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The BIER agenda has been uploaded. Please review and let me know of any
corrections, additions, etc.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/

Thanks,
Greg
(Chairs)


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> Why stop @ 100, BIER is 10x ;-)
>
> Seriously though, please submit agenda for IETF 100 Singapore BIER session
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> looking forward to see you all there ...
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> --- tony
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The BIER agenda has been uploaded. Please review and let m=
e know of any corrections, additions, etc.<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"ht=
tps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/">https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/doc/agenda-100-bier/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>=
Greg</div><div>(Chairs)</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Tony Prz=
ygienda <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tonysietf@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">tonysietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Why stop @ 100, BIER is 10x ;-)=C2=A0<div><b=
r></div><div>Seriously though, please submit agenda for IETF 100 Singapore =
BIER session=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>looking forward to see you all =
there ...=C2=A0</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><div><b=
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Hi Greg and Tony,
it may be that request to present BFD in BIER work got lost.
Hu Fangwei <hu.fangwei@zte.com.cn> wrote 2017/10/29:

Hi=EF=BC=8CTony

I'd like to apply a time slot for BIER BFD. Thanks.

Presentor: Fangwei Hu

time: 15 mintues

link: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hu-bier-bfd/

Regards

Fangwei


Appreciate your kind consideration.


Regards,

Greg

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> The BIER agenda has been uploaded. Please review and let me know of any
> corrections, additions, etc.
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
> (Chairs)
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Why stop @ 100, BIER is 10x ;-)
>>
>> Seriously though, please submit agenda for IETF 100 Singapore BIER
>> session
>>
>> looking forward to see you all there ...
>>
>> --- tony
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Greg and Tony,<div>it may be that request to present BF=
D in BIER work got lost.</div><div>Hu Fangwei &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hu.fang=
wei@zte.com.cn">hu.fangwei@zte.com.cn</a>&gt; wrote 2017/10/29:</div><div><=
br></div><div><p style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;min-height:14px;=
color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;line-height:20px;font-family:arial;outline:=
0px">Hi=EF=BC=8CTony</p><p style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;min-he=
ight:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;line-height:20px;font-family:aria=
l;outline:0px">I&#39;d like to apply a time slot for BIER BFD. Thanks.</p><=
p style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;min-height:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0=
);font-size:14px;line-height:20px;font-family:arial;outline:0px">Presentor:=
 Fangwei Hu</p><p style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;min-height:14px=
;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;line-height:20px;font-family:arial;outline=
:0px">time: 15 mintues</p><p style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;min-=
height:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;line-height:20px;font-family:ar=
ial;outline:0px">link:=C2=A0<a target=3D"_blank" style=3D"box-sizing:border=
-box;color:rgb(46,49,51);text-decoration-line:underline;background-color:tr=
ansparent;outline:0px">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hu-bier-bfd/<=
/a></p><p style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;min-height:14px;color:r=
gb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;line-height:20px;font-family:arial;outline:0px">Re=
gards</p><p style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;min-height:14px;color=
:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;line-height:20px;font-family:arial;outline:0px">=
Fangwei</p><p style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;min-height:14px;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;line-height:20px;font-family:arial;outline:0px=
"><br></p><p style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;min-height:14px;colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;line-height:20px;font-family:arial;outline:0px"=
>Appreciate your kind consideration.</p><p style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;m=
argin:0px;min-height:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;line-height:20px;=
font-family:arial;outline:0px"><br></p><p style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;ma=
rgin:0px;min-height:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;line-height:20px;f=
ont-family:arial;outline:0px">Regards,</p><p style=3D"box-sizing:border-box=
;margin:0px;min-height:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;line-height:20p=
x;font-family:arial;outline:0px">Greg</p></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_ex=
tra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Greg Sh=
epherd <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gjshep@gmail.com" target=3D"=
_blank">gjshep@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">The BIER agenda has been uploaded. Please review and=
 let me know of any corrections, additions, etc.<div><br></div><div><a href=
=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tps://datatracker.ietf.org/<wbr>doc/agenda-100-bier/</a><br></div><div><br>=
</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Greg</div><div>(Chairs)</div><div><br></div></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=
=3D"">On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Tony Przygienda <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tonysietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tonysietf@gmail=
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iv class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr">Why stop @ 100, BIER is 10x ;-)=C2=A0<div>=
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l there ...=C2=A0</div><span class=3D"m_-8683978546842833724HOEnZb"><font c=
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Sorry for the oversight. I'll make the correction and repost.

Thanks,
Greg

On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Greg and Tony,
> it may be that request to present BFD in BIER work got lost.
> Hu Fangwei <hu.fangwei@zte.com.cn> wrote 2017/10/29:
>
> Hi=EF=BC=8CTony
>
> I'd like to apply a time slot for BIER BFD. Thanks.
>
> Presentor: Fangwei Hu
>
> time: 15 mintues
>
> link: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hu-bier-bfd/
>
> Regards
>
> Fangwei
>
>
> Appreciate your kind consideration.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
>
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The BIER agenda has been uploaded. Please review and let me know of any
>> corrections, additions, etc.
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Greg
>> (Chairs)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Why stop @ 100, BIER is 10x ;-)
>>>
>>> Seriously though, please submit agenda for IETF 100 Singapore BIER
>>> session
>>>
>>> looking forward to see you all there ...
>>>
>>> --- tony
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry for the oversight. I&#39;ll make the correction and =
repost.<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Greg</div></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:41 AM,=
 Greg Mirsky <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">gregimirsky@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Greg and Tony,<div>it may be that=
 request to present BFD in BIER work got lost.</div><div>Hu Fangwei &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:hu.fangwei@zte.com.cn" target=3D"_blank">hu.fangwei@zte.com.=
cn</a>&gt; wrote 2017/10/29:</div><div><br></div><div><p style=3D"box-sizin=
g:border-box;margin:0px;min-height:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;lin=
e-height:20px;font-family:arial;outline:0px">Hi=EF=BC=8CTony</p><p style=3D=
"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;min-height:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-siz=
e:14px;line-height:20px;font-family:arial;outline:0px">I&#39;d like to appl=
y a time slot for BIER BFD. Thanks.</p><p style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;ma=
rgin:0px;min-height:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;line-height:20px;f=
ont-family:arial;outline:0px">Presentor: Fangwei Hu</p><p style=3D"box-sizi=
ng:border-box;margin:0px;min-height:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;li=
ne-height:20px;font-family:arial;outline:0px">time: 15 mintues</p><p style=
=3D"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;min-height:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-=
size:14px;line-height:20px;font-family:arial;outline:0px">link:=C2=A0<a sty=
le=3D"box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(46,49,51);text-decoration-line:underl=
ine;background-color:transparent;outline:0px">https://datatracker.<wbr>ietf=
.org/doc/draft-hu-bier-<wbr>bfd/</a></p><p style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;m=
argin:0px;min-height:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;line-height:20px;=
font-family:arial;outline:0px">Regards</p><p style=3D"box-sizing:border-box=
;margin:0px;min-height:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;line-height:20p=
x;font-family:arial;outline:0px">Fangwei</p><p style=3D"box-sizing:border-b=
ox;margin:0px;min-height:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;line-height:2=
0px;font-family:arial;outline:0px"><br></p><p style=3D"box-sizing:border-bo=
x;margin:0px;min-height:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;line-height:20=
px;font-family:arial;outline:0px">Appreciate your kind consideration.</p><p=
 style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;min-height:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0)=
;font-size:14px;line-height:20px;font-family:arial;outline:0px"><br></p><p =
style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;min-height:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);=
font-size:14px;line-height:20px;font-family:arial;outline:0px">Regards,</p>=
<p style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;min-height:14px;color:rgb(0,0,=
0);font-size:14px;line-height:20px;font-family:arial;outline:0px">Greg</p><=
/div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extr=
a"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Greg Shep=
herd <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gjshep@gmail.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">gjshep@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">The BIER agenda has been uploaded. Please review and l=
et me know of any corrections, additions, etc.<div><br></div><div><a href=
=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tps://datatracker.ietf.org/d<wbr>oc/agenda-100-bier/</a><br></div><div><br>=
</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Greg</div><div>(Chairs)</div><div><br></div></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Wed,=
 Oct 25, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Tony Przygienda <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:tonysietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tonysietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;<=
/span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"m=
_6797296498804466925h5"><div dir=3D"ltr">Why stop @ 100, BIER is 10x ;-)=C2=
=A0<div><br></div><div>Seriously though, please submit agenda for IETF 100 =
Singapore BIER session=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>looking forward to se=
e you all there ...=C2=A0</div><span class=3D"m_6797296498804466925m_-86839=
78546842833724HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>--- tony=
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all looks good. My, we busy, lots interesting topics ;-)

--- tony

On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:

> The BIER agenda has been uploaded. Please review and let me know of any
> corrections, additions, etc.
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
> (Chairs)
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Why stop @ 100, BIER is 10x ;-)
>>
>> Seriously though, please submit agenda for IETF 100 Singapore BIER
>> session
>>
>> looking forward to see you all there ...
>>
>> --- tony
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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pherd <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gjshep@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">gjshep@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">The BIER agenda has been uploaded. Please review and =
let me know of any corrections, additions, etc.<div><br></div><div><a href=
=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tps://datatracker.ietf.org/<wbr>doc/agenda-100-bier/</a><br></div><div><br>=
</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Greg</div><div>(Chairs)</div><div><br></div></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=
=3D"">On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Tony Przygienda <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tonysietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tonysietf@gmail=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><d=
iv class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr">Why stop @ 100, BIER is 10x ;-)=C2=A0<div>=
<br></div><div>Seriously though, please submit agenda for IETF 100 Singapor=
e BIER session=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>looking forward to see you al=
l there ...=C2=A0</div><span class=3D"m_-3560778496121684088HOEnZb"><font c=
olor=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>--- tony=C2=A0</div></font></span></di=
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Subject: [Bier] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hfa-bier-pim-signaling/ - ex Re: clarification in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bier-architecture-08
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hi,

On 10/30/2017 03:31 PM, Alia Atlas wrote:
> Thanks for letting us know that you are developing bier for 
> freerouter.nop.hu <http://freerouter.nop.hu>.
> I am expecting a number of other relevant drafts to be progressing out 
> of the
> BIER WG soon - so this would be a really excellent time to read through and
> provide feedback.
sorry to bother you again, i swear this will be my last mail for a long 
time:)
so i've finished my forwarding part and also done
pim-bier interworking, especially this draft:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hfa-bier-pim-signaling/
i found it so useful so i suggest everybody to implement it.
it was so easy, i've to patch just some parts of the code...
the stuff works as written in the draft, but the draft does
not say anything about what's the bier encapsulated join's
destination ip address. i've tried to leave it as is now,
multicast, but then changed to unicast of the remote pe's
loopback address. both versions works, but the latter helps
the remote pe to distinguish between tunneled and normal
pim joins, and helps to dispatch the tunneled join to the
correct interface. imagine if the remote pe have more
loopbacks in different bier domains...

below you can see some proof that the stuff works...
first the labels then one endpoint's mroute table
and a dbeacon like app reporting 100% connectivity.
lastly some packet debug. within the debugs,
the rx followed by the tx(es) since this bsr have
a lot of peers... the rxes with one bit set followed
by just one tx are probably the pim joins...
the others are the app's multicasted report packets.

and finally, if anybody is interested in interop testing,
feel free to email me...

regards,
cs



mchome-core#show mpls forwarding | include bier 

28651   inet:4  null       null            unlabelled  bier     17919706
28652   inet:4  null       null            unlabelled  bier     0
626691  inet:6  null       null            unlabelled  bier     22462720
626692  inet:6  null       null            unlabelled  bier     0

mchome-core#show mpls forwarding 28651 

category      value
label         28651
key           18-lsrp bier
working       true
forwarder     inet:4
interface     null
nexthop       null
remote label  unlabelled
need local    false
bier base     28651
bier bsl      3-256
bier fwdr     inet:4
bier peer     10.1.1.26 serial102 lab=819097 bit=25/221 
msk=180000002018000000000000008020017c00004000007ea0c0000400
bier peer     10.1.1.50 serial104 lab=655951 bit=2/170 
msk=2000000000000000000000000000000000000001000
bier peer     10.1.1.54 serial105 lab=825252 bit=1/12 msk=800
bier peer     10.1.1.58 serial101 lab=86168 bit=1/14 msk=2000
bier peer     10.1.1.66 serial106 lab=657580 bit=28/88 
msk=fe8000787600001fd94000
bier peer     10.1.1.118 serial103 lab=220357 bit=1/22 msk=200000
pwe iface     null
pwe del       0
pwe add       n/a
counter       tx=0(0) rx=17930297(107814) drp=0(0)

mchome-core#show mpls forwarding 626691 

category      value
label         626691
key           18-lsrp bier
working       true
forwarder     inet:6
interface     null
nexthop       null
remote label  unlabelled
need local    false
bier base     626691
bier bsl      3-256
bier fwdr     inet:6
bier peer     2001:db8:17::2 serial102 lab=564980 bit=25/221 
msk=180000002018000000000000008020017c00004000007ea0c0000400
bier peer     2001:db8:1d::2 serial104 lab=732750 bit=2/170 
msk=2000000000000000000000000000000000000001000
bier peer     2001:db8:1f::2 serial105 lab=79127 bit=1/12 msk=800
bier peer     2001:db8:22::2 serial101 lab=200913 bit=1/14 msk=2000
bier peer     2001:db8:2c::2 serial106 lab=395619 bit=28/88 
msk=fe8000787600001fd94000
bier peer     2001:db8:3a::2 serial103 lab=301581 bit=1/22 msk=200000
pwe iface     null
pwe del       0
pwe add       n/a
counter       tx=0(0) rx=22484209(107927) drp=0(0)

mchome-core#


mchome-evpn#show ipv4 mroute inet 

source        group          interface  upstream      targets
10.1.252.252  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.1.252.253  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.1.252.254  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.1.252.255  232.197.91.25  loopback0  10.1.252.255  local bier
10.4.4.254    232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.10.10.3    232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.10.10.12   232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.10.10.16   232.197.91.25  null       null          local
10.10.10.19   232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.10.10.88   232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.10.10.222  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.10.10.224  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.10.10.225  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.10.10.226  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.10.10.227  232.197.91.25  null       null          local

mchome-evpn#show ipv6 mroute inet 

source                  group                interface  upstream 
        targets
2001:db8:1101::3        ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1 
        local
2001:db8:1101::12       ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1 
        local
2001:db8:1101::16       ff09::232:197:91:25  null       null 
        local
2001:db8:1101::19       ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1 
        local
2001:db8:1101::88       ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1 
        local
2001:db8:1101::4254     ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1 
        local
2001:db8:1101::222:222  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1 
        local
2001:db8:1101::224:224  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1 
        local
2001:db8:1101::225:225  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1 
        local
2001:db8:1101::226:226  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1 
        local
2001:db8:1101::227:227  ff09::232:197:91:25  null       null 
        local
2001:db8:1101::252:252  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1 
        local
2001:db8:1101::252:253  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1 
        local
2001:db8:1101::252:254  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1 
        local
2001:db8:1101::252:255  ff09::232:197:91:25  loopback0 
2001:db8:1101::252:255  local bier

mchome-evpn#show mtracker v4m 

name=v4m, round=3485, group=232.197.91.25
port=5488, timer=6666/6, ifc=ifc loopback0
peer#0: ip=10.1.252.252, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:43:06, 
heard=00:00:03, counter=tx=0(0) rx=724496(3472) drp=0(0)
peer#1: ip=10.1.252.253, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:44:19, 
heard=00:00:02, counter=tx=0(0) rx=726184(3480) drp=0(0)
peer#2: ip=10.1.252.254, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:43:06, 
heard=00:00:04, counter=tx=0(0) rx=722583(3463) drp=0(0)
peer#3: ip=10.1.252.255, state=up, changes=1, since=2017-11-03 05:42:02, 
heard=00:00:00, counter=tx=0(0) rx=0(0) drp=0(0)
peer#4: ip=10.4.4.254, state=up, changes=5, since=2017-11-03 09:18:31, 
heard=00:00:01, counter=tx=0(0) rx=689718(3446) drp=0(0)
peer#5: ip=10.10.10.3, state=up, changes=1, since=2017-11-03 05:42:09, 
heard=00:00:05, counter=tx=0(0) rx=720267(3451) drp=0(0)
peer#6: ip=10.10.10.12, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:54:39, 
heard=00:00:03, counter=tx=0(0) rx=720604(3452) drp=0(0)
peer#7: ip=10.10.10.16, state=down, changes=0, since=1970-01-01 
00:59:59, heard=never, counter=tx=0(0) rx=0(0) drp=0(0)
peer#8: ip=10.10.10.19, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:51:19, 
heard=00:00:04, counter=tx=0(0) rx=721634(3458) drp=0(0)
peer#9: ip=10.10.10.88, state=up, changes=1, since=2017-11-03 05:42:02, 
heard=00:00:00, counter=tx=0(0) rx=726377(3481) drp=0(0)
peer#10: ip=10.10.10.222, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 
05:43:26, heard=00:00:01, counter=tx=0(0) rx=715267(3427) drp=0(0)
peer#11: ip=10.10.10.224, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 
06:00:59, heard=00:00:01, counter=tx=0(0) rx=719753(3449) drp=0(0)
peer#12: ip=10.10.10.225, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 
06:00:53, heard=00:00:00, counter=tx=0(0) rx=720990(3454) drp=0(0)
peer#13: ip=10.10.10.226, state=up, changes=5, since=2017-11-03 
09:21:44, heard=00:00:02, counter=tx=0(0) rx=715539(3427) drp=0(0)
peer#14: ip=10.10.10.227, state=down, changes=0, since=1970-01-01 
00:59:59, heard=never, counter=tx=0(0) rx=0(0) drp=0(0)

\   0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12  13  14
0   \  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
1   +  \  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
2   +  +  \  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
3   +  +  +  \  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
4   +  +  +  +  \  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
5   +  +  +  +  +  \  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
6   +  +  +  +  +  +  \  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
7   -  -  -  -  -  -  -  \  -  -  -   -   -   -   -
8   +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  \  +  +   +   +   +   -
9   +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  \  +   +   +   +   -
10  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  \   +   +   +   -
11  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   \   +   +   -
12  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   \   +   -
13  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   \   -
14  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -   -   -   -   \

mchome-evpn#show mtracker v6m 

name=v6m, round=3487, group=ff09::232:197:91:25
port=5488, timer=6666/6, ifc=ifc loopback0
peer#0: ip=2001:db8:1101::3, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 
05:59:24, heard=00:00:00, counter=tx=0(0) rx=722885(3461) drp=0(0)
peer#1: ip=2001:db8:1101::12, state=up, changes=1, since=2017-11-03 
05:42:09, heard=00:00:02, counter=tx=0(0) rx=719622(3446) drp=0(0)
peer#2: ip=2001:db8:1101::16, state=down, changes=0, since=1970-01-01 
00:59:59, heard=never, counter=tx=0(0) rx=0(0) drp=0(0)
peer#3: ip=2001:db8:1101::19, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 
05:51:19, heard=00:00:01, counter=tx=0(0) rx=721149(3453) drp=0(0)
peer#4: ip=2001:db8:1101::88, state=up, changes=1, since=2017-11-03 
05:42:16, heard=00:00:03, counter=tx=0(0) rx=725393(3473) drp=0(0)
peer#5: ip=2001:db8:1101::4254, state=up, changes=5, since=2017-11-03 
09:18:26, heard=00:00:01, counter=tx=0(0) rx=719267(3443) drp=0(0)
peer#6: ip=2001:db8:1101::222:222, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 
05:43:39, heard=00:00:00, counter=tx=0(0) rx=717322(3434) drp=0(0)
peer#7: ip=2001:db8:1101::224:224, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 
06:00:58, heard=00:00:05, counter=tx=0(0) rx=721776(3456) drp=0(0)
peer#8: ip=2001:db8:1101::225:225, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 
06:00:58, heard=00:00:04, counter=tx=0(0) rx=723255(3463) drp=0(0)
peer#9: ip=2001:db8:1101::226:226, state=up, changes=7, since=2017-11-03 
09:21:46, heard=00:00:06, counter=tx=0(0) rx=719268(3444) drp=0(0)
peer#10: ip=2001:db8:1101::227:227, state=down, changes=0, 
since=1970-01-01 00:59:59, heard=never, counter=tx=0(0) rx=0(0) drp=0(0)
peer#11: ip=2001:db8:1101::252:252, state=up, changes=1, 
since=2017-11-03 05:42:02, heard=00:00:06, counter=tx=0(0) 
rx=724832(3472) drp=0(0)
peer#12: ip=2001:db8:1101::252:253, state=up, changes=3, 
since=2017-11-03 05:44:19, heard=00:00:03, counter=tx=0(0) 
rx=725571(3475) drp=0(0)
peer#13: ip=2001:db8:1101::252:254, state=up, changes=3, 
since=2017-11-03 05:43:06, heard=00:00:02, counter=tx=0(0) 
rx=724076(3468) drp=0(0)
peer#14: ip=2001:db8:1101::252:255, state=up, changes=1, 
since=2017-11-03 05:42:02, heard=00:00:06, counter=tx=0(0) rx=0(0) drp=0(0)

\   0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12  13  14
0   \  +  -  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -   +   +   +   +
1   +  \  -  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -   +   +   +   +
2   -  -  \  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -   -   -   -   -
3   +  +  -  \  +  +  +  +  +  +  -   +   +   +   +
4   +  +  -  +  \  +  +  +  +  +  -   +   +   +   +
5   +  +  -  +  +  \  +  +  +  +  -   +   +   +   +
6   +  +  -  +  +  +  \  +  +  +  -   +   +   +   +
7   +  +  -  +  +  +  +  \  +  +  -   +   +   +   +
8   +  +  -  +  +  +  +  +  \  +  -   +   +   +   +
9   +  +  -  +  +  +  +  +  +  \  -   +   +   +   +
10  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  \   -   -   -   -
11  +  +  -  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -   \   +   +   +
12  +  +  -  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -   +   \   +   +
13  +  +  -  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -   +   +   \   +
14  +  +  -  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -   +   +   +   \

mchome-evpn#



mchome-core#debug mpls bier
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=23 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=23 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=23 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=93 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=93 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=93 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=120 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=120 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=120 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=120 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=120 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=120 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=29 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=29 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=29 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=29 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=29 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=29 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=93 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=93 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=93 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=22 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000000000000000800001708000000000400090c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=22 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=22 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=24 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=24 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=24 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=88 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=88 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=88 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=22 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000000000000000800001708000000000400090c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=22 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=22 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=24 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=24 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=24 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=88 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=88 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=88 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=23 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=23 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=23 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4 
bs=200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6 
bs=8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6 
bs=10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6 
bs=800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6 
bs=400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6 
bs=400000


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Thanks for the suggestion and feedback on draft-hfa-bier-pim-signaling!
That isn't a working group draft yet, so feedback on how it is useful as
well
as suggestions for improvement (on any drafts) based on experience are
always
welcome.

