From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Fri Oct 3 08:00:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E916E28C2B4; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:00:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE7F28C272; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:00:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.558 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.558 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.041, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GzD+G-ZMdnSU; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9900128C1FA; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:00:04 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,356,1220241600"; d="scan'208";a="146070369" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.avaya.com with ESMTP; 03 Oct 2008 10:59:25 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 03 Oct 2008 10:59:24 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:59:21 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for October 9, 2008 Telechat Thread-Index: Ackk3gRuJC7XHyOtQKKmi+Cby8KqDwAiiktA From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: , "MIB Doctors (E-mail)" , "IETF DNS Directorate" , Subject: [dns-dir] FW: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for October 9, 2008 Telechat X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Please find below the preliminary agenda of the 10/9 IESG telechat. Note that I will be on vacation 10/7 to 10/21 and I will not attend the telechat, so please send your comments and concerns to Ron until 10/8 COB the latest. Thanks and Regards, Dan -----Original Message----- From: iesg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iesg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of IESG Secretary 2. Protocol Actions Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable basis on which to build the salient part of the Internet infrastructure? If not, what changes would make it so?" 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-toffset-07.txt Transmission Time offsets in RTP streams (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 6 Note: Tom Taylor is the PROTO Shepherd Token: Cullen Jennings o draft-ietf-sipping-race-examples-06.txt Example calls flows of race conditions in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) (BCP) - 2 of 6 Token: Jon Peterson o draft-ietf-forces-model-15.txt ForCES Forwarding Element Model (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 6 Token: Ross Callon o draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification-13.txt CAPWAP Protocol Specification (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 6 Token: Dan Romascanu o draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-10.txt CAPWAP Protocol Binding for IEEE 802.11 (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 6 Token: Dan Romascanu o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-g711wb-03.txt RTP Payload Format for ITU-T Recommendation G.711.1 (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 6 Note: Roni Even is the document shepherd. Token: Cullen Jennings 2.1.2 Returning Item NONE 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item NONE 2.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it covers? If not, what changes would make it so?" 3.1.1 New Item NONE 3.1.2 Returning Item NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it covers? If not, what changes would make it so?" 3.2.1 New Item o draft-bryant-mpls-tp-jwt-report-00.txt JWT Report on MPLS Architectural Considerations for a Transport Profile (Informational) - 1 of 1 Token: David Ward 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor The IESG will use RFC 3932 responses: 1) The IESG has not found any conflict between this document and IETF work; 2) The IESG thinks that this work is related to IETF work done in WG , but this does not prevent publishing; 3) The IESG thinks that publication is harmful to work in WG and recommends not publishing at this time; 4) The IESG thinks that this document violates the IETF procedures for and should therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG approval; 5) The IESG thinks that this document extends an IETF protocol in a way that requires IETF review and should therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG approval. The document shepherd must propose one of these responses in the Data Tracker note and supply complete text in the IESG Note portion of the write-up. The Area Director ballot positions indicate consensus with the response proposed by the document shepherd. Other matters may be recorded in comments, and the comments will be passed on to the RFC Editor as community review of the document. 3.3.1 New Item NONE 3.3.2 Returning Item o draft-santoni-timestampeddata-04.txt Syntax for binding documents with time stamps (Informational) - 1 of 2 Token: Tim Polk o draft-templin-autoconf-dhcp-16.txt MANET Autoconfiguration using Virtual Enterprise Traversal (VET) (Informational) - 2 of 2 Token: Ross Callon 3.3.3 For Action o draft-bberry-rfc4938bis-00.txt PPP Over Ethernet (PPPoE) Extensions for Credit Flow and Link Metrics (Informational) - 1 of 1 Token: Russ Housley _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Sun Oct 5 03:37:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FC03A6811; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 03:37:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E825B3A659A for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 03:37:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.661 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.661 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.722, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_URGBIZ=0.725, URG_BIZ=1.585] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6coKX4L2yA9U for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 03:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.denic.de (gw-office.denic.de [81.91.160.182]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30AC13A67E9 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 03:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x27.adm.denic.de ([10.122.64.128]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1KmR01-0005kJ-Qr; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:38:05 +0200 Received: from localhost by x27.adm.denic.de with local id 1KmQyI-00023E-Mx; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:36:18 +0200 Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 12:36:18 +0200 From: Peter Koch To: dns-dir@ietf.org Message-ID: <20081005103618.GB5412@x27.adm.denic.de> References: <20080929140341.GB11747@unknown.office.denic.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080929140341.GB11747@unknown.office.denic.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Any topics for the next meeting? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Dear fellow DNS directorate members, > our schedule lists 6 October, a week from today, as the next date for our > regular conference call. As far as I am aware, there's little to do beyond > reviewing action items. Unless anyone objects and/or brings forward a topic > to discuss, I'd suggest we cancel the upcoming call. since nobody has brought forward any agenda items or urgent business, the 06-OCT-2008 conf call is now cancelled. We'll try again on Monday, 03-NOV-2008. Best regards, Peter _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Sat Oct 11 00:22:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B46B3A6B1E; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:22:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20443A6AED for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:22:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.575 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.575 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.024, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JzSPjAqP7nLy for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DEC3A6B1E for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:22:10 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,393,1220227200"; d="scan'208";a="22318778" Received: from ams-dkim-2.cisco.com ([144.254.224.139]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Oct 2008 07:22:57 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m9B7MvbO001469; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:22:57 +0200 Received: from xbh-ams-332.emea.cisco.com (xbh-ams-332.cisco.com [144.254.231.87]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9B7MvqR004663; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 07:22:57 GMT Received: from xfe-ams-331.emea.cisco.com ([144.254.231.72]) by xbh-ams-332.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:22:57 +0200 Received: from Townsley-MacBook.local ([10.61.67.64]) by xfe-ams-331.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:22:54 +0200 Message-ID: <48F053F4.8050500@cisco.com> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:21:24 +0200 From: Mark Townsley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF DNS Directorate References: <200810092002.m99K25wj021100@sj-core-1.cisco.com> <48EFD279.6060209@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <48EFD279.6060209@cisco.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2008 07:22:56.0391 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E8B3170:01C92B72] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1889; t=1223709777; x=1224573777; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=townsley@cisco.com; z=From:=20Mark=20Townsley=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20Fwd=3A=20Please=20consider=20sponsoring =20draft-hoffman-dac-vbr-04.txt=0A=20=20as=20an=20individual =20submission |Sender:=20; bh=Tfg0lXigtIe4Neczo5XGClar1HSwCzXL5MUVEObxIMw=; b=H7kPvFvHi6Tdd3cNgZ9RwHTHD9weP3iTR0OaEDQ+5ZFd6+xN5DStFEKi+7 1O3W0OpTrIqqZhs+MknZLbLAtekKCfXo6328IjBnQXyIAjkQvi7XQeKOkSHj lSHCZ0d4dB; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-2; header.From=townsley@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/amsdkim2001 verified; ); Cc: jari.arkko@piuha.net, Russ Housley Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Fwd: Please consider sponsoring draft-hoffman-dac-vbr-04.txt as an individual submission X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Resending to the proper address (emailer automatically sent to defunct ops.ietf.org list) Mark Townsley wrote: > > DNS Directorate, > > Could we have a DNS review of this, and advice to Russ on whether it > should advance through the DNSEXT/DNSOPS WG or not? Alternatives would > seem to be some place within the apps area, or Russ individually > sponsoring it as requested. > > Thank you, > > - Mark > > Russ Housley wrote: >> Do either of you have any concern with me sponsoring this document? >> I have not done an AD review yet, and I will not if you think it is >> more appropriate for this to go through an INT AD. >> >> Russ >> >> >>> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 08:44:36 -0700 >>> To: Russ Housley >>> From: Paul Hoffman >>> Subject: Please consider sponsoring draft-hoffman-dac-vbr-04.txt as an >>> individual submission >>> Cc: John Levine , Arvel Hathcock >>> >>> >>> Greetings again. We have just submitted >>> draft-hoffman-dac-vbr-04.txt; it should hit the repository shortly. >>> >>> We would like this published as a standards-track document, and >>> would like you to be our sponsor, if you agree. The protocol is >>> short, and it has been well-vetted inside the now-defunct Domain >>> Assurance Council. We also made short presentations on the protocol >>> at a few DKIM WG meetings and got mostly positive feedback and >>> constructive comments. We have heard no active opposition. There is >>> already one well-deployed implementation (from Arvel's company). >>> >>> Please let us know if you are willing to sponsor this. If you need >>> more from me (like a fuller proto document), I'm happy to do that, >>> but it will mostly be boilerplate. >>> >>> --Paul Hoffman, Director >>> --VPN Consortium >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Thu Oct 16 18:53:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB89D3A69F0; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:53:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197DF3A69C1; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:53:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.52 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.079, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VBYNjK2AxF+e; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40D73A6988; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:52:59 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,428,1220241600"; d="scan'208";a="147795520" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.avaya.com with ESMTP; 16 Oct 2008 21:54:01 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 16 Oct 2008 21:54:00 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:53:54 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for October 23, 2008 Telechat Thread-Index: Ackv5VN5Vv0CYQUjS0emnnPi1ddwEAAFWJ4g From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "IETF DNS Directorate" , "MIB Doctors (E-mail)" , , Subject: [dns-dir] FW: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for October 23, 2008 Telechat X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Please find below the preliminary agenda for the 10/23 telechat. Please send all comments and concerns until 10/22 COB the latest. Thanks and Regards, Dan -----Original Message----- From: iesg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iesg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of IESG Secretary Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 1:16 AM To: The IESG Cc: avezza@amsl.com; cmorgan@amsl.com; iesg-scribes@ietf.org; tme@multicasttech.com Subject: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for October 23, 2008 Telechat INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Summarized Agenda for the October 23, 2008 IESG Teleconference This agenda was generated at 16:11:38 EDT, October 16, 2008 Web version of this agenda can be found at: http://www.ietf.org/IESG/agenda.html 1. Administrivia 1.1 Roll Call 1.2 Bash the Agenda 1.3 Approval of the Minutes 1.4 Review of Action Items 2. Protocol Actions Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable basis on which to build the salient part of the Internet infrastructure? If not, what changes would make it so?" 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-sipping-policy-package-05.txt A Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Event Package for Session-Specific Session Policies. (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 4 Token: Jon Peterson o draft-ietf-ccamp-rfc4420bis-03.txt Encoding of Attributes for Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Path (LSP) Establishment Using RSVP-TE (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 4 Token: Ross Callon o draft-ietf-dime-mip6-integrated-10.txt Diameter Mobile IPv6: Support for Network Access Server to Diameter Server Interaction (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 4 Token: Dan Romascanu o draft-ietf-idr-as-representation-01.txt Textual Representation of AS Numbers (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 4 Token: David Ward 2.1.2 Returning Item NONE 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item NONE 2.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it covers? If not, what changes would make it so?" 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-ccamp-asymm-bw-bidir-lsps-01.txt GMPLS Asymmetric Bandwidth Bidirectional Label Switched Paths (LSPs) (Experimental) - 1 of 1 Token: Ross Callon 3.1.2 Returning Item NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it covers? If not, what changes would make it so?" 3.2.1 New Item o draft-arkko-eap-aka-kdf-06.txt Improved Extensible Authentication Protocol Method for 3rd Generation Authentication and Key Agreement (EAP-AKA') (Informational) - 1 of 1 Token: Russ Housley 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor The IESG will use RFC 3932 responses: 1) The IESG has not found any conflict between this document and IETF work; 2) The IESG thinks that this work is related to IETF work done in WG , but this does not prevent publishing; 3) The IESG thinks that publication is harmful to work in WG and recommends not publishing at this time; 4) The IESG thinks that this document violates the IETF procedures for and should therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG approval; 5) The IESG thinks that this document extends an IETF protocol in a way that requires IETF review and should therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG approval. The document shepherd must propose one of these responses in the Data Tracker note and supply complete text in the IESG Note portion of the write-up. The Area Director ballot positions indicate consensus with the response proposed by the document shepherd. Other matters may be recorded in comments, and the comments will be passed on to the RFC Editor as community review of the document. 3.3.1 New Item NONE 3.3.2 Returning Item o draft-templin-autoconf-dhcp-17.txt Virtual Enterprise Traversal (VET) (Informational) - 1 of 1 Token: Ross Callon 3.3.3 For Action o draft-irtf-iccrg-cc-rfcs-06.txt Congestion Control in the RFC Series (Informational) - 1 of 1 Note: This document is an IRTF document. The IRSG is asking the IESG to perform a RFC3932bis review of draft-irtf-iccrg-cc-rfcs-06 [1] to be published an an Informational IRTF RFC. The document has been approved for publication by the IRSG. Token: Russ Housley 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (alto) - 1 of 1 Token: Lisa Dusseault 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review o Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoidance (behave) - 1 of 2 Token: Magnus Westerlund o Mobility for IP: Performance, Signaling and Handoff Optimization (mipshop) - 2 of 2 Token: Jari Arkko 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval o Simple Authentication and Security Layer (sasl) - 1 of 1 Token: Pasi Eronen _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Sun Oct 26 06:54:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE8C3A69C6; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 06:54:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB563A69C6 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 06:54:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.69 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.69 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.559, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XCHsT1xk-q55 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 06:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.denic.de (gw-office.denic.de [81.91.160.182]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6355F3A69FA for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 06:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x27.adm.denic.de ([10.122.64.128]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1Ku65m-0005hr-F9; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:55:42 +0100 Received: from localhost by x27.adm.denic.de with local id 1Ku63s-0000hd-Uj; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:53:44 +0100 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:53:44 +0100 From: Peter Koch To: dns-dir@ietf.org Message-ID: <20081026135344.GD32300@x27.adm.denic.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: [dns-dir] Topics for the DNS Directorate? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Dear fellow DNS directorate members, our next teleconference is routinely scheduled for next Monday, 03-NOV-2008, 15:00 UTC. In Dublin we also agreed to have a dinner meeting on Monday during the IETF week. Any topics for either event? Best regards, Peter _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 27 12:35:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6C43A6B4E; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:35:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD113A6B4E for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:35:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.76 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.76 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ylFcJsWBhB9y for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.denic.de (gw-office.denic.de [81.91.160.182]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7B03A68BF for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x27.adm.denic.de ([10.122.64.128]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1KuXs0-0007T3-Cb; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:35:20 +0100 Received: from localhost by x27.adm.denic.de with local id 1KuXq6-0003Ki-7x; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:33:22 +0100 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:33:22 +0100 From: Peter Koch To: dns-dir@ietf.org Message-ID: <20081027193322.GB11963@x27.adm.denic.de> References: <20081026135344.GD32300@x27.adm.denic.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081026135344.GD32300@x27.adm.denic.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Topics for the DNS Directorate? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Dear fellow DNS directorate members, > our next teleconference is routinely scheduled for next Monday, > 03-NOV-2008, 15:00 UTC. In Dublin we also agreed to have a dinner meeting > on Monday during the IETF week. Any topics for either event? it's a bit late but following up to hallway discussions during the RIPE meeting I'd like to suggest we do have a conf call next monday and start away with these two agenda items: 1) Role of the DNS in current IPv4/IPv6 transition/translation/migration proposals Which drafts to look at, which WG sessions to follow in Minneapolis and how to organize review and advice 2) IPR claims by TS Glassey Mutual information on the state of affairs (probably avoiding discussion of the merits) Best regards, Peter _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Tue Oct 28 06:31:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FCC3A6C40; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:31:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3163A6946 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:31:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0PfJQyWKxmWK for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.yitter.info (mail.yitter.info [208.86.224.201]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A11128C1E8 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.33.129] (CPE001b63afe888-CM001adea9c5a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.236.211.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ED5672FE9946 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:31:02 +0000 (UTC) Message-Id: From: Andrew Sullivan To: dns-dir@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <20081027193322.GB11963@x27.adm.denic.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:31:02 -0400 References: <20081026135344.GD32300@x27.adm.denic.de> <20081027193322.GB11963@x27.adm.denic.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Topics for the DNS Directorate? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org On 27-Oct-08, at 3:33 PM, Peter Koch wrote: > > 1) Role of the DNS in current IPv4/IPv6 transition/translation/ > migration > proposals > Which drafts to look at, which WG sessions to follow in Minneapolis > and how to organize review and advice This one is explicitly about the DNS: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bagnulo-behave-dns64 For reasons I don't completely fathom, Marcelo wanted my name on that as an author. I have made some suggestions, and I think there's probably text directly lifted from an email I sent him. I'm not sure I agree with everything in it, though. There's also this: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wing-behave-learn-prefix-00 It discusses how to learn the prefix that it being added to an A record to get a AAAA, among other things. This will be useful in case the translation is performed at the end node. There are a couple ways the DNS translation stuff could work. The first is to put a box in the network that does it. Whatever the proponents might say, this is not entirely dissimilar to the old DNS- ALG. Note, however, that the idea is really to make this work like part of the recursion-providing nameserver, so the stub contacts the ISP's recursing nameserver (call this Irn, so I can type less). Irn performs the lookup, then does DNSSEC validation (assuming that's turned on), and _then_ does translation and hands back to the client. This obviously breaks if the end node is doing validation itself. To get around the "broken endpoint validation" problem, it appears there are a couple options. One is to perform the translation anyway, and have some additional bits (an EDNS0 option, a new RR in the additional section [ick], whatever) to tell the end node that translation has happened. The end node can then un-translate, validate again, then re-translate and proceed as normal. This seems to me to be a wheel that does no work, however, so I suggested that the translation-aware, security-aware DNS recursing server should do different things and send different responses depending on the DO and CD bits in a DNS query (this is the text I think is in Marcelo's draft). It sort of sucks, but it's the best thing I've come up with yet. I think it might also be worth looking at these, but I haven't really looked at them: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-baker-behave-v4v6-translation http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-baker-behave-v4v6-framework _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Thu Oct 30 22:28:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-dns-dir-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7D13A6BC2; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:28:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B033A6BB8; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:28:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.687 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.687 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.088, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s7vYMeKkiBai; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:28:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3373A6A82; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:28:47 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,520,1220241600"; d="scan'208";a="126826954" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 31 Oct 2008 01:28:44 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 31 Oct 2008 01:28:43 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:28:40 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for November 6, 2008 Telechat Thread-Index: Ack639An4xl609dSTZymshi/N1BJjwAOSFUg From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "MIB Doctors (E-mail)" , , "IETF DNS Directorate" , Subject: [dns-dir] FW: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for November 6, 2008 Telechat X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org Please find below the preliminary agenda of the IESG 11/6 telechat. Please send your comments and concerns related to the documents submitted for approval until 11/5 COB the latest. Thanks and Regards, Dan 2. Protocol Actions Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable basis on which to build the salient part of the Internet infrastructure? If not, what changes would make it so?" 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-emu-eap-gpsk-16.txt EAP Generalized Pre-Shared Key (EAP-GPSK) Method (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 7 Note: document shepherd: Joe Salowey Token: Pasi Eronen o draft-ietf-sip-sips-08.txt The use of the SIPS URI Scheme in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 7 Note: The proto Shepherd for this document is Dean Willis. Token: Cullen Jennings o draft-ietf-psamp-info-11.txt Information Model for Packet Sampling Exports (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 7 Note: Juergen Quittek is the PROTO shepherd Token: Dan Romascanu o draft-ietf-avt-dtls-srtp-06.txt Datagram Transport Layer Security (DTLS) Extension to Establish Keys for Secure Real-time Transport Protocol (SRTP) (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 7 Note: The document shepherd is Roni Even. Token: Cullen Jennings o draft-ietf-behave-dccp-04.txt Network Address Translation (NAT) Behavioral Requirements for the Datagram Congestion Control Protocol (BCP) - 5 of 7 Token: Magnus Westerlund o draft-ietf-sip-dtls-srtp-framework-05.txt Framework for Establishing an SRTP Security Context using DTLS (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 7 Note: Last Call ends Oct 31. Dean Willis will act as the proto shepherd. Token: Cullen Jennings o draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec-02.txt Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol Version 3 for IPv4 and IPv6 (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 7 Token: David Ward 2.1.2 Returning Item NONE 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item NONE 2.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it covers? If not, what changes would make it so?" 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-behave-stun-test-vectors-03.txt Test vectors for STUN (Informational) - 1 of 2 Token: Magnus Westerlund o draft-ietf-idr-as-documentation-reservation-00.txt AS Number Reservation for Documentation Use (Informational) - 2 of 2 Token: David Ward 3.1.2 Returning Item NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it covers? If not, what changes would make it so?" 3.2.1 New Item o draft-narten-successful-bof-03.txt Considerations for Having a Successful BOF (Informational) - 1 of 2 Token: Russ Housley o draft-rescorla-tls-suiteb-09.txt Suite B Profile for Transport Layer Security (TLS) (Informational) - 2 of 2 Token: Tim Polk 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor The IESG will use RFC 3932 responses: 1) The IESG has not found any conflict between this document and IETF work; 2) The IESG thinks that this work is related to IETF work done in WG , but this does not prevent publishing; 3) The IESG thinks that publication is harmful to work in WG and recommends not publishing at this time; 4) The IESG thinks that this document violates the IETF procedures for and should therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG approval; 5) The IESG thinks that this document extends an IETF protocol in a way that requires IETF review and should therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG approval. The document shepherd must propose one of these responses in the Data Tracker note and supply complete text in the IESG Note portion of the write-up. The Area Director ballot positions indicate consensus with the response proposed by the document shepherd. Other matters may be recorded in comments, and the comments will be passed on to the RFC Editor as community review of the document. 3.3.1 New Item NONE 3.3.2 Returning Item NONE 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (alto) - 1 of 2 Token: Lisa Dusseault o Low Extra Delay Background Transport (ledbat) - 2 of 2 Token: Lars Eggert 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval o Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoidance (behave) - 1 of 2 Token: Magnus Westerlund o Mobility for IP: Performance, Signaling and Handoff Optimization (mipshop) - 2 of 2 Token: Jari Arkko _______________________________________________ dns-dir mailing list dns-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir