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Hi,

Mario and I just published version 04 of the JSContact RFC draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-stepanek-jscontact-04

The main updates in this version are:

- Added the LocalizedString type for localization of names, addresses and organizations.
- Renamed ContactMethods to Resource, as not every JSCard necessarily is a person.
- Added the implementation status section with current implementations.
- Changed the document structure for readability.

As always, we look forward to your feedback.

Regards,
Robert
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Hi, all,

The following draft has been posted. Previous discussion occurred on the =
art@ietf.org <mailto:art@ietf.org> mailing list. I have cross-posted =
there already to request further discussion happen here.

I would like to ask here about whether:

	a) the document is considered developed enough to consider =
possible ways forward=20
	b) what those ways forward would be (within an ART WG, a new WG, =
etc.)

I hope discussion and ways forward focus on-list (here), due to travel =
conflicts with upcoming IETFs.

Joe

> On Sep 12, 2019, at 7:44 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>=20
>=20
> A new version of I-D, draft-touch-time-05.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Joe Touch and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>=20
> Name:		draft-touch-time
> Revision:	05
> Title:		Resolving Multiple Time Scales in the Internet
> Document date:	2019-09-12
> Group:		Individual Submission
> Pages:		20
> URL:            =
https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-touch-time-05.txt
> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-touch-time/
> Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-touch-time-05
> Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-touch-time
> Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-touch-time-05
>=20
> Abstract:
>   Internet systems use a variety of time scales, which can complicate
>   time comparisons and calculations. This document explains these
>   various ways of indicating time and explains how they can be used
>   together safely. This document is intended as a companion to
>   Internet time as discussed in RFC 3339.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of =
submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>=20
> The IETF Secretariat
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charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi, =
all,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The following =
draft has been posted. Previous discussion occurred on the <a =
href=3D"mailto:art@ietf.org" class=3D"">art@ietf.org</a>&nbsp;mailing =
list. I have cross-posted there already&nbsp;to request further =
discussion happen here.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">I would like to ask here about whether:</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>a) the =
document is considered developed enough to consider possible ways =
forward&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>b) what those ways forward would =
be (within an ART WG, a new WG, etc.)</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I hope discussion and ways forward =
focus on-list (here), due to travel conflicts with upcoming =
IETFs.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Joe<br =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Sep 12, 2019, at 7:44 PM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">A new version of I-D, draft-touch-time-05.txt<br class=3D"">has=
 been successfully submitted by Joe Touch and posted to the<br =
class=3D"">IETF repository.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Name:<span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>draft-touch-time<br class=3D"">Revision:<span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>05<br =
class=3D"">Title:<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">=
	</span><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>Resolving Multiple Time Scales in the Internet<br =
class=3D"">Document date:<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>2019-09-12<br =
class=3D"">Group:<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">=
	</span><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>Individual Submission<br class=3D"">Pages:<span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>20<br =
class=3D"">URL: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-touch-time-05.txt" =
class=3D"">https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-touch-time-05.txt</a=
><br class=3D"">Status: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-touch-time/" =
class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-touch-time/</a><br =
class=3D"">Htmlized: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-touch-time-05" =
class=3D"">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-touch-time-05</a><br =
class=3D"">Htmlized: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-touch-time" =
class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-touch-time</a><br =
class=3D"">Diff: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-touch-time-05" =
class=3D"">https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-touch-time-05</a><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Abstract:<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;Internet =
systems use a variety of time scales, which can complicate<br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;time comparisons and calculations. This document explains =
these<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;various ways of indicating time and =
explains how they can be used<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;together =
safely. This document is intended as a companion to<br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;Internet time as discussed in RFC 3339.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Please note that =
it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission<br =
class=3D"">until the htmlized version and diff are available at <a =
href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org" class=3D"">tools.ietf.org</a>.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">The IETF Secretariat<br class=3D""><br =
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I gave this draft a quick skim, and it seems sensible.  I'm not an expert
in the configuration / setup of SIP trunks, but I do love automating manual
processes (cf. ACME), and this draft seems like a plausible approach to
automating things about SIP trunk configuration that are currently manual.

Couple of things that jumped out to me on a quick skim, in no particular
order:

1. It would be good to have a tighter requirement for HTTPS in here.  For
example, on the one hand, you have "it is required to secure HTTP using
Transport Layer Security", but on the other hand, "MUST support the use of
the https uri scheme" (not MUST use).  There is no reason to support
unencrypted HTTP.  You can probably borrow some language from RFC 8555
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8555#section-6

2. "Capability set documents MUST be formatted in XML or JSON" -- Why do
you need both?

3. OAuth2 seems like overkill for this application.  OAuth2 is designed for
a 3-party flow where authorization is being delegated; there are only two
entities here.  It would be much simpler to just use some point-to-point
authentication technique, such as TLS client certificates or even HTTP/SIP
Digest authentication.

4. The WebFinger utilization here also seems like overkill.  Once you take
out the OAuth2, you're just discovering a single URL -- at which point you
might as well configure that directly!  In general, this document needs to
specify (1) what configuration the client is presumed to start out with,
and (2) how that information is used to auto-configure the trunk.  Cf. in
ACME, "Each function is listed in a directory along with its corresponding
URL, so clients only need to be configured with the directory URL."  It
seems like all you really need here is a capability server URL and a
certificate / password.

5. The relation types defined using "https://sipserviceprovider/" need to
be changed to something else.  While that's syntactically a URL, it isn't
actually.  If you need a URI that isn't dereferenceable, please provide
some URNs here.

--RLB







On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 9:31 PM Kaustubh Inamdar (kinamdar) <
kinamdar@cisco.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
> The following draft has been posted to dispatch. The draft aims to
> simplify peering between enterprise and service provider SIP networks.
> Discussions/comments are welcome.
>
> -Kaustubh
>
>
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
>
>     A new version of I-D, draft-kinamdar-dispatch-sip-auto-peer-00.txt
>     has been successfully submitted by Cullen Jennings and posted to the
>     IETF repository.
>
>     Name:               draft-kinamdar-dispatch-sip-auto-peer
>     Revision:   00
>     Title:              Automatic Peering for SIP Trunks
>     Document date:      2019-09-10
>     Group:              Individual Submission
>     Pages:              35
>     URL:
> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kinamdar-dispatch-sip-auto-pee=
r-00.txt
>     Status:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kinamdar-dispatch-sip-auto-peer/
>     Htmlized:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kinamdar-dispatch-sip-auto-peer-00
>     Htmlized:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-kinamdar-dispatch-sip-auto-pe=
er
>
>
>
>     Abstract:
>        This draft specifies a configuration workflow to enable enterprise
>        Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) networks to solicit the capabili=
ty
>        set of a SIP service provider network.  The capability set can
>        subsequently be used to configure features and services on the
>        enterprise edge element, such as a Session Border Controller (SBC)=
,
>        to ensure smooth peering between enterprise and service provider
>        networks.
>
>
>
>
>     Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> submission
>     until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I gave this draft a quick skim, and it seems sensible=
.=C2=A0 I&#39;m not an expert in the configuration / setup of SIP trunks, b=
ut I do love automating manual processes (cf. ACME), and this draft seems l=
ike a plausible approach to automating things about SIP trunk configuration=
 that are currently manual.</div><div><br></div><div>Couple of things that =
jumped out to me on a quick skim, in no particular order:</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>1. It would be good to have a tighter requirement for HTTPS in here=
.=C2=A0 For example, on the one hand, you have &quot;it is required to secu=
re HTTP using Transport Layer Security&quot;, but on the other hand, &quot;=
MUST support the use of the https uri scheme&quot; (not MUST use).=C2=A0 Th=
ere is no reason to support unencrypted HTTP.=C2=A0 You can probably borrow=
 some language from RFC 8555 <a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8555=
#section-6">https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8555#section-6</a></div><div><br=
></div><div>2. &quot;Capability set documents MUST be formatted in XML or J=
SON&quot; -- Why do you need both?</div><div><br></div><div>3. OAuth2 seems=
 like overkill for this application.=C2=A0 OAuth2 is designed for a 3-party=
 flow where authorization is being delegated; there are only two entities h=
ere.=C2=A0 It would be much simpler to just use some point-to-point authent=
ication technique, such as TLS client certificates or even HTTP/SIP Digest =
authentication.</div><div><div><br></div><div>4. The WebFinger utilization =
here also seems like overkill.=C2=A0 Once you take out the OAuth2, you&#39;=
re just discovering a single URL -- at which point you might as well config=
ure that directly!=C2=A0 In general, this document needs to specify (1) wha=
t configuration the client is presumed to start out with, and (2) how that =
information is used to auto-configure the trunk.=C2=A0 Cf. in ACME, &quot;E=
ach function is listed in a directory along with its corresponding URL, so =
clients only need to be configured with the directory URL.&quot;=C2=A0 It s=
eems like all you really need here is a capability server URL and a certifi=
cate / password.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div>5. The relation types d=
efined using &quot;<a href=3D"https://sipserviceprovider/">https://sipservi=
ceprovider/</a>&quot; need to be changed to something else.=C2=A0 While tha=
t&#39;s syntactically a URL, it isn&#39;t actually.=C2=A0 If you need a URI=
 that isn&#39;t dereferenceable, please provide some URNs here.</div><div><=
br></div><div>--RLB<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><=
div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 9:31 PM=
 Kaustubh Inamdar (kinamdar) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kinamdar@cisco.com">kina=
mdar@cisco.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padd=
ing-left:1ex">Hi All,<br>
The following draft has been posted to dispatch. The draft aims to simplify=
 peering between enterprise and service provider SIP networks. Discussions/=
comments are welcome.<br>
<br>
-Kaustubh<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
=EF=BB=BF<br>
<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 A new version of I-D, draft-kinamdar-dispatch-sip-auto-peer-0=
0.txt<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 has been successfully submitted by Cullen Jennings and posted=
 to the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 IETF repository.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Name:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0d=
raft-kinamdar-dispatch-sip-auto-peer<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Revision:=C2=A0 =C2=A000<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Automa=
tic Peering for SIP Trunks<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Document date:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2019-09-10<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Group:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Indivi=
dual Submission<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 35<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 URL:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"http=
s://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kinamdar-dispatch-sip-auto-peer-00.t=
xt" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/internet-draf=
ts/draft-kinamdar-dispatch-sip-auto-peer-00.txt</a><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Status:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://d=
atatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kinamdar-dispatch-sip-auto-peer/" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kinamdar-d=
ispatch-sip-auto-peer/</a><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Htmlized:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://tools.=
ietf.org/html/draft-kinamdar-dispatch-sip-auto-peer-00" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kinamdar-dispatch-sip-a=
uto-peer-00</a><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Htmlized:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://datatr=
acker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-kinamdar-dispatch-sip-auto-peer" rel=3D"noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-kinamd=
ar-dispatch-sip-auto-peer</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Abstract:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0This draft specifies a configuration workflow to=
 enable enterprise<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) networks to so=
licit the capability<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0set of a SIP service provider network.=C2=A0 The=
 capability set can<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0subsequently be used to configure features and s=
ervices on the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0enterprise edge element, such as a Session Borde=
r Controller (SBC),<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to ensure smooth peering between enterprise and =
service provider<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0networks.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the tim=
e of submission<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 until the htmlized version and diff are available at <a href=
=3D"http://tools.ietf.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">tools.ietf.=
org</a>.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The IETF Secretariat<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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dispatch mailing list<br>
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Hi Authors,

I have taken over as shepherd for draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs. I =
realize there have been reviews from at least two other shepherds, but =
due diligence requires me to do one myself.

Have two concerns that we need to resolve prior to handing this to the =
IESG, and a few editorial comments that can be handled along with any AD =
or IETF Last Call comments.

Thanks!

Ben.

*** Material Comments/Questions ***

1) There was at least one WGLC comment that this should obsolete RFC =
4329 rather than update it. I recall a comment from Matt that seemed to =
be agreement with that change. Was there a specific decision not to make =
the change?

2) The document lacks a Security Considerations section. It may be that =
there are no new security considerations beyond those in 4329, but if =
that is the case this document needs to explicitly say (and justify) =
that.  But please consider whether it is realistic to say we=E2=80=99ve =
learned nothing new about the security considerations since 4329 was =
published 13 years ago. (We can expect statements to that effect to get =
close scrutiny from the secdir reviewer and security ADs.)

*** Editorial Comments ***

=C2=A72:
- First paragraph:
=E2=80=94 Missing comma after =E2=80=9Cmodular programs=E2=80=9D in the =
first sentence.
=E2=80=94 Consider s/ =E2=80=9Cnow defines =E2=80=9C / =E2=80=9Cdefines =
=E2=80=9C  ( time-specific language becomes dated pretty quickly)
=E2=80=94 Consider a brief (no more than one sentence) explanation of =
the term =E2=80=9Cgoal symbols=E2=80=9D

- 2nd paragraph: This is the first mention of =E2=80=9CModule or =
=E2=80=9CScript=E2=80=9D grammar goals. A very brief explanation of =
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=C2=A73, 2nd paragraph:
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handled along with any AD or IETF Last Call comments.</span></div><div =
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&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
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&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica Neue" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); color: rgba(0, 0, 0, =
0.85098);" class=3D"">*** Material Comments/Questions =
***&nbsp;</span></font></div><div class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica =
Neue" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); =
color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098);" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></span></font></div><div class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica =
Neue" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); =
color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098);" class=3D"">1) There was at least one =
WGLC comment that this should obsolete RFC 4329 rather than update it. I =
recall a comment from Matt that seemed to be agreement with that change. =
Was there a specific decision not to make the =
change?</span></font></div><div class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica Neue" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); color: =
rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098);" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></span></font></div><div class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica =
Neue" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); =
color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098);" class=3D"">2) The document lacks a =
Security Considerations section. It may be that there are no new =
security&nbsp;considerations beyond those in 4329, but if that is the =
case this document needs to explicitly say (and justify) that. &nbsp;But =
please consider whether it is realistic to say we=E2=80=99ve learned =
nothing new about the security considerations since 4329 was published =
13 years ago. (We can expect statements to that effect to get close =
scrutiny from the secdir reviewer and security =
ADs.)</span></font></div><div class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica Neue" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); color: =
rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098);" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></span></font></div><div class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica =
Neue" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); =
color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098);" class=3D"">*** Editorial Comments =
***</span></font></div><div class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica Neue" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); color: =
rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098);" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></span></font></div><div class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica =
Neue" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); =
color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098);" class=3D"">=C2=A72:</span></font></div><di=
v class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica Neue" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); color: rgba(0, 0, 0, =
0.85098);" class=3D"">- First paragraph:</span></font></div><div =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica Neue" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); color: rgba(0, 0, 0, =
0.85098);" class=3D"">=E2=80=94 Missing comma after&nbsp;=E2=80=9Cmodular =
programs=E2=80=9D in the first sentence.</span></font></div><div =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica Neue" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); color: rgba(0, 0, 0, =
0.85098);" class=3D"">=E2=80=94 Consider&nbsp;</span></font><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); color: rgba(0, 0, 0, =
0.85098); font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;;" =
class=3D"">s/&nbsp;=E2=80=9Cnow defines&nbsp;=E2=80=9C =
/&nbsp;=E2=80=9Cdefines&nbsp;=E2=80=9C</span><span style=3D"caret-color: =
rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); font-family: =
&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;;" class=3D"">&nbsp; ( time-specific language =
becomes dated pretty quickly)</span></div><div class=3D""><font =
face=3D"Helvetica Neue" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgba(0, =
0, 0, 0.85098); color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098);" class=3D"">=E2=80=94 =
Consider a brief (no more than one sentence) explanation of the =
term&nbsp;=E2=80=9Cgoal symbols=E2=80=9D</span></font></div><div =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica Neue" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); color: rgba(0, 0, 0, =
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class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica Neue" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); color: rgba(0, 0, 0, =
0.85098);" class=3D"">- 2nd paragraph: This is the first mention =
of&nbsp;=E2=80=9CModule or&nbsp;=E2=80=9CScript=E2=80=9D grammar goals. =
A very brief explanation of those terms would be =
helpful.</span></font></div><div class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica =
Neue" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); =
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color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85098); font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;;" =
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&nbsp;consider s/=E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6&nbsp;specification is using =
...=E2=80=9D/=E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6&nbsp;specification uses =
..."</span></font></div><div class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica Neue" =
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Thanks for the latest review, Ben.  We should be able to have the
editorial changes done very soon, but the substantive comments will take
longer.  I cannot provide a time frame right now, but should be able to
update by next week.

More specific comments inline:

On 19/09/17 15:50, Ben Campbell wrote:
> 
> *** Material Comments/Questions *** 
> 
> 1) There was at least one WGLC comment that this should obsolete RFC
> 4329 rather than update it. I recall a comment from Matt that seemed to
> be agreement with that change. Was there a specific decision not to make
> the change?
> 

I cannot find my original message, but I think was (probably
unnecessarily) more nuanced than that: I could see how that is valid,
and asked if doing so would require porting all the maintained content
from RFC 4329 into this document.

I admittedly went the route of leaving it alone since I don't recall
seeing any response to my question, and porting seemed like a
significant amount of work.

If changing from "Updates" to "Obsoletes" is enough, I can do that
fairly quickly.  If porting the content is needed, that will take me
much longer, but will do that if that's the consensus.

> 2) The document lacks a Security Considerations section. It may be that
> there are no new security considerations beyond those in 4329, but if
> that is the case this document needs to explicitly say (and justify)
> that.  But please consider whether it is realistic to say we’ve learned
> nothing new about the security considerations since 4329 was published
> 13 years ago. (We can expect statements to that effect to get close
> scrutiny from the secdir reviewer and security ADs.)
> 

Reading RFC 4329's existing considerations again, I think they are still
the most relevant, as surprising as that seems.

I'll consult with some of my colleagues to get their input before
submitting an update.

> *** Editorial Comments ***
> 
> §2:
> - First paragraph:
> — Missing comma after “modular programs” in the first sentence.

Changing in my local copy.

> — Consider s/ “now defines “ / “defines “  ( time-specific language
> becomes dated pretty quickly)

I suggest "(starting with 6th Edition) defines "; modules were first
introduced in ES6, so there is some version sensitivity here.

> — Consider a brief (no more than one sentence) explanation of the
> term “goal symbols”
> 
> - 2nd paragraph: This is the first mention of “Module or “Script”
> grammar goals. A very brief explanation of those terms would be helpful.
> 

Will do both in my working copy.

> §3, 2nd paragraph: 
> -  Inconsistent tense.
> -  consider s/“… specification is using ....”/“… specification uses ...."
> 
> 

Changing both in my working copy.


Thank you again, Ben!

- m&m

Matthew A. Miller
< http://goo.gl/LM55L >


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Thanks for the response! Please see inline.

Ben.

> On Sep 17, 2019, at 6:12 PM, Matthew A. Miller =
<linuxwolf+ietf@outer-planes.net> wrote:
>=20
> Thanks for the latest review, Ben.  We should be able to have the
> editorial changes done very soon, but the substantive comments will =
take
> longer.  I cannot provide a time frame right now, but should be able =
to
> update by next week.
>=20
> More specific comments inline:
>=20
> On 19/09/17 15:50, Ben Campbell wrote:
>>=20
>> *** Material Comments/Questions ***
>>=20
>> 1) There was at least one WGLC comment that this should obsolete RFC
>> 4329 rather than update it. I recall a comment from Matt that seemed =
to
>> be agreement with that change. Was there a specific decision not to =
make
>> the change?
>>=20
>=20
> I cannot find my original message, but I think was (probably
> unnecessarily) more nuanced than that: I could see how that is valid,
> and asked if doing so would require porting all the maintained content
> from RFC 4329 into this document.
>=20
> I admittedly went the route of leaving it alone since I don't recall
> seeing any response to my question, and porting seemed like a
> significant amount of work.
>=20
> If changing from "Updates" to "Obsoletes" is enough, I can do that
> fairly quickly.  If porting the content is needed, that will take me
> much longer, but will do that if that's the consensus.

Making it =E2=80=9Cobsoletes=E2=80=9D would require porting content.

I am okay leaving it as is based on the =E2=80=9Cdone is a feature=E2=80=9D=
 principle, but don=E2=80=99t be surprised if it gets brought up in IETF =
LC.

>=20
>> 2) The document lacks a Security Considerations section. It may be =
that
>> there are no new security considerations beyond those in 4329, but if
>> that is the case this document needs to explicitly say (and justify)
>> that.  But please consider whether it is realistic to say we=E2=80=99ve=
 learned
>> nothing new about the security considerations since 4329 was =
published
>> 13 years ago. (We can expect statements to that effect to get close
>> scrutiny from the secdir reviewer and security ADs.)
>>=20
>=20
> Reading RFC 4329's existing considerations again, I think they are =
still
> the most relevant, as surprising as that seems.
>=20
> I'll consult with some of my colleagues to get their input before
> submitting an update.

Thanks.

>=20
>> *** Editorial Comments ***
>>=20
>> =C2=A72:
>> - First paragraph:
>> =E2=80=94 Missing comma after =E2=80=9Cmodular programs=E2=80=9D in =
the first sentence.
>=20
> Changing in my local copy.
>=20
>> =E2=80=94 Consider s/ =E2=80=9Cnow defines =E2=80=9C / =E2=80=9Cdefines=
 =E2=80=9C  ( time-specific language
>> becomes dated pretty quickly)
>=20
> I suggest "(starting with 6th Edition) defines "; modules were first
> introduced in ES6, so there is some version sensitivity here.
>=20
>> =E2=80=94 Consider a brief (no more than one sentence) explanation of =
the
>> term =E2=80=9Cgoal symbols=E2=80=9D
>>=20
>> - 2nd paragraph: This is the first mention of =E2=80=9CModule or =
=E2=80=9CScript=E2=80=9D
>> grammar goals. A very brief explanation of those terms would be =
helpful.
>>=20
>=20
> Will do both in my working copy.
>=20
>> =C2=A73, 2nd paragraph:
>> -  Inconsistent tense.
>> -  consider s/=E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6 specification is using =
....=E2=80=9D/=E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6 specification uses ...."
>>=20
>>=20
>=20
> Changing both in my working copy.
>=20
>=20
> Thank you again, Ben!
>=20
> - m&m
>=20
> Matthew A. Miller
> < http://goo.gl/LM55L >


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As a reminder, the DISPATCH WG deadlines come up quickly after the BoF
deadline.  And, of course, if you think you have a topic of broad interest
that might warrant a full BoF, you should be talking to ADs.

Here are the DISPATCH WG deadlines:

   - Oct 7, 2019. Cutoff date to notify the chairs/DISPATCH WG of plans to
   submit a proposal/topic.


   - Oct 14, 2019. Cutoff for proposals (i.e., problem statement and
   proposed deliverables) for topics posted to the DISPATCH WG mailing list=
.


   - Oct 21, 2019. Announcement of topics that have been dispatched for
   IETF-105.


   - Nov 4, 2019. Draft submission deadline.

That information is always available on the Wiki and there's a bit of
detail on the overall DISPATCH process that's summarized there:
https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dispatch/wiki

We appreciate folks that have already started discussions on topics - that
makes it much easier for us to retain our usual  two hour time slot on
Monday morning.

Regards,
Mary
DISPATCH WG co-chair
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: IETF Chair <chair@ietf.org>
Date: Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 8:41 AM
Subject: Reminder: BOF proposals due in 2 weeks
To: IETF-Announce <ietf-announce@ietf.org>
Cc: IETF <ietf@ietf.org>


I wanted to remind everyone that proposals for "Birds of a Feather=E2=80=9D=
 (BOF)
sessions at IETF 106 are due Friday, October 4 by 23:59 UTC. Instructions
for submitting your proposal are available at:
https://www.ietf.org/how/bofs/bof-procedures/. Please also read
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5434, Considerations for Having a Successful
Birds-of-a-Feather Session, if you are not familiar with it.

If you are working on a BOF request but you=E2=80=99re not quite ready to s=
ubmit
it, please tell the IESG now by sending an email to iesg@ietf.org to get
advance help with the request. We have a number of ways of bringing new
work into the IETF and BOFs are just one of them, so please talk to the
IESG or an individual Area Director (
https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/members/) about your idea if you=E2=
=80=99re
thinking about proposing a BOF.

IETF 106 will take place November 16-22 in Singapore. More information is
available at: https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/106/

Thanks,
Alissa Cooper
IETF Chair

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<div dir=3D"ltr">As a reminder, the DISPATCH WG deadlines come up quickly a=
fter the BoF deadline.=C2=A0 And, of course, if you think you have a topic =
of broad interest that might warrant a full BoF, you should be talking to A=
Ds.<div><br></div><div>Here are the DISPATCH WG deadlines:</div><div><ul st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Arial,&quot;Bitstream Vera Sans=
&quot;,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><li>Oct 7, 2019. Cutoff date to=
 notify the chairs/DISPATCH WG of plans to submit a proposal/topic.</li></u=
l><ul style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Arial,&quot;Bitstream V=
era Sans&quot;,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><li>Oct 14, 2019. Cutof=
f for proposals (i.e., problem statement and proposed deliverables) for top=
ics posted to the DISPATCH WG mailing list.</li></ul><ul style=3D"color:rgb=
(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Arial,&quot;Bitstream Vera Sans&quot;,Helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><li>Oct 21, 2019. Announcement of topics that h=
ave been dispatched for IETF-105.</li></ul><ul style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);fo=
nt-family:Verdana,Arial,&quot;Bitstream Vera Sans&quot;,Helvetica,sans-seri=
f;font-size:13px"><li>Nov 4, 2019. Draft submission deadline.</li></ul></di=
v><div>That information is always available on the Wiki and there&#39;s a b=
it of detail on the overall DISPATCH process that&#39;s summarized there:=
=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dispatch/wiki">https://tr=
ac.ietf.org/trac/dispatch/wiki</a></div><div><br></div><div>We appreciate f=
olks that have already started discussions on topics - that makes it much e=
asier for us to retain our usual=C2=A0 two hour time slot on Monday morning=
.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Mary=C2=A0</div><div>DI=
SPATCH WG co-chair<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong class=
=3D"gmail_sendername" dir=3D"auto">IETF Chair</strong> <span dir=3D"auto">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:chair@ietf.org">chair@ietf.org</a>&gt;</span><br>Date:=
 Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 8:41 AM<br>Subject: Reminder: BOF proposals due in 2 =
weeks<br>To: IETF-Announce &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ietf-announce@ietf.org">ie=
tf-announce@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>Cc: IETF &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ietf@ietf.or=
g">ietf@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br></div><br><br><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-wor=
d;line-break:after-white-space">I wanted to remind everyone that proposals =
for &quot;Birds of a Feather=E2=80=9D (BOF) sessions at IETF 106 are due Fr=
iday, October 4 by 23:59 UTC.=C2=A0Instructions for submitting your proposa=
l are available at:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/how/bofs/bof-proce=
dures/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/how/bofs/bof-procedures/</a>=
.=C2=A0Please also read=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5434=
" target=3D"_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5434</a>, Considerations=
 for Having a Successful Birds-of-a-Feather Session, if you are not familia=
r with it.=C2=A0<br><br>If you are working on a BOF request but you=E2=80=
=99re not quite ready to submit it, please tell the IESG now by sending an =
email to=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:iesg@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">iesg@ietf.=
org</a>=C2=A0to get advance help with the request.=C2=A0We have a number of=
 ways of bringing new work into the IETF and BOFs are just one of them, so =
please talk to the IESG or an individual Area Director (<a href=3D"https://=
www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/members/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf=
.org/about/groups/iesg/members/</a>) about your idea if you=E2=80=99re thin=
king about proposing a BOF.<br><br>IETF 106 will take place November 16-22 =
in Singapore. More information is available at:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www=
.ietf.org/how/meetings/106/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/how/mee=
tings/106/</a><br><br>Thanks,<br>Alissa Cooper<br>IETF Chair</div></div></d=
iv></div>

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It seems like this should work well with SIP Connect. Is there anything =
that would help align it with that ?=20


> On Sep 17, 2019, at 6:29 PM, DOLLY, MARTIN C <md3135@att.com> wrote:
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> How does this fit with SIP CONNECT?
>=20
> Martin C. Dolly
> Lead Member of Technical Staff
> Government & Services Standards
> AT&T
> Cell: +1.609.903.3360
> Email: md3135@att.com
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> On Sep 19, 2019, at 3:14 AM, Kaustubh Inamdar (kinamdar) =
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> 2. "Capability set documents MUST be formatted in XML or JSON" -- Why =
do you need both?

I could live with either but just to pick a starting point, I typically =
prefer JSON but I think in this case, XML would be better. The support =
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seem like it would help in this case.=20

So +1 for just one, and a mild preference for XML.=20



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<div>Hello All, to whom it may concern,</div><div>I present a draft I named SIP 2.5. Currently, this is a set of notes, not a solid document. More to go :) I will host it somewhere else (github?) later.</div><div>Now it is hosted at Yandex.disk, https://yadi.sk/d/PZM6GXoDojxp4g?fbclid=IwAR1FzRhJ1gwMD213ZGl4ZyjVxnaUyGV96riaJcM8Cfkbs_d9IsAQAkgZaTg</div><div>Sincerely yours,</div><div>Anton</div>

