From nobody Fri Dec 3 04:52:16 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dispatch@ietf.org Delivered-To: dispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01893A0914; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 04:52:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: dispatch@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.40.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dispatch@ietf.org Message-ID: <163853593488.31377.14089668346255847798@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2021 04:52:14 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [dispatch] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-11.txt X-BeenThere: dispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: DISPATCH Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2021 12:52:15 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Dispatch WG of the IETF. Title : ECMAScript Media Types Updates Authors : Matthew A. Miller Myles Borins Mathias Bynens Bradley Farias Filename : draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-11.txt Pages : 28 Date : 2021-12-03 Abstract: This document describes the registration of media types for the ECMAScript and JavaScript programming languages and conformance requirements for implementations of these types. This document obsoletes RFC4329, "Scripting Media Types", replacing the previous registrations for "text/javascript" and "application/javascript" with information and requirements aligned with implementation experiences. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs/ There is also an htmlized version available at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-11 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-11 Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts From nobody Fri Dec 3 04:53:22 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA91C3A0910 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 04:53:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -17.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-17.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=google.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SEAA0rFTJpzu for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 04:53:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pl1-x633.google.com (mail-pl1-x633.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::633]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 739183A090F for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 04:53:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pl1-x633.google.com with SMTP id u17so2035634plg.9 for ; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 04:53:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=D7CK0R71+zBukG9Y1iKi6WzYk21yQqq1oGMsHcP3Ocg=; b=mmME0A3r0BxfJugRLKVS2skBs5hHP67bWwgcz/zuiLgNnASCk1EeNO4UyyEfqrofMS YgYFTiRfi6VhUUji9mN9+znD0CgszyFxaqk+/9WQqONAN/B6OydR1/04rMNLD/kui19Y RZWumvbYBOPq4zY41Fcvs3KoUiNEkZtBqUiYgH4z3GTgYm9eu6G7CD2VrJRNYK8Z9zoP AdMn3u6icdNaXaMDHFMnBQsf+AgQn8uOiTf+7fuLKKrM3wg5Go6xN4aZFT+xyn50Ncw4 lpredE3U8O5zZq1Y5u7gBfJVdFtUdqJAN2BI71jlovR2mORqXGftRalQus4CraVWmkr4 qKsg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=D7CK0R71+zBukG9Y1iKi6WzYk21yQqq1oGMsHcP3Ocg=; b=hqOeDbZJaNEeozxYgigke3E6O4kJb4wCQp4KNxv5dhwFWDLXFIkQIhs/qMBZ/5B327 SCxoDOXmNTli8U51A1TjqIr2QRWqJPRoX3QZW7bNSTeloMP4ma1QFWrm15dQMrE152WB fDXpmJ0XaqIaHZVyi2SwGzpCxjjznCbHLXNWuEesafpOJ2aLQT3mObdZfLKGop0suuOf OfhrX0OBAGvkmwKgqMUaM3X++wXdthMtUPy7GzFPjXKPDdwdeAmsoXGWiJceW7WNzpWA dkLSB2AwumPrvsa9nAQnZI/+hQx74aM6kGZZlxOfh134Eq1N9Ej29PENqdFj27vWsZO5 aw9A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532y8pdFzMfKUudy6IVwhLLRHukZu2bYBsrcids8CmEl1JdpOwZV QuN3UYzpFztVU11CUEg263er6KHLhEkVowsiIa0ABw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzdH9cZO/yPSZAWpFIESosemIrPGU0zYxHu2EYfjd79k7EoQAXsoq7WerxGYfUowLR+yVyl3nmeln1ErSr1itU= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:1806:: with SMTP id lw6mr13869801pjb.59.1638535990336; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 04:53:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <163530061139.5790.7895539177781487751@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <163530061139.5790.7895539177781487751@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Mathias Bynens Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2021 09:52:58 -0300 Message-ID: To: Mark Nottingham Cc: art@ietf.org, dispatch@ietf.org, draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs.all@ietf.org, last-call@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a854b405d23d634f" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dispatch] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-10 X-BeenThere: dispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: DISPATCH Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2021 12:53:21 -0000 --000000000000a854b405d23d634f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thanks for the feedback! Revision -11 addresses this: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs/11/ On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:10 PM Mark Nottingham via Datatracker < noreply@ietf.org> wrote: > Reviewer: Mark Nottingham > Review result: Ready with Nits > > This document is ready for publication, with two small nits / questions > about > the content. > > ## Nits > > - In Section 3, the reader is left hanging -- I expected a statement along > the > lines of 'The media types in this document allow such out of band > information > to be conveyed.' > > - Throughout, the phrase 'is not considered part of this document' is a > bit odd > -- do you mean 'is not controlled by this document' or similar? > > > --000000000000a854b405d23d634f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the feedback! Revision -11 addresses this:=C2= =A0https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript= -mjs/11/

On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:10 PM Mark Nottingham via Datatracke= r <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
Reviewer: Mark No= ttingham
Review result: Ready with Nits

This document is ready for publication, with two small nits / questions abo= ut
the content.

## Nits

- In Section 3, the reader is left hanging -- I expected a statement along = the
lines of 'The media types in this document allow such out of band infor= mation
to be conveyed.'

- Throughout, the phrase 'is not considered part of this document' = is a bit odd
-- do you mean 'is not controlled by this document' or similar?


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The relevant patch is here: https://github.com/linuxwolf/bmeck-ids/pull/55 The only other change is the addition of a few well-deserved acknowledgements: https://github.com/linuxwolf/bmeck-ids/commit/3484839507826754dce214b6d2ae0d4e9decd989 We (the authors) believe this document is now ready for publication. On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 9:52 AM wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Dispatch WG of the IETF. > > Title : ECMAScript Media Types Updates > Authors : Matthew A. Miller > Myles Borins > Mathias Bynens > Bradley Farias > Filename : draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-11.txt > Pages : 28 > Date : 2021-12-03 > > Abstract: > This document describes the registration of media types for the > ECMAScript and JavaScript programming languages and conformance > requirements for implementations of these types. This document > obsoletes RFC4329, "Scripting Media Types", replacing the previous > registrations for "text/javascript" and "application/javascript" with > information and requirements aligned with implementation experiences. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs/ > > There is also an htmlized version available at: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-11 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-11 > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org: > :internet-drafts > > > _______________________________________________ > dispatch mailing list > dispatch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch > --000000000000c08bf205d23d6d42 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This revision addresses the Last Call review feedback. The= relevant patch is here: https://github.com/linuxwolf/bmeck-ids/pull/55=C2=A0The only other change is the addition of a few well-deserved acknow= ledgements:=C2=A0https://github.c= om/linuxwolf/bmeck-ids/commit/3484839507826754dce214b6d2ae0d4e9decd989<= div>

We (the authors) believe this document is now ready= for publication.


On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 9:52 AM = <internet-= drafts@ietf.org> wrote:

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the Dispatch WG of the IETF.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= ECMAScript Media Types Updates
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Matt= hew A. Miller
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Myles Borins
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mathias Bynens
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Bradley Farias
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-iet= f-dispatch-javascript-mjs-11.txt
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= 28
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := 2021-12-03

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document describes the registration of media types for th= e
=C2=A0 =C2=A0ECMAScript and JavaScript programming languages and conformanc= e
=C2=A0 =C2=A0requirements for implementations of these types.=C2=A0 This do= cument
=C2=A0 =C2=A0obsoletes RFC4329, "Scripting Media Types", replacin= g the previous
=C2=A0 =C2=A0registrations for "text/javascript" and "applic= ation/javascript" with
=C2=A0 =C2=A0information and requirements aligned with implementation exper= iences.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc= /draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs/

There is also an htmlized version available at:
https://datatracker.ietf.= org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-11

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdif= f?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-11


Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-dra= fts


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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark: thank you for this review! And thanks to the authors for addressing i= t. I am moving the document forward to IESG evaluation. Francesca From: Mathias Bynens Date: Friday, 3 December 2021 at 13:53 To: Mark Nottingham Cc: art@ietf.org , dispatch@ietf.org , dra= ft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs.all@ietf.org , last-call@ietf.org Subject: Re: Artart last call review of draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-= 10 Thanks for the feedback! Revision -11 addresses this: https://datatracker.i= etf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs/11/ On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:10 PM Mark Nottingham via Datatracker > wrote: Reviewer: Mark Nottingham Review result: Ready with Nits This document is ready for publication, with two small nits / questions abo= ut the content. ## Nits - In Section 3, the reader is left hanging -- I expected a statement along = the lines of 'The media types in this document allow such out of band informati= on to be conveyed.' - Throughout, the phrase 'is not considered part of this document' is a bit= odd -- do you mean 'is not controlled by this document' or similar? --_000_HE1PR07MB421752C6DC6F23AA5EF2A549986D9HE1PR07MB4217eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mark: tha= nk you for this review! And thanks to the authors for addressing it. I am m= oving the document forward to IESG evaluation.

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Francesca=

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From: Mathias Bynens <mths@google.com> Date: Friday, 3 December 2021 at 13:53
To: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Cc: art@ietf.org <art@ietf.org>, dispatch@ietf.org <dispatc= h@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs.all@ietf.org <draft-i= etf-dispatch-javascript-mjs.all@ietf.org>, last-call@ietf.org <last-c= all@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Artart last call review of draft-ietf-dispatch-javascri= pt-mjs-10

Thanks for the feedback= ! Revision -11 addresses this: https://datatracker.ietf.org/d= oc/draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs/11/

 

On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at= 11:10 PM Mark Nottingham via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:

Reviewer: Mark Nottingham
Review result: Ready with Nits

This document is ready for publication, with two small nits / questions abo= ut
the content.

## Nits

- In Section 3, the reader is left hanging -- I expected a statement along = the
lines of 'The media types in this document allow such out of band informati= on
to be conveyed.'

- Throughout, the phrase 'is not considered part of this document' is a bit= odd
-- do you mean 'is not controlled by this document' or similar?

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This draft is a work item of the Dispatch WG of the IETF. Title : ECMAScript Media Types Updates Authors : Matthew A. Miller Myles Borins Mathias Bynens Bradley Farias Filename : draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-12.txt Pages : 28 Date : 2021-12-08 Abstract: This document describes the registration of media types for the ECMAScript and JavaScript programming languages and conformance requirements for implementations of these types. This document obsoletes RFC4329, "Scripting Media Types", replacing the previous registrations for "text/javascript" and "application/javascript" with information and requirements aligned with implementation experiences. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs/ There is also an htmlized version available at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-12 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-12 Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts From nobody Wed Dec 8 06:46:00 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D303A09A8 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2021 06:45:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -17.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-17.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=google.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cRgUh57mq_je for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2021 06:45:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pf1-x42d.google.com (mail-pf1-x42d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::42d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 623C43A099E for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2021 06:45:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pf1-x42d.google.com with SMTP id x5so2711934pfr.0 for ; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 06:45:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=d44pmoAIQHTqRAT0wO/o7/VQg0S0w1WE5ke7B/ZDIC0=; b=sfeR818O/2HXJaG5e/48MUBe1uiAaYRvUOEaNp9jdrlE0t7xWXYbrf23IgaIJDftUB Ezlb3c3ZhoheX1LptwB3crATtXZbQoAW+GQDrGV/6JEzi3NC4gL3lV5rOqI6vHs76v6O gG4iiQySTTBeuDhV6kk3y+5eUmVslNBrxi/xXzFv+JxPDfxDdP3JVtRz1gd585DtsXon wDZfg7CjGmemNjqXkYfiPjsvpOvzELXHdzYZSBXF2W2NE+vv1PsJPW93yVHVyie4EuLr 5gI6gfEA/PPDX3SGTcMbnxVZVWndJvgu4OCNB9L38PZk/rXGB0VjwX137DUPPMhSmxjY zgpA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=d44pmoAIQHTqRAT0wO/o7/VQg0S0w1WE5ke7B/ZDIC0=; b=zLsziu2X9rbLk9rFA8f5a+fgHWmexbgq4DSmmt0nM1WcgnoBzoFsNh/TZicDdMyPx6 EKRTGb6ySQUbnFe7zE5Q2MBvMROl7/t3zDi9FhKrqz1ocUIlDeEY8+I3b517CK+qBtRf ZM0cJAiqACpfws+Af/eGjJny1TIVbaas96/2iEzujwmEiDrZdm+k801e31S95iVp4NeG h3zcS/2ufyQNLkpwtprjx0VXqTbNhFGbX1uq79zjeIt9+1ieZAOWoRjbQBNpFotGJBc8 wcHYVS+I0XHKPSdhG/Q0tF8qRsie70Sh9H6TFKuNFVZqRmzHmEU36OeNLV/QC1onepot XbEw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531eF/rFJcwgOAVnQ52ZAfJRdAQcF7mPNuTq9NuvaBamxKBoFwzo 6mKhhjqimqUfdSbCwvLctcVUYeJmqH+Fei0Cm3wU4GKLvZ7JQQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwKW1jLb/IG93imbSg4NNHutWaWb/ykY+ckWqGC5I8ETQfYZl2JzQli1ngr7GAh0v0fYCceFP3fZwtRYh9Akl0= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:808:b0:49f:f2c0:2c98 with SMTP id m8-20020a056a00080800b0049ff2c02c98mr6266519pfk.58.1638974752223; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 06:45:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <163897462574.23832.14215380359131064552@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <163897462574.23832.14215380359131064552@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Mathias Bynens Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 15:45:40 +0100 Message-ID: To: dispatch@ietf.org Cc: i-d-announce@ietf.org, draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs@ietf.org, Robert Sparks Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e759f505d2a38bf8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dispatch] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-12.txt X-BeenThere: dispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: DISPATCH Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2021 14:45:59 -0000 --000000000000e759f505d2a38bf8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" This revision addresses the Gen-ART review feedback by Robert Sparks. Patch with changes: https://github.com/linuxwolf/bmeck-ids/pull/57 On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 3:43 PM wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Dispatch WG of the IETF. > > Title : ECMAScript Media Types Updates > Authors : Matthew A. Miller > Myles Borins > Mathias Bynens > Bradley Farias > Filename : draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-12.txt > Pages : 28 > Date : 2021-12-08 > > Abstract: > This document describes the registration of media types for the > ECMAScript and JavaScript programming languages and conformance > requirements for implementations of these types. This document > obsoletes RFC4329, "Scripting Media Types", replacing the previous > registrations for "text/javascript" and "application/javascript" with > information and requirements aligned with implementation experiences. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs/ > > There is also an htmlized version available at: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-12 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-12 > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org: > :internet-drafts > > > _______________________________________________ > dispatch mailing list > dispatch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch > --000000000000e759f505d2a38bf8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This revision addresses the Gen-ART review feedback by Rob= ert Sparks. Patch with changes: https://github.com/linuxwolf/bmeck-ids/pu= ll/57

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 3:43 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:<= br>

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the Dispatch WG of the IETF.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= ECMAScript Media Types Updates
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Matt= hew A. Miller
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Myles Borins
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mathias Bynens
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Bradley Farias
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-iet= f-dispatch-javascript-mjs-12.txt
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= 28
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := 2021-12-08

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document describes the registration of media types for th= e
=C2=A0 =C2=A0ECMAScript and JavaScript programming languages and conformanc= e
=C2=A0 =C2=A0requirements for implementations of these types.=C2=A0 This do= cument
=C2=A0 =C2=A0obsoletes RFC4329, "Scripting Media Types", replacin= g the previous
=C2=A0 =C2=A0registrations for "text/javascript" and "applic= ation/javascript" with
=C2=A0 =C2=A0information and requirements aligned with implementation exper= iences.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc= /draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs/

There is also an htmlized version available at:
https://datatracker.ietf.= org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-12

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdif= f?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-12


Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-dra= fts


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Kucherawy" , Francesca Palombini Cc: "dispatch@ietf.org" , Paul Eggert , Arthur David Olson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bd6a9e05d34be2fe" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dispatch] draft-murchison-rfc8536bis-02 X-BeenThere: dispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: DISPATCH Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 23:36:11 -0000 --000000000000bd6a9e05d34be2fe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi All - this is mostly an update to a document from a closed WG. The only dispatch input we have heard on it was back on the -00 where a previous participant in the now closed wg thought the update made sense as an AD sponsored item, and there being no contrary input, it seemed to be a good candidate for AD sponsorship to the dispatch chairs as well. Murray has agreed that makes sense and the dispatch chairs have offered this list as a venue for any related discussion during sponsorship. I anticipate we'll hear more from Murray and authors on this - but I wanted to tie up the dispatch loose end. On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 11:36 AM Ken Murchison wrote: > Hi all, > > I was traveling during DISPATCH this week and wasn't able to ask this > question there, so I'm bringing it to the list. I'm looking to dispatch > draft-murchison-rfc8536bis > . RFC > 8536 was previously handled on the tzdist-bis mailing list and was > shepherded by Eliot Lear. Per the introduction in the draft: > > This document obsoletes RFC 8536 , providing editorial improvements, > new details, and errata fixes while keeping full compatibility with > the interchange format of RFC 8536 . Additionally, a new version of > the format is defined. The changes from RFC 8536 are summarized in > Appendix C . > > I, along with my co-authors, would be happy to continue this work wherever > this group deems suitable. I don't believe that we expect too much churn > at this point, unless serious technical issues are raised. > > FWIW, recent versions of tzcode already are capable of using the v4 format > where appropriate. > > Regards, > Ken > > -- > Kenneth Murchison > Senior Software Developer > Fastmail US LLC > > _______________________________________________ > dispatch mailing list > dispatch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch > --000000000000bd6a9e05d34be2fe Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All - this is mostly an update to a document from a clo= sed WG. The only dispatch input we have heard on it was back on the -00 whe= re a previous participant in the now closed wg thought the update made sens= e as an AD sponsored item, and there being no contrary input, it seemed to = be a good candidate for AD sponsorship to the dispatch chairs as well. Murr= ay has agreed that makes sense and the dispatch chairs have offered this li= st as a venue for any related discussion during sponsorship.

=
I anticipate we'll hear more from Murray and authors on this - but= I wanted to tie up the dispatch loose end.

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 11= :36 AM Ken Murchison <murch@fastma= il.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20

Hi all,

I was traveling during DISPATCH this week and wasn't able to ask this question there, so I'm bringing it to the list.=C2=A0 I'= m looking to dispatch draft-murchison-rfc8536bis.=C2=A0 RFC 8536 was previously handled on the tzdist-bis mailing list and was shepherded by Eliot Lear.=C2=A0 Per the introduction in the draft= :

   This document obsoletes RFC 8536, providing editorial impr=
ovements,
   new details, and errata fixes while keeping full compatibility with
   the interchange format of RFC 8536.  Additionally, a new version of
   the format is defined.  The changes from RFC 8536 are summarized in
   Appendix C.

I, along with my co-authors, would be happy to continue this work wherever this group deems suitable.=C2=A0 I don't believe that we expect too much churn at this point, unless serious technical issues are raised.

FWIW, recent versions of tzcode already are capable of using the v4 format where appropriate.

Regards,
Ken

--=20
Kenneth Murchison
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Fastmail US LLC
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I've read over the changes relating to truncation in particular, and the text seems good.=C2=A0 But there are often corner cases.=C2=A0 I wrote test code to validate the previous work, and I= suggest that someone do the same for this document, particularly as relates to =C2=A75.1.=C2=A0 If someone contacts me offline, I ca= n provide that code, privately with the usual caveats (not for release, should not be used in production, may cause cancer or warts, etc).=C2=A0 I might have some time to whack the code myself, but I can't promise it.=C2=A0

Bugs here could conceivably cause people a fair amount of gastro-intestinal distress.=C2=A0 Therefore, it might be good to ge= t some reviews from the tz mailing list, as well as the downstream implementations (php, python, java).

Eliot

On 17.12.21 00:35, Patrick McManus wrote:
Hi All - this is mostly an update to a document from a closed WG. The only dispatch input we have heard on it was back on the -00 where a previous participant in the now closed wg thought the update made sense as an AD sponsored item, and there being no contrary input, it seemed to be a good candidate for AD sponsorship to the dispatch chairs as well. Murray has agreed that makes sense and the dispatch chairs have offered this list as a venue for any related discussion during sponsorship.

I anticipate we'll hear more from Murray and authors on this - but I wanted to tie up the dispatch loose end.

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 11:= 36 AM Ken Murchison <murc= h@fastmail.com> wrote:
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Hi all,

I was traveling during DISPATCH this week and wasn't able to ask this question there, so I'm bringing it to the list.=C2=A0 I'm looking to dispatch draft-murchiso= n-rfc8536bis.=C2=A0 RFC 8536 was previously handled on the tzdist-bis mailing list and was shepherded by Eliot Lear.=C2=A0 Per the introduction in the draft:

   This document obsoletes R=
FC 8536, providing editorial improvements,
   new details, and errata fixes while keeping full compatibility with
   the interchange format of RFC 8536.  A=
dditionally, a new version of
   the format is defined.  The changes from R=
FC 8536 are summarized in
   Appendix C.

I, along with my co-authors, would be happy to continue this work wherever this group deems suitable.=C2=A0 I don't= believe that we expect too much churn at this point, unless serious technical issues are raised.

FWIW, recent versions of tzcode already are capable of using the v4 format where appropriate.

Regards,
Ken

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The idea would be that a provider may = evaluate some characteristics of the message, and before issuing a "250 Ok"= have already determined the message would be routed to the spam folder. S= omething as simple as: 255 Ok - Routing to spam folder This would likely need some "Security Considerations" section about how inf= orming a malicious entity may be undesirable. I'm willing to write this up= as a proposed draft, though I'm not entirely sure where to direct that dra= ft. Thank you for any advice you could provide. -- Alex Brotman Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse & Messaging Policy Comcast From nobody Fri Dec 17 11:54:53 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8E93A09A4 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:54:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.751 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.751 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-1.852, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 50g2RgCLHN9s for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:54:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Border3.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.244.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D8F83A09A3 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:54:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD081600BB for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:54:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7S0xuDPOZXqn for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:54:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix, from userid 89) id 6376A16005E; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:53:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07B716012E; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 00:42:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 8JDWaF8YZges; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 00:42:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D68D16012F; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 00:42:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id cmDIKSLs-C-4; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 00:42:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (cpe-172-91-119-151.socal.res.rr.com [172.91.119.151]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C1F2016012E; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 00:42:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1e10c744-2a49-81a6-5885-650794aa94d2@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 00:42:19 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.3.1 Content-Language: en-US To: Eliot Lear Cc: "dispatch@ietf.org" , Arthur David Olson , Patrick McManus , Ken Murchison , "Murray S. Kucherawy" , Francesca Palombini References: <2b51160c-af50-c1fb-d9da-5ae3f9425f2e@fastmail.com> <779ba7dd-50af-be96-260f-fd6ba06cda8b@lear.ch> From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department In-Reply-To: <779ba7dd-50af-be96-260f-fd6ba06cda8b@lear.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dispatch] draft-murchison-rfc8536bis-02 X-BeenThere: dispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: DISPATCH Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 19:54:51 -0000 On 12/16/21 23:22, Eliot Lear wrote: > I wrote test code to validate the previous work, and I suggest that=20 > someone do the same for this document, particularly as relates to =C2=A7= 5.1. Yes, it would be nice for someone to do that. (Hope it doesn't have to=20 be me....) PS. Thought you might be amused by today's email exchange about glibc=20 and a truncated TZif file representing Asuncion, Paraguay. It indicates=20 some real-world experience and issues with TZif truncation (this email=20 exchange is independent of the 8536bis draft changes): https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2021-December/134316.html https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2021-December/134322.html From nobody Mon Dec 20 09:19:35 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2433A10E8; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 09:19:22 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Improper folded header field made up entirely of whitespace (char 20 hex): X-Spam-Report: ...that system for details. Content previ[...] X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.748 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.748 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-1.852, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bJHFsw2PSdXb; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 09:19:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.opensips.org (opensips.org [136.243.23.236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCC6D3A10E7; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 09:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [81.196.141.80] (helo=[192.168.1.199]) by mail.opensips.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mzMBH-0008Pl-Uj; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 17:10:36 +0000 To: "Mojtaba Esfandiari.S" , sipcore@ietf.org, dispatch@ietf.org References: From: Liviu Chircu Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 19:19:07 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------91F75A05BAAB5295003587EF" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dispatch] [sipcore] Exception in RFC 3261 document X-BeenThere: dispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: DISPATCH Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 17:19:23 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------91F75A05BAAB5295003587EF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 19.12.2021 15:10, Mojtaba Esfandiari.S wrote: > *"When a UAC resubmits a request with its credentials after receiving > a 401 (Unauthorized) or 407 (Proxy Authentication Required) response, > it MUST increment the CSeq header field value as it would normally > when sending an updated request."* But that's as arbitrary of a CSeq as it can be, right?  As I read 8.1.1.5, the caller is simply free to choose their own starting CSeq.  It can be the number *1* for all initial requests it ever builds - the server should still play along. Best Regards, -- Liviu Chircu www.twitter.com/liviuchircu | www.opensips-solutions.com --------------91F75A05BAAB5295003587EF Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 19.12.2021 15:10, Mojtaba Esfandiari.S wrote:
"When a UAC resubmits a request with its credentials after receiving a 401 (Unauthorized) or 407 (Proxy Authentication Required) response, it MUST increment the CSeq header field value as it would normally when sending an updated request."

But that's as arbitrary of a CSeq as it can be, right?  As I read 8.1.1.5, the caller is simply free to choose their own starting CSeq.  It can be the number 1 for all initial requests it ever builds - the server should still play along.

Best Regards,

-- 
Liviu Chircu
www.twitter.com/liviuchircu | www.opensips-solutions.com
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X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 06:56:10 -0000 --_000_MN2PR11MB4351CC9CEA4053AFCDBDBAABF7419MN2PR11MB4351namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anton, Thanks for the feedback. I understand the potential abuse implications, th= ough spammers already have many methods to test efficacy. The server side = could exhibit control over whether or not to provide this feedback (not in = ACL, or poor IP reputation, etc). The goal is to provide receivers with an = standardized option to provide feedback in a more real-time fashion, should= they choose to do so. This could help senders detect and stop outbound ab= use they've previously missed. -- Alex Brotman Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse & Messaging Policy Comcast ________________________________ From: Anton Tveretin Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2021 12:06:00 AM To: Brotman, Alex Cc: DISPATCH list Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dispatch] SMTP Code for Undesirable Messages Hello Alex, I think it is sometimes a good idea. But the problem is that spammers somet= imes use this kind of feedback to check for valid addresses. For this reaso= n, some implementers would avoid this feedback. Also, a check for spam need= not complete immediately. The incoming message might be bounced later. Sincerely yours, Anton -- Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 17:04:46 +0000 From: "Brotman, Alex" > To: "dispatch@ietf.org" > Subject: [dispatch] SMTP Code for Undesirable Messages Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Hello, I've been wondering if it may be beneficial for a mailbox provider to be ab= le to signal back to the sender that the message is being accepted, but is = undesirable based on some criteria. The idea would be that a provider may e= valuate some characteristics of the message, and before issuing a "250 Ok" = have already determined the message would be routed to the spam folder. Som= ething as simple as: 255 Ok - Routing to spam folder This would likely need some "Security Considerations" section about how inf= orming a malicious entity may be undesirable. I'm willing to write this up = as a proposed draft, though I'm not entirely sure where to direct that draf= t. Thank you for any advice you could provide. -- Alex Brotman Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse & Messaging Policy Comcast --_000_MN2PR11MB4351CC9CEA4053AFCDBDBAABF7419MN2PR11MB4351namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anton,

Thanks for the feedback.  I understand the potential= abuse implications, though spammers already have many methods to test effi= cacy.  The server side could exhibit control over whether or not to pr= ovide this feedback (not in ACL, or poor IP reputation, etc). The goal is to provide receivers with an standardized op= tion to provide feedback in a more real-time fashion, should they choose to= do so.  This could help senders detect and stop outbound abuse they'v= e previously missed.  

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Alex Brotman
Sr. Engineer,  Anti-Abuse & Messaging Policy
Comcast
From: Anton Tveretin <tv= eretinas@yandex.ru>
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2021 12:06:00 AM
To: Brotman, Alex <Alex_Brotman@comcast.com>
Cc: DISPATCH list <dispatch@ietf.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dispatch] SMTP Code for Undesirable Message= s
 
Hello Alex,
I think it is sometimes a good idea. But the problem is that spammers = sometimes use this kind of feedback to check for valid addresses. For this = reason, some implementers would avoid this feedback. Also, a check for spam= need not complete immediately. The incoming message might be bounced later.
Sincerely yours,
Anton
 
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 17:04:46 +0000
From: "Brotman, Alex" <Alex_Brotman@comcast.com= >
To: "dispatch@ietf.org" <dispatch@ietf.org= >
Subject: [dispatch] SMTP Code for Undesirable Messages
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Hello,

I've been wondering if it may be beneficial for a mailbox provider to be ab= le to signal back to the sender that the message is being accepted, but is = undesirable based on some criteria. The idea would be that a provider may e= valuate some characteristics of the message, and before issuing a "250 Ok" have already determin= ed the message would be routed to the spam folder. Something as simple as:<= br>
255 Ok - Routing to spam folder

This would likely need some "Security Considerations" section abo= ut how informing a malicious entity may be undesirable. I'm willing to writ= e this up as a proposed draft, though I'm not entirely sure where to direct= that draft. Thank you for any advice you could provide.
 

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Alex Brotman
Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse & Messaging Policy
Comcast
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