From nobody Mon Nov 2 22:05:09 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79471B2A29 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 22:05:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.261 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.261 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fWbfKvhx0XDR for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 22:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from e-mailfilter01.sunet.se (e-mailfilter01.sunet.se [IPv6:2001:6b0:8:2::201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 207C01B2A1E for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 22:05:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1.sunet.se (smtp1.sunet.se [192.36.171.214]) by e-mailfilter01.sunet.se (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4) with ESMTP id tA3652gI021918 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 07:05:02 +0100 Received: from kerio.sunet.se (kerio.sunet.se [192.36.171.210]) by smtp1.sunet.se (8.14.9/8.14.7) with ESMTP id tA364xYa021274 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 07:05:01 +0100 (CET) VBR-Info: md=sunet.se; mc=all; mv=swamid.se DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=sunet.se; s=default; t=1446530701; bh=6EHo2WuBMIfZkHcnG3ats0yVKtce7+ChLwYoDTFg6Wc=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=C/II21kestW9GBISkFCdHpjPu2Tq1DlXm5fkITgvhpxGtBd+AyjU4k1oMEJiimC+W 9feP4lpkCaoQQqeN/QptKYOU0oW5uRmP+tbGmw4YQe+6i4eeHNeTmhay8wuV9gWJC1 GZmg35U9IlqxNxFhoHUnnlitMqIUKlq5Kq/Mdkgw= X-Footer: c3VuZXQuc2U= Received: from [133.93.44.38] ([133.93.44.38]) (authenticated user leifj@sunet.se) by kerio.sunet.se (Kerio Connect 8.5.2) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128 bits)) for abfab@ietf.org; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 07:04:55 +0100 To: "abfab@ietf.org" From: Leif Johansson Message-ID: <56384E83.3050200@sunet.se> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 07:04:51 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: outbound, outbound-sunet-se:default, sunet-se:default, base:default, @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=192.36.171.210; country=SE; latitude=59.3294; longitude=18.0686; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=59.3294,18.0686&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: outbound-sunet-se:outbound (inherits from outbound-sunet-se:default, sunet-se:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 09PAS52lh - 94b80f9efc2d - 20151103 X-CanIt-Archive-Cluster: PfMRe/vJWMiXwM2YIH5BVExnUnw Received-SPF: neutral (e-mailfilter01.sunet.se: 192.36.171.210 is neither permitted nor denied by domain leifj@sunet.se) receiver=e-mailfilter01.sunet.se; client-ip=192.36.171.210; envelope-from=; helo=smtp1.sunet.se; identity=mailfrom X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.36.171.201 Archived-At: Subject: [abfab] getting finished X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 06:05:08 -0000 By all accounts Klaas will push the IESG-button on aaa-saml later today. That leaves us only the use-case draft. Can we have a final update on that within the next 2 weeks and then do a WGLC please? Cheers Leif From nobody Mon Nov 2 23:09:55 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D931B2F01 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 23:09:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NWYSIgXgxCBf for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 23:09:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.painless-security.com (mail.painless-security.com [23.30.188.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA67E1B2F1B for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 23:09:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.painless-security.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F4620883 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 02:07:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.painless-security.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.suchdamage.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a-R-1t7UOFVY for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 02:07:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [133.93.30.24] (dhcp-30-24.meeting.ietf94.jp [133.93.30.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: mark@mail.suchdamage.org) by mail.painless-security.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 02:07:34 -0500 (EST) To: abfab@ietf.org References: <56384E83.3050200@sunet.se> From: Mark Donnelly Message-ID: <56385DB5.5030804@painless-security.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 16:09:41 +0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56384E83.3050200@sunet.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [abfab] getting finished X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 07:09:55 -0000 On 11/3/2015 3:04 PM, Leif Johansson wrote: > > By all accounts Klaas will push the IESG-button on aaa-saml later today. > That leaves us only the use-case draft. The UI draft is still open, too. A new version of it was published in October. Cheers, --Mark From nobody Mon Nov 2 23:19:25 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5751A0016 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 23:19:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.661 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.661 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fqJ9UD9_jr5F for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 23:19:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from e-mailfilter01.sunet.se (e-mailfilter01.sunet.se [IPv6:2001:6b0:8:2::201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 228E01A0004 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 23:19:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1.sunet.se (smtp1.sunet.se [192.36.171.214]) by e-mailfilter01.sunet.se (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4) with ESMTP id tA37JK5H023890 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 08:19:20 +0100 Received: from kerio.sunet.se (kerio.sunet.se [192.36.171.210]) by smtp1.sunet.se (8.14.9/8.14.7) with ESMTP id tA37JHdI000920 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 08:19:20 +0100 (CET) VBR-Info: md=sunet.se; mc=all; mv=swamid.se DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=sunet.se; s=default; t=1446535160; bh=FzvSa+kN866bsFkywxckltciVQyOulWZCtlurrPP2s0=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=z7VzYZgCfcubLKNDGcy0T5DN7Oc5Pnt2ra6GBuQqO+ZeysGbBlATfd9LS16Z19uTJ dFNo7zmuIiELdhsYGNN4wf/47GBsF7lSN+kHNhJCgY/HSFwpo9LJgy68cXO/8WBJO4 TCgXaGobN4M4ACzMBTkp+oXz449pB2MG93klSutU= X-Footer: c3VuZXQuc2U= Received: from [133.93.30.168] ([133.93.30.168]) (authenticated user leifj@sunet.se) by kerio.sunet.se (Kerio Connect 8.5.2) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128 bits)) for abfab@ietf.org; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 08:19:15 +0100 To: abfab@ietf.org References: <56384E83.3050200@sunet.se> <56385DB5.5030804@painless-security.com> From: Leif Johansson Message-ID: <56385FEF.2020404@sunet.se> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 08:19:11 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56385DB5.5030804@painless-security.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: outbound, outbound-sunet-se:default, sunet-se:default, base:default, @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=192.36.171.210; country=SE; latitude=59.3294; longitude=18.0686; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=59.3294,18.0686&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: outbound-sunet-se:outbound (inherits from outbound-sunet-se:default, sunet-se:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 09PATjkNf - b91ed364036e - 20151103 X-CanIt-Archive-Cluster: PfMRe/vJWMiXwM2YIH5BVExnUnw Received-SPF: neutral (e-mailfilter01.sunet.se: 192.36.171.210 is neither permitted nor denied by domain leifj@sunet.se) receiver=e-mailfilter01.sunet.se; client-ip=192.36.171.210; envelope-from=; helo=smtp1.sunet.se; identity=mailfrom X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.36.171.201 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [abfab] getting finished X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 07:19:25 -0000 On 2015-11-03 08:09, Mark Donnelly wrote: > On 11/3/2015 3:04 PM, Leif Johansson wrote: >> >> By all accounts Klaas will push the IESG-button on aaa-saml later today. >> That leaves us only the use-case draft. > > The UI draft is still open, too. A new version of it was published in > October. > sorry - I meant UI, use-case is done. The october version got some review and my understanding is that it needed updating as a result of those comments? From nobody Tue Nov 3 06:14:57 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B1F1A0387 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 06:14:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lz9MvPKdhqkg for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 06:14:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.painless-security.com (mail.painless-security.com [23.30.188.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C517A1A037F for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 06:14:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.painless-security.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9226120885; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 09:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.painless-security.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.suchdamage.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id afvjHmppkSQX; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 09:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (c-50-136-30-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [50.136.30.120]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "laptop", Issuer "laptop" (not verified)) by mail.painless-security.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 09:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (Postfix, from userid 8042) id 765FC848C7; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 09:14:50 -0500 (EST) From: Sam Hartman To: Leif Johansson References: <56384E83.3050200@sunet.se> <56385DB5.5030804@painless-security.com> <56385FEF.2020404@sunet.se> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 09:14:50 -0500 In-Reply-To: <56385FEF.2020404@sunet.se> (Leif Johansson's message of "Tue, 3 Nov 2015 08:19:11 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Archived-At: Cc: abfab@ietf.org Subject: Re: [abfab] getting finished X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 14:14:55 -0000 Based on the churn in the UI draft's last revision, I suspect that we 're talking two more rounds before wglc rather than one more round. That assumes that Mark and the reviewers continue to have the energy. I know that I am excited looking at what's happening with this draft and I hope Jim, Ken and others who provided comments share my joy at the idea of turning this into something really cool. I'm fairly sure from talking to Mark that he's excited here as well. So, I kno that Adam, Stefan, and myself have indicated interest in other work. (Credential delegation and ephemeral key management spring to mind) I'd like to try and figure out whether we're just logistically disorganized there in getting that running or whether we actually lack the energy to do it. --Sam From nobody Tue Nov 3 18:03:06 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15511A8978 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 18:03:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q_m1tHq8Cwk2 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 18:03:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pa0-x230.google.com (mail-pa0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8C5D1A8956 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 18:03:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by pacdm15 with SMTP id dm15so11746093pac.3 for ; Tue, 03 Nov 2015 18:03:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mnt_se.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9IAhApaQHcexWva6X2GSMP6Uq3gDbMj72tOn5BzR1wI=; b=L0lhlwzpxfDXjhx4YcnUQx57ypbDs6ZuIDWuFd3gvfU1sFUwrCylm6on5BV612jYj3 n7yUCp0K0tmU392gY+tI5vLR7IJXNIC+/m5qXsz4mohIo8C/2DQF7dYDuiSLIXmbg42i ag588y0QtPQYE5c+wLmEzdlUNwVn//aqqYDkLa+KRvb5crgLRF5XmeBXV+0hWwFUOSca 9eUt/FiT4jNPjTSIwMZ5NTDt1PAFtwjfygOcwEADYoWO3PcGB4C0zgcR2bM5RTxAqNab 37K3gnIg69LHsjuSCcPHcLs0Kw2q32vUhR5f3nGhS5ggMEhECu9YSLkavmj0/e6yjB49 biwQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9IAhApaQHcexWva6X2GSMP6Uq3gDbMj72tOn5BzR1wI=; b=BgLAGhGf4d+TLJO/mNfwzqRCV8EAL5dXR04ysOxAcyH9Wg+gg9y/v/qz3S6ETpmmos fWwYzyi24yNS0ajDATVPx8EMBoFWAqrXaqcAhhmEKgG/jlZkNjIaQbDlqpxj6A/nwUu9 IZDLQfnx4+HHDoI3he/hZ0QFcC2iXuSkHLFhbGQ3YBvP9agNZV+q0feZJy15iw/rjCL4 wEBAI2HDipgzVzdMOiO9iuZBqMv5/GYbYXjTo/TWPOkjw3C0o6B3xGIvHeU2xoxu01O7 E5Zr4SYf1sQ7ahDtvYhtSoyDUviBZOOTsyilFhYufJ15T1c2jFuG3yHdx9k8szOaD18F awvg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkpoyOoM+lBkxqnAQSJSv8cWvdX4WStBHb6oMTVHNax/zHJesTIyfaJY9XV/Ob9s+KUY8eP X-Received: by 10.68.139.65 with SMTP id qw1mr32858406pbb.34.1446602582517; Tue, 03 Nov 2015 18:03:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:c40:0:3040:76da:38ff:fe3a:15dd? 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[2001:c40:0:3040:76da:38ff:fe3a:15dd]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id hi4sm5890585pbc.7.2015.11.03.18.03.00 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 03 Nov 2015 18:03:01 -0800 (PST) To: abfab@ietf.org References: <56384E83.3050200@sunet.se> <56385DB5.5030804@painless-security.com> <56385FEF.2020404@sunet.se> From: Leif Johansson Message-ID: <56396751.1030301@mnt.se> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 03:02:57 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [abfab] getting finished X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2015 02:03:05 -0000 On 2015-11-03 15:14, Sam Hartman wrote: > > Based on the churn in the UI draft's last revision, I suspect that we > 're talking two more rounds before wglc rather than one more round. > That assumes that Mark and the reviewers continue to have the energy. > I know that I am excited looking at what's happening with this draft and > I hope Jim, Ken and others who provided comments share my joy at the > idea of turning this into something really cool. I'm fairly sure from > talking to Mark that he's excited here as well. > > So, I kno that Adam, Stefan, and myself have indicated interest in other > work. > (Credential delegation and ephemeral key management spring to mind) > I'd like to try and figure out whether we're just logistically > disorganized there in getting that running or whether we actually lack > the energy to do it. We need to demonstrate energy by a revision very soon or I suspect our AD will run out of energy. 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Cheers Leif From nobody Tue Nov 3 18:12:09 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD5E1A8997 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 18:12:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.311 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.311 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dkb4UkEHmWoS for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 18:12:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [134.226.56.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 092801A8960 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 18:12:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3874ABE2F; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 02:12:04 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at scss.tcd.ie Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mwg0Qo8RqGIT; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 02:12:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [133.93.24.87] (unknown [133.93.24.87]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CEE79BDF9; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 02:12:01 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.tcd.ie; s=mail; t=1446603123; bh=B2KHaOWPQRxnhtFmWOL5kjclkjbQTs/S+pf1ewlvXCs=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=AIs4+vaLCc/0nVCjhY3Olx2YSSXXKcMv+PvWuXz3/UJRkBumgzhhHvjiSYq+3/83o xjU9/yDxg3IXXmkvLRexrj6gz3vyN6gBz+7C/e2A1jK4qDgfOfLw2SU+3QAv0toUS/ ciw0qbiZ/kgy5TGMkMiCnTpJsvdNW17PsW8I8CNs= To: Leif Johansson , abfab@ietf.org References: <56384E83.3050200@sunet.se> <56385DB5.5030804@painless-security.com> <56385FEF.2020404@sunet.se> <56396751.1030301@mnt.se> From: Stephen Farrell Openpgp: id=D66EA7906F0B897FB2E97D582F3C8736805F8DA2; url= Message-ID: <5639696C.9040400@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 02:11:56 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56396751.1030301@mnt.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [abfab] getting finished X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2015 02:12:07 -0000 On 04/11/15 02:02, Leif Johansson wrote: > We need to demonstrate energy by a revision very soon or I suspect our > AD will run out of energy. s/run out of energy/hit the close-wg button/ :-) S. 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[2001:c40:0:3040:76da:38ff:fe3a:15dd]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id hl2sm31880323pbb.58.2015.11.03.18.13.57 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 03 Nov 2015 18:13:58 -0800 (PST) To: abfab@ietf.org References: <56384E83.3050200@sunet.se> <56385DB5.5030804@painless-security.com> <56385FEF.2020404@sunet.se> From: Leif Johansson Message-ID: <563969E4.5070705@mnt.se> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 03:13:56 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [abfab] getting finished X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2015 02:14:01 -0000 > So, I kno that Adam, Stefan, and myself have indicated interest in other > work. > (Credential delegation and ephemeral key management spring to mind) > I'd like to try and figure out whether we're just logistically > disorganized there in getting that running or whether we actually lack > the energy to do it. Come up with a draft and lets test if there is enough energy? From nobody Tue Nov 3 19:12:56 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476641A8AAE for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 19:12:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CeGHUrc39z-n for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 19:12:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com [173.37.86.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D90A1A8BAF for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 19:12:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=702; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1446606773; x=1447816373; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=9fnPTQPRTh04cT8kZtRaByIysTXWPKoGRZfZ8LDt0og=; b=PA8hqGPMeMJvGXS402aHafnU8YYhfQKzUiKWLOtlz224ub8Gqdb1Av4B GQJ9ELqokf+VB3qQfRGkZZYKnihSFUR/8ALWWnKEuqpuvQAxQpLn3GWLA rQJuMCS3SWgb/wAkdLx+T650QWdx1AIYy7v9gwzjRAW0Gh8+hVxwpjnrp k=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0D5AQChdjlW/5pdJa1egztTb71HAQ2BXRcKhXICgT84FAEBAQEBAQGBCoQ1AQEBAwEBAQE3NAsFCwIBCBgdARAnCyUCBA4FiCYIDcFVAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBFASGVYIQgm6EWYNLgRQFlkYBjSGBWoQ/jVOIUgEfAQFChARyhTQBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.20,241,1444694400"; d="scan'208";a="47407339" Received: from rcdn-core-3.cisco.com ([173.37.93.154]) by rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 04 Nov 2015 03:12:52 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-005.cisco.com (xch-aln-005.cisco.com [173.36.7.15]) by rcdn-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id tA43Cqc2027256 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 4 Nov 2015 03:12:52 GMT Received: from xch-aln-004.cisco.com (173.36.7.14) by XCH-ALN-005.cisco.com (173.36.7.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 21:12:51 -0600 Received: from xch-aln-004.cisco.com ([173.36.7.14]) by XCH-ALN-004.cisco.com ([173.36.7.14]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.000; Tue, 3 Nov 2015 21:12:52 -0600 From: "Klaas Wierenga (kwiereng)" To: Leif Johansson Thread-Topic: [abfab] getting finished Thread-Index: AQHRFf2mFAc4+g+i0Umx8kmGQ6rAEZ6LMWca Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 03:12:52 +0000 Message-ID: References: <56384E83.3050200@sunet.se> In-Reply-To: <56384E83.3050200@sunet.se> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "abfab@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [abfab] getting finished X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2015 03:12:56 -0000 Just for those that are eagerly awaiting the write-up, I have finished the = write-up but am waiting for an explicit "no undeclared IPR lying around" st= atement from the authors before I send it on. Klaas Sent from my iPhone > On 03 Nov 2015, at 15:05, Leif Johansson wrote: >=20 >=20 > By all accounts Klaas will push the IESG-button on aaa-saml later today. > That leaves us only the use-case draft. >=20 > Can we have a final update on that within the next 2 weeks and > then do a WGLC please? >=20 > Cheers Leif >=20 > _______________________________________________ > abfab mailing list > abfab@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/abfab From nobody Wed Nov 4 18:19:08 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4161B38E0 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 18:19:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FEtcaP86wxWA for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 18:19:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from alln-iport-3.cisco.com (alln-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.142.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 939AC1B38DD for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 18:19:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2507; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1446689941; x=1447899541; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: mime-version; bh=JPiCshkCEb+BpuWtOTOQR5pNoN0LNXmUALkP2NkcSrs=; b=ITFc021vzoggBrK/aZe2HT4hNfOcbstNtFM3ZYVD5pz3/vMOvwvTyQ4E H9I9kGtgq9MFq1+MshApsNGM906j53EHFIdG+KdbBHWEpkeHhtLzXY/gt Ykq5gcGZVf1o60qrVBlbfTX1a3A5ECveYbHaotB/5POzEo4vxqUXLsq8z o=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0AaAgAdvDpW/4wNJK1egztTb716AQ2BX?= =?us-ascii?q?iGFcQKBQTgUAQEBAQEBAX8LhDUBAQEEgQkCAQwBDAMBAh4KBzIUBwIIAgQTiC4?= =?us-ascii?q?NwXoBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEUBIZUghCCboR7DQmDE4EUBZZIAYUci?= =?us-ascii?q?AaBWoQ/licBHwEBQoQEcoU0AQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.20,245,1444694400"; d="scan'208,217";a="204633143" Received: from alln-core-7.cisco.com ([173.36.13.140]) by alln-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 05 Nov 2015 02:19:00 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-004.cisco.com (xch-rcd-004.cisco.com [173.37.102.14]) by alln-core-7.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id tA52J0oZ017265 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 02:19:00 GMT Received: from xch-aln-004.cisco.com (173.36.7.14) by XCH-RCD-004.cisco.com (173.37.102.14) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 20:19:00 -0600 Received: from xch-aln-004.cisco.com ([173.36.7.14]) by XCH-ALN-004.cisco.com ([173.36.7.14]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.000; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 20:19:00 -0600 From: "Klaas Wierenga (kwiereng)" To: "abfab@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-12 Thread-Index: AQHRF3Az+5VVFBS+HUa+R3TBPSwIRp6MscnH Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 02:19:00 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20151105021801.7396.40722.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20151105021801.7396.40722.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_BF1D1AA674584F0ABF3CD889CF5BE33Eciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [abfab] Fwd: Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-12 X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2015 02:19:06 -0000 --_000_BF1D1AA674584F0ABF3CD889CF5BE33Eciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI Begin forwarded message: From: Klaas Wierenga > Date: 5 November 2015 at 11:18:01 GMT+9 To: > Cc: Klaas Wierenga >, >, >, > Subject: Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-12 Klaas Wierenga has requested publication of draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-12 as= Informational on behalf of the ABFAB working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draf= t-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml/ --_000_BF1D1AA674584F0ABF3CD889CF5BE33Eciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Date: 5 November 2015 at 11:18:01 GMT+9
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Subject: Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-= saml-12

Klaas Wierenga has requested publication of draft-ietf-abfab-aaa= -saml-12 as Informational on behalf of the ABFAB working group.

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--_000_BF1D1AA674584F0ABF3CD889CF5BE33Eciscocom_-- From nobody Fri Nov 20 09:49:16 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8DC1B3A65 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:49:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.886 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.886 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MSTVvLLzK1mD for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:49:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [134.226.56.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 792DA1B3A64 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:49:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84CEBE7D for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 17:49:11 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at scss.tcd.ie Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2LLO-kAVWhkC for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 17:49:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [10.87.48.95] (unknown [86.46.27.72]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E0419BE49 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 17:49:09 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.tcd.ie; s=mail; t=1448041750; bh=EUauMKGLJW3Nhh1wng/uhdSheMFEzzZGV/JZcDE2830=; h=To:From:Subject:Date:From; b=TGIeFQFu1bKB+asU6yPNr7HZjKGTlqUilRwQ4aMnRLdqf8ot0cIgIBzwzjkxQmBnz OWdCBw7IGUs8Z8yAhePw7jvA7psbNRXweVIo8wrluOsNi61iG6lgNugDEWlwsa/63Z KhZhZmKFsCu/GorIFr58HVf2rOSnhClstH/M8ZmA= To: "" From: Stephen Farrell Openpgp: id=D66EA7906F0B897FB2E97D582F3C8736805F8DA2; url= Message-ID: <564F5D15.3020602@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 17:49:09 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [abfab] AD review of draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-12 X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 17:49:15 -0000 Hiya, I did my review and have very little to say, which I'm sure you'll agree is good:-) A couple of nits is all and those are below. I've asked for IETF LC to be started. And sorry for taking a while to get to this. Cheers, S. - abstract: last sentence is a bit hard to process - I think "permit application" isn't very clear, maybe re-word? - ID nits says: " -- Obsolete informational reference (is this intentional?): RFC 3588 (Obsoleted by RFC 6733)" From nobody Fri Nov 20 10:01:53 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F6E1B3AE8 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:01:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.215 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.215 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i9icTZRm5H2v for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:01:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.painless-security.com (mail.painless-security.com [23.30.188.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 429341B3AE7 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:01:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.painless-security.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECBE208B1 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 12:58:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.painless-security.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.suchdamage.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sBECjI1wlOvm for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 12:58:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.113.143.111] (c-73-182-250-48.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [73.182.250.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: mark@mail.suchdamage.org) by mail.painless-security.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 12:58:50 -0500 (EST) To: abfab@ietf.org References: <56384E83.3050200@sunet.se> <56385DB5.5030804@painless-security.com> <56385FEF.2020404@sunet.se> From: Mark Donnelly Message-ID: <564F6008.7070507@painless-security.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:01:44 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56385FEF.2020404@sunet.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [abfab] getting finished X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 18:01:52 -0000 On 11/3/2015 2:19 AM, Leif Johansson wrote: > sorry - I meant UI, use-case is done. The october version got some > review and my understanding is that it needed updating as a result > of those comments? That was the July version, and most of those comments were incorporated into the October version. The October version hasn't received any review that I've seen. I'd be very happy to have reviewers. Cheers, --Mark From nobody Fri Nov 20 10:09:54 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietf.org Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6151C1B3B34; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:09:52 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.10.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Sender: Message-ID: <20151120180952.7671.55955.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:09:52 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: abfab@ietf.org, abfab-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml@ietf.org Subject: [abfab] Last Call: (A RADIUS Attribute, Binding, Profiles, Name Identifier Format, and Confirmation Methods for SAML) to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 18:09:52 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Application Bridging for Federated Access Beyond web WG (abfab) to consider the following document: - 'A RADIUS Attribute, Binding, Profiles, Name Identifier Format, and Confirmation Methods for SAML' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2015-12-04. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document describes the use of the Security Assertion Mark-up Language (SAML) with RADIUS in the context of the ABFAB architecture. It defines two RADIUS attributes, a SAML binding, a SAML name identifier format, two SAML profiles, and two SAML confirmation methods. The RADIUS attributes permit encapsulation of SAML assertions and protocol messages within RADIUS, allowing SAML entities to communicate using the binding. The two profiles describe the application of this binding for ABFAB authentication and assertion query/request, enabling a Relying Party to request authentication of, or assertions for, users or machines (Clients). These Clients may be named using a NAI name identifier format. Finally, the subject confirmation methods allow requests and queries to be issued for a previously authenticated user or machine without needing to explicitly identify them as the subject. These artifacts have been defined to permit application in AAA scenarios other than ABFAB, such as network access. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. The reference to RFC3588 should be to 6733. That'll be fixed later. From nobody Fri Nov 20 10:14:35 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF401B3B8A for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:14:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.085 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.085 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EMgVFk89YkDL for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.painless-security.com (mail.painless-security.com [23.30.188.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2353F1B3B89 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.painless-security.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12ED5208AA for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:11:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.painless-security.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.suchdamage.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3bE99pS_l3AQ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:11:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (c-50-136-30-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [50.136.30.120]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "laptop", Issuer "laptop" (not verified)) by mail.painless-security.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:11:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (Postfix, from userid 8042) id A552F82535; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:14:31 -0500 (EST) From: Sam Hartman To: Mark Donnelly References: <56384E83.3050200@sunet.se> <56385DB5.5030804@painless-security.com> <56385FEF.2020404@sunet.se> <564F6008.7070507@painless-security.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:14:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: <564F6008.7070507@painless-security.com> (Mark Donnelly's message of "Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:01:44 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Archived-At: Cc: abfab@ietf.org Subject: Re: [abfab] getting finished X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 18:14:34 -0000 Mark, do we want to try and put together a conference call with Rhys and others interested for discussing error handling, say for early January? 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[62.102.145.131]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f8sm541950lbv.6.2015.11.21.04.31.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 21 Nov 2015 04:31:06 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Leif Johansson X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13B143) In-Reply-To: <564F5D15.3020602@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 13:31:04 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5E4E80BC-7C24-4C24-AEF3-0070DD9DD428@mnt.se> References: <564F5D15.3020602@cs.tcd.ie> To: Stephen Farrell Archived-At: Cc: "" Subject: Re: [abfab] AD review of draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-12 X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 12:31:11 -0000 Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPhone > 20 nov. 2015 kl. 18:49 skrev Stephen Farrell : >=20 >=20 > Hiya, >=20 > I did my review and have very little to say, which I'm > sure you'll agree is good:-) A couple of nits is all > and those are below. >=20 > I've asked for IETF LC to be started. And sorry for > taking a while to get to this. There was plenty of tardiness on our part too. No need to apologize. >=20 > Cheers, > S. >=20 > - abstract: last sentence is a bit hard to process - I think > "permit application" isn't very clear, maybe re-word? >=20 > - ID nits says: " -- Obsolete informational reference (is this > intentional?): RFC 3588 (Obsoleted by RFC 6733)" >=20 Can the author(s) deal with that in the publication process? > _______________________________________________ > abfab mailing list > abfab@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/abfab From nobody Sat Nov 21 16:44:14 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F6B1B2F60 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2015 16:44:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.086 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.086 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JEOX1YMOFUu4 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2015 16:44:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from alln-iport-7.cisco.com (alln-iport-7.cisco.com [173.37.142.94]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6EB61B2F5F for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2015 16:44:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1330; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1448153050; x=1449362650; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=N+TbciOUnbvPyBI6s9A5NJ9bmGJHCiJ17p5hGEh8Fhk=; b=ZgDfdTDIkhzgoqhq5hOGYJj8zqIVna8EYysX7tRPufAGWZa7vARQVq5T oGyhuFBAP3CY1MrC+kAzHeo2g0zTpQHP7Dceq7b1RL6OkXDzfJRGNGRef h4ANK5N0wuHC3WmjN1S6/gRIfNJWWP+nxvf7fLvmZR5cy83zieHIITPCf M=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0ABAgC+DlFW/4MNJK1egztTb78RAQ2BZ?= =?us-ascii?q?RcKhW4CgS04FAEBAQEBAQGBCoQ0AQEBAwEBAQFrCwULAgEIGC4nCyUCBA4FiCY?= =?us-ascii?q?IDb5zAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBFASGVIIQgm6EWYNLgRUFjVeIeQGNM?= =?us-ascii?q?JxKAR8BAUKCER2BVnKFKwEBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.20,330,1444694400"; d="scan'208";a="210846851" Received: from alln-core-1.cisco.com ([173.36.13.131]) by alln-iport-7.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 22 Nov 2015 00:44:10 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-005.cisco.com (xch-rcd-005.cisco.com [173.37.102.15]) by alln-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id tAM0iACL003253 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 22 Nov 2015 00:44:10 GMT Received: from xch-aln-004.cisco.com (173.36.7.14) by XCH-RCD-005.cisco.com (173.37.102.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Sat, 21 Nov 2015 18:44:09 -0600 Received: from xch-aln-004.cisco.com ([173.36.7.14]) by XCH-ALN-004.cisco.com ([173.36.7.14]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.000; Sat, 21 Nov 2015 18:44:09 -0600 From: "Klaas Wierenga (kwiereng)" To: Leif Johansson Thread-Topic: [abfab] AD review of draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-12 Thread-Index: AQHRI7vJTlYewZXmlkeYU+u99dyo3p6mzhcAgABoPv8= Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 00:44:09 +0000 Message-ID: <5D92EF46-4316-4B06-94D8-0C1D91B312BB@cisco.com> References: <564F5D15.3020602@cs.tcd.ie>, <5E4E80BC-7C24-4C24-AEF3-0070DD9DD428@mnt.se> In-Reply-To: <5E4E80BC-7C24-4C24-AEF3-0070DD9DD428@mnt.se> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "" Subject: Re: [abfab] AD review of draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-12 X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 00:44:12 -0000 Sent from my iPhone > On 21 Nov 2015, at 08:31, Leif Johansson wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > Skickat fr=E5n min iPhone >=20 >> 20 nov. 2015 kl. 18:49 skrev Stephen Farrell = : >>=20 >>=20 >> Hiya, >>=20 >> I did my review and have very little to say, which I'm >> sure you'll agree is good:-) A couple of nits is all >> and those are below. >>=20 >> I've asked for IETF LC to be started. And sorry for >> taking a while to get to this. >=20 > There was plenty of tardiness on our part too. No need to apologize. >=20 >>=20 >> Cheers, >> S. >>=20 >> - abstract: last sentence is a bit hard to process - I think >> "permit application" isn't very clear, maybe re-word? >>=20 >> - ID nits says: " -- Obsolete informational reference (is this >> intentional?): RFC 3588 (Obsoleted by RFC 6733)" >=20 > Can the author(s) deal with that in the publication process? Fwiw, I checked with Alejandro when I did the write up and it should indeed= be 6733=20 Klaas >=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> abfab mailing list >> abfab@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/abfab >=20 > _______________________________________________ > abfab mailing list > abfab@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/abfab From nobody Sun Nov 22 11:20:57 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4079A1B33A6 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 11:20:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DtieBGm2WtmJ for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 11:20:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lb0-x236.google.com (mail-lb0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A7D31B33A5 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 11:20:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by lbblt2 with SMTP id lt2so85945079lbb.3 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 11:20:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mnt-se.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=M7VA8WkpdVHIXLDkHXxKEDgBwFG9Ce9NE25d/M56PcY=; b=Xns0LA9hm0ZGM5e3GQm16zqrJtoePxNWNU7fspKH/Juv67Fr1hQxfbnchrtITPpIgI nCOnf8Non9m2xfWEfz3XsBvt2NZge/X2VBoEe020TBungazE6xNFW4vmdjW3uPIzkT00 bjCcU+k8rxfnJm62ynLJ4qw+VYZMF+U/s+XOBqKcmp47NQfvRFjcOb1JepapxloZEEYT urKaEPpcHCerShRsWTwubZMP5TNpI23x9QgeBmioFgeD34wJ+5QnSTRXVMqTowM+RNRk 0yJ6pupXt+Rtdhai8x+gB1Mj2igpMiPxB9ZMJljPLM5PUNlC817fMVb6h4g7wPDiMMIJ vThA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=M7VA8WkpdVHIXLDkHXxKEDgBwFG9Ce9NE25d/M56PcY=; b=I16MkZRvJUfqSlFbp4oVlY2Mqyjh6hOAZ0WF8Lgi1p9kx30vMP/v+3Y3xdGLYUA5sd AdKsYnI33XMm2D8fGDFAo6f3FsA258QrS6x8VUT6SJZlLiCLY+1PJALDJd13fBIO+CvJ Uu/EaNpHCYDjz8P9zCUuuzciFQHKxqOOEtaxYv/L2zJKOhW9odscMMphOsUK5Sh15neR LGSxdyaveVvl5Fmo4dTkZDB/tSDgMaFqFVjr6QLzGT5MYfN2bocjaTuprlqJKH56Qo4Z YOtGTpvmj7HKDiGlupUT0hpkjzyeGYxFwqpqFsoz0K2S9sN6KhHpFgn0+JfJ0DUzN34i Qjdw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmxNqUzdtzFo1Q2Uf4lI8urdyv80N4Loe9gNU/X7PLsXo04n23rjDDuDCSg8TcdWJIBRri1 X-Received: by 10.112.39.5 with SMTP id l5mr9385231lbk.101.1448220051337; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 11:20:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.0.120] (tb62-102-145-131.cust.teknikbyran.com. 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from xenon24.um.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (xenon24.um.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id H-nfQRHyh33G for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 20:43:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (79.109.150.87.dyn.user.ono.com [79.109.150.87]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: alex) by xenon24.um.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 53165B8F4 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 20:43:44 +0100 (CET) To: abfab@ietf.org References: <564F5D15.3020602@cs.tcd.ie> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Alejandro_P=c3=a9rez_M=c3=a9ndez?= Message-ID: <56536C6F.3090505@um.es> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 20:43:43 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <564F5D15.3020602@cs.tcd.ie> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020600020509010309060506" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [abfab] AD review of draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-12 X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:43:51 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020600020509010309060506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Stephen, thanks for the review. > Hiya, > > I did my review and have very little to say, which I'm > sure you'll agree is good:-) A couple of nits is all > and those are below. > > I've asked for IETF LC to be started. And sorry for > taking a while to get to this. > > Cheers, > S. > > - abstract: last sentence is a bit hard to process - I think > "permit application" isn't very clear, maybe re-word? Does "The use of the artifacts defined in this document is not exclusive to ABFAB. They can be applied in any AAA scenario, such as the network access control." sound better? > > - ID nits says: " -- Obsolete informational reference (is this > intentional?): RFC 3588 (Obsoleted by RFC 6733)" Right. As Klaas said, that was a non-intentional mistake, that I have fixed now. Regards, Alejandro > > _______________________________________________ > abfab mailing list > abfab@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/abfab --------------020600020509010309060506 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Stephen,

thanks for the review.

Hiya,

I did my review and have very little to say, which I'm
sure you'll agree is good:-) A couple of nits is all
and those are below.

I've asked for IETF LC to be started. And sorry for
taking a while to get to this.

Cheers,
S.

- abstract: last sentence is a bit hard to process - I think
"permit application" isn't very clear, maybe re-word?

Does
"The use of the artifacts defined in this document
is not exclusive to ABFAB. They can be applied in any AAA scenario,
such as the network access control."

sound better?



- ID nits says: " -- Obsolete informational reference (is this
intentional?): RFC 3588 (Obsoleted by RFC 6733)"

Right. As Klaas said, that was a non-intentional mistake, that I have fixed now.

Regards,
Alejandro


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--------------020600020509010309060506-- From nobody Mon Nov 23 11:45:18 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2221B3303 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:45:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.486 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.486 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id btGgnnU7AEVh for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:45:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from xenon24.um.es (xenon24.um.es [155.54.212.164]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423241B3304 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:45:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xenon24.um.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F91DB929 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 20:45:13 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by antispam in UMU at xenon24.um.es Received: from xenon24.um.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (xenon24.um.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id MzBI3Z1N43XZ for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 20:45:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (79.109.150.87.dyn.user.ono.com [79.109.150.87]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: alex) by xenon24.um.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 599E4B747 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 20:45:12 +0100 (CET) To: abfab@ietf.org References: <564F5D15.3020602@cs.tcd.ie> <5E4E80BC-7C24-4C24-AEF3-0070DD9DD428@mnt.se> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Alejandro_P=c3=a9rez_M=c3=a9ndez?= Message-ID: <56536CC8.7040308@um.es> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 20:45:12 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5E4E80BC-7C24-4C24-AEF3-0070DD9DD428@mnt.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [abfab] AD review of draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-12 X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:45:15 -0000 >> Cheers, >> S. >> >> - abstract: last sentence is a bit hard to process - I think >> "permit application" isn't very clear, maybe re-word? >> >> - ID nits says: " -- Obsolete informational reference (is this >> intentional?): RFC 3588 (Obsoleted by RFC 6733)" >> > Can the author(s) deal with that in the publication process? I can publish a -13 version with those fixes if that's required. But as the LC has been issued with -12 version, I'm not sure what to do. Regards, Alejandro > >> _______________________________________________ >> abfab mailing list >> abfab@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/abfab > _______________________________________________ > abfab mailing list > abfab@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/abfab From nobody Mon Nov 23 11:50:52 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: abfab@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB151B331A for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:50:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.886 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.886 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h4iWVNZhxlRl for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [134.226.56.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD6D71B3318 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:50:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13CA0BE3F for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:50:47 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at scss.tcd.ie Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pWasjB_b9PMk for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:50:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [10.87.48.91] (unknown [86.46.27.82]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 038B4BE39 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:50:44 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.tcd.ie; s=mail; t=1448308245; bh=DPBGvgdWS6ssvUeKKisBEGdddD/ibkHGhEHMWQP89Xw=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=NtdsiFkVCXIL53cb8DhBYoeSan74/aEi7aNytJEJvajCdK20eY+Smt5TgSvSjwIrJ QcOGL0ZG1RyYaM8ohhNiAGomW2/m0UE2Ae/d6afi3qFsfbyA67CQ3ioBmugTSnNrx7 njKwF/ttHlNAphiaFUull3xJ0HZkl4/3Z8rxbmCE= To: abfab@ietf.org References: <564F5D15.3020602@cs.tcd.ie> <5E4E80BC-7C24-4C24-AEF3-0070DD9DD428@mnt.se> <56536CC8.7040308@um.es> From: Stephen Farrell Openpgp: id=D66EA7906F0B897FB2E97D582F3C8736805F8DA2; url= Message-ID: <56536E14.1030409@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:50:44 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56536CC8.7040308@um.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [abfab] AD review of draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-12 X-BeenThere: abfab@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Application Bridging, Federated Authentication Beyond \(the web\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:50:51 -0000 On 23/11/15 19:45, Alejandro Pérez Méndez wrote: > >>> Cheers, >>> S. >>> >>> - abstract: last sentence is a bit hard to process - I think >>> "permit application" isn't very clear, maybe re-word? >>> >>> - ID nits says: " -- Obsolete informational reference (is this >>> intentional?): RFC 3588 (Obsoleted by RFC 6733)" >>> >> Can the author(s) deal with that in the publication process? > > I can publish a -13 version with those fixes if that's required. But as > the LC has been issued with -12 version, I'm not sure what to do. Changes are minor so either would be fine, but let's say put out a rev Dec 4th when the last call is done with these and any other changes needed. S. > > Regards, > Alejandro > >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> abfab mailing list >>> abfab@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/abfab >> _______________________________________________ >> abfab mailing list >> abfab@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/abfab > > _______________________________________________ > abfab mailing list > abfab@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/abfab >