From stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie Fri Jan 3 04:44:09 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825361ADFA3 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 04:44:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.438 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.438 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.538] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vDd64jOJX8nz for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 04:44:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [134.226.56.6]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD3C1ADFA1 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 04:44:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7764ABE73; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 12:43:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ls44JVx9PMlG; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 12:43:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [134.226.36.180] (stephen-think.dsg.cs.tcd.ie [134.226.36.180]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4F249BE6F; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 12:43:58 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <52C6B08E.2020403@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 12:43:58 +0000 From: Stephen Farrell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Schaad , abfab@ietf.org References: <20131231194126.8942.30471.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <021201cf0661$54d1be60$fe753b20$@augustcellars.com> In-Reply-To: <021201cf0661$54d1be60$fe753b20$@augustcellars.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [abfab] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-abfab-arch-10.txt X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 12:44:09 -0000 Thanks Jim, I've requested IETF LC for this. Not sure if the mail will go out today or Monday. Cheers, S. PS: I-D nits spotted a couple of refs that have been updated. Its fine to fix those at the end of IETF LC, but we'll want a -11 for that at least probably. On 12/31/2013 07:48 PM, Jim Schaad wrote: > This version addresses the major issues in the review from the AD. > The nits are being held until the last call and directorate reviews > come in. > > Jim > > >> -----Original Message----- From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >> [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 >> 11:41 AM To: Sam Hartman; Hannes Tschofenig; Jim Schaad; Eliot >> Lear; Sam D. Hartman; Josh Howlett; Eliot Lear; Jim Schaad; Josh >> Howlett; Hannes Tschofenig Subject: New Version Notification for >> draft-ietf-abfab-arch-10.txt >> >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-abfab-arch-10.txt has been >> successfully submitted by Jim Schaad and posted to the IETF >> repository. >> >> Name: draft-ietf-abfab-arch Revision: 10 Title: Application >> Bridging for Federated Access Beyond Web (ABFAB) Architecture >> Document date: 2013-12-31 Group: abfab Pages: 43 URL: >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-abfab-arch-10.txt >> Status: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-abfab-arch/ Htmlized: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-abfab-arch-10 Diff: >> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-abfab-arch-10 >> >> Abstract: Over the last decade a substantial amount of work has >> occurred in the space of federated access management. Most of this >> effort has focused on two use cases: network access and web-based >> access. However, the solutions to these use cases that have been >> proposed and deployed tend to have few common building blocks in >> common. >> >> This memo describes an architecture that makes use of extensions >> to the commonly used security mechanisms for both federated and >> non- federated access management, including the Remote >> Authentication Dial In User Service (RADIUS) the Generic Security >> Service (GSS), the Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP) and the >> Security Assertion Markup Language (SAML). The architecture >> addresses the problem of federated access management to primarily >> non-web-based services, in a manner that will scale to large >> numbers of identity providers, relying parties, and federations. >> >> >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at >> tools.ietf.org. >> >> The IETF Secretariat > > _______________________________________________ abfab mailing list > abfab@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/abfab > > From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Fri Jan 3 07:13:56 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFAAC1ADFE0; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 07:13:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0P-z-6Pgkn0p; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 07:13:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FC71ADFDF; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 07:13:54 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.90.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Sender: Message-ID: <20140103151354.27085.77346.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 07:13:54 -0800 Cc: abfab@ietf.org Subject: [abfab] Last Call: (Application Bridging for Federated Access Beyond Web (ABFAB) Architecture) to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:13:56 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Application Bridging for Federated Access Beyond web WG (abfab) to consider the following document: - 'Application Bridging for Federated Access Beyond Web (ABFAB) Architecture' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2014-01-17. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract Over the last decade a substantial amount of work has occurred in the space of federated access management. Most of this effort has focused on two use cases: network access and web-based access. However, the solutions to these use cases that have been proposed and deployed tend to have few common building blocks in common. This memo describes an architecture that makes use of extensions to the commonly used security mechanisms for both federated and non- federated access management, including the Remote Authentication Dial In User Service (RADIUS) the Generic Security Service (GSS), the Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP) and the Security Assertion Markup Language (SAML). The architecture addresses the problem of federated access management to primarily non-web-based services, in a manner that will scale to large numbers of identity providers, relying parties, and federations. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-abfab-arch/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-abfab-arch/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From Josh.Howlett@ja.net Mon Jan 6 08:01:40 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108A81AE064 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 08:01:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5vk64--r8QoX for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 08:01:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from egw002.ukerna.ac.uk (egw002.ukerna.ac.uk [194.81.3.65]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC2A1AE063 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 08:01:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from egw002.ukerna.ac.uk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Email Security Appliance) with SMTP id 8665620C7133_2CAD358B; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 16:01:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from EXC001.atlas.ukerna.ac.uk (exc001.atlas.ukerna.ac.uk [193.62.83.37]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "staffmail.ja.net", Issuer "TERENA SSL CA" (verified OK)) by egw002.ukerna.ac.uk (Sophos Email Appliance) with ESMTPS id 6424A20C711E_2CAD358F; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 16:01:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from EXC001.atlas.ukerna.ac.uk ([193.62.83.37]) by EXC001 ([193.62.83.37]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 16:01:27 +0000 From: Josh Howlett To: "Klaas Wierenga (kwiereng)" , Sam Hartman Thread-Topic: [abfab] abfab session at IETF London? Thread-Index: AQHO+9NCJoNKfytD4k+Bq3s+c7/qNJpZ/k7lgAGLmQCAHG+HgA== Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 16:01:27 +0000 Message-ID: References: <7FB9C312-6E81-4B3B-AFFB-C3DB12396C80@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.9.131030 x-originating-ip: [194.82.140.76] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "abfab@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [abfab] abfab session at IETF London? X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 16:01:40 -0000 >> >>I'd like to discuss two things: >>=20 >> 1) Try to come to closure on aaa-saml. It's possible we'll do that >> before but it's possible we will not I am pretty confident of that happening, but it might be prudent to allow some time for discussion. Josh. Janet(UK) is a trading name of Jisc Collections and Janet Limited, a=20 not-for-profit company which is registered in England under No. 2881024=20 and whose Registered Office is at Lumen House, Library Avenue, Harwell Oxford, Didcot, Oxfordshire. OX11 0SG. 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[62.102.145.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bl6sm43022776lbb.5.2014.01.06.08.02.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 06 Jan 2014 08:02:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52CAD382.2080002@mnt.se> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 17:02:10 +0100 From: Leif Johansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: abfab@ietf.org References: <7FB9C312-6E81-4B3B-AFFB-C3DB12396C80@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [abfab] abfab session at IETF London? X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 16:02:24 -0000 On 2014-01-06 17:01, Josh Howlett wrote: >>> I'd like to discuss two things: >>> >>> 1) Try to come to closure on aaa-saml. It's possible we'll do that >>> before but it's possible we will not > I am pretty confident of that happening, but it might be prudent to allow > some time for discussion. > I requested 1hr... From georgehanes@hushmail.com Thu Jan 30 14:02:58 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4DB81A04DA for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:02:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.323 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.323 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.535, SPF_HELO_NEUTRAL=0.112, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l5bCkXgHPaXD for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.hushmail.com (smtp2a.hushmail.com [65.39.178.237]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515791A0489 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.hushmail.com (smtp2a.hushmail.com [65.39.178.237]) by smtp2.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 10E5EA026B for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 22:02:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hushmail.com (w8.hushmail.com [65.39.178.52]) by smtp2.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 22:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id DC3EC6018A; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 22:02:53 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 17:02:53 -0500 To: abfab@ietf.org From: georgehanes@hushmail.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20140130220253.DC3EC6018A@smtp.hushmail.com> Subject: [abfab] Be cautious of this computer science conference X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 22:13:08 -0000 Be cautious of this computer science conference If you have any thought of attending the world’s biggest f-a-k-e conference in computer science http://www.world-academy-of-science.org you should visit any websites below https://sites.google.com/site/worlddump1 or https://sites.google.com/site/dumpconf https://sites.google.com/site/moneycomp1 https://sites.google.com/site/worlddump4 The organizer of this conference is H-amid A-rabnia http://www.cs.uga.edu/~hra a professor from University of Georgia, Athens, US. 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