From nobody Sat Nov 1 09:36:10 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6981A899A for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2014 09:36:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z5Es-CrYo2eW for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2014 09:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAE5F1A8994 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2014 09:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.49] (88.247.135.202.static.ttnet.com.tr [88.247.135.202]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mreueus003) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MANcS-1XwBAc1kQk-00BZdN; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 17:36:06 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8AAEA27E-EF0A-4321-AA42-DBAF26335D0A" From: Alper Yegin X-Priority: 3 X-Mail-Calendar-Part: Yes Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2014 18:36:02 +0200 Message-Id: References: <1992525198.2757951414859176259.JavaMail.nobody@rln9rmd101.webex.com> To: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:FwdAc+GSN1p4ayK8WM82tEqZa+4KXnAHjsNd0vL+czt JbKjqC6OzOHvIApGgHIGntQT9NbpiObhp5hGuHZ1Qo7x222Lii iwSXI1VwkFbhxmwS3H+07x1S6jdU2CciYxLDpOtNFZPoPEl5xi 9gyi8YiDFTjEWUDy0P7AXfZbKYl+YSky0TraHUjjKNfo7tRWKs 3Db6Hd7WcEAwNT+FjDZAIEWe6aPaR2kFY3hNlbMcen5+nh23cf A3mwyTnES5MaEXvUCGkMERRUB7kRRTsEZFIfO1PYudPUaRB8eG KRh9VHi7yuuj8LrDokeIMP0MM2CFJn5/nre4trvhzMWOMJOJpV XyMO89NIJ3Q5J3O87flaRKV69B69VtnM70lv39qMb5BqTqn0xC p50raxhLb1vvQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmm/H6mMGiyVzbU3drgkLrPg7fDDXSs Subject: [DMM] Fwd: Invitation to WebEx meeting: IETF DMM Mobility Exposure & Selection WT call#2 X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 16:36:10 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_8AAEA27E-EF0A-4321-AA42-DBAF26335D0A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Second conference call for Mobility Exposure & Selection WT is on Nov = 6th, 4:30-6:00pm (GMT+02). Webex details are below. In this call, we'll discuss the following item (among the ones we = determined on the first call): - Describe how IP address type is communicated between the apps and IP = stack on the MN. Alper Begin forwarded message: > From: Alper Yegin via Cisco WebEx > Subject: Invitation to WebEx meeting: IETF DMM Mobility Exposure & = Selection WT call#2 > Date: November 1, 2014 6:26:16 PM GMT+02:00 > To: alper.yegin@yegin.org > Reply-To: alper_yegin@hotmail.com >=20 >=20 > Hi, > =09 > =20 > Alper Yegin is inviting you to this WebEx meeting: > =09 > IETF DMM Mobility Exposure & Selection WT call#2=20 > Thu, Nov 6, 4:30 pm | 1 hr 30 min > Istanbul (Eastern Europe Time, GMT+02:00) > Host: Alper Yegin > =09 > Join > =09 > =20 > Add the attached iCalendar (.ics) file to your calendar. > =09 > Agenda >=20 > This meeting does not have an agenda. > =09 > Access Information >=20 > Where: WebEx Online > Meeting number: 239 022 558 > Password: This meeting does not require a password. > =09 > Audio Connection >=20 > +44-203-478-5289 UK Domestic Toll > Access code: 239 022 558 > Can't access your meeting? Get help. > Delivering the power of collaboration > Cisco WebEx Team >=20 > IMPORTANT NOTICE: This WebEx service includes a feature that allows = audio and any documents and other materials exchanged or viewed during = the meeting to be recorded. By joining this meeting, you automatically = consent to such recordings. If you do not consent to the recording, = discuss your concerns with the meeting host prior to the start of the = recording or do not join the meeting. Please note that any such = recordings may be subject to discovery in the event of litigation. >=20 > =A92014 Cisco and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. > MT-A-001 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_8AAEA27E-EF0A-4321-AA42-DBAF26335D0A Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_31166806-4434-402A-B6B7-57520BDB2E2E" --Apple-Mail=_31166806-4434-402A-B6B7-57520BDB2E2E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 - = Describe how IP address type is communicated between the apps and IP stack on the = MN.

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From: Alper Yegin via = Cisco WebEx <admin@webex.com>
Subject: = Invitation to WebEx meeting: IETF DMM Mobility = Exposure & Selection WT call#2
Date: November 1, 2014 = 6:26:16 PM GMT+02:00

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Alper Yegin is inviting you to this WebEx meeting:
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IETF DMM Mobility Exposure & Selection WT = call#2
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Agenda

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--Apple-Mail=_31166806-4434-402A-B6B7-57520BDB2E2E-- --Apple-Mail=_8AAEA27E-EF0A-4321-AA42-DBAF26335D0A-- From nobody Sun Nov 2 12:40:13 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F0F1A0372 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2014 12:40:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.485 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.485 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L0Sx7JRbUAXH for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2014 12:40:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu (mailer1.neclab.eu [195.37.70.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CF471A036B for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2014 12:40:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FCA1087AC for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2014 21:40:07 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Amavisd on Debian GNU/Linux (netlab.nec.de) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlas-a.office.hd [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pz-NsE61_U1h for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2014 21:40:07 +0100 (CET) X-ENC: Last-Hop-TLS-encrypted X-ENC: Last-Hop-TLS-encrypted Received: from ENCELADUS.office.hd (enceladus.office.hd [192.168.24.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 470AA1080C3 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2014 21:40:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from PALLENE.office.hd ([169.254.1.63]) by ENCELADUS.office.hd ([192.168.24.52]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Sun, 2 Nov 2014 21:40:04 +0100 From: Marco Liebsch To: "dmm@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [FPSM] Work Item call#2 agenda and WebEx info Thread-Index: Ac/23HQYJyhtx1p4ToS3agrDz+0eaw== Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 20:40:04 +0000 Message-ID: <69756203DDDDE64E987BC4F70B71A26D91AF7297@PALLENE.office.hd> Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.7.0.210] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_69756203DDDDE64E987BC4F70B71A26D91AF7297PALLENEofficehd_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmm/e7HdzQWSBzycF1I_tdM7F5NYCYY Subject: [DMM] [FPSM] Work Item call#2 agenda and WebEx info X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 20:40:12 -0000 --_000_69756203DDDDE64E987BC4F70B71A26D91AF7297PALLENEofficehd_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please find below the WebEx details for the 2nd work item call on Forwardin= g Path and Signaling Management. Thanks to Sri for providing the WebEx communications platform. The call is scheduled on Monday, 3rd Nov 2014 from 16:00 CET / 07:00am PST.= Duration is 90 min. Below are the proposed items for the call's agenda. Please let me know if y= ou have additional agenda items in mind which we should discuss during this call. --- Draft agenda FPSM WI call#2 --- - Tools: platform for slides/document sharing, WebEx - Discussion of categories and associated use cases o Tunnel Management o Routing Policy Management o IP Route Management o Traffic Steering Policies o QoS Policies o Queries o Notifications - Need for session awareness at DPA/DPN? -------- Topic: DMM - CP/DP Interface Meeting #2 Date: Monday, November 3, 2014 Time: 7:00 am, Pacific Standard Time (San Francisco, GMT-08:00) Meeting Number: 207 634 298 Password: dmm ------------------------------------------------------- To join the meeting online(Now from mobile devices!) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://cisco.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?MTID=3Dm090408bb558e6f1f6= 8e9cf58643b15bd 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: dmm 4. Click "Join". 5. If the meeting includes a teleconference, follow the instructions that a= ppear on your screen. ------------------------------------------------------- To join the audio conference only ------------------------------------------------------- To receive a call back, provide your phone number when you join the meeting= , or call the number below and enter the access code. Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1-408-525-6800 Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1-866-432-9903 Having trouble dialing in? Try these backup numbers: Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1-866-432-9903 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1-408-525-6800 Access code:207 634 298 Global call-in numbers: https://cisco.webex.com/ciscosales/globalcallin.php= ?serviceType=3DMC&ED=3D290960577&tollFree=3D1 Toll-free dialing restrictions: http://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restricti= ons.pdf --_000_69756203DDDDE64E987BC4F70B71A26D91AF7297PALLENEofficehd_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Please find below the WebEx details for the 2nd= work item call on Forwarding Path and Signaling Management.

Thanks to Sri for providing the WebEx communications= platform.

The call is scheduled on Monday, 3rd Nov = 2014 from 16:00 CET / 07:00am PST. Duration is 90 min.

 

Below are the proposed items for the call’s ag= enda. Please let me know if you have additional
agenda items in mind which we should discuss during this call.

 

--- Draft agenda FPSM WI call#2 ---

 

-     &= nbsp;    Tools: platform for slides/document sharing, WebEx<= o:p>

-     &= nbsp;    Discussion of categories and associated use cases

o   Tunnel Management

o   Routing Policy Management

o   IP Route Management

o   Traffic Steering Policies

o   QoS Policies

o   Queries

o   Notifications

-     &= nbsp;    Need for session awareness at DPA/DPN?

 

 

 

 

 

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Topic: DMM -= CP/DP Interface Meeting #2 
Date: Monday, November 3, 2014 
Time: 7:00 am, Pacific Standard Time (San = Francisco, GMT-08:00) 
Meeting Number: 207 634 298  Password: dmm 

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3. If a password is required, enter the me= eting password: dmm 
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--_000_69756203DDDDE64E987BC4F70B71A26D91AF7297PALLENEofficehd_-- From nobody Mon Nov 3 09:51:58 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AA01A1BE4; Mon, 3 Nov 2014 09:51:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RcYffD8XcWQd; Mon, 3 Nov 2014 09:51:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79D0C1A6F38; Mon, 3 Nov 2014 09:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.49] (88.247.135.202.static.ttnet.com.tr [88.247.135.202]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mreueus002) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Md5N6-1XT8RL0lhS-00IDGh; Mon, 03 Nov 2014 18:51:13 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B1E229C3-838E-4B49-A944-DEE31057DE29" From: Alper Yegin In-Reply-To: <01FE63842C181246BBE4CF183BD159B449036DFF@nkgeml504-mbx.china.huawei.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 19:50:58 +0200 Message-Id: <383C8250-658B-47B9-B836-052ADFD82E79@yegin.org> References: <20141021160652.24101.60334.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <4BBD7952-84F7-40F9-9034-8DD7A1F2A05C@nominum.com> <2D09D61DDFA73D4C884805CC7865E61130EA59FC@GAALPA1MSGUSRBF.ITServices.sbc.com> <01FE63842C181246BBE4CF183BD159B4490350AD@nkgeml504-mbx.china.huawei.com> <31246_1413972312_54478158_31246_662_1_81C77F07008CA24F9783A98CFD706F71142BD145@PEXCVZYM12.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <01FE63842C181246BBE4CF183BD159B449036DFF@nkgeml504-mbx.china.huawei.com> To: Xueli X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:K1TwgwzCbgYVWv5LaoUJnAQftBjFakIwlRDz90gzyml tmKAF28Ka1SVuxm+QG5q0TtZU7m3qXjc+Jyz3Ya+OEupqGat6U iLf6CRc/in7KYS6jMTUALLo+zfrpzjxQJN+znncq0TLVcqiV1s 7txoLYJEFH781wcCgcSpZ9XRHAsX4KAEmHtWirVzU1GDhUc8YV vvSCUxAJmgx2tdTxpgZWp6+1byK+UQOqMnTxpeTogFqzYyfQPy 9VmZlmJzHfhwOsegGCndL99scHnHFvQr1ZYPEhXR4TaSe4YeoM NhYF0HNR+heWORvo1QtF2hFqwGP03fZTo9i7tkrldx95WX+I62 94egu0pt/DAoeSQ/ibtV3Rurs24E6p/rT6UrkW1sVK5pJsH1Nd 5wbRPf39C1x0A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmm/NsejcFtVMG9VCAwS8U_R0BlUhpE Cc: "mif@ietf.org" , Ted Lemon , "dmm@ietf.org" , HOMENET Working Group , "STARK, BARBARA H" Subject: Re: [DMM] =?windows-1252?q?=5Bmif=5D_=3D=3FWindows-1252=3FQ=3FRE=3A?= =?windows-1252?q?=5F=5Bhomenet=5D=5FFwd=3A=5FNew=5FLiaison=5FStatement=2C?= =?windows-1252?q?_=5F=22Broadband=5FFor=3F=3D_um_Work_on_=93Hybrid_Access?= =?windows-1252?q?_for_Broadband_Networks=94_=28WT-348=29=22?= X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2014 17:51:56 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_B1E229C3-838E-4B49-A944-DEE31057DE29 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hello Li, Few comments on the lhwxz-hybrid-access draft: - Even tough the driving use case involves heterogeneous access = networks, the design can be used with homogeneous access networks as = well. It'd be good to acknowledge that, so that the readers don't assume = the applicability is limited to heterogeneous deployments only. - "Hosts in the customer site may connect to the Internet through the = CPE, the 3G/4G network, or both. " You mean, "CPE may be connected to the Internet through DSL, 3G/4G, or = both" - Figure 4 seems to refer to a case where the host is exposed to two = different prefixes. Is this in scope for BBF? I though they wanted to = limit the use case to the one that hides the "duality" from the host. = I.e., host has single prefix/IP address. - "Additionally, the available paths may have different characteristics = in terms of bandwidth, delay, MTU, etc. "cost" as well. Alper On Oct 28, 2014, at 5:59 AM, Xueli wrote: > Hello Pierrick > =20 > First of all, thanks a lot for agree with the big picture depicture = and architecture.. > I am fine to split the architecture considerations and solution design = in two different documents. > And I updated the architecture draft (No specific solution there) in = the new version, I hope it makes sense for you. > = http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lhwxz-hybrid-access-network-arch= itecture-01.txt > Do you mind to share more about the solution about DMM proposal. > Which exact issues it is really solving? > =20 > Best Regards > Li > =20 > From: pierrick.seite@orange.com [mailto:pierrick.seite@orange.com]=20 > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:05 PM > To: Xueli; Ted Lemon; STARK, BARBARA H > Cc: HOMENET Working Group; mif@ietf.org; dmm@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [homenet] Fwd: New Liaison Statement, "Broadband Forum = Work on =93Hybrid Access for Broadband Networks=94 (WT-348)" > =20 > Hi Li, > =20 > Architecture considerations and solution design are two different = things, which should not be addressed in the same I-D. People may agree = with the big picture depicture and architecture but not agree with going = on extensions to the GRE protocol to address the issue. BTW, I think = that going for extensions to GRE header to address the hybrid access = use-case is not the right way. Actually, IETF solutions already exist = (RFC 4908 ) and, moreover, there is ongoing effort in DMM to update RFC = 4908 to meet hybrid access requirements. =20 > =20 > BR, > Pierrick =20 > =20 > De : Xueli [mailto:xueli@huawei.com]=20 > Envoy=E9 : mercredi 22 octobre 2014 11:48 > =C0 : Ted Lemon; STARK, BARBARA H > Cc : HOMENET Working Group; mif@ietf.org > Objet : RE: [homenet] Fwd: New Liaison Statement, "Broadband Forum = Work on =93Hybrid Access for Broadband Networks=94 (WT-348)" > =20 > Hello > =20 > Thanks Barbara to send this liaison out. > Hybrid Access network is that Residential gateway (RG, or CPE) is = extended with more than two access lines > (e.g. DSL + LTE) in order to provide higher bandwidth for the = customers. The scenario and architecture are shown as follows > > =20 > Right now, we have two individual drafts, one for architecture and = requirements, and the other one is for an optional solution. > The draft = (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lhwxz-hybrid-access-network-architecture= -00 ; ) proposes the architecture and gap analysis. > The solution draft proposes one option for the solutions, = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-heileyli-gre-notifications-00 =20 > We did not combine them as one draft, because we believe there may be = other candidates, and we would like to have further discussions in the = related groups and IETF. > We used to present it in Homenet in Toronto. > =20 > Now the authors have invited Orange to join this architecture work. We = will send out the new version of these drafts soon. > We are glad to invite the experts for comments. > =20 > Best Regards > Li Xue on the co-authors behalf > =20 > =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: homenet [mailto:homenet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ted Lemon > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 3:05 AM > To: STARK, BARBARA H > Cc: HOMENET Working Group > Subject: Re: [homenet] Fwd: New Liaison Statement, "Broadband Forum = Work on =93Hybrid Access for Broadband Networks=94 (WT-348)" > =20 > On Oct 21, 2014, at 2:55 PM, STARK, BARBARA H wrote: > > FYI. I made sure they were aware of IETF mif and homenet activities = in this area. I intend to try to prevent having to track efforts that = try to do the same thing in two different ways. But some of the BBF = effort may be focused on what can be done around "bonding" of multiple = interfaces that are under the control of a single service provider. I = don't see this in mif or homenet. > =20 > Thanks. I couldn't really tell what was being proposed from the = Liaison statement, so this information is helpful. > =20 > _______________________________________________ > homenet mailing list > homenet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet > = __________________________________________________________________________= _______________________________________________ > =20 > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations = confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez = recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les = messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, = deforme ou falsifie. Merci. > =20 > This message and its attachments may contain confidential or = privileged information that may be protected by law; > they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. > If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and = delete this message and its attachments. > As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have = been modified, changed or falsified. > Thank you. > _______________________________________________ > mif mailing list > mif@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mif --Apple-Mail=_B1E229C3-838E-4B49-A944-DEE31057DE29 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Hello Li,

Few comments on the = lhwxz-hybrid-access draft:

- Even tough the = driving use case involves heterogeneous access networks, the design can = be used with homogeneous access networks as well. It'd be good to = acknowledge that, so that the readers don't assume the applicability is = limited to heterogeneous deployments = only.

-  "Hosts in the = customer site may connect to the Internet through the CPE, the 3G/4G network, or = both. "

You mean, "CPE may be = connected to the Internet through DSL, 3G/4G, or = both"

- Figure 4 seems to refer to a case where = the host is exposed to two different prefixes. Is this in scope for BBF? = I though they wanted to limit the use case to the one that hides the = "duality" from the host. I.e., host has single prefix/IP = address.

- "Additionally, the = available paths may have different characteristics in terms of bandwidth, delay, MTU, = etc.

"cost" as = well.

Alper




On Oct 28, 2014, at 5:59 AM, Xueli = wrote:

Hello = Pierrick
 
First of all, = thanks a lot for agree with the big picture depicture and = architecture..
I am fine to split the architecture considerations = and solution design in two different = documents.
And I updated the architecture draft (No specific = solution there) in the new version, I hope it makes sense for = you.
Do you mind to = share more about the solution about DMM = proposal.
Which exact issues it is really = solving?
 
Best = Regards
Li
 pierrick.seite@orange.com [mailto:pierrick.seite@orange= .com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 = 6:05 PM
To: Xueli; Ted Lemon; STARK, = BARBARA H
Cc: HOMENET Working Group; mif@ietf.org; dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [homenet] Fwd: New = Liaison Statement, "Broadband Forum Work on =93Hybrid Access for = Broadband Networks=94 (WT-348)"
 
Hi Li,
 
Architecture considerations and solution design are = two different things, which should not be addressed in the same I-D. = People may agree with the big picture depicture and architecture but not = agree with going on extensions to the GRE protocol to address the issue. = BTW, I think that going for extensions to GRE header to address the = hybrid access use-case is not the right way. Actually, IETF solutions = already exist (RFC  4908 ) and, moreover, there is ongoing effort = in DMM to update RFC 4908 to meet hybrid access requirements. =  
 
BR,
Pierrick  
 
De : Xueli = [mailto:xueli@huawei.com] 
Envoy=E9 : mercredi 22 octobre 2014 = 11:48
=C0 : Ted Lemon; STARK, BARBARA = H
Cc : HOMENET Working Group; mif@ietf.org
Objet : RE: [homenet] Fwd: New = Liaison Statement, "Broadband Forum Work on =93Hybrid Access for = Broadband Networks=94 (WT-348)"
 
Hello
 
Thanks Barbara to send this liaison = out.
Hybrid Access = network is that Residential gateway (RG, or CPE) is extended with more = than two access lines
(e.g. DSL + = LTE) in order to provide higher bandwidth for the customers. The = scenario and architecture are shown as follows
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Right now, we have two individual = drafts, one for architecture and requirements, and the other one is for = an optional solution.
The draft ( ; ) proposes = the architecture and gap analysis.
Now the authors = have invited Orange to join this architecture work. We will send out the = new version of these drafts soon.
Best = Regards
 -----Original = Message-----
From: homenet = [mailto:homenet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ted Lemon
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 = 3:05 AM
To: STARK, = BARBARA H
Cc: HOMENET = Working Group
Subject: Re: = [homenet] Fwd: New Liaison Statement, "Broadband Forum Work on =93Hybrid Access for Broadband Networks=94 (WT-348)"
 
> FYI. I made sure they were aware = of IETF mif and homenet activities in this area. I intend to try to = prevent having to track efforts that try to do the same thing in two = different ways. But some of the BBF effort may be focused on what can be = done around "bonding" of multiple interfaces that are under the control = of a single service provider. I don't see this in mif or = homenet.
 
Thanks.   I couldn't really tell what was being = proposed from the Liaison statement, so this information is = helpful.
 
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DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CE681A87F2 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 08:00:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.49] (88.247.135.202.static.ttnet.com.tr [88.247.135.202]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mreueus003) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MGQI2-1XqpKo39Xc-00DDDq; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 17:00:24 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) From: Alper Yegin In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:00:19 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: To: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:MtqKcLaC4vItUIP0WO3yhCEVbKYvL+x4bZt6xVoL2Sh wEE+jknbgxK0Wc9fTR09hx6Dlk4TrFlY9zUtUzBtiTR+DZKZt1 X6eeUn7LJt39gzC6RTruSWAUknPmVrj87kDq5LAjTf0fKBh0HH iJfrMzaRnBCJKtNzve8IFh2/xuUSodBOi/sp3OaoIDpgpLKcdf bp+CCFHYfPaS3FQhuqBX/M6tiWmeueCGKq5drI1QBOF39HOY6f TMnCeMiKlQ+kHNVWihHHFuj7yMFyXTMZZiXfy1ATkw2JEyF2DW SrZOanfZMQmfblEE9HVyO1VyOlCD9dNFVuha1eTZf+1gJM3ggH mI1+WyrJe/bMQMVnZK5+/WmHWwXqMVE5S6r498gpqVluGPt8gj U4bqxXeAobRsg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmm/nUlHiEIqdEnZqdgJGPuvYyJRlGo Subject: [DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call#2 X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 16:00:27 -0000 Today we held the second call on DMM Mobility Exposure and Selection. Attendees: Danny, Pierrick, Sri, Byoung-Jo "J", Alper Outcome of the call is captured in the following slides: http://yegin.org/NGmobility/DMM_WG_Exposure_Selection_WT-Call2-r1.pptx Questions/comments welcome. Alper From nobody Fri Nov 7 09:44:40 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E34F1AD390; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 09:44:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gicv4hPQoiEw; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 09:44:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D37E1AD3AF; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 09:44:33 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.2.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141107174433.27991.78188.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 09:44:33 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmm/dF6Le4HrQ85tbz2wca_-vboFi-o Cc: dmm chair , dmm mailing list , RFC Editor Subject: [DMM] Document Action: 'Distributed Mobility Management: Current practices and gap analysis' to Informational RFC (draft-ietf-dmm-best-practices-gap-analysis-09.txt) X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 17:44:37 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Distributed Mobility Management: Current practices and gap analysis' (draft-ietf-dmm-best-practices-gap-analysis-09.txt) as Informational RFC This document is the product of the Distributed Mobility Management Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Brian Haberman and Ted Lemon. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-best-practices-gap-analysis/ Technical Summary The present document analyzes deployment practices of existing IP Mobility protocols in a distributed mobility management environment. The analyzed IP level (i.e., layer 3) mobility protocols include those developed by IETF and also those developed by other SDOs that have been widely deployed. Due the plurality of different mobility enabling protocol and solutions, the analysis has been intentionally limited to IP level (i.e., layer 3) protocol that typically are based on some sort of tunneling solution. The document then identifies existing limitations when compared to the distributed mobility management requirements defined in draft-ietf-dmm-requirements for a distributed mobility management solution. On the existing IP mobility enabling architectures (outside mobile VPNs or IETF defined IP mobility solutions), the document considers only the 3GPP GPRS/EPS system and service provider Wi-Fi due their dominant positions in the market place. Working Group Summary The document creation was not entirely smooth as seen from the timeline. There are several aspects in the existing deployments making use of IP mobility (such as the 3GPP GPRS/EPS) that already today include many enhancements on the deployment & product feature level that can be seen as a step towards distributed mobility management. The line between what is a gap and what can be achieved with today's tools was not always exactly clear. However, the WG has an agreement on the gaps described in this document and the fact that the most prevalent solutions that exist are not defined in IETF and are specific to certain system architectures. Document Quality There are no implementations of this document, since it only presents an analysis of existing protocols and deployments to what is intended to be achieved with distributed mobility management. The document has received multiple thorough reviews in the WG. Personnel Jouni Korhonen (jouni.nospam@gmail.com) is the document shepherd. Brian Haberman (briad@innivationslab.net) is the AD. 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--001a11c2618cf7dd9005079cd69b-- From nobody Tue Nov 11 21:44:02 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150E11A6FCA for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:44:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.983 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.983 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MWQo0YDZCZjr for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:43:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr (sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.145]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C6BA1A702B for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:43:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by sainfoin.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.3) with ESMTP id sAC5hvsR012578 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 06:43:57 +0100 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id A53D2200EB5 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 06:44:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from muguet1.intra.cea.fr (muguet1.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.6]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93083200C16 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 06:44:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([132.166.84.19]) by muguet1.intra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.2) with ESMTP id sAC5hjn9008802 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 06:43:55 +0100 Message-ID: <5462F391.5040302@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 06:43:45 +0100 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dmm@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmm/2GJ2vn0S6attYO5P9Oh05v3vwTk Subject: [DMM] Mobile IPv6 maintenance: HA never deletes a tunnel X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 05:44:00 -0000 Hello, There is a bug in an otherwise very good Mobile IPv6 Home Agent implementation. This particular Home Agent never deletes a tunnel interface. As such it does not support MNs which are silent for a while; when they come back up the tunnel is still there and cant be modified. A forcing de-register (BU lifetime 0) does not delete it either. This particular platform has a good Mobile IPv4 implementation. Am I the only one to experience this bug? Alex From nobody Thu Nov 13 01:30:39 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F3F1A6FC0 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 01:30:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.794 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.794 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w-7UKjSPwuGY for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 01:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D9061A6FB9 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 01:30:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BOS82425; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:30:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEML457-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.200) by lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.218) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:30:31 +0000 Received: from szxeml557-mbx.china.huawei.com ([169.254.5.109]) by szxeml457-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.67.200]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:29:35 +0800 From: h chan To: "dmm@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: enhanced anchor teleconference Thread-Index: AQHP/yRWMbN/3GfevkSbgYMeNUp7zA== Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:29:35 +0000 Message-ID: <6E31144C030982429702B11D6746B98C521AEC88@szxeml557-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <69756203DDDDE64E987BC4F70B71A26D91A95156@PALLENE.office.hd> <6E31144C030982429702B11D6746B98C521A9B8B@szxeml557-mbx.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <6E31144C030982429702B11D6746B98C521A9B8B@szxeml557-mbx.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.150.67] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_6E31144C030982429702B11D6746B98C521AEC88szxeml557mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmm/WZM01_TFEwciJ9VUQ5uNoePu88U Subject: [DMM] enhanced anchor teleconference X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:30:38 -0000 --_000_6E31144C030982429702B11D6746B98C521AEC88szxeml557mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The suggested time for the next teleconference is Nov 26 or Dec 1, 2 Please vote at: http://doodle.com/k3reqg8d7v3n8geb H Anthony Chan From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of h chan Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 4:56 PM To: dmm@ietf.org Subject: [DMM] enhanced anchor description The following is an attempt to describe anchor (for dmm) for discussion. Different proposed dmm solutions have used anchor. The functions of an anchor common to these solutions are: (1) advertise prefix/address of the MN (2) allocate prefix/address of the MN The functions used in some proposed dmm solutions but are not common to all= of them are: (1) packets to/from the MN traverse through. Note: with multiple anchors using anycast address, a packet may or may not = traverse any one of the anchors. Note: with route optimization in the host-based MIP, the packet does not tr= averse the anchor any more. Yet the anchor does perform the above functions= . (2) indirection, e.g., tunneling (3) information, e.g., binding HoA and CoA (4) sends route update, e.g., using BGP Methods to provide mobility support using anchor: (1) indirection (2) update routing tables ... H Anthony Chan --_000_6E31144C030982429702B11D6746B98C521AEC88szxeml557mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The suggested time for= the next teleconference is Nov 26 or Dec 1, 2

Please vote at:

http://doodle.com/k3re= qg8d7v3n8geb

 

H Anthony Chan

 

From: dmm [mai= lto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of h chan
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 4:56 PM
To: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: [DMM] enhanced anchor description

 

The following is an at= tempt to describe anchor (for dmm) for discussion.

 

Different proposed dmm= solutions have used anchor.

 

The functions of an an= chor common to these solutions are:

(1) advertise prefix/a= ddress of the MN

(2) allocate prefix/ad= dress of the MN

 

The functions used in = some proposed dmm solutions but are not common to all of them are:

(1) packets to/from th= e MN traverse through.

Note: with multiple an= chors using anycast address, a packet may or may not traverse any one of th= e anchors.

Note: with route optim= ization in the host-based MIP, the packet does not traverse the anchor any = more. Yet the anchor does perform the above functions.

(2) indirection, e.g.,= tunneling

(3) information, e.g.,= binding HoA and CoA

(4) sends route update= , e.g., using BGP

 

Methods to provide mob= ility support using anchor:

(1) indirection

(2) update routing tab= les

…

 

H Anthony Chan

--_000_6E31144C030982429702B11D6746B98C521AEC88szxeml557mbxchi_-- From nobody Mon Nov 24 10:05:47 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB8B1A87B0 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:05:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.311 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.311 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73rMvKpj2i1R for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:05:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89C2A1A87AD for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:05:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml402-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BLZ42885; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:05:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEML419-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.158) by lhreml402-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.241) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:05:37 +0000 Received: from szxeml557-mbx.china.huawei.com ([169.254.5.149]) by szxeml419-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.67.158]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 02:05:31 +0800 From: h chan To: "dmm@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: enhanced anchor teleconference Thread-Index: Ac/kmyIgzK7C1cuuSYGTNwAoaaSSegAAxylwAXM4azAAaUKUEATE94kgAjs9UZA= Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:05:30 +0000 Message-ID: <6E31144C030982429702B11D6746B98C521BD351@szxeml557-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <69756203DDDDE64E987BC4F70B71A26D91A95156@PALLENE.office.hd> <6E31144C030982429702B11D6746B98C521A9B8B@szxeml557-mbx.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.192.11.163] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_6E31144C030982429702B11D6746B98C521BD351szxeml557mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmm/sNnUeS4ufG0StJsC-IK7vNFXJRk Subject: Re: [DMM] enhanced anchor teleconference X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:05:46 -0000 --_000_6E31144C030982429702B11D6746B98C521BD351szxeml557mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Let us have the teleconference on Nov 26 at 7am Central Time. H Anthony Chan From: h chan Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 3:30 AM To: dmm@ietf.org Subject: enhanced anchor teleconference The suggested time for the next teleconference is Nov 26 or Dec 1, 2 Please vote at: http://doodle.com/k3reqg8d7v3n8geb H Anthony Chan From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of h chan Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 4:56 PM To: dmm@ietf.org Subject: [DMM] enhanced anchor description The following is an attempt to describe anchor (for dmm) for discussion. Different proposed dmm solutions have used anchor. The functions of an anchor common to these solutions are: (1) advertise prefix/address of the MN (2) allocate prefix/address of the MN The functions used in some proposed dmm solutions but are not common to all= of them are: (1) packets to/from the MN traverse through. Note: with multiple anchors using anycast address, a packet may or may not = traverse any one of the anchors. Note: with route optimization in the host-based MIP, the packet does not tr= averse the anchor any more. Yet the anchor does perform the above functions= . (2) indirection, e.g., tunneling (3) information, e.g., binding HoA and CoA (4) sends route update, e.g., using BGP Methods to provide mobility support using anchor: (1) indirection (2) update routing tables ... H Anthony Chan --_000_6E31144C030982429702B11D6746B98C521BD351szxeml557mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Let us have the teleco= nference on Nov 26 at 7am Central Time.

 

H Anthony Chan

 

From: h chan
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 3:30 AM
To: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: enhanced anchor teleconference

 

The suggested time for= the next teleconference is Nov 26 or Dec 1, 2

Please vote at:

http://doodle.com/k3reqg8d7v3n8geb<= /span>

 

H Anthony Chan

 

From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of h chan
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 4:56 PM
To: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: [DMM] enhanced anchor description

 

The following is an at= tempt to describe anchor (for dmm) for discussion.

 

Different proposed dmm= solutions have used anchor.

 

The functions of an an= chor common to these solutions are:

(1) advertise prefix/a= ddress of the MN

(2) allocate prefix/ad= dress of the MN

 

The functions used in = some proposed dmm solutions but are not common to all of them are:

(1) packets to/from th= e MN traverse through.

Note: with multiple an= chors using anycast address, a packet may or may not traverse any one of th= e anchors.

Note: with route optim= ization in the host-based MIP, the packet does not traverse the anchor any = more. Yet the anchor does perform the above functions.

(2) indirection, e.g.,= tunneling

(3) information, e.g.,= binding HoA and CoA

(4) sends route update= , e.g., using BGP

 

Methods to provide mob= ility support using anchor:

(1) indirection

(2) update routing tab= les

…

 

H Anthony Chan

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IMPORTANT=20NOTICE:=20Please=20note=20that=20this=20WebEx=20= service=20allows=20audio=20and=20other=20information=20sent=20during=20= the=20session=20to=20be=20recorded,=20which=20may=20be=20discoverable=20= in=20a=20legal=20matter.=20You=20should=20inform=20all=20meeting=20= attendees=20prior=20to=20recording=20if=20you=20intend=20to=20record=20= the=20meeting.=0ASUMMARY:DMM=20Enhanced=20anchor=20telco=0A= PRIORITY:5=0ACLASS:PUBLIC=0ABEGIN:VALARM=0ATRIGGER:-PT10M=0A= ACTION:DISPLAY=0ADESCRIPTION:Reminder=0AEND:VALARM=0AEND:VEVENT=0A= END:VCALENDAR=0A= --Apple-Mail=_EAB91E62-2309-46FF-9364-6995D9EC5318 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii --Apple-Mail=_EAB91E62-2309-46FF-9364-6995D9EC5318-- --Apple-Mail=_45DF77C5-0B9D-40CB-AE46-BEBCF77CD540-- From nobody Wed Nov 26 05:37:44 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953141A011E for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 05:37:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.791 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.791 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UXkaiuB-QXnt for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 05:37:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from av.it.pt (mail.av.it.pt [193.136.92.53]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4271A0118 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 05:37:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.23.3] (account seiljeon@av.it.pt HELO SeilATNOG) by av.it.pt (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.10) with ESMTPSA id 76686090; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 13:37:37 +0000 From: "Seil Jeon" To: "'Jouni'" , References: <1017103490.44139.1416868271827.JavaMail.nobody@jva2tc115.webex.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 13:37:38 -0000 Message-ID: <000001d0097e$25565ad0$70031070$@av.it.pt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01D0097E.2558A4C0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJ+bi6dMDVnvN+wu2kFtO+TLDPf/gGnAXAemwjnUzA= Content-Language: ko Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmm/V735bmtwegm5XbaJd-vf1iTWp9M Subject: Re: [DMM] WebEx meeting scheduled: DMM Enhanced anchor telco X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 13:37:42 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01D0097E.2558A4C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, >From the beginning of this meeting, I've tried to join this conf. but the audio doesn't work on Windows 7 and XP as well. Actually, I can see only the screen. Seil From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jouni Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:36 PM To: dmm@ietf.org Cc: Dapeng Liu Subject: [DMM] WebEx meeting scheduled: DMM Enhanced anchor telco DMM Enhanced anchor telco Wednesday 26 November 2014 7:00 | Central Standard Time (Chicago, GMT-06:00) | 1 hr 30 min Join WebEx meeting (Join WebEx meeting ) Meeting number: 649 556 328 Meeting password: dmm1911 Join by phone 1-877-668-4493 Call-in toll free number (US/Canada) 1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) Access code: 649 556 328 Toll-free calling restrictions Add this meeting to your calendar. Can't join the meeting? Contact support. IMPORTANT NOTICE: Please note that this WebEx service allows audio and other information sent during the session to be recorded, which may be discoverable in a legal matter. You should inform all meeting attendees prior to recording if you intend to record the meeting. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01D0097E.2558A4C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All,

 

From the beginning of this meeting, I’ve tried to join this conf. = but the audio doesn’t work on Windows 7 and XP as well. Actually, = I can see only the screen.

 

Seil

 

 

From:= = dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of = Jouni
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:36 = PM
To: dmm@ietf.org
Cc: Dapeng = Liu
Subject: [DMM] WebEx meeting scheduled: DMM Enhanced = anchor telco

 

DMM Enhanced anchor telco


Wednesday 26 November = 2014

7:00  |  Cen= tral Standard Time (Chicago, GMT-06:00)  |  1 hr 30 = min

 

 

 

Join = WebEx meeting

 

(Join WebEx meeting)
Meeting = number:

649 556 = 328

Meeting = password:

dmm1911

 

 

 

Join by phone

1-877-668-4493 Call-in toll free number = (US/Canada)

1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number = (US/Canada)

Access code: 649 556 = 328

Toll-free = calling = restrictions

 

 

 

Add this = meeting to your = calendar.

 

 

 

Can't join the meeting? Contact = support.

 

 

 

IMPORTANT NOTICE: Please note = that this WebEx service allows audio and other information sent during = the session to be recorded, which may be discoverable in a legal matter. = You should inform all meeting attendees prior to recording if you intend = to record the = meeting.

 

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