From linda.dunbar@huawei.com Wed Jan 4 10:29:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: armd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: armd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A59521F877E for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:29:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.546 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.546 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.052, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OSVbNc56x8vZ for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:29:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfwrgout.huawei.com (dfwrgout.huawei.com [206.16.17.72]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E56421F877A for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:29:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.9.243 (EHLO dfweml202-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.9.243]) by dfwrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.2.3-GA FastPath) with ESMTP id ACI45386; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:29:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from DFWEML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.151) by dfweml202-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.9.108) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:27:27 -0800 Received: from DFWEML505-MBX.china.huawei.com ([10.124.31.100]) by dfweml403-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.193.5.151]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:27:17 -0800 From: Linda Dunbar To: "armd@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: draft on BCP for ARP/ND Scaling for Large Data Centers Thread-Index: AQHMyw5jXYSPvkkPXkS5E8+zC4qNmQ== Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:27:16 +0000 Message-ID: <4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F62A4E57A8@dfweml505-mbx> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.192.11.97] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Subject: [armd] draft on BCP for ARP/ND Scaling for Large Data Centers X-BeenThere: armd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of issues associated with large amount of virtual machines being introduced in data centers and virtual hosts introduced by Cloud Computing." 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:31:02 -0000 --Apple-Mail-37--494091760 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The minutes from our last meeting have been updated. There were some = spelling errors that were fixed, extended characters that were replaced, = and a few minor typos that were repaired. Nothing material was changed. = Please see http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/minutes/armd.txt for the = latest version. The minutes will become final tomorrow. So please review and provide = feedback today, or hold your peace. Cheers, -Benson --Apple-Mail-37--494091760 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii The minutes from our last meeting have been updated. There were some spelling errors that were fixed, extended characters that were replaced, and a few minor typos that were repaired. Nothing material was changed. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:13:58 -0000 Ron,=20 There is new draft on ARP/ND scaling BCP to be discussed at the meeting.=20 We definitely want to close the armd-problem-statement draft. In addition, = we need to decide if draft-karir-ARMD-statistics-00 needs to be dropped or= published as an informational draft.=20 Granted that the statistics draft is not perfect, but it is the only one st= atistics on ARP/ND which concluded that the real problem of ARP/ND is at L2= /L3 boundary router instead of bandwidth consumed or end stations processin= g too many broadcast messages. So it has some value. =20 Linda=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: armd-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:armd-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Ronald Bonica > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:02 PM > To: armd@ietf.org > Subject: [armd] FW: armd - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 83 >=20 > Do we have a idea what the agenda will look like? >=20 > Ron >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool > > [mailto:session_request_developers@ietf.org] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:53 PM > > To: session-request@ietf.org > > Cc: dromasca@avaya.com; Ronald Bonica; bschlies@cisco.com; > > ldunbar@huawei.com > > Subject: armd - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 83 > > > > A new meeting session request has just been submitted > > by Benson Schliesser, a working group chair of armd. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Working Group Name: armd > > Area Name: Operations and Management Area > > Session Requester: Benson Schliesser > > > > Number of Sessions: 1 > > Length of Session(s): 1 hour > > > > > > Number of Attendees: 125 > > Conflicts to Avoid: > > First Priority: intarea l2vpn opsarea opsawg trill rtgarea rtgwg > > iesg iab idr l3vpn > > Second Priority: storm mpls mif lisp grow netconf netmod opsec pce > > sidr > > Third Priority: behave tsvarea sidr idr v6ops eman 6renum cdni > forces > > pcp > > BOF or IRTF Session: rrg cloud dcops sdnp sdn > > > > Special Requests: > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > armd mailing list > armd@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/armd From bschlies@cisco.com Tue Jan 24 10:29:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: armd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: armd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D940711E809D for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:29:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eVoNCzxrT2rx