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A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Alexey Melnikov, a ART Area Director.


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Working Group Name: Dispatch
Area Name: Applications and Real-Time Area
Session Requester: Alexey Melnikov

Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):  1.5 Hours
Number of Attendees: 100
Conflicts to Avoid: 
 First Priority: dmarc uta jmap xrblock stir sipcore rtcweb rmcat payload netvc mmusic insipid ecrit avtcore bfcpbis clue core dcrup doh extra cfrg
 Second Priority: tram tsvwg tsvarea opsarea lmap



People who must be present:
  Alexey Melnikov
  Mary Barnes
  Adam Roach
  Ben Campbell
  Cullen Jennings
  Murray Kucherawy

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Special Requests:
  Please schedule in the 1st slot on Monday morning, list the meeting as coupled with ARTAREA, and avoid the same kind of conflicts with other area meetings and any Bofs and potential new ART WGs.
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Hi,
I've been asked by Ken Murchison to help progress 2 of his drafts:

draft-murchison-tzdist-tzif-00 
The Time Zone Information Format (TZif)

and

draft-murchison-tzdist-geolocate-01 
The Time Zone Data Distribution Service (TZDIST) Geolocate Extension

I am considering reviving of the TZDIST WG to precess these documents, as well as another possible one that would discuss how to store/retrieve different versions of tzdata for historical purposes. At this point I would like to assess how much interest there is in doing this work. If you are interested in reviewing/participating in discussions of these topics, please reply to tzdist@ietf.org or directly to me.

Thank you,
Alexey, as an ART AD 


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Correction: tzdist@ietf.org mailing list was closed, so please reply to dispatch@ietf.org (or me).

On Sat, Feb 3, 2018, at 1:41 PM, Alexey Melnikov wrote:
> Hi,
> I've been asked by Ken Murchison to help progress 2 of his drafts:
> 
> draft-murchison-tzdist-tzif-00 
> The Time Zone Information Format (TZif)
> 
> and
> 
> draft-murchison-tzdist-geolocate-01 
> The Time Zone Data Distribution Service (TZDIST) Geolocate Extension
> 
> I am considering reviving of the TZDIST WG to precess these documents, 
> as well as another possible one that would discuss how to store/retrieve 
> different versions of tzdata for historical purposes. At this point I 
> would like to assess how much interest there is in doing this work. If 
> you are interested in reviewing/participating in discussions of these 
> topics, please reply to tzdist@ietf.org or directly to me.
> 
> Thank you,
> Alexey, as an ART AD 


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Could I please have some time in London to discuss this? 10 minutes =
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href=3D"mailto:mnot@mnot.net" class=3D"">mnot@mnot.net</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""></span></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br=
 class=3D"">A new version of I-D, draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis-02.txt<br =
class=3D"">has been successfully submitted by Mark Nottingham and posted =
to the<br class=3D"">IETF repository.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Name:<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis<br class=3D"">Revision:<span =
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class=3D"">Title:<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">=
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</span>Defining Well-Known Uniform Resource Identifiers (URIs)<br =
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class=3D"">Group:<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">=
	</span><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>Individual Submission<br class=3D"">Pages:<span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>8<br =
class=3D"">URL: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
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2.txt" =
class=3D"">https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-nottingham-rfc5785bi=
s-02.txt</a><br class=3D"">Status: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis/" =
class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis/</=
a><br class=3D"">Htmlized: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis-02" =
class=3D"">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis-02</a><=
br class=3D"">Htmlized: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
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&nbsp;&nbsp;This memo defines a path prefix for "well-known locations", =
"/.well-<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;known/", in selected Uniform =
Resource Identifier (URI) schemes.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
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An update after some off-list feedback.


> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
> Subject: New Version Notification for =
draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis-04.txt
> Date: 15 February 2018 at 4:56:22 pm AEDT
> To: "Mark Nottingham" <mnot@mnot.net>
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>=20
> A new version of I-D, draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis-04.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Mark Nottingham and posted to the
> IETF repository.
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> Name:		draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis
> Revision:	04
> Title:		Defining Well-Known Uniform Resource Identifiers =
(URIs)
> Document date:	2018-02-15
> Group:		Individual Submission
> Pages:		9
> URL:            =
https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis-04.txt
> Status:         =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis/
> Htmlized:       =
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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis-04
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https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-nottingham-rfc5785bis-04
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> Abstract:
>   This memo defines a path prefix for "well-known locations", "/.well-
>   known/", in selected Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) schemes.
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</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
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</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">"Mark Nottingham" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mnot@mnot.net" class=3D"">mnot@mnot.net</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""></span></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br=
 class=3D"">A new version of I-D, draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis-04.txt<br =
class=3D"">has been successfully submitted by Mark Nottingham and posted =
to the<br class=3D"">IETF repository.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Name:<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis<br class=3D"">Revision:<span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>04<br =
class=3D"">Title:<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">=
	</span><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>Defining Well-Known Uniform Resource Identifiers (URIs)<br =
class=3D"">Document date:<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>2018-02-15<br =
class=3D"">Group:<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">=
	</span><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>Individual Submission<br class=3D"">Pages:<span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>9<br =
class=3D"">URL: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis-0=
4.txt" =
class=3D"">https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-nottingham-rfc5785bi=
s-04.txt</a><br class=3D"">Status: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis/" =
class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis/</=
a><br class=3D"">Htmlized: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis-04" =
class=3D"">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis-04</a><=
br class=3D"">Htmlized: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis-=
04" =
class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-nottingham-rfc5785b=
is-04</a><br class=3D"">Diff: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-nottingham-rfc5785bis-04=
" =
class=3D"">https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-nottingham-rfc5785bis=
-04</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Abstract:<br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;This memo defines a path prefix for "well-known locations", =
"/.well-<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;known/", in selected Uniform =
Resource Identifier (URI) schemes.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Please note that it may take a =
couple of minutes from the time of submission<br class=3D"">until the =
htmlized version and diff are available at <a =
href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org" class=3D"">tools.ietf.org</a>.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">The IETF Secretariat<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">--<br class=3D"">Mark Nottingham&nbsp; =
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Dear dispatch list

After an introduction in Prague 
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-99-dispatch/>, a successful 
BarBoF in Singapore and many hallway discussions we learned that there is 
considerable interest for secure interpersonal messaging, which is at the 
same time also usable and interoperable with systems already deployed out 
in the wild. The main concept of the pretty Easy privacy (pEp) work has 
already been published as I-D:

     https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-birk-pep


Basically it is about enhanced opportunistic encryption in email (and 
other messaging). We are seeking more feedback on our existing work as 
well to find the right venue (and scope) for this work to continue in the 
IETF.

In addtion to the main draft, we are working on the following topics (to 
be published as I-Ds shortly), whose early drafts your may access already:

- New privacy-enhancing formats for email based upon already existing
   standards, e.g. PGP/MIME (minimizing unnecessarily exposed meta data,
   including encrypting the subject):
   https://pep.foundation/dev/repos/internet-drafts/file/tip/pep-email/draft-birk-pep-email-NN.txt

- Rating System and Privacy Status to label secure / private types of
   communications:
   https://pep.foundation/dev/repos/internet-drafts/file/tip/pep-rating/draft-birk-pep-rating-NN.txt

- Trustwords (similar to the PGP wordlist or RFC 2289) to make
   authenticated communications easy for end-users:
   https://pep.foundation/dev/repos/internet-drafts/file/tip/pep-trustwords/draft-birk-pep-trustwords-NN.txt


What do you think of this work? If this work is interestig to you, 
we kindly ask you to express your opinion on this list.

Looking forward to your feedback!

Best,
  Bernie et al.


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Please be informed that (as promised in my earlier email) the 2nd I-D of 
the pEp (Pretty Easy Privacy) series has just been published. You can find 
it on:

   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-birk-pep-trustwords/

Abstract:

   In public-key cryptography comparing the public keys' fingerprints of
   the communication partners involved is vital to ensure that there is
   no man-in-the-middle (MITM) attack on the communication channel.
   Fingerprints normally consist of a chain of hexadecimal chars.
   However, comparing hexadecimal strings is often impractical for
   regular users and prone to misunderstandings.

   To mitigate these challenges, this memo proposes the comparision of
   trustwords as opposed to hexadecimal strings.  Trustwords are common
   words in a natural language (e.g., English) to which the hexidecimal
   strings are mapped to.  This makes the verification process more
   natural.

If you consider this work useful, please express your option and view on 
this work on this list now. If you condider this not to be useful, 
please tell us why.

Anyways, we are looking forward to your feedback!

All the best
  Bernie


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.


        Title           : pretty Easy privacy (pEp): Trustwords concept
        Authors         : Volker Birk
                          Hernani Marques
                          Bernie Hoeneisen
        Filename        : draft-birk-pep-trustwords-00.txt
        Pages           : 6
        Date            : 2018-02-22

Abstract:
   In public-key cryptography comparing the public keys' fingerprints of
   the communication partners involved is vital to ensure that there is
   no man-in-the-middle (MITM) attack on the communication channel.
   Fingerprints normally consist of a chain of hexadecimal chars.
   However, comparing hexadecimal strings is often impractical for
   regular users and prone to misunderstandings.

   To mitigate these challenges, this memo proposes the comparision of
   trustwords as opposed to hexadecimal strings.  Trustwords are common
   words in a natural language (e.g., English) to which the hexidecimal
   strings are mapped to.  This makes the verification process more
   natural.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-birk-pep-trustwords/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-birk-pep-trustwords-00
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-birk-pep-trustwords-00


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In my recent email I omitted the information that the Internet Society 
(ISOC) is diretly supporting the pEp work and it has been selected as an 
Innovative Projects for Beyond the Net Funding. Please find more 
information on:

  https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2017/06/12-innovative-projects-selected-for-beyond-the-net-funding/

cheers
  Bernie

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On Thu, 15 Feb 2018, Bernie Hoeneisen wrote:

> Dear dispatch list
>
> After an introduction in Prague 
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-99-dispatch/>, a successful BarBoF 
> in Singapore and many hallway discussions we learned that there is 
> considerable interest for secure interpersonal messaging, which is at the 
> same time also usable and interoperable with systems already deployed out in 
> the wild. The main concept of the pretty Easy privacy (pEp) work has already 
> been published as I-D:
>
>    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-birk-pep
>
>
> Basically it is about enhanced opportunistic encryption in email (and other 
> messaging). We are seeking more feedback on our existing work as well to find 
> the right venue (and scope) for this work to continue in the IETF.
>
> In addtion to the main draft, we are working on the following topics (to be 
> published as I-Ds shortly), whose early drafts your may access already:
>
> - New privacy-enhancing formats for email based upon already existing
>  standards, e.g. PGP/MIME (minimizing unnecessarily exposed meta data,
>  including encrypting the subject):
>  https://pep.foundation/dev/repos/internet-drafts/file/tip/pep-email/draft-birk-pep-email-NN.txt
>
> - Rating System and Privacy Status to label secure / private types of
>  communications:
>  https://pep.foundation/dev/repos/internet-drafts/file/tip/pep-rating/draft-birk-pep-rating-NN.txt
>
> - Trustwords (similar to the PGP wordlist or RFC 2289) to make
>  authenticated communications easy for end-users:
>  https://pep.foundation/dev/repos/internet-drafts/file/tip/pep-trustwords/draft-birk-pep-trustwords-NN.txt
>
>
> What do you think of this work? If this work is interestig to you, we kindly 
> ask you to express your opinion on this list.
>
> Looking forward to your feedback!
>
> Best,
> Bernie et al.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> dispatch@ietf.org
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Hi folks,

So, I've not seen anyone respond to this email.  Is there anyone interested
in this work?  We need to be putting together the agenda for London and
input as to whether folks think this is a topic of interest and worth
discussing f2f would be very helpful.

Regards,
Mary.
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On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 9:17 AM, Bernie Hoeneisen <bernie@ietf.hoeneisen.ch>
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> Dear dispatch list
>
> After an introduction in Prague <https://datatracker.ietf.org/
> doc/minutes-99-dispatch/>, a successful BarBoF in Singapore and many
> hallway discussions we learned that there is considerable interest for
> secure interpersonal messaging, which is at the same time also usable and
> interoperable with systems already deployed out in the wild. The main
> concept of the pretty Easy privacy (pEp) work has already been published as
> I-D:
>
>     https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-birk-pep
>
>
> Basically it is about enhanced opportunistic encryption in email (and
> other messaging). We are seeking more feedback on our existing work as well
> to find the right venue (and scope) for this work to continue in the IETF.
>
> In addtion to the main draft, we are working on the following topics (to
> be published as I-Ds shortly), whose early drafts your may access already:
>
> - New privacy-enhancing formats for email based upon already existing
>   standards, e.g. PGP/MIME (minimizing unnecessarily exposed meta data,
>   including encrypting the subject):
>   https://pep.foundation/dev/repos/internet-drafts/file/tip/
> pep-email/draft-birk-pep-email-NN.txt
>
> - Rating System and Privacy Status to label secure / private types of
>   communications:
>   https://pep.foundation/dev/repos/internet-drafts/file/tip/
> pep-rating/draft-birk-pep-rating-NN.txt
>
> - Trustwords (similar to the PGP wordlist or RFC 2289) to make
>   authenticated communications easy for end-users:
>   https://pep.foundation/dev/repos/internet-drafts/file/tip/
> pep-trustwords/draft-birk-pep-trustwords-NN.txt
>
>
> What do you think of this work? If this work is interestig to you, we
> kindly ask you to express your opinion on this list.
>
> Looking forward to your feedback!
>
> Best,
>  Bernie et al.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> dispatch@ietf.org
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi folks,<div><br></div><div>So, I&#39;ve not seen anyone =
respond to this email.=C2=A0 Is there anyone interested in this work?=C2=A0=
 We need to be putting together the agenda for London and input as to wheth=
er folks think this is a topic of interest and worth discussing f2f would b=
e very helpful.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Mary.=C2=A0</di=
v><div>DISPATCH WG tri-chair</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 9:17 AM, Bernie Hoeneisen <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bernie@ietf.hoeneisen.ch" target=3D"_=
blank">bernie@ietf.hoeneisen.ch</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">Dear dispatch list<br>
<br>
After an introduction in Prague &lt;<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org=
/doc/minutes-99-dispatch/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://dat=
atracker.ietf.org/<wbr>doc/minutes-99-dispatch/</a>&gt;, a successful BarBo=
F in Singapore and many hallway discussions we learned that there is consid=
erable interest for secure interpersonal messaging, which is at the same ti=
me also usable and interoperable with systems already deployed out in the w=
ild. The main concept of the pretty Easy privacy (pEp) work has already bee=
n published as I-D:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-birk-pep" rel=3D=
"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/dr<wbr>aft-birk-=
pep</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Basically it is about enhanced opportunistic encryption in email (and other=
 messaging). We are seeking more feedback on our existing work as well to f=
ind the right venue (and scope) for this work to continue in the IETF.<br>
<br>
In addtion to the main draft, we are working on the following topics (to be=
 published as I-Ds shortly), whose early drafts your may access already:<br=
>
<br>
- New privacy-enhancing formats for email based upon already existing<br>
=C2=A0 standards, e.g. PGP/MIME (minimizing unnecessarily exposed meta data=
,<br>
=C2=A0 including encrypting the subject):<br>
=C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://pep.foundation/dev/repos/internet-drafts/file/tip=
/pep-email/draft-birk-pep-email-NN.txt" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank=
">https://pep.foundation/dev/rep<wbr>os/internet-drafts/file/tip/<wbr>pep-e=
mail/draft-birk-pep-email<wbr>-NN.txt</a><br>
<br>
- Rating System and Privacy Status to label secure / private types of<br>
=C2=A0 communications:<br>
=C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://pep.foundation/dev/repos/internet-drafts/file/tip=
/pep-rating/draft-birk-pep-rating-NN.txt" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bla=
nk">https://pep.foundation/dev/rep<wbr>os/internet-drafts/file/tip/<wbr>pep=
-rating/draft-birk-pep-rati<wbr>ng-NN.txt</a><br>
<br>
- Trustwords (similar to the PGP wordlist or RFC 2289) to make<br>
=C2=A0 authenticated communications easy for end-users:<br>
=C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://pep.foundation/dev/repos/internet-drafts/file/tip=
/pep-trustwords/draft-birk-pep-trustwords-NN.txt" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">https://pep.foundation/dev/rep<wbr>os/internet-drafts/file/tip/=
<wbr>pep-trustwords/draft-birk-pep-<wbr>trustwords-NN.txt</a><br>
<br>
<br>
What do you think of this work? If this work is interestig to you, we kindl=
y ask you to express your opinion on this list.<br>
<br>
Looking forward to your feedback!<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
=C2=A0Bernie et al.<br>
<br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
dispatch mailing list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:dispatch@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">dispatch@ietf.org</a=
><br>
<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch" rel=3D"noreferre=
r" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/l<wbr>istinfo/dispatch</a=
><br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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Just to let you know that draft-birk-pep-trustwords-00), has triggered 
quite some discussion on the SAAG list. Here the link to the archives:

   https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/saag/current/maillist.html

Best,
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2018, Bernie Hoeneisen wrote:

>
> Please be informed that (as promised in my earlier email) the 2nd I-D of the 
> pEp (Pretty Easy Privacy) series has just been published. You can find it on:
>
>  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-birk-pep-trustwords/
>
> Abstract:
>
>    In public-key cryptography comparing the public keys' fingerprints of
>    the communication partners involved is vital to ensure that there is
>    no man-in-the-middle (MITM) attack on the communication channel.
>    Fingerprints normally consist of a chain of hexadecimal chars.
>    However, comparing hexadecimal strings is often impractical for
>    regular users and prone to misunderstandings.
>
>    To mitigate these challenges, this memo proposes the comparision of
>    trustwords as opposed to hexadecimal strings.  Trustwords are common
>    words in a natural language (e.g., English) to which the hexidecimal
>    strings are mapped to.  This makes the verification process more
>    natural.
>
> If you consider this work useful, please express your option and view on this 
> work on this list now. If you condider this not to be useful, please tell us 
> why.
>
> Anyways, we are looking forward to your feedback!
>
> All the best
> Bernie
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> Date: Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:17 AM
> Subject: I-D Action: draft-birk-pep-trustwords-00.txt
> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
>
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
>
>
>         Title           : pretty Easy privacy (pEp): Trustwords concept
>         Authors         : Volker Birk
>                           Hernani Marques
>                           Bernie Hoeneisen
>         Filename        : draft-birk-pep-trustwords-00.txt
>         Pages           : 6
>         Date            : 2018-02-22
>
> Abstract:
>    In public-key cryptography comparing the public keys' fingerprints of
>    the communication partners involved is vital to ensure that there is
>    no man-in-the-middle (MITM) attack on the communication channel.
>    Fingerprints normally consist of a chain of hexadecimal chars.
>    However, comparing hexadecimal strings is often impractical for
>    regular users and prone to misunderstandings.
>
>    To mitigate these challenges, this memo proposes the comparision of
>    trustwords as opposed to hexadecimal strings.  Trustwords are common
>    words in a natural language (e.g., English) to which the hexidecimal
>    strings are mapped to.  This makes the verification process more
>    natural.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-birk-pep-trustwords/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-birk-pep-trustwords-00
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-birk-pep-trustwords-00
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>
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