From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 1 06:56:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C2D3A6829; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 06:56:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873883A6829 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 06:56:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J2rE9ir4fhGF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 06:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nic.cafax.se (nic.cafax.se [192.71.228.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F51D3A66B4 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 06:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.liman.net (2-1-3-18a.spa.sth.bostream.se [82.182.146.229]) by nic.cafax.se (8.13.7/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m81DtgRF013757; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:55:42 +0200 (MEST) Received: from zaptop.autonomica.net (zaptop.autonomica.se [192.71.80.71]) by home.liman.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m81DtfWO011856 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:55:41 +0200 (MEST) Received: from zaptop.autonomica.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by zaptop.autonomica.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m81DtfVo024873; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:55:43 +0200 (CEST) To: Peter Koch References: <20080819181713.GN1740@unknown.office.denic.de> <200808201313.m7KDDQUM022984@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080821150229.GF988@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <20080821155656.GC6169@unknown.office.denic.de> <20080826140343.GA5970@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <200808271243.m7RCh4GA013966@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080828124613.GH14541@unknown.office.denic.de> From: Lars-Johan Liman Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:55:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20080828124613.GH14541@unknown.office.denic.de> (Peter Koch's message of "Thu\, 28 Aug 2008 14\:46\:13 +0200") Message-ID: <22iqtg55sy.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting/TelCo 2008-09-01 conference logistics X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org pk@DENIC.DE: > Speaking of which, those who haven't voted yet, please visit > , so we know we meet on 1st > or 8th of September. Since I haven't heard a clear decision on the date yet, and it's 5 minutes to Paris 1600 h on 2008-09-01, I assume there will be no teleconf today. Cheers, /Liman _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 1 07:04:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06AA13A6896; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 07:04:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888083A686E for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 07:04:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.677, BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iUV76-PWEaTf for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 07:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-159.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.159]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9240A3A66B4 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 07:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from commandprompt.com (CPE001b63afe888-CM001adea9c5a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.236.211.160]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m81E6W2i015225 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 07:06:35 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:03:21 -0400 From: Andrew Sullivan To: dns-dir@ietf.org Message-ID: <20080901140320.GB46595@commandprompt.com> References: <20080819181713.GN1740@unknown.office.denic.de> <200808201313.m7KDDQUM022984@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080821150229.GF988@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <20080821155656.GC6169@unknown.office.denic.de> <20080826140343.GA5970@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <200808271243.m7RCh4GA013966@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080828124613.GH14541@unknown.office.denic.de> <22iqtg55sy.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <22iqtg55sy.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (lists.commandprompt.com [207.173.203.159]); Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting/TelCo 2008-09-01 conference logistics X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 03:55:41PM +0200, Lars-Johan Liman wrote: > Since I haven't heard a clear decision on the date yet, and it's 5 > minutes to Paris 1600 h on 2008-09-01, I assume there will be no > teleconf today. Since it's now _after_ 1600, and nobody's come online, I'll also assume we've moved to next week. A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@commandprompt.com +1 503 667 4564 x104 http://www.commandprompt.com/ _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 1 07:09:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244623A6844; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 07:09:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F433A6844 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 07:09:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.642 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.642 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.252, BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kxi4XeNa5d5V for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 07:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.denic.de (gw-office.denic.de [81.91.160.182]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4F63A6826 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 07:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from denic.de ([10.122.65.106]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1KaA5M-00085R-1R; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:08:52 +0200 Received: by unknown.office.denic.de (Postfix, from userid 501) id D64297F533B; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 16:08:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 16:08:51 +0200 From: Peter Koch To: Lars-Johan Liman Message-ID: <20080901140851.GA19747@unknown.office.denic.de> References: <20080819181713.GN1740@unknown.office.denic.de> <200808201313.m7KDDQUM022984@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080821150229.GF988@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <20080821155656.GC6169@unknown.office.denic.de> <20080826140343.GA5970@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <200808271243.m7RCh4GA013966@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080828124613.GH14541@unknown.office.denic.de> <22iqtg55sy.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <22iqtg55sy.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting/TelCo 2008-09-01 conference logistics X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 03:55:41PM +0200, Lars-Johan Liman wrote: > > Speaking of which, those who haven't voted yet, please visit > > , so we know we meet on 1st > > or 8th of September. > > Since I haven't heard a clear decision on the date yet, and it's 5 > minutes to Paris 1600 h on 2008-09-01, I assume there will be no > teleconf today. well' I have been on the call since 1555 but nobody joined, maybe because the "chairperson" is missing. The doodle feedback at was a bit unconclusive, but I'd suggest we give it a try next week, same time, same draft agenda. -Peter _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 1 08:03:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B85A3A6835; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 08:03:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1893A6859 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 08:03:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x+CQv8ZSNS-p for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 08:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nic.cafax.se (nic.cafax.se [192.71.228.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0034D3A66B4 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 08:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.liman.net (2-1-3-18a.spa.sth.bostream.se [82.182.146.229]) by nic.cafax.se (8.13.7/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m81F2d0p007271; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:02:41 +0200 (MEST) Received: from zaptop.autonomica.net (zaptop.autonomica.se [192.71.80.71]) by home.liman.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m81F2cc7011725 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:02:38 +0200 (MEST) Received: from zaptop.autonomica.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by zaptop.autonomica.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m81F2cwG025061; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:02:40 +0200 (CEST) To: Peter Koch References: <20080819181713.GN1740@unknown.office.denic.de> <200808201313.m7KDDQUM022984@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080821150229.GF988@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <20080821155656.GC6169@unknown.office.denic.de> <20080826140343.GA5970@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <200808271243.m7RCh4GA013966@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080828124613.GH14541@unknown.office.denic.de> <22iqtg55sy.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> <20080901140851.GA19747@unknown.office.denic.de> From: Lars-Johan Liman Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:02:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20080901140851.GA19747@unknown.office.denic.de> (Peter Koch's message of "Mon\, 1 Sep 2008 16\:08\:51 +0200") Message-ID: <2263pf3o4x.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting/TelCo 2008-09-01 conference logistics X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org pk@DENIC.DE: > well' I have been on the call since 1555 but nobody joined, maybe because > the "chairperson" is missing. The doodle feedback at > > was a bit unconclusive, but I'd suggest we give it a try next week, same > time, same draft agenda. Well, doodle doesn't make the decision for you, it just collects information that can help you make the decision. Someone will have to interpret doodle and make the decision, and communicate the result to the participants. Having the participants each make up their own interpretation of the data is not going to work well in the long run. See also the old military doctrine: "A clear message is better than a correct one.". ;-) Cheers, /Liman _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 1 08:28:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6413A6944; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 08:28:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735B13A68C4 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 08:28:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.730, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, J_CHICKENPOX_51=0.6, MANGLED_FREE=2.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FLmHn28UM9+r for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 08:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.denic.de (gw-office.denic.de [81.91.160.182]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6DD3A6899 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 08:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from denic.de ([10.122.65.106]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1KaBJi-00047x-L1; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:27:46 +0200 Received: by unknown.office.denic.de (Postfix, from userid 501) id 87AE37F5468; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:27:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:27:46 +0200 From: Peter Koch To: Lars-Johan Liman Message-ID: <20080901152746.GB19818@unknown.office.denic.de> References: <200808201313.m7KDDQUM022984@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080821150229.GF988@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <20080821155656.GC6169@unknown.office.denic.de> <20080826140343.GA5970@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <200808271243.m7RCh4GA013966@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080828124613.GH14541@unknown.office.denic.de> <22iqtg55sy.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> <20080901140851.GA19747@unknown.office.denic.de> <2263pf3o4x.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2263pf3o4x.