From nobody Wed Mar 1 09:57:38 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bier@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bier@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00B9129632 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 09:57:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=venaas-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KrhuxSGNlxEV for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 09:57:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-x235.google.com (mail-yw0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E1C7129621 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 09:57:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-yw0-x235.google.com with SMTP id s15so15993036ywg.0 for ; Wed, 01 Mar 2017 09:57:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=venaas-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RoiNXXMPZ2Vvt3jzP2htdQoMTxVb+Nqb0x+5BurVkag=; b=KUzzbda8dkKQx1tQMb9tteaZ4Yryl9q5/Q5gprAQHcFRxWNGPcvrFg6z6BKf2ImDeM reXol4HOHdIaihoykIGrWUM3TWV+yQWor5azV5kgCYE9BGmeB7yDHteaEBKRYbSXnHY3 GtsehkMrObvWJB9EsbmykraC1G9We1dmIuanICNqQw3fEpgEghgBPQaKPP+D0XCxDSLk NqCEUSFptEQbzYJCJJG33hhliiyd1JHBVRf2QFdlNF1thHHUe7qyiGguozJ3Ukbwj7fV dYnYtf5wY8DHV8Qn14ghkmtMTedsx/pSA8PqGyAhCeY8U6CaJ/PKE2je/Td4UubOA4eI Vw+w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RoiNXXMPZ2Vvt3jzP2htdQoMTxVb+Nqb0x+5BurVkag=; b=c7aK90W+CCO8wH9zKgB7HCtLsR3Ru3ZicCRvPxptp16xzxSGJi1OkoG1FylGCvYRlO rXV+GtG3G3suXDAsAwAxMABK6uBQ6562R2d1Yd1lAxIPDT4M3cPIYseNgQaTxz2fj593 fkMxWZtRM8AqoWADb1+RXhnEHRS00LJvGhpcfQQvU/I2v1V9+lEOlm+4WYTEXxgxkore 90H1uoM95gvgyAbtlxjD2BqgWTGK9HkLuKK7MUCvT+fbhL7/Qi46eR6pwyPVyaSI/L1O 1Ls0r4Yc1IeMpY3fQb+zZ2yXnOwi9IEaP1dAsZ0neX7DikAU1+AKH6U0A+qx65XP9WA/ /Xlg== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39mhrCEujmcVyuaVl6Y3y/LJ9kwPDq204BM5V5FblvCa7babaiKJj69/GWf0+t23/QPGWfkpr+o9MJIryw== X-Received: by 10.200.53.237 with SMTP id l42mr11376372qtb.264.1488391054304; Wed, 01 Mar 2017 09:57:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.81.166 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 09:57:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2E4BB27CAB87BF43B4207C0E55860F180EAFE8BA@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> References: <2E4BB27CAB87BF43B4207C0E55860F180EAFE8BA@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> From: Stig Venaas Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 09:57:33 -0800 Message-ID: To: Antoni Przygienda Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Cc: "bier@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Bier] comments on draft-pfister-bier-mld-00 X-BeenThere: bier@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "\"Bit Indexed Explicit Replication discussion list\"" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2017 17:57:37 -0000 Hi Sorry for not seeing this earlier. Depending on the implementation, it may be easier to implement if the host stack on the router listens to the multicast group that the IGMP packet is sent to. I think one easy option to just use the regular IGMP/MLD group. This requires the least change in implementations. Stig On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 4:56 AM, Antoni Przygienda wrote: > Only one suggestion, I think the =E2=80=98MUST be configured with all =E2= =80=98BMLD =E2=80=A6 nodes=E2=80=99 > is maybe unnecessarily restrictive, a SHOULD would serve the purpose with > =E2=80=9Cotherwise, set all the bits in the sub-domain and send BIER pack= et that > way=E2=80=9D. > > > > I would assume that the amount of query/reports is neglectible compared t= o > the flows themselves and such =E2=80=98broadcast option=E2=80=99 could ma= ke deployments > easier. > > > > thanks > > > > --- tony > > > > =E2=80=9CYour work is to discover your work and then with all your heart = to give > yourself to it.=E2=80=9D --- Buddha > > > > > _______________________________________________ > BIER mailing list > BIER@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier > From nobody Fri Mar 3 15:55:19 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bier@ietf.org Delivered-To: bier@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80912126D73; Fri, 3 Mar 2017 15:55:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.46.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <148858531852.15846.7859955929161709068.