNPyGbNWabQk948MoGSyptTO6 mJh1jvhApV2fET1pzzySbWYR8m3T1QnOPJIJTYdwWabd9hBoMWyirrv/ZR18F2BoKq Hpq0AoHF367pyQAIoLify9YnydgIcQRgFFeLZy6k= From: =?utf-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_Sur=C3=BD?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:46:27 -0700 To: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: [84attendees] Whale Watching on Friday X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:46:41 -0000 Hi, I plan to go whalewatching on Friday (Zodiacs, not the big boat), any = tips for a good company, which provides the service? Googling 'whale = watching vancouver' pops up several choice[1], so a recommendation would = be welcomed. Also if you want to join, mail me privately. O. 1. http://www.vancouverwhalewatch.com/ seems to be nice and operates = shuttles from downtown Vancouver. -- Ond=C5=99ej Sur=C3=BD -- Chief Science Officer ------------------------------------------- CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. -- Laborato=C5=99e CZ.NIC Americka 23, 120 00 Praha 2, Czech Republic mailto:ondrej.sury@nic.cz http://nic.cz/ tel:+420.222745110 fax:+420.222745112 ------------------------------------------- From jmpolk@cisco.com Mon Jul 30 11:12:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294F121F851C for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:12:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.506 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.506 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.093, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uORVg+C3Vq99 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:12:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-3.cisco.com (mtv-iport-3.cisco.com [173.36.130.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E9A21F8512 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:12:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=jmpolk@cisco.com; l=1477; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1343671952; x=1344881552; h=message-id:date:to:from:subject:cc:in-reply-to: references:mime-version; bh=JkIpNz/7LfViDS86C/eCZRp/o3S6CGQYvHboUJgOXqw=; b=nB7mW27ThxtEZVlD5E53tsTlY1pkA57w9Jmt+EG7cVhQxSRvQZZv9fmG or6qxSfesPNhn2465EftTnJYRmEcfmsCiLfzUJJBFfIeg8/UN6OtlZuJb CbOJey/F9vwpRGFbRHdBRRk2Eq+UnQFiNaJ5MjTbo5rSOsb2/yTiChqkN M=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABTOFlCrRDoI/2dsb2JhbABFDrlFgQeCIAEBAQQBAQEPASUCNAsQBwQYHhAZDjAGEyKHagyaZZ9+BItQFIZ1A4hNmyOBZoImV4E4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,681,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="50984677" Received: from mtv-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.58.8]) by mtv-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2012 18:12:31 +0000 Received: from jmpolk-WS.cisco.com ([10.21.166.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by mtv-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6UICUCc005053 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:12:30 GMT Message-Id: <201207301812.q6UICUCc005053@mtv-core-3.cisco.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:12:30 -0500 To: Spencer Dawkins , "Bradner, Scott" From: James Polk In-Reply-To: <5016C5D9.9090802@wonderhamster.org> References: <80A3637C-F6E0-488E-988A-6B2A05F346DB@amsl.com> <5016B925.4060009@wonderhamster.org> <5016C5D9.9090802@wonderhamster.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Authenticated-User: jmpolk Cc: Alexa Morris , "<84attendees@ietf.org>" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Breakfast with Colas X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:12:33 -0000 At 12:35 PM 7/30/2012, Spencer Dawkins wrote: >On 7/30/2012 11:44 AM, Bradner, Scott wrote: >>colas were available at quite a few IETF breakfasts over the years >>(as a cola-for-breakfast person >>it made a different to me) >> >>Scott > >I forgot this completely - which just tells you how badly I needed >colas in the morning! Prague (limited number) and Stockholm (loads) both had DCs, but I don't believe any others had them within the last 10 or so years. I definitely notice this (as I sit here with my purchased DC in CLUE). James >Spencer > >>On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Spencer Dawkins wrote: >> >>>I don't remember having cola/diet cola available at breakfast, at >>>previous IETFs - perhaps I missed it? >>> >>>But I noticed that we have this at IETF 84, and I could NOT miss >>>the opportunity to say "thank you for that"! >>> >>>It will be interesting to see what the impact on IETF process is, >>>of course :-) >>> >>>Thanks, >>> >>>Spencer >>>_______________________________________________ >>>84attendees mailing list >>>84attendees@ietf.org >>>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees >> >>_______________________________________________ >>84attendees mailing list >>84attendees@ietf.org >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > >_______________________________________________ >84attendees mailing list >84attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From wassim.haddad@ericsson.com Mon Jul 30 11:26:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7561621F869A for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:26:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.698, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5VV0sRtT3e25 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr3.ericy.com (imr3.ericy.com [198.24.6.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A90A21F869F for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) by imr3.ericy.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6UIPvdx015055 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:26:02 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0703.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.135]) by eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) with mapi; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:25:57 -0400 From: Wassim Haddad To: Dan Wing Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:26:08 -0400 Thread-Topic: [84attendees] coffee Thread-Index: Ac1ugMK1mFQ2hQoDQ1+FBGskGXCEQQ== Message-ID: <5A6C16B3-5D5E-4E9B-AC5D-68CAF941D8D5@ericsson.com> References: <50101C78.5080006@danwing.org> <0283EA94-4F08-4EBB-A5DF-C61050AE10C4@danwing.org> In-Reply-To: <0283EA94-4F08-4EBB-A5DF-C61050AE10C4@danwing.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-19A9B4EB-D8C8-4BAF-8010-28AC90620EB7"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Randy Bush , attendees <84attendees@ietf.org>, Wassim Haddad Subject: Re: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:26:05 -0000 --Apple-Mail-19A9B4EB-D8C8-4BAF-8010-28AC90620EB7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cafe Artigiano might be a good compromise and is less than 5 min walk from H= yatt hotel. Wassim H. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2012, at 0:24, "Dan Wing" wrote: > A list from the guy who started coffeegeek.com and lives in Vancouver, > https://plus.google.com/u/0/100909546646242432417/posts/apVUQbfRqPZ >=20 > I haven't mapped them yet to see which are near-ish the venue.=20 >=20 > -d >=20 > On Jul 25, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Dan Wing wrote: >=20 >> On 7/25/2012 8:59 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >>> revolver coffee turns out not to open until >>> 08:00. this is a very serious problem for us early risers. >>=20 >> Sexy place. >>=20 >>> is there a nearby second best? >>=20 >> I haven't visited, but I see that http://www.jjbeancoffee.com/cafes has s= everal locations within a few blocks, >> 740 Hamilton St., Weekdays: 7:30am-4:00pm, Closed on weekends & holidays >> 146 W. Cordova St., Monday-Friday 7am-7pm, Weekends 8am-5pm >> 1188 Alberni St., Monday-Friday 6am-10pm, Weekends 7am-10pm >>=20 >> My last few visits to Vancouver Caffe Artigiano didn't make great espress= o (but does have good milk drinks), but I will point out >> http://www.espressomap.com lists three locations of Caffe Artigiano >> nearby, closest is 763 Hornby St, 300m away. 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A little too bitter for my taste :) Paul From randy@psg.com Mon Jul 30 11:34:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD00511E808E for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:34:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.224 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.224 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.375, BAYES_00=-2.599, FB_GET_MEDS=2.75] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0Yplp5OVBQRc for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9641A11E8087 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Svun0-000Mkf-Qp; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:33:58 +0000 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:33:58 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Paul Wouters In-Reply-To: References: <50101C78.5080006@danwing.org> <0283EA94-4F08-4EBB-A5DF-C61050AE10C4@danwing.org> <5A6C16B3-5D5E-4E9B-AC5D-68CAF941D8D5@ericsson.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Wassim Haddad , attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:34:04 -0000 >> Cafe Artigiano might be a good compromise and is less than 5 min walk >> from Hyatt hotel. while indeed it might, i felt that it did not succeed. > A little too bitter for my taste :) jj bean, two blocks away, order medium roast. i found them quite acceptable. randy From j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de Mon Jul 30 11:50:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0660321F85D4; 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Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:50:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.jacobs.jacobs-university.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124A920BDE; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:50:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 8B41420FAD8C; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:50:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:50:00 +0200 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: attendees <84attendees@ietf.org>, NETCONF , NETMOD Working Group Message-ID: <20120730185000.GB76317@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: attendees <84attendees@ietf.org>, NETCONF , NETMOD Working Group References: <501327B2.6040208@cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <501327B2.6040208@cisco.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [84attendees] [Netconf] Network Configuration Management with NETCONF and YANG Tutorial this Sunday X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:50:04 -0000 On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 04:43:46PM -0700, Benoit Claise wrote: > Dear all, > > The "NETCONF and YANG" tutorial was added late to the agenda. > So if you registered early, maybe you missed this tutorial announcement. > Hence this email: > 1300-1450 Network Configuration Management with NETCONF and YANG > Tutorial - Regency E > Since the slides are not on any IETF web pages yet, I have put them up for download here: http://cnds.eecs.jacobs-university.de/slides/2012-ietf-84-netconf-yang.pdf /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From ondrej.sury@nic.cz Mon Jul 30 12:37:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3112711E81C9 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To; b=O6CRsU1m0TAlg2nZAGHyb1HjYhyx0irFOVieDNYKQU4bqzXZZeuIVJ4iTv0nCNKn3 ZwaQM2f/MPcRAaM9mfk2QTVqOWfk6WcpQIF4quDCLBbKNd5r8/QzJZZA857HoIv8rE Z+9GYFh/SfFdHAb2Gm8tNcfQKGlLv0FK3cdoIklM= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: =?utf-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_Sur=C3=BD?= In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:37:45 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <314DEEF8-BBF6-4CB8-B7E4-C262999B67F2@nic.cz> References: To: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [84attendees] Whale Watching on Friday X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:37:52 -0000 Created wikipage: = http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/whale_watching and doodle poll: http://www.doodle.com/viwr43gy9mbdcvkf We don't have to go en masse, so take the Doodle poll only as an = indication of people who might go together. O. On 30. 7. 2012, at 10:46, Ond=C5=99ej Sur=C3=BD = wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I plan to go whalewatching on Friday (Zodiacs, not the big boat), any = tips for a good company, which provides the service? Googling 'whale = watching vancouver' pops up several choice[1], so a recommendation would = be welcomed. >=20 > Also if you want to join, mail me privately. >=20 > O. > 1. http://www.vancouverwhalewatch.com/ seems to be nice and operates = shuttles from downtown Vancouver. > -- > Ond=C5=99ej Sur=C3=BD -- Chief Science Officer > ------------------------------------------- > CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. -- Laborato=C5=99e CZ.NIC > Americka 23, 120 00 Praha 2, Czech Republic > mailto:ondrej.sury@nic.cz http://nic.cz/ > tel:+420.222745110 fax:+420.222745112 > ------------------------------------------- >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees -- Ond=C5=99ej Sur=C3=BD -- Chief Science Officer ------------------------------------------- CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. -- Laborato=C5=99e CZ.NIC Americka 23, 120 00 Praha 2, Czech Republic mailto:ondrej.sury@nic.cz http://nic.cz/ tel:+420.222745110 fax:+420.222745112 ------------------------------------------- From peter@akayla.com Mon Jul 30 14:03:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DE111E81BB for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:03:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uT+26TfKpgqE for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p3plsmtpa07-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.231]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C82D11E818E for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12097 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2012 21:03:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (130.129.16.222) by p3plsmtpa07-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.192.231) with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2012 21:03:54 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:03:56 -0700 From: Peter Yee To: Jamal Hadi Salim Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [84attendees] Final suggestions on Sim cards WAS(Sim cards) In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Final suggestions on Sim cards WAS(Sim cards) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:03:57 -0000 Telus doesn't offer pre-paid plans for data only according to shop on Robson Street. The link given below is for post-paid plans. For a post-paid plan that would cover the week, they wanted $10 for the SIM, $35 activation fee, and then $5-$20 depending on how much data was used this week. I think I'll just drag my iPad around to free Wi-Fi hot spots. -Peter On 7/29/12 8:56 AM, "Jamal Hadi Salim" wrote: >On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tim Bray wrote: >> I'm a local, typing this on an HSPA phone with one of the Telus SIMs. >>If you >> can find one of those, it's a good deal. Not just CDMA. > >Good info. So it seems even Bell is now offering HSPA SIM cards. >For Telus, the $35 plan here: >http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/data_add_ons/add_ons.shtml?INTCMP=ILCq4 >srves5 >SIM card is $10. >I didnt walk into a store to verify this, so not sure what other >thievery goes on. > >So Telus is a winner if you want to do data and think you'll end up in >the 100s of MB. > >cheers, >jamal > > >> On Jul 29, 2012 6:39 AM, "Jamal Hadi Salim" wrote: >>> >>> The feature being used as a reference point here is: Price >>> >>> 1) Voice+text: >>> >>> So i am finding out more about env variable effects: >>> >>> a) if you are going to be mostly receiving. Example, >>> some folks get calls from people in areas where >>> it is free to call Canada or it is cheaper than what the mobile >>> company charges. i.e. you signal them via txt or otherwise >>> they call then you talk for an hour at a time. In such a case >>> go with Rogers (thanks to Michael StJohns for making me >>> look closer at Rogers. >>> You pay $10 for the Sim card + buy the $1/day plan (at $20). >>> My understanding is unlike the Fido plan, Rogers thievery is >>> hidden in the $20 you purchase. There is some fee which >>> is worth about $10 that comes off your $20. If you consider >>> free nights and free all you can talk today (sunday), then this >>> $30+tax should last you a week easy. >>> Remember call out is 30c/min and txt out is 20c/min. >>> incoming calls and txt free >>> >>> b) If you are going to be making calls and receiving calls, >>> after 6pm Vancouver time, go with Rogers $1/day plan >>> >>> c) If you are going to make and receive calls during the >>> day, go with 7eleven (total cost of $30 +tax for 400 minutes) >>> >>> 2) If you are going to be doing some data + go with >>> Wind. >>> $25 for the SIM card. >>> $5 for 50M data. >>> $1/M additional 10M. >>> >>> I heard Telus mentioned and the $30G data plan looked appealing >>> but didnt look at them because i think they do CDMA. >>> >>> cheers, >>> jamal >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 84attendees mailing list >>> 84attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees >_______________________________________________ >84attendees mailing list >84attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > From smb@cs.columbia.edu Mon Jul 30 14:42:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E114711E818C for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:42:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kw2d0ncu+SqN for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paneer.cc.columbia.edu (paneer.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2028A11E8101 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.9.0.26] (fireball.cs.columbia.edu [128.59.13.10]) (user=smb2132 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by paneer.cc.columbia.edu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6ULg2oC019174 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:42:03 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Steven Bellovin In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:42:01 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <50101C78.5080006@danwing.org> <0283EA94-4F08-4EBB-A5DF-C61050AE10C4@danwing.org> To: Asa Hardcastle X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 128.59.29.4 Cc: Randy Bush , Dan Wing , attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:42:10 -0000 I'm geeking out too much; I read that as "resolver". Now back to figuring out -- remotely -- why the Macs in my house are pointing to the wrong DNS servers... On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Asa Hardcastle wrote: > Revolver is open and excellent. > Asa > > On Jul 28, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > >>> Revolver is closed today... >> >> i know. we went to jj bean. close. tolerable. but ... >> >> randy > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb From randy@psg.com Mon Jul 30 14:45:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75F211E819A for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:45:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.493 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.493 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.106, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qbuo2KbbbHJb for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E17F11E80F6 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Svxm6-000NDA-EB; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:45:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:45:14 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Steven Bellovin In-Reply-To: References: <50101C78.5080006@danwing.org> <0283EA94-4F08-4EBB-A5DF-C61050AE10C4@danwing.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Asa Hardcastle , Dan Wing , attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:45:23 -0000 > Now back to figuring out -- remotely -- why the Macs in my house are > pointing to the wrong DNS servers... there are no right dns servers From ietf84@net-principles.com Mon Jul 30 14:50:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A1A11E81C0 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:50:38 -0400 Message-ID: <501701AE.8090907@net-principles.com> X-Barracuda-RBL-Trusted-Forwarder: 64.57.176.20 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:50:38 -0400 From: Miles McCredie Organization: Very Little User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100228 Thunderbird/2.0.0.24 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Yee References: X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [84attendees] Final suggestions on Sim cards WAS(Sim cards) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Barracuda-Connect: emerald.lightlink.com[64.57.176.19] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1343685041 X-Barracuda-URL: http://spam2.lightlink.com:80/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at lightlink.com X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=5.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.104216 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org, Jamal Hadi Salim Subject: Re: [84attendees] Final suggestions on Sim cards WAS(Sim cards) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf84@net-principles.com List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:50:52 -0000 On 7/30/12 17:03 , Peter Yee wrote: > Telus doesn't offer pre-paid plans for data only according to > shop on Robson Street. It is possible to add data service to a pre-paid plan. $10 for 100MB, $25 for 500MB or $30 for 1GB. > For a post-paid plan that would cover the week, they > wanted $10 for the SIM, $35 activation fee, and then $5-$20 > depending on how much data was used this week. I think I'll > just drag my iPad around to free Wi-Fi hot spots. > FWIW, it should be possible to avoid activation fees for both pre- and post-paid service by activating the service online. The online activation wasn't working for me last night but the agent I talked to waived the fee. HTH -Miles From richard.barnes@gmail.com Mon Jul 30 15:49:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03CF21F85FF for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:49:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SpQKMt63zB9k for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476BC21F85D8 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lagv3 with SMTP id v3so3846612lag.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:49:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=zrrdThVztm8To5OLJZaET+V6sL5CWcqQLn7V4jc4NOk=; b=0laR2ZUwz8b/8eF1rTcfjHdXXgUvSI2WHS2GA46dcTD1HSUl0TZ7NnV/3ByLxb4pjQ KI14M0eRm3xDK95CF0rCtGASYsaGjVKEtDtUIm7XbCQVwBeuR7a3BJ2KIf+9J2Pp+ylH e+lgXtCV4aZjWg/+DEzB9ymqqlqkSZwQUMDU6SqGEvPQJ5irULkujzEtEO38mx9QpC7Z VXOe/T3q+A7vSCNMuCvyTBJLrDjpdYDAZyHJd1Xd0rAaCHAWBGh7rFr/WrB9VWFsLl6M EMHX8uLB6nhJxVo0AzqqZxrlFosUvT1Y4xBP42IigjhHYMRaHt7bbYJf0w7GR6ma2hsb pkpA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.86.105 with SMTP id o9mr5920677lbz.32.1343688550249; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.74.82 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:49:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <50101C78.5080006@danwing.org> <0283EA94-4F08-4EBB-A5DF-C61050AE10C4@danwing.org> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:49:10 -0700 Message-ID: From: Richard Barnes To: Randy Bush Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Asa Hardcastle , Dan Wing , attendees <84attendees@ietf.org>, Steven Bellovin Subject: Re: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:49:12 -0000 These are not the DNS servers you're looking for. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> Now back to figuring out -- remotely -- why the Macs in my house are >> pointing to the wrong DNS servers... > > there are no right dns servers > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From smb@cs.columbia.edu Mon Jul 30 15:58:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF6021F861F for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:58:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ooFLqj6UyZy8 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paneer.cc.columbia.edu (paneer.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6212221F861B for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.9.0.26] (fireball.cs.columbia.edu [128.59.13.10]) (user=smb2132 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by paneer.cc.columbia.edu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6UMw4DV029941 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:58:05 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Steven Bellovin In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:58:04 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <50101C78.5080006@danwing.org> <0283EA94-4F08-4EBB-A5DF-C61050AE10C4@danwing.org> To: Richard Barnes X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 128.59.29.4 Cc: Randy Bush , Asa Hardcastle , Dan Wing , attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:58:09 -0000 Fortunately, IPv6 let me log in to those machines directly from here; equally fortunately, on Macs there's a way to correct such things from the command line. And why it was wrong in the first place? Well, I'm busy building an X-based browser on a NetBSD machine to let me log into the cable modem/NAT box. I suspect a bad DHCP response; I just don't yet know why. On Jul 30, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Richard Barnes wrote: > These are not the DNS servers you're looking for. > > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >>> Now back to figuring out -- remotely -- why the Macs in my house are >>> pointing to the wrong DNS servers... >> >> there are no right dns servers >> _______________________________________________ >> 84attendees mailing list >> 84attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb From tbray@textuality.com Mon Jul 30 16:16:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8F511E80D5 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:16:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.018 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.018 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.042, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nhTZP0-DCvYt for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-f172.google.com (mail-vc0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3862111E809A for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vcbfo14 with SMTP id fo14so5493473vcb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:16:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=y/xI6/Rw+uOTTV1WiCyEn60fyX1O8fLGa38FTWXDTuA=; b=R3dts4gv+yE5ZbOhyKy1vb9Jik37ev7vXNvf3Df44uxbZ5y5GfzCRGHWc3oCCxHcoO DJ5i7VEMta5Cf+s9OiOh7UcqEdx3qxXD96BgnGLIFZ8KFMra0Bhxn/oZLSgq70jPi8kG 9GWkDMQm0tijeZBDN7i2sHzHL3w5t2yn2Isj9fOqfDZXpKkZqHRI/gN883hvtAwhtKuy ulys16255tnEzIlvlXohZZ7qQTuxuNVAm4l0uF6abxjnsVcwdXCsuSKddnRjqx2kbQWt UIRMDTrnB8rTVlUDCNBq23teXLBSzT11mlH2TZolhFbrZViTUML0DD3JrD+mZeeum7f5 uwgQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.25.70 with SMTP id a6mr11058154vdg.78.1343690177587; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.113.162 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:16:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [24.84.208.217] Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:16:17 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Bray To: 84attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3079bddab928d704c6143f3f X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnEBCgRnpDNjFAGP4UKCSlzjBITbEdLPdB8jmoBZNdd45fEZaxNJJwBKbHm7jGKeEg9OXqA Subject: [84attendees] V6 @Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:16:18 -0000 --20cf3079bddab928d704c6143f3f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I connected my reasonably-modern 10.7 Mac to the V6 WiFi at the meeting today, and very little worked. Should I be surprised? -T --20cf3079bddab928d704c6143f3f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I connected my reasonably-modern 10.7 Mac to the V6 WiFi at the meeting tod= ay, and very little worked. =A0Should I be surprised?

