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Hi,

Please find my review comments for draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-00.

## Comments to Stateless Interworking

In general, I thought 5.4 and 6.3 could be combined or be more closer.
I think organization of the document would be changed a lot from various=20
feedback so just my 2 cents at this point.

 > 5.4.1. End.TM:
 >
 > 1. IF NH=3DSRH & SL > 0 THEN
 > 2. decrement SL
 > 3. update the IPv6 DA with SRH[SL]
 > 4. push header of TUN-PROTO with tunnel ID from S ;; Ref1
 > 5. push outer IPv4 header with SA, DA from S
 > 6. ELSE
 > 7. Drop the packet

5.4.1 doesn't mention about PSP (pop SRH from packet) which is described=20
in 6.3.2.
Do you expect any case where PSP would not happen for End.TM operation?
If so, that means End.TM would be used in other situation than described=20
in 6.3.2, so might be more clear if you can describe that case as well.

 > 5.4.2. T.Tmap: Transit behavior with tunnel decapsulation and mapping
 >
 > 4. insert the SRH (D, B; SL=3D1) ;; Ref2, Ref2bis

I assume D is end point node on public internet.
Since it's not defined, adding description what is D might make it more=20
clear.

 > 6.3.2 Downlink: SRv6 to Legacy Access
 > ...
 > SID is bound to the next segment of S::1 , the L3-anchor node
 > does T.Insert process for the receiving packet to push a SRH
 > with SID list <B2::, S::1> with SL=3D1, where "B2" which encodes

Maybe <B2::, S::1> should be <B2, S::1> Since B2 is Stateless=20
Interworking SID Encoding and not prefix?


 > The stateless interworking node of "B2" End.TM process for the
 > receiving packet according to the SRH. The node decrement SL
 > to 0, updates DA to "D::1" which the SL indicates, push IPv4
 > and tunnel headers with IPv4 DA, SA and TUN-ID extracted from
 > "B2", and forward the packet to the legacy network.

Since this is DL, shouldn't DA be "S::1" (MN) ?
My understanding is SA for DL is always D::1 which would not change=20
while travelling from L3 Anchor to B2.


 > 6.3.2. Downlink: SRv6 to Legacy Access
 >
 > In case of an L2-anchor node receives a packet destine to SID
 > "A2::B2" and the SID is bound to "B2", the L2-anchor node does
 > End.B6 process for the receiving packet as same as previous
 > section. The node updates DA to B2 and forward the packet.

I could not find description of case when L3-anchor add A2::B2 as DA.
Might be more clear if you can describe the format of A2::B2 and how to=20
generate B2 from A2::B2.


Also, it might be nice if you have matrix like below for 6.3 as similar=20
to the ones you have in 6.1 and 6.2.

+-----------------------------+--------+----------+
| User-plane Function | Uplink | Downlink |
+-----------------------------+--------+----------+
| stateless interworking node | T.Tmap | End.TM |
| L2-anchor | End.B6 | End.B6 |
| L3-anchor | End.T | T.Insert |
+-----------------------------+--------+----------+


## General Comments (not limited to stateless interworking)

1. Might overlap with comments from Charlie, but I also thought it was=20
difficult to find out where in the network S1, C1, A2::1, D::1, A1::1=20
etc. resides.
Diagram of overall network including above addresses with list of node=20
each address corresponds would be helpful.


2. Any reason Access Point UL and L3-anchor DL only use T.Insert and not=20
T.Encap?
Looks like it was intentionally removed in=20
draft-matsushima-spring-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-02, so sorry if it was=20
already discussed and clarified.
If there are any issue between Access Point and L3-anchor which router=20
reply ICMP, it would be destined to MN or End Point on public internet.
Since ICMP payload would have SRH which includes mobile network's=20
information, I was not sure if this is accepted for all operators.


3. It might be more clear to mention <S1, S2, S3> is a SID list where S1=20
is the first SID to visit and S3 is the last.
(Although it is mentioned in SRv6 Network Programming draft)


Thanks,
--
Kentaro Ebisawa @ Ponto Networks, Inc.
Work: <ebiken@pontonetworks.com> | Mailing Lists: <ebiken.g@gmail.com>


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Hi Ebisawa-san,

Thank you for your review. That=E2=80=99s helpful. Please see my =
comments in line:

> [...]

> ## Comments to Stateless Interworking
>=20
> In general, I thought 5.4 and 6.3 could be combined or be more closer.
> I think organization of the document would be changed a lot from =
various feedback so just my 2 cents at this point.

My intention was at first to introduce all user-plane functions followed =
by use cases.
There=E2=80=99s space to improve document structure which I agree.=20


>=20
> > 5.4.1. End.TM:
> >
> > 1. IF NH=3DSRH & SL > 0 THEN
> > 2. decrement SL
> > 3. update the IPv6 DA with SRH[SL]
> > 4. push header of TUN-PROTO with tunnel ID from S ;; Ref1
> > 5. push outer IPv4 header with SA, DA from S
> > 6. ELSE
> > 7. Drop the packet
>=20
> 5.4.1 doesn't mention about PSP (pop SRH from packet) which is =
described in 6.3.2.
> Do you expect any case where PSP would not happen for End.TM =
operation?
> If so, that means End.TM would be used in other situation than =
described in 6.3.2, so might be more clear if you can describe that case =
as well.

Right. I agree that PSP should be expected in this case. Thanks.


>=20
> > 5.4.2. T.Tmap: Transit behavior with tunnel decapsulation and =
mapping
> >
> > 4. insert the SRH (D, B; SL=3D1) ;; Ref2, Ref2bis
>=20
> I assume D is end point node on public internet.
> Since it's not defined, adding description what is D might make it =
more clear.
>=20
> > 6.3.2 Downlink: SRv6 to Legacy Access
> > ...
> > SID is bound to the next segment of S::1 , the L3-anchor node
> > does T.Insert process for the receiving packet to push a SRH
> > with SID list <B2::, S::1> with SL=3D1, where "B2" which encodes
>=20
> Maybe <B2::, S::1> should be <B2, S::1> Since B2 is Stateless =
Interworking SID Encoding and not prefix?

Yes, correct. I=E2=80=99ll do fix it with appropriate diagram which =
Charlie pointed out.

>=20
>=20
> > The stateless interworking node of "B2" End.TM process for the
> > receiving packet according to the SRH. The node decrement SL
> > to 0, updates DA to "D::1" which the SL indicates, push IPv4
> > and tunnel headers with IPv4 DA, SA and TUN-ID extracted from
> > "B2", and forward the packet to the legacy network.
>=20
> Since this is DL, shouldn't DA be "S::1" (MN) ?
> My understanding is SA for DL is always D::1 which would not change =
while travelling from L3 Anchor to B2.

Yes, you=E2=80=99re right. Will fix it as well.

>=20
>=20
> > 6.3.2. Downlink: SRv6 to Legacy Access
> >
> > In case of an L2-anchor node receives a packet destine to SID
> > "A2::B2" and the SID is bound to "B2", the L2-anchor node does
> > End.B6 process for the receiving packet as same as previous
> > section. The node updates DA to B2 and forward the packet.
>=20
> I could not find description of case when L3-anchor add A2::B2 as DA.
> Might be more clear if you can describe the format of A2::B2 and how =
to generate B2 from A2::B2.

It doesn=E2=80=99t intend that A2::B2 derives B2 but in this case where =
an L2-anchor exists in between L3-anchor and stateless interworking =
functions, the L2-anchor binds A2::B2 to B2. I think that some diagram =
and clear notation would help to describe it.


>=20
>=20
> Also, it might be nice if you have matrix like below for 6.3 as =
similar to the ones you have in 6.1 and 6.2.
>=20
> +-----------------------------+--------+----------+
> | User-plane Function | Uplink | Downlink |
> +-----------------------------+--------+----------+
> | stateless interworking node | T.Tmap | End.TM |
> | L2-anchor | End.B6 | End.B6 |
> | L3-anchor | End.T | T.Insert |
> +-----------------------------+--------+----------+
>=20
>=20

Yes, I agree.=20

Following generic comments will also be taken into account in a next =
version. Thanks.

Cheers,
--satoru


> ## General Comments (not limited to stateless interworking)
>=20
> 1. Might overlap with comments from Charlie, but I also thought it was =
difficult to find out where in the network S1, C1, A2::1, D::1, A1::1 =
etc. resides.
> Diagram of overall network including above addresses with list of node =
each address corresponds would be helpful.
>=20
>=20
> 2. Any reason Access Point UL and L3-anchor DL only use T.Insert and =
not T.Encap?
> Looks like it was intentionally removed in =
draft-matsushima-spring-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-02, so sorry if it was =
already discussed and clarified.
> If there are any issue between Access Point and L3-anchor which router =
reply ICMP, it would be destined to MN or End Point on public internet.
> Since ICMP payload would have SRH which includes mobile network's =
information, I was not sure if this is accepted for all operators.
>=20
>=20
> 3. It might be more clear to mention <S1, S2, S3> is a SID list where =
S1 is the first SID to visit and S3 is the last.
> (Although it is mentioned in SRv6 Network Programming draft)
>=20
>=20
> Thanks,
> --
> Kentaro Ebisawa @ Ponto Networks, Inc.
> Work: <ebiken@pontonetworks.com> | Mailing Lists: <ebiken.g@gmail.com>
>=20


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Hi Satoru,

Thanks for the answers to my comments.

 > It doesn=E2=80=99t intend that A2::B2 derives B2 but in this case where=
 an=20
L2-anchor exists in between L3-anchor and stateless interworking=20
functions, the L2-anchor binds A2::B2 to B2. I think that some diagram=20
and clear notation would help to describe it.

In such case, maybe using B2 in both cases is part of confusion.
Using A2::B2' instead might help to clarify B2 in A2::B2 (L3=3D>L2) and B2=
=20
(L2=3D>stateless interworking function) is different.

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From: "Satoru Matsushima" <satoru.matsushima@gmail.com>
To: "Kentaro Ebisawa" <ebiken.g@gmail.com>
Cc: "dmm" <dmm@ietf.org>
date: 2017/12/05 18:35:37
Subject: Re: review comments on draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-00

Hi Ebisawa-san,

Thank you for your review. That=E2=80=99s helpful. Please see my comments i=
n=20
line:

>[...]

>## Comments to Stateless Interworking
>
>In general, I thought 5.4 and 6.3 could be combined or be more closer.
>I think organization of the document would be changed a lot from=20
>various feedback so just my 2 cents at this point.

My intention was at first to introduce all user-plane functions followed=20
by use cases.
There=E2=80=99s space to improve document structure which I agree.


>
> > 5.4.1. End.TM:
> >
> > 1. IF NH=3DSRH & SL > 0 THEN
> > 2. decrement SL
> > 3. update the IPv6 DA with SRH[SL]
> > 4. push header of TUN-PROTO with tunnel ID from S ;; Ref1
> > 5. push outer IPv4 header with SA, DA from S
> > 6. ELSE
> > 7. Drop the packet
>
>5.4.1 doesn't mention about PSP (pop SRH from packet) which is=20
>described in 6.3.2.
>Do you expect any case where PSP would not happen for End.TM operation?
>If so, that means End.TM would be used in other situation than=20
>described in 6.3.2, so might be more clear if you can describe that=20
>case as well.

Right. I agree that PSP should be expected in this case. Thanks.


>
> > 5.4.2. T.Tmap: Transit behavior with tunnel decapsulation and mapping
> >
> > 4. insert the SRH (D, B; SL=3D1) ;; Ref2, Ref2bis
>
>I assume D is end point node on public internet.
>Since it's not defined, adding description what is D might make it more=20
>clear.
>
> > 6.3.2 Downlink: SRv6 to Legacy Access
> > ...
> > SID is bound to the next segment of S::1 , the L3-anchor node
> > does T.Insert process for the receiving packet to push a SRH
> > with SID list <B2::, S::1> with SL=3D1, where "B2" which encodes
>
>Maybe <B2::, S::1> should be <B2, S::1> Since B2 is Stateless=20
>Interworking SID Encoding and not prefix?

Yes, correct. I=E2=80=99ll do fix it with appropriate diagram which Charlie=
=20
pointed out.

>
>
> > The stateless interworking node of "B2" End.TM process for the
> > receiving packet according to the SRH. The node decrement SL
> > to 0, updates DA to "D::1" which the SL indicates, push IPv4
> > and tunnel headers with IPv4 DA, SA and TUN-ID extracted from
> > "B2", and forward the packet to the legacy network.
>
>Since this is DL, shouldn't DA be "S::1" (MN) ?
>My understanding is SA for DL is always D::1 which would not change=20
>while travelling from L3 Anchor to B2.

Yes, you=E2=80=99re right. Will fix it as well.

>
>
> > 6.3.2. Downlink: SRv6 to Legacy Access
> >
> > In case of an L2-anchor node receives a packet destine to SID
> > "A2::B2" and the SID is bound to "B2", the L2-anchor node does
> > End.B6 process for the receiving packet as same as previous
> > section. The node updates DA to B2 and forward the packet.
>
>I could not find description of case when L3-anchor add A2::B2 as DA.
>Might be more clear if you can describe the format of A2::B2 and how to=20
>generate B2 from A2::B2.

It doesn=E2=80=99t intend that A2::B2 derives B2 but in this case where an=
=20
L2-anchor exists in between L3-anchor and stateless interworking=20
functions, the L2-anchor binds A2::B2 to B2. I think that some diagram=20
and clear notation would help to describe it.


>
>
>Also, it might be nice if you have matrix like below for 6.3 as similar=20
>to the ones you have in 6.1 and 6.2.
>
>+-----------------------------+--------+----------+
>| User-plane Function | Uplink | Downlink |
>+-----------------------------+--------+----------+
>| stateless interworking node | T.Tmap | End.TM |
>| L2-anchor | End.B6 | End.B6 |
>| L3-anchor | End.T | T.Insert |
>+-----------------------------+--------+----------+
>
>

Yes, I agree.

Following generic comments will also be taken into account in a next=20
version. Thanks.

Cheers,
--satoru


>## General Comments (not limited to stateless interworking)
>
>1. Might overlap with comments from Charlie, but I also thought it was=20
>difficult to find out where in the network S1, C1, A2::1, D::1, A1::1=20
>etc. resides.
>Diagram of overall network including above addresses with list of node=20
>each address corresponds would be helpful.
>
>
>2. Any reason Access Point UL and L3-anchor DL only use T.Insert and=20
>not T.Encap?
>Looks like it was intentionally removed in=20
>draft-matsushima-spring-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-02, so sorry if it was=20
>already discussed and clarified.
>If there are any issue between Access Point and L3-anchor which router=20
>reply ICMP, it would be destined to MN or End Point on public internet.
>Since ICMP payload would have SRH which includes mobile network's=20
>information, I was not sure if this is accepted for all operators.
>
>
>3. It might be more clear to mention <S1, S2, S3> is a SID list where=20
>S1 is the first SID to visit and S3 is the last.
>(Although it is mentioned in SRv6 Network Programming draft)
>
>
>Thanks,
>--
>Kentaro Ebisawa @ Ponto Networks, Inc.
>Work: <ebiken@pontonetworks.com> | Mailing Lists: <ebiken.g@gmail.com>
>


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Lyle, sorry for my late response.=20

> [...]

> Type of the accompanying value.

Ah, okay.



>  There was a line continuation that made reading it awkward in some =
e-mail clients.
>=20
> In Descriptors it is the type of Descriptor Value
>>                Descriptor-Id =3D 222222
>>                Descriptor-Type =3D IPFilterRule=20
>>                Descriptor-Value =3D in ip from any to assigned 22
> In Actions it is the type of Action Value

It sounds reasonable for me, define a type of value instead of a =
concrete value.=20
So do we agree to change =E2=80=9CDescriptor/Action-Value=E2=80=9D to =
=E2=80=9CDescriptor/Action-Value-Type=E2=80=9D in =
Descriptor/Action-Definition set?


>=20
> However, we gave an Action Type (Drop) where the value is unnecessary. =
 The same would be for the type 'Permit'.  In other standards we use a =
boolean value 'Gate' (True=3DDrop; False=3DPermit).

I think so too.

cheers,
--satoru


>=20
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Satoru Matsushima
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 7:32 PM
> To: Moses, Danny <danny.moses@intel.com>
> Cc: dmm@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [DMM] FPC: Move Descriptor-/Action-Value into Rule
>=20
> Now I seems I=E2=80=99m confused when I see what does the type define.
>=20
> Does the type define type of value, or type of action/descritor?
>=20
> Cheers,
> --satoru
>=20
>> 2017/11/28 14:11=E3=80=81Moses, Danny =
<danny.moses@intel.com>=E3=81=AE=E3=83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB:
>>=20
>> I am OK with the current structure.
>>=20
>> From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marco Liebsch
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 23:45
>> To: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] <Lyle.T.Bertz@sprint.com>; dmm@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [DMM] FPC: Move Descriptor-/Action-Value into Rule
>>=20
>> So, then I don=E2=80=99t see the point of changing the current =
structure. Other opinions?
>>=20
>> From: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] [mailto:Lyle.T.Bertz@sprint.com]
>> Sent: Dienstag, 28. November 2017 19:42
>> To: Marco Liebsch; dmm@ietf.org
>> Subject: RE: FPC: Move Descriptor-/Action-Value into Rule
>>=20
>> I intentionally left out my opinion from the analysis.  I am against =
both as the reusability for a value of a Descriptor/Action (especially =
descriptor) does not meet the define once, use many objective for =
Descriptors.  The define once, use many for Rule re-use is already =
present in Policy.
>>=20
>> From: Marco Liebsch [mailto:Marco.Liebsch@neclab.eu]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 9:54 AM
>> To: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] <Lyle.T.Bertz@sprint.com>; dmm@ietf.org
>> Subject: RE: FPC: Move Descriptor-/Action-Value into Rule
>>=20
>> Hi Lyle,
>>=20
>> I see the analysis you brought, thanks for that. My proposal #2 is =
not=20
>> my preference as it was only an attempt to extend and match what=20
>> Satoru had in mind without losing the value in current=20
>> descriptors/actions. Maybe it did not help ;-)
>>=20
>> I just see that an action value belongs to an actions type. Clearly=20=

>> there are types which don=E2=80=99t require a value, e.g. drop. Here =
value is void and re-usability is ensured, IMO.
>> But moving the value entirely out of action / descriptor I just saw =
shortcomings.
>>=20
>> So, you brought examples and arguments against proposal #1 and =
proposal #2.
>> But I could not conclude if there are any preferences or alternative? =
Do we leave it as it is now?
>>=20
>> marco
>>=20
>>=20
>> From: Bertz, Lyle T [CTO] [mailto:Lyle.T.Bertz@sprint.com]
>> Sent: Montag, 20. November 2017 15:15
>> To: Marco Liebsch; dmm@ietf.org
>> Subject: RE: FPC: Move Descriptor-/Action-Value into Rule
>>=20
>> Marco,
>>=20
>> Thank you for the write up of both proposals.  Forgive the length of =
the response but I wanted to provide concrete examples based upon the =
existing data types.
>>=20
>> Summary, see below for examples and details:
>> -          Satoru=E2=80=99s Proposal (Proposal 1) - the use of only =
ID/Type could be replaced by making the Type a U-Key (similar to a =
registry or identity in YANG). In any arrangement though only the Type =
could be use.  The downside for Proposal 1 is reusability. =20
>> -          Marco=E2=80=99s Proposal (Proposal 2) - To make sense the =
setting MUST not be in any of the existing Settings, i.e. it is a =
setting that MUST NOT be tied to the Mobility-Context, DPN Interface or =
the fact that a DPN was assigned to enforce a Rule.  Does such an =
example exist?
>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>> My Opinion <<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>=20
>> I would not pursue Proposal 1 due to the loss of reusability which is =
a key benefit of entities under the Policy Model.
>> I would not pursue Proposal 2 if we cannot find clear examples that =
the settings can be placed in other settings locations.  I cannot think =
of an example at this time but I am just one person and hope the team =
can provide such examples.
>>=20
>> Lyle
>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>> Detail <<<<<<<<<<<
>>=20
>>=20
>> Let=E2=80=99s take a step back.   Consider the IPFilterRule (RFC =
6733) to block inbound port 22 traffic (even from itself)
>> =E2=80=9Cdeny in ip from any to assigned 22=E2=80=9D
>>=20
>> Recall that from 6733, =E2=80=9CThe keyword "assigned" is the address =
or set of addresses assigned to the terminal.=E2=80=9D
>>=20
>> If I use a =E2=80=98IPFilterRule=E2=80=99 Descriptor Type (it is not =
in the spec; I am making up a new type here) and provide a value of =
descriptor =E2=80=9Cin ip from any to assigned 22=E2=80=9D  you will =
note the only Setting to deal with here is =E2=80=98assigned=E2=80=99.
>>=20
>> In Satoru=E2=80=99s proposal, we will call it Proposal 1, we could =
see a=20
>> Descriptor example as Descriptor-Definition
>>                Descriptor-Id =3D 222222
>>                Descriptor-Type =3D IPFilterRule Action-Definition
>>                Action-Id =3D 111111
>>                Action-Type =3D deny (or drop) Rule-Definition
>>                Rule-Id =3D 21231
>> Descriptor-Match-Type =3D AND
>> Descriptor-Reference
>>                                Descriptor-Id-Reference =3D 222222=20
>> Descriptor-Value =3D in ip from any to assigned 22
>>                Action-Reference
>>                                Action-Id-Reference =3D 111111
>>=20
>> We see the tradeoffs clearly in this example, when the value is =
directly determined by the type as in the deny Action-Type, the Action =
Reference is quite small.  In the case of the Descriptor we see the =
value is still incomplete and the setting =E2=80=98assigned=E2=80=99 is =
applied.
>>=20
>> For Marco=E2=80=99s proposal, we will call it Proposal 2:
>> Descriptor-Definition
>>                Descriptor-Id =3D 222222
>>                Descriptor-Type =3D IPFilterRule Descriptor-Value =3D =
in=20
>> ip from any to assigned 22 Action-Definition
>>                Action-Id =3D 111111
>>                Action-Type =3D deny (or drop) Rule-Definition
>>                Rule-Id =3D 21231
>> Descriptor-Match-Type =3D AND
>> Descriptor-Reference
>>                                Descriptor-Id-Reference =3D 222222=20
>> Descriptor-Value-Settings =3D [ assign =3D =E2=80=A6 ]
>>                Action-Reference
>>                                Action-Id-Reference =3D 111111
>>=20
>> For Proposal 1, the use of only ID/Type could be replaced by making =
the Type a U-Key (similar to a registry or identity in YANG). In any =
arrangement though only the Type could be used.  The result would be the =
elimination of the Descriptor-Definition and Action-Defintion.
>>=20
>> The downside for Proposal 1 is reusability.  If I wanted to reuse the =
value =E2=80=9Cin ip from any to assigned 22=E2=80=9D with a different =
list of Descriptors then it must be redefined in the model.  This is due =
to the fact that =E2=80=98Descriptor-Id-Reference=E2=80=99 points to an =
entry in the Descriptors-Definitions List.  If I made a local key then =
reuse is possible but now I need a local key for each Descriptor and =
compound key of Rule-Id / Descriptor-Id <L-Key> in the entry.   This =
also becomes problematic when the Descriptors are smaller than the =
Identifiers that reference them.
>>=20
>> For Proposal 2, the idea is to permit settings (variable =
substitution) to occur within the Rule components.  In the I-D we have =
settings in the following locations:
>> =C2=B7         Interface-Settings in the DPN  - Settings that are =
important for an interface but not required to be known during DPN =
Selection.
>> =C2=B7         Interface-Settings in the DPN-Type =E2=80=93 Settings =
that are crucial to DPN interface suitability during DPN selection.
>> =C2=B7         Interface-Settings in the DPN-Peer-Group =E2=80=93 =
Settings that MUST be used when the specified DPN-Peer-Group is being =
communicated to. This is used for inter-operator or cross-border =
communications. =20
>> =C2=B7         Policy-Settings in Configurable-Policy =E2=80=93 =
Settings that apply to a Configurable-Policy on a DPN.  Recall that =
Configurable-Policy affects MULTIPLE Mobility-Contexts (Mobility =
Sessions).
>> =C2=B7         Within a Mobility Context we have=20
>> =C2=B7         DPN-Settings-Complementary in the DPN-References =E2=80=93=
 Settings applicable to the Embedded-Rule and/or =
Assigned-Policy-Reference of the DPN.  In this case these values are =
important to the assigned DPN but are not the same value if another DPN =
was assigned to support the same rules.
>> =C2=B7         Context-Settings-Complementary =E2=80=93 Assigned at =
the Mobility-Context level and impacts one or more DPNs.=20
>>=20
>> In our example the value of =E2=80=98assigned=E2=80=99 would be the =
Delegated-IP-Prefix and placed under the Context-Settings-Complementary.
>>=20
>> For Proposal 2 to make sense the setting MUST not be in any of the =
existing Settings locations.  Therefore it is a value that MUST NOT be =
tied to the Mobility-Context, DPN Interface or the fact that a DPN was =
assigned to enforce a Rule.   My question is what example could we come =
up with that meets this criteria that is not met by adding another =
Descriptor or Action? I cannot think of one but if we can Proposal 2 =
makes sense but not necessarily for both Actions and Descriptors.
>>=20
>>=20
>> From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marco Liebsch
>> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 9:42 AM
>> To: Marco Liebsch <Marco.Liebsch@neclab.eu>; dmm@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [DMM] FPC: Move Descriptor-/Action-Value into Rule
>>=20
>> Another proposal:=20
>> To not disrupt descriptors and actions by removing attributes that =
belong together (ID-Type-Value), what about keeping the current format =
and apply a new attribute 'x-value-settings' to Descriptor-Reference and =
Action-Reference respectively?
>> This should follow define once- use many paradigm.
>>=20
>> Ending up in this:
>>=20
>>  +-[Policy]
>>  |      +-[Policy-Definition] <Set>
>>  |      |             +-[Policy-Id] <G-Key> (M)
>>  |      |             +-[Rule-Reference] Set (M)
>>  |      |             +-[Precedence] <L-Key> (M)
>>  |      |             +-[Rule-Id-Reference] (M)
>>  |      +-[Rule-Definition] <Set>
>>  |      |             +-[Rule-Id] <L-Key> (M)
>>  |      |             +-[Descriptor-Match-Type] (M)
>>  |      |             +-[Descriptor-Reference] <Set>
>>  |      |             |                +-[Descriptor-Id-Reference]
>>  |      |             |                +-[Direction] (O)
>>  |      |             |                +-[Descriptor-Value-Settings] =
(O)
>>  |      |             +-[Action-Reference] <Set>
>>  |      |                              +-[Action-Id-Reference]
>>  |      |                              +-[Action-Order]
>>  |      |                              +-[Action-Value-Settings] (O)
>>  |      +-[Descriptor-Definition] <Set>
>>  |      |             +-[Descriptor -Id] <L-Key> (M)
>>  |      |             +-[Descriptor-Type]
>>  |      |             +-[Descriptor-Value]
>>  |      +-[Action-Definition] <Set>
>>  |                    +-[Action-Id] <L-Key> (M)
>>  |                    +-[Action-Type]
>>  |                    +-[Action-Value]
>>=20
>>=20
>> marco
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marco Liebsch
>> Sent: Donnerstag, 16. November 2017 16:33
>> To: dmm@ietf.org
>> Subject: [DMM] FPC: Move Descriptor-/Action-Value into Rule
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>> What to change:
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>> Current Policy substructure looks as follows:
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>>  +-[Policy]
>>  |      +-[Policy-Definition] <Set>
>>  |      |             +-[Policy-Id] <G-Key> (M)
>>  |      |             +-[Rule-Reference] Set (M)
>>  |      |             +-[Precedence] <L-Key> (M)
>>  |      |             +-[Rule-Id-Reference] (M)
>>  |      +-[Rule-Definition] <Set>
>>  |      |             +-[Rule-Id] <L-Key> (M)
>>  |      |             +-[Descriptor-Match-Type] (M)=20
>>  |      |             +-[Descriptor-Reference] <Set>
>>  |      |             |                +-[Descriptor-Id-Reference]
>>  |      |             |                +-[Direction] (O)
>>  |      |             +-[Action-Reference] <Set>
>>  |      |                              +-[Action-Id-Reference]
>>  |      |                              +-[Action-Order]
>>  |      +-[Descriptor-Definition] <Set>
>>  |      |             +-[Descriptor -Id] <L-Key> (M)
>>  |      |             +-[Descriptor-Type]
>>  |      |             +-[Descriptor-Value]
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>>  |                    +-[Action-Id] <L-Key> (M)
>>  |                    +-[Action-Type]
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>>  |      +-[Policy-Definition] <Set>
>>  |      |             +-[Policy-Id] <G-Key> (M)
>>  |      |             +-[Rule-Reference] Set (M)
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>>  |      |             +-[Rule-Id-Reference] (M)
>> |      +-[Rule-Definition] <Set>
>>  |      |             +-[Rule-Id] <L-Key> (M)
>>  |      |             +-[Descriptor-Match-Type] (M)=20
>>  |      |             +-[Descriptor-Reference] <Set>
>>  |      |             |                +-[Descriptor-Id-Reference]
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>>  |      |             |                +-[Descriptor-Value]
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>>  |      |                              +-[Action-Id-Reference]
>>  |      |                              +-[Action-Order]
>>  |      |                              +-[Action-Value]=20
>>  |      |
>>  |      +-[Descriptor-Definition] <Set>
>>  |      |             +-[Descriptor -Id] <L-Key> (M)
>>  |      |             +-[Descriptor-Type]
>>  |      +-[Action-Definition] <Set>
>>  |                    +-[Action-Id] <L-Key> (M)
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In response to the 3GPP CT4 study item on user plane protocols, we propose =
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outline. Please let me
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Hello Kalyani,

+1. White paper looks a good work to start the user-plane study here in =
IETF. I support it.

I think that comparison with quantitive measurements may need to use =
specific deployment metrics in each operator.

But through this white paper work, if we figure out clear criteria for =
apple-to-apple comparison to candidate protocols for 3GPP use cases, =
that would be greatly help to move the study forward.

Hope that make sense and work with you on it.

Cheers,
--satoru

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We collected a few items in the context of the FPC draft update and want to=
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Hence, we scheduled the call for tomorrow, Wednesday, 2017/12/20, at 08:30 =
PDT / 17:30 CET.

The call is open and in case you plan to attend, please give us a note so w=
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to the webmeeting resources.

Also, in case you have comments to the current version of the draft, please=
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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-cpdp/

Current rough agenda for the call is as follows:


/ Status of revision

/ Few items for clarification

/ Confirmation of model substructure for descriptor/action values

/ next steps and action points

Best regards,
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 context of the FPC draft update and want to discuss and converge on them i=
n a telco.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hence, we scheduled the call fo=
r tomorrow, Wednesday, 2017/12/20, at 08:30 PDT / 17:30 CET.<o:p></o:p></sp=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The call is open and in case yo=
u plan to attend, please give us a note so we can send you the link<br>
to the webmeeting resources.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Also, in case you have comments=
 to the current version of the draft, please post them on the DMM ML.<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.=
ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-fpc-cpdp/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/dra=
ft-ietf-dmm-fpc-cpdp/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Current rough agenda for the ca=
ll is as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">/ Status of revision<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">/ Few items for clarificatio=
n<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">/ Confirmation of model subs=
tructure for descriptor/action values<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">/ next steps and action poin=
ts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">marco<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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Number of Sessions: 1
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Name:           draft-bertz-dime-predictunits
Revision:       03
Title:          Diameter Predicted Units
Document date:  2017-12-29
Group:          Individual Submission
Pages:          7
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Title:          Diameter Specification Recommendations
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Version bump and

we have a basic implementation (just the data structures) started here


https://gerrit.opencord.org/#/admin/projects/c3po?



A new version of I-D, draft-bertz-dime-policygroups-05.txt
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Name:           draft-bertz-dime-policygroups
Revision:       05
Title:          Diameter Policy Groups and Sets
Document date:  2017-12-29
Group:          Individual Submission
Pages:          11
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Abstract:
   This document defines optional Diameter attributes for efficient
   policy provisioning.




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