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Hi Behcet,


2011/2/19, Behcet Sarikaya <behcetsarikaya@yahoo.com>:
> Hi Dapeng,
>
>
>
>>
>> Hello Julien,
>>
>> Thanks for the information. But my question is: since the  charter is
>> extended to "work on operational considerations on setting up  Mobile
>> IPv6 networks so that traffic is distributed in an optimal way".  Does
>> it mean that the extended charter include  problem/gap/scenario
>> analysis of distributing the mobility anchor  (DMM)?
>>
>> I remember it seem that people agreed to do the analysis work of  DMM
>> as the first step in Beijing meeting?
>
> My understanding is that the new informational document will be inline with
> Julien's presentation he had in Beijing mext additional session we had on
> dmm
> and explain how MIPv6 as defined currently can be used to distribute the
> traffic
> in an optimal way.
>
> I suggest that you take the lead in this effort.

==>

I think DMM barbof contributors have already done some work in this
area. So if people agree I would like to organize writing this draft.
Anyone who is interested
to join the design team could reply this mail to let me know. thanks.

Best regards,
Dapeng Liu

> Regards,
>
> Behcet
>
>
>
>
>

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Hi Dapeng,
I'd like to contribute to this work.

Elena


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> work
>
> Hi Behcet,
>
>
> 2011/2/19, Behcet Sarikaya <behcetsarikaya@yahoo.com>:
> > Hi Dapeng,
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Hello Julien,
> >>
> >> Thanks for the information. But my question is: since the  charter is
> >> extended to "work on operational considerations on setting up  Mobile
> >> IPv6 networks so that traffic is distributed in an optimal way".  Does
> >> it mean that the extended charter include  problem/gap/scenario
> >> analysis of distributing the mobility anchor  (DMM)?
> >>
> >> I remember it seem that people agreed to do the analysis work of  DMM
> >> as the first step in Beijing meeting?
> >
> > My understanding is that the new informational document will be inline
> with
> > Julien's presentation he had in Beijing mext additional session we had
> on
> > dmm
> > and explain how MIPv6 as defined currently can be used to distribute th=
e
> > traffic
> > in an optimal way.
> >
> > I suggest that you take the lead in this effort.
>
> =3D=3D>
>
> I think DMM barbof contributors have already done some work in this
> area. So if people agree I would like to organize writing this draft.
> Anyone who is interested
> to join the design team could reply this mail to let me know. thanks.
>
> Best regards,
> Dapeng Liu
>
> > Regards,
> >
> > Behcet
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Hi Dapeng,

I'm also interesting in working on this item. Also agree, and happy, =
that you lead the work.

Pierrick
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> Hi Dapeng,
> I'd like to contribute to this work.
>=20
> Elena
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> > dapeng
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> > To: Behcet Sarikaya
> > Cc: dmm@ietf.org; mext@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [dmm] [MEXT] suggest charter item for distributed =
mobility
> > work
> >
> > Hi Behcet,
> >
> >
> > 2011/2/19, Behcet Sarikaya <behcetsarikaya@yahoo.com>:
> > > Hi Dapeng,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Hello Julien,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the information. But my question is: since the  =
charter is
> > >> extended to "work on operational considerations on setting up  =
Mobile
> > >> IPv6 networks so that traffic is distributed in an optimal way".
> Does
> > >> it mean that the extended charter include  problem/gap/scenario
> > >> analysis of distributing the mobility anchor  (DMM)?
> > >>
> > >> I remember it seem that people agreed to do the analysis work of  =
DMM
> > >> as the first step in Beijing meeting?
> > >
> > > My understanding is that the new informational document will be =
inline
> > with
> > > Julien's presentation he had in Beijing mext additional session we =
had
> > on
> > > dmm
> > > and explain how MIPv6 as defined currently can be used to =
distribute
> the
> > > traffic
> > > in an optimal way.
> > >
> > > I suggest that you take the lead in this effort.
> >
> > =3D=3D>
> >
> > I think DMM barbof contributors have already done some work in this
> > area. So if people agree I would like to organize writing this =
draft.
> > Anyone who is interested
> > to join the design team could reply this mail to let me know. =
thanks.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Dapeng Liu
> >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Behcet
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Dapeng,
I also like to contribute.
H Anthony Chan

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Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:36 AM
To: elena.demaria@telecomitalia.it; maxpassion@gmail.com; =
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Subject: Re: [dmm] [MEXT] suggest charter item for distributed mobility =
work

Hi Dapeng,

I'm also interesting in working on this item. Also agree, and happy, =
that
you lead the work.

Pierrick
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> De=A0: dmm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] De la part =
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> Demaria Elena
> Envoy=E9=A0: jeudi 3 mars 2011 11:51
> =C0=A0: 'liu dapeng'; 'Behcet Sarikaya'
> Cc=A0: 'dmm@ietf.org'; 'mext@ietf.org'
> Objet=A0: Re: [dmm] [MEXT] suggest charter item for distributed =
mobility
> work
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> Hi Dapeng,
> I'd like to contribute to this work.
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> Elena
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dmm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf =
Of
> liu
> > dapeng
> > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:17 AM
> > To: Behcet Sarikaya
> > Cc: dmm@ietf.org; mext@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [dmm] [MEXT] suggest charter item for distributed =
mobility
> > work
> >
> > Hi Behcet,
> >
> >
> > 2011/2/19, Behcet Sarikaya <behcetsarikaya@yahoo.com>:
> > > Hi Dapeng,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Hello Julien,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the information. But my question is: since the  =
charter is
> > >> extended to "work on operational considerations on setting up  =
Mobile
> > >> IPv6 networks so that traffic is distributed in an optimal way".
> Does
> > >> it mean that the extended charter include  problem/gap/scenario
> > >> analysis of distributing the mobility anchor  (DMM)?
> > >>
> > >> I remember it seem that people agreed to do the analysis work of  =
DMM
> > >> as the first step in Beijing meeting?
> > >
> > > My understanding is that the new informational document will be =
inline
> > with
> > > Julien's presentation he had in Beijing mext additional session we =
had
> > on
> > > dmm
> > > and explain how MIPv6 as defined currently can be used to =
distribute
> the
> > > traffic
> > > in an optimal way.
> > >
> > > I suggest that you take the lead in this effort.
> >
> > =3D=3D>
> >
> > I think DMM barbof contributors have already done some work in this
> > area. So if people agree I would like to organize writing this =
draft.
> > Anyone who is interested
> > to join the design team could reply this mail to let me know. =
thanks.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Dapeng Liu
> >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Behcet
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Dapeng,

I would also like to join the work for contribution.

Many thanks,

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Dapeng,
I also like to contribute.
H Anthony Chan

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Hi Dapeng,

I'm also interesting in working on this item. Also agree, and happy, that
you lead the work.

Pierrick
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> Objet : Re: [dmm] [MEXT] suggest charter item for distributed mobility
> work
>
> Hi Dapeng,
> I'd like to contribute to this work.
>
> Elena
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Subject: Re: [dmm] [MEXT] suggest charter item for distributed mobility
> > work
> >
> > Hi Behcet,
> >
> >
> > 2011/2/19, Behcet Sarikaya <behcetsarikaya@yahoo.com>:
> > > Hi Dapeng,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Hello Julien,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the information. But my question is: since the  charter is
> > >> extended to "work on operational considerations on setting up  Mobile
> > >> IPv6 networks so that traffic is distributed in an optimal way".
> Does
> > >> it mean that the extended charter include  problem/gap/scenario
> > >> analysis of distributing the mobility anchor  (DMM)?
> > >>
> > >> I remember it seem that people agreed to do the analysis work of  DMM
> > >> as the first step in Beijing meeting?
> > >
> > > My understanding is that the new informational document will be inline
> > with
> > > Julien's presentation he had in Beijing mext additional session we had
> > on
> > > dmm
> > > and explain how MIPv6 as defined currently can be used to distribute
> the
> > > traffic
> > > in an optimal way.
> > >
> > > I suggest that you take the lead in this effort.
> >
> > ==>
> >
> > I think DMM barbof contributors have already done some work in this
> > area. So if people agree I would like to organize writing this draft.
> > Anyone who is interested
> > to join the design team could reply this mail to let me know. thanks.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Dapeng Liu
> >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Behcet
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Hello folks,

I'd also like to be involved with the effort.

I have two questions:

- Does route optimization have a role to play?
   It certainly can serve the purpose of distributing
   traffic optimally...

- What about a sort of "hierarchical PMIP"?

Regards,
Charlie P.



On 3/2/2011 7:17 PM, liu dapeng wrote:
> Hi Behcet,
>
>
> 2011/2/19, Behcet Sarikaya<behcetsarikaya@yahoo.com>:
>> Hi Dapeng,
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hello Julien,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the information. But my question is: since the  charter is
>>> extended to "work on operational considerations on setting up  Mobile
>>> IPv6 networks so that traffic is distributed in an optimal way".  Does
>>> it mean that the extended charter include  problem/gap/scenario
>>> analysis of distributing the mobility anchor  (DMM)?
>>>
>>> I remember it seem that people agreed to do the analysis work of  DMM
>>> as the first step in Beijing meeting?
>>
>> My understanding is that the new informational document will be inline with
>> Julien's presentation he had in Beijing mext additional session we had on
>> dmm
>> and explain how MIPv6 as defined currently can be used to distribute the
>> traffic
>> in an optimal way.
>>
>> I suggest that you take the lead in this effort.
>
> ==>
>
> I think DMM barbof contributors have already done some work in this
> area. So if people agree I would like to organize writing this draft.
> Anyone who is interested
> to join the design team could reply this mail to let me know. thanks.
>
> Best regards,
> Dapeng Liu
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Behcet
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Hi folks,

(apologies for the cross-posting)

We have just submitted a draft related to DMM. The draft describes a
possible way of achieving a distributed mobility behavior with Client
Mobile IP, based on Mobile IPv6 and the use of Cryptographic Generated
Addresses.

The draft is already on the I-D repository:

http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-bernardos-mext-dmm-cmip-00.txt

Comments, as usual, are welcome!

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Hi, Carlos,

2011/3/7 Carlos Jes=FAs Bernardos Cano <cjbc@it.uc3m.es>:
>
> We have just submitted a draft related to DMM. The draft describes a
> possible way of achieving a distributed mobility behavior with Client
> Mobile IP, based on Mobile IPv6 and the use of Cryptographic Generated
> Addresses.
>
> The draft is already on the I-D repository:
>
> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-bernardos-mext-dmm-cmip-00.txt

I read through your draft, and I have a couple of questions.

First, it seems that you require a BU sent to the DAR right after
SLAAC.  Is this the case?  Why do we need such a BU?

Second, how is the PHKT protected when it transits from the
DAR to the MN?  Did you consider doing a simple Diffie-Hellman
exchange to derive a PHKT for later use by the MN?  That would
neatly avoid having to send the PHKT in the clear or to protect
it with some sort of encryption wrapper.

Third, how do you expect the CGA configuration to interact with
the access network authentication that will be performed before
the MN is allowed to attach to the first DAR?  Do you see any
opportunities for synergy here, if say, EAP was used to authenticate
and derive an MSK?

-Pete

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Hi Marcelo,

Thanks a lot for the clarification.

Best regards,
Dapeng Liu

2011/3/5, marcelo bagnulo braun <marcelo@it.uc3m.es>:
> Just to clarify:
> Design teams are defined in RFC 2418 as:
>
> "6.5. Design teams
>
>     It is often useful, and perhaps inevitable, for a sub-group of a
>     working group to develop a proposal to solve a particular problem.
>     Such a sub-group is called a design team.  In order for a design team
>     to remain small and agile, it is acceptable to have closed membership
>     and private meetings.  Design teams may range from an informal chat
>     between people in a hallway to a formal set of expert volunteers that
>     the WG chair or AD appoints to attack a controversial problem.  The
>     output of a design team is always subject to approval, rejection or
>     modification by the WG as a whole."
>
>
> This design team that Dapeng is forming falls AFAIK into the first
> category i.e. an informal chat between people and it has NOT been
> appointed by the chairs.
> As such, they can form any design team that they feel like, there is
> absolutely no problem with that.
>
> Of course, as any design team, the output needs to be presented to the
> WG and it is subject to the WG acceptance, as any other piece of work.
>
> I hope this clarifies this.
>
> Regards, marcelo
>
>
> El 05/03/11 0:16, Behcet Sarikaya escribi=F3:
>> Folks, I had just expressed my personal opinion.
>>
>> You should probably wait for the chairs announcement before forming a
>> design
>> team.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Behcet
>>> Dapeng,
>>>
>>> I would also like to join the work for contribution.
>>>
>>> Many  thanks,
>>>
>>> *************************
>>> Seok Joo Koh
>>> sjkoh@knu.ac.kr
>>> http://protocol.knu.ac.kr/
>>>
>>>
>>> -----  Original Message -----
>>> From: "Anthony Chan"<anthonychan@huawei.com>
>>> To:<pierrick.seite@orange-ftgroup.com>;<elena.demaria@telecomitalia.it>=
;
>>> <maxpassion@gmail.com>;
>>>
>>> <sarikaya@ieee.org>
>>> Cc:<dmm@ietf.org>;<mext@ietf.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, March 04,  2011 2:53 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [dmm] [MEXT] suggest charter item for distributed  mobilit=
y
>>> work
>>>
>>>
>>> Dapeng,
>>> I also like to contribute.
>>> H Anthony  Chan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dmm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
>>> pierrick.seite@orange-ftgroup.com
>>> Sent:  Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:36 AM
>>> To: elena.demaria@telecomitalia.it; maxpassion@gmail.com;
>>> sarikaya@ieee.org
>>> Cc: dmm@ietf.org; mext@ietf.org
>>> Subject: Re: [dmm] [MEXT]  suggest charter item for distributed mobilit=
y
>>> work
>>>
>>> Hi Dapeng,
>>>
>>> I'm  also interesting in working on this item. Also agree, and happy,
>>> that
>>> you  lead the work.
>>>
>>> Pierrick
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : dmm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] De la part  de
>>>> Demaria Elena
>>>> Envoy=E9 : jeudi 3 mars 2011 11:51
>>>> =C0 :  'liu dapeng'; 'Behcet Sarikaya'
>>>> Cc : 'dmm@ietf.org'; 'mext@ietf.org'
>>>> Objet : Re: [dmm] [MEXT]  suggest charter item for distributed mobilit=
y
>>>> work
>>>>
>>>> Hi  Dapeng,
>>>> I'd like to contribute to this work.
>>>>
>>>>   Elena
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: dmm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf  O=
f
>>>> liu
>>>>> dapeng
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011  4:17 AM
>>>>> To: Behcet Sarikaya
>>>>> Cc: dmm@ietf.org; mext@ietf.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [dmm]  [MEXT] suggest charter item for distributed
>>>>> mobility
>>>>> work
>>>>   >
>>>>> Hi Behcet,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/2/19,  Behcet Sarikaya<behcetsarikaya@yahoo.com>:
>>>>   >  >  Hi Dapeng,
>>>>>>
>>>>>   >
>>>>>>> Hello Julien,
>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the information. But my question is:  since the  charter
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> extended to "work on  operational considerations on setting up
>>>>>>> Mobile
>>>>>>> IPv6  networks so that traffic is distributed in an optimal way".
>>>> Does
>>>>   >  >>  it mean that the extended charter include
>>>> problem/gap/scenario
>>>>>>> analysis of distributing the mobility  anchor  (DMM)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I remember it  seem that people agreed to do the analysis work of
>>>>>>> DMM
>>>>>   >>  as the first step in Beijing meeting?
>>>>>   >  My understanding is that the new informational document will be
>>>>> inline
>>>>> with
>>>>>> Julien's presentation he had in  Beijing mext additional session we
>>>>>> had
>>>>> on
>>>>>>   dmm
>>>>>> and explain how MIPv6 as defined currently can be used to  distribut=
e
>>>> the
>>>>>> traffic
>>>>>> in an optimal  way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suggest that you take the lead in  this effort.
>>>>> =3D=3D>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think  DMM barbof contributors have already done some work in this
>>>>> area.  So if people agree I would like to organize writing this draft=
.
>>>>>   Anyone who is interested
>>>>> to join the design team could reply this  mail to let me know. thanks=
.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>   >  Dapeng Liu
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>   >
>>>>>> Behcet
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>   >
>>>>>>
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Hi Charlie,

My understanding is that the socpe of DMM work item in MEXT should be
limited to no protocol extensions. Let's continue this discussion in
the DT mail list.

Best regards,
Dapeng Liu

2011/3/5, Charles E. Perkins <charliep@computer.org>:
> Hello folks,
>
> I'd also like to be involved with the effort.
>
> I have two questions:
>
> - Does route optimization have a role to play?
>    It certainly can serve the purpose of distributing
>    traffic optimally...

> - What about a sort of "hierarchical PMIP"?
>
> Regards,
> Charlie P.
>
>
>
> On 3/2/2011 7:17 PM, liu dapeng wrote:
>> Hi Behcet,
>>
>>
>> 2011/2/19, Behcet Sarikaya<behcetsarikaya@yahoo.com>:
>>> Hi Dapeng,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Julien,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the information. But my question is: since the  charter is
>>>> extended to "work on operational considerations on setting up  Mobile
>>>> IPv6 networks so that traffic is distributed in an optimal way".  Does
>>>> it mean that the extended charter include  problem/gap/scenario
>>>> analysis of distributing the mobility anchor  (DMM)?
>>>>
>>>> I remember it seem that people agreed to do the analysis work of  DMM
>>>> as the first step in Beijing meeting?
>>>
>>> My understanding is that the new informational document will be inline
>>> with
>>> Julien's presentation he had in Beijing mext additional session we had on
>>> dmm
>>> and explain how MIPv6 as defined currently can be used to distribute the
>>> traffic
>>> in an optimal way.
>>>
>>> I suggest that you take the lead in this effort.
>>
>> ==>
>>
>> I think DMM barbof contributors have already done some work in this
>> area. So if people agree I would like to organize writing this draft.
>> Anyone who is interested
>> to join the design team could reply this mail to let me know. thanks.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Dapeng Liu
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Behcet
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Hi Pete,

Thanks for the feedback

On Mon, 2011-03-07 at 16:31 -0600, Pete McCann wrote:
> Hi, Carlos,
>=20
> 2011/3/7 Carlos Jes=FAs Bernardos Cano <cjbc@it.uc3m.es>:
> >
> > We have just submitted a draft related to DMM. The draft describes a
> > possible way of achieving a distributed mobility behavior with Client
> > Mobile IP, based on Mobile IPv6 and the use of Cryptographic Generated
> > Addresses.
> >
> > The draft is already on the I-D repository:
> >
> > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-bernardos-mext-dmm-cmip-00.txt
>=20
> I read through your draft, and I have a couple of questions.
>=20
> First, it seems that you require a BU sent to the DAR right after
> SLAAC.  Is this the case?  Why do we need such a BU?

The BU is only sent if the MN wants to keep the reachability and session
continuity of an IPv6 address that was configured (and therefore is
anchored) at a previous DAR. In this case, the BU is sent to that
previous DAR, using as CoA the IPv6 address that has just configured
from the current DAR.

>=20
> Second, how is the PHKT protected when it transits from the
> DAR to the MN?  Did you consider doing a simple Diffie-Hellman
> exchange to derive a PHKT for later use by the MN?  That would
> neatly avoid having to send the PHKT in the clear or to protect
> it with some sort of encryption wrapper.

We rely on the mechanisms described in
draft-laganier-mext-cga-01/RFC4866 for that (I don't remember the
details). I guess using D-H could also be a good option to derive the
token.

>=20
> Third, how do you expect the CGA configuration to interact with
> the access network authentication that will be performed before
> the MN is allowed to attach to the first DAR?  Do you see any
> opportunities for synergy here, if say, EAP was used to authenticate
> and derive an MSK?

We haven't gone to that level of detail yet, to be honest. Interactions
with access network authentication and BU authorization issues are
definitely things that need to be further analyzed.

Thanks!

Carlos

>=20
> -Pete

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Please note that the problem statement had been revised in the 01 version:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chan-distributed-mobility-ps-01
Problem statement for distributed and dynamic mobility management

The changes in this version are in the attempts to spell out the problem
statement more clearly. If further clarifications are needed in the problem
statement, please let us know. 

H Anthony Chan