From nobody Fri Apr 1 09:54:35 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dlt-networking@ietf.org Delivered-To: dlt-networking@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D9C3A006A; Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:54:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: IETF Secretariat To: "IETF Announcement List" Cc: mmcbride7@gmail.com, farinacci@gmail.com, dlt-networking@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.46.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Message-ID: <164883206521.18978.823035018889389214@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2022 09:54:25 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Dlt-networking] New Non-WG Mailing List: Dlt-networking X-BeenThere: dlt-networking@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: DLT Networking List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2022 16:54:26 -0000 A new IETF non-working group email list has been created. List address: dlt-networking@ietf.org Archive: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dlt-networking/ To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dlt-networking Purpose: Crypto currencies (such as Bitcoin) and their DLT networks (such as Blockchain) don’t concern themselves with the underlying TCP/IP network. They have a P2P network, with a pool of transport layer (TCP, UDP) connections, and they have done a good job securing their application and hope the TCP/IP network performs as needed. What is the impact of choices made by the application design on the network, e.g., in terms of costs, traffic generated etc.? This list help share work to understand the impact of DLTs on provider networks and the possible opportunities to improve on those impacts. And there are a variety of opportunities to understand including DLTs potentially providing better trust with packet capture data, moving network management to a decentralized smart contract-based system, signing routing advertisements and proof of transit, possibly including RPKI ROA’s in a blockchain, and how overlays, such as LISP, could provide intimacy between the application layer and network layer. A DLT in Networking side meeting occurred at IETF 113 and this list will provide an opportunity for the participants to further discuss this topic. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, Thank you for joining the list. If you haven't seen the recording from 113 = you can find it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFLCOkwyVCyI. We will create a github a= nd post the presentations there. I'm happy to send you the presentations in= the meantime. A couple of drafts presented were: draft-trossen-rtgwg-impact-of-dlts-01 draft-hardjono-blockchain-interop-arch-03 I'm envisioning this list to be an incubator of sorts for drafts that may b= e able to find a home in a wg (or not). We can hash it out here first. I'm = planning, for instance, to write one on blockchain and bgp before the next = ietf. Plenty to discuss from our side meeting. Feel free to use the list. Mike PS - ccing the blockchain-interop list which is specifically working on wha= t Thomas Hardjono discussed. --_000_BYAPR13MB2582843D68E7EAF9C0A61CAEF4E49BYAPR13MB2582namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello all,

 

Thank you for joining the list. If you haven’t= seen the recording from 113 you can find it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFLCOkwyVCyI. We will create a github and post the presentations there. I’= ;m happy to send you the presentations in the meantime.

 

A couple of drafts presented were:

 

draft-trossen-rtgwg-impact-of-dlts-01

draft-hardjono-blockchain-interop-arch-03=

 

I’m envisioning this list to be an incubator o= f sorts for drafts that may be able to find a home in a wg (or not). We can= hash it out here first. I’m planning, for instance, to write one on = blockchain and bgp before the next ietf.

 

Plenty to discuss from our side meeting. Feel free t= o use the list.

 

Mike

 

PS – ccing the blockchain-interop list which i= s specifically working on what Thomas Hardjono discussed.

 

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