From keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com Mon Feb 14 05:58:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150153A6D2F for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 05:58:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.349 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.349 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.900, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6NJyPmnv9qFL for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 05:58:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from smail2.alcatel.fr (smail2.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6821B3A6D30 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 05:58:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.62]) by smail2.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id p1EDwSWW004595 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:58:35 +0100 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSC3.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.46]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.62]) with mapi; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:58:31 +0100 From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" To: "avtext@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:58:30 +0100 Thread-Topic: Considerations for RAMS Scenarios Thread-Index: AcvMT0L0SGSBRxUjRcShFMgJ2DtoKA== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 155.132.188.80 Subject: [avtext] Considerations for RAMS Scenarios X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:58:17 -0000 (As AVTEXT WG chair) The AVTEXT WG has a milestone: Jun 2011 Submit Considerations for RAMS Scenarios for Informational =20 Which is meant to be the additional material in support of the RAMS documen= tation. We have author draft=20 http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-begen-avt-rams-scenarios-00.txt which I have requested Ali to revise. If you wish to submit your own drafts for consideration as source material = for this document, or have other ideas for inclusion that you wish to post = to the mailing list, now would be an appropriate time to do that. Regards Keith= From keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com Mon Feb 14 06:23:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCD23A6D54 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 06:23:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.461 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.461 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.788, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QRt0NJad3YeK for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 06:23:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from smail2.alcatel.fr (smail2.alcatel.fr [62.23.212.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950A43A6D4A for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 06:23:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.63]) by smail2.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id p1EEGXQc015538 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:23:50 +0100 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSC3.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.46]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.63]) with mapi; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:23:33 +0100 From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" To: "avtext@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:23:32 +0100 Thread-Topic: Call for adoption of text for audio level milestones Thread-Index: Acu+MlsFvM0YX6CeQySkhDVDbOUeWQOFtXPg Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 155.132.188.80 Subject: Re: [avtext] Call for adoption of text for audio level milestones X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:23:32 -0000 (As WG chair) I have seen no objections to the use of the text of these two drafts in ful= filment of the milestones and therefore declare WG consensus on this questi= on. The WG chairs would like to ask Emil Ivov to act as editor for Submit RTP H= eader extension for mixer to client audio level indication as Proposed Stan= dard and submit the text as: draft-ietf-avtext-mixer-to-client-audio-level-00 and Jonathan Lennox to act as editor for Submit RTP Header extension for cl= ient to mixer audio level indication as proposed standard and submit the te= xt as: draft-ietf-avtext-client-to-mixer-audio-level-00 Note the existing author draft names are somewhat obscure as to the differe= nce between the two documents hence the renaming. Regards Keith > -----Original Message----- > From: avtext-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:avtext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of DRAGE, Keith (Keith) > Sent: 27 January 2011 14:56 > To: IETF AVT WG; avtext@ietf.org > Subject: [avtext] Call for adoption of text for audio level milestones >=20 > (As AVTEXT WG cochair) >=20 > This message is copied to the AVTCORE list for those who are=20 > not yet on the new list. >=20 > AVTEXT has two milestones relating to audio levels. >=20 > Oct 2011 Submit RTP Header extension for mixer to client=20 > audio level indication as Proposed Standard=20 > =20 > Oct 2011 Submit RTP Header extension for client to mixer=20 > audio level indication as proposed standard =20 >=20 > We have the following author drafts providing candidate text=20 > for these milestones: >=20 > A Real-Time Transport Protocol (RTP) Extension Header for=20 > Mixer-to-client Audio Level Indication=20 > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ivov-avt-slic-04.txt >=20 > A Real-Time Transport Protocol (RTP) Header Extension for=20 > Client-to-Mixer Audio Level Indication=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-lennox-avt-rtp-audio-level-exth > dr-02.txt >=20 > respectively. >=20 > This is a WG consensus call to adopt the above text as=20 > baseline text for these milestones. At this stage the text=20 > does not have to be regarded perfect, the question is more=20 > "Does this text form a better basis for completing the work=20 > in the working group that some text yet to be submitted?" >=20 > While the prime intention of this call is to adopt the entire=20 > text of the author draft, if you consider that some of the=20 > text is appropriate, but that some of the text does not form=20 > a reasonable start for the work, then please indicate that=20 > text and we will make a separate call on it (and adopt the rest). >=20 > Please respond by Thursday 10th February 2011 with your positions.=20 >=20 > ######### Please respond to the AVTEXT list only ############# >=20 > Regards >=20 > Keith >=20 > _______________________________________________ > avtext mailing list > avtext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avtext > = From magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com Mon Feb 14 08:05:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8103B3A6C0A for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 08:05:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9FnSWW7iULOe for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 08:05:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw9.se.ericsson.net (mailgw9.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E9B3A6D20 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 08:05:30 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb39-b7cfbae000005c8e-69-4d5952e0e6b6 Received: from esessmw0184.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw9.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 91.FD.23694.0E2595D4; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:05:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from [147.214.183.8] (153.88.115.8) by esessmw0184.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.82) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.234.1; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:05:51 +0100 Message-ID: <4D5952DF.9010101@ericsson.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:05:51 +0100 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: avtext@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: [avtext] Call for Agenda Time Request for Prague X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:05:31 -0000 WG participants We would appreciate as early as possible to learn how many topics requiring WG discussion we can expect. So if you already now know that you have something that should be discussed at the first AVText WG meeting please send us chairs your request for agenda time. In the request please included: Title of Agenda Slot: Relevant I-Ds: Presenter: Requested amount of time: Intended usage of agenda slot: We will first provide time for WG items, then any individual contribution. We will also consider the intended usage and premier things meeting our existing milestones and concluding open issues. Cheers Magnus Westerlund AVText Chair. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From abegen@cisco.com Tue Feb 15 13:26:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB6B3A6CB9 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:26:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1KbhriA5Or-6 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:26:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com (sj-iport-2.cisco.com [171.71.176.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692323A6C64 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:26:23 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiEBADZ+Wk2rR7Hu/2dsb2JhbACXAo5ac6Bxm1yFXgSFBYo4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,476,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="310976557" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 15 Feb 2011 21:26:50 +0000 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p1FLQnbX027708; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:26:50 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.169]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:26:49 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:26:39 -0800 Message-ID: <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D540E57B26D@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Considerations for RAMS Scenarios Thread-Index: AcvMT0L0SGSBRxUjRcShFMgJ2DtoKABB173A From: "Ali C. Begen (abegen)" To: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Feb 2011 21:26:49.0821 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E6F38D0:01CBCD57] Subject: Re: [avtext] Considerations for RAMS Scenarios X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:26:24 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: avtext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:avtext-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of DRAGE, Keith (Keith) > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 8:59 AM > To: avtext@ietf.org > Subject: [avtext] Considerations for RAMS Scenarios >=20 > (As AVTEXT WG chair) >=20 > The AVTEXT WG has a milestone: >=20 > Jun 2011 Submit Considerations for RAMS Scenarios for Informational >=20 > Which is meant to be the additional material in support of the RAMS = documentation. >=20 > We have author draft >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-begen-avt-rams-scenarios-00.txt >=20 > which I have requested Ali to revise. The update is now available: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-begen-avt-rams-scenarios/ -acbegen =20 > If you wish to submit your own drafts for consideration as source = material for this document, or have other ideas for > inclusion that you wish to post to the mailing list, now would be an = appropriate time to do that. >=20 > Regards >=20 > Keith > _______________________________________________ > avtext mailing list > avtext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avtext From Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Fri Feb 18 03:45:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A2C3A6DB9; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:45:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.078, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FvAszyP5ndlj; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:45:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5931A3A6AE5; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:45:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.12 Message-ID: <20110218114502.12922.69892.idtracker@localhost> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:45:02 -0800 Cc: avtext@ietf.org Subject: [avtext] I-D Action:draft-ietf-avtext-mixer-to-client-audio-level-00.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:45:04 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Working Group of the IETF. Title : A Real-Time Transport Protocol (RTP) Header Extension for Mixer-to- Client Audio Level Indication Author(s) : E. Ivov, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-mixer-to-client-audio-level-00.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2011-02-18 This document describes a mechanism for RTP-level mixers in audio conferences to deliver information about the audio level of the individual participants. Such audio level indicators are transported in the same RTP packets as the audio data they pertain to. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-avtext-mixer-to-client-audio-level-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-avtext-mixer-to-client-audio-level-00.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2011-02-18034153.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Fri Feb 18 03:45:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFDD3A6D63; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:45:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.523 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.076, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5g4sbxtcjG6H; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:45:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA083A6D69; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:45:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.12 Message-ID: <20110218114503.12922.3736.idtracker@localhost> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:45:03 -0800 Cc: avtext@ietf.org Subject: [avtext] I-D Action:draft-ietf-avtext-client-to-mixer-audio-level-00.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:45:04 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Working Group of the IETF. Title : A Real-Time Transport Protocol (RTP) Header Extension for Client-to- Mixer Audio Level Indication Author(s) : J. Lennox, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-client-to-mixer-audio-level-00.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2011-02-18 This document defines a mechanism by which packets of Real-Time Transport Protocol (RTP) audio streams can indicate, in an RTP header extension, the audio level of the audio sample carried in the RTP packet. In large conferences, this can reduce the load on an audio mixer or other middlebox which wants to forward only a few of the loudest audio streams, without requiring it to decode and measure every stream that is received. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-avtext-client-to-mixer-audio-level-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-avtext-client-to-mixer-audio-level-00.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2011-02-18034238.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From peter.musgrave@magorcorp.com Fri Feb 18 10:18:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4DE3A6DDA for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:18:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id efQkB-VjAgxj for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:18:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2783A6D36 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:18:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by iym1 with SMTP id 1so4049834iym.31 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:18:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.199.206 with SMTP id et14mr733452ibb.168.1298053135576; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:18:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.216.87] ([72.1.217.106]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm1967523iba.22.2011.02.18.10.18.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:18:54 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Musgrave Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:18:53 -0500 Message-Id: To: avtext@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Subject: Re: [avtext] draft-ietf-avtext-mixer-to-client-audio-level-00.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:18:22 -0000 Hi, Looking at this doc and it's "inverse" = (draft-ietf-avtext-client-to-mixer-audio-level-00.txt ) I think both are in good shape and describe a very useful extension.=20 The V bit in the client to mixer is used to indicate that it is believed = voice is present in the sample (to aid the mixer).=20 I think it would be good future-proofing to maintain this capability in = the mixer to client case - to allow future implementations with cascaded = mixers to take advantage of the V bit. (So instead of a MSB of 0, let = this be the V bit). Regards,=20 Peter Musgrave=