From nobody Mon Oct 5 01:16:54 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asdf@ietf.org Delivered-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF653A0E2D; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 01:16:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: =?utf-8?q?=C3=89ric_Vyncke_via_Datatracker?= To: "The IESG" Cc: asdf-chairs@ietf.org, asdf@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.19.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: =?utf-8?q?=C3=89ric_Vyncke?= Message-ID: <160188581276.21683.15447401704086809302@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2020 01:16:52 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Asdf] =?utf-8?q?=C3=89ric_Vyncke=27s_No_Objection_on_charter-ie?= =?utf-8?q?tf-asdf-00-02=3A_=28with_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: asdf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "A Semantic Description Format \(SDF\) for Things and their Interactions and Data" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2020 08:16:53 -0000 Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-asdf-00-02: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-asdf/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking forward to seeing this WG in action ! Some comments though: "the Semantic Definition Format (SDF) was created" should a reference to SDF be added ? Then, later, it seems that SDF specification is the key work item for ASDF WG. "Some 200 models in SDF format have been contributed " a reference to the repository would be welcome. Should "in 2020" be added to provide more context ? "they look to the IETF for developing SDF 1.0 further into a high-quality specification" is positive for the IETF but this claim has no reference. Expanding "WISHI" would help the non-expert reader (like myself). From nobody Mon Oct 5 01:25:38 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E775D3A0E14; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 01:25:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.887 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.887 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NU3wMWwMTd1z; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 01:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1441A3A0E45; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 01:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dcc60.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.204.96]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4C4YZG5bqHzyqk; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 10:25:26 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <160188581276.21683.15447401704086809302@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 10:25:26 +0200 Cc: The IESG , asdf@ietf.org, asdf-chairs@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 623579126.1478291-1a943c2be685280bb4c4d6babf67246e Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <667F776C-E22F-4F36-A50F-D143178F7F6C@tzi.org> References: <160188581276.21683.15447401704086809302@ietfa.amsl.com> To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=89ric_Vyncke?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Asdf] =?utf-8?q?=C3=89ric_Vyncke=27s_No_Objection_on_charter-ie?= =?utf-8?q?tf-asdf-00-02=3A_=28with_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: asdf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "A Semantic Description Format \(SDF\) for Things and their Interactions and Data" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2020 08:25:32 -0000 Hi =C3=89ric, > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Looking forward to seeing this WG in action ! Thank you! > Some comments though: >=20 > "the Semantic Definition Format (SDF) was created" should a reference = to SDF be > added ? Then, later, it seems that SDF specification is the key work = item for > ASDF WG. The reference would be to draft-onedm-t2trg-sdf, which was a bit too = ephemeral to include here, but we certainly could (we could also = reference the github repo where that was developed, = https://github.com/one-data-model/SDF ). > "Some 200 models in SDF format have been contributed " a reference to = the > repository would be welcome. Should "in 2020" be added to provide more = context ? Sounds good to me (even if 2020 isn=E2=80=99t quite over yet). > "they look to the IETF for developing SDF 1.0 further into a = high-quality > specification" is positive for the IETF but this claim has no = reference. There are several liaison statements of organization contributing to the = OneDM process (see IETF108 slides), but OneDM itself is not really an = organization that is making statements. Maybe we can find something to = reference if needed. > Expanding "WISHI" would help the non-expert reader (like myself). Good point. Work on IoT Semantic/Hypermedia Interoperability http://wishi.space (We need to update that page and make it https=E2=80=A6) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Mon Oct 5 01:47:58 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2953A0E58; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 01:47:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.591 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.591 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com header.b=Ws5qgVm7; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.onmicrosoft.com header.b=s6r8e2rz 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Sounds like a nice project for a winter evening at the fireside=E2=80=A6 Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Tue Oct 6 09:42:36 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB5A3A0BDF; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 09:42:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.639 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.639 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o2nOyNPusbM1; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 09:42:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vs1-f54.google.com (mail-vs1-f54.google.com [209.85.217.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A18A43A0C00; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 09:42:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vs1-f54.google.com with SMTP id w25so6428365vsk.9; Tue, 06 Oct 2020 09:42:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=W3cDnE2SraaCHIT488tQVhPrTVToR27mdbxr9cj42Zs=; b=mbLpXWOgQthrYwJhIIL1stc7rKQgHpCV90GRfLj2kn7POYfUn6ajJ4sP9fQJFiH+n/ xJQj3hvZ9NlBJshjWw1JvFigRkaHAvTKHhgQlbYvyY+TlQ8Q5hzBEMOIvSSMi2MZZ643 2JXbnTuSd8djVcijBsfxZYH3bfIMlvFXeh2EqIf6z104P+n842TiMklcEWv8q8lQc584 sW3mmljBaSHI3FqXdj94siAhFo9lC3fiMhWgJVJbCm7rWTnUzvVP0tjA9BPgb6frFQzJ Ac8OgYlYtvIFRfXd+udsbVlh4hE9D3XLMJGPQdKPdcLdy+h/yEKrzKGyARq+K6CGn0NN DVAw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530SZxrmM86FF6zl22Az1FEPd2Fwva8VoRPuYMeDt4V8fFBqkikP wQaD+2jFWJv9rKgI7IvFZ/OHpPxuBa7EWPjvyoY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwnYiuP2RFm4DlKShC4j/DUP1O9NPP8jyewMJ71fducBHeS0bCtguj3a/2Nm8P5frKDL5+7qHA+XkC2XhkGatY= X-Received: by 2002:a67:5ec6:: with SMTP id s189mr4055661vsb.14.1602002551554; Tue, 06 Oct 2020 09:42:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <160188581276.21683.15447401704086809302@ietfa.amsl.com> <667F776C-E22F-4F36-A50F-D143178F7F6C@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: From: Barry Leiba Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 12:42:20 -0400 Message-ID: To: Carsten Bormann Cc: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" , "asdf@ietf.org" , The IESG , "asdf-chairs@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Asdf] =?utf-8?q?=C3=89ric_Vyncke=27s_No_Objection_on_charter-ie?= =?utf-8?q?tf-asdf-00-02=3A_=28with_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: asdf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "A Semantic Description Format \(SDF\) for Things and their Interactions and Data" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2020 16:42:34 -0000 Done in -00-03. Barry On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 4:53 PM Carsten Bormann wrote: > > On 2020-10-05, at 10:47, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote: > > > > Thank you Carsten for the prompt reply and actions. This should improve= the charter. > > Now https://github.com/one-data-model/ietf108/pull/9 > (Obviously, this needs to be copied over to https://datatracker.ietf.org/= doc/charter-ietf-asdf/ then.) > > > BTW, when adding TLS to http://wishi.space, also please try to add IPv6= (for IoT-related this is mostly a must) even if it appears to be hosted by= github :-O > > I=E2=80=99ll probably need to set up an IPv6 to IPv4 TCP proxy to make th= at happen for a github-hosted site. > Sounds like a nice project for a winter evening at the fireside=E2=80=A6 > > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > From nobody Wed Oct 7 12:01:52 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asdf@ietf.org Delivered-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF513A1304; Wed, 7 Oct 2020 12:01:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Roman Danyliw via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: asdf-chairs@ietf.org, asdf@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.19.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Roman Danyliw Message-ID: <160209731074.26116.1051344896376154622@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2020 12:01:50 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Asdf] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on charter-ietf-asdf-00-03: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: asdf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "A Semantic Description Format \(SDF\) for Things and their Interactions and Data" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2020 19:01:51 -0000 Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-asdf-00-03: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-asdf/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To revisit my two items of feedback from the initial charter review: ** What is "Thing Interaction and Data Modelling"? ** What is currently outstanding to make SDF “IETF quality”? I worry that the text currently reads as “start with SDF and make it better”. Here is text that could address those: OLD The objective of the ASDF working group is to develop SDF to an IETF-quality specification for Thing Interaction and Data Modelling, working with experts from OneDM and its contributing organizations. On the way to that specification, further functionality requirements will be addressed that emerge in the usage of SDF for model harmonization. The ASDF WG will work closely with the CBOR WG, home of the CDDL specification. NEW The objective of the ASDF working group is to develop a standards-track SDF specification for thing interaction and data modelling. In the course of developing this specification, further functional requirements that emerge from the model harmonization will be addressed. The ASDF WG will work with the experts from OneDM and its contributing organization. In the IETF, it will work closely with the CBOR WG, home of the CDDL specification. Explanation of the edit proposed edit: -- s/an IETF-quality specification/standards-track specification/ which speaks more concretely the quality bar expected -- s/Thing Interaction and Data Modelling/thing interaction and data modeling/ because none of these are proper nouns. I got confused in the initial charter review because the capitalization made it read like this was a formal name for something (proper noun) -- s/working with experts from OneDM and its contributing organizations// because this paragraph should describe what the WG is doing. The reference to OneDM and contribution organization should be noted with the rest of partners (in the next paragraph). -- s/On the way to that specification, further functionality requirements will be addressed that emerge in the usage of SDF for model harmonization/ In the course of developing this specification, further functional requirements that emerge from the model harmonization will be addressed/ to make clear the source of the functional requirements and why they can’t be articulated now. 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<160216377451.10891.9229680723858346881@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2020 06:29:34 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Asdf] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on charter-ietf-asdf-00-03: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: asdf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "A Semantic Description Format \(SDF\) for Things and their Interactions and Data" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2020 13:29:37 -0000 Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-asdf-00-03: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-asdf/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The Thing-to-Thing Research Group (T2TRG) and its WISHI program can be instrumental in engaging researchers and other SDOs in this space, such as W3C Web of Things, which is working on Thing Description Templates and related specifications." This seems like a strange note to have in the charter for ASDF, as it is not about ASDF. I would suggest reframing this to talk about the expected interaction between ASDF and T2TRG rather than having an independent endorsement of T2TRG. 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<160209731074.26116.1051344896376154622@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: From: Barry Leiba Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 09:41:42 -0400 Message-ID: To: Niklas Widell Cc: Roman Danyliw , The IESG , "asdf@ietf.org" , "asdf-chairs@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Asdf] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on charter-ietf-asdf-00-03: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: asdf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "A Semantic Description Format \(SDF\) for Things and their Interactions and Data" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2020 13:41:56 -0000 Please confirm the final charter text with me, and I'll make the update in the datatracker. Barry On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 4:16 AM Niklas Widell wrote: > > > On 2020-10-07, 21:02, "ASDF on behalf of Roman Danyliw via Datatracker" <= asdf-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of noreply@ietf.org> wrote: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > To revisit my two items of feedback from the initial charter review: > > ** What is "Thing Interaction and Data Modelling"? > ** What is currently outstanding to make SDF =E2=80=9CIETF quality=E2= =80=9D? I worry that the > text currently reads as =E2=80=9Cstart with SDF and make it better=E2= =80=9D. > > Here is text that could address those: > > OLD > The objective of the ASDF working group is to develop SDF to an IETF-= quality > specification for Thing Interaction and Data Modelling, working with = experts > from OneDM and its contributing organizations. On the way to that > specification, further functionality requirements will be addressed t= hat emerge > in the usage of SDF for model harmonization. > > The ASDF WG will work closely with the CBOR WG, home of the CDDL spec= ification. > > NEW > > The objective of the ASDF working group is to develop a standards-tra= ck SDF > specification for thing interaction and data modelling. In the course= of > developing this specification, further functional requirements that e= merge from > the model harmonization will be addressed. > > The ASDF WG will work with the experts from OneDM and its contributin= g > organization. In the IETF, it will work closely with the CBOR WG, ho= me of the > CDDL specification. > > I think these changes look good > > PR here: https://github.com/one-data-model/ietf108/pull/10/files > (not merged to master yet if Carsten or Michael has comments, and not in = DT) > > Minor diffs: > s/course/process/ > s/organization/organizations/ - OneDM is the liaison activity of the part= icipating organizations (OCF, OMA SpecWorks etc), so it is right to use plu= ral here > > > Explanation of the edit proposed edit: > > -- s/an IETF-quality specification/standards-track specification/ whi= ch speaks > more concretely the quality bar expected > > -- s/Thing Interaction and Data Modelling/thing interaction and data = modeling/ > because none of these are proper nouns. I got confused in the initia= l charter > review because the capitalization made it read like this was a formal= name for > something (proper noun) > > Agree on Interaction and Data Modelling, on the fence with "Thing/thing" = since an IoT Thing is a common concept. But no big deal, so it is "thing" i= n proposed -04. > > -- s/working with experts from OneDM and its contributing organizatio= ns// > because this paragraph should describe what the WG is doing. The ref= erence to > OneDM and contribution organization should be noted with the rest of = partners > (in the next paragraph). > > Good point, moved > > -- s/On the way to that specification, further functionality requirem= ents will > be