From ietf-ipr@ietf.org Thu Dec 13 10:22:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF70521F8B1D; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:22:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.418 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.418 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.181, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ESDZz9q3XIDq; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E1021F89F9; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:22:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: IETF Secretariat To: jonathan@vidyo.com, enrico.marocco@telecomitalia.it, emcho@jitsi.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.36 Message-ID: <20121213182204.13129.86446.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:22:04 -0800 Cc: avtext@ietf.org, ipr-announce@ietf.org Subject: [avtext] IPR Disclosure: Microsoft Corporation's Statement about IPR related to RFC 6465 X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:22:05 -0000 Dear Jonathan Lennox, Enrico Marocco, Emil Ivov: An IPR disclosure that pertains to your RFC entitled "A Real-time Transport Protocol (RTP) Header Extension for Mixer-to-Client Audio Level Indication" (RFC6465) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on 2012-12-12 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1940/). The title of the IPR disclosure is "Microsoft Corporation's Statement about IPR related to RFC 6465.""); The IETF Secretariat From kevin.gross@avanw.com Mon Dec 17 12:51:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD08821F87AB for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:51:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.476 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.476 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.500, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x7uYHqbMUIOl for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:51:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from oproxy11-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy11-pub.bluehost.com [173.254.64.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DE0A721F8776 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:51:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7833 invoked by uid 0); 17 Dec 2012 20:50:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host291.hostmonster.com) (74.220.215.91) by oproxy11.bluehost.com with SMTP; 17 Dec 2012 20:50:33 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=avanw.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:Cc:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version; bh=vDLdRwi6QesT6SlBxFn7BXk+zqYp6M6LWvl6kglC0M4=; b=kAqivpkr6rJD4b0tOoEdUevspBLsklNqJbszDDg9KRfUBrePU0DV+9usK70s1kL8sOQmQ9QUvaQbgpnl6OUbcArdympAYMN2ywQ5Z1m6ZS6W7uHKCRvth47l7Tvedsr2; Received: from [209.85.223.172] (port=45993 helo=mail-ie0-f172.google.com) by host291.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tkhdx-0007Ob-7r for avtext@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:50:33 -0700 Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id c13so9962553ieb.31 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:50:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.152.243 with SMTP id vb19mr10641324igb.16.1355777432407; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:50:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.151.135 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:50:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50B35E0B.2010602@ericsson.com> References: <50B35E0B.2010602@ericsson.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:50:32 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kevin Gross To: Magnus Westerlund Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f3b9df340d01604d11288fe X-Identified-User: {1416:host291.hostmonster.com:avanwcom:avanw.com} {sentby:smtp auth 209.85.223.172 authed with kevin.gross@avanw.com} Cc: "avtext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [avtext] Minutes for AVTEXT meeting at IETF 85 X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:51:04 -0000 --e89a8f3b9df340d01604d11288fe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice work. The minutes match the notes I took during the meeting. Kevin Gross On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Magnus Westerlund < magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> wrote: > WG, > > Please review the AVTEXT minutes for IETF 85. > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/minutes/minutes-85-avtext > > Please send any comments or request for corrections to the WG or chairs. > > Once more thanks to our note takers: Bill VerSteeg and Xavier Marjou > > Cheers > > Magnus Westerlund > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 > F=E4r=F6gatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 > SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > avtext mailing list > avtext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avtext > --e89a8f3b9df340d01604d11288fe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice work. The minutes match the notes I took during the meeting.

Kevin Gross

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Magnus Westerlund = <mag= nus.westerlund@ericsson.com> wrote:
WG,

Please review the AVTEXT minutes for IETF 85.
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/minutes/minutes-85-avtex= t

Please send any comments or request for corrections to the WG or chairs.
Once more thanks to our note takers: Bill VerSteeg and Xavier Marjou

Cheers

Magnus Westerlund

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--e89a8f3b9df340d01604d11288fe-- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sat Dec 29 14:25:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C70421F84B2; Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:25:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.523 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.076, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2Z4Sr53hmQfq; Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:25:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FA621F8444; Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:25:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.37 Message-ID: <20121229222511.27238.86234.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:25:11 -0800 Cc: avtext@ietf.org Subject: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication-01.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:25:11 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Working = Group of the IETF. Title : Duplicating RTP Streams Author(s) : Ali Begen Colin Perkins Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication-01.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2012-12-29 Abstract: Packet loss is undesirable for real-time multimedia sessions, but can occur due to congestion, or other unplanned network outages. This is especially true for IP multicast networks, where packet loss patterns can vary greatly between receivers. One technique that can be used to recover from packet loss without incurring unbounded delay for all the receivers is to duplicate the packets and send them in separate redundant streams. This document explains how Real-time Transport Protocol (RTP) streams can be duplicated without breaking RTP media streams, or RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) rules. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication-01 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From abegen@cisco.com Sat Dec 29 14:29:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2CF21F87E5 for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:29:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.524 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i6W4tGlegilv for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:29:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com [173.37.86.78]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5064A21F84FB for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:29:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2352; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1356820185; x=1358029785; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=FVkTQRzW61tyC0F2CBfjlnxdkvooca6wO9P9biuSL8g=; b=FhpKSD1RzPUlA9bp3pdxBONPbDm6v0cTFZzsH68Lwm9v1DwgHDtDrk48 3NzF8ezVDK/JKmLC29lithHAkGjBkR+ncKJpSFBZojCL7AGFs5cmPtq11 Xuftvxa0m3pPeWQ+pjzPjYmLjKsVEW4OMqwUsyq60uhs+0SKEb17fPEvV w=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgIFAKNu31CtJXHA/2dsb2JhbABEgmyBAbl3FnOCHgEBAQQBAQE3NAYRBgEIEQMBAgsUNwsbAQEFAwIEEwgBiAoBBgWXU58pjFeDYmEDlyiPLIJ0giY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,379,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="157386234" Received: from rcdn-core2-5.cisco.com ([173.37.113.192]) by rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Dec 2012 22:29:33 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x11.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x11.cisco.com [173.36.12.85]) by rcdn-core2-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qBTMTXg7017635 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:29:33 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x01.cisco.com ([fe80::747b:83e1:9755:d453]) by xhc-aln-x11.cisco.com ([173.36.12.85]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Sat, 29 Dec 2012 16:29:32 -0600 From: "Ali C. Begen (abegen)" To: "avtext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication-01.txt Thread-Index: AQHN5hNfhx0TRq0RaEOxa7fnVHm4JpgwbIwA Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:29:31 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20121229222511.27238.86234.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.5.121010 x-originating-ip: [10.86.245.254] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <0D0AC43B36166F45AEBCD54D9086F249@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [avtext] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication-01.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:29:46 -0000 This draft is pretty complete at this stage. This revision only updates the references to the mmusic drafts. Once the WG decides on the faith of the "srcname" proposal, we should be all set. Chairs,=20 I read the minutes from the last meeting. Will the "srcname" proposal move forward or will it stay on hold for the time being? -acbegen -----Original Message----- From: "internet-drafts@ietf.org" Date: Saturday, December 29, 2012 5:25 PM To: "i-d-announce@ietf.org" Cc: "avtext@ietf.org" Subject: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication-01.txt > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. > This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions >Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : Duplicating RTP Streams > Author(s) : Ali Begen > Colin Perkins > Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication-01.txt > Pages : 11 > Date : 2012-12-29 > >Abstract: > Packet loss is undesirable for real-time multimedia sessions, but can > occur due to congestion, or other unplanned network outages. This is > especially true for IP multicast networks, where packet loss patterns > can vary greatly between receivers. One technique that can be used > to recover from packet loss without incurring unbounded delay for all > the receivers is to duplicate the packets and send them in separate > redundant streams. This document explains how Real-time Transport > Protocol (RTP) streams can be duplicated without breaking RTP media > streams, or RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) rules. > > >The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication > >There's also a htmlized version available at: >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication-01 > >A diff from the previous version is available at: >http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication-01 > > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >_______________________________________________ >avtext mailing list >avtext@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avtext