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draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib-06.txt has been submitted for =
publication.  As it defines a RADIUS attribute, I'd like to get a review =
of the document from aaa-doctors.  In particular, is the complex =
datatype format of the attribute acceptable, or would some other format =
such as String carrying the DHCP 6rd option as opaque data be more =
appropriate?

- Ralph


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I have some questions about this document.=20

RFC 5080 Section 2.1.1 lays out the requirements for use of a State attribu=
te:=20

   The only permissible values for a State attribute are values provided=0A=
   in an Access-Accept=2C Access-Challenge=2C CoA-Request or Disconnect-=0A=
   Request packet.  A RADIUS client MUST use only those values for the=0A=
   State attribute that it has previously received from a server.  An=0A=
   Access-Request sent as a result of a new or restarted authentication=0A=
   run MUST NOT include the State attribute=2C even if a State attribute=0A=
   has previously been received in an Access-Challenge for the same user=0A=
   and port.
This requirement exists to ensure that a State attribute ties back to an au=
thenticated RADIUS session. =20

Within the document=2C the flow diagram describes "cooperation between DHCP=
 and RADIUS":

     6rd CE                       BNG                       AAA Server=0A=
         |                          |                             |=0A=
         |-------DHCPDISCOVER------>|                             |=0A=
         |                          |--Access-Request(6rd Attr)-->|=0A=
         |                          |                             |=0A=
         |                          |<--Access-Accept(6rd Attr)---|=0A=
         |<-------DHCPOFFER---------|                             |=0A=
         |                          |                             |=0A=
         |--------DHCPREQUEST------>|                             |=0A=
         |      (6rd Option)        |                             |=0A=
         |<--------DHCPACK----------|                             |=0A=
         |      (6rd option)        |                             |=0A=
         |                          |                             |=0A=
                   DHCP                         RADIUS=0A=
                Figure 1: the cooperation between DHCP and RADIUS
This=0A=
 diagram neither indicates that the RADIUS Access-Request/Accept =0A=
sequence is authenticated=2C nor does it show any previous previous =0A=
authenticated RADIUS interaction.   It therefore appears to violate the =0A=
RFC 5080 requirement.=20



> From: rdroms.ietf@gmail.com
> Date: Tue=2C 2 Oct 2012 11:37:07 -0400
> To: aaa-doctors@ietf.org
> Subject: [AAA-DOCTORS] draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib-06.txt
>=20
> draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib-06.txt has been submitted for publi=
cation.  As it defines a RADIUS attribute=2C I'd like to get a review of th=
e document from aaa-doctors.  In particular=2C is the complex datatype form=
at of the attribute acceptable=2C or would some other format such as String=
 carrying the DHCP 6rd option as opaque data be more appropriate?
>=20
> - Ralph
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>I have some questions about this=
 document. <br><br>RFC 5080 Section 2.1.1 lays out the requirements for use=
 of a State attribute: <br><br><pre>   The only permissible values for a St=
ate attribute are values provided=0A=
   in an Access-Accept=2C Access-Challenge=2C CoA-Request or Disconnect-=0A=
   Request packet.  A RADIUS client MUST use only those values for the=0A=
   State attribute that it has previously received from a server.  An=0A=
   Access-Request sent as a result of a new or restarted authentication=0A=
   run MUST NOT include the State attribute=2C even if a State attribute=0A=
   has previously been received in an Access-Challenge for the same user=0A=
   and port.</pre><br>This requirement exists to ensure that a State attrib=
ute ties back to an authenticated RADIUS session.&nbsp=3B <br><br>Within th=
e document=2C the flow diagram describes "cooperation between DHCP and RADI=
US":<br><br><pre class=3D"newpage">     6rd CE                       BNG   =
                    AAA Server=0A=
         |                          |                             |=0A=
         |-------DHCPDISCOVER------&gt=3B|                             |=0A=
         |                          |--Access-Request(6rd Attr)--&gt=3B|=0A=
         |                          |                             |=0A=
         |                          |&lt=3B--Access-Accept(6rd Attr)---|=0A=
         |&lt=3B-------DHCPOFFER---------|                             |=0A=
         |                          |                             |=0A=
         |--------DHCPREQUEST------&gt=3B|                             |=0A=
         |      (6rd Option)        |                             |=0A=
         |&lt=3B--------DHCPACK----------|                             |=0A=
         |      (6rd option)        |                             |=0A=
         |                          |                             |=0A=
                   DHCP                         RADIUS=0A=
                Figure 1: the cooperation between DHCP and RADIUS</pre><br>=
This=0A=
 diagram neither indicates that the RADIUS Access-Request/Accept =0A=
sequence is authenticated=2C nor does it show any previous previous =0A=
authenticated RADIUS interaction.&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B It therefore appears to v=
iolate the =0A=
RFC 5080 requirement. <br><br><br><br><div><div id=3D"SkyDrivePlaceholder">=
</div>&gt=3B From: rdroms.ietf@gmail.com<br>&gt=3B Date: Tue=2C 2 Oct 2012 =
11:37:07 -0400<br>&gt=3B To: aaa-doctors@ietf.org<br>&gt=3B Subject: [AAA-D=
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raft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib-06.txt has been submitted for publicat=
ion.  As it defines a RADIUS attribute=2C I'd like to get a review of the d=
ocument from aaa-doctors.  In particular=2C is the complex datatype format =
of the attribute acceptable=2C or would some other format such as String ca=
rrying the DHCP 6rd option as opaque data be more appropriate?<br>&gt=3B <b=
r>&gt=3B - Ralph<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B _____________________________________=
__________<br>&gt=3B AAA-DOCTORS mailing list<br>&gt=3B AAA-DOCTORS@ietf.or=
g<br>&gt=3B https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/aaa-doctors<br></div> 		 =
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Bernard Aboba wrote:
> I have some questions about this document.
> 
> RFC 5080 Section 2.1.1 lays out the requirements for use of a State
> attribute:
...
> This requirement exists to ensure that a State attribute ties back to an
> authenticated RADIUS session. 

  The document references RFC 5080, and says:

   In the abovementioned scenario, the Access-Request packet contains a
   Service-Type attribute with the value Authorize Only (17), thus
   according to [RFC5080] the Access-Request packet MUST contain a State
   attribute.

  They seem to have missed the paragraph you quoted.  It is immediately
above the paragraph requiring State for Authorize Only.

> This diagram neither indicates that the RADIUS Access-Request/Accept
> sequence is authenticated, nor does it show any previous previous
> authenticated RADIUS interaction.   It therefore appears to violate the
> RFC 5080 requirement.

  The document repeatedly refers to "authentication", where no
authentication is taking place:

   ... A 6rd configuration request may
   also be sent in the same message. If the user authentication is
   approved by the AAA server,

  There is no "user", and no credentials supplied for authentication.

  My reading is that State was added solely to satisfy portions of RFC
5080.  I think it, and all references to 5080 should be removed from the
draft.

  Since no user authentication is taking place, perhaps a better
suggestion would be to allocate a new Service-Type, of
IPv6-6rd-Configuration.  The Access-Request could contain:

	Service-Type = IPv6-6rd-Configuration
	IPv6-6rd-Configuration = ... data ...

  RADIUS servers should be able to key off of the Service-Type to
distinguish 6rd requests from all other RADIUS requests.  They can then
respond correctly, even though no user credentials are in the request.

  The draft should also replace the four references to "authentication"
on page 4 with "authorization".

  The format of the IPv6-6rf-Configuration attribute is not ideal.  This
is OK, as the RADIUS extensions document has not been published.  The
only suggestions I would have are:

- make the IPv4MaskLen field 32 bits long.  RFC 6158 Section A.2.1 has
this text forbidding 8-bit fields:

      * Unsigned integers of size other than 32 bits.
        SHOULD be replaced by an unsigned integer of 32 bits.  There is
        insufficient justification to define a new size of integer.

- make it clear that since the subtypes have values, they can appear in
any order.  e.g. subtype 1,2,3 is OK, but so is subtype order 2,3,1 and
3,2,1.

- if new subtypes are envisioned, then an IANA registry for subtypes
should be allocated, subject to expert review, or IETF consensus

  Alan DeKok.

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Bernard, Alan - thanks for your feedback on =
draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib-06

Authors - please review this feedback and revise your document =
appropriately.  Once the aaa-doctors are satisfied with the revisions, =
I'll proceed with IETF last call and IESG review. =20

- Ralph

On Oct 2, 2012, at 2:46 PM 10/2/12, Alan DeKok wrote:

> Bernard Aboba wrote:
>> I have some questions about this document.
>>=20
>> RFC 5080 Section 2.1.1 lays out the requirements for use of a State
>> attribute:
> ...
>> This requirement exists to ensure that a State attribute ties back to =
an
>> authenticated RADIUS session.=20
>=20
>  The document references RFC 5080, and says:
>=20
>   In the abovementioned scenario, the Access-Request packet contains a
>   Service-Type attribute with the value Authorize Only (17), thus
>   according to [RFC5080] the Access-Request packet MUST contain a =
State
>   attribute.
>=20
>  They seem to have missed the paragraph you quoted.  It is immediately
> above the paragraph requiring State for Authorize Only.
>=20
>> This diagram neither indicates that the RADIUS Access-Request/Accept
>> sequence is authenticated, nor does it show any previous previous
>> authenticated RADIUS interaction.   It therefore appears to violate =
the
>> RFC 5080 requirement.
>=20
>  The document repeatedly refers to "authentication", where no
> authentication is taking place:
>=20
>   ... A 6rd configuration request may
>   also be sent in the same message. If the user authentication is
>   approved by the AAA server,
>=20
>  There is no "user", and no credentials supplied for authentication.
>=20
>  My reading is that State was added solely to satisfy portions of RFC
> 5080.  I think it, and all references to 5080 should be removed from =
the
> draft.
>=20
>  Since no user authentication is taking place, perhaps a better
> suggestion would be to allocate a new Service-Type, of
> IPv6-6rd-Configuration.  The Access-Request could contain:
>=20
> 	Service-Type =3D IPv6-6rd-Configuration
> 	IPv6-6rd-Configuration =3D ... data ...
>=20
>  RADIUS servers should be able to key off of the Service-Type to
> distinguish 6rd requests from all other RADIUS requests.  They can =
then
> respond correctly, even though no user credentials are in the request.
>=20
>  The draft should also replace the four references to "authentication"
> on page 4 with "authorization".
>=20
>  The format of the IPv6-6rf-Configuration attribute is not ideal.  =
This
> is OK, as the RADIUS extensions document has not been published.  The
> only suggestions I would have are:
>=20
> - make the IPv4MaskLen field 32 bits long.  RFC 6158 Section A.2.1 has
> this text forbidding 8-bit fields:
>=20
>      * Unsigned integers of size other than 32 bits.
>        SHOULD be replaced by an unsigned integer of 32 bits.  There is
>        insufficient justification to define a new size of integer.
>=20
> - make it clear that since the subtypes have values, they can appear =
in
> any order.  e.g. subtype 1,2,3 is OK, but so is subtype order 2,3,1 =
and
> 3,2,1.
>=20
> - if new subtypes are envisioned, then an IANA registry for subtypes
> should be allocated, subject to expert review, or IETF consensus
>=20
>  Alan DeKok.


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Dear all,

Please find below the agenda of the October 11th  IESG telechat.
Please send your questions, comments and concerns before October 11 COB.

Thanks and Regards, Benoit.

=============================================

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Summarized Agenda for the 2012-10-11 IESG Teleconference

This agenda was generated at 2012-10-04 14:56:09 PDT
Up-to-date web version of this agenda can be found at:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/agenda/
                                                                                 

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items

   o draft-ietf-storm-iscsi-cons-07
     iSCSI Protocol (Consolidated) (Proposed Standard)
     Note: David Black (david.black@emc.com) is the document shepherd.
     Token: Martin Stiemerling

   o draft-ietf-fecframe-ldpc-03
     Simple LDPC-Staircase Forward Error Correction (FEC) Scheme for
     FECFRAME (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Greg Shepherd (gjshep@gmail.com) is the document shepherd
     Token: Martin Stiemerling

   o draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-16
     The Optimized Link State Routing Protocol version 2 (Proposed
     Standard)
     Note: Stan Ratliff (sratliff@cisco.com) is the document shepherd.
     Token: Adrian Farrel

   o draft-ietf-6man-dad-proxy-05
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     Note: Bob Hinden (bob.hinden@gmail.com) is the Document Shepherd.
     Token: Brian Haberman

   o draft-ietf-v6ops-ivi-icmp-address-06
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     Practice)
     Note: Fred Baker (fred@cisco.com) is the document shepherd.
     Token: Ronald Bonica

   o draft-ietf-dnsext-rfc6195bis-04
     Domain Name System (DNS) IANA Considerations (Best Current Practice)
     Note: Olafur Gudmundsson (ogud@ogud.com) is the document shepherd.
     Token: Ralph Droms

   o draft-ietf-sipcore-proxy-feature-11
     Mechanism to indicate support of features and capabilities in the
     Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Paul Kyzivat (pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu) is the Document Shepherd
     Token: Robert Sparks

   o draft-ietf-abfab-gss-eap-naming-06
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     Token: Stephen Farrell

   o draft-ietf-6man-udpchecksums-04
     UDP Checksums for Tunneled Packets (Proposed Standard)
     Token: Brian Haberman

2.1.2 Returning Items

   NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items

   NONE

2.2.2 Returning Items

   NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items

   o draft-ietf-fecframe-pseudo-cdp-04
     Pseudo Content Delivery Protocol (CDP) for Protecting Multiple
     Source Flows in FEC Framework (Informational)
     Note: Greg Shepherd (gjshep@gmail.com) is the document shepherd
     Token: Martin Stiemerling

   o draft-ietf-6man-udpzero-06
     IPv6 UDP Checksum Considerations (Informational)
     Token: Brian Haberman

3.1.2 Returning Items

   o draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-09
     Content Splicing for RTP Sessions (Informational)
     Note: Magnus Westerlund (magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com) is the
     document shepherd.
     Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items

   NONE

3.2.2 Returning Items

   NONE

3.3 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.3.1 New Items

   o conflict-review-mme-trill-fcoe-01
     IETF conflict review for draft-mme-trill-fcoe (None)
     Token: Ralph Droms

3.3.2 Returning Items

   NONE

3.3.3 For Action

   o conflict-review-pornin-deterministic-dsa-00
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     Token: Sean Turner

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

   NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

   NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review

   o Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (bfd)

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

   o Operations and Management Area Working Group (opsawg)





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a.
Alan - <quote>The format of the IPv6-6rf-Configuration attribute is not ide=
al.  This
is OK, as the RADIUS extensions document has not been published...
- make it clear that since the subtypes have values, they can appear in
any order.  e.g. subtype 1,2,3 is OK, but so is subtype order 2,3,1 and
3,2,1.</quote>

I tend to suggest draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib-06 to adopt the dat=
a type of TLV newly defined in draft-ietf-radext-radius-extensions.


b.
draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib-06 - <quote> ... the Access-Request p=
acket contains a
   Service-Type attribute with the value Authorize Only (17), thus
   according to [RFC5080] the Access-Request packet MUST contain a State
   attribute. </quote>
Alan - <quote> There is no "user", and no credentials supplied for authenti=
cation.
  My reading is that State was added solely to satisfy portions of RFC
5080.  I think it, and all references to 5080 should be removed from the
draft.
Since no user authentication is taking place, perhaps a better
suggestion would be to allocate a new Service-Type, of
IPv6-6rd-Configuration.  The Access-Request could contain:
	Service-Type =3D IPv6-6rd-Configuration
	IPv6-6rd-Configuration =3D ... data ...
  RADIUS servers should be able to key off of the Service-Type to
distinguish 6rd requests from all other RADIUS requests.  They can then
respond correctly, even though no user credentials are in the request. </qu=
ote>

There is almost the same description in section 3 of RFC 6519. Quoted as fo=
llows: 'In the scenario depicted in Figure 2, the Access-Request packet
contains a Service-Type attribute with the value Authorize Only (17);
thus, according to [RFC5080], the Access-Request packet MUST contain
a State attribute.'  Is it an Errata here?

c. IPv6-6rd-Configuration sounds not in the category of Service-Type (6) pe=
r the following records @ http://www.iana.org/assignments/radius-types/radi=
us-types.xml.

1 Login =20
2 Framed =20
3 Callback Login =20
4 Callback Framed =20
5 Outbound =20
6 Administrative =20
7 NAS Prompt =20
8 Authenticate Only =20
9 Callback NAS Prompt =20
10 Call Check =20
11 Callback Administrative =20
12 Voice=20
13 Fax
14 Modem Relay
15 IAPP-Register
16 IAPP-AP-Check
17 Authorize Only [RFC3576]=20
18 Framed-Management

Do we really find the suitable registry for the attribute of 6rd Configurat=
ion?

d. How about replace the type name of this newly designed attribute to be '=
6rd-configuration'?


Best Regards,
Leaf


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Subject: Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib-06.txt

Bernard Aboba wrote:
> I have some questions about this document.
>=20
> RFC 5080 Section 2.1.1 lays out the requirements for use of a State
> attribute:
...
> This requirement exists to ensure that a State attribute ties back to an
> authenticated RADIUS session.=20

  The document references RFC 5080, and says:

   In the abovementioned scenario, the Access-Request packet contains a
   Service-Type attribute with the value Authorize Only (17), thus
   according to [RFC5080] the Access-Request packet MUST contain a State
   attribute.

  They seem to have missed the paragraph you quoted.  It is immediately
above the paragraph requiring State for Authorize Only.

> This diagram neither indicates that the RADIUS Access-Request/Accept
> sequence is authenticated, nor does it show any previous previous
> authenticated RADIUS interaction.   It therefore appears to violate the
> RFC 5080 requirement.

  The document repeatedly refers to "authentication", where no
authentication is taking place:

   ... A 6rd configuration request may
   also be sent in the same message. If the user authentication is
   approved by the AAA server,

  There is no "user", and no credentials supplied for authentication.

  My reading is that State was added solely to satisfy portions of RFC
5080.  I think it, and all references to 5080 should be removed from the
draft.

  Since no user authentication is taking place, perhaps a better
suggestion would be to allocate a new Service-Type, of
IPv6-6rd-Configuration.  The Access-Request could contain:

	Service-Type =3D IPv6-6rd-Configuration
	IPv6-6rd-Configuration =3D ... data ...

  RADIUS servers should be able to key off of the Service-Type to
distinguish 6rd requests from all other RADIUS requests.  They can then
respond correctly, even though no user credentials are in the request.

  The draft should also replace the four references to "authentication"
on page 4 with "authorization".

  The format of the IPv6-6rf-Configuration attribute is not ideal.  This
is OK, as the RADIUS extensions document has not been published.  The
only suggestions I would have are:

- make the IPv4MaskLen field 32 bits long.  RFC 6158 Section A.2.1 has
this text forbidding 8-bit fields:

      * Unsigned integers of size other than 32 bits.
        SHOULD be replaced by an unsigned integer of 32 bits.  There is
        insufficient justification to define a new size of integer.

- make it clear that since the subtypes have values, they can appear in
any order.  e.g. subtype 1,2,3 is OK, but so is subtype order 2,3,1 and
3,2,1.

- if new subtypes are envisioned, then an IANA registry for subtypes
should be allocated, subject to expert review, or IETF consensus

  Alan DeKok.
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Leaf yeh wrote:
> I tend to suggest draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib-06 to adopt the data type of TLV newly defined in draft-ietf-radext-radius-extensions.

  The extensions document isn't published, so this draft can't use the
TLV data type.  However, it can use the *format*, which is OK.

> There is almost the same description in section 3 of RFC 6519. Quoted as follows: 'In the scenario depicted in Figure 2, the Access-Request packet
> contains a Service-Type attribute with the value Authorize Only (17);
> thus, according to [RFC5080], the Access-Request packet MUST contain
> a State attribute.'  Is it an Errata here?

  I submitted one.  It's wrong.

> c. IPv6-6rd-Configuration sounds not in the category of Service-Type (6) per the following records @ http://www.iana.org/assignments/radius-types/radius-types.xml.
...
> Do we really find the suitable registry for the attribute of 6rd Configuration?

  I suggest using "Call Check".

  Alan DeKok.

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Dear all,

draft-ietf-abfab-gss-eap-naming-06, currently in IESG review, speaks of 
RADIUS.
Can an AAA expert have a look if there are any concerns with that document?

Regards, Benoit.


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Benoit Claise wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> draft-ietf-abfab-gss-eap-naming-06, currently in IESG review, speaks of
> RADIUS.
> Can an AAA expert have a look if there are any concerns with that document?

  It references RADIUS, but doesn't really use RADIUS.  I think it's OK.

  Alan DeKok.

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Dear all,

Please find below the agenda of the October25th  IESG telechat.

Please send your questions, comments and concerns before October 24th COB.

Regards, Benoit


-------- Original Message --------




2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items

   o draft-ietf-ccamp-rfc5787bis-06
     ASON Routing for OSPFv2 Protocols (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Deborah Brungard (dbrungard@att.com) is the Document Shepherd.
     Token: Adrian Farrel

   o draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib-14
     Traffic Engineering Database Management Information Base in support
     of MPLS-TE/GMPLS (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Lou Berger (lberger@labn.net) is the Document Shepherd.
     Token: Adrian Farrel

   o draft-ietf-appsawg-media-type-suffix-regs-06
     Additional Media Type Structured Syntax Suffixes (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Murray Kucherawy is the document shepherd.
     Token: Barry Leiba

   o draft-ietf-pkix-rfc5280-clarifications-10
     Updates to the Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure Certificate
     and Certificate Revocation List (CRL) Profile (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Steve Kent (kent@bbn.com) is the Document Shepherd
     Token: Sean Turner

   o draft-ietf-dhc-client-id-06
     Client Identifier Option in DHCP Server Replies (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Ted Lemon (Ted.Lemon@nominum.com) is the Document Shepherd.
     Token: Ralph Droms

   o draft-ietf-geopriv-local-civic-09
     Specifying Civic Address Extensions in PIDF-LO (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Alissa Cooper (acooper@cdt.org) is the document shepherd.
     Token: Robert Sparks

2.1.2 Returning Items

   NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items

   o draft-snell-http-prefer-15
     Prefer Header for HTTP (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Mark Nottingham is the document shepherd.
     Token: Barry Leiba

   o draft-gp-intarea-obsolete-ipv4-options-iana-02
     Formally Deprecating some IPv4 Options (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Scott Bradner (sob@harvard.edu) is the document shepherd.
     Token: Ronald Bonica

2.2.2 Returning Items

   NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items

   o draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-deployment-06
     Deployment Considerations for Dual-Stack Lite (Informational)
     Note: Yong Cui (cuiyong@tsinghua.edu.cn) is the Document Shepherd.
     Token: Ralph Droms

   o draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation-04
     Motivations for Carrier-side Stateless IPv4 over IPv6 Migration
     Solutions (Informational)
     Note: Yong Cui (cuiyong@tsinghua.edu.cn) is the Document Shepherd.
     Token: Ralph Droms

3.1.2 Returning Items

   NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items

   NONE

3.2.2 Returning Items

   NONE

3.3 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.3.1 New Items

   o conflict-review-secure-cookie-session-protocol-00
     IETF conflict review for draft-secure-cookie-session-protocol (None)
     Token: Barry Leiba

3.3.2 Returning Items

   NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

   NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

   NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review

   NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

   o Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (bfd)



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AAA doctors,

I won't be able to participate to the AAA lunch, traditionally planned 
on Thursday, as I have to be in the COMAN side discussion.
Sorry about that.

Regards, Benoit.

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Hi All,

we planned a Coman side discussion on November 8th, 2012 Thursday 11:30
- 13:00.

Topics will -02 draft in general, constrained device classes, class of
networks in focus, management of constrainedness and the requirements
section, etc.

PS: This is just an adhoc discussion. There will be no jabber, no
recording. I will provide some minutes.
PS2: The room request has been approved but the IETF secretary did not
assign a room yet.

Cheers,
Mehmet








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              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mehmet.ersue@nsn.com">&lt;mehmet.ersue@nsn.com&gt;</a></td>
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            <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">To: </th>
            <td><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:coman@ietf.org">&lt;coman@ietf.org&gt;</a></td>
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            <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">CC: </th>
            <td>ext Benoit Claise <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bclaise@cisco.com">&lt;bclaise@cisco.com&gt;</a></td>
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      <pre>Hi All,

we planned a Coman side discussion on November 8th, 2012 Thursday 11:30
- 13:00. 

Topics will -02 draft in general, constrained device classes, class of
networks in focus, management of constrainedness and the requirements
section, etc.

PS: This is just an adhoc discussion. There will be no jabber, no
recording. I will provide some minutes.
PS2: The room request has been approved but the IETF secretary did not
assign a room yet.

Cheers, 
Mehmet 




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