addressed that emerge in the usage of SDF for model harmonization/= In the > course of developing this specification, further functional requireme= nts that > emerge from the model harmonization will be addressed/ to make clear = the source > of the functional requirements and why they can=E2=80=99t be articula= ted now. If the > basis of how any deconfliction will be done can be noted, this would = be helpful > (e.g., minimize disruptive change across the existing models in the e= cosystem > now) > > Good point wrt deconfliction (interesting word, had to check exact meanin= g), the idea is to follow normal IETF process (rough consensus, objections = handled etc.). From OneDM perspective, the toolchains for model translation= have been successfully updated to reflect the development of SDF so far, s= o as Carsten noted in the BoF, so no special treatment ought to be needed. > > > -- > ASDF mailing list > ASDF@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asdf > From nobody Fri Oct 9 09:57:23 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asdf@ietf.org Delivered-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7B13A0B2C; Fri, 9 Oct 2020 09:57:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: barryleiba@computer.org, asdf@ietf.org, asdf-chairs@ietf.org, avezza@amsl.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.19.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <160226264147.15657.17374205861861990781@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2020 09:57:21 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Asdf] asdf - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109 X-BeenThere: asdf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "A Semantic Description Format \(SDF\) for Things and their Interactions and Data" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2020 16:57:22 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Amy K. 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Action: Formed A Semantic Definition Format for Data and Interactions of Things (asdf) X-BeenThere: asdf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "A Semantic Description Format \(SDF\) for Things and their Interactions and Data" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 17:26:55 -0000 A new IETF WG has been formed in the Applications and Real-Time Area. For additional information, please contact the Area Directors or the WG Chairs. A Semantic Definition Format for Data and Interactions of Things (asdf) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Current status: Proposed WG Chairs: Michael Richardson Niklas Widell Assigned Area Director: Barry Leiba Applications and Real-Time Area Directors: Barry Leiba Murray Kucherawy Mailing list: Address: asdf@ietf.org To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asdf Archive: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/asdf/ Group page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/asdf/ Charter: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-asdf/ ## Background Data and interaction models of IoT devices today exhibit unneeded diversity between different industry ecosystem standards development organizations (SDOs), hindering interoperability across these ecosystems with little discernible benefit from the diversity. Early 2019, One Data Model (OneDM) was started to bring several IoT SDOs and IoT device and platform vendors together under a broad, multi-party liaison agreement, with a goal of arriving at a common set of data and interaction models that describe IoT devices. Ideally, for every class of IoT device, there is just a single model selected/created by the participating organizations, which everyone can adopt. As a common language for writing down these models, the Semantic Definition Format (SDF, draft-onedm-t2trg-sdf) was created, which can represent IoT Things, their composition from reusable Objects, their Interaction Affordances (Properties, Actions, Events), and the data models relevant to describe these Affordances. SDF represents these models in JSON, enabling re-use of specification formats such as CDDL (RFC8610) and the formats proposed at json-schema.org and their tooling, for describing both the SDF format itself and the structure of the data to be modelled in SDF. By July 2020, some 200 models in SDF format have been contributed by participating ecosystems; new models are being submitted continually. Version 1.0 of the SDF specification was published on the OneDM github repository and as an Internet-Draft. OneDM is now focusing on consolidating the body of submitted models and developing processes for arriving at harmonized models that span different industry ecosystems in a common way; as expressed at the IETF 108 ASDF BoF, they look to the IETF for developing SDF 1.0 further into a high-quality specification. The IETF also defines the YANG data modelling language (RFC 7950). YANG has a strong focus on modelling the management interface for network devices, using a fairly small set of network management protocols, whereas SDF is designed to span (and transitively unify) many existing interaction models already present. While data associated with a YANG schema can be serialized to a variety of wire formats (e.g., XML, JSON, CBOR, and others), the serialization is driven directly by the structure of the data models defined in YANG; there is no separate "protocol binding" step as in the use of SDF. Conversely, SDF does not deal directly with serialization at all, modelling only the structure and semantics of the data being interchanged, hence leaving data serialization (and RPC semantics) to other standards, most likely defined by existing IoT SDOs. ## The ASDF Working Group The objective of the ASDF working group