It would be unfortunate if this is your last email for a long time.
Collaborating
on improving and completing bier - based on your experience with making
running code is quite helpful.

It would be excellent to see some interop testing start to happen.

Regards,
Alia


On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 7:15 AM, matecs <matecs@niif.hu> wrote:

> hi,
>
> On 10/30/2017 03:31 PM, Alia Atlas wrote:
>
>> Thanks for letting us know that you are developing bier for
>> freerouter.nop.hu <http://freerouter.nop.hu>.
>> I am expecting a number of other relevant drafts to be progressing out of
>> the
>> BIER WG soon - so this would be a really excellent time to read through
>> and
>> provide feedback.
>>
> sorry to bother you again, i swear this will be my last mail for a long
> time:)
> so i've finished my forwarding part and also done
> pim-bier interworking, especially this draft:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hfa-bier-pim-signaling/
> i found it so useful so i suggest everybody to implement it.
> it was so easy, i've to patch just some parts of the code...
> the stuff works as written in the draft, but the draft does
> not say anything about what's the bier encapsulated join's
> destination ip address. i've tried to leave it as is now,
> multicast, but then changed to unicast of the remote pe's
> loopback address. both versions works, but the latter helps
> the remote pe to distinguish between tunneled and normal
> pim joins, and helps to dispatch the tunneled join to the
> correct interface. imagine if the remote pe have more
> loopbacks in different bier domains...
>
> below you can see some proof that the stuff works...
> first the labels then one endpoint's mroute table
> and a dbeacon like app reporting 100% connectivity.
> lastly some packet debug. within the debugs,
> the rx followed by the tx(es) since this bsr have
> a lot of peers... the rxes with one bit set followed
> by just one tx are probably the pim joins...
> the others are the app's multicasted report packets.
>
> and finally, if anybody is interested in interop testing,
> feel free to email me...
>
> regards,
> cs
>
>
>
> mchome-core#show mpls forwarding | include bier
> 28651   inet:4  null       null            unlabelled  bier     17919706
> 28652   inet:4  null       null            unlabelled  bier     0
> 626691  inet:6  null       null            unlabelled  bier     22462720
> 626692  inet:6  null       null            unlabelled  bier     0
>
> mchome-core#show mpls forwarding 28651
> category      value
> label         28651
> key           18-lsrp bier
> working       true
> forwarder     inet:4
> interface     null
> nexthop       null
> remote label  unlabelled
> need local    false
> bier base     28651
> bier bsl      3-256
> bier fwdr     inet:4
> bier peer     10.1.1.26 serial102 lab=819097 bit=25/221
> msk=180000002018000000000000008020017c00004000007ea0c0000400
> bier peer     10.1.1.50 serial104 lab=655951 bit=2/170
> msk=2000000000000000000000000000000000000001000
> bier peer     10.1.1.54 serial105 lab=825252 bit=1/12 msk=800
> bier peer     10.1.1.58 serial101 lab=86168 bit=1/14 msk=2000
> bier peer     10.1.1.66 serial106 lab=657580 bit=28/88
> msk=fe8000787600001fd94000
> bier peer     10.1.1.118 serial103 lab=220357 bit=1/22 msk=200000
> pwe iface     null
> pwe del       0
> pwe add       n/a
> counter       tx=0(0) rx=17930297(107814) drp=0(0)
>
> mchome-core#show mpls forwarding 626691
> category      value
> label         626691
> key           18-lsrp bier
> working       true
> forwarder     inet:6
> interface     null
> nexthop       null
> remote label  unlabelled
> need local    false
> bier base     626691
> bier bsl      3-256
> bier fwdr     inet:6
> bier peer     2001:db8:17::2 serial102 lab=564980 bit=25/221
> msk=180000002018000000000000008020017c00004000007ea0c0000400
> bier peer     2001:db8:1d::2 serial104 lab=732750 bit=2/170
> msk=2000000000000000000000000000000000000001000
> bier peer     2001:db8:1f::2 serial105 lab=79127 bit=1/12 msk=800
> bier peer     2001:db8:22::2 serial101 lab=200913 bit=1/14 msk=2000
> bier peer     2001:db8:2c::2 serial106 lab=395619 bit=28/88
> msk=fe8000787600001fd94000
> bier peer     2001:db8:3a::2 serial103 lab=301581 bit=1/22 msk=200000
> pwe iface     null
> pwe del       0
> pwe add       n/a
> counter       tx=0(0) rx=22484209(107927) drp=0(0)
>
> mchome-core#
>
>
> mchome-evpn#show ipv4 mroute inet
> source        group          interface  upstream      targets
> 10.1.252.252  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.1.252.253  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.1.252.254  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.1.252.255  232.197.91.25  loopback0  10.1.252.255  local bier
> 10.4.4.254    232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.10.10.3    232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.10.10.12   232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.10.10.16   232.197.91.25  null       null          local
> 10.10.10.19   232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.10.10.88   232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.10.10.222  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.10.10.224  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.10.10.225  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.10.10.226  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.10.10.227  232.197.91.25  null       null          local
>
> mchome-evpn#show ipv6 mroute inet
> source                  group                interface  upstream
> targets
> 2001:db8:1101::3        ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>     local
> 2001:db8:1101::12       ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>     local
> 2001:db8:1101::16       ff09::232:197:91:25  null       null        local
> 2001:db8:1101::19       ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>     local
> 2001:db8:1101::88       ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>     local
> 2001:db8:1101::4254     ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>     local
> 2001:db8:1101::222:222  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>     local
> 2001:db8:1101::224:224  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>     local
> 2001:db8:1101::225:225  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>     local
> 2001:db8:1101::226:226  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>     local
> 2001:db8:1101::227:227  ff09::232:197:91:25  null       null        local
> 2001:db8:1101::252:252  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>     local
> 2001:db8:1101::252:253  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>     local
> 2001:db8:1101::252:254  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>     local
> 2001:db8:1101::252:255  ff09::232:197:91:25  loopback0
> 2001:db8:1101::252:255  local bier
>
> mchome-evpn#show mtracker v4m
> name=v4m, round=3485, group=232.197.91.25
> port=5488, timer=6666/6, ifc=ifc loopback0
> peer#0: ip=10.1.252.252, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:43:06,
> heard=00:00:03, counter=tx=0(0) rx=724496(3472) drp=0(0)
> peer#1: ip=10.1.252.253, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:44:19,
> heard=00:00:02, counter=tx=0(0) rx=726184(3480) drp=0(0)
> peer#2: ip=10.1.252.254, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:43:06,
> heard=00:00:04, counter=tx=0(0) rx=722583(3463) drp=0(0)
> peer#3: ip=10.1.252.255, state=up, changes=1, since=2017-11-03 05:42:02,
> heard=00:00:00, counter=tx=0(0) rx=0(0) drp=0(0)
> peer#4: ip=10.4.4.254, state=up, changes=5, since=2017-11-03 09:18:31,
> heard=00:00:01, counter=tx=0(0) rx=689718(3446) drp=0(0)
> peer#5: ip=10.10.10.3, state=up, changes=1, since=2017-11-03 05:42:09,
> heard=00:00:05, counter=tx=0(0) rx=720267(3451) drp=0(0)
> peer#6: ip=10.10.10.12, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:54:39,
> heard=00:00:03, counter=tx=0(0) rx=720604(3452) drp=0(0)
> peer#7: ip=10.10.10.16, state=down, changes=0, since=1970-01-01 00:59:59,
> heard=never, counter=tx=0(0) rx=0(0) drp=0(0)
> peer#8: ip=10.10.10.19, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:51:19,
> heard=00:00:04, counter=tx=0(0) rx=721634(3458) drp=0(0)
> peer#9: ip=10.10.10.88, state=up, changes=1, since=2017-11-03 05:42:02,
> heard=00:00:00, counter=tx=0(0) rx=726377(3481) drp=0(0)
> peer#10: ip=10.10.10.222, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:43:26,
> heard=00:00:01, counter=tx=0(0) rx=715267(3427) drp=0(0)
> peer#11: ip=10.10.10.224, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 06:00:59,
> heard=00:00:01, counter=tx=0(0) rx=719753(3449) drp=0(0)
> peer#12: ip=10.10.10.225, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 06:00:53,
> heard=00:00:00, counter=tx=0(0) rx=720990(3454) drp=0(0)
> peer#13: ip=10.10.10.226, state=up, changes=5, since=2017-11-03 09:21:44,
> heard=00:00:02, counter=tx=0(0) rx=715539(3427) drp=0(0)
> peer#14: ip=10.10.10.227, state=down, changes=0, since=1970-01-01
> 00:59:59, heard=never, counter=tx=0(0) rx=0(0) drp=0(0)
>
> \   0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12  13  14
> 0   \  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
> 1   +  \  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
> 2   +  +  \  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
> 3   +  +  +  \  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
> 4   +  +  +  +  \  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
> 5   +  +  +  +  +  \  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
> 6   +  +  +  +  +  +  \  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
> 7   -  -  -  -  -  -  -  \  -  -  -   -   -   -   -
> 8   +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  \  +  +   +   +   +   -
> 9   +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  \  +   +   +   +   -
> 10  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  \   +   +   +   -
> 11  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   \   +   +   -
> 12  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   \   +   -
> 13  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   \   -
> 14  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -   -   -   -   \
>
> mchome-evpn#show mtracker v6m
> name=v6m, round=3487, group=ff09::232:197:91:25
> port=5488, timer=6666/6, ifc=ifc loopback0
> peer#0: ip=2001:db8:1101::3, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03
> 05:59:24, heard=00:00:00, counter=tx=0(0) rx=722885(3461) drp=0(0)
> peer#1: ip=2001:db8:1101::12, state=up, changes=1, since=2017-11-03
> 05:42:09, heard=00:00:02, counter=tx=0(0) rx=719622(3446) drp=0(0)
> peer#2: ip=2001:db8:1101::16, state=down, changes=0, since=1970-01-01
> 00:59:59, heard=never, counter=tx=0(0) rx=0(0) drp=0(0)
> peer#3: ip=2001:db8:1101::19, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03
> 05:51:19, heard=00:00:01, counter=tx=0(0) rx=721149(3453) drp=0(0)
> peer#4: ip=2001:db8:1101::88, state=up, changes=1, since=2017-11-03
> 05:42:16, heard=00:00:03, counter=tx=0(0) rx=725393(3473) drp=0(0)
> peer#5: ip=2001:db8:1101::4254, state=up, changes=5, since=2017-11-03
> 09:18:26, heard=00:00:01, counter=tx=0(0) rx=719267(3443) drp=0(0)
> peer#6: ip=2001:db8:1101::222:222, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03
> 05:43:39, heard=00:00:00, counter=tx=0(0) rx=717322(3434) drp=0(0)
> peer#7: ip=2001:db8:1101::224:224, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03
> 06:00:58, heard=00:00:05, counter=tx=0(0) rx=721776(3456) drp=0(0)
> peer#8: ip=2001:db8:1101::225:225, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03
> 06:00:58, heard=00:00:04, counter=tx=0(0) rx=723255(3463) drp=0(0)
> peer#9: ip=2001:db8:1101::226:226, state=up, changes=7, since=2017-11-03
> 09:21:46, heard=00:00:06, counter=tx=0(0) rx=719268(3444) drp=0(0)
> peer#10: ip=2001:db8:1101::227:227, state=down, changes=0,
> since=1970-01-01 00:59:59, heard=never, counter=tx=0(0) rx=0(0) drp=0(0)
> peer#11: ip=2001:db8:1101::252:252, state=up, changes=1, since=2017-11-03
> 05:42:02, heard=00:00:06, counter=tx=0(0) rx=724832(3472) drp=0(0)
> peer#12: ip=2001:db8:1101::252:253, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03
> 05:44:19, heard=00:00:03, counter=tx=0(0) rx=725571(3475) drp=0(0)
> peer#13: ip=2001:db8:1101::252:254, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03
> 05:43:06, heard=00:00:02, counter=tx=0(0) rx=724076(3468) drp=0(0)
> peer#14: ip=2001:db8:1101::252:255, state=up, changes=1, since=2017-11-03
> 05:42:02, heard=00:00:06, counter=tx=0(0) rx=0(0) drp=0(0)
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>
> mchome-core#debug mpls bier
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=23 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=23 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=23 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=93 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=93 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=93 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=120 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=120 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=120 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=120 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=120 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=120 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=29 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=29 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=29 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=29 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=29 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=29 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=93 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=93 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=93 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=22 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001708000000000400090c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=22 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=22 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=24 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=24 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=24 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=88 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=88 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=88 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=22 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001708000000000400090c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=22 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=22 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=24 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=24 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=24 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=88 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=88 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=88 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=23 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=23 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=23 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for the suggestion and feedback on draft-hfa-bier-p=
im-signaling!=C2=A0<div>That isn&#39;t a working group draft yet, so feedba=
ck on how it is useful as well</div><div>as suggestions for improvement (on=
 any drafts) based on experience are always</div><div>welcome.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>It would be unfortunate if this is your last email for a long =
time. Collaborating</div><div>on improving and completing bier - based on y=
our experience with making</div><div>running code is quite helpful.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>It would be excellent to see some interop testing start t=
o happen.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Alia</div><div><br></=
div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, =
Nov 3, 2017 at 7:15 AM, matecs <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mate=
cs@niif.hu" target=3D"_blank">matecs@niif.hu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex">hi,<br>
<br>
On 10/30/2017 03:31 PM, Alia Atlas wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Thanks for letting us know that you are developing bier for <a href=3D"http=
://freerouter.nop.hu" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">freerouter.nop.h=
u</a> &lt;<a href=3D"http://freerouter.nop.hu" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D=
"_blank">http://freerouter.nop.hu</a>&gt;.<br>
I am expecting a number of other relevant drafts to be progressing out of t=
he<br>
BIER WG soon - so this would be a really excellent time to read through and=
<br>
provide feedback.<br>
</blockquote>
sorry to bother you again, i swear this will be my last mail for a long tim=
e:)<br>
so i&#39;ve finished my forwarding part and also done<br>
pim-bier interworking, especially this draft:<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hfa-bier-pim-signaling/" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/d<wbr>oc/=
draft-hfa-bier-pim-signalin<wbr>g/</a><br>
i found it so useful so i suggest everybody to implement it.<br>
it was so easy, i&#39;ve to patch just some parts of the code...<br>
the stuff works as written in the draft, but the draft does<br>
not say anything about what&#39;s the bier encapsulated join&#39;s<br>
destination ip address. i&#39;ve tried to leave it as is now,<br>
multicast, but then changed to unicast of the remote pe&#39;s<br>
loopback address. both versions works, but the latter helps<br>
the remote pe to distinguish between tunneled and normal<br>
pim joins, and helps to dispatch the tunneled join to the<br>
correct interface. imagine if the remote pe have more<br>
loopbacks in different bier domains...<br>
<br>
below you can see some proof that the stuff works...<br>
first the labels then one endpoint&#39;s mroute table<br>
and a dbeacon like app reporting 100% connectivity.<br>
lastly some packet debug. within the debugs,<br>
the rx followed by the tx(es) since this bsr have<br>
a lot of peers... the rxes with one bit set followed<br>
by just one tx are probably the pim joins...<br>
the others are the app&#39;s multicasted report packets.<br>
<br>
and finally, if anybody is interested in interop testing,<br>
feel free to email me...<br>
<br>
regards,<br>
cs<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
mchome-core#show mpls forwarding | include bier <br>
28651=C2=A0 =C2=A0inet:4=C2=A0 null=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0null=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 unlabelled=C2=A0 bier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A017919706<br>
28652=C2=A0 =C2=A0inet:4=C2=A0 null=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0null=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 unlabelled=C2=A0 bier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A00<br>
626691=C2=A0 inet:6=C2=A0 null=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0null=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 unlabelled=C2=A0 bier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0224627=
20<br>
626692=C2=A0 inet:6=C2=A0 null=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0null=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 unlabelled=C2=A0 bier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00<br>
<br>
mchome-core#show mpls forwarding 28651 <br>
category=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 value<br>
label=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A028651<br>
key=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A018-lsrp bier<br>
working=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0true<br>
forwarder=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0inet:4<br>
interface=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0null<br>
nexthop=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0null<br>
remote label=C2=A0 unlabelled<br>
need local=C2=A0 =C2=A0 false<br>
bier base=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A028651<br>
bier bsl=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3-256<br>
bier fwdr=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0inet:4<br>
bier peer=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A010.1.1.26 serial102 lab=3D819097 bit=3D25/221 =
msk=3D18000000201800000000000000<wbr>8020017c00004000007ea0c0000400<br>
bier peer=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A010.1.1.50 serial104 lab=3D655951 bit=3D2/170 m=
sk=3D20000000000000000000000000<wbr>00000000000001000<br>
bier peer=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A010.1.1.54 serial105 lab=3D825252 bit=3D1/12 ms=
k=3D800<br>
bier peer=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A010.1.1.58 serial101 lab=3D86168 bit=3D1/14 msk=
=3D2000<br>
bier peer=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A010.1.1.66 serial106 lab=3D657580 bit=3D28/88 m=
sk=3Dfe8000787600001fd94000<br>
bier peer=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A010.1.1.118 serial103 lab=3D220357 bit=3D1/22 m=
sk=3D200000<br>
pwe iface=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0null<br>
pwe del=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00<br>
pwe add=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0n/a<br>
counter=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0tx=3D0(0) rx=3D17930297(107814) drp=3D0(0=
)<br>
<br>
mchome-core#show mpls forwarding 626691 <br>
category=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 value<br>
label=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0626691<br>
key=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A018-lsrp bier<br>
working=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0true<br>
forwarder=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0inet:6<br>
interface=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0null<br>
nexthop=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0null<br>
remote label=C2=A0 unlabelled<br>
need local=C2=A0 =C2=A0 false<br>
bier base=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0626691<br>
bier bsl=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3-256<br>
bier fwdr=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0inet:6<br>
bier peer=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02001:db8:17::2 serial102 lab=3D564980 bit=3D25=
/221 msk=3D18000000201800000000000000<wbr>8020017c00004000007ea0c0000400<br=
>
bier peer=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02001:db8:1d::2 serial104 lab=3D732750 bit=3D2/=
170 msk=3D20000000000000000000000000<wbr>00000000000001000<br>
bier peer=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02001:db8:1f::2 serial105 lab=3D79127 bit=3D1/1=
2 msk=3D800<br>
bier peer=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02001:db8:22::2 serial101 lab=3D200913 bit=3D1/=
14 msk=3D2000<br>
bier peer=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02001:db8:2c::2 serial106 lab=3D395619 bit=3D28=
/88 msk=3Dfe8000787600001fd94000<br>
bier peer=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02001:db8:3a::2 serial103 lab=3D301581 bit=3D1/=
22 msk=3D200000<br>
pwe iface=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0null<br>
pwe del=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00<br>
pwe add=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0n/a<br>
counter=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0tx=3D0(0) rx=3D22484209(107927) drp=3D0(0=
)<br>
<br>
mchome-core#<br>
<br>
<br>
mchome-evpn#show ipv4 mroute inet <br>
source=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 group=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 i=
nterface=C2=A0 upstream=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 targets<br>
10.1.252.252=C2=A0 232.197.91.25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 10.1.1.117=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 local<br>
10.1.252.253=C2=A0 232.197.91.25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 10.1.1.117=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 local<br>
10.1.252.254=C2=A0 232.197.91.25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 10.1.1.117=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 local<br>
10.1.252.255=C2=A0 232.197.91.25=C2=A0 loopback0=C2=A0 10.1.252.255=C2=A0 l=
ocal bier<br>
10.4.4.254=C2=A0 =C2=A0 232.197.91.25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 10.1.1.117=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
10.10.10.3=C2=A0 =C2=A0 232.197.91.25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 10.1.1.117=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
10.10.10.12=C2=A0 =C2=A0232.197.91.25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 10.1.1.117=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
10.10.10.16=C2=A0 =C2=A0232.197.91.25=C2=A0 null=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
null=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
10.10.10.19=C2=A0 =C2=A0232.197.91.25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 10.1.1.117=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
10.10.10.88=C2=A0 =C2=A0232.197.91.25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 10.1.1.117=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
10.10.10.222=C2=A0 232.197.91.25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 10.1.1.117=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 local<br>
10.10.10.224=C2=A0 232.197.91.25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 10.1.1.117=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 local<br>
10.10.10.225=C2=A0 232.197.91.25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 10.1.1.117=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 local<br>
10.10.10.226=C2=A0 232.197.91.25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 10.1.1.117=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 local<br>
10.10.10.227=C2=A0 232.197.91.25=C2=A0 null=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0null=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
<br>
mchome-evpn#show ipv6 mroute inet <br>
source=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 group=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 interface=C2=A0 ups=
tream=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 targets<br>
2001:db8:1101::3=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ff09::232:197:91:25=C2=A0 seria=
l103=C2=A0 2001:db8:3a::1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
2001:db8:1101::12=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ff09::232:197:91:25=C2=A0 seria=
l103=C2=A0 2001:db8:3a::1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
2001:db8:1101::16=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ff09::232:197:91:25=C2=A0 null=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0null=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
2001:db8:1101::19=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ff09::232:197:91:25=C2=A0 seria=
l103=C2=A0 2001:db8:3a::1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
2001:db8:1101::88=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ff09::232:197:91:25=C2=A0 seria=
l103=C2=A0 2001:db8:3a::1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
2001:db8:1101::4254=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ff09::232:197:91:25=C2=A0 serial103=
=C2=A0 2001:db8:3a::1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
2001:db8:1101::222:222=C2=A0 ff09::232:197:91:25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 2001=
:db8:3a::1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
2001:db8:1101::224:224=C2=A0 ff09::232:197:91:25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 2001=
:db8:3a::1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
2001:db8:1101::225:225=C2=A0 ff09::232:197:91:25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 2001=
:db8:3a::1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
2001:db8:1101::226:226=C2=A0 ff09::232:197:91:25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 2001=
:db8:3a::1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
2001:db8:1101::227:227=C2=A0 ff09::232:197:91:25=C2=A0 null=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0null=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
2001:db8:1101::252:252=C2=A0 ff09::232:197:91:25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 2001=
:db8:3a::1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
2001:db8:1101::252:253=C2=A0 ff09::232:197:91:25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 2001=
:db8:3a::1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
2001:db8:1101::252:254=C2=A0 ff09::232:197:91:25=C2=A0 serial103=C2=A0 2001=
:db8:3a::1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 local<br>
2001:db8:1101::252:255=C2=A0 ff09::232:197:91:25=C2=A0 loopback0 2001:db8:1=
101::252:255=C2=A0 local bier<br>
<br>
mchome-evpn#show mtracker v4m <br>
name=3Dv4m, round=3D3485, group=3D232.197.91.25<br>
port=3D5488, timer=3D6666/6, ifc=3Difc loopback0<br>
peer#0: ip=3D10.1.252.252, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03 05:4=
3:06, heard=3D00:00:03, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D724496(3472) drp=3D0(0)<br=
>
peer#1: ip=3D10.1.252.253, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03 05:4=
4:19, heard=3D00:00:02, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D726184(3480) drp=3D0(0)<br=
>
peer#2: ip=3D10.1.252.254, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03 05:4=
3:06, heard=3D00:00:04, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D722583(3463) drp=3D0(0)<br=
>
peer#3: ip=3D10.1.252.255, state=3Dup, changes=3D1, since=3D2017-11-03 05:4=
2:02, heard=3D00:00:00, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D0(0) drp=3D0(0)<br>
peer#4: ip=3D10.4.4.254, state=3Dup, changes=3D5, since=3D2017-11-03 09:18:=
31, heard=3D00:00:01, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D689718(3446) drp=3D0(0)<br>
peer#5: ip=3D10.10.10.3, state=3Dup, changes=3D1, since=3D2017-11-03 05:42:=
09, heard=3D00:00:05, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D720267(3451) drp=3D0(0)<br>
peer#6: ip=3D10.10.10.12, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03 05:54=
:39, heard=3D00:00:03, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D720604(3452) drp=3D0(0)<br>
peer#7: ip=3D10.10.10.16, state=3Ddown, changes=3D0, since=3D1970-01-01 00:=
59:59, heard=3Dnever, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D0(0) drp=3D0(0)<br>
peer#8: ip=3D10.10.10.19, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03 05:51=
:19, heard=3D00:00:04, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D721634(3458) drp=3D0(0)<br>
peer#9: ip=3D10.10.10.88, state=3Dup, changes=3D1, since=3D2017-11-03 05:42=
:02, heard=3D00:00:00, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D726377(3481) drp=3D0(0)<br>
peer#10: ip=3D10.10.10.222, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03 05:=
43:26, heard=3D00:00:01, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D715267(3427) drp=3D0(0)<b=
r>
peer#11: ip=3D10.10.10.224, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03 06:=
00:59, heard=3D00:00:01, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D719753(3449) drp=3D0(0)<b=
r>
peer#12: ip=3D10.10.10.225, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03 06:=
00:53, heard=3D00:00:00, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D720990(3454) drp=3D0(0)<b=
r>
peer#13: ip=3D10.10.10.226, state=3Dup, changes=3D5, since=3D2017-11-03 09:=
21:44, heard=3D00:00:02, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D715539(3427) drp=3D0(0)<b=
r>
peer#14: ip=3D10.10.10.227, state=3Ddown, changes=3D0, since=3D1970-01-01 0=
0:59:59, heard=3Dnever, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D0(0) drp=3D0(0)<br>
<br>
\=C2=A0 =C2=A00=C2=A0 1=C2=A0 2=C2=A0 3=C2=A0 4=C2=A0 5=C2=A0 6=C2=A0 7=C2=
=A0 8=C2=A0 9=C2=A0 10=C2=A0 11=C2=A0 12=C2=A0 13=C2=A0 14<br>
0=C2=A0 =C2=A0\=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=
=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0-<br>
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=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0-<br>
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=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0-<br>
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=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0-<br>
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=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0-<br>
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=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0-<br>
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=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0-<br>
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=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 =C2=A0-=C2=A0 =C2=A0-=C2=A0 =C2=A0-=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0-<br>
8=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=
=A0 \=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0-<br>
9=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=
=A0 +=C2=A0 \=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0-<br>
10=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 +=
=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 \=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0-<br=
>
11=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 +=
=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 =C2=A0\=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0-<br=
>
12=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 +=
=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0\=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0-<br=
>
13=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 +=
=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0\=C2=A0 =C2=A0-<br=
>
14=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=
=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 =C2=A0-=C2=A0 =C2=A0-=C2=A0 =C2=A0-=C2=A0 =C2=A0\<br=
>
<br>
mchome-evpn#show mtracker v6m <br>
name=3Dv6m, round=3D3487, group=3Dff09::232:197:91:25<br>
port=3D5488, timer=3D6666/6, ifc=3Difc loopback0<br>
peer#0: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::3, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03 =
05:59:24, heard=3D00:00:00, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D722885(3461) drp=3D0(0=
)<br>
peer#1: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::12, state=3Dup, changes=3D1, since=3D2017-11-03=
 05:42:09, heard=3D00:00:02, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D719622(3446) drp=3D0(=
0)<br>
peer#2: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::16, state=3Ddown, changes=3D0, since=3D1970-01-=
01 00:59:59, heard=3Dnever, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D0(0) drp=3D0(0)<br>
peer#3: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::19, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03=
 05:51:19, heard=3D00:00:01, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D721149(3453) drp=3D0(=
0)<br>
peer#4: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::88, state=3Dup, changes=3D1, since=3D2017-11-03=
 05:42:16, heard=3D00:00:03, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D725393(3473) drp=3D0(=
0)<br>
peer#5: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::4254, state=3Dup, changes=3D5, since=3D2017-11-=
03 09:18:26, heard=3D00:00:01, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D719267(3443) drp=3D=
0(0)<br>
peer#6: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::222:222, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-=
11-03 05:43:39, heard=3D00:00:00, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D717322(3434) drp=
=3D0(0)<br>
peer#7: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::224:224, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-=
11-03 06:00:58, heard=3D00:00:05, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D721776(3456) drp=
=3D0(0)<br>
peer#8: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::225:225, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-=
11-03 06:00:58, heard=3D00:00:04, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D723255(3463) drp=
=3D0(0)<br>
peer#9: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::226:226, state=3Dup, changes=3D7, since=3D2017-=
11-03 09:21:46, heard=3D00:00:06, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D719268(3444) drp=
=3D0(0)<br>
peer#10: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::227:227, state=3Ddown, changes=3D0, since=3D19=
70-01-01 00:59:59, heard=3Dnever, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D0(0) drp=3D0(0)<=
br>
peer#11: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::252:252, state=3Dup, changes=3D1, since=3D2017=
-11-03 05:42:02, heard=3D00:00:06, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D724832(3472) dr=
p=3D0(0)<br>
peer#12: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::252:253, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017=
-11-03 05:44:19, heard=3D00:00:03, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D725571(3475) dr=
p=3D0(0)<br>
peer#13: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::252:254, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017=
-11-03 05:43:06, heard=3D00:00:02, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D724076(3468) dr=
p=3D0(0)<br>
peer#14: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::252:255, state=3Dup, changes=3D1, since=3D2017=
-11-03 05:42:02, heard=3D00:00:06, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D0(0) drp=3D0(0)=
<br>
<br>
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=A0 8=C2=A0 9=C2=A0 10=C2=A0 11=C2=A0 12=C2=A0 13=C2=A0 14<br>
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=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0+<br>
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=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0+<br>
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=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 =C2=A0-=C2=A0 =C2=A0-=C2=A0 =C2=A0-=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0-<br>
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=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0+<br>
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=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0+<br>
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=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0+<br>
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=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0+<br>
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=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0+<br>
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=A0 \=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0+<br>
9=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=
=A0 +=C2=A0 \=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0+<br>
10=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 -=
=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 \=C2=A0 =C2=A0-=C2=A0 =C2=A0-=C2=A0 =C2=A0-=C2=A0 =C2=A0-<br=
>
11=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=
=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 =C2=A0\=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+<br=
>
12=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=
=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0\=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+<br=
>
13=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=
=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0\=C2=A0 =C2=A0+<br=
>
14=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 +=
=C2=A0 +=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0+=C2=A0 =C2=A0\<br=
>
<br>
mchome-evpn#<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
mchome-core#debug mpls bier<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010e00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D23 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D200000000000000000800001700<wbr>000000000400080200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D23 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000000000000000800001700<wbr>000000000400080000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D23 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D93 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010e00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D93 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D93 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D120 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000010e00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D120 si=3D0 =
prt=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D120 si=3D0 =
prt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010e00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D120 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010e00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D120 si=3D0 =
prt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D120 si=3D0 =
prt=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D29 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D200000000000000000800001700<wbr>000000000400080200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D29 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000000000000000800001700<wbr>000000000400080000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D29 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010e00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 =
prt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 =
prt=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D29 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D200000000000000000800001700<wbr>000000000400080200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D29 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000000000000000800001700<wbr>000000000400080000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D29 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000010e00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D93 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000010e00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D93 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D93 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D22 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D200000000000000000800001708<wbr>000000000400090c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D22 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000000000000000800001700<wbr>000000000400080000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D22 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000010e00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D24 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D200000000000000000800001700<wbr>000000000400080200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D24 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000000000000000800001700<wbr>000000000400080000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D24 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010e00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010e00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000010e00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D88 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D200000000000000000800001700<wbr>000000000400080200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D88 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000000000000000800001700<wbr>000000000400080000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D88 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D22 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D200000000000000000800001708<wbr>000000000400090c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D22 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000000000000000800001700<wbr>000000000400080000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D22 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D24 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D200000000000000000800001700<wbr>000000000400080200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D24 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000000000000000800001700<wbr>000000000400080000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D24 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D88 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D200000000000000000800001700<wbr>000000000400080200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D88 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000000000000000800001700<wbr>000000000400080000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D88 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000010e00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 =
prt=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 =
prt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000010e00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010e00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000010e00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D23 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D200000000000000000800001700<wbr>000000000400080200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D23 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000000000000000800001700<wbr>000000000400080000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D23 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 pr=
t=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010e00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000010c00000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 =
prt=3D4 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 =
prt=3D4 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 =
prt=3D4 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 =
prt=3D4 bs=3D200000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 =
prt=3D4 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 =
prt=3D6 bs=3D8000000000000000000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 =
prt=3D6 bs=3D10000000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 =
prt=3D6 bs=3D800000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMp<wbr>ls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 p=
rt=3D6 bs=3D400000<br>
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipM<wbr>pls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 =
prt=3D6 bs=3D400000<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div></div>

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Thanks for feedback.=20

Your comment on changing the PIM destination IP to loopback of ebbr is inte=
resting and I like to explore it farther.

Can you elaborate on the advantage of distinguishing between tunneled PIM s=
ignaling packets (arriving from BIER domain) and normal PIM (packets arrivi=
ng from PIM domain)? =20

As of now we did not consider changing the PIM destination, the idea is the=
 BIER header would give the clear indication of the PIM packet being arrive=
d from the BIER domain.

But it could be very well that we need clear identification of this in the =
PIM module...

Thanks in advance

Regards

Hooman



-----Original Message-----
From: BIER [mailto:bier-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of matecs
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 7:16 AM
To: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>
Cc: bier@ietf.org
Subject: [Bier] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hfa-bier-pim-signali=
ng/ - ex Re: clarification in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bier-a=
rchitecture-08

hi,

On 10/30/2017 03:31 PM, Alia Atlas wrote:
> Thanks for letting us know that you are developing bier for=20
> freerouter.nop.hu <http://freerouter.nop.hu>.
> I am expecting a number of other relevant drafts to be progressing out=20
> of the BIER WG soon - so this would be a really excellent time to read=20
> through and provide feedback.
sorry to bother you again, i swear this will be my last mail for a long
time:)
so i've finished my forwarding part and also done pim-bier interworking, es=
pecially this draft:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hfa-bier-pim-signaling/
i found it so useful so i suggest everybody to implement it.
it was so easy, i've to patch just some parts of the code...
the stuff works as written in the draft, but the draft does not say anythin=
g about what's the bier encapsulated join's destination ip address. i've tr=
ied to leave it as is now, multicast, but then changed to unicast of the re=
mote pe's loopback address. both versions works, but the latter helps the r=
emote pe to distinguish between tunneled and normal pim joins, and helps to=
 dispatch the tunneled join to the correct interface. imagine if the remote=
 pe have more loopbacks in different bier domains...

below you can see some proof that the stuff works...
first the labels then one endpoint's mroute table and a dbeacon like app re=
porting 100% connectivity.
lastly some packet debug. within the debugs, the rx followed by the tx(es) =
since this bsr have a lot of peers... the rxes with one bit set followed by=
 just one tx are probably the pim joins...
the others are the app's multicasted report packets.

and finally, if anybody is interested in interop testing, feel free to emai=
l me...

regards,
cs



mchome-core#show mpls forwarding | include bier=20

28651   inet:4  null       null            unlabelled  bier     17919706
28652   inet:4  null       null            unlabelled  bier     0
626691  inet:6  null       null            unlabelled  bier     22462720
626692  inet:6  null       null            unlabelled  bier     0

mchome-core#show mpls forwarding 28651=20

category      value
label         28651
key           18-lsrp bier
working       true
forwarder     inet:4
interface     null
nexthop       null
remote label  unlabelled
need local    false
bier base     28651
bier bsl      3-256
bier fwdr     inet:4
bier peer     10.1.1.26 serial102 lab=3D819097 bit=3D25/221=20
msk=3D180000002018000000000000008020017c00004000007ea0c0000400
bier peer     10.1.1.50 serial104 lab=3D655951 bit=3D2/170=20
msk=3D2000000000000000000000000000000000000001000
bier peer     10.1.1.54 serial105 lab=3D825252 bit=3D1/12 msk=3D800
bier peer     10.1.1.58 serial101 lab=3D86168 bit=3D1/14 msk=3D2000
bier peer     10.1.1.66 serial106 lab=3D657580 bit=3D28/88=20
msk=3Dfe8000787600001fd94000
bier peer     10.1.1.118 serial103 lab=3D220357 bit=3D1/22 msk=3D200000
pwe iface     null
pwe del       0
pwe add       n/a
counter       tx=3D0(0) rx=3D17930297(107814) drp=3D0(0)

mchome-core#show mpls forwarding 626691=20

category      value
label         626691
key           18-lsrp bier
working       true
forwarder     inet:6
interface     null
nexthop       null
remote label  unlabelled
need local    false
bier base     626691
bier bsl      3-256
bier fwdr     inet:6
bier peer     2001:db8:17::2 serial102 lab=3D564980 bit=3D25/221=20
msk=3D180000002018000000000000008020017c00004000007ea0c0000400
bier peer     2001:db8:1d::2 serial104 lab=3D732750 bit=3D2/170=20
msk=3D2000000000000000000000000000000000000001000
bier peer     2001:db8:1f::2 serial105 lab=3D79127 bit=3D1/12 msk=3D800
bier peer     2001:db8:22::2 serial101 lab=3D200913 bit=3D1/14 msk=3D2000
bier peer     2001:db8:2c::2 serial106 lab=3D395619 bit=3D28/88=20
msk=3Dfe8000787600001fd94000
bier peer     2001:db8:3a::2 serial103 lab=3D301581 bit=3D1/22 msk=3D200000
pwe iface     null
pwe del       0
pwe add       n/a
counter       tx=3D0(0) rx=3D22484209(107927) drp=3D0(0)

mchome-core#


mchome-evpn#show ipv4 mroute inet=20

source        group          interface  upstream      targets
10.1.252.252  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.1.252.253  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.1.252.254  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.1.252.255  232.197.91.25  loopback0  10.1.252.255  local bier
10.4.4.254    232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.10.10.3    232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.10.10.12   232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.10.10.16   232.197.91.25  null       null          local
10.10.10.19   232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.10.10.88   232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.10.10.222  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.10.10.224  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.10.10.225  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.10.10.226  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
10.10.10.227  232.197.91.25  null       null          local

mchome-evpn#show ipv6 mroute inet=20

source                  group                interface  upstream=20
        targets
2001:db8:1101::3        ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1=20
        local
2001:db8:1101::12       ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1=20
        local
2001:db8:1101::16       ff09::232:197:91:25  null       null=20
        local
2001:db8:1101::19       ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1=20
        local
2001:db8:1101::88       ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1=20
        local
2001:db8:1101::4254     ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1=20
        local
2001:db8:1101::222:222  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1=20
        local
2001:db8:1101::224:224  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1=20
        local
2001:db8:1101::225:225  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1=20
        local
2001:db8:1101::226:226  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1=20
        local
2001:db8:1101::227:227  ff09::232:197:91:25  null       null=20
        local
2001:db8:1101::252:252  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1=20
        local
2001:db8:1101::252:253  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1=20
        local
2001:db8:1101::252:254  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1=20
        local
2001:db8:1101::252:255  ff09::232:197:91:25  loopback0
2001:db8:1101::252:255  local bier

mchome-evpn#show mtracker v4m=20

name=3Dv4m, round=3D3485, group=3D232.197.91.25 port=3D5488, timer=3D6666/6=
, ifc=3Difc loopback0
peer#0: ip=3D10.1.252.252, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03 05:4=
3:06, heard=3D00:00:03, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D724496(3472) drp=3D0(0)
peer#1: ip=3D10.1.252.253, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03 05:4=
4:19, heard=3D00:00:02, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D726184(3480) drp=3D0(0)
peer#2: ip=3D10.1.252.254, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03 05:4=
3:06, heard=3D00:00:04, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D722583(3463) drp=3D0(0)
peer#3: ip=3D10.1.252.255, state=3Dup, changes=3D1, since=3D2017-11-03 05:4=
2:02, heard=3D00:00:00, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D0(0) drp=3D0(0)
peer#4: ip=3D10.4.4.254, state=3Dup, changes=3D5, since=3D2017-11-03 09:18:=
31, heard=3D00:00:01, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D689718(3446) drp=3D0(0)
peer#5: ip=3D10.10.10.3, state=3Dup, changes=3D1, since=3D2017-11-03 05:42:=
09, heard=3D00:00:05, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D720267(3451) drp=3D0(0)
peer#6: ip=3D10.10.10.12, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03 05:54=
:39, heard=3D00:00:03, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D720604(3452) drp=3D0(0)
peer#7: ip=3D10.10.10.16, state=3Ddown, changes=3D0, since=3D1970-01-01 00:=
59:59, heard=3Dnever, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D0(0) drp=3D0(0)
peer#8: ip=3D10.10.10.19, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03 05:51=
:19, heard=3D00:00:04, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D721634(3458) drp=3D0(0)
peer#9: ip=3D10.10.10.88, state=3Dup, changes=3D1, since=3D2017-11-03 05:42=
:02, heard=3D00:00:00, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D726377(3481) drp=3D0(0)
peer#10: ip=3D10.10.10.222, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03 05:=
43:26, heard=3D00:00:01, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D715267(3427) drp=3D0(0)
peer#11: ip=3D10.10.10.224, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03 06:=
00:59, heard=3D00:00:01, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D719753(3449) drp=3D0(0)
peer#12: ip=3D10.10.10.225, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03 06:=
00:53, heard=3D00:00:00, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D720990(3454) drp=3D0(0)
peer#13: ip=3D10.10.10.226, state=3Dup, changes=3D5, since=3D2017-11-03 09:=
21:44, heard=3D00:00:02, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D715539(3427) drp=3D0(0)
peer#14: ip=3D10.10.10.227, state=3Ddown, changes=3D0, since=3D1970-01-01 0=
0:59:59, heard=3Dnever, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D0(0) drp=3D0(0)

\   0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12  13  14
0   \  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
1   +  \  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
2   +  +  \  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
3   +  +  +  \  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
4   +  +  +  +  \  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
5   +  +  +  +  +  \  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
6   +  +  +  +  +  +  \  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
7   -  -  -  -  -  -  -  \  -  -  -   -   -   -   -
8   +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  \  +  +   +   +   +   -
9   +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  \  +   +   +   +   -
10  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  \   +   +   +   -
11  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   \   +   +   -
12  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   \   +   -
13  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   \   -
14  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -   -   -   -   \

mchome-evpn#show mtracker v6m=20

name=3Dv6m, round=3D3487, group=3Dff09::232:197:91:25 port=3D5488, timer=3D=
6666/6, ifc=3Difc loopback0
peer#0: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::3, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03 =
05:59:24, heard=3D00:00:00, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D722885(3461) drp=3D0(0=
)
peer#1: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::12, state=3Dup, changes=3D1, since=3D2017-11-03=
 05:42:09, heard=3D00:00:02, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D719622(3446) drp=3D0(=
0)
peer#2: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::16, state=3Ddown, changes=3D0, since=3D1970-01-=
01 00:59:59, heard=3Dnever, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D0(0) drp=3D0(0)
peer#3: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::19, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-11-03=
 05:51:19, heard=3D00:00:01, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D721149(3453) drp=3D0(=
0)
peer#4: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::88, state=3Dup, changes=3D1, since=3D2017-11-03=
 05:42:16, heard=3D00:00:03, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D725393(3473) drp=3D0(=
0)
peer#5: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::4254, state=3Dup, changes=3D5, since=3D2017-11-=
03 09:18:26, heard=3D00:00:01, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D719267(3443) drp=3D=
0(0)
peer#6: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::222:222, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-=
11-03 05:43:39, heard=3D00:00:00, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D717322(3434) drp=
=3D0(0)
peer#7: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::224:224, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-=
11-03 06:00:58, heard=3D00:00:05, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D721776(3456) drp=
=3D0(0)
peer#8: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::225:225, state=3Dup, changes=3D3, since=3D2017-=
11-03 06:00:58, heard=3D00:00:04, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D723255(3463) drp=
=3D0(0)
peer#9: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::226:226, state=3Dup, changes=3D7, since=3D2017-=
11-03 09:21:46, heard=3D00:00:06, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D719268(3444) drp=
=3D0(0)
peer#10: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::227:227, state=3Ddown, changes=3D0,
since=3D1970-01-01 00:59:59, heard=3Dnever, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D0(0) d=
rp=3D0(0)
peer#11: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::252:252, state=3Dup, changes=3D1,
since=3D2017-11-03 05:42:02, heard=3D00:00:06, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0)
rx=3D724832(3472) drp=3D0(0)
peer#12: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::252:253, state=3Dup, changes=3D3,
since=3D2017-11-03 05:44:19, heard=3D00:00:03, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0)
rx=3D725571(3475) drp=3D0(0)
peer#13: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::252:254, state=3Dup, changes=3D3,
since=3D2017-11-03 05:43:06, heard=3D00:00:02, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0)
rx=3D724076(3468) drp=3D0(0)
peer#14: ip=3D2001:db8:1101::252:255, state=3Dup, changes=3D1,
since=3D2017-11-03 05:42:02, heard=3D00:00:06, counter=3Dtx=3D0(0) rx=3D0(0=
) drp=3D0(0)

\   0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12  13  14
0   \  +  -  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -   +   +   +   +
1   +  \  -  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -   +   +   +   +
2   -  -  \  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -   -   -   -   -
3   +  +  -  \  +  +  +  +  +  +  -   +   +   +   +
4   +  +  -  +  \  +  +  +  +  +  -   +   +   +   +
5   +  +  -  +  +  \  +  +  +  +  -   +   +   +   +
6   +  +  -  +  +  +  \  +  +  +  -   +   +   +   +
7   +  +  -  +  +  +  +  \  +  +  -   +   +   +   +
8   +  +  -  +  +  +  +  +  \  +  -   +   +   +   +
9   +  +  -  +  +  +  +  +  +  \  -   +   +   +   +
10  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  \   -   -   -   -
11  +  +  -  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -   \   +   +   +
12  +  +  -  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -   +   \   +   +
13  +  +  -  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -   +   +   \   +
14  +  +  -  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -   +   +   +   \

mchome-evpn#



mchome-core#debug mpls bier
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D23 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D23 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D23 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D93 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D93 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D93 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D120 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D120 si=3D0 prt=
=3D4
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D120 si=3D0 prt=
=3D4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D120 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D120 si=3D0 prt=
=3D6
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D120 si=3D0 prt=
=3D6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D29 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D29 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D29 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=
=3D6
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=
=3D6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D29 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D29 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D29 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D93 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D93 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D93 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D22 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D200000000000000000800001708000000000400090c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D22 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D22 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D24 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D24 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D24 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D88 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D88 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D88 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D22 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D200000000000000000800001708000000000400090c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D22 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D22 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D24 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D24 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D24 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D88 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D88 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D88 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=
=3D4
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=
=3D4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D97 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D47 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D95 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D23 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D23 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D23 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D4
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D94 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D6
bs=3D8000000000000010e00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D8000000000000010c00000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D32 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=
=3D4
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=
=3D4
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=
=3D4
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=
=3D4
bs=3D200000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=3D=
4
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=
=3D4
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=
=3D6
bs=3D8000000000000000000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=
=3D6
bs=3D10000000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=
=3D6
bs=3D800000
debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=3D=
6
bs=3D400000
debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=3D190 si=3D0 prt=
=3D6
bs=3D400000

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Subject: Re: [Bier] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hfa-bier-pim-signaling/ - ex Re: clarification in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bier-architecture-08
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hi,
so think about two different bier domains at an asbr.
one is over igp1, the other is over igp2.
the asbr is there to interconnect the domains.

that is clear that the fact that the pim join came
in as bier encapsulated indicates that ihe asbr
have to deal with it. anyway i do not suggest
to do it other ways, so keep the requirement
to bier encap the tunneled joins - just set
the destination to the loopback ip.

because further processing of the pim packet have to
find out the bier domain, where the join came from.
this is where unicasting comes in: one can set up
lo1 for igp1 and lo2 for igp2, and pim can simply
guess the domain based on which interface was
addressed.
bfir (or bit set in bitstring) in the bier header
is useless since there could be collisions between
the domains.
source ip is another option, but that may or may not
have bfr id advertised to.
and the last one is the ingress interface of the bier
packet, but in the arch, it is said that bier domain
not have to be contiguous, so there may be
bier-on-the-stick implementations, so this is also
not 100% solution.

regards,
cs








On 11/03/2017 02:29 PM, Bidgoli, Hooman (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) wrote:
> Thanks for feedback.
> 
> Your comment on changing the PIM destination IP to loopback of ebbr is interesting and I like to explore it farther.
> 
> Can you elaborate on the advantage of distinguishing between tunneled PIM signaling packets (arriving from BIER domain) and normal PIM (packets arriving from PIM domain)?
> 
> As of now we did not consider changing the PIM destination, the idea is the BIER header would give the clear indication of the PIM packet being arrived from the BIER domain.
> 
> But it could be very well that we need clear identification of this in the PIM module...
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Regards
> 
> Hooman
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BIER [mailto:bier-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of matecs
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 7:16 AM
> To: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>
> Cc: bier@ietf.org
> Subject: [Bier] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hfa-bier-pim-signaling/ - ex Re: clarification in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bier-architecture-08
> 
> hi,
> 
> On 10/30/2017 03:31 PM, Alia Atlas wrote:
>> Thanks for letting us know that you are developing bier for
>> freerouter.nop.hu <http://freerouter.nop.hu>.
>> I am expecting a number of other relevant drafts to be progressing out
>> of the BIER WG soon - so this would be a really excellent time to read
>> through and provide feedback.
> sorry to bother you again, i swear this will be my last mail for a long
> time:)
> so i've finished my forwarding part and also done pim-bier interworking, especially this draft:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hfa-bier-pim-signaling/
> i found it so useful so i suggest everybody to implement it.
> it was so easy, i've to patch just some parts of the code...
> the stuff works as written in the draft, but the draft does not say anything about what's the bier encapsulated join's destination ip address. i've tried to leave it as is now, multicast, but then changed to unicast of the remote pe's loopback address. both versions works, but the latter helps the remote pe to distinguish between tunneled and normal pim joins, and helps to dispatch the tunneled join to the correct interface. imagine if the remote pe have more loopbacks in different bier domains...
> 
> below you can see some proof that the stuff works...
> first the labels then one endpoint's mroute table and a dbeacon like app reporting 100% connectivity.
> lastly some packet debug. within the debugs, the rx followed by the tx(es) since this bsr have a lot of peers... the rxes with one bit set followed by just one tx are probably the pim joins...
> the others are the app's multicasted report packets.
> 
> and finally, if anybody is interested in interop testing, feel free to email me...
> 
> regards,
> cs
> 
> 
> 
> mchome-core#show mpls forwarding | include bier
> 
> 28651   inet:4  null       null            unlabelled  bier     17919706
> 28652   inet:4  null       null            unlabelled  bier     0
> 626691  inet:6  null       null            unlabelled  bier     22462720
> 626692  inet:6  null       null            unlabelled  bier     0
> 
> mchome-core#show mpls forwarding 28651
> 
> category      value
> label         28651
> key           18-lsrp bier
> working       true
> forwarder     inet:4
> interface     null
> nexthop       null
> remote label  unlabelled
> need local    false
> bier base     28651
> bier bsl      3-256
> bier fwdr     inet:4
> bier peer     10.1.1.26 serial102 lab=819097 bit=25/221
> msk=180000002018000000000000008020017c00004000007ea0c0000400
> bier peer     10.1.1.50 serial104 lab=655951 bit=2/170
> msk=2000000000000000000000000000000000000001000
> bier peer     10.1.1.54 serial105 lab=825252 bit=1/12 msk=800
> bier peer     10.1.1.58 serial101 lab=86168 bit=1/14 msk=2000
> bier peer     10.1.1.66 serial106 lab=657580 bit=28/88
> msk=fe8000787600001fd94000
> bier peer     10.1.1.118 serial103 lab=220357 bit=1/22 msk=200000
> pwe iface     null
> pwe del       0
> pwe add       n/a
> counter       tx=0(0) rx=17930297(107814) drp=0(0)
> 
> mchome-core#show mpls forwarding 626691
> 
> category      value
> label         626691
> key           18-lsrp bier
> working       true
> forwarder     inet:6
> interface     null
> nexthop       null
> remote label  unlabelled
> need local    false
> bier base     626691
> bier bsl      3-256
> bier fwdr     inet:6
> bier peer     2001:db8:17::2 serial102 lab=564980 bit=25/221
> msk=180000002018000000000000008020017c00004000007ea0c0000400
> bier peer     2001:db8:1d::2 serial104 lab=732750 bit=2/170
> msk=2000000000000000000000000000000000000001000
> bier peer     2001:db8:1f::2 serial105 lab=79127 bit=1/12 msk=800
> bier peer     2001:db8:22::2 serial101 lab=200913 bit=1/14 msk=2000
> bier peer     2001:db8:2c::2 serial106 lab=395619 bit=28/88
> msk=fe8000787600001fd94000
> bier peer     2001:db8:3a::2 serial103 lab=301581 bit=1/22 msk=200000
> pwe iface     null
> pwe del       0
> pwe add       n/a
> counter       tx=0(0) rx=22484209(107927) drp=0(0)
> 
> mchome-core#
> 
> 
> mchome-evpn#show ipv4 mroute inet
> 
> source        group          interface  upstream      targets
> 10.1.252.252  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.1.252.253  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.1.252.254  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.1.252.255  232.197.91.25  loopback0  10.1.252.255  local bier
> 10.4.4.254    232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.10.10.3    232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.10.10.12   232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.10.10.16   232.197.91.25  null       null          local
> 10.10.10.19   232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.10.10.88   232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.10.10.222  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.10.10.224  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.10.10.225  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.10.10.226  232.197.91.25  serial103  10.1.1.117    local
> 10.10.10.227  232.197.91.25  null       null          local
> 
> mchome-evpn#show ipv6 mroute inet
> 
> source                  group                interface  upstream
>          targets
> 2001:db8:1101::3        ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>          local
> 2001:db8:1101::12       ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>          local
> 2001:db8:1101::16       ff09::232:197:91:25  null       null
>          local
> 2001:db8:1101::19       ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>          local
> 2001:db8:1101::88       ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>          local
> 2001:db8:1101::4254     ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>          local
> 2001:db8:1101::222:222  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>          local
> 2001:db8:1101::224:224  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>          local
> 2001:db8:1101::225:225  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>          local
> 2001:db8:1101::226:226  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>          local
> 2001:db8:1101::227:227  ff09::232:197:91:25  null       null
>          local
> 2001:db8:1101::252:252  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>          local
> 2001:db8:1101::252:253  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>          local
> 2001:db8:1101::252:254  ff09::232:197:91:25  serial103  2001:db8:3a::1
>          local
> 2001:db8:1101::252:255  ff09::232:197:91:25  loopback0
> 2001:db8:1101::252:255  local bier
> 
> mchome-evpn#show mtracker v4m
> 
> name=v4m, round=3485, group=232.197.91.25 port=5488, timer=6666/6, ifc=ifc loopback0
> peer#0: ip=10.1.252.252, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:43:06, heard=00:00:03, counter=tx=0(0) rx=724496(3472) drp=0(0)
> peer#1: ip=10.1.252.253, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:44:19, heard=00:00:02, counter=tx=0(0) rx=726184(3480) drp=0(0)
> peer#2: ip=10.1.252.254, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:43:06, heard=00:00:04, counter=tx=0(0) rx=722583(3463) drp=0(0)
> peer#3: ip=10.1.252.255, state=up, changes=1, since=2017-11-03 05:42:02, heard=00:00:00, counter=tx=0(0) rx=0(0) drp=0(0)
> peer#4: ip=10.4.4.254, state=up, changes=5, since=2017-11-03 09:18:31, heard=00:00:01, counter=tx=0(0) rx=689718(3446) drp=0(0)
> peer#5: ip=10.10.10.3, state=up, changes=1, since=2017-11-03 05:42:09, heard=00:00:05, counter=tx=0(0) rx=720267(3451) drp=0(0)
> peer#6: ip=10.10.10.12, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:54:39, heard=00:00:03, counter=tx=0(0) rx=720604(3452) drp=0(0)
> peer#7: ip=10.10.10.16, state=down, changes=0, since=1970-01-01 00:59:59, heard=never, counter=tx=0(0) rx=0(0) drp=0(0)
> peer#8: ip=10.10.10.19, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:51:19, heard=00:00:04, counter=tx=0(0) rx=721634(3458) drp=0(0)
> peer#9: ip=10.10.10.88, state=up, changes=1, since=2017-11-03 05:42:02, heard=00:00:00, counter=tx=0(0) rx=726377(3481) drp=0(0)
> peer#10: ip=10.10.10.222, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:43:26, heard=00:00:01, counter=tx=0(0) rx=715267(3427) drp=0(0)
> peer#11: ip=10.10.10.224, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 06:00:59, heard=00:00:01, counter=tx=0(0) rx=719753(3449) drp=0(0)
> peer#12: ip=10.10.10.225, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 06:00:53, heard=00:00:00, counter=tx=0(0) rx=720990(3454) drp=0(0)
> peer#13: ip=10.10.10.226, state=up, changes=5, since=2017-11-03 09:21:44, heard=00:00:02, counter=tx=0(0) rx=715539(3427) drp=0(0)
> peer#14: ip=10.10.10.227, state=down, changes=0, since=1970-01-01 00:59:59, heard=never, counter=tx=0(0) rx=0(0) drp=0(0)
> 
> \   0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12  13  14
> 0   \  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
> 1   +  \  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
> 2   +  +  \  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
> 3   +  +  +  \  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
> 4   +  +  +  +  \  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
> 5   +  +  +  +  +  \  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
> 6   +  +  +  +  +  +  \  -  +  +  +   +   +   +   -
> 7   -  -  -  -  -  -  -  \  -  -  -   -   -   -   -
> 8   +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  \  +  +   +   +   +   -
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> 11  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   \   +   +   -
> 12  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   \   +   -
> 13  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -  +  +  +   +   +   \   -
> 14  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -   -   -   -   \
> 
> mchome-evpn#show mtracker v6m
> 
> name=v6m, round=3487, group=ff09::232:197:91:25 port=5488, timer=6666/6, ifc=ifc loopback0
> peer#0: ip=2001:db8:1101::3, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:59:24, heard=00:00:00, counter=tx=0(0) rx=722885(3461) drp=0(0)
> peer#1: ip=2001:db8:1101::12, state=up, changes=1, since=2017-11-03 05:42:09, heard=00:00:02, counter=tx=0(0) rx=719622(3446) drp=0(0)
> peer#2: ip=2001:db8:1101::16, state=down, changes=0, since=1970-01-01 00:59:59, heard=never, counter=tx=0(0) rx=0(0) drp=0(0)
> peer#3: ip=2001:db8:1101::19, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:51:19, heard=00:00:01, counter=tx=0(0) rx=721149(3453) drp=0(0)
> peer#4: ip=2001:db8:1101::88, state=up, changes=1, since=2017-11-03 05:42:16, heard=00:00:03, counter=tx=0(0) rx=725393(3473) drp=0(0)
> peer#5: ip=2001:db8:1101::4254, state=up, changes=5, since=2017-11-03 09:18:26, heard=00:00:01, counter=tx=0(0) rx=719267(3443) drp=0(0)
> peer#6: ip=2001:db8:1101::222:222, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 05:43:39, heard=00:00:00, counter=tx=0(0) rx=717322(3434) drp=0(0)
> peer#7: ip=2001:db8:1101::224:224, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 06:00:58, heard=00:00:05, counter=tx=0(0) rx=721776(3456) drp=0(0)
> peer#8: ip=2001:db8:1101::225:225, state=up, changes=3, since=2017-11-03 06:00:58, heard=00:00:04, counter=tx=0(0) rx=723255(3463) drp=0(0)
> peer#9: ip=2001:db8:1101::226:226, state=up, changes=7, since=2017-11-03 09:21:46, heard=00:00:06, counter=tx=0(0) rx=719268(3444) drp=0(0)
> peer#10: ip=2001:db8:1101::227:227, state=down, changes=0,
> since=1970-01-01 00:59:59, heard=never, counter=tx=0(0) rx=0(0) drp=0(0)
> peer#11: ip=2001:db8:1101::252:252, state=up, changes=1,
> since=2017-11-03 05:42:02, heard=00:00:06, counter=tx=0(0)
> rx=724832(3472) drp=0(0)
> peer#12: ip=2001:db8:1101::252:253, state=up, changes=3,
> since=2017-11-03 05:44:19, heard=00:00:03, counter=tx=0(0)
> rx=725571(3475) drp=0(0)
> peer#13: ip=2001:db8:1101::252:254, state=up, changes=3,
> since=2017-11-03 05:43:06, heard=00:00:02, counter=tx=0(0)
> rx=724076(3468) drp=0(0)
> peer#14: ip=2001:db8:1101::252:255, state=up, changes=1,
> since=2017-11-03 05:42:02, heard=00:00:06, counter=tx=0(0) rx=0(0) drp=0(0)
> 
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> 2   -  -  \  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -   -   -   -   -
> 3   +  +  -  \  +  +  +  +  +  +  -   +   +   +   +
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> 6   +  +  -  +  +  +  \  +  +  +  -   +   +   +   +
> 7   +  +  -  +  +  +  +  \  +  +  -   +   +   +   +
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> 14  +  +  -  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  -   +   +   +   \
> 
> mchome-evpn#
> 
> 
> 
> mchome-core#debug mpls bier
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=23 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=23 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=23 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=93 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=93 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=93 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=120 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=120 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=120 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=120 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=120 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=120 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=29 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=29 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=29 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=29 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=29 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=29 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=93 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=93 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=93 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=22 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001708000000000400090c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=22 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=22 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=24 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=24 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=24 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=88 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=88 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=88 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=22 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001708000000000400090c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=22 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=22 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=24 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=24 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=24 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=88 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=88 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=88 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=97 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=47 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=95 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=23 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=23 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000000000000000800001700000000000400080000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=23 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=94 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010e00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000010c00000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=32 si=0 prt=6
> bs=200000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=800000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
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> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
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> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
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> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=4
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
> bs=8000000000000000000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
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> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
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> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
> bs=10000000
> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
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> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
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> debug ip.ipMpls.parseBIERheader:ipMpls.java:281 rx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
> bs=400000
> debug ip.ipMpls.createBIERheader:ipMpls.java:294 tx bfir=190 si=0 prt=6
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Agenda updated with a couple corrections. Please review:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/

Thanks,
Greg


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> all looks good. My, we busy, lots interesting topics ;-)
>
> --- tony
>
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The BIER agenda has been uploaded. Please review and let me know of any
>> corrections, additions, etc.
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Greg
>> (Chairs)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Why stop @ 100, BIER is 10x ;-)
>>>
>>> Seriously though, please submit agenda for IETF 100 Singapore BIER
>>> session
>>>
>>> looking forward to see you all there ...
>>>
>>> --- tony
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er/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/</a><br></div><div><b=
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, Tony Przygienda <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tonysietf@gmail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">tonysietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockqu=
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ail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">On Thu, Nov 2, 2=
017 at 8:33 AM, Greg Shepherd <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gjshe=
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>The BIER agenda has been uploaded. Please review and let me know of any co=
rrections, additions, etc.<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://datatracke=
r.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf=
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v><div>Greg</div><div>(Chairs)</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:07=
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Hi Greg,
I couldn't find draft-hu-bier-bfd being on agenda. Would appreciate if WG
Chairs would kindly consider granting a presentation slot:
draft-hu-bier-bfd  presenter - Fangwei Hu 10 min

Regards,
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>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> all looks good. My, we busy, lots interesting topics ;-)
>>
>> --- tony
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The BIER agenda has been uploaded. Please review and let me know of any
>>> corrections, additions, etc.
>>>
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greg
>>> (Chairs)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why stop @ 100, BIER is 10x ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Seriously though, please submit agenda for IETF 100 Singapore BIER
>>>> session
>>>>
>>>> looking forward to see you all there ...
>>>>
>>>> --- tony
>>>>
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 Hu 10 min<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Greg</div></div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 3, 20=
17 at 8:24 AM, Greg Shepherd <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gjshep=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gjshep@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Agenda updated with a couple c=
orrections. Please review:<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://datatracke=
r.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf=
.org/<wbr>doc/agenda-100-bier/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</di=
v><div>Greg</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h=
5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 2,=
 2017 at 9:09 AM, Tony Przygienda <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:t=
onysietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tonysietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">all looks good. My,=
 we busy, lots interesting topics ;-)=C2=A0<span class=3D"m_614057523258564=
5251HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>--- tony=C2=A0</div=
></font></span></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><span>On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Greg Shepherd <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gjshep@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gjshep@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><div><div class=3D"m_6140575232585645251h5">=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">The BIER agenda has been up=
loaded. Please review and let me know of any corrections, additions, etc.<d=
iv><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bi=
er/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/d<wbr>oc/agenda-100-bie=
r/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Greg</div><div>(Chair=
s)</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><span>On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Tony Przygienda <span d=
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sly though, please submit agenda for IETF 100 Singapore BIER session=C2=A0<=
/div><div><br></div><div>looking forward to see you all there ...=C2=A0</di=
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> sorry to bother you again, i swear this will be my last mail for a long
> time:)
>

That's probably the _last_ thing we want you to do ... Fire away as much
you desire, Csaba. It's excellent we have open source BIER work going on
and "I implemented it and how's that supposed to work now?" is
significantly more important than bunch of "I have an idea for BIER" drafts
@ this point in time ...

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sorry to bother you again, i swear this will be my last mail for a long tim=
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I'll add it.

Greg

On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Greg,
> I couldn't find draft-hu-bier-bfd being on agenda. Would appreciate if WG
> Chairs would kindly consider granting a presentation slot:
> draft-hu-bier-bfd  presenter - Fangwei Hu 10 min
>
> Regards,
> Greg
>
> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Agenda updated with a couple corrections. Please review:
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> all looks good. My, we busy, lots interesting topics ;-)
>>>
>>> --- tony
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The BIER agenda has been uploaded. Please review and let me know of any
>>>> corrections, additions, etc.
>>>>
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Greg
>>>> (Chairs)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why stop @ 100, BIER is 10x ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously though, please submit agenda for IETF 100 Singapore BIER
>>>>> session
>>>>>
>>>>> looking forward to see you all there ...
>>>>>
>>>>> --- tony
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r-bfd=C2=A0 presenter - Fangwei Hu 10 min<br></div><div><br></div><div>Rega=
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t 8:24 AM, Greg Shepherd <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gjshep@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">gjshep@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Agenda updated with a couple corre=
ctions. Please review:<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ie=
tf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org=
/d<wbr>oc/agenda-100-bier/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><d=
iv>Greg</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"m_6155924997613345019HOEnZb=
"><div class=3D"m_6155924997613345019h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Tony Przygienda <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tonysietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>tonysietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
"><div dir=3D"ltr">all looks good. My, we busy, lots interesting topics ;-)=
=C2=A0<span class=3D"m_6155924997613345019m_6140575232585645251HOEnZb"><fon=
t color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>--- tony=C2=A0</div></font></span><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Thu=
, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Greg Shepherd <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:gjshep@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gjshep@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br></span><div><div class=3D"m_6155924997613345019m_614057523258564525=
1h5"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">The BIER agenda has be=
en uploaded. Please review and let me know of any corrections, additions, e=
tc.<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-1=
00-bier/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/d<wbr>oc/agenda-10=
0-bier/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Greg</div><div>(=
Chairs)</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Tony Przygienda <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tonysietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank=
">tonysietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"m_6155924997613345019m_6140575232585645251m_78=
81104297646211030h5"><div dir=3D"ltr">Why stop @ 100, BIER is 10x ;-)=C2=A0=
<div><br></div><div>Seriously though, please submit agenda for IETF 100 Sin=
gapore BIER session=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>looking forward to see y=
ou all there ...=C2=A0</div><span class=3D"m_6155924997613345019m_614057523=
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Revised and reposted.

Greg

On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'll add it.
>
> Greg
>
> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Greg,
>> I couldn't find draft-hu-bier-bfd being on agenda. Would appreciate if WG
>> Chairs would kindly consider granting a presentation slot:
>> draft-hu-bier-bfd  presenter - Fangwei Hu 10 min
>>
>> Regards,
>> Greg
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Agenda updated with a couple corrections. Please review:
>>>
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> all looks good. My, we busy, lots interesting topics ;-)
>>>>
>>>> --- tony
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The BIER agenda has been uploaded. Please review and let me know of
>>>>> any corrections, additions, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Greg
>>>>> (Chairs)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why stop @ 100, BIER is 10x ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seriously though, please submit agenda for IETF 100 Singapore BIER
>>>>>> session
>>>>>>
>>>>>> looking forward to see you all there ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- tony
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Revised and reposted.<div><br></div><div>Greg</div></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 3, 201=
7 at 11:01 AM, Greg Shepherd <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gjshep=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gjshep@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ll add it.<span class=3D=
"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>Greg</div></font></spa=
n></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Greg Mirsky=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">gregimirsky@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Greg,<div>I couldn&#39;t find=C2=A0draft-hu-b=
ier-bfd being on agenda. Would appreciate if WG Chairs would kindly conside=
r granting a presentation slot:</div><div>draft-hu-bier-bfd=C2=A0 presenter=
 - Fangwei Hu 10 min<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Greg</=
div></div><div class=3D"m_-8283452582256765785HOEnZb"><div class=3D"m_-8283=
452582256765785h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Greg Shepherd <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:gjshep@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gjshep@gmail.com</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Agenda upda=
ted with a couple corrections. Please review:<div><br></div><div><a href=3D=
"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/" target=3D"_blank">https=
://datatracker.ietf.org/d<wbr>oc/agenda-100-bier/</a><br></div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Thanks,</div><div>Greg</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"m_-8=
283452582256765785m_6155924997613345019HOEnZb"><div class=3D"m_-82834525822=
56765785m_6155924997613345019h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Tony Przygienda <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tonysietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tonys=
ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">all looks good. My, we busy, lots interesting topics ;-)=C2=A0=
<span class=3D"m_-8283452582256765785m_6155924997613345019m_614057523258564=
5251HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>--- tony=C2=A0</div=
></font></span></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><span>On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Greg Shepherd <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gjshep@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gjshep@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><div><div class=3D"m_-8283452582256765785m_6=
155924997613345019m_6140575232585645251h5"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">The BIER agenda has been uploaded. Please review and let me=
 know of any corrections, additions, etc.<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"htt=
ps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/" target=3D"_blank">https://d=
atatracker.ietf.org/d<wbr>oc/agenda-100-bier/</a><br></div><div><br></div><=
div>Thanks,</div><div>Greg</div><div>(Chairs)</div><div><br></div></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Wed, Oct 25=
, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Tony Przygienda <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:tonysietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tonysietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"m_-82834=
52582256765785m_6155924997613345019m_6140575232585645251m_78811042976462110=
30h5"><div dir=3D"ltr">Why stop @ 100, BIER is 10x ;-)=C2=A0<div><br></div>=
<div>Seriously though, please submit agenda for IETF 100 Singapore BIER ses=
sion=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>looking forward to see you all there ..=
.=C2=A0</div><span class=3D"m_-8283452582256765785m_6155924997613345019m_61=
40575232585645251m_7881104297646211030m_-3560778496121684088HOEnZb"><font c=
olor=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>--- tony=C2=A0</div></font></span></di=
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Hi Greg,
many thanks! Will send slides promptly.

Regards,
Greg

On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:

> Revised and reposted.
>
> Greg
>
> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll add it.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Greg,
>>> I couldn't find draft-hu-bier-bfd being on agenda. Would appreciate if
>>> WG Chairs would kindly consider granting a presentation slot:
>>> draft-hu-bier-bfd  presenter - Fangwei Hu 10 min
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agenda updated with a couple corrections. Please review:
>>>>
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Greg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> all looks good. My, we busy, lots interesting topics ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> --- tony
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The BIER agenda has been uploaded. Please review and let me know of
>>>>>> any corrections, additions, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>> (Chairs)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Tony Przygienda <
>>>>>> tonysietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why stop @ 100, BIER is 10x ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seriously though, please submit agenda for IETF 100 Singapore BIER
>>>>>>> session
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> looking forward to see you all there ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- tony
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Greg,<div>many thanks! Will send slides promptly.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Greg</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Greg=
 Shepherd <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gjshep@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">gjshep@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Revised and reposted.<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><fon=
t color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>Greg</div></font></span></div><div =
class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Greg Shepherd <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gjshep@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gjshep@g=
mail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">I&#39;ll add it.<span class=3D"m_5448073861921603970HOEnZb"><font =
color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>Greg</div></font></span></div><div cl=
ass=3D"m_5448073861921603970HOEnZb"><div class=3D"m_5448073861921603970h5">=
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 3, 20=
17 at 10:56 AM, Greg Mirsky <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gregimi=
rsky@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gregimirsky@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrot=
e:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Greg,<div>I couldn=
&#39;t find=C2=A0draft-hu-bier-bfd being on agenda. Would appreciate if WG =
Chairs would kindly consider granting a presentation slot:</div><div>draft-=
hu-bier-bfd=C2=A0 presenter - Fangwei Hu 10 min<br></div><div><br></div><di=
v>Regards,</div><div>Greg</div></div><div class=3D"m_5448073861921603970m_-=
8283452582256765785HOEnZb"><div class=3D"m_5448073861921603970m_-8283452582=
256765785h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On F=
ri, Nov 3, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Greg Shepherd <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:gjshep@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gjshep@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Agenda updated wi=
th a couple corrections. Please review:<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https=
://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/" target=3D"_blank">https://dat=
atracker.ietf.org/d<wbr>oc/agenda-100-bier/</a><br></div><div><br></div><di=
v>Thanks,</div><div>Greg</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"m_54480738=
61921603970m_-8283452582256765785m_6155924997613345019HOEnZb"><div class=3D=
"m_5448073861921603970m_-8283452582256765785m_6155924997613345019h5"><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at =
9:09 AM, Tony Przygienda <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tonysietf@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tonysietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">all looks good. My, we busy,=
 lots interesting topics ;-)=C2=A0<span class=3D"m_5448073861921603970m_-82=
83452582256765785m_6155924997613345019m_6140575232585645251HOEnZb"><font co=
lor=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>--- tony=C2=A0</div></font></span></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Thu, No=
v 2, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Greg Shepherd <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:gjshep@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gjshep@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br></span><div><div class=3D"m_5448073861921603970m_-8283452582256765785m_=
6155924997613345019m_6140575232585645251h5"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">The BIER agenda has been uploaded. Please review and let m=
e know of any corrections, additions, etc.<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"ht=
tps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/" target=3D"_blank">https://=
datatracker.ietf.org/d<wbr>oc/agenda-100-bier/</a><br></div><div><br></div>=
<div>Thanks,</div><div>Greg</div><div>(Chairs)</div><div><br></div></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Wed, Oct 2=
5, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Tony Przygienda <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:tonysietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tonysietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"m_54480=
73861921603970m_-8283452582256765785m_6155924997613345019m_6140575232585645=
251m_7881104297646211030h5"><div dir=3D"ltr">Why stop @ 100, BIER is 10x ;-=
)=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Seriously though, please submit agenda for IETF =
100 Singapore BIER session=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>looking forward t=
o see you all there ...=C2=A0</div><span class=3D"m_5448073861921603970m_-8=
283452582256765785m_6155924997613345019m_6140575232585645251m_7881104297646=
211030m_-3560778496121684088HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div>=
<div>--- tony=C2=A0</div></font></span></div>
<br></div></div><span>______________________________<wbr>_________________<=
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hi,
i went through the igp drafts and the isis seems straightforward
but the ospf seems a bit troublesome to me.
in that draft you say that
"The BIER MPLS Encapsulation Sub-TLV is a Sub-TLV of the BIER Sub-TLV."
(you can find the same at the bsl conversion subtlv)
but at iana considerations you request 3 tlv ids from the registry,
which indicates that the newly defined subtlvs will be carried in
the extended prefix tlv, without further encapsulation of the bier subtlv.
could you please clarify this?
thanks,
cs


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Could you pls. approve draft-ietf-bier-te-arch-00 and put it on the
agenda as well ? 5 mins good enough. Just added discuss of Fwd plane
comparison with BIER according to dsicus from Alia.

Thanks!
    Toerless

On Fri, Nov 03, 2017 at 11:05:23AM -0700, Greg Shepherd wrote:
> Revised and reposted.
> 
> Greg
> 
> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'll add it.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Greg,
> >> I couldn't find draft-hu-bier-bfd being on agenda. Would appreciate if WG
> >> Chairs would kindly consider granting a presentation slot:
> >> draft-hu-bier-bfd  presenter - Fangwei Hu 10 min
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Greg
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Agenda updated with a couple corrections. Please review:
> >>>
> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Greg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> all looks good. My, we busy, lots interesting topics ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> --- tony
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> The BIER agenda has been uploaded. Please review and let me know of
> >>>>> any corrections, additions, etc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-100-bier/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Greg
> >>>>> (Chairs)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com
> >>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Why stop @ 100, BIER is 10x ;-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Seriously though, please submit agenda for IETF 100 Singapore BIER
> >>>>>> session
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> looking forward to see you all there ...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --- tony
> >>>>>>
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Hi

I agree it makes sense to include the BFR-id, but is there any reason
to still include the BFR-prefix?

BTW, in the text it says BFR-id and BFR-Prefix, but in figure 1 it
says BFIR-id and BFIR-Prefix. Also, in the text and the figure, it
says "-id" (lower case i), but "-Prefix" (upper case p).

Stig


On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Eric C Rosen <erosen@juniper.net> wrote:
> This version does have a significant change.  After much discussion among
> the co-authors, it was decided to add the BFR-id to the PMSI Tunnel
> Attribute as part of the Tunnel Identifier field.  This simplifies the ta=
sk
> of creating the appropriate BitString.  Please review and raise any
> objections.
>
>
>
>
> On 10/16/2017 10:22 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>> This draft is a work item of the Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG of
>> the IETF.
>>
>>          Title           : Multicast VPN Using BIER
>>          Authors         : Eric C. Rosen
>>                            Mahesh Sivakumar
>>                            Sam K Aldrin
>>                            Andrew Dolganow
>>                            Tony Przygienda
>>         Filename        : draft-ietf-bier-mvpn-08.txt
>>         Pages           : 17
>>         Date            : 2017-10-16
>>
>> Abstract:
>>     The Multicast Virtual Private Network (MVPN) specifications require
>>     the use of multicast tunnels ("P-tunnels") that traverse a Service
>>     Provider's backbone network.  The P-tunnels are used for carrying
>>     multicast traffic across the backbone.  A variety of P-tunnel types
>>     are supported.  Bit Index Explicit Replication (BIER) is a new
>>     architecture that provides optimal multicast forwarding through a
>>     "multicast domain", without requiring intermediate routers to
>>     maintain any per-flow state or to engage in an explicit tree-buildin=
g
>>     protocol.  This document specifies the protocol and procedures that
>>     allow MVPN to use BIER as the method of carrying multicast traffic
>>     over an SP backbone network.
>>
>>
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf.=
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Subject: Re: [Bier] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bier-mvpn-08.txt
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On 11/8/2017 4:43 PM, Stig Venaas wrote:
> Hi
>
> I agree it makes sense to include the BFR-id, but is there any reason
> to still include the BFR-prefix?

Yes.  Please see the second paragraph of section 2.1 and section 7 of 
RFC 5331.

>
> BTW, in the text it says BFR-id and BFR-Prefix, but in figure 1 it
> says BFIR-id and BFIR-Prefix.

The figure should use "BFR-id" and "BFR-prefix", since the PTA may occur 
in a Leaf A-D route, where the BFR-id is actually a BFER-id.
Fixed in the next revision.

> Also, in the text and the figure, it
> says "-id" (lower case i), but "-Prefix" (upper case p).

During the RFC Editor's review of the architecture draft, many such 
capitalization inconsistencies were pointed out.  The agreed upon fix is 
to use "BFR-id" and "BFR-prefix".  Fixed in the next revision.



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Hi

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 6:42 AM, Eric C Rosen <erosen@juniper.net> wrote:
> On 11/8/2017 4:43 PM, Stig Venaas wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I agree it makes sense to include the BFR-id, but is there any reason
>> to still include the BFR-prefix?
>
>
> Yes.  Please see the second paragraph of section 2.1 and section 7 of RFC
> 5331.

I see, thanks! I was a bit too quick there.

Stig


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Subject: [Bier] Comments on draft-zhang-bier-flooding
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Hi Sandy,

During a recent offline discussion on OSPF/ISIS inter-area BIER signaling, =
I brought up that when an area border router re-advertise into another area=
, it does not need to advertise the encapsulation sub-TLV, because routers =
in other areas won't use that information at all. All that is needed is the=
 BFR-IDs.

The same could be applied to the use case you're describing:



                              |                |
                     .........|................|.........
                     .  ISIS  |                |        .
                     .        |                |        .
                     .       MR1--------------MR2       .
                     .        |  .          .  |        .
                     .        |    .      .    |        .
                     .        |      .  .      |        .
                     .        |       ..       |        .
                     .        |     .    .     |        .
                     .        |   .        .   |        .
                     .        | .            . |        .
                     .        MR3              MR4      .
                     .       /  \             /  \      .
                     ....................................
                            /    \           /    \
                           /      \         /      \
                          /        \       /        \
                     ...................  ................
                     .    B1--------B2 .  .B3--------B4  .
                     .                 .  .              .
                     .   Rm            .  . Rx           .
                     .       ...       .  .     ...      .
                     .            Rn   .  .         Ry   .
                     .                 .  .              .
                     .         OSPF    .  .       OSPF   .
                     ...................  ................
                       Figure 1: An typical hybrid network

So, I don't see a need to use BSR to flood the BIER info across those diffe=
rent routing domains. As long as the border routers advertise the BFR-IDs o=
f its downstream nodes to neighboring border routers, and its neighboring b=
order routers continue to advertise the BFR-IDs of those downstream nodes, =
it will work.

For example, MR3 has to learn routes to Rm...Rn somehow - as long as that l=
earning includes the BFR-IDs of Rm...Rn, and MR3 advertises those to its ne=
ighbors in the ISIS domain and so on, things will work.

Jeffrey



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<div>Hi Sandy,</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>During a recent offline discussion on OSPF/ISIS inter-area BIER signal=
ing, I brought up that when an area border router re-advertise into another=
 area, it does not need to advertise the encapsulation sub-TLV, because rou=
ters in other areas won't use that
information at all. All that is needed is the BFR-IDs.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The same could be applied to the use case you're describing:</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Figure 1: An typi=
cal hybrid network</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"DengXian" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">So,=
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fferent routing domains. As long as the border routers advertise the BFR-ID=
s of its downstream nodes to neighboring border
routers, and its neighboring border routers continue to advertise the BFR-I=
Ds of those downstream nodes, it will work.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></div>
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 that learning includes the BFR-IDs of Rm&#8230;Rn, and MR3 advertises thos=
e to its neighbors in the ISIS domain and so on, things
will work.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"DengXian" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">&nb=
sp;</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"DengXian" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">Jef=
frey</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></div>
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Read with interest. Intriguing and something that was rattling in the back
of my skull already for a while having dealt with Blooms in other venues
;-)

Generally, I think I would encourage enquiries into a flavor of BIER
bitmasks being BLOOM filters (especially seeing it was
draft-bergmann-bier-ccast
first ;-), i.e. we don't consider the bitmask something being a perfect
hash of <SD,SI> but rather a BLOOM for a set of <SD,SI>s or maybe even
total SD.  In principle the mask signifies all possible destinations
addressed (incl. false positives) and on forwarding the fastpath has to
hash all possible outgoing destinations on an interface and see whether
they match incoming BLOOM.

--- tony


Footnote: How computationally expensive is that? Well, depends on bunch
variables of course and how much unnecessary replications are we willing to
live with. And of course how many destinations we address on average, the
higher N on bloom the worse the performance unless we are willing to go
high m or accept high p (I use standard BLOOM variable notation here). As
the draft astutely observes, lots of that stuff can be pre-computed on
outgoing interfaces already (in fact just for the BFR-ids that are seen in
the signalling and not all 16K) ...

Simple sample with an intriguing number:

a) assuming 16K BFRs & 1% being addressed on average (N=160) and
b) allowing for p=20% false positives (i.e. 190 BFRs would get it)  and

we could fit with k=2 hash functions e.thing into m=~512 bits mask size.

Of course the false positives go up dramatically if N grows.

Another interesting observation is that using blooms would liberate us from
the 16K BFR-id scaling of technology which in itself maybe an interesting
angle.

There are variations like attenuaned filters but I won't go there further
...

As a quick thought we could even imagine distributing in parallel

MPLS label = <SI,SD,BML>
MPLS label = BLOOM on <SI 1-4, SD, BML>

whereas the BLOOM can be used by the source if e.g. a group is addressed
that only flips a bunch of bits spread across the SIs 1-4 which would be
far more bandwitdth efficient than sending 4 copies.  in 256 bits we can
address up to 26 destinations with p=0.01 albeit k>6

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Read with interest. Intriguing and something that was ratt=
ling in the back of my skull already for a while having dealt with Blooms i=
n other venues ;-)=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Generally, I think I would enco=
urage enquiries into a flavor of BIER bitmasks being BLOOM filters (especia=
lly seeing it was=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-family:Menlo;font-size:12px">dra=
ft-bergmann-bier-ccast first ;-)</span>, i.e. we don&#39;t consider the bit=
mask something being a perfect hash of &lt;SD,SI&gt; but rather a BLOOM for=
 a set of &lt;SD,SI&gt;s or maybe even total SD.=C2=A0 In principle the mas=
k signifies all possible destinations addressed (incl. false positives) and=
 on forwarding the fastpath has to hash all possible outgoing destinations =
on an interface and see whether they match incoming BLOOM.=C2=A0</div><div>=
<br></div><div>--- tony=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Footn=
ote: How computationally expensive is that? Well, depends on bunch variable=
s of course and how much unnecessary replications are we willing to live wi=
th. And of course how many destinations we address on average, the higher N=
 on bloom the worse the performance unless we are willing to go high m or a=
ccept high p (I use standard BLOOM variable notation here). As the draft as=
tutely observes, lots of that stuff can be pre-computed on outgoing interfa=
ces already (in fact just for the BFR-ids that are seen in the signalling a=
nd not all 16K) ...=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Simple sample with an in=
triguing number:=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>a) assuming 16K BFRs &amp; =
1% being addressed on average (N=3D160) and=C2=A0</div><div>b) allowing for=
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<div><br></div><div>we could fit with k=3D2 hash functions e.thing into m=
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positives go up dramatically if N grows.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Ano=
ther interesting observation is that using blooms would liberate us from th=
e 16K BFR-id scaling of technology which in itself maybe an interesting ang=
le. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>There are variations like attenuaned fi=
lters but I won&#39;t go there further ...=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>A=
s a quick thought we could even imagine distributing in parallel</div><div>=
<br></div><div>MPLS label =3D &lt;SI,SD,BML&gt;=C2=A0</div><div>MPLS label =
=3D BLOOM on &lt;SI 1-4, SD, BML&gt;=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>whereas=
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ndwitdth efficient than sending 4 copies. =C2=A0in 256 bits we can address =
up to 26 destinations with p=3D0.01 albeit k&gt;6</div><div><br></div></div=
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Can you please send me the slides for these to agenda items?

Thanks,
Greg

On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 9:01 PM, <xiong.quan@zte.com.cn> wrote:

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>   We would appreciate a 10-15 min time slot for presenting two new drafts
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Can you please send me the slides for these to agenda item=
s?<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Greg</div></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 9:01 PM,  <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:xiong.quan@zte.com.cn" target=3D"_bla=
nk">xiong.quan@zte.com.cn</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div class=3D"m_-8315324026188578794zcontentRow"> <p style=3D"font-s=
ize:14px;font-family:arial"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:=
arial">Hi Tony,</p><p style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:arial"><br></p><p=
 style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:arial">=C2=A0 We would appreciate a 10=
-15 min time slot for presenting two new drafts about BIER-TE as following =
shown.</p><p style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:arial">=C2=A0=C2=A0</p><p =
style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:arial">=C2=A0 =C2=A0draft-xiong-bier-te=
-<wbr>encapsulation</p><p style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:arial">=C2=A0=
 =C2=A0draft-zcxh-bier-te-forwarding</p><p style=3D"font-size:14px;font-fam=
ily:arial"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:arial">Best Regar=
ds,<br></p><p style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:arial">Quan Xiong</p><p s=
tyle=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:arial"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size:14p=
x;font-family:arial"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:arial">=
<br></p><p style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:arial"><br></p><p>List-Post:=
 &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:bier@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">bier@ietf.or=
g</a>&gt;</p><p>From: Tony Przygienda &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tonysietf@gmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank">tonysietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;</p><p>Precedence: list<=
/p><p>MIME-Version: 1.0</p><p>To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:bier@ietf.org" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">bier@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bier@ietf.org=
" target=3D"_blank">bier@ietf.org</a>&gt;</p><p>Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 00:0=
7:34 -0700</p><p>Message-ID: &lt;CA+wi2hNnN9jK7NVz2PEC2EQ-<wbr>JO2Ao3id7r=
=3DCetzUn=3D<a href=3D"mailto:L%2Bc8RTgA@mail.gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">=
L+c8RTgA@<wbr>mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;</p><p>Content-Type: multipart/alternat=
ive; boundary=3D&quot;<wbr>94eb2c199e5621d2b6055c59b8cb&quot;</p><p>Subject=
: [Bier] Call for BIER Agenda items for IETF 1000 ...</p><p>Message: 4</p><=
p><br></p><p>--94eb2c199e5621d2b6055c59b8cb</p><p>Content-Type: text/plain;=
 charset=3D&quot;UTF-8&quot;</p><p><br></p><p>Why stop @ 100, BIER is 10x ;=
-)</p><p><br></p><p>Seriously though, please submit agenda for IETF 100 Sin=
gapore BIER session</p><p><br></p><p>looking forward to see you all there .=
..</p><p><br></p><p>--- tony</p><p style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:aria=
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Multicast VPN Using BIER
        Authors         : Eric C. Rosen
                          Mahesh Sivakumar
                          Sam K Aldrin
                          Andrew Dolganow
                          Tony Przygienda
	Filename        : draft-ietf-bier-mvpn-09.txt
	Pages           : 17
	Date            : 2017-11-13

Abstract:
   The Multicast Virtual Private Network (MVPN) specifications require
   the use of multicast tunnels ("P-tunnels") that traverse a Service
   Provider's backbone network.  The P-tunnels are used for carrying
   multicast traffic across the backbone.  A variety of P-tunnel types
   are supported.  Bit Index Explicit Replication (BIER) is a new
   architecture that provides optimal multicast forwarding through a
   "multicast domain", without requiring intermediate routers to
   maintain any per-flow state or to engage in an explicit tree-building
   protocol.  This document specifies the protocol and procedures that
   allow MVPN to use BIER as the method of carrying multicast traffic
   over an SP backbone network.


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Hi,

Crossposted between BIER and Babel.

Thanks a lot to Sandy for presenting bierin6 this morning at the Babel
meeting.  I asked a question about how encapsulation is signalled, and
Tony answered it doesn't matter.  He's probably right, but I need an
explanation.

Suppose a BIER router A has a neighbour B.  From the routing protocol, it
has learnt that frames with a given bit index set are to be forwarded to
B.  How does it know which among the different BIER encapsulations to use
in order to send its BIER frames to B?

I'm probably missing something, but I only see three solutions:

  1. statically configured (e.g. a given BIER domain is statically
     configured to use a given encapsulation);

  2. carried by a specific signalling protocol (call it the BIER Hello
     Protocol for now);

  3. carried by the routing protocol (e.g. carried by a sub-TLV of the IHU
     TLV in Babel, or using RFC 5613 signalling in OSPF).

So what's the vision here?

-- Juliusz


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you simply pick either one, it's a hop-by-hop decision. Sufficient. That
way we can simply run BIERin6 first and then add the ether cap TLV and
start to remove the BIERin6 encaps TLVs (given SD,SI,BML are same) ...

--- tony



On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Crossposted between BIER and Babel.
>
> Thanks a lot to Sandy for presenting bierin6 this morning at the Babel
> meeting.  I asked a question about how encapsulation is signalled, and
> Tony answered it doesn't matter.  He's probably right, but I need an
> explanation.
>
> Suppose a BIER router A has a neighbour B.  From the routing protocol, it
> has learnt that frames with a given bit index set are to be forwarded to
> B.  How does it know which among the different BIER encapsulations to use
> in order to send its BIER frames to B?
>
> I'm probably missing something, but I only see three solutions:
>
>   1. statically configured (e.g. a given BIER domain is statically
>      configured to use a given encapsulation);
>
>   2. carried by a specific signalling protocol (call it the BIER Hello
>      Protocol for now);
>
>   3. carried by the routing protocol (e.g. carried by a sub-TLV of the IHU
>      TLV in Babel, or using RFC 5613 signalling in OSPF).
>
> So what's the vision here?
>
> -- Juliusz
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">you simply pick either one, it&#39;s a hop-by-hop decision=
. Sufficient. That way we can simply run BIERin6 first and then add the eth=
er cap TLV and start to remove the BIERin6 encaps TLVs (given SD,SI,BML are=
 same) ...=C2=A0<div><div><div><br></div><div>--- tony=C2=A0<br><div><br></=
div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Juliusz Chroboc=
zek <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jch@irif.fr" target=3D"_blank">=
jch@irif.fr</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
Crossposted between BIER and Babel.<br>
<br>
Thanks a lot to Sandy for presenting bierin6 this morning at the Babel<br>
meeting.=C2=A0 I asked a question about how encapsulation is signalled, and=
<br>
Tony answered it doesn&#39;t matter.=C2=A0 He&#39;s probably right, but I n=
eed an<br>
explanation.<br>
<br>
Suppose a BIER router A has a neighbour B.=C2=A0 From the routing protocol,=
 it<br>
has learnt that frames with a given bit index set are to be forwarded to<br=
>
B.=C2=A0 How does it know which among the different BIER encapsulations to =
use<br>
in order to send its BIER frames to B?<br>
<br>
I&#39;m probably missing something, but I only see three solutions:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 1. statically configured (e.g. a given BIER domain is statically<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0configured to use a given encapsulation);<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 2. carried by a specific signalling protocol (call it the BIER Hello=
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Protocol for now);<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 3. carried by the routing protocol (e.g. carried by a sub-TLV of the=
 IHU<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0TLV in Babel, or using RFC 5613 signalling in OSPF).<br=
>
<br>
So what&#39;s the vision here?<br>
<br>
-- Juliusz<br>
<br>
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> you simply pick either one, it's a hop-by-hop decision.

What if A implements both encapsulations, and B only implements bierin6?
If A picks the native encapsulation, you've created a blackhole, no?

-- Juliusz


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Hi Juliusz,<br>
<br>
1. statically configured (e.g. a given BIER domain is statically<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;configured to use a given encapsulation);<br>
Sandy: Yes, static configuration provides a simple way to implement bier fo=
rwarding.
<br>
<br>
&nbsp; 2. carried by a specific signalling protocol (call it the BIER Hello=
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Protocol for now);<br>
Sandy: Bier node information is advertised by IGP/ BGP protocol (as you men=
tioned &quot;Bier hello protocol&quot;), Bift-id is the key to find the cor=
responding forwarding item. But there's no restriction for the out-layer en=
capsulation. In fact, the Bier packets can
 be executed correctly whatever the out-layer is, such as Mpls, Ethernet or=
 IPv6, and so on. The out-layer encapsulation is only used to make sure the=
 Bier packet can be received correctly by the next hop router.<br>
To your example, A sends the bier packet with whatever encapsulation, indee=
d the packet will be received and executed correctly by B. A should choose =
a reasonable encapsulation method though it can choose the method optionall=
y. In fact there's consensus in
 one bier domain.<br>
<br>
&nbsp; 3. carried by the routing protocol (e.g. carried by a sub-TLV of the=
 IHU<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;TLV in Babel, or using RFC 5613 signalling in OSPF).<br=
>
Sandy: You needn't do that. But you can try if you insist on it.<br>
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What if A implements both encapsulations, and B only implements bierin6?<br=
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If A picks the native encapsulation, you've created a blackhole, no?<br>
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> In fact there's consensus in one bier domain.

I'm not sure I'm happy with that.  For one, it means that you cannot
migrate a domain incrementally.

-- Juliusz


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either encapsulation can be picked and with that migration is trivial ...

Again, architecture doesn't spell that out but if SD/SI/BML match you can
use any encaps to reach the neighbor


--- tony

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> wrote:

> > In fact there's consensus in one bier domain.
>
> I'm not sure I'm happy with that.  For one, it means that you cannot
> migrate a domain incrementally.
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> -- Juliusz
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I think the model is that a BFR knows by virtue of provisioning what 
encapsulation to use by default when transmitting a BIER packet.  If a 
BFR has certain interfaces that lead, e.g., from an MPLS network to an 
IPv6-only network, those interfaces can be provisioned so that the BFR 
knows to use a specified non-default encapsulation when transmitting a 
BIER packet over those interfaces.

In that model, there is no real need for every BFR to know the set of 
encapsulations that every other BFR can receive.

To transition a backbone from one encapsulation to another, one would 
have to first provision all the BFRs to be able to receive both 
encapsulations.  Then one could change the default transmission 
encapsulation on the BFRs one by one.

This model doesn't really support hop-by-hop changing of the 
encapsulation very well, since there is no signaling of the supported 
encapsulation.  But is there really a practical need to optimize for the 
situation in which every hop uses a different encapsulation than the one 
before?

> Juliusz> I'm probably missing something, but I only see three solutions:
>
>    1. statically configured (e.g. a given BIER domain is statically
>       configured to use a given encapsulation);

As suggested above.

>
>    2. carried by a specific signalling protocol (call it the BIER Hello
>       Protocol for now);

I would avoid this.  Hello protocols always seem like they're going to 
be simple, and then turn up being nightmares.  Note that BIER neighbors 
are not necessarily layer 2  neighbors, and once we start sending Hellos 
that are not link-local, the Hellos are easy to attack and we end up 
with some thorny security issues.  I'd certainly want to avoid creating 
new soft state flooding mechanisms for passing BIER control information, 
as we're supposed to be simplifying things rather than making them more 
complicated.

>
>    3. carried by the routing protocol (e.g. carried by a sub-TLV of the IHU
>       TLV in Babel, or using RFC 5613 signalling in OSPF).

IF there is really a practical need for dynamic signaling of "here is 
the list of BIER encapsulations I can parse", adding that information to 
the existing BIER control signaling mechanisms makes sense.  (It's 
analogous to the distribution of information about the supported 
Disposition BSLs).


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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 8279

        Title:      Multicast Using Bit Index Explicit 
                    Replication (BIER) 
        Author:     I. Wijnands, Ed.,
                    E. Rosen, Ed.,
                    A. Dolganow,
                    T. Przygienda,
                    S. Aldrin
        Status:     Experimental
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       November 2017
        Mailbox:    ice@cisco.com,
                    erosen@juniper.net,
                    andrew.dolganow@nokia.com,
                    prz@juniper.net,
                    aldrin.ietf@gmail.com
        Pages:      43
        Characters: 97283
        Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:   None

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-bier-architecture-08.txt

        URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8279

        DOI:        10.17487/RFC8279

This document specifies a new architecture for the forwarding of
multicast data packets.  It provides optimal forwarding of multicast
packets through a "multicast domain".  However, it does not require a
protocol for explicitly building multicast distribution trees, nor
does it require intermediate nodes to maintain any per-flow state.
This architecture is known as "Bit Index Explicit Replication"
(BIER).  When a multicast data packet enters the domain, the ingress
router determines the set of egress routers to which the packet needs
to be sent.  The ingress router then encapsulates the packet in a
BIER header.  The BIER header contains a bit string in which each bit
represents exactly one egress router in the domain; to forward the
packet to a given set of egress routers, the bits corresponding to
those routers are set in the BIER header.  The procedures for
forwarding a packet based on its BIER header are specified in this
document.  Elimination of the per-flow state and the explicit
tree-building protocols results in a considerable simplification.

This document is a product of the Bit Indexed Explicit Replication Working Group of the IETF.


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1. If we follow today's downstream assigned IGP signalling, each BFR can
choose whatever they want to the next hop as long they have a binding. They
know what the next router supports from its advertisements.  Observe that
the SD binding is encapsulation neutral (i.e. it can advertise multiple
encapsulations per same SI,BML).
2. If BIER relies on the non-MPLS-hard-coded-global-"label" then yes, we
either provision per next neighbor what are viable encapsulations or need
somehow to advertise those. Given we have to advertise whether a router
supports BIER advertising supported encaps doesn't seem to make much
difference to me.
3. I would also abstain from extending hellos

--- tony

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 7:47 AM, Eric C Rosen <erosen@juniper.net> wrote:

> I think the model is that a BFR knows by virtue of provisioning what
> encapsulation to use by default when transmitting a BIER packet.  If a BFR
> has certain interfaces that lead, e.g., from an MPLS network to an
> IPv6-only network, those interfaces can be provisioned so that the BFR
> knows to use a specified non-default encapsulation when transmitting a BIER
> packet over those interfaces.
>
> In that model, there is no real need for every BFR to know the set of
> encapsulations that every other BFR can receive.
>
> To transition a backbone from one encapsulation to another, one would have
> to first provision all the BFRs to be able to receive both encapsulations.
> Then one could change the default transmission encapsulation on the BFRs
> one by one.
>
> This model doesn't really support hop-by-hop changing of the encapsulation
> very well, since there is no signaling of the supported encapsulation.  But
> is there really a practical need to optimize for the situation in which
> every hop uses a different encapsulation than the one before?
>
> Juliusz> I'm probably missing something, but I only see three solutions:
>>
>>    1. statically configured (e.g. a given BIER domain is statically
>>       configured to use a given encapsulation);
>>
>
> As suggested above.
>
>
>>    2. carried by a specific signalling protocol (call it the BIER Hello
>>       Protocol for now);
>>
>
> I would avoid this.  Hello protocols always seem like they're going to be
> simple, and then turn up being nightmares.  Note that BIER neighbors are
> not necessarily layer 2  neighbors, and once we start sending Hellos that
> are not link-local, the Hellos are easy to attack and we end up with some
> thorny security issues.  I'd certainly want to avoid creating new soft
> state flooding mechanisms for passing BIER control information, as we're
> supposed to be simplifying things rather than making them more complicated.
>
>
>>    3. carried by the routing protocol (e.g. carried by a sub-TLV of the
>> IHU
>>       TLV in Babel, or using RFC 5613 signalling in OSPF).
>>
>
> IF there is really a practical need for dynamic signaling of "here is the
> list of BIER encapsulations I can parse", adding that information to the
> existing BIER control signaling mechanisms makes sense.  (It's analogous to
> the distribution of information about the supported Disposition BSLs).
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">1. If we follow today&#39;s downstream assigned IGP signal=
ling, each BFR can choose whatever they want to the next hop as long they h=
ave a binding. They know what the next router supports from its advertiseme=
nts.=C2=A0 Observe that the SD binding is encapsulation neutral (i.e. it ca=
n advertise multiple encapsulations per same SI,BML).=C2=A0<div>2. If BIER =
relies on the non-MPLS-hard-coded-global-&quot;label&quot; then yes, we eit=
her provision per next neighbor what are viable encapsulations or need some=
how to advertise those. Given we have to advertise whether a router support=
s BIER advertising supported encaps doesn&#39;t seem to make much differenc=
e to me.=C2=A0</div><div>3. I would also abstain from extending hellos</div=
><div><br></div><div>--- tony=C2=A0<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 7:47 AM, Eric C Rosen <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:erosen@juniper.net" target=3D"_blank">eros=
en@juniper.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I th=
ink the model is that a BFR knows by virtue of provisioning what encapsulat=
ion to use by default when transmitting a BIER packet.=C2=A0 If a BFR has c=
ertain interfaces that lead, e.g., from an MPLS network to an IPv6-only net=
work, those interfaces can be provisioned so that the BFR knows to use a sp=
ecified non-default encapsulation when transmitting a BIER packet over thos=
e interfaces.<br>
<br>
In that model, there is no real need for every BFR to know the set of encap=
sulations that every other BFR can receive.<br>
<br>
To transition a backbone from one encapsulation to another, one would have =
to first provision all the BFRs to be able to receive both encapsulations.=
=C2=A0 Then one could change the default transmission encapsulation on the =
BFRs one by one.<br>
<br>
This model doesn&#39;t really support hop-by-hop changing of the encapsulat=
ion very well, since there is no signaling of the supported encapsulation.=
=C2=A0 But is there really a practical need to optimize for the situation i=
n which every hop uses a different encapsulation than the one before?<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Juliusz&gt; I&#39;m probably missing something, but I only see three soluti=
ons:<span class=3D""><br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A01. statically configured (e.g. a given BIER domain is statical=
ly<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 configured to use a given encapsulation);<br>
</span></blockquote>
<br>
As suggested above.<span class=3D""><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A02. carried by a specific signalling protocol (call it the BIER=
 Hello<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Protocol for now);<br>
</blockquote>
<br></span>
I would avoid this.=C2=A0 Hello protocols always seem like they&#39;re goin=
g to be simple, and then turn up being nightmares.=C2=A0 Note that BIER nei=
ghbors are not necessarily layer 2=C2=A0 neighbors, and once we start sendi=
ng Hellos that are not link-local, the Hellos are easy to attack and we end=
 up with some thorny security issues.=C2=A0 I&#39;d certainly want to avoid=
 creating new soft state flooding mechanisms for passing BIER control infor=
mation, as we&#39;re supposed to be simplifying things rather than making t=
hem more complicated.<span class=3D""><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A03. carried by the routing protocol (e.g. carried by a sub-TLV =
of the IHU<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 TLV in Babel, or using RFC 5613 signalling in OSPF).<b=
r>
</blockquote>
<br></span>
IF there is really a practical need for dynamic signaling of &quot;here is =
the list of BIER encapsulations I can parse&quot;, adding that information =
to the existing BIER control signaling mechanisms makes sense.=C2=A0 (It&#3=
9;s analogous to the distribution of information about the supported Dispos=
ition BSLs).<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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If you wonder why there is no big hurray !!!!!!,
congratulations for the RFC here on the mailing list,
here are my top guesses:

a) We already had it in Singapore in the BIER WG meeting.
c) We're all still in jet lag koma after flying back from Singapore
b) We're all getting ready for thanksgiving

Nevertheless: hurray!!!!!

Happy thanksgiving (applicable to U.S. residents)
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On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 12:40:27PM -0800, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.
> 
>         
>         RFC 8279
> 
>         Title:      Multicast Using Bit Index Explicit 
>                     Replication (BIER) 
>         Author:     I. Wijnands, Ed.,
>                     E. Rosen, Ed.,
>                     A. Dolganow,
>                     T. Przygienda,
>                     S. Aldrin
>         Status:     Experimental
>         Stream:     IETF
>         Date:       November 2017
>         Mailbox:    ice@cisco.com,
>                     erosen@juniper.net,
>                     andrew.dolganow@nokia.com,
>                     prz@juniper.net,
>                     aldrin.ietf@gmail.com
>         Pages:      43
>         Characters: 97283
>         Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:   None
> 
>         I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-bier-architecture-08.txt
> 
>         URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8279
> 
>         DOI:        10.17487/RFC8279
> 
> This document specifies a new architecture for the forwarding of
> multicast data packets.  It provides optimal forwarding of multicast
> packets through a "multicast domain".  However, it does not require a
> protocol for explicitly building multicast distribution trees, nor
> does it require intermediate nodes to maintain any per-flow state.
> This architecture is known as "Bit Index Explicit Replication"
> (BIER).  When a multicast data packet enters the domain, the ingress
> router determines the set of egress routers to which the packet needs
> to be sent.  The ingress router then encapsulates the packet in a
> BIER header.  The BIER header contains a bit string in which each bit
> represents exactly one egress router in the domain; to forward the
> packet to a given set of egress routers, the bits corresponding to
> those routers are set in the BIER header.  The procedures for
> forwarding a packet based on its BIER header are specified in this
> document.  Elimination of the per-flow state and the explicit
> tree-building protocols results in a considerable simplification.
> 
> This document is a product of the Bit Indexed Explicit Replication Working Group of the IETF.
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> 
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Indeed a truly multi-vendor and open achievement. Congrats to all!

Dino

> On Nov 21, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
>=20
> If you wonder why there is no big hurray !!!!!!,
> congratulations for the RFC here on the mailing list,
> here are my top guesses:
>=20
> a) We already had it in Singapore in the BIER WG meeting.
> c) We're all still in jet lag koma after flying back from Singapore
> b) We're all getting ready for thanksgiving
>=20
> Nevertheless: hurray!!!!!
>=20
> Happy thanksgiving (applicable to U.S. residents)
>  Toerless
>=20
> In-Reply-To: <20171120204027.E4CECB81B04@rfc-editor.org>
>=20
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 12:40:27PM -0800, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org =
wrote:
>> A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.
>>=20
>>=20
>>        RFC 8279
>>=20
>>        Title:      Multicast Using Bit Index Explicit=20
>>                    Replication (BIER)=20
>>        Author:     I. Wijnands, Ed.,
>>                    E. Rosen, Ed.,
>>                    A. Dolganow,
>>                    T. Przygienda,
>>                    S. Aldrin
>>        Status:     Experimental
>>        Stream:     IETF
>>        Date:       November 2017
>>        Mailbox:    ice@cisco.com,
>>                    erosen@juniper.net,
>>                    andrew.dolganow@nokia.com,
>>                    prz@juniper.net,
>>                    aldrin.ietf@gmail.com
>>        Pages:      43
>>        Characters: 97283
>>        Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:   None
>>=20
>>        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-bier-architecture-08.txt
>>=20
>>        URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8279
>>=20
>>        DOI:        10.17487/RFC8279
>>=20
>> This document specifies a new architecture for the forwarding of
>> multicast data packets.  It provides optimal forwarding of multicast
>> packets through a "multicast domain".  However, it does not require a
>> protocol for explicitly building multicast distribution trees, nor
>> does it require intermediate nodes to maintain any per-flow state.
>> This architecture is known as "Bit Index Explicit Replication"
>> (BIER).  When a multicast data packet enters the domain, the ingress
>> router determines the set of egress routers to which the packet needs
>> to be sent.  The ingress router then encapsulates the packet in a
>> BIER header.  The BIER header contains a bit string in which each bit
>> represents exactly one egress router in the domain; to forward the
>> packet to a given set of egress routers, the bits corresponding to
>> those routers are set in the BIER header.  The procedures for
>> forwarding a packet based on its BIER header are specified in this
>> document.  Elimination of the per-flow state and the explicit
>> tree-building protocols results in a considerable simplification.
>>=20
>> This document is a product of the Bit Indexed Explicit Replication =
Working Group of the IETF.
>>=20
>>=20
>> EXPERIMENTAL: This memo defines an Experimental Protocol for the
>> Internet community.  It does not specify an Internet standard of any
>> kind. Discussion and suggestions for improvement are requested.
>> Distribution of this memo is unlimited.
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To be fair, a small hard-core crowd of four original acolytes that started
it all is recovering from a till-3-AM town-bash in celebration in Singapore
;-) Some may caught me sleeping day after in open area meeting, my co-chair
was even worse for wear ;-)

Hurray!

Just the beginning, we're talking recharter now, accepting tons interesting
pending work into the group and looking fwd' to standards track and many
years of interesting applications in the field ...

--- tony

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:

> If you wonder why there is no big hurray !!!!!!,
> congratulations for the RFC here on the mailing list,
> here are my top guesses:
>
> a) We already had it in Singapore in the BIER WG meeting.
> c) We're all still in jet lag koma after flying back from Singapore
> b) We're all getting ready for thanksgiving
>
> Nevertheless: hurray!!!!!
>
> Happy thanksgiving (applicable to U.S. residents)
>   Toerless
>
> In-Reply-To: <20171120204027.E4CECB81B04@rfc-editor.org>
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 12:40:27PM -0800, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> > A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.
> >
> >
> >         RFC 8279
> >
> >         Title:      Multicast Using Bit Index Explicit
> >                     Replication (BIER)
> >         Author:     I. Wijnands, Ed.,
> >                     E. Rosen, Ed.,
> >                     A. Dolganow,
> >                     T. Przygienda,
> >                     S. Aldrin
> >         Status:     Experimental
> >         Stream:     IETF
> >         Date:       November 2017
> >         Mailbox:    ice@cisco.com,
> >                     erosen@juniper.net,
> >                     andrew.dolganow@nokia.com,
> >                     prz@juniper.net,
> >                     aldrin.ietf@gmail.com
> >         Pages:      43
> >         Characters: 97283
> >         Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:   None
> >
> >         I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-bier-architecture-08.txt
> >
> >         URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8279
> >
> >         DOI:        10.17487/RFC8279
> >
> > This document specifies a new architecture for the forwarding of
> > multicast data packets.  It provides optimal forwarding of multicast
> > packets through a "multicast domain".  However, it does not require a
> > protocol for explicitly building multicast distribution trees, nor
> > does it require intermediate nodes to maintain any per-flow state.
> > This architecture is known as "Bit Index Explicit Replication"
> > (BIER).  When a multicast data packet enters the domain, the ingress
> > router determines the set of egress routers to which the packet needs
> > to be sent.  The ingress router then encapsulates the packet in a
> > BIER header.  The BIER header contains a bit string in which each bit
> > represents exactly one egress router in the domain; to forward the
> > packet to a given set of egress routers, the bits corresponding to
> > those routers are set in the BIER header.  The procedures for
> > forwarding a packet based on its BIER header are specified in this
> > document.  Elimination of the per-flow state and the explicit
> > tree-building protocols results in a considerable simplification.
> >
> > This document is a product of the Bit Indexed Explicit Replication
> Working Group of the IETF.
> >
> >
> > EXPERIMENTAL: This memo defines an Experimental Protocol for the
> > Internet community.  It does not specify an Internet standard of any
> > kind. Discussion and suggestions for improvement are requested.
> > Distribution of this memo is unlimited.
> >
> > This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists.
> > To subscribe or unsubscribe, see
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> >
> > Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the
> > author of the RFC in question, or to rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org.  Unless
> > specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for
> > unlimited distribution.
> >
> >
> > The RFC Editor Team
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> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr">To be fair, a small hard-core crowd of four original acoly=
tes that started it all is recovering from a till-3-AM town-bash in celebra=
tion in Singapore ;-) Some may caught me sleeping day after in open area me=
eting, my co-chair was even worse for wear ;-)=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Hur=
ray!</div><div><br></div><div>Just the beginning, we&#39;re talking rechart=
er now, accepting tons interesting pending work into the group and looking =
fwd&#39; to standards track and many years of interesting applications in t=
he field ...=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>--- tony=C2=A0</div></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 a=
t 3:12 PM, Toerless Eckert <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tte@cs.f=
au.de" target=3D"_blank">tte@cs.fau.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex">If you wonder why there is no big hurray !!!!!!,<br>
congratulations for the RFC here on the mailing list,<br>
here are my top guesses:<br>
<br>
a) We already had it in Singapore in the BIER WG meeting.<br>
c) We&#39;re all still in jet lag koma after flying back from Singapore<br>
b) We&#39;re all getting ready for thanksgiving<br>
<br>
Nevertheless: hurray!!!!!<br>
<br>
Happy thanksgiving (applicable to U.S. residents)<br>
=C2=A0 Toerless<br>
<br>
In-Reply-To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:20171120204027.E4CECB81B04@rfc-editor.or=
g">20171120204027.E4CECB81B04@<wbr>rfc-editor.org</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 12:40:27PM -0800, <a href=3D"mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-=
editor.org">rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org</a> wrote:<br>
&gt; A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.<b=
r>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0RFC 8279<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Title:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Multicast =
Using Bit Index Explicit<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0Replication (BIER)<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Author:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I. Wijnand=
s, Ed.,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0E. Rosen, Ed.,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0A. Dolganow,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0T. Przygienda,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0S. Aldrin<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Status:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Experiment=
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Awesome work everybody, its a true pleasure to be part of this working =
group :-)

Happy thanksgiving for those who are celebrating it!

Thx,

Ice.


> On 22 Nov 2017, at 02:03, Dolganow, Andrew (Nokia - SG/Singapore) =
<andrew.dolganow@nokia.com> wrote:
>=20
> Tony hit a nail in the head=E2=98=BA
> =20
> This has been best multi-vendor work I have ever done at the IETF!!! =
Let=E2=80=99s get BIER rolling out and keep good work coming!
> =20
> Andrew
> =20
> From: BIER <bier-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Tony Przygienda =
<tonysietf@gmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 7:43 AM
> To: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
> Cc: "bier@ietf.org" <bier@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [Bier] RFC 8279 on Multicast Using Bit Index Explicit =
Replication (BIER))
> =20
> To be fair, a small hard-core crowd of four original acolytes that =
started it all is recovering from a till-3-AM town-bash in celebration =
in Singapore ;-) Some may caught me sleeping day after in open area =
meeting, my co-chair was even worse for wear ;-) =20
> =20
> Hurray!
> =20
> Just the beginning, we're talking recharter now, accepting tons =
interesting pending work into the group and looking fwd' to standards =
track and many years of interesting applications in the field ...=20
> =20
> --- tony=20
> =20
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> =
wrote:
>> If you wonder why there is no big hurray !!!!!!,
>> congratulations for the RFC here on the mailing list,
>> here are my top guesses:
>>=20
>> a) We already had it in Singapore in the BIER WG meeting.
>> c) We're all still in jet lag koma after flying back from Singapore
>> b) We're all getting ready for thanksgiving
>>=20
>> Nevertheless: hurray!!!!!
>>=20
>> Happy thanksgiving (applicable to U.S. residents)
>>   Toerless
>>=20
>> In-Reply-To: <20171120204027.E4CECB81B04@rfc-editor.org>
>>=20
>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 12:40:27PM -0800, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org =
wrote:
>> > A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC =
libraries.
>> >
>> >
>> >         RFC 8279
>> >
>> >         Title:      Multicast Using Bit Index Explicit
>> >                     Replication (BIER)
>> >         Author:     I. Wijnands, Ed.,
>> >                     E. Rosen, Ed.,
>> >                     A. Dolganow,
>> >                     T. Przygienda,
>> >                     S. Aldrin
>> >         Status:     Experimental
>> >         Stream:     IETF
>> >         Date:       November 2017
>> >         Mailbox:    ice@cisco.com,
>> >                     erosen@juniper.net,
>> >                     andrew.dolganow@nokia.com,
>> >                     prz@juniper.net,
>> >                     aldrin.ietf@gmail.com
>> >         Pages:      43
>> >         Characters: 97283
>> >         Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:   None
>> >
>> >         I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-bier-architecture-08.txt
>> >
>> >         URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8279
>> >
>> >         DOI:        10.17487/RFC8279
>> >
>> > This document specifies a new architecture for the forwarding of
>> > multicast data packets.  It provides optimal forwarding of =
multicast
>> > packets through a "multicast domain".  However, it does not require =
a
>> > protocol for explicitly building multicast distribution trees, nor
>> > does it require intermediate nodes to maintain any per-flow state.
>> > This architecture is known as "Bit Index Explicit Replication"
>> > (BIER).  When a multicast data packet enters the domain, the =
ingress
>> > router determines the set of egress routers to which the packet =
needs
>> > to be sent.  The ingress router then encapsulates the packet in a
>> > BIER header.  The BIER header contains a bit string in which each =
bit
>> > represents exactly one egress router in the domain; to forward the
>> > packet to a given set of egress routers, the bits corresponding to
>> > those routers are set in the BIER header.  The procedures for
>> > forwarding a packet based on its BIER header are specified in this
>> > document.  Elimination of the per-flow state and the explicit
>> > tree-building protocols results in a considerable simplification.
>> >
>> > This document is a product of the Bit Indexed Explicit Replication =
Working Group of the IETF.
>> >
>> >
>> > EXPERIMENTAL: This memo defines an Experimental Protocol for the
>> > Internet community.  It does not specify an Internet standard of =
any
>> > kind. Discussion and suggestions for improvement are requested.
>> > Distribution of this memo is unlimited.
>> >
>> > This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists.
>> > To subscribe or unsubscribe, see
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>> > Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the
>> > author of the RFC in question, or to rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org.  =
Unless
>> > specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for
>> > unlimited distribution.
>> >
>> >
>> > The RFC Editor Team
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>> >
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>>=20
>> --
>> ---
>> tte@cs.fau.de
>>=20
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Awesome work everybody, its a =
true pleasure to be part of this working group :-)<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Happy thanksgiving for those who are =
celebrating it!</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Thx,</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Ice.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On 22 Nov 2017, at =
02:03, Dolganow, Andrew (Nokia - SG/Singapore) &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:andrew.dolganow@nokia.com" =
class=3D"">andrew.dolganow@nokia.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Tony hit a nail in the head=E2=98=BA<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"">This has been best multi-vendor work I have ever done at the =
IETF!!! Let=E2=80=99s get BIER rolling out and keep good work coming!<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">Andrew<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"">From:&nbsp;BIER &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bier-bounces@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">bier-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt; on behalf of Tony Przygienda =
&lt;tonysietf@gmail.com&gt;<br class=3D"">Date:&nbsp;Wednesday, November =
22, 2017 at 7:43 AM<br class=3D"">To:&nbsp;Toerless Eckert =
&lt;tte@cs.fau.de&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc:&nbsp;"bier@ietf.org" =
&lt;bier@ietf.org&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject:&nbsp;Re: [Bier] RFC 8279 on =
Multicast Using Bit Index Explicit Replication (BIER))<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">To be fair, a small hard-core crowd of =
four original acolytes that started it all is recovering from a =
till-3-AM town-bash in celebration in Singapore ;-) Some may caught me =
sleeping day after in open area meeting,&nbsp;my co-chair was even worse =
for wear ;-)&nbsp;&nbsp;<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">Hurray!<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">Just the beginning, we're talking =
recharter now, accepting tons interesting pending work into the group =
and looking fwd' to standards track and many years of interesting =
applications in the field ...&nbsp;<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">---=
 tony&nbsp;<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at =
3:12 PM, Toerless Eckert &lt;tte@cs.fau.de&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote style=3D"border-style: none none none solid; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: =
0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" class=3D"" =
type=3D"cite">If you wonder why there is no big hurray !!!!!!,<br =
class=3D"">congratulations for the RFC here on the mailing list,<br =
class=3D"">here are my top guesses:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">a) We =
already had it in Singapore in the BIER WG meeting.<br class=3D"">c) =
We're all still in jet lag koma after flying back from Singapore<br =
class=3D"">b) We're all getting ready for thanksgiving<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Nevertheless: hurray!!!!!<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Happy =
thanksgiving (applicable to U.S. residents)<br class=3D"">&nbsp; =
Toerless<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">In-Reply-To: =
&lt;20171120204027.E4CECB81B04@rfc-editor.org&gt;<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 12:40:27PM =
-0800,&nbsp;rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org&nbsp;wrote:<br class=3D"">&gt; A =
new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.<br =
class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; RFC 8279<br class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Title: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Multicast Using Bit =
Index Explicit<br class=3D"">&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Replication (BIER)<br class=3D"">&gt; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Author: &nbsp; &nbsp; I. Wijnands, Ed.,<br =
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&nbsp; &nbsp; E. Rosen, Ed.,<br class=3D"">&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; A. Dolganow,<br =
class=3D"">&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; T. Przygienda,<br class=3D"">&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; S. Aldrin<br =
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&nbsp;&nbsp;prz@juniper.net,<br class=3D"">&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;aldrin.ietf@gmail.com<br class=3D"">&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
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I suggest to add a section pointing out that BIER is a hop-by-hop
forwarding paradigm and the usual considerations apply when tunnels move
the frames to other part  of the network, e.g. in IGP control scheme the
tunnels must be included in the according tree computation.

--- tony

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Xuxiaohu <xuxiaohu@huawei.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Any comments and suggestions are welcome.
>
> Best regards,
> Xiaohu
>
> > -----=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6-----
> > =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-=
drafts@ietf.org]
> > =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2017=E5=B9=B411=E6=9C=8823=E6=97=
=A5 10:49
> > =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Xuxiaohu
> > =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: New Version Notification for
> > draft-xu-bier-non-mpls-encap-over-udp-00.txt
> >
> >
> > A new version of I-D, draft-xu-bier-non-mpls-encap-over-udp-00.txt
> > has been successfully submitted by Xiaohu Xu and posted to the IETF
> repository.
> >
> > Name:         draft-xu-bier-non-mpls-encap-over-udp
> > Revision:     00
> > Title:                Encapsulating Non-MPLS-BIER in UDP
> > Document date:        2017-11-22
> > Group:                Individual Submission
>
....

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I suggest to add a section pointing out that BIER is =
a hop-by-hop forwarding paradigm and the usual considerations apply when tu=
nnels move the frames to other part=C2=A0 of the network, e.g. in IGP contr=
ol scheme the tunnels must be included in the according tree computation. <=
br><br></div>--- tony <br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Xuxiaohu <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:xuxiaohu@huawei.com" target=3D"_blank">xuxiaohu@huawei.com<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
<br>
Any comments and suggestions are welcome.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Xiaohu<br>
<br>
&gt; -----=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6-----<br>
&gt; =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: <a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.or=
g">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@i=
etf.org">internet-drafts@ietf.<wbr>org</a>]<br>
&gt; =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2017=E5=B9=B411=E6=9C=8823=E6=97=
=A5 10:49<br>
&gt; =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Xuxiaohu<br>
&gt; =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: New Version Notification for<br>
&gt; draft-xu-bier-non-mpls-encap-<wbr>over-udp-00.txt<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; A new version of I-D, draft-xu-bier-non-mpls-encap-<wbr>over-udp-00.tx=
t<br>
&gt; has been successfully submitted by Xiaohu Xu and posted to the IETF re=
pository.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Name:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft-xu-bier-non-mpls-encap-<w=
br>over-udp<br>
&gt; Revision:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A000<br>
&gt; Title:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Encapsul=
ating Non-MPLS-BIER in UDP<br>
&gt; Document date:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2017-11-22<br>
&gt; Group:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Individu=
al Submission<br></blockquote><div>.... <br></div></div></div></div>

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The following drafts have been stable for quite a while and are being last
called

   - OAM Requirements for BIER Layer: draft-ietf-bier-oam-requirements;
   - PMTUD for BIER Layer: draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery;
   - Performance Measurement with the Marking Method in BIER Layer:
   draft-ietf-bier-pmmm-oam;

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<div dir=3D"ltr">The following drafts have been stable for quite a while an=
d are being last called<br><div><ul><li>OAM Requirements for BIER Layer: dr=
aft-ietf-bier-oam-<wbr>requirements;</li><li>PMTUD for BIER Layer: draft-ie=
tf-bier-path-<wbr>mtu-discovery;</li><li>Performance Measurement with the M=
arking Method in BIER Layer: draft-ietf-bier-pmmm-oam;</li></ul><p>--- tony=
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I believe we are at a point of agreement for draft-ietf-bier-isis-extension=
s,
and should be ready for WGLC. Do we have agreement here?

Thanks,
Greg

On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Antoni Przygienda <prz@juniper.net> wrote:

> Les, thanks for the work.
>
>
>
> Alia, given some of the changes is a 7 days limited (i.e. only pertaining
> to changes introduced) WG LC appropriate?
>
>
>
> --- tony
>
>
>
>
>
> <ginsberg@cisco.com> spake:
>
>
>
> Alia =E2=80=93
>
>
>
> A new version of the draft has been posted which addresses your comments.
>
>
>
> Sorry this was  not completed as quickly as you hoped, but reviewing the
> comments/changes led to some lively discussion among the co-authors =E2=
=80=93 it
> took us a while to reach consensus on the changes.
>
>
>
> Some responses inline.
>
>
>
> *From:* Alia Atlas [mailto:akatlas@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 4:09 PM
> *To:* bier@ietf.org; isis-wg@ietf.org; draft-ietf-bier-isis-
> extensions@ietf.org
> *Subject:* early AD review of draft-ietf-bier-isis-extensions-05
>
>
>
> I have done an early AD review of draft-ietf-bier-isis-extensions-05 in
> preparation for receiving a request to publish it. First, I would like to
> thank the authors - Les, Tony, Sam and Jeffrey - for their work on this
> document.
>
>
>
> In my ideal timing, this draft would be updated and ready for IETF Last
> Call by Oct 5 so that it could reach the IESG telechat on Oct 26
> with draft-ietf-bier-mpls-encapsulation and draft-ietf-bier-ospf-bier-ext=
ensions.
> It would be great to have 4 drafts approved for RFC publication - or even
> some RFCs!  If we can't make this timeline, then it'll add at least a mon=
th
> or more.
>
>
>
> I do see a number of issues to be addressed.
>
>
>
> Major:
>
>
>
> 1) Sec 4.1: "At present, IS-IS support for a given BIER domain/sub-domain
> is
>    limited to a single area - or to the IS-IS L2 sub-domain."
>
>    Why is there this limitation?  Having just reviewed the ospf draft, th=
e
> detail needed to handle inter-area seems straightforward there.  It'd be =
a
> pity to have different support in ISIS and OSPF...
>
> I didn't see anything about such a limitation in the bier-architecture or
> bier-mpls-encapsulation drafts, so I'm startled to see it here.
>
>
>
> At the very least, some explanation of why IS-IS can't handle inter-area
> and the implications for deployments is needed.
>
>
>
> In Sec 4.2, this is enforced by "BIER sub-TLVs MUST NOT be included when =
a
> prefix reachability
>       advertisement is leaked between levels." but I don't see any
> reasoning for why the BIER sub-TLVs couldn't be included...
>
>
>
> *[Les:] We have removed the restriction.*
>
>
>
> 2) Sec 5.1: This section has concern about restricting the advertisement
> of BIER information in IS-IS for scalability - but it doesn't discuss at
> all when a router would stop advertising the BIER sub-TLVs.  It feels lik=
e
> the section is hunting for a bit of a manageability or operational
> considerations section.  I'm not comfortable with the interoperability
> issues posed by not indicating what triggers should cause advertisements =
or
> withdrawals.   Receiving an advertisement from a BFER seems like a
> reasonable trigger to me, since it indicates an active receiver for the
> <MT, SD>.
>
>
>
> *[Les:] This section has been removed.*
>
>
>
> 3) Sec 5.5 contradicts the last paragraph in Sec 2.1.1.1 in
> draft-ietf-bier-mpls-encapsulation-08 which says" Note that in practice,
> labels only have to be assigned if they are
>    going to be used.  If a particular BIER domain supports BSLs 256 and
>    512, but some SD, say SD 1, only uses BSL 256, then it is not
>    necessary to assign labels that correspond to the combination of SD 1
>    and BSL 512."
>
>
>
> *[Les:] I believe this comment was resolved in the exchange between you
> and Tony.*
>
>
>
> 4) Sec 5.6: "A valid BFR-id MUST be unique within the flooding scope of
> the BIER advertisments."  This doesn't leave scope for expanding to
> inter-area in the future because the issue is not the flooding scope but
> rather the distribution.
>
>
>
> *[Les:] Similarly, this was resolved in the email thread.*
>
>
>
> 5) Sec 6.1: " The sub-TLV advertises a single <MT,SD> combination followe=
d
> by
>    optional sub-sub-TLVs as described in the following sections."
>
> The figure and field descriptions do not include the MT-ID.  There is
> clearly the reserved octet intended for that??
>
>
>
> *[Les:] Tony has already pointed out that the parent TLV has the MTID.*
>
>
>
> 6) Sec 6.2:  This section needs to clearly define the relationship betwee=
n
> the labels and the Set Index in the specified <MT, SD>.  It's also unclea=
r
> whether it is better to advertise all the labels ever needed or be able t=
o
> advertise only labels for a particular sequential number of SIs.   The
> restriction that only one sub-sub-TLV with the same BitStringLength makes
> that impossible (but so does the lack of explicit starting SI).
>
>
>
> *[Les:] Some clarifying text has been added.*
>
>
>
> 7) Sec 6.3: The values for the Length & Tree Type field need to be cleare=
r
> after the figure.  Also, is Tree Type an IANA-managed field??  I don't se=
e
> it in the IANA considerations.  Ca it be different between IS-IS and OSPF=
?
>
>
>
> *[Les:]  As you will see, we have deleted the tree type sub-TLV
> altogether. In its place we inserted a BIER Algorithm (BAR) octet in the
> BIER Info sub-TLV (replacing the =E2=80=9CReserved=E2=80=9D field).  Equi=
valent changes
> will be forthcoming in the OSPF draft so the two drafts will remain
> aligned.*
>
>
>
> Minor:
>
>
>
> a) Sec 2: "Invalid BFR-id: Unassigned BFR-id, consisting of all 0s."
>
> A clearer definition might be "Invalid BFR-ID: The special value of 0 -
> used to indicate that there is not a valid BFR-ID"  The same comment
> applies to "Invalid BMP".
>
>
>
> *[Les:] Done.*
>
>
>
> b) Sec 5.7:  Please add some text about dampening the reports of
> misconfiguration - as usual.
>
>
>
> *[Les:] Done*
>
>
>
> Nits:
>
>
>
> i) Sec 5.1: "supported bitstring lengths MLs "  All the other BIER drafts
> use the acronym  BSL (BitStringLength).  Consistency is frequently useful
> for clarity.
>
>
>
> *[Les:] As this section was removed the issue no longer exists.*
>
>
>
> ii) Sec 6.2: "Length: 1 octet."   Please specify the value!
>
>
>
> *[Les:] This sub-TLV was removed, so again the comment no longer applies.=
*
>
>
>
> *   Les*
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Alia
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I believe we are at a point of agreement for=C2=A0<font co=
lor=3D"#000000"><span style=3D"font-size:12.800000190734863px">draft-ietf-b=
ier-isis-extensions, and should be ready for WGLC. Do we=C2=A0have agreemen=
t here?</span></font><div><font color=3D"#000000"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.800000190734863px"><br></span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#000000">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.800000190734863px">Thanks,</span></font></div><=
div><font color=3D"#000000"><span style=3D"font-size:12.800000190734863px">=
Greg</span></font></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Antoni Przygienda <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:prz@juniper.net" target=3D"_blank">prz@junip=
er.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">







<div bgcolor=3D"white" lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div class=3D"m_-8755959845906960487WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"=
>Les, thanks for the work.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"=
>Alia, given some of the changes is a 7 days limited (i.e. only pertaining =
to changes introduced) WG LC appropriate?
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;=
color:black">--- tony<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gin=
sberg@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">ginsberg@cisco.com</a>&gt; spake:<u></u>=
<u></u></p>
</div>
</div><div><div class=3D"h5">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Alia =E2=80=93</span><u></u><u></=
u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">A new version of the draft has be=
en posted which addresses your comments.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Sorry this was=C2=A0 not complete=
d as quickly as you hoped, but reviewing the comments/changes led to some l=
ively discussion among the co-authors =E2=80=93 it
 took us a while to reach consensus on the changes.</span><u></u><u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Some responses inline.</span><u><=
/u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt">
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:Calibri"> Alia Atlas [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:akatlas@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">akatlas@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 26, 2017 4:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:bier@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">bier@ietf.org=
</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:isis-wg@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">isis-wg@ietf.or=
g</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-bier-isis-extensions@ietf.org" target=
=3D"_blank">draft-ietf-bier-isis-<wbr>extensions@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> early AD review of draft-ietf-bier-isis-<wbr>extensions-05<=
/span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">I have done an early AD r=
eview of draft-ietf-bier-isis-<wbr>extensions-05 in preparation for receivi=
ng a request to publish it. First, I would like to thank the authors - Les,=
 Tony, Sam and Jeffrey - for their work on
 this document.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">In my ideal timing, this =
draft would be updated and ready for IETF Last Call by Oct 5 so that it cou=
ld reach the IESG telechat on Oct 26 with=C2=A0draft-ietf-bier-mpls-<wbr>en=
capsulation and=C2=A0draft-ietf-bier-ospf-bier-<wbr>extensions.
 It would be great to have 4 drafts approved for RFC publication - or even =
some RFCs!=C2=A0 If we can&#39;t make this timeline, then it&#39;ll add at =
least a month or more.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">I do see a number of issu=
es to be addressed.=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">Major:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">1) Sec 4.1:=C2=A0&quot;At=
 present, IS-IS support for a given BIER domain/sub-domain is<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0limited to a single area - or to the IS-IS L2 sub-domain.&quot=
;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0 =C2=A0Why is there=
 this limitation?=C2=A0 Having just reviewed the ospf draft, the detail nee=
ded to handle inter-area seems straightforward there.=C2=A0 It&#39;d be a p=
ity to have different support in ISIS and OSPF...<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">I didn&#39;t see anything=
 about such a limitation in the bier-architecture or bier-mpls-encapsulatio=
n drafts, so I&#39;m startled to see it here.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">At the very least, some e=
xplanation of why IS-IS can&#39;t handle inter-area and the implications fo=
r deployments is needed.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">In Sec 4.2, this is enfor=
ced by &quot;BIER sub-TLVs MUST NOT be included when a prefix reachability<=
br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 advertisement is leaked between levels.&quot; but I do=
n&#39;t see any reasoning for why the BIER sub-TLVs couldn&#39;t be include=
d...<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] We have removed the =
restriction.</span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">2) Sec 5.1: This section =
has concern about restricting the advertisement of BIER information in IS-I=
S for scalability - but it doesn&#39;t discuss at all when a router would s=
top advertising the BIER sub-TLVs.=C2=A0 It feels
 like the section is hunting for a bit of a manageability or operational co=
nsiderations section.=C2=A0 I&#39;m not comfortable with the interoperabili=
ty issues posed by not indicating what triggers should cause advertisements=
 or withdrawals.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Receiving an advertisement
 from a BFER seems like a reasonable trigger to me, since it indicates an a=
ctive receiver for the &lt;MT, SD&gt;.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] This section has bee=
n removed.</span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">3) Sec 5.5 contradicts th=
e last paragraph in Sec 2.1.1.1 in draft-ietf-bier-mpls-<wbr>encapsulation-=
08 which says&quot; Note that in practice, labels only have to be assigned =
if they are<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0going to be used.=C2=A0 If a particular BIER domain supports B=
SLs 256 and<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0512, but some SD, say SD 1, only uses BSL 256, then it is not<=
br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0necessary to assign labels that correspond to the combination =
of SD 1<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0and BSL 512.&quot;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] I believe this comme=
nt was resolved in the exchange between you and Tony.</span></i></b><u></u>=
<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">4) Sec 5.6:=C2=A0&quot;A =
valid BFR-id MUST be unique within the flooding scope of the BIER advertism=
ents.&quot;=C2=A0 This doesn&#39;t leave scope for expanding to inter-area =
in the future because the issue is not the flooding scope but
 rather the distribution.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] Similarly, this was =
resolved in the email thread.</span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">5) Sec 6.1:=C2=A0&quot; T=
he sub-TLV advertises a single &lt;MT,SD&gt; combination followed by<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0optional sub-sub-TLVs as described in the following sections.&=
quot;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">The figure and field desc=
riptions do not include the MT-ID.=C2=A0 There is clearly the reserved octe=
t intended for that??=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] Tony has already poi=
nted out that the parent TLV has the MTID.</span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">6) Sec 6.2:=C2=A0 This se=
ction needs to clearly define the relationship between the labels and the S=
et Index in the specified &lt;MT, SD&gt;.=C2=A0 It&#39;s also unclear wheth=
er it is better to advertise all the labels ever needed
 or be able to advertise only labels for a particular sequential number of =
SIs.=C2=A0 =C2=A0The restriction that only one sub-sub-TLV with the same Bi=
tStringLength makes that impossible (but so does the lack of explicit start=
ing SI).<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] Some clarifying text=
 has been added.</span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">7) Sec 6.3: The values fo=
r the Length &amp; Tree Type field need to be clearer after the figure.=C2=
=A0 Also, is Tree Type an IANA-managed field??=C2=A0 I don&#39;t see it in =
the IANA considerations.=C2=A0 Ca it be different between IS-IS
 and OSPF?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] =C2=A0As you will se=
e, we have deleted the tree type sub-TLV altogether. In its place we insert=
ed a BIER Algorithm (BAR) octet in the BIER
 Info sub-TLV (replacing the =E2=80=9CReserved=E2=80=9D field).=C2=A0 Equiv=
alent changes will be forthcoming in the OSPF draft so the two drafts will =
remain aligned.</span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">Minor:=C2=A0<u></u><u></u=
></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">a) Sec 2:=C2=A0&quot;Inva=
lid BFR-id: Unassigned BFR-id, consisting of all 0s.&quot;<u></u><u></u></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">A clearer definition migh=
t be &quot;Invalid BFR-ID: The special value of 0 - used to indicate that t=
here is not a valid BFR-ID&quot;=C2=A0 The same comment applies to &quot;In=
valid BMP&quot;.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] Done.</span></i></b>=
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">b) Sec 5.7:=C2=A0 Please =
add some text about dampening the reports of misconfiguration - as usual.<u=
></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] Done</span></i></b><=
u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">Nits:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">i) Sec 5.1:=C2=A0&quot;su=
pported bitstring=C2=A0lengths MLs &quot;=C2=A0 All the other BIER drafts u=
se the acronym=C2=A0 BSL (BitStringLength).=C2=A0 Consistency is frequently=
 useful for clarity.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] As this section was =
removed the issue no longer exists.</span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">ii) Sec 6.2:=C2=A0&quot;L=
ength: 1 octet.&quot;=C2=A0 =C2=A0Please specify the value!<u></u><u></u></=
p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] This sub-TLV was rem=
oved, so again the comment no longer applies.</span></i></b><u></u><u></u><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span></i></b><u></u=
><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0=C2=A0 Les</span></i>=
</b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">Regards,<u></u><u></u></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">Alia<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
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Sounds good to me.

Regards,
Alia

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:

> I believe we are at a point of agreement for draft-ietf-bier-isis-extensi=
ons,
> and should be ready for WGLC. Do we have agreement here?
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
>
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Antoni Przygienda <prz@juniper.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Les, thanks for the work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alia, given some of the changes is a 7 days limited (i.e. only pertainin=
g
>> to changes introduced) WG LC appropriate?
>>
>>
>>
>> --- tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <ginsberg@cisco.com> spake:
>>
>>
>>
>> Alia =E2=80=93
>>
>>
>>
>> A new version of the draft has been posted which addresses your comments=
.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry this was  not completed as quickly as you hoped, but reviewing the
>> comments/changes led to some lively discussion among the co-authors =E2=
=80=93 it
>> took us a while to reach consensus on the changes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Some responses inline.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Alia Atlas [mailto:akatlas@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 4:09 PM
>> *To:* bier@ietf.org; isis-wg@ietf.org; draft-ietf-bier-isis-extension
>> s@ietf.org
>> *Subject:* early AD review of draft-ietf-bier-isis-extensions-05
>>
>>
>>
>> I have done an early AD review of draft-ietf-bier-isis-extensions-05 in
>> preparation for receiving a request to publish it. First, I would like t=
o
>> thank the authors - Les, Tony, Sam and Jeffrey - for their work on this
>> document.
>>
>>
>>
>> In my ideal timing, this draft would be updated and ready for IETF Last
>> Call by Oct 5 so that it could reach the IESG telechat on Oct 26
>> with draft-ietf-bier-mpls-encapsulation and draft-ietf-bier-ospf-bier-ex=
tensions.
>> It would be great to have 4 drafts approved for RFC publication - or eve=
n
>> some RFCs!  If we can't make this timeline, then it'll add at least a mo=
nth
>> or more.
>>
>>
>>
>> I do see a number of issues to be addressed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Major:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) Sec 4.1: "At present, IS-IS support for a given BIER domain/sub-domai=
n
>> is
>>    limited to a single area - or to the IS-IS L2 sub-domain."
>>
>>    Why is there this limitation?  Having just reviewed the ospf draft,
>> the detail needed to handle inter-area seems straightforward there.  It'=
d
>> be a pity to have different support in ISIS and OSPF...
>>
>> I didn't see anything about such a limitation in the bier-architecture o=
r
>> bier-mpls-encapsulation drafts, so I'm startled to see it here.
>>
>>
>>
>> At the very least, some explanation of why IS-IS can't handle inter-area
>> and the implications for deployments is needed.
>>
>>
>>
>> In Sec 4.2, this is enforced by "BIER sub-TLVs MUST NOT be included when
>> a prefix reachability
>>       advertisement is leaked between levels." but I don't see any
>> reasoning for why the BIER sub-TLVs couldn't be included...
>>
>>
>>
>> *[Les:] We have removed the restriction.*
>>
>>
>>
>> 2) Sec 5.1: This section has concern about restricting the advertisement
>> of BIER information in IS-IS for scalability - but it doesn't discuss at
>> all when a router would stop advertising the BIER sub-TLVs.  It feels li=
ke
>> the section is hunting for a bit of a manageability or operational
>> considerations section.  I'm not comfortable with the interoperability
>> issues posed by not indicating what triggers should cause advertisements=
 or
>> withdrawals.   Receiving an advertisement from a BFER seems like a
>> reasonable trigger to me, since it indicates an active receiver for the
>> <MT, SD>.
>>
>>
>>
>> *[Les:] This section has been removed.*
>>
>>
>>
>> 3) Sec 5.5 contradicts the last paragraph in Sec 2.1.1.1 in
>> draft-ietf-bier-mpls-encapsulation-08 which says" Note that in practice,
>> labels only have to be assigned if they are
>>    going to be used.  If a particular BIER domain supports BSLs 256 and
>>    512, but some SD, say SD 1, only uses BSL 256, then it is not
>>    necessary to assign labels that correspond to the combination of SD 1
>>    and BSL 512."
>>
>>
>>
>> *[Les:] I believe this comment was resolved in the exchange between you
>> and Tony.*
>>
>>
>>
>> 4) Sec 5.6: "A valid BFR-id MUST be unique within the flooding scope of
>> the BIER advertisments."  This doesn't leave scope for expanding to
>> inter-area in the future because the issue is not the flooding scope but
>> rather the distribution.
>>
>>
>>
>> *[Les:] Similarly, this was resolved in the email thread.*
>>
>>
>>
>> 5) Sec 6.1: " The sub-TLV advertises a single <MT,SD> combination
>> followed by
>>    optional sub-sub-TLVs as described in the following sections."
>>
>> The figure and field descriptions do not include the MT-ID.  There is
>> clearly the reserved octet intended for that??
>>
>>
>>
>> *[Les:] Tony has already pointed out that the parent TLV has the MTID.*
>>
>>
>>
>> 6) Sec 6.2:  This section needs to clearly define the relationship
>> between the labels and the Set Index in the specified <MT, SD>.  It's al=
so
>> unclear whether it is better to advertise all the labels ever needed or =
be
>> able to advertise only labels for a particular sequential number of SIs.
>>  The restriction that only one sub-sub-TLV with the same BitStringLength
>> makes that impossible (but so does the lack of explicit starting SI).
>>
>>
>>
>> *[Les:] Some clarifying text has been added.*
>>
>>
>>
>> 7) Sec 6.3: The values for the Length & Tree Type field need to be
>> clearer after the figure.  Also, is Tree Type an IANA-managed field??  I
>> don't see it in the IANA considerations.  Ca it be different between IS-=
IS
>> and OSPF?
>>
>>
>>
>> *[Les:]  As you will see, we have deleted the tree type sub-TLV
>> altogether. In its place we inserted a BIER Algorithm (BAR) octet in the
>> BIER Info sub-TLV (replacing the =E2=80=9CReserved=E2=80=9D field).  Equ=
ivalent changes
>> will be forthcoming in the OSPF draft so the two drafts will remain
>> aligned.*
>>
>>
>>
>> Minor:
>>
>>
>>
>> a) Sec 2: "Invalid BFR-id: Unassigned BFR-id, consisting of all 0s."
>>
>> A clearer definition might be "Invalid BFR-ID: The special value of 0 -
>> used to indicate that there is not a valid BFR-ID"  The same comment
>> applies to "Invalid BMP".
>>
>>
>>
>> *[Les:] Done.*
>>
>>
>>
>> b) Sec 5.7:  Please add some text about dampening the reports of
>> misconfiguration - as usual.
>>
>>
>>
>> *[Les:] Done*
>>
>>
>>
>> Nits:
>>
>>
>>
>> i) Sec 5.1: "supported bitstring lengths MLs "  All the other BIER draft=
s
>> use the acronym  BSL (BitStringLength).  Consistency is frequently usefu=
l
>> for clarity.
>>
>>
>>
>> *[Les:] As this section was removed the issue no longer exists.*
>>
>>
>>
>> ii) Sec 6.2: "Length: 1 octet."   Please specify the value!
>>
>>
>>
>> *[Les:] This sub-TLV was removed, so again the comment no longer applies=
.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *   Les*
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alia
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> BIER mailing list
>> BIER@ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sounds good to me.<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>A=
lia</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On=
 Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Greg Shepherd <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:gjshep@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gjshep@gmail.com</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I believe we =
are at a point of agreement for=C2=A0<font color=3D"#000000"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12.800000190734863px">draft-ietf-bier-isis-<wbr>extensions, and =
should be ready for WGLC. Do we=C2=A0have agreement here?</span></font><div=
><font color=3D"#000000"><span style=3D"font-size:12.800000190734863px"><br=
></span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#000000"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.800000190734863px">Thanks,</span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#00000=
0"><span style=3D"font-size:12.800000190734863px">Greg</span></font></div><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div cl=
ass=3D"h5">On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Antoni Przygienda <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:prz@juniper.net" target=3D"_blank">prz@juniper.n=
et</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div=
><div class=3D"h5">







<div bgcolor=3D"white" lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div class=3D"m_4802606901352415106m_-8755959845906960487WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"=
>Les, thanks for the work.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"=
>Alia, given some of the changes is a 7 days limited (i.e. only pertaining =
to changes introduced) WG LC appropriate?
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;=
color:black">--- tony<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gin=
sberg@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">ginsberg@cisco.com</a>&gt; spake:<u></u>=
<u></u></p>
</div>
</div><div><div class=3D"m_4802606901352415106h5">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Alia =E2=80=93</span><u></u><u></=
u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">A new version of the draft has be=
en posted which addresses your comments.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Sorry this was=C2=A0 not complete=
d as quickly as you hoped, but reviewing the comments/changes led to some l=
ively discussion among the co-authors =E2=80=93 it
 took us a while to reach consensus on the changes.</span><u></u><u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Some responses inline.</span><u><=
/u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt">
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:Calibri"> Alia Atlas [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:akatlas@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">akatlas@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 26, 2017 4:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:bier@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">bier@ietf.org=
</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:isis-wg@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">isis-wg@ietf.or=
g</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-bier-isis-extensions@ietf.org" target=
=3D"_blank">draft-ietf-bier-isis-extension<wbr>s@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> early AD review of draft-ietf-bier-isis-extension<wbr>s-05<=
/span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">I have done an early AD r=
eview of draft-ietf-bier-isis-extension<wbr>s-05 in preparation for receivi=
ng a request to publish it. First, I would like to thank the authors - Les,=
 Tony, Sam and Jeffrey - for their work on
 this document.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">In my ideal timing, this =
draft would be updated and ready for IETF Last Call by Oct 5 so that it cou=
ld reach the IESG telechat on Oct 26 with=C2=A0draft-ietf-bier-mpls-enca<wb=
r>psulation and=C2=A0draft-ietf-bier-ospf-bier-<wbr>extensions.
 It would be great to have 4 drafts approved for RFC publication - or even =
some RFCs!=C2=A0 If we can&#39;t make this timeline, then it&#39;ll add at =
least a month or more.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">I do see a number of issu=
es to be addressed.=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">Major:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">1) Sec 4.1:=C2=A0&quot;At=
 present, IS-IS support for a given BIER domain/sub-domain is<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0limited to a single area - or to the IS-IS L2 sub-domain.&quot=
;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0 =C2=A0Why is there=
 this limitation?=C2=A0 Having just reviewed the ospf draft, the detail nee=
ded to handle inter-area seems straightforward there.=C2=A0 It&#39;d be a p=
ity to have different support in ISIS and OSPF...<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">I didn&#39;t see anything=
 about such a limitation in the bier-architecture or bier-mpls-encapsulatio=
n drafts, so I&#39;m startled to see it here.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">At the very least, some e=
xplanation of why IS-IS can&#39;t handle inter-area and the implications fo=
r deployments is needed.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">In Sec 4.2, this is enfor=
ced by &quot;BIER sub-TLVs MUST NOT be included when a prefix reachability<=
br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 advertisement is leaked between levels.&quot; but I do=
n&#39;t see any reasoning for why the BIER sub-TLVs couldn&#39;t be include=
d...<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] We have removed the =
restriction.</span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">2) Sec 5.1: This section =
has concern about restricting the advertisement of BIER information in IS-I=
S for scalability - but it doesn&#39;t discuss at all when a router would s=
top advertising the BIER sub-TLVs.=C2=A0 It feels
 like the section is hunting for a bit of a manageability or operational co=
nsiderations section.=C2=A0 I&#39;m not comfortable with the interoperabili=
ty issues posed by not indicating what triggers should cause advertisements=
 or withdrawals.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Receiving an advertisement
 from a BFER seems like a reasonable trigger to me, since it indicates an a=
ctive receiver for the &lt;MT, SD&gt;.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] This section has bee=
n removed.</span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">3) Sec 5.5 contradicts th=
e last paragraph in Sec 2.1.1.1 in draft-ietf-bier-mpls-encapsula<wbr>tion-=
08 which says&quot; Note that in practice, labels only have to be assigned =
if they are<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0going to be used.=C2=A0 If a particular BIER domain supports B=
SLs 256 and<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0512, but some SD, say SD 1, only uses BSL 256, then it is not<=
br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0necessary to assign labels that correspond to the combination =
of SD 1<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0and BSL 512.&quot;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] I believe this comme=
nt was resolved in the exchange between you and Tony.</span></i></b><u></u>=
<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">4) Sec 5.6:=C2=A0&quot;A =
valid BFR-id MUST be unique within the flooding scope of the BIER advertism=
ents.&quot;=C2=A0 This doesn&#39;t leave scope for expanding to inter-area =
in the future because the issue is not the flooding scope but
 rather the distribution.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] Similarly, this was =
resolved in the email thread.</span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">5) Sec 6.1:=C2=A0&quot; T=
he sub-TLV advertises a single &lt;MT,SD&gt; combination followed by<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0optional sub-sub-TLVs as described in the following sections.&=
quot;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">The figure and field desc=
riptions do not include the MT-ID.=C2=A0 There is clearly the reserved octe=
t intended for that??=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] Tony has already poi=
nted out that the parent TLV has the MTID.</span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">6) Sec 6.2:=C2=A0 This se=
ction needs to clearly define the relationship between the labels and the S=
et Index in the specified &lt;MT, SD&gt;.=C2=A0 It&#39;s also unclear wheth=
er it is better to advertise all the labels ever needed
 or be able to advertise only labels for a particular sequential number of =
SIs.=C2=A0 =C2=A0The restriction that only one sub-sub-TLV with the same Bi=
tStringLength makes that impossible (but so does the lack of explicit start=
ing SI).<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] Some clarifying text=
 has been added.</span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">7) Sec 6.3: The values fo=
r the Length &amp; Tree Type field need to be clearer after the figure.=C2=
=A0 Also, is Tree Type an IANA-managed field??=C2=A0 I don&#39;t see it in =
the IANA considerations.=C2=A0 Ca it be different between IS-IS
 and OSPF?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] =C2=A0As you will se=
e, we have deleted the tree type sub-TLV altogether. In its place we insert=
ed a BIER Algorithm (BAR) octet in the BIER
 Info sub-TLV (replacing the =E2=80=9CReserved=E2=80=9D field).=C2=A0 Equiv=
alent changes will be forthcoming in the OSPF draft so the two drafts will =
remain aligned.</span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">Minor:=C2=A0<u></u><u></u=
></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">a) Sec 2:=C2=A0&quot;Inva=
lid BFR-id: Unassigned BFR-id, consisting of all 0s.&quot;<u></u><u></u></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">A clearer definition migh=
t be &quot;Invalid BFR-ID: The special value of 0 - used to indicate that t=
here is not a valid BFR-ID&quot;=C2=A0 The same comment applies to &quot;In=
valid BMP&quot;.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] Done.</span></i></b>=
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">b) Sec 5.7:=C2=A0 Please =
add some text about dampening the reports of misconfiguration - as usual.<u=
></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] Done</span></i></b><=
u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">Nits:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">i) Sec 5.1:=C2=A0&quot;su=
pported bitstring=C2=A0lengths MLs &quot;=C2=A0 All the other BIER drafts u=
se the acronym=C2=A0 BSL (BitStringLength).=C2=A0 Consistency is frequently=
 useful for clarity.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] As this section was =
removed the issue no longer exists.</span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">ii) Sec 6.2:=C2=A0&quot;L=
ength: 1 octet.&quot;=C2=A0 =C2=A0Please specify the value!<u></u><u></u></=
p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Les:] This sub-TLV was rem=
oved, so again the comment no longer applies.</span></i></b><u></u><u></u><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span></i></b><u></u=
><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0=C2=A0 Les</span></i>=
</b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">Regards,<u></u><u></u></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in">Alia<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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With those LCs we are issuing a call for IPR disclosures

>From my side:
  * PMTUD has no further undisclosed IPR I'm aware off

--- tony

On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
wrote:

> The following drafts have been stable for quite a while and are being last
> called
>
>    - OAM Requirements for BIER Layer: draft-ietf-bier-oam-requirements;
>    - PMTUD for BIER Layer: draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery;
>    - Performance Measurement with the Marking Method in BIER Layer:
>    draft-ietf-bier-pmmm-oam;
>
> --- tony
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>With those LCs we are issuing a call for IP=
R disclosures<br><br></div>From my side: <br></div>=C2=A0 * PMTUD has no fu=
rther undisclosed IPR I&#39;m aware off <br><br></div>--- tony <br></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 29, 201=
7 at 3:34 PM, Tony Przygienda <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tonys=
ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tonysietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">The following drafts ha=
ve been stable for quite a while and are being last called<br><div><ul><li>=
OAM Requirements for BIER Layer: draft-ietf-bier-oam-requiremen<wbr>ts;</li=
><li>PMTUD for BIER Layer: draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-<wbr>discovery;</li><li=
>Performance Measurement with the Marking Method in BIER Layer: draft-ietf-=
bier-pmmm-oam;</li></ul><p>--- tony <br></p></div></div>
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Hi Tony, et. al,
I support progressing all three drafts as co-author of each.

IPR has been disclosed only on PMTUD in due time and I don't know of any
other IPR related to any of the three drafts listed,

Regards,
Greg

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
wrote:

> With those LCs we are issuing a call for IPR disclosures
>
> From my side:
>   * PMTUD has no further undisclosed IPR I'm aware off
>
> --- tony
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The following drafts have been stable for quite a while and are being
>> last called
>>
>>    - OAM Requirements for BIER Layer: draft-ietf-bier-oam-requirements;
>>    - PMTUD for BIER Layer: draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery;
>>    - Performance Measurement with the Marking Method in BIER Layer:
>>    draft-ietf-bier-pmmm-oam;
>>
>> --- tony
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Tony, et. al,<div><div>I support progressing all three =
drafts as co-author of each.</div><div><br></div><div>IPR has been disclose=
d only on PMTUD in due time and I don&#39;t know of any other IPR related t=
o any of the three drafts listed,</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div></=
div><div>Greg</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Tony Przygienda <span dir=3D"ltr">=
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tonysietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tonysietf@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div><div><div>With those LCs we are issuing a call for IPR disclosures=
<br><br></div>From my side: <br></div>=C2=A0 * PMTUD has no further undiscl=
osed IPR I&#39;m aware off <br><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#88888=
8"><br></font></span></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">-=
-- tony <br></font></span></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Tony Prz=
ygienda <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tonysietf@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">tonysietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><div><div c=
lass=3D"h5"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">The following d=
rafts have been stable for quite a while and are being last called<br><div>=
<ul><li>OAM Requirements for BIER Layer: draft-ietf-bier-oam-requiremen<wbr=
>ts;</li><li>PMTUD for BIER Layer: draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-disco<wbr>very;=
</li><li>Performance Measurement with the Marking Method in BIER Layer: dra=
ft-ietf-bier-pmmm-oam;</li></ul><p>--- tony <br></p></div></div>
</blockquote></div></div></div><br></div>
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