From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Mon Jan 1 12:19:25 2001 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA27936 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 12:19:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from lserv by psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14D80E-00073U-00 for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Mon, 01 Jan 2001 08:40:06 -0800 Received: from rip.psg.com ([147.28.0.39] ident=exim) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14D80E-00073O-00 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 01 Jan 2001 08:40:06 -0800 Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14D80E-0004cl-00 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 01 Jan 2001 08:40:06 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: list policy Message-Id: From: Randy Bush Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 03:00:01 -0800 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit namedroppers@ops.ietf.org is the mailing list for the ietf dnsext wg. see for the wg charter. messages should be on topics appropriate to the dnsext wg, which are various discussion of the dns protocols or administrivia of the wg itself. the list is moderated. calls for papers, announcements of events not directly relevant to the dns protocols, etc. are not appropriate. discussion of problems with particular implementations, announcements of releases, sites' misconfigurations, etc. should be done on mailing lists for the particular implementations. there is a wg for dns operational practice, dnsop, whose charter can be found at . there is a mailing list for discussion of whose implementation is better, and why someone else's is broken. it is weenie-war@ops.ietf.org. all discussions of such nature should occur there or on /dev/null. unlike the namedroppers list, weenie-war@ops.ietf.org is not archived. discussion of this policy is a topic for the poisson wg. poisson's charter can be found at . to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Thu Jan 4 10:43:38 2001 Received: from psg.com (psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id KAA07677 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:43:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from lserv by psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14EBpy-000Mgy-00 for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Thu, 04 Jan 2001 06:57:54 -0800 Received: from rip.psg.com ([147.28.0.39] ident=exim) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14EBpx-000Mgs-00 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2001 06:57:53 -0800 Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14EBpx-000J2S-00 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2001 06:57:53 -0800 Message-Id: <200101041225.HAA02107@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-dnsext-dnssec-roadmap-01.txt Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 07:25:42 -0500 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the DNS Extensions Working Group of the IETF. Title : DNS Security Document Roadmap Author(s) : S. Rose Filename : draft-ietf-dnsext-dnssec-roadmap-01.txt Pages : 11 Date : 03-Jan-01 DNS Security (DNSSEC)technology is composed of extensions to the Domain Name System (DNS) protocol that provide data integrity and authentication to security aware resolvers and applications through the use of cryptographic digital signatures. Several documents exist to describe these extensions and the implementation specific details regarding specific digital signing schemes. The interrelationship between these different documents is discussed here. A brief overview of what to find in which document and author guidelines for what to include in new DNS Security documents, or revisions to existing documents, is described. 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From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Fri Jan 5 11:37:15 2001 Received: from psg.com (psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id LAA16226 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:37:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from lserv by psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14EZOS-000AQJ-00 for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Fri, 05 Jan 2001 08:07:04 -0800 Received: from rip.psg.com ([147.28.0.39] ident=exim) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14EZOS-000AQD-00 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 05 Jan 2001 08:07:04 -0800 Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14EZOS-000Bdd-00 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 05 Jan 2001 08:07:04 -0800 Message-Id: <200101051214.HAA08866@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-dnsext-zone-status-04.txt Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 07:14:11 -0500 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the DNS Extensions Working Group of the IETF. Title : DNS Security Extension Clarification on Zone Status Author(s) : E. Lewis Filename : draft-ietf-dnsext-zone-status-04.txt Pages : 9 Date : 04-Jan-01 The definition of a secured zone is presented, clarifying and updating sections of RFC 2535. RFC 2535 defines a zone to be secured based on a per algorithm basis, e.g., a zone can be secured with RSA keys, and not secured with DSA keys. This document changes this to define a zone to be secured or not secured regardless of the key algorithm used (or not used). To further simplify the determination of a zone's status, 'experimentally secure' status is deprecated. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dnsext-zone-status-04.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Fri Jan 12 10:35:11 2001 Received: from psg.com (psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id KAA10682 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:35:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from lserv by psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14H5ge-000OR7-00 for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:00:16 -0800 Received: from rip.psg.com ([147.28.0.39] ident=exim) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14H5ge-000OR1-00 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:00:16 -0800 Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14H5ge-0009bG-00 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:00:16 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Randy Bush Subject: Reminder - use correct "From:". Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk Message-Id: To: namedroppers-data@psg.com Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:00:16 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit please remember to use the correct "From:" addres when you send messages to this list. 'correct' means that the address in your "From:" mail header field should be the same as the address with which you sub scribed to the list. failing to use the correct address will bounce your message to the list admin (me) for manual approval. this can lead to significant delay, and you turn your trust to _my_ memory to remember to forward the message to the list - which is something I would be very careful with myself ... ;-) randy to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Wed Jan 17 03:00:46 2001 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id DAA14470 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 03:00:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from lserv by psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14ImwX-000IU9-00 for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:23:41 -0800 Received: from rip.psg.com ([147.28.0.39] ident=exim) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14ImwW-000ITk-00 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:23:40 -0800 Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14ImwW-0001Vb-00 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:23:40 -0800 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010116105515.00c4e600@localhost> X-Sender: ogud@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:57:46 -0500 To: DNSEXT WG Mailing list From: Olafur Gudmundsson Subject: DNSEXT WGLC Summary: RFC161[12] to historic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk This working group last call has completed. The consensus of the working group is to advance this document and retire the two RFC's. In addition the working group has decided to not take on specifying replacement documents, but will process any complete MIB documents vendors want to publish as INFORMATIONAL/EXPERIMENTAL. Olafur to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Wed Jan 17 19:55:28 2001 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id TAA00093 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:55:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from lserv by psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14J2qm-0002uU-00 for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:22:48 -0800 Received: from rip.psg.com ([147.28.0.39] ident=exim) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14J2qm-0002uN-00 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:22:48 -0800 Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14J2qm-00086k-00 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:22:48 -0800 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010117231030.02748310@nordic.cisco.com> X-Sender: hta@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:12:47 +0100 To: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org From: Harald Alvestrand Subject: EDNS0.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk beating on a dead horse: the debate about EDNS0.5 seems to have ended with three negative comments, two replies from me, and no further discussion on the issues. Arguments for: - Allows experiments where people can see what's happening - Quite simple mechanism Arguments against: - Implementation complexity - People will do experiments I would like to have this debate finish. -- Harald Tveit Alvestrand, alvestrand@cisco.com +47 41 44 29 94 Personal email: Harald@Alvestrand.no to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Tue Jan 23 10:57:26 2001 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id KAA15835 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:57:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from lserv by psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14L5C0-0009cX-00 for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:17:08 -0800 Received: from dhcp70.ripemtg.ripe.net ([193.0.4.70] helo=roam.psg.com) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14L5Bz-0009cQ-00 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:17:08 -0800 Received: from randy by roam.psg.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14L5By-0001av-00 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:17:06 +0100 Message-Id: <200101231233.HAA09242@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-dnsext-ad-is-secure-01.txt Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:33:32 -0500 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the DNS Extensions Working Group of the IETF. Title : Redefinition of DNS AD bit Author(s) : B. Wellington, O. Gudmundsson Filename : draft-ietf-dnsext-ad-is-secure-01.txt Pages : 4 Date : 22-Jan-01 Based on implementation experience, the current definition of the AD bit in the DNS header is not useful. This draft changes the specification so that the AD bit is only set on answers where signatures have been cryptographically verified. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dnsext-ad-is-secure-01.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-dnsext-ad-is-secure-01.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dnsext-ad-is-secure-01.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. 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From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Tue Jan 23 10:58:15 2001 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id KAA15856 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:58:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from lserv by psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14L5Bw-0009cM-00 for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:17:04 -0800 Received: from dhcp70.ripemtg.ripe.net ([193.0.4.70] helo=roam.psg.com) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14L5Bv-0009cG-00 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:17:03 -0800 Received: from randy by roam.psg.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14L5Br-0001at-00 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:16:59 +0100 Message-Id: <200101231233.HAA09226@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-dnsext-message-size-02.txt Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:33:28 -0500 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the DNS Extensions Working Group of the IETF. Title : DNSSEC and IPv6 A6 aware server/resolver message size requirements Author(s) : O. Gudmundsson Filename : draft-ietf-dnsext-message-size-02.txt Pages : 6 Date : 22-Jan-01 This document mandates support for EDNS0 in DNS entities claiming to support DNS Security Extensions and A6 records. This requirement is necessary because these new features increase the size of DNS messages. If EDNS0 is not supported fallback to TCP will happen, having a detrimental impact on query latency and DNS server load. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dnsext-message-size-02.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-dnsext-message-size-02.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dnsext-message-size-02.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. 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