From keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com Sun Mar 10 07:29:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB2121F86C9 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 07:29:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GMDfBcbkYhEx for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 07:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail6.alcatel.fr (smail6.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.42]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E1121F85DF for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 07:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.61]) by smail6.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id r2AESxBI008305 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:29:00 +0100 Received: from FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (135.239.2.111) by FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (135.120.45.61) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:28:59 +0100 Received: from FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.7.201]) by FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.239.2.111]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:28:59 +0100 From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" To: "avtext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Revision of AVTEXT agenda Thread-Index: Ac4dm5np8QgexCFPR+ix0JPQoHH2XQ== Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:28:59 +0000 Message-ID: <949EF20990823C4C85C18D59AA11AD8BEDB4@FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.41] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.84 Subject: [avtext] Revision of AVTEXT agenda X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:29:02 -0000 (As WG cochair) I have made a small revision to the AVTEXT agenda which can be found here. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/86/agenda/avtext/ The addition is to add draft-burman-rtcweb-mmusic-media-structure-00 as a relevant document to the discussion on grouping, which is joint with M= MUSIC. There is also planned to be an ad-hoc discussion of the grouping material o= n Monday in the slot 15:40 to 17:10. If you are interested in participating= in this discussion please consult with either Bo Burman, or one of the AVT= EXT chairs, and we'll let you know which room, when we find out ourselves. 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: Errors-To: mmusic-bounces@ietf.org Return-Path: mmusic-bounces@ietf.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AVStamp-Mailbox: MSFTFF;1;0;0 0 0 X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: esessmw0237.eemea.ericsson.se X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 On 2013-03-10 10:30, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) wrote: > There is also planned to be an ad-hoc discussion of the grouping > material on Monday in the slot 15:40 to 17:10. If you are interested > in participating in this discussion please consult with either Bo > Burman, or one of the AVTEXT chairs, and we'll let you know which > room, when we find out ourselves. >=20 This discussion will happen in Boca 8. 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Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:47:35 +0100 Received: from FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.7.201]) by FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.239.2.111]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:47:35 +0100 From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" To: "avtext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Slides request for Friday AVTEXT session Thread-Index: Ac4fUg8PqS0JXtigTqG04hkSSjZmxA== Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:47:35 +0000 Message-ID: <949EF20990823C4C85C18D59AA11AD8B012606@FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.41] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.84 Subject: [avtext] Slides request for Friday AVTEXT session X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:47:45 -0000 This is a request that presenters for the AVTEXT session make their slides = available Thursday a.m. so we can get them posted in advance of the session= on Friday. If for any reason you believe you are not going to make this, send us a mai= l and tell us what the problem is. Keith From jonathan@vidyo.com Thu Mar 14 11:04:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A400111E8155 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:04:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.021, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zjc-1zOLleFf for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxout.myoutlookonline.com (mxout.myoutlookonline.com [64.95.72.252]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA9C11E8129 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxout.myoutlookonline.