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2017 15:55:18 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: bier@ietf.org Subject: [Bier] bier - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 98 X-BeenThere: bier@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: "\"Bit Indexed Explicit Replication discussion list\"" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2017 23:55:18 -0000 Dear Tony Przygienda, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. bier Session 1 (2:00:00) Monday, Afternoon Session I 1300-1500 Room Name: Zurich B size: 100 --------------------------------------------- Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Bit Indexed Explicit Replication Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Tony Przygienda Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 50 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: isis idr pim rtgwg bess Second Priority: detnet homenet grow ospf sfc spring People who must be present: Tony Przygienda Greg Shepherd Alia Atlas Resources Requested: Meetecho support in room Special Requests: Need to sanity check the conflicts with the chairs... --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Mon Mar 6 10:29:53 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bier@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bier@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78142129498; Mon, 6 Mar 2017 10:29:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SRN-ZKWgR6Xq; Mon, 6 Mar 2017 10:29:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oi0-x235.google.com (mail-oi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AEDF12995D; Mon, 6 Mar 2017 10:29:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi0-x235.google.com with SMTP id 2so89628524oif.0; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 10:29:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=vsGnKC/iXgXz08laemufrMLa5xNVgfR87xC9PiWOu1E=; b=YqBNkBS/4V/16APYliUYJzKTb73eqQDcG3R2WfyJNNHcTi6QIqjTmL97yTlNUqcxFJ JkurHs1L+D5ifHYpt/Sg8WeFsw9YhxGLJhBJKPdIuOg1kpbb9X/SOULCVNKHt+/f32pC h/qrUjZi2e5w/P0I4Axgw1yFhYVmfo7GkwJtFFya+zFRRpFE3mc2sJVGJ2v2tWYxtDnp QaIjPyRQG5CDR62kMq52iRywIV/CvZ1GKErjAFjGj7Ut9JwDKiTHxgCYWJmYH3EWyYsn P3L8xvxjNtjDgmfc5kmiTRke5LlDW8VfaTQF9lMS++HaIm/F9znLd8i2Tt80zQxKz6j3 IuNQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=vsGnKC/iXgXz08laemufrMLa5xNVgfR87xC9PiWOu1E=; b=ZKXlKzKyCuV6uNjLQHTdJFLfeeA3wjkKcndS7x4xbG14rCyZXlUC9yT01WvWTQPeCF UXOTW0OKLhgnsmW7/Bk/+otljEPCzL1OsLZvZuN88f0CqYuGKkViMwLlFAR9jxJgHoBM nVv6EMG+FsLDeoaJ06GI62l1KREUanRqCgH4bIC7Vf5fsa7DGdrh2iFohdWaVSHckyWH QPB1OzLhPKFqe69cm2cAq61pTNzg4T6Qe+Iuc96RZZQlPVEoPPubjuEzcM+0NlBqHfkz e0szzdrRg9tKViEUR4AbAXj6fJNozmM8hoG9+2s4RiGL+3BkfuoiMJwrmq3qu+7zYDH0 9wEA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39l4M7Z2CDANBb88apGs9MDN2af6NT+6071FQgr9FsD3yAbHYoyWMNW4lvGCMhlSKkp07VBK80+OnlyrUg== X-Received: by 10.202.181.135 with SMTP id e129mr9359401oif.124.1488824989367; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 10:29:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.21.21 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Mar 2017 10:29:48 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Mirsky Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 10:29:48 -0800 Message-ID: To: bier-chairs@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113cbe4c9fc79a054a1414d5 Archived-At: Cc: bier@ietf.org Subject: [Bier] Presentation slot at BIER WG meeting in Chicago X-BeenThere: bier@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "\"Bit Indexed Explicit Replication discussion list\"" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 18:29:51 -0000 --001a113cbe4c9fc79a054a1414d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Dear Greg and Toni, would appreciate opportunity to give an update on two drafts that we've working on in NVO3 WG: - OAM Header for Overlay Networks - Echo Request and Echo Reply for Overlay Networks I'll be the presenter and 15-20 min for both will be great for quick presentation and Q&A. I'll send the slides before the meeting. Regards, Greg --001a113cbe4c9fc79a054a1414d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Greg and Toni,
would appreciate opportunity to gi= ve an update on two drafts that we've working on in NVO3 WG:
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  • OAM Header for Overlay Networks
  • Echo Request and Echo Reply= for Overlay Networks
I'll be the presenter and 15-20 min= for both will be great for quick presentation and Q&A. I'll send t= he slides before the meeting.

Regards,
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Greg
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--f4030435c23413e0f3054a4da0b9-- From nobody Thu Mar 9 07:11:36 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bier@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bier@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A850512945C; Thu, 9 Mar 2017 07:11:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e5-hyi-DmBde; Thu, 9 Mar 2017 07:11:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qk0-x241.google.com (mail-qk0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40EA4129671; Thu, 9 Mar 2017 07:11:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qk0-x241.google.com with SMTP id j127so20314357qke.0; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 07:11:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=c5PtisLZPVPB811/9nO/MsU2mdz5pZNB+nJULAF6btA=; b=hdduyIMpcsBPJdu/ucTVSSEV8DLO5xbuXBOzDrQ0s0QubvQ09bEadaeS0uOzAFk376 41QmBX9h91DjyYM6IkvBiDEc+rli/RrmK032J0np5V+qzJIr9k5NTAQT4xNntbuMmi0Z fvd+tEBge2ONzTODmodWIn3SRMrbsh4Q/gTbzEI80ehDSmk4PiXOunPLL5jsiIVhojN0 KntFFn+hO9OsqeBPJV+eKTDaCSm6A+WHz0URBalCgTt9gPOdrKANF0r2Z4W37I6LI7Zv k+2zdWpSuj+5U2OOszg3b3pjiobZyYnEFEf6NB72hWsxrgMxki09xAlCaj6RiksRdqsF J+OA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=c5PtisLZPVPB811/9nO/MsU2mdz5pZNB+nJULAF6btA=; b=FEocu/86UK9Rw9BHGZm8lP+6vWokk9z/C29fuVeOWp80DVv80XWgKcm3QtTO5HSVcm d0JkMukABuuJxd0+vI9da/yM+SX8Li4QpQzs1s5868dX3uNjeAnKU67DZetp9P1cxWCD JlWiJ3l6/ZLt49fRVwJhYHbMJgcQ8R2cCg2HMnh/dvEDjjbYX1lJ+jw2BupbzH7gnyML ft4sPCZ+ENbmeCu2oQoXtO7kRuamKQSQgH8sVRM7fvLXdTN29YrWHQIDxWSmWPIa5K7Q K/T7kU9PKBygYBupPfg5oQng5zAcV1JocxSM6CT4FDOg+J/kDVAYC16bM8/Kfa8uj2AR F/mQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39n/g42HR5cBsxBWvy0ty1mYcBKXdiEnLdHuurYSFSgUaLHwabyPlovw0/V7LyaNRfICgH3qlpeuEOc7rw== X-Received: by 10.200.2.150 with SMTP id p22mr15474675qtg.197.1489072293226; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 07:11:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.42.69 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Mar 2017 07:11:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Greg Shepherd Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 07:11:32 -0800 Message-ID: To: Greg Mirsky Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f4030435c234152f2f054a4da939 Archived-At: Cc: "bier@ietf.org" , bier-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Bier] Presentation slot at BIER WG meeting in Chicago X-BeenThere: bier@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: gjshep@gmail.com List-Id: "\"Bit Indexed Explicit Replication discussion list\"" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2017 15:11:36 -0000 --f4030435c234152f2f054a4da939 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thanks Greg. Please send your slides the week before IETF. Our slot is Monday. Cheers, Greg On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Greg Mirsky wrote: > Dear Greg and Toni, > would appreciate opportunity to give an update on two drafts that we've > working on in NVO3 WG: > > - OAM Header for Overlay Networks > - Echo Request and Echo Reply for Overlay Networks > > I'll be the presenter and 15-20 min for both will be great for quick > presentation and Q&A. I'll send the slides before the meeting. > > Regards, > Greg > --f4030435c234152f2f054a4da939 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Greg.=C2=A0

Please send your sli= des the week before IETF. Our slot is Monday.

Chee= rs,
Greg

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky= @gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Greg and Toni,
would appreciate opportunity to give an up= date on two drafts that we've working on in NVO3 WG:
  • = OAM Header for Overlay Networks
  • Echo Request and Echo Reply for Ove= rlay Networks
I'll be the presenter and 15-20 min for bot= h will be great for quick presentation and Q&A. I'll send the slide= s before the meeting.

Regards,
Gre= g

--f4030435c234152f2f054a4da939-- From nobody Mon Mar 13 11:55:23 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bier@ietf.org Delivered-To: bier@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B0D129A5D; Mon, 13 Mar 2017 11:55:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.47.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <148943132212.20417.7322678583592416593@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 11:55:22 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: bier@ietf.org Subject: [Bier] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bier-ospf-bier-extensions-05.txt X-BeenThere: bier@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: "\"Bit Indexed Explicit Replication discussion list\"" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 18:55:22 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Bit Indexed Explicit Replication of the IETF. Title : OSPF Extensions for BIER Authors : Peter Psenak Nagendra Kumar IJsbrand Wijnands Andrew Dolganow Tony Przygienda Jeffrey Zhang Sam Aldrin Filename : draft-ietf-bier-ospf-bier-extensions-05.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2017-03-13 Abstract: Bit Index Explicit Replication (BIER) is an architecture that provides multicast forwarding through a "BIER domain" without requiring intermediate routers to maintain multicast related per-flow state. Neither does BIER require an explicit tree-building protocol for its operation. A multicast data packet enters a BIER domain at a "Bit-Forwarding Ingress Router" (BFIR), and leaves the BIER domain at one or more "Bit-Forwarding Egress Routers" (BFERs). The BFIR router adds a BIER header to the packet. Such header contains a bit-string in which each bit represents exactly one BFER to forward the packet to. The set of BFERs to which the multicast packet needs to be forwarded is expressed by the according set of bits switched on in BIER packet header. This document describes the OSPF protocol extension required for BIER with MPLS encapsulation. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bier-ospf-bier-extensions/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bier-ospf-bier-extensions-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bier-ospf-bier-extensions-05 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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The registration policy for that registry is "IETF Review". Per RFC 7120, codepoints in that Registry are eligible for early allocation by IANA. I would like to request that the WG chairs initiate the process (as specified in RFC 7120) to get an early allocation for this codepoint. Thanks. 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BIER Sub-TLV: TBD BIER MPLS Encapsulation Sub-TLV: TBD BIER Tree Type Sub-TLV: TBD ietf-ospf-prefix-link-attr is now RFC 7684, and has the following: The "OSPFv2 Extended Prefix TLV Sub-TLVs" registry defines sub-TLVs at any level of nesting for OSPFv2 Extended Prefix TLVs and has been added to the "Open Shortest Path First v2 (OSPFv2) Parameters" registry. New values can be allocated via IETF Review or IESG Approval. Per RFC 7120, codepoints in that Registry are eligible for early=20 allocation by IANA. I would like to request that the WG chairs initiate the process to get an e= arly allocation for these codepoints. Thanks. Jeffrey From nobody Fri Mar 24 13:13:02 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bier@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bier@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11891298C8; Fri, 24 Mar 2017 13:12:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UwjFMdjVuQRB; Fri, 24 Mar 2017 13:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wr0-x22d.google.com (mail-wr0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 135C8129882; Fri, 24 Mar 2017 13:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id u1so434117wra.2; Fri, 24 Mar 2017 13:12:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=f09OQGZQnql+rabPudlsHtLKL2sOjLq9ZwDrTkrHKhs=; b=C9cqUri4HmHhv35Z/Zd/fgIAFb4CR16HM2DlBfNvKNZ6iRtad7lkphZu8law1ZB1Xi iyzTJ1fXXAvn5eHd7fz7+owyU+wMDexWLAx5mSPVVHa2YgrsZZDq3hYVru/jkSitf8pv Y/TCHmkK7UjYMJ20S59OLRt6ST9WfaQCna33ghU3BDgynL2JLVwJ4kcqAjAz81i++dac VAo3WoxOF4rx7gJXDaz5SM9m7GvnhV1wZgqecR9/Vp1atgKdTn0w2ydPxYG07AEIbgMk Qjo9mEzjhtHdnzcmf0U7yq0IjpGYM0FAr3B78qANjhezdSbEka5lt5CDJW5mYjPFCxue Hhlg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=f09OQGZQnql+rabPudlsHtLKL2sOjLq9ZwDrTkrHKhs=; b=a12Poc8CSjkf6w0WowTe61HxLhkue0AkqR19o4LMM/Ppk8ssOYOiSUtHFBb+/mnMVL ELggJFsFZxVaZj0pzlD80SXjfsxysA/UUuigsuD/Ef0SYtgOtZ/cW8e+WePonqMPk1KN 59/xrs7pWv8+He5gzoJbxuKSyPgQ8fgrUApQoEUbvtWjre4OJeRqeK+jTe6XkUIVxr5O tOSb8Kmy38+0PjbCiVAnNUuyYFGuvYbjOdZ6+xWEUW1x0SXVFonIocQcM+1s6kUlogAu 6FeZ33dO7V7L/DEcy4rKvM+19/7UFXTIHmD1r1sBKjkcYzOG2EgAMLGgPon0K4za+0wE 7RMw== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H26cvM7M1PguzYXoYE2v3LEC4BC/4C3c6N852FLtbJbrDvNMz+7BkyFPf/q34vdJapvm5wydgmptxZslw== X-Received: by 10.223.153.228 with SMTP id y91mr9200601wrb.81.1490386371601; Fri, 24 Mar 2017 13:12:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.169.132 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Mar 2017 13:12:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Tony Przygienda Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 13:12:11 -0700 Message-ID: To: "Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang" Cc: Antoni Przygienda , "Greg Shepherd (shep)" , "bier@ietf.org" , "isis-wg@ietf.org list" , ospf@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f403045d57ae41ef1a054b7f9e7a Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Bier] Early allocation request for codepoints in draft-ietf-bier-ospf-bier-extensions X-BeenThere: bier@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "\"Bit Indexed Explicit Replication discussion list\"" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 20:12:55 -0000 --f403045d57ae41ef1a054b7f9e7a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, I will follow up next week with chairs/IANA on both OSPF & ISIS calls for early alloc issued today by Jeffrey ... --- tony On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang < zzhang@juniper.net> wrote: > Greg, Tony, and WG, > > draft-ietf-bier-ospf-bier-extensions has the following IANA requests: > > The document requests three new allocations from the OSPF Extended > Prefix sub-TLV registry as defined in > [I-D.ietf-ospf-prefix-link-attr]. > > BIER Sub-TLV: TBD > > BIER MPLS Encapsulation Sub-TLV: TBD > > BIER Tree Type Sub-TLV: TBD > > ietf-ospf-prefix-link-attr is now RFC 7684, and has the following: > > The "OSPFv2 Extended Prefix TLV Sub-TLVs" registry defines sub-TLVs > at any level of nesting for OSPFv2 Extended Prefix TLVs and has been > added to the "Open Shortest Path First v2 (OSPFv2) Parameters" > registry. New values can be allocated via IETF Review or IESG > Approval. > > Per RFC 7120, codepoints in that Registry are eligible for early > allocation by IANA. > > I would like to request that the WG chairs initiate the process to get an > early allocation for these codepoints. > > Thanks. > Jeffrey > > _______________________________________________ > BIER mailing list > BIER@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier > --=20 *We=E2=80=99ve heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could pr= oduce the complete works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know that is not true.* =E2=80=94Robert Wilensky --f403045d57ae41ef1a054b7f9e7a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Thanks, I will follow up next week with = chairs/IANA on both OSPF & ISIS calls for early alloc issued today by J= effrey ...
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--- tony=C2=A0
=

On Fr= i, Mar 24, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang <= zzhang@juniper.net<= /a>> wrote:
Greg, Tony, and WG,=

draft-ietf-bier-ospf-bier-extensions has the following IANA requests:<= br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0The document requests three new allocations from the OSPF Exte= nded
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Prefix sub-TLV registry as defined in
=C2=A0 =C2=A0[I-D.ietf-ospf-prefix-link-attr].

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BIER Sub-TLV: TBD

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BIER MPLS Encapsulation Sub-TLV: TBD

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BIER Tree Type Sub-TLV: TBD

ietf-ospf-prefix-link-attr is now RFC 7684, and has the following:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0The "OSPFv2 Extended Prefix TLV Sub-TLVs" registry d= efines sub-TLVs
=C2=A0 =C2=A0at any level of nesting for OSPFv2 Extended Prefix TLVs and ha= s been
=C2=A0 =C2=A0added to the "Open Shortest Path First v2 (OSPFv2) Parame= ters"
=C2=A0 =C2=A0registry.=C2=A0 New values can be allocated via IETF Review or= IESG
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Approval.

Per RFC 7120, codepoints in that Registry are eligible for early
allocation by IANA.

I would like to request that the WG chairs initiate the process to get an e= arly allocation for these codepoints.

Thanks.
Jeffrey

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--001a11406ad0a3d3aa054b8e2f22-- From nobody Mon Mar 27 05:35:02 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bier@ietf.org Delivered-To: bier@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC44124D37; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 05:34:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: bier@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.48.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149061809560.30638.1687104106287771422@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 05:34:55 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Bier] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bier-isis-extensions-04.txt X-BeenThere: bier@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "\"Bit Indexed Explicit Replication discussion list\"" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 12:34:55 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Bit Indexed Explicit Replication of the IETF. Title : BIER support via ISIS Authors : Les Ginsberg Tony Przygienda Sam Aldrin Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang Filename : draft-ietf-bier-isis-extensions-04.txt Pages : 12 Date : 2017-03-27 Abstract: Specification of an ISIS extension to support BIER domains and sub- domains. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bier-isis-extensions/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bier-isis-extensions-04 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-bier-isis-extensions-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bier-isis-extensions-04 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Please read and send any corrections to me. I'll be posting shortly. Thanks, Greg (chairs) -----minutes----- BIER WG Minutes IETF 98 Chicago March 27, 2017 1300-1500 draft-pfister-bier-mld-03, presented by Stig Stig: Early next week we will Take to the list for interest. No questions from the WG draft-hu-bier-oam-yang, presented by Fangwei Hu Stig We have multicast yang design team. You should coordinate with them Greg S: We need to roll Bier Yang team into that fold Greg Mirsky: We should look at connectionless vs connected models to see which one makes more sense Greg S. Are you asking for WG adoption? Fangwei: Not now. Details still need to be flushed out Echo Request and Echo Reply for Overlay OAM Header for Overlay Networks, presented by Greg Mirsky Tony P: How to deal with MTU that OAM header addition will cause? Greg Mirsky: Proactive MTU discovery is important. Some scenarios are being discussed. Good question Greg Mirsky: Asking for WG adoption in NVO3 group. Not here. Greg S We need input from Bier WG Early code-point allocation, presented by Tony P. Eric Rosen: Juniper Need code-point for Bier Tunnel Types. Already requested on list. Alia: Is it specified what is needed for IANA. How solid are the drafts? Tony: not squishy Alia: If you want codepoints now, watch for the 1-year cliff that you=E2=80=99re triggering Eric: If you already used a value, good time to speak upon these values. Tony: Some code-points are being squatted on. Ice: Thanks for raising this, we=E2=80=99re checking on SR codepoints & will com= e back with BIER values. Open discussion on WG next steps: Greg: We are currently Experimental status. Deployment experience is a requirement in charter. We should ask just for Lab experience. Accept by raise of hands? 1 person said it was inadequate Andrew D: Still wants experimental. Just playing in the labs. May never see light of day. We have good momentum, though. Step forward but not sufficient to remove . Need production experience. Greg: Not all labs are the same. Some labs may be full replication of a production network Andrew: Unless willing to put money-generating traffic, then experimental. Just a question of experimental vs not. Greg: Only need to be =E2=80=9Cwilling=E2=80=9D? Don=E2=80=99t need to actually = do it? Andrew: Hypothetical. Not technical discussion. Deployment experience is not a lab. Greg: Sense of room. Worth of effort for standards: Experimental 4. Standards has 15ish Alia: Re-chartering WG needed for Standards track. Alia needs to take charter to IESG for approval. Needs a solid reason. Process available to take an individual document to make a Standard. Even same RFC, but could just give a new RFC #. Greg: Enough interest to work on this document? Alia: I would welcome progress on this item. Did not envision lab experience would be thought as deployment experience. Ice: Input from operators would be good. Does experimental matter to them? Lenny: Creates too low of a bar to call lab as deployment. Not substitute for real deployment. Eric: What difference does experimental make. Martin H., DT: This question doesn=E2=80=99t matter too much. Have the code and the docum= ent (RFC) is a plus. RFC is better than draft. Lab is similar to deployment. Greg M What about interoperability. Testing done in lab. So should be sufficient= . Luay, Verizon: 95% of what is deployed should be standard. If standard, then more likely to deploy.. Depends if you have other options. We=E2=80=99re a Big Servic= e provider, though. Robert R, Bloomberg: Any change in implementation if code-points change when moved to Standard? = For us it=E2=80=99s important to have an RFC. Experimental or not is not that i= mportant. Alia: IANA code-points don=E2=80=99t change. Reason why experimental, narrow po= int in hourglass, if it provides concrete benefits, such that strong motivation to deploy. But if it doesn=E2=80=99t have business, driver doesn=E2=80=99t wa= nt IETF standards to pay the price for many years. Greg: Can take this forward and can change to standards track in future. (Started rambling about the history of multicast, why IPMulticast was an architectural mistake, and why Bier is superior.) Who wants to assist with document? (3 hands) I will take to the list to look for interest in document. Lenny: You were concerned of chicken-and-egg with experiments. However, if it=E2= =80=99s useful it will get used. So, don=E2=80=99t worry about that. Adjourn --94eb2c072ec050ece9054bf48ee2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here are the minutes from our WG meeting this week. Please= read and send any corrections to me. I'll be posting shortly.

=
Thanks,
Greg (chairs)

-----mi= nutes-----

BIER WG Minutes=

IETF 98 Chicago=

March 27, 2017 1300-1500


draft-pfister-bier-mld-= 03, presented by Stig

Stig:

Early next week we wil= l Take to the list for interest.

No questions from the WG


draft-hu-bier-oam-yang,= presented by Fangwei Hu

Stig

We have multicast yang desig= n team.=C2=A0 You should coordinate with them

Greg S:

We need to roll Bier Yang te= am into that fold

Greg Mirsky:

We should look at connection= less vs connected models to see which one makes more sense

Greg S.

Are you asking for WG adopti= on?

Fangwei:

Not now.=C2=A0 Details still= need to be flushed out

=C2=A0

Echo Request and Echo Reply = for Overlay

OAM Header for Overlay Netwo= rks, presented by Greg Mirsky

Tony P:

How to deal with MTU = that OAM header addition will cause?

Greg Mirsky:

Proactive MTU discovery is i= mportant.=C2=A0 Some scenarios are being discussed.=C2=A0 Good question

Greg Mirsky: =C2=A0=C2=A0

Asking for WG adoption in NV= O3 group.=C2=A0 Not here.

Greg S

We need input from Bier WG

=C2=A0

Early code-point allocation,= presented by Tony P.

Eric Rosen:=C2=A0 Juniper

Ne= ed code-point for Bier Tunnel Types.=C2=A0 Already requested on list.=C2=A0

Alia:

Is it specified what is need= ed for IANA.=C2=A0 How solid are the drafts?

Tony:

not squishy

Alia:

If you want codepoints now, watch for the 1-year cliff that you=E2=80=99re triggering

Eric:

If you already used a value,= good time to speak upon these values.

Tony:

Some code-points are being s= quatted on.

Ice:

Thanks for raising this, we=E2=80=99re checking on SR codepoints & will come back with BIER values.

=C2=A0

Open discussion on WG next steps: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0

Greg:

We are currently Experimenta= l status.=C2=A0 Deployment experience is a requirement in charter.=C2=A0 We should ask just= for Lab experience.=C2=A0Accept by raise of hands?=C2=A0=C2=A0 1 person = said it was inadequate

Andrew D:

Still wants experimental.=C2= =A0 Just playing in the labs.=C2=A0 May never see light of day.=C2=A0 We have good momentum, though.=C2=A0 Step forward but not sufficient to remove .=C2=A0 Need produc= tion experience.

Greg:

Not all labs are the same. S= ome labs may be full replication of a production network

Andrew:

Unless willing to put money-= generating traffic, then experimental.=C2=A0 Just a question of experimental vs not.

Greg:

Only need to be =E2=80=9Cwil= ling=E2=80=9D?=C2=A0 Don=E2=80=99t need to actually do it?

Andrew:

Hypothetical.=C2=A0 Not tech= nical discussion.=C2=A0 Deployment experience is not a lab.

Greg:

Sense of room.=C2=A0 Worth o= f effort for standards:=C2=A0Experimental 4. Standards has 15ish

=

Alia:

Re-chartering WG needed for = Standards track.=C2=A0 Alia needs to take charter to IESG for approval.=C2=A0 Needs a solid reason.=C2=A0 Process available to take an individual document to make a Standard.=C2=A0 Even same RFC, but could just give a new RFC #.=C2=A0

Greg:

Enough interest to work on t= his document?

Alia:

I would welcome progress on = this item.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Did not envision lab experience would be thought as deployment experience.<= /span>

Ice:

Input from operators would b= e good.=C2=A0 Does experimental matter to them?

Lenny:

Creates too low of a bar to = call lab as deployment.=C2=A0 Not substitute for real deployment.=C2=A0

Eric:

What difference does experim= ental make.=C2=A0

Martin H., DT:

=

This question doesn=E2=80=99= t matter too much.=C2=A0 Have the code and the document (RFC) is a plus.=C2=A0 RFC is better than draft.=C2=A0 Lab is similar to deployment.=C2=A0

Greg M

What about interoperability.= =C2=A0 Testing done in lab.=C2=A0 So should be sufficient.

Luay, Verizon:

=

95% of what is deployed shou= ld be standard.=C2=A0 If standard, then more likely to deploy..=C2=A0 Depends if you have other options.=C2=A0 We=E2=80=99re a Big Service provider, though.

Robert R, Bloomberg:

<= /span>

Any change in implementation= if code-points change when moved to Standard?=C2=A0For us it=E2=80=99s important to have a= n RFC. Experimental or not is not that important.

Alia:

IANA code-points don=E2=80= =99t change.=C2=A0 Reason why experimental,=C2=A0 narrow point in hourglass, if it provides concrete benefits, such that strong motivation to deploy.=C2=A0 But if it doesn=E2= =80=99t have business, driver doesn=E2=80=99t want IETF standards to pay the price for m= any years.

Greg:

Can take this forward and ca= n change to standards track in future. (Started rambling about the history of multicast, why IPMulticast was an architectural mistake, and why Bier is superior.)=

Who wants to assist with doc= ument?=C2=A0 (3 hands) I will take to the list to look for interest in document.=

Lenny:

You were concerned of chicke= n-and-egg with experiments.=C2=A0 However, if it=E2=80=99s useful it will get used.=C2=A0 = So, don=E2=80=99t worry about that.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Adjourn=C2=A0

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