From sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.com Mon Oct 1 01:08:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634AF21F8605 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 01:08:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.748 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.748 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.501, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yH+OirkNz8lL for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 01:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail6.alcatel.fr (smail6.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.42]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E82221F8608 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 01:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.63]) by smail6.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q9188e73004986 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:08:42 +0200 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSB1.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.41]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.63]) with mapi; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:08:13 +0200 From: "BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)" To: Lou Berger , "GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO)" , "daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com" , "diego.caviglia@ericsson.com" , "zhangfatai@huawei.com" , "danli@huawei.com" Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:08:11 +0200 Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model Thread-Index: Ac2dhG562cLTHg0EQkOn9N1yFWJ0rgCJ2wlg Message-ID: References: <5065B22D.5050808@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <5065B22D.5050808@labn.net> Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: it-IT X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: it-IT, en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.84 Cc: CCAMP Subject: [CCAMP] R: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:08:49 -0000 No IPR BR Sergio Belotti Sergio - System Architect ALCATEL-LUCENT Optics Division -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Inviato: venerd=EC 28 settembre 2012 16.20 A: BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO); GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO); dan= iele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; diego.caviglia@ericsson.com; zhangfatai@huawe= i.com; danli@huawei.com Cc: CCAMP Oggetto: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. From sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.com Mon Oct 1 01:09:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6469A21F8608 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 01:09:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.250, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id px17KcNLCdOn for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 01:09:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail2.alcatel.fr (smail2.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.57]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE9B21F8605 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 01:09:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.61]) by smail2.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q9185mf2011182 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:09:25 +0200 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSB1.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.41]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.61]) with mapi; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:08:48 +0200 From: "BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)" To: Lou Berger Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:08:47 +0200 Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework Thread-Index: Ac2dhHMTyCIU5TnmSc+WjBoarpdUDgCJ3jzg Message-ID: References: <5065B228.1070701@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <5065B228.1070701@labn.net> Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: it-IT X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: it-IT, en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.80 Cc: CCAMP , "malcolm.betts@huawei.com" , "lihan@chinamobile.com" Subject: [CCAMP] R: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:09:41 -0000 No IPR BR Sergio Belotti Sergio - System Architect ALCATEL-LUCENT Optics Division -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Inviato: venerd=EC 28 settembre 2012 16.20 A: zhangfatai@huawei.com; huawei.danli@huawei.com; lihan@chinamobile.com; B= ELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO); daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; hanjianrui@huawei= .com; malcolm.betts@huawei.com Cc: CCAMP Oggetto: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. From sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.com Mon Oct 1 01:13:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E792121F84C5 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 01:13:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.082 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.082 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.167, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RRT24j6norM9 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 01:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail5.alcatel.fr (smail5.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.27]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A536021F8605 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 01:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.63]) by smail5.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q918C9Jd024813 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:13:03 +0200 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSB1.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.41]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.63]) with mapi; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:12:48 +0200 From: "BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)" To: Lou Berger , "zhangfatai@huawei.com" , "zhangguoying@mail.ritt.com.cn" , "daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com" , "kpithewan@infinera.com" , "yi.lin@huawei.com" , "xuyunbin@mail.ritt.com.cn" , "GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO)" , "diego.caviglia@ericsson.com" , "rrao@infinera.com" , "jdrake@juniper.net" , "IBryskin@advaoptical.com" Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:12:47 +0200 Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 Thread-Index: Ac2dhHccnsnJG16tQx6os2VQllPp6QCKAOAQ Message-ID: References: <5065B236.9080009@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <5065B236.9080009@labn.net> Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: it-IT X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: it-IT, en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.13 Cc: CCAMP Subject: [CCAMP] R: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:13:17 -0000 No IPR BR Sergio Belotti Sergio - System Architect ALCATEL-LUCENT Optics Division -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Inviato: venerd=EC 28 settembre 2012 16.21 A: zhangfatai@huawei.com; zhangguoying@mail.ritt.com.cn; BELOTTI, SERGIO (S= ERGIO); daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; kpithewan@infinera.com; yi.lin@hua= wei.com; xuyunbin@mail.ritt.com.cn; GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORI= O); diego.caviglia@ericsson.com; rrao@infinera.com; jdrake@juniper.net; IBr= yskin@advaoptical.com Cc: CCAMP Oggetto: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&document_= search=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. From sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.com Mon Oct 1 01:13:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C9021F860D for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 01:13:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.124 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.124 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.875, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id St+yvd4H+6hg for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 01:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail2.alcatel.fr (smail2.alcatel.fr [62.23.212.57]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523B521F84E6 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 01:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.63]) by smail2.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q918BFfE014890 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:13:16 +0200 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSB1.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.41]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.63]) with mapi; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:13:09 +0200 From: "BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)" To: Lou Berger , "daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com" , "diego.caviglia@ericsson.com" , "zhangfatai@huawei.com" , "danli@huawei.com" , "GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO)" , "rrao@infinera.com" , "kpithewan@infinera.com" , "jdrake@juniper.net" Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:13:08 +0200 Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 Thread-Index: Ac2dhHzk0p7qQDOGRriD/7IKgR3g9wCKBIqw Message-ID: References: <5065B232.1020908@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <5065B232.1020908@labn.net> Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: it-IT X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: it-IT, en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.80 Cc: CCAMP Subject: [CCAMP] R: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:13:27 -0000 No IPR BR Sergio Belotti Sergio - System Architect ALCATEL-LUCENT Optics Division -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Inviato: venerd=EC 28 settembre 2012 16.21 A: daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; diego.caviglia@ericsson.com; zhangfatai= @huawei.com; danli@huawei.com; BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO); GRANDI, PIETRO VIT= TORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO); rrao@infinera.com; kpithewan@infinera.com; jdrake@= juniper.net Cc: CCAMP Oggetto: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&document_= search=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. From db3546@att.com Mon Oct 1 14:12:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8CB11E8168 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:12:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UZgmVKzTfXC0 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbfkord-smmo05.seg.att.com (nbfkord-smmo05.seg.att.com [209.65.160.92]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF1F11E80D5 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown [144.160.20.145] (EHLO mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) by nbfkord-smmo05.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-6.11.0-12) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 0370a605.0.476189.00-398.1304486.nbfkord-smmo05.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:12:17 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 506a0731574d7535-3601d0e22b8076cd9bbae27dcef1079dacad1ad5 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q91LCG3F026164 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:12:16 -0400 Received: from sflint02.pst.cso.att.com (sflint02.pst.cso.att.com [144.154.234.229]) by mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q91LCAAM026129 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:12:14 -0400 Received: from MISOUT7MSGHUB9A.ITServices.sbc.com (misout7msghub9a.itservices.sbc.com [144.151.223.62]) by sflint02.pst.cso.att.com (RSA Interceptor) for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:11:57 -0400 Received: from MISOUT7MSGUSR9O.ITServices.sbc.com ([144.151.223.75]) by MISOUT7MSGHUB9A.ITServices.sbc.com ([144.151.223.62]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:11:56 -0400 From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" To: "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG document Thread-Index: Ac2gGVWYHc3eSu9jR8ykDE5sjWSBrw== Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:11:56 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.70.15.90] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Spam: [F=0.2000000000; CM=0.500; S=0.200(2010122901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [144.160.20.145] X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.0 cv=GOG/5JxK c=1 sm=0 a=ZRNLZ4dFUbCvG8UMqPvVAA==:17 a] X-AnalysisOut: [=OQFgbPg-Z5sA:10 a=0LBcmOIbTs4A:10 a=ofMgfj31e3cA:10 a=BLc] X-AnalysisOut: [eEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zQP7CpKOAAAA:8 a=XIqpo32R] X-AnalysisOut: [AAAA:8 a=rPIIYydAcWIA:10 a=6395D88C4xZvPChkB50A:9 a=CjuIK1] X-AnalysisOut: [q_8ugA:10] Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:12:17 -0000 All, This is to start a two week poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update= a ccamp working group document. Please send mail to the list indicating "y= es/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your tec= hnical reservations with the document. The poll ends Monday Oct 15. Thanks, Deborah (and Lou) From db3546@att.com Mon Oct 1 14:17:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479E91F0D3F for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:17:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DhggDeWTy27v for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbfkord-smmo05.seg.att.com (nbfkord-smmo05.seg.att.com [209.65.160.92]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2125C1F040A for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown [144.160.128.153] (EHLO flpi408.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com) by nbfkord-smmo05.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-6.11.0-12) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id c780a605.0.478620.00-246.1311151.nbfkord-smmo05.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:17:57 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 506a088546888c21-8a09a4c54559a924913cd60db173b00deebee047 Received: from enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by flpi408.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q91LHjmL015479; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:17:47 -0700 Received: from fflint03.pst.cso.att.com (fflint03.pst.cso.att.com [150.234.39.63]) by flpi408.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q91LHSxA014949 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:17:41 -0700 Received: from MISOUT7MSGHUB9A.ITServices.sbc.com (misout7msghub9a.itservices.sbc.com [144.151.223.62]) by fflint03.pst.cso.att.com (RSA Interceptor); Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:17:09 -0700 Received: from MISOUT7MSGUSR9O.ITServices.sbc.com ([144.151.223.75]) by MISOUT7MSGHUB9A.ITServices.sbc.com ([144.151.223.62]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:17:09 -0400 From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" To: "draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update Thread-Index: Ac2gGhh3i3XVzozrRdq/IFP3QxscbQ== Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:17:08 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.70.15.90] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Spam: [F=0.2000000000; CM=0.500; S=0.200(2010122901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [144.160.128.153] X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.0 cv=GOG/5JxK c=1 sm=0 a=xwOvzTHDVLE4u4nGvK72ag==:17 a] X-AnalysisOut: [=OQFgbPg-Z5sA:10 a=bKXRGdWoNaIA:10 a=ofMgfj31e3cA:10 a=BLc] X-AnalysisOut: [eEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zQP7CpKOAAAA:8 a=XIqpo32R] X-AnalysisOut: [AAAA:8 a=qokfCwmoAWsA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=ccc8i8lWbWQxar] X-AnalysisOut: [eQMRoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10] Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" Subject: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:17:58 -0000 Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the poll on making this document a WG document: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the abo= ve by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware o= f any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until= a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOT= E: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co= ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules encou= rages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF c= ontribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discus= sion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the= RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs From jdrake@juniper.net Mon Oct 1 14:43:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139F921F86A3 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:43:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.234, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, UNRESOLVED_TEMPLATE=3.132] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BFHH1Z3x+8pF for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og123.obsmtp.com (exprod7og123.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E0321F86A2 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob123.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUGoOh17lQBTNBF/ftsGwnNveZVJ/+PFR@postini.com; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:43:36 PDT Received: from P-CLDFE02-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.60) by P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.37) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:42:46 -0700 Received: from o365mail.juniper.net (207.17.137.149) by o365mail.juniper.net (172.24.192.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.355.2; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:42:46 -0700 Received: from am1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (213.199.154.206) by o365mail.juniper.net (207.17.137.149) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:44:14 -0700 Received: from mail35-am1-R.bigfish.com (10.3.201.228) by AM1EHSOBE002.bigfish.com (10.3.204.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:42:12 +0000 Received: from mail35-am1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail35-am1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 269C1E0164 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:42:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.240.101; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); (null); H:BL2PRD0510HT002.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; R:internal; EFV:INT X-SpamScore: -22 X-BigFish: PS-22(z1725nz9371I542M1432I4015Izz1202h1d1ah1d2ahzz1033IL8275dhz2dh2a8h668h839h944hd25hf0ah107ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1155h) Received: from mail35-am1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail35-am1 (MessageSwitch) id 1349127729814584_23501; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from AM1EHSMHS017.bigfish.com (unknown [10.3.201.227]) by mail35-am1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A191E0051; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BL2PRD0510HT002.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (157.56.240.101) by AM1EHSMHS017.bigfish.com (10.3.207.155) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:42:07 +0000 Received: from BL2PRD0510MB349.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.12.53]) by BL2PRD0510HT002.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.100.37]) with mapi id 14.16.0207.009; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:42:06 +0000 From: John E Drake To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG document Thread-Index: Ac2gGVWYHc3eSu9jR8ykDE5sjWSBrwABEDaQ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:42:06 +0000 Message-ID: <0182DEA5604B3A44A2EE61F3EE3ED69E0311E0@BL2PRD0510MB349.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [66.129.224.50] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%ATT.COM$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%IETF.ORG$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:43:37 -0000 Yes Yours irrespectively, John > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 2:12 PM > To: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG > document >=20 > All, >=20 > This is to start a two week poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps- > update a ccamp working group document. Please send mail to the list > indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, > please state your technical reservations with the document. >=20 > The poll ends Monday Oct 15. >=20 > Thanks, > Deborah (and Lou) >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From lberger@labn.net Mon Oct 1 17:33:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7C11F0D3F for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:33:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.012 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.012 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.149, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z2-Gr38Hj73g for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a6]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4762D1F0D1D for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30893 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2012 00:33:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2012 00:33:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=qjGHrpok+wWxQdrSX5eMZTk0JLvuao1t4PHbsZ3juA4=; b=uct/siARso32O6q3fjJxN2GnwuXvNeofOi8W6NOwJuPRe6zWBRWp0uHIwz7c9OqqXilb8z8wkY4eq/7wXoa9cB12NoXuVtL9Q7VZXoujAtCxMIELNGwUD+cJyrEhyhy0; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:57250 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TIqQV-0003VD-Dr; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 18:33:31 -0600 Message-ID: <506A365B.8080302@labn.net> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 20:33:31 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" , "draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 00:33:49 -0000 I'm not aware of any IPR that applies. Lou (co-author) On 10/1/2012 5:17 PM, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote: > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) > > As part of the poll on making this document a WG document: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer > the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not > you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to > the next stage until a response has been received from each author > and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN > THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. > > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author > or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR > rules encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in > any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For > more information, please see the RFCs listed above and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs > > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > From rrao@infinera.com Mon Oct 1 17:57:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D2C1F0D3F for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:57:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rtYEN6a9v2lF for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sv-casht-prod2.infinera.com (sv-casht-prod2.infinera.com [8.4.225.25]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599401F0D1D for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SV-EXDB-PROD1.infinera.com ([fe80::dc68:4e20:6002:a8f9]) by sv-casht-prod2.infinera.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:57:42 -0700 From: Rajan Rao To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG document Thread-Index: Ac2gGVWYHc3eSu9jR8ykDE5sjWSBrwAH4hjQ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 00:57:41 +0000 Message-ID: <650AA355E323C34D9D4AAEED952E053D3FA99DE8@SV-EXDB-PROD1.infinera.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.100.96.93] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 00:57:44 -0000 Yes/Support Thanks Rajan -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of B= RUNGARD, DEBORAH A Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 2:12 PM To: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG docum= ent All, This is to start a two week poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update= a ccamp working group document. Please send mail to the list indicating "y= es/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your tec= hnical reservations with the document. The poll ends Monday Oct 15. Thanks, Deborah (and Lou) _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com Mon Oct 1 23:53:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9251321F8ACF for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 23:53:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.965 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.965 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.284, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yZmgYmdS6x2y for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 23:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw1.ericsson.se (mailgw1.ericsson.se [193.180.251.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6634021F8ACE for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 23:53:56 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb2d-b7fea6d000002ccb-d2-506a8f822186 Received: from esessmw0184.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw1.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id B4.18.11467.28F8A605; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:53:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSHC018.ericsson.se (153.88.183.72) by esessmw0184.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.81) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.279.1; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:53:54 +0200 Received: from ESESSMB301.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.169]) by ESESSHC018.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.72]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:53:53 +0200 From: Daniele Ceccarelli To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG document Thread-Index: Ac2gGVWYHc3eSu9jR8ykDE5sjWSBrwAUVRrw Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 06:53:53 +0000 Message-ID: <4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE48DC40@ESESSMB301.ericsson.se> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.17] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrALMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+JvrW5Tf1aAwfH31hZP5txgsbjc1c3u wOTxsn8Oo8eSJT+ZApiiuGxSUnMyy1KL9O0SuDJe7XjOWrCJreLMlK2MDYybWLsYOTgkBEwk tp5R62LkBDLFJC7cW88GYgsJnGKU2DZHqIuRC8jewSjR+WUmE4SzmFHi/ZfnTCDNbAJWEk8O +YCYIgK+ElOnM4H0CguESHQeP88IEQ6VOPgqGCQsImAk8eHSFXYQm0VARWL1ycdg5bwCnhKT T65nh1gbLnHr0WywEzgFIiR2TDoDFmcUkJWYsHsRI4jNLCAucevJfCaIkwUkluw5zwxhi0q8 fPwP6itFieX9chDlehI3pk5hg7C1JZYtfM0MsVZQ4uTMJywQa3Ukjv1pYJ7AKD4LyYZZSNpn IWmfhaR9ASPLKkbh3MTMnPRyQ73Uoszk4uL8PL3i1E2MwFg6uOW37g7GU+dEDjFKc7AoifNy Je33FxJITyxJzU5NLUgtii8qzUktPsTIxMEp1cAouXrVJBebyOVeevIKpzY0JNQuWcV8Lbj1 KItlT83LFq+a3U+Xb3ReNFnjna6kzMkbZ5jYny241vzESu2mCPPMhFPM+4unrk+a9IXvqXhz WveqrLkPwkPe7Q5k6q7zSG6tk5LleV5Q/Wsz+6xZsquu73RdpBXTJ20ld3v5q4Wl19gN1c0u yPxTYinOSDTUYi4qTgQAzdp6yHMCAAA= Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 06:53:57 -0000 Yes/support BR Daniele=20 >-----Original Message----- >From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org]=20 >On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A >Sent: luned=EC 1 ottobre 2012 23.12 >To: ccamp@ietf.org >Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making=20 >draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG document > >All, > >This is to start a two week poll on making=20 >draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a ccamp working group=20 >document. Please send mail to the list indicating=20 >"yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please=20 >state your technical reservations with the document. > >The poll ends Monday Oct 15. > >Thanks, >Deborah (and Lou) > > >_______________________________________________ >CCAMP mailing list >CCAMP@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >= From kpithewan@infinera.com Tue Oct 2 03:53:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C4221F8A89 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 03:53:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g883JzIanl1e for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 03:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sv-casht-prod2.infinera.com (sv-casht-prod2.infinera.com [8.4.225.25]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321C121F8A85 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 03:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SV-EXDB-PROD1.infinera.com ([fe80::dc68:4e20:6002:a8f9]) by sv-casht-prod2.infinera.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 03:53:14 -0700 From: Khuzema Pithewan To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG document Thread-Index: Ac2gGVWYHc3eSu9jR8ykDE5sjWSBrwAcsKug Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 10:53:14 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.100.156.128] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 10:53:15 -0000 Yes/Support. Khuzema -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of B= RUNGARD, DEBORAH A Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 2:42 AM To: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG docum= ent All, This is to start a two week poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update= a ccamp working group document. Please send mail to the list indicating "y= es/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your tec= hnical reservations with the document. The poll ends Monday Oct 15. Thanks, Deborah (and Lou) _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From meral.shirazipour@ericsson.com Tue Oct 2 07:00:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F86D21F84B9 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:00:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.849 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.849 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.250, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vg7Ot37Gr2Lq for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B25721F84B2 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.31]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id q92E7VBB019670; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:07:33 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0703.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.2.164]) by eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.31]) with mapi; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 10:00:21 -0400 From: Meral Shirazipour To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 10:00:20 -0400 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG document Thread-Index: Ac2gGVWYHc3eSu9jR8ykDE5sjWSBrwAjNi4A Message-ID: <25DC600D0CC1F2479C7053ADEB93004E6DF62A05F2@EUSAACMS0703.eamcs.ericsson.se> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:00:24 -0000 Hi, yes/support! BR, Meral > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A > Sent: October-01-12 17:12 > To: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG > document >=20 > All, >=20 > This is to start a two week poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-upda= te a > ccamp working group document. Please send mail to the list indicating > "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your > technical reservations with the document. >=20 > The poll ends Monday Oct 15. >=20 > Thanks, > Deborah (and Lou) >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From agmalis@gmail.com Tue Oct 2 07:12:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF8F21F850D for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:12:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.524 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bZNVClodLbSv for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com (mail-ie0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9595B21F849A for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iec9 with SMTP id 9so17003533iec.31 for ; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 07:12:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=78Ck88m3ePaC19moQj33xIRIIaQO0yJpE4KH5hz9M6k=; b=RX+JoHYN4M4omp1f8wpeGsTlN/XON9zMbW3Izd60nRAvJTZFJo6ac8WhzFf09b4cYx bR7kP7ai5soG0xDW0UDy0jFugDRRXdTVsHbQQqzfn4I4aGWXSijygGUatvl00KMvQE7q XequQpAHC4IzxUXgDfXXEYpQN1Ux8QdG8Y8/SZl/8SGYYzwIvxMKD/WmdqlB0sEx2v2F t7mSp7R0k4ZD8LQGs2YQOqPpKR9wGG3qWnBq6JhYYT2gIoKU81KZedgepfAHnKR+4h8a Lf9HF9kzffZ1A/R5SQDbjGODN8kEcMhBCjmnB19ib0v6OJ8Gu4CHvFhYH3eEXRGquAgs P1xA== Received: by 10.50.76.233 with SMTP id n9mr8763235igw.58.1349187154042; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 07:12:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.98.73 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:12:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 10:12:13 -0400 Message-ID: To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:12:38 -0000 Yes/support Cheers, Andy On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 5:11 PM, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote: > All, > > This is to start a two week poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-upda= te a ccamp working group document. Please send mail to the list indicating = "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your t= echnical reservations with the document. > > The poll ends Monday Oct 15. > > Thanks, > Deborah (and Lou) > > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From lberger@labn.net Tue Oct 2 07:31:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B54F21F84C5 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:31:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.016 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.016 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.145, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1S0s1ATI6qUa for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a6]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B5A7121F847D for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5481 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2012 14:30:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2012 14:30:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=x5qyay0G0g3nFdfANgzAYvB1/4WxajJnYjwcoO9T+hI=; b=r6wDUmaGFTGESFRNt+rmr13mCb05ZPISNWsW9ntMHJr6jtVRMWKCdGACFlQbe5cZKj6n0xud7VAZZXMs5DZOGEA99Rz3s3hC3az/D0hLk5yh/GyvNhZbNZCjstL7Fzcx; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:43549 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TJ3Uo-0006x1-Js; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 08:30:50 -0600 Message-ID: <506AFA9B.2000508@labn.net> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 10:30:51 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CCAMP X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Subject: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:31:12 -0000 CCAMP, The WG has several WSON-related drafts including: 1. draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode 2. draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te 3. draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode 4. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf 5. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling These drafts are currently identified as being on the Standards Track. The WG typically requests Standards Track publication of documents that fill/fix a clear protocol function and/or have strong WG support. Given the scope of this work as well as the time the drafts have been active in the WG, we'd like to solicit the WG's input on the publication track to be requested. Once the WG reaches consensus on these drafts (as indicated by a *future* WG last call), Standards Track publication can be requested or these drafts could also be published via a non-Standards Track, see section 4.2 of RFC2026 for all options. Please let us know (preferably by responding on the WG list) if you: a. Support targeting all of these documents for Standards Track publication? [yes/no] b. If no, support targeting some of these documents for Standards Track publication? [1, yes/no 2, yes/no 3, yes/no 4, yes/no 5, yes/no] c. If no to any of the above, which status do you think appropriate? [Experimental or Informational] d. Finally, we are most interested in hearing from anyone who has, or is planning an implementation based on the WG drafts. We understand that some may not want this information published, so please let any of the chairs and/or ADs know (Lou, Deborah, Adrian or Stewart), and they will publish the information without any personal or company identification. Keep in mind that this mail is *not* starting a WG last call on any of the documents identified above. We'd like input on intended publication status prior to any last call discussion. Lou and Deborah From leeyoung@huawei.com Tue Oct 2 08:15:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2839121F853E for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:15:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nvlFVZ7E+8EF for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6473021F853D for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml203-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id ALG25977; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 15:15:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML402-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.241) by lhreml203-edg.huawei.com (172.18.7.221) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:15:38 +0100 Received: from DFWEML405-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.102) by lhreml402-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.241) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:15:45 +0100 Received: from dfweml511-mbx.china.huawei.com ([169.254.16.239]) by dfweml405-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.193.5.102]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:15:43 -0700 From: Leeyoung To: Lou Berger , CCAMP Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents Thread-Index: AQHNoKqXuJMrPJKG/0W/ESnIc/YZ/ZemH72w Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:15:42 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E172907AC47@dfweml511-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <506AFA9B.2000508@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <506AFA9B.2000508@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.192.11.176] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 15:15:50 -0000 I support option (a).=20 Young -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of L= ou Berger Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:31 AM To: CCAMP Subject: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents CCAMP, The WG has several WSON-related drafts including: 1. draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode 2. draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te 3. draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode 4. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf =09 5. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling These drafts are currently identified as being on the Standards Track. The WG typically requests Standards Track publication of documents that fill/fix a clear protocol function and/or have strong WG support. Given the scope of this work as well as the time the drafts have been active in the WG, we'd like to solicit the WG's input on the publication track to be requested. Once the WG reaches consensus on these drafts (as indicated by a *future* WG last call), Standards Track publication can be requested or these drafts could also be published via a non-Standards Track, see section 4.2 of RFC2026 for all options. Please let us know (preferably by responding on the WG list) if you: a. Support targeting all of these documents for Standards Track publication? [yes/no] b. If no, support targeting some of these documents for Standards Track publication? [1, yes/no 2, yes/no 3, yes/no 4, yes/no 5, yes/no] c. If no to any of the above, which status do you think appropriate? [Experimental or Informational] d. Finally, we are most interested in hearing from anyone who has, or is planning an implementation based on the WG drafts. We understand that some may not want this information published, so please let any of the chairs and/or ADs know (Lou, Deborah, Adrian or Stewart), and they will publish the information without any personal or company identification. Keep in mind that this mail is *not* starting a WG last call on any of the documents identified above. We'd like input on intended publication status prior to any last call discussion. Lou and Deborah _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From julien.meuric@orange.com Tue Oct 2 08:48:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E47121F841C for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:48:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7zOggaz5aikO for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from r-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com (r-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com [217.108.152.42]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9F021F852E for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from r-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 844F45D8A4A; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:48:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ftrdsmtp1.rd.francetelecom.fr (unknown [10.192.128.46]) by r-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7744A5D895E; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:48:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ftrdmel10.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.192.128.44]) by ftrdsmtp1.rd.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:48:19 +0200 Received: from [10.193.71.236] ([10.193.71.236]) by ftrdmel10.rd.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:48:19 +0200 Message-ID: <506B0CC2.4080202@orange.com> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 17:48:18 +0200 From: Julien Meuric Organization: France Telecom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2012 15:48:19.0675 (UTC) FILETIME=[586E22B0:01CDA0B5] Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" , "draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 15:48:23 -0000 Hi. No applicable IPR I'm aware of. Julien Le 01/10/2012 23:17, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A a écrit : > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) > > As part of the poll on making this document a WG document: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. > > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs > > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > From gregb@grotto-networking.com Tue Oct 2 11:59:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8942F21F8532 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 11:59:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zWvBgHPiqXFj for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 11:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.webfaction.com (mail6.webfaction.com [74.55.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0782621F850D for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 11:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.4] (c-24-7-86-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.7.86.163]) by smtp.webfaction.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F207F2155C28 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 13:59:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <506B3990.2080609@grotto-networking.com> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:59:28 -0700 From: Greg Bernstein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ccamp@ietf.org References: <506AFA9B.2000508@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <506AFA9B.2000508@labn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 18:59:34 -0000 Support option (a). Greg On 10/2/2012 7:30 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > CCAMP, > > The WG has several WSON-related drafts including: > 1. draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode > 2. draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te > 3. draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode > 4. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf > 5. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling > > These drafts are currently identified as being on the Standards > Track. The WG typically requests Standards Track publication of > documents that fill/fix a clear protocol function and/or have > strong WG support. Given the scope of this work as well as the > time the drafts have been active in the WG, we'd like to solicit > the WG's input on the publication track to be requested. > > Once the WG reaches consensus on these drafts (as indicated by a > *future* WG last call), Standards Track publication can be > requested or these drafts could also be published via a > non-Standards Track, see section 4.2 of RFC2026 for all options. > > Please let us know (preferably by responding on the WG list) if you: > > a. Support targeting all of these documents for Standards Track > publication? > [yes/no] > > b. If no, support targeting some of these documents for Standards > Track publication? > [1, yes/no > 2, yes/no > 3, yes/no > 4, yes/no > 5, yes/no] > > c. If no to any of the above, which status do you think appropriate? > [Experimental or Informational] > > d. Finally, we are most interested in hearing from anyone who has, > or is planning an implementation based on the WG drafts. We > understand that some may not want this information published, > so please let any of the chairs and/or ADs know (Lou, > Deborah, Adrian or Stewart), and they will publish the > information without any personal or company identification. > > Keep in mind that this mail is *not* starting a WG last call on > any of the documents identified above. We'd like input on > intended publication status prior to any last call discussion. > > Lou and Deborah > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > -- =================================================== Dr Greg Bernstein, Grotto Networking (510) 573-2237 From Dirk.Schroetter@nutsix.de Wed Oct 3 00:49:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A0B21F865B for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 00:49:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iqAickYS9ZlI for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 00:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.sgritter.de (mail.sgritter.de [84.38.67.95]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7381021F8658 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 00:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.26] (p4FFE0416.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.254.4.22]) by mail.sgritter.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9FE5023A357; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 09:49:18 +0200 (CEST) References: <506AFA9B.2000508@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <506AFA9B.2000508@labn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) From: Dirk Schroetter Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 09:49:23 +0200 To: Lou Berger Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 07:49:25 -0000 Lou, I do support option a. BR /Dirk Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse any spelling errors. Am 02.10.2012 um 16:30 schrieb Lou Berger : > CCAMP, > > The WG has several WSON-related drafts including: > 1. draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode > 2. draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te > 3. draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode > 4. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf > 5. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling > > These drafts are currently identified as being on the Standards > Track. The WG typically requests Standards Track publication of > documents that fill/fix a clear protocol function and/or have > strong WG support. Given the scope of this work as well as the > time the drafts have been active in the WG, we'd like to solicit > the WG's input on the publication track to be requested. > > Once the WG reaches consensus on these drafts (as indicated by a > *future* WG last call), Standards Track publication can be > requested or these drafts could also be published via a > non-Standards Track, see section 4.2 of RFC2026 for all options. > > Please let us know (preferably by responding on the WG list) if you: > > a. Support targeting all of these documents for Standards Track > publication? > [yes/no] > > b. If no, support targeting some of these documents for Standards > Track publication? > [1, yes/no > 2, yes/no > 3, yes/no > 4, yes/no > 5, yes/no] > > c. If no to any of the above, which status do you think appropriate? > [Experimental or Informational] > > d. Finally, we are most interested in hearing from anyone who has, > or is planning an implementation based on the WG drafts. We > understand that some may not want this information published, > so please let any of the chairs and/or ADs know (Lou, > Deborah, Adrian or Stewart), and they will publish the > information without any personal or company identification. > > Keep in mind that this mail is *not* starting a WG last call on > any of the documents identified above. We'd like input on > intended publication status prior to any last call discussion. > > Lou and Deborah > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > From dieter.beller@alcatel-lucent.com Wed Oct 3 02:00:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C21821F86CB for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 02:00:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.791 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.791 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FB+WFjJtvDBw for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 02:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail2.alcatel.fr (smail2.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.57]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C68A21F86C9 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 02:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.62]) by smail2.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q938uYS4010527 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 3 Oct 2012 11:00:09 +0200 Received: from [135.244.176.14] (135.120.57.7) by FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (135.120.45.62) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:59:32 +0200 Message-ID: <506BFE73.4000905@alcatel-lucent.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:59:31 +0200 From: Dieter Beller Organization: Alcatel-Lucent User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "ccamp@ietf.org" References: In-Reply-To: X-SubSwitch: [CCAMP]; [CCAMP] Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------030809060602050204040305" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.80 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 09:00:21 -0000 --------------030809060602050204040305 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yes/support

Thanks,
Dieter

On 01.10.2012 23:11, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote:
All,

This is to start a two week poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a ccamp working group document. Please send mail to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your technical reservations with the document.

The poll ends Monday Oct 15.

Thanks,
Deborah (and Lou)


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Thanks, Deborah (and Lou) _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From Malcolm.BETTS@zte.com.cn Wed Oct 3 10:10:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A750F21F8673 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:10:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.547 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.547 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.051, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6blmNdQm7vlN for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zte.com.cn (mx5.zte.com.cn [63.217.80.70]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C2421F859F for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mse01.zte.com.cn (unknown [10.30.3.20]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id 8BA1D126851C; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 01:03:15 +0800 (CST) Received: from notes_smtp.zte.com.cn ([10.30.1.239]) by mse01.zte.com.cn with ESMTP id q93HAFt2082226; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 01:10:15 +0800 (GMT-8) (envelope-from Malcolm.BETTS@zte.com.cn) In-Reply-To: <506AECA9.40005@labn.net> References: <5065B228.1070701@labn.net> <506AECA9.40005@labn.net> To: Lou Berger MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KeepSent: 1D1D9A52:75C2F479-85257A8C:005E3F73; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.5.1 September 28, 2009 Message-ID: From: Malcolm.BETTS@zte.com.cn Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:10:10 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on notes_smtp/zte_ltd(Release 8.5.3FP1 HF212|May 23, 2012) at 2012-10-04 01:10:12, Serialize complete at 2012-10-04 01:10:12 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005E529F85257A8C_=" X-MAIL: mse01.zte.com.cn q93HAFt2082226 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Fwd: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 17:10:21 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005E529F85257A8C_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Lou, I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft. Regards, Malcolm Lou Berger 02/10/2012 09:31 AM To "Malcolm BETTS" cc Subject Fwd: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework Malcom, looks like your address in the draft is wrong. Please respond on-list... Lou -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:20:24 -0400 From: Lou Berger To: zhangfatai@huawei.com, huawei.danli@huawei.com, lihan@chinamobile.com, sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.it, daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com, hanjianrui@huawei.com, malcolm.betts@huawei.com CC: CCAMP Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp --=_alternative 005E529F85257A8C_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Lou,

I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft.

Regards,

Malcolm



Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>

02/10/2012 09:31 AM

To
"Malcolm BETTS" <Malcolm.BETTS@zte.com.cn>
cc
Subject
Fwd: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework





Malcom,
                looks like your address in the draft is wrong.  Please respond on-list...

Lou


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:20:24 -0400
From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
To: zhangfatai@huawei.com, huawei.danli@huawei.com,
lihan@chinamobile.com, sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.it,
daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com, hanjianrui@huawei.com,
malcolm.betts@huawei.com
CC: CCAMP <ccamp@ietf.org>

Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP)

As part of the preparation for WG Last Call:

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to
draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR.  This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
contributor.  NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS
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which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of
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information, please see the RFCs listed above and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

