From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Dec 10 17:57:27 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA23371 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:57:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AUDGO-0004hi-Px for bridge-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:57:01 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBAMv08C018078 for bridge-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:57:00 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AUDGO-0004hS-Cy; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:57:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AUDG6-0004h7-Sv for bridge-mib@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:56:43 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA23356 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:56:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AUDFy-0004IN-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:56:34 -0500 Received: from ctron-dnm.enterasys.com ([12.25.1.120] ident=firewall-user) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AUDFy-0004IJ-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:56:34 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ctron-dnm.enterasys.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA11085 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:57:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from nhrocavg2(134.141.79.124) by ctron-dnm.enterasys.com via smap (4.1) id xma011050; Wed, 10 Dec 03 17:56:35 -0500 Received: from NHROCCNC2.ets.enterasys.com ([134.141.79.124]) by 134.141.79.124 with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:55:30 -0500 Received: from source ([134.141.79.122]) by host ([134.141.79.124]) with SMTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:55:30 -0500 Received: from nhrocmbx1 ([134.141.79.104]) by NHROCCNC2.ets.enterasys.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:55:30 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:55:29 -0500 Message-ID: <6D745637A7E0F94DA070743C55CDA9BA013B1745@NHROCMBX1.ets.enterasys.com> Thread-Topic: VLAN Thread-Index: AcO/M62VS770bWhGSdWi2PXkNbxTjAAOb7hA From: "Harrington, David" To: , , , , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2003 22:55:30.0093 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5A04DD0:01C3BF70] X-pstn-version: pmps:sps_win32_1_1_0c1 pase:2.0 X-pstn-levels: (C:83.3688 M:99.5542 P:95.9108 R:95.9108 S:65.2440 ) X-pstn-settings: 4 (0.2500:0.7500) p:13 m:13 C:14 r:13 X-pstn-addresses: from forward (org good) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bridge-mib] RE: VLAN Sender: bridge-mib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: bridge-mib-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: bridge-mib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Did you try searching the web for "VLAN Manager"? Because there may be differences in the VLAN configuration requirements of various vendors, that functionality is typically available in tools from the vendor of the equipment that has the VLAN functionality. So you should try contacting the equipment vendor. I know VLAN Manager tools are available from Enterasys, Nortel, 3Com, Cisco, Fore, Foundry, Alcatel, Extreme, Avaya and others. Management platforms such as HPOV and Spectrum offer vendor-neutral VLAN monitoring and management, as much as they can given vendor variations. A number of special-purpose tools for VLAN Management are also available. Look at Bradford Software, for example. You might also want to check the web foe open source tools that do VLAN management. I recommend that you try to locate tools that support the IEEE 802.1Q standard for VLANs and use the SNMP mib in RFC2674 to manage the devices. Hope this helps, dbh > -----Original Message----- > From: unknown abcdef [mailto:whoever@postmaster.co.uk]=20 > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:14 AM > To: ah_smith@acm.org; e.cardona@CableLabs.com;=20 > nwnetworks@dial.pipex.com; mibs@ops.ietf.org; bridge-mib@ietf.org > Subject: VLAN >=20 >=20 > Hi all, >=20 >=20 >=20 > would anyone lead me to a management tool to manage VLAN, I=20 > mean I have a switched network and I want to manage it using=20 > management tools. any help will be appreciated. >=20 >=20 > ___________________________________________________=20 > Cost effective technology solutions for business. Sign up for=20 > a free trial today! >=20 http://www.officemaster.net _______________________________________________ Bridge-mib mailing list Bridge-mib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bridge-mib From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Dec 11 02:41:33 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA21218 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:41:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AULRZ-0007NG-5t for bridge-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:41:05 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBB7f5wQ028330 for bridge-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:41:05 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AULRX-0007Mn-2r; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:41:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AU4Ax-0001qd-2s for bridge-mib@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:14:47 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA10802 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:14:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AU4Aw-0001a9-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:14:46 -0500 Received: from smtp7.uk1.bibliotech.net ([212.57.34.105]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AU4Av-0001a5-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:14:45 -0500 Received: from pmweb18.uk1.bibliotech.net ([212.57.34.146]) by smtp7.uk1.bibliotech.net with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 1AU4Af-0006pM-00; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:14:29 +0000 Received: from pmweb by pmweb18.uk1.bibliotech.net with local (Exim 4.04) id 1AU4AZ-0000Gq-00; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:14:23 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) From: unknown abcdef To: ah_smith@acm.org, e.cardona@CableLabs.com, nwnetworks@dial.pipex.com, mibs@ops.ietf.org, bridge-mib@ietf.org Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:14:23 +0300 X-Postmaster: Sent from Postmaster http://www.postmaster.co.uk/, the world's premier web based email service, based in London, England. X-Postmaster-Trace: Account name: whoever; Domain name: postmaster.co.uk; Local time: Wed Dec 10 16:14:23 2003; Local host: pmweb18.uk1.bibliotech.n et; Remote host: 66.198.41.17; Referer site: www.postmaster.co.uk X-Complaints-To: General account for reporting spam and other abuse of the service , IT coordinator at responsible organisation X-Postmaster-Team-Photo: http://www.postmaster.co.uk/static/en/nav/credits .html Message-Id: Reply-To: whoever@postmaster.co.uk Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [Bridge-mib] VLAN Sender: bridge-mib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: bridge-mib-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: bridge-mib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Hi all, would anyone lead me to a management tool to manage VLAN, I mean I have a switched network and I want to manage it using management tools. any help will be appreciated. ___________________________________________________ Cost effective technology solutions for business. Sign up for a free trial today! http://www.officemaster.net _______________________________________________ Bridge-mib mailing list Bridge-mib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bridge-mib From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Dec 16 03:01:31 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA03677 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 03:01:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AWA8e-0005Q1-Mt for bridge-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 03:01:04 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBG814G5020823 for bridge-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 03:01:04 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AWA8b-0005Pc-SS; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 03:01:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AW0My-00006I-Qg for bridge-mib@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:35:12 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA01629 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:35:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AW0Mw-00020U-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:35:10 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AW0Mw-00020N-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:35:10 -0500 Received: from web40412.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.78.109]) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AW0Mv-0001zG-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:35:09 -0500 Message-ID: <20031215213439.95794.qmail@web40412.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [148.241.200.189] by web40412.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:34:39 CST Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:34:39 -0600 (CST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?GALERIA=20DE=20COMPUTO?= Subject: [Bridge-mib] Reading Associated Station (to an AP) Mac Address To: bridge-mib@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-632402223-1071524079=:94684" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: bridge-mib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: bridge-mib-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: bridge-mib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , --0-632402223-1071524079=:94684 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id QAA01630 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, My task is as following:- I have a Orinoco AP-1000 and AP-2000. 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--0-632402223-1071524079=:94684-- _______________________________________________ Bridge-mib mailing list Bridge-mib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bridge-mib From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Dec 16 10:51:32 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA20443 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AWHTU-0007g3-NR for bridge-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:51:05 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBGFp4q7029511 for bridge-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:51:04 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AWHTT-0007fV-RY; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:51:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AWHT6-0007cH-VS for bridge-mib@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:50:40 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA20288 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:50:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AWHT4-0006un-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:50:38 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AWHT2-0006ud-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:50:37 -0500 Received: from [65.246.255.50] (helo=manatick) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AWHFb-0004Jr-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:36:43 -0500 Received: from auemail2.lucent.com ([192.11.223.163] helo=auemail2.firewall.lucent.com) by manatick with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AWGKN-0000DT-Ns for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:37:35 -0500 Received: from nl0006exch001h.wins.lucent.com (h135-85-76-62.lucent.com [135.85.76.62]) by auemail2.firewall.lucent.com (Switch-2.2.8/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id hBGEb4o06692 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:37:22 -0600 (CST) Received: by nl0006exch001h.nl.lucent.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:35:34 +0100 Message-ID: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B155032D9570@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com> From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" To: "Bridge-Mib (E-mail)" Subject: FW: [Bridge-mib] Reading Associated Station (to an AP) Mac Addres s Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:35:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: bridge-mib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: bridge-mib-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: bridge-mib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , An answer from one of the developers. Forwarded with permission, Thanks Loeke. Thanks, Bert -----Original Message----- From: Brederveld, Loeke (loeke) [mailto:brederveld@agere.com] Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 14:07 To: bepichardo@yahoo.com Cc: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) Subject: RE: [Bridge-mib] Reading Associated Station (to an AP) Mac Address Both the AP-1000 and the AP-2000 do have a Bridge learn table, which can be read via the standard Bridge MIB. In this table, all MAC addresses listed for interface 2 and 3 are units in the association tables of the respective wireless interfaces. Note that on the wireless interface, no learntabel time-out is implemented. The AP-1000, (from version 3.84 and above if I remember correctly) does also has a MIB function to list the associated stations with some statistical information like frames received and running average of the SNR. This is defined in a private MIB. If you like to play with this information, please let me know and I can forward you that MIB definition. Regards, Loeke Brederveld, Agere Systems Brederveld@Agere.com -----Original Message----- From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen@lucent.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 13:17 To: Brederveld, Loeke (loeke) Subject: FW: [Bridge-mib] Reading Associated Station (to an AP) Mac Address Loeke, maybe a question you can answer? Thanks, Bert -----Original Message----- From: GALERIA DE COMPUTO [mailto:bepichardo@yahoo.com] Sent: maandag 15 december 2003 22:35 To: bridge-mib@ietf.org Subject: [Bridge-mib] Reading Associated Station (to an AP) Mac Address Hi, My task is as following:- I have a Orinoco AP-1000 and AP-2000. How Can I read OIDs which shows a list of MAC address of associated station to the AP using net-snmp software?. Thank you. Best regards, Blanca. _______________________________________________ Bridge-mib mailing list Bridge-mib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bridge-mib From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Dec 22 03:00:37 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA06750 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 03:00:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AYKz0-0006n2-Dt for bridge-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 03:00:08 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBM805si026072 for bridge-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 03:00:05 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AYKyx-0006mD-Fr; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 03:00:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AYCLp-0006Et-ID for bridge-mib@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:47:18 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA08540 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:47:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AYCLi-000483-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:46:58 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AYCLI-00047G-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:46:32 -0500 Received: from ihemail1.lucent.com ([192.11.222.161] helo=ihemail1.firewall.lucent.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AYCLH-00044O-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:46:31 -0500 Received: from nl0006exch001h.wins.lucent.com (h135-85-76-62.lucent.com [135.85.76.62]) by ihemail1.firewall.lucent.com (Switch-2.2.8/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id hBLMi2U17211 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:45:06 -0600 (CST) Received: by nl0006exch001h.nl.lucent.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:43:48 +0100 Message-ID: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B155032D9EBC@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com> From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" To: j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de, "C. M. Heard" Cc: "mibs (E-mail)" Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:43:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Subject: [Bridge-mib] RE: Please review and comment: draft-ietf-ops-vlanid-tc-mib-00.tx t Sender: bridge-mib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: bridge-mib-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: bridge-mib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:03:50AM -0700, C. M. Heard wrote: > > > > > > The real interesting question is how RFC 2674 should pick up this > > > definition. Is the idea that they import form the new TC MIB and > > > just remove their definition? That might break other imports. If > > > they import and keep the original definition in RFC 2674, you will > > > have to distinguish the two TCs with the same name, which is likely > > > to test the quality of MIB parsers. > > > > > > So perhaps the new TCs should in fact go into an update of RFC 2674 > > > rather than introducing a new module? This would at least side-step > > > this interesting problem... > > Another way to side step it is to rename the TCs in my document I can name them VlanIdentifier VlanIdentifierOrAny VlanIdentifierOrNone A quick check seems to indicate they have not yet been used in IETF MIB modules. comments? > > This approach would solve the "legal" problems but it does > > have some significant drawbacks: > > > > - It's necessary to re-spin RFC 2674. Bert has suggested an > > incremental update as one way to get around this. > > > > - It causes any module that imports VlanID and kin to depend > > normatively on the P-BRIDGE-MIB. The upshot would be that absent a > > variance of some kind, no module importing VlanID and kin could > > advance on the standards track faster than P-BRIDGE-MIB. That's not > > desirable, because changes to things that are unrelated to VlanID > > and kin could hold back advancement. > > So what is your suggestion how RFC 2674 should pick up the new TCs? Or > is your suggestion to leave RFC 2674 alone? > And with my suggested approach above we can leave 2674 alone till it needs to be opened for other reasons. Bert > /js _______________________________________________ Bridge-mib mailing list Bridge-mib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bridge-mib From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Dec 22 03:00:37 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA06752 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 03:00:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AYKz0-0006mz-9T for bridge-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 03:00:08 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBM805t3026069 for bridge-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 03:00:05 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AYKyw-0006lx-I0; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 03:00:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AYCKD-0006CU-QZ for bridge-mib@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:45:28 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA08481 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:45:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AYCK6-00042W-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:45:18 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AYCJg-000421-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:44:52 -0500 Received: from ihemail2.lucent.com ([192.11.222.163] helo=ihemail2.firewall.lucent.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AYCJb-00040c-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:44:52 -0500 Received: from nl0006exch001h.wins.lucent.com (h135-85-76-62.lucent.com [135.85.76.62]) by ihemail2.firewall.lucent.com (Switch-2.2.8/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id hBLMhne13779 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:43:50 -0600 (CST) Received: by nl0006exch001h.nl.lucent.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:43:48 +0100 Message-ID: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B155032D9EBB@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com> From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" To: Mark Ellison , "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" Cc: mibs@ops.ietf.org Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:43:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Subject: [Bridge-mib] RE: Please review and comment: draft-ietf-ops-vlanid-tc-mib-00.tx t Sender: bridge-mib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: bridge-mib-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: bridge-mib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sorry for late reaction... but I am now again looking at this document and the discussion that we had back in October. inline > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Ellison [mailto:ellison@ieee.org] > Sent: donderdag 2 oktober 2003 20:12 > To: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) > Cc: Mark Ellison; mibs@ops.ietf.org > Subject: Re: Please review and comment: > draft-ietf-ops-vlanid-tc-mib-00.txt > > > Hi Bert, > > I'm wondering if there could be any mib or pib definition requiring a > range of ( 0 | 1..4094 | 4095 ) for possible values? > Mark, I have not seen anyone react to this as a option that they wanted, so for now I am not going to include it. It can of course always be added later if a need arises. By the way, what woyuld you call/name that TC? Bert > Regards, > > Mark > > > _______________________________________________ Bridge-mib mailing list Bridge-mib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bridge-mib From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Dec 31 11:57:30 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA17804 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:57:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AbjeY-0004t6-Aq for bridge-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:57:02 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBVGv2dF018782 for bridge-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:57:02 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AbjeX-0004sW-C2; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:57:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AbjeE-0004rO-ST for bridge-mib@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:56:42 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA17738 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:56:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AbjeD-0003sf-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:56:41 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AbjcH-0003n2-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:54:42 -0500 Received: from ihemail2.lucent.com ([192.11.222.163] helo=ihemail2.firewall.lucent.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AbjaL-0003hC-00 for bridge-mib@ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:52:41 -0500 Received: from nl0006exch001h.wins.lucent.com (h135-85-76-62.lucent.com [135.85.76.62]) by ihemail2.firewall.lucent.com (Switch-2.2.8/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id hBVGq7e03335 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:52:07 -0600 (CST) Received: by nl0006exch001h.nl.lucent.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 17:52:06 +0100 Message-ID: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B155033D2F31@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com> From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" To: "Bridge-Mib (E-mail)" Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 17:51:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Subject: [Bridge-mib] FW: Please review and comment: draft-ietf-ops-vlanid-tc-mib-00.tx t Sender: bridge-mib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: bridge-mib-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: bridge-mib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Any comments? Thanks, Bert -----Original Message----- From: Mark Ellison [mailto:ellison@ieee.org] Sent: woensdag 31 december 2003 20:04 To: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) Cc: mibs@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: Please review and comment: draft-ietf-ops-vlanid-tc-mib-00.tx t Hi Bert, Thanks for your reply. I think I'd call a TC with a value range of Integer32 { 0 | 1..4094 | 4095 } a VlanIdReference or VlanIdAssociation. This TC would be useful when defining an object that refers to a vlan. For example, a table where each entry can be associated with none, one, or any vlan. One alternative, with the existing TCs, would be to use VlanIdOrAny, but have the agent return noSuchInstance when there is no association with a vlan. Another alternative, with the existing TCs, would be to use VlanIdOrNone, and not have use of the special any/4095 value. Regards, Mark Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote: >Sorry for late reaction... but I am now again looking at >this document and the discussion that we had back in October. > >inline > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Mark Ellison [mailto:ellison@ieee.org] >>Sent: donderdag 2 oktober 2003 20:12 >>To: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) >>Cc: Mark Ellison; mibs@ops.ietf.org >>Subject: Re: Please review and comment: >>draft-ietf-ops-vlanid-tc-mib-00.txt >> >> >>Hi Bert, >> >>I'm wondering if there could be any mib or pib definition requiring a >>range of ( 0 | 1..4094 | 4095 ) for possible values? >> >> >> >Mark, I have not seen anyone react to this as a option that they >wanted, so for now I am not going to include it. >It can of course always be added later if a need arises. > >By the way, what woyuld you call/name that TC? > >Bert > > >>Regards, >> >>Mark >> >> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ Bridge-mib mailing list Bridge-mib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bridge-mib