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mxout.myoutlookonline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387C6416A40; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:10:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mail.lan Received: from HUB028.mail.lan (unknown [10.110.2.1]) by mxout.myoutlookonline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273A3416945; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BE235.mail.lan ([10.110.32.235]) by HUB028.mail.lan ([10.110.17.28]) with mapi; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:03:19 -0400 From: Jonathan Lennox To: "avtext@ietf.org" Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:03:31 -0400 Thread-Topic: Friday AVTExt meeting: volunteer notetakers Thread-Index: Ac4g3jwILGSzhfNEQw+G2DD4f5zdXg== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [avtext] Friday AVTExt meeting: volunteer notetakers X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:04:39 -0000 Hi Everyone, AVTExt's Friday morning session will be short (1:05) and tightly-packed, an= d we'll need to move on to the MMusic session expeditiously, so we'd like t= o call now for volunteer note takers and for someone to be jabber relay. We'll need two people to take notes, and one to relay questions and comment= s from remote participants in the Jabber room. You only have to volunteer for the AVTExt session, not the MMusic session. = (Though I'm sure the MMusic chairs would appreciate volunteers as well!) Please let the chairs know. -- Jonathan Lennox jonathan@vidyo.com From keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com Thu Mar 14 14:34:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCBB11E812C for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:34:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OxsVXqWqGHO9 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail2.lucent.com (ihemail2.lucent.com [135.245.0.35]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5E411E812B for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from us70tusmtp1.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (h135-5-2-63.lucent.com [135.5.2.63]) by ihemail2.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id r2ELYlqx024026 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:34:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from US70UWXCHHUB01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (us70uwxchhub01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com [135.5.2.48]) by us70tusmtp1.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id r2ELYkDh007123 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 17:34:47 -0400 Received: from FR712WXCHHUB03.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (135.239.2.74) by US70UWXCHHUB01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (135.5.2.48) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.247.3; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 17:34:46 -0400 Received: from FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.7.201]) by FR712WXCHHUB03.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.239.2.74]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:34:43 +0100 From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" To: "avtext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Slides now uploaded Thread-Index: Ac4g+7yHXf5MDSshQ4q5rtXqQRbIwg== Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:34:42 +0000 Message-ID: <949EF20990823C4C85C18D59AA11AD8B0151BF@FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.41] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.35 Subject: [avtext] Slides now uploaded X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:34:49 -0000 The slides for tomorrow's AVTEXT session are now all uploaded Regards Keith From keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com Fri Mar 15 12:27:20 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA1221F86CE; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:27:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8Cclw9dRMsOF; 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Fri, 15 Mar 2013 20:27:08 +0100 From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" To: "avtext@ietf.org" , "mmusic@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: RTP grouping taxonomy Thread-Index: Ac4hsk+S4mfi5mU7TkGQ4dtodxjawQ== Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:27:07 +0000 Message-ID: <949EF20990823C4C85C18D59AA11AD8B016A9B@FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.39] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.39 Subject: [avtext] RTP grouping taxonomy X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:27:20 -0000 (As AVTEXT cochair) In the joint session between AVTEXT and MMUSIC today we took a call in the = room with substantial consensus in the room that there should be a document= in some group in the RAI area that described the RTP grouping taxonomy.=20 The RAI ADs will decide which group this should go to and therefore which l= ist should be used for the discussion. This is a call to the membership of both the MMUSIC list and AVTEXT list to= confirm that decision. If you were in the room you do not need to reply. P= articularly if you do have objections please reply as soon as practicable a= t least to the appropriate chairs and the RAI ADs with your objections. In addition, if you want to contribute to Jonathan Lennox's document=20 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lennox-raiarea-rtp-grouping-taxonomy= /=20 directly then please do feel free to contact him for details on how to prov= ide text. There will be at least another author version of this document be= fore any call for adoption of the text. Regards Keith From eckelcu@cisco.com Mon Mar 18 12:02:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A6311E80F4; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:02:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UOmHNLiU4NBK; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com [173.37.86.79]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA5011E80F7; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:01:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1664; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1363633279; x=1364842879; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=WMlPumO9yPiaA5xywcCwEE/IvoovuY18HCpc/s9ZiUw=; b=E4D5Fbye6nItQy5ATNFzaM8KxAceL+68Tep+DUUe851ptjMqKR44GZuq G3NzEzwkeiy01Fiokjnhda4ybSiIhC2DNRme8wrHE3H5XLxEJJ5AcW9OW +QzQYf3r2+ftWEyooAwE3jUV6tNkPuOawL7uXAtDRUBN9sKrknHo7NOhR Q=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFABlkR1GtJXG//2dsb2JhbABDxR2BVhZ0giQBAQEEAQEBGh00FwQCAQgRBAEBCxQJBycLFAkIAQEEARIIiAsBDMIUBI5kOAaCWWEDp2CDCoIo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,865,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="188768634" Received: from rcdn-core2-4.cisco.com ([173.37.113.191]) by rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Mar 2013 19:01:19 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com [173.36.12.76]) by rcdn-core2-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r2IJ1JJD028774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:01:19 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x08.cisco.com ([169.254.3.144]) by xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com ([173.36.12.76]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:01:19 -0500 From: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" To: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" , "avtext@ietf.org" , "mmusic@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: RTP grouping taxonomy Thread-Index: Ac4hsk+S4mfi5mU7TkGQ4dtodxjawQCWGR5Q Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:01:18 +0000 Message-ID: <92B7E61ADAC1BB4F941F943788C08828047D7FF5@xmb-aln-x08.cisco.com> References: <949EF20990823C4C85C18D59AA11AD8B016A9B@FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com> In-Reply-To: <949EF20990823C4C85C18D59AA11AD8B016A9B@FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [171.68.16.50] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [avtext] RTP grouping taxonomy X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:02:13 -0000 I agree there is need for such a document, and I am willing to contribute t= ext and/or review it. Cheers, Charles > -----Original Message----- > From: avtext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:avtext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of DRAGE, Keith (Keith) > Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 12:27 PM > To: avtext@ietf.org; mmusic@ietf.org > Subject: [avtext] RTP grouping taxonomy >=20 > (As AVTEXT cochair) >=20 > In the joint session between AVTEXT and MMUSIC today we took a call in th= e > room with substantial consensus in the room that there should be a > document in some group in the RAI area that described the RTP grouping > taxonomy. >=20 > The RAI ADs will decide which group this should go to and therefore which > list should be used for the discussion. >=20 > This is a call to the membership of both the MMUSIC list and AVTEXT list = to > confirm that decision. If you were in the room you do not need to reply. > Particularly if you do have objections please reply as soon as practicabl= e at > least to the appropriate chairs and the RAI ADs with your objections. >=20 > In addition, if you want to contribute to Jonathan Lennox's document >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lennox-raiarea-rtp-grouping- > taxonomy/ >=20 > directly then please do feel free to contact him for details on how to pr= ovide > text. There will be at least another author version of this document befo= re > any call for adoption of the text. >=20 > Regards >=20 > Keith >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > avtext mailing list > avtext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avtext From abegen@cisco.com Tue Mar 19 07:13:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B9E21F8C82 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:13:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_15=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aJxhDLSCj5Js for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.86.76]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CE321F8C77 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:13:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=3014; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1363702390; x=1364911990; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=ylR3pPi85ulEoQFAHPUfl9nQrdrqqqrYCWy8r/GdA14=; b=EuG1TAxySeaXBuiMaJ9v2cL72Eob2TF5YqYkWkdKYWeNftQiRFchRvGB 8xrRvb1TuyeAcdvg/y1o9F0EjBDDL/YSNAYtPTkNZJNH453YVvVIKQwxh tv6Lwcdr6ce6c/9zmwpwPScTKuI3za0Nlt6n6G71hVYNtA3XrRAbakd82 M=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgMFABlySFGtJV2b/2dsb2JhbABDhDKDbbx1aG4WbQeCJgEEIxFXASICBiACBDAVEgQbE4d5AQuhDI5VgkCQIYEjjCsQf4JlMmEDl36PY4MKgXM1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,872,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="189073124" Received: from rcdn-core-4.cisco.com ([173.37.93.155]) by rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Mar 2013 14:13:10 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com [173.37.183.75]) by rcdn-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r2JED7bW020702 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:13:09 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x01.cisco.com ([fe80::747b:83e1:9755:d453]) by xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com ([173.37.183.75]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:13:08 -0500 From: "Ali C. Begen (abegen)" To: "avtext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: RTP Duplication work Thread-Index: AQHOJKvg6MNdin0xL0umtleb+sfpew== Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:12:44 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.2.130206 x-originating-ip: [10.61.103.35] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: <355C7F125DBB1348A5C67E0CCCE9B977@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [avtext] RTP Duplication work X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:13:11 -0000 QXMgeW91IG1heSBhbHJlYWR5IGtub3csIHRoZXJlIGFyZSAzIGRyYWZ0cyByZWdhcmRpbmcgdGhl IFJUUCBkdXBsaWNhdGlvbg0Kd29yay4NCg0KaHR0cHM6Ly9kYXRhdHJhY2tlci5pZXRmLm9yZy9k b2MvZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1hdnRleHQtcnRwLWR1cGxpY2F0aW9uLw0KDQpodHRwOi8vZGF0YXRyYWNr ZXIuaWV0Zi5vcmcvZG9jL2RyYWZ0LWlldGYtbW11c2ljLWR1cGxpY2F0aW9uLWdyb3VwaW5nLw0K DQpodHRwOi8vZGF0YXRyYWNrZXIuaWV0Zi5vcmcvZG9jL2RyYWZ0LWlldGYtbW11c2ljLWRlbGF5 ZWQtZHVwbGljYXRpb24vDQoNCg0KVGhlIGJvdHRvbSB0d28gKG1tdXNpYykgZHJhZnRzIHdpbGwg YmUgdXBkYXRlZCB0b2RheS90b21vcnJvdyB3aXRoIHNvbWUNCmZpeGVzIGFuZCBjbGFyaWZpY2F0 aW9ucyBiYXNlZCBvbiB0aGUgY29tbWVudHMgcmVjZWl2ZWQgaW4gdGhlIG1tdXNpYyBsaXN0Lg0K DQpUaGUgdG9wIChhdnRleHQpIGRyYWZ0IHdpbGwgYWxzbyBiZSB1cGRhdGVkIHJpZ2h0IGFmdGVy IHRoZSBtbXVzaWMNCnJldmlzaW9ucy4gQW5kIGhvcGVmdWxseSB0aGVzZSByZXZpc2lvbnMgd2ls bCBhZGRyZXNzIGFsbCB0aGUNCm9wZW4vcmVtYWluaW5nIGlzc3Vlcy4gT3VyIGdvYWwgaXMgdG8g ZmluaXNoIGFsbCB0aHJlZSBkcmFmdHMgc29vbi4NCg0KSW4gdGhpcyBlbWFpbCwgSSB3b3VsZCBs aWtlIHRvIGFzayBmb3IgaW5wdXQgZm9yIHRoZSBhdnRleHQgZG9jdW1lbnQuDQpTaW5jZSBkYXkg b25lLCBvdXIgbWFpbCBnb2FsIGhhcyBiZWVuIHRvIGRldmVsb3AgYSBzb2x1dGlvbiB0aGF0IGFk ZHJlc3NlZA0KdGhlIG1ham9yaXR5IG9mIHRoZSB1c2UgY2FzZXMgdGhhdCBhcmUgZGVwbG95ZWQg dG9kYXkuIE91ciByZXF1aXJlbWVudHMNCndlcmUgdG8gc3VwcG9ydCB0ZW1wb3JhbCBhbmQgc3Bh dGlhbCByZWR1bmRhbmN5IGZvciBSVFAgc3RyZWFtcy4gV2Ugd2FudGVkDQpib3RoIHNlc3Npb24g YW5kIHNzcmMtbGV2ZWwgZ3JvdXBpbmcgZm9yIHRoZSBvcmlnaW5hbCBhbmQgZHVwbGljYXRlDQpz dHJlYW1zLg0KMSkgV2UgdXNlZCB0aGUgYT1ncm91cCBhdHRyaWJ1dGUgd2hlbiB0aGUgb3JpZ2lu YWwgYW5kIGl0cyBkdXBsaWNhdGUgUlRQDQpzdHJlYW0ocykgd2VyZSBkZXNjcmliZWQgaW4gc2Vw YXJhdGUgbSBsaW5lcyAoYW5kIHRoZXNlIG0gbGluZXMgd291bGQgb25seQ0KY2Fycnkgb25lIFJU UCBzdHJlYW0pLg0KMikgV2UgdXNlZCB0aGUgYT1zc3JjLWdyb3VwIGF0dHJpYnV0ZSB3aGVuIHRo ZSBvcmlnaW5hbCBhbmQgaXRzIGR1cGxpY2F0ZQ0KUlRQIHN0cmVhbShzKSB3ZXJlIGFsbCBwYXJ0 IG9mIHRoZSBzYW1lIG0gbGluZSAoaW4gdGhpcyBjYXNlIHRoZXJlIGNvdWxkDQpiZSBvdGhlciBu b24tZHVwbGljYXRlIFJUUCBzdHJlYW1zIGluIHRoZSBzYW1lIG0gbGluZSkNCg0KQXQgc29tZSBw b2ludCwgd2UgYWxzbyBjb25zaWRlcmVkIGR1cGxpY2F0aW9uIGdyb3VwaW5nIGFjcm9zcyBtIGxp bmVzIHRoYXQNCmhhdmUgbXVsdGlwbGUgUlRQIHN0cmVhbXMuIEhvd2V2ZXIsIHN1cHBvcnQgZm9y IHRoaXMga2luZCBvZiBncm91cGluZyBoYXMNCm5vdCBiZWVuIGNsZWFybHkgZGVmaW5lZCBpbiBt bXVzaWMgeWV0LCBhbmQgaXQgbG9va3MgbGlrZSBpdCB3aWxsIHRha2UgYQ0Kd2hpbGUgYmVmb3Jl IGEgc29sdXRpb24gY2FuIGVtZXJnZS4NCg0KQXMgdGhlIGF1dGhvcnMsIHdlIGJlbGlldmUgdGhh dCBjb21wbGljYXRpbmcgdGhlIGltcGxlbWVudGF0aW9uIG9mIHRoZQ0KZHJhZnRzIGxpc3RlZCBh Ym92ZSB3aXRoIHNvbWV0aGluZyB0aGF0IG1heSBuZXZlciBiZSBuZWVkZWQgaW4gcHJhY3RpY2Ug aXMNCmEgYmFkIGRlc2lnbiBhbmQgc2hvdWxkIG5vdCBiZSBkb25lLiBTbywgd2Ugd291bGQgbGlr ZSB0byBwcm9jZWVkIHdpdGggdGhlDQpzdXBwb3J0IGZvciBvbmx5IHJhdGhlciBzaW1wbGUgZ3Jv dXBpbmcgbWV0aG9kcyAoYXMgZGVzY3JpYmVkIGFib3ZlKS4NCg0KUGxlYXNlIHJlc3BvbmQgdG8g dGhpcyBlbWFpbCBpZiB5b3UgZGlzYWdyZWUgd2l0aCB0aGlzIGNoYW5nZS4gQXMgdGhlcmUgaXMN CmFub3RoZXIgU0RPIHB1cnN1aW5nIGEgc2ltaWxhciB3b3JrLCB0aW1lIGlzIG9mIGVzc2VuY2Ug aGVyZSBhbmQgd2Ugd291bGQNCmxpa2UgdG8gZmluaXNoIHRoaXMgZHJhZnQgYXMgcXVpY2tseSBh cyBwb3NzaWJsZS4NCg0KVGhhbmtzLg0KLWFjYmVnZW4NCg0K From internet-drafts@ietf.org Thu Mar 21 03:28:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C94621F9023; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 03:28:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.438 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.438 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.162, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UytwVW577kIl; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 03:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C24221F883E; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 03:28:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.43 Message-ID: <20130321102809.24071.71992.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 03:28:09 -0700 Cc: avtext@ietf.org Subject: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication-02.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:28:10 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Working = Group of the IETF. Title : Duplicating RTP Streams Author(s) : Ali Begen Colin Perkins Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication-02.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2013-03-21 Abstract: Packet loss is undesirable for real-time multimedia sessions, but can occur due to congestion, or other unplanned network outages. This is especially true for IP multicast networks, where packet loss patterns can vary greatly between receivers. One technique that can be used to recover from packet loss without incurring unbounded delay for all the receivers is to duplicate the packets and send them in separate redundant streams. This document explains how Real-time Transport Protocol (RTP) streams can be duplicated without breaking RTP or RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) rules. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication-02 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From jonathan@vidyo.com Wed Mar 27 14:15:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC3021F8994 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:15:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kF7zd252ueBr for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxout.myoutlookonline.com (mxout.myoutlookonline.com [64.95.72.213]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D69F21F8895 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxout.myoutlookonline.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mxout.myoutlookonline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E054C556E4F for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:15:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mail.lan Received: from HUB028.mail.lan (unknown [10.110.2.1]) by mxout.myoutlookonline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4581855670A for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:15:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BE235.mail.lan ([10.110.32.235]) by HUB028.mail.lan ([10.110.17.28]) with mapi; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:15:20 -0400 From: Jonathan Lennox To: "avtext@ietf.org" Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:15:19 -0400 Thread-Topic: WGLC for draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-08 Thread-Index: Ac4rMC/T0V2bJ9bGQ2uaoY9QUCIt9Q== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [avtext] WGLC for draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-08 X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:15:25 -0000 (As WG cochair) This is to announce a working group last call for draft-ietf-avtext-multipl= e-clock-rates-08: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates/ Please respond to the list by April 17 2013 (i.e. 3 weeks time) with any co= mments. This is intended as a standards track RFC, updating RFC 3550. It is helpful to attempt to categorise the type of your comment (including = severity) and also to assist to provide any replacement text you feel is ne= cessary. If you review the document and have no comments, please tell the chairs tha= t you have reviewed it. This is always useful information in assessing the = degree of WG review and consensus behind the document. -- Jonathan Lennox jonathan@vidyo.com