for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:29:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CDB11E80B4 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:29:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=bschlies@cisco.com; l=1189; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1327429752; x=1328639352; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date: content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=XukIXaZmQL6dt76VURTsyNwMj4/80yhfZWSSx4fizdo=; b=NUyTYfpdoHz/QATlxyNEXyfPxN0mdW9Hi0bZPxV0naEPul1rloM8IFY4 FbSa41fPSHuKyVYoqUHIBPfSHWoEJkWqGmEhnjftPL7p0sAAnpdDK2e4I BnIBP770On/70FRGbrlDZclii16Wax/faO+cyl/ad1vkEFY7+/SIt16JR w=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAA34Hk+rRDoH/2dsb2JhbABCrjGBBYFyAQEBAwESASc0EAsLDjhOCQYBGxmHWgiZagGeJIkBAwIBBwMGAwYGAgEKAiIFgkkPCA8XUwEBCAMBARAGglJjBIg/jF6Sbw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,563,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="26746543" Received: from mtv-core-2.cisco.com ([171.68.58.7]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 24 Jan 2012 18:29:12 +0000 Received: from dhcp-171-71-147-130.cisco.com (dhcp-171-71-147-130.cisco.com [171.71.147.130]) by mtv-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q0OITBn5027548; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:29:11 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Benson Schliesser In-Reply-To: <13205C286662DE4387D9AF3AC30EF456D76429542D@EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:29:10 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0BD05835-DCFF-4D92-A7A8-ADB947D8DFF9@cisco.com> References: <13205C286662DE4387D9AF3AC30EF456D76429542D@EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net> To: Ronald Bonica , armd@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: Re: [armd] FW: armd - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 83 X-BeenThere: armd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of issues associated with large amount of virtual machines being introduced in data centers and virtual hosts introduced by Cloud Computing." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:29:13 -0000 On Jan 24, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Ronald Bonica wrote: > Do we have a idea what the agenda will look like? Ron, I was just composing an email to the WG, but your note is a good = segue. If any contributors wish to request a slot in the agenda for ARMD at = IETF-83, please make your request within the next 30 days. You may email = the chairs directly and/or post to this mailing list. Please note that = all speakers will be expected to have published an updated draft, = relevant to our charter and milestones, in order to be allocated agenda = time. As a reminder, we plan to progress several drafts between now and the = Paris meeting. Specifically, we intend to last-call the Problem = Statement and the Statistics drafts. The authors of these documents are = currently working on revisions, merging material, etc. This work plan = was described in = http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/armd/current/msg00375.html. Further, our next milestones are due in March 2012. These include one or = more Recommendation drafts as well as a Gap Analysis draft. Please = submit drafts on these topics ASAP if you wish to present on them in = Paris. Cheers, -Benson From linda.dunbar@huawei.com Tue Jan 24 10:33:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: armd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: armd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2534111E80B9 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:33:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.212, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UP0kKnSXuuKX for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:33:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfwrgout.huawei.com (dfwrgout.huawei.com [206.16.17.72]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EA311E80B8 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:33:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.9.243 (EHLO dfweml202-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.9.243]) by dfwrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.2.3-GA FastPath) with ESMTP id ACP58893; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 13:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from DFWEML404-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.203) by dfweml202-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.9.108) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:32:22 -0800 Received: from DFWEML505-MBX.china.huawei.com ([10.124.31.100]) by dfweml404-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.193.5.203]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:32:18 -0800 From: Linda Dunbar To: Ronald Bonica , "armd@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [armd] FW: armd - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 83 Thread-Index: AczawQD8pew3ILm3QACvOh6fsnS0/QAATvdgAAAVPjAAAH+aoA== Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:32:17 +0000 Message-ID: <4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F632E16E8D@dfweml505-mbx> References: <13205C286662DE4387D9AF3AC30EF456D76429542D@EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.192.11.97] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Subject: Re: [armd] FW: armd - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 83 X-BeenThere: armd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of issues associated with large amount of virtual machines being introduced in data centers and virtual hosts introduced by Cloud Computing." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:33:38 -0000 Ron,=20 I forgot to mention that Aaron Hughes who is hosting 54th NANOG BCP session= wants to include the ARP/ND scaling BCP in 54th NANOG BCP discussion. We w= ould also like to bring the feedback from NANOG community to IETF.=20 Linda=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Dunbar > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:12 PM > To: 'Ronald Bonica'; armd@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [armd] FW: armd - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 83 >=20 > Ron, >=20 > There is new draft on ARP/ND scaling BCP to be discussed at the meeting. > We definitely want to close the armd-problem-statement draft. In > addition, we need to decide if draft-karir-ARMD-statistics-00 needs to > be dropped or published as an informational draft. >=20 > Granted that the statistics draft is not perfect, but it is the only > one statistics on ARP/ND which concluded that the real problem of > ARP/ND is at L2/L3 boundary router instead of bandwidth consumed or end > stations processing too many broadcast messages. So it has some value. >=20 > Linda >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: armd-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:armd-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of > > Ronald Bonica > > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:02 PM > > To: armd@ietf.org > > Subject: [armd] FW: armd - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 83 > > > > Do we have a idea what the agenda will look like? > > > > Ron > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool > > > [mailto:session_request_developers@ietf.org] > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:53 PM > > > To: session-request@ietf.org > > > Cc: dromasca@avaya.com; Ronald Bonica; bschlies@cisco.com; > > > ldunbar@huawei.com > > > Subject: armd - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 83 > > > > > > A new meeting session request has just been submitted > > > by Benson Schliesser, a working group chair of armd. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > Working Group Name: armd > > > Area Name: Operations and Management Area > > > Session Requester: Benson Schliesser > > > > > > Number of Sessions: 1 > > > Length of Session(s): 1 hour > > > > > > > > > Number of Attendees: 125 > > > Conflicts to Avoid: > > > First Priority: intarea l2vpn opsarea opsawg trill rtgarea rtgwg > > > iesg iab idr l3vpn > > > Second Priority: storm mpls mif lisp grow netconf netmod opsec > pce > > > sidr > > > Third Priority: behave tsvarea sidr idr v6ops eman 6renum cdni > > forces > > > pcp > > > BOF or IRTF Session: rrg cloud dcops sdnp sdn > > > > > > Special Requests: > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > armd mailing list > > armd@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/armd From bschlies@cisco.com Tue Jan 24 10:47:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: armd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: armd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD6C11E8080 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:47:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OXl9dpNniSzY for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD47111E8075 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:47:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=bschlies@cisco.com; l=1376; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1327430847; x=1328640447; h=from:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version; bh=aNaSjbnJDPJrMbrqurfiRJUPImX27JfK2OPSJNxh0Ng=; b=TQ054Rzh6StVJ3Nkwd/u43me8NnVrzifzD6XtcVm2NXwiz9aQvoZTySu VIdwAf4PbkRUOop8cohEbqSrDGofsUsUzSY+s/uIbDQ9LWF5mvgj4PsLy MXTG0z6u5EDtliJeYouFJ3g9ngfzXbJ2e5AGvPGjxxXXtzardzcgmgMRD w=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgoKAKX7Hk+rRDoG/2dsb2JhbABCpj6HdYEFgWkFHQEFfwGBOxmFJoIrEZg/gScBniGJBAIBCgwJAgEKAiICA4JJDwgPF1MBAQgDAQEOIYI5YwSIP4xekm8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,563,1320624000"; d="scan'208,217";a="26749877" Received: from mtv-core-1.cisco.com ([171.68.58.6]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 24 Jan 2012 18:47:27 +0000 Received: from dhcp-171-71-147-130.cisco.com (dhcp-171-71-147-130.cisco.com [171.71.147.130]) by mtv-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q0OIlRPT032623 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:47:27 GMT From: Benson Schliesser Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-23--916187064 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:47:27 -0800 Message-Id: <95CF6439-999A-4318-9854-23C5EDEF4F1E@cisco.com> To: armd@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [armd] Milestones Update X-BeenThere: armd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of issues associated with large amount of virtual machines being introduced in data centers and virtual hosts introduced by Cloud Computing." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:47:28 -0000 --Apple-Mail-23--916187064 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ARMD participants - As proposed in the "Work Plan" message posted at = http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/armd/current/msg00375.html the = chairs intend to drop two milestones from our Charter. Specifically, the = "Survey of Existing Implementations" and "Survey of Security" milestones = will be dropped in 2 weeks unless somebody volunteers to submit a = contribution before IETF-83. Cheers, -Benson --Apple-Mail-23--916187064 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii ARMD participants -

As proposed in the "Work Plan" message posted at http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/armd/current/msg00375.html the chairs intend to drop two milestones from our Charter. Specifically, the "Survey of Existing Implementations" and "Survey of Security" milestones will be dropped in 2 weeks unless somebody volunteers to submit a contribution before IETF-83.

Cheers,
-Benson

--Apple-Mail-23--916187064-- From kreeger@cisco.com Mon Jan 30 11:40:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: armd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: armd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF9B21F871A; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:40:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_32=0.6, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VXP9az9QSgc1; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:40:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtv-iport-1.cisco.com (mtv-iport-1.cisco.com [173.36.130.12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A05E21F8671; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:40:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=kreeger@cisco.com; l=3030; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1327952437; x=1329162037; h=date:subject:from:to:message-id:mime-version; bh=Eq+m/9Uw8hxigPzQcWOdpoWDgzEojDzGCKvO2jWXW2M=; b=Ni/XgITfdh4J/FbfK9nubiLxWtMEFhK3qNOvN2IXh/63CebYaNWlGzji z63QkGcgrsd7O/4rEywuUTXPpiz/j9R+2XAnQb7xgBs3XKpZ5OFB+FaPO WZCuTtLz9QLsOyiKWLCnumzCxr/3THJwbYIN0JmIAs1shSd4eZeZ74lOH A=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhkFAHPxJk+rRDoH/2dsb2JhbABDgk2jdwGHJmuBBYF0AQQBAQEPASoxHQEMAWgxAQQTCRIHh2OYcIEnAZ44iDYvBA8BCAEFCQYDCQEFCINUNS0BAwQICgESgxwEiD+MW5Jy X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,592,1320624000"; d="scan'208,217";a="26150290" Received: from mtv-core-2.cisco.com ([171.68.58.7]) by mtv-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 30 Jan 2012 19:40:36 +0000 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by mtv-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q0UJeaN2002189; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:40:36 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-21e.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.156]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:40:36 -0800 Received: from 10.21.146.181 ([10.21.146.181]) by xmb-sjc-21e.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.156]) via Exchange Front-End Server email.cisco.com ([128.107.191.79]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:40:36 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:40:36 -0800 From: Larry Kreeger To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Network Virtualization Overlay Control Plane Requirements posted Thread-Index: AczfhwmCNjK0MgCDPkWJDbI3krxH/A== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3410768436_38387553" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2012 19:40:36.0566 (UTC) FILETIME=[09D86F60:01CCDF87] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:51:43 -0800 Subject: [armd] Network Virtualization Overlay Control Plane Requirements posted X-BeenThere: armd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of issues associated with large amount of virtual machines being introduced in data centers and virtual hosts introduced by Cloud Computing." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:40:37 -0000 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3410768436_38387553 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit To: nvo3 mailing list Bcc: l2vpn, l3vpn, dc, armd, vpn4dc mailing lists Hi everyone, I have recently posted a first draft of the Control Plane requirements for Network Virtualization Overlays. http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-kreeger-nvo3-overlay-cp-00.txt This draft is a follow-up to draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-01 ( http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-01 ) which makes the case for overlay networks in data centers (not restricted to L2 over L3) and the need for control plane solutions. If you have not read draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-01, I highly suggest reading it first because the posted control plane reqs document picks up where it left off. Since the posted draft is a followup to draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-01 , and there is already an NVO3 mailing list, please join and post any discussion and/or comments to nvo3@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nvo3 Thank you, Larry Kreeger --B_3410768436_38387553 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Network Virtualization Overlay Control Plane Requirements posted</TI= TLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D"Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt= '>To: nvo3 mailing list<BR> Bcc: l2vpn, l3vpn, dc, armd, vpn4dc mailing lists<BR> <BR> Hi everyone,<BR> <BR> I have recently posted a first draft of the Control Plane requirements for = Network Virtualization Overlays.  <BR> <BR> <a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-kreeger-nvo3-overlay-cp-00.txt">http:= //www.ietf.org/id/draft-kreeger-nvo3-overlay-cp-00.txt</a><BR> <BR> This draft is a follow-up to draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-01= ( <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-sta= tement-01">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-stat= ement-01</a> ) which makes the case for overlay networks in data centers (no= t restricted to L2 over L3) and the need for control plane solutions.<BR> <BR> If you have not read draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-01, I high= ly suggest reading it first because the posted control plane reqs document p= icks up where it left off.<BR> <BR> Since the posted draft is a followup to draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-s= tatement-01 , and there is already an NVO3 mailing list, please join and pos= t any discussion and/or comments to <a href=3D"nvo3@ietf.org">nvo3@ietf.org</a= ><BR> <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nvo3">https://www.ietf.org/m= ailman/listinfo/nvo3</a><BR> <BR> Thank you,<BR> Larry Kreeger</SPAN></FONT> </BODY> </HTML> --B_3410768436_38387553--