is to develop SDF into a standards-track specification for thing interaction and data modelling. In the process of developing this specification, further functional requirements that emerge in the usage of SDF for model harmonization will be addressed. The ASDF WG will work with experts from OneDM and its contributing organizations. In the IETF, it will work closely with the CBOR WG, home of the CDDL specification. It will also engage the still active mailing list of the concluded JSON WG. Recent proposals to form an IRTF formal description techniques (FDT) Research Group might lead to another collaboration partner. ASDF will work with Thing-to-Thing Research Group (T2TRG) and its WISHI (Work on IoT Semantic/Hypermedia Interoperability, http://wishi.space) program to engage researchers and other SDOs in this space, such as W3C Web of Things, which is working on Thing Models and related specifications. Milestones: Oct 2020 - SDF specification, WG document adopted Sep 2021 - SDF specification, publication requested From nobody Fri Oct 16 16:33:52 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D323A0965 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 2020 16:33:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PSJdNe26qNRM for ; Fri, 16 Oct 2020 16:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 869653A097A for ; Fri, 16 Oct 2020 16:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dcc60.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.204.96]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4CCjCH0YV7zyY7; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 01:33:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 624584026.830488-1409594b26ed4a43a6676db200d8f6ef Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Message-Id: <8F6AE6F2-65FA-4E5D-AC72-1CBC330B79DF@tzi.org> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 01:33:46 +0200 To: asdf@ietf.org, coinrg@irtf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: [Asdf] Constrained Node/Network Cluster @ IETF109: DRAFT AGENDA X-BeenThere: asdf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "A Semantic Description Format \(SDF\) for Things and their Interactions and Data" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 23:33:51 -0000 Here is my usual eclectic condensed agenda based on the DRAFT AGENDA for IETF109. Remember that there is still quite some potential for changes. The conflicts that meet the eye this time seem to impact generalists = only. Great scheduling job! All times *on my agenda* are in UTC (the default page is UTC+0700). https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda-utc might be handy. Note that both EU and US are on winter time (standard time) then. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten MONDAY, November 9, 2020 0500-0700 Hackathon Kickoff Rm 1 GEN hackathon Hackathon FRIDAY, November 13, 2020 0500-0700 Hackathon Closing Rm 1 GEN hackathon Hackathon MONDAY, November 16, 2020 0500-0700 Session I Rm 1 ART dispatch Dispatch WG - Joint with ARTAREA Rm 3 IRTF qirg Quantum Internet Research Group Rm 5 RTG raw Reliable and Available Wireless WG Rm 6 SEC *** lake Lightweight Authenticated Key Exchange = WG 0730-0830 Session II Rm 3 INT add Adaptive DNS Discovery WG Rm 4 IRTF maprg Measurement and Analysis for Protocols Rm 7 SEC *** cose CBOR Object Signing and Encryption WG 0900-1100 Session III Rm 1 ART jsonpath JSON Path WG Rm 6 SEC secdispatch Security Dispatch WG Rm 7 TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG TUESDAY, November 17, 2020 0500-0700 Session I Rm 1 ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Rm 2 INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Rm 7 SEC gnap Grant Negotiation and Authorization = Protocol WG 0730-0830 Session II Rm 5 RTG babel Babel routing protocol WG Rm 6 SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG 0900-1100 Session III Rm 1 ART *** asdf A Semantic Definition Format for Data = and Interactions of Things WG Rm 2 IRTF irtfopen IRTF Open Meeting Rm 4 RTG apn Application-aware Networking BOF Rm 7 SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS WG WEDNESDAY, November 18, 2020 0500-0700 Session I Rm 3 INT madinas MAC Address Device Identification for = Network and Application Services BOF Rm 5 RTG bier Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG Rm 7 SEC *** ace Authentication and Authorization for = Constrained Environments WG Rm 8 TSV quic QUIC WG 0730-0830 Session II Rm 3 INT *** 6lo IPv6 over Networks of = Resource-constrained Nodes WG Rm 4 INT *** drip Drone Remote ID Protocol WG Rm 7 SEC *** teep Trusted Execution Environment = Provisioning WG Rm 8 TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG THURSDAY, November 19, 2020 0500-0700 Session I Rm 3 IRTF coinrg Computing in the Network Research Group Rm 7 SEC saag Security Area Open Meeting 0730-0830 Session II Rm 1 ART *** cbor Concise Binary Object Representation = Maintenance and Extensions WG Rm 2 INT intarea Internet Area Working Group WG Rm 3 RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG Rm 5 SEC acme Automated Certificate Management = Environment WG 0900-1100 Session III Rm 4 OPS v6ops IPv6 Operations WG Rm 6 RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy = networks WG Rm 7 SEC mls Messaging Layer Security WG Rm 8 SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS WG FRIDAY, November 20, 2020 0500-0700 Session I Rm 2 INT add Adaptive DNS Discovery WG Rm 6 RTG rift Routing In Fat Trees WG Rm 7 SEC emu EAP Method Update WG 0730-0830 Session II Rm 1 ART httpapi Building Blocks for HTTP APIs WG Rm 2 INT *** lwig Light-Weight Implementation Guidance WG Rm 3 OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model = and Approach WG Rm 6 SEC *** suit Software Updates for Internet of Things = WG Rm 7 TSV tsvarea Transport Area Open Meeting 0900-1100 Session III Rm 1 ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Rm 2 INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Rm 4 IRTF cfrg Crypto Forum Rm 7 TSV masque Multiplexed Application Substrate over = QUIC Encryption WG From nobody Mon Oct 19 13:57:37 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asdf@ietf.org Delivered-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A558D3A09E7; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 13:57:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IESG Secretary To: "IETF-Announce" Cc: asdf@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.20.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <160314105256.30516.4749779840189567809@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 13:57:32 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Asdf] A Semantic Definition Format for Data and Interactions of Things (asdf) WG Virtual Meeting: 2020-11-02 X-BeenThere: asdf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "A Semantic Description Format \(SDF\) for Things and their Interactions and Data" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 20:57:33 -0000 The A Semantic Definition Format for Data and Interactions of Things (asdf) WG will hold a virtual interim meeting on 2020-11-02 from 18:00 to 19:00 UTC. Agenda: (No agenda submitted) Information about remote participation: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m453af1f5a6ea01ce51f802bbcca6a0ca From nobody Mon Oct 19 18:08:41 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8064D3A1394 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 18:08:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DWo5Vw3_LMwl for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 18:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8009C3A10E7 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 18:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D899738995 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 21:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id beBJC_CMj5wf for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 21:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618B238993 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 21:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6105C976 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 21:08:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: asdf@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <160314105256.30516.4749779840189567809@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <160314105256.30516.4749779840189567809@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 26.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Asdf] A Semantic Definition Format for Data and Interactions of Things (asdf) WG Virtual Meeting: 2020-11-02 X-BeenThere: asdf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "A Semantic Description Format \(SDF\) for Things and their Interactions and Data" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 01:08:39 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable IESG Secretary wrote: > The A Semantic Definition Format for Data and Interactions of Things = (asdf) WG will hold > a virtual interim meeting on 2020-11-02 from 18:00 to 19:00 UTC. > Agenda: > (No agenda submitted) Hi, please plan for a 90minute meeting. My typo. The agenda has been posted at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-asdf-01/session/asdf and: https://github.com/ietf-wg-asdf/asdf-working-group-notes/blob/main/age= ndas/2020-11-02-agenda.md (Pull requests welcome) Niklas and Michael. =2D- Michael Richardson . o O ( IPv6 I=C3=B8T consulti= ng ) Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAl+OOJIACgkQgItw+93Q 3WU0Agf/bFRRp65upaY4aCOssYPCd6QLwAY3AIb6BPJHH4Y6nS5VoiwzOL2vmxHO KhbR+rY12UOK67XgVFLsM42yy1oev8et7mCnKJKW9On/el5IelZw3j/L1GqmmEOe CKpzEjhbGaqQ3D2x3BXmrZKQwNar5pPIvD6SYW7XLSMe41F3K3QzkKqwyJvd7mEY 5TOeZb85l4jthKvk9rGFjUm/FSTwHehLn/IYENN3wpEyO8QdHEK7ylGZtpbzYwp/ yBV05K7OkDGiG4Q5JlWlEssa6PQLO+M9dG6p4olEfUxMy6Q5VlL2T3h49F+b8mHn 6xG1XyNF4h8wfSONqmd/Q9DXOzvQlQ== =B6/D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Mon Oct 19 18:09:43 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asdf@ietf.org Delivered-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6595A3A13A3; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 18:09:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.20.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <160315618139.20616.16757674916563638534@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 18:09:41 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Asdf] The ASDF WG has placed draft-onedm-t2trg-sdf in state "Candidate for WG Adoption" X-BeenThere: asdf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "A Semantic Description Format \(SDF\) for Things and their Interactions and Data" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 01:09:41 -0000 The ASDF WG has placed draft-onedm-t2trg-sdf in state Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Michael Richardson) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-onedm-t2trg-sdf/ From nobody Tue Oct 20 06:37:32 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8653A0B45 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 06:37:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k5cRYNon13EV for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 06:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE77F3A0A10 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 06:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8953D38999 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 09:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id LRz3W2IDIBPB for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 09:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.21]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AABF38997 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 09:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0611FA94 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 09:37:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: asdf@ietf.org X-Attribution: mcr X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 26.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: [Asdf] WG plan to adopt of draft-onedm-t2trg-sdf X-BeenThere: asdf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "A Semantic Description Format \(SDF\) for Things and their Interactions and Data" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 13:37:31 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Our charter calls out draft-onedm-t2trg-sdf as the basis for our work. The chairs intend to adopt this document on November 2. Adoption of the document does not imply that we will publish it as if, or in any form. (No endorsement is implied) Adoption implies that this is the basis for the work, and transfers editori= al control to the WG (and the IETF). We are asking for substantive objections to the current state of the document and the chosen editors (Michael Koster and Carsten Bormann) Objections might be in the form of: - there is a better basis for this work - I'm aware of IPR (X) which has not been disclosed, and/or is incompati= ble with the IETF - the chosen editors will not be acceptable If you have editorial comments on the document, they are always welcome. Once adopted the github repo will move to https://github.com/ietf-wg-asdf/ Niklas and Michael. =2D- Michael Richardson . o O ( IPv6 I=C3=B8T consulti= ng ) Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAl+O6BQACgkQgItw+93Q 3WViVQf/QTFSJmganQqqUBLpNo2pOwln/LzJVvDBt+X/itl1tcVjuMiTZjVrmph6 e63g4r2fJeVzXou2n5xBMII/uwJjE2LSeSrg3WUpwozFraaIKgaxSWySbWmQdtsw yq0ro9sefZ7wCFgPuSykg8N/VYYwlOGLyvbQeOOXG2rVHDrK0gKlMuaISB1fJDkV WogjUu1ge8liRD4IArPTNT3OKGFGsfwVybCkTaWGJ1dakAFhssHzzMBa6SQETj+h G4HUZUkvcAVVlhES020pi8TpGhaN+8c7isdZIBvYnErHMLz76st21pKbri11XF5y yhfU7JP2HnRXnNT7YfIyuFmDr6FFEw== =OU19 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Tue Oct 20 08:31:55 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asdf@ietf.org Delivered-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E653A10F5; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 08:31:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IESG Secretary To: "IETF-Announce" Cc: asdf@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.20.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <160320790796.24858.10486045910324234936@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 08:31:47 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Asdf] A Semantic Definition Format for Data and Interactions of Things (asdf) WG Virtual Meeting: 2020-11-02 CHANGED X-BeenThere: asdf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "A Semantic Description Format \(SDF\) for Things and their Interactions and Data" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 15:31:48 -0000 MEETING DETAILS HAVE CHANGED. SEE LATEST DETAILS BELOW. The A Semantic Definition Format for Data and Interactions of Things (asdf) WG will hold a virtual interim meeting on 2020-11-02 from 18:00 to 19:30 UTC. Agenda: ASDF -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting Nov 2, 2020 **** 18:00 UTC 19:00 Berlin/Paris/CET 13:00 NYC 10:00 San Francisco INFO: MEETING INFO: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-asdf-01/session/asdf AGENDA: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2020-asdf-01-sessa/ jabber: xmpp:asdf@jabber.ietf.org WEB CONFERENCE: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m453af1f5a6ea01ce51f802bbcca6a0ca These notes at: https://github.com/ietf-wg-asdf/asdf-working-group-notes.git 1. Note Well. https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/ 2. Logistics for Meeting. 2a) Etherpad for notes https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2020-asdf-01-asdf?edit 2b) WEBEX for speaking. https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m453af1f5a6ea01ce51f802bbcca6a0ca 2c) Roll call/Blue sheet 3. WG status update * NOW CHARTERED * Welcome and discussion of WG proceedures AOB? Information about remote participation: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m453af1f5a6ea01ce51f802bbcca6a0ca From nobody Fri Oct 23 14:19:27 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asdf@ietf.org Delivered-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A573A0BBE; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:15:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: asdf@ietf.org, barryleiba@computer.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.20.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <160348775318.5087.6896102325314008213@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:15:56 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Asdf] asdf - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 109 X-BeenThere: asdf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "A Semantic Description Format \(SDF\) for Things and their Interactions and Data" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 21:16:01 -0000 Dear Amy Vezza, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. asdf Session 1 (2:00 requested) Tuesday, 17 November 2020, Session III 1600-1800 Room Name: Room 1 size: 501 --------------------------------------------- iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/109/sessions/asdf.ics Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: A Semantic Definition Format for Data and Interactions of Things Area Name: Applications and Real-Time Area Session Requester: Amy Vezza Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 40 Conflicts to Avoid: Technology Overlap: t2trg core netmod cbor jmap cose dispatch anima jsonpath People who must be present: Barry Leiba Michael Richardson Niklas Widell Resources Requested: Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Fri Oct 23 14:57:24 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: asdf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5F93A0971 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:57:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hQpfX4N6Bchy for ; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE2603A0976 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dcc60.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.204.96]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4CHykh4Ypmzycx; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 23:57:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 625183036.4725159-ec7a0c57613ce24c7033d37038742ac8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Message-Id: <823AD7F2-D49F-4C8D-A1DA-BE673F9B2FE9@tzi.org> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 23:57:16 +0200 To: asdf@ietf.org, coin@irtf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: [Asdf] [Cbor] Constrained Node/Network Cluster @ IETF109: "FINAL" AGENDA X-BeenThere: asdf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "A Semantic Description Format \(SDF\) for Things and their Interactions and Data" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 21:57:22 -0000 Here is my usual eclectic condensed agenda based on the "FINAL" AGENDA for IETF109. Remember that further agenda changes can still happen. Very little has changed with respect to the draft agenda. WEBTRANS does meet, and CFRG and IRTFOPEN have been moved around (CFRG now on top of CORE, unfortunately). All times *on my agenda* are in UTC (the default page is UTC+0700). https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda-utc might be handy. Note that both EU and US are on winter time (standard time) then. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten MONDAY, November 9, 2020 0500-0700 Hackathon Kickoff Rm 1 GEN hackathon Hackathon FRIDAY, November 13, 2020 0500-0700 Hackathon Closing Rm 1 GEN hackathon Hackathon MONDAY, November 16, 2020 0500-0700 Session I Rm 1 ART dispatch Dispatch WG - Joint with ARTAREA Rm 3 IRTF qirg Quantum Internet Research Group Rm 5 RTG raw Reliable and Available Wireless WG Rm 6 SEC *** lake Lightweight Authenticated Key Exchange WG 0730-0830 Session II Rm 2 INT add Adaptive DNS Discovery WG Rm 3 IRTF maprg Measurement and Analysis for Protocols Rm 6 SEC *** cose CBOR Object Signing and Encryption WG 0900-1100 Session III Rm 1 ART jsonpath JSON Path WG Rm 2 ART webtrans WebTransport WG Rm 7 SEC secdispatch Security Dispatch WG Rm 8 TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG TUESDAY, November 17, 2020 0500-0700 Session I Rm 1 ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Rm 2 INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Rm 3 IRTF cfrg Crypto Forum Rm 7 SEC gnap Grant Negotiation and Authorization Protocol WG 0730-0830 Session II Rm 5 RTG babel Babel routing protocol WG Rm 6 SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG 0900-1100 Session III Rm 1 ART *** asdf A Semantic Definition Format for Data and = Interactions of Things WG Rm 5 RTG apn Application-aware Networking BOF Rm 8 SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS WG WEDNESDAY, November 18, 2020 0500-0700 Session I Rm 3 INT madinas MAC Address Device Identification for Network = and Application Services BOF Rm 5 RTG bier Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG Rm 7 SEC *** ace Authentication and Authorization for Constrained = Environments WG Rm 8 TSV quic QUIC WG 0730-0830 Session II Rm 3 INT *** 6lo IPv6 over Networks of Resource-constrained Nodes = WG Rm 4 INT *** drip Drone Remote ID Protocol WG Rm 7 SEC *** teep Trusted Execution Environment Provisioning WG Rm 8 TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG THURSDAY, November 19, 2020 0500-0700 Session I Rm 3 IRTF coinrg Computing in the Network Research Group Rm 7 SEC saag Security Area Open Meeting 0730-0830 Session II Rm 1 ART *** cbor Concise Binary Object Representation Maintenance = and Extensions WG Rm 2 INT intarea Internet Area Working Group WG Rm 3 RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG Rm 5 SEC acme Automated Certificate Management Environment WG 0900-1100 Session III Rm 4 OPS v6ops IPv6 Operations WG Rm 6 RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks WG Rm 7 SEC mls Messaging Layer Security WG Rm 8 SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS WG FRIDAY, November 20, 2020 0500-0700 Session I Rm 2 INT add Adaptive DNS Discovery WG Rm 6 RTG rift Routing In Fat Trees WG Rm 7 SEC emu EAP Method Update WG 0730-0830 Session II Rm 1 ART httpapi Building Blocks for HTTP APIs WG Rm 2 INT *** lwig Light-Weight Implementation Guidance WG Rm 3 OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model and = Approach WG Rm 6 SEC *** suit Software Updates for Internet of Things WG Rm 7 TSV tsvarea Transport Area Open Meeting 0900-1100 Session III Rm 1 ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Rm 3 INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Rm 5 IRTF irtfopen IRTF Open Meeting Rm 8 TSV masque Multiplexed Application Substrate over QUIC = Encryption WG _______________________________________________ CBOR mailing list CBOR@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cbor