From rdroms@cisco.com Sat Jan 2 12:59:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FA53A6933 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 12:59:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.357 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.357 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[FH_DATE_PAST_20XX=10.357, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T3mRN8AihFdU for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 12:59:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com (rtp-iport-2.cisco.com [64.102.122.149]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABD63A6968 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 12:59:51 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: rtp-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEABdDP0tAZnwM/2dsb2JhbAC+M5MUhDEE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,489,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="77890088" Received: from rtp-core-1.cisco.com ([64.102.124.12]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 02 Jan 2010 20:59:49 +0000 Received: from bxb-rdroms-8712.cisco.com (bxb-rdroms-8712.cisco.com [10.98.10.83]) by rtp-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o02Kxndw014769 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 20:59:49 GMT Message-Id: <464AA24D-6360-4674-8E84-12AF2B2C444E@cisco.com> From: Ralph Droms To: IETF DNS Directorate Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:59:49 -0500 References: <20091231235427.4D8A53A6920@core3.amsl.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [dns-dir] Fwd: DRAFT Agenda and Package for the January 7, 2010 Teleconference X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:59:52 -0000 Included below is the list of docs to be discussed during the Jan 7 teleconference. Please respond with any review and comments by Jan 6. I'm especially interested in feedback on the idnabis documents. (Sorry for the late notice.) - Ralph Begin forwarded message: > > > 2. Protocol Actions > 2.1 WG Submissions > 2.1.1 New Items > > o draft-ietf-pce-monitoring-07 > A set of monitoring tools for Path Computation Element based > Architecture (Proposed Standard) > Note: Julien Meuric (julien.meuric@orange-ftgroup.com) is the new > document shepherd > Token: Adrian Farrel > > o draft-ietf-idnabis-defs-12 > Internationalized Domain Names for Applications (IDNA): Definitions > and Document Framework (Proposed Standard) > Token: Lisa Dusseault > > o draft-ietf-idnabis-protocol-17 > Internationalized Domain Names in Applications (IDNA): Protocol > (Proposed Standard) > Token: Lisa Dusseault > > o draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-06 > Right-to-left scripts for IDNA (Proposed Standard) > Token: Lisa Dusseault > > o draft-ietf-idnabis-tables-08 > The Unicode code points and IDNA (Proposed Standard) > Token: Lisa Dusseault > > o draft-ietf-fecframe-interleaved-fec-scheme-07 > RTP Payload Format for 1-D Interleaved Parity FEC (Proposed > Standard) > Note: Greg Shepherd is the document > shepherd. > Token: Magnus Westerlund > > o draft-ietf-pkix-rfc3161-update-09 > ESSCertIDv2 update for RFC 3161 (Proposed Standard) > Note: Steve Kent is the document shepherd > Token: Tim Polk > > 2.1.2 Returning Items > > o draft-ietf-tsvwg-emergency-rsvp-14 > Resource ReSerVation Protocol (RSVP) Extensions for Admission > Priority (Proposed Standard) > Note: Gorry Fairhurst (gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk) is the document > shepherd > Token: Magnus Westerlund > > o draft-ietf-l3vpn-2547bis-mcast-09 > Multicast in MPLS/BGP IP VPNs (Proposed Standard) > Token: Ross Callon > > 2.2 Individual Submissions > 2.2.1 New Items > > o draft-eastlake-nlpid-iana-considerations-04 > IANA Considerations for Network Layer Protocol Identifiers (BCP) > Token: Dan Romascanu > > o draft-ohba-pana-pemk-03 > Definition of Master Key between PANA Client and Enforcement Point > (Proposed Standard) > Token: Jari Arkko > > 2.2.2 Returning Items > > o draft-atlas-icmp-unnumbered-08 > Extending ICMP for Interface and Next-hop Identification (Proposed > Standard) > Note: There is no document shepherd > Token: Jari Arkko > > 3. Document Actions > 3.1 WG Submissions > 3.1.1 New Items > > o draft-ietf-ippm-framework-compagg-09 > Framework for Metric Composition (Informational) > Note: Document shepherd is Henk Uijterwaal (henk@ripe.net) > Token: Lars Eggert > > o draft-ietf-idnabis-rationale-15 > Internationalized Domain Names for Applications (IDNA): Background, > Explanation, and Rationale (Informational) > Token: Lisa Dusseault > > o draft-ietf-fecframe-dvb-al-fec-04 > Guidelines for Implementing DVB-IPTV Application-Layer Hybrid FEC > Protection (Informational) > Note: Greg Shepherd (gjshep@gmail.com) is the document shepherd. > Token: Magnus Westerlund > > o draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-arch-08 > Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Ethernet Label > Switching Architecture and Framework (Informational) > Note: Deborah Brungard (db3546@att.com) is the document shepherd. > Token: Adrian Farrel > > 3.1.2 Returning Items > > NONE > > 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD > 3.2.1 New Items > > o draft-ohba-802dot21-basic-schema-07 > IEEE 802.21 Basic Schema (Informational) > Note: There is no document shepherd > Token: Jari Arkko > > o draft-xli-behave-ivi-05 > The CERNET IVI Translation Design and Deployment for the IPv4/IPv6 > Coexistence and Transition (Experimental) > Note: Document Shepherd is Fred Baker > Token: Jari Arkko > > o draft-gennai-smime-cnipa-pec-05 > Certified Electronic Mail (Informational) > Note: Sean Turner is the document shepherd. > Token: Tim Polk > > 3.2.2 Returning Items > > NONE > > 3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor > 3.3.1 New Items > > o draft-dolmatov-cryptocom-gost34102001-08 > GOST R 34.10-2001 digital signature algorithm (Informational) > Token: Russ Housley > > o draft-dolmatov-cryptocom-gost341194-07 > GOST R 34.11-94 Hash function algorithm (Informational) > Token: Russ Housley > > o draft-dolmatov-cryptocom-gost2814789-08 > GOST 28147-89 encryption, decryption and MAC algorithms > (Informational) > Token: Russ Housley > > 3.3.2 Returning Items > > NONE > From ogud@ogud.com Tue Jan 5 09:37:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430AC3A6814 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2010 09:37:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SbY52usjINt5 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2010 09:37:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D5D28C154 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2010 09:37:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from valholl.ogud.com (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o05Hbl5L012730; Tue, 5 Jan 2010 12:37:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) Message-Id: <201001051737.o05Hbl5L012730@stora.ogud.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 12:36:58 -0500 To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , "IETF DNS Directorate" From: Olafur Gudmundsson In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: Re: [dns-dir] DRAFT Agenda and Package for the January 7, 2010 Teleconference X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:37:12 -0000 Number of documents in the DNS early warning database all the idnabis documents and the xli-behave-ivi document. Olafur At 04:44 03/01/2010, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > Please find below the preliminary agenda of the 1/7 IESG telechat. >Please send me your comments, questions and concerns about the documents >on the agenda until 1/6 COB the latest. > >Thanks and Regards, > >Dan > > > >2. Protocol Actions >2.1 WG Submissions >2.1.1 New Items > > o draft-ietf-pce-monitoring-07 > A set of monitoring tools for Path Computation Element based > Architecture (Proposed Standard) > Note: Julien Meuric (julien.meuric@orange-ftgroup.com) is the new > document shepherd > Token: Adrian Farrel > > o draft-ietf-idnabis-defs-12 > Internationalized Domain Names for Applications (IDNA): Definitions > and Document Framework (Proposed Standard) > Token: Lisa Dusseault > > o draft-ietf-idnabis-protocol-17 > Internationalized Domain Names in Applications (IDNA): Protocol > (Proposed Standard) > Token: Lisa Dusseault > > o draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-06 > Right-to-left scripts for IDNA (Proposed Standard) > Token: Lisa Dusseault > > o draft-ietf-idnabis-tables-08 > The Unicode code points and IDNA (Proposed Standard) > Token: Lisa Dusseault > > o draft-ietf-fecframe-interleaved-fec-scheme-07 > RTP Payload Format for 1-D Interleaved Parity FEC (Proposed > Standard) > Note: Greg Shepherd is the document > shepherd. > Token: Magnus Westerlund > > o draft-ietf-pkix-rfc3161-update-09 > ESSCertIDv2 update for RFC 3161 (Proposed Standard) > Note: Steve Kent is the document shepherd > Token: Tim Polk > >2.1.2 Returning Items > > o draft-ietf-tsvwg-emergency-rsvp-14 > Resource ReSerVation Protocol (RSVP) Extensions for Admission > Priority (Proposed Standard) > Note: Gorry Fairhurst (gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk) is the document > shepherd > Token: Magnus Westerlund > > o draft-ietf-l3vpn-2547bis-mcast-09 > Multicast in MPLS/BGP IP VPNs (Proposed Standard) > Token: Ross Callon > >2.2 Individual Submissions >2.2.1 New Items > > o draft-eastlake-nlpid-iana-considerations-04 > IANA Considerations for Network Layer Protocol Identifiers (BCP) > Token: Dan Romascanu > > o draft-ohba-pana-pemk-03 > Definition of Master Key between PANA Client and Enforcement Point > (Proposed Standard) > Token: Jari Arkko > >2.2.2 Returning Items > > o draft-atlas-icmp-unnumbered-08 > Extending ICMP for Interface and Next-hop Identification (Proposed > Standard) > Note: There is no document shepherd > Token: Jari Arkko > >3. Document Actions >3.1 WG Submissions >3.1.1 New Items > > o draft-ietf-ippm-framework-compagg-09 > Framework for Metric Composition (Informational) > Note: Document shepherd is Henk Uijterwaal (henk@ripe.net) > Token: Lars Eggert > > o draft-ietf-idnabis-rationale-15 > Internationalized Domain Names for Applications (IDNA): Background, > Explanation, and Rationale (Informational) > Token: Lisa Dusseault > > o draft-ietf-fecframe-dvb-al-fec-04 > Guidelines for Implementing DVB-IPTV Application-Layer Hybrid FEC > Protection (Informational) > Note: Greg Shepherd (gjshep@gmail.com) is the document shepherd. > Token: Magnus Westerlund > > o draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-arch-08 > Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Ethernet Label > Switching Architecture and Framework (Informational) > Note: Deborah Brungard (db3546@att.com) is the document shepherd. > Token: Adrian Farrel > >3.1.2 Returning Items > > NONE > >3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD >3.2.1 New Items > > o draft-ohba-802dot21-basic-schema-07 > IEEE 802.21 Basic Schema (Informational) > Note: There is no document shepherd > Token: Jari Arkko > > o draft-xli-behave-ivi-05 > The CERNET IVI Translation Design and Deployment for the IPv4/IPv6 > Coexistence and Transition (Experimental) > Note: Document Shepherd is Fred Baker > Token: Jari Arkko > > o draft-gennai-smime-cnipa-pec-05 > Certified Electronic Mail (Informational) > Note: Sean Turner is the document shepherd. > Token: Tim Polk > >3.2.2 Returning Items > > NONE > >3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor >3.3.1 New Items > > o draft-dolmatov-cryptocom-gost34102001-08 > GOST R 34.10-2001 digital signature algorithm (Informational) > Token: Russ Housley > > o draft-dolmatov-cryptocom-gost341194-07 > GOST R 34.11-94 Hash function algorithm (Informational) > Token: Russ Housley > > o draft-dolmatov-cryptocom-gost2814789-08 > GOST 28147-89 encryption, decryption and MAC algorithms > (Informational) > Token: Russ Housley > > >_______________________________________________ >dns-dir mailing list >dns-dir@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From jari.arkko@piuha.net Wed Jan 6 00:39:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FDE3A680C for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 00:39:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.329 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.329 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.270, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BJ2sbrCUe5MS for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 00:39:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from p130.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF7F3A680A for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 00:39:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D702FD491F; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:39:52 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at piuha.net Received: from p130.piuha.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p130.piuha.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bJ53VyXB+zxO; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:39:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3520AD491C; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:39:52 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4B444C57.4050105@piuha.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:39:51 +0100 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dns directorate Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [dns-dir] idnabis documents in the iesg X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:39:55 -0000 Directorate, These documents are on the IESG telechat tomorrow. I would like to get your assessment on whether they are ready to become RFCs or if there are some significant issues left. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-06 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idnabis-defs-12 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idnabis-protocol-17 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idnabis-rationale-15 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idnabis-tables-08 Jari From ajs@shinkuro.com Wed Jan 6 05:58:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4933A6818 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 05:58:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.833 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.833 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.234, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cWIuptI2wGCt for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 05:58:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.yitter.info (mail.yitter.info [208.86.224.201]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18F03A67FE for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 05:58:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from crankycanuck.ca (69-196-144-230.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.196.144.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9F1B72FE8CA1 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 13:58:55 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 08:58:53 -0500 From: Andrew Sullivan To: dns-dir@ietf.org Message-ID: <20100106135853.GI8857@shinkuro.com> References: <4B444C57.4050105@piuha.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4B444C57.4050105@piuha.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: [dns-dir] idnabis documents in the iesg X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 13:58:58 -0000 On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 09:39:51AM +0100, Jari Arkko wrote: > Directorate, > > These documents are on the IESG telechat tomorrow. I would like to get > your assessment on whether they are ready to become RFCs or if there are > some significant issues left. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-06 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idnabis-defs-12 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idnabis-protocol-17 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idnabis-rationale-15 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idnabis-tables-08 I reviewed the documents during WGLC, and have been active in the IDNABIS WG. I haven't completely re-read the documents after the LC, but I've followed the changes as they've happened. The hold up with them since IETF LC has been, apparently, the sponsoring AD's reluctance to proceed because of issues to do with the fact that these introduce backwards-incompatible changes with IDNA2003. The resolution to that has, in the end, apparently been to say, "Yes, they do," and to hope that sensible things will happen elsewhere. There were some adjustments to the documents, but nothing that wasn't there all along in my opinion. The compromise appears to have been that the issue of how to handle the transition has been kicked over to ICANN. The plain fact is that these introduce a backward-incompatible change with IDNA2003, and that there will therefore be an overlap period during which it will be possible for two different clients on the same machine at the same time to resolve the same keyboard input differently. The most galvanizing but maybe not most likely example of this is the ß (Eszett or SHARP S) character. In order to avoid this eventuality, it will be necessary for registries (or zone operators) to do something to map the characters in question, and to arrange the zones they operate such that during some transition period at least there is no difficulty. Of course, there isn't anything in the protocol to enforce this, and it would be impossible to require that there be. In my opinion, given the aims that the IETF had when chartering the IDNABIS work in the first place, the documents are as good as they're ever going to be and should be published. Remember that these are at the beginning of the standards track, and there's already some talk of opening them to revise and advance. Best, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc. From pfaltstr@cisco.com Wed Jan 6 06:56:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D0C3A6887 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 06:56:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=3.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nsiLVhAQvbTY for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 06:56:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com (rtp-iport-2.cisco.com [64.102.122.149]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28DF3A677C for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 06:56:58 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: rtp-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAIozREtAZnwN/2dsb2JhbAC+f5NZhDAE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,229,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="78649339" Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com ([64.102.124.13]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 06 Jan 2010 14:56:56 +0000 Received: from xbh-ams-201.cisco.com (xbh-ams-201.cisco.com [144.254.75.7]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o06EusbO006096; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:56:56 GMT Received: from xfe-ams-202.cisco.com ([144.254.231.96]) by xbh-ams-201.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 6 Jan 2010 15:56:54 +0100 Received: from [192.165.72.14] ([10.61.64.131]) by xfe-ams-202.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 6 Jan 2010 15:56:53 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= In-Reply-To: <20100106135853.GI8857@shinkuro.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 15:56:53 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <59C04842-20D7-4E5C-803C-572E8D8AFF4E@cisco.com> References: <4B444C57.4050105@piuha.net> <20100106135853.GI8857@shinkuro.com> To: Andrew Sullivan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2010 14:56:53.0648 (UTC) FILETIME=[7BEDC900:01CA8EE0] Cc: dns-dir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dns-dir] idnabis documents in the iesg X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:57:00 -0000 On 6 jan 2010, at 14.58, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > In my opinion, given the aims that the IETF had when chartering the > IDNABIS work in the first place, the documents are as good as they're > ever going to be and should be published. Remember that these are at > the beginning of the standards track, and there's already some talk of > opening them to revise and advance. I am biased as I am an editor of one of the documents, and of course = influential in the wg, but let me add one thing to the excellent summary = by Andrew...the other organisations that are specifically interested in = this work (W3C, ICANN and Unicode Consortium) as well as other IETF = wg's, can not really start working on what they have to work with before = these documents are RFC's. They will (as Andrew imply) do their work, = and come back with feedback for the next step in the IETF standards = process. I do not see any need for prolonging the delay before these documents = are made available, as I think the discussions already a few months ago = went from based on real facts be theoretical discussions, discussions = that never can be put to rest without people actually doing something. I.e. documents will not be (much) better than this without much more = real world experience. Which we will not get without the documents as = RFCs. I want to emphasise that Andrew has not only been active in the wg all = the time (and not given up like too many other good contributors), he = has also come with excellent input during the whole time we have worked = on this (compared with other comments that have been...hmm...time = consuming at best). Patrik From ogud@ogud.com Thu Jan 7 07:36:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423233A6850 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:36:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.234 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.234 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.365, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dCI8Dk6QsoYw for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:36:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CF93A6846 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:36:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o07Fbjfl034319 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:37:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: DNS_EARLY_WARNING Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:37:45 -0500 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-2010.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "ogud" Message-ID: <20100107_153745_097327.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS-EW: draft-moskowitz-rfc5201-bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:36:09 -0000 Count: 14 Network Working Group R. Moskowitz Internet-Draft ICSAlabs Obsoletes: 5201 (if approved) P. Nikander Intended status: Standards Track P. Jokela, Ed. Expires: June 10, 2010 Ericsson Research NomadicLab T. Henderson The Boeing Company December 7, 2009 Host Identity Protocol draft-moskowitz-rfc5201-bis-00 Abstract This document specifies the details of the Host Identity Protocol (HIP). HIP allows consenting hosts to securely establish and maintain shared IP-layer state, allowing separation of the identifier and locator roles of IP addresses, thereby enabling continuity of communications across IP address changes. HIP is based on a Sigma- compliant Diffie-Hellman key exchange, using public key identifiers from a new Host Identity namespace for mutual peer authentication. The protocol is designed to be resistant to denial-of-service (DoS) and man-in-the-middle (MitM) attacks. When used together with another suitable security protocol, such as the Encapsulated Security Payload (ESP), it provides integrity protection and optional encryption for upper-layer protocols, such as TCP and UDP. This document obsoletes RFC 5201 and addresses the concerns raised by the IESG, particularly that of crypto agility. It also incorporates lessons learned from the implementations of RFC 5201. From ogud@ogud.com Thu Jan 7 07:38:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60133A67FB for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:38:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.325 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.325 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.274, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CkJddB7v5MS3 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:38:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE80F28C0D7 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:38:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o07Fbjd7034329 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:37:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: DNS_EARLY_WARNING Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:37:45 -0500 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-2010.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "ogud" Message-ID: <20100107_153745_059768.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS-EW: draft-moskowitz-hip-rfc5201-bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:38:24 -0000 Count: 14 Network Working Group R. Moskowitz Internet-Draft ICSAlabs Obsoletes: 5201 (if approved) P. Nikander Intended status: Standards Track P. Jokela, Ed. Expires: June 12, 2010 Ericsson Research NomadicLab T. Henderson The Boeing Company December 9, 2009 Host Identity Protocol draft-moskowitz-hip-rfc5201-bis-00 Abstract This document specifies the details of the Host Identity Protocol (HIP). HIP allows consenting hosts to securely establish and maintain shared IP-layer state, allowing separation of the identifier and locator roles of IP addresses, thereby enabling continuity of communications across IP address changes. HIP is based on a Sigma- compliant Diffie-Hellman key exchange, using public key identifiers from a new Host Identity namespace for mutual peer authentication. The protocol is designed to be resistant to denial-of-service (DoS) and man-in-the-middle (MitM) attacks. When used together with another suitable security protocol, such as the Encapsulated Security Payload (ESP), it provides integrity protection and optional encryption for upper-layer protocols, such as TCP and UDP. This document obsoletes RFC 5201 and addresses the concerns raised by the IESG, particularly that of crypto agility. It also incorporates lessons learned from the implementations of RFC 5201. From ogud@ogud.com Thu Jan 7 08:11:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437253A68B4 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 08:11:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.38 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.38 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.219, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dj0-HwoMQ1ne for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 08:11:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD293A6850 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 08:11:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o07GCpjn034711 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:12:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: DNS_EARLY_WARNING Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:12:51 -0500 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-2010.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "ogud" Message-ID: <20100107_161251_026839.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS-EW: draft-wang-dnsext-nans-00.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:11:31 -0000 Count: 17 DNS Extensions Working Group Zheng Wang Internet Draft Cindy Wang Intended status: Informational Xiaodong Li Expires: June 19, 2010 CNNIC December 11, 2009 Negative Answer of DNS Queries draft-wang-dnsext-nans-00.txt Abstract There is no way to indicate the negative answer of resource records (RR) with name and type other than QNAME and QTYPE. This memo proposes a method to inform the nonexistence of a given name and a given type. From ogud@ogud.com Thu Jan 7 08:38:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B73023A6840 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 08:38:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.405 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.405 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.194, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WIBYur4XSEtJ for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 08:38:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9673A6809 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 08:38:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o07GCqjM034879 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:12:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: DNS_EARLY_WARNING Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:12:52 -0500 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-2010.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "ogud" Message-ID: <20100107_161252_025065.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS-EW: draft-penno-behave-64-analysis-00.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:38:19 -0000 Count: 19 Behavior Engineering for Hindrance R. Penno Avoidance T. Saxena Internet-Draft Juniper Networks Intended status: Informational D. Wing Expires: June 18, 2010 Cisco Systems December 15, 2009 Analysis of 64 Translation draft-penno-behave-64-analysis-00 Abstract Due to specific problems, NAT-PT was deprecated by the IETF as a mechanism to perform IPv6/IPv4 translation. Since then, new work has commenced which standardizes new mechanisms to perform IPv6/IPv4 translation. This document evaluates how the new translation mechanisms avoid the problems that caused the IETF to deprecate NAT-PT. From ogud@ogud.com Thu Jan 7 08:46:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F353A6809 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 08:46:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.429 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.429 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.170, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P7aHTQjy62gR for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 08:46:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F123A63C9 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 08:46:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from valholl.ogud.com (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o07GlsUh035185 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:47:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) Message-Id: <201001071647.o07GlsUh035185@stora.ogud.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:44:38 -0500 To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: Olafur Gudmundsson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: [dns-dir] Early warning problems X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:46:18 -0000 The early warning system had a problem with few documents last year. This caused the system to stop sending messages. Then the Internet drafts changed format, and that causes more errors. The errors handling corrupted the data base :-( I have to large extent rewritten the systems to be more robust, the effect was that the queue of drafts was over 500 drafts, but many of them had been processed. I first restored and fixed the data base. The first 250 had been processed but stayed in the queue. I have purged them all. The remaining 250+ I have broken up into blocks of 50 and will process one block a day unless there is no new draft message sent from that batch. When that queue is drained I will turn the automated processing back on. Soon after that I will release the code. If you have any suggestions for improvements now is a good time to put them forward. Olafur From ogud@ogud.com Fri Jan 8 05:55:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FDDF3A6972 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 05:55:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.465 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.465 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.134, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d2SmXqXtV5pL for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 05:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0733A696F for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 05:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o08DvvsB022096 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 08:57:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: DNS_EARLY_WARNING Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 08:57:57 -0500 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-2010.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "ogud" Message-ID: <20100108_135757_033566.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS-EW: draft-lourdelet-radext-ipv6-access-02.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:55:57 -0000 Count: 23 Network Working Group B. Lourdelet, Ed. Internet-Draft W. Dec, Ed. Intended status: Standards Track Cisco Systems, Inc. Expires: June 20, 2010 B. Sarikaya Huawei USA G. Zorn Network Zen D. Miles Alcatel-Lucent December 17, 2009 RADIUS attributes for IPv6 Access Networks draft-lourdelet-radext-ipv6-access-02.txt Abstract IPv6 nodes can have configuration information provided to them using DHCPv6 and/or Router Advertisements. This document specifies RADIUS attributes that complement RFC3162 for use with DHCPv6 and/or Router Advertisements (SLAAC) for use in network access scenarios. From ogud@ogud.com Fri Jan 8 06:00:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DFC3A6862 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:00:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.474 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.474 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.125, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ct4kssUKuDzQ for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:00:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C493A6816 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:00:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o08E250g022274 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:02:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: DNS_EARLY_WARNING Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:02:05 -0500 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-2010.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "ogud" Message-ID: <20100108_140205_090348.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS-EW: draft-kaplan-martini-stirred-domain-registration-00.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:00:04 -0000 Count: 21 Internet Draft H. Kaplan Intended status: Standards Track Acme Packet Expires: June 18, 2010 December 18, 2009 Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Domain Registration draft-kaplan-martini-stirred-domain-registration-00 Abstract This document defines a means of providing reachability information for a domain of SIP AoRs using a SIP REGISTER method transaction. From ogud@ogud.com Fri Jan 8 06:00:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86463A6862 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:00:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.117, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dt9Br+qCM48y for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB99B3A67B5 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:00:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o08E26fk022384 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:02:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: DNS_EARLY_WARNING Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:02:06 -0500 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-2010.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "ogud" Message-ID: <20100108_140206_090739.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS-EW: draft-yao-dnsext-bname-00.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:00:04 -0000 Count: 25 Network Working Group J. Yao Internet-Draft X. Lee Intended status: Standards Track CNNIC Expires: July 6, 2010 P. Vixie Internet Software Consortium December 23, 2009 Bundle DNS Name Redirection draft-yao-dnsext-bname-00.txt Abstract This document defines a new DNS Resource Record called "BNAME", which provides the capability to map an entire tree of the DNS name space to another domain. It differs from the CNAME record which maps a single node of the name space, from the DNAME which maps the subtree of the DNS name space to another domain. From ogud@ogud.com Fri Jan 8 06:14:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D838B3A691C for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:14:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.089 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.089 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.289, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EUoQpdzEkl3x for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF3C3A6884 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:14:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o08EH1t5022696 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:17:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: DNS_EARLY_WARNING Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:17:01 -0500 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-2010.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "ogud" Message-ID: <20100108_141701_094336.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS-EW: draft-irtf-rrg-recommendation-03.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:14:59 -0000 Count: 20 Internet Research Task Force T. Li, Ed. Internet-Draft Ericsson Intended status: Informational December 26, 2009 Expires: June 29, 2010 Recommendation for a Routing Architecture draft-irtf-rrg-recommendation-03 Abstract It is commonly recognized that the Internet routing and addressing architecture is facing challenges in scalability, multi-homing, and inter-domain traffic engineering. This document reports the Routing Research Group's prelimnary findings from its efforts towards developing a recommendation for a scalable routing architecture. This document is a work in progress. From ogud@ogud.com Fri Jan 8 06:15:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B853A696C for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:15:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.473 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.473 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.126, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xo+fDTPpvJ9z for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:15:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01333A6884 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o08EH2UA022786 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:17:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: DNS_EARLY_WARNING Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:17:02 -0500 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-2010.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "ogud" Message-ID: <20100108_141702_062561.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS-EW: draft-wang-behave-nat64-load-balancer-00.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:15:01 -0000 Count: 17 Network working group X. Wang Internet Draft Huawei Category: Informational Y. Wang Expires: June 2010 CNNIC December 31, 2009 Some Considerations on the Load-Balancer for NAT64 draft-wang-behave-nat64-load-balancer-00 Abstract [STANDBY] has discussed how to achieve load-balancing among a group of NAT64 devices, however, it doesn't mention the mechanism for load-balancer, e.g., how to assign different prefix64s to different hosts. In this memo, we propose our investigation on this topic. Conventions used in this document The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC-2119 [RFC2119]. From ogud@ogud.com Fri Jan 8 06:37:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1B83A6944 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:37:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.479 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.479 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.120, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YZbTKujOt+2r for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:37:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBE43A63D3 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:37:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o08EH3sc022835 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:17:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: DNS_EARLY_WARNING Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:17:03 -0500 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-2010.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "ogud" Message-ID: <20100108_141703_059771.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS-EW: draft-ietf-dime-extended-naptr-00.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:37:58 -0000 Count: 57 Individual Submission M. Jones Internet-Draft Bridgewater Systems Updates: 3588 (if approved) J. Korhonen Intended status: Standards Track Nokia Siemens Networks Expires: July 2, 2010 December 29, 2009 Diameter Extended NAPTR draft-ietf-dime-extended-naptr-00 Abstract This document describes an extended format for the NAPTR service fields used in dynamic Diameter agent discovery. The extended format allows NAPTR queries to contain Diameter Application-Id information. 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Levine Internet-Draft Taughannock Networks Updates: 2606 (if approved) December 29, 2009 Intended status: Standards Track Expires: July 2, 2010 Reserved and Special Names Registry draft-levine-reserved-names-registry-00 Abstract Within the Domain Name System, several names have been reserved or used for special purposes, some at the top level and some at other levels. RFC 2606 identified An IANA registry of Reserved and Special Names is established to reduce the likelihood of conflict of names and the consequent ambiguity. This specification establishes that registry. From ogud@ogud.com Fri Jan 8 06:37:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695143A697C for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:37:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.491 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.491 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.108, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l0RID7dqnmsK for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:37:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB733A63D3 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:37:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o08EH1vd022733 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:17:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: DNS_EARLY_WARNING Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:17:01 -0500 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-2010.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "ogud" Message-ID: <20100108_141701_063047.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS-EW: draft-gudmundsson-dnsext-srv-clarify-00.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:37:59 -0000 Count: 118 DNS Extensions O. Gudmundsson Internet-Draft Shinkuro Inc. Updates: 2782 (if approved) A. Hoenes Intended status: Standards Track TR-Sys Expires: July 1, 2010 December 28, 2009 Clarification of DNS SRV Owner Names draft-gudmundsson-dnsext-srv-clarify-00 Abstract The DNS SRV record has been specified in RFC 2052 and RFC 2782 for use in dynamic service discovery for a domain. These two RFCs did not clearly specify an IANA registry for the names of the services and their underlying protocols. This document clarifies RFC 2782 regarding the formation and use of the Service Prefix in the owner name of SRV records, based on the unified IANA registry for "Service Names and Port Numbers". From ogud@ogud.com Fri Jan 8 06:37:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91263A63D3 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:37:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.496 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.496 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.103, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rC871qggD7h2 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:37:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E765E3A6944 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:37:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o08EH2Qs022794 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:17:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: DNS_EARLY_WARNING Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:17:02 -0500 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-2010.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "ogud" Message-ID: <20100108_141702_065960.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS-EW: draft-daley-dnsext-host-srv-00.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:38:00 -0000 Count: 105 Network Working Group G. Daley Internet-Draft NetStar Networks Intended status: Experimental R. Ng Expires: July 4, 2010 Thomas Duryea Consulting December 31, 2009 Use of DNS SRV records for host selection draft-daley-dnsext-host-srv-00.txt Abstract Where multiple application servers are able to receive inbound connections from clients, it is desirable provide some policy control over client behaviour. This specification allows application service providers to provide addresses of multiple servers in response to DNS queries, while specifying failover and load balancing behaviours. Multiple servers are specified using existing protocol mechanisms for DNS Service records (SRV). An experimental record definition is described, which can be implemented on existing systems. From ogud@ogud.com Fri Jan 8 11:38:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359813A683D for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:38:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.099, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2znWl-RCfHIk for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:37:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8843A6835 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:37:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o08Je1o2025347 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:40:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: DNS_EARLY_WARNING Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:40:03 -0500 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-2010.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "idmbox" Message-ID: <20100108_194003_050240.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS-EW: draft-wing-behave-dns64-config-00.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 19:38:00 -0000 Count: 57 BEHAVE Working Group D. Wing Internet-Draft Cisco Intended status: Standards Track January 7, 2010 Expires: July 11, 2010 DNS64 Resolvers and Dual-Stack Hosts draft-wing-behave-dns64-config-00 Abstract Some networks are expected to support IPv4-only, dual-stack, and IPv6-only hosts at the same time. Such networks also want to IPv6/ IPv4 translation for the IPv6-only host so it can access servers on the IPv4 Internet. On such a network, the synthesized AAAA responses from a DNS64 can cause traffic to be translated. This document describes two solutions to avoid that translation: modifying default address selection on the host, and using DHCP to configure different DNS recursive resolvers. From ogud@ogud.com Mon Jan 11 04:53:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAF63A67D6 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 04:53:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.496 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.496 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.103, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ULGAddkKZRie for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 04:53:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF973A67C1 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 04:53:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from valholl.ogud.com (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o0BCv453047057 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 07:57:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) Message-Id: <201001111257.o0BCv453047057@stora.ogud.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 07:53:38 -0500 To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: Olafur Gudmundsson In-Reply-To: <201001071647.o07GlsUh035185@stora.ogud.com> References: <201001071647.o07GlsUh035185@stora.ogud.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Early warning problems X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:53:43 -0000 Queue drained an new system seems to be working. Olafur At 11:44 07/01/2010, Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: >The early warning system had a problem with few documents >last year. This caused the system to stop sending messages. >Then the Internet drafts changed format, and that causes more errors. >The errors handling corrupted the data base :-( > >I have to large extent rewritten the systems to be more robust, >the effect was that the queue of drafts was over 500 drafts, but >many of them had been processed. >I first restored and fixed the data base. > >The first 250 had been processed but stayed in the queue. >I have purged them all. >The remaining 250+ I have broken up into blocks of 50 and will >process one block a day unless there is no new draft message sent >from that batch. > >When that queue is drained I will turn the automated processing back on. > >Soon after that I will release the code. > >If you have any suggestions for improvements now is a good time to >put them forward. > Olafur > > >_______________________________________________ >dns-dir mailing list >dns-dir@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir > From ogud@ogud.com Thu Jan 14 11:40:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086953A6820 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:40:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.664 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.664 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mzX9BNMQbBkp for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:40:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF853A698C for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:40:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o0EJe1vi078788 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:40:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: DNS_EARLY_WARNING Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:40:01 -0500 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-2010.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "idmbox" Message-ID: <20100114_194001_008720.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS-EW: draft-ietf-xmpp-dna-00.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:40:10 -0000 Count: 13 Network Working Group J. Lindberg Internet-Draft Google Intended status: Standards Track S. Farrell Expires: July 18, 2010 NewBay Software January 14, 2010 Domain Name Assertions draft-ietf-xmpp-dna-00 Abstract An application-level approach to asserting and proving the delegated ownership of a domain name for XMPP. From dromasca@avaya.com Fri Jan 15 03:36:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A43E3A68FC; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 03:36:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.239 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.239 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.240, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2tINasIKYi-S; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 03:36:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618963A686C; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 03:36:51 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,281,1262581200"; d="scan'208";a="200176260" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 15 Jan 2010 06:36:47 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 15 Jan 2010 06:36:12 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:36:04 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for January 21, 2010 Telechat Thread-Index: AcqVbnhUNUl5cA2JSX6Uu+VNeTAc2wAaBQ7A From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: , "IETF DNS Directorate" , , Subject: [dns-dir] FW: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for January 21, 2010 Telechat X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:36:55 -0000 Please find below the preliminary agenda of the 1/21 IESG telechat. Please send me your questions, comments and concerns before 1/20 COB.=20 Thanks and Regards, Dan 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Items o draft-ietf-behave-turn-uri-06 Traversal Using Relays around NAT (TURN) Resolution Mechanism (Proposed Standard) Note: Document shepherd is Dan Wing, dwing@cisco.com Token: Magnus Westerlund o draft-ietf-trill-rbridge-protocol-14 Rbridges: Base Protocol Specification (Proposed Standard) Note: Erik Nordmark (erik.nordmark@sun.com) is the Document Shepherd. Token: Ralph Droms o draft-ietf-6man-iana-routing-header-00 IANA Allocation Guidelines for the IPv6 Routing Header (Proposed Standard) Note: Bob Hinden (bob.hinden@gmail.com) is the document shepherd. Token: Ralph Droms 2.1.2 Returning Items NONE 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Items o draft-kato-tls-rfc4132bis-04 Camellia Cipher Suites for TLS (Proposed Standard) Note: Satoru KANNO is the document shepherd Token: Tim Polk o draft-bryan-metalink-25 The Metalink Download Description Format (Proposed Standard) Token: Lisa Dusseault o draft-jabley-sink-arpa-02 The Eternal Non-Existence of SINK.ARPA (and other stories) (BCP) Note: Olafur Gudmundsson (ogud@ogud.com) is the document shepherd. Token: Ralph Droms o draft-jabley-reverse-servers-01 Nameservers for IPv4 and IPv6 Reverse Zones (BCP) Token: Ron Bonica o rfc3848 ESMTP and LMTP Transmission Types Registration (Draft) Note: This document has no shepherd. Please see the email message I've sent to IESG for additional information (and a pointer to implementation report). Token: Alexey Melnikov 2.2.2 Returning Items o draft-moriarty-post-inch-rid-09 Real-time Inter-network Defense (Proposed Standard) Note: corrected area Token: Tim Polk Was deferred by Magnus Westerlund on 2008-03-06 o draft-atlas-icmp-unnumbered-09 Extending ICMP for Interface and Next-hop Identification (Proposed Standard) Note: There is no document shepherd Token: Jari Arkko 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Items o draft-ietf-hokey-preauth-ps-11 Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP) Early Authentication Problem Statement (Informational) Note: document shepherd is Tina Tsou Token: Tim Polk o draft-ietf-pkix-new-asn1-07 New ASN.1 Modules for PKIX (Informational) Note: Stefan Santesson (stefan@aaa-sec.com) is the document Shepherd Token: Tim Polk o draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-08 CAPWAP Protocol Base MIB (Informational) Note: Margaret Wasserman (mrw@sandstorm.net) is the document shepherd. Token: Dan Romascanu 3.1.2 Returning Items NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Items o draft-gennai-smime-cnipa-pec-05 Certified Electronic Mail (Informational) Note: Sean Turner is the document shepherd. Token: Tim Polk Was deferred by Alexey Melnikov on 2010-01-07 o draft-ietf-pana-preauth-08 Pre-authentication Support for PANA (Experimental) Token: Jari Arkko o draft-bryan-http-digest-algorithm-values-update-04 Additional Hash Algorithms for HTTP Instance Digests (Informational) Token: Lisa Dusseault o draft-brown-versioning-link-relations-06 Link Relations for Simple Version Navigation (Informational) Token: Lisa Dusseault 3.2.2 Returning Items NONE 3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Items NONE 3.3.2 Returning Items NONE 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o Messaging Abuse Reporting Format (marf) Token: Alexey Melnikov o BiDirectional or Server-Initiated HTTP (hybi) Token: Lisa Dusseault o Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec) Token: Cullen Jennings o Internationalized Resource Identifiers (iri) Token: Alexey Melnikov 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval o Network-Based Mobility Extensions (netext) Token: Jari Arkko From ogud@ogud.com Fri Jan 15 11:40:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20153A67A3 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:40:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.657 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.657 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.058, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lRFZiyCl0FfC for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:40:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0458F3A688D for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o0FJe1Q5088472 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:40:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: DNS_EARLY_WARNING Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:40:01 -0500 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-2010.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "idmbox" Message-ID: <20100115_194001_023810.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.20.30.4 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS-EW: draft-xu-behave-hybrid-type-prefix-00.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 19:40:11 -0000 Count: 10 Network working group X. Xu Internet Draft Huawei Category: Standard Track C. Byrne Expires: July 2010 T-Mobile USA M. Boucadair France Telecom G.Chen China Mobile January 15, 2010 Hybrid Type Prefix for IPv4-Embedded IPv6 Addresses draft-xu-behave-hybrid-type-prefix-00 Abstract To build IPv4-Embedded IPv6 addresses for IPv4/IPv6 translation, the Well-Known Prefix (WKP) and Network Specific Prefix (NSP)-based address formats have been defined in [Address-Format]. However, both of them have some limitations in several use cases. Hence, this document aims at discussing the validity of the use cases and assess the interest of the BEHAVE WG to meet the requirement of unambiguously distinguishing IPv4-Embedded IPv6 addresses from native IPv6 ones. Doing so would guide the address selection and therefore allow avoiding crossing unnecessary or even useless address family translators. Conventions used in this document The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC-2119 [RFC2119]. From dromasca@avaya.com Wed Jan 20 04:09:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215B73A6A56; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:09:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.582 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.582 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.017, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H8XF97wO+kRw; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:09:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA573A6823; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:09:53 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,310,1262581200"; d="scan'208";a="173053604" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 20 Jan 2010 07:09:47 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.11]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 20 Jan 2010 07:09:30 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:09:15 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: WG Review: Recharter of Mobility Extensions (netext) Thread-Index: AcqZRdvROuWo7t8+T7i3+X1G5PSQIwAg2W4g From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: , "IETF DNS Directorate" , , Subject: [dns-dir] FW: WG Review: Recharter of Mobility Extensions (netext) X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:09:59 -0000 Please review the proposed charter and send me your comments and concerns before 1/26.=20 Thanks and Regards, Dan -----Original Message----- From: iesg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iesg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of IESG Secretary Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:28 PM To: IETF Announcement list Cc: netext@ietf.org; rkoodli@starentnetworks.com; basavaraj.patil@nokia.com Subject: WG Review: Recharter of Mobility Extensions (netext)=20 A modified charter has been submitted for the Mobility Extensions (netext) working group in the Internet Area of the IETF. The IESG has not made any determination as yet. The modified charter is provided below for informational purposes only. Please send your comments to the IESG mailing list (iesg@ietf.org) by Tuesday, January 26, 2010. This update of the NETEXT working group's charter involves adding work items related to cross-interface handover and flow mobility that were discussed in the NETEXT2 BOF but not adopted by the IETF. After discussions in the NETEXT WG meeting in Hiroshima, a significantly reduced scope for the work was adopted, and this work is now being added to the charter. In addition, one work item on RADIUS support moves from the NETLMM WG to this WG. The differences to the current charter can be seen at http://www.arkko.com/ietf/netext/recharter_new_jari2-from-old.diff.html Mobility Extensions (netext) ---------------------------- Last Modified: 2010-01-19 Current Status: Active Working Group Additional information is available at tools.ietf.org/wg/netext Chair(s): * Rajeev Koodli * Basavaraj Patil Internet Area Director(s): * Ralph Droms * Jari Arkko Internet Area Advisor: * Jari Arkko Mailing Lists: General Discussion: netext@ietf.org To Subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/netext/current/maillist.html Description of Working Group: Proxy Mobile IPv6, specified in RFC 5213, is a network-based mobility protocol. It uses a Mobile Access Gateway (MAG) and a Local Mobility Anchor (LMA) to allow hosts to move around within a domain while keeping their address or address prefix stable. Proxy Mobile IPv6 has been incorporated into a number of products and deployments are starting. Certain deployment considerations, including localized routing and bulk refresh of lifetime are already emerging. The working group will focus on the following topics relevant for network-based mobility: Localized Routing: a specification for routing traffic between the MAG(s) without involving the LMA. That is, allow the MAGs to route traffic between hosts from one MAG to another, without being tunneled all the way to the LMA. This reduces latency and backhaul load. Applications such as voice can benefit from the reduced latency. Bulk Refresh: a specification of improving the signaling load for binding lifetime refresh. The current specifications call for the handling of each mobility session independent of each other. When a large number of hosts are served by a single MAG, a periodic refresh of the binding lifetimes can lead to a signaling storm. The purpose of the Bulk Refresh feature is to construct a protocol feature that allows such refreshes to occur on a per-MAG basis. LMA Redirection: a specification for allowing an LMA to redirect a MAG to another LMA. This is primarily needed as a way to perform load balancing. This functionality is complementary to implementation techniques that allow distributed MAG implementations to move tasks around without a visible impact at the protocol level, and the initial LMA discovery work in the NETLMM WG. An applicability statement describing the situations where the new functionality is or is not applicable has to be included in the specification. Hiding access technology changes from host IP layer: Proxy mobility is based on the assumption that changes in host IP stacks are undesirable. However, link layer implementations can hide the actually used physical interfaces from the IP stack. For instance, a single interface might transmit packets over different media, as is common practice in certain radio networks. This can be used to achieve inter-access handovers or flow mobility, i.e., the movement of selected flows from one access technology to another. The specification of any actual link layer mechanisms is outside the scope of the working group, but the group works on the following: - Informational applicability statement that analyzes the issues involved with this approach and characterizes the contexts in which such use is or is not appropriate. - The working group will determine if protocol extensions are required between the Proxy Mobile IPv6 network nodes (MAGs and LMAs) to support the ability for a single host interface to transmit packets over different media and the ability to distribute specific traffic flows on different media components of that single interface. The relevant protocol extensions will be developed as necessary. The WG will assume that there the host has an interface that is capable of employing multiple media. Radius Extensions to PMIP6: In order to enable network based mobility using PMIP6, the policy profile needs to signal a set of attributes and policies to the MAG and LMA. New Radius attributes need to be specified that are relevant to PMIP6 based mobility. This work item will specify Radius extensions and attributes specific to PMIP6. The work in this charter is entirely internal to the network and does not affect host IP stack operation in any way (except perhaps through impacting packet forwarding capacity visible to the hosts). The working group is not allowed to specify new IP layer protocol mechanisms to signal mobility related events between the host and the network. The proposed activity will be complementary to the existing IETF Working Groups, notably the NETLMM and MEXT WGs. The NETEXT working group will also act as the primary forum where new extensions on top of the Proxy Mobile IPv6 protocol can be developed. The addition of such new extensions to the working group involves addition of the extension to this charter through the normal rechartering process. Goals and Milestones: May 2009 WG chartered Jul 2009 Initial WG draft on Bulk Refresh Jul 2009 Decision on the inclusion of possible additional work items Sep 2009 Initial WG draft on LMA Redirection Sep 2009 Initial WG draft on Localized Routing Dec 2009 Submit Bulk Refresh to IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard RFC Jan 2010 Submit LMA Redirection to IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard RFC Mar 2010 Initial WG document on RADIUS extensions to PMIP6 Apr 2010 Submit Localized Routing to IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard RFC May 2010 Initial WG document on Applicability Statement on Multiple Media on One Interface Jun 2010 WG decision on what Proxy Mobile IPv6 support is needed to support multiple media on one interface Sep 2010 Initial WG document(s) on Proxy Mobile IPv6 Extensions to Support Multiple Media on One Interface Oct 2010 Submit RADIUS extensions to PMIP6 to IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard Dec 2010 Submit Applicability Statement on Multiple Media on One Interface to IESG for publication as Informational RFC Feb 2011 Submit Proxy Mobile IPv6 Extensions to Support Multiple Media on One Interface for publication as Proposed Standard RFC(s) From ogud@ogud.com Wed Jan 20 11:40:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EA23A681D for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:40:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.655 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.655 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.056, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oJmilfC6jnBd for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FBC3A67AA for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:40:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o0KJe115001099 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:40:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: DNS_EARLY_WARNING Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:40:02 -0500 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-2010.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "idmbox" Message-ID: <20100120_194002_089801.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.20.30.4 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS-EW: draft-carpenter-grobj-reqts-00.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:40:09 -0000 Count: 20 GROBJ BOF B. Carpenter, Ed. Internet-Draft Univ. of Auckland Intended status: Informational January 20, 2010 Expires: July 24, 2010 Problem Statement and Requirements for Generic Referrals draft-carpenter-grobj-reqts-00 Abstract The purpose of a referral is to enable a given entity in a multiparty Internet application to pass information to another party. This memo discusses the problems involved and describes requirements for a generic referral mechanism. From ogud@ogud.com Tue Jan 26 11:39:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7593A6902 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:39:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zOOr3NHFbh15 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:39:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59193A679C for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o0QJe1UP080183 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:40:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) To: dns-dir@ietf.org From: DNS_EARLY_WARNING Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:40:01 -0500 X-Mailer: Perl script "early-2010.pl" using Mail::Sender 0.8.16 by Jenda Krynicky, Czechlands running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account "idmbox" Message-ID: <20100126_194001_099961.ogud@ogud.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.20.30.4 Subject: [dns-dir] DNS-EW: draft-arias-registry-data-escrow-00.txt X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:39:54 -0000 Count: 25 Network Working Group F. Arias Internet-Draft ICANN Intended status: Standards Track January 25, 2010 Expires: July 29, 2010 Internet Domain Registry Data Escrow specification draft-arias-registry-data-escrow-00 Abstract This document specifies the format and contents of Data Escrow deposits for Domain Registries. From dromasca@avaya.com Wed Jan 27 00:23:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356413A6891; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:23:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.22 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.22 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.379, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 97DZS+9yttDt; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:23:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9EB3A6820; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:23:34 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,352,1262581200"; d="scan'208";a="174107506" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2010 03:23:46 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.11]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2010 03:23:05 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:22:43 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [AVT] WG Review: Recharter of Audio/Video Transport (avt) Thread-Index: AcqeudC0fwi70HWPR7qsadM5cfdANAAb2Xzg From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: , "IETF DNS Directorate" , , Subject: [dns-dir] FW: [AVT] WG Review: Recharter of Audio/Video Transport (avt) X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:23:37 -0000 =20 -----Original Message----- From: avt-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:avt-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of IESG Secretary Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:00 PM To: ietf-announce@ietf.org Cc: tom111.taylor@bell.net; avt@ietf.org Subject: [AVT] WG Review: Recharter of Audio/Video Transport (avt) A modified charter has been submitted for the Audio/Video Transport (avt) working group in the Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area of the IETF. The IESG has not made any determination as yet. The modified charter is provided below for informational purposes only. Please send your comments to the IESG mailing list (iesg@ietf.org) by Tuesday, February 2, 2010. Audio/Video Transport (avt) ---------------------------- Last Modified: 2010-01-21 Additional information is available at tools.ietf.org/wg/avt Chair(s): Roni Even Tom Taylor Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area Director(s): Robert Sparks Cullen Jennings Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area Advisor: Robert Sparks Mailing Lists: General Discussion: avt@ietf.org To Subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/avt/index.html Description of Working Group: The Audio/Video Transport Working Group was formed to specify a protocol for real-time transmission of audio and video over unicast and multicast UDP/IP. This is the Real-time Transport Protocol, RTP, along with its associated profiles and payload formats. RTP itself has been shepherded to Full Standard. Its associated profiles, extensions, and payload formats are currently at various levels of stardards maturity. This working group's current work centers in four areas: 1) Maintenance of the core RTP/RTCP protocols and the AVP, SAVP, AVPF, and SAVPF profiles 2) Specification and maintenance of payload formats for use with RTP 3) Specification of metric blocks for use with the RTCP Extended Report (XR) framework 4) Extensions to the core protocols to facilitate joining, synchronizing, control, and monitoring of RTP multimedia sessions In these areas, the group is chartered to focus on the following tasks. Work supporting those areas, but not reflected in these tasks must not be accepted by the working group without an explicit re-chartering. In particular, new items supporting the fourth area are expected to be reviewed in DISPATCH before being considered new charter items for this group. 1) Maintenance of the core RTP/SRTP/RTCP protocols and the AVP, SAVP, AVPF, and SAVPF profiles - maintain and enhance the SRTP Profile, with review and input from the Security Area - specify how to use Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) with RTP/RTCP 2) Specification and maintenance of payload formats for use with RTP - provide guidelines for payload format design - develop payload formats for new media codecs - review and revise existing payload formats to advance those which are useful to Draft Standard or Standard, and to declare others as Historic. 3) Specification of metric blocks for use with the RTCP Extended Report (XR) framework - provide a mechanism allowing identification data for a set of related metric reports to be carried separately and identified in those reports by reference - provide report blocks for delay, delay variation, and discard - provide report blocks for burst/gap discard and loss - provide report blocks supporting rapid synchronization of multiple RTP streams - provide report blocks for jitter buffer metrics - provide report blocks for loss concealment metrics 4) Extensions to the core protocols to facilitate joining, synchronizing, control, and monitoring of RTP multimedia sessions - develop tools to support rapid acquisition of multimedia streams -specify necessary extensions to support rapid synchronization of multiple RTP streams Milestones: Maintenance of the core RTP/RTCP protocols and the AVP, SAVP, AVPF, and SAVPF profiles Jan-10 Submit draft explaining why SRTP need not be mandatory for media transport, for Informational Jan-10 Policy for Registering SRTP Transforms for Proposed Standard Feb-10 Submit Port Mapping Between Unicast and Multicast RTP Sessions for Proposed Standard Mar-10 Submit Guidelines for Extending the RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) for Informational Mar-10 Submit Monitoring Architecture for RTP for Informational Apr-10 Submit in band keying mechanism for SRTP draft for Proposed Standard May-10 Submit Real-Time Transport Control Protocol (RTCP) in Overlay Multicast for Proposed Standard May-10 Submit Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) for RTP over UDP for Proposed Standard Nov-10 Encryption of Header Extensions in the Secure Real-Time Transport Protocol (SRTP) for Proposed Standard Specification and maintenance of payload formats for use with RTP Jan-10 Submit RTP Payload Format for H.264 RCDO Video for Proposed Standard Jan-10 RTP Payload Format for GSM-HR for Proposed Standard Jan-10 RTP Payload Format for DRA Audio for Informational Feb-10 Submit RTP Payload Format for SVC Video for Proposed Standard Feb-10 Submit How to Write an RTP Payload Format for Informational Mar-10 Submit RTP Payload Format for DV (IEC 61834) Video for Proposed Standard Mar-10 Submit EVBR/G.718 payload draft for Proposed Standard Mar-10 RTP Payload Format for MPEG2-TS preamble for Proposed Standard Mar-10 RTP Payload Format for MPEG-4 Audio/Visual Streams for Proposed Standard Apr-10 RTP Payload Format for Enhanced Variable Rate Narrowband- Wideband Codec (EVRC-NW) for Proposed Standard Apr-10 RTP Payload Format for Bluetooth's SBC audio codec for Proposed Standard Apr-10 RTP Payload Format for the iSAC codec for Proposed Standard Sep-10 RTP Payload Format for the CELT codec for Proposed Standard Sep-10 RTP Payload Format for the APTX codec for Proposed Standard Sep-10 RTP profile for the carriage of SMPTE 336M data for Proposed Standard Oct-10 RTP Payload Format for MVC Video for Proposed Standard Dec-10 Submit RTP Payload Format for MIDI for Proposed Standard Specification of metric blocks for use with the RTCP Extended Report (XR) framework Feb-10 Submit Multicast Acquisition Report Block Type for RTCP XR Mar-10 Submit RTCP XR Report Block for Measurement Identity Apr-10 Submit RTCP XR Report Block for Burst/Gap Discard metric Reporting Apr-10 Submit RTCP XR Report Block for Burst/Gap Loss metric Reporting Apr-10 Submit RTCP XR Report Block for Concealed Seconds metric Reporting Apr-10 Submit RTCP XR Report Block for Delay metric Reporting Apr-10 Submit RTCP XR Report Block for Discard metric Reporting Apr-10 Submit RTCP XR Report Block for Jitter Buffer Metric Reporting Apr-10 Submit RTCP XR Report Block for Loss Concealment metric Reporting Apr-10 Submit RTCP XR Report Block for Packet Delay Variation Metric Reporting Apr-10 Submit Real-time Transport Control Protocol Extension Report for Run Length Encoding of Discarded Packets Apr-10 Submit RTCP XR Report Block for QoE Metrics Reporting Extensions to the core protocols to facilitate joining, synchronizing, control, and monitoring of RTP multimedia Jan-10 Submit Unicast-Based Rapid Acquisition of Multicast RTP Sessions for Proposed Standard Jan-10 Submit Rapid Synchronization of RTP Flows for Proposed Standard Jan-10 Submit Forward-shifted RTP Redundancy Payload Support for Proposed Standard Apr-10 Submit Considerations for RAMS Scenarios for Informational _______________________________________________ Audio/Video Transport Working Group avt@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt From ogud@ogud.com Thu Jan 28 11:39:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA783A681B for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:39:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JlBUqDoAi6iL for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:39:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557663A67D4 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Contavalli Internet-Draft W. van der Gaast Intended status: Standards Track Google Expires: July 30, 2010 S. Leach D. Rodden Neustar January 26, 2010 Client IP information in DNS requests draft-vandergaast-edns-client-ip-00 Abstract This draft defines an EDNS0 extension to allow Authoritative Nameservers to return varying replies based upon the network address of the client that initiated the query rather than of the client's Recursive Resolver. From dromasca@avaya.com Thu Jan 28 22:32:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7743A68B2; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:32:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.308 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.308 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.291, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ShsYxZXz3JvP; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:32:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289C53A6899; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:32:57 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,366,1262581200"; d="scan'208";a="202894068" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 29 Jan 2010 01:33:17 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.11]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 29 Jan 2010 01:32:36 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 07:32:15 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for the February 4, 2010 Telechat Thread-Index: AcqgcdScETYv2AgHRzSLba9xvhSfDAAOomBQ From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: , "IETF DNS Directorate" , , Subject: [dns-dir] FW: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for the February 4, 2010 Telechat X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:32:58 -0000 Please find below the preliminary agenda of the 2/4 IESG telechat. Please send your comments, questions and concerns about the documents and WG charter for approval before 2/3 COB the latest.=20 Thanks and Regards, Dan =20 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Items o draft-ietf-ccamp-pc-spc-rsvpte-ext-06 RSVP-TE Signaling Extension For Management Plane To Control Plane LSP Handover In A GMPLS Enabled Transport Network. (Proposed Standard) Note: Lou Berger (lberger@labn.net) is the document shepherd. Token: Adrian Farrel o draft-ietf-sipcore-199-02 Response Code for Indication of Terminated Dialog (Proposed Standard) Note: Gonzalo Camarillo (Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com) is the document shepherd. Token: Robert Sparks o draft-ietf-trill-rbridge-protocol-15 Rbridges: Base Protocol Specification (Proposed Standard) Note: Erik Nordmark (erik.nordmark@sun.com) is the Document Shepherd. Token: Ralph Droms Was deferred by Adrian Farrel on 2010-01-20 o draft-ietf-6man-text-addr-representation-04 A Recommendation for IPv6 Address Text Representation (Proposed Standard) Token: Jari Arkko 2.1.2 Returning Items o draft-ietf-sipping-rtcp-summary-08 Session Initiation Protocol Event Package for Voice Quality Reporting (Proposed Standard) Token: Cullen Jennings 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Items NONE 2.2.2 Returning Items NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Items o draft-ietf-dkim-deployment-11 DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) Development, Deployment and Operations (Informational) Token: Pasi Eronen o draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib-06 CAPWAP Protocol Binding MIB for IEEE 802.11 (Informational) Note: Margaret Wasserman (mrw@sandstorm.net) is the document shepherd. Token: Dan Romascanu o draft-josefsson-kerberos5-starttls-08 Using Kerberos V5 over the Transport Layer Security (TLS) protocol (Informational) Note: Jeffrey Hutzelman (jhutz@cmu.edu) is the document shepherd. Token: Tim Polk 3.1.2 Returning Items NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Items o draft-turner-ecprivatekey-02 Elliptic Curve Private Key Structure (Informational) Token: Tim Polk 3.2.2 Returning Items NONE 3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Items NONE 3.3.2 Returning Items NONE 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review o Congestion Exposure (conex) Token: Lars o Peer to Peer Streaming Protocol (ppsp) Token: Lars 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review o IP Security Maintenance and Extensions (ipsecme) Token: Pasi 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval o Audio/Video Transport (avt) Token: Robert o Network-Based Mobility Extensions (netext) Token: Jari From ogud@ogud.com Fri Jan 29 07:09:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7483A6818 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 07:09:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.399 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.800, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uwPHNKik08ps for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 07:09:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FB13A686E for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 07:09:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from valholl.ogud.com (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o0TF9RBL007419 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:09:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) Message-Id: <201001291509.o0TF9RBL007419@stora.ogud.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:09:22 -0500 To: "IETF DNS Directorate" From: Olafur Gudmundsson In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.20.30.4 Subject: Re: [dns-dir] FW: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for the February 4, 2010 Telechat X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:09:07 -0000 At 01:32 29/01/2010, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: >Please find below the preliminary agenda of the 2/4 IESG telechat. >Please send your comments, questions and concerns about the documents >and WG charter for approval before 2/3 COB the latest. > >Thanks and Regards, > >Dan > > > >3. Document Actions >3.1 WG Submissions >3.1.1 New Items > > o draft-ietf-dkim-deployment-11 > DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) Development, Deployment and > Operations (Informational) > Token: Pasi Eronen This document is in the DNS early warning data base, it needs DNS operational review. Any takers ? Olafur