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--=_alternative 005E529F85257A8C_=-- From ramon.casellas@cttc.es Wed Oct 3 23:12:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381F821F85DA for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 23:12:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tCfgMeauzm9t for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 23:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from torres.puc.rediris.es (unknown [IPv6:2001:720:418:ca00::9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F4721F85C0 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 23:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [84.88.62.208] (helo=leo) by torres.puc.rediris.es with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TJefM-0008Fr-CZ for ccamp@ietf.org; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 08:12:12 +0200 Received: from [84.88.61.50] (unknown [84.88.61.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by leo (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2C44C1FC1B for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 08:12:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-From: ramon.casellas@cttc.es Message-ID: <506D28B9.9050001@cttc.es> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 08:12:09 +0200 From: Ramon Casellas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ccamp@ietf.org References: <007f01cda1ed$4cf07300$e6d15900$@dhody@huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <007f01cda1ed$4cf07300$e6d15900$@dhody@huawei.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <007f01cda1ed$4cf07300$e6d15900$@dhody@huawei.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SPF-Received: 4 X-Spamina-Bogosity: Ham Subject: [CCAMP] Fwd: FW: New Version Notification for draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-00.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 06:12:15 -0000 Dear ccampers, all, The following draft has been uploaded by Dhruv. It is the result/spin-off of previous work trying to add domain sequences within the PCEP protocol (PCE WG), in the scope of multi-domain path computation. Its main purpose is to define ?RO sub-objects for 4-byte autonomous systems and IGP Areas. Such definition was originally provided within the PCEP document, but imho it belongs to ccamp. Some context * Original document https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-domain-sequence/?include_text=1 * (Past) adoption of draft-ietf-pce-pcep-domain-sequence-00 (As Experimental) http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pce/current/msg02816.html * Preliminary discussion and uses cases http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pce/current/msg02580.html http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pce/current/msg02561.html * Adrian comments and discussion http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pce/current/msg02791.html Comments more than welcome. Thanks and best regards, Ramon PS: As a (co-)author I am not aware of any IPR that covers this draft, other than https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1690/ (not involved) > -----Original Message----- > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 10:29 PM > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain- > subobjects-00.txt > > A new version of I-D, draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-00.txt > has been successfully submitted by Dhruv Dhody and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Filename: draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects > Revision: 00 > Title: Domain Subobjects for Resource ReserVation Protocol - > Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) > Creation date: 2012-10-03 > WG ID: Individual Submission > Number of pages: 13 > URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp- > te-domain-subobjects-00.txt > Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te- > domain-subobjects > Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te- > domain-subobjects-00 > > > Abstract: > The RSVP-TE specification, [RFC3209] and GMPLS extensions to RSVP-TE, > [RFC3473] allow abstract nodes and resources to be explicitly > included in a path setup. Further Exclude Routes Extension [RFC4874] > allow abstract nodes and resources to be explicitly excluded in a > path setup. > > The use of Autonomous Number (AS) (2-Byte) as an abstract node > representing domain is already defined in [RFC3209] and [RFC4874]. > > This document specifies new subobjects to include or exclude domains > during path setup where domain is a collection of network elements > within a common sphere of address management or path computational > responsibility such as an IGP area or an Autonomous Systems (4-Byte). > > > > > The IETF Secretariat From internet-drafts@ietf.org Thu Oct 4 06:49:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2B321F86D4; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 06:49:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.501 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.501 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.098, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4Q-lWVRo2LEK; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 06:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56FD21F86DB; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 06:49:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121004134907.32437.27878.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 06:49:07 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib-14.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:49:08 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Work= ing Group of the IETF. Title : Traffic Engineering Database Management Information Base= in support of MPLS-TE/GMPLS Author(s) : Masanori Miyazawa Tomohiro Otani Kenji Kumaki Thomas D. Nadeau Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib-14.txt Pages : 33 Date : 2012-10-04 Abstract: This memo defines the Management Information Base (MIB) objects in order to manage traffic engineering database (TED) information with extension in support of Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) with traffic engineering (TE) as well as Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) for use with network management protocols. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib-14 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib-14 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From ma-miyazawa@kddilabs.jp Thu Oct 4 16:55:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48881F041F for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 16:55:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2jyUqxja30WZ for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 16:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mandala.kddilabs.jp (mandala.kddilabs.jp [IPv6:2001:200:601:12::16]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7571F041E for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 16:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mandala.kddilabs.jp [127.0.0.1]) by mandala.kddilabs.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D517817481B1; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 08:55:38 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at kddilabs.jp Received: from mandala.kddilabs.jp ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mandala.kddilabs.jp [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id It2XWD00y2X9; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 08:55:37 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail.cn.kddilabs.jp (yellow.lan.kddilabs.jp [172.19.98.10]) by mandala.kddilabs.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E850B174817B; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 08:55:37 +0900 (JST) Received: from miyazawaVAIO (dhcp50.wlan.kddilabs.jp [172.19.110.50]) by mail.cn.kddilabs.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41541E0002; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 08:55:37 +0900 (JST) From: "Masanori Miyazawa" To: , References: <0b7101cd3de9$8bfadbc0$a3f09340$@olddog.co.uk> <00ef01cd43b1$35ebf160$a1c3d420$@kddilabs.jp> <153401cd8046$b2af4770$180dd650$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <153401cd8046$b2af4770$180dd650$@olddog.co.uk> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 08:55:33 +0900 Message-ID: <004b01cda28b$bddd4040$3997c0c0$@kddilabs.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHQW7vPShMYMTWtVF3+Petz8y8AvgFifFZkAgasLsGXiRPgAA== Content-Language: ja Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] AD review of draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 23:55:53 -0000 Adrian I revised the document based on your comments. Could you please confirm it? http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib-14 Regards, Masanori > -----Original Message----- > From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:16 PM > To: 'Masanori Miyazawa'; > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib.all@tools.ietf.org > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: RE: AD review of draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib > > Hi, > > I'm sorry! I missed this email. > > Please see in line. > > > > Could you please sort out "MIB" versus "MIB module". There is only > > > one MIB. There are many MIB modules - this document defines a MIB > > > module > > > > > [Masanori Miyazawa] > > # I could not understand above comment. You mean that descriptions of > > "MIB modules" exit in this document? > > Mainly you should talk about "the MIB module defined in this document". > > The MIB module defined in this document forms part of "the MIB" i.e. all > the data in the whole world:-) > > > > You need to avoid using citations (e.g. [RFC3630]) within the MIB > > > module itself. MIB modules are extracted from their documents and stand > alone. > > This means that you are allowed to use square brackets between in the MIB > module itself. > > Some example changes are... > > OLD > tedTable OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX SEQUENCE OF TedEntry > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "This table indicates multiple TED information which has been > supported by [RFC3630]." > ::= { tedObjects 1 } > NEW > tedTable OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX SEQUENCE OF TedEntry > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "This table indicates multiple TED information which has been > supported by RFC 3630." > REFERENCE > "Traffic Engineering (TE) Extensions to OSPF Version 2, > RFC 3630." > ::= { tedObjects 1 } > END > > > OLD > tedLocalRouterId OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX TedRouterIdTC > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "This object represents the router ID of the router originating > the LSA. If OSPF is used to advertise LSA, this represents a Router > ID. If ISIS is used, this represents a System ID. Otherwise, this > represents zero." > REFERENCE > " OSPF Version 2, [RFC2328], C.1 > OSPF for IPv6, [RFC5340], C.1 > [ISO10589], Section 7.1 " > ::= { tedEntry 2 } > NEW > tedLocalRouterId OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX TedRouterIdTC > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "This object represents the router ID of the router originating > the LSA. If OSPF is used to advertise LSA, this represents a Router > ID. If ISIS is used, this represents a System ID. Otherwise, this > represents zero." > REFERENCE > "1. OSPF Version 2, RFC 2328, C.1 > 2. OSPF for IPv6, RFC 5340, C.1 > 3. Intermediate system to Intermediate system routeing > information exchange protocol for use in conjunction with > the Protocol for providing the Connectionless-mode Network > Service (ISO 8473), ISO10589, Section 7.1." > ::= { tedEntry 2 } > END > > > OLD > tedLinkType OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX INTEGER { > pointToPoint (1), > multiAccess (2) > } > MAX-ACCESS read-only > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "This indicates the type of the link such as point-to-point or > multi-access." > REFERENCE > " Traffic Engineering (TE) Extensions to OSPF Version 2, [RFC > 3630], 2.5.1" > ::= { tedEntry 8 } > NEW > tedLinkType OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX INTEGER { > pointToPoint (1), > multiAccess (2) > } > MAX-ACCESS read-only > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "This indicates the type of the link such as point-to-point or > multi-access." > REFERENCE > "Traffic Engineering (TE) Extensions to OSPF Version 2, > RFC 3630, 2.5.1" > ::= { tedEntry 8 } > END > > > > > I'm having some trouble with the use of 2119 language in the > > > Description for tedLinkInformationData. > > > > > > Two examples... > > > > > > If tedLinkInformationSource has the value unknown(0), this > > > object SHOULD contain a value of zeroDotZero. > > > > > > Under what circumstances can this use of "SHOULD" be varied? > > [Masanori Miyazawa] > > # At this time, we do not have a detailed situation to vary change to > > the value unknown (0). > > Should we delete the word "SHOULD"? or should the value unknown (0) be > > deleted in this MIB if it is not used? > > This looks like it needs to read... > > If tedLinkInformationSource has the value unknown(0), this > object MUST contain a value of zeroDotZero. > > > > If tedLinkInformationSource has the value > > > locallyConfigured(1), this object MAY contain the identifier > of > > > the corresponding row entry in the teLinkTable of TE-LINK-STD- > > > MIB[RFC4220], the identifier of the corresponding row in a local > > > proprietary TE link MIB module, or the value of zeroDotZero > > > otherwise. > > > > > > The use of "MAY" here implies that an implementation can choose to > > > fill in the row pointer if it likes, but this is entirely an > > > implementation choice. Is this what you are saying, or do you want > > > to constrain the behavior more forcefully if TE-LINK-STD-MIB is > implemented? > > > > > [Masanori Miyazawa] > > # No, we think the implementation of this object is not constrained > > forcefully. If the pointer is needed, we think this object should be > used. > > OK. > How about making it... > > If tedLinkInformationSource has the value > locallyConfigured(1), an implementation can use this object to > supply the identifier of the corresponding row entry in the > teLinkTable of TE-LINK-STD-MIB (RFC 4220), the identifier of > the corresponding row in a local proprietary TE link MIB module, > or the value of zeroDotZero. > > > > tedLocalIfAddrEntry OBJECT-TYPE > > > SYNTAX TedLocalIfAddrEntry > > > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > > > STATUS current > > > DESCRIPTION > > > "This entry contains the IP address information of the > > > local TE > > > link." > > > INDEX { tedLinkIndex, tedLocalIfAddr } > > > ::= { tedLocalIfAddrTable 1 } > > > > > > TedLocalIfAddrEntry ::= SEQUENCE { > > > tedLocalIfAddrType InetAddressType, > > > tedLocalIfAddr InetAddress > > > > > > } > > > > > > What would it look like to walk this table by increasing index value? > > > Would all the shorter v4 addresses show first, or would the > > > numerically smaller v6 addresses get mixed in with the v4 addresses? > > > > > > If the latter is possible, you should use the address type as an > > > index as well. > > > > > [Masanori Miyazawa] > > # As you know, note that tedLocalIfAddrTable as well as > > tedRemoteIfAddrTable are independently defined, because the Interface > > IP Address sub-TLV may appear more than once within the same Link-TLV. > > Therefore, if the address is only used as index, another arbitrary > > index such as tedIndex would be also needed to represent the > > relationship with tedTable. > > OK. Understood. > > > > tedStatusChangeNotificationMaxRate and > > > tedCreatedDeletedNotificationMaxRate > > > > > > I am surprised that the Defval for these is 0 (no throttling) since > > > the text recognises that this is a risky situation that may cause > > > the box to blow up. Surely the default should be some safe setting. > > > > > > But then I wondered what a suitable safe setting would be and > > > realised it would be "No Notifications". Except there is no way to > > > say this with these objects. > > > > > > What do you think? > > [Masanori Miyazawa] > > #The reason for setting 0 as defval is to prevent sudden increase in > > notification information. If we set the value as 10, the SNMP manager > > would receive a number of alarms which is proportional to number of > > routers. For instance, same ospf domain consists of 5 routers, the > > SNMP manager would receive up to 50 alarms. So, I think that the optimal > value of defval is 1. > > OK. Make that change. > > > > For completeness, we usually get asked to state in the Security > > > section what the risks are with write access objects. In this case > > > it is really easy... > > > > > > There are only two write-access objects in this MIB module: > > > tedStatusChangeNotificationMaxRate and > > > tedCreatedDeletedNotificationMaxRate. Malicious modification of > > > these objects could cause the management agent, the network, or the > > > router to become overloaded with Notifications in cases of high > > > churn within the network. > > [Masanori Miyazawa] > > # You mean that we only need to describe the above sentence in section > > 8[security consideration]? > > Yes. > > Thanks, > Adrian > From adrian@olddog.co.uk Fri Oct 5 01:16:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D037C21F8602; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 01:16:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i683MIsBiSFs; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 01:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (asmtp4.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.175]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D1421F85C7; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 01:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q958GKgL006956; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 09:16:20 +0100 Received: from 950129200 ([31.103.196.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q958GIGw006923 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Oct 2012 09:16:19 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: , , , Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 09:16:14 +0100 Message-ID: <109201cda2d1$b2ae14b0$180a3e10$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2i0aEyORRgwZMuSJS/Gc5CCMbTEA== Content-Language: en-gb Cc: 'WG Chairs' , iesg@ietf.org, 'Wanda Lo' Subject: [CCAMP] CCAMP, PWE3, MANET, KARP: 85th IETF DRAFT Agenda X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 08:16:27 -0000 [Attention Karp chairs - you are sucked in] stop cease desist! If you all randomly (and I say randomly advisedly!) fire in agenda changes you will really, erm, mess things up. So PWE3, in order to avoid a conflict with CCAMP have asked to move to the same time slot that CCAMP have asked to move their other meeting to. There has to be some sort of coordination, and that is what you pay your ADs for. FWIW, simply moving either CCAMP or PWE3 to Monday 15.20 doesn't work for the ADs because of other clashes. So: 1. Wanda, please don't make any changes yet 2. Everyone, please try to get used to the idea of a few conflicts every so often 3. CCAMP, PWE3, MANET and KARP chairs please check the following and Ack to me: CCAMP Thursday 9.00 -> Tuesday 17.00 (1.5 hours) MANET (proposed) Friday 11.20 -> Wednesday 13.00 (1.5 hours) PWE3-KARP swap Monday 9.00 <-> Monday 15.20 (2.5 hours <-> 2 hours) Thanks, Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Lou Berger > Sent: 04 October 2012 23:59 > To: Wanda Lo > Cc: WG Chairs; irsg@irtf.org; BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS > Subject: Re: 85th IETF DRAFT Agenda > > Wanda, > Looks like CCAMP is the one for conflicts this time, which is only fair > as we haven't had any for a while. > > We also have a conflict on our second session. Can we move CCAMP's > second session to either the Monday 15:20 slot (if you don't give it to > PWE), or to one of the open 1.5hr slots on Tuesday or Wednesday? Either > way this move frees up a Thursday 2.5 hour slot. > > Much thanks! > Lou > (CCAMP co-chair) > > > On 10/4/2012 6:07 PM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > > Wanda, > > > > PWE3 and CCAMP being up against each other is a major conflict. CCAMP > > was on our list of other WGs to avoid. Could we move PWE3 to Monday at > > 15:20 instead? We'd be willing to take the 1/2 hour hit in order to > > avoid the conflict, since the only other open morning slots also have > > bad conflicts for us. > > > > Thanks, > > Andy > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Wanda Lo > > wrote: > > > > Attached is the 85th matrix grid for easy viewing. > > > > Wanda > > > > > > > > On Oct 4, 2012, at 2:39 PM, IETF Agenda wrote: > > > >> The DRAFT agenda is ready for viewing. Please note the cutoff > >> date for > >> requests to reschedule Working Group, IRTF, and BoF meetings is > >> October 8, 2012. The final agenda will be published on October > >> 12, 2012. > >> > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.html > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.txt > >> > >> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/85/index.html > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Wanda > >> > >> Only 30 days until Atlanta, 85th IETF! > >> Online registration for the IETF meeting is at: > >> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/register.html > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===========================____ > > Wanda Lo / Project Manager____ > > Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)____ > > ____48377 Fremont Blvd., Ste. 117__ > > __Fremont__, __California__ __94538____ / ____USA____ > > T: +1.510.492.4082 > > F: +1.510.492.4001 > > _www.ietf.org _____ > > ____ > > /--//____/ > > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS)____ > > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning____ > > www.amsl.com > > > > > > > > > > > > From adrian@olddog.co.uk Fri Oct 5 04:19:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60ECA21F86C6 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 04:19:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0-QhHUzL+LV0 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 04:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (asmtp4.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.175]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEEE621F86C5 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 04:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q95BIxuc012319; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:19:00 +0100 Received: from 950129200 ([31.99.224.215]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q95BIuvf012270 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:18:58 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Masanori Miyazawa'" , References: <0b7101cd3de9$8bfadbc0$a3f09340$@olddog.co.uk> <00ef01cd43b1$35ebf160$a1c3d420$@kddilabs.jp> <153401cd8046$b2af4770$180dd650$@olddog.co.uk> <004b01cda28b$bddd4040$3997c0c0$@kddilabs.jp> In-Reply-To: <004b01cda28b$bddd4040$3997c0c0$@kddilabs.jp> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:18:55 +0100 Message-ID: <10ca01cda2eb$36851cc0$a38f5640$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHQW7vPShMYMTWtVF3+Petz8y8AvgFifFZkAgasLsECzcHc8pdzZlqQ Content-Language: en-gb Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] AD review of draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 11:19:03 -0000 Thanks. Looks pretty good. I have requested IETF last call. I think the WG may want to look at the document again during the last call to check they are happy with all the changes. Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: Masanori Miyazawa [mailto:ma-miyazawa@kddilabs.jp] > Sent: 05 October 2012 00:56 > To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib.all@tools.ietf.org > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: RE: AD review of draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib > > Adrian > > I revised the document based on your comments. > Could you please confirm it? > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib-14 > > Regards, > Masanori > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:16 PM > > To: 'Masanori Miyazawa'; > > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib.all@tools.ietf.org > > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > > Subject: RE: AD review of draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm sorry! I missed this email. > > > > Please see in line. > > > > > > Could you please sort out "MIB" versus "MIB module". There is only > > > > one MIB. There are many MIB modules - this document defines a MIB > > > > module > > > > > > > [Masanori Miyazawa] > > > # I could not understand above comment. You mean that descriptions of > > > "MIB modules" exit in this document? > > > > Mainly you should talk about "the MIB module defined in this document". > > > > The MIB module defined in this document forms part of "the MIB" i.e. all > > the data in the whole world:-) > > > > > > You need to avoid using citations (e.g. [RFC3630]) within the MIB > > > > module itself. MIB modules are extracted from their documents and > stand > > alone. > > > > This means that you are allowed to use square brackets between in the MIB > > module itself. > > > > Some example changes are... > > > > OLD > > tedTable OBJECT-TYPE > > SYNTAX SEQUENCE OF TedEntry > > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > > STATUS current > > DESCRIPTION > > "This table indicates multiple TED information which has been > > supported by [RFC3630]." > > ::= { tedObjects 1 } > > NEW > > tedTable OBJECT-TYPE > > SYNTAX SEQUENCE OF TedEntry > > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > > STATUS current > > DESCRIPTION > > "This table indicates multiple TED information which has been > > supported by RFC 3630." > > REFERENCE > > "Traffic Engineering (TE) Extensions to OSPF Version 2, > > RFC 3630." > > ::= { tedObjects 1 } > > END > > > > > > OLD > > tedLocalRouterId OBJECT-TYPE > > SYNTAX TedRouterIdTC > > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > > STATUS current > > DESCRIPTION > > "This object represents the router ID of the router originating > > the LSA. If OSPF is used to advertise LSA, this represents a Router > > ID. If ISIS is used, this represents a System ID. Otherwise, this > > represents zero." > > REFERENCE > > " OSPF Version 2, [RFC2328], C.1 > > OSPF for IPv6, [RFC5340], C.1 > > [ISO10589], Section 7.1 " > > ::= { tedEntry 2 } > > NEW > > tedLocalRouterId OBJECT-TYPE > > SYNTAX TedRouterIdTC > > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > > STATUS current > > DESCRIPTION > > "This object represents the router ID of the router originating > > the LSA. If OSPF is used to advertise LSA, this represents a Router > > ID. If ISIS is used, this represents a System ID. Otherwise, this > > represents zero." > > REFERENCE > > "1. OSPF Version 2, RFC 2328, C.1 > > 2. OSPF for IPv6, RFC 5340, C.1 > > 3. Intermediate system to Intermediate system routeing > > information exchange protocol for use in conjunction with > > the Protocol for providing the Connectionless-mode Network > > Service (ISO 8473), ISO10589, Section 7.1." > > ::= { tedEntry 2 } > > END > > > > > > OLD > > tedLinkType OBJECT-TYPE > > SYNTAX INTEGER { > > pointToPoint (1), > > multiAccess (2) > > } > > MAX-ACCESS read-only > > STATUS current > > DESCRIPTION > > "This indicates the type of the link such as point-to-point or > > multi-access." > > REFERENCE > > " Traffic Engineering (TE) Extensions to OSPF Version 2, [RFC > > 3630], 2.5.1" > > ::= { tedEntry 8 } > > NEW > > tedLinkType OBJECT-TYPE > > SYNTAX INTEGER { > > pointToPoint (1), > > multiAccess (2) > > } > > MAX-ACCESS read-only > > STATUS current > > DESCRIPTION > > "This indicates the type of the link such as point-to-point or > > multi-access." > > REFERENCE > > "Traffic Engineering (TE) Extensions to OSPF Version 2, > > RFC 3630, 2.5.1" > > ::= { tedEntry 8 } > > END > > > > > > > > I'm having some trouble with the use of 2119 language in the > > > > Description for tedLinkInformationData. > > > > > > > > Two examples... > > > > > > > > If tedLinkInformationSource has the value unknown(0), this > > > > object SHOULD contain a value of zeroDotZero. > > > > > > > > Under what circumstances can this use of "SHOULD" be varied? > > > [Masanori Miyazawa] > > > # At this time, we do not have a detailed situation to vary change to > > > the value unknown (0). > > > Should we delete the word "SHOULD"? or should the value unknown (0) be > > > deleted in this MIB if it is not used? > > > > This looks like it needs to read... > > > > If tedLinkInformationSource has the value unknown(0), this > > object MUST contain a value of zeroDotZero. > > > > > > If tedLinkInformationSource has the value > > > > locallyConfigured(1), this object MAY contain the identifier > > of > > > > the corresponding row entry in the teLinkTable of TE-LINK-STD- > > > > MIB[RFC4220], the identifier of the corresponding row in a > local > > > > proprietary TE link MIB module, or the value of zeroDotZero > > > > otherwise. > > > > > > > > The use of "MAY" here implies that an implementation can choose to > > > > fill in the row pointer if it likes, but this is entirely an > > > > implementation choice. Is this what you are saying, or do you want > > > > to constrain the behavior more forcefully if TE-LINK-STD-MIB is > > implemented? > > > > > > > [Masanori Miyazawa] > > > # No, we think the implementation of this object is not constrained > > > forcefully. If the pointer is needed, we think this object should be > > used. > > > > OK. > > How about making it... > > > > If tedLinkInformationSource has the value > > locallyConfigured(1), an implementation can use this object to > > supply the identifier of the corresponding row entry in the > > teLinkTable of TE-LINK-STD-MIB (RFC 4220), the identifier of > > the corresponding row in a local proprietary TE link MIB module, > > or the value of zeroDotZero. > > > > > > tedLocalIfAddrEntry OBJECT-TYPE > > > > SYNTAX TedLocalIfAddrEntry > > > > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > > > > STATUS current > > > > DESCRIPTION > > > > "This entry contains the IP address information of the > > > > local TE > > > > link." > > > > INDEX { tedLinkIndex, tedLocalIfAddr } > > > > ::= { tedLocalIfAddrTable 1 } > > > > > > > > TedLocalIfAddrEntry ::= SEQUENCE { > > > > tedLocalIfAddrType InetAddressType, > > > > tedLocalIfAddr InetAddress > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > What would it look like to walk this table by increasing index value? > > > > Would all the shorter v4 addresses show first, or would the > > > > numerically smaller v6 addresses get mixed in with the v4 addresses? > > > > > > > > If the latter is possible, you should use the address type as an > > > > index as well. > > > > > > > [Masanori Miyazawa] > > > # As you know, note that tedLocalIfAddrTable as well as > > > tedRemoteIfAddrTable are independently defined, because the Interface > > > IP Address sub-TLV may appear more than once within the same Link-TLV. > > > Therefore, if the address is only used as index, another arbitrary > > > index such as tedIndex would be also needed to represent the > > > relationship with tedTable. > > > > OK. Understood. > > > > > > tedStatusChangeNotificationMaxRate and > > > > tedCreatedDeletedNotificationMaxRate > > > > > > > > I am surprised that the Defval for these is 0 (no throttling) since > > > > the text recognises that this is a risky situation that may cause > > > > the box to blow up. Surely the default should be some safe setting. > > > > > > > > But then I wondered what a suitable safe setting would be and > > > > realised it would be "No Notifications". Except there is no way to > > > > say this with these objects. > > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > [Masanori Miyazawa] > > > #The reason for setting 0 as defval is to prevent sudden increase in > > > notification information. If we set the value as 10, the SNMP manager > > > would receive a number of alarms which is proportional to number of > > > routers. For instance, same ospf domain consists of 5 routers, the > > > SNMP manager would receive up to 50 alarms. So, I think that the optimal > > value of defval is 1. > > > > OK. Make that change. > > > > > > For completeness, we usually get asked to state in the Security > > > > section what the risks are with write access objects. In this case > > > > it is really easy... > > > > > > > > There are only two write-access objects in this MIB module: > > > > tedStatusChangeNotificationMaxRate and > > > > tedCreatedDeletedNotificationMaxRate. Malicious modification of > > > > these objects could cause the management agent, the network, or the > > > > router to become overloaded with Notifications in cases of high > > > > churn within the network. > > > [Masanori Miyazawa] > > > # You mean that we only need to describe the above sentence in section > > > 8[security consideration]? > > > > Yes. > > > > Thanks, > > Adrian > > From amalis@gmail.com Fri Oct 5 04:58:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF8321F8489; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 04:58:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.565 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.565 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.033, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id an+I07csJ7bL; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 04:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F3121F844A; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 04:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id v19so1959512obq.31 for ; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 04:58:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=Ioy9+ZiNEJYKMI+qoNBUiDkRgYzbPKP/ykxi7fy88+A=; b=tdYiOoJdeQQHqhvQwAqFFRijznujvq2LeQjLSsO0AV6NC6oOOx7LwoT0S1D+sJyIIY TY4c3q0Voan2piLxHkiyhtsu1T/rTC+lE34dLpk8VBmhjkNxWJmh5BC8DHSmY9pyOpjN EjV1QhRyxghy23n/BTp86833yaj8STcrvG7li4NCW+nMeVqxs7UjhcICn5c8pS3VVzoC 1gy5DvzZ7+baRvYWv4mQOnE3sRhZqTV0zk0hniAKZLa+tBrcTEX/TZTuD4Qn2fmiJPjP ZUFdERyu137U1V9HV3JPC/s3dND3ytJHNpC3e+7FKoTQAC3qgAPMZcs24OujZxRgkHur RA4Q== Received: by 10.182.31.13 with SMTP id w13mr6966799obh.29.1349438322124; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 04:58:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.73.106 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 04:58:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <109201cda2d1$b2ae14b0$180a3e10$@olddog.co.uk> References: <109201cda2d1$b2ae14b0$180a3e10$@olddog.co.uk> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 07:58:22 -0400 Message-ID: To: adrian@olddog.co.uk Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93a148dd6261b04cb4e9717 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 05:28:14 -0700 Cc: manet-chairs@tools.ietf.org, WG Chairs , ccamp@ietf.org, karp-chairs@tools.ietf.org, pwe3-chairs@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] CCAMP, PWE3, MANET, KARP: 85th IETF DRAFT Agenda X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 11:58:43 -0000 --14dae93a148dd6261b04cb4e9717 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Adrian, ACK for PWE3. Cheers, Andy On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote: > [Attention Karp chairs - you are sucked in] > > stop > cease > desist! > > If you all randomly (and I say randomly advisedly!) fire in agenda changes > you > will really, erm, mess things up. > > So PWE3, in order to avoid a conflict with CCAMP have asked to move to the > same > time slot that CCAMP have asked to move their other meeting to. > > There has to be some sort of coordination, and that is what you pay your > ADs > for. > > FWIW, simply moving either CCAMP or PWE3 to Monday 15.20 doesn't work for > the > ADs because of other clashes. > > So: > 1. Wanda, please don't make any changes yet > 2. Everyone, please try to get used to the idea of a few conflicts every so > often > 3. CCAMP, PWE3, MANET and KARP chairs please check the following and Ack > to me: > > CCAMP Thursday 9.00 -> Tuesday 17.00 (1.5 hours) > MANET (proposed) Friday 11.20 -> Wednesday 13.00 (1.5 hours) > PWE3-KARP swap Monday 9.00 <-> Monday 15.20 (2.5 hours <-> 2 hours) > > Thanks, > Adrian > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf > > Of Lou Berger > > Sent: 04 October 2012 23:59 > > To: Wanda Lo > > Cc: WG Chairs; irsg@irtf.org; BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS > > Subject: Re: 85th IETF DRAFT Agenda > > > > Wanda, > > Looks like CCAMP is the one for conflicts this time, which is only > fair > > as we haven't had any for a while. > > > > We also have a conflict on our second session. Can we move CCAMP's > > second session to either the Monday 15:20 slot (if you don't give it to > > PWE), or to one of the open 1.5hr slots on Tuesday or Wednesday? Either > > way this move frees up a Thursday 2.5 hour slot. > > > > Much thanks! > > Lou > > (CCAMP co-chair) > > > > > > On 10/4/2012 6:07 PM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > > > Wanda, > > > > > > PWE3 and CCAMP being up against each other is a major conflict. CCAMP > > > was on our list of other WGs to avoid. Could we move PWE3 to Monday at > > > 15:20 instead? We'd be willing to take the 1/2 hour hit in order to > > > avoid the conflict, since the only other open morning slots also have > > > bad conflicts for us. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Andy > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Wanda Lo > > > wrote: > > > > > > Attached is the 85th matrix grid for easy viewing. > > > > > > Wanda > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 4, 2012, at 2:39 PM, IETF Agenda wrote: > > > > > >> The DRAFT agenda is ready for viewing. Please note the cutoff > > >> date for > > >> requests to reschedule Working Group, IRTF, and BoF meetings is > > >> October 8, 2012. The final agenda will be published on October > > >> 12, 2012. > > >> > > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.html > > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.txt > > >> > > >> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/85/index.html > > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Wanda > > >> > > >> Only 30 days until Atlanta, 85th IETF! > > >> Online registration for the IETF meeting is at: > > >> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/register.html > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===========================____ > > > Wanda Lo / Project Manager____ > > > Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)____ > > > ____48377 Fremont Blvd., Ste. 117__ > > > __Fremont__, __California__ __94538____ / ____USA____ > > > T: +1.510.492.4082 > > > F: +1.510.492.4001 > > > _www.ietf.org _____ > > > ____ > > > /--//____/ > > > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS)____ > > > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning____ > > > www.amsl.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --14dae93a148dd6261b04cb4e9717 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adrian,

ACK for PWE3.

Cheers,
Andy

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Adrian Farrel = <adrian@olddog.= co.uk> wrote:
[Attention Karp chairs - you are sucked in]<= br>
stop
cease
desist!

If you all randomly (and I say randomly advisedly!) fire in agenda changes = you
will really, erm, mess things up.

So PWE3, in order to avoid a conflict with CCAMP have asked to move to the = same
time slot that CCAMP have asked to move their other meeting to.

There has to be some sort of coordination, and that is what you pay your AD= s
for.

FWIW, simply moving either CCAMP or PWE3 to Monday 15.20 doesn't work f= or the
ADs because of other clashes.

So:
1. Wanda, please don't make any changes yet
2. Everyone, please try to get used to the idea of a few conflicts every so=
often
3. =A0CCAMP, PWE3, MANET and KARP chairs please check the following and Ack= to me:

CCAMP Thursday 9.00 -> Tuesday 17.00 (1.5 hours)
MANET (proposed) Friday 11.20 -> Wednesday 13.00 (1.5 hours)
PWE3-KARP swap Monday 9.00 <-> Monday 15.20 (2.5 hours <-> 2 ho= urs)

Thanks,
Adrian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wgchairs-bounces@ie= tf.org [mailto:wgchairs-bo= unces@ietf.org] On Behalf
> Of Lou Berger
> Sent: 04 October 2012 23:59
> To: Wanda Lo
> Cc: WG Chairs; irsg@irtf.org; BRU= NGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS
> Subject: Re: 85th IETF DRAFT Agenda
>
> Wanda,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 Looks like CCAMP is the one for conflicts this time, which= is only fair
> as we haven't had any for a while.
>
> We also have a conflict on our second session. =A0Can we move CCAMP= 9;s
> second session to either the Monday 15:20 slot (if you don't give = it to
> PWE), or to one of the open 1.5hr slots on Tuesday or Wednesday? =A0Ei= ther
> way this move frees up a Thursday 2.5 hour slot.
>
> Much thanks!
> Lou
> (CCAMP co-chair)
>
>
> On 10/4/2012 6:07 PM, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
> > Wanda,
> >
> > PWE3 and CCAMP being up against each other is a major conflict. C= CAMP
> > was on our list of other WGs to avoid. Could we move PWE3 to Mond= ay at
> > 15:20 instead? We'd be willing to take the 1/2 hour hit in or= der to
> > avoid the conflict, since the only other open morning slots also = have
> > bad conflicts for us.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Andy
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Wanda Lo <wlo@amsl.com
> > <mailto:wlo@amsl.com>&g= t; wrote:
> >
> > =A0 =A0 Attached is the 85th matrix grid for easy viewing.
> >
> > =A0 =A0 Wanda
> >
> >
> >
> > =A0 =A0 On Oct 4, 2012, at 2:39 PM, IETF Agenda wrote:
> >
> >> =A0 =A0 The DRAFT agenda is ready for viewing. =A0Please note= the cutoff
> >> =A0 =A0 date for
> >> =A0 =A0 requests to reschedule Working Group, IRTF, and BoF m= eetings is
> >> =A0 =A0 October 8, 2012. =A0The final agenda will be publishe= d on October
> >> =A0 =A0 12, 2012.
> >>
> >> =A0 =A0 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda= .html
> >> =A0 =A0 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.= txt
> >>
> >> =A0 =A0 http://www.ietf.org/meeting/85/index.html
> >>
> >>
> >> =A0 =A0 Thanks,
> >> =A0 =A0 Wanda
> >>
> >> =A0 =A0 Only 30 days until Atlanta, 85th IETF!
> >> =A0 =A0 Online registration for the IETF meeting is at:
> >> =A0 =A0 http://www.ietf.org/meeting/register.html
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > =A0 =A0 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D____
> > =A0 =A0 Wanda Lo / Project Manager____
> > =A0 =A0 Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)____
> > =A0 =A0 ____48377 Fremont Blvd., Ste. 117__
> > =A0 =A0 __Fremont__, __California__ __94538____ / ____USA____
> > =A0 =A0 T: +1.510.492.4082 <tel:%2B1.510.492.4082>
> > =A0 =A0 F: +1.510.492.4001 <tel:%2B1.510.492.4001>
> > =A0 =A0 _www.ie= tf.org <http://ww= w.ietf.org/>_____
> > =A0 =A0 =A0____
> > =A0 =A0 /--//____/
> > =A0 =A0 Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS)____
> > =A0 =A0 Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning____
> > =A0 =A0 www.ams= l.com <http://www= .amsl.com/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >


--14dae93a148dd6261b04cb4e9717-- From lberger@labn.net Fri Oct 5 05:32:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7625D21F86FF for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 05:32:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.032 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.032 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.129, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IfFZ-ggwuBhQ for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 05:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a7]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B6B2921F86FC for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 05:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28393 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2012 12:32:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Oct 2012 12:32:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=F93MP4lPlp/5aaoPS5zi7aeGoFRj4SGTTbYGf1lI/+E=; b=EJFO0h/kJhRbm2X6ht3/T54/z+OeDOJq1oLVg0aJNQaBQURxxyWv4JvIBaPt+jS2mcaGohgHcC9gibtdlWX1cPsT/T7NdwFa4fhGogrtORCFP7465A5YZPAaT0S9du3a; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:59484 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TK74i-0001zM-Nl; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 06:32:17 -0600 Message-ID: <506ED34F.4010501@labn.net> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 08:32:15 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andrew G. Malis" References: <109201cda2d1$b2ae14b0$180a3e10$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: WG Chairs , pwe3-chairs@tools.ietf.org, ccamp@ietf.org, karp-chairs@tools.ietf.org, manet-chairs@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] CCAMP, PWE3, MANET, KARP: 85th IETF DRAFT Agenda X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 12:32:24 -0000 and for CCAMP. Much thanks! Lou On 10/5/2012 7:58 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > Adrian, > > ACK for PWE3. > > Cheers, > Andy > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Adrian Farrel > wrote: > > [Attention Karp chairs - you are sucked in] > > stop > cease > desist! > > If you all randomly (and I say randomly advisedly!) fire in agenda > changes you > will really, erm, mess things up. > > So PWE3, in order to avoid a conflict with CCAMP have asked to move > to the same > time slot that CCAMP have asked to move their other meeting to. > > There has to be some sort of coordination, and that is what you pay > your ADs > for. > > FWIW, simply moving either CCAMP or PWE3 to Monday 15.20 doesn't > work for the > ADs because of other clashes. > > So: > 1. Wanda, please don't make any changes yet > 2. Everyone, please try to get used to the idea of a few conflicts > every so > often > 3. CCAMP, PWE3, MANET and KARP chairs please check the following > and Ack to me: > > CCAMP Thursday 9.00 -> Tuesday 17.00 (1.5 hours) > MANET (proposed) Friday 11.20 -> Wednesday 13.00 (1.5 hours) > PWE3-KARP swap Monday 9.00 <-> Monday 15.20 (2.5 hours <-> 2 hours) > > Thanks, > Adrian > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org > ] On Behalf > > Of Lou Berger > > Sent: 04 October 2012 23:59 > > To: Wanda Lo > > Cc: WG Chairs; irsg@irtf.org ; BRUNGARD, > DEBORAH A, ATTLABS > > Subject: Re: 85th IETF DRAFT Agenda > > > > Wanda, > > Looks like CCAMP is the one for conflicts this time, which > is only fair > > as we haven't had any for a while. > > > > We also have a conflict on our second session. Can we move CCAMP's > > second session to either the Monday 15:20 slot (if you don't give > it to > > PWE), or to one of the open 1.5hr slots on Tuesday or Wednesday? > Either > > way this move frees up a Thursday 2.5 hour slot. > > > > Much thanks! > > Lou > > (CCAMP co-chair) > > > > > > On 10/4/2012 6:07 PM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > > > Wanda, > > > > > > PWE3 and CCAMP being up against each other is a major conflict. > CCAMP > > > was on our list of other WGs to avoid. Could we move PWE3 to > Monday at > > > 15:20 instead? We'd be willing to take the 1/2 hour hit in order to > > > avoid the conflict, since the only other open morning slots also > have > > > bad conflicts for us. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Andy > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Wanda Lo > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > Attached is the 85th matrix grid for easy viewing. > > > > > > Wanda > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 4, 2012, at 2:39 PM, IETF Agenda wrote: > > > > > >> The DRAFT agenda is ready for viewing. Please note the cutoff > > >> date for > > >> requests to reschedule Working Group, IRTF, and BoF meetings is > > >> October 8, 2012. The final agenda will be published on October > > >> 12, 2012. > > >> > > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.html > > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.txt > > >> > > >> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/85/index.html > > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Wanda > > >> > > >> Only 30 days until Atlanta, 85th IETF! > > >> Online registration for the IETF meeting is at: > > >> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/register.html > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===========================____ > > > Wanda Lo / Project Manager____ > > > Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)____ > > > ____48377 Fremont Blvd., Ste. 117__ > > > __Fremont__, __California__ __94538____ / ____USA____ > > > T: +1.510.492.4082 > > > > F: +1.510.492.4001 > > > > _www.ietf.org _____ > > > ____ > > > /--//____/ > > > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS)____ > > > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning____ > > > www.amsl.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > From adrian@olddog.co.uk Fri Oct 5 06:25:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F38B21F8758 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 06:25:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rECwAN4rINaQ for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 06:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7BD21F8731 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 06:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q95DPEap017917 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 14:25:15 +0100 Received: from 950129200 ([31.105.151.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q95DPC21017911 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 14:25:13 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: References: <109201cda2d1$b2ae14b0$180a3e10$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <109201cda2d1$b2ae14b0$180a3e10$@olddog.co.uk> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 14:25:11 +0100 Message-ID: <110c01cda2fc$d9e36870$8daa3950$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQKBgParX0Ugg22S5ye+nWLI2MqxcpZC95sQ Content-Language: en-gb Subject: Re: [CCAMP] CCAMP, PWE3, MANET, KARP: 85th IETF DRAFT Agenda X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 13:25:18 -0000 Sorry for the spam. Just write me off as an incompetent who can't use email. Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Adrian Farrel > Sent: 05 October 2012 09:16 > To: ccamp@ietf.org; pwe3-chairs@tools.ietf.org; manet-chairs@tools.ietf.org; > karp-chairs@tools.ietf.org > Cc: 'WG Chairs' > Subject: CCAMP, PWE3, MANET, KARP: 85th IETF DRAFT Agenda > > [Attention Karp chairs - you are sucked in] > > stop > cease > desist! > > If you all randomly (and I say randomly advisedly!) fire in agenda changes you > will really, erm, mess things up. > > So PWE3, in order to avoid a conflict with CCAMP have asked to move to the > same > time slot that CCAMP have asked to move their other meeting to. > > There has to be some sort of coordination, and that is what you pay your ADs > for. > > FWIW, simply moving either CCAMP or PWE3 to Monday 15.20 doesn't work for > the > ADs because of other clashes. > > So: > 1. Wanda, please don't make any changes yet > 2. Everyone, please try to get used to the idea of a few conflicts every so > often > 3. CCAMP, PWE3, MANET and KARP chairs please check the following and Ack to > me: > > CCAMP Thursday 9.00 -> Tuesday 17.00 (1.5 hours) > MANET (proposed) Friday 11.20 -> Wednesday 13.00 (1.5 hours) > PWE3-KARP swap Monday 9.00 <-> Monday 15.20 (2.5 hours <-> 2 hours) > > Thanks, > Adrian > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf > > Of Lou Berger > > Sent: 04 October 2012 23:59 > > To: Wanda Lo > > Cc: WG Chairs; irsg@irtf.org; BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS > > Subject: Re: 85th IETF DRAFT Agenda > > > > Wanda, > > Looks like CCAMP is the one for conflicts this time, which is only fair > > as we haven't had any for a while. > > > > We also have a conflict on our second session. Can we move CCAMP's > > second session to either the Monday 15:20 slot (if you don't give it to > > PWE), or to one of the open 1.5hr slots on Tuesday or Wednesday? Either > > way this move frees up a Thursday 2.5 hour slot. > > > > Much thanks! > > Lou > > (CCAMP co-chair) > > > > > > On 10/4/2012 6:07 PM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > > > Wanda, > > > > > > PWE3 and CCAMP being up against each other is a major conflict. CCAMP > > > was on our list of other WGs to avoid. Could we move PWE3 to Monday at > > > 15:20 instead? We'd be willing to take the 1/2 hour hit in order to > > > avoid the conflict, since the only other open morning slots also have > > > bad conflicts for us. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Andy > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Wanda Lo > > > wrote: > > > > > > Attached is the 85th matrix grid for easy viewing. > > > > > > Wanda > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 4, 2012, at 2:39 PM, IETF Agenda wrote: > > > > > >> The DRAFT agenda is ready for viewing. Please note the cutoff > > >> date for > > >> requests to reschedule Working Group, IRTF, and BoF meetings is > > >> October 8, 2012. The final agenda will be published on October > > >> 12, 2012. > > >> > > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.html > > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.txt > > >> > > >> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/85/index.html > > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Wanda > > >> > > >> Only 30 days until Atlanta, 85th IETF! > > >> Online registration for the IETF meeting is at: > > >> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/register.html > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===========================____ > > > Wanda Lo / Project Manager____ > > > Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)____ > > > ____48377 Fremont Blvd., Ste. 117__ > > > __Fremont__, __California__ __94538____ / ____USA____ > > > T: +1.510.492.4082 > > > F: +1.510.492.4001 > > > _www.ietf.org _____ > > > ____ > > > /--//____/ > > > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS)____ > > > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning____ > > > www.amsl.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From sratliff@cisco.com Fri Oct 5 06:32:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D960F21F86E1; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 06:32:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.479 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.479 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.119, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BtKthmNM5IUj; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 06:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com [173.37.86.79]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA6121F85B8; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 06:32:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=11821; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1349443929; x=1350653529; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=dMlaRFMBYEEdzS4Lh13oWtrrjbvsO3gndQ4Cbrq8ziM=; b=T0riJlp8FD7mVUJiWjGtOB7+adKc2gDpaGhF+8jYyHXOcnQ9aYb9aLSn bK9Ao69v20QYSB+4r7yPLvg2EMT+lFay1+ReVrLY1ysXzPX/BPbDE8uOU dGiCmg1Prk6saPvgCRHO8fS/sC14ZgfhhqZ0HHv5tMVuTG9aoR0KWJ5fM M=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EAD3gblCtJV2a/2dsb2JhbABCA78fgQiCIAEBAQQSARQiMAwEAgEIBwoEAQEBCh0HMhQJCAEBBA4FCAESB4djC5ggoAyLPoJjgkZgA4gjiheERo0wgWmCbYIX X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,541,1344211200"; d="scan'208,217";a="128659378" Received: from rcdn-core-3.cisco.com ([173.37.93.154]) by rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com with ESMTP; 05 Oct 2012 13:32:09 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com [173.37.183.88]) by rcdn-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q95DW80R025818 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Fri, 5 Oct 2012 13:32:08 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x03.cisco.com ([169.254.6.244]) by xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com ([173.37.183.88]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 08:32:08 -0500 From: "Stan Ratliff (sratliff)" To: "Andrew G. Malis" Thread-Topic: CCAMP, PWE3, MANET, KARP: 85th IETF DRAFT Agenda Thread-Index: Ac2i0aEyORRgwZMuSJS/Gc5CCMbTEAASP9AAAANGowA= Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 13:32:08 +0000 Message-ID: <2ED1D3801ACAAB459FDB4EAC9EAD090C0F3E594B@xmb-aln-x03.cisco.com> References: <109201cda2d1$b2ae14b0$180a3e10$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [64.102.54.110] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19242.001 x-tm-as-result: No--40.644500-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2ED1D3801ACAAB459FDB4EAC9EAD090C0F3E594Bxmbalnx03ciscoc_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 06:40:53 -0700 Cc: WG Chairs , "" , "" , "" , "" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] CCAMP, PWE3, MANET, KARP: 85th IETF DRAFT Agenda X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 13:32:11 -0000 --_000_2ED1D3801ACAAB459FDB4EAC9EAD090C0F3E594Bxmbalnx03ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adrian, ACK for MANET. Regards, Stan On Oct 5, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: Adrian, ACK for PWE3. Cheers, Andy On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Adrian Farrel > wrote: [Attention Karp chairs - you are sucked in] stop cease desist! If you all randomly (and I say randomly advisedly!) fire in agenda changes = you will really, erm, mess things up. So PWE3, in order to avoid a conflict with CCAMP have asked to move to the = same time slot that CCAMP have asked to move their other meeting to. There has to be some sort of coordination, and that is what you pay your AD= s for. FWIW, simply moving either CCAMP or PWE3 to Monday 15.20 doesn't work for t= he ADs because of other clashes. So: 1. Wanda, please don't make any changes yet 2. Everyone, please try to get used to the idea of a few conflicts every so often 3. CCAMP, PWE3, MANET and KARP chairs please check the following and Ack t= o me: CCAMP Thursday 9.00 -> Tuesday 17.00 (1.5 hours) MANET (proposed) Friday 11.20 -> Wednesday 13.00 (1.5 hours) PWE3-KARP swap Monday 9.00 <-> Monday 15.20 (2.5 hours <-> 2 hours) Thanks, Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org [mailto= :wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Lou Berger > Sent: 04 October 2012 23:59 > To: Wanda Lo > Cc: WG Chairs; irsg@irtf.org; BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, = ATTLABS > Subject: Re: 85th IETF DRAFT Agenda > > Wanda, > Looks like CCAMP is the one for conflicts this time, which is only = fair > as we haven't had any for a while. > > We also have a conflict on our second session. Can we move CCAMP's > second session to either the Monday 15:20 slot (if you don't give it to > PWE), or to one of the open 1.5hr slots on Tuesday or Wednesday? Either > way this move frees up a Thursday 2.5 hour slot. > > Much thanks! > Lou > (CCAMP co-chair) > > > On 10/4/2012 6:07 PM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > > Wanda, > > > > PWE3 and CCAMP being up against each other is a major conflict. CCAMP > > was on our list of other WGs to avoid. Could we move PWE3 to Monday at > > 15:20 instead? We'd be willing to take the 1/2 hour hit in order to > > avoid the conflict, since the only other open morning slots also have > > bad conflicts for us. > > > > Thanks, > > Andy > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Wanda Lo > > >> wrote: > > > > Attached is the 85th matrix grid for easy viewing. > > > > Wanda > > > > > > > > On Oct 4, 2012, at 2:39 PM, IETF Agenda wrote: > > > >> The DRAFT agenda is ready for viewing. Please note the cutoff > >> date for > >> requests to reschedule Working Group, IRTF, and BoF meetings is > >> October 8, 2012. The final agenda will be published on October > >> 12, 2012. > >> > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.html > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.txt > >> > >> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/85/index.html > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Wanda > >> > >> Only 30 days until Atlanta, 85th IETF! > >> Online registration for the IETF meeting is at: > >> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/register.html > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D____ > > Wanda Lo / Project Manager____ > > Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)____ > > ____48377 Fremont Blvd., Ste. 117__ > > __Fremont__, __California__ __94538____ / ____USA____ > > T: +1.510.492.4082 > > F: +1.510.492.4001 > > _www.ietf.org _____ > > ____ > > /--//____/ > > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS)____ > > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning____ > > www.amsl.com > > > > > > > > > > > > --_000_2ED1D3801ACAAB459FDB4EAC9EAD090C0F3E594Bxmbalnx03ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: <6A2B1870EE07084F8ED105CA48E98B84@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adrian, 

ACK for MANET. 

Regards,
Stan

On Oct 5, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote:

Adrian,

ACK for PWE3.

Cheers,
Andy

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.= co.uk> wrote:
[Attention Karp chairs - you are sucked in]

stop
cease
desist!

If you all randomly (and I say randomly advisedly!) fire in agenda changes = you
will really, erm, mess things up.

So PWE3, in order to avoid a conflict with CCAMP have asked to move to the = same
time slot that CCAMP have asked to move their other meeting to.

There has to be some sort of coordination, and that is what you pay your AD= s
for.

FWIW, simply moving either CCAMP or PWE3 to Monday 15.20 doesn't work for t= he
ADs because of other clashes.

So:
1. Wanda, please don't make any changes yet
2. Everyone, please try to get used to the idea of a few conflicts every so=
often
3.  CCAMP, PWE3, MANET and KARP chairs please check the following and = Ack to me:

CCAMP Thursday 9.00 -> Tuesday 17.00 (1.5 hours)
MANET (proposed) Friday 11.20 -> Wednesday 13.00 (1.5 hours)
PWE3-KARP swap Monday 9.00 <-> Monday 15.20 (2.5 hours <-> 2 ho= urs)

Thanks,
Adrian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wgchairs-bounces@ie= tf.org [mailto:wgchairs-bo= unces@ietf.org] On Behalf
> Of Lou Berger
> Sent: 04 October 2012 23:59
> To: Wanda Lo
> Cc: WG Chairs; irsg@irtf.org; BRU= NGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS
> Subject: Re: 85th IETF DRAFT Agenda
>
> Wanda,
>       Looks like CCAMP is the one for conflicts this ti= me, which is only fair
> as we haven't had any for a while.
>
> We also have a conflict on our second session.  Can we move CCAMP= 's
> second session to either the Monday 15:20 slot (if you don't give it t= o
> PWE), or to one of the open 1.5hr slots on Tuesday or Wednesday?  = ;Either
> way this move frees up a Thursday 2.5 hour slot.
>
> Much thanks!
> Lou
> (CCAMP co-chair)
>
>
> On 10/4/2012 6:07 PM, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
> > Wanda,
> >
> > PWE3 and CCAMP being up against each other is a major conflict. C= CAMP
> > was on our list of other WGs to avoid. Could we move PWE3 to Mond= ay at
> > 15:20 instead? We'd be willing to take the 1/2 hour hit in order = to
> > avoid the conflict, since the only other open morning slots also = have
> > bad conflicts for us.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Andy
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Wanda Lo <wlo@amsl.com
> > <mailto:wlo@amsl.com>&g= t; wrote:
> >
> >     Attached is the 85th matrix grid for easy viewing.<= br> > >
> >     Wanda
> >
> >
> >
> >     On Oct 4, 2012, at 2:39 PM, IETF Agenda wrote:
> >
> >>     The DRAFT agenda is ready for viewing.  Pl= ease note the cutoff
> >>     date for
> >>     requests to reschedule Working Group, IRTF, and= BoF meetings is
> >>     October 8, 2012.  The final agenda will be= published on October
> >>     12, 2012.
> >>
> >>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.html
> >>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.txt
> >>
> >>     http://www.ietf.org/meeting/85/index.html
> >>
> >>
> >>     Thanks,
> >>     Wanda
> >>
> >>     Only 30 days until Atlanta, 85th IETF!
> >>     Online registration for the IETF meeting is at:=
> >>     http://www.ietf.org/meeting/register.html
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D____
> >     Wanda Lo / Project Manager____
> >     Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)____
> >     ____48377 Fremont Blvd., Ste. 117__
> >     __Fremont__, __California__ __94538____ / ____USA__= __
> >     T: +1.510.492.4082 <tel:%2B1.510.492.4082>
> >     F: +1.510.492.4001 <tel:%2B1.510.492.4001>
> >     _www.ietf.org <ht= tp://www.ietf.org/>_____
> >      ____
> >     /--//____/
> >     Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS)__= __
> >     Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning____ > >     = www.amsl.com <htt= p://www.amsl.com/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >



--_000_2ED1D3801ACAAB459FDB4EAC9EAD090C0F3E594Bxmbalnx03ciscoc_-- From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Fri Oct 5 07:13:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA37321F8792; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 07:13:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.472 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.472 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.127, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YpT3FWLgRKsN; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 07:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7590721F8787; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 07:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121005141309.12235.55464.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 07:13:09 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Last Call: (Traffic Engineering Database Management Information Base in support of MPLS-TE/GMPLS) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 14:13:10 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG (ccamp) to consider the following document: - 'Traffic Engineering Database Management Information Base in support of MPLS-TE/GMPLS' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2012-10-19. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This memo defines the Management Information Base (MIB) objects in order to manage traffic engineering database (TED) information with extension in support of Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) with traffic engineering (TE) as well as Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) for use with network management protocols. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. 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Malis" , pwe3-chairs@tools.ietf.org, ccamp@ietf.org, karp-chairs@tools.ietf.org, manet-chairs@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] CCAMP, PWE3, MANET, KARP: 85th IETF DRAFT Agenda X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 14:34:49 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_427879EA-F260-44F4-9BEE-4008EB0C5C61 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Adrian, ACK for KARP. Yours, Brian On Oct 5, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Stan Ratliff (sratliff) wrote: > Adrian,=20 >=20 > ACK for MANET.=20 >=20 > Regards, > Stan >=20 > On Oct 5, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: >=20 >> Adrian, >>=20 >> ACK for PWE3. >>=20 >> Cheers, >> Andy >>=20 >> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Adrian Farrel = wrote: >> [Attention Karp chairs - you are sucked in] >>=20 >> stop >> cease >> desist! >>=20 >> If you all randomly (and I say randomly advisedly!) fire in agenda = changes you >> will really, erm, mess things up. >>=20 >> So PWE3, in order to avoid a conflict with CCAMP have asked to move = to the same >> time slot that CCAMP have asked to move their other meeting to. >>=20 >> There has to be some sort of coordination, and that is what you pay = your ADs >> for. >>=20 >> FWIW, simply moving either CCAMP or PWE3 to Monday 15.20 doesn't work = for the >> ADs because of other clashes. >>=20 >> So: >> 1. Wanda, please don't make any changes yet >> 2. Everyone, please try to get used to the idea of a few conflicts = every so >> often >> 3. CCAMP, PWE3, MANET and KARP chairs please check the following and = Ack to me: >>=20 >> CCAMP Thursday 9.00 -> Tuesday 17.00 (1.5 hours) >> MANET (proposed) Friday 11.20 -> Wednesday 13.00 (1.5 hours) >> PWE3-KARP swap Monday 9.00 <-> Monday 15.20 (2.5 hours <-> 2 hours) >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Adrian >>=20 >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf >> > Of Lou Berger >> > Sent: 04 October 2012 23:59 >> > To: Wanda Lo >> > Cc: WG Chairs; irsg@irtf.org; BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS >> > Subject: Re: 85th IETF DRAFT Agenda >> > >> > Wanda, >> > Looks like CCAMP is the one for conflicts this time, which is = only fair >> > as we haven't had any for a while. >> > >> > We also have a conflict on our second session. Can we move CCAMP's >> > second session to either the Monday 15:20 slot (if you don't give = it to >> > PWE), or to one of the open 1.5hr slots on Tuesday or Wednesday? = Either >> > way this move frees up a Thursday 2.5 hour slot. >> > >> > Much thanks! >> > Lou >> > (CCAMP co-chair) >> > >> > >> > On 10/4/2012 6:07 PM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: >> > > Wanda, >> > > >> > > PWE3 and CCAMP being up against each other is a major conflict. = CCAMP >> > > was on our list of other WGs to avoid. Could we move PWE3 to = Monday at >> > > 15:20 instead? We'd be willing to take the 1/2 hour hit in order = to >> > > avoid the conflict, since the only other open morning slots also = have >> > > bad conflicts for us. >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Andy >> > > >> > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Wanda Lo > > > > wrote: >> > > >> > > Attached is the 85th matrix grid for easy viewing. >> > > >> > > Wanda >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Oct 4, 2012, at 2:39 PM, IETF Agenda wrote: >> > > >> > >> The DRAFT agenda is ready for viewing. Please note the = cutoff >> > >> date for >> > >> requests to reschedule Working Group, IRTF, and BoF meetings = is >> > >> October 8, 2012. The final agenda will be published on = October >> > >> 12, 2012. >> > >> >> > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.html >> > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.txt >> > >> >> > >> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/85/index.html >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Thanks, >> > >> Wanda >> > >> >> > >> Only 30 days until Atlanta, 85th IETF! >> > >> Online registration for the IETF meeting is at: >> > >> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/register.html >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D____ >> > > Wanda Lo / Project Manager____ >> > > Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)____ >> > > ____48377 Fremont Blvd., Ste. 117__ >> > > __Fremont__, __California__ __94538____ / ____USA____ >> > > T: +1.510.492.4082 >> > > F: +1.510.492.4001 >> > > _www.ietf.org _____ >> > > ____ >> > > /--//____/ >> > > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS)____ >> > > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning____ >> > > www.amsl.com >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>=20 >>=20 >=20 --=20 Brian Weis Security Standards and Technology, SRG, Cisco Systems Telephone: +1 408 526 4796 Email: bew@cisco.com --Apple-Mail=_427879EA-F260-44F4-9BEE-4008EB0C5C61 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Adrian, 

ACK for MANET. 

Regards,
Stan

On Oct 5, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote:

Adrian,

ACK for PWE3.

Cheers,
Andy

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Adrian Farrel = <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
[Attention Karp chairs - you are sucked in]

stop
cease
desist!

If you all randomly (and I say randomly advisedly!) fire in agenda = changes you
will really, erm, mess things up.

So PWE3, in order to avoid a conflict with CCAMP have asked to move to = the same
time slot that CCAMP have asked to move their other meeting to.

There has to be some sort of coordination, and that is what you pay your = ADs
for.

FWIW, simply moving either CCAMP or PWE3 to Monday 15.20 doesn't work = for the
ADs because of other clashes.

So:
1. Wanda, please don't make any changes yet
2. Everyone, please try to get used to the idea of a few conflicts every = so
often
3.  CCAMP, PWE3, MANET and KARP chairs please check the following = and Ack to me:

CCAMP Thursday 9.00 -> Tuesday 17.00 (1.5 hours)
MANET (proposed) Friday 11.20 -> Wednesday 13.00 (1.5 hours)
PWE3-KARP swap Monday 9.00 <-> Monday 15.20 (2.5 hours <-> 2 = hours)

Thanks,
Adrian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf
> Of Lou Berger
> Sent: 04 October 2012 23:59
> To: Wanda Lo
> Cc: WG Chairs; irsg@irtf.org; = BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS
> Subject: Re: 85th IETF DRAFT Agenda
>
> Wanda,
>       Looks like CCAMP is the one for conflicts this = time, which is only fair
> as we haven't had any for a while.
>
> We also have a conflict on our second session.  Can we move = CCAMP's
> second session to either the Monday 15:20 slot (if you don't give = it to
> PWE), or to one of the open 1.5hr slots on Tuesday or Wednesday? =  Either
> way this move frees up a Thursday 2.5 hour slot.
>
> Much thanks!
> Lou
> (CCAMP co-chair)
>
>
> On 10/4/2012 6:07 PM, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
> > Wanda,
> >
> > PWE3 and CCAMP being up against each other is a major = conflict. CCAMP
> > was on our list of other WGs to avoid. Could we move PWE3 to = Monday at
> > 15:20 instead? We'd be willing to take the 1/2 hour hit in = order to
> > avoid the conflict, since the only other open morning slots = also have
> > bad conflicts for us.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Andy
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Wanda Lo <wlo@amsl.com
> > <mailto:wlo@amsl.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Attached is the 85th matrix grid for easy = viewing.
> >
> >     Wanda
> >
> >
> >
> >     On Oct 4, 2012, at 2:39 PM, IETF Agenda = wrote:
> >
> >>     The DRAFT agenda is ready for viewing. =  Please note the cutoff
> >>     date for
> >>     requests to reschedule Working Group, IRTF, = and BoF meetings is
> >>     October 8, 2012.  The final agenda will = be published on October
> >>     12, 2012.
> >>
> >>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.html
> >>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.txt
> >>
> >>     http://www.ietf.org/meeting/85/index.html
> >>
> >>
> >>     Thanks,
> >>     Wanda
> >>
> >>     Only 30 days until Atlanta, 85th IETF!
> >>     Online registration for the IETF meeting is = at:
> >>     http://www.ietf.org/meeting/register.html
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D____
> >     Wanda Lo / Project Manager____
> >     Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)____
> >     ____48377 Fremont Blvd., Ste. 117__
> >     __Fremont__, __California__ __94538____ / = ____USA____
> >     T: +1.510.492.4082 = <tel:%2B1.510.492.4082>
> >     F: +1.510.492.4001 = <tel:%2B1.510.492.4001>
> >     _www.ietf.org <http://www.ietf.org/>_____
> >      ____
> >     /--//____/
> >     Managed by Association Management Solutions = (AMS)____
> >     Forum Management, Meeting and Event = Planning____
> >     www.amsl.com <http://www.amsl.com/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >




bew@cisco.com






= --Apple-Mail=_427879EA-F260-44F4-9BEE-4008EB0C5C61-- From rrao@infinera.com Fri Oct 5 16:14:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5A421F85B8 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 16:14:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1mtgvY-Izvo1 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 16:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sv-casht-prod1.infinera.com (sv-casht-prod1.infinera.com [8.4.225.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E2621F85A7 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 16:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SV-EXDB-PROD1.infinera.com ([fe80::dc68:4e20:6002:a8f9]) by sv-casht-prod1.infinera.com ([10.100.97.218]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 16:14:40 -0700 From: Rajan Rao To: Lou Berger , CCAMP Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents Thread-Index: AQHNoKqUhxksxzpg70KuueMT3/c0v5erVsoA Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 23:14:39 +0000 Message-ID: <650AA355E323C34D9D4AAEED952E053D3FA9BFBB@SV-EXDB-PROD1.infinera.com> References: <506AFA9B.2000508@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <506AFA9B.2000508@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.100.96.93] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 23:14:41 -0000 1. yes 2. yes Thanks Rajan -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of L= ou Berger Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:31 AM To: CCAMP Subject: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents CCAMP, The WG has several WSON-related drafts including: 1. draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode 2. draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te 3. draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode 4. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf =09 5. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling These drafts are currently identified as being on the Standards Track. The= WG typically requests Standards Track publication of documents that fill/f= ix a clear protocol function and/or have strong WG support. Given the scope= of this work as well as the time the drafts have been active in the WG, we= 'd like to solicit the WG's input on the publication track to be requested. Once the WG reaches consensus on these drafts (as indicated by a *future* WG last call), Standards Track publication can be requested or the= se drafts could also be published via a non-Standards Track, see section 4.= 2 of RFC2026 for all options. Please let us know (preferably by responding on the WG list) if you: a. Support targeting all of these documents for Standards Track publication? [yes/no] b. If no, support targeting some of these documents for Standards Track publication? [1, yes/no 2, yes/no 3, yes/no 4, yes/no 5, yes/no] c. If no to any of the above, which status do you think appropriate? [Experimental or Informational] d. Finally, we are most interested in hearing from anyone who has, or is planning an implementation based on the WG drafts. We understand that some may not want this information published, so please let any of the chairs and/or ADs know (Lou, Deborah, Adrian or Stewart), and they will publish the information without any personal or company identification. Keep in mind that this mail is *not* starting a WG last call on any of the = documents identified above. We'd like input on intended publication status= prior to any last call discussion. Lou and Deborah _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From lberger@labn.net Sat Oct 6 06:29:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5BA21F858F for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 06:29:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.035 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.035 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.126, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yQFPwr+Z36Bj for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 06:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy11-pub.bluehost.com (unknown [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B87E821F857E for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 06:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13526 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2012 13:29:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy11.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Oct 2012 13:29:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=XLIh5x1N421ItX26IJHHexU0uKV4Q8gah8wJF/mMYxo=; b=UZO7VIRwmPDTSPfzg7ezjPBnUjBz5gtUmcfAcI8wzPY2SsqG65MJi+TkSJ9pFy5eOhBvLo3tPqoyzrfyPoGB2Kt7Ng0tIKy1fDIotz9vj+gME2SD0TsUmRLKKOaKBIgE; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:40705 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TKURp-0000uq-GN; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 07:29:41 -0600 Message-ID: <50703245.3040808@labn.net> Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2012 09:29:41 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rajan Rao References: <506AFA9B.2000508@labn.net> <650AA355E323C34D9D4AAEED952E053D3FA9BFBB@SV-EXDB-PROD1.infinera.com> In-Reply-To: <650AA355E323C34D9D4AAEED952E053D3FA9BFBB@SV-EXDB-PROD1.infinera.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2012 13:29:46 -0000 Rajan, was this in response to > b. If no, support targeting some of these documents for Standards > Track publication? does this mean no on > 3, yes/no > 4, yes/no > 5, yes/no] ? Lou PS As a reminder to all, we'd really like to hear about implementation status: > d. Finally, we are most interested in hearing from anyone who has, > or is planning an implementation based on the WG drafts. We > understand that some may not want this information published, > so please let any of the chairs and/or ADs know (Lou, > Deborah, Adrian or Stewart), and they will publish the > information without any personal or company identification. On 10/5/2012 7:14 PM, Rajan Rao wrote: > 1. yes > 2. yes > > Thanks > Rajan > > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:31 AM > To: CCAMP > Subject: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents > > CCAMP, > > The WG has several WSON-related drafts including: > 1. draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode > 2. draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te > 3. draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode > 4. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf > 5. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling > > These drafts are currently identified as being on the Standards Track. The WG typically requests Standards Track publication of documents that fill/fix a clear protocol function and/or have strong WG support. Given the scope of this work as well as the time the drafts have been active in the WG, we'd like to solicit the WG's input on the publication track to be requested. > > Once the WG reaches consensus on these drafts (as indicated by a > *future* WG last call), Standards Track publication can be requested or these drafts could also be published via a non-Standards Track, see section 4.2 of RFC2026 for all options. > > Please let us know (preferably by responding on the WG list) if you: > > a. Support targeting all of these documents for Standards Track > publication? > [yes/no] > > b. If no, support targeting some of these documents for Standards > Track publication? > [1, yes/no > 2, yes/no > 3, yes/no > 4, yes/no > 5, yes/no] > > c. If no to any of the above, which status do you think appropriate? > [Experimental or Informational] > > d. Finally, we are most interested in hearing from anyone who has, > or is planning an implementation based on the WG drafts. We > understand that some may not want this information published, > so please let any of the chairs and/or ADs know (Lou, > Deborah, Adrian or Stewart), and they will publish the > information without any personal or company identification. > > Keep in mind that this mail is *not* starting a WG last call on any of the documents identified above. We'd like input on intended publication status prior to any last call discussion. > > Lou and Deborah > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sun Oct 7 11:23:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6D621F8718; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:23:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.504 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.504 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.095, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RqZ+SibrdLJE; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3145421F8715; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:23:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121007182354.19033.17145.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:23:54 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:23:55 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Work= ing Group of the IETF. Title : Configuration of Pro-Active Operations, Administration, = and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for MPLS-based Transport Networks using RSV= P-TE Author(s) : Elisa Bellagamba Loa Andersson Pontus Skoldstrom Dave Ward Attila Takacs Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt Pages : 22 Date : 2012-10-07 Abstract: This specification describes the configuration of pro-active MPLS-TP Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for a given LSP using a set of TLVs that are carried by the RSVP-TE protocol. This document is a product of a joint Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) / International Telecommunication Union Telecommunication Standardization Sector (ITU-T) effort to include an MPLS Transport Profile within the IETF MPLS and PWE3 architectures to support the capabilities and functionalities of a packet transport network. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext= -09 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From huawei.danli@huawei.com Sun Oct 7 17:28:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0798521F858F for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:28:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.788 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.788 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, CN_BODY_35=0.339, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_ENC_GB2312=1.345] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OG4nvFdxDGEd for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:57:41 -0000 support option a. cheers G On Oct 2, 2012, at 16:30 , Lou Berger wrote: > CCAMP, >=20 > The WG has several WSON-related drafts including: > 1. draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode > 2. draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te > 3. draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode > 4. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf =09 > 5. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling >=20 > These drafts are currently identified as being on the Standards > Track. The WG typically requests Standards Track publication of > documents that fill/fix a clear protocol function and/or have > strong WG support. Given the scope of this work as well as the > time the drafts have been active in the WG, we'd like to solicit > the WG's input on the publication track to be requested. >=20 > Once the WG reaches consensus on these drafts (as indicated by a > *future* WG last call), Standards Track publication can be > requested or these drafts could also be published via a > non-Standards Track, see section 4.2 of RFC2026 for all options. >=20 > Please let us know (preferably by responding on the WG list) if you: >=20 > a. Support targeting all of these documents for Standards Track > publication? > [yes/no] >=20 > b. If no, support targeting some of these documents for Standards > Track publication? > [1, yes/no > 2, yes/no > 3, yes/no > 4, yes/no > 5, yes/no] >=20 > c. If no to any of the above, which status do you think appropriate? > [Experimental or Informational] >=20 > d. Finally, we are most interested in hearing from anyone who has, > or is planning an implementation based on the WG drafts. We > understand that some may not want this information published, > so please let any of the chairs and/or ADs know (Lou, > Deborah, Adrian or Stewart), and they will publish the > information without any personal or company identification. >=20 > Keep in mind that this mail is *not* starting a WG last call on > any of the documents identified above. We'd like input on > intended publication status prior to any last call discussion. >=20 > Lou and Deborah > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com Mon Oct 8 08:37:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A06221F8808 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:37:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.992 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.992 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.257, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JLiepRVPwxTj for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw7.ericsson.se (mailgw7.ericsson.se [193.180.251.48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EAC021F8804 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:37:29 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb30-b7f7d6d0000042ea-d4-5072f3376e24 Received: from esessmw0184.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw7.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 47.28.17130.733F2705; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:37:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSHC007.ericsson.se (153.88.183.39) by esessmw0184.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.81) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.279.1; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:37:28 +0200 Received: from ESESSMB301.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.169]) by ESESSHC007.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.39]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:37:27 +0200 From: Daniele Ceccarelli To: CCAMP Thread-Topic: CCAMP Agenda Requests for IETF 85 Thread-Index: Ac1YM6W3D0SnceNcSmO52021LA/slxNNdiMw Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:37:26 +0000 Message-ID: <4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE48F9A8@ESESSMB301.ericsson.se> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.18] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrJLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvra7F56IAg6WPeCyezLnB4sDosWTJ T6YAxigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujGVnHrEU7OSo2DL9LUsD40+2LkZODgkBE4nuFT2sELaYxIV7 64HiXBxCAqcYJb5t+MAMkhAS2MEoseF9IIS9mFFi82alLkYODjYBK4knh3xAwiICUhI3991i B7GFBbQk/q3bygwR15f4PWc3K4RtJHGhZyVYDYuAisS241PBangFPCUW/JzGBDE+XGL2+oWM IDanQITE1f2NLCA2o4CsxITdi8DizALiEreezGeCuFlAYsme88wQtqjEy8f/oH5RlPj4ah9U vY7Egt2f2CBsbYllC19D7RWUODnzCQvEXh2JY38amCcwis9CsmIWkvZZSNpnIWlfwMiyilE4 NzEzJ73cXC+1KDO5uDg/T684dRMjMHoObvltsINx032xQ4zSHCxK4rx6qvv9hQTSE0tSs1NT C1KL4otKc1KLDzEycXBKNTBqBM/VjnE5xJD8X1HWoW39a6G3LbPur7VydlBlm76Z6Y6mqQfr MyVn+em5VxZwn+UV15Sxvf3m+3ataZvNPsX/kF9/dFNdouXCYCkh2b7bh+69uybId3rXo38b j9ra7WH/Ert2+mrbI0cybk2SVnnDflP4vpKdxuzi2y4Hg2sWcZwQY2Df6laixFKckWioxVxU nAgAeBLFOWwCAAA= Subject: [CCAMP] CCAMP Agenda Requests for IETF 85 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:37:30 -0000 Hi CCAMP, It's time for IETF 85 time slot requests: - Agenda Requests - Please send Dan and me (CC'ing the chairs) your requests for time on the wo= rking group agenda. Please let us have your requests by Friday, October 19th. For each slot please state: + Presenter + Draft title (e.g. Traffic Engineering Extensions to OSPF for Generalized= MPLS (GMPLS)Control of Evolving G.709 OTN Networks) + Draft URL on tools server (e.g. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cca= mp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3-03) + Desired time slot=20 - Presentations - If you are presenting slides please make sure you send them to us (CC'ing the chairs) by Friday, November 2nd.=20 - Key cut-off dates - These are located at: http://www.ietf.org/meeting/cutoff-dates-2012.html#IETF85 2012-10-15 (Monday): Internet Draft Cut-off for initial document (-00) 2012-10-22 (Monday): Internet Draft final submission (>00) - Draft Agenda - (subject to change - final agenda to be posted on 2012-10-= 12) http://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.txt=20 Br,=20 Dan & Daniele From lberger@labn.net Mon Oct 8 09:26:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68AEA21F85A1 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:26:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.038 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.038 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.123, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yb2chRg02+FF for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (oproxy9.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B8D1C21F859A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2713 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2012 16:26:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Oct 2012 16:26:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=YngzJtFq7YiJzow6+C7ER+CwfjJry0H+0CpivPog/iU=; b=np9Bkc49i+xFn8nozsrTPucdSPAZia5nIGTi5jN3tBr+9Cf8Xcg119DbDNsjEzAIcZ57h3CEOy93h+cl1C1373NfTPJcH3Xol7wV4sskLYi3vB3tH5BO7HXcIh+hm60m; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:45998 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TLGAD-0004Je-C9; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 10:26:41 -0600 Message-ID: <5072FEC1.7020108@labn.net> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:26:41 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org" References: <20121007182354.19033.17145.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20121007182354.19033.17145.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:26:50 -0000 Authors, I see you still have some default values called out as TBD. Can you please send your proposed defaults to the WG so that we can ensure consensus on these? (Obviously, these need to be filled in before any publication request.) Also, I see you removed the units from the Refresh Timer field. Was this intentional? I think some unit of measure is needed. Thanks, Lou On 10/7/2012 2:23 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : Configuration of Pro-Active Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for MPLS-based Transport Networks using RSVP-TE > Author(s) : Elisa Bellagamba > Loa Andersson > Pontus Skoldstrom > Dave Ward > Attila Takacs > Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt > Pages : 22 > Date : 2012-10-07 > > Abstract: > This specification describes the configuration of pro-active MPLS-TP > Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for a > given LSP using a set of TLVs that are carried by the RSVP-TE > protocol. > > This document is a product of a joint Internet Engineering Task Force > (IETF) / International Telecommunication Union Telecommunication > Standardization Sector (ITU-T) effort to include an MPLS Transport > Profile within the IETF MPLS and PWE3 architectures to support the > capabilities and functionalities of a packet transport network. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09 > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > From IBryskin@advaoptical.com Mon Oct 8 12:41:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235B611E80A3 for ; 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Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:41:22 -0400 From: Igor Bryskin To: Lou Berger , "zhangfatai@huawei.com" , "zhangguoying@mail.ritt.com.cn" , "sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.it" , "daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com" , "kpithewan@infinera.com" , "yi.lin@huawei.com" , "xuyunbin@mail.ritt.com.cn" , "pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.it" , "diego.caviglia@ericsson.com" , "rrao@infinera.com" , "jdrake@juniper.net" Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 Thread-Index: AQHNnYSDbV+8lMWJukKNMRPGCRBcoZev3k2A Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:41:20 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5065B236.9080009@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <5065B236.9080009@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.21.1.81] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-10-08_03:2012-10-08, 2012-10-08, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 19:41:36 -0000 Hi, =20 I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft Igor Bryskin, ADVA Optical -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 10:21 AM To: zhangfatai@huawei.com; zhangguoying@mail.ritt.com.cn; sergio.belotti@al= catel-lucent.it; daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; kpithewan@infinera.com; y= i.lin@huawei.com; xuyunbin@mail.ritt.com.cn; pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel= -lucent.it; diego.caviglia@ericsson.com; rrao@infinera.com; jdrake@juniper.= net; Igor Bryskin Cc: CCAMP Subject: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&document_= search=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g= 709v3? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the abo= ve by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware o= f any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until= a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOT= E: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co= ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which= encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an = IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or = discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please s= ee the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wik= i/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your respons= e. From IBryskin@advaoptical.com Mon Oct 8 12:42:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99BF1F0429 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:42:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8I-OXw-O8ncV for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.advaoptical.com (mail.advaoptical.com [91.217.199.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129EE1F042A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MUC-SRV-MAIL10.advaoptical.com (muc-srv-mail10.advaoptical.com [172.20.1.59]) by muc-vsrv-fsmail.advaoptical.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q98JfiHv021146 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:41:44 +0200 Received: from ATL-SRV-MAIL10.atl.advaoptical.com (172.16.5.39) by MUC-SRV-MAIL10.advaoptical.com (172.20.1.44) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.83.0; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:41:44 +0200 Received: from ATL-SRV-MAIL10.atl.advaoptical.com ([fe80::c4d6:b136:bc16:77ae]) by atl-srv-mail10.atl.advaoptical.com ([fe80::c4d6:b136:bc16:77ae%17]) with mapi id 14.03.0083.000; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:41:41 -0400 From: Igor Bryskin To: Lou Berger , "sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.com" , "pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com" , "daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com" , "diego.caviglia@ericsson.com" , "zhangfatai@huawei.com" , "danli@huawei.com" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model Thread-Index: AQHNnYSENJicwgN7OU+hbPe76EEwhZev3s/g Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:41:40 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5065B22D.5050808@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <5065B22D.5050808@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.21.1.81] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-10-08_03:2012-10-08, 2012-10-08, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 19:42:12 -0000 Hi, =20 I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft Igor Bryskin, ADVA Optical -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of L= ou Berger Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 10:20 AM To: sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.com; pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucen= t.com; daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; diego.caviglia@ericsson.com; zhangf= atai@huawei.com; danli@huawei.com Cc: CCAMP Subject: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-mod= el? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the abo= ve by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware o= f any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until= a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOT= E: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co= ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which= encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an = IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or = discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please s= ee the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wik= i/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your respons= e. _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From IBryskin@advaoptical.com Mon Oct 8 12:42:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C04311E80BA for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:42:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bEndK03dui64 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.advaoptical.com (mail.advaoptical.com [91.217.199.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DAB11E80B8 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MUC-SRV-MAIL10B.advaoptical.com ([172.20.1.60]) by muc-vsrv-fsmail.advaoptical.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q98Jg1MJ021189 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:42:01 +0200 Received: from ATL-SRV-MAIL10.atl.advaoptical.com (172.16.5.39) by MUC-SRV-MAIL10B.advaoptical.com (172.20.1.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.83.0; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:42:01 +0200 Received: from ATL-SRV-MAIL10.atl.advaoptical.com ([fe80::c4d6:b136:bc16:77ae]) by atl-srv-mail10.atl.advaoptical.com ([fe80::c4d6:b136:bc16:77ae%17]) with mapi id 14.03.0083.000; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:41:59 -0400 From: Igor Bryskin To: Lou Berger , "zhangfatai@huawei.com" , "huawei.danli@huawei.com" , "lihan@chinamobile.com" , "sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.it" , "daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com" , "hanjianrui@huawei.com" , "malcolm.betts@huawei.com" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework Thread-Index: AQHNnYSEo6BivsjO/ky8pYd5W4SYNJev3uEQ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:41:58 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5065B228.1070701@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <5065B228.1070701@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.21.1.81] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-10-08_03:2012-10-08, 2012-10-08, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 19:42:17 -0000 Hi, =20 I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft Igor Bryskin, ADVA Optical -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of L= ou Berger Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 10:20 AM To: zhangfatai@huawei.com; huawei.danli@huawei.com; lihan@chinamobile.com; = sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.it; daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; hanjianr= ui@huawei.com; malcolm.betts@huawei.com Cc: CCAMP Subject: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framew= ork? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the abo= ve by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware o= f any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until= a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOT= E: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co= ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which= encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an = IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or = discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please s= ee the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wik= i/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your respons= e. _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From IBryskin@advaoptical.com Mon Oct 8 12:42:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D162311E80CC for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:42:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rIy3diNHtx7P for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.advaoptical.com (mail.advaoptical.com [91.217.199.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D7611E8091 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MUC-SRV-MAIL10B.advaoptical.com ([172.20.1.60]) by muc-vsrv-fsmail.advaoptical.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q98JgJJq022593 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:42:19 +0200 Received: from MUC-SRV-MBX2.advaoptical.com (172.20.1.96) by MUC-SRV-MAIL10B.advaoptical.com (172.20.1.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.83.0; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:42:19 +0200 Received: from ATL-SRV-MAIL10.atl.advaoptical.com (172.16.5.39) by MUC-SRV-MBX2.advaoptical.com (172.20.1.96) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.516.19; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:42:18 +0200 Received: from ATL-SRV-MAIL10.atl.advaoptical.com ([fe80::c4d6:b136:bc16:77ae]) by atl-srv-mail10.atl.advaoptical.com ([fe80::c4d6:b136:bc16:77ae%17]) with mapi id 14.03.0083.000; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:42:16 -0400 From: Igor Bryskin To: Lou Berger , "daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com" , "diego.caviglia@ericsson.com" , "zhangfatai@huawei.com" , "danli@huawei.com" , "sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.com" , "pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com" , "rrao@infinera.com" , "kpithewan@infinera.com" , "jdrake@juniper.net" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 Thread-Index: AQHNnYSE/EEW1iu6MECK6h4l3ht1nJev3vmA Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:42:15 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5065B232.1020908@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <5065B232.1020908@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.21.1.81] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-10-08_03:2012-10-08, 2012-10-08, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 19:42:25 -0000 Hi, =20 I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft Igor Bryskin, ADVA Optical -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of L= ou Berger Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 10:21 AM To: daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; diego.caviglia@ericsson.com; zhangfata= i@huawei.com; danli@huawei.com; sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.com; pietro_v= ittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com; rrao@infinera.com; kpithewan@infinera.co= m; jdrake@juniper.net Cc: CCAMP Subject: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&document_= search=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3= ? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the abo= ve by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware o= f any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until= a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOT= E: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co= ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which= encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an = IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or = discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please s= ee the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wik= i/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your respons= e. _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From lberger@labn.net Mon Oct 8 13:47:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADEC11E80F7 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 13:47:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.047 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.047 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.114, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Cs-e7-aGjL2P for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 13:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a6]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D3FD11E80DE for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 13:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22824 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2012 20:47:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Oct 2012 20:47:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=kCZQpLUQiTquZ9yZipvCquEjldGRsWBtTJBfuM5iKU0=; b=oo7iklZkO4o2BewVdiRq9lB5IVisabrkGslvBsCLlo789VKVKOqgIulpBW8r/ZZiao4gF2yCeyWWC12XmqbyXGQk2TBPPqv0k3jRC4ZHTv/Fha3Gduqz7e5JxvDIVrUx; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:41484 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TLKEn-0003R7-1V for ccamp@ietf.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:47:41 -0600 Message-ID: <50733BED.8090304@labn.net> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:47:41 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CCAMP X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Subject: [CCAMP] WG Last Call: g709-framework, g709-info-model, ospf-g709v3, signaling-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:47:49 -0000 This mail begins a two week working group last call on: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-09 (Informational) http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-04 (Informational) http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3-03 (Standards Track) http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-04 (Standards Track) This working group last call ends on October 22. Comments should be sent to the CCAMP mailing list. Please remember to include the technical basis for any comments. Please note that we're still missing a few IPR statements, and look for these to come in during the LC period. Any forthcoming publication request will be delayed by late IPR statements/disclosures. 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This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Work= ing Group of the IETF. Title : ASON Routing for OSPFv2 Protocols Author(s) : Andrew G. Malis Acee Lindem Dimitri Papadimitriou Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-rfc5787bis-06.txt Pages : 29 Date : 2012-10-09 Abstract: The ITU-T has defined an architecture and requirements for operating an Automatically Switched Optical Network (ASON). The Generalized Multiprotocol Label Switching (GMPLS) protocol suite is designed to provide a control plane for a range of network technologies including optical networks such as time division multiplexing (TDM) networks including SONET/SDH and Optical Transport Networks (OTNs), and lambda switching optical networks. The requirements for GMPLS routing to satisfy the requirements of ASON routing, and an evaluation of existing GMPLS routing protocols are provided in other documents. This document defines extensions to the OSPFv2 Link State Routing Protocol to meet the requirements for routing in an ASON. Note that this work is scoped to the requirements and evaluation expressed in RFC 4258 and RFC 4652 and the ITU-T Recommendations current when those documents were written. Future extensions of revisions of this work may be necessary if the ITU-T Recommendations are revised or if new requirements are introduced into a revision of RFC 4258. This document obsoletes RFC 5787 and updates RFC 5786. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rfc5787bis There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rfc5787bis-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-rfc5787bis-06 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From agmalis@gmail.com Tue Oct 9 09:39:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B37F21F87E5 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:39:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UcIRVDsvrcjp for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C8A21F87E4 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f172.google.com with SMTP id k13so4290614lbo.31 for ; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 09:39:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=zcKoEBgEPuuhbZtm+WZckJmfqHm+WkeP2gJatuM+07A=; b=Ixmoa6kKDdwJYLymNN/qM/vwTV1ftgE30S6bQiYUD7/HeOPGFgreThegxAArCw5kYq WEH6dAzGzk3R+qxrpwH3bFW+VnGDIbxy6dINOdy81iwBd89J8jDIIJzyqxUVRxrkIW6g VmhgcabDpT33LagpnvxT+BDNw6b/mllJWb4jFw+l4K72TdUg0ur102shkZZhZwChvcz/ dkexV+IS9O8d0fsOsA8SbRZzD3HfUR4WqclnA+kwIYv/WNag6SdG1WXuW7vyte7MPSJD bVBVOv46tcQ6We7VmdBXoIFC3fugx4pqNDyrTjFQ2xlPbDCr4NaTwPF3QvtREnTY7Nvo jTfg== Received: by 10.112.47.129 with SMTP id d1mr2367249lbn.115.1349800775997; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 09:39:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.61.5 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20121009162655.22863.80126.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <20121009162655.22863.80126.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:39:15 -0700 Message-ID: To: ccamp@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [CCAMP] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rfc5787bis-06.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 16:39:42 -0000 I've just uploaded draft-ietf-ccamp-rfc5787bis-06.txt to address IETF last call comments on -05. Some minor nits were fixed as a result of Gen-ART, Routing Directorate, and IANA review comments. The more substantive changes were to clarify terminology regarding transport plane vs. data plane, name spaces, and reachability. There is a link in the email below to generate a diff from the previous revision. Cheers, Andy ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:26 AM Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rfc5787bis-06.txt To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : ASON Routing for OSPFv2 Protocols Author(s) : Andrew G. Malis Acee Lindem Dimitri Papadimitriou Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-rfc5787bis-06.txt Pages : 29 Date : 2012-10-09 Abstract: The ITU-T has defined an architecture and requirements for operating an Automatically Switched Optical Network (ASON). The Generalized Multiprotocol Label Switching (GMPLS) protocol suite is designed to provide a control plane for a range of network technologies including optical networks such as time division multiplexing (TDM) networks including SONET/SDH and Optical Transport Networks (OTNs), and lambda switching optical networks. The requirements for GMPLS routing to satisfy the requirements of ASON routing, and an evaluation of existing GMPLS routing protocols are provided in other documents. This document defines extensions to the OSPFv2 Link State Routing Protocol to meet the requirements for routing in an ASON. Note that this work is scoped to the requirements and evaluation expressed in RFC 4258 and RFC 4652 and the ITU-T Recommendations current when those documents were written. Future extensions of revisions of this work may be necessary if the ITU-T Recommendations are revised or if new requirements are introduced into a revision of RFC 4258. This document obsoletes RFC 5787 and updates RFC 5786. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rfc5787bis There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rfc5787bis-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-rfc5787bis-06 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ I-D-Announce mailing list I-D-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt From dieter.beller@alcatel-lucent.com Tue Oct 9 14:40:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A86921F86CB for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:40:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.791 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.791 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SGL1vyEbJjkM for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail2.alcatel.fr (smail2.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.57]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DBC21F86C9 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.62]) by smail2.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q99LdtMq013447 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:39:55 +0200 Received: from [135.244.176.13] (135.120.57.7) by FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (135.120.45.62) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:39:54 +0200 Message-ID: <5074999C.8020400@alcatel-lucent.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:39:40 +0200 From: Dieter Beller Organization: Alcatel-Lucent User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lou Berger , CCAMP , Deborah Brungard References: <506AFA9B.2000508@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <506AFA9B.2000508@labn.net> X-SubSwitch: [CCAMP]; [CCAMP] Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------040606050209050903030209" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.80 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:40:02 -0000 --------------040606050209050903030209 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Deborah, Lou, all,

my answers in short:

a. no
b. no for all
c. Experimental for all

Please find some reasoning in-line below.


Thanks,
Dieter
On 02.10.2012 16:30, Lou Berger wrote:
CCAMP,

The WG has several WSON-related drafts including:
   1. draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode
   2. draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te
   3. draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode
   4. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf 	
   5. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling

These drafts are currently identified as being on the Standards
Track.  The WG typically requests Standards Track publication of
documents that fill/fix a clear protocol function and/or have
strong WG support. Given the scope of this work as well as the
time the drafts have been active in the WG, we'd like to solicit
the WG's input on the publication track to be requested.

Once the WG reaches consensus on these drafts (as indicated by a
*future* WG last call), Standards Track publication can be
requested or these drafts could also be published via a
non-Standards Track, see section 4.2 of RFC2026 for all options.

Please let us know (preferably by responding on the WG list) if you:

a. Support targeting all of these documents for Standards Track
   publication?
  [yes/no]
no - the major reason is that optical transponders from different vendors are typically
not interoperable today. As long as data plane interoperability does not exist, Standards
Track does IMHO not really make sense for the WSON documents in question.
b. If no, support targeting some of these documents for Standards
   Track publication?
  [1, yes/no
   2, yes/no
   3, yes/no
   4, yes/no
   5, yes/no]
no for all.
c. If no to any of the above, which status do you think appropriate?
  [Experimental or Informational]
Experimental status for all

Looking at the guidelines in http://www.ietf.org/iesg/informational-vs-experimental.html
guideline 4 is probably the most relevant one for these documents:


Guideline 4:

If the IETF may publish something based on this on the standards track once we know
how well this one works, it's Experimental. This is the typical case of not being able
to decide which protocol is "better" before we have experience of dealing with them from
a stable specification.

d. Finally, we are most interested in hearing from anyone who has,
   or is planning an implementation based on the WG drafts.  We
   understand that some may not want this information published,
   so please let any of the chairs and/or ADs know (Lou,
   Deborah, Adrian or Stewart), and they will publish the
   information without any personal or company identification.

Keep in mind that this mail is *not* starting a WG last call on
any of the documents identified above.  We'd like input on
intended publication status prior to any last call discussion.

Lou and Deborah
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In-Reply-To: <5065B236.9080009@labn.net> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.66.104.159] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 03:39:53 -0700 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:19:18 -0000 Hi all, Yes; IPR has been disclosed already. B.R. Yi LIN HUAWEI Technologies Co., Ltd. Address: Huawei Industrial Base Bantian Longgang Shenzhen 518129, P.R.China http://www.huawei.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail and its attachments contain confidential information from HUAWE= I, which is intended only for the person or entity whose address is listed above. An= y use of the information contained herein in any way (including, but not limited to, tot= al or partial disclosure, reproduction, or dissemination) by persons other than the inten= ded recipient(s) is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please not= ify the sender by phone or email immediately and delete it! -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 10:21 PM To: Fatai Zhang; zhangguoying@mail.ritt.com.cn; sergio.belotti@alcatel-luce= nt.it; daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; kpithewan@infinera.com; Linyi; xuyu= nbin@mail.ritt.com.cn; pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.it; diego.cavi= glia@ericsson.com; rrao@infinera.com; jdrake@juniper.net; IBryskin@advaopti= cal.com Cc: CCAMP Subject: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&document_= search=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3? 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From lberger@labn.net Wed Oct 10 04:00:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A50321F8514 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 04:00:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -98.827 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-98.827 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.116, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZGL4cqLXixzU for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 04:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy8.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a8]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id F1DA121F8508 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 04:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7238 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2012 11:00:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy8.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2012 11:00:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=tVkKvuW8U6M+nyfFUjYmL+70EwPt7+u1XRbseP7ftxY=; b=AZjOCBEBtc5bkhFOVMw/Sl9pUyAKmxBzcZ6rcTJxbuZFSY1NpAwIgh+sPEA6YyGhFj71Kkj7U6Fj2MjxB8bxcdJkHWXtMDoFeyGV1Qn5bwim77rLP8W8F4zMWQL2pVJl; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:39981 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TLu1y-00010c-06; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:00:50 -0600 Message-ID: <5075555F.7000803@labn.net> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:00:47 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: zhang.fei3@zte.com.cn References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" , venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-zhang-ccamp-mpls-tp-rsvpte-ext-tunnel-num-04.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:00:53 -0000 fyi - changing the title in the text doesn't require a change in the filename, and such a change just confuses things/people... On 10/10/2012 2:57 AM, zhang.fei3@zte.com.cn wrote: > > Hi Lou > > We have finished the editing according to your suggestion, please help > review the draft to see whether another roll of revision is needed. > > > A new version of I-D, draft-zvxg-ccamp-mpls-tp-rsvpte-id-00.txt > has been successfully submitted by Fei Zhang and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Filename: draft-zvxg-ccamp-mpls-tp-rsvpte-id > Revision: 00 > Title: RSVP-TE Identification of > MPLS-TP Co-Routed Bidirectional LSP > Creation date: 2012-10-12 > WG ID: Individual Submission > Number of pages: 8 > URL: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-zvxg-ccamp-mpls-tp-rsvpte-id-00.txt > Status: > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zvxg-ccamp-mpls-tp-rsvpte-id > Htmlized: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zvxg-ccamp-mpls-tp-rsvpte-id-00 > > > Abstract: > The MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) identifiers document [RFC6370] > specifies an initial set of identifiers, including the local assigned > Z9-Tunnel_Num for co-routed bidirectional LSP, which is not covered > by the current specifications, like [RFC3209], [RFC3473]. This > document defines Resource ReserVation Protocol Traffic Engnieering > (RSVP-TE) identification of MPLS-TP co-routed bidirectional LSP. > > > Thanks and best regards > > ;) > > The authors > > > *Lou Berger * > > 2012-10-09 02:11 > > > ÊÕ¼þÈË > zhang.fei3@zte.com.cn, "Rakesh Gandhi (rgandhi)" , > venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com, xuyunbin@mail.ritt.com.cn, > bao.xiao1@zte.com.cn, "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS)" > ³­ËÍ > > Ö÷Ìâ > Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: > draft-zhang-ccamp-mpls-tp-rsvpte-ext-tunnel-num-04.txt > > > > > > > > > Fei, Authors, > I think you have the document scoped to match the > discussion. I'm > personally still having a hard time with parsing the document. I think > I know what you mean to say, it's just that the document isn't always so > clear. I think some editing might help. > > Hhere are some suggestions: > 1) Change the title to something like: > RSVP-TE Identification of MPLS-TP Co-Routed Bidirectional LSPs > > 2) Simplify the Abstract, perhaps just focus on the purpose of the > extension vs the details of the extension. > > 3) Ensure the Intro covers the key points clearly. I see the minimal > set of key points as: > - TP identifiers are defined in RFC6370 > - Identifiers are need by both end points of a bidirectional LSP > for OAM > - RFC6370 defines mapping of TP identifiers to RSVP-TE for > associated bidirectional LSPs (but other aspects aren't which > are covered by [associated-lsp]), but not co-routed LSPs. > - The high level approach taken by the draft to address the > missing function. > > 4) The Operation section seems to be covering procedures, so why not > just combine with section 4.2, or add an informational description of > the extension as part of section 4 (before section 4.1). > > 5) The Procedures section needs to explicitly define what an > implementation needs to do to (a) support the desired function and (b) > conform with the document. Think about covering what the > ingress/transit/egress needs to do and how it needs to do it. > > Lou > > PS please feel free to respond on-list (including the above) if you'd like. > > On 8/28/2012 12:33 PM, zhang.fei3@zte.com.cn wrote: >> >> Lou >> >> We have received comments offline/online and addressed them into the >> draft v-03 from the polling version 02, then updated the draft to v-04 >> according to the comments received since IETF84 meeting and pushed the >> proposal into the mailinglist also to hear more opinions. >> >> The authors think we have addressed all the comments and this draft is >> ready for WG consideration now. >> >> Any suggestion? >> >> Best regards :) >> >> Fei >> >> >> *Lou Berger * >> >> 2012-08-21 01:38 >> >> >> ÊÕ¼þÈË >> zhang.fei3@zte.com.cn >> ³­ËÍ >> ccamp@ietf.org >> Ö÷Ìâ >> Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: >> draft-zhang-ccamp-mpls-tp-rsvpte-ext-tunnel-num-04.txt >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Fei, >> To respond to your procedure point: >> >> On 8/17/2012 3:27 AM, zhang.fei3@zte.com.cn wrote: >>> I am not sure whether this draft should follow the the procedures >>> defined for WG documents or not. >> >> Individual drafts are completely under the control of the authors. Of >> course, they may choose to listen to feedback of WG participants in hope >> of getting their draft accepted as a WG draft.... >> >> Lou >> >> > From ogondio@tid.es Wed Oct 10 08:44:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A198321F8619 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:44:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tmNqlNo0aZTb for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from correo-bck.tid.es (correo-bck.tid.es [195.235.93.200]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1997821F864A for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbrightmailg02.hi.inet (Sbrightmailg02.hi.inet [10.95.78.105]) by tid.hi.inet (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0MBO0072BP1WPO@tid.hi.inet> for ccamp@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:44:25 +0200 (MEST) Received: from vanvan (vanvan.hi.inet [10.95.78.49]) by sbrightmailg02.hi.inet (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 1C.5D.05494.9D795705; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:44:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from correo.tid.es (mailhost.hi.inet [10.95.64.100]) by tid.hi.inet (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPS id <0MBO00MY6P2114@tid.hi.inet> for ccamp@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:44:25 +0200 (MEST) Received: from EX10-MB2-MAD.hi.inet ([169.254.2.209]) by ex10-htcas3-mad.hi.inet ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:44:25 +0200 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:44:24 +0000 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Oscar_Gonz=E1lez_de_Dios?= In-reply-to: X-Originating-IP: [10.95.64.115] To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "ccamp@ietf.org" Message-id: <7CFF94B047D8864CB6268315034E35DE058417@EX10-MB2-MAD.hi.inet> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-language: es-ES Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Accept-Language: es-ES, en-US Thread-topic: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG document Thread-index: Ac2gGVWYHc3eSu9jR8ykDE5sjWSBrwG5EiSw X-AuditID: 0a5f4e69-b7fc06d000001576-12-507597d9817a X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFupkleLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42Lhivcz1L05vTTAYN8fUYsnc26wODB6LFny kymAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoErY237SZaCmZwVd+f8YmxgvMbexcjJISFgInH/aiMLhC0mceHe erYuRi4OIYHtjBK3z35khHB+Mkr8fbWWGcKZyShx60MTK0gLi4CqxMzW9cwgNpuAg8S6Rb1s ILawQIhE5/HzjCA2p0CUxPTOh0wQKxQk/px7DLSOg0NEwFdi6nSwMK+Ap8S1tn3sELagxI/J 98AuYhbQkej9/o0ZwhaXmPNrIiuErS3x5N0FMJtRQFZi5fnTYKtEBEIldk2fyA5hG0ns+jiV GWKtgMSSPeehbFGJl4//gfUKCURK7Dt9kGUCo9gsJKtnIVk9C8nqWUhWL2BkWcUoVpxUlJme UZKbmJmTbmCkl5Gpl5mXWrKJERIvmTsYl+9UOcQowMGoxMO7+FpJgBBrYllxZe4hRkkOJiVR 3hOTSgOE+JLyUyozEosz4otKc1KLDzFKcDArifCa+gDleFMSK6tSi/JhUjIcHEoSvKenAaUE i1LTUyvSMnOASQEmzcTBCdLOA9S+GaSGt7ggMbc4Mx0if4pRUkqctw4kIQCSyCjNg+t9xSgO dKQw73eQLA8wfcF1vQIayAQ0UGZSCcjAkkSElFQDo0n/8jaWPvMFXRuiVc/zhSzy//XoyMo6 iWtMzc61hn1PG5drmRye3eCecce56mH5guu1M69lHylvb9px5/r3461FtkdnGNvK2YVv/2Ey uej3/5Nntk2MkyvY9+9Vp+LFX19Wn38+la+bg29XkMa+gz0H/moELFA03rhZv+0d8++5XqUm 14LYnimxFGckGmoxFxUnAgCx1XPSHAMAAA== References: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:44:44 -0000 Yes/support =D3scar -----Mensaje original----- De: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] En nombre de BRU= NGARD, DEBORAH A Enviado el: lunes, 01 de octubre de 2012 23:12 Para: ccamp@ietf.org Asunto: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG docume= nt All, This is to start a two week poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update= a ccamp working group document. 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We only send and re= ceive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx From db3546@att.com Wed Oct 10 11:03:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0AC621F87DC for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:03:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GxBj616oI2cf for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com (nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com [209.65.160.93]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AE521F87DA for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown [144.160.20.145] (EHLO mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) by nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-6.11.0-12) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 968b5705.0.527556.00-282.1482668.nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:03:22 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 5075b86a67102035-d09a3975776b44659fe99cb97d920092fd50fe16 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9AI3LJO022782 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:03:21 -0400 Received: from sflint02.pst.cso.att.com (sflint02.pst.cso.att.com [144.154.234.229]) by mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9AI3HNg022730 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:03:19 -0400 Received: from MISOUT7MSGHUB9E.ITServices.sbc.com (misout7msghub9e.itservices.sbc.com [144.151.223.61]) by sflint02.pst.cso.att.com (RSA Interceptor) for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:03:06 -0400 Received: from MISOUT7MSGUSR9O.ITServices.sbc.com ([144.151.223.75]) by MISOUT7MSGHUB9E.ITServices.sbc.com ([144.151.223.61]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:03:06 -0400 From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" To: "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: CCAMP agenda items: Flexible Grids Thread-Index: Ac2nEX7vP9ik6/AERuKUA2TUcOsPvg== Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:03:05 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.16.234.222] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Spam: [F=0.2000000000; CM=0.500; S=0.200(2010122901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [144.160.20.145] X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.0 cv=VYZAyiV9 c=1 sm=0 a=ZRNLZ4dFUbCvG8UMqPvVAA==:17 a] X-AnalysisOut: [=7vvX18I3WDsA:10 a=TovDiD9Gnz4A:10 a=ofMgfj31e3cA:10 a=BLc] X-AnalysisOut: [eEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zQP7CpKOAAAA:8 a=XIqpo32R] X-AnalysisOut: [AAAA:8 a=197k8YHyBoYA:10 a=l2Nv1W1JBW311DdldhYA:9 a=CjuIK1] X-AnalysisOut: [q_8ugA:10] Subject: [CCAMP] CCAMP agenda items: Flexible Grids X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:03:23 -0000 CCAMP, We've been having requests asking if Flexible Grid work will be included on= the agenda. We don't have any specific restrictions on this topic for this meeting. Regards, Deborah and Lou From gregb@grotto-networking.com Wed Oct 10 11:37:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F261F0429 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:37:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6Xh026AevlcP for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.webfaction.com (mail6.webfaction.com [74.55.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFAD521F85A7 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.124] (c-67-170-243-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.170.243.110]) by smtp.webfaction.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD3E20B5145 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:36:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <5075C033.10904@grotto-networking.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:36:35 -0700 From: Greg Bernstein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ccamp@ietf.org References: <506AFA9B.2000508@labn.net> <5074999C.8020400@alcatel-lucent.com> In-Reply-To: <5074999C.8020400@alcatel-lucent.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090807080901030801070402" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:37:05 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090807080901030801070402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi CCAMPer's I'd like to remind folks that carriers, vendors, and industry in general have benefited from control plane standards even in the case where data plane compatibility is rare or non-existent. The WSON drafts formalized and added key extensions (connectivity matrix) of existing implemented standards track wavelength switching documents, i.e., the orginal GMPLS documents were aimed at WSON. In addition all these WSON documents adhere to and reinforce ITU-T recommendations. Also remember that these drafts standardize two key missing pieces to the optical control plane: (i) modeling of asymmetric switches (per ITU-T recomendation), and (ii) wavelength accounting for RWA. I would think that carriers and vendors would not want to reinvent the wheel on these fundamental abilities. Best Regards Greg On 10/9/2012 2:39 PM, Dieter Beller wrote: > Hi Deborah, Lou, all, > > my answers in short: > > a. no > b. no for all > c. Experimental for all > > Please find some reasoning in-line below. > > > Thanks, > Dieter > > On 02.10.2012 16:30, Lou Berger wrote: >> CCAMP, >> >> The WG has several WSON-related drafts including: >> 1. draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode >> 2. draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te >> 3. draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode >> 4. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf >> 5. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling >> >> These drafts are currently identified as being on the Standards >> Track. The WG typically requests Standards Track publication of >> documents that fill/fix a clear protocol function and/or have >> strong WG support. Given the scope of this work as well as the >> time the drafts have been active in the WG, we'd like to solicit >> the WG's input on the publication track to be requested. >> >> Once the WG reaches consensus on these drafts (as indicated by a >> *future* WG last call), Standards Track publication can be >> requested or these drafts could also be published via a >> non-Standards Track, see section 4.2 of RFC2026 for all options. >> >> Please let us know (preferably by responding on the WG list) if you: >> >> a. Support targeting all of these documents for Standards Track >> publication? >> [yes/no] > no - the major reason is that optical transponders from different > vendors are typically > not interoperable today. As long as data plane interoperability does > not exist, Standards > Track does IMHO not really make sense for the WSON documents in question. >> b. If no, support targeting some of these documents for Standards >> Track publication? >> [1, yes/no >> 2, yes/no >> 3, yes/no >> 4, yes/no >> 5, yes/no] > no for all. >> c. If no to any of the above, which status do you think appropriate? >> [Experimental or Informational] > Experimental status for all > > Looking at the guidelines in > http://www.ietf.org/iesg/informational-vs-experimental.html > guideline 4 is probably the most relevant one for these documents: > > > _Guideline 4_: > > If the IETF *may **publish something* based on this on the standards > track *once we know* > *how well this one works*, it's *Experimental*. This is the typical > case of not being able > to decide which protocol is "better" before we have experience of > dealing with them from > a stable specification. > >> d. Finally, we are most interested in hearing from anyone who has, >> or is planning an implementation based on the WG drafts. We >> understand that some may not want this information published, >> so please let any of the chairs and/or ADs know (Lou, >> Deborah, Adrian or Stewart), and they will publish the >> information without any personal or company identification. >> >> Keep in mind that this mail is *not* starting a WG last call on >> any of the documents identified above. We'd like input on >> intended publication status prior to any last call discussion. >> >> Lou and Deborah >> _______________________________________________ >> CCAMP mailing list >> CCAMP@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > -- > > *DIETER BELLER* > ALCATEL-LUCENT DEUTSCHLAND AG > PROJECT MANAGER ASON/GMPLS CONTROL PLANE > NETWORKS GROUP, OPTICS DIVISION > TERRESTRIAL OPTICS UNIT > > Lorenzstrasse 10 > 70435 Stuttgart, Germany > T: +49 711 821 43125 > M: +49 175 7266874 > *Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucent.com > > *Alcatel-Lucent Deutschland AG > Domicile of the Company: Stuttgart · Local Court Stuttgart HRB 4026 > Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Michael Oppenhoff > Board of Management: Wilhelm Dresselhaus (Chairman) · Hans-Jörg Daub · > Dr. Rainer Fechner · Andreas Gehe > > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp -- =================================================== Dr Greg Bernstein, Grotto Networking (510) 573-2237 --------------090807080901030801070402 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------090407010600070707070107" --------------090407010600070707070107 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi CCAMPer's  I'd like to remind folks that carriers, vendors, and industry in general have benefited from control plane standards even in the case where data plane compatibility is rare or non-existent.
The WSON drafts formalized and added key extensions (connectivity matrix) of existing implemented standards track wavelength switching documents, i.e., the orginal GMPLS documents were aimed at WSON.  In addition all these WSON documents adhere to and reinforce ITU-T recommendations. 

Also remember that these drafts standardize two key missing pieces to the optical control plane: (i) modeling of asymmetric switches (per ITU-T recomendation), and (ii) wavelength accounting for RWA.  I would think that carriers and vendors would not want to reinvent the wheel on these fundamental abilities.

Best Regards
Greg


On 10/9/2012 2:39 PM, Dieter Beller wrote:
Hi Deborah, Lou, all,

my answers in short:

a. no
b. no for all
c. Experimental for all

Please find some reasoning in-line below.


Thanks,
Dieter
On 02.10.2012 16:30, Lou Berger wrote:
CCAMP,

The WG has several WSON-related drafts including:
   1. draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode
   2. draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te
   3. draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode
   4. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf 	
   5. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling

These drafts are currently identified as being on the Standards
Track.  The WG typically requests Standards Track publication of
documents that fill/fix a clear protocol function and/or have
strong WG support. Given the scope of this work as well as the
time the drafts have been active in the WG, we'd like to solicit
the WG's input on the publication track to be requested.

Once the WG reaches consensus on these drafts (as indicated by a
*future* WG last call), Standards Track publication can be
requested or these drafts could also be published via a
non-Standards Track, see section 4.2 of RFC2026 for all options.

Please let us know (preferably by responding on the WG list) if you:

a. Support targeting all of these documents for Standards Track
   publication?
  [yes/no]
no - the major reason is that optical transponders from different vendors are typically
not interoperable today. As long as data plane interoperability does not exist, Standards
Track does IMHO not really make sense for the WSON documents in question.
b. If no, support targeting some of these documents for Standards
   Track publication?
  [1, yes/no
   2, yes/no
   3, yes/no
   4, yes/no
   5, yes/no]
no for all.
c. If no to any of the above, which status do you think appropriate?
  [Experimental or Informational]
Experimental status for all

Looking at the guidelines in http://www.ietf.org/iesg/informational-vs-experimental.html
guideline 4 is probably the most relevant one for these documents:


Guideline 4:

If the IETF may publish something based on this on the standards track once we know
how well this one works, it's Experimental. This is the typical case of not being able
to decide which protocol is "better" before we have experience of dealing with them from
a stable specification.

d. Finally, we are most interested in hearing from anyone who has,
   or is planning an implementation based on the WG drafts.  We
   understand that some may not want this information published,
   so please let any of the chairs and/or ADs know (Lou,
   Deborah, Adrian or Stewart), and they will publish the
   information without any personal or company identification.

Keep in mind that this mail is *not* starting a WG last call on
any of the documents identified above.  We'd like input on
intended publication status prior to any last call discussion.

Lou and Deborah
_______________________________________________
CCAMP mailing list
CCAMP@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp

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ALCATEL-LUCENT DEUTSCHLAND AG
PROJECT MANAGER ASON/GMPLS CONTROL PLANE
NETWORKS GROUP, OPTICS DIVISION
TERRESTRIAL OPTICS UNIT

Lorenzstrasse 10
70435 Stuttgart, Germany
T: +49 711 821 43125
M: +49 175 7266874
Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucent.com

Alcatel-Lucent Deutschland AG
Domicile of the Company: Stuttgart · Local Court Stuttgart HRB 4026
Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Michael Oppenhoff
Board of Management: Wilhelm Dresselhaus (Chairman) · Hans-Jörg Daub ·
Dr. Rainer Fechner · Andreas Gehe


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amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.507 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.507 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.092, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fGaI-bOHUjQT; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B42221F859B; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:20:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121011002016.9953.54223.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:20:16 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-zhang-ccamp-mpls-tp-rsvpte-ext-tunnel-num-05.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:20:17 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Work= ing Group of the IETF. Title : RSVP-TE Identification of MPLS-TP Co-Routed Bidirectiona= l LSP Author(s) : Fei Zhang Venkatesan Mahalingam Yunbin Xu Rakesh Gandhi Filename : draft-zhang-ccamp-mpls-tp-rsvpte-ext-tunnel-num-05.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2012-10-10 Abstract: The MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) identifiers document [RFC6370] specifies an initial set of identifiers, including the local assigned Z9-Tunnel_Num for co-routed bidirectional LSP, which is not covered by the current specifications, like [RFC3209], [RFC3473]. This document defines Resource ReserVation Protocol Traffic Engnieering (RSVP-TE) identification of MPLS-TP co-routed bidirectional LSP. 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2.69 on 155.132.188.80 Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" , "danli@huawei.com" Subject: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:10:23 -0000 Hello Lo, In line. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Pietro Vittorio Grandi Terrestrial Optics Portfolio Evolution Alcatel-Lucent Vimercate (Italy) Tel: +39 039 686 4930 Mail: pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's rel= ativity. (A. Einstein) -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Inviato: venerd=EC 28 settembre 2012 16.20 A: BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO); GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO); dan= iele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; zhangfatai@huawei.com; danli@huawei.com Cc: CCAMP Oggetto: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model? [[PG]] No I am not aware of any patent. If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. From pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com Thu Oct 11 00:13:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F47021F86D0 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:13:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IMOIvXplGZCb for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail3.alcatel.fr (smail3.alcatel.fr [62.23.212.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5ED21F86CA for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.62]) by smail3.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q9B7Ck2d002403 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:13:03 +0200 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSB1.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.41]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.62]) with mapi; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:12:42 +0200 From: "GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO)" To: Lou Berger Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:12:40 +0200 Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 Thread-Index: Ac2dhHccnsnJG16tQx6os2VQllPp6QJXXRDgACdkA1A= Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.83 Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:13:11 -0000 Hello Lou I am not aware of any patent. Pietro =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Pietro Vittorio Grandi Terrestrial Optics Portfolio Evolution Alcatel-Lucent Vimercate (Italy) Tel: +39 039 686 4930 Mail: pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's rel= ativity. (A. Einstein) -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Inviato: venerd=EC 28 settembre 2012 16.21 A: zhangfatai@huawei.com; zhangguoying@mail.ritt.com.cn; BELOTTI, SERGIO (S= ERGIO); daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; kpithewan@infinera.com; yi.lin@hua= wei.com; xuyunbin@mail.ritt.com.cn; GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORI= O); diego.caviglia@ericsson.com; rrao@infinera.com; jdrake@juniper.net; IBr= yskin@advaoptical.com Cc: CCAMP Oggetto: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&document_= search=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. From pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com Thu Oct 11 00:13:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D369421F84D5 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:13:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hog9BGk6fKXK for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail3.alcatel.fr (smail3.alcatel.fr [62.23.212.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006D821F846D for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.64]) by smail3.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q9B7CceP002320 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:13:48 +0200 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSB1.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.41]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.64]) with mapi; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:13:25 +0200 From: "GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO)" To: Lou Berger Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:13:24 +0200 Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 Thread-Index: Ac2dhHzk0p7qQDOGRriD/7IKgR3g9wJXYZYwACdzi+A= Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.83 Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:13:52 -0000 Hello Lou, I am not aware of any patent Pietro =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Pietro Vittorio Grandi Terrestrial Optics Portfolio Evolution Alcatel-Lucent Vimercate (Italy) Tel: +39 039 686 4930 Mail: pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's rel= ativity. (A. Einstein) -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Inviato: venerd=EC 28 settembre 2012 16.21 A: daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; diego.caviglia@ericsson.com; zhangfatai= @huawei.com; danli@huawei.com; BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO); GRANDI, PIETRO VIT= TORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO); rrao@infinera.com; kpithewan@infinera.com; jdrake@= juniper.net Cc: CCAMP Oggetto: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&document_= search=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. From lberger@labn.net Thu Oct 11 06:38:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E49C21F8734 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:38:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.028 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.028 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.133, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sSWkYnQOk6ci for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com (unknown [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 841F421F84A2 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4167 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2012 13:38:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy12.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Oct 2012 13:38:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=u06/ircNAJl/jZ9b0HoHqU5e4u4HxzaANofHuKpAKq8=; b=hOd5lgktS5CUeK97d6Au+dw44aIwd5s19LAFrVddpZOhMZN6LVNZM+E3JoY8PUQsrYnzEExaNL9scy5nmna2iBQB2RcLyYHoGEttV3gZA+eAik+hVrgGk9SToIc0/Dpx; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:40437 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TMIxs-0003J0-Sq; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:38:17 -0600 Message-ID: <5076CBC2.2040802@labn.net> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:38:10 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: zhangfatai@huawei.com, huawei.danli@huawei.com, lihan@chinamobile.com, sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.it, daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com, hanjianrui@huawei.com, malcolm.betts@huawei.com, GRANDI PIETRO VITTORIO , "eve.varma@alcatel-lucent.com >> \"Varma, Eve L (Eve)\"" References: <5065B228.1070701@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <5065B228.1070701@labn.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:38:24 -0000 In my first message, I missed the following contributors identified in the draft: Pietro Grandi Eve Varma IPR statements are also needed from these contributors. Thank you, Lou On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) > > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. > > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs > > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > From pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com Thu Oct 11 06:46:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9417E21F8768 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:46:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.916 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.916 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.333, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Iq3X5kdxD8-V for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail2.alcatel.fr (smail2.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.57]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E4621F8757 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.61]) by smail2.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q9BDiodh025731 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:46:29 +0200 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSB1.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.41]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.61]) with mapi; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:46:10 +0200 From: "GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO)" To: Lou Berger , "zhangfatai@huawei.com" , "huawei.danli@huawei.com" , "lihan@chinamobile.com" , "BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)" , "daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com" , "hanjianrui@huawei.com" , "malcolm.betts@huawei.com" , "Varma, Eve L (Eve)" Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:46:08 +0200 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework Thread-Index: Ac2ntbDg8B/k89ZhTjCStXq95DCm6AAAQYDA Message-ID: References: <5065B228.1070701@labn.net> <5076CBC2.2040802@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <5076CBC2.2040802@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.80 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:46:42 -0000 Hello Lou, I am not aware of any patent =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Pietro Vittorio Grandi Terrestrial Optics Portfolio Evolution Alcatel-Lucent Vimercate (Italy) Tel: +39 039 686 4930 Mail: pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's rel= ativity. (A. Einstein) -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Sent: gioved=EC 11 ottobre 2012 15.38 To: zhangfatai@huawei.com; huawei.danli@huawei.com; lihan@chinamobile.com; = BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO); daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; hanjianrui@huawe= i.com; malcolm.betts@huawei.com; GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO);= Varma, Eve L (Eve) Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework In my first message, I missed the following contributors identified in the draft: Pietro Grandi Eve Varma IPR statements are also needed from these contributors. Thank you, Lou On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) >=20 > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework? >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. >=20 > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. >=20 > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs >=20 > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From eve.varma@alcatel-lucent.com Thu Oct 11 06:48:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA44821F8764 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:48:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JvuYVoXITFR2 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail2.alcatel.fr (smail2.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.57]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8CF21F8757 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.63]) by smail2.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q9BDjhPU026508 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:47:55 +0200 Received: from US70UWXCHHUB02.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (135.5.2.49) by FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (135.120.45.63) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:47:42 +0200 Received: from US70UWXCHMBA05.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.10.26]) by US70UWXCHHUB02.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.5.2.49]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:47:32 -0400 From: "Varma, Eve L (Eve)" To: "GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO)" , Lou Berger , "zhangfatai@huawei.com" , "huawei.danli@huawei.com" , "lihan@chinamobile.com" , "BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)" , "daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com" , "hanjianrui@huawei.com" , "malcolm.betts@huawei.com" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework Thread-Index: AQHNnYR6gU3kSQh1kUGXpIU78oqbcAAAQYDAl7QwsrA= Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:47:32 +0000 Message-ID: <6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D80982CA3C@US70UWXCHMBA05.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <5065B228.1070701@labn.net> <5076CBC2.2040802@labn.net> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.5.27.16] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.80 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:48:13 -0000 Hi Lou, Nor I. Best regards, Eve -----Original Message----- From: GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO)=20 Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:46 AM To: Lou Berger; zhangfatai@huawei.com; huawei.danli@huawei.com; lihan@china= mobile.com; BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO); daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; hanj= ianrui@huawei.com; malcolm.betts@huawei.com; Varma, Eve L (Eve) Cc: CCAMP Subject: RE: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework Hello Lou, I am not aware of any patent =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Pietro Vittorio Grandi Terrestrial Optics Portfolio Evolution Alcatel-Lucent Vimercate (Italy) Tel: +39 039 686 4930 Mail: pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's rel= ativity. (A. Einstein) -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Sent: gioved=EC 11 ottobre 2012 15.38 To: zhangfatai@huawei.com; huawei.danli@huawei.com; lihan@chinamobile.com; = BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO); daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; hanjianrui@huawe= i.com; malcolm.betts@huawei.com; GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO);= Varma, Eve L (Eve) Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework In my first message, I missed the following contributors identified in the draft: Pietro Grandi Eve Varma IPR statements are also needed from these contributors. Thank you, Lou On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) >=20 > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework? >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. >=20 > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. >=20 > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs >=20 > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From internet-drafts@ietf.org Thu Oct 11 08:42:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC9E21F8748; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 08:42:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.503 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.503 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.096, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P5R7DoCtXv4N; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 08:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE87821F877C; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 08:42:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121011154242.4989.48479.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 08:42:42 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-10.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:42:43 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Work= ing Group of the IETF. Title : Configuration of Pro-Active Operations, Administration, = and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for MPLS-based Transport Networks using RSV= P-TE Author(s) : Elisa Bellagamba Loa Andersson Pontus Skoldstrom Dave Ward Attila Takacs Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-10.txt Pages : 22 Date : 2012-10-11 Abstract: This specification describes the configuration of pro-active MPLS-TP Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for a given LSP using a set of TLVs that are carried by the RSVP-TE protocol. This document is a product of a joint Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) / International Telecommunication Union Telecommunication Standardization Sector (ITU-T) effort to include an MPLS Transport Profile within the IETF MPLS and PWE3 architectures to support the capabilities and functionalities of a packet transport network. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext= -10 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From elisa.bellagamba@ericsson.com Thu Oct 11 08:46:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4B721F874C for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 08:46:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GUlT4g5IBqBI for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 08:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw7.ericsson.se (mailgw7.ericsson.se [193.180.251.48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE73021F86C9 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 08:46:11 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb30-b7f7d6d0000042ea-d3-5076e9c281d7 Received: from esessmw0184.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw7.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id D6.E3.17130.2C9E6705; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:46:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSHC012.ericsson.se (153.88.183.54) by esessmw0184.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.81) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.279.1; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:46:10 +0200 Received: from ESESSMB203.ericsson.se ([169.254.3.26]) by ESESSHC012.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.54]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:46:09 +0200 From: Elisa Bellagamba To: Lou Berger , "draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt Thread-Index: Ac2lcbszASh4fC3dSkOY6NEb9wFeSQCVVyIQ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:46:09 +0000 Message-ID: <59AB558A089035438998A3EE6321ACBEAF72@ESESSMB203.ericsson.se> References: <20121007182354.19033.17145.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <5072FEC1.7020108@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <5072FEC1.7020108@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.18] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmpmkeLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42KZGfG3VvfQy7IAg5+79S2ezLnBYvHz8U5W i47mtywWlyZMZXZg8fhw/CSbx5IlP5k8PmxqZvP4cvkzWwBLFJdNSmpOZllqkb5dAlfGre/N 7AUHJSr6V11lbmBcItzFyMkhIWAisXnSHWYIW0ziwr31bF2MXBxCAqcYJW58a2WBcHYySjzs /wvlLGaU+LfxM1AZBwebgJnEukXlIN0iArMYJT5+YAWxmQVyJG5ef8wOYgsLBEnsbT7NClET LPH+4HKwVhEBI4nuLw4gYRYBVYkvt7Yxgdi8Ap4St5/MYgQpERKIl5i6yQMkzCmgIfFi8hM2 EJsR6M7vp9YwQWwSl7j1ZD4TxP0CEkv2nIf6RVTi5eN/rBC2osTHV/sYIer1JG5MncIGYWtL LFv4mhliraDEyZlPWEBsIQEtice32hgnMErMQrJiFpL2WUjaZyFpX8DIsopRODcxMye93Fwv tSgzubg4P0+vOHUTIzAiD275bbCDcdN9sUOM0hwsSuK8eqr7/YUE0hNLUrNTUwtSi+KLSnNS iw8xMnFwSjUwnjgu7D/JznKqiE4vg2V/+KaQuNbuZde3Cmt9/52i9aLCq+vx1jwbzpSVfHsv mOgv5FYV1m1g3SC8f9kLxs8sWs+e6BWsiar859TxianS5qFfwP47N8tn5Uk8dPAJ4EzarTtt cdw5Hb/E5Z1dN79+lr6avvbq8hJDhtTFr1cnHO38Zu31b1uFEktxRqKhFnNRcSIA7juTO5YC AAA= Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:46:13 -0000 Hi Lou, we have just uploaded version 10 which is inserting back the refresh timer = field in accordance with RFC 6427 and fixing the TBD values to the ones rec= ommended in RFC 6375. Thanks, Elisa=20 -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of L= ou Berger Sent: den 8 oktober 2012 18:27 To: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-0= 9.txt Authors, I see you still have some default values called out as TBD. Can you please send your proposed defaults to the WG so that we can ensure = consensus on these? (Obviously, these need to be filled in before any publi= cation request.) Also, I see you removed the units from the Refresh Timer field. Was this i= ntentional? I think some unit of measure is needed. Thanks, Lou On 10/7/2012 2:23 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Wo= rking Group of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Configuration of Pro-Active Operations, Administration= , and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for MPLS-based Transport Networks using R= SVP-TE > Author(s) : Elisa Bellagamba > Loa Andersson > Pontus Skoldstrom > Dave Ward > Attila Takacs > Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt > Pages : 22 > Date : 2012-10-07 >=20 > Abstract: > This specification describes the configuration of pro-active MPLS-TP > Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for a > given LSP using a set of TLVs that are carried by the RSVP-TE > protocol. >=20 > This document is a product of a joint Internet Engineering Task Force > (IETF) / International Telecommunication Union Telecommunication > Standardization Sector (ITU-T) effort to include an MPLS Transport > Profile within the IETF MPLS and PWE3 architectures to support the > capabilities and functionalities of a packet transport network. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam- > ext >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam- > ext-09 >=20 >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From lberger@labn.net Thu Oct 11 12:00:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9721F0C3A for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:00:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.73 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.73 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.169, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k3RQklUU-67r for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a7]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BD87711E80EA for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28300 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2012 19:00:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Oct 2012 19:00:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=CtgDBjR7D2YGO7BlAmosvby5xD1kqZulv7pkUOLD3j8=; b=omR76apGk9wHS1WSoLgfgRaK1treBux14Zn3R1j8f+O2RX4yrClIuVd6/qMD3cWJDhv0G3O73vefQdmrelQRk4xKwVENoGsZBVpLLCpPA2jukC8yoC6mIPfc5RUcVDco; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:44597 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TMNzn-00039B-Mp; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:00:35 -0600 Message-ID: <5077174E.8000407@labn.net> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:00:30 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Elisa Bellagamba References: <20121007182354.19033.17145.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <5072FEC1.7020108@labn.net> <59AB558A089035438998A3EE6321ACBEAF72@ESESSMB203.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <59AB558A089035438998A3EE6321ACBEAF72@ESESSMB203.ericsson.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 19:00:52 -0000 WG, Please review and comment on changes. See http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?difftype=--hwdiff&url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-10.txt Recall that this document is post WG LC. Elisa, Thank you for the update. Some comments. - Please review IDNITs and ensure that the document is clean, see http://tools.ietf.org/idnits?url=http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-10.txt - Missing metrics: line 684 (using lines numbers from nits URL), - Threshold definition, lines 687/8: I really don't think these definitions are adequate to ensure consistent implementation. How about: Loss Threshold: indicates the MaxLMIntervalLoss threshold (measured in packets) as defined in [RFC6374]. - Line 742-4, Delay Threshold: is this one way or two way delay? I don't see how you can specify a default. - line 784, Refresh Timer. This should have a reference and perhaps just say "MUST carry the same value used in the Refresh Timer field defined in [rfc6427]." You might want to discuss your proposed changes on the list and get agreement before rev'ing the document again. Of course, rev numbers are cheap too... Lou On 10/11/2012 11:46 AM, Elisa Bellagamba wrote: > > Hi Lou, > > we have just uploaded version 10 which is inserting back the refresh timer field in accordance with RFC 6427 and fixing the TBD values to the ones recommended in RFC 6375. > > Thanks, > Elisa > > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger > Sent: den 8 oktober 2012 18:27 > To: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt > > Authors, > I see you still have some default values called out as TBD. > Can you please send your proposed defaults to the WG so that we can ensure consensus on these? (Obviously, these need to be filled in before any publication request.) > > Also, I see you removed the units from the Refresh Timer field. Was this intentional? I think some unit of measure is needed. > > Thanks, > Lou > > On 10/7/2012 2:23 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. >> >> Title : Configuration of Pro-Active Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for MPLS-based Transport Networks using RSVP-TE >> Author(s) : Elisa Bellagamba >> Loa Andersson >> Pontus Skoldstrom >> Dave Ward >> Attila Takacs >> Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt >> Pages : 22 >> Date : 2012-10-07 >> >> Abstract: >> This specification describes the configuration of pro-active MPLS-TP >> Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for a >> given LSP using a set of TLVs that are carried by the RSVP-TE >> protocol. >> >> This document is a product of a joint Internet Engineering Task Force >> (IETF) / International Telecommunication Union Telecommunication >> Standardization Sector (ITU-T) effort to include an MPLS Transport >> Profile within the IETF MPLS and PWE3 architectures to support the >> capabilities and functionalities of a packet transport network. >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam- >> ext >> >> There's also a htmlized version available at: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09 >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam- >> ext-09 >> >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CCAMP mailing list >> CCAMP@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > From hanjianrui@huawei.com Thu Oct 11 19:08:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969FB1F0C61 for ; 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Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:41:08 +0200 Received: from ESESSMB301.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.169]) by ESESSHC014.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.60]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:41:07 +0200 From: Daniele Ceccarelli To: CCAMP Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-cecczhang-ccamp-gmpls-g709v3-lmp-00.txt Thread-Index: AQHNqH87MfcEHK5shk+5+uA7WyrLow== Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:41:06 +0000 Message-ID: <4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE48011E25@ESESSMB301.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.18] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrILMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvre4X2YoAg6lfNCyezLnB4sDosWTJ T6YAxigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujJ9LVrIW7BSveHOhvoHxt1AXIyeHhICJRPvszawQtpjEhXvr 2boYuTiEBE4xSpxfOIEdwtnJKNG1oZ8VwlnCKDFpYQ9TFyMHB5uAlcSTQz4g3SICUhI3991i B7GFBUIlps+7ygQRj5I42bgRytaTuD9pKRuIzSKgKrH1yC02kDG8At4SfYdFQMKMArISE3Yv YgSxmQXEJW49mc8EcZyAxJI955khbFGJl4//QR2tKPHx1T6oej2JG1OnsEHY2hLLFr4Gq+cV EJQ4OfMJC4gtJKAjcexPA/MERtFZSFbMQtI+C0n7LCTtCxhZVjEK5yZm5qSXG+qlFmUmFxfn 5+kVp25iBEbDwS2/dXcwnjoncohRmoNFSZyXK2m/v5BAemJJanZqakFqUXxRaU5q8SFGJg5O qQbG3AUmB+bq7MhUqD2xuLEzSsG3Mut85cuEx27NxdMmHs9/eV/o+9pe9n3zlOMDi7KOzBGS m/PmygTXvottsTZL2X1uvWR+9+WTZcUuoWiLd87XKn8nn+eyiPBhvNTo2Mn5h6EgrnBlz77Z XFc/X7a7IChpUx+6lVEo5sz87I/3zE/v4vkZK6ejxFKckWioxVxUnAgAjlvxfVQCAAA= Subject: [CCAMP] New Version Notification for draft-cecczhang-ccamp-gmpls-g709v3-lmp-00.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:41:11 -0000 Dear CCAMPers interested in OTN LMP, The two exisitng OTN LMP drafts: - Test messages: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ceccarelli-ccamp-gmpls-g709= -lmp-test-04.txt - Discovery: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zhang-ccamp-gmpls-g709-lmp-di= scovery-06 Have been merged into a single ID as per chairs request and submitted as: draft-cecczhang-ccamp-gmpls-g709v3-lmp : http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-c= ecczhang-ccamp-gmpls-g709v3-lmp-00 Best regards, Daniele >-----Original Message----- >From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org]=20 >Sent: venerd=EC 12 ottobre 2012 15.27 >To: Daniele Ceccarelli >Cc: zhang.xian@huawei.com; sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.it;=20 >Diego Caviglia; zhangguoying@mail.ritt.com.cn;=20 >zhangfatai@huawei.com; dieter.beller@alcatel-lucent.com >Subject: New Version Notification for=20 >draft-cecczhang-ccamp-gmpls-g709v3-lmp-00.txt > > >A new version of I-D, draft-cecczhang-ccamp-gmpls-g709v3-lmp-00.txt >has been successfully submitted by Daniele Ceccarelli and=20 >posted to the IETF repository. > >Filename: draft-cecczhang-ccamp-gmpls-g709v3-lmp >Revision: 00 >Title: Link Management Protocol (LMP) extensions for=20 >G.709 Optical Transport Networks >Creation date: 2012-10-12 >WG ID: Individual Submission >Number of pages: 24 >URL: =20 >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-cecczhang-ccamp-gmpls -g709v3-lmp-00.txt >Status: =20 >http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cecczhang-ccamp-gmpls-g709v3-lmp >Htmlized: =20 >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cecczhang-ccamp-gmpls-g709v3-lmp-00 > > >Abstract: > Recent progress of the Optical Transport Network (OTN) has=20 >introduced > new signal types (i.e., ODU0, ODU4, ODU2e and ODUflex) and new > Tributary Slot granularity (1.25Gbps). > > Since equipments deployed prior to recently defined ITU-T > recommendations only support 2.5 Gbps Tributary Slot granularity and > ODU1, ODU2 and ODU3 containers, the compatibility problem should be > considered. In addition, a Higher Order ODU (HO ODU) link may not > support all the types of Lower Order ODU (LO ODU) signals defined by > the new OTN standard because of the limitation of the devices at the > two ends of a link. In these cases, the control plane is required to > run the capability discovering functions for the evolutive OTN. > > This document describes the extensions to the Link Management > Protocol (LMP) needed to discover the capability of HO ODU link, > including the granularity of Tributary Slot to be used and=20 >the LO ODU > signal types that the link can support. Moreover, extensions of LMP > test messages detailing the OTN technology specific information in > order to cover also G.709v3 signal types and containers are also > provided. > > > =20 > =20 > > >The IETF Secretariat > >= From dromasca@avaya.com Sun Oct 14 04:39:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EDE21F847D; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 04:39:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.842 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.842 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.243, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wBi3FbY71998; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 04:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com (p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com [135.11.29.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE3821F8455; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 04:39:14 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EAISjelCHCzI1/2dsb2JhbABFv3GBCIIgAQEBAQIBEh4KOAwNARUVBgwMB1cBBAEaGoVugW4GoBmbdpE2YAOSO4k1iiyCb4Fh X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,584,1344225600"; d="scan'208";a="31499991" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 14 Oct 2012 07:31:29 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.10]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 14 Oct 2012 07:16:54 -0400 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 13:39:11 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OPS-DIR review of draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib-14 Thread-Index: Ac2qAIeNeJPCVFZlQRa0gUyIbefUrQ== From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: , , X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 07:28:30 -0700 Subject: [CCAMP] OPS-DIR review of draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib-14 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 11:39:16 -0000 Hi, This is the OPS-DIR review of draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ted-mib-14.=20 OPS-DIR reviews use RFC 5706 as guidelines. See Appendix A for a checklist of issues typically reviewed. Note that not all issues apply to all documents.=20 This document defines a MIB module. Note that this review is an OPS-DIR review and not a MIB Doctor review.=20 I believe that the document is useful from an operational and manageability point of view, and is ready for approval. The issues raised below if addressed can improved the quality of the document, but none is blocking. As written the document seems to be more addressed to implementers and less to users, expanding the example from the perspective of the operator using this MIB module would be a good thing (see comment #4) that would ease deployment.=20 This MIB module exposes traffic engineering database (TED) topology information for MPLS-TE and GMPLS. Most of the MIB objects are read-only with the exception of the objects configuring the sending of notifications.=20 Comments:=20 1. In Section 2:=20 > This MIB module should be used in conjunction with OSPFv2 MIB, OSPF=20 v3 MIB and ISIS MIB as well as other MIBs defined in [RFC3812],=20 [RFC3813], [RFC4802], [RFC4803] for the management of MPLS/GMPLS=20 based traffic engineering information. =20 It would have been useful to develop this a section that explains the relation of the TED-MIB with other MIB modules that model MPLS-TE and GMPLS devices. Are all these MIB modules required on the same device at the same time? Being more precise here would help implementers and switch designers in planning the resources required to implement and run this MIB module.=20 2. Runing id-nits results in a number of warnings related to unused references:=20 =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC2328' is defined on line 1552, but no explicit reference was found in the text '[RFC2328] J. Moy, " OSPF version2 ", RFC2328, April 1998....' =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC4001' is defined on line 1566, but no explicit reference was found in the text '[RFC4001] M. Daniele, B. Haberman, S. Routhier, J. Schoenwaelder, "...' =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC4801' is defined on line 1579, but no explicit reference was found in the text '[RFC4801] T. D. Nadeau and A. Farrel, Ed., "Definitions of Textual C...' =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC5340' is defined on line 1587, but no explicit reference was found in the text '[RFC5340] R. Coltun, D. Ferguson, J. Moy, A.Lindem " OSPF for IPv6",...' =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC6340' is defined on line 1593, but no explicit reference was found in the text '[RFC6340] R. Presuhn, "Textual Conventions for the Representation of...' =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'ISO10589' is defined on line 1596, but no explicit reference was found in the text '[ISO10589] ISO 10589, "Intermediate system to Intermediate system ro...' =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC4220' is defined on line 1625, but no explicit reference was found in the text '[RFC4220] M. Dubuc, T. D. Nadeau and J. Lang, " Traffic Engineering...' =20 Actually the references are used, but they appear in the DESCRIPTION or REFERENCE clauses in the MIB module, and in a format (no brakets) that makes them to pass undetected by id-nits. It would be useful to group at lease the references that contain MIB modules in a short section prior to the MIB module, so that implmenters and operators deploying the MIB have an easy access to the documents that indicate what MIB modules need to be compiled or loaded together with the TED-MIB. Add to these RFC4802 mentioned in the IMPORTS. =20 3. The example provided in section 6 is ipv4 only. It would be useful to add an ipv6 example.=20 4. Expanding the example to detail what would be a typical or recommended operational flow used by an operator when working with the MIB module would have been useful. How is the MIB modules supposed to be used. What an operator can do with this MIB module? Download the topology? How often? Verify that the switch was properly configured and debug problems in the network using the objects in the tedTable, tedRemoteTable and tedSwCapTable? What is the functionality and how can be used the tedSrlgTable?=20 5. Notifications throttling is discussed and implemented and this is a good thing. However, there is a potential issue here. The notifications tedEntryCreated and tedENtryDeleted are supposed to be sent when an entry was created or deleted in the TED table. However, the writeable object that sets the notifications rate is set by default at 1 notification/minute, a value that many operators will leave as is. This means that whenever more than one row is created or deleted in one minute, just one notification will be sent. I think that an explicit warning should be included about this situation, so that operators are aware that in order to make sure that all changes were detected when a notification was received, the whole table needs to be traversed.=20 6. There is no indication or hints to the operators about using the objects in this MIB module for faults management or alerting about the status of the network. For example can the tedUnreservedBandwidth per priority objects be used to detect problems in capacity or in configuration?=20 Regards, Dan From cyril.margaria@nsn.com Mon Oct 15 00:26:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2439721F8628 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 00:26:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.11 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mzeMes-5I+nH for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 00:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (demumfd001.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.32]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD7221F8624 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 00:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.55]) by demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q9F7QKBc030994 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:26:20 +0200 Received: from demuexc022.nsn-intra.net (demuexc022.nsn-intra.net [10.150.128.35]) by demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q9F7QEDE019378; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:26:18 +0200 Received: from DEMUEXC013.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.128.24]) by demuexc022.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:26:17 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:24:17 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WGdocument Thread-Index: Ac2gGVWYHc3eSu9jR8ykDE5sjWSBrwKjL2Jg References: From: "Margaria, Cyril (NSN - DE/Munich)" To: "ext BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2012 07:26:17.0664 (UTC) FILETIME=[5DAEC400:01CDAAA6] X-purgate-type: clean X-purgate-Ad: Categorized by eleven eXpurgate (R) http://www.eleven.de X-purgate: clean X-purgate: This mail is considered clean (visit http://www.eleven.de for further information) X-purgate-size: 887 X-purgate-ID: 151667::1350285981-000048BF-6059B14E/0-0/0-0 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WGdocument X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:26:27 -0000 Yes/support Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen Cyril Margaria > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of ext BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 11:12 PM > To: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a > WGdocument >=20 > All, >=20 > This is to start a two week poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps- > update a ccamp working group document. Please send mail to the list > indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, > please state your technical reservations with the document. >=20 > The poll ends Monday Oct 15. >=20 > Thanks, > Deborah (and Lou) >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From dave.mcdysan@verizon.com Mon Oct 15 08:58:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4931F0C44 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:58:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oOjQsAYu2KAM for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fldsmtpe01.verizon.com (fldsmtpe01.verizon.com [140.108.26.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5181F042B for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:58:36 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi03.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.145]) by fldsmtpe01.verizon.com with ESMTP; 15 Oct 2012 15:58:36 +0000 From: "Mcdysan, David E" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,588,1344211200"; d="scan'208";a="346010391" Received: from fhdp1lumxc7hb03.verizon.com (HELO FHDP1LUMXC7HB03.us.one.verizon.com) ([166.68.59.190]) by fldsmtpi03.verizon.com with ESMTP; 15 Oct 2012 15:58:35 +0000 Received: from fhdp1lumxc7v11.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.59.148]) by FHDP1LUMXC7HB03.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.59.190]) with mapi; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:58:35 -0400 To: "ccamp@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:58:32 -0400 Thread-Topic: [mpls] FW: New Version Notification for draft-fuxh-mpls-delay-loss-te-problem-statement-00.txt Thread-Index: Ac2q7e6NuEMPQOpeSkCPPRwD5d0M4w== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [CCAMP] FW: [mpls] FW: New Version Notification for draft-fuxh-mpls-delay-loss-te-problem-statement-00.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:58:37 -0000 Resending ... my Email sender picked an invalid ccamp address. Dave On 10/15/12 11:54 AM, "Mcdysan, David E" wrote: >Hi, > >This draft has been submitted in response to the comments from the >MPLS-RT.=20 > >We have requested time to present it in the mpls wg in Atlanta. > >There was some discussion that some aspects may be of interest to cccamp, >so I am cross posting to that list. > >Thanks, > >Dave > >On 10/15/12 11:52 AM, "internet-drafts@ietf.org" > wrote: > >> >>A new version of I-D, >>draft-fuxh-mpls-delay-loss-te-problem-statement-00.txt >>has been successfully submitted by Dave McDysan and posted to the >>IETF repository. >> >>Filename: draft-fuxh-mpls-delay-loss-te-problem-statement >>Revision: 00 >>Title: Delay and Loss Traffic Engineering Problem Statement for MPLS >>Creation date: 2012-10-15 >>WG ID: Individual Submission >>Number of pages: 14 >>URL: =20 >>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-fuxh-mpls-delay-loss-te-problem >>- >>statement-00.txt >>Status: =20 >>http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fuxh-mpls-delay-loss-te-problem-sta >>t >>ement >>Htmlized: =20 >>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fuxh-mpls-delay-loss-te-problem-statemen >>t >>-00 >> >> >>Abstract: >> Deployment and usage of cloud based applications and services that use >> an underlying MPLS network are expanding and an increasing number of >> applications are extremely sensitive to delay and packet loss. >> Furthermore, in cloud computing an additional decision problem arises >>of >> simultaneously choosing the data center to host applications along >>with >> MPLS network connectivity such that the overall performance of the >> application is met. Existing mechanisms exist to measure and monitor >> MPLS path performance parameters for packet loss and delay, but only >> after the path has been setup. These cloud-based and performance >> sensitive applications would benefit from measurement of MPLS network >> and potential path information that would be provided for use in the >> computation and selection of LSPs. >> >> This document provides a statement of problems faced by these cloud >> based and performance sensitive applications and describes >>requirements >> to enable the efficient and accurate measurement of the MPLS network >>and >> allow new performance parameters to be reported and used in the >> computation of MPLS services in support of these cloud based and >> performance sensitive applications. >> >> =20 >> =20 >> >> >>The IETF Secretariat >> > >_______________________________________________ >mpls mailing list >mpls@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From dave.mcdysan@verizon.com Mon Oct 15 13:03:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BB821F870A; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:03:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hBkRo2h8fmi0; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fldsmtpe03.verizon.com (fldsmtpe03.verizon.com [140.108.26.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3B321F84B8; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:03:36 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi01.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.143]) by fldsmtpe03.verizon.com with ESMTP; 15 Oct 2012 20:03:26 +0000 From: "Mcdysan, David E" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,590,1344211200"; d="scan'208";a="350664171" Received: from fhdp1lumxc7hb04.verizon.com (HELO FHDP1LUMXC7HB04.us.one.verizon.com) ([166.68.59.191]) by fldsmtpi01.verizon.com with ESMTP; 15 Oct 2012 20:03:26 +0000 Received: from fhdp1lumxc7v11.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.59.148]) by FHDP1LUMXC7HB04.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.59.191]) with mapi; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:03:26 -0400 To: Mpls , "ccamp@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:03:19 -0400 Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-fuxh-mpls-delay-loss-te-problem-statement-01.txt Thread-Index: Ac2rECJnceNkDFGRRoCdd9B9z6BUfA== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20121015192723.11031.60174.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [CCAMP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-fuxh-mpls-delay-loss-te-problem-statement-01.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:03:39 -0000 Version with some updated text in sections 1-3. Dave On 10/15/12 3:27 PM, "internet-drafts@ietf.org" wrote: > >A new version of I-D, >draft-fuxh-mpls-delay-loss-te-problem-statement-01.txt >has been successfully submitted by Dave McDysan and posted to the >IETF repository. > >Filename: draft-fuxh-mpls-delay-loss-te-problem-statement >Revision: 01 >Title: Delay and Loss Traffic Engineering Problem Statement for MPLS >Creation date: 2012-10-15 >WG ID: Individual Submission >Number of pages: 14 >URL: =20 >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-fuxh-mpls-delay-loss-te-problem- >statement-01.txt >Status: =20 >http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fuxh-mpls-delay-loss-te-problem-stat >ement >Htmlized: =20 >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fuxh-mpls-delay-loss-te-problem-statement >-01 >Diff: =20 >http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-fuxh-mpls-delay-loss-te-problem-s= ta >tement-01 > >Abstract: > Deployment and usage of cloud based applications and services that use > an underlying MPLS network are expanding and an increasing number of > applications are extremely sensitive to delay and packet loss. > Furthermore, in cloud computing an additional decision problem arises >of > simultaneously choosing the data center to host applications along with > MPLS network connectivity such that the overall performance of the > application is met. Mechanisms exist to measure and monitor MPLS path > performance parameters for packet loss and delay, but the mechanisms > work only after the path has been setup. The cloud-based and >performance > sensitive applications would benefit from measurement of MPLS network > and potential path information that would be provided for use in the > computation before LSP setup and then the selection of LSPs. > > This document provides a statement of problems faced by these cloud > based and performance sensitive applications and describes requirements > to enable the efficient and accurate measurement of the MPLS network. > This also allows new performance parameters to be reported and used in > the computation of MPLS services in support of these cloud based and > performance sensitive applications. > > =20 > =20 >Replacement for -00 version to include additional/revised material. > >The IETF Secretariat > From larryli888@yahoo.com.cn Mon Oct 15 23:44:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E68921F8940 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:44:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.404 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.404 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.294, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3K1gcBVfNyrh for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nm26-vm1.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com (nm26-vm1.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com [106.10.151.112]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6F021F8928 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [106.10.166.127] by nm26.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2012 06:44:30 -0000 Received: from [106.10.151.139] by tm16.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2012 06:44:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2012 06:44:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 317565.14483.bm@omp1007.mail.sg3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 35637 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Oct 2012 06:44:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com.cn; s=s1024; t=1350369868; bh=uqjYu1ezZxuv01Cu3zZr7loA1mqHK07i77SCC15drfM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QD5v0bDc65rCuwdGkiFwNFmzCGf1aePiikSsZ1QFgcZ0ynEDb6+s01GWGU2+4BCA+JZPgc7ig4sPYlzqszBtLhqFRniJvDXtmNxC1kJdvi+X+U9xGdiR/coN/JZE02hRYW4v1/3u2k/cozG36hssN/RFYnO7AlqHT7W06OXvTgk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.cn; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=kgTPD1qShW4TBNU622F2jB2VNDBfMuJs7F1XsFDiDrDx/A/qGSIaCH8+Nc4nsHPB+1EwoZAYdcNPD7Rt4bHqkdPiDI5A3aoGu7rknP5JKdVHOQUeC5cJBizbCRD0jPa0mZRztyS8+rUx3DTuEDGzdhzQgwC3W6dz/dxbeUJFy1A=; X-YMail-OSG: QA.aH5EVM1kii4mrQ7HALFRkoz4VBVCVZf1uC54bY03pKO1 w3kZUVYy4wwQZ2mmypjIN.i23obI.gm2VXGEl2ovGUW8t0YyhVyVWJQ6ZHmn szNbKpv1ZH4ra.kk7KalR.fBARm7pREywtd8N2Si_iWbrQim.9YdtACl3DC. Nje9HElZ6NUYlSYESjFbVeFNh72t.B.LjRokmlJzDbKepZKbHWapeUQfIXCn _3LqVIKO_WuMYzC9siutp6wcwJheISums.pEJvx4gJJDwlK0CWjw5BSqZIkH .Qu0UVkD7cioGGEqJYc.on1UDRTJDGhDO27CNcVlAuqAxJ7MZAX0oonV5Bya fk153JQtKzRjY0P2XQ7jLHxHN89tfk9tG5LTMFoPpph4ZK6W0WMnCOrTJh.X RAyLi8UhpqH19Oyi9OEupWZ9XBsiMy5lANUKvPWHIM74u53_jWj2FGBsGvSf H Received: from [221.130.253.135] by web15607.mail.cnb.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:44:28 CST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, QWxsLAoKSSBkb24ndCBrbm93IGlmIHlvdSBnb3QgbXkgZW1haWwgZnJvbSBsaWhhbkBjaGluYW1vYmlsZS5jb20uIFNvIEkgdXNlIHRoaXMgYm94IHRvIHNlbmQgaXQgYWdhaW4uCgpJJ20gbm90IGF3YXJlIG9mIGFueSBwYXRlbnQuIFRoYW5rIHlvdSEKCkJlc3QgcmVnYXJkcywKCiAgICAgICAgICAgICBIYW4gTGkKCioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioKSGFuIExpLCBQaC5EIApDaGluYSBNb2JpbGUgUmVzZWFyY2gBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 Message-ID: <1350369868.29413.YahooMailClassic@web15607.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:44:28 +0800 (CST) From: Larry To: " PIETRO VITTORIO \(PIETRO VITTORIO\)GRANDI" , Lou Berger , "zhangfatai@huawei.com" , "huawei.danli@huawei.com" , "lihan@chinamobile.com" , " SERGIO \(SERGIO\)BELOTTI" , "daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com" , "hanjianrui@huawei.com" , "malcolm.betts@huawei.com" , " Eve L \(Eve\)Varma" In-Reply-To: <6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D80982CA3C@US70UWXCHMBA05.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 06:44:34 -0000 All,=0A=0AI don't know if you got my email from lihan@chinamobile.com. So I= use this box to send it again.=0A=0AI'm not aware of any patent. Thank you= !=0A=0ABest regards,=0A=0A Han Li=0A=0A************************= *************************************************=0AHan Li, Ph.D =0AChina M= obile Research Institute=0A32 Xuanwumen West Street, Xicheng District, Beij= ing 100053, China =0AFax: +86 10 63135159 =0AMOBILE: 13501093385 =0A*******= ******************************************************************=0A=0A=0A= --- 12=E5=B9=B410=E6=9C=8811=E6=97=A5=EF=BC=8C=E5=91=A8=E5=9B=9B, Varma, Ev= e L (Eve) =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A=0A=0A>= =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Varma, Eve L (Eve) =0A> =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-= gmpls-g709-framework=0A> =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: "GRANDI, PIETRO VITTO= RIO (PIETRO VITTORIO)" , "Lou Be= rger" , "zhangfatai@huawei.com" , = "huawei.danli@huawei.com" , "lihan@chinamobile.com= " , "BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)" , "daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com" , "hanjianrui@huawei.com" , "malcolm.betts@h= uawei.com" =0A> =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: "CCAMP" =0A> =E6=97=A5=E6=9C=9F: 2012=E5=B9=B410=E6=9C=8811=E6=97=A5,=E5= =91=A8=E5=9B=9B,=E4=B8=8B=E5=8D=889:47=0A> Hi Lou,=0A> =0A> Nor I.=0A> =0A>= Best regards,=0A> Eve=0A> =0A> -----Original Message-----=0A> From: GRANDI= , PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO) =0A> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9= :46 AM=0A> To: Lou Berger; zhangfatai@huawei.com;=0A> huawei.danli@huawei.c= om;=0A> lihan@chinamobile.com;=0A> BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO); daniele.ceccar= elli@ericsson.com;=0A> hanjianrui@huawei.com;=0A> malcolm.betts@huawei.com;= =0A> Varma, Eve L (Eve)=0A> Cc: CCAMP=0A> Subject: RE: [CCAMP] Regarding IP= R on=0A> draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework=0A> =0A> Hello Lou,=0A> =0A>= I am not aware of any patent=0A> =0A> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A> Pietro Vittorio Grandi=0A> Terrestrial Optics Por= tfolio Evolution=0A> Alcatel-Lucent Vimercate (Italy)=0A> Tel: +39 039 686 = 4930=0A> Mail: pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com=0A> =3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A> Put your hand on a hot st= ove for a minute, and it seems like=0A> an hour.=0A> Sit with a pretty girl= for an hour, and it seems like=0A> a=C2=A0 minute. That's relativity.=0A> = (A. Einstein)=0A> =0A> -----Original Message-----=0A> From: Lou Berger [mai= lto:lberger@labn.net]=0A> =0A> Sent: gioved=C3=AC 11 ottobre 2012 15.38=0A>= To: zhangfatai@huawei.com;=0A> huawei.danli@huawei.com;=0A> lihan@chinamob= ile.com;=0A> BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO); daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com;=0A>= hanjianrui@huawei.com;=0A> malcolm.betts@huawei.com;=0A> GRANDI, PIETRO VI= TTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO); Varma, Eve L=0A> (Eve)=0A> Cc: CCAMP=0A> Subject:= Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on=0A> draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework=0A>= =0A> =0A> In my first message, I missed the following contributors=0A> ide= ntified in=0A> the draft:=0A> =0A> Pietro Grandi =0A> Eve Varma =0A> =0A> IPR = statements are also needed from these contributors.=0A> =0A> Thank you,=0A>= Lou=0A> =0A> On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote:=0A> > Authors, Contr= ibutors, (CCAMP)=0A> > =0A> > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call:= =0A> > =0A> > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to=0A> > draft-ietf-cca= mp-gmpls-g709-framework?=0A> > =0A> > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in= compliance with=0A> IETF IPR rules=0A> > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 53= 78 for more details)?=0A> > =0A> > If you are listed as a document author o= r contributor=0A> please answer the=0A> > above by responding to this email= regardless of whether=0A> or not you are=0A> > aware of any relevant IPR.= =C2=A0 This document will not=0A> advance to the next=0A> > stage until a r= esponse has been received from each=0A> author and listed=0A> > contributor= .=C2=A0 NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU=0A> LISTED IN THIS=0A> > MESSAGE'S= TO LINES.=0A> > =0A> > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not= =0A> listed as an author or=0A> > contributor, we remind you of your obliga= tions under=0A> the IETF IPR rules=0A> > which encourages you to notify the= IETF if you are=0A> aware of IPR of=0A> > others on an IETF contribution, = or to refrain from=0A> participating in any=0A> > contribution or discussio= n related to your undisclosed=0A> IPR.=C2=A0 For more=0A> > information, pl= ease see the RFCs listed above and=0A> > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/i= esg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.=0A> > =0A> > Thank you,=0A> > CCAMP WG = Chairs=0A> > =0A> > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this=0A>= message in your=0A> > response.=0A> > ____________________________________= ___________=0A> > CCAMP mailing list=0A> > CCAMP@ietf.org=0A> > https://www= .ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> __________= _____________________________________=0A> CCAMP mailing list=0A> CCAMP@ietf= .org=0A> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp=0A> From db3546@att.com Tue Oct 16 07:16:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD37E21F88B2 for ; 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The document has good support as a working gro= up document. Authors, please upload the document as draft-ietf-ccamp-swcaps-update. Thanks, Deborah -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of B= RUNGARD, DEBORAH A Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 5:12 PM To: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update a WG docum= ent *** Security Advisory: This Message Originated Outside of AT&T ***. Reference http://cso.att.com/EmailSecurity/IDSP.html for more information. All, This is to start a two week poll on making draft-berger-ccamp-swcaps-update= a ccamp working group document. Please send mail to the list indicating "y= es/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your tec= hnical reservations with the document. The poll ends Monday Oct 15. Thanks, Deborah (and Lou) _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From internet-drafts@ietf.org Tue Oct 16 07:20:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC45E21F8952; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:20:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.566 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.566 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.033, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x-IzJQ2EPrqv; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE6321F87D4; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:20:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121016142033.22908.90.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:20:33 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-swcaps-update-00.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:20:35 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Work= ing Group of the IETF. Title : Revised Definition of The GMPLS Switching Capability and= Type Fields Author(s) : Lou Berger Julien Meuric Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-swcaps-update-00.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2012-10-15 Abstract: GMPLS provides control for multiple switching technologies, and hierarchical switching within a technology. GMPLS routing and signaling use common values to indicate switching technology type. These values are carried in routing in the Switching Capability field, and in signaling in the Switching Type field. While the values using in these fields are the primary indicators of the technology and hierarchy level being controlled, the values are not consistently defined and used across the different technologies supported by GMPLS. This document is intended to resolve the inconsistent definition and use of the Switching Capability and Type fields by narrowly scoping the meaning and use of the fields. This document updates any document that uses the GMPLS Switching Capability and Types fields, in particular RFC 3471, RFC 4202, RFC 4203, and RFC 5307. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-swcaps-update There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-swcaps-update-00 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From prvs=5636ee0160=lyong@ciena.com Tue Oct 16 08:10:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042CB21F8679 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:10:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.764 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.764 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.500, BAYES_00=-2.599, EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n0PfUH59XQS2 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com (mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com [67.231.144.234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202A821F864D for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0000419 [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q9GFAB27015452; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:10:13 -0400 Received: from mdwexght01.ciena.com (LIN1-118-36-28.ciena.com [63.118.36.28]) by mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 1819jdr49w-3 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:10:13 -0400 Received: from MDWEXGMB02.ciena.com ([::1]) by MDWEXGHT01.ciena.com ([::1]) with mapi; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:10:10 -0400 From: "Ong, Lyndon" To: Dieter Beller , Lou Berger , CCAMP , Deborah Brungard Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:10:08 -0400 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents Thread-Index: Ac2mZqrBkchwVayzRX+nRPC9TEgZCAD53wlg Message-ID: References: <506AFA9B.2000508@labn.net> <5074999C.8020400@alcatel-lucent.com> In-Reply-To: <5074999C.8020400@alcatel-lucent.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.0.0.1412-7.000.1014-19276.007 x-tm-as-result: No--53.147300-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_004_A0B4FC0A5EFBD44585414760DB4FD274FF8C8AEFMDWEXGMB02ciena_"; type="multipart/alternative" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-10-16_05:2012-10-16, 2012-10-16, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1210160143 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:10:39 -0000 --_004_A0B4FC0A5EFBD44585414760DB4FD274FF8C8AEFMDWEXGMB02ciena_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_A0B4FC0A5EFBD44585414760DB4FD274FF8C8AEFMDWEXGMB02ciena_" --_000_A0B4FC0A5EFBD44585414760DB4FD274FF8C8AEFMDWEXGMB02ciena_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Deborah, Lou, I think Dieter makes some good arguments for making the documents Experimen= tal. We could use more feedback on any implementation and deployment, what datap= lane conditions are needed to make this work, impact (especially on routing= traffic), etc. Cheers, Lyndon From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-b= ounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dieter Beller Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 2:40 PM To: Lou Berger; CCAMP; Deborah Brungard Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents Hi Deborah, Lou, all, my answers in short: a. no b. no for all c. Experimental for all Please find some reasoning in-line below. Thanks, Dieter On 02.10.2012 16:30, Lou Berger wrote: CCAMP, The WG has several WSON-related drafts including: 1. draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode 2. draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te 3. draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode 4. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf 5. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling These drafts are currently identified as being on the Standards Track. The WG typically requests Standards Track publication of documents that fill/fix a clear protocol function and/or have strong WG support. Given the scope of this work as well as the time the drafts have been active in the WG, we'd like to solicit the WG's input on the publication track to be requested. Once the WG reaches consensus on these drafts (as indicated by a *future* WG last call), Standards Track publication can be requested or these drafts could also be published via a non-Standards Track, see section 4.2 of RFC2026 for all options. Please let us know (preferably by responding on the WG list) if you: a. Support targeting all of these documents for Standards Track publication? [yes/no] no - the major reason is that optical transponders from different vendors a= re typically not interoperable today. As long as data plane interoperability does not ex= ist, Standards Track does IMHO not really make sense for the WSON documents in question. b. If no, support targeting some of these documents for Standards Track publication? [1, yes/no 2, yes/no 3, yes/no 4, yes/no 5, yes/no] no for all. c. If no to any of the above, which status do you think appropriate? [Experimental or Informational] Experimental status for all Looking at the guidelines in http://www.ietf.org/iesg/informational-vs-expe= rimental.html guideline 4 is probably the most relevant one for these documents: Guideline 4: If the IETF may publish something based on this on the standards track once= we know how well this one works, it's Experimental. This is the typical case of not= being able to decide which protocol is "better" before we have experience of dealing w= ith them from a stable specification. d. Finally, we are most interested in hearing from anyone who has, or is planning an implementation based on the WG drafts. We understand that some may not want this information published, so please let any of the chairs and/or ADs know (Lou, Deborah, Adrian or Stewart), and they will publish the information without any personal or company identification. Keep in mind that this mail is *not* starting a WG last call on any of the documents identified above. We'd like input on intended publication status prior to any last call discussion. Lou and Deborah _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp -- [cid:image001.jpg@01CDAA13.B8BCE4A0] DIETER BELLER ALCATEL-LUCENT DEUTSCHLAND AG PROJECT MANAGER ASON/GMPLS CONTROL PLANE NETWORKS GROUP, OPTICS DIVISION TERRESTRIAL OPTICS UNIT Lorenzstrasse 10 70435 Stuttgart, Germany T: +49 711 821 43125 M: +49 175 7266874 Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucent.com Alcatel-Lucent Deutschland AG Domicile of the Company: Stuttgart =B7 Local Court Stuttgart HRB 4026 Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Michael Oppenhoff Board of Management: Wilhelm Dresselhaus (Chairman) =B7 Hans-J=F6rg Daub = =B7 Dr. Rainer Fechner =B7 Andreas Gehe --_000_A0B4FC0A5EFBD44585414760DB4FD274FF8C8AEFMDWEXGMB02ciena_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= Hi Deborah, Lou,

<= o:p> 

I think Dieter makes= some good arguments for making the documents Experimental.

We could use more feedback on any impleme= ntation and deployment, what dataplane conditions are needed to make this w= ork, impact (especially on routing traffic), etc.

 

Cheers,

 

Lyndon

 

From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dieter = Beller
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 2:40 PM
To: Lou = Berger; CCAMP; Deborah Brungard
Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input on pub= lication track of WSON solutions documents

 

Hi De= borah, Lou, all,

my answers in short:

a. no
b. no for all<= br>c. Experimental for all

Please find some reasoning in-line below.=


Thanks,
Dieter

On 02.10.2012 16:30, Lou Berger wrote:

CCAMP,
 
The WG has several WSON-related drafts inclu=
ding:
=A0=A0 1. draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-en=
code
=A0=A0 2. draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constrai=
nts-ospf-te
=A0=A0 3. draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode=

=A0=A0 4. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-=
ospf  
=A0=A0=A05. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling
 
These drafts are currently id=
entified as being on the Standards
Track.=A0 The WG ty=
pically requests Standards Track publication of
docume=
nts that fill/fix a clear protocol function and/or have
strong WG support. Given the scope of this work as well as the= 
time the drafts have been active in the WG, we'd like to solicit=

the WG's input on the publication track to be request=
ed.
 
Once the WG reaches co=
nsensus on these drafts (as indicated by a
*future* WG=
 last call), Standards Track publication can be
reques=
ted or these drafts could also be published via a
non-=
Standards Track, see section 4.2 of RFC2026 for all options.
 
Please let us know (preferably by respon=
ding on the WG list) if you:
 
a. Support targeting all of these documents for Standards Track
=A0=A0 publication?
=A0 [yes/no]

no - the major reason is that opt= ical transponders from different vendors are typically
not interoperable= today. As long as data plane interoperability does not exist, StandardsTrack does IMHO not really make sense for the WSON documents in question.<= br>

 
b. If no, support ta=
rgeting some of these documents for Standards
=A0=A0 T=
rack publication?
=A0 [1, yes/no
=
=A0=A0 2, yes/no
=A0=A0 3, yes/no
=A0=A0 4, yes/no
=A0=A0 5, yes/no]
no for all.

 =

c. If no to any of the above, which status do you think appropri=
ate?
=A0 [Experimental or Informational]
Experimental status for all

Looking at the g=
uidelines in http://www.ietf.org/iesg/informational-vs-experim=
ental.html
guideline 4 is probably the most relevant one for these d=
ocuments:


Guideline 4:

If the IETF may publish something based on this on the stan=
dards track once we know
=
how well this one works, it's E=
xperimental. This is the typical case of not being able
to decide which protocol is "better" bef=
ore we have experience of dealing with them from
a stable specification.


d. Finally, we are most interested in hearing from anyone who has,
=A0=A0 or is planning an implementation based on the WG draft=
s.=A0 We
=A0=A0 understand that some may not want this=
 information published,
=A0=A0 so please let any of th=
e chairs and/or ADs know (Lou,
=A0=A0 Deborah, Adrian =
or Stewart), and they will publish the
=A0=A0 informat=
ion without any personal or company identification.
 
Keep in mind that this mail is *not* starting a W=
G last call on
any of the documents identified above.=
=A0 We'd like input on
intended publication status pri=
or to any last call discussion.
 
