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                   CALL FOR PAPERS

                  NDSS Workshop on
   Decentralized IoT Security and Standards (DISS 2018)

                  Co-located with
  Network and Distributed System Security Symposium (NDSS)

  https://www.ndss-symposium.org/ndss2018/cfp-ndss2018-diss/
       San Diego, California, on February 18th, 2018
The success of the Internet of Things (IoT) depends significantly on 
solving the underlying security and privacy challenges. Due to their 
scale of deployment and limited resources, some of these systems will be 
extremely challenging to secure. One key aspect is decentralization, as 
many if not most of IoT scenarios include intermittent connectivity. 
Furthermore, decentralized security may help to overcome privacy 
concerns and scalability bottlenecks, both of which become increasingly 
serious in large-scale deployments, such as smart cities or Industry 
4.0.

A decentralized approach to IoT security brings forth many opportunities 
but also challenges, such as operating with constrained device and 
network capabilities, state synchronization, and trust management.

At the same time, many IoT standards are now under development and 
decisions are being made today which will have long-term impact on the 
security of these systems. Of particular interest are open standards 
(e.g., IETF CoAP, OCF, and LWM2M), developed by organizations such as 
the IETF and the W3C including W3C Web of Things. Many of these open 
standards implicitly or explicitly support metadata and have 
interoperability as goals. These features widen the scope and enhance 
the utility of these standards, but also raise new security and privacy 
issues that need to be discussed and addressed. Systems composed of 
multiple standards also raise challenges: for example, how to maintain 
security across bridges and how to evaluate trust across standards 
boundaries.

Following the spirit of NDSS, the goal of this workshop is to bring 
together researchers and practitioners to analyze and discuss the 
potential and limits of decentralized security in the IoT, especially in 
the light of ongoing standardisation work and wider systems 
interoperability.

The proposed topics include the following:

Enabling secure interoperability across IoT ecosystems, including

Applying blockchains and Distributed Ledger Technology to IoT 
infrastructure
Security and availability in multi-tiered IoT edge networks ("fog 
computing")
Peer-to-Peer security and privacy (P2P) in IoT
Decentralized trust and rights management, including access control
Decentralized authentication and access management at the IoT edge
Security and privacy in ongoing IoT standardisation work, including

Security and privacy in W3C Web of Things, OCF, IETF CoRE and ACE, etc.
Semantic modeling and descriptive approaches for security
Convergence/divergence between web, fog, cloud, and IoT security 
standards
Decentralized IoT security architectures for 5G Networks
Privacy, identity, and metadata management
Integrating "multi-standard" systems with different levels of security 
and trust
Other topics related to decentralized security and standardization in 
IoT, such as

Security and privacy trade-offs related to IoT scalability and 
decentralization
Secure Service provisioning and migration in IoT
Sensor and Actuator Key Management and other Security Protocols
Smart Contracts for IoT, including formal verification of smart 
contracts
Application of concepts from outside of the IoT to decentralized IoT 
security
Usable security for decentralized IoT
Submission Instructions

The workshop will accept position papers between three to six pages in 
length, for publication in post-workshop proceedings. Proceedings will 
be published by the Internet Society. Papers shall be submitted for 
review in print-ready form using the NDSS paper template and otherwise 
follow the NDSS paper standards. For a paper to be published, at least 
one of the authors must attend the entire workshop, the paper must be 
revised based on the discussion at the workshop, and the revised paper 
must be submitted in time for the publication deadline.

Please submit your work via 
https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=ndssdiss2018

Important dates and venue

Abstract submission: 01 December 2017
Paper Submissions Due: 08 December 2017
Acceptance/Rejection Notice to Authors: 13 January 2018
The workshop is co-located with NDSS 2018 
(https://www.ndss-symposium.org/ndss2018/), taking place Catamaran 
Resort Hotel and Spa in San Diego, California, on February 18th, 2018.

Organizing committee

Carsten Bormann, Universität Bremen
Dirk Kutscher, Huawei German Research Center
Michael McCool, Intel
Pekka Nikander, Aalto University
George C. Polyzos, Athens University of Economics and Business
Thomas C. Schmidt, Hamburg University of Applied Sciences
Matthias W‰hlisch, Freie Universität Berlin
Program committee

Olaf Bergmann, TZI
Thorsten Dahm, Google
Oscar Garcia-Morchon, Philipps
Raja Jurdak, CSIRO
Matthias Kovatsch, ETH Zurich / Siemens AG
Michal KrÛl, UCL
Barry Leiba, Huawei
Samuel Marchal, Aalto University
Jörg Ott, TU Munich
Oliver Pfaff, Siemens
Shahid Raza, RISE Research Institute
Elena Reshetova, Intel
Eve Schooler, Intel
Göran Selander, Ericsson
Mohit Sethi, Ericsson
Angelos Stavrou, GMU
Davor Svetinovic, Masdar Institute, Khalifa University of Science and 
Technology
Hannes Tschofening, ARM
Florian Tschorsch, TU Berlin
Christian Tschudin, University of Basel
Gene Tsudik, University of California, Irvine
Contact

You can contact the chairs via ndss-diss18-chairs@lists.fu-berlin.de.
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<pre><code>              CALL FOR PAPERS

             NDSS Workshop on
</code></pre>

<p dir=3D"auto">Decentralized IoT Security and Standards (DISS 2018)</p>

<pre><code>             Co-located with
</code></pre>

<p dir=3D"auto">Network and Distributed System Security Symposium (NDSS)<=
/p>

<p dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://www.ndss-symposium.org/ndss2018/cfp-nd=
ss2018-diss/">https://www.ndss-symposium.org/ndss2018/cfp-ndss2018-diss/<=
/a><br>
      San Diego, California, on February 18th, 2018<br>
The success of the Internet of Things (IoT) depends significantly on solv=
ing the underlying security and privacy challenges. Due to their scale of=
 deployment and limited resources, some of these systems will be extremel=
y challenging to secure. One key aspect is decentralization, as many if n=
ot most of IoT scenarios include intermittent connectivity. Furthermore, =
decentralized security may help to overcome privacy concerns and scalabil=
ity bottlenecks, both of which become increasingly serious in large-scale=
 deployments, such as smart cities or Industry 4.0.</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">A decentralized approach to IoT security brings forth man=
y opportunities but also challenges, such as operating with constrained d=
evice and network capabilities, state synchronization, and trust manageme=
nt.</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">At the same time, many IoT standards are now under develo=
pment and decisions are being made today which will have long-term impact=
 on the security of these systems. Of particular interest are open standa=
rds (e.g., IETF CoAP, OCF, and LWM2M), developed by organizations such as=
 the IETF and the W3C including W3C Web of Things. Many of these open sta=
ndards implicitly or explicitly support metadata and have interoperabilit=
y as goals. These features widen the scope and enhance the utility of the=
se standards, but also raise new security and privacy issues that need to=
 be discussed and addressed. Systems composed of multiple standards also =
raise challenges: for example, how to maintain security across bridges an=
d how to evaluate trust across standards boundaries.</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Following the spirit of NDSS, the goal of this workshop i=
s to bring together researchers and practitioners to analyze and discuss =
the potential and limits of decentralized security in the IoT, especially=
 in the light of ongoing standardisation work and wider systems interoper=
ability.</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">The proposed topics include the following:</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Enabling secure interoperability across IoT ecosystems, i=
ncluding</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Applying blockchains and Distributed Ledger Technology to=
 IoT infrastructure<br>
Security and availability in multi-tiered IoT edge networks ("fog computi=
ng")<br>
Peer-to-Peer security and privacy (P2P) in IoT<br>
Decentralized trust and rights management, including access control<br>
Decentralized authentication and access management at the IoT edge<br>
Security and privacy in ongoing IoT standardisation work, including</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Security and privacy in W3C Web of Things, OCF, IETF CoRE=
 and ACE, etc.<br>
Semantic modeling and descriptive approaches for security<br>
Convergence/divergence between web, fog, cloud, and IoT security standard=
s<br>
Decentralized IoT security architectures for 5G Networks<br>
Privacy, identity, and metadata management<br>
Integrating "multi-standard" systems with different levels of security an=
d trust<br>
Other topics related to decentralized security and standardization in IoT=
, such as</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Security and privacy trade-offs related to IoT scalabilit=
y and decentralization<br>
Secure Service provisioning and migration in IoT<br>
Sensor and Actuator Key Management and other Security Protocols<br>
Smart Contracts for IoT, including formal verification of smart contracts=
<br>
Application of concepts from outside of the IoT to decentralized IoT secu=
rity<br>
Usable security for decentralized IoT<br>
Submission Instructions</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">The workshop will accept position papers between three to=
 six pages in length, for publication in post-workshop proceedings. Proce=
edings will be published by the Internet Society. Papers shall be submitt=
ed for review in print-ready form using the NDSS paper template and other=
wise follow the NDSS paper standards. For a paper to be published, at lea=
st one of the authors must attend the entire workshop, the paper must be =
revised based on the discussion at the workshop, and the revised paper mu=
st be submitted in time for the publication deadline.</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Please submit your work via <a href=3D"https://easychair.=
org/conferences/?conf=3Dndssdiss2018">https://easychair.org/conferences/?=
conf=3Dndssdiss2018</a></p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Important dates and venue</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Abstract submission: 01 December 2017<br>
Paper Submissions Due: 08 December 2017<br>
Acceptance/Rejection Notice to Authors: 13 January 2018<br>
The workshop is co-located with NDSS 2018 (<a href=3D"https://www.ndss-sy=
mposium.org/ndss2018/">https://www.ndss-symposium.org/ndss2018/</a>), tak=
ing place Catamaran Resort Hotel and Spa in San Diego, California, on Feb=
ruary 18th, 2018.</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Organizing committee</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Carsten Bormann, Universit=C3=A4t Bremen<br>
Dirk Kutscher, Huawei German Research Center<br>
Michael McCool, Intel<br>
Pekka Nikander, Aalto University<br>
George C. Polyzos, Athens University of Economics and Business<br>
Thomas C. Schmidt, Hamburg University of Applied Sciences<br>
Matthias W=E2=80=B0hlisch, Freie Universit=C3=A4t Berlin<br>
Program committee</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Olaf Bergmann, TZI<br>
Thorsten Dahm, Google<br>
Oscar Garcia-Morchon, Philipps<br>
Raja Jurdak, CSIRO<br>
Matthias Kovatsch, ETH Zurich / Siemens AG<br>
Michal Kr=C3=9Bl, UCL<br>
Barry Leiba, Huawei<br>
Samuel Marchal, Aalto University<br>
J=C3=B6rg Ott, TU Munich<br>
Oliver Pfaff, Siemens<br>
Shahid Raza, RISE Research Institute<br>
Elena Reshetova, Intel<br>
Eve Schooler, Intel<br>
G=C3=B6ran Selander, Ericsson<br>
Mohit Sethi, Ericsson<br>
Angelos Stavrou, GMU<br>
Davor Svetinovic, Masdar Institute, Khalifa University of Science and Tec=
hnology<br>
Hannes Tschofening, ARM<br>
Florian Tschorsch, TU Berlin<br>
Christian Tschudin, University of Basel<br>
Gene Tsudik, University of California, Irvine<br>
Contact</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">You can contact the chairs via <a href=3D"mailto:ndss-dis=
s18-chairs@lists.fu-berlin.de">ndss-diss18-chairs@lists.fu-berlin.de</a>.=
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Hi Jehan,

Thanks — definitely interesting.

We’ll get back to you once our agenda planning and session scheduling 
has progressed!

Best regards,
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On 30 Sep 2017, at 1:37, Jehan Tremback wrote:

> Hello, someone posted about this group on the GAIA list. I thought you
> might appreciate a project that myself and a small team of other
> developers have been working on for a while. It's a system to let
> routers pay each other for internet, using several Babel extensions 
> and
> extremely low-overhead cryptocurrency payments. We want this to
> eventually replace ISPs with decentralized networks of individuals
> running wireless and wired networking equipment. In the short term,
> we're trying to roll it out with wireless ISPs in the US as a way to 
> let
> their customers do some of the work of expanding their networks.
>
> Here's a live demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyFEYEcHJyA
> And here's our whitepaper:
> http://altheamesh.com/documents/whitepaper.pdf
>
> I'll be presenting it at the GAIA group at IETF 100 in Singapore (with 
> a
> live participatory demo if I'm able to make it in person), and am 
> happy
> to present for this group as well, or just join in on the discussions.
>
> -- 
>   Jehan Tremback
>   jehan@altheamesh.com
>
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Hi all,

Here are some updates on our DIN activities:

We are running as a proposed RG now and have a charter page here: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-irtf-dinrg/

Our working charter document is currently still here: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-irtf-dinrg/

(We have reflected the recent comments by Diego, Carsten and other there 
and will synchronize the data tracker version soon.)

In the PRELIMINARY agenda for IETF-100 in Singapore, our meeting has 
been scheduled on Monday morning (9:30 — 12:00) — this may still 
change.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/agenda.html

Melinda and I are currently working on the agenda for the meeting — 
please talk to us if you have a suggestion, contribution etc.

We are also planning to allow some time for discussing scope and next 
steps in Singapore.

Best regards,
Dirk & Melinda












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On 18/10/2017 03:34, Dirk Kutscher wrote:
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> In the PRELIMINARY agenda for IETF-100 in Singapore, our meeting has=20
> been scheduled on Monday morning (9:30 =E2=80=94 12:00) =E2=80=94 this =
may still=20
> change.

Clashing with ANIMA seems like a very bad idea.

   Brian


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Dear Dirk Kutscher,

The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled.
Below is the scheduled session information followed by
the original request. 

dinrg Session 1 (2:30:00)
    Monday, Morning Session I 0930-1200
    Room Name: VIP A size: 100
    ---------------------------------------------
    


Request Information:


---------------------------------------------------------
Working Group Name: Decentralized Internet Infrastructure Proposed RG
Area Name: IRTF
Session Requester: Dirk Kutscher

Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):  2.5 Hours
Number of Attendees: 50
Conflicts to Avoid: 
 First Priority: saag t2trg trans tls icnrg gaia
 Second Priority: detnet quic



People who must be present:
  Dirk Kutscher
  Melinda Shore
  Allison Mankin

Resources Requested:

Special Requests:
  cannot take place on Friday
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Here is my usual eclectic condensed agenda based on the "FINAL" AGENDA
for IETF100.  Remember that "FINAL" means this will be the basis for
printed agenda sheets, there is still some potential for changes after
that.

The CBOR/SUIT conflict has been fixed, but now there is overlap
between 6TISCH and SUIT.  ROLL vs. TEEP is a bit unfortunate, as is
DINRG vs. LPWAN vs. DISPATCH.

All times are SGT (UTC+0800).  (You can get pure UTC times on
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda-utc, for those who want to
listen from remote.)

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten

FRIDAY, November 10, 2017
-- Joint meeting of OCF and T2TRG @ OCF meeting venue

SATURDAY/SUNDAY
-- Hackathon (including various interops)

MONDAY, November 13, 2017

0930-1200  Morning Session I
Collyer 	ART	dispatch	Dispatch WG - 0930-1100 Joint =
with ARTAREA
Collyer 	ART	httpbis	Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG - =
1100-1200
Olivia  	INT ***	lpwan	IPv6 over Low Power Wide-Area Networks =
WG
VIP A   	IRTF***	dinrg	Decentralized Internet Infrastructure =
Proposed RG
Sophia  	OPS	anima	Autonomic Networking Integrated Model =
and Approach WG

1330-1530  Afternoon Session I
Sophia  	ART ***	core	Constrained RESTful Environments WG
Padang  	OPS	v6ops	IPv6 Operations WG

1550-1720  Afternoon Session II
Bras Basah	INT ***	6tisch	IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE =
802.15.4e WG
Collyer 	INT	homenet	Home Networking WG
Padang  	IRTF	maprg	Measurement and Analysis for Protocols
Canning 	SEC ***	suit	Software Updates for Internet of Things =
BOF

1740-1840  Afternoon Session III
Sophia  	INT	ipwave	IP Wireless Access in Vehicular =
Environments WG - 0930-1030
Padang  	SEC	tls	Transport Layer Security WG
Canning 	TSV	tsvwg	Transport Area Working Group WG

TUESDAY, November 14, 2017

0930-1200  Morning Session I
Collyer 	SEC ***	ace	Authentication and Authorization for =
Constrained Environments WG
Olivia  	TSV	taps	Transport Services WG

1330-1530  Afternoon Session I
Bras Basah	ART ***	core	Constrained RESTful Environments WG
Canning 	INT	6man	IPv6 Maintenance WG
VIP A   	SEC	tokbind	Token Binding WG
Padang  	TSV	quic	QUIC WG

1550-1750  Afternoon Session II
Padang  	IRTF***	t2trg	Thing-to-Thing
Olivia  	RTG	bier	Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG
Sophia  	SEC	oauth	Web Authorization Protocol WG

WEDNESDAY, November 15, 2017

0930-1200  Morning Session I
Canning 	INT	dnssd	Extensions for Scalable DNS Service =
Discovery  WG
Olivia  	INT ***	lwig	Light-Weight Implementation Guidance WG =
- 1100-1200
VIP A   	IRTF	icnrg	Information-Centric Networking
Collyer 	TSV	quic	QUIC WG

1330-1500  Afternoon Session I
Bras Basah	ART	uta	Using TLS in Applications WG
VIP A   	RTG ***	roll	Routing Over Low power and Lossy =
networks WG
Collyer 	SEC ***	teep	Trusted Execution Environment =
Provisioning BOF
Orchard 	TSV	rmcat	RTP Media Congestion Avoidance =
Techniques WG

1520-1650  Afternoon Session II
Collyer 	INT	intarea	Internet Area Working Group WG
VIP A   	IRTF	cfrg	Crypto Forum
Orchard 	SEC	oauth	Web Authorization Protocol WG

THURSDAY, November 16, 2017

0930-1200  Morning Session I
Padang  	IRTF	irtfopen	IRTF Open Meeting
Collyer 	OPS	v6ops	IPv6 Operations WG
Sophia  	RTG	detnet	Deterministic Networking WG
Canning 	SEC	tls	Transport Layer Security WG

1330-1530  Afternoon Session I
Sophia  	INT ***	6lo	IPv6 over Networks of =
Resource-constrained Nodes WG
Collyer 	IRTF	panrg	Path Aware Networking Proposed RG
Padang  	SEC	saag	Security Area Open Meeting

1550-1750  Afternoon Session II
Olivia  	ART ***	cbor	Concise Binary Object Representation =
Maintenance and Extensions WG
VIP A   	ART	ice	Interactive Connectivity Establishment =
WG - 1550-1650
Canning 	RTG	rtgarea	Routing Area Open Meeting
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Hi,


I'm new to the list, so a "Hello" to all. :-)


Are there any beginnings in the IRTF/IETF regarding blockchain protocols 
to assign public static IPv6 prefixes or generic blockchain protocols 
which can be used for such an application-specific blockchain protocol?


Regards,


Renne


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Hi Renne,

Welcome!

We have been investigating this issue and published a draft 
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-paillisse-sidrops-blockchain/). 
I attach a more up-to-date version.

Unfortunately I don't know of any ready-to-use protocol to do so :(

I guess you could also build a smart contract on Ethereum.

Regards,

Jordi


El 21/10/2017 a les 12:10, Rene 'Renne' Bartsch, B.Sc. Informatics ha 
escrit:
> Hi,
>
>
> I'm new to the list, so a "Hello" to all. :-)
>
>
> Are there any beginnings in the IRTF/IETF regarding blockchain 
> protocols to assign public static IPv6 prefixes or generic blockchain 
> protocols which can be used for such an application-specific 
> blockchain protocol?
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Renne
>
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Namecoin was one of the first coins after Bitcoin. Not sure what
happened to that project, but it was set up for domain name registry.
https://ens.domains does this on Ethereum now. Registering IP ranges
would be a very similar thing (although more complicated because of the
hierarchical nature of the system).=20

Reading the linked draft, I would say that it might be good to avoid
putting anything into production until PoS has shaken out and been
proven. There are several projects working on it, including Ethereum,
Tendermint, and several others.=20

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  Jehan Tremback
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On Sat, Oct 21, 2017, at 03:48 AM, Jordi Pailliss=C3=A9 wrote:
> Hi Renne,
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> Welcome!
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> We have been investigating this issue and published a draft=20
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> Unfortunately I don't know of any ready-to-use protocol to do so :(
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> I guess you could also build a smart contract on Ethereum.
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> Regards,
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I agree that it is too soon to use PoS in production, but IMHO it won't 
take much time.  I think proposals like Algorand or Ouroboros look very 
promising. Do you know when Ethereum will launch its PoS?

Jordi


On 23/10/17 20:36, Jehan Tremback wrote:
> Namecoin was one of the first coins after Bitcoin. Not sure what
> happened to that project, but it was set up for domain name registry.
> https://ens.domains does this on Ethereum now. Registering IP ranges
> would be a very similar thing (although more complicated because of the
> hierarchical nature of the system).
>
> Reading the linked draft, I would say that it might be good to avoid
> putting anything into production until PoS has shaken out and been
> proven. There are several projects working on it, including Ethereum,
> Tendermint, and several others.
>


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Subject: Re: [Din] DINRG Update
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Yes, I agree. Let’s try to avoid it next time.

Dirk



On 17 Oct 2017, at 21:33, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

> On 18/10/2017 03:34, Dirk Kutscher wrote:
> ...
>> In the PRELIMINARY agenda for IETF-100 in Singapore, our meeting has
>> been scheduled on Monday morning (9:30 — 12:00) — this may still
>> change.
>
> Clashing with ANIMA seems like a very bad idea.
>
>    Brian
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