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This draft is a work item of the Content Negotiation Working Group of the IETF. Title : Identifying composite media features Author(s) : G. Klyne, L. Masinter Filename : draft-ietf-conneg-feature-hash-04.txt Pages : 16 Date : 07-Apr-00 In RFC 2533 [1], an expression format is presented for describing media feature capabilities as a combination of simple media feature tags [2]. This document describes an abbreviated format for a composite media feature set, based upon a hash of the feature expression describing that composite. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-conneg-feature-hash-04.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-conneg-feature-hash-04.txt". 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20000407113505.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-conneg-feature-hash-04.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-conneg-feature-hash-04.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20000407113505.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- From owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Mon Apr 10 13:38:39 2000 Received: from ns.secondary.com (ns.secondary.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA26977 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:38:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18756 for ietf-medfree-bks; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kiwi.equinix.com (kiwi.equinix.com [207.20.85.65]) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18751 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hardie@localhost) by kiwi.equinix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16709; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200004101734.KAA16709@kiwi.equinix.com> Subject: Re: Feature expression syntax; quoted strings To: GK@dial.pipex.com (Graham Klyne) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ietf-medfree@imc.org (conneg WG) In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000406104518.00bb1250@pop.dial.pipex.com> from "Graham Klyne" at Apr 06, 2000 11:05:30 AM From: hardie@equinix.com Reply-to: hardie@equinix.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am I getting old? I seem to remember going through this in several times in previous lives. First, are you sure that anyone really wants to use a double quote inside a string? It is fairly common to disallow it when it is the delimiter, which is the case here? Second, are these use cases places where a different method for encoding the double quote (such as URL-encoding) already exists? Third, since this definition of string has been in place from the beginning, is it unreasonable to presume that those designing the values to be used with this system have been taking it into account and taking appropriate action to avoid the problem? Last, please realize that we will not modify "string" at this point. If we absolutely must have a representation that allows double quotes, we will need to introduce a new value type. That will cause a need to update the syntax and registration docs, which recycles everything at proposed. It also seems to cause problems for our ITU friends, and may cause a serious deployment delay. To answer your other process question, anyone who has evidence that the requirements of Draft standard have been met by a standard currently at Proposed may submit that evidence to the relevant ADs for consideration. If they are satisified, they request that the IESG consider changing the document from Proposed to Draft. If new, non-normative language is added or two documents combined (as would be the case for us), a new document would be submitted at the same time as the evidence and it would be given a new RFC number. regards, Ted Hardie > > Folks, > > In looking through RFC 2533, I note that a string value for a feature may > not contain a double quote character, there being no escape mechanism > within a string. (This was lifted from RFC 2234, which has alternative > mechanisms for describing specific individual characters.) On reflection, > it seems that assuming that a feature value can never contain a double > quote character could cause problems in the future. > > I am thinking that there should probably be an escape mechanism defined so > that a quote character can be included in a string -- using a backslash > escape character is the technique that strings to mind, so that special > constructs '\\' and '\"' within a string are introduced. > > I am not aware of any current use of RFC2533 which would be impacted by > such a change. > > If this change is felt to be a Good Thing, it will have some impact on the > feature-hash draft (section 3.1.1: description of normalization logic). > > Process question: in view of the CONNEG WG being wound up, what is the > process for moving the work to draft standard, as and when implementations > are created? > > #g > > ------------ > Graham Klyne > (GK@ACM.ORG) > From owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Mon Apr 10 21:19:21 2000 Received: from ns.secondary.com (ns.secondary.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA08165 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29685 for ietf-medfree-bks; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nix.swip.net (nix.swip.net [192.71.220.2]) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29676 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.111.28] (workstation1.swip.net [130.244.254.1]) by nix.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA07314; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:15:34 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: paf@nix.swip.net (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000215113221.00ae7100@pop.dial.pipex.com> References: <4.2.2.20000215113221.00ae7100@pop.dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:13:06 +0930 To: Graham Klyne From: Patrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E4ltstr=F6m?= Subject: Re: Last Call: Indicating media features for MIME content to (fwd) Cc: ietf-medfree@imc.org, Ned Freed Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: At 12.00 +0000 2000-02-15, Graham Klyne wrote: >I think there are some useful comments here. I think a revision >would be good, but I'd like to clarify with Ned some of the points >raised before proceeding. Can you give me a status on where you are with this update? paf From owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Tue Apr 11 07:15:31 2000 Received: from ns.secondary.com (ns.secondary.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA28810 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 07:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA12579 for ietf-medfree-bks; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msw.mimesweeper.com (msw.mimesweeper.com [194.168.90.18]) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA12574 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bell.mimesweeper.com (unverified) by msw.mimesweeper.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:12:00 +0100 Received: from GK-VAIO (gk-vaio.mimesweeper.com [194.168.90.137]) by bell.mimesweeper.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 2C7NR19N; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:11:00 +0100 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000411092822.00c19c90@pop.dial.pipex.com> X-Sender: maiw03@pop.dial.pipex.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:10:26 +0100 To: hardie@equinix.com From: Graham Klyne Subject: Re: Feature expression syntax; quoted strings Cc: ietf-medfree@imc.org (conneg WG) In-Reply-To: <200004101734.KAA16709@kiwi.equinix.com> References: <4.2.2.20000406104518.00bb1250@pop.dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: At 10:34 AM 4/10/00 -0700, hardie@equinix.com wrote: >Am I getting old? I seem to remember going through this in >several times in previous lives. Oops, sorry. If we, did, I forgot. (I suspect it's I who am getting old :-) >First, are you sure that anyone really wants to use a double quote >inside a string? No I'm not. That's why I ask. > It is fairly common to disallow it when it is the >delimiter, which is the case here? It is common, I believe, when there are alternative ways of expressing the same value (e.g. alternative quotes). > Second, are these use cases places >where a different method for encoding the double quote (such as >URL-encoding) already exists? I am thinking specifically of string *values* for features, for which there is no alternative. > Third, since this definition of >string has been in place from the beginning, is it unreasonable >to presume that those designing the values to be used with this >system have been taking it into account and taking appropriate >action to avoid the problem? Fair question. (Part of my concern was that we might want to import definitions from other work which may not be aware of any such restriction.) On reflection, I concede that we could define such imports to fit within the string syntax; e.g. by using URL-style encoding for non-ASCII and quote characters. >Last, please realize that we will not modify "string" at this point. >If we absolutely must have a representation that allows double quotes, >we will need to introduce a new value type. That will cause a need to >update the syntax and registration docs, which recycles everything at >proposed. It also seems to cause problems for our ITU friends, >and may cause a serious deployment delay. I understand this, and did not raise the issue lightly. If we have already discussed this and decided that no quotes in values is OK, then I withdraw my comments. Not recalling any such discussion, I felt it was better to raise the issue now than to leave it as a problem that would bite later. I would be best pleased if we can say this is not a problem. >To answer your other process question, anyone who has evidence that >the requirements of Draft standard have been met by a standard currently >at Proposed may submit that evidence to the relevant ADs for consideration. >If they are satisified, they request that the IESG consider changing >the document from Proposed to Draft. If new, non-normative language >is added or two documents combined (as would be the case for us), a >new document would be submitted at the same time as the evidence and >it would be given a new RFC number. Thanks. #g ------------ Graham Klyne (GK@ACM.ORG) From owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Tue Apr 11 07:16:19 2000 Received: from ns.secondary.com (ns.secondary.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA28833 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 07:16:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA12575 for ietf-medfree-bks; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msw.mimesweeper.com (msw.mimesweeper.com [194.168.90.18]) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA12570 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bell.mimesweeper.com (unverified) by msw.mimesweeper.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:12:00 +0100 Received: from GK-VAIO (gk-vaio.mimesweeper.com [194.168.90.137]) by bell.mimesweeper.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 2C7NR19P; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:11:01 +0100 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000411094007.00c721a0@pop.dial.pipex.com> X-Sender: maiw03@pop.dial.pipex.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:44:40 +0100 To: Patrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E4ltstr=F6m?= From: Graham Klyne Subject: Re: Last Call: Indicating media features for MIME content to (fwd) Cc: ietf-medfree@imc.org, Ned Freed In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20000215113221.00ae7100@pop.dial.pipex.com> <4.2.2.20000215113221.00ae7100@pop.dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ns.secondary.com id EAA12571 Sender: owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit At 03:13 AM 4/11/00 +0930, Patrik F�ltstr�m wrote: >At 12.00 +0000 2000-02-15, Graham Klyne wrote: >>I think there are some useful comments here. I think a revision would be >>good, but I'd like to clarify with Ned some of the points raised before >>proceeding. > >Can you give me a status on where you are with this update? I've summarized to the list updates arising from Ned's comments. Apart from that I've not done anything, per our previous exchange, awaiting other comments (of which none). For convenience, I attach a summary of the proposed changes below. #g >I think we are in agreement. To summarize the proposed changes (mainly >for the benefit of others following this): > >draft-ietf-conneg-feature-type-02.txt: > >(a) restrict content of type to content-type only, without parameters. > >(b) add text explaining how to deal with content-type parameters. > >draft-ietf-conneg-content-features-xx.txt: > >(c) clarification of interpretation of Content-feature headers on outer >multipart. Specifically, MUST NOT assume relationship between outer >header and any specific inner part. Also explain that content-feature can >be applied directly to any inner body part. > >(d) add text pointing out that whitespace is allowed in feature >expressions, and that this facilitates header wrapping. > >(e) add text to security considerations about placement of >content-features header on a multipart/signed document. ------------ Graham Klyne (GK@ACM.ORG) From owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Tue Apr 11 07:24:23 2000 Received: from ns.secondary.com (ns.secondary.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA28983 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 07:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA12979 for ietf-medfree-bks; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nix.swip.net (nix.swip.net [192.71.220.2]) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA12975 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.124.51] (workstation1.swip.net [130.244.254.1]) by nix.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20559; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:21:19 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: paf@nix.swip.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000411094007.00c721a0@pop.dial.pipex.com> References: <4.2.2.20000215113221.00ae7100@pop.dial.pipex.com> <4.2.2.20000215113221.00ae7100@pop.dial.pipex.com> <4.2.2.20000411094007.00c721a0@pop.dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:21:56 +0200 To: Graham Klyne From: Patrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E4ltstr=F6m?= Subject: Re: Last Call: Indicating media features for MIME content to (fwd) Cc: ietf-medfree@imc.org, Ned Freed Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: At 9:44 AM +0100 4/11/00, Graham Klyne wrote: >For convenience, I attach a summary of the proposed changes below. As far as I understand, new versions are needed of the documents. So, please create those, send them to the Internet-Draft archive, and let me know when you see the announcement. 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This draft is a work item of the Content Negotiation Working Group of the IETF. Title : MIME content types in media feature expressions Author(s) : G. Klyne Filename : draft-ietf-conneg-feature-type-03.txt Pages : 11 Date : 12-Apr-00 In 'A syntax for describing media feature sets', an expression format is presented for describing media feature capabilities using simple media feature tags.This memo defines a media feature tag whose value is a MIME content type. This allows the construction of feature expressions that take account of the MIME content type of the corresponding data. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-conneg-feature-type-03.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-conneg-feature-type-03.txt". 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20000412124711.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-conneg-feature-type-03.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-conneg-feature-type-03.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20000412124711.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- From owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Thu Apr 13 06:56:41 2000 Received: from ns.secondary.com (ns.secondary.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA26396 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 06:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA13409 for ietf-medfree-bks; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 03:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA13405 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 03:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA26172; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 06:52:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200004131052.GAA26172@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: ietf-medfree@imc.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-conneg-content-features-03.txt Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 06:52:30 -0400 Sender: owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Content Negotiation Working Group of the IETF. Title : Indicating media features for MIME content Author(s) : G. Klyne Filename : draft-ietf-conneg-content-features-03.txt Pages : 13 Date : 12-Apr-00 In 'A syntax for describing media feature sets', an expression format is presented for describing media feature capabilities using simple media feature tags. This memo defines a MIME 'Content-features:' header that can be used to annotate a MIME message part using this expression format, and indicates some ways it might be used. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-conneg-content-features-03.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-conneg-content-features-03.txt". 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20000412124701.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-conneg-content-features-03.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-conneg-content-features-03.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20000412124701.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- From owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Thu Apr 13 08:34:36 2000 Received: from ns.secondary.com (ns.secondary.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA28582 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 08:34:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA19262 for ietf-medfree-bks; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 05:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hose.pipex.net (hose.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.58]) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA19229 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 05:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GK-VAIO (userec99.uk.uudial.com [62.188.10.179]) by hose.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39CBD454D; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:30:27 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000413115715.00b9b900@pop.dial.pipex.com> X-Sender: xex41@pop.dial.pipex.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 12:24:04 +0100 To: Patrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E4ltstr=F6m?= From: Graham Klyne Subject: Conneg drafts Cc: ned.freed@INNOSOFT.COM, Ted Hardie , conneg WG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Patrik, The following conneg drafts have been updated and republished to reflect (I believe) Ned's comments: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-conneg-feature-type-03.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-conneg-content-features-03 http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-conneg-content-features-03.txt I am not aware of any other comments received during the last call period. I also note that there are non-normative references to Paul Hoffman's charset/language tag registration memo which I believe is also going through last call. Assuming that draft is approved, I think it would be nice if these could go forward together so that RFC references can be provided. Doing a final review of the published drafts, I have spotted a small error in , section 3: NOTE: Allowing content-type parameters to be part of a type tag value was considered, but rejected because of concerns about canonicalization, ordering, case sensitivity, etc. Only exact, case-sensitive, character matching is defined for media feature expressions [1]. the last sentence should read: Only exact, case-sensitive, character matching is defined for string values in media feature expressions [1]. Do you want me to re-publish this? I've also forgotten to update the copyright year in , and spotted a couple of trivial typos in section 3.1. 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From owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Tue Apr 25 17:55:50 2000 Received: from ns.secondary.com (ns.secondary.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA27157 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:55:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12323 for ietf-medfree-bks; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjgw.ipo.att.com (gate.ipo.att.com [135.197.57.2]) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12317; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exchsj02.ipo.att.com (exchsj02.attlabs.att.com [135.197.72.7]) by sjgw.ipo.att.com (8.8.5/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04368; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LARRY ([135.207.10.108]) by exchsj02.ipo.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 2ZRXK23H; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:53:16 -0700 From: "Larry Masinter" To: Cc: "Paul Hoffman" , "Ned Freed" Subject: comments on draft-hoffman-char-lang-media Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:49:32 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <01JOAXPP8174000288@MAUVE.INNOSOFT.COM> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a private conversation about media features and draft-hoffman-char-lang-media, I thought that it became clear that we should suggest two clarifications on the role of a 'language' and 'charset' tag registered in draft-hoffman-char-lang-media; in particular, a 'language' feature describes a preference (a client that can accept language=fr might also accept an image of a sunset that has no language, or a multilingual document, etc.) but that the 'charset' feature describes not only the ability to process the particular charset but a stronger requirement, that the data be delivered as *labelled* with the named charset. So if you want charset=us-ascii, you don't want charset=ibm367 (even though they're the same). I think that we might want to consider revising the feature registration BCP to encourage registrations to be clearer about whether a feature represents a preference, capability, characteristic, and whether the feature requires explicit labelling as such. Larry From owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Wed Apr 26 06:25:56 2000 Received: from ns.secondary.com (ns.secondary.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA22509 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 06:25:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA10631 for ietf-medfree-bks; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msw.mimesweeper.com (msw.mimesweeper.com [194.168.90.18]) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA10625; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bell.mimesweeper.com (unverified) by msw.mimesweeper.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:21:41 +0100 Received: from GK-VAIO (gk-vaio.mimesweeper.com [194.168.90.137]) by bell.mimesweeper.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 2C7NSGH4; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:21:11 +0100 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000426094102.00b88e10@pop.dial.pipex.com> X-Sender: maiw03@pop.dial.pipex.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:46:25 +0100 To: "Larry Masinter" From: Graham Klyne Subject: Re: comments on draft-hoffman-char-lang-media Cc: , "Paul Hoffman" , "Ned Freed" In-Reply-To: References: <01JOAXPP8174000288@MAUVE.INNOSOFT.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: At 02:49 PM 4/25/00 -0700, Larry Masinter wrote: >I think that we might want to consider revising the feature registration >BCP to encourage registrations to be clearer about whether a feature >represents a preference, capability, characteristic, and whether the >feature requires explicit labelling as such. Does this not presume that the distinction is wholely implied by the feature tag? Use of colour, for example, might be a capability or a preference depending on the circumstances of its use. This suggests to me that the distinction you draw should sometimes not be bound to the feature tag. #g ------------ Graham Klyne (GK@ACM.ORG) From owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Wed Apr 26 13:02:42 2000 Received: from ns.secondary.com (ns.secondary.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA00385 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:02:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15926 for ietf-medfree-bks; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kiwi.equinix.com ([207.20.85.65]) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15920; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hardie@localhost) by kiwi.equinix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA23679; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200004261655.JAA23679@kiwi.equinix.com> Subject: Re: comments on draft-hoffman-char-lang-media To: GK@dial.pipex.com (Graham Klyne) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Cc: LM@att.com (Larry Masinter), ietf-medfree@imc.org, phoffman@imc.org (Paul Hoffman), Ned.Freed@INNOSOFT.COM (Ned Freed) In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000426094102.00b88e10@pop.dial.pipex.com> from "Graham Klyne" at Apr 26, 2000 09:46:25 AM From: hardie@equinix.com Reply-to: hardie@equinix.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with Graham here. I believe it would be valuable to be able to indicate whether a feature is a preference, capability, characteristic, or lable, but I do not believe that could be done at the time of registration. In a bilateral exchange, it will commonly be both a capability and a characteristic. regards, Ted Hardie > > At 02:49 PM 4/25/00 -0700, Larry Masinter wrote: > >I think that we might want to consider revising the feature registration > >BCP to encourage registrations to be clearer about whether a feature > >represents a preference, capability, characteristic, and whether the > >feature requires explicit labelling as such. > > Does this not presume that the distinction is wholely implied by the > feature tag? > > Use of colour, for example, might be a capability or a preference depending > on the circumstances of its use. > > This suggests to me that the distinction you draw should sometimes not be > bound to the feature tag. > > #g > > ------------ > Graham Klyne > (GK@ACM.ORG) > From owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Wed Apr 26 13:57:35 2000 Received: from ns.secondary.com (ns.secondary.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA01251 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:57:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16721 for ietf-medfree-bks; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mauve.innosoft.com (DSL107-055.brandx.net [209.55.107.55]) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16714; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:50:38 -0700 (PDT) From: ned.freed@INNOSOFT.COM Received: from MAUVE.INNOSOFT.COM by MAUVE.INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01JOORXDFNG00004ZJ@MAUVE.INNOSOFT.COM>; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:55:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:45:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: comments on draft-hoffman-char-lang-media In-reply-to: "Your message dated Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:49:32 -0700" To: Larry Masinter Cc: ietf-medfree@imc.org, Paul Hoffman Message-id: <01JOOTKEJZGE0004ZJ@MAUVE.INNOSOFT.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 References: <01JOAXPP8174000288@MAUVE.INNOSOFT.COM> Sender: owner-ietf-medfree@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: > In a private conversation about media features and > draft-hoffman-char-lang-media, > I thought that it became clear that we should suggest two clarifications on > the role of a 'language' and 'charset' tag registered in > draft-hoffman-char-lang-media; in particular, a 'language' feature describes > a preference (a client that can accept language=fr might also accept an > image of a sunset that has no language, or a multilingual document, etc.) > but that the 'charset' feature describes not only the ability to process > the particular charset but a stronger requirement, that the data be > delivered > as *labelled* with the named charset. So if you want charset=us-ascii, you > don't want charset=ibm367 (even though they're the same). I was meaning to bring this to Paul's attention -- sorry. I believe it would be nice (and relatively easy) to address the language tag issue in the draft. I don't insist on it, however, if people feel this should be dealt with in the base specification. However, IMO the latter issue with charset aliases has to be addressed in the draft. (This is speaking as an AD.) But my take on the issue is a bit different from Larry's. (No longer speaking as an AD.) I think that the document should say that aliases SHOULD NOT be used in media feature expressions and that feature expression manipulation tools MAY convert aliases to the the principal name for the charset. I guess I don't see the point of insisting on pure label match semantics here, as it doesn't fix the potential interoperability problem. I'd rather simply say "don't use aliases" and allow correction of that error if it comes up. > I think that we might want to consider revising the feature registration > BCP to encourage registrations to be clearer about whether a feature > represents a preference, capability, characteristic, and whether the > feature requires explicit labelling as such. I'm all for it if it's feasible, but my guess is that there are lots of ratholes in the vicinity. Ned