Lou and Deborah
________________________________=
_______________
CCAMP mailing list
CCAMP@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.o= rg/mailman/listinfo/ccamp

&nb= sp;

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DIETER BELLER

ALCATEL-LUCENT DEUTSCHLAND AG
PROJECT MANA= GER ASON/GMPLS CONTROL PLANE
NETWORKS GROUP, OPTICS DIVISION
TERRESTR= IAL OPTICS UNIT

Lorenzstrasse 10
70435 Stuttgart, Germany
T: += 49 711 821 43125
M: +49 175 7266874
Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucent.com

Alcatel-Lucent Deutschland AG
Domicile of the Company: Stuttgart = =B7 Local Court Stuttgart HRB 4026
Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Mi= chael Oppenhoff
Board of Management: Wilhelm Dresselhaus (Chairman) =B7 = Hans-J=F6rg Daub =B7
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From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CCAMP References: <506AFA9B.2000508@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <506AFA9B.2000508@labn.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:43:00 -0000 We'd like to thank all who have provided input on this topic, both on list and privately. We believe we have received sufficient input for these documents to continue towards publication on the standards track. The primary foundation for our position is the multiple implementations that have been reported privately. While we certainly would have preferred to see these implementations reported on the WG list, we respect the sensitivity of such information. The next step for these documents is the completion of the technical work, notably the expected revision of the signaling draft. Once this update is discussed, we expect to move to last call of the WSON documents as a group. Thank you, Lou and Deborah On 10/2/2012 10:30 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > CCAMP, > > The WG has several WSON-related drafts including: > 1. draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode > 2. draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te > 3. draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode > 4. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf > 5. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling > > These drafts are currently identified as being on the Standards > Track. The WG typically requests Standards Track publication of > documents that fill/fix a clear protocol function and/or have > strong WG support. Given the scope of this work as well as the > time the drafts have been active in the WG, we'd like to solicit > the WG's input on the publication track to be requested. > > Once the WG reaches consensus on these drafts (as indicated by a > *future* WG last call), Standards Track publication can be > requested or these drafts could also be published via a > non-Standards Track, see section 4.2 of RFC2026 for all options. > > Please let us know (preferably by responding on the WG list) if you: > > a. Support targeting all of these documents for Standards Track > publication? > [yes/no] > > b. If no, support targeting some of these documents for Standards > Track publication? > [1, yes/no > 2, yes/no > 3, yes/no > 4, yes/no > 5, yes/no] > > c. If no to any of the above, which status do you think appropriate? > [Experimental or Informational] > > d. Finally, we are most interested in hearing from anyone who has, > or is planning an implementation based on the WG drafts. We > understand that some may not want this information published, > so please let any of the chairs and/or ADs know (Lou, > Deborah, Adrian or Stewart), and they will publish the > information without any personal or company identification. > > Keep in mind that this mail is *not* starting a WG last call on > any of the documents identified above. We'd like input on > intended publication status prior to any last call discussion. > > Lou and Deborah > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > From prvs=5636ee0160=lyong@ciena.com Tue Oct 16 14:45:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9070B21F8771 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:45:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.015 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.015 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.250, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9FtRseT1ZU4c for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com (mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com [67.231.144.234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9A11F0424 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0000419 [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q9GLegch017776; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:45:08 -0400 Received: from mdwexght01.ciena.com (LIN1-118-36-28.ciena.com [63.118.36.28]) by mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 181fnar0qm-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:45:07 -0400 Received: from MDWVEXCHHT01.ciena.com (10.4.156.175) by MDWEXGHT01.ciena.com (10.4.140.138) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.279.1; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:45:08 -0400 Received: from MDWEXGMB02.ciena.com ([::1]) by MDWVEXCHHT01.ciena.com ([10.4.156.175]) with mapi; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:45:08 -0400 From: "Ong, Lyndon" To: Lou Berger , CCAMP Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:44:59 -0400 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents Thread-Index: Ac2rzhbN4fG5L8YmSPmXetjvbo7laAAF4NJQ Message-ID: References: <506AFA9B.2000508@labn.net> <507DAA96.6070400@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <507DAA96.6070400@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-10.0.0.1412-7.000.1014-19278.001 X-TM-AS-Result: No--30.949400-8.000000-31 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-10-16_06:2012-10-16, 2012-10-16, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1210160273 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:45:09 -0000 Hi Lou, I find the part about private reports very confusing. If people have imple= mented an IETF WG draft, why do they keep it private? Shouldn't it be a po= sitive development to say that you have implemented a WG draft? Keeping it private seems like it withholds information that would help peop= le understand better how to use the drafts, or show more clearly that these= drafts are usable. Are these dataplane as well as control plane implement= ations? In what kind of environment have these been successfully deployed?= Were these multi-vendor or single vendor deployments? Cheers, Lyndon -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of L= ou Berger Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:43 AM To: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents We'd like to thank all who have provided input on this topic, both on list = and privately. We believe we have received sufficient input for these documents to continu= e towards publication on the standards track. The primary foundation for our position is the multiple implementations tha= t have been reported privately. While we certainly would have preferred to= see these implementations reported on the WG list, we respect the sensitiv= ity of such information. The next step for these documents is the completion of the technical work, = notably the expected revision of the signaling draft. Once this update is d= iscussed, we expect to move to last call of the WSON documents as a group. Thank you, Lou and Deborah On 10/2/2012 10:30 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > CCAMP, >=20 > The WG has several WSON-related drafts including: > 1. draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode > 2. draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te > 3. draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode > 4. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf =09 > 5. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling >=20 > These drafts are currently identified as being on the Standards Track. =20 > The WG typically requests Standards Track publication of documents=20 > that fill/fix a clear protocol function and/or have strong WG support.=20 > Given the scope of this work as well as the time the drafts have been=20 > active in the WG, we'd like to solicit the WG's input on the=20 > publication track to be requested. >=20 > Once the WG reaches consensus on these drafts (as indicated by a > *future* WG last call), Standards Track publication can be requested=20 > or these drafts could also be published via a non-Standards Track, see=20 > section 4.2 of RFC2026 for all options. >=20 > Please let us know (preferably by responding on the WG list) if you: >=20 > a. Support targeting all of these documents for Standards Track > publication? > [yes/no] >=20 > b. If no, support targeting some of these documents for Standards > Track publication? > [1, yes/no > 2, yes/no > 3, yes/no > 4, yes/no > 5, yes/no] >=20 > c. If no to any of the above, which status do you think appropriate? > [Experimental or Informational] >=20 > d. Finally, we are most interested in hearing from anyone who has, > or is planning an implementation based on the WG drafts. We > understand that some may not want this information published, > so please let any of the chairs and/or ADs know (Lou, > Deborah, Adrian or Stewart), and they will publish the > information without any personal or company identification. >=20 > Keep in mind that this mail is *not* starting a WG last call on any of=20 > the documents identified above. We'd like input on intended=20 > publication status prior to any last call discussion. >=20 > Lou and Deborah > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From lberger@labn.net Tue Oct 16 15:11:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F0D11E80D5 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:11:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.272 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.272 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.327, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UvKnl8OoAfIo for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy11-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy11-pub.bluehost.com [173.254.64.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 415911F0C80 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1051 invoked by uid 0); 16 Oct 2012 22:11:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy11.bluehost.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2012 22:11:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=4GwGyiq6HheZAUwGYE6kNyMAR93z+lTN03QttiIccQ0=; b=P2HPpFnK4Pc3AOFwH8YwfQd1cJRF5tADf1j3y6e7aghjExiU1ugfdaobipRqwe4CTrwXY98Jhal+UjWeli3hau5quLyHVIGkxoEna3oXim+3XngKOUWjXYrFcEJpsbYx; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:48383 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TOFME-0002eP-5F; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:11:26 -0600 Message-ID: <507DDB8A.7000406@labn.net> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:11:22 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ong, Lyndon" References: <506AFA9B.2000508@labn.net> <507DAA96.6070400@labn.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:11:52 -0000 Lyndon, As I stated in my mail, we also would have preferred public disclosure. But, we certainly can't compel folks to disclose their company information outside of IETF IPR rules, which does NOT cover implementation status. Anatomizing implementation status does have precedent in the IETF, for example see draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-survey. The purpose of the thread was to solicit input *to the WG chairs* on if, we in our role as as document shepherds, could justify recommending progressing the drafts according to the WG's position that these documents be published on the standards track. We believe we have sufficient information to answer this question. The routing ADs and IESG can of course challenge this position, as they have in the past. We now know how to respond, i.e., there are multiple reported implementations. We didn't prior to this discussion. WRT your other questions, we as a WG have not typically asked for or obtained such information prior to submitting a publication request to the IESG for Proposed Standard. This is well established practice for at least this WG. I certainly would expected that we would need to obtain such information for publication requests for documents with more advanced standards track maturity levels. I hope this addresses your questions. Lou On 10/16/2012 5:44 PM, Ong, Lyndon wrote: > Hi Lou, > > I find the part about private reports very confusing. If people have implemented an IETF WG draft, why do they keep it private? Shouldn't it be a positive development to say that you have implemented a WG draft? > > Keeping it private seems like it withholds information that would help people understand better how to use the drafts, or show more clearly that these drafts are usable. Are these dataplane as well as control plane implementations? In what kind of environment have these been successfully deployed? Were these multi-vendor or single vendor deployments? > > Cheers, > > Lyndon > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:43 AM > To: CCAMP > Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents > > > We'd like to thank all who have provided input on this topic, both on list and privately. > > We believe we have received sufficient input for these documents to continue towards publication on the standards track. > > The primary foundation for our position is the multiple implementations that have been reported privately. While we certainly would have preferred to see these implementations reported on the WG list, we respect the sensitivity of such information. > > The next step for these documents is the completion of the technical work, notably the expected revision of the signaling draft. Once this update is discussed, we expect to move to last call of the WSON documents as a group. > > Thank you, > Lou and Deborah > > On 10/2/2012 10:30 AM, Lou Berger wrote: >> CCAMP, >> >> The WG has several WSON-related drafts including: >> 1. draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode >> 2. draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te >> 3. draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode >> 4. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf >> 5. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling >> >> These drafts are currently identified as being on the Standards Track. >> The WG typically requests Standards Track publication of documents >> that fill/fix a clear protocol function and/or have strong WG support. >> Given the scope of this work as well as the time the drafts have been >> active in the WG, we'd like to solicit the WG's input on the >> publication track to be requested. >> >> Once the WG reaches consensus on these drafts (as indicated by a >> *future* WG last call), Standards Track publication can be requested >> or these drafts could also be published via a non-Standards Track, see >> section 4.2 of RFC2026 for all options. >> >> Please let us know (preferably by responding on the WG list) if you: >> >> a. Support targeting all of these documents for Standards Track >> publication? >> [yes/no] >> >> b. If no, support targeting some of these documents for Standards >> Track publication? >> [1, yes/no >> 2, yes/no >> 3, yes/no >> 4, yes/no >> 5, yes/no] >> >> c. If no to any of the above, which status do you think appropriate? >> [Experimental or Informational] >> >> d. Finally, we are most interested in hearing from anyone who has, >> or is planning an implementation based on the WG drafts. We >> understand that some may not want this information published, >> so please let any of the chairs and/or ADs know (Lou, >> Deborah, Adrian or Stewart), and they will publish the >> information without any personal or company identification. >> >> Keep in mind that this mail is *not* starting a WG last call on any of >> the documents identified above. We'd like input on intended >> publication status prior to any last call discussion. >> >> Lou and Deborah >> _______________________________________________ >> CCAMP mailing list >> CCAMP@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > From Pontus.Skoldstrom@acreo.se Wed Oct 17 04:24:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F6321F8786 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 04:24:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3fsgmvMU4dTL for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 04:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta1a-out-s9.mail.zscaler.net (mta1a-out-s9.mail.zscaler.net [216.218.133.243]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6B621F8782 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 04:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.acreo.se ([217.151.195.216]) by mta1a.mail.zscaler.net ([216.218.133.196]) with ESMTP id 507E956A10BF0002; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 04:24:26 -0700 Received: from acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se ([10.4.148.12]) by acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se ([10.4.148.12]) with mapi; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:18:21 +0200 From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Pontus_Sk=F6ldstr=F6m?= To: "ccamp@ietf.org" Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:18:20 +0200 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt Thread-Index: Ac2n4rTeO/WjUm8MTVGMBqw26N/4fwEdWfi7 Message-ID: <5F606CA13780E9419D0CFFE732DDACE12D0A886805@acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se> References: <20121007182354.19033.17145.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <5072FEC1.7020108@labn.net> <59AB558A089035438998A3EE6321ACBEAF72@ESESSMB203.ericsson.se>, <5077174E.8000407@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <5077174E.8000407@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Zscaler: score=0 iprep=0 Cc: "draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:24:27 -0000 Hi all,=20 Based on the comments from Lou we've made some minor updates to the text, c= hanges are shown in red/green at this link: http://diffchecker.com/7g8cJ8zI If there are any objections to these updates please let us know ASAP, if th= ere's no comments we'll upload the suggested changes later this week. Best regards,=20 Pontus Sk=F6ldstr=F6m, M.Sc. Research Scientist Netlab - Networking and Transmission Laboratory +46 8 632 7731 pontus.skoldstrom@acreo.se Acreo AB =96 Part of Swedish ICT Electrum 236, 164 40 Kista, Sweden www.acreo.se ________________________________________ From: Lou Berger [lberger@labn.net] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 21:00 To: Elisa Bellagamba Cc: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org= ; Pontus Sk=F6ldstr=F6m Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-0= 9.txt WG, Please review and comment on changes. See http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?difftype=3D--hwdiff&url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-r= svp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-10.txt Recall that this document is post WG LC. Elisa, Thank you for the update. Some comments. - Please review IDNITs and ensure that the document is clean, see http://tools.ietf.org/idnits?url=3Dhttp://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ccam= p-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-10.txt - Missing metrics: line 684 (using lines numbers from nits URL), - Threshold definition, lines 687/8: I really don't think these definitions are adequate to ensure consistent implementation. How about: Loss Threshold: indicates the MaxLMIntervalLoss threshold (measured in packets) as defined in [RFC6374]. - Line 742-4, Delay Threshold: is this one way or two way delay? I don't see how you can specify a default. - line 784, Refresh Timer. This should have a reference and perhaps just say "MUST carry the same value used in the Refresh Timer field defined in [rfc6427]." You might want to discuss your proposed changes on the list and get agreement before rev'ing the document again. Of course, rev numbers are cheap too... Lou On 10/11/2012 11:46 AM, Elisa Bellagamba wrote: > > Hi Lou, > > we have just uploaded version 10 which is inserting back the refresh time= r field in accordance with RFC 6427 and fixing the TBD values to the ones r= ecommended in RFC 6375. > > Thanks, > Elisa > > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of= Lou Berger > Sent: den 8 oktober 2012 18:27 > To: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext= -09.txt > > Authors, > I see you still have some default values called out as TBD. > Can you please send your proposed defaults to the WG so that we can ensur= e consensus on these? (Obviously, these need to be filled in before any pub= lication request.) > > Also, I see you removed the units from the Refresh Timer field. Was this= intentional? I think some unit of measure is needed. > > Thanks, > Lou > > On 10/7/2012 2:23 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direc= tories. >> This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane W= orking Group of the IETF. >> >> Title : Configuration of Pro-Active Operations, Administr= ation, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for MPLS-based Transport Networks us= ing RSVP-TE >> Author(s) : Elisa Bellagamba >> Loa Andersson >> Pontus Skoldstrom >> Dave Ward >> Attila Takacs >> Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt >> Pages : 22 >> Date : 2012-10-07 >> >> Abstract: >> This specification describes the configuration of pro-active MPLS-TP >> Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for a >> given LSP using a set of TLVs that are carried by the RSVP-TE >> protocol. >> >> This document is a product of a joint Internet Engineering Task Force >> (IETF) / International Telecommunication Union Telecommunication >> Standardization Sector (ITU-T) effort to include an MPLS Transport >> Profile within the IETF MPLS and PWE3 architectures to support the >> capabilities and functionalities of a packet transport network. >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam- >> ext >> >> There's also a htmlized version available at: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09 >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam- >> ext-09 >> >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CCAMP mailing list >> CCAMP@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > >= From lberger@labn.net Wed Oct 17 11:22:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D9921F86AA for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:22:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.681 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.681 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.684, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tBNQj4QdXIaN for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.55.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B2FE21F86A7 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14219 invoked by uid 0); 17 Oct 2012 18:22:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 2012 18:22:16 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=O+Hsx7UOWk0r/kNXQFC4kqxwndGqJc020IaBGjIdRRs=; b=KX0Os2+zpuNGwnrZe/rQo16/OaCB1uIKhE50SYeNbBtaJHIpBxvQDZxqlY0msR1ll7UmQnoXn6axRa6+7jXLv5xynCzqTdafoLd/5en48RZ4/ujRaC5LKXjXr+L1QcO2; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:47728 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TOYFz-0005P4-Tu; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:22:16 -0600 Message-ID: <507EF751.109@labn.net> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:22:09 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?windows-1252?Q?Pontus_Sk=F6ldstr=F6m?= References: <20121007182354.19033.17145.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <5072FEC1.7020108@labn.net> <59AB558A089035438998A3EE6321ACBEAF72@ESESSMB203.ericsson.se>, <5077174E.8000407@labn.net> <5F606CA13780E9419D0CFFE732DDACE12D0A886805@acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se> In-Reply-To: <5F606CA13780E9419D0CFFE732DDACE12D0A886805@acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:22:41 -0000 Pontus, Please see below. On 10/17/2012 7:18 AM, Pontus Sköldström wrote: > Hi all, > > Based on the comments from Lou we've made some minor updates to the text, changes are shown in red/green at this link: > http://diffchecker.com/7g8cJ8zI > > If there are any objections to these updates please let us know ASAP, if there's no comments we'll upload the suggested changes later this week. > > Best regards, > > Pontus Sköldström, M.Sc. > Research Scientist > Netlab - Networking and Transmission Laboratory > +46 8 632 7731 > pontus.skoldstrom@acreo.se > > Acreo AB – Part of Swedish ICT > Electrum 236, 164 40 Kista, Sweden > www.acreo.se > ________________________________________ > From: Lou Berger [lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 21:00 > To: Elisa Bellagamba > Cc: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org; Pontus Sköldström > Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt > > WG, > Please review and comment on changes. See > http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?difftype=--hwdiff&url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-10.txt > > Recall that this document is post WG LC. > > Elisa, > Thank you for the update. Some comments. > - Please review IDNITs and ensure that the document is clean, see > http://tools.ietf.org/idnits?url=http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-10.txt > Have all the nits been fixed? > - Missing metrics: line 684 (using lines numbers from nits URL), okay. > > - Threshold definition, lines 687/8: I really don't think these > definitions are adequate to ensure consistent implementation. How about: > Loss Threshold: indicates the MaxLMIntervalLoss threshold (measured in > packets) as defined in [RFC6374]. > Your text now reads: Loss Threshold: the threshold value of measured lost packets per measurement over which action(s) SHOULD be triggered. Configuration of triggered action(s) is out of scope for this document but may include signaling an NMS, triggering protection switching, etc. I'm sorry, I just can't parse this. Also, why not refer back to [RFC6374]? > - Line 742-4, Delay Threshold: is this one way or two way delay? I > don't see how you can specify a default. > Your text now reads: Delay Threshold: the threshold value of measured two-way delay (in milliseconds) over which action(s) SHOULD be triggered. Configuration of triggered action(s) is out of scope for this document but may include signaling an NMS, triggering protection switching, etc. Okay. > - line 784, Refresh Timer. This should have a reference and perhaps > just say "MUST carry the same value used in the Refresh Timer field > defined in [rfc6427]." Your text now reads: Refresh Timer: indicates the refresh timer of fault indication messages, in seconds. The value MUST be between 1 to 20 seconds as specified for the Refresh Timer field in [RFC6427]. If the edge LSR receiving the Path message can not support the value it can reply with a higher timer value. does "can" mean "MAY" or "SHOULD"? Lou > > You might want to discuss your proposed changes on the list and get > agreement before rev'ing the document again. Of course, rev numbers are > cheap too... > > Lou > > On 10/11/2012 11:46 AM, Elisa Bellagamba wrote: >> >> Hi Lou, >> >> we have just uploaded version 10 which is inserting back the refresh timer field in accordance with RFC 6427 and fixing the TBD values to the ones recommended in RFC 6375. >> >> Thanks, >> Elisa >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger >> Sent: den 8 oktober 2012 18:27 >> To: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org >> Cc: ccamp@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt >> >> Authors, >> I see you still have some default values called out as TBD. >> Can you please send your proposed defaults to the WG so that we can ensure consensus on these? (Obviously, these need to be filled in before any publication request.) >> >> Also, I see you removed the units from the Refresh Timer field. Was this intentional? I think some unit of measure is needed. >> >> Thanks, >> Lou >> >> On 10/7/2012 2:23 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >>> >>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. >>> This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. >>> >>> Title : Configuration of Pro-Active Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for MPLS-based Transport Networks using RSVP-TE >>> Author(s) : Elisa Bellagamba >>> Loa Andersson >>> Pontus Skoldstrom >>> Dave Ward >>> Attila Takacs >>> Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt >>> Pages : 22 >>> Date : 2012-10-07 >>> >>> Abstract: >>> This specification describes the configuration of pro-active MPLS-TP >>> Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for a >>> given LSP using a set of TLVs that are carried by the RSVP-TE >>> protocol. >>> >>> This document is a product of a joint Internet Engineering Task Force >>> (IETF) / International Telecommunication Union Telecommunication >>> Standardization Sector (ITU-T) effort to include an MPLS Transport >>> Profile within the IETF MPLS and PWE3 architectures to support the >>> capabilities and functionalities of a packet transport network. >>> >>> >>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam- >>> ext >>> >>> There's also a htmlized version available at: >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09 >>> >>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam- >>> ext-09 >>> >>> >>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CCAMP mailing list >>> CCAMP@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> CCAMP mailing list >> CCAMP@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >> >> >> >> > > > From Pontus.Skoldstrom@acreo.se Thu Oct 18 04:55:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E6121F865D for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:55:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OHbeWEMxPHVq for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta1a-out-s9.mail.zscaler.net (mta1a-out-s9.mail.zscaler.net [216.218.133.243]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E988921F8629 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.acreo.se ([217.151.195.216]) by mta1a.mail.zscaler.net ([216.218.133.196]) with ESMTP id 507FEE1210BF0006; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:54:58 -0700 Received: from acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se ([10.4.148.12]) by acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se ([10.4.148.12]) with mapi; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:54:54 +0200 From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Pontus_Sk=F6ldstr=F6m?= To: Lou Berger Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:54:54 +0200 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt Thread-Index: Ac2slFcil52mOCvMRX2MpmfYXJAeOAAjnJOs Message-ID: <5F606CA13780E9419D0CFFE732DDACE12D0A88680B@acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se> References: <20121007182354.19033.17145.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <5072FEC1.7020108@labn.net> <59AB558A089035438998A3EE6321ACBEAF72@ESESSMB203.ericsson.se>, <5077174E.8000407@labn.net> <5F606CA13780E9419D0CFFE732DDACE12D0A886805@acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se>, <507EF751.109@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <507EF751.109@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Zscaler: score=0 iprep=0 Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:55:00 -0000 Hi Lou,=20 Thanks for the quick reply!=20 I'll copy comments in here (outlook is terrible with inline comments.. )=20 > Thank you for the update. Some comments. > - Please review IDNITs and ensure that the document is clean, see > http://tools.ietf.org/idnits?url=3Dhttp://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-cc= amp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-10.txt I've cleaned the nits out of my local copy, in the diffcheck URL I posted I= 'd only dealt with the other comments. >> - Threshold definition, lines 687/8: I really don't think these >> definitions are adequate to ensure consistent implementation. How about: >> Loss Threshold: indicates the MaxLMIntervalLoss threshold (measured in >> packets) as defined in [RFC6374]. >> > Your text now reads: > Loss Threshold: the threshold value of measured lost packets per > measurement over which action(s) SHOULD be triggered. Configuration > of triggered action(s) is out of scope for this document but may > include signaling an NMS, triggering protection switching, etc. > >I'm sorry, I just can't parse this. Also, why not refer back to [RFC6374]= ? The Loss Threshold that we define is unrelated to MaxLMIntervalLoss (the up= per bound of lost packets per measurement interval). We do not wish to configure that value, what we'd like to do is, exactly li= ke with the Delay Threshold, configure an upper limit that if exceeded trig= gers some kind of response.=20 So we might for example want to tell an NMS that something strange is going= on because packet loss is exceeding normal levels.=20 Or perhaps we'd like to immediately trigger protection switching, or write = the current time into a log file for later analysis, something like that.=20 We'd rather not specify exactly what happens when the threshold is exceeded= but leave that open (could be that nothing happens). And since we're not talking about any particular thing in RFC6374 there's n= o reference to it. =20 >Your text now reads: > Refresh Timer: indicates the refresh timer of fault indication > messages, in seconds. The value MUST be between 1 to 20 seconds as > specified for the Refresh Timer field in [RFC6427]. If the edge LSR > receiving the Path message can not support the value it can reply > with a higher timer value. > does "can" mean "MAY" or "SHOULD"? Ah, it SHOULD be SHOULD, I MAY have made a mistake here :-)=20 Cheers, Pontus Sk=F6ldstr=F6m, M.Sc. Research Scientist Netlab - Networking and Transmission Laboratory +46 8 632 7731 pontus.skoldstrom@acreo.se Acreo AB =96 Part of Swedish ICT Electrum 236, 164 40 Kista, Sweden www.acreo.se ________________________________________ From: Lou Berger [lberger@labn.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 20:22 To: Pontus Sk=F6ldstr=F6m Cc: ccamp@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org= ; elisa.bellagamba@ericsson.com Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-0= 9.txt Pontus, Please see below. On 10/17/2012 7:18 AM, Pontus Sk=F6ldstr=F6m wrote: > Hi all, > > Based on the comments from Lou we've made some minor updates to the text,= changes are shown in red/green at this link: > http://diffchecker.com/7g8cJ8zI > > If there are any objections to these updates please let us know ASAP, if = there's no comments we'll upload the suggested changes later this week. > > Best regards, > > Pontus Sk=F6ldstr=F6m, M.Sc. > Research Scientist > Netlab - Networking and Transmission Laboratory > +46 8 632 7731 > pontus.skoldstrom@acreo.se > > Acreo AB =96 Part of Swedish ICT > Electrum 236, 164 40 Kista, Sweden > www.acreo.se > ________________________________________ > From: Lou Berger [lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 21:00 > To: Elisa Bellagamba > Cc: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.o= rg; Pontus Sk=F6ldstr=F6m > Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext= -09.txt > > WG, > Please review and comment on changes. See > http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?difftype=3D--hwdiff&url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp= -rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-10.txt > > Recall that this document is post WG LC. > > Elisa, > Thank you for the update. Some comments. > - Please review IDNITs and ensure that the document is clean, see > http://tools.ietf.org/idnits?url=3Dhttp://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-cc= amp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-10.txt > Have all the nits been fixed? > - Missing metrics: line 684 (using lines numbers from nits URL), okay. > > - Threshold definition, lines 687/8: I really don't think these > definitions are adequate to ensure consistent implementation. How about: > Loss Threshold: indicates the MaxLMIntervalLoss threshold (measured in > packets) as defined in [RFC6374]. > Your text now reads: Loss Threshold: the threshold value of measured lost packets per measurement over which action(s) SHOULD be triggered. Configuration of triggered action(s) is out of scope for this document but may include signaling an NMS, triggering protection switching, etc. I'm sorry, I just can't parse this. Also, why not refer back to [RFC6374]? > - Line 742-4, Delay Threshold: is this one way or two way delay? I > don't see how you can specify a default. > Your text now reads: Delay Threshold: the threshold value of measured two-way delay (in milliseconds) over which action(s) SHOULD be triggered. Configuration of triggered action(s) is out of scope for this document but may include signaling an NMS, triggering protection switching, etc. Okay. > - line 784, Refresh Timer. This should have a reference and perhaps > just say "MUST carry the same value used in the Refresh Timer field > defined in [rfc6427]." Your text now reads: Refresh Timer: indicates the refresh timer of fault indication messages, in seconds. The value MUST be between 1 to 20 seconds as specified for the Refresh Timer field in [RFC6427]. If the edge LSR receiving the Path message can not support the value it can reply with a higher timer value. does "can" mean "MAY" or "SHOULD"? Lou > > You might want to discuss your proposed changes on the list and get > agreement before rev'ing the document again. Of course, rev numbers are > cheap too... > > Lou > > On 10/11/2012 11:46 AM, Elisa Bellagamba wrote: >> >> Hi Lou, >> >> we have just uploaded version 10 which is inserting back the refresh tim= er field in accordance with RFC 6427 and fixing the TBD values to the ones = recommended in RFC 6375. >> >> Thanks, >> Elisa >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf O= f Lou Berger >> Sent: den 8 oktober 2012 18:27 >> To: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org >> Cc: ccamp@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ex= t-09.txt >> >> Authors, >> I see you still have some default values called out as TBD. >> Can you please send your proposed defaults to the WG so that we can ensu= re consensus on these? (Obviously, these need to be filled in before any pu= blication request.) >> >> Also, I see you removed the units from the Refresh Timer field. Was thi= s intentional? I think some unit of measure is needed. >> >> Thanks, >> Lou >> >> On 10/7/2012 2:23 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >>> >>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts dire= ctories. >>> This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane = Working Group of the IETF. >>> >>> Title : Configuration of Pro-Active Operations, Administ= ration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for MPLS-based Transport Networks u= sing RSVP-TE >>> Author(s) : Elisa Bellagamba >>> Loa Andersson >>> Pontus Skoldstrom >>> Dave Ward >>> Attila Takacs >>> Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt >>> Pages : 22 >>> Date : 2012-10-07 >>> >>> Abstract: >>> This specification describes the configuration of pro-active MPLS-TP >>> Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for a >>> given LSP using a set of TLVs that are carried by the RSVP-TE >>> protocol. >>> >>> This document is a product of a joint Internet Engineering Task Forc= e >>> (IETF) / International Telecommunication Union Telecommunication >>> Standardization Sector (ITU-T) effort to include an MPLS Transport >>> Profile within the IETF MPLS and PWE3 architectures to support the >>> capabilities and functionalities of a packet transport network. >>> >>> >>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam- >>> ext >>> >>> There's also a htmlized version available at: >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09 >>> >>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam= - >>> ext-09 >>> >>> >>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CCAMP mailing list >>> CCAMP@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> CCAMP mailing list >> CCAMP@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >> >> >> >> > > > From lberger@labn.net Thu Oct 18 06:23:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1C121F852E for ; 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bh=qvV/Nxcm0WYJL0V+aLiRJrKW7+3dhMMzNBiB0aR5gd0=; b=vlvzTq4iwdPfxzDc4uAfAAyYDVSM04pLTUNu9UC3qxF/mEbZ3XScqu1XTXHanfjpOTofQPL1JbpfwAvGN3wnfM23S8mykaup4Ww99+UGdMzjDq3086kwH6xn6PQ2RKok; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:37640 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TOq41-0002Hu-Or; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:23:06 -0600 Message-ID: <508002B3.9050100@labn.net> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:22:59 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?windows-1252?Q?Pontus_Sk=F6ldstr=F6m?= References: <20121007182354.19033.17145.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <5072FEC1.7020108@labn.net> <59AB558A089035438998A3EE6321ACBEAF72@ESESSMB203.ericsson.se>, <5077174E.8000407@labn.net> <5F606CA13780E9419D0CFFE732DDACE12D0A886805@acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se>, <507EF751.109@labn.net> <5F606CA13780E9419D0CFFE732DDACE12D0A88680B@acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se> In-Reply-To: <5F606CA13780E9419D0CFFE732DDACE12D0A88680B@acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:23:37 -0000 Pontus, Just noticed, the draft says: 3.4.2. MPLS OAM PM Delay sub-TLV The "MPLS OAM PM Delay sub-TLV" depicted below is carried as a sub- TLV of the "OAM Functions TLV". Shouldn't it read: TLV of the "Performance Monitoring sub-TLV" and (in same section) define, suggested value 1). should be define, suggested value 2). Please also see below. On 10/18/2012 7:54 AM, Pontus Sköldström wrote: > Hi Lou, > > Thanks for the quick reply! > I'll copy comments in here (outlook is terrible with inline comments.. ) > >> Thank you for the update. Some comments. >> - Please review IDNITs and ensure that the document is clean, see >> http://tools.ietf.org/idnits?url=http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-10.txt > > I've cleaned the nits out of my local copy, in the diffcheck URL I posted I'd only dealt with the other comments. > okay >>> - Threshold definition, lines 687/8: I really don't think these >>> definitions are adequate to ensure consistent implementation. How about: >>> Loss Threshold: indicates the MaxLMIntervalLoss threshold (measured in >>> packets) as defined in [RFC6374]. >>> >> Your text now reads: >> Loss Threshold: the threshold value of measured lost packets per >> measurement over which action(s) SHOULD be triggered. Configuration >> of triggered action(s) is out of scope for this document but may >> include signaling an NMS, triggering protection switching, etc. >> >> I'm sorry, I just can't parse this. Also, why not refer back to [RFC6374]? > > The Loss Threshold that we define is unrelated to MaxLMIntervalLoss > (the upper bound of lost packets per measurement interval). We do not > wish to configure that value, what we'd like to do is, exactly like > with the Delay Threshold, configure an upper limit that if exceeded > triggers some kind of response. Fair enough. > > So we might for example want to tell an NMS that something strange is > going on because packet loss is exceeding normal levels. Or perhaps > we'd like to immediately trigger protection switching, or write the > current time into a log file for later analysis, something like that. > > We'd rather not specify exactly what happens when the threshold is > exceeded but leave that open (could be that nothing happens). And > since we're not talking about any particular thing in RFC6374 there's > no reference to it. Perhaps the way to address is to make a general statement on this earlier in the section and removed both statements of: Configuration of triggered action(s) is out of scope for this document but may include signaling an NMS, triggering protection switching, etc. Perhaps something at the start of 3.4 that says something like: The Performance Monitoring sub-TLV provides the configuration information mentioned in Section 7 of [RFC6374]. It includes support for the configuration of quality thresholds and, as described in [RFC6374], "the crossing of which will trigger warnings or alarms, and result reporting and exception notification will be integrated into the system-wide network management and reporting framework." Lou > > >> Your text now reads: >> Refresh Timer: indicates the refresh timer of fault indication >> messages, in seconds. The value MUST be between 1 to 20 seconds as >> specified for the Refresh Timer field in [RFC6427]. If the edge LSR >> receiving the Path message can not support the value it can reply >> with a higher timer value. > >> does "can" mean "MAY" or "SHOULD"? > > Ah, it SHOULD be SHOULD, I MAY have made a mistake here :-) > > > > Cheers, > > Pontus Sköldström, M.Sc. > Research Scientist > Netlab - Networking and Transmission Laboratory > +46 8 632 7731 > pontus.skoldstrom@acreo.se > > Acreo AB – Part of Swedish ICT > Electrum 236, 164 40 Kista, Sweden > www.acreo.se > ________________________________________ > From: Lou Berger [lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 20:22 > To: Pontus Sköldström > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org; elisa.bellagamba@ericsson.com > Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt > > Pontus, > > Please see below. > > > On 10/17/2012 7:18 AM, Pontus Sköldström wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Based on the comments from Lou we've made some minor updates to the text, changes are shown in red/green at this link: >> http://diffchecker.com/7g8cJ8zI >> >> If there are any objections to these updates please let us know ASAP, if there's no comments we'll upload the suggested changes later this week. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Pontus Sköldström, M.Sc. >> Research Scientist >> Netlab - Networking and Transmission Laboratory >> +46 8 632 7731 >> pontus.skoldstrom@acreo.se >> >> Acreo AB – Part of Swedish ICT >> Electrum 236, 164 40 Kista, Sweden >> www.acreo.se >> ________________________________________ >> From: Lou Berger [lberger@labn.net] >> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 21:00 >> To: Elisa Bellagamba >> Cc: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org; Pontus Sköldström >> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt >> >> WG, >> Please review and comment on changes. See >> http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?difftype=--hwdiff&url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-10.txt >> >> Recall that this document is post WG LC. >> >> Elisa, >> Thank you for the update. Some comments. >> - Please review IDNITs and ensure that the document is clean, see >> http://tools.ietf.org/idnits?url=http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-10.txt >> > > Have all the nits been fixed? > >> - Missing metrics: line 684 (using lines numbers from nits URL), > > okay. > > >> >> - Threshold definition, lines 687/8: I really don't think these >> definitions are adequate to ensure consistent implementation. How about: > >> Loss Threshold: indicates the MaxLMIntervalLoss threshold (measured in >> packets) as defined in [RFC6374]. >> > Your text now reads: > Loss Threshold: the threshold value of measured lost packets per > measurement over which action(s) SHOULD be triggered. Configuration > of triggered action(s) is out of scope for this document but may > include signaling an NMS, triggering protection switching, etc. > > I'm sorry, I just can't parse this. Also, why not refer back to [RFC6374]? > >> - Line 742-4, Delay Threshold: is this one way or two way delay? I >> don't see how you can specify a default. >> > > Your text now reads: > Delay Threshold: the threshold value of measured two-way delay (in > milliseconds) over which action(s) SHOULD be triggered. > Configuration of triggered action(s) is out of scope for this > document but may include signaling an NMS, triggering protection > switching, etc. > > Okay. > >> - line 784, Refresh Timer. This should have a reference and perhaps >> just say "MUST carry the same value used in the Refresh Timer field >> defined in [rfc6427]." > > Your text now reads: > Refresh Timer: indicates the refresh timer of fault indication > messages, in seconds. The value MUST be between 1 to 20 seconds as > specified for the Refresh Timer field in [RFC6427]. If the edge LSR > receiving the Path message can not support the value it can reply > with a higher timer value. > > does "can" mean "MAY" or "SHOULD"? > > Lou > >> >> You might want to discuss your proposed changes on the list and get >> agreement before rev'ing the document again. Of course, rev numbers are >> cheap too... >> >> Lou >> >> On 10/11/2012 11:46 AM, Elisa Bellagamba wrote: >>> >>> Hi Lou, >>> >>> we have just uploaded version 10 which is inserting back the refresh timer field in accordance with RFC 6427 and fixing the TBD values to the ones recommended in RFC 6375. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Elisa >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger >>> Sent: den 8 oktober 2012 18:27 >>> To: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org >>> Cc: ccamp@ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt >>> >>> Authors, >>> I see you still have some default values called out as TBD. >>> Can you please send your proposed defaults to the WG so that we can ensure consensus on these? (Obviously, these need to be filled in before any publication request.) >>> >>> Also, I see you removed the units from the Refresh Timer field. Was this intentional? I think some unit of measure is needed. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Lou >>> >>> On 10/7/2012 2:23 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >>>> >>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. >>>> This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. >>>> >>>> Title : Configuration of Pro-Active Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for MPLS-based Transport Networks using RSVP-TE >>>> Author(s) : Elisa Bellagamba >>>> Loa Andersson >>>> Pontus Skoldstrom >>>> Dave Ward >>>> Attila Takacs >>>> Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt >>>> Pages : 22 >>>> Date : 2012-10-07 >>>> >>>> Abstract: >>>> This specification describes the configuration of pro-active MPLS-TP >>>> Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for a >>>> given LSP using a set of TLVs that are carried by the RSVP-TE >>>> protocol. >>>> >>>> This document is a product of a joint Internet Engineering Task Force >>>> (IETF) / International Telecommunication Union Telecommunication >>>> Standardization Sector (ITU-T) effort to include an MPLS Transport >>>> Profile within the IETF MPLS and PWE3 architectures to support the >>>> capabilities and functionalities of a packet transport network. >>>> >>>> >>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam- >>>> ext >>>> >>>> There's also a htmlized version available at: >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09 >>>> >>>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam- >>>> ext-09 >>>> >>>> >>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> CCAMP mailing list >>>> CCAMP@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CCAMP mailing list >>> CCAMP@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > From leeyoung@huawei.com Thu Oct 18 10:22:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E51321F877A; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 10:21:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F8UWz6s4CCoK; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 10:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2898621F876A; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 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amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pcjLokR+iQkJ for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta1a-out-s8.mail.zscaler.net (mta1a-out-s8.mail.zscaler.net [216.218.133.242]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190DF21F845D for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.acreo.se ([217.151.195.216]) by mta1a.mail.zscaler.net ([216.218.133.196]) with ESMTP id 5080461A10BF000E; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:10:34 -0700 Received: from acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se ([10.4.148.12]) by acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se ([10.4.148.12]) with mapi; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:10:31 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pontus_Sk=F6ldstr=F6m?= To: Lou Berger Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:10:29 +0200 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt Thread-Index: Ac2tM7aUIg/f7ldUQKuGA24xaPf5qwAJ79xg Message-ID: <5F606CA13780E9419D0CFFE732DDACE12D0AAAF64E@acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se> References: <20121007182354.19033.17145.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <5072FEC1.7020108@labn.net> <59AB558A089035438998A3EE6321ACBEAF72@ESESSMB203.ericsson.se>, <5077174E.8000407@labn.net> <5F606CA13780E9419D0CFFE732DDACE12D0A886805@acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se>, <507EF751.109@labn.net> <5F606CA13780E9419D0CFFE732DDACE12D0A88680B@acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se> <508002B3.9050100@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <508002B3.9050100@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: sv-SE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Zscaler: score=0 iprep=0 Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:10:42 -0000 See inline,=20 Cheers,=20 Pontus=20 --- snip ---=20 > Just noticed, the draft says: > 3.4.2. MPLS OAM PM Delay sub-TLV >=20 > The "MPLS OAM PM Delay sub-TLV" depicted below is carried as a sub- > TLV of the "OAM Functions TLV". >=20 > Shouldn't it read: > TLV of the "Performance Monitoring sub-TLV" >=20 > and (in same section) > define, suggested value 1). > should be > define, suggested value 2). [Pontus]=20 You're absolutely correct, fixed.=20 --- snip ---=20 > > We'd rather not specify exactly what happens when the threshold is > > exceeded but leave that open (could be that nothing happens). And > > since we're not talking about any particular thing in RFC6374 there's > > no reference to it. >=20 > Perhaps the way to address is to make a general statement on this > earlier in the section and removed both statements of: >=20 > Configuration of triggered action(s) is out of scope for this > document but may include signaling an NMS, triggering protection > switching, etc. >=20 > Perhaps something at the start of 3.4 that says something like: >=20 > The Performance Monitoring sub-TLV provides the configuration > information mentioned in Section 7 of [RFC6374]. It includes support > for > the configuration of quality thresholds and, as described in [RFC6374], > "the crossing of which will trigger warnings or alarms, and result > reporting and exception notification will be integrated into the > system-wide network management and reporting framework." [Pontus]=20 Sure, that makes sense, fixed.=20 From lberger@labn.net Thu Oct 18 14:30:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3ADC21F8459 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:30:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.019 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.019 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.946, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r+BxKz0f2NHj for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.22.20]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 07B6621F8445 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7914 invoked by uid 0); 18 Oct 2012 21:29:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy8.bluehost.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2012 21:29:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=ooAn98qiC1k6AbGaOckgUS+FRbwH9mswjCODuCDFsN8=; b=ggpRPmR6kfW+d7vcwzDLK+kdYM5Rrj0L9iWDdYUJaH5bDbr+g953pQLozx10R+/V6ORG6i7ebx9bfyepKG4/5fbZv2wnKg5dwVKfphclg+HZsOCohLm9zp/VNbPoVO/b; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:35396 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TOxev-0003os-Cz; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:29:41 -0600 Message-ID: <508074BF.1090407@labn.net> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:29:35 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pontus_Sk=F6ldstr=F6m?= References: <20121007182354.19033.17145.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <5072FEC1.7020108@labn.net> <59AB558A089035438998A3EE6321ACBEAF72@ESESSMB203.ericsson.se>, <5077174E.8000407@labn.net> <5F606CA13780E9419D0CFFE732DDACE12D0A886805@acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se>, <507EF751.109@labn.net> <5F606CA13780E9419D0CFFE732DDACE12D0A88680B@acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se> <508002B3.9050100@labn.net> <5F606CA13780E9419D0CFFE732DDACE12D0AAAF64E@acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se> In-Reply-To: <5F606CA13780E9419D0CFFE732DDACE12D0AAAF64E@acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-09.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:30:04 -0000 Pontus, Thank you for addressing my comments! Lou On 10/18/2012 2:10 PM, Pontus Sköldström wrote: > See inline, > > Cheers, > Pontus > --- snip --- >> Just noticed, the draft says: >> 3.4.2. MPLS OAM PM Delay sub-TLV >> >> The "MPLS OAM PM Delay sub-TLV" depicted below is carried as a sub- >> TLV of the "OAM Functions TLV". >> >> Shouldn't it read: >> TLV of the "Performance Monitoring sub-TLV" >> >> and (in same section) >> define, suggested value 1). >> should be >> define, suggested value 2). > > [Pontus] > You're absolutely correct, fixed. > > --- snip --- >>> We'd rather not specify exactly what happens when the threshold is >>> exceeded but leave that open (could be that nothing happens). And >>> since we're not talking about any particular thing in RFC6374 there's >>> no reference to it. >> >> Perhaps the way to address is to make a general statement on this >> earlier in the section and removed both statements of: >> >> Configuration of triggered action(s) is out of scope for this >> document but may include signaling an NMS, triggering protection >> switching, etc. >> >> Perhaps something at the start of 3.4 that says something like: >> >> The Performance Monitoring sub-TLV provides the configuration >> information mentioned in Section 7 of [RFC6374]. It includes support >> for >> the configuration of quality thresholds and, as described in [RFC6374], >> "the crossing of which will trigger warnings or alarms, and result >> reporting and exception notification will be integrated into the >> system-wide network management and reporting framework." > > [Pontus] > Sure, that makes sense, fixed. > > > > From lberger@labn.net Thu Oct 18 15:20:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F359421F84BB for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:20:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.372 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.372 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.227, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MABY9CaFoOqq for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy11-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy11-pub.bluehost.com [173.254.64.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 514BD21F8498 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23062 invoked by uid 0); 18 Oct 2012 22:19:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy11.bluehost.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2012 22:19:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=y9k182+KRWz79P0ofdTchfmAWlfNWmK6BQSU6J4Fem4=; b=rUAa/sx9hR6tBHVKRtfaMr+nNcM7VAh4QeoLsxHESJzsao4VLj9x6eHRg3tsbf3SE44KVQzVtH5fTGoDUA6VwqennK5ZB7ds/Rr7OGkmZtvhh6tSv9LhWXox4yririEl; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:40205 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TOyRI-0006lG-O3 for ccamp@ietf.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:19:40 -0600 Message-ID: <50808077.1080105@labn.net> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:19:35 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CCAMP X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Subject: [CCAMP] Reminder: Request to WG authors/editors (for Atlanta) X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:20:05 -0000 Authors of WG documents, As with the last meeting: Please plan to review (present) any changes that have been recently made to your draft, as well as any plans for, or open issues with the draft at the upcoming meeting. If there have been no recent changes, please present open issues and your plans for moving the draft forward. If you have not already done so, please respond to Daniele's agenda request mail to schedule your presentation time. If you don't need a full slot for the draft, please be prepared to say a few words on document status/progress/planned revisions in our first session. Alternatively, you can send this information to the WG mail list prior to the WG meeting. Much thanks. 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bh=Ulds3FkImq6Zz/n2oo+YZ30KJpjn+clPrHeDPSc2Ooo=; b=EcSeE4+3RsxCyoypMwgrdKXvkzKuKEvvQNvAvFg7C7vfXAGA9etFIFYxeuJYI+/03EVlfngDoXDR9lGxJvIh7awxPf0n2oY8JrR09Z5SzV5weSM1ztUwxQI2CrpbCm4W; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:37723 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TPLdO-0002mA-RW; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:05:43 -0600 Message-ID: <5081DCC1.60202@labn.net> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:05:37 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CCAMP , "draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework@tools.ietf.org" References: <50733BED.8090304@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <50733BED.8090304@labn.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Subject: [CCAMP] WG Last Call comments on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-09 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:06:06 -0000 Authors, I have the following LC comments: General comment: - I have a comment related to the info document, that I'll cover in a separate mail on the info-model document . - I found appendix A to not be very informative and thing there are better examples in the other documents, suggest either moving one ore more to this document or drop the appendix. The remaining comments are editorial in nature - Please verify that abbreviations are defined before being used . There are a number of these. - Please use a consistent decimal representation (sometimes commas are used other times periods) - the references [G709-v1] and [G709-v3] each actually refer to multiple documents, each documented needs to have it's own (correct) reference, i.g., [G709-v1] and [G709-v1a1]. The document text will need to be revisited to ensure the proper reference is made. - http://tools.ietf.org/idnits?url=http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-09.txt shows there are unresolved nits that need to resolved . I'm using line numbers from this url in my subsequent comments. - Line 46: How about replace "as consented in October 2009" with "as published in 2009." - Line 255: Drop "approved in 2009" the reference is sufficient - Line 260: suggest the following change: OLD 2.5Gb/s 1.25Gb/s Nominal Bit rate NEW Time Slot Granularity 2.5Gb/s 1.25Gb/s Nominal Bit rate - Lines 272-274: Please add the appropriate reference to G.709 section or table that points to where one finds the information on determining actual bit rate. - Line 307: suggest changing "into the OTUk" --> "into a specific OTUk" - Line 340/1: need a reference to where this is defined. - Line 346-347: Need a reference to where this behavior is defined. - Lines 387/388. Isn't this sentence OBE and should be dropped? - Page 11, RWA is used in a few places on this page as is OCh layer, suggest replacing all instances of RWA with OCH or "OCh layer". - Line 500: what do you mean by "including OCh layer visibility."? this isn't really reflected in the solutions documents (other than as MLN). - Line 589: replace "New label" with "A new label format" - Line 636: replace "some" with "sufficient" - Lines 639-641: drop lines (seems redundant with following paragraph) - Line 686: your usage of "just" is a bit odd, how about replace "be just switched" with "restricted to switching" - Line 688: similarly how about replace "just terminated" to "restricted to termination" - lines 714-719, probably should have a reference to [rfc4201] - Line 879: Replace "contrary" with "opposite" or "reverse" - Line 888. I suggest adding "Although, this is not greater than the risks presented by the existing OTN control plane as defined by [RFC4203] and [RFC4328]." - Lines 888-890, I suggest dropping the sentence starting with "The data plane technology..." for multiple reasons, not least of which is that the ITU-T owns the data plane so the comment is completely out of scope. - Lines 1081/2: The whole document is non-normative, so just drop this sentence. That's it on this document. Lou On 10/8/2012 4:47 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > This mail begins a two week working group last call on: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-09 > (Informational) > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-04 > (Informational) > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3-03 > (Standards Track) > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-04 > (Standards Track) > > This working group last call ends on October 22. Comments should be > sent to the CCAMP mailing list. Please remember to include the > technical basis for any comments. > > Please note that we're still missing a few IPR statements, and look > for these to come in during the LC period. Any forthcoming publication > request will be delayed by late IPR statements/disclosures. > > Thank you, > Lou (and Deborah) > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > From lberger@labn.net Fri Oct 19 16:06:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CFD21F8852 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:06:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.429 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.429 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.170, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IFQX-NACvjmu for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com [50.87.16.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0423921F8850 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13629 invoked by uid 0); 19 Oct 2012 23:05:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy12.bluehost.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2012 23:05:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=PPNaho0f18H3LOgDIZStWFMYfeZuhC/05dTvgPQWJjE=; b=TcnHiC7VILenNAbDUdcgIvxbS+1ix50XXufZef6IlJKVQObO6pBCL+BuPEeRpgy3YXO8ThLms/DKrWQnvBESUziN67e4EsKAusjcX/xE4x33uZ+M1HKsLS2pR9WhX7OP; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:37741 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TPLdT-0002nn-Ld; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:05:47 -0600 Message-ID: <5081DCC6.1010409@labn.net> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:05:42 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CCAMP , draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model@tools.ietf.org References: <50733BED.8090304@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <50733BED.8090304@labn.