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[Adding routing-discussion, other IGP-focused WGs and rtg-dir, please feel
free to forward.]


Hi!

As we move these efforts forward, we have now created two new mailing lists=
:

Routing In Fat Trees (rift): https://www.ietf.org/mailman/admin/rift
Link State Vector Routing (lsvr): https://www.ietf.org/mailman/admin/lsvr

If you are interested in either effort (or both!), please subscribe!!

The next step is to discuss and agree on a suitable charter for each of the
proposed WGs =E2=80=94 I have asked the proponents to start a discussion on=
 the
respective lists in the next few days.  The goal is to take the Charters to
the IESG and have them approved significantly in advance of IETF 101.

As a reminder, the focus of these efforts (resulting from the dcrouting
BOF) is on new solutions: ones that require a standalone effort (WG) =E2=80=
=93 It
is not expected that work/discussions on related incremental enhancements
in an existing WG be delayed or deferred.

Thanks!

Alvaro.


On November 23, 2017 at 4:17:26 AM, Alvaro Retana (aretana.ietf@gmail.com)
wrote:

Hi!

Thank you to everyone who participated in last week=E2=80=99s BOF!!

After comparing notes with the BOF Chairs and my co-ADs, we believe there
is good interest to start working on proposed charters for both RIFT and
BGP-LS SPF.  I will be working with the proponents on that in the next few
weeks =E2=80=94 the current plan is for me to be the Responsible AD for bot=
h of
these efforts.

Please stay tuned to this mailing list for further announcements on mailing
lists and other details as we iron them out.

Thanks!!

Alvaro.

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The next step is to discuss and agree on a suitable charter for
each of the proposed WGs =E2=80=94 I have asked the proponents to start a
discussion on the respective lists in the next few days.=C2=A0 The
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focus of these efforts (resulting from the dcrouting BOF) is on new
solutions: ones that require a standalone effort (WG) =E2=80=93 It is not
expected that work/discussions on related incremental enhancements
in an existing WG be delayed or deferred.</div>
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<div><span>Hi!</span>
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<div><span>Thank you to everyone who participated in last week=E2=80=99s
BOF!!</span></div>
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<div><span>After comparing notes with the BOF Chairs and my co-ADs,
we believe there is good interest to start working on proposed
charters for both RIFT and BGP-LS SPF.=C2=A0 I will be working with
the proponents on that in the next few weeks =E2=80=94 the current plan is
for me to be the Responsible AD for both of these
efforts.</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div>
<div><span>Please stay tuned to this mailing list for further
announcements on mailing lists and other details as we iron them
out.</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div>
<div><span>Thanks!!</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div>
<div><span>Alvaro.<br>
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Sorry, here are the right links:

rift: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rift
lsvr: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsvr

Thanks to the eager people already subscribing for pointing this out!

Alvaro.

On December 13, 2017 at 10:28:13 AM, Alvaro Retana (aretana.ietf@gmail.com)
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Routing In Fat Trees (rift): https://www.ietf.org/mailman/admin/rift
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font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">Alvaro.</=
div> <br><p class=3D"airmail_on">On December 13, 2017 at 10:28:13 AM, Alvar=
o Retana (<a href=3D"mailto:aretana.ietf@gmail.com">aretana.ietf@gmail.com<=
/a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"clean_bq"><span><div><di=
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font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px">Routing In Fat Trees=
 (rift):=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/admin/rift">https://w=
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ansform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-family:Helvetica,Aria=
l;font-size:13px;margin:0px">Link State Vector Routing (lsvr):=C2=A0<a href=
=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/admin/lsvr">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/a=
dmin/lsvr</a>=C2=A0</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></sp=
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Hi everyone

Just as an FYI:

The recently released version 2.0 of the Bird routing daemon[1] features
an updated Babel implementation that is compatible with rfc6126bis.
I.e., it understands mandatory bits in sub-TLVs and will discard the
containing TLV. It also drops Hello TLVs with the unicast flag set. This
version of Bird also contains integrated v4/v6 support, making it
possible to carry both types of routes over the same Babel instance like
with babeld.

No extensions are implemented yet, nor will it send or in any other way
respond to unicast Hellos. Those features are still on the TODO list :)

All due credit to the Bird developers for getting 2.0 out the door, and
for fixing a number of bugs in the Babel implementation along the way!

-Toke

[1] http://trubka.network.cz/pipermail/bird-users/2017-December/011672.html


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> The recently released version 2.0 of the Bird routing daemon[1] features
> an updated Babel implementation that is compatible with rfc6126bis.

That's excellent news, Toke.

I'll try to find the time to merge the rfc6126bis branch into babeld
mainline over the holidays, and do some interop testing.

-- Juliusz