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--20cf3079bddab928d704c6143f3f-- From randy@psg.com Mon Jul 30 16:18:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF1C11E80D5 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:18:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.501 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.501 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.098, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dDrdqzMfHPmK for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C80211E809A for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SvzE6-000NNo-1V; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:18:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:18:13 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Tim Bray In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] V6 @Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:18:15 -0000 > I connected my reasonably-modern 10.7 Mac to the V6 WiFi at the > meeting today, and very little worked. Should I be surprised? wfm. help desk in term room is your first stop. or find our gang on 34 randy From paul@nohats.ca Mon Jul 30 16:20:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E107911E8115 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:20:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nFaaqGa+Azxh for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bofh.nohats.ca (bofh.nohats.ca [76.10.157.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BEC11E810B for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix, from userid 500) id BAEB982574; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3AD8256F; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:20:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Wouters To: Steven Bellovin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <50101C78.5080006@danwing.org> <0283EA94-4F08-4EBB-A5DF-C61050AE10C4@danwing.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (LFD 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: attendees <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] coffee X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:20:54 -0000 On Mon, 30 Jul 2012, Steven Bellovin wrote: > I'm geeking out too much; I read that as "resolver". Ohhh! I wondered why google maps could not find it. And I thought it was a funny name for a coffee place. Paul >>>> Revolver is closed today... >>> >>> i know. we went to jj bean. close. tolerable. but ... >>> >>> randy From carlos@lacnic.net Mon Jul 30 16:22:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E85411E8113 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:22:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XZ3S7PuGtwsc for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9194311E809A for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-57ef.meeting.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:80:94bf:d46b:5a76:4420]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C627308451; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:21:49 -0300 (UYT) Message-ID: <501716FF.6090203@lacnic.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:21:35 -0700 From: "Carlos M. Martinez" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Bray References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050007050806010800060903" X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-From: carlos@lacnic.net Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] V6 @Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:22:00 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050007050806010800060903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My IPv6 works just fine. I'm even getting IPv6 DNS servers on my shiny new 10.8 install. ~Carlos On 2012-07-30 4:16 PM, Tim Bray wrote: > I connected my reasonably-modern 10.7 Mac to the V6 WiFi at the > meeting today, and very little worked. Should I be surprised? > > -T > > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees --------------050007050806010800060903 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My IPv6 works just fine. I'm even getting IPv6 DNS servers on my shiny new 10.8 install.

~Carlos

On 2012-07-30 4:16 PM, Tim Bray wrote:
I connected my reasonably-modern 10.7 Mac to the V6 WiFi at the meeting today, and very little worked.  Should I be surprised?

 -T


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--------------050007050806010800060903-- From rhe@nosc.ja.net Mon Jul 30 16:23:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F153511E80DF for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:23:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 64Bed8hRGW09 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nosc.ja.net (nosc.ja.net [IPv6:2001:630:0:40::14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C3511E809A for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vpn-14.ja.net ([128.86.24.14]) by nosc.ja.net with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SvzJI-0003ki-JC; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:23:36 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Rob Evans In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:23:34 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Tim Bray X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] V6 @Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:23:41 -0000 > I connected my reasonably-modern 10.7 Mac to the V6 WiFi at the = meeting today, and very little worked. Should I be surprised? Do you mean the v6-only WiFi? Welcome to the cause... :) Rob From carlos@lacnic.net Mon Jul 30 16:29:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4656B21F8491 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:29:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.995 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.995 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.603, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZkO+8UffbDwG for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9F211E8137 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-168c.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-168c.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.22.140]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260EB308446 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:29:48 -0300 (UYT) Message-ID: <501718E8.6020104@lacnic.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:29:44 -0700 From: "Carlos M. Martinez" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 84attendees@ietf.org References: <501716FF.6090203@lacnic.net> In-Reply-To: <501716FF.6090203@lacnic.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010202040701060200050409" X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-From: carlos@lacnic.net Subject: Re: [84attendees] V6 @Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:29:59 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010202040701060200050409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, there seems to be a problem with the ietf-nat64 ssid, i'm not getting any configuration from the network. The ietf-ipv6 ssid works just fine. You can check Google and Facebook and hopefully www.lacnic.net (**grin**) but of course little else works. As a side comment, 10.8 connects to the ipv6-only network without complaining that 'there is no internet access' like 10.6 did. I don't remember having tested this on 10.7, maybe others can comment. ~Carlos On 2012-07-30 4:21 PM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: > My IPv6 works just fine. I'm even getting IPv6 DNS servers on my shiny > new 10.8 install. > > ~Carlos > > On 2012-07-30 4:16 PM, Tim Bray wrote: >> I connected my reasonably-modern 10.7 Mac to the V6 WiFi at the >> meeting today, and very little worked. Should I be surprised? >> >> -T >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 84attendees mailing list >> 84attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > > > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees --------------010202040701060200050409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well,

there seems to be a problem with the ietf-nat64 ssid, i'm not getting any configuration from the network.

The ietf-ipv6 ssid works just fine. You can check Google and Facebook and hopefully www.lacnic.net (**grin**) but of course little else works. As a side comment, 10.8 connects to the ipv6-only network without complaining that 'there is no internet access' like 10.6 did. I don't remember having tested this on 10.7, maybe others can comment.

~Carlos

On 2012-07-30 4:21 PM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote:
My IPv6 works just fine. I'm even getting IPv6 DNS servers on my shiny new 10.8 install.

~Carlos

On 2012-07-30 4:16 PM, Tim Bray wrote:
I connected my reasonably-modern 10.7 Mac to the V6 WiFi at the meeting today, and very little worked.  Should I be surprised?

 -T


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--------------010202040701060200050409-- From simon.perreault@viagenie.ca Mon Jul 30 16:34:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0CA11E8109 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:34:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.542 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.542 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.058, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id soNEigCgtpJd for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (unknown [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000:226:55ff:fe57:14db]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C6711E809A for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from porto.nomis80.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:16:d4f2:dfff:aecc:1f25]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 51BE54036B for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <501719E9.5000909@viagenie.ca> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:34:01 -0700 From: Simon Perreault User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 84attendees@ietf.org References: <501716FF.6090203@lacnic.net> <501718E8.6020104@lacnic.net> In-Reply-To: <501718E8.6020104@lacnic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [84attendees] V6 @Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:34:03 -0000 Le 2012-07-30 16:29, Carlos M. Martinez a écrit : > there seems to be a problem with the ietf-nat64 ssid, i'm not getting > any configuration from the network. I've been asked a few times already, so I'm saying it publicly: this time we (Viagénie) have *not* brought our NAT64 setup to IETF. So we have no idea what any problems might be. Simon -- DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca From aservin@lacnic.net Mon Jul 30 16:34:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6A211E811E for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:34:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H8qN8wWf6cpj for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD97511E809A for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8::112:74ba:c3f5:e7b9:9ef3] (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:112:74ba:c3f5:e7b9:9ef3]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5AF30848A; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:34:36 -0300 (UYT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_ACFE7686-4BC0-4D8D-81FF-3BB1110F0AEE" From: Arturo Servin In-Reply-To: <501718E8.6020104@lacnic.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:34:33 -0700 Message-Id: <97306182-CD80-4356-AA1F-4FD4AD224A1A@lacnic.net> References: <501716FF.6090203@lacnic.net> <501718E8.6020104@lacnic.net> To: "Carlos M. Martinez" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-From: aservin@lacnic.net Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] V6 @Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:34:45 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_ACFE7686-4BC0-4D8D-81FF-3BB1110F0AEE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 10.7 works fine with v6 only. .as =09 On 30 Jul 2012, at 16:29, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: > Well, >=20 > there seems to be a problem with the ietf-nat64 ssid, i'm not getting = any configuration from the network. >=20 > The ietf-ipv6 ssid works just fine. You can check Google and Facebook = and hopefully www.lacnic.net (**grin**) but of course little else works. = As a side comment, 10.8 connects to the ipv6-only network without = complaining that 'there is no internet access' like 10.6 did. I don't = remember having tested this on 10.7, maybe others can comment. >=20 > ~Carlos >=20 > On 2012-07-30 4:21 PM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: >> My IPv6 works just fine. I'm even getting IPv6 DNS servers on my = shiny new 10.8 install. >>=20 >> ~Carlos >>=20 >> On 2012-07-30 4:16 PM, Tim Bray wrote: >>> I connected my reasonably-modern 10.7 Mac to the V6 WiFi at the = meeting today, and very little worked. Should I be surprised? >>>=20 >>> -T >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 84attendees mailing list >>> 84attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> 84attendees mailing list >> 84attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees --Apple-Mail=_ACFE7686-4BC0-4D8D-81FF-3BB1110F0AEE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

10.7 works fine with v6 only.

.as


On 30 Jul 2012, at 16:29, Carlos M. Martinez wrote:

Well,

there seems to be a problem with the ietf-nat64 ssid, i'm not getting any configuration from the network.

The ietf-ipv6 ssid works just fine. You can check Google and Facebook and hopefully www.lacnic.net (**grin**) but of course little else works. As a side comment, 10.8 connects to the ipv6-only network without complaining that 'there is no internet access' like 10.6 did. I don't remember having tested this on 10.7, maybe others can comment.

~Carlos

On 2012-07-30 4:21 PM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote:
My IPv6 works just fine. I'm even getting IPv6 DNS servers on my shiny new 10.8 install.

~Carlos

On 2012-07-30 4:16 PM, Tim Bray wrote:
I connected my reasonably-modern 10.7 Mac to the V6 WiFi at the meeting today, and very little worked.  Should I be surprised?