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Subject: [CCAMP] WG Last Call comments on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-04 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:06:10 -0000 Authors, I have the following LC comments: General comments: - There's a lot of text/concepts that is common to both this document and the framework document. The document certainly adds additional useful detail, but I'm not sure it's really provides an information model of any kind. Optimally, I think this document should be merged with the framework document. I think this would yield a more comprehensive and understandable result. I really don't see this as a lot of work/time, although it clearly would be a major change. If this is considered to be to onerous a proposal, then this document should at least be updated to (a) reduce duplication text with the framework document and (b) remove any references to "model" and just talk about providing "Additional Information" - The document should be reviewed by the authors to ensure it is consistent with the latest solutions documents and WG discussions. For example, there are multiple references to the contentious and much discussed "penultimate hop" case without any references to the agreed upon approach. Editorial comments: - Please verify that abbreviations are defined before being used . There are a number of these. - Please use a consistent decimal representation (sometimes commas are used other times periods) - the references [G709-v1] and [G709-v3] each actually refer to multiple documents, each documented needs to have it's own (correct) reference, i.g., [G709-v1] and [G709-v1a1]. The document text will need to be revisited to ensure the proper reference is made. - http://tools.ietf.org/idnits?url=http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-04.txt shows there are unresolved nits that need to resolved . I'm using line numbers from this url in my subsequent comments. Line 18: Suggest dropping "The recent revision of" Line 20/21: Suggest dropping the marketing phrase "enabling optimized support for an increasingly abundant service mix." Lines 93-127 (through "of"): I don't see how this text provides any value. I suggest dropping it, or at most just reference the FWK document. Lines 319-341: Instances of "G.709" should be "[G.709-V3]" Line 538: Add "(Source: Table 7-10 [G.709-V3])" Lines 579/80: Does "foundation G.709" mean "[G.709-V1]" If not what does it mean? Line 591: Replace/add "[RFC4203]" after "OSPF-TE" Lines 617-620: While one could certainly implement 4202/3 this way, it certainly is not required. I think these lines should be dropped. Lines 626-630: These sentences are simply wrong. What would be correct is to say something like: "Per [RFC2328], OSPF messages are directly encapsulated in IP datagrams and depend on IP fragmentation when transmitting packets larger than the network MTU. [RFC2328] recommends that "IP fragmentation should be avoided whenever possible." This recommendation further constraints solutions as OSPF does not support any generic mechanism to fragment OSPF LSAs." Line 632, probably should add a reference to [RFC4201]. Lines 733, 735, 764: figure numbers are wrong "6"->"9", "7"->"10" Lines 734/5: "are supposed to" --> "only" Line 735: "The figure 6 addresses" --> "Figure 9 represents" Line 738: Assuming I understand your intent, replace "Being D a single stage capable node" --> "As node D is a single stage capable node" Section 5, needs to be updated to reference existing relevant signaling and routing GMPLS RFCs and identify any additional information that is being conveyed and additional risks, if any. That's it on this document. Lou On 10/8/2012 4:47 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > This mail begins a two week working group last call on: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-09 > (Informational) > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-04 > (Informational) > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3-03 > (Standards Track) > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-04 > (Standards Track) > > This working group last call ends on October 22. Comments should be > sent to the CCAMP mailing list. Please remember to include the > technical basis for any comments. > > Please note that we're still missing a few IPR statements, and look > for these to come in during the LC period. Any forthcoming publication > request will be delayed by late IPR statements/disclosures. > > Thank you, > Lou (and Deborah) > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > From lberger@labn.net Fri Oct 19 16:06:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5018D21F885A for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:06:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.151, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tCYqAta6EbUW for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy11-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy11-pub.bluehost.com [173.254.64.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E21121F8858 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11261 invoked by uid 0); 19 Oct 2012 23:05:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy11.bluehost.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2012 23:05:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=7UIA5bGCdaFsvXaYirm8SQ3N7Lcadm8b9FhMkYcsy1c=; b=Z1l3ewmLuRSsGg2mYrMwNM6+jz5AOHWMj0pHvwzr+ZXNpO5KAo6XmCwSyHNPaAftFXziu8jtnLlMWRNheD04DXJQXQasqvQtyqhJEtCYy/LWbrDzAmYFBRsVH47inZ/m; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:37767 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TPLdX-0002p7-0l; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:05:51 -0600 Message-ID: <5081DCC9.8090904@labn.net> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:05:45 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CCAMP , "draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3@tools.ietf.org" References: <50733BED.8090304@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <50733BED.8090304@labn.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Subject: [CCAMP] WG Last Call comments on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3-03 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:06:14 -0000 Authors, I have the following LC comments: General comments: - Some comments made just about a year ago still remain unaddressed: On 10/28/2011 6:18 AM, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote: > Hi Lou, > > Thanks for the careful review, please find comment/replies in line [DSP] > > Daniele, Sergio, Pietro > > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger > Sent: mercoledì 26 ottobre 2011 0.37 > To: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3@tools.ietf.org > Cc: CCAMP > Subject: [CCAMP] some comments on gmpls-ospf-g709v3-00 ... > 2) SCSI TLV formatting > > The field descriptions are missing format related conformance > (RFC2119) language. > > [DSP] - Ok, will be fixed. > > 3) SCSI TLV procedures > > You have defined the formats of the TLVs in Section 4.1, but not > explicitly how they are to be used. Some RFC2119 language really is > needed to cover how the SCSI is to be encoded and parsed. At a > minimum, any TLV inclusion, ordering requirements, and exception > handling should be covered. (For example, your examples always show a > particular ordering relative to Stage#, is this required, > recommended, or just a possibility. You have some informative > language, which is great, but you also need some RFC2119 language.) > [DSP] - Ok ... > 6) Finally, some nits: > s/[OTN-INFO], the OSPF-TE/[OTN-INFO], OSPF-TE s/list of them/list s/Priority :8 bits/Priority (8 bits): > s/infer/imply > > [DSP] - Ok - You have some very nice examples, but are inconsistent in filling in field values. I think all values that can possibly be filled in in the examples should be. Detailed editorial and technical comments: - Please verify that abbreviations are defined before being used . There are a number of these. - Please use a consistent decimal representation (sometimes commas are used other times periods) - the references [G709-v1] and [G709-v3] each actually refer to multiple documents, each documented needs to have it's own (correct) reference, i.g., [G709-v1] and [G709-v1a1]. The document text will need to be revisited to ensure the proper reference is made. - http://tools.ietf.org/idnits?url=http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3-03.txt shows there are unresolved nits that need to resolved . I'm using line numbers from this url in my subsequent comments. - Line 24: drop "The recent revision of " - Line 138: "ODUk an higher order" --> "ODUk to indicate a higher order" - Line 145: "iterated" --> "repeated" - Line 181/2: Drop "Some of the prominent representations are captured below." - Line 202: perhaps "termed" --> "referred to"? - Line 226: I'd suggest 110, but don't feel too strongly about it. - Line 228: Start with "When supporting the extensions defined in this document, the" - Lines 236-261: Replace all lines with "MUST be interpreted as defined in [RFC4203]". No need to repeat what's already specified. - Lines 265-272: Additional information is fine, but don't repeat 4203 unless directly quoting. - Line 300: Need to specify what "differing characteristics" means using RFC2119 language. - Section 4.1. I think the combine presentation of the two types is confusing. I suggest adding a section 4.1.1 right after line 311 covering "Switch Capability Specific Information for fixed containers" followed by a section 4.1.2 covering "Switch Capability Specific Information for flexible containers". Field definitions will need to be reorganized as appropriate. Also the common format and rules related to the OTN-TDM SCSI container should be defined before going into the type specific definitions. (at the 4.1) level. - Lines 405-417: How about replace all with: "Signal Type: Indicates the ODU type being advertised. Values are defined in [OTN-SIG]" - Line 428: after "level" suggest adding something like "below the indicated signal type" - Line 442: "00" --> "0" - Lines 447, 454, 463, 464: I find the "don't care" case a bit odd. How about make 0 "unused" or "ignored" and use it instead of 4? - Lines 472/3: Replace "stage of the muxing hierarchy" --> "of the indicated Number of stages" - Line 476: "then no Stage fields MUST be included." --> "then the Stage and Padding fields MUST be omitted." - Lines 484/5: "Only Unreserved/MAX LSP BW fields for supported" --> "Unreserved/MAX LSP BW fields for each identified" - Line 486: After "to 7)" add ", and Unreserved/MAX LSP BW fields for other priority values MUST be omitted." - Line 497: Drop "Only", "for supported" --> "for each supported" - As mentioned above need processing rules/procedures, for multiple ISCDs, SCSI information, e.g., use and ordering of multiple containers. - Line 503: "infer" -> "imply" - Fill in all example field values - Section 7 -- update to reference 4203 and 5920. Discuss implications / added risk of additional information provided in this document. Section 8. This section needs some work. (I'm assuming your familiar with rfc5226). - Switching types are assigned in http://www.iana.org/assignments/gmpls-sig-parameters/gmpls-sig-parameters.xml#gmpls-sig-parameters-3 (Again I suggest 110, not 101, but this isn't a big deal) - I think you are actually asking for IANA to establish a new registry. Perhaps something like "OTN-TDM Container Registry" under a new "GMPLS Routing Parameters" with two new types. That's it on this document. Lou On 10/8/2012 4:47 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > This mail begins a two week working group last call on: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-09 > (Informational) > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-04 > (Informational) > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3-03 > (Standards Track) > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-04 > (Standards Track) > > This working group last call ends on October 22. Comments should be > sent to the CCAMP mailing list. Please remember to include the > technical basis for any comments. > > Please note that we're still missing a few IPR statements, and look > for these to come in during the LC period. Any forthcoming publication > request will be delayed by late IPR statements/disclosures. > > Thank you, > Lou (and Deborah) > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > From lberger@labn.net Sun Oct 21 19:01:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5FD21F8A5E for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:01:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.371 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.371 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.035, BAYES_20=-0.74, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WQoJEERXYQh7 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.22.20]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6954B21F8A49 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21629 invoked by uid 0); 22 Oct 2012 02:00:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy8.bluehost.com with SMTP; 22 Oct 2012 02:00:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=lyEHTsmLsv/rlI7gSol30L5aHQcZ+Lhe9Vt9R/9fGbs=; b=HczUKh5dU0O4GsNjTt33vfJ/gy4XCg/c/Cz1Qp8TjWFqhg/rH+vVbmwBLRTJkRDka2NbrZHgiDG1Ps5tdZIXkLUohDrpIlYqtrKD/L1KRA2hWLYoGafYRW0Xv32ZNZ1t; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:35578 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ7Jj-0007On-HK; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:00:35 -0600 Message-ID: <5084A8C0.1010607@labn.net> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:00:32 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CCAMP , "draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3@tools.ietf.org" References: <50733BED.8090304@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <50733BED.8090304@labn.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Subject: [CCAMP] WG Last Call comments on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-04 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:01:01 -0000 Authors, I have the following LC comments: General comments: - This document also needs some addition work on conformance language. I'll try to point out cases in the detailed comments below. - Section 5 essentially defines a new set of traffic parameters. Given the changes, why not ask for a new C-TYPE and not worry about [RFC4328] compatibility/description? Detailed editorial and technical comments: - Please verify that abbreviations are defined before being used . There are a number of these. - Please use a consistent decimal representation (sometimes commas are used other times periods) - the references [G709-v1] and [G709-v3] each actually refer to multiple documents, each documented needs to have it's own (correct) reference, i.g., [G709-v1] and [G709-v1a1]. The document text will need to be revisited to ensure the proper reference is made. - http://tools.ietf.org/idnits?url=http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-04.txt shows there are unresolved nits that need to resolved . I'm using line numbers from this url in my subsequent comments. - Line 2: The document is currently written as if it "Updates" 4328 this should be identified in the header. - Line 43: drop "Recent progress in", replace "standardization" with [G.709-V3] - Line 45-53. Drop all starting from "Several..." - Lines 95-128: Not sure this adds anything. Should just reference FWK, INFO, OSPF and drop the rest. - Section 3. Perhaps combine with section 1. - Section 4, lines 208-238. For future "proofing"/compatibility, I suggest removing the bandwidths (2.5, 10, 40 Gbps). or changing all the "i.e."s into "e.g."s. - Section 5: assuming this is now a new c-type need text for that, as well as to formally defined the fields/field sizes. - Lines 285-287: replace all lines with "The valid Signal Type values defined in [RFC4328] are updated to be:" - Lines 309-318. I found this really hard to understand. Why not just call it Tolerance? - Lines 320-336,338-346 are essentially repeated in sections 5.1 and 5.2, why not move this text into their respective sections? - lines 445-468: Why not just carry "n" directly? - Lines 472-482: Suggest replacing all lines with something like: This section defines the format of the OTN-TDM Generalized Label. - Line 484: replace "New definition of ODU" with "OTN-TDM" Switching Type. - Lines 486-487: Replace lines with "The following is the Generalized Label format for that MUST be used with the OTN-TDM Switching Type" - Line 499: "can be figured out locally according to the identifier of" --> "is identified by" - Line 562: "number of bit" --> "number of bits". The valid values for this field are 0, 4 and 8, right? If so, this should be spelled out. - Line 576: "Padded bits" seems off, how about "Pad bits" or "Padding", also bits aren't represented in label format (line 494)., also "behind" --> "after" - Lines 580-588: I suspect these lines should be in a procedures section, as there should be specific processing rules governing the described usage. Section 6.2: I like the examples, but IMO they belong at the end of section 6, not in the middle of the normative language. - Line 656: Generally the processing rules are presented in sections titled "Procedures". It is true that this wasn't the case in rfc4328 (section 4.2). I'd suggest following one of the two existing precedents rather coming up with a third variant. - Lines 658-660. The normative language in 4328 isn't actually presented in the section titled "label distribution procedures" (or "rules" as section 4.2 is actually titled), so this paragraph doesn't make sense. I suggest either (a) defining the full set of required procedures in this document, or (b) referring to the "required processing defined in [RFC4328]" and other rfcs as appropriate. - Lines 662-667: what about generating upstream, suggested, label set, etc. Perhaps you should rephrase much into more general rules. - Line 682: by "learn" do you mean "identify"? - Lines 682-685: Who is this learning/identification accomplished? - Lines 703-704: If this is the normative section defining requirement processing, the procedures need to be spelled out for all required cases. - Lines 706-707: I think this needs to be rephrased to be clear what behavior is required for a node to be conformant with this sentence. - Lines 711-714: why "SHOULD" vs "MUST"? - Line 712: By "integrity of the label" do you mean "if the label is acceptable"? - Line 725: By "reserved resource" do you mean "indicated resource"? - Line 726: Does "do not match" mean "inconsistent"? - Line 730, Drop "As". - Section 6.4: Missing conformance language. - Lines 758-759: This reads like an informative statement, but includes conformance language. How does a node conform? I suggest rephrasing to be clear. - Line 761: Why not just make this a MUST? - Line 763: "SHOULD" --> "MUST" - lines 768-779: Should either contain conformance language or pointers to existing language. - Line 783: Why not MUST? - Section 9, should also reference 4328 and cover delta in information and added risks. - Section 10: This section needs some work. (I'm assuming your familiar with rfc5226). - Is it time to create a "Signal Type" registry? That's it on this document. Lou - On 10/8/2012 4:47 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > This mail begins a two week working group last call on: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-09 > (Informational) > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-04 > (Informational) > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3-03 > (Standards Track) > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-04 > (Standards Track) > > This working group last call ends on October 22. Comments should be > sent to the CCAMP mailing list. Please remember to include the > technical basis for any comments. > > Please note that we're still missing a few IPR statements, and look > for these to come in during the LC period. 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(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:23:25 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: References: <20121022120723.30826.91811.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20121022120723.30826.91811.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:23:24 +0100 Message-ID: <0d7101cdb050$086dd3a0$19497ae0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJ5bqQYk+l4WjO9osFoZLG+mZMShJZtvzVg Content-Language: en-gb Subject: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-farrkingel-ccamp-flexigrid-lambda-label-04.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:23:30 -0000 Now that G.694.1 revision 2 has been published by the ITU-T we have done a bit of a scrub of this draft. Most of the changes are cosmetic, but we have also added some text that recognises that the 'm' parameter plays a role in the description of traffic parameters(i.e. bandwidth). Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: 22 October 2012 13:07 > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Subject: I-D Action: draft-farrkingel-ccamp-flexigrid-lambda-label-04.txt > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > > Title : Generalized Labels for the Flexi-Grid in Lambda-Switch- > Capable (LSC) Label Switching Routers > Author(s) : Daniel King > Adrian Farrel > Yao Li > Zhang Fei > Ramon Casellas > Filename : draft-farrkingel-ccamp-flexigrid-lambda-label-04.txt > > Abstract: > GMPLS supports the description of optical switching by identifying > entries in fixed lists of switchable wavelengths (called grids) > through the encoding of lambda labels. New work within the ITU-T > Study Group 15 has defined a finer granularity grid, and the facility > to flexibly select different width amounts of spectrum from the grid. > This document defines a new GMPLS lambda label format to support this > flexi-grid. > > This document updates RFC 3471 and RFC 6205 by introducing a new > label format. > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-farrkingel-ccamp-flexigrid-lambda-label From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Oct 22 09:22:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E7A21F8B91; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 09:22:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.537 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.537 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.062, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sRcOYdhrjw2S; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 09:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695C921F8B45; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 09:22:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121022162243.23965.32015.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 09:22:43 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling-04.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:22:44 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Work= ing Group of the IETF. Title : Signaling Extensions for Wavelength Switched Optical Net= works Author(s) : Greg M. Bernstein Sugang Xu Young Lee Giovanni Martinelli Hiroaki Harai Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling-04.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2012-10-22 Abstract: This memo provides extensions to Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) signaling for control of wavelength switched optical networks (WSON). Such extensions are necessary in WSONs under a number of conditions including: (a) when optional processing, such as regeneration, must be configured to occur at specific nodes along a path, (b) where equipment must be configured to accept an optical signal with specific attributes, or (c) where equipment must be configured to output an optical signal with specific attributes. In addition this memo provides mechanisms to support distributed wavelength assignment with bidirectional LSPs, and choice in distributed wavelength assignment algorithms. These extensions build on previous work for the control of lambda and G.709 based networks. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling-04 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Oct 22 16:53:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167E711E8139; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:53:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.573 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.573 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.026, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r5g9WLRzW2IL; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776B811E8134; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:53:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121022235308.5547.71185.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:53:08 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-srlg-collect-01.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 23:53:10 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Work= ing Group of the IETF. Title : RSVP-TE Extensions for Collecting SRLG Information Author(s) : Fatai Zhang Dan Li Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Cyril Margaria Matt Hartley Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-srlg-collect-01.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2012-10-22 Abstract: This document provides extensions for the Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) to support automatic collection of Shared Risk Link Group (SRLG) Information for the TE link formed by a LSP. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-srlg-collect There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-srlg-collect-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-srlg-collect-01 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From mach.chen@huawei.com Tue Oct 23 02:08:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B6F21F8662; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:08:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.508 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.508 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=4.639, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8=0.152] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xo+nSNtBHu3p; 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bh=UihIGY9rn/vJdlqtBca9e5Mp1nMjq/xnY53xi0uwnGk=; b=Cn5DiDWEvyaRVFxFdqEgnThLvV2eGZd2cG3U4JI0T8fa52yqn4okKmWenPNhpzscq1WByUgLCqutyXwPunQYkFLpCJk5nZmW01aTZ/7hHlO/KhPdOMI79HU4L8C+zOo8; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:35931 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TQlH6-0003Wq-Vu for ccamp@ietf.org; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:40:33 -0600 Message-ID: <508700BC.4050309@labn.net> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:40:28 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CCAMP References: <50733BED.8090304@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <50733BED.8090304@labn.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG Last Call: g709-framework, g709-info-model, ospf-g709v3, signaling-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:41:04 -0000 The last call on these documents have ended. Authors, Please complete the discussion(s) needed to address all issues raised during the LC (both on-list and privately) and update the drafts accordingly. Once each update is submitted, please summarize all changes to the list (per document/submission). Much thanks, Lou (and Deborah) PS We're still missing some IPR statements from contributors. If you're listed in one of the documents *even as a contributor* you'll need to respond to my message on IPR, even if missed you in the request e-mail! On 10/8/2012 4:47 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > This mail begins a two week working group last call on: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-09 > (Informational) > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-04 > (Informational) > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3-03 > (Standards Track) > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-04 > (Standards Track) > > This working group last call ends on October 22. Comments should be > sent to the CCAMP mailing list. Please remember to include the > technical basis for any comments. > > Please note that we're still missing a few IPR statements, and look > for these to come in during the LC period. Any forthcoming publication > request will be delayed by late IPR statements/disclosures. > > Thank you, > Lou (and Deborah) > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > From lberger@labn.net Wed Oct 24 09:40:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFB121F8C45 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:40:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.371 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.371 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.894, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9SUH7CpEdf4N for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (oproxy9.bluehost.com [69.89.24.6]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DF4B21F8C35 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4296 invoked by uid 0); 24 Oct 2012 16:40:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2012 16:40:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=xpOQSTWAgLgf3NW1U18t/FBJ16QFO9p39D2yrgB156w=; b=zvHkftD0JLNphMK1IpYv5r4oBItqEpia/Ikevlu/pLagIrY61IPf/oiIbO7ZVPNtn1Pb18Al9N4t4oYhOOyzVE+Q4gnMuvuspIa/4k+d5KlmeRNV9n3Vf+2ros9dGv1p; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:37363 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TR3zw-0001Dr-VB; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:40:05 -0600 Message-ID: <508819E1.1080203@labn.net> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:40:01 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com, francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com References: <5065B22D.5050808@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <5065B22D.5050808@labn.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:40:32 -0000 Hello, If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft as an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message included below. Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If you answer yes, please also state: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. Thank you, Lou On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) > > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. > > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs > > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > From lberger@labn.net Wed Oct 24 09:40:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F372021F8C4E for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:40:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.384 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.384 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.881, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id caWvHWW7+SXJ for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (oproxy9.bluehost.com [69.89.24.6]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 524DE21F8BCC for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5266 invoked by uid 0); 24 Oct 2012 16:40:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2012 16:40:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=GqmKh+kb1jPM5miUiA0ISPbJKzlU6AGThMwdkLA056A=; b=anOJfgU00mGmNEW/bVf4qPP9RCkZYI6A+5vbT3sLfbkYSBMbjysQ6u9Sa1czQ4Wbd8KKcuJSPKlX4YeVgO5COb7cyPs0E16H8jUoV3G4M35TnGU1gwK1KcksM3CnP5BO; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:37385 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TR406-0001J7-Hs; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:40:14 -0600 Message-ID: <508819EA.3010401@labn.net> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:40:10 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com, corsi.marco@gmail.com, eve.varma@alcatel-lucent.com, jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com, lyong@ciena.com, akunjidhapatham@infinera.com, sbardalai@infinera.com, Steve.Balls@metaswitch.com, Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com, fu.xihua@zte.com.cn, cyril.margaria@nsn.com, Malcolm.betts@zte.com.cn References: <5065B232.1020908@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <5065B232.1020908@labn.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:40:37 -0000 Hello, If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft as an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message included below. Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If you answer yes, please also state: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. Thank you, Lou On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&document_search=draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) > > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. > > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs > > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > From lberger@labn.net Wed Oct 24 09:40:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B54F21F8C7C for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:40:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.564 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.564 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.035, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gMMZ4kypty3q for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com [50.87.16.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B709921F8C35 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12822 invoked by uid 0); 24 Oct 2012 16:40:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy12.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2012 16:40:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=eGDDncioNqvSTVMHPPtRr5T1F4GQGbBKqzWqnf7q5u8=; b=mQ8cM6Yt+JGwXqh59sigWjHxSxoMVBLmnHWZNUs3HChA+9ektTxr+sxUIwyxZLJLmioR3uxx8c2XiOW0COZnnJg4vKni4Ur+JGjlC4igksunKwCmeqVNq/ELY65sKqt9; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:37394 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TR40A-0001Kt-4Q; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:40:18 -0600 Message-ID: <508819EE.6050303@labn.net> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:40:14 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com, kam.lam@alcatel-lucent.com, francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com, lyong@ciena.com, blu@infinera.com, pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.it References: <5065B236.9080009@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <5065B236.9080009@labn.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:40:42 -0000 Hello, If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft as an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message included below. Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If you answer yes, please also state: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. Thank you, Lou On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&document_search=draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) > > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. > > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs > > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > From pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com Wed Oct 24 09:45:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF7121F8903 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:45:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jjXyI2TLLKW5 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail3.alcatel.fr (smail3.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BCC21F88F9 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.64]) by smail3.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q9OGiTOM030471 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:45:11 +0200 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSB1.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.43]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.64]) with mapi; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:45:10 +0200 From: "GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO)" To: Lou Berger , "jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com" , "Lam, Hing-Kam (Kam)" , "francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com" , "lyong@ciena.com" , "blu@infinera.com" Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:45:09 +0200 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 Thread-Index: Ac2yBkWvczhqRVCGTOu8mQGwv1WVFAAAKWzA Message-ID: References: <5065B236.9080009@labn.net> <508819EE.6050303@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <508819EE.6050303@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.83 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:45:18 -0000 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Pietro Vittorio Grandi Terrestrial Optics Portfolio Evolution Alcatel-Lucent Vimercate (Italy) Tel: +39 039 686 4930 Mail: pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's rel= ativity. (A. Einstein) -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Sent: mercoled=EC 24 ottobre 2012 18.40 To: jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com; Lam, Hing-Kam (Kam); francesco.fondelli@er= icsson.com; lyong@ciena.com; blu@infinera.com; GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIE= TRO VITTORIO) Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709= v3 Hello, If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft as an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message included below. Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If you answer yes, please also state: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. Thank you, Lou On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&documen= t_search=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) >=20 > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3? >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. >=20 > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. >=20 > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs >=20 > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com Wed Oct 24 09:45:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4BE21F8903 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:45:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.200, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7ZRefkzo1XjJ for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail5.alcatel.fr (smail5.alcatel.fr [62.23.212.27]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B96B21F8944 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.61]) by smail5.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q9OGjRe2003593 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:45:31 +0200 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSB1.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.43]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.61]) with mapi; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:45:28 +0200 From: "GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO)" To: Lou Berger , "jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com" , "francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com" Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:45:27 +0200 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model Thread-Index: Ac2yBk3Vv7Rphan9Tz6119WTXcvg4QAAKhmw Message-ID: References: <5065B22D.5050808@labn.net> <508819E1.1080203@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <508819E1.1080203@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.13 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:45:38 -0000 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Pietro Vittorio Grandi Terrestrial Optics Portfolio Evolution Alcatel-Lucent Vimercate (Italy) Tel: +39 039 686 4930 Mail: pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's rel= ativity. (A. Einstein) -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of L= ou Berger Sent: mercoled=EC 24 ottobre 2012 18.40 To: jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com; francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model Hello, If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft as an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message included below. Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If you answer yes, please also state: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. Thank you, Lou On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) >=20 > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model? >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. >=20 > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. >=20 > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs >=20 > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com Wed Oct 24 09:45:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD40421F89F4 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:45:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pmXHZ1+YBFhR for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail5.alcatel.fr (smail5.alcatel.fr [62.23.212.27]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B8821F894D for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.61]) by smail5.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q9OGjReE003593 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:45:39 +0200 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSB1.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.43]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.61]) with mapi; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:45:35 +0200 From: "GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO)" To: Lou Berger , "francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com" , "corsi.marco@gmail.com" , "Varma, Eve L (Eve)" , "jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com" , "lyong@ciena.com" , "akunjidhapatham@infinera.com" , "sbardalai@infinera.com" , "Steve.Balls@metaswitch.com" , "Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com" , "fu.xihua@zte.com.cn" , "cyril.margaria@nsn.com" , "Malcolm.betts@zte.com.cn" Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:45:34 +0200 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 Thread-Index: Ac2yBlE8hXERMcG8R0O2Fs5/a8On2QAAKl6A Message-ID: References: <5065B232.1020908@labn.net> <508819EA.3010401@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <508819EA.3010401@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.13 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:45:45 -0000 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Pietro Vittorio Grandi Terrestrial Optics Portfolio Evolution Alcatel-Lucent Vimercate (Italy) Tel: +39 039 686 4930 Mail: pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's rel= ativity. (A. Einstein) -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of L= ou Berger Sent: mercoled=EC 24 ottobre 2012 18.40 To: francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com; corsi.marco@gmail.com; Varma, Eve L (E= ve); jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com; lyong@ciena.com; akunjidhapatham@infinera= .com; sbardalai@infinera.com; Steve.Balls@metaswitch.com; Jonathan.Hardwick= @metaswitch.com; fu.xihua@zte.com.cn; cyril.margaria@nsn.com; Malcolm.betts= @zte.com.cn Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 Hello, If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft as an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message included below. Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If you answer yes, please also state: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. Thank you, Lou On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&documen= t_search=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) >=20 > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3? >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. >=20 > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. >=20 > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs >=20 > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com Wed Oct 24 09:56:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B67F21F86C4 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:56:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MbJlJzXs-0yn for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ENFICSETS1.metaswitch.com (enficsets1.metaswitch.com [192.91.191.38]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF0E21F8683 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ENFICSCAS1.datcon.co.uk (172.18.4.13) by ENFICSETS1.metaswitch.com (172.18.4.18) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.318.4; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:56:12 +0100 Received: from ENFICSMBX1.datcon.co.uk ([fe80::d5d5:c683:a3be:3a19]) by ENFICSCAS1.datcon.co.uk ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:56:13 +0100 From: Jonathan Hardwick To: labn - Lou Berger Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 Thread-Index: AQHNsgZAFYPJHktx7k2kAiYov7mqYJfIrMjg Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:56:13 +0000 Message-ID: <09CE6C3BE5E1EA40B987BF5F25D8DDBAB97E2314@ENFICSMBX1.datcon.co.uk> References: <5065B232.1020908@labn.net> <508819EA.3010401@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <508819EA.3010401@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.18.71.110] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:56:16 -0000 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Sent: 24 October 2012 17:40 To: francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com; corsi.marco@gmail.com; eve.varma@alcat= el-lucent.com; Tellabs - Jonathan Sadler; Ciena - Lyndon Ong; Infinera - As= hok Kunjidhapatham; Infinera - Snigdho Bardalai; Steve Balls; Jonathan Hard= wick; fu.xihua@zte.com.cn; NSN - Cyril Margaria; Malcolm.betts@zte.com.cn Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 Hello, If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft as an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message included below. Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If you answer yes, please also state: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. Thank you, Lou On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&documen= t_search=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) >=20 > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3? >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. >=20 > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. >=20 > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs >=20 > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From eve.varma@alcatel-lucent.com Wed Oct 24 09:56:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1AE21F880B for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:56:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hlXSkfBD5vN1 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail3.alcatel.fr (smail3.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB5A21F8691 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.62]) by smail3.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q9OGuifC001490 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:56:51 +0200 Received: from US70UWXCHHUB01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (135.5.2.48) by FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (135.120.45.62) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:56:36 +0200 Received: from US70UWXCHMBA05.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.10.26]) by US70UWXCHHUB01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.5.2.48]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:56:33 -0400 From: "Varma, Eve L (Eve)" To: "GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO)" , Lou Berger , "francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com" , "corsi.marco@gmail.com" , "jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com" , "lyong@ciena.com" , "akunjidhapatham@infinera.com" , "sbardalai@infinera.com" , "Steve.Balls@metaswitch.com" , "Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com" , "fu.xihua@zte.com.cn" , "cyril.margaria@nsn.com" , "Malcolm.betts@zte.com.cn" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 Thread-Index: AQHNsgZF2hoF4l14OkynrlhUzv3zspfI7PoA//+/7sA= Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:56:33 +0000 Message-ID: <6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D809836682@US70UWXCHMBA05.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <5065B232.1020908@labn.net> <508819EA.3010401@labn.net> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.5.27.17] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.83 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:56:57 -0000 I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. -----Original Message----- From: GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO)=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 12:46 PM To: Lou Berger; francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com; corsi.marco@gmail.com; Var= ma, Eve L (Eve); jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com; lyong@ciena.com; akunjidhapat= ham@infinera.com; sbardalai@infinera.com; Steve.Balls@metaswitch.com; Jonat= han.Hardwick@metaswitch.com; fu.xihua@zte.com.cn; cyril.margaria@nsn.com; M= alcolm.betts@zte.com.cn Cc: CCAMP Subject: RE: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Pietro Vittorio Grandi Terrestrial Optics Portfolio Evolution Alcatel-Lucent Vimercate (Italy) Tel: +39 039 686 4930 Mail: pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's rel= ativity. (A. Einstein) -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of L= ou Berger Sent: mercoled=EC 24 ottobre 2012 18.40 To: francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com; corsi.marco@gmail.com; Varma, Eve L (E= ve); jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com; lyong@ciena.com; akunjidhapatham@infinera= .com; sbardalai@infinera.com; Steve.Balls@metaswitch.com; Jonathan.Hardwick= @metaswitch.com; fu.xihua@zte.com.cn; cyril.margaria@nsn.com; Malcolm.betts= @zte.com.cn Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 Hello, If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft as an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message included below. Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If you answer yes, please also state: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. Thank you, Lou On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&documen= t_search=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) >=20 > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3? >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. >=20 > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. >=20 > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs >=20 > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From prvs=56445fa615=lyong@ciena.com Wed Oct 24 11:02:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCEBB21F8778 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:02:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.14 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.14 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.125, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mwpmcU5LV8X9 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com (mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com [67.231.144.234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CED21F8758 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0000419 [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q9OI0dXq001226; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:02:11 -0400 Received: from mdwexght01.ciena.com (LIN1-118-36-28.ciena.com [63.118.36.28]) by mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 186m9pr895-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:02:10 -0400 Received: from MDWVEXCHHT01.ciena.com (10.4.156.175) by MDWEXGHT01.ciena.com (10.4.140.138) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.279.5; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:02:11 -0400 Received: from MDWEXGMB02.ciena.com ([::1]) by MDWVEXCHHT01.ciena.com ([10.4.156.175]) with mapi; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:02:10 -0400 From: "Ong, Lyndon" To: Lou Berger , "francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com" , "corsi.marco@gmail.com" , "eve.varma@alcatel-lucent.com" , "jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com" , "akunjidhapatham@infinera.com" , "sbardalai@infinera.com" , "Steve.Balls@metaswitch.com" , "Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com" , "fu.xihua@zte.com.cn" , "cyril.margaria@nsn.com" , "Malcolm.betts@zte.com.cn" Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:02:00 -0400 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 Thread-Index: Ac2yBkQ0vFQ6gTnuQIWLxXSLzzilygAC18HQ Message-ID: References: <5065B232.1020908@labn.net> <508819EA.3010401@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <508819EA.3010401@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-10.0.0.1412-7.000.1014-19304.001 X-TM-AS-Result: No--26.747400-8.000000-31 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-10-24_05:2012-10-24, 2012-10-24, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=46 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1210240205 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:02:18 -0000 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Lyndon -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:40 AM To: francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com; corsi.marco@gmail.com; eve.varma@alcat= el-lucent.com; jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com; Ong, Lyndon; akunjidhapatham@in= finera.com; sbardalai@infinera.com; Steve.Balls@metaswitch.com; Jonathan.Ha= rdwick@metaswitch.com; fu.xihua@zte.com.cn; cyril.margaria@nsn.com; Malcolm= .betts@zte.com.cn Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 Hello, If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft as an A= uthor or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message includ= ed below. Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And state e= ither: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If you answer yes, please also state: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria= te. Thank you, Lou On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&docume > nt_search=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- >=20 > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) >=20 > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to=20 > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3? >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules=20 > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer=20 > the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you=20 > are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the=20 > next stage until a response has been received from each author and=20 > listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS=20 > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. >=20 > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author=20 > or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR=20 > rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR=20 > of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in=20 > any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For=20 > more information, please see the RFCs listed above and=20 > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. >=20 > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs >=20 > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your=20 > response. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From prvs=56445fa615=lyong@ciena.com Wed Oct 24 11:02:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E02D21F87FC for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:02:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.165 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.165 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KEEZhd681NtK for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0b-00103a01.pphosted.com (mx0b-00103a01.pphosted.com [67.231.152.227]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3F021F87DB for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0001124 [127.0.0.1]) by mx0b-00103a01.pphosted.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q9OI0QTs026607; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:02:21 -0400 Received: from mdwexght01.ciena.com (LIN1-118-36-28.ciena.com [63.118.36.28]) by mx0b-00103a01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 186jef8mk8-3 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:02:21 -0400 Received: from MDWEXGMB02.ciena.com ([::1]) by MDWEXGHT01.ciena.com ([::1]) with mapi; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:02:21 -0400 From: "Ong, Lyndon" To: Lou Berger , "jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com" , "kam.lam@alcatel-lucent.com" , "francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com" , "blu@infinera.com" , "pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.it" Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:02:20 -0400 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 Thread-Index: Ac2yBkQQqAbIxvr1S4K0XcvU8NvwnQAC2ysw Message-ID: References: <5065B236.9080009@labn.net> <508819EE.6050303@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <508819EE.6050303@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.0.0.1412-7.000.1014-19304.001 x-tm-as-result: No--47.653700-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-10-24_05:2012-10-24, 2012-10-24, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1210240205 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:02:34 -0000 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Lyndon -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:40 AM To: jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com; kam.lam@alcatel-lucent.com; francesco.fond= elli@ericsson.com; Ong, Lyndon; blu@infinera.com; pietro_vittorio.grandi@al= catel-lucent.it Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709= v3 Hello, If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft as an A= uthor or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message includ= ed below. Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And state e= ither: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If you answer yes, please also state: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria= te. Thank you, Lou On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&docume > nt_search=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- >=20 > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) >=20 > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to=20 > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3? >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules=20 > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer=20 > the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you=20 > are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the=20 > next stage until a response has been received from each author and=20 > listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS=20 > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. >=20 > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author=20 > or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR=20 > rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR=20 > of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in=20 > any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For=20 > more information, please see the RFCs listed above and=20 > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. >=20 > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs >=20 > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your=20 > response. > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From cyril.margaria@nsn.com Wed Oct 24 12:33:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECA221F893C for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:33:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.854 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.854 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.744, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 88nlzbjUU5cN for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (demumfd001.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.32]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC1321F8947 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.56]) by demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q9OJXGs3010483 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:33:16 +0200 Received: from demuexc022.nsn-intra.net (demuexc022.nsn-intra.net [10.150.128.35]) by demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q9OJXCVI020305; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:33:12 +0200 Received: from DEMUEXC013.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.128.24]) by demuexc022.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:33:13 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:33:11 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <508819EA.3010401@labn.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 Thread-Index: Ac2yBkTgOfYnoCpUQbeB47sObCd2jAAGB31A References: <5065B232.1020908@labn.net> <508819EA.3010401@labn.net> From: "Margaria, Cyril (NSN - DE/Munich)" To: "ext Lou Berger" , , , , , , , , , , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2012 19:33:13.0246 (UTC) FILETIME=[68502BE0:01CDB21E] X-purgate-type: clean X-purgate-Ad: Categorized by eleven eXpurgate (R) http://www.eleven.de X-purgate: clean X-purgate: This mail is considered clean (visit http://www.eleven.de for further information) X-purgate-size: 3357 X-purgate-ID: 151667::1351107196-000048BF-315705C2/0-0/0-0 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 19:33:29 -0000 I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen Cyril Margaria > -----Original Message----- > From: ext Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 6:40 PM > To: francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com; corsi.marco@gmail.com; > eve.varma@alcatel-lucent.com; jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com; > lyong@ciena.com; akunjidhapatham@infinera.com; sbardalai@infinera.com; > Steve.Balls@metaswitch.com; Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com; > fu.xihua@zte.com.cn; Margaria, Cyril (NSN - DE/Munich); > Malcolm.betts@zte.com.cn > Cc: CCAMP > Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf- > g709v3 >=20 > Hello, > If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above > draft as an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to > the message included below. >=20 > Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And > state either: > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" >=20 > If you answer yes, please also state: > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" >=20 > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. >=20 > Thank you, > Lou >=20 > On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > > = --------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > --- > > CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: > > > = https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&docume > > nt_search=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 > > = --------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > --- > > > > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) > > > > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: > > > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3? > > > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > > > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer > > the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not > you > > are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to = the > > next stage until a response has been received from each author and > > listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. > > > > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an = author > > or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR > > rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of = IPR > > of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating > in > > any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For > > more information, please see the RFCs listed above and > > = http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > > > Thank you, > > CCAMP WG Chairs > > > > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > > response. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CCAMP mailing list > > CCAMP@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > > > > > From lberger@labn.net Wed Oct 24 13:19:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C1621F8643 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:19:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.579 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.579 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.020, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rzuNh7whPVmp for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com [50.87.16.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D436321F863A for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 784 invoked by uid 0); 24 Oct 2012 20:19:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy12.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2012 20:19:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=JZLyCBOCZiVpCNYnx7RD020fd+ni9IjonbJVWA1sbQk=; b=EM/Ohm0Q0Ot+a76tjyPgtxYKVCLL7A75+NiljqP4PPnkM9y/AHtZ1dQAaOIIH/vs0IVPCcwSq9pgMXOSHvQAUP+Q++8gAurLld9vjnaLf1v3hh1w/TOSt3wvac7ArZbD; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:60257 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TR7Pt-0001B5-85 for ccamp@ietf.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:19:05 -0600 Message-ID: <50884D36.1000603@labn.net> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:19:02 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CCAMP X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Subject: [CCAMP] IETF 85 Draft Agenda Posted X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:19:29 -0000 All, The draft agenda for Atlanta is available at: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/agenda/agenda-85-ccamp Please let us (Daniele & Dan + chairs) know if you have comments or if we missed anything. Much thanks, Lou (Deborah, Daniele & Dan) From fu.xihua@zte.com.cn Wed Oct 24 18:46:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B40A21F852D for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:46:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tcO8PuQVI1Bs for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:46:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zte.com.cn (mx5.zte.com.cn [63.217.80.70]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B3D21F845F for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mse02.zte.com.cn (unknown [10.30.3.21]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id 3C1991258656; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:47:37 +0800 (CST) Received: from notes_smtp.zte.com.cn ([10.30.1.239]) by mse02.zte.com.cn with ESMTP id q9P1kUP2052895; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:46:30 +0800 (GMT-8) (envelope-from fu.xihua@zte.com.cn) In-Reply-To: <508819EA.3010401@labn.net> To: Lou Berger MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: fu.xihua@zte.com.cn Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:45:39 +0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on notes_smtp/zte_ltd(Release 8.5.3FP1 HF212|May 23, 2012) at 2012-10-25 09:46:26, Serialize complete at 2012-10-25 09:46:26 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0009C34E48257AA2_=" X-MAIL: mse02.zte.com.cn q9P1kUP2052895 Cc: CCAMP , sbardalai@infinera.com, akunjidhapatham@infinera.com, francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:46:46 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0009C34E48257AA2_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft > Hello, > If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft as > an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message > included below. > > Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And > state either: > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > If you answer yes, please also state: > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. > > Thank you, > Lou > > On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/? > option=document_search&document_search=draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) > > > > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: > > > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3? > > > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > > > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. > > > > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more > > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > > > Thank you, > > CCAMP WG Chairs > > > > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > > response. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CCAMP mailing list > > CCAMP@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > > > > > --=_alternative 0009C34E48257AA2_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft



> Hello,
>    If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft as
> an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message
> included below.
>
> Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And
> state either:
> "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
> or
> "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"
>
> If you answer yes, please also state:
> "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
> or
> "No, the IPR has not been disclosed"
>
> If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
> appropriate.
>
> Thank you,
> Lou
>
> On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote:
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?
> option=document_search&document_search=draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP)
> >
> > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call:
> >
> > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to
> > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3?
> >
> > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
> > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?
> >
> > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
> > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
> > aware of any relevant IPR.  This document will not advance to the next
> > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
> > contributor.  NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS
> > MESSAGE'S TO LINES.
> >
> > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or
> > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules
> > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of
> > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any
> > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR.  For more
> > information, please see the RFCs listed above and
> > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > CCAMP WG Chairs
> >
> > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your
> > response.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CCAMP mailing list
> > CCAMP@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp
> >
> >
> >
> >
--=_alternative 0009C34E48257AA2_=-- From Jonathan.Sadler@tellabs.com Thu Oct 25 01:29:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B51B21F8995 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:29:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.094 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.094 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.505, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sa3rkmAzzhET for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tx2outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (tx2ehsobe004.messaging.microsoft.com [65.55.88.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D7A21F8992 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail174-tx2-R.bigfish.com (10.9.14.246) by TX2EHSOBE008.bigfish.com (10.9.40.28) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:29:34 +0000 Received: from mail174-tx2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail174-tx2-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812CA3200D5; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:29:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:204.154.129.192; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:usnvwwmspedge01.tellabs-west.tellabsinc.net; RD:none; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -28 X-BigFish: VPS-28(zzbb2dI98dI9371I8fcdK542M1432Izz1202h1d1ah1d2ahz70kz1033IL6d524h17326ah8275dhz2ei2a8h668h839h944hd25hf0ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1504h1537h153bh1155h) Received-SPF: neutral (mail174-tx2: 204.154.129.192 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of tellabs.com) client-ip=204.154.129.192; envelope-from=Jonathan.Sadler@tellabs.com; helo=usnvwwmspedge01.tellabs-west.tellabsinc.net ; llabsinc.net ; Received: from mail174-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail174-tx2 (MessageSwitch) id 1351153760254997_2925; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TX2EHSMHS038.bigfish.com (unknown [10.9.14.243]) by mail174-tx2.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3889936004C; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from usnvwwmspedge01.tellabs-west.tellabsinc.net (204.154.129.192) by TX2EHSMHS038.bigfish.com (10.9.99.138) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:29:13 +0000 Received: from usnvwwmspht01.tellabs-west.tellabsinc.net (172.23.211.69) by usnvwwmspedge01.tellabs-west.tellabsinc.net (204.154.131.192) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.192.1; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 03:29:06 -0500 Received: from EX-NAP.tellabs-west.tellabsinc.net ([172.23.211.71]) by usnvwwmspht01.tellabs-west.tellabsinc.net ([172.23.211.69]) with mapi; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 03:29:12 -0500 From: "Sadler, Jonathan B." To: Lou Berger , "francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com" , "corsi.marco@gmail.com" , "eve.varma@alcatel-lucent.com" , "lyong@ciena.com" , "akunjidhapatham@infinera.com" , "sbardalai@infinera.com" , "Steve.Balls@metaswitch.com" , "Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com" , "fu.xihua@zte.com.cn" , "cyril.margaria@nsn.com" , "Malcolm.betts@zte.com.cn" Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 03:29:09 -0500 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 Thread-Index: Ac2yBmR0qjOIAetQQjOdgm05HNdgGQAg17Yg Message-ID: <5292FFA96EC22A4386067E9DBCC0CD2B01417B6B6566@EX-NAP.tellabs-west.tellabsinc.net> References: <5065B232.1020908@labn.net> <508819EA.3010401@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <508819EA.3010401@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: tellabs.com Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:29:36 -0000 Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules. -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:40 AM To: francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com; corsi.marco@gmail.com; eve.varma@alcat= el-lucent.com; Sadler, Jonathan B.; lyong@ciena.com; akunjidhapatham@infine= ra.com; sbardalai@infinera.com; Steve.Balls@metaswitch.com; Jonathan.Hardwi= ck@metaswitch.com; fu.xihua@zte.com.cn; cyril.margaria@nsn.com; Malcolm.bet= ts@zte.com.cn Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 Hello, If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft = as an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message included below. Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If you answer yes, please also state: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. Thank you, Lou On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&documen= t_search=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) > > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. > > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. 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Tellabs =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From Jonathan.Sadler@tellabs.com Thu Oct 25 01:29:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444D521F8999 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:29:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.429 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.429 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.170, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id asx4B0X9+sfR for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ch1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (ch1ehsobe001.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.181.181]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6090821F8995 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail145-ch1-R.bigfish.com (10.43.68.232) by CH1EHSOBE017.bigfish.com (10.43.70.67) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:29:36 +0000 Received: from mail145-ch1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail145-ch1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A775842011D; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:29:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:204.154.129.150; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:usnvwwmspedge02.tellabs-west.tellabsinc.net; RD:none; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -31 X-BigFish: VPS-31(zzbb2dI98dI9371I8fcdK542M1432Izz1202h1d1ah1d2ahzz1033IL17326ah8275dhz2ei2a8h668h839h944hd25hf0ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1504h1537h153bh1155h) Received-SPF: neutral (mail145-ch1: 204.154.129.150 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of tellabs.com) client-ip=204.154.129.150; envelope-from=Jonathan.Sadler@tellabs.com; helo=usnvwwmspedge02.tellabs-west.tellabsinc.net ; llabsinc.net ; Received: from mail145-ch1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail145-ch1 (MessageSwitch) id 1351153774594299_30210; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CH1EHSMHS042.bigfish.com (snatpool1.int.messaging.microsoft.com [10.43.68.246]) by mail145-ch1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E74B2400B4; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from usnvwwmspedge02.tellabs-west.tellabsinc.net (204.154.129.150) by CH1EHSMHS042.bigfish.com (10.43.69.251) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:29:31 +0000 Received: from usnvwwmspht02.tellabs-west.tellabsinc.net (172.23.211.70) by usnvwwmspedge02.tellabs-west.tellabsinc.net (204.154.131.191) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.83.0; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 03:29:14 -0500 Received: from EX-NAP.tellabs-west.tellabsinc.net ([172.23.211.71]) by usnvwwmspht02.tellabs-west.tellabsinc.net ([172.23.211.70]) with mapi; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 03:29:31 -0500 From: "Sadler, Jonathan B." To: Lou Berger , "kam.lam@alcatel-lucent.com" , "francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com" , "lyong@ciena.com" , "blu@infinera.com" , "pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.it" Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 03:29:28 -0500 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 Thread-Index: Ac2yBlApnst4H+opRMeo6DOLWS4DxgAhIg8g Message-ID: <5292FFA96EC22A4386067E9DBCC0CD2B01417B6B6567@EX-NAP.tellabs-west.tellabsinc.net> References: <5065B236.9080009@labn.net> <508819EE.6050303@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <508819EE.6050303@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: tellabs.com Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:29:38 -0000 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:40 AM To: Sadler, Jonathan B.; kam.lam@alcatel-lucent.com; francesco.fondelli@eri= csson.com; lyong@ciena.com; blu@infinera.com; pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcate= l-lucent.it Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709= v3 Hello, If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft = as an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message included below. Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If you answer yes, please also state: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. Thank you, Lou On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&documen= t_search=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) > > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. > > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs > > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reproduction, dissemination or distribution of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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Tellabs =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From Malcolm.BETTS@zte.com.cn Thu Oct 25 08:38:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B47B21F8929 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:38:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id llstcBhlUP0L for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zte.com.cn (mx6.zte.com.cn [95.130.199.165]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559DB21F8928 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zte.com.cn (unknown [192.168.168.119]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTP id EDA2B5C261 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:38:46 +0800 (CST) Received: from mse01.zte.com.cn (unknown [10.30.3.20]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id 98D88721059; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:35:55 +0800 (CST) Received: from notes_smtp.zte.com.cn ([10.30.1.239]) by mse01.zte.com.cn with ESMTP id q9PFcRNV026028; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:38:27 +0800 (GMT-8) (envelope-from Malcolm.BETTS@zte.com.cn) In-Reply-To: References: <508819EA.3010401@labn.net> To: fu.xihua@zte.com.cn MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KeepSent: FB30AA41:789B0BC2-85257AA2:0055C394; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.5.1 September 28, 2009 Message-ID: From: Malcolm.BETTS@zte.com.cn Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:38:03 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on notes_smtp/zte_ltd(Release 8.5.3FP1 HF212|May 23, 2012) at 2012-10-25 23:38:22, Serialize complete at 2012-10-25 23:38:22 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0055E93A85257AA2_=" X-MAIL: mse01.zte.com.cn q9PFcRNV026028 Cc: CCAMP , sbardalai@infinera.com, akunjidhapatham@infinera.com, francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:38:49 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0055E93A85257AA2_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" No, I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Regards, Malcolm FuXiHua117829/user/zte_ltd 24/10/2012 09:45 PM To Lou Berger cc akunjidhapatham@infinera.com, CCAMP , corsi.marco@gmail.com, cyril.margaria@nsn.com, eve.varma@alcatel-lucent.com, francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com, Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com, jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com, lyong@ciena.com, Malcolm.betts@zte.com.cn, sbardalai@infinera.com, Steve.Balls@metaswitch.com Subject Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft > Hello, > If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft as > an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message > included below. > > Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And > state either: > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > If you answer yes, please also state: > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. > > Thank you, > Lou > > On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/? > option=document_search&document_search=draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) > > > > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: > > > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3? > > > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > > > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. > > > > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more > > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > > > Thank you, > > CCAMP WG Chairs > > > > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > > response. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CCAMP mailing list > > CCAMP@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > > > > > --=_alternative 0055E93A85257AA2_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" No, I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Regards,

Malcolm



FuXiHua117829/user/zte_ltd

24/10/2012 09:45 PM

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Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3Link






No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft



> Hello,
>    If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft as
> an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message
> included below.
>
> Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And
> state either:
> "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
> or
> "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"
>
> If you answer yes, please also state:
> "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
> or
> "No, the IPR has not been disclosed"
>
> If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
> appropriate.
>
> Thank you,
> Lou
>
> On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote:
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?
> option=document_search&document_search=draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP)
> >
> > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call:
> >
> > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to
> > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3?
> >
> > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
> > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?
> >
> > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
> > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
> > aware of any relevant IPR.  This document will not advance to the next
> > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
> > contributor.  NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS
> > MESSAGE'S TO LINES.
> >
> > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or
> > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules
> > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of
> > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any
> > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR.  For more
> > information, please see the RFCs listed above and
> > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > CCAMP WG Chairs
> >
> > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your
> > response.
> >
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--=_alternative 0055E93A85257AA2_=-- From cyril.margaria@nsn.com Thu Oct 25 12:30:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185E121F879C for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:30:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.227 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.227 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.372, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id luMLL4uQ1eQr for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (demumfd002.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.31]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480D121F8758 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.56]) by demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q9PJUSJU021106 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:30:28 +0200 Received: from demuexc022.nsn-intra.net (demuexc022.nsn-intra.net [10.150.128.35]) by demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q9PJURIM007207 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:30:28 +0200 Received: from DEMUEXC013.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.128.24]) by demuexc022.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:29:49 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:29:47 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20121022184618.22645.28758.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: New version of LSP attribute in ERO draft, review and comments welcomed (draft-margaria-ccamp-lsp-attribute-ero-02.txt) Thread-Index: Ac2whY0P8QrysSp+TCqphkWS34hSRwCYFWGQ References: <20121022184618.22645.28758.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: "Margaria, Cyril (NSN - DE/Munich)" To: "CCAMP" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2012 19:29:49.0499 (UTC) FILETIME=[194898B0:01CDB2E7] X-purgate-type: clean X-purgate-Ad: Categorized by eleven eXpurgate (R) http://www.eleven.de X-purgate: clean X-purgate: This mail is considered clean (visit http://www.eleven.de for further information) X-purgate-size: 2151 X-purgate-ID: 151667::1351193428-00006DFC-EDC8B8A4/0-0/0-0 Subject: [CCAMP] New version of LSP attribute in ERO draft, review and comments welcomed (draft-margaria-ccamp-lsp-attribute-ero-02.txt) X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 19:30:30 -0000 Hi,=20 We published a revised version of the draft addressing the WG comment.=20 The solution is using a SERO-like mechanism, the solution is relatively = short,=20 review and comments would be very welcomed. Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen Cyril Margaria > -----Original Message----- > From: i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:i-d-announce- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 8:46 PM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Subject: I-D Action: draft-margaria-ccamp-lsp-attribute-ero-02.txt >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. >=20 >=20 > Title : LSP Attribute in ERO > Author(s) : Cyril Margaria > Dirk Schroetter > Giovanni Martinelli > Steve Balls > Ben Wright > Filename : draft-margaria-ccamp-lsp-attribute-ero-02.txt > Pages : 16 > Date : 2012-10-22 >=20 > Abstract: > LSP attributes can be specified or recorded for whole path, but = they > cannot be targeted to a specific hop. This document proposes > alternative ways to extend the semantic for RSVP ERO object to > target > LSP attributes to a specific hop. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-margaria-ccamp-lsp-attribute-ero >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-margaria-ccamp-lsp-attribute-ero-02 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-margaria-ccamp-lsp-attribute- > ero-02 >=20 >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt From akunjidhapatham@infinera.com Thu Oct 25 21:56:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA93521F84BB for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:56:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2qDmK9D+PONV for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sv-casht-prod2.infinera.com (sv-casht-prod2.infinera.com [8.4.225.25]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F3F21F84A6 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SV-EXDB-PROD1.infinera.com ([fe80::dc68:4e20:6002:a8f9]) by sv-casht-prod2.infinera.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:56:28 -0700 From: Ashok Kunjidhapatham To: Lou Berger , "francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com" , "corsi.marco@gmail.com" , "eve.varma@alcatel-lucent.com" , "jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com" , "lyong@ciena.com" , "Snigdho Bardalai" , "Steve.Balls@metaswitch.com" , "Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com" , "fu.xihua@zte.com.cn" , "cyril.margaria@nsn.com" , "Malcolm.betts@zte.com.cn" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 Thread-Index: AQHNsgZA6duFWv10HUGp8lJmp57hWpfLB71w Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 04:56:28 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5065B232.1020908@labn.net> <508819EA.3010401@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <508819EA.3010401@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.100.96.93] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 04:56:30 -0000 Yes, the IPR has been disclosed already. -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:40 AM To: francesco.fondelli@ericsson.com; corsi.marco@gmail.com; eve.varma@alcat= el-lucent.com; jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com; lyong@ciena.com; Ashok Kunjidha= patham; Snigdho Bardalai; Steve.Balls@metaswitch.com; Jonathan.Hardwick@met= aswitch.com; fu.xihua@zte.com.cn; cyril.margaria@nsn.com; Malcolm.betts@zte= .com.cn Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 Hello, If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft as an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message included below. Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If you answer yes, please also state: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. Thank you, Lou On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&documen= t_search=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) >=20 > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3? >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. >=20 > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. >=20 > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs >=20 > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From francesco.fondelli@gmail.com Fri Oct 26 01:52:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED7621F84FA for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:52:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vu3jKX2uL+it for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pa0-f44.google.com (mail-pa0-f44.google.com [209.85.220.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593DA21F84F6 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fb11so1775745pad.31 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:52:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=rYxGXlyWT9vFleGymhy16aY6gUaDlEUbF8drNz/DN4U=; b=E6EC1VnUzUKqs19qv0EiUXBUBxCbKPEopxpjAEw6K8MH3Cj+j454EHZEIpsPqrpRQO Ej88CnUfpwjD0LnRSwtNOGvBw2CxkrVUdAWnpu2zTE/1+BdVdibxqCmkSdt84XaL3hbH sGcGld8BSxfrLxxlL5cLyijXDd997G3yYTnn3q064DvFtmDxvGvaXJJpgizOWI7Lm2Iu fdcj/Gl+CIFucPi/R7DVwNKG5VJdYkKrAnDM6oW9zrtVhxyz+YODBzh18Wq0mLoGImJt h0s5MbzMBs/jsuRS+1tEXCYMaTOEy4io1yBR8Y55Ay1DLVrHYzMwPE/1gwIQVZ1hj9la L5Ew== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.131.39 with SMTP id oj7mr66675137pbb.148.1351241559105; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.100.163 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:52:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <508819EE.6050303@labn.net> References: <5065B236.9080009@labn.net> <508819EE.6050303@labn.net> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:52:39 +0200 Message-ID: From: Francesco Fondelli To: Lou Berger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:52:40 -0000 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Ciao Fra On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > Hello, > If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft as > an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message > included below. > > Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And > state either: > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > If you answer yes, please also state: > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. > > Thank you, > Lou > > On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&document_search=draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) >> >> As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: >> >> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to >> draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3? >> >> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? >> >> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the >> above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are >> aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next >> stage until a response has been received from each author and listed >> contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS >> MESSAGE'S TO LINES. >> >> If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or >> contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules >> which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of >> others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any >> contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more >> information, please see the RFCs listed above and >> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. >> >> Thank you, >> CCAMP WG Chairs >> >> PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your >> response. >> _______________________________________________ >> CCAMP mailing list >> CCAMP@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From francesco.fondelli@gmail.com Fri Oct 26 01:52:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F15121F8507 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:52:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RvTvJsBKshdJ for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-da0-f44.google.com (mail-da0-f44.google.com [209.85.210.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13F521F8503 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-da0-f44.google.com with SMTP id h15so1196365dan.31 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:52:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=OesC1sCV581SfSnLuKZPWwMTSXksvpMnOx69uuhWblY=; b=siZlwsp74cY65qycTK28HElCOvh7Gt2CokynFY1TYHw2SZWw8QKPoBVBvpo+5PCuQW HTv4ntdbWooSQIl4MYbeN6xpsfPLGrpUbXiOK7xoW9X/l8MYvLaVpmMFafydZfpN16jO 5Ft3WiTsmxzTd7Qvr89WMdsu3G2VWTe29/puAhEWsgChvHeD++fmqkE4EnWdIzlV3kCf ag07r53fJv7pu0q+bpvwjIhtjAKiYksS4aevmQhVnkLNiSEQEO/RkMkiczL5fpMPJ2pF AF2+wcieVpBd05e2JHA8StJOlRVArrNYz4rmPCQlUBootGDZ/4YjyDlSf33realiqmDA qefw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.234.7 with SMTP id ua7mr68669349pbc.91.1351241570470; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.100.163 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:52:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <508819EA.3010401@labn.net> References: <5065B232.1020908@labn.net> <508819EA.3010401@labn.net> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:52:50 +0200 Message-ID: From: Francesco Fondelli To: Lou Berger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:52:51 -0000 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Ciao Fra On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > Hello, > If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft as > an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message > included below. > > Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And > state either: > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > If you answer yes, please also state: > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. > > Thank you, > Lou > > On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> CCAMP: Please note there are IPR disclosures: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&document_search=draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) >> >> As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: >> >> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to >> draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3? >> >> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? >> >> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the >> above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are >> aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next >> stage until a response has been received from each author and listed >> contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS >> MESSAGE'S TO LINES. >> >> If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or >> contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules >> which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of >> others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any >> contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more >> information, please see the RFCs listed above and >> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. >> >> Thank you, >> CCAMP WG Chairs >> >> PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your >> response. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CCAMP mailing list >> CCAMP@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From francesco.fondelli@gmail.com Fri Oct 26 01:53:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3046521F850B for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:53:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WcTxwP4QShNS for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E66E21F8503 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id ro8so2611800pbb.31 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:53:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=OOrsUzb39RMsgbTBtqPe+7S51ydk3tWOwoypTDUmY0Q=; b=jodVg8EGuEjXs9C9j0YaLYS0BHigFp1OGGuNSGGeXCeyVnu1KmKNRp528mUzAya++N POkF0Bx/5Xv0qR0LKTaBitkvG6v/5JBzhmeOXWEClm57S6WO4gH1LCw8o82H0q5uT0dT KRrt87ej9W84DORr5ZnBBYZ85hrL9iDxNfwxBvw4HBsYfDx2isG6pU3fjBM6pULudVPk RVXxjzqbeuMokeatjjJ06FHsKqBdq37YmUrE0HpPfwx99To7ReyeXqghsvjrrKJC/2CT Z3WQ7NfjBtpFd1jEVpuQ9JM8gfnZ+C43CXrVKWk6o3xZjZOHwqOZj74+FMFskKlZCvJY TElw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.85.133 with SMTP id h5mr60421740paz.10.1351241584060; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.100.163 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 01:53:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <508819E1.1080203@labn.net> References: <5065B22D.5050808@labn.net> <508819E1.1080203@labn.net> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:53:04 +0200 Message-ID: From: Francesco Fondelli To: Lou Berger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: CCAMP Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:53:12 -0000 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Ciao Fra On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > Hello, > If you are listed on the to line you are listed in the above draft as > an Author or Contributor and I believe have not responded to the message > included below. > > Can you please respond to this message (and leave CCAMP cc'ed). And > state either: > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > If you answer yes, please also state: > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. > > Thank you, > Lou > > On 9/28/2012 10:20 AM, Lou Berger wrote: >> Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) >> >> As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: >> >> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to >> draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model? >> >> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? >> >> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the >> above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are >> aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next >> stage until a response has been received from each author and listed >> contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS >> MESSAGE'S TO LINES. >> >> If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or >> contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules >> which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of >> others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any >> contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more >> information, please see the RFCs listed above and >> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. >> >> Thank you, >> CCAMP WG Chairs >> >> PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your >> response. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CCAMP mailing list >> CCAMP@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From lberger@labn.net Fri Oct 26 06:22:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8AF21F8751 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 06:22:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.438 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.438 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.827, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mv7TN5EoTghJ for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 06:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F71421F8704 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 06:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15957 invoked by uid 0); 26 Oct 2012 13:22:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 26 Oct 2012 13:22:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=A9SMD/29vpVr+tWLPk/Tcjgv2XND9TZ6s0gCfh5TMiU=; b=DCyqj6m5ytVhMqcRybyUNNYDxzPufTMwtmG3sabGcWJf4ItzUzFjdQajy1sFkuY9vP7s6+IoOT0uQ/84kuHuNqQ/excfBIiV1SdHFvHXJNgYXTcE/VaP3xbX+vd/Fo2A; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:45440 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TRjrN-00021i-Uk for ccamp@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:22:02 -0600 Message-ID: <508A8E74.8070801@labn.net> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:21:56 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CCAMP References: <50884D36.1000603@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <50884D36.1000603@labn.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Subject: Re: [CCAMP] IETF 85 Draft Agenda Posted X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:22:27 -0000 A revised agenda has been posted. It includes some additions, corrections and time adjustments. Presenters, Please have slides to the secretaries and chairs by one week from today (Friday) to allow for upload. Lou (Deborah, Daniele & Dan) On 10/24/2012 4:19 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > All, > The draft agenda for Atlanta is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/agenda/agenda-85-ccamp > > Please let us (Daniele & Dan + chairs) know if you have comments or if > we missed anything. > > Much thanks, > Lou (Deborah, Daniele & Dan) > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Fri Oct 26 19:06:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120E221F84D9; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:06:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.018 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.018 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.018, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_93=0.6, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Nma12nx+AUSV; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5480D21F84CA; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id CE3B5B1E002; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:00:09 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20121027020009.CE3B5B1E002@rfc-editor.org> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ccamp@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [CCAMP] RFC 6780 on RSVP ASSOCIATION Object Extensions X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 02:06:07 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6780 Title: RSVP ASSOCIATION Object Extensions Author: L. Berger, F. Le Faucheur, A. Narayanan Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: October 2012 Mailbox: lberger@labn.net, flefauch@cisco.com, ashokn@cisco.com Pages: 17 Characters: 41252 Updates: RFC2205, RFC3209, RFC3473, RFC4872 I-D Tag: draft-ietf-ccamp-assoc-ext-06.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6780.txt The RSVP ASSOCIATION object was defined in the context of GMPLS-controlled Label Switched Paths (LSPs). In this context, the object is used to associate recovery LSPs with the LSP they are protecting. This object also has broader applicability as a mechanism to associate RSVP state. This document defines how the ASSOCIATION object can be more generally applied. This document also defines Extended ASSOCIATION objects that, in particular, can be used in the context of the MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP). This document updates RFC 2205, RFC 3209, and RFC 3473. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Mon Oct 29 10:18:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3187821F8724; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:18:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2bFFjOwqigxS; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FF421F8739; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121029171803.10462.90151.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:18:03 -0700 Cc: ccamp mailing list , ccamp chair , RFC Editor Subject: [CCAMP] Protocol Action: 'ASON Routing for OSPFv2 Protocols' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-ccamp-rfc5787bis-06.txt) X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:18:05 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'ASON Routing for OSPFv2 Protocols' (draft-ietf-ccamp-rfc5787bis-06.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Adrian Farrel and Stewart Bryant. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rfc5787bis/ Technical Summary The ITU-T has defined an architecture and requirements for operating an Automatically Switched Optical Network (ASON). The Generalized Multiprotocol Label Switching (GMPLS) protocol suite is designed to provide a control plane for a range of network technologies including optical networks such as time division multiplexing (TDM) networks including SONET/SDH and Optical Transport Networks (OTNs), and lambda switching optical networks. The requirements for GMPLS routing to satisfy the requirements of ASON routing, and an evaluation of existing GMPLS routing protocols are provided in other documents. This document defines extensions to the OSPFv2 Link State Routing Protocol to meet the requirements for routing in an ASON. Note that this work is scoped to the requirements and evaluation expressed in RFC 4258 and RFC 4652 and the ITU-T Recommendations current when those documents were written. Future extensions of revisions of this work may be necessary if the ITU-T Recommendations are revised or if new requirements are introduced into a revision of RFC 4258. This document obsoletes RFC 5787 and updates RFC 5786. Working Group Summary This document received much attention and discussion in its early revisions. The document has been stable for quite some time, mainly needing revisions as part of the publication process for Standards Track. Document Quality There have been no public statements related to implementations, though significant interest was expressed when the working group was polled for interest in moving to standards track. Part of the motivation for the work is interest from the OIF which suggests that prototype implementations will be built. This document suffered^H^H^H^H benefited from an extensive AD review as the publication request was processed. There were a number of comments during IETF last call and as the result of a Routing Directorate review: these have been addressed. Personnel Deborah Brungard (db3546@att.com) is the Document Shepherd Adrian Farrel (adrian@olddog.co.uk) is the Responsible AD RFC Editor Note Section 6.1, page 9, final paragraph: OLD: Identifier SHOULD NOT be set to 0. NEW: Identifier MUST NOT be set to 0. --- Section 9, pages 14-15, second and third paragraphs: OLD: Any mechanisms used for securing the exchange of normal OSPF LSAs can be applied equally to all TE LSAs used in the ASON context. Authentication of OSPFv2 LSA exchanges (such as OSPF cryptographic authentication [RFC2328] and [RFC5709]) can be used to secure against passive attacks and provide significant protection against active attacks. [RFC5709] defines a mechanism for authenticating OSPFv2 packets by making use of the HMAC algorithm in conjunction with the SHA family of cryptographic hash functions. If a stronger authentication were believed to be required, then the use of a full digital signature [RFC2154] would be an approach that should be seriously considered. Use of full digital signatures would enable precise authentication of the OSPF router originating each OSPF link-state advertisement, and thereby provide much stronger integrity protection for the OSPF routing domain. RCs implementing export/import of ASON routing information between RAs MUST also include policy control of both the maximum amount of information advertised between RAs and the maximum rate at which it is advertised. This is to isolate the consequences of an RC being compromised to the RAs to which that subverted RC is attached. NEW: Any mechanisms used for securing the exchange of normal OSPF LSAs can be applied equally to all TE LSAs used in the ASON context. Authentication of OSPFv2 LSA exchanges (such as OSPF cryptographic authentication [RFC2328] and [RFC5709]) can be used to provide significant protection against active attacks. [RFC5709] defines a mechanism for authenticating OSPFv2 packets by making use of the HMAC algorithm in conjunction with the SHA family of cryptographic hash functions. RCs implementing export/import of ASON routing information between RAs MUST also include policy control of both the maximum amount of information advertised between RAs and the maximum rate at which it is advertised. This is to isolate the consequences of an RC being compromised to the RAs to which that subverted RC is attached. The document [OSPF-SECURITY-ANALYSIS] provides a comprehensive analysis of OSPFv2 and OSPFv3 security relative to the requirements specified in [RFC6518]. --- Section 13.2, page 24 (remove [RFC2154] and add two new Informative References): OLD: [RFC2154] Murphy, S., Badger, M., and B. Wellington, "OSPF with Digital Signatures", RFC 2154, June 1997. NEW: [OSPF-SECURITY-ANALYSIS] Hartman, S. and Zhang, D., Analysis of OSPF Security According to KARP Design Guide, draft-ietf-karp-ospf-analysis-05.txt, July 2012, work in progress [RFC6518] Lebovitz, G., and Bhatia, M., "Keying and Authentication for Routing Protocols (KARP) Design Guidelines", RFC 6518, February 2012 From daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com Wed Oct 31 02:09:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B46A21F84B1 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 02:09:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HI1or8BG65j9 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 02:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw2.ericsson.se (mailgw2.ericsson.se [193.180.251.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4416821F8448 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 02:09:23 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb25-b7f926d00000661f-15-5090eac2cf8e Received: from esessmw0184.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw2.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 70.6F.26143.2CAE0905; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:09:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from ESESSHC006.ericsson.se (153.88.183.36) by esessmw0184.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.81) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.279.1; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:09:22 +0100 Received: from ESESSMB301.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.169]) by ESESSHC006.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.36]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:09:21 +0100 From: Daniele Ceccarelli To: CCAMP Thread-Topic: CCAMP sessions slides Thread-Index: AQHNt0dqh1N8JHmj9kS77PwWG1lOfw== Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:09:21 +0000 Message-ID: <4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE4801AAF5@ESESSMB301.ericsson.se> References: <4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE48F9A8@ESESSMB301.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE48F9A8@ESESSMB301.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.18] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrALMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvre6hVxMCDBYsULJ4MucGiwOjx5Il P5kCGKO4bFJSczLLUov07RK4MhYduMpW8IavYvHsdcwNjEt4uhg5OSQETCQun+tmg7DFJC7c Ww9kc3EICZxklGj4cIMdwtnJKPHhRRcjhLOEUeL5scfMXYwcHGwCVhJPDvmAdIsISEnc3HeL HcQWFpCTmLiklx0iriyxZOd3FghbT+LGqtlgcRYBVYkzH26zgti8At4S9+fPhto8nVGivfEm WAOngJfElaVrwGxGAVmJCbsXMYLYzALiEreezGeCOFtAYsme88wQtqjEy8f/WCFsRYmPr/ZB 1QMtnjqFDcLWlli28DUzxGJBiZMzn4DNFxLQkTj2p4F5AqP4LCQrZiFpn4WkfRaS9gWMLKsY 2XMTM3PSy402MQJj5eCW36o7GO+cEznEKM3BoiTOa711j7+QQHpiSWp2ampBalF8UWlOavEh RiYOTqkGRtkEkQ1rekqrLlwQj186maNS5+6XtJmVD9JO77DcwT7ncMSb7r3Of+enBTDP8iwK /uhTkMYdFd3puvxDRuZso2OXZl9wd9R/b6BeEGQ4c+O1Dx527+c6TTram/1B4v+8T0ufFZxJ qz1kbBbMJz2TQXRfXn3a5AU+Zz0evGHN3j+jdXdlt8JbJSWW4oxEQy3mouJEAJ4dttxjAgAA Subject: [CCAMP] CCAMP sessions slides X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:09:25 -0000 Hi CCAMP, This is a friendly reminder for those of you who requested a time slot for = presenting a draft at the next meeting. Please send your slides to Daniel and myself (cc'ing the chairs). The deadl= ine is Friday: >- Presentations - >If you are presenting slides please make sure you send them to=20 >us (CC'ing the chairs) by Friday, November 2nd.=20 > BR Daniele >-----Original Message----- >From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org]=20 >On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli >Sent: luned=EC 8 ottobre 2012 17.37 >To: CCAMP >Subject: [CCAMP] CCAMP Agenda Requests for IETF 85 > > Hi CCAMP, > >It's time for IETF 85 time slot requests: > >- Agenda Requests - >Please send Dan and me (CC'ing the chairs) your requests for=20 >time on the working group agenda. Please let us have your=20 >requests by Friday, October 19th. >For each slot please state: >+ Presenter >+ Draft title (e.g. Traffic Engineering Extensions to OSPF for=20 >+ Generalized MPLS (GMPLS)Control of Evolving G.709 OTN=20 >Networks) Draft=20 >+ URL on tools server (e.g.=20 >+ http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3-03) >+ Desired time slot > >- Presentations - >If you are presenting slides please make sure you send them to=20 >us (CC'ing the chairs) by Friday, November 2nd.=20 > >- Key cut-off dates - >These are located at: >http://www.ietf.org/meeting/cutoff-dates-2012.html#IETF85 > >2012-10-15 (Monday): Internet Draft Cut-off for initial document (-00) >2012-10-22 (Monday): Internet Draft final submission (>00) > >- Draft Agenda - (subject to change - final agenda to be=20 >posted on 2012-10-12)=20 >http://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.txt=20 > >Br, >Dan & Daniele >_______________________________________________ >CCAMP mailing list >CCAMP@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >=