From zach@sensinode.com Thu Dec 29 11:24:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: architecture-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: architecture-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB30E21F8B68 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 11:24:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ezHHhyNblgsI for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 11:24:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from auth-smtp.nebula.fi (auth-smtp.nebula.fi [217.30.180.105]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B020621F8AFB for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 11:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (188-67-53-217.bb.dnainternet.fi [188.67.53.217]) (authenticated bits=0) by auth-smtp.nebula.fi (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id pBTJOEGE023975 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:24:15 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Zach Shelby In-Reply-To: <4EF83EA0.1020700@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:24:12 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <04124957-CD5D-408B-A1E0-10FBB86C54FE@sensinode.com> References: <4EF83EA0.1020700@gmx.net> To: Hannes Tschofenig X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 09:36:56 -0800 Cc: architecture-discuss@ietf.org, jari.arkko@piuha.net, charles.perkins@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [arch-d] Re Follow-on questions from the "Internet of Things" discussion on Monday X-BeenThere: architecture-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: open discussion forum for long/wide-range architectural issues List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 19:24:28 -0000 On Dec 26, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > > - Comments on 3GPP's M2M work? Does anyone on the panel > > foresee any application for it in the Internet of Things? >=20 > I guess you mean the ETSI M2M work. Charlie actually means 3GPP, as they are making minor improvements to 3G = to better support M2M terminals in future releases. Yes, that work is of = course useful for GPRS/UMTS based M2M terminals - which are really = common already now on the Internet.=20 ETSI M2M is an application layer service architecture with bindings to = both HTTP and CoAP. That will also play some kind of role in IoT, = although I am pretty sure it will be limited more to MNO/MVNO offerings, = so I don't expect it to become very common outside of the Cellular M2M = market.=20 Zach =20 --=20 Zach Shelby, Chief Nerd, Sensinode Ltd. http://www.sensinode.com http://zachshelby.org - My blog "On the Internet of Things" http://6lowpan.net - My book "6LoWPAN: The Wireless Embedded Internet" Mobile: +358 40 7796297