 -T


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--Apple-Mail=_ACFE7686-4BC0-4D8D-81FF-3BB1110F0AEE-- From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Mon Jul 30 17:53:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B48321F8539 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:53:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OLnPswHJGIDk for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C7B21F8535 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:53:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-2066.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-2066.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.32.102]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6V01ooa090510 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:01:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) From: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: <501701AE.8090907@net-principles.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:53:01 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9BAF52EA-4E4A-45EC-AC78-7353662D5D7D@vpnc.org> References: <501701AE.8090907@net-principles.com> To: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Subject: Re: [84attendees] Final suggestions on Sim cards WAS(Sim cards) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:53:08 -0000 Probably too late to be of use but: if you go to the 7-11 to buy a $10 = SIM, it gives you no time. So, you *should* also buy the $25 top-up = right there because it is difficult to do on their web site. I had to go = to the 7-11 a second time. 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The data supports feathering in the iPhone at least. Sent from my iPhone On 2012-07-29, at 8:29 AM, Tim Bray wrote: I'm a local, typing this on an HSPA phone with one of the Telus SIMs. If you can find one of those, it's a good deal. Not just CDMA. On Jul 29, 2012 6:39 AM, "Jamal Hadi Salim" wrote: > The feature being used as a reference point here is: Price > > 1) Voice+text: > > So i am finding out more about env variable effects: > > a) if you are going to be mostly receiving. Example, > some folks get calls from people in areas where > it is free to call Canada or it is cheaper than what the mobile > company charges. i.e. you signal them via txt or otherwise > they call then you talk for an hour at a time. In such a case > go with Rogers (thanks to Michael StJohns for making me > look closer at Rogers. > You pay $10 for the Sim card + buy the $1/day plan (at $20). > My understanding is unlike the Fido plan, Rogers thievery is > hidden in the $20 you purchase. There is some fee which > is worth about $10 that comes off your $20. If you consider > free nights and free all you can talk today (sunday), then this > $30+tax should last you a week easy. > Remember call out is 30c/min and txt out is 20c/min. > incoming calls and txt free > > b) If you are going to be making calls and receiving calls, > after 6pm Vancouver time, go with Rogers $1/day plan > > c) If you are going to make and receive calls during the > day, go with 7eleven (total cost of $30 +tax for 400 minutes) > > 2) If you are going to be doing some data + go with > Wind. > $25 for the SIM card. > $5 for 50M data. > $1/M additional 10M. > > I heard Telus mentioned and the $30G data plan looked appealing > but didnt look at them because i think they do CDMA. > > cheers, > jamal > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > _______________________________________________ 84attendees mailing list 84attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees --20cf302ef79c72b06a04c615ad22 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a Telus prepaid as= well. The data supports feathering in the iPhone at least. =A0

Sent= from my iPhone

On 2012-07-29, at 8:29 AM, Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> wrote:

I'm = a local, typing this on an HSPA phone with one of the Telus SIMs. If you ca= n find one of those, it's a good deal. Not just CDMA.

On Jul 29, 2012 6:39 AM, "Jamal Hadi Salim&= quot; <hadi@mojatatu.com> wr= ote:
The feature being used as a reference point here is: Price

1) Voice+text:

So i am finding out more about env variable effects:

a) if you are going to be mostly receiving. Example,
some folks get calls from people in areas where
it is free to call Canada or it is cheaper than what the mobile
company charges. i.e. you signal them via txt or otherwise
they call then you talk for an hour at a time. In such a case
go with Rogers =A0(thanks to =A0Michael StJohns for making me
look closer at =A0Rogers.
You pay $10 for the Sim card + buy the $1/day plan (at $20).
My understanding is unlike the Fido plan, Rogers thievery is
hidden in the $20 you purchase. There is some fee which
is worth about $10 that comes off your $20. If you consider
free nights and free all you can talk today (sunday), then this
$30+tax should last you a week easy.
Remember call out is 30c/min and txt out is 20c/min.
incoming calls and txt free

b) If you are going to be making calls and receiving calls,
after 6pm Vancouver time, go with Rogers $1/day plan

c) If you are going to make and receive calls during the
day, go with 7eleven (total cost of $30 +tax for 400 minutes)

2) If you are going to be doing some data + go with
Wind.
$25 for the SIM card.
$5 for 50M data.
$1/M additional 10M.

I heard Telus mentioned and the $30G data plan looked appealing
but didnt look at them because i think they do CDMA.

cheers,
jamal
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The data supports feathering in the iPhone > at least. wait, your iphone has wings? is it drinking redbull? From mellon@fugue.com Mon Jul 30 18:10:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34DCE21F8530 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:10:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.298 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.298 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ByyvhkW-QmPv for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F3C21F84FE for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-462a.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-462a.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.70.42]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D1E962380C5D; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:10:00 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CA480B79-7DF1-42E6-8644-C002B658C2E7" From: Ted Lemon In-Reply-To: <-6877672998224318255@unknownmsgid> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:10:01 -0700 Message-Id: References: <-6877672998224318255@unknownmsgid> To: John Bradley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Tim Bray , Jamal Hadi Salim Subject: Re: [84attendees] Final suggestions on Sim cards WAS(Sim cards) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:10:02 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_CA480B79-7DF1-42E6-8644-C002B658C2E7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Jul 30, 2012, at 5:58 PM, John Bradley wrote: > I have a Telus prepaid as well. The data supports feathering in the = iPhone at least. =20 Where is the Telus kiosk? --Apple-Mail=_CA480B79-7DF1-42E6-8644-C002B658C2E7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
On Jul 30, 2012, at 5:58 PM, John Bradley wrote:
I have a Telus prepaid as well. The data supports feathering in the iPhone at least.  

Where is the Telus kiosk?

--Apple-Mail=_CA480B79-7DF1-42E6-8644-C002B658C2E7-- From ole@cisco.com Mon Jul 30 18:27:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916F411E80E4 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:27:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.184 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.184 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.185, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 738XEOEoPotP for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-2.cisco.com (mtv-iport-2.cisco.com [173.36.130.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC7D11E80CC for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:27:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=470; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1343698029; x=1344907629; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=1yhF1Sn7rrjciGl1T5XA+fnLqlLSCput5nZdn8efDEI=; b=k5V6vj0/zUbobvBIhgQY1qHUbhbJU+U0qadT10h6/Ms0ZpZ4AWMhWSX2 COJhYXmU61W29/dbYGD1W3idrCwejhmY5Q/1grirlOO7ehWj4EKDyMHnO tm01nCeVPhdxwkAZU1LyElpge27B3nhDsJuNN4ShBDL05iPNZg3IQlwiD E=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhIFABE0F1CrRDoH/2dsb2JhbABCA4UxtC+BB4IhAQEEEgECJSwBEhALRlcGEyKHapsGg0gQnGyLaINOgyEDiE2SVoUygxqBBGKCf4E/ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,681,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="53591946" Received: from mtv-core-2.cisco.com ([171.68.58.7]) by mtv-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2012 01:27:09 +0000 Received: from [10.27.1.132] (sjc-ole-8913.cisco.com [10.27.1.132]) by mtv-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6V1R8QU028164; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:27:08 GMT Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:27:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Chris Morrow In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <-6877672998224318255@unknownmsgid> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: John Bradley , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Tim Bray , Jamal Hadi Salim Subject: Re: [84attendees] Final suggestions on Sim cards WAS(Sim cards) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:27:10 -0000 I find it rather interesting that AT&T in the US only allows me to roam on Telus. I have an unlocked iPhone (legally), but there is no "Carrier" setting. I guess Canada is almost the US as far as AT&T is concerned. So much for an open market. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo From sakimura@gmail.com Mon Jul 30 18:40:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E75A11E811E for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:40:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.191 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.191 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.193, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NpI-4OKBgC1N for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f44.google.com (mail-vb0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E26D11E810F for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vbbez10 with SMTP id ez10so5639040vbb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:40:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=7JJDb7ZTA6t9CSS84A1Fo0CW6pdaJoo1k52DcMBPNtM=; b=TQMPcG5VDPelwvWfI8QQePRTZwVV7ZKrhLyO4sjSVRBhciFDZ3RsAGKNB3umu8WHuB 3JoforIoTBiQhBXScj/a2/iwqy3PDDDbnrzJ4WcXJMzp9z8UfOB24jiqlpDyN8IE5Yq0 gTaca/ISPt/Xix1Zc4mCBGDt7AjWjpxP+TvLUWvgBDQRqAlOcZ4rv4LTysp9pnfOgkmb 8Radj7n0PJJHbIuDWVRZ1qvtgKBW0jCzyRRHgQXuzNKsIKKG4syFnBXFmsDkYzGRLSzM r5F6VZitDe8A2ClZWI4oSQYIObn9SeJxGiyLp5Fr/obC0uthDql+lGRcQFOB2EQWK1Iu UJtQ== Received: by 10.52.64.242 with SMTP id r18mr11392197vds.90.1343698839618; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:40:39 -0700 (PDT) References: <-6877672998224318255@unknownmsgid> From: Nat Sakimura In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:40:37 -0700 Message-ID: <6931040520935256609@unknownmsgid> To: Ted Lemon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307ac78505462304c61644f8 Cc: John Bradley , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Tim Bray , Jamal Hadi Salim Subject: Re: [84attendees] Final suggestions on Sim cards WAS(Sim cards) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:40:41 -0000 --20cf307ac78505462304c61644f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I got a telus sim at the Pacific centre mall. =nat via iPhone On 2012/07/30, at 18:10, Ted Lemon wrote: On Jul 30, 2012, at 5:58 PM, John Bradley wrote: I have a Telus prepaid as well. The data supports feathering in the iPhone at least. Where is the Telus kiosk? _______________________________________________ 84attendees mailing list 84attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees --20cf307ac78505462304c61644f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Where is the Telus kiosk?

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Will happily give finders fee ;-)) Thanks Toerless From ole@cisco.com Mon Jul 30 18:50:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91CF421F855D for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:50:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.174 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.174 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.175, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bdrBxTnfXzvY for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD7021F855B for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:50:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=1131; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1343699435; x=1344909035; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=AGCB0AJWh7kAKd+VT6otMl3v+a//sWkgAeAkj3IMWKk=; b=aWwwq1OOSMldhCyaw2z3kNWEsdr8cG3T3jRFRvaV01QUWwWSj7x81IZa qYqRDlGx4kpdul6YZYiO0OSy4vbhf3zCVee5fF8Hxm71zmK8JAlTRiHKl G2vLil/26Zv7/FX3qv3GM2Sq1N4iJ8k6OWOxkUyCpkHylyJ5N0TCFxGew o=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EAOM4F1CrRDoG/2dsb2JhbABCA7lggQeCIAEBAQMBAQEBDwECJSwBBwsQC0YnMAYTIodlBQyafYNIEJxoi04ag06DIQOITZJWhTKDGoEEYoJ/gT8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,681,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="53511933" Received: from mtv-core-1.cisco.com ([171.68.58.6]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2012 01:50:35 +0000 Received: from [10.27.1.132] (sjc-ole-8913.cisco.com [10.27.1.132]) by mtv-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6V1oZEN026028; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:50:35 GMT Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:50:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Chris Morrow In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <-6877672998224318255@unknownmsgid> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: John Bradley , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Tim Bray , Jamal Hadi Salim Subject: Re: [84attendees] Final suggestions on Sim cards WAS(Sim cards) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:50:39 -0000 Update: I shut down the phone, removed the AT&T SIM and rebooted with an Orange UK SIM. This time the phone came up on Rogers, still not setting for "Carrier". Maybe it's a duopoly :-) Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo On Mon, 30 Jul 2012, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > I find it rather interesting that AT&T in the US only allows me to > roam on Telus. I have an unlocked iPhone (legally), but there is no > "Carrier" setting. I guess Canada is almost the US as far as AT&T > is concerned. > > So much for an open market. > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > Skype: organdemo > > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > From amorris@amsl.com Mon Jul 30 18:52:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47D521F855B; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:52:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1GxjI-kqEW3A; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0121021F8564; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC5312D809; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:52:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UyJN+XpInoV8; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-4581.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-4581.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.69.129]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5E07112D807; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:52:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexa Morris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:52:41 -0700 Message-Id: <154EF69A-D48C-40C8-8B04-A274E293DD1A@amsl.com> To: 84all@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: [84attendees] Seating at the Technical Plenary X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:52:43 -0000 If you attended tonight's Technical Plenary...well, then you know that = everyone else did as well. We want to apologize for the lack of = available seating tonight. The room was supposed to be configured to = support 900 attendees (which is our normal number) but we found out just = as the Plenary was starting that was only configured to support 580 = attendees. Unfortunately, it was too late for us to address the = situation at that point. However, we want to assure you that there will be ample seating = available on Wednesday evening, when you return for the Administrative = Plenary. Regards, Alexa ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com From john-ietf@jck.com Mon Jul 30 19:04:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813C021F85E1 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:04:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xYQVBwoIOiAN for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsa2.jck.com (bsa2.jck.com [70.88.254.51]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2A321F8602 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]) by bsa2.jck.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Sw1jZ-000BPK-TH; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:58:54 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:04:46 -0400 From: John C Klensin To: Alexa Morris Message-ID: <6F8F0FF18043860C3FD41995@JCK-EEE10> In-Reply-To: <154EF69A-D48C-40C8-8B04-A274E293DD1A@amsl.com> References: <154EF69A-D48C-40C8-8B04-A274E293DD1A@amsl.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] [84all] Seating at the Technical Plenary X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 02:04:51 -0000 --On Monday, 30 July, 2012 18:52 -0700 Alexa Morris wrote: > If you attended tonight's Technical Plenary...well, then you > know that everyone else did as well. We want to apologize for > the lack of available seating tonight. The room was supposed > to be configured to support 900 attendees (which is our normal > number) but we found out just as the Plenary was starting that > was only configured to support 580 attendees. Unfortunately, > it was too late for us to address the situation at that point. > > However, we want to assure you that there will be ample > seating available on Wednesday evening, when you return for > the Administrative Plenary. Alexa, I, at least, am quite impressed by the dynamic remedy. Late, and perhaps not enough, but I believe this is the first time I'm seen a meeting room made larger while the meeting was going on :-) john From carlos@lacnic.net Mon Jul 30 19:08:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC9811E80F6 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:08:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.197 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.197 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.402, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YAmXjdvMS1mf for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E766D11E80F5 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-57ef.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-57ef.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.87.239]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20AF308469; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:08:28 -0300 (UYT) Message-ID: <50173E1A.10708@lacnic.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:08:26 -0700 From: "Carlos M. Martinez" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John C Klensin References: <154EF69A-D48C-40C8-8B04-A274E293DD1A@amsl.com> <6F8F0FF18043860C3FD41995@JCK-EEE10> In-Reply-To: <6F8F0FF18043860C3FD41995@JCK-EEE10> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-From: carlos@lacnic.net Cc: Alexa Morris , 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] [84all] Seating at the Technical Plenary X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 02:08:36 -0000 Almost in line with the main topic of the plenary, a 'software-defined meeting room' ;) ~C. On 2012-07-30 7:04 PM, John C Klensin wrote: > > --On Monday, 30 July, 2012 18:52 -0700 Alexa Morris > wrote: > >> If you attended tonight's Technical Plenary...well, then you >> know that everyone else did as well. We want to apologize for >> the lack of available seating tonight. The room was supposed >> to be configured to support 900 attendees (which is our normal >> number) but we found out just as the Plenary was starting that >> was only configured to support 580 attendees. Unfortunately, >> it was too late for us to address the situation at that point. >> >> However, we want to assure you that there will be ample >> seating available on Wednesday evening, when you return for >> the Administrative Plenary. > Alexa, > > I, at least, am quite impressed by the dynamic remedy. Late, > and perhaps not enough, but I believe this is the first time I'm > seen a meeting room made larger while the meeting was going on > :-) > > john > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Tue Jul 31 01:09:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9FB21F8688 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:09:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3z4Hm4a4MbBo for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:d0:f102::25e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F6821F8687 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6UNg0NF023031; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:42:00 +0100 X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk q6UNg0NF023031 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=ecs.soton.ac.uk; s=200903; t=1343691720; bh=eUjLQYS5pUvCggoKYSJCeh1nWj0=; h=Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=3kFwF0J1lFLzzCxwoFAYgFjuA5rSQziimb2MyY64+i9Cshh/yUhKKyLu7h6QKFq26 y3FNNebIjdrGfEeXUGYBWCYCFUpbZrgV6MVlL6JQAO/XZEHoYuIe3Cx6Odw1wlmI+Z 7PdIdmsJ0QzMpbU0dNeUgP10ObYW84etKSdx7tlg= Received: from gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk ([2001:630:d0:f102:250:56ff:fea0:401]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [2001:630:d0:f102:250:56ff:fea0:68da]) envelope-from with ESMTP (valid=N/A) id o6U0g00430643800ej ret-id none; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:42:00 +0100 Received: from dhcp-1197.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-1197.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.17.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6UNed8U022120 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:40:41 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: Tim Chown In-Reply-To: <501716FF.6090203@lacnic.net> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:40:39 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <501716FF.6090203@lacnic.net> <6E9FEF18-316E-40B5-BEDB-C192A775BFBD@ecs.soton.ac.uk> To: "Carlos M. Martinez" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) X-ECS-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-smtpf-Report: sid=o6U0g0043064380000; tid=o6U0g00430643800ej; client=relay,forged,no_ptr,ipv6; mail=; rcpt=; nrcpt=3:0; fails=0 X-ECS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ECS-MailScanner-ID: q6UNg0NF023031 X-ECS-MailScanner-From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org, Tim Bray Subject: Re: [84attendees] V6 @Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 08:09:28 -0000 On 31 Jul 2012, at 00:21, "Carlos M. Martinez" = wrote: > My IPv6 works just fine. I'm even getting IPv6 DNS servers on my shiny = new 10.8 install. DHCPv6 support was in previous versions, but yes it's a useful feature = :) Tim= From jsaldana@unizar.es Tue Jul 31 05:00:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F3321F85CC for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 05:00:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xV07Ehthdt3P for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 05:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huecha.unizar.es (huecha.unizar.es [155.210.1.51]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B648D21F8668 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 05:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jsaldanapc (212.Red-83-56-14.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [83.56.14.212]) (authenticated bits=0) by huecha.unizar.es (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id q6VC0C7D029889 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:00:13 +0200 From: "Jose Saldana" To: <84attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:00:15 +0200 Message-ID: <006701cd6f14$0c6d2140$254763c0$@unizar.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0068_01CD6F24.CFF99AC0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac1uKeh3d9KFBTqhRpucUyUlI0IoWQ== Content-Language: es X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd & Bogofilter Subject: [84attendees] Shooting around the corner X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:00:22 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01CD6F24.CFF99AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, If you have read the article "Shooting around the corner " in the IETF Journal, perhaps you may like to know that this draft , which belongs to tsvwg , is currently being discussed in a specific list tcmtf@ietf.org. If you want to subscribe and/or contribute, your comments will be welcome. In addition, if you want to talk with some of the authors and contributors of the draft, who are in Vancouver, just let me know. Best regards, Jose Saldana University of Zaragoza http://diec.unizar.es/~jsaldana/personal/index.htm ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01CD6F24.CFF99AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear all,

 

If you have read the article “Shooting around the corner” in the = IETF Journal, perhaps you may like to know that this draf= t, which belongs to tsvwg, is currently = being discussed in a specific list tcmtf@ietf.org. If you want to subscribe = and/or contribute, your comments will be = welcome.

 

In addition, if you want to talk with some of the authors = and contributors of the draft, who are in Vancouver, just let me = know.

 

Best regards,

 

Jose = Saldana

University = of Zaragoza

http://diec.unizar.es/~jsaldana/personal/index.htm<= /span>

 

------=_NextPart_000_0068_01CD6F24.CFF99AC0-- From weiler+ietf@watson.org Tue Jul 31 06:04:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A64D21F86B6 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 06:04:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RkOOnK+APGp9 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 06:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2D621F86AA for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 06:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6VD4K9r008476 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:04:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from weiler+ietf@watson.org) Received: from localhost (weiler@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6VD4JTj008473 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:04:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from weiler+ietf@watson.org) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: weiler owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:04:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Samuel Weiler X-X-Sender: weiler@fledge.watson.org To: 84attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [84attendees] Pride Week and ale tasting X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:04:21 -0000 The concierge pointed out an ale tasting this evening a few blocks away from the IETF social venue. http://www.vancouverpride.ca/event/galetasting/ It turns out to be connected to pride week. The parade is Sunday, and the calendar of events through the week is impressive: http://www.vancouverpride.ca/events/ http://www.gayvancouver.net/vancouver-pride/our-guide-to-vancouver-pride-2012 -- Sam From rdroms.ietf@gmail.com Tue Jul 31 10:49:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785AE21F8873 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:49:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fX1BaXOfJgB2 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com (mail-yx0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E8E21F8872 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yenq13 with SMTP id q13so6862081yen.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:49:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=QH5qHbc0edjr7IUbwo3f2eUr/pRNhBpgSK4lu+e4SzQ=; b=oiEtNfNZkd2mTRF72/rO4bv9MYbwNCxlaAI9ZRAipTim83bhn2zdZaax/qZ2pjKmn0 d4VjW6DNJruKmBYDjhvS0z0dFI4swxOoObUjvfTbx2J5RpHbnZEboXfTKemG4CqtkRq3 7BWKOkD/DXNibc44uUOoFSVdlv9bzV+pwhc/g9sRoJLUxGXF8bLtR6WSmIp/FW53T88o pxNX7s4a+5FUYYbeVSa+GoCj5428pjZ+IA6zp4ltXvufd7rsC+AVXdc+n5To56fW16kx 4sN/cA2Jh5jUSddDtSzp/Pn7iiitImN7LTR/xkXMvmqgpZjBDt0Isa/SKAOZk2cVKs8q 9BmQ== Received: by 10.68.219.226 with SMTP id pr2mr45477727pbc.1.1343756949270; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjc-vpn4-744.cisco.com (128-107-239-234.cisco.com. [128.107.239.234]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id rx7sm691330pbc.64.2012.07.31.10.49.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:49:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Ralph Droms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:49:05 -0700 Message-Id: <427EECAA-339F-4872-B508-23F49247D743@gmail.com> To: 84attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Subject: [84attendees] Canada->US postage stamps X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:49:10 -0000 I have 5 extra postage stamps appropriate for sending an envelope from = here to the US. If you can use one, let me know; I'd rather give them = away than throw them away. - Ralph From ole@cisco.com Tue Jul 31 10:54:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6761D21F8828 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:54:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.465 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.465 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.134, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P+q-0B9kFjVm for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-2.cisco.com (mtv-iport-2.cisco.com [173.36.130.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6BE21F8826 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:54:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=746; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1343757267; x=1344966867; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=5h8wZPmXypPAcCi6gJav5w3SJTJ73Z1mt7Elbw3/1Mw=; b=ThkEGPFnCNId2UiqTu8faP9dJZQaZB64YWu2qL1l8S8OUEJQbwRYSVbl dlHBT+PdcP0jJJu8XKCc4u1gNqUr3vpuda3rkkPKiEYc0T5HXdg3yp6eR KXoArJ7+6yAjyCWXIqIiDFn2hj/O03c9+TXa4t6l27qQJwE7RSBhjoYRz E=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiMFAHAaGFCrRDoG/2dsb2JhbABCA4UxtEiBB4IgAQEBAwEBAQEPAQISEywICwULCw44JzAGEyKHZQUMnAeDSBCdHotJGoNOgyEDiE2SVYUygxqBBGKCf4E/ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,688,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="53666355" Received: from mtv-core-1.cisco.com ([171.68.58.6]) by mtv-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2012 17:54:27 +0000 Received: from [10.27.1.132] (sjc-ole-8913.cisco.com [10.27.1.132]) by mtv-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6VHsRJt009380; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:54:27 GMT Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:54:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Ralph Droms In-Reply-To: <427EECAA-339F-4872-B508-23F49247D743@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <427EECAA-339F-4872-B508-23F49247D743@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Canada->US postage stamps X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:54:28 -0000 Like the currency in your pocket, they will work next time. We're coming back here in 15 months or so. Save them. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, Ralph Droms wrote: > I have 5 extra postage stamps appropriate for sending an envelope > from here to the US. If you can use one, let me know; I'd rather > give them away than throw them away. > > - Ralph > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > From weiler+ietf@watson.org Tue Jul 31 11:20:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED2121F88CB for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:20:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qm74TFWEe8mR for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D478521F88CA for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6VIKkxF097481 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:20:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from weiler+ietf@watson.org) Received: from localhost (weiler@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6VIKjeb097477 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:20:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from weiler+ietf@watson.org) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: weiler owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:20:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Samuel Weiler X-X-Sender: weiler@fledge.watson.org To: 84attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <427EECAA-339F-4872-B508-23F49247D743@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <427EECAA-339F-4872-B508-23F49247D743@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:20:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [84attendees] anyone getting rid of a social ticket? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:20:47 -0000 I don't think the desk has run out of tickets, but I want to give anyone who wants to get rid of ticket a chance to do so. Please respond by private mail. -- Sam From sean.sheedy@arrisi.com Tue Jul 31 11:24:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CDF21F8930 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:24:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.300, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3NfnPAsVrsls for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arrisi.com (ironmail.arrisi.com [216.234.147.20]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0A621F8926 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ([10.2.141.37]) by ironmail.arrisi.com with ESMTP with TLS id 6nfsxf1.27980610; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:23:57 -0400 Received: from ATLOWA1.ARRS.ARRISI.com (10.2.131.252) by Helen.ARRS.ARRISI.COM (10.2.141.37) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.245.1; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:23:57 -0400 Received: from CHIEXCAS3.ARRS.ARRISI.com (10.6.200.13) by ATLOWA1.ARRS.ARRISI.com (10.2.131.252) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.289.1; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:23:57 -0400 Received: from sean-netbook.osioda.org (10.6.159.6) by CHIEXCAS3.ARRS.ARRISI.com (10.6.200.13) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.289.1; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:23:56 -0500 Message-ID: <501822BA.2050300@arrisi.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:23:54 -0700 From: Sean Sheedy Organization: ARRIS, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: <84attendees@ietf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [10.6.159.6] Subject: [84attendees] Hong Kong-style Chinese dinner Friday X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:24:09 -0000 Vancouver is home to a large Hong Kong Chinese population, and has an excellent selection of Hong Kong-style food. My Hong Kong-born wife and I are planning a dinner outing to one of the better restaurants for dinner Friday evening, and are looking for a few more participants. We drove here, so I can take up to 4 more people in my SUV. Alternatively, the restaurant is about 10 minutes by taxi or 25 minutes by public transit. The restaurant: Sun Sui Wah Seafood Restaurant 3888 Main St Vancouver http://www.sunsuiwah.com/ Please contact me privately if you're interested. Sean -- ~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~-- Sean Sheedy Staff System Software Engineer, Media and Communications Systems Sean.Sheedy@arrisi.com | 503-495-9454 (Phone) ~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~-- From muhammad.azam.akram@ericsson.com Tue Jul 31 11:31:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B2421F8847 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:31:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PG9Ajlr+kIGQ for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw7.ericsson.se (mailgw7.ericsson.se [193.180.251.48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FAF21F883D for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:31:17 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb30-b7fd46d000003161-da-5018247478df Received: from esessmw0256.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw7.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id B3.45.12641.47428105; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:31:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSCMS0364.eemea.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.209]) by esessmw0256.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.115.96]) with mapi; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:31:16 +0200 From: Muhammad Azam Akram To: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:31:15 +0200 Thread-Topic: Power Converter found Thread-Index: AQHNb0qrw2TgE4ro1UWds7cY8xjhCQ== Message-ID: <3A6B3891D1A95A4391185A554B11D3505743BD352C@ESESSCMS0364.eemea.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrJLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+JvrW6JikSAQcc0WYs59y+wODB6LFny kymAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoEr4+7yz6wFsxgrltxfw9bAWNPFyMkhIWAi8fj0FiYIW0ziwr31 bF2MXBxCAqcYJVb2nmOHcBYySnQcfMcMUsUmYCPx/3E7WIeIgKHE5GnnGUFsFgFViSvHJ7GC 2MICchK3l75mhahRlrjSOoURwtaTeLr/J9AGDg5egXCJ2XsKQMKMQIu/n1oDNpJZQFzi1pP5 UAcJSCzZc54ZwhaVePn4HytEvajEnfb1jBD1OhILdn9ig7C1JZYtfA1WzysgKHFy5hOWCYzC s5CMnYWkZRaSlllIWhYwsqxiFM5NzMxJLzfXSy3KTC4uzs/TK07dxAgM7oNbfhvsYNx0X+wQ ozQHi5I4r57qfn8hgfTEktTs1NSC1KL4otKc1OJDjEwcnFINjLPuMigUrfn7wqSxWa/HwyE3 sHy2/e+9IXU1oanTvjQ+vGry2yUr/5eR8sFHifNk1wfFcxZfUXf6639iyqljc9kF1/4w1Xyg Putys9aKW6ZHxf+K3LN/IdIneFFvsz2nT9nO4G12h55N/CjXONflS+L0qJPHLn/bJtDflv26 T+AP2+Nwvz9iP5VYijMSDbWYi4oTAdWiwcM8AgAA Subject: [84attendees] Power Converter found X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:31:27 -0000 Hi =0A= I found one power adapter, which I am leaving to registeration desk.=0A= BR=0A= Azam=0A= *** E-mail via DME powered by mobile broadband ***= From bsburmaa@yahoo.com Tue Jul 31 12:09:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474DD11E810E for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:09:22 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1343761762.39497.YahooMailClassic@web162203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:09:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Baasansuren Burmaa To: 84attendees@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [84attendees] Lost and found at registration desk, floor 3 X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:09:24 -0000 Hello All, If someone found a small golden earring with blue stone today, around 8:50-10:00a.m, around the Regency Ballroom foyer or Regency C room, please kindly bring it to Registration desk on floor 3. Thanks, BB From morrowc@google.com Tue Jul 31 13:24:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5FC11E80A2 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:24:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f6CmqLm2LaOF for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A43E11E808D for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lagv3 with SMTP id v3so4460888lag.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:24:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-system-of-record; bh=/n/HT6TnhL4NnVijHBk9MPx8MpEhNv5lU95SqNey41k=; b=fKW2jEhL0QaZJNVpSPyZznhEa0TKVsfwISSJanPH+ChiTNVAmW8owEVLfS95EmRWDF /n+Kzw6EJJGQMtgr0pUWlAdWp7zk13lX45lkg4WzaZGoisT5hlddK51JGpGldTOkxoQ8 qupRbQo3y9Glh0E1V3cW/Shh2H7RNhtU5TYenYYJtWRgbG8nBz5XuIlQfWrjhCW8j/Qp RLO5ri8TCv+2pzPPaVZmyUSDG8za+flMDCrbkzLHNJctFVrTqUAmQfAQux1urzS/2zdH 3kiFcBKIh4CwKmpVlsfYQ4TpkDGz882x4KUnMGW98I2qObbHtd2x7O07BmHt8uVn362v 5pmQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-system-of-record:x-gm-message-state; bh=/n/HT6TnhL4NnVijHBk9MPx8MpEhNv5lU95SqNey41k=; b=DLVBIyCqkg9d/n6iu881J1GJaLSLwBTNYiu7LgjXSpRYamRCCp3ZYzORKKzZ8Xlwfn iHvvlRDK06lvH6eoKdQ9t2Wx/USDcnFZ7+JLkpoNbfb/vPwVLnPolpNmBE4z5d1VxuMy AHux6xhv2EzVoIQIsKaehDwhp99KXTprmxN3RXbCCzJslMBbYCJ1XRTVR6IArsFeElp7 MVhciMSiHqzin1KN5WLnIuWjjedKd8J60lbXZwmrl/SKy1sB4TPgvD3UOwo0HgcPGB5u z+Pw6zQMp68rI6CQ0Fx/HsMv5Cql9HVAsFNXBceMI66gTyR5EwWn7MdaFHLzWhYQIJUJ RVFw== Received: by 10.152.146.169 with SMTP id td9mr15821824lab.42.1343766284987; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:24:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.146.169 with SMTP id td9mr15821813lab.42.1343766284814; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.1.103 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:24:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <427EECAA-339F-4872-B508-23F49247D743@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:24:44 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Morrow To: Samuel Weiler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-System-Of-Record: true X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmplW2ralzF/mvD4+nj2Q99ojciiF0XmOe+K2Zhmwzmwk+2d9+hkF6z7/HNkQD4yTcskWSoH21h5YW9oauZCyG8liFYJY/dJhu2rHKADHcHtT48dUXbBKfNk0cufLDSag4WVUCxW5tEZvlO1+x3escc62o2yTv2Hm9VPAQrcCsZ+7PrHIi71dBaOxC7S0+F2Irvxb+R Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] anyone getting rid of a social ticket? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:24:47 -0000 the desk is NOT out yet... fyi. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Samuel Weiler wrote: > I don't think the desk has run out of tickets, but I want to give anyone who > wants to get rid of ticket a chance to do so. Please respond by private > mail. > > -- Sam > > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From Ning.So@tatacommunications.com Tue Jul 31 13:56:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54D721F88B0 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:56:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z7uZuo4tx1De for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vmx3.tatacommunications.com (vmx3.tatacommunications.com [66.198.167.208]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF62C21F869E for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:56:13 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,678,1336363200"; d="scan'208";a="205090885" Received: from unknown (HELO wv1-cas-02.vsnl.co.in) ([64.86.157.138]) by mx3-2.tatacommunications.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2012 16:56:09 -0400 Received: from wv1-msg.vsnl.co.in ([fe80::48a:2bbb:1ee7:b0a0]) by wv1-cas-02.vsnl.co.in ([fe80::e0df:5bab:3121:6db2%13]) with mapi; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:56:10 -0400 From: Ning So To: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:56:07 -0400 Thread-Topic: Question on network tap device Thread-Index: Ac1vXa3/3/LU2R7TTI6jhh606tig8A== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [84attendees] Question on network tap device X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:56:14 -0000 All, I have a question on network tap devise, and please reply me privately if y= ou know the answer. I want to tap a network link and send the replicated traffic a few hundred = miles away through Internet to be processed remotely. I want to identify a= tapping device in the market that can do the following. 1. supporting pseudowires natively on the device, so that I can point the t= raffic from either direction of the link onto a separate PW. 2. supporting IPSec natively on the device, so that I can tunnel both PWs t= hrough a single IPSec tunnel to be transported through Internet I don't want a separate switch to perform those functions to minimize the f= ootprint and operational complexity. Any leads are appreciated. =20 Best regards, Ning So Head of Network Architecture Mobile Broadband Services Tata Communications=20 (Cell) 972-955-0914 From randy@psg.com Tue Jul 31 13:58:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434BC21F88AD for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:58:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.523 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.076, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id If9tWynBlWny for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E965C21F869E for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SwJWe-0000S8-9g; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:58:44 +0000 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:58:44 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Ning So In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Question on network tap device X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:58:47 -0000 > I want to tap a network link and send the replicated traffic a few > hundred miles away through Internet to be processed remotely. I want > to identify a tapping device in the market that can do the following. you may want to try an operators' list such as nanog randy From therbst@silverspringnet.com Tue Jul 31 14:02:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92A511E80E8 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:02:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xFZxhe5MLKsB for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from it-ipdr-01.silverspringnet.com (it-ipdr-01.silverspringnet.com [74.121.22.27]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B614311E80D1 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:02:47 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqwEAMZGGFAKOQxz/2dsb2JhbABCA4JKs3GER4IXEHkSAQsBCWsnBA7EZI8xgyEDm0SMbw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,689,1336374000"; d="scan'208,217";a="1837130" Received: from unknown (HELO SFO-EXCA-02.silverspringnet.com) ([10.57.12.115]) by it-ipdr-01.silverspringnet.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 31 Jul 2012 14:02:48 -0700 Received: from SFO-EXMB-03.silverspringnet.com ([fe80::e877:a0b0:2e8d:1b57]) by SFO-EXCA-02.silverspringnet.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.002; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:02:47 -0700 From: Thomas Herbst To: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: Vancouver Laundry Service that cater to downtown hotel guests Thread-Index: AQHNb1/V/J7t4skvqU+yUu1bAu7nEQ== Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:02:46 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.2.120421 x-originating-ip: [10.57.12.115] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CC3D95F82AA31therbstsilverspringnetcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Thomas Herbst Subject: [84attendees] Vancouver Laundry Service that cater to downtown hotel guests X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:02:48 -0000 --_000_CC3D95F82AA31therbstsilverspringnetcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wrapping up two weeks of travel, needed to get some laundry done. To avoid the extreme charges in the hotel, Yelp and google offered "Swan L= aundry and Dry Cleaning" For $50 they will pick up and delivery a load (~10pounds) from/to downtown = hotels. Discounts for dropping off and picking up. As I did not know they would pi= ck up, I walked to it at lunch today. About 15 minutes. They are at 1350 Burrard St, Vancouver, BC 604-684-0323 Fairmont, Hyatt and others seem to be a regular route for them. tom --_000_CC3D95F82AA31therbstsilverspringnetcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wrapping up two weeks of travel, needed to get some laundry done.
To avoid the extreme charges in the hotel,  Yelp and google offer= ed "Swan Laundry and Dry Cleaning"

For $50 they will pick up and delivery a load (~10pounds) from/to down= town hotels. 
Discounts for dropping off and picking up.  As I did not know the= y would pick up, I walked to it at lunch today.  
About 15 minutes.

They are at 1350 Burrard St, Vancouver, BC 
604-684-0323

Fairmont, Hyatt and others seem to be a regular route for them.

tom
--_000_CC3D95F82AA31therbstsilverspringnetcom_-- From randy@qualcomm.com Tue Jul 31 14:44:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F8521F8873 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:44:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dCMlS6ZPu82P for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD9F21F8895 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:44:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1343771093; x=1375307093; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:date:to:from: subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:x-random-sig-tag: x-originating-ip; bh=c//1DYl7+53a25mwzgsHSQNnNu5wY4pdDG8k43rEdQw=; b=TCPigR9kf2jhF6k75EQu4bXm8HMi99oMrINh8vjsNH4ehjhJOlwO5mK5 pkm7A1iE2UtpxtEsyUsI+79S5IgTHpF+Yd94gB9Fii/KONiOL7zfsDZeF /Qm7JTSdFby2NVsFDqdL42qW1sX7Y1oFAPWcWnqeoUwcgmhpxjJux2k8m Q=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5400,1158,6789"; a="214173717" Received: from ironmsg04-l.qualcomm.com ([172.30.48.19]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2012 14:44:53 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,689,1336374000"; d="scan'208";a="270278562" Received: from nasanexhc07.na.qualcomm.com ([172.30.39.190]) by Ironmsg04-L.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 31 Jul 2012 14:44:52 -0700 Received: from [208.181.207.156] (172.30.39.5) by qcmail1.qualcomm.com (172.30.39.190) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.309.2; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:44:50 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:44:36 -0700 To: Thomas Herbst , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> From: Randall Gellens MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Originating-IP: [172.30.39.5] Cc: Thomas Herbst Subject: Re: [84attendees] Vancouver Laundry Service that cater to downtown hotel guests X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:44:53 -0000 There's also a laundrette that will wash your stuff if you drop off and pick up, on Davie street a block or two to the right from Burrard. If you're at the Sheraton it may be closer. At 9:02 PM +0000 7/31/12, Thomas Herbst wrote: > Wrapping up two weeks of travel, needed to get some laundry done. > To avoid the extreme charges in the hotel, Yelp and google offered > "Swan Laundry and Dry Cleaning" > > For $50 they will pick up and delivery a load (~10pounds) from/to > downtown hotels. > Discounts for dropping off and picking up. As I did not know they > would pick up, I walked to it at lunch today. > About 15 minutes. > > They are at 1350 Burrard St, Vancouver, BC > 604-684-0323 > > Fairmont, Hyatt and others seem to be a regular route for them. > > tom > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- It is easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them. --Alfred Adler From tbray@textuality.com Tue Jul 31 14:56:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C218F21F85DB for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:56:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.976 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.976 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PpfuOu0qUVWV for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-f172.google.com (mail-vc0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3922121F85CE for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vcbfo14 with SMTP id fo14so6768273vcb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:56:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=VwE4IYh+M8C+HdeTBd31HvXMh2dIz/vMbgJV1LRoHGE=; b=HKVHgs23QqRaLO/5EirbccAZ9AkWSesSILJvrPTEC8aHgHmPFn588fKU13deotTjat F2YrKV1GI6wTl3dkhJKkOKnvtBknyMOlULeomT+mkhJHgeTsNm9xFYKMBRqm8HIstpsi lLH7SHn8LYYMYOPHNJ1oTXCiNuQWJIuYwpyOOm9nBO++kvcgNPLpwejSQxIysS5ZsY7i IJ72G4qU4QYdLG+/hMbo7ZNNLcZaltyEGzO7Vfvf31sLUd8JTG19pwCBfMYkUS20lYFa b6UKghiVMU8Gcv3EPLjmpbhQsCMP0kY3V1ru5kKY+iQzm/ExA0PqBbjg07hTo3Kb43sz r1zQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.155.3 with SMTP id q3mr15298539vcw.11.1343771813633; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.113.162 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:56:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [130.129.16.126] Received: by 10.52.113.162 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:56:53 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Bray To: 84attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043bdfcc9c5efb04c6274126 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl6mBsGtxK498Hd2UW7fPKzqm8AoguCB1AMA4etq07UYoRmz/+wmClK2xs4Ss9ONqA72kTK Subject: [84attendees] Parisian WiFi X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:56:54 -0000 --f46d043bdfcc9c5efb04c6274126 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My wifi-only Android tablet has geolocated itself in Paris, based on where Google (I suppose) thinks this SSID lives. --f46d043bdfcc9c5efb04c6274126 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

My wifi-only Android tablet has geolocated itself in Paris, based on where Google (I suppose) thinks this SSID lives.

--f46d043bdfcc9c5efb04c6274126-- From ondrej.sury@nic.cz Tue Jul 31 14:58:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C527921F86F9 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:58:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.451 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.451 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.248, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_23=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O-Sv0Tcqylwn for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.nic.cz (mail.nic.cz [IPv6:2001:1488:800:400::400]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4592421F86F3 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-63b8.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-63b8.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.99.184]) by mail.nic.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D8436140FC2 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 23:58:50 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nic.cz; s=default; t=1343771931; bh=k3qzmR4rPvtbYfdsfw2OdRnu9zGERap608tu7xPdHTQ=; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To; b=mWcZmckSxniGJjhq+x+WztXNHpZHS/r/k6jO69lqyvuauiWQtpmdNUH+waUdWsHxe B2kYNNz226yUAb40dx2mU52RnbvAD1fCbOImSONb2WwdjAne+Z3XUdgT4Y6gV3G/ai ntUWDZM8PzMnaoX3MLTZcW1f7lA63q09xX5vlQ6I= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: =?utf-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_Sur=C3=BD?= In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:58:45 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4BC5F92B-2068-4E28-B8B6-EFB3F3849BBC@nic.cz> References: To: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [84attendees] Parisian WiFi X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:58:52 -0000 On 31. 7. 2012, at 14:56, Tim Bray wrote: > My wifi-only Android tablet has geolocated itself in Paris, based on = where Google (I suppose) thinks this SSID lives. And RIPE in Ljubljana was located on Hawai. Yeah, GeoIP location for = PIs suck. -- Ond=C5=99ej Sur=C3=BD -- Chief Science Officer ------------------------------------------- CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. -- Laborato=C5=99e CZ.NIC Americka 23, 120 00 Praha 2, Czech Republic mailto:ondrej.sury@nic.cz http://nic.cz/ tel:+420.222745110 fax:+420.222745112 ------------------------------------------- From bector.online@gmail.com Tue Jul 31 15:05:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D11521F8668 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:05:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.288 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.288 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.310, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9uDcEEYoUEQ9 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFA721F87E4 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wgbfm10 with SMTP id fm10so3749512wgb.1 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:05:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hAKnjj3aHxms8JV493JDQcsIItOqvaddfV7UtrGPxHY=; b=S59fO860+q2eUvX+8KLMPz5raVL9gehK4MYR3LzouLVRsGx1PIvt/AX2R3UHIp0Dj8 D1bvAqweCsubzubcXlvGECODab2hx+5tFm8oqMWGGHceLAMra3HwEe9eq1/y4NFTNGI6 rj8F8M2+Qxrzfcfcwe74zeFooSTWK6aB4OLNAlUYZRaiMoMWGzfau+usVvMXEcHWwOT3 tVKiOHIfMhRamzFIbcwTnrqnLfigyEgPxeDnBZceCBrKaWMNe36vq20EqB1XbQ6uh8aH kDacXMddKVvAQje1f6+QVYar6ztVngA++NOR6AfoUVFXYQO8AuUcOyIa5XyQ2Zkc7z1O 0Aig== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.99.196 with SMTP id es4mr6381319wib.18.1343772325196; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.44.34 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:05:25 -0700 Message-ID: From: Rajeev Bector To: 84attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044283701a34fa04c62760e1 Subject: [84attendees] Stanley Park from 3:30-6:30 today X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:05:32 -0000 --f46d044283701a34fa04c62760e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I dont have anything that I want to attend today afternoon so I am going to stroll over to Stanley Park. I start at 3:30 and plan to come back by 6:30 (before the social event). If anyone wants to join, send me an email. (please be ready to walk for 3 hours). Rajeev --f46d044283701a34fa04c62760e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I dont have anything that I want to attend today afternoon so I am going to= stroll over to Stanley Park. I start at 3:30 and plan to come back by 6:30= (before the social event).
If anyone wants to join, send me an email. = (please be ready to walk for 3 hours).

Rajeev
--f46d044283701a34fa04c62760e1-- From bector.online@gmail.com Tue Jul 31 15:08:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550DE11E80E2 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:08:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.366 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.366 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.232, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ObmZ1stSWVdM for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com (mail-we0-f172.google.com [74.125.82.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB3211E80D9 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by weyu54 with SMTP id u54so5269626wey.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:08:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=/C+osruPzzNxUtnBiVC/4exVfn0yxdKi7RFr31ufOME=; b=Hk1DBxdtXg06cUsF3afGoUErJnLsNpiWbEFN+VVhyNdERCddDnwsWVLoB93ZuKA7Zx T0MVZehfGEC1ABVuofjiKzpFYyg0EFkDIhNZfLSFJ3Crzkw1pa4dpcqTy/0jVVzphj8z 9nKRKWD3lhoVKBjD7voDmblQlzp8OdGYM8Ohw/pFEPMmRK18wvz4uI3hGj7f2SV4oxu8 8gstPhPCao7pEkCiUu0Ikeg2ff3//W0645b15V/UhMDXDujJjHC8zb6HlF2AiEaoFjpG tcMDpEvXdTjMv3wkGcEijd7wzKKARN+YJ0se98GBreHgx7G9v154QGwZgGtAf/9SGkw7 1rtQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.91.1 with SMTP id ca1mr6460128wib.8.1343772534821; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.44.34 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:08:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4D67C55A-B157-49E7-8645-0E1F25D11BD6@gmail.com> References: <80A3637C-F6E0-488E-988A-6B2A05F346DB@amsl.com> <0lk3xmb8i0.fsf@wjh.hardakers.net> <4D67C55A-B157-49E7-8645-0E1F25D11BD6@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:08:54 -0700 Message-ID: From: Rajeev Bector To: 84attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043d67df98d49504c6276c95 Subject: Re: [84attendees] Food Trucks in Vancouver X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:08:57 -0000 --f46d043d67df98d49504c6276c95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +1 for Roaming Dragon. Delicious ! +1 for Cafe Artigiano. Awesome coffee and desserts. Their hot wraps also looked pretty good so one could go there for brunch/lunch (altho I didnt try yet) On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: > I have eaten at "Roaming Dragon", and "Japadog". Both very good and are > on Burrand Street. > > Bob > > On Jul 29, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Dan McGinn wrote: > > > Ironically "street meat" has the best veggie burger I've tried in years. > > > > -- > > Dan McGinn > > Network Design Architect > > > > PEER 1 Hosting | Ping & People > > > > 1000-555 West Hastings Street > > Vancouver, BC, Canada V6B 4N5 > > > > T: 604.683.7747x1179 | F: 604.683.4634 > > www.peer1.com > > > > On Jul 29, 2012, at 13:46, "Wes Hardaker" wrote: > > > >> Amy Vezza writes: > >> > >>> Street food seems to be huge here in Vancouver. > >> > >> And you can't go wrong with names like "Street Meet" and "Van Go > Espresso": > >> > >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/hardaker/7671457294/in/photostream > >> -- > >> Wes Hardaker > >> SPARTA, Inc. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 84attendees mailing list > >> 84attendees@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > > _______________________________________________ > > 84attendees mailing list > > 84attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > --f46d043d67df98d49504c6276c95 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1 for Roaming Dragon. Delicious !=A0
+1 for Cafe Artigiano. Awesome co= ffee and desserts. Their hot wraps also looked pretty good so one could go = there for brunch/lunch (altho I didnt try yet)


On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Bob Hi= nden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
I have eaten at "Roaming Dragon", = and "Japadog". =A0Both very good and are on Burrand Street.

Bob

On Jul 29, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Dan McGinn wrote:

> Ironically "street meat" has the best veggie burger I've= tried in years.
>
> --
> Dan McGinn
> Network Design Architect
>
> PEER 1 Hosting =A0| =A0Ping & People
>
> 1000-555 West Hastings Street
> Vancouver, BC, Canada =A0V6B 4N5
>
> T: 604.683.7747x1179 =A0| =A0F: 604.683.4634
> www.peer1.com >
> On Jul 29, 2012, at 13:46, "Wes Hardaker" <wjhns1@hardakers.net> wr= ote:
>
>> Amy Vezza <avezza@amsl.com> writes:
>>
>>> Street food seems to be huge here in Vancouver.
>>
>> And you can't go wrong with names like "Street Meet"= and "Van Go Espresso":
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/hardaker/767145729= 4/in/photostream
>> --
>> Wes Hardaker
>> SPARTA, Inc.
>> _______________________________________________
>> 84attendees mailing list
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--f46d043d67df98d49504c6276c95-- From scott.brim@gmail.com Tue Jul 31 15:13:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065D311E8120 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:13:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id duhuLZ-DXvzz for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DED321F8867 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pbbjt11 with SMTP id jt11so20066pbb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:13:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=gzuwKMKKVMdJQoiUutScgAQWAutCLdU3yBJL7DwQYvQ=; b=BCAqbJQGKdjOKcfYwOVFqTXVG1/45hyDn/ZGHSfWDJa7ZC/kNpAQ5lxXRSlYrggVbV YfKe7ILuCEcHSFsuFDJd8XyKgHNtq2lJeaBcG1UVeR6F+36s1SYup7ayDzXSMZxuE7sV wdb19mcJIo8fCrkoxuQMSLbhy6TTU4mV0/AfxGXYaWQK9HivXdIlqDVHv7z3xYIx1kkI X1bzgCSJaMf0y8CUvUEi+Mr5WQ/F6p3wynlO35BqddQQxLX+jWPa5RTCfNa9cP0cNoVJ lUmBW4cz9xeXvrjrL5FFhPioId+Lp6xpyG7rYrwLYXJ6FJ6QJ3oTVVhapzZqRXVhBmEd Z7Kw== Received: by 10.68.233.103 with SMTP id tv7mr47551873pbc.124.1343772783921; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:13:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.48.231 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:12:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BC5F92B-2068-4E28-B8B6-EFB3F3849BBC@nic.cz> References: <4BC5F92B-2068-4E28-B8B6-EFB3F3849BBC@nic.cz> From: Scott Brim Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:12:43 -0700 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?B?T25kxZllaiBTdXLDvQ==?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Parisian WiFi X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:13:05 -0000 > On 31. 7. 2012, at 14:56, Tim Bray wrote: >> My wifi-only Android tablet has geolocated itself in Paris, based on where Google (I suppose) thinks this SSID lives. It's the prefix. Speedtest has the same problem. I don't know who the source of the mapping is. From randy@psg.com Tue Jul 31 15:17:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DA221F886F for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:17:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.527 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.527 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.072, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nO1mKBfYygm1 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B0B21F886B for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SwKka-0000f2-Rx; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:17:12 +0000 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:17:12 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Scott Brim In-Reply-To: References: <4BC5F92B-2068-4E28-B8B6-EFB3F3849BBC@nic.cz> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: =?UTF-8?B?T25kxZllaiA=?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sur=FD?= , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] Parisian WiFi X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:17:17 -0000 > It's the prefix. i believe it is the bssid. they believe that over gps and gsm tower. randy From bector.online@gmail.com Tue Jul 31 15:19:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A252211E8136 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:19:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.412 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.412 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.186, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t0FJznPU-Jxs for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com (mail-wg0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BE021F886F for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wgbdr13 with SMTP id dr13so4288832wgb.13 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:19:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jvW0kyu2bAvzhMZPd6d3xARZv89nwkJFyeAKUMbCm4I=; b=E82TTrThsYDDAQ5ZOO5oZO5eJyjUhxS/RYC4XYz011QyE8UmeHJEgEmfXYuRP73sYI b9CNR0YvZeuSWhI+V4ySacq84mWs7eQDPxem002PPYipes0mG3Doe/iXm9svzMjD8onu 7c7RD8GmSVF4MA9UBJUtbgMGA4E0U+k4NOJxqceRhD7NWHIw9fSG6/altbnublJHocei s5gsC4CT4zxP1qH1DTZZKQTES8zhZkesPvi1m2FAK6OiXDU6RAKNWljSGsHEfS/0DShi 2pbc9MOgmJl5VolqQufxjbgWGqRljGD9QK3A2EbCkpoa/R5BBOSL43DEQEHGeieITrP5 iyEA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.82.164 with SMTP id j4mr11068868wiy.18.1343773160724; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.44.34 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:19:20 -0700 Message-ID: From: Rajeev Bector To: 84attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04428d96e758a104c62791a2 Subject: [84attendees] Whistler on Saturday X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:19:22 -0000 --f46d04428d96e758a104c62791a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Two of us (myself and Stefan Zoppel) are going to do a daytrip to Whistler on Saturday. We plan to do some hiking and photography and whatever other interesting outdoorsy stuff there is to do over there (havent looked at that in detail). We will leave in the morning and plan to be back late Saturday night (or possibly Sunday if there are more interesting things to do there). Anyway, I have a rental car which could take 1 (or possibly 2) more people. If you are interested, let me know. Cheers, Rajeev --f46d04428d96e758a104c62791a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Two of us (myself and Stefan Zoppel) are going to do a daytrip to Whistler = on Saturday. We plan to do some hiking and photography and whatever other i= nteresting outdoorsy stuff there is to do over there (havent looked at that= in detail). We will leave in the morning and plan to be back late Saturday= night (or possibly Sunday if there are more interesting things to do there= ).

Anyway, I have a rental car which could take 1 (or possibly = 2) more people. If you are interested, let me know.

Cheers,
Rajeev
--f46d04428d96e758a104c62791a2-- From rhe@nosc.ja.net Tue Jul 31 15:19:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC82C11E8148 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:19:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5dtKMSwyYw04 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nosc.ja.net (nosc.ja.net [IPv6:2001:630:0:40::14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C1C11E8147 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vpn-14.ja.net ([128.86.24.14]) by nosc.ja.net with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SwKmx-00073o-Fa; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 23:19:39 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Rob Evans In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:19:36 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5B352EB5-A659-40F0-81FB-CEB5DFD8C9C7@nosc.ja.net> References: To: Rajeev Bector X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Stanley Park from 3:30-6:30 today X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:19:41 -0000 > I dont have anything that I want to attend today afternoon so I am = going to stroll over to Stanley Park. I start at 3:30 and plan to come = back by 6:30 (before the social event). > If anyone wants to join, send me an email. (please be ready to walk = for 3 hours). If you're walking all the way around the perimeter, those of a delicate = complexion may, after my experience on Sunday, wish to follow the words = of Mary Schmich and wear sunscreen. :) Rob From carlos@lacnic.net Tue Jul 31 15:20:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E545721F88A2 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:20:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jYq9Ys21fYdO for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479BD21F889E for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-57ef.meeting.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:80:7533:197f:ae26:be6f]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978E430844C; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:20:46 -0300 (UYT) Message-ID: <50185A3D.90107@lacnic.net> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:20:45 -0700 From: "Carlos M. Martinez" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randy Bush References: <4BC5F92B-2068-4E28-B8B6-EFB3F3849BBC@nic.cz> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-From: carlos@lacnic.net Cc: =?UTF-8?B?T25kxZllaiBTdXLDvQ==?= , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Scott Brim Subject: Re: [84attendees] Parisian WiFi X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:20:54 -0000 Yup, it's a common thing. If you remember from RIPE 64 in Ljubljana (At least Randy and Ondrej were there) we were geo-located near a golf course in Honolulu :-) ~Carlos On 2012-07-31 3:17 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> It's the prefix. > i believe it is the bssid. they believe that over gps and gsm tower. > > randy > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From randy@psg.com Tue Jul 31 15:22:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DEF11E814D for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:22:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.23 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.23 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.231, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_51=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oBmvZ7-gJepP for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C5221F86BE for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SwKpR-0000g8-33; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:22:13 +0000 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:22:12 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: "Carlos M. Martinez" In-Reply-To: <50185A3D.90107@lacnic.net> References: <4BC5F92B-2068-4E28-B8B6-EFB3F3849BBC@nic.cz> <50185A3D.90107@lacnic.net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: =?UTF-8?B?T25kxZllaiA=?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sur=FD?= , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Scott Brim Subject: Re: [84attendees] Parisian WiFi X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:22:18 -0000 > If you remember from RIPE 64 in Ljubljana (At least Randy and Ondrej > were there) we were geo-located near a golf course in Honolulu :-) no. waikaloa on the island of hawai`i, at the opposite end of the main islands from o'ahu, where honolulu is. randy From Olaf.Bonness@telekom.de Tue Jul 31 15:40:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3DA21F87F8 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.89.102 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:46:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:46:50 -0700 Message-ID: From: Bill Fenner To: Tim Bray Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmgIrkTt2lbH1XSw2uI2KqToV1D8pNRqhZ1Rjuyt5iC+tIUE4uKVf5yJ5LScpkATNrQZhv4 Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Parisian WiFi X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:46:51 -0000 On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Tim Bray wrote: > My wifi-only Android tablet has geolocated itself in Paris, based on where > Google (I suppose) thinks this SSID lives. There are at least two things that need to update meeting after meeting: - Prefix-based geolocation. Prefix-based services largely geolocate us in Prague; some of these services (e.g., whatever Netflix uses) may have updated today to locate us in Vancouver. - BSSID-based geolocation. This one has put us all over the place, from Oregon to Hawaii to Paris. Some of these services update their data every quarter, making it hard to get a timely update for hardware that roams the globe. We're slowly making contacts inside geolocation providers, and trying to figure out how best to update the location services to reflect the actual location of the meeting. Bill From scott.brim@gmail.com Tue Jul 31 15:57:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3578E21F88FF for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:57:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.584 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.584 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f7k5WId107uP for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gg0-f172.google.com (mail-gg0-f172.google.com [209.85.161.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD20D21F88F5 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ggnc4 with SMTP id c4so7195952ggn.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:57:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=Fe3CxElk7TqoBomzVCh+Vl8shvnSufsUzvSuj6lQy/0=; b=GFNd2ZE2cQci50cEreiYW903hrxD5X8pFBje4Irpg5vrl3yqZZTIuv6T9LCoNSQZRV ocB4DdkNauHISHAJNl0rO6YS8Tspu/L68LQypBBI0cAyVAAPrPROppaZlCC9Ttmg1yf0 ImwBxo/NqP2e+Qkqaf+i35PjcKrtIVPk6afLzdpgt0xFtc25W2BOUaweflDsFiLEyCeH mPSakgHGqBKflWmf6G4Fd+3O7B4OU+XxCJR4r4SrtqfaMNanNLtU8vtI0/ACRnUXyr8E 9TPVVk+9dNwhrpief413GJHBTp4t6MIj8IVxaLY7309S38DPLJwSBp8SZF+ZG0opTQSu CEZg== Received: by 10.68.220.231 with SMTP id pz7mr46402633pbc.110.1343775446770; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:57:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.48.231 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:57:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Scott Brim Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:57:06 -0700 Message-ID: To: Bill Fenner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org, Tim Bray Subject: Re: [84attendees] Parisian WiFi X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:57:28 -0000 > We're slowly making contacts inside geolocation providers, and trying > to figure out how best to update the location services to reflect the > actual location of the meeting. I suppose, but don't hurry, I enjoy discovering where I am when I show up to a meeting. From peer2peer@gmail.com Tue Jul 31 16:54:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F1921F897F for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:54:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.311 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.311 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.287, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9RhrQzY1cbBX for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21CB21F899E for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wgbfm10 with SMTP id fm10so3801302wgb.1 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:54:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=oUlLaa5Uu/fF1Zhx2DYyRhmlJukHnzmB6xdfw+CwuN0=; b=nPYb1dSDzA3vVy5635h7knhEdy0TD378u3AMJXvCI5v6ywTT006g3z/SURmoPu59ge hDj87qhk22To+gAndaL62ZMF2Said6YS0oCQzjz90xkghMQ4EJADZgHbLtpMB6OCo63s 3UahiZgUMC17Ti2m0/xPCW9K39aP4sOBKp19XfhufJ02cGkDJ9IsJB6/9zaub6XjnJrM Z2Unzo6C/Y7wzygQCb/wH/DL8IGpqtYXUlXJuQujH/Ftme6SA90wlX1hCC17RVEvm5di zsBuv2CvHgAw0EtGkJMIl2Kp4lXahIAfZSubEXaoPFexxAsxIgI9QUYvyMKHfl4EVcvE 4S4w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.136.95 with SMTP id v73mr7328067wei.2.1343778892081; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.144.107 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.144.107 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:54:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 01:54:51 +0200 Message-ID: From: Johan Pouwelse To: 84attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6de00ef84ea5504c628e791 Subject: [84attendees] Bar BoF: Media without censorship (Wednesday 20:00, Regency A) X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 23:54:56 -0000 --0016e6de00ef84ea5504c628e791 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear All, At the upcoming IETF meeting we're organizing a bar BoF around enhancing privacy and reducing censorship. Feel free to drop by. We start in room regency A and probably will go really informal after 30min, in a actual bar context: Steamworks Brewing, 375 Water Street, Vancouver, http://m.google.com/u/m/zr4u7R Bar BoF name: Media without censorship (CensorFree) Location: IETF 84, Vancouver, Canada Date: 1st Aug 2012, 20:00 (Wednesday) Room: Regency A Promo slides: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-tsvarea-0.pdf(prestented at TVSArea meeting) Discussion doc: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pouwelse-censorfree-scenarios/ Technology status: initial running code Abstract: This document describes some scenarios in which one can imagine that the ability of authoritarian regime to censor news dissemination is reduced. It tries to draw some conclusions about what's desirable and what's not acceptable for users in those scenarios. The CensorFree objective is to standardize the protocols for microblogging on smartphones with a focus on security and censorship resistance. Microblog entries are short text messages, possibly enriched with pictures or streaming video. The goal is to devise protocols which guard against all known forms of censorship such as: cyberspace sabotage, digital eavesdropping, infiltration, fraud, Internet kill switches and lawyer-based attacks with the best known protective methods. The discussion document lists some scenarios, but is still very much a work in progress. Hopefully the knowledge from draft-iab-privacy-considerations-03 and draft-iab-privacy-terminology-01 can be included in this doc real soon. -Johan Pouwelse, Delft University of Technology --0016e6de00ef84ea5504c628e791 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear All,
At the upcoming IETF meeting we're organizing a bar BoF around enhancin= g privacy and reducing censorship. Feel free to drop by. We start in room r= egency A and probably will go really informal after 30min, in a actual bar = context: Steamworks Brewing, 375 Water Street, Vancouver, http://m.google.com/u/m/zr4u7R

Bar BoF name: =A0 =A0Media without censorship (CensorFree) Location: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0IETF 84, Vancouver, Canada
Date: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0 1st Aug 2012, =A020:00 (Wednes= day)
Room: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Regency A
Promo slides:=A0=A0=A0=A0 http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slid= es-84-tsvarea-0.pdf (prestented at TVSArea meeting)
Discussion doc:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pouwelse-censorfree-scenarios= /
Technology status: initial running code
Abstract:
=A0 =A0 This document describes some scenarios in which one can imagine tha= t
=A0 =A0 the ability of authoritarian regime to censor news dissemination is=
=A0 =A0 reduced. =A0It tries to draw some conclusions about what's desi= rable
=A0 =A0 and what's not acceptable for users in those scenarios.
=A0 =A0 The CensorFree objective is to standardize the protocols for
=A0 =A0 microblogging on smartphones with a focus on security and censorshi= p
=A0 =A0 resistance. =A0Microblog entries are short text messages, possibly<= br> =A0 =A0 enriched with pictures or streaming video. =A0The goal is to devise=
=A0 =A0 protocols which guard against all known forms of censorship such as= :
=A0 =A0 cyberspace sabotage, digital eavesdropping, infiltration, fraud, =A0 =A0 Internet kill switches and lawyer-based attacks with the best known=
=A0 =A0 protective methods.

The discussion document lists some scenarios, but is still v= ery much a work in progress.
Hopefully the knowledge from draft-iab-privacy-considerations-03 and
draft-iab-privacy-terminology-01 can be included in this doc real soon.

=A0 =A0-Johan Pouwelse, Delft University of Technology

--0016e6de00ef84ea5504c628e791-- From victor.kuarsingh@gmail.com Tue Jul 31 17:01:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B39611E8161 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:01:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.202 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.202 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0OUICImLTQgi for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E59011E8138 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pbbjt11 with SMTP id jt11so83693pbb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:01:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id:thread-topic :mime-version:content-type; bh=t12irymL/n0qFSFeumM/5A8ugjpenwfQGfOmEuQMpRQ=; b=kwQZX6dEgh5JljN+dfzdPJicF+0mQx9XVLdmCOEf+puaVuIASy+pYmw3lCEF2ibAyB /du3edTJ0sJz/T9Wojb53cAkvTKZBqZfXYZ+Tn1n+az5DIhyL8c7QNyEekDaQWm6NzpX GC3fzqtCxxYfrnSWzAz/jAbjSevje7lquk4eY97zjCajAQkRObG6ZRhD/PUEgbdV/10C 9lRRWWLZHnS72gGJN/sFhTrMVERUcBkKg+Dtdz4Poyg1cnOrdpgGo+FxleG+shUzlDjW VDlYQBBK2Z+ubn70uD3Z3xTp2RPCNY7Oo5FO9nes6T4EF/RTiN4/4qRPagHd7sJAC1qs Lrew== Received: by 10.68.135.69 with SMTP id pq5mr126294pbb.135.1343779280483; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.129.19.190] (dhcp-13be.meeting.ietf.org. [130.129.19.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pe2sm1242368pbc.59.2012.07.31.17.01.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:01:18 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.0.0.100825 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:01:13 -0700 From: Victor Kuarsingh To: <84attendees@ietf.org> Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Extra Social Ticket Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3426598877_16539173" Subject: [84attendees] Extra Social Ticket X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:01:21 -0000 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3426598877_16539173 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Anyone have an extra social ticket they want to sell? (contact me off-list) Victor K --B_3426598877_16539173 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
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--B_3426598877_16539173-- From morrowc@google.com Tue Jul 31 17:19:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280C921F88C5 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:19:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.827 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.827 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D4qIqUsCeeK7 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D0621F88AE for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lagv3 with SMTP id v3so4547077lag.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:19:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-system-of-record; bh=WY84jPHWoglcWp83tae/l3ySzp3hqhBZZFYBVBvVEQY=; b=N6XbnN/iFB+lfjX50Z8lyIWpWdCrSAAorAbhgM4mts+SmFK5FdYEdgwJpfpKNm7fCT xCMPgEcDTrebcrJ7wUY20omniDGw2ajcalu6dwgWIIN0e3f43/tE84+F3Vac4jem3Qp0 kJVNL/h+Nqxwrj+WTrLloqGgOjzqiP1cCN1qlYohYlzuedT8RdGzwJjHRyqqBfbKz5eg TglFOY3ud84jjNL9ADrXLtbYYZqrAOKejR4v1Zr6GNZQ4cDoTwkqX2upkilJKJKLldux FoOLr5F4dGbNYEVeSrIxKrsbbvPflpJJEBo52uPML/YtbUN7yI1eR3t/J8SrPTuJog+D Qtew== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-system-of-record:x-gm-message-state; bh=WY84jPHWoglcWp83tae/l3ySzp3hqhBZZFYBVBvVEQY=; b=dp+7n2x4AaqtMRkE7qTVqPqvL/i5L6C7RD2vMjxJ9O1cqqEI2tcMphlpKbearylAza 5nGtkUP854HYriGqmP/apPdFgeunI+wzp87BshW7a7S7rrwRAM+qO6vL8efe4AfNwyyq F75EspM7K9yojAyxKBpN0IZgESh0jnaMJNubz6M4b+aH2QkKYei9E6cv9X6UMPRcYNEM GncjstyDjXdniWK76E1Q3wBEbWEI1GPoxyoCS12jR3aiac1xrVYTk3Z18nHxl4hAP7Mv b/lrn2vHzvKClaQCphqo4JUFNvTqHYdiS30o8mtD1nfZP7/U+ktsrL75qeZ1SnGteohI 7sGw== Received: by 10.112.104.100 with SMTP id gd4mr7449176lbb.24.1343780363112; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:19:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.104.100 with SMTP id gd4mr7449171lbb.24.1343780362997; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.1.103 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:19:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:19:22 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Morrow To: Victor Kuarsingh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-System-Of-Record: true X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl+jzbFLVuOUF/Ryh9/JsCdJXDxg3buDlE/q1y8xe4I/Oma13wZa/MmPURi66T3Ob/Mh0/4NLkEhZeM9Ppi9TOayXCw/9HM0ZKY0LDFHMG1C7eTCCksV0RMXRlFhQqmPWRcYty7r33mLiYtBa+iz5Z2CBeZQD/CSM+bjYY32hK+Vu+UG9oe2nTD7LKCeCld246Arf7h Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Extra Social Ticket X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:19:25 -0000 there are some at the registration desk... 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(contact me off-list) > > Victor K > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees > From dominique.barthel@orange.com Tue Jul 31 17:23:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A28D21F88C5 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:23:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IDxz3ZiJr0St for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relais-inet.francetelecom.com (relais-ias91.francetelecom.com [193.251.215.91]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B6E21F88BA for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omfedm07.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.3]) by omfedm14.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 6A82122C61D for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 02:23:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Exchangemail-eme1.itn.ftgroup (unknown [10.114.1.183]) by omfedm07.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 51BD24C015 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 02:23:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::cc7e:e40b:42ef:164e]) by PEXCVZYH02.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 02:23:19 +0200 From: To: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: car ride to Burlington, WA on Friday afternoon ? 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X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:23:23 -0000 --_000_8F1D83ADCC1AC94186A867BEE9B7D91302D069PEXCVZYM13corpora_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I'm contemplating spending the week-end in the San Juan Islands. The ferry access point is Anacortes (off Burlington, WA on Highway 5), whic= h I would need to reach Friday evening, 8pm. I've checked AMTRAK trains and coaches, they won't work for me since they o= ffer very limited service, and hardly any stop on the way to Seattle. Plus = I can't leave Vancouver before 2pm(-ish). The drive seems to be only about 2 hours. By any chance, is there any IETFe= r who's going to drive down the coast on Friday afternoon and could drop me= off at Burlington? 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Hello all,

 

I’m contemplating spendin= g the week-end in the San Juan Islands.

The ferry access point is Anaco= rtes (off Burlington, WA on Highway 5), which I would need to reach Friday = evening, 8pm.

I’ve checked AMTRAK train= s and coaches, they won’t work for me since they offer very limited s= ervice, and hardly any stop on the way to Seattle. Plus I can’t leave= Vancouver before 2pm(-ish).

The drive seems to be only abou= t 2 hours. By any chance, is there any IETFer who’s going to drive do= wn the coast on Friday afternoon and could drop me off at Burlington?<= /o:p>

Thanks,

 

Dominique

 

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--_000_8F1D83ADCC1AC94186A867BEE9B7D91302D069PEXCVZYM13corpora_-- From nitinb@juniper.net Tue Jul 31 17:24:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BCE21F891A for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:24:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FUDN63NfEEHv for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:24:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og125.obsmtp.com (exprod7og125.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.28]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1125B21F8900 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob125.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUBh3PFG81YfPrCn1gSADutrHT6Tsk8Cd@postini.com; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:24:30 PDT Received: from EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net ([fe80::18fe:d666:b43e:f97e]) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net ([fe80::fc92:eb1:759:2c72%11]) with mapi; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:24:11 -0700 From: Nitin Bahadur To: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:24:10 -0700 Thread-Topic: Social ticket available. Thread-Index: Ac1s+7xCO7rEcsq8SEa0RB+dqp0hBACgDv5O Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20500.17654.736434.375802@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [84attendees] Social ticket available. X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:24:37 -0000 If anyone needs a social ticket, let me know. Thanks Nitin From bob.hinden@gmail.com Tue Jul 31 17:25:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3562821F84C5 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:25:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8tC0xeadlDgX for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com (mail-we0-f172.google.com [74.125.82.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F4611E808E for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by weyu54 with SMTP id u54so5329802wey.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:25:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=D+7VkzJwUuZrpKc0zVMxemNOW38J+ziUeDqhV5XFhKY=; b=YH8bbk+FCkrCJocI3ZMIgaSjeX+qNuay42tVQxbsO21qQnqg/K1MIVXtkEsMPRFuqk NMrwkbBWLXnjGq2khYT5Xj0gR6rePjyjmrrfibZ1pewcftxpoD9x4ekmcmur/5Verz93 Ndy2c9TpE0SasOlhp2/U59nvKgA/X5fJXty+Iof1Cls+vr749x82AjUExWtujWK7xdKz 2qPvpIxQeDSGfSaqZ++iQ+TKszG6qA02b5EUv8YYTeTDE/PYJ/NdcWLxR0yAu6406bQx hYOKq2rORnWVvziaUdtMqFphihMLKeXglN8HdkbfLMoB8jDWqA7aZy6Hq3c/W6Emy/ka oOvA== Received: by 10.180.99.196 with SMTP id es4mr7185001wib.18.1343780747940; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-625e.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-625e.meeting.ietf.org. [130.129.98.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o2sm4240608wiz.11.2012.07.31.17.25.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1280) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:25:24 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Rajeev Bector X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1280) Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org, Bob Hinden Subject: Re: [84attendees] Stanley Park from 3:30-6:30 today X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:25:50 -0000 By the way, the Vancouver Aquarium in Stanley Park is very nice. I went = there on Saturday. Bob =20 On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:05 PM, Rajeev Bector wrote: > I dont have anything that I want to attend today afternoon so I am = going to stroll over to Stanley Park. I start at 3:30 and plan to come = back by 6:30 (before the social event). > If anyone wants to join, send me an email. (please be ready to walk = for 3 hours). >=20 > Rajeev > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From david.kessens@nsn.com Tue Jul 31 18:00:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9367621F8861 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:00:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2DgEBMrf6vBs for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (demumfd001.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.32]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6CFE21F885E for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.56]) by demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q71105v9021014 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 1 Aug 2012 03:00:05 +0200 Received: from P ([10.138.51.181]) by demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q711037Q031271; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 03:00:04 +0200 Received: from P (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by P (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q71103YP002565; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:00:03 -0700 Received: (from david@localhost) by P (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q71102Zs002546; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:00:02 -0700 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:59:02 -0700 From: David Kessens To: dominique.barthel@orange.com Message-ID: <20120801005902.GC2361@nsn.com> References: <8045_1343780600_501876F8_8045_16882_1_8F1D83ADCC1AC94186A867BEE9B7D91302D069@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8045_1343780600_501876F8_8045_16882_1_8F1D83ADCC1AC94186A867BEE9B7D91302D069@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-purgate-type: clean X-purgate-Ad: Categorized by eleven eXpurgate (R) http://www.eleven.de X-purgate: clean X-purgate: This mail is considered clean (visit http://www.eleven.de for further information) X-purgate-size: 577 X-purgate-ID: 151667::1343782806-000055D8-466E8A25/0-0/0-0 Cc: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [84attendees] car ride to Burlington, WA on Friday afternoon ? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 01:00:16 -0000 Dominique, On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 12:23:19AM +0000, dominique.barthel@orange.com wrote: > > I'm contemplating spending the week-end in the San Juan Islands. > The ferry access point is Anacortes (off Burlington, WA on Highway 5), which I would need to reach Friday evening, 8pm. > I've checked AMTRAK trains and coaches, they won't work for me since they offer very limited service, and hardly any stop on the way to Seattle. Plus I can't leave Vancouver before 2pm(-ish). Could this bus service work for you: http://www.quickcoach.com/ David Kessens --- From tomasz.mrugalski@gmail.com Tue Jul 31 18:03:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF65621F8861 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:03:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.562 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.562 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fnhFKkz8lfnK for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com (mail-yx0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E1421F881E for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yenq13 with SMTP id q13so7291194yen.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:03:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=byX8QHI+ViBcbLhxWRhqNFCIR/isAW/fCcXR29NwlJc=; b=V0Vh3ozKmK3CLkbk6G7dg961Sf/ZkG5XGleVDxcnmvxsjiML81vBbMtjFAPtviLSTZ nabdQdCqByhNjYMWnv9GsRa6wAY4G1jcZsRK1bod4rSK4WZQMPAI7Wnqtbxb7l1KTMqp 1sXz5oH4MM9gVbx6eqB8nMv0ooQso9LMtTXOr/Uq93Gq1VGdk/cKR7+v/MMKuk4bpK2g bRcaN5tH2buaqj9sQCVC2Cxj4C6yzJHkXkTBFE/Fibka1VlzF3ulZW+M1pE4ilO+wxiw Rt6LOAjwXqAKLKnVs1aJk87/eJ/SzWzqcSV1imUqCSHGczzRVSpHkk8jLFkXJUSkG7JC lKdg== Received: by 10.66.76.130 with SMTP id k2mr36085707paw.19.1343783015641; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-4536.meeting.ietf.org ([2001:df8:0:64:cabc:c8ff:fedf:daff]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id qb10sm1351089pbc.21.2012.07.31.18.03.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50188063.4050706@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:03:31 -0700 From: Tomek Mrugalski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [84attendees] Social ticket available X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 01:03:37 -0000 If anyone wants a ticket, let me know. Tomek From johnl@taugh.com Tue Jul 31 18:25:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D562C21F8759 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:25:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.588 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.588 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.012, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id elEOtPhIm4HG for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B2421F8755 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 98519 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2012 01:25:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=180d6.501885a5.k1207; bh=ask94hI+Dhux7KX/ScvOQoKpebHofpaaoygCpFsVK8w=; b=jgBC3q2645hOOYwTPuPOgyLEsQg5r7x1QQsO+CMgQcH9Gwecz7i9ro2fVdrLR6VrXvoNocx7BDBjY059p9M59cdC5U5kYhLVfsf/O+S5+Ndg4EiDkMiLnZ1y3FZQzoB2osyMEg76CDEdXhROENvVRGNJ0YHRFktbxq3peeWRk7M= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=180d6.501885a5.k1207; bh=ask94hI+Dhux7KX/ScvOQoKpebHofpaaoygCpFsVK8w=; b=geL8naV2k73EK+NMIgpuwEaHf00bRIRLz+FRa4SfxZt2iuJj4So1jaS0QEqhzxINJfke1eE6ezKzUdIjVbduzmYJ4C+G6d8Ry0sBU7e4TVeaL4XHsPPc9JXL8bN3EcsYzDd2VVgQ9XveOGqmqFzEs4duXREcCoARwDkauGPfOzk= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 1 Aug 2012 01:25:35 -0000 Date: 31 Jul 2012 18:25:56 -0700 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: 84attendees@ietf.org User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [84attendees] car ride to Burlington, WA on Friday afternoon ? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 01:25:59 -0000 >> I'm contemplating spending the week-end in the San Juan Islands. > Could this bus service work for you: http://www.quickcoach.com/ It doesn't stop in Burlington, probably not. Plan B: the San Juan Island ferries go to Vancouver Island, where Victoria is. You can get to Victoria via the little float planes in Coal Harbour, or the Pacific Coach bus which goes from to Tsawwassen and takes the to Victoria. In Victoria you can take the #72 local bus to Sidney, where the ferry to Anacortes leaves. Bus to Victoria: http://www.pacificcoach.com/Bus-Coach-Travel/Crosswater/Vancouver-to-Victoria Local bus in Victoria/Sidney: http://bctransit.com/regions/vic/schedules/map.cfm?line=72 WA state ferry from Sidney to Anacortes: http://www.wsdot.com/Ferries/Schedule/ScheduleDetailByRoute.aspx?route=ana-sid This is probably too much for anyone who isn't a transit weenie, but the IETF sure has its share of us transit weenies. R's, John From rdroms.ietf@gmail.com Tue Jul 31 18:29:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65DCA11E80E7 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:29:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_I_LETTER=-2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HhPJkBL4a8cu for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41FF11E8189 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pbbjt11 with SMTP id jt11so192970pbb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:29:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=5YZS6rE7tNbMNzAy6FnZCl3GB3LXjC7KOzp12WnsbFo=; b=HTsrvpSWbtfb4MelrfULAO3d1ieJX1B0XFOR8WJYeIItr2sHg43yqw/kjJWBV0EC7+ SKjUsLXTsb3xKzPypaE7T6pXA6QrVbab8pHcVKtWdrjQIPv4S/Rn8+abeGzW3lI8Phjz iMHdxBEvABKIIKZLVfVRPRswX3XQivnhuCOIJKG+7uXRutTjsLH0Jr1M+mD9HYVknbM0 5Y7JqRxtRtB9KDfDCkgsw8t4xGfePcNGIdZvUg2v+zG4MxObBZM66npJSjMCIgs5gHlv JFLMOPYRu3vy32J16PlgfDVN1NKKcpEoNFLfnvZ99sTYAF3mcvCnHvcBx7u6HI6XmMzw cJAg== Received: by 10.68.237.74 with SMTP id va10mr47885701pbc.46.1343784580964; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjc-vpn7-1298.cisco.com (128-107-239-233.cisco.com. [128.107.239.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jy7sm1379988pbc.71.2012.07.31.18.29.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ralph Droms In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:29:37 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <84A5C61F-D4BB-4458-B5C7-15AA4C47F6FC@gmail.com> References: <427EECAA-339F-4872-B508-23F49247D743@gmail.com> To: Ole Jacobsen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] Canada->US postage stamps X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 01:29:44 -0000 But I'm not likely to need to send a letter next time... - Ralph On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:54 AM 7/31/12, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > Like the currency in your pocket, they will work next time. > > We're coming back here in 15 months or so. > > Save them. > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > Skype: organdemo > > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, Ralph Droms wrote: > >> I have 5 extra postage stamps appropriate for sending an envelope >> from here to the US. If you can use one, let me know; I'd rather >> give them away than throw them away. >> >> - Ralph >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 84attendees mailing list >> 84attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees >> From paulitrix@gmail.com Tue Jul 31 18:50:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBE521F858A for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:49:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E-Iw3HTWxJG8 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74ED721F84E4 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pbbjt11 with SMTP id jt11so218409pbb.31 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:49:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=3auxSj20+hYVA34WSwleb/jAulE61+O3EwSIUYoTjKk=; b=BXH/95lTvPLf/SDx4lKR4m3b3jDLVvH1FlRN702N7HUOXs37SSl0HKCZ8ShtgMvRxn /WBOEIL86BgF6Uybe9wMsUUJJgDchGxkNPfq8EPZcfEURgvwusbesicN8n/7R5X0xk3s jlKddxBu1i97TdopdazMaWHHJM4I0Jc+76fIOaViwYOxXaQtEVSGMijIxOmMnXFhop/B iMl8ullbeqL6xwL4gzlMomFyrx6x7WzPT4VE0ZVzhvm1mfUInteoC5iFYQ3t+BgUX5UK MouVil0ZqoE7Udr3AAZrYKejUNIS6XD2RqV69AK+KO/Lm3h3uIYzEMdEvfv7q4iXkk0v Sy8w== Received: by 10.66.9.2 with SMTP id v2mr36142349paa.65.1343785799236; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.129.66.110] (dhcp-426e.meeting.ietf.org. [130.129.66.110]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pj10sm1421720pbb.46.2012.07.31.18.49.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:49:58 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) From: Paul M Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:50:26 -0700 To: Bob Hinden Cc: Rajeev Bector , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org>, Bob Hinden Subject: Re: [84attendees] Stanley Park from 3:30-6:30 today X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 01:50:00 -0000 Been to Stanley park also. Great place.=20 :-) Paul M On 31 Jul 2012, at 17:25, Bob Hinden wrote: > By the way, the Vancouver Aquarium in Stanley Park is very nice. I went t= here on Saturday. >=20 > Bob >=20 > On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:05 PM, Rajeev Bector wrote: >=20 >> I dont have anything that I want to attend today afternoon so I am going t= o stroll over to Stanley Park. I start at 3:30 and plan to come back by 6:30= (before the social event). >> If anyone wants to join, send me an email. (please be ready to walk for 3= hours). >>=20 >> Rajeev >> _______________________________________________ >> 84attendees mailing list >> 84attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees From Jordan.Melzer@telus.com Tue Jul 31 20:39:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333AA21F8711 for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:39:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CcF8tYF8YVlT for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from donder.nssi.telus.com (donder.nssi.telus.com [208.38.59.82]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10E621F8710 for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:39:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: s=donder.nssi; d=telus.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result:X-IronPort-AV:Received: Received:From:To:Date:Subject:Thread-Topic:Thread-Index: Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To:Accept-Language: Content-Language:X-MS-Has-Attach:X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage:Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=UNPX18pzBrKy6ZoIpp0MZfYBEFPF8iMCYlvR+83jQPepdHOxVHtBYGwn +Qjefc4dHMMptHCQpq5BjD1I7QpLI9MrGok9hUSpkOOR2WCx72F02O9fV VzVkqAkiGc5wxYGQylNUc57bsbPsUS9e8XB2aVyxUprHff5XgibYCCeTI k=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFAKykGFCOsmOS/2dsb2JhbABFgkqhS5VmgQeCIAEBBS0mEyMCAQgNBAQBASgHMhQJCAEBBAESCBeHbgG8V4tdhhVgA4hNkneKEIJ+gTcJ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,691,1336348800"; d="scan'208,217";a="419502237" Received: from unknown (HELO WP40081.corp.ads) ([142.178.99.146]) by donder-o.nssi.telus.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 01 Aug 2012 03:39:24 +0000 Received: from WP40046.corp.ads ([::1]) by WP40081.corp.ads ([::1]) with mapi; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:39:23 -0600 From: Jordan Melzer To: "dominique.barthel@orange.com" , "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:39:23 -0600 Thread-Topic: car ride to Burlington, WA on Friday afternoon ? Thread-Index: Ac1ve9l73fj6XLBuRri7Qwh3A3oAkAAD8NNA Message-ID: <80C0017654A043479F53C41112BE847686483B39A7@WP40046.corp.ads> References: <8045_1343780600_501876F8_8045_16882_1_8F1D83ADCC1AC94186A867BEE9B7D91302D069@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> In-Reply-To: <8045_1343780600_501876F8_8045_16882_1_8F1D83ADCC1AC94186A867BEE9B7D91302D069@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_80C0017654A043479F53C41112BE847686483B39A7WP40046corpad_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [84attendees] car ride to Burlington, WA on Friday afternoon ? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 03:39:37 -0000 --_000_80C0017654A043479F53C41112BE847686483B39A7WP40046corpad_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dominique, I'm heading to some of the islands on the Canadian side. I can get you as = far as the Tsawwassen Ferry terminal (6:30 ish), Swartz Bay (8:45pm), Sidne= y, or Victoria (9:15pm), but not until after the last ferry has left on the= San Juan (Sidney - Anacortes) route. If you're interested in at least get= ting to some island by Friday night and don't mind sharing a car with a ver= y sweet toddler, you can come along with us. There is a large festival on Hornby Island this weekend. We'll be spending= one night in Victoria and one on Salt Spring Island. Jordan From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of dominique.barthel@orange.com Sent: July-31-12 5:23 PM To: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: [84attendees] car ride to Burlington, WA on Friday afternoon ? Hello all, I'm contemplating spending the week-end in the San Juan Islands. The ferry access point is Anacortes (off Burlington, WA on Highway 5), whic= h I would need to reach Friday evening, 8pm. I've checked AMTRAK trains and coaches, they won't work for me since they o= ffer very limited service, and hardly any stop on the way to Seattle. Plus = I can't leave Vancouver before 2pm(-ish). The drive seems to be only about 2 hours. By any chance, is there any IETFe= r who's going to drive down the coast on Friday afternoon and could drop me= off at Burlington? 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Hi Dominique,

 

<= span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I’m heading to some of the islands on th= e Canadian side.  I can get you as far as the Tsawwassen Ferry termina= l (6:30 ish), Swartz Bay (8:45pm), Sidney, or Victoria (9:15pm), but not un= til after the last ferry has left on the San Juan (Sidney – Anacortes= ) route.  If you’re interested in at least getting to some islan= d by Friday night and don’t mind sharing a car with a very sweet todd= ler, you can come along with us.

=  

There is a large festival on Hornby Islan= d this weekend.  We’ll be spending one night in Victoria and one= on Salt Spring Island.

 

Jordan

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From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org= [mailto:84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of dominique.barthe= l@orange.com
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Subject: [84attendees] car ride to Burlington, WA on Frid= ay afternoon ?

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Hello all,

 

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>I’m contemplating spending the= week-end in the San Juan Islands.

The ferry access point is Anacortes (off Burlington, W= A on Highway 5), which I would need to reach Friday evening, 8pm.

I’ve checked AMTR= AK trains and coaches, they won’t work for me since they offer very l= imited service, and hardly any stop on the way to Seattle. Plus I can’= ;t leave Vancouver before 2pm(-ish).

The drive seems to be only about 2 hours. By any cha= nce, is there any IETFer who’s going to drive down the coast on Frida= y afternoon and could drop me off at Burlington?

Thanks,

 

Dominique

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= --_000_80C0017654A043479F53C41112BE847686483B39A7WP40046corpad_-- From Jordan.Melzer@telus.com Tue Jul 31 20:57:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD7421F876A for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:57:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MrHepKWG1t-e for <84attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orkaan.nssi.telus.com (orkaan.nssi.telus.com [208.38.59.78]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CA121F875D for <84attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:57:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: s=orkaan.nssi; d=telus.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result:X-IronPort-AV:Received: Received:From:To:Date:Subject:Thread-Topic:Thread-Index: Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To:Accept-Language: Content-Language:X-MS-Has-Attach:X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: MIME-Version; b=YmUCeWAHrBSKXjox8EymtkTwKfdQeCD2cySp+NB/qxyTbyfu1IZ+3CmR 7elvq7y2hazb/Q5CgsLuvm4XzaLTAPFvOlkwsS9dHlbjDoEkTN7/HTy57 IYnObB2uTOeNSa8fVNlB5FU+gPgb6wKrRiQCXfV6quHRwERlwjU0T0kMv E=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFAFeoGFCOsmOS/2dsb2JhbABFpBiVZoEHgiABAQEDAQEBATcZEwgQBwQCAQgHBgMBBAEBHwkHJwsUCQgBAQQTCId/BgEKvFWRcmADiE2ODoRpihCCfg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,691,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="443236008" Received: from unknown (HELO WP40081.corp.ads) ([142.178.99.146]) by orkaan-o.nssi.telus.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 01 Aug 2012 03:57:19 +0000 Received: from WP40046.corp.ads ([::1]) by WP40081.corp.ads ([::1]) with mapi; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:57:18 -0600 From: Jordan Melzer To: "84attendees@ietf.org" <84attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:57:18 -0600 Thread-Topic: [84attendees] car ride to Burlington, WA on Friday afternoon ? Thread-Index: Ac1vhJ8M8FSRfYYyTqOTO5l2KmFcxAAE6dzw Message-ID: <80C0017654A043479F53C41112BE847686483B39AD@WP40046.corp.ads> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [84attendees] car ride to Burlington, WA on Friday afternoon ? X-BeenThere: 84attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 84 attendees mailing list <84attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 03:57:21 -0000 Alternately, the Canada Line to Bridgeport Station then the 620 to Tsawwass= en, the Tsawwassen ferry to Swartz Bay and one of three different buses for= m Swartz Bay to Sidney would get one to the Sidney terminal in time to catc= h the 5:55pm San Juan ferry, but probably only if one left downtown before = about 1:30pm. I'm not sure how long boarding a ferry takes. -----Original Message----- From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of John R Levine Sent: July-31-12 6:26 PM To: 84attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [84attendees] car ride to Burlington, WA on Friday afternoon ? >> I'm contemplating spending the week-end in the San Juan Islands. > Could this bus service work for you: http://www.quickcoach.com/ It doesn't stop in Burlington, probably not. Plan B: the San Juan Island ferries go to Vancouver Island, where Victoria = is.=20 You can get to Victoria via the little float planes in Coal Harbour, or the= Pacific Coach bus which goes from to Tsawwassen and takes the to Victoria.= In Victoria you can take the #72 local bus to Sidney, where the ferry to = Anacortes leaves. Bus to Victoria:=20 http://www.pacificcoach.com/Bus-Coach-Travel/Crosswater/Vancouver-to-Victor= ia Local bus in Victoria/Sidney:=20 http://bctransit.com/regions/vic/schedules/map.cfm?line=3D72 WA state ferry from Sidney to Anacortes:=20 http://www.wsdot.com/Ferries/Schedule/ScheduleDetailByRoute.aspx?route=3Dan= a-sid This is probably too much for anyone who isn't a transit weenie, but the IE= TF sure has its share of us transit weenies. R's, John _______________________________________________ 84attendees mailing list 84attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees