From nobody Thu Jun 2 11:47:34 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6DA12D7B3 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 11:47:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OOIDSVJding3 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 11:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pf0-x234.google.com (mail-pf0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D2C012D5EC for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 11:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pf0-x234.google.com with SMTP id g64so34335898pfb.2 for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2016 11:47:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=reply-to:subject:references:to:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ImKYIRBI9+Q19R+N1BzoeuVoKlgy8une2uctH0RtpHE=; b=v/ViFREDzeW0Hci1M0hrexg2s/bGIyJ+FmJVFRJOg0ACuEuB0g2WBqL5hjvLWtZYp8 BYW51yDqC/BJ4vLB4DIXVUWfYfkBL1hlFrnAK5vcp/U8OpCzzLjG0QgS87Z7u++NcpuW v0OwuqlkJHosT+dWp9/srAFfp/QGl91/tydk7me4CPEQGr5Dm3xTa++H6ZBUA5WQCiMO gCGQuKk4EF5fhIeYS9e92UZFArn1YmH0/OEqx2v0DQaUXoPBw44rav/Cryyw+E9zpQCJ PhxbHYoUwRWu0rbqZWgywDIiPwCzTN3MtbQJd0Pj6BqR01IUT+fIGeW2jaX/H8pxlc/b s5cw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:reply-to:subject:references:to:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ImKYIRBI9+Q19R+N1BzoeuVoKlgy8une2uctH0RtpHE=; b=ez6cNHeRggN7zObyX+h03c/sG+RJrhleZRsH5010Ve5NL4pBCPvXrYhR1BEPXaXXfc njdZJP+1n0tAFa1O0sjy1YVqw+nseaKHBcPPnrNqb925C/erl8eoD5xkxc7hEtY54hjs 6opginEZIjWKgkm/pjTWoj7oueRoe1otO4sXcyfc6RA5f03T7uPUsbWqyX3lkPT9G7aW Eh4tBwjoX5AxaFFd3xV1yQOXLntg1PYKcvAvLDCCoRjBz8mYTiQbQqxpj5YZkQVgGk69 8MKirDv8mtvWH1hEK9sm4j1wSDysmr+1/m7y/ShEx1iUJiLNEW3oO90JKzkYkCvXd7pK Z0MA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tI374FVC758hmPEb3FPn58+B8hrh/wvDIQVLf0qNPu/1UeHQIpuxh5iG2UOuMWr3w== X-Received: by 10.98.4.195 with SMTP id 186mr7239641pfe.98.1464893251717; Thu, 02 Jun 2016 11:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.16.65.15] ([216.31.219.19]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id h77sm2469795pfh.95.2016.06.02.11.47.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 02 Jun 2016 11:47:30 -0700 (PDT) References: <573A1039.2090001@gmail.com> To: "dmm@ietf.org" , =?UTF-8?B?5oiQIOm5jw==?= From: Jouni Korhonen Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 11:47:27 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <573A1039.2090001@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [DMM] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dmm-lma-controlled-mag-params-01 X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: jouni.nospam@gmail.com List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 18:47:33 -0000 Folks, The WGLC #1 has ended for this draft. We received a massive amount of 0 reviews. I cannot conclude that the WGLC passed. A new WGLC #2 will be announced soon and we will continue doing those until we get few proper review of the draft. - Jouni & Dapeng 5/16/2016, 11:23 AM, Jouni Korhonen kirjoitti: > Folks, > > This email starts the WGLC #1 for > draft-ietf-dmm-lma-controlled-mag-params-01. Post your comment to the > mailing list and also add your issues/correction requests/concerns etc > into the Issue Tracker. > > WGLC #1 Starts: 5/16/2016 > WGLC #1 Ends: 5/30/2016 EOB PDT > > Regards, > Jouni & Dapeng From nobody Tue Jun 7 03:02:39 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84F712D5D5 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2016 03:02:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.353 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.353 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P2s-9U9777GY for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2016 03:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cirse-out.extra.cea.fr (cirse-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9262212D54B for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2016 03:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by cirse.extra.cea.fr (8.15.2/8.15.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.4) with ESMTP id u57A2WCA013964; Tue, 7 Jun 2016 12:02:32 +0200 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 39063204B11; Tue, 7 Jun 2016 12:03:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet1.intra.cea.fr (muguet1.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.6]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3B7204B21; Tue, 7 Jun 2016 12:03:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.8.34.184] (is227335.intra.cea.fr [10.8.34.184]) by muguet1.intra.cea.fr (8.15.2/8.15.2/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.4) with ESMTP id u57A2WB5023720; Tue, 7 Jun 2016 12:02:32 +0200 To: "Jouni.nosmap" References: <95BCA70A-A090-407D-B44D-83E5F65FC501@gmail.com> From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: <5917a510-fd0f-4469-f446-86148f09f27c@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 12:02:32 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <95BCA70A-A090-407D-B44D-83E5F65FC501@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] WGLC reminder - draft-ietf-dmm-hnprenum-02 X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2016 10:02:38 -0000 Hi, This is comments about draft-ietf-dmm-hnprenum-02 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dmm-hnprenum-02 The draft is short, and reads very well. I think it should be further pursued. Here are some comments: > o When the MN obtains the new HNP information, it deletes the old > HoA and configures a new HoA with the newly allocated HNP. It would make sense to delete not only _the_ old HoA but all addresses configured within the old HNP. Because recently the hosts may configure more than one address when receiving a Router Advertisement - they may also configure at least one 'privacy' address. All of them should be deleted. > (1) UPN message > > In the UPN message sent from the LMA to the MAG, the notification > reason is set to 2 (UPDATE-SESSION-PARAMETERS). Besides, the HNP > option containing the new HNP and the Mobile Node Identifier option > carrying Identifier of MN are contained as Mobility Options of UPN. Can we see a message format of this? Is it an ICMP message? A Mobility Header? Has this message been prototyped, is there a packet dump? > In the first Prefix Information option, the old HNP is carried but > both the related Valid Lifetime and Preferred Lifetime are set to 0. > In the second Prefix Information option, the new HNP is carried with > the Valid Lifetime and Preferred Lifetime set to larger than 0. This reads smart: a unique message to tell the Host to delete the old prefix and use the new one. I agree. > (3) DHCP Message > > When the DHCP is used in PMIPv6 to configure the HoA for the MN, a > new IPv6 HoA is generated based on the new HNP. Trigged by the UPN > message, the MAG will request the new HoA from the DHCP server first > and then the MAG updates the allocated HoA to the MN through the DHCP > server-initiated configuration exchange [RFC3315]. I think this is too specific. It says MAG should request the new HoA (but what if MAG is Relay?). Second it says that the MAG requests an address and then the server does server-initiated configuration - this is also very specific. Maybe we can formulate in a different way, in which these specificities are just examples in the DHCP behaviour. Because there are other ways in which DHCP can act to achieve the same - e.g. use Prefix Delegation, use Relays, and others. > 7. Security considerations > > This extension causes no further security problem. The security > considerations in [RFC5213] and [RFC7077] are enough for the basic > operation of this draft. Maybe we should be specific to say that the security of the UPN message is ensured by... (something from RFC5213 and/or 5077). Alex Le 23/05/2016 à 19:17, Jouni.nosmap a écrit : > Folks, > > Friendly nudge to do reviews on drafts we got now in WGLC. > > Jouni > > Sent from a smart phone.. 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Authors, please reflect the review comments and submit an update of the draft. Based on the nature & amount of changes there will either be a new WGLC or the chairs will submit the document into IESG process. - Jouni & Dapeng 5/20/2016, 9:20 PM, Jouni kirjoitti: > Folks, > > This email starts the WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dmm-hnprenum-02. 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Yan" , "Jouni.nosmap" References: <95BCA70A-A090-407D-B44D-83E5F65FC501@gmail.com> <201606081326010369670@cnnic.cn> From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: <584fd9a5-86ea-d071-9556-b34ee7436de4@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 10:06:17 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201606081326010369670@cnnic.cn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gbk; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: dmm Subject: Re: [DMM] WGLC reminder - draft-ietf-dmm-hnprenum-02 X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2016 08:06:30 -0000 Hi Z. W. Yan, Le 08/06/2016 ¨¤ 07:26, Z.W. Yan a ¨¦crit : > Thank you for your comments, Alex, please find my inline responses. > > > 2016-06-08 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Z.W. Yan > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *·¢¼þÈË£º* Alexandre Petrescu > *·¢ËÍʱ¼ä£º* 2016-06-07 18:02:49 *ÊÕ¼þÈË£º* Jouni.nosmap *³­ËÍ£º* dmm *Ö÷Ì⣺* Re: > [DMM] WGLC reminder - draft-ietf-dmm-hnprenum-02 Hi, This is comments > about draft-ietf-dmm-hnprenum-02 > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dmm-hnprenum-02 The draft is > short, and reads very well. I think it should be further pursued. > Here are some comments: >> o When the MN obtains the new HNP information, it deletes the old >> HoA and configures a new HoA with the newly allocated HNP. > It would make sense to delete not only _the_ old HoA but all > addresses configured within the old HNP. Because recently the hosts > may configure more than one address when receiving a Router > Advertisement - they may also configure at least one 'privacy' > address. All of them should be deleted. > > ***This description will be revised as "When the MN obtains the new > HNP information, > > it deletes all the addresses (e.g., HoA) configured with the old HNP > and configures new addresses with the newly allocated HNP." I agree, thanks. > >> (1) UPN message >> >> In the UPN message sent from the LMA to the MAG, the notification >> reason is set to 2 (UPDATE-SESSION-PARAMETERS). Besides, the HNP >> option containing the new HNP and the Mobile Node Identifier >> option carrying Identifier of MN are contained as Mobility Options >> of UPN. > Can we see a message format of this? Is it an ICMP message? A > Mobility Header? > > ***We did not present the message format because the UPN message, as > a mobility header message, is speficied in RFC7077, (and also the > notification reason used in this draft). And HNP option and Mobile > Node Identifier option are speficied in RFC5213. I think there are multiple things here. I think the following: The Mobile Node Id option is defined in RFC4283, not RFC5213. The draft hpnrenum should relate to it. Further, there is work ongoing to update the MNId definition with more cases. The draft is draft-perkins-mext-4283mnids-01.txt. It is not yet a WG item, but anyways. > Has this message been prototyped, is there a packet dump? > > ***The procedure used for HNP renumbering in this draft follows the > RFC7077, we did not introduce new security risk and failure. I am asking whether it has been prototyped (implemented), not whether it introduces new risks. I wanted to see a packet dump of wireshark. For example, one can take the scapy open source tool and simply generate a UPN message for the HNP-renum draft. This can be very straightforward. I am asking because you are saying that there are two HNPs in the RA, but only one HNP in the UPN. Maybe this is normal. I am asking also because I wonder whether the order of appearance of MNID and HNP is important in the UPN message. Maybe the order is not important. >> In the first Prefix Information option, the old HNP is carried but >> both the related Valid Lifetime and Preferred Lifetime are set to >> 0. In the second Prefix Information option, the new HNP is carried >> with the Valid Lifetime and Preferred Lifetime set to larger than >> 0. > This reads smart: a unique message to tell the Host to delete the old > prefix and use the new one. I agree. > > ***Yep. > >> (3) DHCP Message >> >> When the DHCP is used in PMIPv6 to configure the HoA for the MN, a >> new IPv6 HoA is generated based on the new HNP. Trigged by the >> UPN message, the MAG will request the new HoA from the DHCP server >> first and then the MAG updates the allocated HoA to the MN through >> the DHCP server-initiated configuration exchange [RFC3315]. > I think this is too specific. It says MAG should request the new HoA > (but what if MAG is Relay?). Second it says that the MAG requests > an address and then the server does server-initiated configuration - > this is also very specific. Maybe we can formulate in a different > way, in which these specificities are just examples in the DHCP > behaviour. Because there are other ways in which DHCP can act to > achieve the same - e.g. use Prefix Delegation, use Relays, and > others. > > ***Agree, then the description will be revised as "When the DHCP is > used in PMIPv6 to configure the addresses for the MN, new IPv6 > addresses (e.g., HoA) will be generated based on the new HNP and the > related DHCP procedure is also trigged by the reception of UPN > message." triggered... yes, I agree. > >> 7. Security considerations >> >> This extension causes no further security problem. The security >> considerations in [RFC5213] and [RFC7077] are enough for the basic >> operation of this draft. > Maybe we should be specific to say that the security of the UPN > message is ensured by... (something from RFC5213 and/or 5077). > > ***Because we did not specify new signaling messages in this draft, > the suggestions to protect UPN/UNA messages are illustrated in > RFC7077, which also follow the security considerations in RFC5213. > Then we describe this part as "This extension causes no further > security problem. The protection of UPN and UNA messages follow > [RFC5213] and [RFC7077]." Sounds good. But now that you mention UNA: the UNA message does not appear in the section 5 "Message format". So I digged further and I discover that "Update Notification Ack" is defined in RFC7077 and it's actually abbreviated "UPA", not "UNA" - which name is right? I am not am implementor tester of this, but I think, since this is a specific operation (delete routing info based on old HNP, add new routing INFO based on new HNP), I think it could make sense to define a new "Status Code" in UNA/UPA to reflect specific error to that specific operation. For example, the value could be decimal 127, and the meaning could be "FAILED-TO-RENUMBER-HNP". Of course, if the implementer does not find value or no reason in this new Status Code, then I will not insist. Yours, Alexandre Petrescu > > > Alex Le 23/05/2016 ¨¤ 19:17, Jouni.nosmap a ¨¦crit : >> Folks, >> >> Friendly nudge to do reviews on drafts we got now in WGLC. >> >> Jouni >> >> Sent from a smart phone.. Mind the typos.. >> >> _______________________________________________ dmm mailing list >> dmm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm >> > _______________________________________________ dmm mailing list > dmm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm From nobody Wed Jun 8 01:47:47 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C59212D0A0 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2016 01:47:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.327 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.327 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eO89CR67ZoWR for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2016 01:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cnnic.cn (smtp13.cnnic.cn [218.241.118.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358DC12D878 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2016 01:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yanzhiwei (unknown [218.241.111.47]) by ocmail02.zx.nicx.cn (Coremail) with SMTP id AQAAf0A5QTmr21dXHm3ZCQ--.39295S2; Wed, 08 Jun 2016 16:47:39 +0800 (CST) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 16:47:34 +0800 From: "Z.W. 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X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: jouni.nospam@gmail.com List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2016 22:29:22 -0000 Folks, IETF96 is approaching.. in order to build an agenda with appropriate time allocation we would like to collect the agenda requests as soon as possible. Working group I-Ds have a priority but won't be granted a slot unless asked by the authors explicitly. DMM topics will have priority over MIP maintenance topics. Name your I-D, requested time and if this is about a new work state also the reasoning why it deserves meeting time. Please, avoid requesting slots for I-Ds with just a "trivial" incremental update to the previous version. People should be able to do a diff themselves. - Jouni & Dapeng From nobody Thu Jun 9 01:34:28 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02EE612D15E for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2016 01:34:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.347 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.347 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lzWsI8b4bQ1J for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2016 01:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mga09.intel.com (mga09.intel.com [134.134.136.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C2212D145 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2016 01:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orsmga001.jf.intel.com ([10.7.209.18]) by orsmga102.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 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Thu, 9 Jun 2016 22:19:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.21.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160610051907.16862.56127.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2016 22:19:07 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: [DMM] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids-02.txt X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 05:19:08 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Distributed Mobility Management of the IETF. Title : MN Identifier Types for RFC 4283 Mobile Node Identifier Option Authors : Charles E. Perkins Vijay Devarapalli Filename : draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids-02.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2016-06-09 Abstract: Additional Identifier Types are proposed for use with the Mobile Node Identifier Option for MIPv6 (RFC 4283). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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This draft is a work item of the Distributed Mobility Management of the IETF. Title : On Demand Mobility Management Authors : Alper Yegin Danny Moses Kisuk Kweon Jinsung Lee Jungshin Park Filename : draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-04.txt Pages : 12 Date : 2016-06-14 Abstract: Applications differ with respect to whether they need IP session continuity and/or IP address reachability. The network providing the same type of service to any mobile host and any application running on the host yields inefficiencies. This document describes a solution for taking the application needs into account in selectively providing IP session continuity and IP address reachability on a per- socket basis. 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This draft is a work item of the Distributed Mobility Management of the IETF. Title : On Demand Mobility Management Authors : Alper Yegin Danny Moses Kisuk Kweon Jinsung Lee Jungshin Park Filename : draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05.txt Pages : 12 Date : 2016-06-15 Abstract: Applications differ with respect to whether they need IP session continuity and/or IP address reachability. The network providing the same type of service to any mobile host and any application running on the host yields inefficiencies. This document describes a solution for taking the application needs into account in selectively providing IP session continuity and IP address reachability on a per- socket basis. 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Let me know = my understanding is correct or not first. Actually, this draft comes to a proposed container option to be = delivered by a PBA message, enabling the LMA to put various parameters related to the = MAG enforcement, not doing it individually for less signaling overhead(?) And when I saw following sentence "Configuring aggressive values of parameters such as re-registration = timeout and heartbeat interval can potentially create considerable signaling = load on the LMA." I was expecting you would take care of it in terms of efficient = transmission perspective as well. Is it out-of-scope, right? Two minor typos are, In Introduction, aggresive -> aggressive in 5.2, reveived -> received(?) 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Tue, 21 Jun 2016 02:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seiljeonPC ([115.145.170.65]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z127sm76024654pfz.20.2016.06.21.02.51.55 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 21 Jun 2016 02:51:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Seil Jeon" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:51:52 +0900 Message-ID: <005101d1cba2$8beed280$a3cc7780$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQHyx4yFa7nXh13A8Jtk2ElK2n4oTJ+xrgRw Content-Language: ko Archived-At: Cc: =?gb2312?B?JyLB9bTzxfQoxfSzySkiJw==?= Subject: Re: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05 X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:51:59 -0000 Hi, I have read and checked the updates in -03 version. And I support this draft to move forward, if the following is clearly resolved. "4.2. IP Stack in the Mobile Host ... If the network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility feature, the = IP stack may still request specific types of source IP address = transparently to legacy applications." As this draft is based on the application-driven API selection idea, if = no explicit request is given by an application, the type should be selected = by default, though the default behavior could be regulated by the network operator. My comment is putting "based on a default havior" in a proper place in the sentence would be exact, leaving no misunderstanding as if = the IP stack has the selection capability of source IP address type, instead = of the application. One minor comment is [I-D.ietf-dmm-requirements] in the reference should = be replaced by RFC7333. Regards, Seil Jeon -----Original Message----- From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jouni Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:16 AM To: dmm@ietf.org Cc: "=C1=F5=B4=F3=C5=F4(=C5=F4=B3=C9)" Subject: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05 Folks, This email starts the WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05. = Post your comment to the mailing list and also add your issues/correction requests/concerns etc into the Issue Tracker. 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Hi,
 
Thanks for the support.
 
I agree with your comment; the text might be misleading.
The general principle is to maintain the old behavior (prior to OnDema= nd support) when one entity is  legacy. According to this principle, i= f a legacy application is executed, it should experience the same behavior = as if it would have been executed with a legacy IP stack and legacy network. The problem is however, that the beha= vior of the network in terms of IP address type allocation is not define.
 
So I am thinking of changing the text from =A8C
"New IP stacks must continue to support all legacy operations. If= an
application does not use On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP stack
must respond in a legacy manner.
 
If the network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility feature,
the IP stack may still request specific types of source IP address
transparently to legacy applications. This may be useful for
environments in which both legacy and new applications are executed.
 
The definition of what type of addresses to request and how they are
assigned to legacy applications are outside of the scope of this
specification."
 
To (the red text is new, the strike= through text will be deleted)=A8C
" New IP stacks must continue to support all legacy operations. I= f an
application does not use On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP stack
must respond in a legacy manner.
 
If the network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility feature,
the IP stack should act according to the applicati= on request: If the
application requests a specific address type, the = stack should forward
this request to the network. If the application do= es not request a specific
address type, the IP stack must not request an add= ress type and leave
it to the network's default behavior to choose the= type of the allocated
IP address. If an address was already allocated to= the host, the IP stack
should use this address and not request a new one = from the network.
may still request specific types of source IP address=
transparently to legacy applications. This may be useful for
environments in which both legacy and new applications are exe= cuted.
 
The definition of what type of addresses to request and how th= ey are
assigned to legacy applications are outside of the scope of th= is
specification."
 
Is that OK?
 
Thanks,
           &nbs= p;    /Danny
 
-----Original Message-----
From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.= org] On Behalf Of Seil Jeon
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:52
To: dmm@ietf.org
Cc: '"=C1=F5=B4=F3=C5=F4(=C5=F4=B3=C9)"'
Subject: Re: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05
 
Hi,
 
I have read and checked the updates in -03 version.
And I support this draft to move forward, if the following is clearly = resolved.
 
 
"4.2. IP Stack in the Mobile Host
 
...
 
 
If the network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility feature, the= IP stack may still request specific types of source IP address  trans= parently to legacy applications."
 
 
As this draft is based on the application-driven API selection idea, i= f no explicit request is given by an application, the type should be select= ed by default, though the default behavior could be regulated by the networ= k operator. My comment is putting "based on a default havior" in a proper place in the sentence wou= ld be exact, leaving no misunderstanding as if the IP stack has the selecti= on capability of source IP address type, instead of the application.
 
One minor comment is [I-D.ietf-dmm-requirements] in the reference shou= ld be replaced by RFC7333.
 
 
Regards,
Seil Jeon
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@= ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jouni
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:16 AM
Cc: "=C1=F5=B4=F3=C5=F4(=C5=F4=B3=C9)"
Subject: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05
 
Folks,
 
This email starts the WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05.= Post your comment to the mailing list and also add your issues/correction = requests/concerns etc into the Issue Tracker.
 
   WGLC #2 Starts: 6/15/2016
   WGLC #2 Ends: 6/29/2016 EOB PDT
 
Regards,
   Jouni & Dapeng
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I mostly agree with your texts. But I put my = small revision on your texts. For the last sentence, I hope we leave some spaces for any enhancement. =20 If the network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP stack should act according to follow the application request by priority; If the application requests a specific address type, the = stack should forward this request to the network. If the application does not request a specific address type, the IP stack must not request an = address type and leave it to the network's default behavior to choose the type = of the allocated IP address. If an IP address was already allocated to the host, the IP stack should uses this address and may not request a new = ine one from the network. =20 Regards, Seil Jeon =20 From: Moses, Danny [mailto:danny.moses@intel.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 7:06 PM To: Seil Jeon; dmm@ietf.org Cc: '"???(??)"' Subject: RE: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05 =20 Hi, =20 Thanks for the support. =20 I agree with your comment; the text might be misleading. The general principle is to maintain the old behavior (prior to OnDemand support) when one entity is legacy. According to this principle, if a legacy application is executed, it should experience the same behavior = as if it would have been executed with a legacy IP stack and legacy network. = The problem is however, that the behavior of the network in terms of IP = address type allocation is not define. =20 So I am thinking of changing the text from =A8C=20 "New IP stacks must continue to support all legacy operations. If an application does not use On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP stack must respond in a legacy manner. =20 If the network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP stack may still request specific types of source IP address transparently to legacy applications. This may be useful for environments in which both legacy and new applications are executed. =20 The definition of what type of addresses to request and how they are assigned to legacy applications are outside of the scope of this specification." =20 To (the red text is new, the strikethrough text will be deleted)=A8C=20 " New IP stacks must continue to support all legacy operations. If an application does not use On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP stack must respond in a legacy manner. =20 If the network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP stack should act according to the application request: If the=20 application requests a specific address type, the stack should forward=20 this request to the network. If the application does not request a = specific=20 address type, the IP stack must not request an address type and leave=20 it to the network's default behavior to choose the type of the allocated = IP address. If an address was already allocated to the host, the IP = stack=20 should use this address and not request a new one from the network. may still request specific types of source IP address transparently to legacy applications. This may be useful for environments in which both legacy and new applications are executed. =20 The definition of what type of addresses to request and how they are assigned to legacy applications are outside of the scope of this specification." =20 Is that OK? =20 Thanks, /Danny =20 -----Original Message----- From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Seil Jeon Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:52 To: dmm@ietf.org =20 Cc: '"=C1=F5=B4=F3=C5=F4(=C5=F4=B3=C9)"' Subject: Re: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05 =20 Hi, =20 I have read and checked the updates in -03 version. And I support this draft to move forward, if the following is clearly resolved. =20 =20 "4.2. IP Stack in the Mobile Host =20 ... =20 =20 If the network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility feature, the = IP stack may still request specific types of source IP address = transparently to legacy applications." =20 =20 As this draft is based on the application-driven API selection idea, if = no explicit request is given by an application, the type should be selected = by default, though the default behavior could be regulated by the network operator. My comment is putting "based on a default havior" in a proper place in the sentence would be exact, leaving no misunderstanding as if = the IP stack has the selection capability of source IP address type, instead = of the application. =20 One minor comment is [I-D.ietf-dmm-requirements] in the reference should = be replaced by RFC7333. =20 =20 Regards, Seil Jeon =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jouni Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:16 AM To: dmm@ietf.org =20 Cc: "=C1=F5=B4=F3=C5=F4(=C5=F4=B3=C9)" Subject: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05 =20 Folks, =20 This email starts the WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05. = Post your comment to the mailing list and also add your issues/correction requests/concerns etc into the Issue Tracker. =20 WGLC #2 Starts: 6/15/2016 WGLC #2 Ends: 6/29/2016 EOB PDT =20 Regards, Jouni & Dapeng _______________________________________________ dmm mailing list dmm@ietf.org =20 https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm =20 _______________________________________________ dmm mailing list dmm@ietf.org =20 https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0237_01D1CD86.02124AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Danny,

 

Thanks for your revision. I mostly agree with your texts. = But I put my small revision on your texts.

For the last sentence, I hope we leave some spaces for any = enhancement.

 

If the network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility = feature,

the IP stack should act according to follow the application request by priority; If the  application = requests a specific address type, the stack should forward  this = request to the network. If the application does not request a specific =  address type, the IP stack must not request an address type and = leave  it to the network's default behavior to choose the type of = the allocated  IP address. If an IP address was already allocated to the host, = the IP stack should uses this address and = may not request a new ine one from the network.

 

Regards,=

Seil = Jeon

 

From: Moses, = Danny [mailto:danny.moses@intel.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, = 2016 7:06 PM
To: Seil Jeon; dmm@ietf.org
Cc: = '"???(??)"'
Subject: RE: [DMM] WGLC #2 for = draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05

 

Hi,

 =

Thanks for = the support.

 =

I agree = with your comment; the text might be = misleading.

The = general principle is to maintain the old behavior (prior to OnDemand = support) when one entity is  legacy. According to this principle, = if a legacy application is executed, it should experience the same = behavior as if it would have been executed with a legacy IP stack and = legacy network. The problem is however, that the behavior of the network = in terms of IP address type allocation is not = define.

 =

So I am = thinking of changing the text from =A8C =

"New = IP stacks must continue to support all legacy operations. If = an

application= does not use On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP = stack

must = respond in a legacy manner.

 =

If the = network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility = feature,

the IP = stack may still request specific types of source IP = address

transparent= ly to legacy applications. This may be useful = for

environment= s in which both legacy and new applications are = executed.

 =

The = definition of what type of addresses to request and how they = are

assigned = to legacy applications are outside of the scope of = this

specificati= on."

 =

To (the = red text is new, the = strikethrough text will be deleted)=A8C =

" New = IP stacks must continue to support all legacy operations. If = an

application= does not use On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP = stack

must = respond in a legacy manner.

 =

If the = network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility = feature,

the IP = stack should act according to the application = request: If the

a= pplication requests a specific address type, the stack should forward = =

t= his request to the network. If the application does not request a = specific =

a= ddress type, the IP stack must not request an address type and leave = =

i= t to the network's default behavior to choose the type of the allocated = =

I= P address. If an address was already allocated to the host, the IP stack = =

s= hould use this address and not request a new one from the = network.=

may still = request specific types of source IP address=

transparent= ly to legacy applications. This may be useful for=

environment= s in which both legacy and new applications are = executed.=

 =

The = definition of what type of addresses to request and how they = are=

assigned = to legacy applications are outside of the scope of this=

specificati= on."=

 =

Is that = OK?

 =

Thanks,

  = ;            =   /Danny

 =

-----Origin= al Message-----
From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Seil Jeon
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:52
To: dmm@ietf.org
Cc: '"=C1=F5=B4=F3=C5=F4(=C5=F4=B3=C9)"'Subject: Re: [DMM] WGLC #2 for = draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05

 =

Hi,

 =

I have = read and checked the updates in -03 = version.

And I = support this draft to move forward, if the following is clearly = resolved.

 =

 =

"4.2. = IP Stack in the Mobile Host

 =

...

 =

 =

If the = network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP stack = may still request specific types of source IP address  = transparently to legacy = applications."

 =

 =

As this = draft is based on the application-driven API selection idea, if no = explicit request is given by an application, the type should be selected = by default, though the default behavior could be regulated by the = network operator. My comment is putting "based on a default = havior" in a proper place in the sentence would be exact, leaving = no misunderstanding as if the IP stack has the selection capability of = source IP address type, instead of the = application.

 =

One minor = comment is [I-D.ietf-dmm-requirements] in the reference should be = replaced by RFC7333.

 =

 =

Regards,

Seil = Jeon

 =

 =

-----Origin= al Message-----

From: dmm = [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Jouni

Sent: = Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:16 AM

=

Cc: = "=C1=F5=B4=F3=C5=F4(=C5=F4=B3=C9)"

Subject: = [DMM] WGLC #2 for = draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05

 =

Folks,=

 =

This email = starts the WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05. Post your = comment to the mailing list and also add your issues/correction = requests/concerns etc into the Issue = Tracker.

 =

  = ; WGLC #2 Starts: 6/15/2016

  = ; WGLC #2 Ends: 6/29/2016 EOB PDT

 =

Regards,

  = ; Jouni & Dapeng

___________= ____________________________________

dmm = mailing list

=

 =

___________= ____________________________________

dmm = mailing list

=

 =

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Hi Seil,

 <= /p>

Thanks for the correction= .

The only fix I did not un= derstand is the addition of 'by priority'. The rest of the fixes are fine.<= o:p>

 <= /p>

I will wait a couple of d= ays to let additional people respond, and release a new version towards the= end of this week.

 <= /p>

    &= nbsp;           /Danny

 <= /p>

From: Seil Jeon [mailto:seiljeon@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 13:33
To: Moses, Danny
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05

 

Hi Danny,<= /o:p>

 

Thanks for your= revision. I mostly agree with your texts. But I put my small revision on y= our texts.

For the last se= ntence, I hope we leave some spaces for any enhancement.<= /p>

 

If the network = infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility feature,

the IP stack should act according to follow the applica= tion request by priority; If the  application requ= ests a specific address type, the stack should forward  this request t= o the network. If the application does not request a specific  address= type, the IP stack must not request an address type and leave  it to the network's default behavior to choose the type of= the allocated  IP address. If an IP address was already allocated to the ho= st, the IP stack should uses this addre= ss and may not request a new ine one from the network.

 

Regards,

Seil Jeon

 

From: Moses,= Danny [mailto:danny.moses@intel.c= om]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 7:06 PM
To: Seil Jeon; dmm@ietf.org
Cc: '"???(??)"'
Subject: RE: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for the support.

 

I agree with your comment; the text mig= ht be misleading.

The general principle is to maintain th= e old behavior (prior to OnDemand support) when one entity is  legacy.= According to this principle, if a legacy application is executed, it should experience the same behavior as if it would have been executed w= ith a legacy IP stack and legacy network. The problem is however, that the = behavior of the network in terms of IP address type allocation is not defin= e.

 

So I am thinking of changing the text f= rom =A8C

"New IP stacks must continue to su= pport all legacy operations. If an

application does not use On-Demand Mobi= lity feature, the IP stack

must respond in a legacy manner.

 

If the network infrastructure supports = On-Demand Mobility feature,

the IP stack may still request specific= types of source IP address

transparently to legacy applications. T= his may be useful for

environments in which both legacy and n= ew applications are executed.

 

The definition of what type of addresse= s to request and how they are

assigned to legacy applications are out= side of the scope of this

specification."<= /p>

 

To (the red text is new, the strikethrough = text will be deleted)=A8C

" New IP stacks must continue to s= upport all legacy operations. If an

application does not use On-Demand Mobi= lity feature, the IP stack

must respond in a legacy manner.

 

If the network infrastructure supports = On-Demand Mobility feature,

the IP stack should act according to the application request: = If the

application requests a specif= ic address type, the stack should forward

this request to the network. = If the application does not request a specific

address type, the IP stack mu= st not request an address type and leave

it to the network's default b= ehavior to choose the type of the allocated

IP address. If an address was= already allocated to the host, the IP stack

should use this address and n= ot request a new one from the network.

may still request specific types of = source IP address

transparently to legacy applications= . This may be useful for

environments in which both legacy an= d new applications are executed.<= /p>

 

The definition of what type of addre= sses to request and how they are<= /p>

assigned to legacy applications are = outside of the scope of this

specification."

 

Is that OK?

 

Thanks,

      &nb= sp;         /Danny

 

-----Original Message-----
From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.= org] On Behalf Of Seil Jeon
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:52
To: dmm@ietf.org
Cc: '"=C1=F5=B4=F3=C5=F4(=C5=F4=B3= =C9)"'
Subject: Re: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05

 

Hi,

 

I have read and checked the updates in = -03 version.

And I support this draft to move forwar= d, if the following is clearly resolved.

 

 

"4.2. IP Stack in the Mobile Host<= o:p>

 

...

 

 

If the network infrastructure supports = On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP stack may still request specific types o= f source IP address  transparently to legacy applications."<= /o:p>

 

 

As this draft is based on the applicati= on-driven API selection idea, if no explicit request is given by an applica= tion, the type should be selected by default, though the default behavior could be regulated by the network operator. My comment is= putting "based on a default havior" in a proper place in the sen= tence would be exact, leaving no misunderstanding as if the IP stack has th= e selection capability of source IP address type, instead of the application.

 

One minor comment is [I-D.ietf-dmm-requ= irements] in the reference should be replaced by RFC7333.=

 

 

Regards,

Seil Jeon

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jouni<= /span>

Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:16 AM

Cc: "=C1=F5=B4=F3=C5= =F4(=C5=F4=B3=C9)"<= /span>

Subject: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-d= mm-ondemand-mobility-05

 

Folks,

 

This email starts the WGLC #2 for draft= -ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05. Post your comment to the mailing list and a= lso add your issues/correction requests/concerns etc into the Issue Tracker.

 

   WGLC #2 Starts: 6/15/2016<= o:p>

   WGLC #2 Ends: 6/29/2016 EO= B PDT

 

Regards,

   Jouni & Dapeng

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The only fix I did not understand is the addition of 'by priority'. The = rest of the fixes are fine. =20 I will wait a couple of days to let additional people respond, and = release a new version towards the end of this week. =20 /Danny =20 From: Seil Jeon [mailto:seiljeon@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 13:33 To: Moses, Danny Cc: dmm@ietf.org =20 Subject: RE: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05 =20 Hi Danny, =20 Thanks for your revision. I mostly agree with your texts. But I put my = small revision on your texts. For the last sentence, I hope we leave some spaces for any enhancement. =20 If the network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP stack should act according to follow the application request by priority; If the application requests a specific address type, the = stack should forward this request to the network. If the application does not request a specific address type, the IP stack must not request an = address type and leave it to the network's default behavior to choose the type = of the allocated IP address. If an IP address was already allocated to the host, the IP stack should uses this address and may not request a new = ine one from the network. =20 Regards, Seil Jeon =20 From: Moses, Danny [mailto:danny.moses@intel.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 7:06 PM To: Seil Jeon; dmm@ietf.org =20 Cc: '"???(??)"' Subject: RE: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05 =20 Hi, =20 Thanks for the support. =20 I agree with your comment; the text might be misleading. The general principle is to maintain the old behavior (prior to OnDemand support) when one entity is legacy. According to this principle, if a legacy application is executed, it should experience the same behavior = as if it would have been executed with a legacy IP stack and legacy network. = The problem is however, that the behavior of the network in terms of IP = address type allocation is not define. =20 So I am thinking of changing the text from =A8C=20 "New IP stacks must continue to support all legacy operations. If an application does not use On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP stack must respond in a legacy manner. =20 If the network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP stack may still request specific types of source IP address transparently to legacy applications. This may be useful for environments in which both legacy and new applications are executed. =20 The definition of what type of addresses to request and how they are assigned to legacy applications are outside of the scope of this specification." =20 To (the red text is new, the strikethrough text will be deleted)=A8C=20 " New IP stacks must continue to support all legacy operations. If an application does not use On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP stack must respond in a legacy manner. =20 If the network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP stack should act according to the application request: If the=20 application requests a specific address type, the stack should forward=20 this request to the network. If the application does not request a = specific=20 address type, the IP stack must not request an address type and leave=20 it to the network's default behavior to choose the type of the allocated = IP address. If an address was already allocated to the host, the IP = stack=20 should use this address and not request a new one from the network. may still request specific types of source IP address transparently to legacy applications. This may be useful for environments in which both legacy and new applications are executed. =20 The definition of what type of addresses to request and how they are assigned to legacy applications are outside of the scope of this specification." =20 Is that OK? =20 Thanks, /Danny =20 -----Original Message----- From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Seil Jeon Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:52 To: dmm@ietf.org =20 Cc: '"=C1=F5=B4=F3=C5=F4(=C5=F4=B3=C9)"' Subject: Re: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05 =20 Hi, =20 I have read and checked the updates in -03 version. And I support this draft to move forward, if the following is clearly resolved. =20 =20 "4.2. IP Stack in the Mobile Host =20 ... =20 =20 If the network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility feature, the = IP stack may still request specific types of source IP address = transparently to legacy applications." =20 =20 As this draft is based on the application-driven API selection idea, if = no explicit request is given by an application, the type should be selected = by default, though the default behavior could be regulated by the network operator. My comment is putting "based on a default havior" in a proper place in the sentence would be exact, leaving no misunderstanding as if = the IP stack has the selection capability of source IP address type, instead = of the application. =20 One minor comment is [I-D.ietf-dmm-requirements] in the reference should = be replaced by RFC7333. =20 =20 Regards, Seil Jeon =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jouni Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:16 AM To: dmm@ietf.org =20 Cc: "=C1=F5=B4=F3=C5=F4(=C5=F4=B3=C9)" Subject: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05 =20 Folks, =20 This email starts the WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05. = Post your comment to the mailing list and also add your issues/correction requests/concerns etc into the Issue Tracker. =20 WGLC #2 Starts: 6/15/2016 WGLC #2 Ends: 6/29/2016 EOB PDT =20 Regards, Jouni & Dapeng _______________________________________________ dmm mailing list dmm@ietf.org =20 https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm =20 _______________________________________________ dmm mailing list dmm@ietf.org =20 https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01D1CFCF.1FDB7130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = Danny,

 

It aims to clarify what = order the IP stack should follow among the cases; when an application = does/doesn=A1=AFt specify its requested type.

 

Regards,=

Seil = Jeon

 

From: Moses, = Danny [mailto:danny.moses@intel.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 26, = 2016 4:44 PM
To: Seil Jeon
Cc: = dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [DMM] WGLC #2 for = draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05

 

Hi Seil,

 

Thanks for the correction.

The only fix I did not understand is the addition of 'by priority'. = The rest of the fixes are fine.

 

I will wait a couple of days to let additional people respond, and = release a new version towards the end of this = week.

 

           &nbs= p;    /Danny

 

From:= Seil Jeon = [mailto:seiljeon@gmail.com] =
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 13:33
To: Moses, = Danny
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: = [DMM] WGLC #2 for = draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05

 

Hi Danny,

 

Thanks for your revision. I mostly agree with your texts. = But I put my small revision on your texts.

For the last sentence, I hope we leave some spaces for any = enhancement.

 

If the network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility = feature,

the IP stack should act according to follow the application request by priority; If the  application = requests a specific address type, the stack should forward  this = request to the network. If the application does not request a specific =  address type, the IP stack must not request an address type and = leave  it to the network's default behavior to choose the type of = the allocated  IP address. If an IP address was already allocated to the host, = the IP stack should uses this address and = may not request a new ine one from the network.

 

Regards,=

Seil = Jeon

 

From: Moses, = Danny [mailto:danny.moses@intel.com] =
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 7:06 PM
To: Seil = Jeon; dmm@ietf.org
Cc: = '"???(??)"'
Subject: RE: [DMM] WGLC #2 for = draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05

 

Hi,

 =

Thanks for = the support.

 =

I agree = with your comment; the text might be = misleading.

The = general principle is to maintain the old behavior (prior to OnDemand = support) when one entity is  legacy. According to this principle, = if a legacy application is executed, it should experience the same = behavior as if it would have been executed with a legacy IP stack and = legacy network. The problem is however, that the behavior of the network = in terms of IP address type allocation is not = define.

 =

So I am = thinking of changing the text from =A8C =

"New = IP stacks must continue to support all legacy operations. If = an

application= does not use On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP = stack

must = respond in a legacy manner.

 =

If the = network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility = feature,

the IP = stack may still request specific types of source IP = address

transparent= ly to legacy applications. This may be useful = for

environment= s in which both legacy and new applications are = executed.

 =

The = definition of what type of addresses to request and how they = are

assigned = to legacy applications are outside of the scope of = this

specificati= on."

 =

To (the = red text is new, the = strikethrough text will be deleted)=A8C =

" New = IP stacks must continue to support all legacy operations. If = an

application= does not use On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP = stack

must = respond in a legacy manner.

 =

If the = network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility = feature,

the IP = stack should act according to the application = request: If the

a= pplication requests a specific address type, the stack should forward = =

t= his request to the network. If the application does not request a = specific =

a= ddress type, the IP stack must not request an address type and leave = =

i= t to the network's default behavior to choose the type of the allocated = =

I= P address. If an address was already allocated to the host, the IP stack = =

s= hould use this address and not request a new one from the = network.=

may still = request specific types of source IP address=

transparent= ly to legacy applications. This may be useful for=

environment= s in which both legacy and new applications are = executed.=

 =

The = definition of what type of addresses to request and how they = are=

assigned = to legacy applications are outside of the scope of this=

specificati= on."=

 =

Is that = OK?

 =

Thanks,

  = ;            =   /Danny

 =

-----Origin= al Message-----
From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Seil Jeon
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:52
To: dmm@ietf.org
Cc: '"=C1=F5=B4=F3=C5=F4(=C5=F4=B3=C9)"'Subject: Re: [DMM] WGLC #2 for = draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05

 =

Hi,

 =

I have = read and checked the updates in -03 = version.

And I = support this draft to move forward, if the following is clearly = resolved.

 =

 =

"4.2. = IP Stack in the Mobile Host

 =

...

 =

 =

If the = network infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP stack = may still request specific types of source IP address  = transparently to legacy = applications."

 =

 =

As this = draft is based on the application-driven API selection idea, if no = explicit request is given by an application, the type should be selected = by default, though the default behavior could be regulated by the = network operator. My comment is putting "based on a default = havior" in a proper place in the sentence would be exact, leaving = no misunderstanding as if the IP stack has the selection capability of = source IP address type, instead of the = application.

 =

One minor = comment is [I-D.ietf-dmm-requirements] in the reference should be = replaced by RFC7333.

 =

 =

Regards,

Seil = Jeon

 =

 =

-----Origin= al Message-----

From: dmm = [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Jouni

Sent: = Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:16 AM

=

Cc: = "=C1=F5=B4=F3=C5=F4(=C5=F4=B3=C9)"

Subject: = [DMM] WGLC #2 for = draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05

 =

Folks,=

 =

This email = starts the WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05. Post your = comment to the mailing list and also add your issues/correction = requests/concerns etc into the Issue = Tracker.

 =

  = ; WGLC #2 Starts: 6/15/2016

  = ; WGLC #2 Ends: 6/29/2016 EOB PDT

 =

Regards,

  = ; Jouni & Dapeng

___________= ____________________________________

dmm = mailing list

=

 =

___________= ____________________________________

dmm = mailing list

=

 =

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Isn't the text clear enou= gh without this addition.

Let me think about this a= little more.

 <= /p>

Thanks,=

    &= nbsp;           /Danny

 <= /p>

From: Seil Jeon [mailto:seiljeon@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 11:21
To: Moses, Danny
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05

 

Hi Danny,

 

It aims to clarify what order the IP st= ack should follow among the cases; when an application does/doesn=A1=AFt specify its requested type.

 

Regards,

Seil Jeon

 

From: Moses,= Danny [mailto:danny.moses@intel.c= om]
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 4:44 PM
To: Seil Jeon
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05

 

Hi Seil,

 <= /p>

Thanks for the correction= .

The only fix I did not un= derstand is the addition of 'by priority'. The rest of the fixes are fine.<= o:p>

 <= /p>

I will wait a couple of d= ays to let additional people respond, and release a new version towards the= end of this week.

 <= /p>

    &= nbsp;           /Danny

 <= /p>

From: Seil Jeo= n [mailto:seiljeon@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 13:33
To: Moses, Danny
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05

 

Hi Danny,<= /o:p>

 

Thanks for your= revision. I mostly agree with your texts. But I put my small revision on y= our texts.

For the last se= ntence, I hope we leave some spaces for any enhancement.<= /p>

 

If the network = infrastructure supports On-Demand Mobility feature,

the IP stack should act according to follow the applica= tion request by priority; If the  application requ= ests a specific address type, the stack should forward  this request t= o the network. If the application does not request a specific  address= type, the IP stack must not request an address type and leave  it to the network's default behavior to choose the type of= the allocated  IP address. If an IP address was already allocated to the ho= st, the IP stack should uses this addre= ss and may not request a new ine one from the network.

 

Regards,

Seil Jeon

 

From: Moses,= Danny [mailto:danny.moses@intel.c= om]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 7:06 PM
To: Seil Jeon; dmm@ietf.org
Cc: '"???(??)"'
Subject: RE: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for the support.

 

I agree with your comment; the text mig= ht be misleading.

The general principle is to maintain th= e old behavior (prior to OnDemand support) when one entity is  legacy.= According to this principle, if a legacy application is executed, it should experience the same behavior as if it would have been executed w= ith a legacy IP stack and legacy network. The problem is however, that the = behavior of the network in terms of IP address type allocation is not defin= e.

 

So I am thinking of changing the text f= rom =A8C

"New IP stacks must continue to su= pport all legacy operations. If an

application does not use On-Demand Mobi= lity feature, the IP stack

must respond in a legacy manner.

 

If the network infrastructure supports = On-Demand Mobility feature,

the IP stack may still request specific= types of source IP address

transparently to legacy applications. T= his may be useful for

environments in which both legacy and n= ew applications are executed.

 

The definition of what type of addresse= s to request and how they are

assigned to legacy applications are out= side of the scope of this

specification."<= /p>

 

To (the red text is new, the strikethrough = text will be deleted)=A8C

" New IP stacks must continue to s= upport all legacy operations. If an

application does not use On-Demand Mobi= lity feature, the IP stack

must respond in a legacy manner.

 

If the network infrastructure supports = On-Demand Mobility feature,

the IP stack should act according to the application request: = If the

application requests a specif= ic address type, the stack should forward

this request to the network. = If the application does not request a specific

address type, the IP stack mu= st not request an address type and leave

it to the network's default b= ehavior to choose the type of the allocated

IP address. If an address was= already allocated to the host, the IP stack

should use this address and n= ot request a new one from the network.

may still request specific types of = source IP address

transparently to legacy applications= . This may be useful for

environments in which both legacy an= d new applications are executed.<= /p>

 

The definition of what type of addre= sses to request and how they are<= /p>

assigned to legacy applications are = outside of the scope of this

specification."

 

Is that OK?

 

Thanks,

      &nb= sp;         /Danny

 

-----Original Message-----
From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.= org] On Behalf Of Seil Jeon
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:52
To: dmm@ietf.org
Cc: '"=C1=F5=B4=F3=C5=F4(=C5=F4=B3= =C9)"'
Subject: Re: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05

 

Hi,

 

I have read and checked the updates in = -03 version.

And I support this draft to move forwar= d, if the following is clearly resolved.

 

 

"4.2. IP Stack in the Mobile Host<= o:p>

 

...

 

 

If the network infrastructure supports = On-Demand Mobility feature, the IP stack may still request specific types o= f source IP address  transparently to legacy applications."<= /o:p>

 

 

As this draft is based on the applicati= on-driven API selection idea, if no explicit request is given by an applica= tion, the type should be selected by default, though the default behavior could be regulated by the network operator. My comment is= putting "based on a default havior" in a proper place in the sen= tence would be exact, leaving no misunderstanding as if the IP stack has th= e selection capability of source IP address type, instead of the application.

 

One minor comment is [I-D.ietf-dmm-requ= irements] in the reference should be replaced by RFC7333.=

 

 

Regards,

Seil Jeon

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jouni<= /span>

Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:16 AM

Cc: "=C1=F5=B4=F3=C5= =F4(=C5=F4=B3=C9)"<= /span>

Subject: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-d= mm-ondemand-mobility-05

 

Folks,

 

This email starts the WGLC #2 for draft= -ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05. Post your comment to the mailing list and a= lso add your issues/correction requests/concerns etc into the Issue Tracker.

 

   WGLC #2 Starts: 6/15/2016<= o:p>

   WGLC #2 Ends: 6/29/2016 EO= B PDT

 

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   Jouni & Dapeng

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Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:52:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet2.intra.cea.fr (muguet2.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.7]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1580A20261D for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:52:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.8.34.184] (is227335.intra.cea.fr [10.8.34.184]) by muguet2.intra.cea.fr (8.15.2/8.15.2/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.4) with ESMTP id u5TEpHXR020088 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:51:18 +0200 To: dmm@ietf.org References: From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: <3de6ea43-ff8b-6611-c204-1e5912f2b239@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:51:17 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05 X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:51:25 -0000 Hi, I support this draft but I have some comments. The draft reads in some places as this were an IPv4 draft. As opposed to IPv4 in IPv6 rarely if ever the network assigns an address to a terminal. In IPv6 most of the times the network advertises a prefix on a link. Rarely if ever (DHCPv6 is rarely used) is the host requesting an address from the network; and I am not talking of requesting a particular kind of address. So, if the host rarely if ever requests an address, it's hard to assimilate that it's easy to request a particular address type. As such it's hard to say: > - Fixed IP Address > > A Fixed IP address is an address assigned to the mobile host by the > network with a guarantee to be valid for a very long time, Another comment is about this paragraph: > At any point in time, a mobile host may have a combination of IP > addresses configured. Zero or more Non-persistent, zero or more > Session-lasting, and zero or more Fixed IP addresses may be > configured on the IP stack of the host. The combination may be as a > result of the host policy, application demand, or a mix of the two. YEs, but never will a mobile host have zero IPv6 addresses configured. Even if the network does not advertise a prefix towards it, and even if DHCPv6 is not active, the mobile host will always self-form an IPv6 link-local address. > In case an application requests one, the IP stack shall make an > attempt to configure one by issuing a request to the network. I can agree the host's IP stack can issue a request to the network. But I dont know what kind of request is that? DHCPv6 request? ICMPv6 Router Solicitation? > It is outside of the scope of this specification to define how the > host requests a specific type of address (Fixed, Session-lasting or > Non-persistent) and how the network indicates the type of address in > its advertisement of addresses (or in its reply to an address > request). But this is contradictory to the above. You are saying that the IP stack 'shall' make an attempt, and at the same time you dont tell how to make that attempt. > The following are matters of policy, which may be dictated by the > host itself, the network operator, or the system architecture > standard: > > - The initial set of IP addresses configured on the host at the boot > time. Do you mean something like this: address A is preconfigured on the host as session-lasting, and address B is pre-configured as fixed? > - Permission to grant various types of IP addresses to a requesting > application. I dont understnad this? Who grants to whom? > - Determination of a default address type when an application does > not make any explicit indication, whether it already supports the > required API or it is just a legacy application. I understand this and it can make sense. But none of these 3 policy tools give the host a means to make a request to the network. Each of the 3 tools is a local tool - is the intent of the draft to have an entirely local decision making algorithm? (no message exchange). Alex Le 15/06/2016 à 19:16, Jouni a écrit : > Folks, > > This email starts the WGLC #2 for > draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05. 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Support

From: dmm <dmm-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Satoru Matsush= ima <satoru.matsushima@gm= ail.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 12:= 20 AM
To: Jouni <jouni.nospam@gmail.com>
Cc: "=C1=F5=B4=F3=C5=F4(=C5=F4= =B3=C9)" <max.ldp@alibab= a-inc.com>, dmm <dmm@ietf.org= >
Subject: Re: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draf= t-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05

Support.

Regards,
--satoru

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Jouni <jo= uni.nospam@gmail.com> wrote:
Folks,

This email starts the WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05. Post= your comment to the mailing list and also add your issues/correction reque= sts/concerns etc into the Issue Tracker.

   WGLC #2 Starts: 6/15/2016
   WGLC #2 Ends: 6/29/2016 EOB PDT

Regards,
   Jouni & Dapeng
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It seems like the authors or Danny changed "sustained IP address" to "session lasting IP address". It sounds a bit better. However, my concerns about sustained IP address remain the same on the session lasting IP address because semantically they mean the same thing, the session lasting is just a more flashy name. I really don't understand how in the world this draft became a WG draft in the first place. Given that, my suggestion is to finish up this work by changing it to Informational. I don't believe it is implementable. This draft is also not the type of draft dmm should be working on, dmm I think is a continuation of MIP related mobility WGs and this draft has nothing to do with this. Make it Informational, folks. Behcet From nobody Wed Jun 29 13:03:16 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAC012D50D for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:03:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FrYOieaaKtIV for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pf0-x231.google.com (mail-pf0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71F2512B00D for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pf0-x231.google.com with SMTP id i123so21253467pfg.0 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:03:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=reply-to:subject:references:to:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yhZ2625CPAR2N6UNMCV+T5CEk2Lt5C4tD8MGl/94MEY=; b=JiU+xGJuf+UKR3U9rHDgxH/U3hjxZmn/vRes3/aRfgMka+letP0l7QQM2ieSy/7GP9 54AUh9NRmS/yzjmjjpdHurOeLOir/eTwqAc4sR4vJxxkBm50/PiUzAiHhFxb/E0BgVM8 wmKck26L4T0OgAybRzojnFkfbUy8RaAO8So3mXbhe4eHox8a7NmW8YHejH/QO44+gGTJ IcPJ8I2UjexoE/YKMRJMvtrmnFbB/z1WPH+QvdRQY9GbPgioaJY0oBN1Oz3aZKgxyPTy 3pA1nFqsTlB72R83OD6mC7k45TSRbYe0yB1e40uZxuW0bm/BEZJs33J60JBKdF06zTWU pv5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:reply-to:subject:references:to:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yhZ2625CPAR2N6UNMCV+T5CEk2Lt5C4tD8MGl/94MEY=; b=Q9tneR7YrCLfL2lpOMv+NG2n/8Pqpi+WRNQzgUHiyfHFqYeYcdeVLROMApsYgX3/hM AnnS3oGVmvTiB7Ad7hxJCxydOLD8zXou8yjsTBb4gQ1xHIOMWLYev9DBNOHJc4iISLZI hz04nFBOtiG4jk2wunc0a8cv+qAbA9+dOkGqDdqmHf/R7oAZtivMYZGgHzxuaxi27/+l OhL6TFPq42TvWUYXLyRyWJ3mikiVRwmrJNdXNUJ6HwON04+qdtDbnIv3t+ZJLIlzslZZ nos7hBJ5vyF6XCsoTWrIDcJg9y/GdCkIC1VAmv+5eJzcqKlhBQoFstVBBcrkMJ0Ih50z XCSg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tL+czjY2ATg8SL5P4SQZKXxWRUpca2DkK5Ne24wDI1Kf9AukJDY3T0DHjUlArRpOg== X-Received: by 10.98.19.133 with SMTP id 5mr14936277pft.17.1467230592803; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.16.75.6] ([216.31.219.19]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 6sm7908548pfx.68.2016.06.29.13.03.11 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:03:11 -0700 (PDT) References: To: sarikaya@ieee.org, "dmm@ietf.org" From: Jouni Korhonen Message-ID: <8d50f470-c4c0-4cc2-0485-a3a3de74b807@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:03:09 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [DMM] draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05 X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: jouni.nospam@gmail.com List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 20:03:15 -0000 Lo and behold your cry for intended status change will happen! Actually, this came up earlier because 1) the I-D makes a normative referecence to an informational RFC5014 and 2) API documents are informational in general. It just did not make to the latest revision.. - JOuni 6/29/2016, 9:07 AM, Behcet Sarikaya kirjoitti: > Hi all, > > I quickly looked at this draft. > It seems like the authors or Danny changed "sustained IP address" to > "session lasting IP address". It sounds a bit better. > However, my concerns about sustained IP address remain the same on the > session lasting IP address because semantically they mean the same > thing, the session lasting is just a more flashy name. > > I really don't understand how in the world this draft became a WG > draft in the first place. Given that, my suggestion is to finish up > this work by changing it to Informational. I don't believe it is > implementable. > > This draft is also not the type of draft dmm should be working on, dmm > I think is a continuation of MIP related mobility WGs and this draft > has nothing to do with this. > > Make it Informational, folks. > > Behcet > > _______________________________________________ > dmm mailing list > dmm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm > From nobody Wed Jun 29 13:12:30 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CA212D69A for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:12:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9urQzzbXJW1Z for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vk0-x230.google.com (mail-vk0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7EB9F12D6B5 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vk0-x230.google.com with SMTP id m127so21830388vkb.3 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:12:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=dLMd/K+EGVD/cd7u1qImguYZUP8hoXPCCtqdRMoNAa8=; b=SXc7qpQSJubZuZ0Jf2HJtKxSyKxg5ihjSpQZh2QekqOdM+DDKuxpHSbkNJzretBys+ ZFMhw9ZKzsEX5WhGiBAsWdanvJU1w2ROKI/lysgW5MfpqCz3eS99nxRC3IXzLlHcWSBs B17+0iAyZut81WZguy13aqcuoi2No8MN79Xq6wwCQtgONfdmeEYSCe3wrb4f7y1daJyK p8lQugElXDTJ4m1DlpxL1RsAlpv4zsybasG4ElaEmXVq8iElXUPkEw9nt2SMRdNDSE40 60yIDJp4yyhw5e0xtSKA0CNYGWayOFpAZcyIszUyDAzbY8cQRjhIbApMsyoBF3GeLr3l oevg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=dLMd/K+EGVD/cd7u1qImguYZUP8hoXPCCtqdRMoNAa8=; b=KnWazfs678yC6A2vr/udTNvGd9qn8HGVzcJq8S66tJ/aEoHMaT/DfUUEefS1svxzyM 9fHAieSfrAal6s2ci8U+oSLh/Y9j1CmNjAILEH9yTUK8kz5OW63fsSauVWxMI/BqXmJ8 zzKleXUH7I4jxZacmXvU9Wt3G2HrDxEvkqwntmI+xDGOT9EiEj8Dek8S1wcrO4RqQ9Wx RhLGJX7Ad2oAeIz3IlBPnJ5HFjIv+53I6I8llss7wry6nQ2u0SDTlPJh6P3VEcO/4pP4 nXfY7XF+pfHSZ28qGdg5TAcNb9YpMib4vG0tiKHrpYY9HHoyG1tKqFPt02MMk5rOlRU5 o3DQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLGzExZzycza/GzHPCFtdujgE1vntTu7bAMaRh6Fx9kJlZGrAYDIQlK0WBcGtwQNZlaKlInWIzcviI4fQ== X-Received: by 10.159.38.108 with SMTP id 99mr4865850uag.27.1467231142599; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:12:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.2.168 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:12:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8d50f470-c4c0-4cc2-0485-a3a3de74b807@gmail.com> References: <8d50f470-c4c0-4cc2-0485-a3a3de74b807@gmail.com> From: Behcet Sarikaya Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:12:21 -0500 Message-ID: To: jouni korhonen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: Cc: "dmm@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [DMM] draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05 X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: sarikaya@ieee.org List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 20:12:29 -0000 On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Jouni Korhonen wrote: > Lo and behold your cry for intended status change will happen! > Lo I just now checked it. I could not see any API development in dmm charter. Aren't you responsible for this? Regards, Behcet > Actually, this came up earlier because 1) the I-D makes a normative > referecence to an informational RFC5014 and 2) API documents are > informational in general. It just did not make to the latest revision.. > > - JOuni > > > 6/29/2016, 9:07 AM, Behcet Sarikaya kirjoitti: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I quickly looked at this draft. >> It seems like the authors or Danny changed "sustained IP address" to >> "session lasting IP address". It sounds a bit better. >> However, my concerns about sustained IP address remain the same on the >> session lasting IP address because semantically they mean the same >> thing, the session lasting is just a more flashy name. >> >> I really don't understand how in the world this draft became a WG >> draft in the first place. Given that, my suggestion is to finish up >> this work by changing it to Informational. I don't believe it is >> implementable. >> >> This draft is also not the type of draft dmm should be working on, dmm >> I think is a continuation of MIP related mobility WGs and this draft >> has nothing to do with this. >> >> Make it Informational, folks. >> >> Behcet >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dmm mailing list >> dmm@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm >> > From nobody Wed Jun 29 14:04:29 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7406E12D7F6 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:04:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rb-x1V7J6v-3 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pf0-x22f.google.com (mail-pf0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A16D112D7B5 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pf0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id c2so21704551pfa.2 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:04:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=reply-to:subject:references:to:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7Yz8IxTrBBec7miWohRc00HLbYlc9o1vzfbMnQMk+M8=; b=vD7jHnfJUety78ObOQCuI3lhl7lbkZ1ZkZKehGd0b5ds+TFO8D/vLheftvH0TnG6W1 l3L2XD1myueRKeAO7Tiyz3qVYGXGO5r+Q5169lq8M2Ah3Tkxb8guI18guMKvhi9YgAfU EeWck+g02uHbQN33BRY8cFH5b/199aAGFicUJdQkGjhzm5jOLNkzuKL23cOcf0hrkUEX /y8G8wjVyyq7yPU++l8+EuqKwGdXaC4VkkSvZ2dUZtjBcljMYr7XNkPrFSCfef3KGkc7 NoZKqZn/JUJpU7QkYEz4mtO/tfKrVNQfMXJscttiwc4TeF0UbHCO8GcKPVw3vw+iaI/f wf9A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:reply-to:subject:references:to:cc:from :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7Yz8IxTrBBec7miWohRc00HLbYlc9o1vzfbMnQMk+M8=; b=c+jOEXPT7FjtgWLs3Om5iX4xFpOsnejgZIGxiH2mP1SH6hcnujjRpiIPSgFcL0yyHg STmDrRusnWw0GJSJxIHmv6USnb6u6GvMfoFwRJDz/GFpkWAhVy+AorB4uYBBPZNC/+nZ IhzGXTBLhsGsXVUYoWSCAi01Ypelg9tnRDUuet/3s1w4vRrZG6JyfvTy6ceoQUYO6Brb lYLemw/WcqCHECw9fS1rFRuJHupIVHMp9AhP/kqjAb3BfUd/74w0PM5MCtwWRAVh0+nl 8gWGMltqZuJGBuVCHUfuHrxjb6NlvhPTaUey1uiO+6GzaTzyVSbBGOGJfEBfEbWvLvl4 yIVg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJ72i3EFWnpteFCbRd0irHFq4Z5cWs7qVmuW3xRe2337adj/ODm9LoxcXTEVDJo1g== X-Received: by 10.98.9.68 with SMTP id e65mr15339227pfd.121.1467234262957; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.16.75.6] ([216.31.219.19]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id z189sm136662pfb.34.2016.06.29.14.04.21 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:04:22 -0700 (PDT) References: <8d50f470-c4c0-4cc2-0485-a3a3de74b807@gmail.com> To: sarikaya@ieee.org From: Jouni Korhonen Message-ID: <4f87c324-bb68-2123-2335-a0105556057b@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:04:19 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "dmm@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [DMM] draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05 X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: jouni.nospam@gmail.com List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 21:04:28 -0000 o Exposing mobility state to mobile nodes and network nodes: define solutions that allow, for example, mobile nodes to select either a care-of address or a home address depending on an application' mobility needs. In order to enable this To me it is there.. functionality, the network-side control functions and other networking nodes must also be able to exchange appropriate control information, as well as to the mobile nodes and their applications. And again here. If apps or mobile node need to be able to select appropriate address I find it ok to describe it.. call it api or not in the charter. - Jouni 6/29/2016, 1:12 PM, Behcet Sarikaya kirjoitti: > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Jouni Korhonen wrote: >> Lo and behold your cry for intended status change will happen! >> > > > Lo I just now checked it. > I could not see any API development in dmm charter. > > Aren't you responsible for this? > > Regards, > > Behcet >> Actually, this came up earlier because 1) the I-D makes a normative >> referecence to an informational RFC5014 and 2) API documents are >> informational in general. It just did not make to the latest revision.. >> > > >> - JOuni >> >> >> 6/29/2016, 9:07 AM, Behcet Sarikaya kirjoitti: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I quickly looked at this draft. >>> It seems like the authors or Danny changed "sustained IP address" to >>> "session lasting IP address". It sounds a bit better. >>> However, my concerns about sustained IP address remain the same on the >>> session lasting IP address because semantically they mean the same >>> thing, the session lasting is just a more flashy name. >>> >>> I really don't understand how in the world this draft became a WG >>> draft in the first place. Given that, my suggestion is to finish up >>> this work by changing it to Informational. I don't believe it is >>> implementable. >>> >>> This draft is also not the type of draft dmm should be working on, dmm >>> I think is a continuation of MIP related mobility WGs and this draft >>> has nothing to do with this. >>> >>> Make it Informational, folks. >>> >>> Behcet >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dmm mailing list >>> dmm@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm >>> >> From nobody Wed Jun 29 14:46:55 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4582012D7FB for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:46:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tWqJzluPmEle for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pa0-x235.google.com (mail-pa0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B154312D541 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pa0-x235.google.com with SMTP id hl6so21212345pac.2 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:46:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=reply-to:to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hGoTN2AI8ARmIT58tU1mH5YzX+QQvHOFH+Xak6P99oo=; b=GqPpIFn9xiXGDhCcT9WZz02PEBVfQSjlpmfOq0RgqYvO8NkHWVoMCYL7RzQhEwdD2+ FJsh7k7bGAbOGEKP5aSooXAOzCIt1oN/Cl3otF3b4KGs8ioJadg2IRipyBSmqu7g3eoO LTgdXz5H4jPF49xLd0khQ0nqBTU75ZQ5eC/y6gbEshnwEu1m3exF5OzU1bUkSjzWti2Z aCObGvYoPCJX22ClNwpqLsojgEk2IlxZLr9ZDhM4Ozrxkisv5UsI3dDIb/3iz/l+lIQz URp3iZK5vQyyMlaIql2FYutQRrXgs1+KhC8yOeQgD6nxDtXSnB/akk11qXXPtXqaPTq4 xg4Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:reply-to:to:from:subject:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hGoTN2AI8ARmIT58tU1mH5YzX+QQvHOFH+Xak6P99oo=; b=XQYN4I+fcYecuEr8GDyZCUXZikcbB5HXCcKckYBG7cD+aXIL4cwAtCGN5ZORB7dUre U/9T+EDkYeC5qFG1hIlM9vu0DT/U/H2+ckcaPlqtGEtDzNzivCKgZJdyT3PPkqltrTAa HD7wNeuORmDhYePJLKfqDqNHtqjkBd6iY9MWmRaVSHj8XsoxdcvDRa4IHThGVbL94gM4 CscVH1uB/7WaF6a/kPnEJ0KrW2cPLoZ/MLpQ7EQv7PNNjsG1dUEem9dn9LHrY/ASxZOi z539eFl7jY3z+PGgkjqfqQ9arMtY/U6FmB9mstHfOFEc2bsR0YFQb3fmMFYbMxMwfF50 n6Ng== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIDLUQ+AuOACS5b1zwJ93KdRRX1yPCcWJteuhTUly5bUBedrikeBYxN6ds3Su4Kzg== X-Received: by 10.66.65.109 with SMTP id w13mr15736485pas.142.1467236812281; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.16.75.6] ([216.31.219.19]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id c2sm166094paw.45.2016.06.29.14.46.51 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:46:51 -0700 (PDT) To: "dmm@ietf.org" , Jouni , =?UTF-8?B?5oiQIOm5jw==?= , "'Charles E. Perkins'" From: Jouni Korhonen Message-ID: <8e8f3d5a-4725-fc30-e045-be1aaa15ca86@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:46:46 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [DMM] WGLC #3 for draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids-02 X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: jouni.nospam@gmail.com List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 21:46:54 -0000 Folks, This email starts 2 week WGLC #3 for draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids-02. There has been quite a few editorial changes in the I-D. Please, send you comments, disapprovals and approvals to the mailing list. WGLC start: 6/29/2016 ends: 7/13/2016 EOB PDT - Dapeng and Jouni From nobody Wed Jun 29 19:22:29 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0A312D992 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 19:22:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.647 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.647 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5zE1SY4NpXVb for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 19:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14DED12D7DB for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 19:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml701-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id CMX30248; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 02:22:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEML432-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.209) by lhreml701-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.93) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 03:22:22 +0100 Received: from szxeml557-mbx.china.huawei.com ([169.254.5.250]) by szxeml432-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.67.209]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 10:22:16 +0800 From: h chan To: "dmm@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05 Thread-Index: AQHRxymrQTXpjC+5sUq8J9hqidU2N6AAFvGAgAEAhkA= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 02:22:15 +0000 Message-ID: <6E31144C030982429702B11D6746B98C766BD0A8@szxeml557-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <3de6ea43-ff8b-6611-c204-1e5912f2b239@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3de6ea43-ff8b-6611-c204-1e5912f2b239@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.156.159] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A020204.5774825F.00A3, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.5.250, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 7d182ae1ed160924225edacb93bdf06e Archived-At: Subject: Re: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05 X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 02:22:28 -0000 support H Anthony Chan -----Original Message----- From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexandre Petrescu Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 9:51 AM To: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05 Hi, I support this draft but I have some comments. The draft reads in some places as this were an IPv4 draft. As opposed to IPv4 in IPv6 rarely if ever the network assigns an address to= a terminal. In IPv6 most of the times the network advertises a prefix on a link.=20 Rarely if ever (DHCPv6 is rarely used) is the host requesting an address fr= om the network; and I am not talking of requesting a particular kind of add= ress. So, if the host rarely if ever requests an address, it's hard to assimilate= that it's easy to request a particular address type. As such it's hard to say: > - Fixed IP Address > > A Fixed IP address is an address assigned to the mobile host by the=20 > network with a guarantee to be valid for a very long time, Another comment is about this paragraph: > At any point in time, a mobile host may have a combination of IP=20 > addresses configured. Zero or more Non-persistent, zero or more=20 > Session-lasting, and zero or more Fixed IP addresses may be configured=20 > on the IP stack of the host. The combination may be as a result of=20 > the host policy, application demand, or a mix of the two. YEs, but never will a mobile host have zero IPv6 addresses configured. Even if the network does not advertise a prefix towards it, and even if DHCPv6 is not active, the mobile host will always self-form an IPv6 link-lo= cal address. > In case an application requests one, the IP stack shall make an=20 > attempt to configure one by issuing a request to the network. I can agree the host's IP stack can issue a request to the network. But I = dont know what kind of request is that? DHCPv6 request? ICMPv6 Router Sol= icitation? > It is outside of the scope of this specification to define how the > host requests a specific type of address (Fixed, Session-lasting or > Non-persistent) and how the network indicates the type of address in > its advertisement of addresses (or in its reply to an address > request). But this is contradictory to the above. You are saying that the IP stack 'shall' make an attempt, and at the same t= ime you dont tell how to make that attempt. > The following are matters of policy, which may be dictated by the > host itself, the network operator, or the system architecture > standard: > > - The initial set of IP addresses configured on the host at the boot > time. Do you mean something like this: address A is preconfigured on the host as = session-lasting, and address B is pre-configured as fixed? > - Permission to grant various types of IP addresses to a requesting > application. I dont understnad this? Who grants to whom? > - Determination of a default address type when an application does > not make any explicit indication, whether it already supports the > required API or it is just a legacy application. I understand this and it can make sense. But none of these 3 policy tools give the host a means to make a request to= the network. Each of the 3 tools is a local tool - is the intent of the = draft to have an entirely local decision making algorithm? (no message exc= hange). Alex Le 15/06/2016 =E0 19:16, Jouni a =E9crit : > Folks, > > This email starts the WGLC #2 for > draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-05. Post your comment to the mailing=20 > list and also add your issues/correction requests/concerns etc into=20 > the Issue Tracker. > > WGLC #2 Starts: 6/15/2016 WGLC #2 Ends: 6/29/2016 EOB PDT > > Regards, Jouni & Dapeng > _______________________________________________ dmm mailing list=20 > dmm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm > _______________________________________________ dmm mailing list dmm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm From nobody Thu Jun 30 02:14:28 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietf.org Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4574012D624; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 02:14:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.25.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160630091423.29518.83637.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 02:14:23 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: [DMM] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-06.txt X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:14:23 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Distributed Mobility Management of the IETF. Title : On Demand Mobility Management Authors : Alper Yegin Danny Moses Kisuk Kweon Jinsung Lee Jungshin Park Filename : draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-06.txt Pages : 12 Date : 2016-06-30 Abstract: Applications differ with respect to whether they need IP session continuity and/or IP address reachability. The network providing the same type of service to any mobile host and any application running on the host yields inefficiencies. This document describes a solution for taking the application needs into account in selectively providing IP session continuity and IP address reachability on a per- socket basis. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Jun 30 02:20:41 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350C012D9DD for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 02:20:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.346 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.346 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4Z4FqTt8vQIQ for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 02:20:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mga14.intel.com (mga14.intel.com [192.55.52.115]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75C712D1B3 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 02:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orsmga002.jf.intel.com ([10.7.209.21]) by fmsmga103.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 30 Jun 2016 02:20:36 -0700 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.26,551,1459839600"; d="scan'208,217";a="1008083713" Received: from fmsmsx105.amr.corp.intel.com ([10.18.124.203]) by orsmga002.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 30 Jun 2016 02:20:36 -0700 Received: from fmsmsx156.amr.corp.intel.com (10.18.116.74) by FMSMSX105.amr.corp.intel.com (10.18.124.203) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.248.2; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 02:20:36 -0700 Received: from lcsmsx154.ger.corp.intel.com (10.186.165.229) by fmsmsx156.amr.corp.intel.com (10.18.116.74) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.248.2; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 02:20:35 -0700 Received: from hasmsx106.ger.corp.intel.com ([169.254.2.170]) by LCSMSX154.ger.corp.intel.com ([169.254.7.195]) with mapi id 14.03.0248.002; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 12:20:33 +0300 From: "Moses, Danny" To: "dmm@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: New version of the OnDemand Mobility draft Thread-Index: AdHSsKYQjW36fRPARwensXbXrurx2g== Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:20:31 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ctpclassification: CTP_IC x-titus-metadata-40: eyJDYXRlZ29yeUxhYmVscyI6IiIsIk1ldGFkYXRhIjp7Im5zIjoiaHR0cDpcL1wvd3d3LnRpdHVzLmNvbVwvbnNcL0ludGVsMyIsImlkIjoiMjY1MjNmNTAtODc3MC00NzMxLTg1N2EtMGRjMDliNzY2MGMyIiwicHJvcHMiOlt7Im4iOiJDVFBDbGFzc2lmaWNhdGlvbiIsInZhbHMiOlt7InZhbHVlIjoiQ1RQX0lDIn1dfV19LCJTdWJqZWN0TGFiZWxzIjpbXSwiVE1DVmVyc2lvbiI6IjE1LjkuNi42IiwiVHJ1c3RlZExhYmVsSGFzaCI6Ikk0ZXNPQVVTYTZcL1lIeVkzcjdVVVlMVXhzWTZXR1wveHlcL0w1NWxIbzdHTnc9In0= x-originating-ip: [10.184.70.10] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F0CF5715D3D1884BAC731EA1103AC28134A379A5HASMSX106gercor_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [DMM] New version of the OnDemand Mobility draft X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:20:40 -0000 --_000_F0CF5715D3D1884BAC731EA1103AC28134A379A5HASMSX106gercor_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have posted a new version of the OnDemand Mobility draft: draft-ietf-dmm-= ondemand-mobility-06. This new version includes some text editing according to the comments from = Seil and change of classification from the Standard track to Informational. Please support it (those who have not cast their support yet). Thanks, /Danny --------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of the Intel Corporation group of companies This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. --_000_F0CF5715D3D1884BAC731EA1103AC28134A379A5HASMSX106gercor_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi,
 
I have posted a new version of the OnDemand Mobility draft: draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-06.
This new version includes some text editing according to the comments = from Seil and change of classification from the Standard track to Informati= onal.
 
Please support it (those who have not cast their support yet).
 
Thanks,
        /Danny
 

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In order to enable this > > To me it is there.. > > functionality, the network-side control functions and other > networking nodes must also be able to exchange appropriate > control information, as well as to the mobile nodes and their > applications. > > And again here. > > If apps or mobile node need to be able to select appropriate address I find > it ok to describe it.. call it api or not in the charter. > > - Jouni > Not to me. I don't see any API. The API RFC 5014 was done in 6man. mif WG used to do API. mif WG had clear items on API in its charter. Regards, Behcet > > > > 6/29/2016, 1:12 PM, Behcet Sarikaya kirjoitti: >> >> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Jouni Korhonen >> wrote: >>> >>> Lo and behold your cry for intended status change will happen! >>> >> >> >> Lo I just now checked it. >> I could not see any API development in dmm charter. >> >> Aren't you responsible for this? >> >> Regards, >> >> Behcet >>> >>> Actually, this came up earlier because 1) the I-D makes a normative >>> referecence to an informational RFC5014 and 2) API documents are >>> informational in general. It just did not make to the latest revision.. >>> >> >> >>> - JOuni >>> >>> >>> 6/29/2016, 9:07 AM, Behcet Sarikaya kirjoitti: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I quickly looked at this draft. >>>> It seems like the authors or Danny changed "sustained IP address" to >>>> "session lasting IP address". It sounds a bit better. >>>> However, my concerns about sustained IP address remain the same on the >>>> session lasting IP address because semantically they mean the same >>>> thing, the session lasting is just a more flashy name. >>>> >>>> I really don't understand how in the world this draft became a WG >>>> draft in the first place. Given that, my suggestion is to finish up >>>> this work by changing it to Informational. 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Regards, Seil Jeon -----Original Message----- From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jouni Korhonen Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 2:06 AM To: Seil Jeon; Alexandre Petrescu Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] New version of the OnDemand Mobility draft Seil, Alex, Have your concerns been addressed in the -06 revision? - Jouni 6/30/2016, 2:20 AM, Moses, Danny kirjoitti: > > Hi, > > I have posted a new version of the OnDemand Mobility draft: > _draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-06_ > . > This new version includes some text editing according to the comments > from Seil and change of classification from the Standard track to > Informational. > > Please support it (those who have not cast their support yet). > > Thanks, > /Danny > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > A member of the Intel Corporation group of companies > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for > the sole use of the intended recipient(s). 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u616eZba015921; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 08:40:35 +0200 To: jouni.nospam@gmail.com, Seil Jeon References: From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 08:40:35 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: "dmm@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [DMM] New version of the OnDemand Mobility draft X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 06:40:46 -0000 My concern is partially addressed, yes. There is still this text which can be improved: > - Session-lasting IP Address > > A session-lasting IP address is an address assigned to the mobile > host by the network [...] A session-lasting IP address is an address formed in conjunction by the host and the network (SLAAC), or assigned by the network (DHCP) [...] A session-lasting IP prefix is a prefix advertised to the mobile host by the network [...] Alex Le 30/06/2016 à 19:05, Jouni Korhonen a écrit : > Seil, Alex, > > Have your concerns been addressed in the -06 revision? > > - Jouni > > 6/30/2016, 2:20 AM, Moses, Danny kirjoitti: >> >> Hi, >> >> I have posted a new version of the OnDemand Mobility draft: >> _draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-06_ >> . >> This new version includes some text editing according to the comments >> from Seil and change of classification from the Standard track to >> Informational. >> >> Please support it (those who have not cast their support yet). >> >> Thanks, >> /Danny >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> A member of the Intel Corporation group of companies >> >> This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for >> the sole use of the intended recipient(s). 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