From acooper@cdt.org Fri Oct 26 08:32:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: architecture-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: architecture-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25F121F8651 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:32:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.446 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.446 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.153, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l8HO-VizSZq9 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.maclaboratory.net (mail.maclaboratory.net [209.190.215.232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8739221F8641 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:32:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Footer: Y2R0Lm9yZw== Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.maclaboratory.net (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)) for architecture-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:32:30 -0400 From: Alissa Cooper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:32:29 -0400 Message-Id: To: architecture-discuss@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [arch-d] draft-iab-filtering-considerations X-BeenThere: architecture-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: open discussion forum for long/wide-range architectural issues List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:32:35 -0000 The IAB is working on a document about "Technical Considerations for = Internet Service Filtering," = . = Feedback and discussion are welcome on this list.= From paf@frobbit.se Fri Oct 26 10:58:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: architecture-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: architecture-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D19821F8644 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:58:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qoHO9klLKtdc for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv01.frobbit.se (srv01.frobbit.se [IPv6:2a02:80:3ffe::39]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1D421F8641 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srv01.frobbit.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991211756834F; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:58:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at frobbit.se Received: from srv01.frobbit.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srv01.frobbit.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DDYg2gX8rjqV; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:58:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 190.meeting.registro.br (190.meeting.registro.br [200.160.10.190]) (Authenticated sender: paf01) by srv01.frobbit.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B89C17568346; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:58:43 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:58:38 -0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Alissa Cooper X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: architecture-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [arch-d] draft-iab-filtering-considerations X-BeenThere: architecture-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: open discussion forum for long/wide-range architectural issues List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:58:47 -0000 On 26 okt 2012, at 13:32, Alissa Cooper wrote: > The IAB is working on a document about "Technical Considerations for = Internet Service Filtering," = . = Feedback and discussion are welcome on this list. Thanks for the pointer to this document that I have missed earlier. First, what is the intended goal with this document? I do not really see = any recommendations in it. Is the idea to come with recommendations on = how to do blocking given there is consensus on what to block? Secondly, I think you should try to remove lots and lots of words. It is = very long at the moment and I think / feel it would be more crisp if you = manage later on to not be repetitive, and be more "to the point". Thirdly, even if this is a technical document, I think it is valuable to = explain why it is a *technical* paper. =46rom my point of view it is = because IAB has not intention on walking down the path of describing the = other half of "good blocking" which is "how to decide what to block". I = would like you at least say this, so the reader do understand this = "other piece" is also needed. Lastly, please have a look at the just released SSAC document SAC056 = (and the earlier SAC050) that you can find on = . I think you find some = ideas there that can help you when you do future versions of this = document. Regards, Patrik