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Forwarding FYI, for the benefit of any Kerberos-interested CAT subscribers
who may not also receive the general IETF-Announce list.  Kerberos-related
work items currently listed under CAT are being transferred to this new WG,
which is slated to meet at the upcoming Pittsburgh IETF.

--jl

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Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 12:50 PM
Subject: WG Action: Kerberos WG (krb-wg)


A new working group has been formed in the Security Area of the IETF.
For additional information, contact the Area Directors
or the WG Chair.Kerberos WG (krb-wg)


Kerberos WG (krb-wg)
--------------------
 
 Current Status: Active Working Group
 
 Chair(s):
     Douglas Engert <deengert@anl.gov>
 
 Security Area Director(s): 
     Jeffrey Schiller  <jis@mit.edu>
     Marcus Leech  <mleech@nortelnetworks.com>
 
 Security Area Advisor: 
     Jeffrey Schiller  <jis@mit.edu>
 
 Mailing Lists: 
     General Discussion:ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov
     To Subscribe:      majordomo@anl.gov
         In Body:       subscribe ietf-krb-wg your_email_address
     Archive:           ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/krb/
 
Description of Working Group:
 
Kerberos over the years has been ported to virtually every operating
system. There are at least two open source versions, with numerous
commercial versions based on these and other proprietary
implementations. Kerberos evolution has continued over the years, and
interoperability has been problematic.  A number of draft proposals
have been issued concerning aspects of new or extended functionality.

The group will strive to improve the interoperability of these
systems while improving security.

Specifically, the Working Group will:

* Clarify and amplify the Kerberos specification (RFC 1510) to make sure
  interoperability problems encountered in the past that occurred
  because of unclear specifications do not happen again.  The output of
  this process should be suitable for Draft Standard status.

* Select from existing proposals on new or extended functionality those
  that will add significant value while improving interoperability and
  security, and publish these as one or more Proposed Standards.
 
 Goals and Milestones: 
 
   Jul 00       First meeting


   Aug 00       Submit the Kerberos Extensions document to the IESG for 
                consideration as a Proposed standard.


   Sep 00       Submit the PKINIT document to the IESG for consideration as
a 
                Proposed Standard.


   Dec 00       Charter Review, update of milestones and refinement of
goals.  
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Welcome to the Kerberos Working Group list. (Or if you are on the CAT
list you may which to join.)

The charter for the Kerberos Working Group has been posted at
http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/krb-wg-charter.html but it does not yet 
list any of the documents. In discussions with John Linn, and Jeff Schiller 
the following documents are being transferred to this working group: 

*     Public Key Cryptography for Initial Authentication in Kerberos (PKINIT) (48913 bytes)
*     Public Key Cryptography for Cross-Realm Authentication in Kerberos (22582 bytes)
*     Public Key Utilizing Tickets for Application Servers (PKTAPP) (16077 bytes)
*     The Kerberos Network Authentication Service (V5) (Kerberos Revisions) (323152 bytes)
*     Initial Authentication and Pass Through Authentication Using Kerberos V5 and the GSS-API
(IAKERB) (12132 bytes)
*     The Kerberos Version 5 GSSAPI Mechanism, Version 2 (55391 bytes)
*     Distributing Kerberos KDC and Realm Information with DNS (11698 bytes)
*     Kerberos Set/Change Password: Version 2 (15974 bytes)

and the following RFCs:

*     The Kerberos Network Authentication Service (V5) (RFC 1510) (275395 bytes)
*     The Kerberos Version 5 GSS-API Mechanism (RFC 1964) (47413 bytes)

We will be meeting in Pittsburgh and the session is currently scheduled 
for Wednesday 1530 - 1730 as "SEC krbwg Kerberos BOF"

The main thrust of the meeting will be to get the Kerberos Revisions and PKINIT 
to be submitted as Proposed Standards within the next few months. 

I have asked all the authors of the above documents if they would
like to say a few words, and most have agreed. If you have any agenda items 
please contact me. I hope to have an agenda soon. 

So, please come prepared to discuss any issues you might have with the 
Kerberos Revisions and PKINIT. 


-- 

 Douglas E. Engert  <DEEngert@anl.gov>
 Argonne National Laboratory
 9700 South Cass Avenue
 Argonne, Illinois  60439 
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Hello,

This is the previous version of the draft. The new one draft-ietf-cat-gaa-cbind-04.txt I
have submitted  a week ago. Please update the draft.

Thanks,
Tatyana Ryutov

Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote: 

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Hi,

I am trying to learn the GSS-API. Does anyone know of a test system I can
set up in order to test GSS-API plug-ins?

Thanks in advance,
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	Title		: Triple-DES Support for the Kerberos 5 GSSAPI Mechanism
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The MIT Kerberos 5 release version 1.2 includes support for
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Tsachi Sharfman wrote:
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> I am trying to learn the GSS-API. Does anyone know of a test system I can
> set up in order to test GSS-API plug-ins?

What exactly are you looking for?

I have written a test program for GSS-API mechanisms called GSSTEST
that we give away for free in source.

There are a few free gssapi mechanism implementations available
in source, like MIT's Kerberos.  At one point in time there was
a SESAME demoware mechanism in source.

We do have a GSS-API v2 mechanism wrapper for the Kerberos SSP of
Microsoft W2K and one for the NTLM SSP of Microsoft Windows NT/9x/W2K
that we give away in source -- however it is only a wrapper, not a full
mechanism and parts of it are obviously platform specific...


Once our FTP Server here at SAP is finally up and running (it took them
only 5 years), I will put my sources there.  At the moment I still
have to distribute it via Email.

-Martin
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The portion of the abstract in the announcement left out the final,
key paragraph:

   [...]approach.  Efforts to produce such a specification are under way.

   In the interest of providing increased security in the interim,
   however, MIT is proposing adding support for triple-DES to the
   existing mechanism, as described here.

This brief document is *not* an attempt to provide a completely new
Kerberos mechanism for GSSAPI.
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