From nobody Sat Apr 5 20:43:16 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309C21A034D for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2014 20:43:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1EZNy7QsnkON for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2014 20:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server209.appriver.com (server209c.appriver.com [8.31.233.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3801A0084 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2014 20:43:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Note-AR-ScanTimeLocal: 4/5/2014 11:43:03 PM X-Policy: GLOBAL - vidyo.com X-Primary: jonathan@vidyo.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note-SnifferID: 0 X-Note: TCH-CT/SI:0-4/SG:2 4/5/2014 11:42:05 PM X-GBUdb-Analysis: 0, 162.209.16.213, Ugly c=0.89878 p=-0.99022 Source White X-Signature-Violations: 0-0-0-1628-c X-Note-419: 0 ms. Fail:0 Chk:1342 of 1342 total X-Note: SCH-CT/SI:0-1342/SG:1 4/5/2014 11:42:45 PM X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: ->UNITED STATES->LOCAL X-Note-Sending-IP: 162.209.16.213 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: mail2.vidyo.com X-Note-Return-Path: jonathan@vidyo.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G327 G328 G329 G330 G334 G335 G445 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: VALID X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [162.209.16.213] (HELO mail.vidyo.com) by server209.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with ESMTPS id 86376653 for avtext@ietf.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2014 23:43:03 -0400 Received: from 492133-EXCH2.vidyo.com ([fe80::50:56ff:fe85:6b62]) by 492132-EXCH1.vidyo.com ([fe80::50:56ff:fe85:4f77%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Sat, 5 Apr 2014 22:43:02 -0500 From: Jonathan Lennox To: "avtext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Draft AVTEXT Meeting Minutes from IETF 89, London Thread-Index: AQHPUUpP6RpcYwlTNkeNGWi2Hhh5yg== Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2014 03:43:01 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [76.116.130.167] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/avtext/U55PfhnKhCq2Gl_5sPhGA6Qlsng Subject: [avtext] Draft AVTEXT Meeting Minutes from IETF 89, London X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2014 03:43:14 -0000 Hello, all =97 We have uploaded the draft meeting minutes for the AVTEXT session at IETF 8= 9 in London at: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/minutes/minutes-89-avtext Please take a look and let us know if you have any questions, comments, or = corrections. From nobody Mon Apr 14 11:05:28 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D421A06BC; Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:05:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.174 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.174 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.272, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eh3FffNvJDgi; Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::31]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC961A06AC; Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id CF8CC18000D; Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:04:58 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 6000:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20140414180458.CF8CC18000D@rfc-editor.org> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/avtext/vBJLu_a3ysmfB655uCYwvLBTkoY Cc: drafts-update-ref@iana.org, avtext@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [avtext] RFC 7160 on Support for Multiple Clock Rates in an RTP Session X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 18:05:26 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 7160 Title: Support for Multiple Clock Rates in an RTP Session Author: M. Petit-Huguenin, G. Zorn, Ed. Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: April 2014 Mailbox: petithug@acm.org, glenzorn@gmail.com Pages: 13 Characters: 25255 Updates: RFC 3550 I-D Tag: draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-11.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7160.txt This document clarifies the RTP specification regarding the use of different clock rates in an RTP session. It also provides guidance on how legacy RTP implementations that use multiple clock rates can interoperate with RTP implementations that use the algorithm described in this document. It updates RFC 3550. This document is a product of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the Internet community,and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From nobody Tue Apr 22 13:45:04 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FEB1A003D for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 13:44:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N_XVQKBB7Oca for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 13:44:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944C51A0226 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 13:44:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: avtext@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.3.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140422204417.12222.75109.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 13:44:17 -0700 From: IETF Secretariat Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/avtext/WByaN0nZ0xFyu1MsddjJhm6ao-0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 13:45:02 -0700 Subject: [avtext] Milestones changed for avtext WG X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 20:44:27 -0000 Changed milestone "Submit Mechanism for RTP Stream Pause & Resume for Proposed Standard", set state to active from review, accepting new milestone. URL: http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/avtext/charter/ From nobody Tue Apr 22 16:11:00 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C52F1A0039 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:10:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.569 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.569 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.77, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2MU-aamjFpVy for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server209.appriver.com (server209e.appriver.com [8.31.233.120]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8B51A0296 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:10:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Note-AR-ScanTimeLocal: 4/22/2014 7:10:48 PM X-Policy: GLOBAL - vidyo.com X-Primary: jonathan@vidyo.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note-SnifferID: 0 X-Note: TCH-CT/SI:0-20/SG:2 4/22/2014 7:10:38 PM X-GBUdb-Analysis: 0, 162.209.16.213, Ugly c=1 p=-0.996159 Source White X-Signature-Violations: 0-0-0-2316-c X-Note-419: 15.6006 ms. Fail:0 Chk:1342 of 1342 total X-Note: SCH-CT/SI:0-1342/SG:1 4/22/2014 7:10:36 PM X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: ->UNITED STATES-> X-Note-Sending-IP: 162.209.16.213 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: mail2.vidyo.com X-Note-Return-Path: jonathan@vidyo.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G327 G328 G329 G330 G334 G335 G445 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: VALID X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [162.209.16.213] (HELO mail.vidyo.com) by server209.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.2) with ESMTPS id 117289579 for avtext@ietf.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:10:48 -0400 Received: from 492133-EXCH2.vidyo.com ([fe80::50:56ff:fe85:6b62]) by 492132-EXCH1.vidyo.com ([fe80::50:56ff:fe85:4f77%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:47 -0500 From: Jonathan Lennox To: "avtext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Call for confirmation of consensus: WG adoption of draft-westerlund-avtext-rtp-stream-pause Thread-Index: AQHPXoAYWtqXwZQVXECGHOpIVJEPBg== Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 23:10:47 +0000 Message-ID: <957D42D5-894D-4A35-88E8-320C890E65F9@vidyo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [160.79.219.114] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <050D6E1FA3127A47BBFFAA10E124D089@vidyo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/avtext/1Khc_mXwhypJnnM4jSM7AQDHkew Subject: [avtext] Call for confirmation of consensus: WG adoption of draft-westerlund-avtext-rtp-stream-pause X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 23:10:56 -0000 Hi, all =97 AVTExt's milestone for RTP Pause & Resume has been approved. In the WG session in London, we had consensus that the group would adopt dr= aft-westerlund-avtext-rtp-stream-pause-05 as the basis of an initial Workin= g Group draft towards this milestone. I would like to put out a two-week call for confirmation of this consensus.= If you didn=92t provide input at the meeting at London =97 or if your opi= nion has changed =97 please provide your support or objection to the adopti= on of this draft, for this milestone, no later than May 6th. Thank you! Jonathan From nobody Tue Apr 22 19:54:55 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2481A02C6 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:54:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.816 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.816 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, CN_BODY_35=0.339, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.272, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l3bPbzAOzblY for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B451D1A000C for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BFZ05795; 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From nobody Fri Apr 25 11:42:26 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016CF1A06AE; Fri, 25 Apr 2014 11:42:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.174 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.174 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.272, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CCpvRsJf0r4U; Fri, 25 Apr 2014 11:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::31]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF35D1A06A9; Fri, 25 Apr 2014 11:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 0BBDB1801FF; Fri, 25 Apr 2014 11:41:12 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 6000:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20140425184112.0BBDB1801FF@rfc-editor.org> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 11:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/avtext/EYnWMjxOLqCIPpQAz8aMwoQmV3o Cc: drafts-update-ref@iana.org, avtext@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [avtext] RFC 7198 on Duplicating RTP Streams X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 18:42:18 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 7198 Title: Duplicating RTP Streams Author: A. Begen, C. Perkins Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: April 2014 Mailbox: abegen@cisco.com, csp@csperkins.org Pages: 13 Characters: 29317 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication-06.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7198.txt Packet loss is undesirable for real-time multimedia sessions but can occur due to a variety of reasons including unplanned network outages. In unicast transmissions, recovering from such an outage can be difficult depending on the outage duration, due to the potentially large number of missing packets. In multicast transmissions, recovery is even more challenging as many receivers could be impacted by the outage. For this challenge, one solution that does not incur unbounded delay is to duplicate the packets and send them in separate redundant streams, provided that the underlying network satisfies certain requirements. This document explains how Real-time Transport Protocol (RTP) streams can be duplicated without breaking RTP or RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) rules. This document is a product of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the Internet community,and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Internet Official Protocol Standards (STD 1) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From nobody Tue Apr 29 06:27:03 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE35F1A08DD for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 06:27:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UBiPQtTDImxa for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 06:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sessmg22.ericsson.net (sessmg22.ericsson.net [193.180.251.58]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6D91A08D5 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 06:26:58 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3a-f79106d0000013ca-f9-535fa8a02154 Received: from ESESSHC005.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by sessmg22.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 4B.A8.05066.0A8AF535; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 15:26:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSMB105.ericsson.se ([169.254.5.216]) by ESESSHC005.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.33]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 15:26:55 +0200 From: Bo Burman To: "avtext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Proposed RTP Taxonomy updates Thread-Index: Ac9eyJwZU1yGeu96Tu+aOoOxWGE6dg== Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 13:26:55 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: sv-SE, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.17] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_BBE9739C2C302046BD34B42713A1E2A22E1E0C78ESESSMB105erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrGLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvje6CFfHBBudnKFh8vHeD1YHRY8mS n0wBjFFcNimpOZllqUX6dglcGasmP2EumB1S0Xd+HksD40vPLkZODgkBE4l3CzvZIGwxiQv3 1gPZXBxCAkcZJT782scI4SxhlNj17zEzSBWbgIbE/B13GUFsEQF1iTvTL4B1CwuoSRxZu4gd Iq4tcWvrS5YuRg4gW09iW0suSJhFQFXiyak/TCA2r4CvRPPyRlYQm1FAVuL+93ssIDazgLjE rSfzmSAOEpBYsuc8M4QtKvHy8T9WkJESAooSy/vlIMrzJd4s2Ao1UlDi5MwnLBMYhWYhmTQL SdksJGUQcR2JBbs/sUHY2hLLFr5mhrHPHHjMhCy+gJF9FaNocWpxcW66kZFealFmcnFxfp5e XmrJJkZgRBzc8ttqB+PB546HGAU4GJV4eIu/RAYLsSaWFVfmHmKU5mBREuedtMg9WEggPbEk NTs1tSC1KL6oNCe1+BAjEwenVAOjgHt+1AcR9ofzNv60vRDoypfqxp52X9a19uJc0YYax6Pz 9t36vbApLz2ylW+zzheXsherXB4f6My5aM5asjWKLzd7jkLJlzi22xEXz3bemR48V4VN32aC XvHXtxMidvrpHTZ/0SM512hFeffepe+ObGJVSkxfpvpC+5mf5r/0fWx5TGflTJcosRRnJBpq MRcVJwIAJESha2kCAAA= Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/avtext/pc7T83fhjZyVEbEskoGRNC4HUXM Subject: [avtext] Proposed RTP Taxonomy updates X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 13:27:00 -0000 --_000_BBE9739C2C302046BD34B42713A1E2A22E1E0C78ESESSMB105erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Based on the AVTEXT session at IETF 88 & 89 and some mailing list discussio= ns, I propose to make the following updates to RTP Taxonomy: * In 3.2.1 clearly define what RFC 6190 terms "SST" and "MST" means= in Taxonomy terms and remove the current discussion on Single- and Multi-S= tream. * Mention in 2.2.1 under Alternate usages that an "End Point" in Ta= xonomy terms is typically a single "host" (although "host" has no unique de= finition). * Change the term "Packet Stream" throughout the document, since it= is arguably too generic: o "RTP Packet Stream" was suggested by Magnus W about a month ago and rec= eived some support. I think it is a bit long and unnecessarily redundant, s= ince RTP already implies that it is a packet o "RTP Stream" could possibly be a sufficiently precise term; what do ot= hers think? * Re-structure the document such that Alternate usages (describing = existing terms in Taxonomy wording) are separated out into their own sub-se= ctions, making it possible to find them through the table of contents o I believe this could take care of Roni Even's request at IETF 88 for an= overview table with existing terms, while avoiding the fact that the neede= d explanations will hardly fit in a table format. * Editorial: o Remove formal numberings of level 4 headings (change to body text or he= adings in body text format). Comments are welcome! Cheers, Bo --_000_BBE9739C2C302046BD34B42713A1E2A22E1E0C78ESESSMB105erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

 

Based on the AVTEXT session at IETF 88 & 89 and = some mailing list discussions, I propose to make the following updates to R= TP Taxonomy:

·         In 3.2.1 clearly define what RFC 6190 terms = “SST” and “MST” means in Taxonomy terms and remove = the current discussion on Single- and Multi-Stream.

·         Mention in 2.2.1 under Alternate usages that= an “End Point” in Taxonomy terms is typically a single “= host” (although “host” has no unique definition).

·         Change the term “Packet Stream” = throughout the document, since it is arguably too generic:

o   “RTP Packet Stream” was suggeste= d by Magnus W about a month ago and received some support. I think it is a = bit long and unnecessarily redundant, since RTP already implies that it is = a packet

o    “RTP Stream” could possibl= y be a sufficiently precise term; what do others think?

·         Re-structure the document such that Alternat= e usages (describing existing terms in Taxonomy wording) are separated out = into their own sub-sections, making it possible to find them through the ta= ble of contents

o   I believe this could take care of Roni Even&= #8217;s request at IETF 88 for an overview table with existing terms, while= avoiding the fact that the needed explanations will hardly fit in a table = format.

·         Editorial:

o   Remove formal numberings of level 4 headings= (change to body text or headings in body text format).

 

Comments are welcome!

 

Cheers,

Bo

 

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<5361B80A.8090200@nteczone.com> Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 12:57:14 +1000 From: Christian Groves User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: avtext@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cserver5.myshophosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - nteczone.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cserver5.myshophosting.com: authenticated_id: christian.groves@nteczone.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/avtext/dfqkxSAexBjzwXqNOTXBlPl-SMs Subject: Re: [avtext] Proposed RTP Taxonomy updates X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 02:57:29 -0000 Hello Bo, In London it was mentioned that there was a relationship with CLUE and XCON on how some of the taxonomy was used. In cl.2.2.3 of the draft there is a definition for the term "participant". In the XCON data model cl.4.6.5/[RFC6501] it uses the term "user" to describe the concept outlined in the draft definition. RFC4575 also uses the term "user" for this. IT might be good to mention this alternate term. Regards, Christian On 29/04/2014 11:26 PM, Bo Burman wrote: > > Hi all, > > Based on the AVTEXT session at IETF 88 & 89 and some mailing list > discussions, I propose to make the following updates to RTP Taxonomy: > > ·In 3.2.1 clearly define what RFC 6190 terms “SST” and “MST” means in > Taxonomy terms and remove the current discussion on Single- and > Multi-Stream. > > ·Mention in 2.2.1 under Alternate usages that an “End Point” in > Taxonomy terms is typically a single “host” (although “host” has no > unique definition). > > ·Change the term “Packet Stream” throughout the document, since it is > arguably too generic: > > o“RTP Packet Stream” was suggested by Magnus W about a month ago and > received some support. I think it is a bit long and unnecessarily > redundant, since RTP already implies that it is a packet > > o“RTP Stream” could possibly be a sufficiently precise term; what do > others think? > > ·Re-structure the document such that Alternate usages (describing > existing terms in Taxonomy wording) are separated out into their own > sub-sections, making it possible to find them through the table of > contents > > oI believe this could take care of Roni Even’s request at IETF 88 for > an overview table with existing terms, while avoiding the fact that > the needed explanations will hardly fit in a table format. > > ·Editorial: > > oRemove formal numberings of level 4 headings (change to body text or > headings in body text format). > > Comments are welcome! > > Cheers, > > Bo > > > > _______________________________________________ > avtext mailing list > avtext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avtext