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: IETF DNS Directorate Subject: [dns-dir] TelCo now scheduled for 2008-09-08 X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 05:02:38PM +0200, Lars-Johan Liman wrote: > Well, doodle doesn't make the decision for you, it just collects > information that can help you make the decision. Someone will have to understood, that's why I said the feedback was unconclusive, not the oracle failed ;-) > See also the old military doctrine: "A clear message is better than a > correct one.". ;-) Apologies. Some meeting kept me busy longer than expected before I could send stuff. Here's a suggestion for next Monday: o Revisit meeting schedule, especially timezone 06 OCT 2008 03 NOV 2008 01 DEC 2008 05 JAN 2009 02 FEB 2009 o Dublin meeting minutes [drafts for Tue and Thu have been posted] o Review of action items - 1123 ambiguity on "alphabetic" vs. "non-numerical" TLDs - draft-ellermann-idnabis-test-tlds-11.txt and reservation of additional TLDs [Olaf/Thomas] - review of draft-bambenek-doubleflux-01.txt [Roy] - "some issue" (see minutes) re: SRV registry [Olafur] - draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl-05.txt and draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-03.txt contact Lisa re: DNS Dir review [Peter] recruit reviewers for both drafts [Roy] o Returning patterns of suboptimal/concerning use of the DNS o DNS and HTTP Cookie Spec Issues Scope of HTTP cookies is based on "a domain", meaning a whole DNS subtree. Various black- and whitelisting proposals have been brought forward to limit the exploitability of cookies set for "registry like domains", e.g. "co.uk". The underlying problem is addressed in the IAB draft (DNS choices), but HTTP folks aren't likely to change the cookie spec but instead suggest DNS based kludg^W solutions. o DNS related language and terminology in RFCs The RFC Editor wanted some advice on consistent spelling of terms ("RRSet", "name server", ...) and reviewers might benefit from a list of potential terminology confusion ("zone" vs "domain", "hostname" vs "domain name", ...) Please let me know additional topics (or req for changes) by Friday this week. The plan was to use Nominet's Telco logistics for the call (thanks to Roy, who is kindly asked to follow up with the details). US (east) +1 7183541169 US (west) +1 4089616553 NL +31 202013852 UK +44 2078193600 FR +33 171230055 SE +46 858536827 CA 18667425608 FI +358 969379595 DE +49 6950070811 Conference Code: 4227104 -Peter _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 1 10:01:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34EF3A68B3; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:01:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CEC03A68B3 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:01:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OX21VLO7bV8K for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012CC3A686C for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:01:56 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,308,1217808000"; d="scan'208";a="18828153" Received: from ams-dkim-2.cisco.com ([144.254.224.139]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 Sep 2008 17:01:53 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m81H1r5e024665; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 19:01:53 +0200 Received: from xbh-ams-331.emea.cisco.com (xbh-ams-331.cisco.com [144.254.231.71]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m81H1rYp012828; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:01:53 GMT Received: from xfe-ams-332.cisco.com ([144.254.231.73]) by xbh-ams-331.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 1 Sep 2008 19:01:53 +0200 Received: from [192.165.72.13] ([10.61.64.203]) by xfe-ams-332.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 1 Sep 2008 19:01:52 +0200 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= To: Andrew Sullivan In-Reply-To: <20080901140320.GB46595@commandprompt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 19:01:52 +0200 References: <20080819181713.GN1740@unknown.office.denic.de> <200808201313.m7KDDQUM022984@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080821150229.GF988@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <20080821155656.GC6169@unknown.office.denic.de> <20080826140343.GA5970@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <200808271243.m7RCh4GA013966@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080828124613.GH14541@unknown.office.denic.de> <22iqtg55sy.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> <20080901140320.GB46595@commandprompt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Sep 2008 17:01:52.0973 (UTC) FILETIME=[6EA2F7D0:01C90C54] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=450; t=1220288513; x=1221152513; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=paf@cisco.com; z=From:=20=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=3DE4ltstr=3DF6m?=3D=20

|Subject:=20Re=3A=20[dns-dir]=20Meeting/TelCo=202008-09-01= 20conference=20logistics |Sender:=20; bh=k5xHuh17PwoBb4N6OwYWo4UcjHFqYIR1MBZiy16pJc8=; b=HeFA6M7bjB75hpXOPu6CG+SRWoaKcBL3c93+Sn+9EbIGw4AM370vtZ/vTp iSYZaGj7tiHpyAlkIROWeSfxo82aTI3rQbfR35KihKcMgz64q79QrxBy4sMC HUUh7dTDeX; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-2; header.From=paf@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/amsdkim2001 verified; ); Cc: dns-dir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting/TelCo 2008-09-01 conference logistics X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org On 1 sep 2008, at 16.03, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 03:55:41PM +0200, Lars-Johan Liman wrote: >> Since I haven't heard a clear decision on the date yet, and it's 5 >> minutes to Paris 1600 h on 2008-09-01, I assume there will be no >> teleconf today. > > Since it's now _after_ 1600, and nobody's come online, I'll also > assume we've moved to next week. I called, but gave up after a minute or so... Patrik _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 1 10:02:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFF73A6956; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:02:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3693A68B3 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:02:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zCD1P3oUjsTt for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400783A6781 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:02:11 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,308,1217808000"; d="scan'208";a="18828189" Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 Sep 2008 17:02:15 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m81H2Fbg023915; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 19:02:15 +0200 Received: from xbh-ams-331.emea.cisco.com (xbh-ams-331.cisco.com [144.254.231.71]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m81H2F01012928; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:02:15 GMT Received: from xfe-ams-332.cisco.com ([144.254.231.73]) by xbh-ams-331.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 1 Sep 2008 19:02:15 +0200 Received: from [192.165.72.13] ([10.61.64.203]) by xfe-ams-332.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 1 Sep 2008 19:02:15 +0200 Message-Id: <9454EDA9-3697-4950-998F-3662B22055F0@cisco.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= To: Peter Koch In-Reply-To: <20080901140851.GA19747@unknown.office.denic.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 19:02:14 +0200 References: <20080819181713.GN1740@unknown.office.denic.de> <200808201313.m7KDDQUM022984@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080821150229.GF988@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <20080821155656.GC6169@unknown.office.denic.de> <20080826140343.GA5970@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <200808271243.m7RCh4GA013966@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080828124613.GH14541@unknown.office.denic.de> <22iqtg55sy.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> <20080901140851.GA19747@unknown.office.denic.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Sep 2008 17:02:15.0520 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C135E00:01C90C54] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=385; t=1220288535; x=1221152535; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim1002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=paf@cisco.com; z=From:=20=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=3DE4ltstr=3DF6m?=3D=20

|Subject:=20Re=3A=20[dns-dir]=20Meeting/TelCo=202008-09-01= 20conference=20logistics |Sender:=20; bh=XhgPWxRgqLq7/1huUh/O89HRJcKrN20YKZgDQ6qM2Zw=; b=v9X7Bk8t0ajG/heR/CPGkcTypKZTXmfCg1qX1lQW2nZroaTUAzl2adRWdx wayneAPeEq8lMU0dm2XRhreAZd4HjrXwZ04xokdn0uSasUXYBc4JXLa7FX/U crkPhoYi1X; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=paf@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/amsdkim1002 verified; ); Cc: IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting/TelCo 2008-09-01 conference logistics X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org On 1 sep 2008, at 16.08, Peter Koch wrote: > well' I have been on the call since 1555 but nobody joined, maybe > because > the "chairperson" is missing. The doodle feedback at > > was a bit unconclusive, but I'd suggest we give it a try next week, > same > time, same draft agenda. Yup! Patrik _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 1 13:48:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7C53A6AD7; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:48:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7FA28C11A for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:48:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.783, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_51=0.6, MANGLED_FREE=2.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HZp9ydnSBD97 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8A528C12B for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:47:20 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,309,1217808000"; d="scan'208";a="18839848" Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 Sep 2008 20:47:25 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m81KlOOF031647; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 22:47:24 +0200 Received: from xbh-ams-331.emea.cisco.com (xbh-ams-331.cisco.com [144.254.231.71]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m81KlOjs018816; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:47:25 GMT Received: from xfe-ams-331.emea.cisco.com ([144.254.231.72]) by xbh-ams-331.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 1 Sep 2008 22:47:24 +0200 Received: from ams-townsley-8711.cisco.com ([10.55.233.226]) by xfe-ams-331.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 1 Sep 2008 22:47:24 +0200 Message-ID: <48BC54BF.40100@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:46:55 +0200 From: Mark Townsley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Koch References: <200808201313.m7KDDQUM022984@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080821150229.GF988@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <20080821155656.GC6169@unknown.office.denic.de> <20080826140343.GA5970@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <200808271243.m7RCh4GA013966@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080828124613.GH14541@unknown.office.denic.de> <22iqtg55sy.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> <20080901140851.GA19747@unknown.office.denic.de> <2263pf3o4x.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> <20080901152746.GB19818@unknown.office.denic.de> In-Reply-To: <20080901152746.GB19818@unknown.office.denic.de> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Sep 2008 20:47:24.0510 (UTC) FILETIME=[F00FA7E0:01C90C73] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=3043; t=1220302045; x=1221166045; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim1002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=townsley@cisco.com; z=From:=20Mark=20Townsley=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[dns-dir]=20TelCo=20now=20scheduled=20f or=202008-09-08 |Sender:=20; bh=8cUrc4MInIb2OG7Aigqrgubw7AtTWNxV5iPVC2tV4Yo=; b=ucGfsSZx47qu5t6z8tZECJUkMdJACnBQWojkUvs7ZoxlEGlmI86rPVwJpm JWnPBA9PXnYNpHcP29aMlgYU8lAIJj3InYdCKtS2Ow87W/gmcm+phhpPKnJ+ gaE67UAnZS; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=townsley@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/amsdkim1002 verified; ); Cc: IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] TelCo now scheduled for 2008-09-08 X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org I'll be at a conference, and likely unable to call in - but will try. Many thanks Peter for pulling together an agenda and running the call-time logistics. Cheers, - Mark Peter Koch wrote: > On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 05:02:38PM +0200, Lars-Johan Liman wrote: > > >> Well, doodle doesn't make the decision for you, it just collects >> information that can help you make the decision. Someone will have to >> > > understood, that's why I said the feedback was unconclusive, not the > oracle failed ;-) > > >> See also the old military doctrine: "A clear message is better than a >> correct one.". ;-) >> > > Apologies. Some meeting kept me busy longer than expected before I could > send stuff. Here's a suggestion for next Monday: > > o Revisit meeting schedule, especially timezone > > 06 OCT 2008 > 03 NOV 2008 > 01 DEC 2008 > 05 JAN 2009 > 02 FEB 2009 > > o Dublin meeting minutes > [drafts for Tue and Thu have been posted] > > o Review of action items > > - 1123 ambiguity on "alphabetic" vs. "non-numerical" TLDs > - draft-ellermann-idnabis-test-tlds-11.txt and reservation of > additional TLDs [Olaf/Thomas] > - review of draft-bambenek-doubleflux-01.txt [Roy] > - "some issue" (see minutes) re: SRV registry [Olafur] > - draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl-05.txt and draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-03.txt > contact Lisa re: DNS Dir review [Peter] > recruit reviewers for both drafts [Roy] > > o Returning patterns of suboptimal/concerning use of the DNS > > o DNS and HTTP Cookie Spec Issues > Scope of HTTP cookies is based on "a domain", meaning a whole > DNS subtree. Various black- and whitelisting proposals have > been brought forward to limit the exploitability of cookies > set for "registry like domains", e.g. "co.uk". The underlying > problem is addressed in the IAB draft (DNS choices), but HTTP > folks aren't likely to change the cookie spec but instead suggest > DNS based kludg^W solutions. > > o DNS related language and terminology in RFCs > The RFC Editor wanted some advice on consistent spelling of terms > ("RRSet", "name server", ...) and reviewers might benefit from a > list of potential terminology confusion ("zone" vs "domain", "hostname" > vs "domain name", ...) > > Please let me know additional topics (or req for changes) by Friday this week. > > The plan was to use Nominet's Telco logistics for the call (thanks to Roy, > who is kindly asked to follow up with the details). > > US (east) +1 7183541169 > US (west) +1 4089616553 > NL +31 202013852 > UK +44 2078193600 > FR +33 171230055 > SE +46 858536827 > CA 18667425608 > FI +358 969379595 > DE +49 6950070811 > > Conference Code: 4227104 > > -Peter > _______________________________________________ > dns-dir mailing list > dns-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir > > _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Tue Sep 2 00:36:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A7D3A6B93; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:36:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39563A6BA0 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:36:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.117 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.117 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.818, BAYES_00=-2.599, MANGLED_FREE=2.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qEKPwM8uPL0Y for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206893A67D2 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:35:54 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,314,1217822400"; d="scan'208";a="120260258" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 02 Sep 2008 03:35:57 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,314,1217822400"; d="scan'208";a="271195115" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 02 Sep 2008 03:35:56 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:35:55 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20080901152746.GB19818@unknown.office.denic.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [dns-dir] TelCo now scheduled for 2008-09-08 Thread-Index: AckMR2IM6UzT/rYdTgCILPSNZTzRiQAhurWA References: <200808201313.m7KDDQUM022984@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com><20080821150229.GF988@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com><20080821155656.GC6169@unknown.office.denic.de><20080826140343.GA5970@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com><200808271243.m7RCh4GA013966@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com><20080828124613.GH14541@unknown.office.denic.de><22iqtg55sy.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net><20080901140851.GA19747@unknown.office.denic.de><2263pf3o4x.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> <20080901152746.GB19818@unknown.office.denic.de> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Peter Koch" , "Lars-Johan Liman" Cc: IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] TelCo now scheduled for 2008-09-08 X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Is the time still 10AM ET? I may be able to join only for 30 minutes then. Is there a toll-free or local call number in place for Israel? Thanks and regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org > > The plan was to use Nominet's Telco logistics for the call > (thanks to Roy, who is kindly asked to follow up with the details). > > US (east) +1 7183541169 > US (west) +1 4089616553 > NL +31 202013852 > UK +44 2078193600 > FR +33 171230055 > SE +46 858536827 > CA 18667425608 > FI +358 969379595 > DE +49 6950070811 > > Conference Code: 4227104 > > -Peter > _______________________________________________ > dns-dir mailing list > dns-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir > _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Wed Sep 3 04:20:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D81D3A6BC1; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 04:20:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1716B3A6BC1; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 04:20:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.279 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.279 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.320, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xu0teYVdOdob; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 04:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nj300815-nj-outbound.avaya.com (nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.12.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5603A69C4; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 04:20:13 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,320,1217822400"; d="scan'208";a="133423648" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by nj300815-nj-outbound.avaya.com with ESMTP; 03 Sep 2008 07:19:39 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,320,1217822400"; d="scan'208";a="271946984" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 03 Sep 2008 07:19:38 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:19:37 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: WG Review: Recharter of Operational Security Capabilities for IP Network Infrastructure (opsec) Thread-Index: AckNMfTGj+9g+1gyTpSuJGRtGgzv3gAhPPQA From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "ops-area (IETF)" , "MIB Doctors (E-mail)" , , "IETF DNS Directorate" Subject: [dns-dir] FW: WG Review: Recharter of Operational Security Capabilities for IP Network Infrastructure (opsec) X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org -----Original Message----- From: iesg-bounces@iesg.org [mailto:iesg-bounces@iesg.org] On Behalf Of The IESG Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 9:15 PM To: new-work@ietf.org Subject: WG Review: Recharter of Operational Security Capabilities for IP Network Infrastructure (opsec) A modified charter has been submitted for the Operational Security Capabilities for IP Network Infrastructure (opsec) working group in the Operations and Management Area of the IETF. The IESG has not made any determination as yet. The modified charter is provided below for informational purposes only. Please send your comments to the IESG mailing list (iesg@ietf.org) by Tuesday, September 9, 2008. Operational Security Capabilities for IP Network Infrastructure (opsec) ======================================================================= Last Modified: 2008-08-28 Current Status: Active Working Group Chair(s): Joe Abley Joel Jaeggli Operations and Management Area Director(s): Dan Romascanu Ronald Bonica Operations and Management Area Advisor: Ronald Bonica Mailing Lists: General Discussion: opsec@ietf.org To Subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec In Body: In Body: subscribe Archive: 2008 and later: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/opsec/current/maillist.html 2007 and prior: http://ops.ietf.org/lists/opsec/ Description of Working Group: Goals: The OPSEC WG will document best current practices with regard to network security. In particular an effort will be made to clarify the rationale supporting current operational practice, address gaps in currently understood best practices for forwarding, control plane, and management plane security and make clear the liabilities inherent in security practices where they exist. Scope: The scope of the OPSEC WG is intended to include the protection and secure operation of the forwarding, control and management planes. Documentation of best common practices, revision of existing operational security practices documents and proposals for new approaches to operational challenges are in scope. Method: It is expected that the work product of the working group will fall into the category of best current practices documents. Taxonomy or problem statement documents may provide a basis for best current practices documents. Best Current Practices Document For each topic addressed, a document will be produced that attempts to capture current practices related to secure operation. This will be primarily based on operational experience. Each entry will list: * threats addressed, * current practices for addressing the threat, * protocols, tools and technologies extant at the time of writing that are used to address the threat, * the possibility that a solution does not exist within existing tools or technologies. Taxonomy and Problem Statement Documents A document which attempts to describe the scope of particular operational security challenge or problem space without necessarily coming to a conclusion or proposing a solution. Such a document might be a precursor to a best common practices document. While the principal input of the Working Group are operational experience and needs, the output should be directed both to provide guidance to the operators community as well as to Working Groups that develop protocols or the community of protocol developers at large, as well as to the implementers of these protocols. Non-Goals: The Operations security working group is not the place to do new protocols. New protocol work should be addressed in a working group chartered in the appropriate area or as individual submissions. The OPSEC WG may take on documents related to the practices of using such work. Goals and Milestones: Nov 08 - Submit a draft to the IESG regarding filtering of ICMP messages in the backbone Mar 09 - Submit a draft to the IESG regarding backbone threats and mitigations Mar 09 - Submit a draft to the IESG regarding BGP Session Security _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Sun Sep 7 12:23:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097C13A69B0; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 12:23:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8B63A69B0 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 12:23:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RC1WLulzKiZU for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 12:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cliffie.verisignlabs.com (cliffie.verisignlabs.com [65.201.175.9]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088513A698A for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 12:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sirocco.local (pool-71-178-166-113.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.178.166.113]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cliffie.verisignlabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3803D1366EE; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 15:23:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 15:23:34 -0400 From: Matt Larson To: Peter Koch Message-ID: <20080907192333.GB2804@sirocco.local> References: <20080819181713.GN1740@unknown.office.denic.de> <200808201313.m7KDDQUM022984@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080821150229.GF988@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <20080821155656.GC6169@unknown.office.denic.de> <20080826140343.GA5970@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <200808271243.m7RCh4GA013966@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080828124613.GH14541@unknown.office.denic.de> <22iqtg55sy.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> <20080901140851.GA19747@unknown.office.denic.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080901140851.GA19747@unknown.office.denic.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: IETF DNS Directorate Subject: [dns-dir] dns dir meeting on 8 September? (was Re: Meeting/TelCo 2008-09-01 conference logistics) X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Dear colleagues, On Mon, 01 Sep 2008, Peter Koch wrote: > well' I have been on the call since 1555 but nobody joined, maybe because > the "chairperson" is missing. The doodle feedback at > > was a bit unconclusive, but I'd suggest we give it a try next week, same > time, same draft agenda. Is there in fact a dns-dir meeting tomorrow, 8 September, at 1600 Paris local time? Matt _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Sun Sep 7 13:00:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2D43A6959; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 13:00:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F68B3A68AA for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 13:00:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.458 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.458 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.509, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, MANGLED_FREE=2.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f8spa3R7h8TL for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 13:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.denic.de (gw-office.denic.de [81.91.160.182]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8019B3A67D1 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 13:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x27.adm.denic.de ([10.122.64.128]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1KcQQY-0007N8-0k; Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:00:06 +0200 Received: from localhost by x27.adm.denic.de with local id 1KcQP2-0008TJ-7f; Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:58:32 +0200 Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 21:58:32 +0200 From: Peter Koch To: Matt Larson Message-ID: <20080907195832.GB25517@x27.adm.denic.de> References: <200808201313.m7KDDQUM022984@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080821150229.GF988@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <20080821155656.GC6169@unknown.office.denic.de> <20080826140343.GA5970@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <200808271243.m7RCh4GA013966@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080828124613.GH14541@unknown.office.denic.de> <22iqtg55sy.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> <20080901140851.GA19747@unknown.office.denic.de> <20080907192333.GB2804@sirocco.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080907192333.GB2804@sirocco.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] dns dir meeting on 8 September? (was Re: Meeting/TelCo 2008-09-01 conference logistics) X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Hello Matt, > Is there in fact a dns-dir meeting tomorrow, 8 September, at 1600 > Paris local time? yes, that's the plan. For the draft agenda see my mail dated September, 1st. The meeting logistics are: Monday, 8 September, 1400-1500 UTC US (east) +1 7183541169 US (west) +1 4089616553 NL +31 202013852 UK +44 2078193600 FR +33 171230055 SE +46 858536827 CA 18667425608 FI +358 969379595 DE +49 6950070811 Conference Code: 4227104 I'll be available on jabber as . Thnaks to Roy and Nominet for providing the telco facilities. -Peter _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 8 06:39:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF9E3A6BF0; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 06:39:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148923A6B55 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 06:39:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.434 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.434 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.135, BAYES_00=-2.599, MANGLED_FREE=2.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SSSyYN70R5qg for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 06:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D1C3A68B5 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 06:39:56 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,358,1217808000"; d="scan'208";a="19184945" Received: from ams-dkim-2.cisco.com ([144.254.224.139]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2008 13:39:50 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m88DdnRu023676; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:39:49 +0200 Received: from xbh-ams-331.emea.cisco.com (xbh-ams-331.cisco.com [144.254.231.71]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m88DdmwE021119; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:39:49 GMT Received: from xfe-ams-331.emea.cisco.com ([144.254.231.72]) by xbh-ams-331.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:38:57 +0200 Received: from host-n126-250.homerun.telia.com ([10.61.97.69]) by xfe-ams-331.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:38:56 +0200 Message-ID: <48C52AC9.605@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:38:17 +0200 From: Mark Townsley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Koch References: <200808201313.m7KDDQUM022984@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080821150229.GF988@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <20080821155656.GC6169@unknown.office.denic.de> <20080826140343.GA5970@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <200808271243.m7RCh4GA013966@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080828124613.GH14541@unknown.office.denic.de> <22iqtg55sy.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> <20080901140851.GA19747@unknown.office.denic.de> <20080907192333.GB2804@sirocco.local> <20080907195832.GB25517@x27.adm.denic.de> In-Reply-To: <20080907195832.GB25517@x27.adm.denic.de> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2008 13:38:56.0709 (UTC) FILETIME=[3DE8C750:01C911B8] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1028; t=1220881190; x=1221745190; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=townsley@cisco.com; z=From:=20Mark=20Townsley=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[dns-dir]=20dns=20dir=20meeting=20on=20 8=20September?=20(was=20Re=3A=09Meeting/TelCo=0A=202008-09-0 1=20conference=20logistics) |Sender:=20; bh=AwW8lOOqob1hfTWJwz4M+H28V+G/gHSCf4BMXvtpdYU=; b=pCkgdQJmRhBuZ1l4t9OdZS/4nfSUuP/zE4iYEGzTM4kxxVXerQAYldJXXD wvJ2di/pLMUvw4sqHeApYagaQY17cd4toUC9aigZ0696yk6dKNkz7VQbj8hk ghe6i4jtky; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-2; header.From=townsley@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/amsdkim2001 verified; ); Cc: Roy Arends , IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] dns dir meeting on 8 September? (was Re: Meeting/TelCo 2008-09-01 conference logistics) X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Apologies for missing the call today, alas I was in transit.... Can't wait to get the notes though. Big thanks to Peter and Roy for handling the administrative tasks. - Mark Peter Koch wrote: > Hello Matt, > > >> Is there in fact a dns-dir meeting tomorrow, 8 September, at 1600 >> Paris local time? >> > > yes, that's the plan. For the draft agenda see my mail dated September, 1st. > The meeting logistics are: > > Monday, 8 September, 1400-1500 UTC > > US (east) +1 7183541169 > US (west) +1 4089616553 > NL +31 202013852 > UK +44 2078193600 > FR +33 171230055 > SE +46 858536827 > CA 18667425608 > FI +358 969379595 > DE +49 6950070811 > > Conference Code: 4227104 > > I'll be available on jabber as . Thnaks to Roy and > Nominet for providing the telco facilities. > > -Peter > _______________________________________________ > dns-dir mailing list > dns-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir > > _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 8 06:48:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396073A69B5; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 06:48:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF3228C0ED for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 06:48:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, MANGLED_FREE=2.3, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6azHW1BxubA5 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 06:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36A33A6988 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 06:48:36 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,358,1217808000"; d="scan'208";a="19185432" Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2008 13:48:10 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m88DmA9K023337; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:48:10 +0200 Received: from xbh-ams-331.emea.cisco.com (xbh-ams-331.cisco.com [144.254.231.71]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m88DmAMS022645; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:48:10 GMT Received: from xfe-ams-331.emea.cisco.com ([144.254.231.72]) by xbh-ams-331.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:48:03 +0200 Received: from [192.165.72.13] ([10.61.99.228]) by xfe-ams-331.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:48:02 +0200 Message-Id: <2A72820F-7364-41F5-B1C0-E79E5A1FCF80@cisco.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= To: Mark Townsley In-Reply-To: <48C52AC9.605@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:48:02 +0200 References: <200808201313.m7KDDQUM022984@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080821150229.GF988@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <20080821155656.GC6169@unknown.office.denic.de> <20080826140343.GA5970@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <200808271243.m7RCh4GA013966@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080828124613.GH14541@unknown.office.denic.de> <22iqtg55sy.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> <20080901140851.GA19747@unknown.office.denic.de> <20080907192333.GB2804@sirocco.local> <20080907195832.GB25517@x27.adm.denic.de> <48C52AC9.605@cisco.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2008 13:48:02.0992 (UTC) FILETIME=[8384F300:01C911B9] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1310; t=1220881690; x=1221745690; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim1002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=paf@cisco.com; z=From:=20=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=3DE4ltstr=3DF6m?=3D=20

|Subject:=20Re=3A=20[dns-dir]=20dns=20dir=20meeting=20on=20 8=20September?=20(was=20Re=3A=09Meeting/TelCo=202008-09-01=2 0conference=20logistics) |Sender:=20; bh=YKdguUXFgms5RR/+vO6WKH1gPG9E4CHtCcp3NVkMoeo=; b=meOOk2O3M7PxRik2YocPBlsI+1EdE4130nHeSL6YcS9kBRMdNWenw7Udku 5cz1tp00zfVsy3dZejhKKEFMpcJ47aByaUhHbYRJcEfoUdjPQaJ+MGbprjK3 QxNug0D9Qo; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=paf@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/amsdkim1002 verified; ); Cc: Peter Koch , Roy Arends , IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] dns dir meeting on 8 September? (was Re: Meeting/TelCo 2008-09-01 conference logistics) X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Hmm....14:00 UTC is in 13 minutes... Patrik On 8 sep 2008, at 15.38, Mark Townsley wrote: > > Apologies for missing the call today, alas I was in transit.... Can't > wait to get the notes though. > > Big thanks to Peter and Roy for handling the administrative tasks. > > - Mark > > Peter Koch wrote: >> Hello Matt, >> >> >>> Is there in fact a dns-dir meeting tomorrow, 8 September, at 1600 >>> Paris local time? >>> >> >> yes, that's the plan. For the draft agenda see my mail dated >> September, 1st. >> The meeting logistics are: >> >> Monday, 8 September, 1400-1500 UTC >> >> US (east) +1 7183541169 >> US (west) +1 4089616553 >> NL +31 202013852 >> UK +44 2078193600 >> FR +33 171230055 >> SE +46 858536827 >> CA 18667425608 >> FI +358 969379595 >> DE +49 6950070811 >> >> Conference Code: 4227104 >> >> I'll be available on jabber as . Thnaks to Roy and >> Nominet for providing the telco facilities. >> >> -Peter >> _______________________________________________ >> dns-dir mailing list >> dns-dir@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > dns-dir mailing list > dns-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 8 07:04:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7713A6A1E; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:04:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0960F3A6A3F for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:04:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.011 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.288, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kVlhu-ZDObxw for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E783A6A1E for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:04:41 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,358,1217808000"; d="scan'208";a="19185795" Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2008 14:04:44 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m88E4i7h025353 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:04:44 +0200 Received: from xbh-ams-331.emea.cisco.com (xbh-ams-331.cisco.com [144.254.231.71]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m88E4hEU024341 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:04:44 GMT Received: from xfe-ams-332.cisco.com ([144.254.231.73]) by xbh-ams-331.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:59:48 +0200 Received: from [192.165.72.13] ([10.61.99.228]) by xfe-ams-332.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:59:48 +0200 Message-Id: <834ECA2B-B8FF-41A8-9CB8-220D2430E498@cisco.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= To: IETF DNS Directorate Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:59:47 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2008 13:59:48.0751 (UTC) FILETIME=[282F39F0:01C911BB] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=2; t=1220882684; x=1221746684; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim1002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=paf@cisco.com; z=From:=20=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=3DE4ltstr=3DF6m?=3D=20

|Subject:=20Will=20be=205=20min=20late... |Sender:=20; bh=frcCV1k9oG9oKj3dpUqdJg1PxRT2RSN/XKdLCPjaYaY=; b=r8hj8l29oZ1fqhn330Pceb8o2Y/e3d8LNk9EMvXMut/3quefFgHYev/xgp 84XBva21lcLjHmLiUlwDIDexBQXsvXHyHrPn0ebqQ/wAFlZ+YNryrMWNFNT+ pZbKuYSAHQ; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=paf@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/amsdkim1002 verified; ); Subject: [dns-dir] Will be 5 min late... X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 8 07:24:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B16F3A68DB; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:24:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D883A683B for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:24:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.069 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.069 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.230, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zdyzan+GHWBO for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rtp-iport-1.cisco.com (rtp-iport-1.cisco.com [64.102.122.148]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFF428B23E for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:24:42 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,358,1217808000"; d="scan'208";a="20058068" Received: from rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com ([64.102.121.158]) by rtp-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2008 14:24:45 +0000 Received: from rtp-core-1.cisco.com (rtp-core-1.cisco.com [64.102.124.12]) by rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m88EOjLL018017 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:24:45 -0400 Received: from xbh-ams-332.emea.cisco.com (xbh-ams-332.cisco.com [144.254.231.87]) by rtp-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m88EOhsi008755 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:24:45 GMT Received: from xfe-ams-331.emea.cisco.com ([144.254.231.72]) by xbh-ams-332.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:24:41 +0200 Received: from [192.165.72.13] ([10.61.99.228]) by xfe-ams-331.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:24:41 +0200 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= To: IETF DNS Directorate Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:24:40 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2008 14:24:41.0117 (UTC) FILETIME=[A1B434D0:01C911BE] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=123; t=1220883885; x=1221747885; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim1001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=paf@cisco.com; z=From:=20=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=3DE4ltstr=3DF6m?=3D=20

|Subject:=20Document=20with=20test-tlds |Sender:=20 |To:=20IETF=20DNS=20Directorate=20; bh=Fj70LRp+eLfhYkHkLkRSd6NtzuGrR00Y2fqmMxgLxu4=; b=Ww2RiEOqIpG7fPFNbtgUPmzZIFUrshp2oDS89UpGjS2r5kN+V/fWyPNJEE 748J+H00d3YG8oWbfprZXPX8DXJNTUzveHG4Ehyv7RspCvMwT3j+TqI+Tt8f 0/AdOo1/To; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-1; header.From=paf@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/rtpdkim1001 verified; ); Subject: [dns-dir] Document with test-tlds X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org draft-ellermann-idnabis-test-tlds-12.txt http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ellermann-idnabis-test-tlds-12 Patrik _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 8 07:46:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC00C3A6BDD; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:46:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7703A6ADF for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:46:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.204, BAYES_00=-2.599, MANGLED_FREE=2.3, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bX2tFUM3sZal for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com (rtp-iport-2.cisco.com [64.102.122.149]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD293A69BD for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:46:04 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,358,1217808000"; d="scan'208";a="20037062" Received: from rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com ([64.102.121.159]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2008 14:46:07 +0000 Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com (rtp-core-2.cisco.com [64.102.124.13]) by rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m88Ek7Ct001704; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:46:07 -0400 Received: from xbh-ams-331.emea.cisco.com (xbh-ams-331.cisco.com [144.254.231.71]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m88EjSLS029525; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:46:06 GMT Received: from xfe-ams-332.cisco.com ([144.254.231.73]) by xbh-ams-331.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:46:00 +0200 Received: from host-n126-250.homerun.telia.com ([10.61.84.85]) by xfe-ams-332.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:45:59 +0200 Message-ID: <48C53A81.6070609@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:45:21 +0200 From: Mark Townsley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= References: <200808201313.m7KDDQUM022984@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080821150229.GF988@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <20080821155656.GC6169@unknown.office.denic.de> <20080826140343.GA5970@dul1mcmlarson-l1.verisignlabs.com> <200808271243.m7RCh4GA013966@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <20080828124613.GH14541@unknown.office.denic.de> <22iqtg55sy.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> <20080901140851.GA19747@unknown.office.denic.de> <20080907192333.GB2804@sirocco.local> <20080907195832.GB25517@x27.adm.denic.de> <48C52AC9.605@cisco.com> <2A72820F-7364-41F5-B1C0-E79E5A1FCF80@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <2A72820F-7364-41F5-B1C0-E79E5A1FCF80@cisco.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2008 14:45:59.0852 (UTC) FILETIME=[9BE3AEC0:01C911C1] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1669; t=1220885167; x=1221749167; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=townsley@cisco.com; z=From:=20Mark=20Townsley=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[dns-dir]=20dns=20dir=20meeting=20on=20 8=20September?=20(was=20Re=3A=09Meeting/TelCo=0A=202008-09-0 1=20conference=20logistics) |Sender:=20 |To:=20=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=3DE4ltstr=3DF6m?=3D=20; bh=Wx4jzi0Gs0RKY48q+SPow/FJK/Mp9L3deHtXKZ80xiA=; b=dX894dbRSnmrhcDIzPHB/kHa4OTa6+oELJPn0/QY2fKAo+7cuXaNkdMQYn wpEMIGV10YFV+dxoLYN0K278H7RXnazitrDKu0QvqwW7RHzg4a8GGZXdSG6W hY4ZjSyXbU; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-2; header.From=townsley@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/rtpdkim2001 verified; ); Cc: Peter Koch , Roy Arends , IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] dns dir meeting on 8 September? (was Re: Meeting/TelCo 2008-09-01 conference logistics) X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Arrgggh.. We talked so much about making this "Paris Time" at the last = IETF, I didn't notice that the 1400 there said UTC. Uggh. It was in my = MIND as 4pm, but then I looked at the email and thought I missed it. And now it's probably too late. Sigh. - Mark Patrik F=E4ltstr=F6m wrote: > Hmm....14:00 UTC is in 13 minutes... > > Patrik > > On 8 sep 2008, at 15.38, Mark Townsley wrote: > >> >> Apologies for missing the call today, alas I was in transit.... Can't >> wait to get the notes though. >> >> Big thanks to Peter and Roy for handling the administrative tasks. >> >> - Mark >> >> Peter Koch wrote: >>> Hello Matt, >>> >>> >>>> Is there in fact a dns-dir meeting tomorrow, 8 September, at 1600 >>>> Paris local time? >>>> >>> >>> yes, that's the plan. For the draft agenda see my mail dated = >>> September, 1st. >>> The meeting logistics are: >>> >>> Monday, 8 September, 1400-1500 UTC >>> >>> US (east) +1 7183541169 >>> US (west) +1 4089616553 >>> NL +31 202013852 >>> UK +44 2078193600 >>> FR +33 171230055 >>> SE +46 858536827 >>> CA 18667425608 >>> FI +358 969379595 >>> DE +49 6950070811 >>> >>> Conference Code: 4227104 >>> >>> I'll be available on jabber as . Thnaks to Roy and >>> Nominet for providing the telco facilities. >>> >>> -Peter >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dns-dir mailing list >>> dns-dir@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dns-dir mailing list >> dns-dir@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir > > _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 8 07:57:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7073A6A41; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:57:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2193A6A41 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:57:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.107 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.107 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.192, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CDD-6YS1MFu7 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com (rtp-iport-2.cisco.com [64.102.122.149]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD1C3A68A2 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:57:16 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,358,1217808000"; d="scan'208";a="20038802" Received: from rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com ([64.102.121.158]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2008 14:57:20 +0000 Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com (rtp-core-2.cisco.com [64.102.124.13]) by rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m88EvJPr011053 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:57:19 -0400 Received: from xbh-ams-331.emea.cisco.com (xbh-ams-331.cisco.com [144.254.231.71]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m88EvHwm004213 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:57:19 GMT Received: from xfe-ams-332.cisco.com ([144.254.231.73]) by xbh-ams-331.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:57:18 +0200 Received: from [192.165.72.13] ([10.61.99.228]) by xfe-ams-332.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:57:18 +0200 Message-Id: <8046A036-DB38-4FC7-A217-3FB5521D5709@cisco.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= To: IETF DNS Directorate Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:57:18 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2008 14:57:18.0626 (UTC) FILETIME=[30786020:01C911C3] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=581; t=1220885839; x=1221749839; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim1001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=paf@cisco.com; z=From:=20=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=3DE4ltstr=3DF6m?=3D=20

|Subject:=20Contact=20with=20W3C? |Sender:=20 |To:=20IETF=20DNS=20Directorate=20; bh=oqD5GH3qzHv7wHvNeF2SNhoSGeCFO/8QXSNSbLUYxm4=; b=WRWv/i1AkIIUfFpZus9dR9e+Q/JmJ1SNi6FdDYdhwDBeGp5AE9xZi+2fy/ pRrRn+niDtbDKtiDXHqf4u6xn5PvIgs2f/xdG9miVzw26IQDrj8QQbikTiIy 4NKVgEnjQs; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-1; header.From=paf@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/rtpdkim1001 verified; ); Subject: [dns-dir] Contact with W3C? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org There is an ongoing set of coordination calls between W3C and IETF, and the token is held by the Apps Area Directors. For some reason I have been on that mailing list (I now see) until at least jan 30 2008 (!!!!). The Apps people doing work there where then Lisa and Chris. So, I think our suggestion (from DNS-DIR) is that this draft is pointing out a "bug" in cookie spec, and potential action from DNS- people in IETF should not happen unless Apps people say "yes, you have to because we just can not fix the cookie draft". Contact Apps AD! Patrik _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 8 08:31:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0334F3A6AD2; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 08:31:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA543A68FF; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 08:31:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.841 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.841 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.158, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lIVN6wn8C+KD; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 08:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og106.obsmtp.com (exprod7og106.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.165]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE9F3A67F4; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 08:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from source ([66.129.228.6]) by exprod7ob106.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 08:30:42 PDT Received: from pi-smtp.jnpr.net ([10.10.2.36]) by p-emsmtp03.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 08:30:33 -0700 Received: from proton.jnpr.net ([10.10.2.37]) by pi-smtp.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:30:31 -0400 Received: from [172.25.42.160] ([172.25.42.160] RDNS failed) by proton.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:30:31 -0400 Message-ID: <48C54513.2090105@juniper.net> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:30:27 -0400 From: Ron Bonica User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Harrington References: <015d01c90deb$8a116040$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <015d01c90deb$8a116040$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2008 15:30:31.0853 (UTC) FILETIME=[D486ADD0:01C911C7] Cc: opsec@ops.ietf.org, aaa-doctors@ietf.org, "'MIB Doctors \(E-mail\)'" , 'IETF DNS Directorate' , "'ops-area \(IETF\)'" Subject: Re: [dns-dir] [OPS-AREA] FW: WG Review: Recharter of Operational SecurityCapabilities for IP Network Infrastructure (opsec) X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org David Harrington wrote: > Hi, > > Personally, I think the scope is not clearly defined. The very wide > scope makes me concerned that this WG could be one of those that goes > on forever, because very little seems to be out of scope. Dan, OPSEC is intended to be a long-lived working group. This is because operational challenges change from year to year. When a new operational challenge crops up, there is a distinct benefit derived from having a WG in place with some institutional history. OPSEC would by no means be the only long lived WG in the OPS area. DNSOPS, V6OPS, and GROW all come to mind. However, OPSEC scope is not unbounded. OPSEC cannot define a protocol. Given a new operational challenge, it has only two choices: - apply the technology at hand - generate a requirement and toss it over the wall to another WG > > I am also concerned that this is no longer just focused on documenting > best current practice, but also is taking on the task of proposals for > new approaches to operational challenges. I'm not sure that I understand what you are getting at. Could you be more specific? > > One reason why I am concerned is that proposals for other WGs could be > denied on the basis that whatever work somebody else wants to do on > best current practices or new approaches to operational challenges > could be denied because such work would already fit into the OPsec WG > scope. I do not think one WG should claim such a large scope. Again, I am not sure that I am following you. Could you provide an example? Ron > > David Harrington > dbharrington@comcast.net > ietfdbh@comcast.net > dharrington@huawei.com > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org >> [mailto:ops-area-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan) >> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:20 AM >> To: ops-area (IETF); MIB Doctors (E-mail); >> aaa-doctors@ietf.org; IETF DNS Directorate >> Subject: [OPS-AREA] FW: WG Review: Recharter of Operational >> SecurityCapabilities for IP Network Infrastructure (opsec) >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: iesg-bounces@iesg.org [mailto:iesg-bounces@iesg.org] On >> Behalf Of >> The IESG >> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 9:15 PM >> To: new-work@ietf.org >> Subject: WG Review: Recharter of Operational Security Capabilities > for >> IP Network Infrastructure (opsec) >> >> A modified charter has been submitted for the Operational Security >> Capabilities for IP Network Infrastructure (opsec) working >> group in the >> Operations and Management Area of the IETF. The IESG has not made > any >> determination as yet. The modified charter is provided below for >> informational purposes only. Please send your comments to the IESG >> mailing list (iesg@ietf.org) by Tuesday, September 9, 2008. >> >> Operational Security Capabilities for IP Network >> Infrastructure (opsec) >> ============================================================== >> ========= >> >> Last Modified: 2008-08-28 >> >> Current Status: Active Working Group >> >> Chair(s): >> Joe Abley >> Joel Jaeggli >> >> Operations and Management Area Director(s): >> Dan Romascanu >> Ronald Bonica >> >> Operations and Management Area Advisor: >> Ronald Bonica >> >> Mailing Lists: >> General Discussion: opsec@ietf.org >> To Subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec >> In Body: In Body: subscribe >> Archive: 2008 and later: >> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/opsec/current/maillist.html > 2007 >> and prior: http://ops.ietf.org/lists/opsec/ >> >> Description of Working Group: >> Goals: >> >> The OPSEC WG will document best current practices with regard >> to network >> security. In particular an effort will be made to clarify the >> rationale >> supporting current operational practice, address gaps in currently >> understood best practices for forwarding, control plane, and >> management >> plane security and make clear the liabilities inherent in security >> practices where they exist. >> >> Scope: >> >> The scope of the OPSEC WG is intended to include the protection and >> secure operation of the forwarding, control and management planes. >> >> Documentation of best common practices, revision of existing >> operational >> security practices documents and proposals for new approaches to >> operational challenges are in scope. >> >> Method: >> >> It is expected that the work product of the working group >> will fall into >> the category of best current practices documents. Taxonomy or > problem >> statement documents may provide a basis for best current practices >> documents. >> >> Best Current Practices Document >> >> For each topic addressed, a document will be produced that attempts > to >> capture current practices related to secure operation. This will be >> primarily based on operational experience. Each entry will list: >> >> * threats addressed, >> * current practices for addressing the threat, >> * protocols, tools and technologies extant at the time of writing > that >> are used to address the threat, >> * the possibility that a solution does not exist within existing > tools >> or technologies. >> >> Taxonomy and Problem Statement Documents >> >> A document which attempts to describe the scope of particular >> operational security challenge or problem space without necessarily >> coming to a conclusion or proposing a solution. Such a >> document might be >> a precursor to a best common practices document. >> >> While the principal input of the Working Group are operational >> experience and needs, the output should be directed both to provide >> guidance to the operators community as well as to Working Groups > that >> develop protocols or the community of protocol developers at large, > as >> well as to the implementers of these protocols. >> >> Non-Goals: >> >> The Operations security working group is not the place to do new >> protocols. >> >> New protocol work should be addressed in a working group chartered > in >> the appropriate area or as individual submissions. The OPSEC >> WG may take >> on documents related to the practices of using such work. >> >> Goals and Milestones: >> >> Nov 08 - Submit a draft to the IESG regarding filtering of >> ICMP messages >> in the backbone >> >> Mar 09 - Submit a draft to the IESG regarding backbone threats and >> mitigations >> >> Mar 09 - Submit a draft to the IESG regarding BGP Session Security >> _______________________________________________ >> OPS-AREA mailing list >> OPS-AREA@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area >> > > _______________________________________________ > OPS-AREA mailing list > OPS-AREA@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area > _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 15 09:12:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206E53A6AFD; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:12:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391CA3A6D00 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:36:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.976 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.976 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.623, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kjMJB7CME6Ir for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214523A6CFD for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id AEJC1a00G0lTkoCA2Hc4X9; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:36:04 +0000 Received: from Harrington73653 ([24.128.66.199]) by OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id AHc21a00C4HwxpC8QHc32S; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:36:04 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cM5N9monJ6wA:10 a=JDh2sXtvymYA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=PsiY1ksHDJ-u4R_eST4A:9 a=6gfczsfAh7p3oRfItKoA:7 a=631f4-gVKLmySGg1gu6ASQ0KFoQA:4 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=hPjdaMEvmhQA:10 a=lZB815dzVvQA:10 a=5g1bGOLZ_csA:10 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 From: "David Harrington" To: "'Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)'" , "'ops-area \(IETF\)'" , "'MIB Doctors \(E-mail\)'" , , "'IETF DNS Directorate'" References: Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:36:02 -0400 Message-ID: <015d01c90deb$8a116040$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckNMfTGj+9g+1gyTpSuJGRtGgzv3gAhPPQAAAwySRA= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:12:45 -0700 Subject: Re: [dns-dir] [OPS-AREA] FW: WG Review: Recharter of Operational SecurityCapabilities for IP Network Infrastructure (opsec) X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Hi, Personally, I think the scope is not clearly defined. The very wide scope makes me concerned that this WG could be one of those that goes on forever, because very little seems to be out of scope. I am also concerned that this is no longer just focused on documenting best current practice, but also is taking on the task of proposals for new approaches to operational challenges. One reason why I am concerned is that proposals for other WGs could be denied on the basis that whatever work somebody else wants to do on best current practices or new approaches to operational challenges could be denied because such work would already fit into the OPsec WG scope. I do not think one WG should claim such a large scope. David Harrington dbharrington@comcast.net ietfdbh@comcast.net dharrington@huawei.com > -----Original Message----- > From: ops-area-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:ops-area-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:20 AM > To: ops-area (IETF); MIB Doctors (E-mail); > aaa-doctors@ietf.org; IETF DNS Directorate > Subject: [OPS-AREA] FW: WG Review: Recharter of Operational > SecurityCapabilities for IP Network Infrastructure (opsec) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: iesg-bounces@iesg.org [mailto:iesg-bounces@iesg.org] On > Behalf Of > The IESG > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 9:15 PM > To: new-work@ietf.org > Subject: WG Review: Recharter of Operational Security Capabilities for > IP Network Infrastructure (opsec) > > A modified charter has been submitted for the Operational Security > Capabilities for IP Network Infrastructure (opsec) working > group in the > Operations and Management Area of the IETF. The IESG has not made any > determination as yet. The modified charter is provided below for > informational purposes only. Please send your comments to the IESG > mailing list (iesg@ietf.org) by Tuesday, September 9, 2008. > > Operational Security Capabilities for IP Network > Infrastructure (opsec) > ============================================================== > ========= > > Last Modified: 2008-08-28 > > Current Status: Active Working Group > > Chair(s): > Joe Abley > Joel Jaeggli > > Operations and Management Area Director(s): > Dan Romascanu > Ronald Bonica > > Operations and Management Area Advisor: > Ronald Bonica > > Mailing Lists: > General Discussion: opsec@ietf.org > To Subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec > In Body: In Body: subscribe > Archive: 2008 and later: > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/opsec/current/maillist.html 2007 > and prior: http://ops.ietf.org/lists/opsec/ > > Description of Working Group: > Goals: > > The OPSEC WG will document best current practices with regard > to network > security. In particular an effort will be made to clarify the > rationale > supporting current operational practice, address gaps in currently > understood best practices for forwarding, control plane, and > management > plane security and make clear the liabilities inherent in security > practices where they exist. > > Scope: > > The scope of the OPSEC WG is intended to include the protection and > secure operation of the forwarding, control and management planes. > > Documentation of best common practices, revision of existing > operational > security practices documents and proposals for new approaches to > operational challenges are in scope. > > Method: > > It is expected that the work product of the working group > will fall into > the category of best current practices documents. Taxonomy or problem > statement documents may provide a basis for best current practices > documents. > > Best Current Practices Document > > For each topic addressed, a document will be produced that attempts to > capture current practices related to secure operation. This will be > primarily based on operational experience. Each entry will list: > > * threats addressed, > * current practices for addressing the threat, > * protocols, tools and technologies extant at the time of writing that > are used to address the threat, > * the possibility that a solution does not exist within existing tools > or technologies. > > Taxonomy and Problem Statement Documents > > A document which attempts to describe the scope of particular > operational security challenge or problem space without necessarily > coming to a conclusion or proposing a solution. Such a > document might be > a precursor to a best common practices document. > > While the principal input of the Working Group are operational > experience and needs, the output should be directed both to provide > guidance to the operators community as well as to Working Groups that > develop protocols or the community of protocol developers at large, as > well as to the implementers of these protocols. > > Non-Goals: > > The Operations security working group is not the place to do new > protocols. > > New protocol work should be addressed in a working group chartered in > the appropriate area or as individual submissions. The OPSEC > WG may take > on documents related to the practices of using such work. > > Goals and Milestones: > > Nov 08 - Submit a draft to the IESG regarding filtering of > ICMP messages > in the backbone > > Mar 09 - Submit a draft to the IESG regarding backbone threats and > mitigations > > Mar 09 - Submit a draft to the IESG regarding BGP Session Security > _______________________________________________ > OPS-AREA mailing list > OPS-AREA@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-area > _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 15 09:12:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B9B28C126; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:12:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51D328C0F3 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:08:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.931 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.931 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.746, BAYES_40=-0.185] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n7Ri4BP+6bOy for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD6328C0D8 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DUZr1a0030EZKEL55W8JKc; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:08:18 +0000 Received: from Harrington73653 ([24.128.66.199]) by OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DW8E1a00F4HwxpC3MW8FPg; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:08:16 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=M-WEn988ly4A:10 a=JDh2sXtvymYA:10 a=ADlCPGQEtVwJduZoNLIA:9 a=cb9lcmS93MMfwKMK0RusxGr6jawA:4 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=hPjdaMEvmhQA:10 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 From: "David Harrington" To: "'Ron Bonica'" References: <015d01c90deb$8a116040$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> <48C54513.2090105@juniper.net> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:08:14 -0400 Message-ID: <025a01c91439$5cd871f0$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <48C54513.2090105@juniper.net> Thread-Index: AckRx9XO2KDx8WfyQrOiykdQPYxoIQCcM4qA X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:12:45 -0700 Cc: opsec@ops.ietf.org, aaa-doctors@ietf.org, "'MIB Doctors \(E-mail\)'" , 'IETF DNS Directorate' , "'ops-area \(IETF\)'" Subject: Re: [dns-dir] [OPS-AREA] FW: WG Review: Recharter of Operational SecurityCapabilities for IP Network Infrastructure (opsec) X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Hi, > > However, OPSEC scope is not unbounded. OPSEC cannot define a protocol. > Given a new operational challenge, it has only two choices: > > - apply the technology at hand > - generate a requirement and toss it over the wall to another WG > That is not how I would interpret: "and proposals for new approaches to operational challenges are in scope" That sounds to me like "propose a solution", not "generate a requirement". David Harrington dbharrington@comcast.net ietfdbh@comcast.net dharrington@huawei.com _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Fri Sep 19 07:28:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DAE3A69BD; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:28:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBF03A68A9; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:28:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.422 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.422 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.177, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3dWc8ln1qZh4; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F7A3A69BD; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:28:34 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,429,1217822400"; d="scan'208";a="122288750" Received: from unknown (HELO nj300815-nj-erheast.avaya.com) ([198.152.6.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 19 Sep 2008 10:28:48 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.10]) by nj300815-nj-erheast-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 19 Sep 2008 10:28:47 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:28:36 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for September 25, 2008 Telechat Thread-Index: AckZ4G9r71fP/5rKSFaYntjbkGPlaAAgz3KA From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: , "IETF DNS Directorate" , , "MIB Doctors (E-mail)" Subject: [dns-dir] FW: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for September 25, 2008 Telechat X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Please find below the preliminary agenda of the 9/25 IESG telechat. Please review all relevant documents and send me your questions, comments and concerns until 9/24 COB the latest. Thanks and Regards, 2. Protocol Actions Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable basis on which to build the salient part of the Internet infrastructure? If not, what changes would make it so?" 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-forces-model-15.txt ForCES Forwarding Element Model (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 7 Token: Ross Callon o draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification-12.txt CAPWAP Protocol Specification (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 7 Token: Dan Romascanu o draft-ietf-capwap-dhc-ac-option-01.txt CAPWAP Access Controller DHCP Option (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 7 Token: Dan Romascanu o draft-ietf-ccamp-isis-interas-te-extension-04.txt ISIS Extensions in Support of Inter-AS Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) and Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) Traffic Engineering (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 7 Token: Ross Callon o draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpcsec-gss-v2-05.txt RPCSEC_GSS Version 2 (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 7 Note: Document Shepherd: Spencer Shepler (spencer.shepler@gmail.com). Token: Lars Eggert o draft-ietf-mipshop-mstp-solution-06.txt Mobility Services Framework Design (MSFD) (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 7 Token: Jari Arkko o draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-08.txt CAPWAP Protocol Binding for IEEE 802.11 (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 7 Token: Dan Romascanu 2.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-manet-packetbb-15.txt Generalized MANET Packet/Message Format (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 2 Token: Ross Callon o draft-ietf-manet-timetlv-07.txt Representing multi-value time in MANETs (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 2 Token: Ross Callon 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item o draft-sanchez-webdav-current-principal-01.txt WebDAV Current Principal Extension (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1 Token: Lisa Dusseault 2.2.2 Returning Item o draft-wilde-sms-uri-16.txt URI Scheme for GSM Short Message Service (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1 Token: Lisa Dusseault 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it covers? If not, what changes would make it so?" 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-capwap-threat-analysis-04.txt CAPWAP Threat Analysis for IEEE 802.11 Deployments (Informational) - 1 of 1 Token: Dan Romascanu 3.1.2 Returning Item NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it covers? If not, what changes would make it so?" 3.2.1 New Item NONE 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor The IESG will use RFC 3932 responses: 1) The IESG has not found any conflict between this document and IETF work; 2) The IESG thinks that this work is related to IETF work done in WG , but this does not prevent publishing; 3) The IESG thinks that publication is harmful to work in WG and recommends not publishing at this time; 4) The IESG thinks that this document violates the IETF procedures for and should therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG approval; 5) The IESG thinks that this document extends an IETF protocol in a way that requires IETF review and should therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG approval. The document shepherd must propose one of these responses in the Data Tracker note and supply complete text in the IESG Note portion of the write-up. The Area Director ballot positions indicate consensus with the response proposed by the document shepherd. Other matters may be recorded in comments, and the comments will be passed on to the RFC Editor as community review of the document. _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Fri Sep 19 07:49:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFF528C122; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:49:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D99D28C15B for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:49:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.911 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.911 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.688, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zrFiI8deDzUz for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F252628C106 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Puki.ogud.com (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8JEnGS5056638; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:49:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) Message-Id: <200809191449.m8JEnGS5056638@stora.ogud.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:48:21 -0400 To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" From: Olafur Gudmundsson In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 10.20.30.4 Cc: dns-dir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dns-dir] FW: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for September 25, 2008 Telechat X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org At 10:28 19/09/2008, you wrote: > o draft-ietf-mipshop-mstp-solution-06.txt > Mobility Services Framework Design (MSFD) (Proposed Standard) - 6 of >7 > > Token: Jari Arkko History of draft: draft-melia-mipshop-mstp-solution-00.txt 27 draft-melia-mipshop-mstp-solution-01.txt 33 draft-ietf-mipshop-mstp-solution-00.txt 33 draft-ietf-mipshop-mstp-solution-01.txt 34 draft-ietf-mipshop-mstp-solution-02.txt 35 draft-ietf-mipshop-mstp-solution-03.txt 35 draft-ietf-mipshop-mstp-solution-04.txt 33 draft-ietf-mipshop-mstp-solution-06.txt 26 Someone needs to take a look at this one (again). Olafur _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Fri Sep 19 18:28:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A685C3A6805; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:28:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006413A6805 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:28:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.647 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.647 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.648, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ki+FR1VMHz2D for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253513A67D7 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8K1SPnM067683 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:28:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: ogud@ogud.com Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:28:25 -0400 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-new.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "ogud" Message-ID: <20080920_012825_092539.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 10.20.30.4 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS Early warning: /homidmbox/ietf-doc/id_new/draft-ietf-nfsv4-minorversion1-26.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Count: 15 NFSv4 S. Shepler Internet-Draft M. Eisler Intended status: Standards Track D. Noveck Expires: March 9, 2009 Editors September 05, 2008 NFS Version 4 Minor Version 1 draft-ietf-nfsv4-minorversion1-26.txt Abstract This Internet-Draft describes NFS version 4 minor version one, including features retained from the base protocol and protocol extensions made subsequently. Major extensions introduced in NFS version 4 minor version one include: Sessions, Directory Delegations, and parallel NFS (pNFS). Requirements Language The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119 [1]. _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Fri Sep 19 18:35:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320B73A69FC; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE763A69DA for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.915 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.915 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.684, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NvRFhp3AJyYe for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB283A69EB for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8K1SO9Y067648 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:28:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: ogud@ogud.com Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:28:25 -0400 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-new.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "ogud" Message-ID: <20080920_012825_011906.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 10.20.30.4 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS Early warning: /homidmbox/ietf-doc/id_new/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-types-00.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Count: 13 Network Working Group J. Schoenwaelder, Ed. Internet-Draft Jacobs University Intended status: Standards Track September 4, 2008 Expires: March 8, 2009 Common YANG Data Types draft-ietf-netmod-yang-types-00 Abstract This document introduces a collection of common data types to be used with the YANG data modeling language. _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Fri Sep 19 18:35:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9073A69EB; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65633A69DA for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.947 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.947 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.652, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NXogZ+awZIkj for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93BA3A69FC for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8K1SQh3067945 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:28:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: ogud@ogud.com Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:28:26 -0400 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-new.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "ogud" Message-ID: <20080920_012826_000522.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 10.20.30.4 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS Early warning: /homidmbox/ietf-doc/id_new/draft-martin-managesieve-12.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Count: 25 Sieve Working Group A. Melnikov, Ed. Internet-Draft Isode Limited Intended status: Standards Track T. Martin Expires: March 17, 2009 BeThereBeSquare Inc. September 13, 2008 A Protocol for Remotely Managing Sieve Scripts draft-martin-managesieve-12 Abstract Sieve scripts allow users to filter incoming email. Message stores are commonly sealed servers so users cannot log into them, yet users must be able to update their scripts on them. This document describes a protocol "ManageSieve" for securely managing Sieve scripts on a remote server. This protocol allows a user to have multiple scripts, and also alerts a user to syntactically flawed scripts. Changes since draft-martin-managesieve-09 _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Fri Sep 19 18:35:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501843A69FC; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5103A69DA for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.622, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q31BvQWQucJE for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFDB3A6A00 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8K1SRsh068033 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:28:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: ogud@ogud.com Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:28:27 -0400 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-new.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "ogud" Message-ID: <20080920_012827_030635.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 10.20.30.4 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS Early warning: /homidmbox/ietf-doc/id_new/draft-wing-nat-pt-replacement-comparison-00.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Count: 74 Behave and Softwires WGs D. Wing Internet-Draft D. Ward Intended status: Informational Cisco Expires: March 20, 2009 A. Durand Comcast September 16, 2008 A Comparison of Proposals to Replace NAT-PT draft-wing-nat-pt-replacement-comparison-00 Abstract As we approach IPv4 address depletion, the IETF must provide for IPv4 and IPv6 coexistence: a way for ISPs and enterprises to reduce public IPv4 address consumption and a way for hosts to migrate to IPv6 connectivity -- while providing reasonable access for those IPv6 hosts to access the IPv4 Internet. This draft compares seven proposals for IPv6 and IPv4 coexistence. _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Fri Sep 19 18:35:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2343A69C6; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA0D3A69C4 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.004 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.004 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.595, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wOhGgy6Hdtsj for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48693A69EB for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8K1SPMo067718 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:28:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: ogud@ogud.com Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:28:25 -0400 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-new.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "ogud" Message-ID: <20080920_012825_044781.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 10.20.30.4 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS Early warning: /homidmbox/ietf-doc/id_new/draft-miyata-v6ops-snatpt-01.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Count: 11 Internet Engineering Task Force H. Miyata Internet-Draft M. Endo Intended status: Experimental Yokogawa Electric Corp. Expires: March 8, 2009 September 8, 2008 sNAT-PT: Simplified Network Address Translation - Protocol Translation draft-miyata-v6ops-snatpt-01 Abstract This document specifies an IPv4-to-IPv6 transition mechanism to provide accessibility for IPv6 node to IPv4 node, and vice-versa. The goal of this document is not providing the most fundamental technology which could works well with additional technology. We used to have an technology called NAT-PT[RFC2766]. NAT-PT was designed to work with problematic DNS Application Level Gateway. So, it was changed to historical state by [RFC4966]. This document attempts to simplify NAT-PT specification, removing dependability on Application Layer Gateway as well as resolving problems pointed in [RFC4966]. _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Fri Sep 19 18:35:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65ACD3A69EB; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C833A69C4 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.029 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.029 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.570, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LIibllccNCrA for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480453A69DA for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m8K1SRXK067992 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:28:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: ogud@ogud.com Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:28:27 -0400 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-new.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "ogud" Message-ID: <20080920_012827_038720.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 10.20.30.4 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS Early warning: /homidmbox/ietf-doc/id_new/draft-baker-behave-ivi-00.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Count: 22 Behave X. Li Internet-Draft C. Bao Updates: 2765, 2766 CERNET Center/Tsinghua University (if approved) F. Baker Intended status: Standards Track Cisco Systems Expires: March 19, 2009 September 15, 2008 IVI Update to SIIT and NAT-PT draft-baker-behave-ivi-00 Abstract This note proposes an address and service architecture designed to facilitate transition from an IPv4 Internet to an IPv6 Internet. This service contains three parts: A DNS Application Layer Gateway, a stateful Network Address Translator that enables IPv6 clients to initiate connections to IPv4 servers and peers, and a stateless Network Address Translator that enables IPv4 and IPv6 systems to interoperate freely. It is couched as an update to RFCs 2765 and 2766. This is because the stateless service is essentially the SIIT with a different _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 22 08:07:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCEC3A6969; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:07:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DB128C130; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:45:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.418 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.418 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.181, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dz6yfy67JCOV; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A7D3A6AC8; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:45:44 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,429,1217822400"; d="scan'208";a="144274844" Received: from unknown (HELO nj300815-nj-erheast.avaya.com) ([198.152.6.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.avaya.com with ESMTP; 19 Sep 2008 09:45:19 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.10]) by nj300815-nj-erheast-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 19 Sep 2008 09:45:17 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:45:15 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Mail Problems Thread-Index: AckaXfJaz1KltMUORmq3BbOwrj8wBQ== From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: undisclosed-recipients:; X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:07:34 -0700 Subject: [dns-dir] Mail Problems X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org My company mail servers were in trouble for about thirteen hours starting around 7PM ET yesterday 9/18. All mails sent to me during this time got lost. If you believe that you sent me something important during this time please resend. Thanks and Regards, Dan _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 22 08:07:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E4F3A69E8; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:07:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC00F3A6802; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:15:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.42 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.42 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.179, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i3Fkqwvn+g7h; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AAB3A6862; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:14:59 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,429,1217822400"; d="scan'208";a="122286925" Received: from unknown (HELO nj300815-nj-erheast.avaya.com) ([198.152.6.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 19 Sep 2008 10:14:55 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.10]) by nj300815-nj-erheast-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 19 Sep 2008 10:14:53 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:14:51 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Mail Problems Thread-Index: AckaXfJaz1KltMUORmq3BbOwrj8wBQ== From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "IESG" , "IAB" , , "ops-area (IETF)" , , , , , , "IETF DNS Directorate" , , , "MIB Doctors (E-mail)" , X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:07:34 -0700 Subject: [dns-dir] Mail Problems X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org My company mail servers were in trouble for about thirteen hours starting around 7PM ET yesterday 9/18. All mails sent to me during this time got lost. If you believe that you sent me something important during this time please resend. Thanks and Regards, Dan _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Thu Sep 25 10:06:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A620C3A6935; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:06:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D173A68F6; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:06:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.532 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.532 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.067, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zCrbWVYmjVxH; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2153A686A; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:06:13 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,309,1220241600"; d="scan'208";a="122987989" Received: from unknown (HELO nj300815-nj-erheast.avaya.com) ([198.152.6.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 25 Sep 2008 13:05:30 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.10]) by nj300815-nj-erheast-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 25 Sep 2008 13:05:29 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:05:28 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: vacation warning Thread-Index: AckfMJYQlj53RrmiS4K7PrChtLm12g== From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "MIB Doctors (E-mail)" , , , "IETF DNS Directorate" Subject: [dns-dir] vacation warning X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org I will be on vacation 9/29, 9/30 and 10/1 for the Jewish New Year. Then I will be on vacation and traveling between 10/7 and 10/20. I expect scarce Internet connectivity during the two vacation chunks. Dan _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Fri Sep 26 09:57:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7453A6B8A; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:57:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054073A6B8A; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:57:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.539 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.539 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rupj4EDt4gpg; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8063A6ADD; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:57:20 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,315,1220241600"; d="scan'208";a="145278459" Received: from unknown (HELO nj300815-nj-erheast.avaya.com) ([198.152.6.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.avaya.com with ESMTP; 26 Sep 2008 12:55:46 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.10]) by nj300815-nj-erheast-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 26 Sep 2008 12:55:45 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:55:44 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Last Call: draft-ietf-sip-hitchhikers-guide (A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)) to Informational RFC Thread-Index: Ackf8Xchdk2CizJ+SxmdHat6cY+/0QABzLBQ From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: , "IETF DNS Directorate" Subject: [dns-dir] FW: Last Call: draft-ietf-sip-hitchhikers-guide (A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)) to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org -----Original Message----- From: ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of The IESG Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:03 PM To: IETF-Announce Cc: sip@ietf.org Subject: Last Call: draft-ietf-sip-hitchhikers-guide (A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)) to Informational RFC The IESG has received a request from the Session Initiation Protocol WG (sip) to consider the following document: - 'A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) ' as an Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2008-10-10. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. The file can be obtained via http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sip-hitchhikers-guide-05. txt IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag= 14916&rfc_flag=0 _______________________________________________ IETF-Announce mailing list IETF-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 29 07:03:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05B93A69CC; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:03:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB853A67B5 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:03:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.649 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.649 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rHWcwNKu1IJP for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.denic.de (gw-office.denic.de [81.91.160.182]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B71A3A6870 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from denic.de ([10.122.65.106]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1KkJLh-0000KP-QJ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:03:41 +0200 Received: by unknown.office.denic.de (Postfix, from userid 501) id B66B1821F6D; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:03:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:03:41 +0200 From: Peter Koch To: dns-dir@ietf.org Message-ID: <20080929140341.GB11747@unknown.office.denic.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: [dns-dir] Any topics for the next meeting? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Dear fellow DNS directorate members, our schedule lists 6 October, a week from today, as the next date for our regular conference call. As far as I am aware, there's little to do beyond reviewing action items. Unless anyone objects and/or brings forward a topic to discuss, I'd suggest we cancel the upcoming call. -Peter _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir