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                          Gabriele Galimberti
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        Title           : A Yang Data Model for WSON Optical Networks
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                          Xian Zhang
                          Aihua Guo
                          Victor Lopez
                          Daniel King
                          Bin Yeong Yoon
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
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        Title           : A Yang Data Model for WSON Optical Networks
        Authors         : Young Lee
                          Dhruv Dhody
                          Xian Zhang
                          Aihua Guo
                          Victor Lopez
                          Daniel King
                          Bin Yeong Yoon
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-yang-01.txt
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	Date            : 2016-04-05

Abstract:
   This document provides a YANG data model for the routing and
   wavelength assignment (RWA) TE topology in wavelength switched
   optical networks (WSONs).




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        Title           : A framework for Management and Control of DWDM optical interface parameters
        Authors         : Ruediger Kunze
                          Gert Grammel
                          Dieter Beller
                          Gabriele Galimberti
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   This document describes use cases and requirements for the control
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Dear All,=20

We posted the new draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm-if-mng-ctrl-fwk version.

Based on the ccamp WG discussion and comments we did the modifications:
- clean typos
- reshaped the Table of Contents
- Fixed references to RFC and ITU
- Fixed references to pictures
- Rephrased unclear text

There will be a -02 version coming soon with:
- Requirements chapter filled
- any comment from the WG
- definition list

Best Regards,=20

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>
>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>directories.
>This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane of
>the IETF.
>
>        Title           : A framework for Management and Control of DWDM
>optical interface parameters
>        Authors         : Ruediger Kunze
>                          Gert Grammel
>                          Dieter Beller
>                          Gabriele Galimberti
>	Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm-if-mng-ctrl-fwk-01.txt
>	Pages           : 28
>	Date            : 2016-04-06
>
>Abstract:
>   To ensure an efficient data transport, meeting the requirements
>   requested by today's IP-services the control and management of DWDM
>   interfaces is a precondition for enhanced multilayer networking and
>   for an further automation of network provisioning and operation.
>   This document describes use cases and requirements for the control
>   and management of optical interfaces parameters according to
>   different types of single channel DMDM interfaces.  The focus is on
>   automating the network provisioning process irrespective on how it is
>   triggered i.e. by EMS, NMS or GMPLS.  This document covers management
>   as well as control plane considerations in different management cases
>   of a single channel DWDM interface The purpose is to identify the
>   necessary information elements and processes to be used by control or
>   management systems for further processing.
>
>
>The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm-if-mng-ctrl-fwk/
>
>There's also a htmlized version available at:
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Hi Fatai, CCAMPers,

"FlexE only provides interfaces. It does not provide networking, which 
means that FlexE cannot support swithching. So, from the control plane 
perspective, we only care about adaptation. "

Thanks for your comments at the IETF meeting.

Based on your feedback, I think I agree with part of your opinion. I 
should admit that FlexE do not support switching, because there is no slot 
switching in FlexE, but I don't think FlexE can not provide networking. 
Maybe because I have different understanding of "networking" here. I use 
an example to describe my understanding.

In the case depicted in the following figure, B and E are FlexE capable 
nodes, C and D are traditional OTN ODUflex/ODU4 capable nodes. There are 
three available Ethernet PHYs between node B and C, node D and node E. 
First, suppose node B receives a FlexE client path set up request from 
node B to node E and the bandwidth of this path is 150G. 
Second, given any single link between node B and node C, node D and node E 
can not be used to carry traffic larger than 100G, node B decides to use 
FlexE to carry traffic towards node E through the bonding of Ethernet 
PHYs.
Third, the FlexE signaling process assigns FlexE group number, dynamic PHY 
number for the PHYs to be used and slots information for the client.

I think all the thing done in this process is networking.


                     +---+                      +---+
                     | B |                      | E |
                     +---+                      +---+
                         \                     /
                          \                   /
                          +---+          +---+
                          | C |----------| D |
                          +---+          +---+

I think we need some discussion here. Because I think there should be such 
a FlexE control plane technology to help set up end-to-end FlexE 
connection to carry traffic larger than that can be carried by a single 
Ethernet PHY.

Thanks
Qilei

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<font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hi Fatai, CCAMPers,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">&quot;</font><font size=2 color=blue face="sans-serif">FlexE
only provides interfaces. It does not provide networking, which means that
FlexE cannot support swithching. So, from the control plane perspective,
we only care about adaptation.</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> &quot;</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thanks for your comments at the IETF
meeting.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Based on your feedback, I think I agree
with part of your opinion. I should admit that FlexE do not support switching,
because there is no slot switching in FlexE, but I don't think FlexE can
not provide networking. Maybe because I have different understanding of
&quot;networking&quot; here. I use an example to describe my understanding.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">In the case depicted in the following
figure, B and E are FlexE capable nodes, C and D are traditional OTN ODUflex/ODU4
capable nodes. There are three available Ethernet PHYs between node B and
C, node D and node E. </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">First, suppose node B receives a FlexE
client path set up request from node B to node E and the bandwidth of this
path is 150G. &nbsp;</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Second, given any single link between
node B and node C, node D and node E can not be used to carry traffic larger
than 100G, node B decides to use FlexE to carry traffic towards node E
through the bonding of Ethernet PHYs.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Third, the FlexE signaling process assigns
FlexE group number, dynamic PHY number for the PHYs to be used and slots
information for the client.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I think all the thing done in this process
is networking.</font>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;+---+ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;+---+<br>
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| B | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp;| E |<br>
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+---+ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp;+---+<br>
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&nbsp; &nbsp; \ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; /<br>
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&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;\ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; /<br>
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&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;+---+ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;+---+<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;| C |----------| D |<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;+---+ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;+---+</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I think we need some discussion here.
Because I think there should be such a FlexE control plane technology to
help set up end-to-end FlexE connection to carry traffic larger than that
can be carried by a single Ethernet PHY.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thanks</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Qilei<br>
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Hi Jonas


Great to see a push towards standardizing data model for managing microwave=
 link.


I had a look at your yang file and have some proposals (please also find it=
 in attached document):

* Changed enums to identities (so that they can easily be augmented by vend=
or specific yang files). (The example shows couple of them but more can be =
done - like modes of operation)

* Group G.826 parameters so that they are available for "carrier-ethernet" =
as well as "radio-link-terminal" type of interfaces - as they are needed on=
 both type of interfaces. Although for the final model I strongly suggest t=
hat we remove this from the standard yang (and keep it as vendor specific) =
as most of the required G.826 stuff is missing in this model
* I also propose that the "choice" statement shall be avoided if possible (=
and rather use the "when"  - in the attached example this was done for codi=
ng-modulation). The rationale behind this is that nodes under choice do not=
 appear in the actual data instances(or schema path) - they are just used f=
or validation so that only one set of data appears.

Regards

Marko Vaupotic



---------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------------------------------------------------------

Hi all,



At IETF 95 on Monday April 4th, 14:50, there will be a presentation about a=
 Microwave Radio Link Yang Model.



The draft was unfortunately not properly uploaded in due time and there is =
therefore no link to the document in the CCAMP Agenda For IETF 95.

I've instead used the CCAMP mailing list to reach out with the draft to all=
 of you.



The purpose of the draft is to provide a (starting point for a) standardize=
d YANG model for configuration, status and statistics for the radio link in=
terface in a microwave node.

There is a similar activity to standardize a model for microwave in ONF, bu=
t the major differences are:

  *   We believe that there are clear benefits to augment the YANG Model fo=
r Interface Management [RFC 7223]<http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7223.txt=
> and thereby use the same structure for radio  link as for most other inte=
rfaces in microwave node
  *   Our intention is to cover a selected set of key parameters which we b=
elieve are enough for managing the core parts of a radio link and leave out=
 the product/implementation specific parameters. If required, they can alwa=
ys be added as a vendor specific model augmenting the standardized radio li=
nk model.



I will share more info in my presentation at IETF 95.



Regards

Jonas Ahlberg


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<p>Hi Jonas</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Great to see&nbsp;a push towards standardizing data model for managing m=
icrowave&nbsp;link. &nbsp;</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>I had a look at your yang file and have some proposals (please also find=
 it in attached document):</p>
<p>* Changed enums to identities (so that they can easily be augmented by v=
endor specific yang files). (The example shows couple of them but more can =
be done - like modes of operation)<br>
</p>
<p>* Group G.826 parameters so that they are available for &#8220;carrier-e=
thernet&#8221; as well as &#8220;radio-link-terminal&#8221; type of interfa=
ces - as they are needed on both type of interfaces. Although for the final=
&nbsp;model I strongly suggest that we remove this from the standard
 yang (and keep it as vendor specific) as most of the required G.826 stuff =
is missing in this model &nbsp;<br>
*&nbsp;I also propose that the &#8220;choice&#8221; statement shall be avoi=
ded if possible (and rather use the &#8220;when&#8221;&nbsp; &#8211; in the=
 attached example this was done for coding-modulation). The rationale behin=
d this is that nodes under choice do not appear in the actual data instance=
s(or
 schema path) &#8211; they are just used for validation so that only one se=
t of data appears.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Marko Vaupotic<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
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<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>At IETF 95 on Monday April 4<sup>th</sup>, 14:50, there will be a presen=
tation about a Microwave Radio Link Yang Model.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The draft was unfortunately not properly uploaded in due time and there =
is therefore no link to the document in the CCAMP Agenda For IETF 95.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve instead used the CCAMP mailing list to reach out with the dra=
ft to all of you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The purpose of the draft is to provide a (starting point for a) standard=
ized YANG model for configuration, status and statistics for the radio link=
 interface in a microwave node.</p>
<p>There is a similar activity to standardize a model for microwave in ONF,=
 but the major differences are:</p>
<ul>
<li>We believe that there are clear benefits to augment the YANG Model for =
Interface Management
<a href=3D"http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7223.txt">[RFC 7223]</a> and th=
ereby use the same structure for radio&nbsp; link as for most other interfa=
ces in microwave node</li><li>Our intention is to cover a selected set of k=
ey parameters which we believe are enough for managing the core parts of a =
radio link and leave out the product/implementation specific parameters. If=
 required, they can always be added as a vendor specific model
 augmenting the standardized radio link model.</li></ul>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I will share more info in my presentation at IETF 95.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Jonas Ahlberg </p>
<p><br>
</p>
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<p>Hi Jonas</p>
<p><br>
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<p>Great to see&nbsp;a push towards standardizing data model for managing m=
icrowave&nbsp;link. &nbsp;</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>I had a look at your yang file and have some proposals (please also find=
 it in attached document):</p>
<p>* Changed enums to identities (so that they can easily be augmented by v=
endor specific yang files). (The example shows couple of them but more can =
be done - like modes of operation)<br>
</p>
<p>* Group G.826 parameters so that they are available for =A1=B0carrier-et=
hernet=A1=B1 as well as =A1=B0radio-link-terminal=A1=B1 type of interfaces =
- as they are needed on both type of interfaces. Although for the final&nbs=
p;model I strongly suggest that we remove this from the standard
 yang (and keep it as vendor specific) as most of the required G.826 stuff =
is missing in this model &nbsp;<br>
*&nbsp;I also propose that the =A1=B0choice=A1=B1 statement shall be avoide=
d if possible (and rather use the =A1=B0when=A1=B1&nbsp; =A8C in the attach=
ed example this was done for coding-modulation). The rationale behind this =
is that nodes under choice do not appear in the actual data instances(or
 schema path) =A8C they are just used for validation so that only one set o=
f data appears.<br>
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Regards<br>
<br>
Marko Vaupotic<br>
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<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>At IETF 95 on Monday April 4<sup>th</sup>, 14:50, there will be a presen=
tation about a Microwave Radio Link Yang Model.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The draft was unfortunately not properly uploaded in due time and there =
is therefore no link to the document in the CCAMP Agenda For IETF 95.</p>
<p>I=A1=AFve instead used the CCAMP mailing list to reach out with the draf=
t to all of you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The purpose of the draft is to provide a (starting point for a) standard=
ized YANG model for configuration, status and statistics for the radio link=
 interface in a microwave node.</p>
<p>There is a similar activity to standardize a model for microwave in ONF,=
 but the major differences are:</p>
<ul>
<li>We believe that there are clear benefits to augment the YANG Model for =
Interface Management
<a href=3D"http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7223.txt" target=3D"_blank">[RF=
C 7223]</a> and thereby use the same structure for radio&nbsp; link as for =
most other interfaces in microwave node
</li><li>Our intention is to cover a selected set of key parameters which w=
e believe are enough for managing the core parts of a radio link and leave =
out the product/implementation specific parameters. If required, they can a=
lways be added as a vendor specific model
 augmenting the standardized radio link model.</li></ul>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I will share more info in my presentation at IETF 95.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Jonas Ahlberg </p>
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the minutes of the CCAMP session @IETF95 are now available: https://www.iet=
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If something is missing or wrongly noted please let us know.

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The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'IANA Allocation Procedures for OTN Signal Type Subregistry of the
   GMPLS Signaling Parameters Registry'
  (draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-signal-type-subregistry-05.txt) as Proposed
Standard

This document is the product of the Common Control and Measurement Plane
Working Group.

The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Alia Atlas and Deborah
Brungard.

A URL of this Internet Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-signal-type-subregistry/





Technical Summary

IANA has defined an "OTN Signal Type" subregistry of the
"Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Signaling
Parameters" registry. This document updates the OTN Signal Type
subregistry specified in RFC 7139 to allow Specification Required
policies, as defined in RFC 5226.
   
Working Group Summary

There were no problems with consensus for this document.

Document Quality

The document is concise and provides proper justification for the
extension of the OTN Signal Type registry.
 
Personnel

  Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Huub van Helvoort
  Who is the Responsible Area Director?  Deborah Brungard
 


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I note that these say

"First Session
Monday, April 4, 2016 (ART)
14:00-15:30 - Monday  Afternoon session I "

Would I be right in thinking that this is the one and only session?

Tom Petch


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WG,

the minutes of the CCAMP session @IETF95 are now available:
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If something is missing or wrongly noted please let us know.

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To: Marko Vaupotic <Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.com>, "ccamp@ietf.org" <ccamp@ietf.org>
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Hi Marko,

Thank you for your feedback. It's very much appreciated.


* Changed enums to identities (so that they can easily be augmented by vend=
or specific yang files). (The example shows couple of them but more can be =
done - like modes of operation)
It's a good proposal and I will include it in the next version of the model=
, for coding-modulation, spectrum-efficency-class and also for radio-link-t=
erminal:mode.
I've checked the other enums but I think that they can remain as enums, at =
least for now.

* Group G.826 parameters so that they are available for "carrier-ethernet" =
as well as "radio-link-terminal" type of interfaces - as they are needed on=
 both type of interfaces. Although for the final model I strongly suggest t=
hat we remove this from the standard yang (and keep it as vendor specific) =
as most of the required G.826 stuff is missing in this model
Making a group of the G.826 parameters make sense. I will include it in the=
 model.

So far we've included actual values only. Historical PM data, including G.8=
26 parameters, are currently not in the model but I've received feedback th=
at we should consider to introduce support for that via Netconf/YANG in add=
ition to XML-files over FTP which we currently use.
Is there anything else than the historical parameters that's missing?

The packet domain is outside the scope of this model, but I think there sti=
ll is an open question about the use cases for supporting G.826 on the aggr=
egated level of a radio-link-terminal or not. It's obvious that we need to =
understand the performance on a carrier-termination, but could it be enough=
 to rely on the packet measurements on the aggregated level? Let's continue=
 the discussion.


* I also propose that the "choice" statement shall be avoided if possible (=
and rather use the "when"  - in the attached example this was done for codi=
ng-modulation). The rationale behind this is that nodes under choice do not=
 appear in the actual data instances(or schema path) - they are just used f=
or validation so that only one set of data appears.
We have generated both CLI & WebUI using your proposal. I agree with you th=
at there could be a benefit of storing the selection in the CDB (data insta=
nce). It turns out in a good way in CLI and I believe the same could be tru=
e for the WebUI, buf it would require some adjustments.
I support your proposal and plan to introduce it in the model.


Once again, thanks for your contribution and let's continue the discussion.

Regards
Jonas Ahlberg



From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marko Vaupotic
Sent: den 18 april 2016 22:23
To: ccamp@ietf.org<mailto:ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Microwave Radio Link YANG Data Models


Hi Jonas



Great to see a push towards standardizing data model for managing microwave=
 link.



I had a look at your yang file and have some proposals (please also find it=
 in attached document):

* Changed enums to identities (so that they can easily be augmented by vend=
or specific yang files). (The example shows couple of them but more can be =
done - like modes of operation)

* Group G.826 parameters so that they are available for "carrier-ethernet" =
as well as "radio-link-terminal" type of interfaces - as they are needed on=
 both type of interfaces. Although for the final model I strongly suggest t=
hat we remove this from the standard yang (and keep it as vendor specific) =
as most of the required G.826 stuff is missing in this model
* I also propose that the "choice" statement shall be avoided if possible (=
and rather use the "when"  - in the attached example this was done for codi=
ng-modulation). The rationale behind this is that nodes under choice do not=
 appear in the actual data instances(or schema path) - they are just used f=
or validation so that only one set of data appears.

Regards

Marko Vaupotic





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-------------------------------------------------------

Hi all,



At IETF 95 on Monday April 4th, 14:50, there will be a presentation about a=
 Microwave Radio Link Yang Model.



The draft was unfortunately not properly uploaded in due time and there is =
therefore no link to the document in the CCAMP Agenda For IETF 95.

I've instead used the CCAMP mailing list to reach out with the draft to all=
 of you.



The purpose of the draft is to provide a (starting point for a) standardize=
d YANG model for configuration, status and statistics for the radio link in=
terface in a microwave node.

There is a similar activity to standardize a model for microwave in ONF, bu=
t the major differences are:

  *   We believe that there are clear benefits to augment the YANG Model fo=
r Interface Management [RFC 7223]<http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7223.txt=
> and thereby use the same structure for radio  link as for most other inte=
rfaces in microwave node
  *   Our intention is to cover a selected set of key parameters which we b=
elieve are enough for managing the core parts of a radio link and leave out=
 the product/implementation specific parameters. If required, they can alwa=
ys be added as a vendor specific model augmenting the standardized radio li=
nk model.



I will share more info in my presentation at IETF 95.



Regards

Jonas Ahlberg



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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Hi Marko,<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thank you for your feedba=
ck. It&#8217;s very much appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">* Changed enums to identities (so that they can easily be augmen=
ted by vendor specific yang files). (The example shows couple of them but m=
ore can be done - like modes of operation)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">It&#8217;s a good proposa=
l and I will include it in the next version of the model, for coding-modula=
tion, spectrum-efficency-class and also for radio-link-terminal:mode.<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I&#8217;ve checked the ot=
her enums but I think that they can remain as enums, at least for now.<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">* Group G.826 parameters so that they are av=
ailable for &#8220;carrier-ethernet&#8221; as well as &#8220;radio-link-ter=
minal&#8221; type of interfaces - as they are needed on both type of interf=
aces.
 Although for the final&nbsp;model I strongly suggest that we remove this f=
rom the standard yang (and keep it as vendor specific) as most of the requi=
red G.826 stuff is missing in this model &nbsp;<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Making a group of the G.826 parameters ma=
ke sense. I will include it in the model.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">So far we&#8217;ve includ=
ed actual values only. Historical PM data, including G.826 parameters, are =
currently not in the model but I&#8217;ve received feedback that we
 should consider to introduce support for that via Netconf/YANG in addition=
 to XML-files over FTP which we currently use.<br>
Is there anything else than the historical parameters that&#8217;s missing?=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">The packet domain is outs=
ide the scope of this model, but I think there still is an open question ab=
out the use cases for supporting G.826 on the aggregated
 level of a radio-link-terminal or not. It&#8217;s obvious that we need to =
understand the performance on a carrier-termination, but could it be enough=
 to rely on the packet measurements on the aggregated level? Let&#8217;s co=
ntinue the discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">*&nbsp;I also propose that the &#8220;choice&#8221; statement sh=
all be avoided if possible (and rather use the &#8220;when&#8221;&nbsp; &#8=
211; in the attached example this was done for coding-modulation). The rati=
onale behind this is
 that nodes under choice do not appear in the actual data instances(or sche=
ma path) &#8211; they are just used for validation so that only one set of =
data appears.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">We have generated both CL=
I &amp; WebUI using your proposal. I agree with you that there could be a b=
enefit of storing the selection in the CDB (data instance).
 It turns out in a good way in CLI and I believe the same could be true for=
 the WebUI, buf it would require some adjustments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I support your proposal a=
nd plan to introduce it in the model.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Once again, thanks for yo=
ur contribution and let&#8217;s continue the discussion.<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Jonas Ahlberg<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [<=
a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marko Vaupotic<br>
<b>Sent:</b> den 18 april 2016 22:23<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] Microwave Radio Link YANG Data Models<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">Hi Jonas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">Great to see&nbsp;a push towards standardizing data model for ma=
naging microwave&nbsp;link. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">I had a look at your yang file and have some proposals (please a=
lso find it in attached document):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">* Changed enums to identities (so that they can easily be augmen=
ted by vendor specific yang files). (The example shows couple of them but m=
ore can be done - like modes of operation)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">* Group G.826 parameters so that they are available for &#8220;c=
arrier-ethernet&#8221; as well as &#8220;radio-link-terminal&#8221; type of=
 interfaces - as they are needed on both type of interfaces. Although for t=
he
 final&nbsp;model I strongly suggest that we remove this from the standard =
yang (and keep it as vendor specific) as most of the required G.826 stuff i=
s missing in this model &nbsp;<br>
*&nbsp;I also propose that the &#8220;choice&#8221; statement shall be avoi=
ded if possible (and rather use the &#8220;when&#8221;&nbsp; &#8211; in the=
 attached example this was done for coding-modulation). The rationale behin=
d this is that nodes under choice do not appear in the actual data instance=
s(or
 schema path) &#8211; they are just used for validation so that only one se=
t of data appears.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black"><br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Marko Vaupotic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">----------------------------------------------------------------=
------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">At IETF 95 on Monday April 4<sup>th</sup>, 14:50, there will be =
a presentation about a Microwave Radio Link Yang Model.<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">The draft was unfortunately not properly uploaded in due time an=
d there is therefore no link to the document in the CCAMP Agenda For IETF 9=
5.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">I&#8217;ve instead used the CCAMP mailing list to reach out with=
 the draft to all of you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">The purpose of the draft is to provide a (starting point for a) =
standardized YANG model for configuration, status and statistics for the ra=
dio link interface in a microwave node.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">There is a similar activity to standardize a model for microwave=
 in ONF, but the major differences are:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-ma=
rgin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">We b=
elieve that there are clear benefits to augment the YANG Model for Interfac=
e Management
</span><a href=3D"http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7223.txt"><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">[RFC 7223]</span><=
/a><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> =
and thereby use the same structure for radio&nbsp; link as for most other i=
nterfaces
 in microwave node<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"c=
olor:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 l=
evel1 lfo3">
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Our =
intention is to cover a selected set of key parameters which we believe are=
 enough for managing the core parts of a radio link and leave out the produ=
ct/implementation specific parameters. If required, they
 can always be added as a vendor specific model augmenting the standardized=
 radio link model.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">I will share more info in my presentation at IETF 95.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">Jonas Ahlberg <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Hi Amy,<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thank you for the support=
. Your input is important.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Jonas Ahlberg<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [m=
ailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Yemin (Amy)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> den 19 april 2016 18:18<br>
<b>To:</b> Marko Vaupotic; ccamp@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] Microwave Radio Link YANG Data Models<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;;color:black">I'm also interested in this draft. Will review a=
nd provide comments later.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;;color:black">BR,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;;color:black">Amy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span lang=3D"ZH-C=
N" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></b><b><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;;color:black">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">
 CCAMP [ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;color:black">=B4=FA=B1=ED</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"> Marko V=
aupotic [Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.com]<br>
</span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">=B7=
=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">:</span></b><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:black"> 2016</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;color:black">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">4</span><span lang=3D=
"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;colo=
r:black">19</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:blac=
k">=C8=D5</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">
 4:23<br>
</span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">=CA=
=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">:</span></b><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
;color:black">
<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a><br>
</span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">=D6=
=F7=CC=E2</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ta=
homa&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">:</span></b><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color=
:black"> Re: [CCAMP]
 Microwave Radio Link YANG Data Models</span><span style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
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<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">Hi Jonas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">Great to see&nbsp;a push towards standardizing data model for=
 managing microwave&nbsp;link. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">I had a look at your yang file and have some proposals (pleas=
e also find it in attached document):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">* Changed enums to identities (so that they can easily be aug=
mented by vendor specific yang files). (The example shows couple of them bu=
t more can be done - like modes of operation)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">* Group G.826 parameters so that they are available for =A1=
=B0carrier-ethernet=A1=B1 as well as =A1=B0radio-link-terminal=A1=B1 type o=
f interfaces - as they are needed on both type of interfaces. Although for =
the
 final&nbsp;model I strongly suggest that we remove this from the standard =
yang (and keep it as vendor specific) as most of the required G.826 stuff i=
s missing in this model &nbsp;<br>
*&nbsp;I also propose that the =A1=B0choice=A1=B1 statement shall be avoide=
d if possible (and rather use the =A1=B0when=A1=B1&nbsp; =A8C in the attach=
ed example this was done for coding-modulation). The rationale behind this =
is that nodes under choice do not appear in the actual data instances(or
 schema path) =A8C they are just used for validation so that only one set o=
f data appears.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black"><br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Marko Vaupotic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">-------------------------------------------------------------=
---------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">At IETF 95 on Monday April 4<sup>th</sup>, 14:50, there will =
be a presentation about a Microwave Radio Link Yang Model.<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">The draft was unfortunately not properly uploaded in due time=
 and there is therefore no link to the document in the CCAMP Agenda For IET=
F 95.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">I=A1=AFve instead used the CCAMP mailing list to reach out wi=
th the draft to all of you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">The purpose of the draft is to provide a (starting point for =
a) standardized YANG model for configuration, status and statistics for the=
 radio link interface in a microwave node.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">There is a similar activity to standardize a model for microw=
ave in ONF, but the major differences are:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-ma=
rgin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">W=
e believe that there are clear benefits to augment the YANG Model for Inter=
face Management
<a href=3D"http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7223.txt" target=3D"_blank">[RF=
C 7223]</a> and thereby use the same structure for radio&nbsp; link as for =
most other interfaces in microwave node
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-mar=
gin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">O=
ur intention is to cover a selected set of key parameters which we believe =
are enough for managing the core parts of a radio link and leave out the pr=
oduct/implementation specific parameters. If required,
 they can always be added as a vendor specific model augmenting the standar=
dized radio link model.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">I will share more info in my presentation at IETF 95.<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">Jonas Ahlberg <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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Hi Tom,

Actually there was a second session, which showed up in the agenda as the s=
econd TEAS WG session but was a joint session among TEAS, MPLS, PCE and CCA=
MP WGs.

BR
Daniele

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> I note that these say
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> Would I be right in thinking that this is the one and only session?
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane of the IETF.

        Title           : GMPLS OSPF-TE Extensions in support of Flexi-grid DWDM networks
        Authors         : Xian Zhang
                          Haomian Zheng
                          Ramon Casellas
                          Oscar Gonzalez de Dios
                          Daniele Ceccarelli
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-04.txt
	Pages           : 17
	Date            : 2016-04-24

Abstract:
   This memo describes the OSPF-TE extensions in support of GMPLS
   control of networks that include devices that use the new flexible
   optical grid.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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Hi Jonas

A couple of more comments:
* Under "power" container, we suggest to also add "FCC-compliant" node (Boo=
lean type) that defines if Federal  Communications Commission (FCC) complia=
nt Automatic Transmit Power Control function shall be used
* We also suggest to change all power related object to type decimal64 (wit=
h fraction-digits 1) so that they are all the same (even better would be to=
 define a new typedef for this and use it globally).

Regards

Marko

From: Jonas Ahlberg [mailto:jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 4:51 PM
To: Marko Vaupotic; ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [CCAMP] Microwave Radio Link YANG Data Models

Hi Marko,

Thank you for your feedback. It's very much appreciated.


* Changed enums to identities (so that they can easily be augmented by vend=
or specific yang files). (The example shows couple of them but more can be =
done - like modes of operation)
It's a good proposal and I will include it in the next version of the model=
, for coding-modulation, spectrum-efficency-class and also for radio-link-t=
erminal:mode.
I've checked the other enums but I think that they can remain as enums, at =
least for now.

* Group G.826 parameters so that they are available for "carrier-ethernet" =
as well as "radio-link-terminal" type of interfaces - as they are needed on=
 both type of interfaces. Although for the final model I strongly suggest t=
hat we remove this from the standard yang (and keep it as vendor specific) =
as most of the required G.826 stuff is missing in this model
Making a group of the G.826 parameters make sense. I will include it in the=
 model.

So far we've included actual values only. Historical PM data, including G.8=
26 parameters, are currently not in the model but I've received feedback th=
at we should consider to introduce support for that via Netconf/YANG in add=
ition to XML-files over FTP which we currently use.
Is there anything else than the historical parameters that's missing?

The packet domain is outside the scope of this model, but I think there sti=
ll is an open question about the use cases for supporting G.826 on the aggr=
egated level of a radio-link-terminal or not. It's obvious that we need to =
understand the performance on a carrier-termination, but could it be enough=
 to rely on the packet measurements on the aggregated level? Let's continue=
 the discussion.


* I also propose that the "choice" statement shall be avoided if possible (=
and rather use the "when"  - in the attached example this was done for codi=
ng-modulation). The rationale behind this is that nodes under choice do not=
 appear in the actual data instances(or schema path) - they are just used f=
or validation so that only one set of data appears.
We have generated both CLI & WebUI using your proposal. I agree with you th=
at there could be a benefit of storing the selection in the CDB (data insta=
nce). It turns out in a good way in CLI and I believe the same could be tru=
e for the WebUI, buf it would require some adjustments.
I support your proposal and plan to introduce it in the model.


Once again, thanks for your contribution and let's continue the discussion.

Regards
Jonas Ahlberg



From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marko Vaupotic
Sent: den 18 april 2016 22:23
To: ccamp@ietf.org<mailto:ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Microwave Radio Link YANG Data Models


Hi Jonas



Great to see a push towards standardizing data model for managing microwave=
 link.



I had a look at your yang file and have some proposals (please also find it=
 in attached document):

* Changed enums to identities (so that they can easily be augmented by vend=
or specific yang files). (The example shows couple of them but more can be =
done - like modes of operation)

* Group G.826 parameters so that they are available for "carrier-ethernet" =
as well as "radio-link-terminal" type of interfaces - as they are needed on=
 both type of interfaces. Although for the final model I strongly suggest t=
hat we remove this from the standard yang (and keep it as vendor specific) =
as most of the required G.826 stuff is missing in this model
* I also propose that the "choice" statement shall be avoided if possible (=
and rather use the "when"  - in the attached example this was done for codi=
ng-modulation). The rationale behind this is that nodes under choice do not=
 appear in the actual data instances(or schema path) - they are just used f=
or validation so that only one set of data appears.

Regards

Marko Vaupotic





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-------------------------------------------------------

Hi all,



At IETF 95 on Monday April 4th, 14:50, there will be a presentation about a=
 Microwave Radio Link Yang Model.



The draft was unfortunately not properly uploaded in due time and there is =
therefore no link to the document in the CCAMP Agenda For IETF 95.

I've instead used the CCAMP mailing list to reach out with the draft to all=
 of you.



The purpose of the draft is to provide a (starting point for a) standardize=
d YANG model for configuration, status and statistics for the radio link in=
terface in a microwave node.

There is a similar activity to standardize a model for microwave in ONF, bu=
t the major differences are:

  *   We believe that there are clear benefits to augment the YANG Model fo=
r Interface Management [RFC 7223]<http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7223.txt=
> and thereby use the same structure for radio  link as for most other inte=
rfaces in microwave node
  *   Our intention is to cover a selected set of key parameters which we b=
elieve are enough for managing the core parts of a radio link and leave out=
 the product/implementation specific parameters. If required, they can alwa=
ys be added as a vendor specific model augmenting the standardized radio li=
nk model.



I will share more info in my presentation at IETF 95.



Regards

Jonas Ahlberg



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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Hi Jonas<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">A couple of more comments=
:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">* Under &#8220;power&#822=
1; container, we suggest to also add &#8220;FCC-compliant&#8221; node (Bool=
ean type) that defines if Federal&nbsp; Communications Commission (FCC) com=
pliant Automatic
 Transmit Power Control function shall be used<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">* We also suggest to chan=
ge all power related object to type decimal64 (with fraction-digits 1) so t=
hat they are all the same (even better would be to define
 a new typedef for this and use it globally). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Marko<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Jonas Ah=
lberg [mailto:jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 21, 2016 4:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Marko Vaupotic; ccamp@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] Microwave Radio Link YANG Data Models<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Hi Marko,<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thank you for your feedba=
ck. It&#8217;s very much appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">* Changed enums to identities (so that they can easily be augmen=
ted by vendor specific yang files). (The example shows couple of them but m=
ore can be done - like modes of operation)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">It&#8217;s a good proposa=
l and I will include it in the next version of the model, for coding-modula=
tion, spectrum-efficency-class and also for radio-link-terminal:mode.<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I&#8217;ve checked the ot=
her enums but I think that they can remain as enums, at least for now.<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">* Group G.826 parameters so that they are av=
ailable for &#8220;carrier-ethernet&#8221; as well as &#8220;radio-link-ter=
minal&#8221; type of interfaces - as they are needed on both type of interf=
aces.
 Although for the final&nbsp;model I strongly suggest that we remove this f=
rom the standard yang (and keep it as vendor specific) as most of the requi=
red G.826 stuff is missing in this model &nbsp;<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Making a group of the G.826 parameters ma=
ke sense. I will include it in the model.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">So far we&#8217;ve includ=
ed actual values only. Historical PM data, including G.826 parameters, are =
currently not in the model but I&#8217;ve received feedback that we
 should consider to introduce support for that via Netconf/YANG in addition=
 to XML-files over FTP which we currently use.<br>
Is there anything else than the historical parameters that&#8217;s missing?=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">The packet domain is outs=
ide the scope of this model, but I think there still is an open question ab=
out the use cases for supporting G.826 on the aggregated
 level of a radio-link-terminal or not. It&#8217;s obvious that we need to =
understand the performance on a carrier-termination, but could it be enough=
 to rely on the packet measurements on the aggregated level? Let&#8217;s co=
ntinue the discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">*&nbsp;I also propose that the &#8220;choice&#8221; statement sh=
all be avoided if possible (and rather use the &#8220;when&#8221;&nbsp; &#8=
211; in the attached example this was done for coding-modulation). The rati=
onale behind this is
 that nodes under choice do not appear in the actual data instances(or sche=
ma path) &#8211; they are just used for validation so that only one set of =
data appears.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">We have generated both CL=
I &amp; WebUI using your proposal. I agree with you that there could be a b=
enefit of storing the selection in the CDB (data instance).
 It turns out in a good way in CLI and I believe the same could be true for=
 the WebUI, buf it would require some adjustments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I support your proposal a=
nd plan to introduce it in the model.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Once again, thanks for yo=
ur contribution and let&#8217;s continue the discussion.<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Jonas Ahlberg<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [<=
a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marko Vaupotic<br>
<b>Sent:</b> den 18 april 2016 22:23<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] Microwave Radio Link YANG Data Models<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">Hi Jonas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">Great to see&nbsp;a push towards standardizing data model for ma=
naging microwave&nbsp;link. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">I had a look at your yang file and have some proposals (please a=
lso find it in attached document):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">* Changed enums to identities (so that they can easily be augmen=
ted by vendor specific yang files). (The example shows couple of them but m=
ore can be done - like modes of operation)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">* Group G.826 parameters so that they are available for &#8220;c=
arrier-ethernet&#8221; as well as &#8220;radio-link-terminal&#8221; type of=
 interfaces - as they are needed on both type of interfaces. Although for t=
he
 final&nbsp;model I strongly suggest that we remove this from the standard =
yang (and keep it as vendor specific) as most of the required G.826 stuff i=
s missing in this model &nbsp;<br>
*&nbsp;I also propose that the &#8220;choice&#8221; statement shall be avoi=
ded if possible (and rather use the &#8220;when&#8221;&nbsp; &#8211; in the=
 attached example this was done for coding-modulation). The rationale behin=
d this is that nodes under choice do not appear in the actual data instance=
s(or
 schema path) &#8211; they are just used for validation so that only one se=
t of data appears.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black"><br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Marko Vaupotic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">----------------------------------------------------------------=
------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">At IETF 95 on Monday April 4<sup>th</sup>, 14:50, there will be =
a presentation about a Microwave Radio Link Yang Model.<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">The draft was unfortunately not properly uploaded in due time an=
d there is therefore no link to the document in the CCAMP Agenda For IETF 9=
5.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">I&#8217;ve instead used the CCAMP mailing list to reach out with=
 the draft to all of you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">The purpose of the draft is to provide a (starting point for a) =
standardized YANG model for configuration, status and statistics for the ra=
dio link interface in a microwave node.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">There is a similar activity to standardize a model for microwave=
 in ONF, but the major differences are:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-ma=
rgin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3">
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">We b=
elieve that there are clear benefits to augment the YANG Model for Interfac=
e Management
</span><a href=3D"http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7223.txt"><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">[RFC 7223]</span><=
/a><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> =
and thereby use the same structure for radio&nbsp; link as for most other i=
nterfaces
 in microwave node<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"c=
olor:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 l=
evel1 lfo3">
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Our =
intention is to cover a selected set of key parameters which we believe are=
 enough for managing the core parts of a radio link and leave out the produ=
ct/implementation specific parameters. If required, they
 can always be added as a vendor specific model augmenting the standardized=
 radio link model.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">I will share more info in my presentation at IETF 95.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">Jonas Ahlberg <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Daniele Ceccarelli, a Chair of the ccamp working group.


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Working Group Name: Common Control and Measurement Plane
Area Name: Routing Area
Session Requester: Daniele Ceccarelli

Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):  1.5 Hours
Number of Attendees: 60
Conflicts to Avoid: 
 First Priority: teas pce rtgarea detnet netmod mpls 
 Second Priority: idr pals sfc anima spring 
 Third Priority: bess i2rs isis ospf


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From: Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>
To: "Longhao (longhao@huawei.com)" <longhao@huawei.com>, "Yemin (Amy)" <amy.yemin@huawei.com>, Gregory Mirsky <gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com>, "D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo (alessandro.dalessandro@telecomitalia.it)" <alessandro.dalessandro@telecomitalia.it>, "hshah@ciena.com" <hshah@ciena.com>
Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension-04
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Subject: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension-04
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Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, TEAS,

It's time to move on with the bandwidth availability drafts. As agreed with=
 the TEAS WG chairs the last call of draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-ext=
ension-04 will be run jointly by the CCAMP and the TEAS WGs. In preparation=
 for WG LC here is the IPR polling.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?

Please state either:
"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R=
FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?
If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria=
te. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the=
 above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are awa=
re of any relevant IPR.

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co=
ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which=
 encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an =
IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or =
discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please se=
e the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki=
/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
Daniele & Fatai


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">It&#8217;s time to move on with the bandwidth availa=
bility drafts. As agreed with the TEAS WG chairs the last call of draft-iet=
f-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension-04 will be run jointly by the CCAMP and=
 the TEAS WGs. In preparation for WG LC
 here is the IPR polling.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft ident=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please state either:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&quot;No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to t=
his draft&quot;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">or<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&quot;Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this dra=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance wit=
h IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?<o:p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If yes to the above, please state either:<o:p></o:p>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you answer no, please provide any additional deta=
ils you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contri=
butor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whe=
ther or not you are aware of any relevant
 IPR. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESS=
AGE'S TO LINES.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not li=
sted as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under t=
he IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware =
of IPR of others on an IETF contribution,
 or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related=
 to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed =
above and
<a href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProp=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Daniele &amp; Fatai<o:p></o:p></p>
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