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Subject: Re: [ietf-calsify] Call for feedback on HTML5 spec on "predefined vocabularies"
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FYI: the predefined vocabularies are gone for now, see:

<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Oct/0082.html>

BR, Julian


Julian Reschke wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> (cross-posted to IETF apps-discuss, plus vcarddav and calsify mailing 
> lists)
> 
> the W3C HTML Working Group is currently preparing a new Working Draft 
> for HTML5. This will be based on the current Editor's Draft at 
> <http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html>).
> 
> A significant change since the last Working Draft is the introduction of 
> "microdata", a way to augment the markup with semantics, similar to and 
> competing with RDFa and microformats in general (see 
> <http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#microdata>).
> 
> As part of introducing microdata, the spec also defines several 
> "predefined vocabularies". Some of them are based on IETF formats (and 
> this is why I'm writing this particular email).
> 
> One of these vocabularies is "vcard" (see 
> <http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#vcard>). As far as I can 
> tell, the HTML spec more or less duplicates information from RFC 2426, 
> and while doing so also introduces specific compliance criteria. It does 
> *not* refer to 
> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-vcarddav-vcardrev-08>, so, as far 
> as I can tell, it would hardwire the vocabulary to a soon-to-be-outdated 
> version of the spec, and also removes the inherent extensibility model.
> 
> Another predefined vocabulary is "vevent" (see 
> <http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#vevent>), to which similar 
> observations apply.
> 
> I have talked to this to many W3C and IETF people, and as far as I can 
> tell, almost all of them consider this to be a Bad Idea. In particular, 
> it seems that the author has not even tried to co-ordinate with the two 
> applicable IETF Working Groups (I just checked the mailing list 
> archives, and couldn't find anything, but maybe I'm missing something).
> 
> I'm not sure whether the two working groups have considered this issue 
> yet. I encourage to look at the spec now 
> (<http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html>), or as soon as a new 
> Working Draft is published.
> 
> In case the Calsify and/or Vcarddav Working Groups want to comment on 
> this, I encourage the chairs to send feedback directly to the W3C HTML 
> WG, so that the feedback gets the proper attention.
> 
> Best regards, Julian
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Hi folks,
2446bis went through IESG review a short while ago. A number of small 
corrections and clarifications were done as you can see in the changes 
section in the new -10 draft that was just published. Please review the 
changes.

There was one change, (i) in the list, that we felt needed some comment 
from WG members. This changes relates to the fallback tables in section 5. 
In the previous document the DURATION property was listed as "Ignore". 
Since DURATION is a key property it was felt this should be changed to 
"Required". Any thoughts?

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This draft is a work item of the Calendaring and Scheduling Standards Simplification Working Group of the IETF.


	Title           : iCalendar Transport-Independent Interoperability Protocol (iTIP)
	Author(s)       : C. Daboo
	Filename        : draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-10.txt
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	Date            : 2009-10-04

This document specifies a protocol using the iCalendar object
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Hi,
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I am not able to cancel multiple instances from the recurrence set.
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I have attached the three ICS Files
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1. Create daily recurrence set
2. Cancel one instance from the recurrence set.
3. Cancel all the instances from the recurrence set.
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But I am not able to cancel from the recurrence set for the following
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1. Cancel more than one instance
2. Cancel this instance and all future instances (THISANDFUTURE).
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Please help me resolve this issue.
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Regards
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Hi,
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I am not able to cancel multiple instances from the recurrence set.
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I have attached the three ICS Files
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1. Create daily recurrence set
2. Cancel one instance from the recurrence set.
3. Cancel all the instances from the recurrence set.
=20
But I am not able to cancel from the recurrence set for the following
=20
1. Cancel more than one instance
2. Cancel this instance and all future instances (THISANDFUTURE).
=20
Please help me resolve this issue.
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Regards
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Am Freitag, 9. Oktober 2009 22:59:48 schrieb Alexey Melnikov:
> So far there is only one comments I disagree with:
> > 10. Sec 2.4, p.7: Are the component parameter values case-sensitive?
> 
> No. RFC 5545 says:
> 
>    All names of properties, property parameters, enumerated property
>    values and property parameter values are case-insensitive.  However,
>    all other property values are case-sensitive, unless otherwise
>    stated.

This only speaks of properties, parameters and values. However, VEVENT and 
VTODO are calendar components. I did not find any mention of calendar 
components being case-insensitive (admittedly, it is also not stated, that 
they are case-sensitive). 

I seem to remember that we had some problems with some iCalendar library (I 
think it was libical) expecting VEVENT etc. in uppercases only...

So, is the general understanding of this working group that icalendar 
component names are case-insensitive? If so, this should be clarified for 
rfc5545.

Cheers,
Reinhold
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Dear RFC Editor,

This errata is ok.

Dear Calsify WG Chairs,

The Calsify WG mailing list has been  moved to calsify@ietf.org.
Can you please update the charter as follows to make sure future errata 
will be sent to the proper mailing list?

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Thanks,
Bernard

RFC Errata System wrote:
> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5545,
> "Internet Calendaring and Scheduling Core Object Specification (iCalendar)".
>
> --------------------------------------
> You may review the report below and at:
> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5545&eid=1911
>
> --------------------------------------
> Type: Technical
> Reported by: Bernard Desruisseaux <bernard.desruisseaux@oracle.com>
>
> Section: 2.1
>
> Original Text
> -------------
> | DQUOTE                 | 22                |
>
> Corrected Text
> --------------
> | DQUOTE                 | 34                |
>
> Notes
> -----
> The codepoint for the DQUOTE character was erroneously specified in hexadecimal instead of decimal.  Issue was found by Raimund Nisius.
>
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> RFC5545 (draft-ietf-calsify-rfc2445bis-10)
> --------------------------------------
> Title               : Internet Calendaring and Scheduling Core Object Specification (iCalendar)
> Publication Date    : September 2009
> Author(s)           : B. Desruisseaux, Ed.
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Dear RFC Editor,<br>
<br>
This errata is ok.<br>
<br>
Dear Calsify WG Chairs,<br>
<br>
The Calsify WG mailing list has been&nbsp; moved to <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:calsify@ietf.org">calsify@ietf.org</a>.<br>
Can you please update the charter as follows to make sure future errata
will be sent to the proper mailing list?<br>
<pre> Mailing Lists:
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Thanks,<br>
Bernard<br>
<br>
RFC Errata System wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:200910131402.n9DE2bVW005532@boreas.isi.edu"
 type="cite">
  <pre wrap="">The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5545,
"Internet Calendaring and Scheduling Core Object Specification (iCalendar)".

--------------------------------------
You may review the report below and at:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5545&eid=1911">http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5545&amp;eid=1911</a>

--------------------------------------
Type: Technical
Reported by: Bernard Desruisseaux <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bernard.desruisseaux@oracle.com">&lt;bernard.desruisseaux@oracle.com&gt;</a>

Section: 2.1

Original Text
-------------
| DQUOTE                 | 22                |

Corrected Text
--------------
| DQUOTE                 | 34                |

Notes
-----
The codepoint for the DQUOTE character was erroneously specified in hexadecimal instead of decimal.  Issue was found by Raimund Nisius.

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RFC5545 (draft-ietf-calsify-rfc2445bis-10)
--------------------------------------
Title               : Internet Calendaring and Scheduling Core Object Specification (iCalendar)
Publication Date    : September 2009
Author(s)           : B. Desruisseaux, Ed.
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
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Dear RFC Editor,

This errata is ok.

Dear Calsify WG Chairs,

The Calsify WG mailing list has been  moved to calsify@ietf.org.
Can you please update the charter as follows to make sure future errata 
will be sent to the proper mailing list?

 Mailing Lists:
     General Discussion: calsify@ietf.org 
     To Subscribe:       https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/calsify <http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-calsify>
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Thanks,
Bernard

RFC Errata System wrote:
> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5545,
> "Internet Calendaring and Scheduling Core Object Specification (iCalendar)".
>
> --------------------------------------
> You may review the report below and at:
> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5545&eid=1911
>
> --------------------------------------
> Type: Technical
> Reported by: Bernard Desruisseaux <bernard.desruisseaux@oracle.com>
>
> Section: 2.1
>
> Original Text
> -------------
> | DQUOTE                 | 22                |
>
> Corrected Text
> --------------
> | DQUOTE                 | 34                |
>
> Notes
> -----
> The codepoint for the DQUOTE character was erroneously specified in hexadecimal instead of decimal.  Issue was found by Raimund Nisius.
>
> Instructions:
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> This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please
> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or
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>
> --------------------------------------
> RFC5545 (draft-ietf-calsify-rfc2445bis-10)
> --------------------------------------
> Title               : Internet Calendaring and Scheduling Core Object Specification (iCalendar)
> Publication Date    : September 2009
> Author(s)           : B. Desruisseaux, Ed.
> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
> Source              : Calendaring and Scheduling Standards Simplification
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Dear RFC Editor,<br>
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This errata is ok.<br>
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Dear Calsify WG Chairs,<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Bernard<br>
<br>
RFC Errata System wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:200910131402.n9DE2bVW005532@boreas.isi.edu"
 type="cite">
  <pre wrap="">The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5545,
"Internet Calendaring and Scheduling Core Object Specification (iCalendar)".

--------------------------------------
You may review the report below and at:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5545&eid=1911">http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5545&amp;eid=1911</a>

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Type: Technical
Reported by: Bernard Desruisseaux <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bernard.desruisseaux@oracle.com">&lt;bernard.desruisseaux@oracle.com&gt;</a>

Section: 2.1

Original Text
-------------
| DQUOTE                 | 22                |

Corrected Text
--------------
| DQUOTE                 | 34                |

Notes
-----
The codepoint for the DQUOTE character was erroneously specified in hexadecimal instead of decimal.  Issue was found by Raimund Nisius.

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Title               : Internet Calendaring and Scheduling Core Object Specification (iCalendar)
Publication Date    : September 2009
Author(s)           : B. Desruisseaux, Ed.
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
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Dear RFC Editor,

This errata is ok.

Dear Calsify WG Chairs,

The Calsify WG mailing list has been  moved to calsify@ietf.org.
Can you please update the charter as follows to make sure future errata 
will be sent to the proper mailing list?

 Mailing Lists:
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     To Subscribe:       https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/calsify <http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-calsify>
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Thanks,
Bernard

RFC Errata System wrote:
> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5545,
> "Internet Calendaring and Scheduling Core Object Specification (iCalendar)".
>
> --------------------------------------
> You may review the report below and at:
> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5545&eid=1911
>
> --------------------------------------
> Type: Technical
> Reported by: Bernard Desruisseaux <bernard.desruisseaux@oracle.com>
>
> Section: 2.1
>
> Original Text
> -------------
> | DQUOTE                 | 22                |
>
> Corrected Text
> --------------
> | DQUOTE                 | 34                |
>
> Notes
> -----
> The codepoint for the DQUOTE character was erroneously specified in hexadecimal instead of decimal.  Issue was found by Raimund Nisius.
>
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>
> --------------------------------------
> RFC5545 (draft-ietf-calsify-rfc2445bis-10)
> --------------------------------------
> Title               : Internet Calendaring and Scheduling Core Object Specification (iCalendar)
> Publication Date    : September 2009
> Author(s)           : B. Desruisseaux, Ed.
> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
> Source              : Calendaring and Scheduling Standards Simplification
> Area                : Applications
> Stream              : IETF
> Verifying Party     : IESG
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Dear RFC Editor,<br>
<br>
This errata is ok.<br>
<br>
Dear Calsify WG Chairs,<br>
<br>
The Calsify WG mailing list has been&nbsp; moved to <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:calsify@ietf.org">calsify@ietf.org</a>.<br>
Can you please update the charter as follows to make sure future errata
will be sent to the proper mailing list?<br>
<pre> Mailing Lists:
     General Discussion: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:calsify@ietf.org">calsify@ietf.org</a> 
     To Subscribe:       <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/calsify">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/calsify</a><a
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Thanks,<br>
Bernard<br>
<br>
RFC Errata System wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:200910131402.n9DE2bVW005532@boreas.isi.edu"
 type="cite">
  <pre wrap="">The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5545,
"Internet Calendaring and Scheduling Core Object Specification (iCalendar)".

--------------------------------------
You may review the report below and at:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5545&eid=1911">http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5545&amp;eid=1911</a>

--------------------------------------
Type: Technical
Reported by: Bernard Desruisseaux <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bernard.desruisseaux@oracle.com">&lt;bernard.desruisseaux@oracle.com&gt;</a>

Section: 2.1

Original Text
-------------
| DQUOTE                 | 22                |

Corrected Text
--------------
| DQUOTE                 | 34                |

Notes
-----
The codepoint for the DQUOTE character was erroneously specified in hexadecimal instead of decimal.  Issue was found by Raimund Nisius.

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RFC5545 (draft-ietf-calsify-rfc2445bis-10)
--------------------------------------
Title               : Internet Calendaring and Scheduling Core Object Specification (iCalendar)
Publication Date    : September 2009
Author(s)           : B. Desruisseaux, Ed.
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Calendaring and Scheduling Standards Simplification
Area                : Applications
Stream              : IETF
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Bernard Desruisseaux wrote:

> Dear RFC Editor,
>
> This errata is ok.

Bernard, I will approve it.



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This looks correct to me.

On 10/14/09 8:04 AM, RFC Errata System wrote:
> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5545,
> "Internet Calendaring and Scheduling Core Object Specification (iCalendar)".
>
> --------------------------------------
> You may review the report below and at:
> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5545&eid=1913
>
> --------------------------------------
> Type: Technical
> Reported by: Anshul Agrawal<anshul@designgrill.com>
>
> Section: 3.3.10
>
> Original Text
> -------------
> represents the last Monday of the month.  The numeric value in a
> BYDAY rule part with the FREQ rule part set to YEARLY corresponds
> to an offset within the month when the BYMONTH rule part is
> present, and corresponds to an offset within the year when the
> BYWEEKNO or BYMONTH rule parts are present.  If an integer
>
>
> Corrected Text
> --------------
> represents the last Monday of the month.  The numeric value in a
> BYDAY rule part with the FREQ rule part set to YEARLY corresponds
> to an offset within the month when the BYMONTH rule part is
> present, and corresponds to an offset within the year when the
> BYWEEKNO or BYMONTH rule parts are not present.  If an integer
>
>
> Notes
> -----
> The original statement appears contradictory in itself.
>
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>
> --------------------------------------
> RFC5545 (draft-ietf-calsify-rfc2445bis-10)
> --------------------------------------
> Title               : Internet Calendaring and Scheduling Core Object Specification (iCalendar)
> Publication Date    : September 2009
> Author(s)           : B. Desruisseaux, Ed.
> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
> Source              : Calendaring and Scheduling Standards Simplification
> Area                : Applications
> Stream              : IETF
> Verifying Party     : IESG
>
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Yes.  ADs should approve this errata.

Thanks,
Bernard

Eliot Lear wrote:
> This looks correct to me.
>
> On 10/14/09 8:04 AM, RFC Errata System wrote:
>> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5545,
>> "Internet Calendaring and Scheduling Core Object Specification 
>> (iCalendar)".
>>
>> --------------------------------------
>> You may review the report below and at:
>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5545&eid=1913
>>
>> --------------------------------------
>> Type: Technical
>> Reported by: Anshul Agrawal<anshul@designgrill.com>
>>
>> Section: 3.3.10
>>
>> Original Text
>> -------------
>> represents the last Monday of the month.  The numeric value in a
>> BYDAY rule part with the FREQ rule part set to YEARLY corresponds
>> to an offset within the month when the BYMONTH rule part is
>> present, and corresponds to an offset within the year when the
>> BYWEEKNO or BYMONTH rule parts are present.  If an integer
>>
>>
>> Corrected Text
>> --------------
>> represents the last Monday of the month.  The numeric value in a
>> BYDAY rule part with the FREQ rule part set to YEARLY corresponds
>> to an offset within the month when the BYMONTH rule part is
>> present, and corresponds to an offset within the year when the
>> BYWEEKNO or BYMONTH rule parts are not present.  If an integer
>>
>>
>> Notes
>> -----
>> The original statement appears contradictory in itself.
>>
>> Instructions:
>> -------------
>> This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please
>> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or
>> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG)
>> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.
>>
>> --------------------------------------
>> RFC5545 (draft-ietf-calsify-rfc2445bis-10)
>> --------------------------------------
>> Title               : Internet Calendaring and Scheduling Core Object 
>> Specification (iCalendar)
>> Publication Date    : September 2009
>> Author(s)           : B. Desruisseaux, Ed.
>> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
>> Source              : Calendaring and Scheduling Standards 
>> Simplification
>> Area                : Applications
>> Stream              : IETF
>> Verifying Party     : IESG
>>
>>    
>
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The IESG has approved the following document:

- 'iCalendar Transport-Independent Interoperability Protocol (iTIP) '
   <draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-10.txt> as a Proposed Standard


This document is the product of the Calendaring and Scheduling Standards Simplification Working Group. 

The IESG contact persons are Lisa Dusseault and Alexey Melnikov.

A URL of this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-10.txt

Technical Summary 

This memo updates RFC 2446, iTIP.  While no new protocol elements
are introduced, a number are deprecated, while others are clarified.
The examples are also improved.

Working Group Summary 

There is rough consensus to move the document forward, and it wasn't
all that rough.  We had one minor issue relating to a constraint table,
as to readability, but that is editorial preference.
 
Document Quality 

There are existing implementations, and a number of vendors plan to
implement the specification.  We gratefully acknowledge Nigel Swinson for
his review of the constraint table.

RFC Editor Note

adding to the beginning of Section 7.3:

   New "REQUEST-STATUS" values can be registered using the process    
   described in Section 8.2.1 of [RFC5545].

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Reinhold,

The stellar silence we hear in response to your query leads me to 
believe nobody has a firm answer.  Hence I would suggest that we follow 
the old rule of being liberal in what you accept and conservative in 
what you send.  That is, accept mixed case, and let us assume that 
nobody will be stupid enough to register a new component that is the 
same except for case; and then one should only output upper case, 
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On 10/10/09 3:10 AM, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
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> Am Freitag, 9. Oktober 2009 22:59:48 schrieb Alexey Melnikov:
>    
>> So far there is only one comments I disagree with:
>>      
>>> 10. Sec 2.4, p.7: Are the component parameter values case-sensitive?
>>>        
>> No. RFC 5545 says:
>>
>>     All names of properties, property parameters, enumerated property
>>     values and property parameter values are case-insensitive.  However,
>>     all other property values are case-sensitive, unless otherwise
>>     stated.
>>      
> This only speaks of properties, parameters and values. However, VEVENT and
> VTODO are calendar components. I did not find any mention of calendar
> components being case-insensitive (admittedly, it is also not stated, that
> they are case-sensitive).
>
> I seem to remember that we had some problems with some iCalendar library (I
> think it was libical) expecting VEVENT etc. in uppercases only...
>
> So, is the general understanding of this working group that icalendar
> component names are case-insensitive? If so, this should be clarified for
> rfc5545.
>
> Cheers,
> Reinhold
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Dear Folks,

And apologies even more for the bad URL in the message I just sent.  
That's what I get for starting calls at 5 a.m.

Let's try this again: 

I wanted to let those of you who are calendaring and scheduling 
developers know that CalConnect has implemented a discussion list for 
Calendaring and Scheduling developers and kindrid spirits.  For more 
information and to subscribe please see 
http://www.calconnect.org/caldeveloperlist.shtml.

Best Regards,

Dave Thewlis
-- 
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Dear Folks,<br>
<br>
And apologies even more for the bad URL in the message I just sent.&nbsp;
That's what I get for starting calls at 5 a.m.<br>
<br>
Let's try this again:&nbsp; <br>
<br>
I wanted to let those of you who are calendaring and scheduling
developers know that CalConnect has implemented a discussion list for
Calendaring and Scheduling developers and kindrid spirits.&nbsp; For more
information and to subscribe please see <a
 href="http://www.calconnect.org/caldeveloperlist.shtml">http://www.calconnect.org/caldeveloperlist.shtml</a>.<br>
<br>
Best Regards,<br>
<br>
Dave Thewlis<br>
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Dear Folks,

And apologies even more for the bad URL in the message I just sent.  
That's what I get for starting calls at 5 a.m.

Let's try this again: 

I wanted to let those of you who are calendaring and scheduling 
developers know that CalConnect has implemented a discussion list for 
Calendaring and Scheduling developers and kindrid spirits.  For more 
information and to subscribe please see 
http://www.calconnect.org/caldeveloperlist.shtml.

Best Regards,

Dave Thewlis
-- 
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+1 707 840 9391 (voice) · +1 707 498 2238 (mobile)
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Dear Folks,<br>
<br>
And apologies even more for the bad URL in the message I just sent.&nbsp;
That's what I get for starting calls at 5 a.m.<br>
<br>
Let's try this again:&nbsp; <br>
<br>
I wanted to let those of you who are calendaring and scheduling
developers know that CalConnect has implemented a discussion list for
Calendaring and Scheduling developers and kindrid spirits.&nbsp; For more
information and to subscribe please see <a
 href="http://www.calconnect.org/caldeveloperlist.shtml">http://www.calconnect.org/caldeveloperlist.shtml</a>.<br>
<br>
Best Regards,<br>
<br>
Dave Thewlis<br>
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<a href="http://www.calconnect.org">http://www.calconnect.org</a> &middot; <a
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And apologies even more for the bad URL in the message I just sent.  
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I wanted to let those of you who are calendaring and scheduling 
developers know that CalConnect has implemented a discussion list for 
Calendaring and Scheduling developers and kindrid spirits.  For more 
information and to subscribe please see 
http://www.calconnect.org/caldeveloperlist.shtml.

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Dave Thewlis
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Dear Folks,<br>
<br>
And apologies even more for the bad URL in the message I just sent.&nbsp;
That's what I get for starting calls at 5 a.m.<br>
<br>
Let's try this again:&nbsp; <br>
<br>
I wanted to let those of you who are calendaring and scheduling
developers know that CalConnect has implemented a discussion list for
Calendaring and Scheduling developers and kindrid spirits.&nbsp; For more
information and to subscribe please see <a
 href="http://www.calconnect.org/caldeveloperlist.shtml">http://www.calconnect.org/caldeveloperlist.shtml</a>.<br>
<br>
Best Regards,<br>
<br>
Dave Thewlis<br>
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<Chair hat off>

Thanks, Alexey, for putting out this draft.  I have some questions and 
comments about the latest draft.  Most of these are nits.

In Section 2.4 you write:

> Note 1: A MIME message containing multiple iCalendar objects with
>     different method values must be further encapsulated with a
>     "multipart/mixed" MIME entity.

Do you mean MUST instead of must?

In Section 3, Security Considerations, as others have pointed out, time 
has passed, and it probably is not reasonably to only mention RFC 1847.  
However, I think we should probably go further and recommend the use of 
our own standards such as DKIM.  Having some understanding of trust 
boundaries seems to me important at this stage.  While 1847 would 
provide strong trust, it's nowhere near as used as, say, DKIM or SPF.  
I'm not saying do away, with 1847 text, but I think we have some text to 
add.


On encoding, I wonder if this is best left to the basic MIME / SMTP 
encoding practices.  Do we really need to discuss 7 or 8 bit here?  Is 
this a serious problem that someone has had?

Nit: your draft has the word FORMFEED where formfeeds should be.

Nit: Section 2.3 is entitled [RFC-5322] Addresses.  I would prefer to 
see a common name such as "Email addresses".  Let's face it.  We 
probably haven't seen the last of updates to this standard, for better 
or worse, and unless you think you are normatively referencing a 
definition of "email addresses" that is likely to change, I don't see 
the point of obscuring what we're talking about.

Nit: Section 1.2.  Is it me or is this section excessive?  I agree with 
the 2119 langauge, but do we need to go to the lengths of the following:

>     Properties defined by [iCAL] are referred to with capitalized,
>     quoted-strings of text, followed by the word "property". For example,
>     "ATTENDEE" property refers to the iCalendar property used to convey
>     the calendar address of a calendar user.
>    

Ok, I haven't checked your examples.  That will be next.

Eliot

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&lt;Chair hat off&gt;<br>
<br>
Thanks, Alexey, for putting out this draft.Â  I have some questions and
comments about the latest draft.Â  Most of these are nits.<br>
<br>
In Section 2.4 you write:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
  <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
  <pre>Note 1: A MIME message containing multiple iCalendar objects with
   different method values must be further encapsulated with a
   "multipart/mixed" MIME entity. </pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
Do you mean MUST instead of must?<br>
<br>
In Section 3, Security Considerations, as others have pointed out, time
has passed, and it probably is not reasonably to only mention RFC
1847.Â  However, I think we should probably go further and recommend the
use of our own standards such as DKIM.Â  Having some understanding of
trust boundaries seems to me important at this stage.Â  While 1847 would
provide strong trust, it's nowhere near as used as, say, DKIM or SPF.Â 
I'm not saying do away, with 1847 text, but I think we have some text
to add.<br>
<br>
<br>
On encoding, I wonder if this is best left to the basic MIME / SMTP
encoding practices.Â  Do we really need to discuss 7 or 8 bit here?Â  Is
this a serious problem that someone has had?<br>
<br>
Nit: your draft has the word FORMFEED where formfeeds should be.<br>
<br>
Nit: Section 2.3 is entitled [RFC-5322] Addresses.Â  I would prefer to
see a common name such as "Email addresses".Â  Let's face it.Â  We
probably haven't seen the last of updates to this standard, for better
or worse, and unless you think you are normatively referencing a
definition of "email addresses" that is likely to change, I don't see
the point of obscuring what we're talking about.<br>
<br>
Nit: Section 1.2.Â  Is it me or is this section excessive?Â  I agree with
the 2119 langauge, but do we need to go to the lengths of the following:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
  <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
  <pre>   Properties defined by [iCAL] are referred to with capitalized,
   quoted-strings of text, followed by the word "property". For example,
   "ATTENDEE" property refers to the iCalendar property used to convey
   the calendar address of a calendar user.
  </pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
Ok, I haven't checked your examples.Â  That will be next.<br>
<br>
Eliot<br>
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Eliot Lear wrote:
> <Chair hat off>
>
> Thanks, Alexey, for putting out this draft.  I have some questions and 
> comments about the latest draft.  Most of these are nits.
>
> In Section 2.4 you write:
>> Note 1: A MIME message containing multiple iCalendar objects with
>>    different method values must be further encapsulated with a
>>    "multipart/mixed" MIME entity. 
> Do you mean MUST instead of must?
Yes, changed.
> In Section 3, Security Considerations, as others have pointed out, 
> time has passed, and it probably is not reasonably to only mention RFC 
> 1847.  However, I think we should probably go further and recommend 
> the use of our own standards such as DKIM.  Having some understanding 
> of trust boundaries seems to me important at this stage.  While 1847 
> would provide strong trust, it's nowhere near as used as, say, DKIM or 
> SPF.  I'm not saying do away, with 1847 text, but I think we have some 
> text to add.
Agreed. Send me the text ;-)
> On encoding, I wonder if this is best left to the basic MIME / SMTP 
> encoding practices.  Do we really need to discuss 7 or 8 bit here?  Is 
> this a serious problem that someone has had?
This is just trying to point out that iTIP messages contain UTF-8 and 
thus need to be encoded when 8BITMIME/BINARYMIME are absent.

On one hand there are still email clients that do just-send-8bit, which 
worries me a bit. On the other hand most of SMTP servers are 8bit-clean.
So I would rather keep the warning about 7bit transport in the document.
> Nit: your draft has the word FORMFEED where formfeeds should be.
Yes, I didn't do post-processing of nroff output.
> Nit: Section 2.3 is entitled [RFC-5322] Addresses.  I would prefer to 
> see a common name such as "Email addresses".
Agreed.
> Let's face it.  We probably haven't seen the last of updates to this 
> standard, for better or worse, and unless you think you are 
> normatively referencing a definition of "email addresses" that is 
> likely to change, I don't see the point of obscuring what we're 
> talking about.
Actually in some places the document really should be referencing 
mailto: URIs. I've added that as another normative reference.
> Nit: Section 1.2.  Is it me or is this section excessive?  I agree 
> with the 2119 langauge, but do we need to go to the lengths of the 
> following:
>>    Properties defined by [iCAL] are referred to with capitalized,
>>    quoted-strings of text, followed by the word "property". For example,
>>    "ATTENDEE" property refers to the iCalendar property used to convey
>>    the calendar address of a calendar user.
>>     
This text is pretty much the same as in iCalendar/iTIP documents. I 
don't have a strong opinion of whether it should stay or go. Other opinions?
> Ok, I haven't checked your examples.  That will be next.
That would be helpful. Are you planning to use any particular iMIP 
client, or are you just thinking about visual inspection?


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On 10/29/09 5:43 AM, Deepak Bhatia wrote:
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>
> I want to update single occurrence by changing the time in a daily 
> recurrence.
>

Please see RFC-5545, Section 3.8.5, and specifically Section 3.8.5.1 
(EXDATE).

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update single occurrence by changing the
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Please see RFC-5545, Section 3.8.5, and specifically Section 3.8.5.1
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No they are not.Â  You have transmitted your message to a public list
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Eliot<br>
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