From nobody Mon Mar 3 13:57:05 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48631A00D3 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 13:57:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UTyhp4MrLMzi for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 13:57:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx20.mailtransaction.com (mx20.mailtransaction.com [78.46.16.213]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927DD1A01BA for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 13:57:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx14.mailtransaction.com (mx11.mailtransaction.com [88.198.59.230]) by mx20.mailtransaction.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3fdFYw69wDz1L8fc; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 22:56:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from jaguar.sonnection.nl (D57E1702.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.126.23.2]) by mx14.mailtransaction.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3fdFYw4lS7z5MhBK; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 22:56:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jaguar.sonnection.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EBC122E85; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 22:56:51 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sonnection.nl Received: from jaguar.sonnection.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jaguar.sonnection.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id gv4MKNUIXyzV; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 22:56:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.49] (unknown [192.168.1.49]) by jaguar.sonnection.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1F6BC122E77; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 22:56:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5314FA9E.9090908@sonnection.nl> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 22:56:46 +0100 From: "Rolf E. Sonneveld" Organization: Sonnection B.V. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Trent Adams" , "dmarc@ietf.org" References: <5311329C.1030902@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5311329C.1030902@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=sonnection.nl; s=2009; t=1393883812; bh=YInpNUZFcIf75u34DzNGwc5ayr+VuNJZJLwblXRhSDM=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=Ya5EssMLbniE6JABmPL476EZ+hCNl3o8dGTCHtVNYUejT2XM4mTp18d9H6asq4fAU Fm1Av8Vlh6sS83qPuiB8BXYPegC9BpUp/ZWeIWhI/vD6mNi+KnIKA3aOCXo2fzLbmc Uux2LhP4hLugxWSLztvrqaYbEgov8xmK64nm1Nps= DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.2 mx20.mailtransaction.com 3fdFYw69wDz1L8fc Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/tPNPVi-VrKsJDLoc610AV5zZq7I Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Calling for Input on DMARC Draft X-BeenThere: dmarc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: R.E.Sonneveld@sonnection.nl List-Id: "Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Compliance \(DMARC\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 21:57:03 -0000 On 03/01/2014 02:06 AM, J. Trent Adams wrote: > DMARC Folks - > > As you know, the authors of the DMARC specification have been looking to > find a home for the base document somewhere within the IETF. We've > explored various options in the past year, and now it looks like we've > found the right path. > > We have chosen to submit the DMARC specification via the Independent > Submission Editor (ISE). This will have three primary effects: (1) it > will be published with a permanent reference location; (2) it will be > classified as Informational rather than as a Proposed Standard; (3) the > ISE process is a much more direct path to publication. > > A primary reason for this shift is that DMARC is already a mature > specification with broad adoption. We also want to help support its > continued deployment and provide a foundation for potential future > evolution. There are some related issues that still need to mature > further, such as reporting practices, domain boundary identification, > etc. To facilitate those work streams, it is important to publish a > referenceable version of the specification. > > To support this effort, we are asking the community for input as we > prepare the current version for submission to the ISE. We are seeking > concise statements that can be incorporated into the specification > primarily with a focus toward clarity, readability, and utility. While > we're happy to continue cataloging suggestions for future work, our goal > is primarily to tighten up this version of the document. Please send > your comments to this IETF discussion list within the next week as we > intend to submit the final version of the specification to the ISE by > the close of the meeting in London. > > Current Specification: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base/ What about the contributions made by Franck Martin [1], Tim Draegen [2] and John Levine [3]? AFAICS these comments/suggestions have not yet been incorporated in a new draft version -03, except maybe part of [3]. /rolf [1] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dmarc/current/msg00683.html [2] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dmarc/current/msg00645.html [3] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dmarc/current/msg00584.html From nobody Mon Mar 3 15:13:39 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45AB1A02B8 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 15:13:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y27RMR31Bs-I for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 15:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ie0-x22e.google.com (mail-ie0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43731A0296 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 15:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ie0-f174.google.com with SMTP id rp18so6886108iec.19 for ; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 15:13:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y2yYXo/cc6+RAZsEpFda5m3ZaXBQ7uCyJDoox1JbRHc=; b=juuKbmO73UdS/57QQ5k76kOnhkQuNbS7/82NEe4Do3NVGl+ad6h5ZZV8QP20Sy4XZM KPz7Pt1fVEc7cljSSaqe09yPoqT2HOhJ8zSmNylZ8I5el3u7d2ySgn1wiYqzXkgStVtz fzlTuZJTAlwofTGZupX4z2RDncbeKU7kQHHGi7b1whlT3CK/cNA/CZ0uRddLewl6+Drw A1VBh+CIz9TCY3aB6ZoPKnyB1WGxiameoAnbQiIui8QclaOVClkIvP2XcZqNk5iUl6lK jc9zBZEkUDviUOEvbphZ1Z9hKtaRyPLXjJh06nW+1HdvFox4BsFJtYzrd4XqMPv5YWP2 QZJg== X-Received: by 10.50.79.194 with SMTP id l2mr25128474igx.8.1393888412533; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 15:13:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from jtrentadams-isoc.local (c-67-166-0-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net. [67.166.0.110]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r4sm43777180igh.1.2014.03.03.15.13.31 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Mar 2014 15:13:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <53150C9B.6000106@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 16:13:31 -0700 From: "J. Trent Adams" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: R.E.Sonneveld@sonnection.nl, "dmarc@ietf.org" References: <5311329C.1030902@gmail.com> <5314FA9E.9090908@sonnection.nl> In-Reply-To: <5314FA9E.9090908@sonnection.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/L19iSktWWbgU-3LHnkc2POfETk8 Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Calling for Input on DMARC Draft X-BeenThere: dmarc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Compliance \(DMARC\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 23:13:38 -0000 Rolf - On 3/3/14 2:56 PM, Rolf E. Sonneveld wrote: > On 03/01/2014 02:06 AM, J. Trent Adams wrote: >> DMARC Folks - >> >> As you know, the authors of the DMARC specification have been looking to >> find a home for the base document somewhere within the IETF. We've >> explored various options in the past year, and now it looks like we've >> found the right path. >> >> We have chosen to submit the DMARC specification via the Independent >> Submission Editor (ISE). This will have three primary effects: (1) it >> will be published with a permanent reference location; (2) it will be >> classified as Informational rather than as a Proposed Standard; (3) the >> ISE process is a much more direct path to publication. >> >> A primary reason for this shift is that DMARC is already a mature >> specification with broad adoption. We also want to help support its >> continued deployment and provide a foundation for potential future >> evolution. There are some related issues that still need to mature >> further, such as reporting practices, domain boundary identification, >> etc. To facilitate those work streams, it is important to publish a >> referenceable version of the specification. >> >> To support this effort, we are asking the community for input as we >> prepare the current version for submission to the ISE. We are seeking >> concise statements that can be incorporated into the specification >> primarily with a focus toward clarity, readability, and utility. While >> we're happy to continue cataloging suggestions for future work, our goal >> is primarily to tighten up this version of the document. Please send >> your comments to this IETF discussion list within the next week as we >> intend to submit the final version of the specification to the ISE by >> the close of the meeting in London. >> >> Current Specification: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base/ > > What about the contributions made by Franck Martin [1], Tim Draegen > [2] and John Levine [3]? AFAICS these comments/suggestions have not > yet been incorporated in a new draft version -03, except maybe part of > [3]. Thanks for bringing this up. I should have clarified that any contributions already made to the list are also in the queue for evaluation. It never hurts to reiterate important items, though, so thanks for the reminder. - Trent > > /rolf > > [1] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dmarc/current/msg00683.html > [2] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dmarc/current/msg00645.html > [3] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dmarc/current/msg00584.html > -- J. Trent Adams Profile: http://www.mediaslate.org/jtrentadams/ LinkedIN: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jtrentadams Twitter: http://twitter.com/jtrentadams From nobody Wed Mar 26 11:07:06 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A331A036C for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 11:07:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oUZkWo6dnPPE for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 11:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22d.google.com (mail-wi0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4081A0316 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 11:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id f8so4966854wiw.0 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 11:06:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5hPnkBTTr9f7zwB7V0s3KJDTaoyDpm3htOHr5EzIyyk=; b=Ef3mmcfdb0xUwjhNM7bowPCKHZJXiwD/Fid6bNY0bEHDtiIr1Ad02vhluAlQkrq4le FCotiYFI7r4SJbTzAoinpGE7JiauzWFkq5N63XwyGeb+y2ReOvgE1UncQL1sbGFRANTY Xf5rTSM6s+v6dTp16Doog1rPE9uXnZdizlSQzCFlkui3mVfz+SBq+kh7BsVgRUnAIBav Dp0sYaUuys02k6MaAEE7qCs6EqQzFCwpPIxYg6VWWAlW4lxMwM7NnRNi4RQZYEgaxGdv v8BPsNL19/HUE3mKxvrrqeXnpimXHN8EV2K5JIQXbvFkO8HsT5jg/zRDa8lQzE2pHM7V oMuw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.87.164 with SMTP id az4mr33627967wib.2.1395857219609; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 11:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.207.242 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 11:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 11:06:59 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: "dmarc@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0444eb5bbb6a9e04f58655f4 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/uim_-_U5GLy1Ay51XKNutpxtSDM Subject: [dmarc-ietf] Base document update posted X-BeenThere: dmarc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Compliance \(DMARC\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:07:04 -0000 --f46d0444eb5bbb6a9e04f58655f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Colleagues, I have posted an update to the base DMARC draft, which can be viewed here: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base-03 We plan to submit this for publication as an Informational RFC in the very near future. If there are any proposals for changes to the document that have community support but were missed in this update, please let us know as soon as possible. -MSK --f46d0444eb5bbb6a9e04f58655f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Colleagues,

I have posted an u= pdate to the base DMARC draft, which can be viewed here:

http://tools.ietf= .org/html/draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base-03

We plan to submit this for publication as an Informational RFC in the very near future.=A0 If there are any proposals for changes to the document=20 that have community support but were missed in this update, please let=20 us know as soon as possible.

-MSK
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