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The chairs are trying to move the items at the IESG out and we are planning on posting a new draft charter soon. Olafur & Olaf -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From boz@momentum.net Tue Jun 05 17:59:23 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hvh3j-0002E7-Lg for dnsext-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:59:23 -0400 Received: from pd9ea4d3d.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.234.77.61]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hvh3i-0003Se-KQ for dnsext-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:59:23 -0400 Received: (qmail 15060 invoked from network); Wed, 6 Jun 2007 00:02:46 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ind) (86.36.124.173) by pd9ea4d3d.dip.t-dialin.net with SMTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2007 00:02:46 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c7a7bd$3fd06cf0$ad7c2456@ind> From: "trellis" To: Subject: escaped asst. Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 00:02:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C7A7CE.0350B170" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 4.1 (++++) X-Scan-Signature: 42e3ed3f10a1d8bef690f09da16f507a ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C7A7CE.0350B170 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0005_01C7A7CE.0352D450" ------=_NextPart_001_0005_01C7A7CE.0352D450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable " I know what you mean though. Robert McLaws: Windows Vista Edition : = Think Google Respects Your Privacy? There's a vast difference between the two and comparing the two = companies is without value. Core Image is lacking, Core Data is lacking in areas etc. Thus far, this year, the U. So I can trust that Microsoft's going to respect me when it comes to the = way they store data. I've been in airports on a different contient and bumped into people I = haven't seen for a decade. I'm off to spend time with my family today, so everyone have a safe and = happy holiday! The Vista beta process was a totally different beast. Long Zheng posted the settings for the Bubbles, Mystify, and Ribbons = screensavers back in September before Windows Vista officially shipped. Photography Pros Photography Directory Photograhy links directory - = FreePhotoGallery. For the good of the children, of course. It will be exiting to see the development when this kind of technology = actually is implemented for real. Actually, they do, but Microsoft = didn't include options dialogs for them. Google doesn't respect its = users, and it should be getting the same lesson in respect that = Microsoft got a number of years ago. Instead of being silent, Microsoft = should be involving us from day one, showing a select group of beta = testers what they want to focus on, and letting us give feedback, before = they even start coding. HP will sue you for the title of this post. Housing prices have jumped = in the recent housing boom, but personal incomes have not kept pace. Unfortunately, there was not as much information on the subjects I was = supposed to cover as I needed, so my contribution was shorter than they = would have liked. The new management regime at Microsoft wants to go back to the old way, = because it caught them less flak in the press. As we all know, the government always handles things worse than private = companies: public schools, postal service, cheese. All images Copyright Kathy Nemec-Lucas Photography. The tech press = lambasted Microsoft for not being able to accomplish their vision, and = Longhorn was maligned ad nauseam. Kathy offers on location sessions in = Westport, Woodbridge, Orange, Milford, Shelton, New Canaan, Weston, = Wilton, Ridgefield, Newtown, Bethel, Seymour, Norwalk. com telling us who we should marry. ------=_NextPart_001_0005_01C7A7CE.0352D450 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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" I know what you mean though. Robert = McLaws:=20 Windows Vista Edition : Think Google Respects Your Privacy?
There's a vast difference between the = two and=20 comparing the two companies is without value.
Core Image is lacking, Core Data is = lacking in=20 areas etc.
Thus far, this year, the = U.
So I can trust that Microsoft's going = to respect me=20 when it comes to the way they store data.
I've been in airports on a different = contient and=20 bumped into people I haven't seen for a decade.
I'm off to spend time with my family = today, so=20 everyone have a safe and happy holiday!
The Vista beta process was a totally = different=20 beast.
Long Zheng posted the settings for the = Bubbles,=20 Mystify, and Ribbons screensavers back in September before Windows Vista = officially=20 shipped.
Photography Pros Photography Directory = Photograhy=20 links directory - FreePhotoGallery. For the good of the children, of=20 course.
It will be exiting to see the = development when this=20 kind of technology actually is implemented for real. Actually, they do, = but=20 Microsoft didn't include options dialogs for them. Google doesn't = respect its users,=20 and it should be getting the same lesson in respect that Microsoft got a = number of=20 years ago. Instead of being silent, Microsoft should be involving us = from day one,=20 showing a select group of beta testers what they want to focus on, and = letting us=20 give feedback, before they even start coding.
HP will sue you for the title of this = post. Housing=20 prices have jumped in the recent housing boom, but personal incomes have = not kept=20 pace.
Unfortunately, there was not as much = information on=20 the subjects I was supposed to cover as I needed, so my contribution was = shorter=20 than they would have liked.
The new management regime at Microsoft = wants to go=20 back to the old way, because it caught them less flak in the = press.
As we all know, the government always = handles=20 things worse than private companies: public schools, postal service,=20 cheese.
All images Copyright Kathy Nemec-Lucas = Photography.=20 The tech press lambasted Microsoft for not being able to accomplish = their vision,=20 and Longhorn was maligned ad nauseam. Kathy offers on location sessions = in Westport,=20 Woodbridge, Orange, Milford, Shelton, New Canaan, Weston, Wilton, = Ridgefield,=20 Newtown, Bethel, Seymour, Norwalk.
com telling us who we should=20 marry.
------=_NextPart_001_0005_01C7A7CE.0352D450-- ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C7A7CE.0350B170-- From yoa@ameritrade.com Tue Jun 05 18:03:44 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hvh7w-0004d7-2c for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:03:44 -0400 Received: from pd9ea4d3d.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.234.77.61]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hvh7v-0003mR-3J for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:03:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 11933 invoked from network); Wed, 6 Jun 2007 00:07:16 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO yug) (24.145.56.65) by pd9ea4d3d.dip.t-dialin.net with SMTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2007 00:07:16 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c7a7bd$e0e5c2c0$41389118@yug> From: "aspersion" To: Subject: cast floodlit Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 00:07:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C7A7CE.A4656B00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1158 X-Spam-Score: 4.1 (++++) X-Scan-Signature: 7da5a831c477fb6ef97f379a05fb683c ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C7A7CE.A4656B00 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0005_01C7A7CE.A467B4F0" ------=_NextPart_001_0005_01C7A7CE.A467B4F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been well briefed on Microsoft's privacy policies, and they do = not store information on their servers that can identify who you are on = their back end. But my ISP does not have EVERYONE's data, just their = subscribers. Subscribe View Sample Recent Entries The State of Architecture in = America Built to Last . Screw the talking heads, and screw the tech press. I've seen GigaOm's Kevin Kelleher try to reason it out through an HR = perspective. Objetivos Sigma para Olyumpus -cuatro tercios-. The whole concept of "privacy in public" is an illusion. And put some pants on. Seems to me that his approach works just fine for Apple, its customers = and its shareholders. On the other hand, Google is content to store my search history, my = browsing history, pictures of me walking around my house, my license = plate. Apparently that wasn't enough time. The commercial and government = sectors are seeing good growth, with total new construction volume high. If you're no longer OK with it, then you have a problem. Google has no = such respect, so they show people in their houses, outside strip clubs, = outside adult bookstores, and vehicle license plates. The real question = is if the class action law suit would have succeeded in destroying MSFT! = What makes this any different? It's the next wave of computing. I don't suppose there's anything = legally wrong with that. Commercial and Government While residential construction has been weaker = of late, commercial construction has been notably strong. But my ISP does not have EVERYONE's data, just their subscribers. I've seen GigaOm's Kevin Kelleher try to reason it out through an HR = perspective. With this, we open the floor for intelligence from the front line. Yeah, = THAT sounds like fun. It didn't turn out that way, but is still a very = good OS regardless and a great evoluationary step. There was a time not so long ago, where regular people didn't have a say = in the way that software was developed. ------=_NextPart_001_0005_01C7A7CE.A467B4F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I have been well briefed on Microsoft's = privacy=20 policies, and they do not store information on their servers that can = identify who=20 you are on their back end. But my ISP does not have EVERYONE's data, = just their=20 subscribers.
Subscribe View Sample Recent Entries = The State=20 of Architecture in America Built to Last .
Screw the talking heads, and screw the = tech=20 press.
I've seen GigaOm's Kevin Kelleher try = to reason it=20 out through an HR perspective.
Objetivos Sigma para Olyumpus = -cuatro=20 tercios-.
The whole concept of "privacy in = public" is an=20 illusion.
And put some pants on.
Seems to me that his approach works = just fine for=20 Apple, its customers and its shareholders.
On the other hand, Google is content to = store my=20 search history, my browsing history, pictures of me walking around my = house, my=20 license plate.
Apparently that wasn't enough time. The = commercial=20 and government sectors are seeing good growth, with total new = construction volume=20 high.
If you're no longer OK with it, then = you have a=20 problem. Google has no such respect, so they show people in their = houses, outside=20 strip clubs, outside adult bookstores, and vehicle license plates. The = real question=20 is if the class action law suit would have succeeded in destroying MSFT! = What makes=20 this any different?
It's the next wave of computing. I = don't suppose=20 there's anything legally wrong with that.
Commercial and Government While = residential=20 construction has been weaker of late, commercial construction has been = notably=20 strong.
But my ISP does not have EVERYONE's = data, just=20 their subscribers.
I've seen GigaOm's Kevin Kelleher try = to reason it=20 out through an HR perspective.
With this, we open the floor for = intelligence from=20 the front line. Yeah, THAT sounds like fun. It didn't turn out that way, = but is=20 still a very good OS regardless and a great evoluationary = step.
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 11:37:23 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C7A8F8.37290760" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 3.2 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: 932cba6e0228cc603da43d861a7e09d8 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C7A8F8.37290760 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01C7A8F8.372CB0E0" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C7A8F8.372CB0E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tell us a little bit about that. I was faced with this dilemma. This is the first time that my job was actually in jeopardy and where = the FDA actually intended to fire me. MANETTE: Has anyone tried to = silence you and stop you from becoming a whistleblower? So whose = interest was being served there? That I have a job and I'll be able to support my family, that I'm = protected from retaliation, that maybe some good will come out of that. = Another one comes along and the FDA feels its obligation to approve it. You have to go through the chain of command and if somebody up above you = says that they want things done in a particular way well, they want it = done in a particular way. What I'm hoping is that Congress will respond. It's the same with the ads that appear in magazines. That's very = difficult and it is a little bit discouraging. It's all part of the same = person. This is another way that the FDA has betrayed the American = public and has betrayed the public health. Can you explain what you = meant by that? You have to change the culture of the organization, and you have to = change the incentives in the organization. But, if there is any way that = they can approve the drug, they will. Now with management it's been = another story. I can't change the FDA, but Congress can. You need to weed the garden patch of drugs that aren't doing what = they're supposed to do. But a lawsuit for multiple millions of dollars = has more of an impact. I knew that was not a sustainable argument. I can = say this with certainty. If a drug is so bad that they can't find a = reason to approve it, they won't. It creates needs or desires where there really isn't a need or a desire. = You take ten drugs off the market well, no good deed goes unpunished at = the FDA. Third, all of these drugs appear to have the ability to = increase the risk of suicidal behavior. Companies are required to put = some of the labeling in the ad. So it's a captured agency and America is = not well served when industry is calling all the shots. The company that has that second drug markets it like it's this = breakthrough medicine. There is a problem and the evidence is = overwhelming, but we'll just have to wait and see. If I don't tell them = the truth, then I'm now responsible, in part, for future deaths. At = least it's giving them something. It's not a wonderful system. ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C7A8F8.372CB0E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Tell us a little bit about = that.
I was faced with this = dilemma.
This is the first time that my job was = actually in=20 jeopardy and where the FDA actually intended to fire me. MANETTE: Has = anyone tried=20 to silence you and stop you from becoming a whistleblower? So whose = interest was=20 being served there?
That I have a job and I'll be able to = support my=20 family, that I'm protected from retaliation, that maybe some good will = come out of=20 that. Another one comes along and the FDA feels its obligation to = approve=20 it.
You have to go through the chain of = command and if=20 somebody up above you says that they want things done in a particular = way well, they=20 want it done in a particular way. What I'm hoping is that Congress = will=20 respond.
It's the same with the ads that appear = in=20 magazines. That's very difficult and it is a little bit discouraging. = It's all part=20 of the same person. This is another way that the FDA has betrayed the = American=20 public and has betrayed the public health. Can you explain what you = meant by=20 that?
You have to change the culture of the = organization,=20 and you have to change the incentives in the organization. But, if there = is any way=20 that they can approve the drug, they will. Now with management it's been = another=20 story. I can't change the FDA, but Congress can.
You need to weed the garden patch of = drugs that=20 aren't doing what they're supposed to do. But a lawsuit for multiple = millions of=20 dollars has more of an impact. I knew that was not a sustainable = argument. I can say=20 this with certainty. If a drug is so bad that they can't find a reason = to approve=20 it, they won't.
It creates needs or desires where there = really=20 isn't a need or a desire. You take ten drugs off the market well, no = good deed goes=20 unpunished at the FDA. Third, all of these drugs appear to have the = ability to=20 increase the risk of suicidal behavior. Companies are required to put = some of the=20 labeling in the ad. So it's a captured agency and America is not well = served when=20 industry is calling all the shots.
The company that has that second drug = markets it=20 like it's this breakthrough medicine. There is a problem and the = evidence is=20 overwhelming, but we'll just have to wait and see. If I don't tell them = the truth,=20 then I'm now responsible, in part, for future deaths. At least it's = giving them=20 something.
It's not a wonderful=20 system.
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Spotlight Homes, Inc. (OTC:SPHM.PK), a builder of luxury homes with Green technologies, has entered negotiations to acquire a commercial and residential real estate contractor.
 
Company name: COST CONTAINMENT TEC
Company symbol: SPHM.PK
Current Price: 0.14
Target: 0.40 +250%
 
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Company name: COST CONTAINMENT TEC
Company symbol: SPHM.PK
Current Price: 0.14
Target: 0.40 +250%
 
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  • Helps men with ED maintain an erection during sex
  • Can work in as little as 14 minutes
  • Viagra-induced erections satisfy the partners of men with ED
  • Has a proven safety record
  • Works for men with ED who also have a wide range of health issues
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 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C7A9FC.C0AC7990-- From itunessoftwarefreedownload@gmail.com Sat Jun 09 00:21:17 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HwsRx-0007q2-Pe for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2007 00:21:17 -0400 Received: from [77.124.28.22] (helo=IGLD-77-124-28-22.inter.net.il) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HwsRs-0000Ku-6k for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2007 00:21:17 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c7aa4d$9b6a7f00$161c7c4d@99imrqtgdn7rsnu> From: "Hugh" To: Subject: Discounts and perfect prices only for you. Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 06:21:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="------------ms030801060106090807000304" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Score: 4.6 (++++) X-Scan-Signature: df1883a27a831c1ea5e8cfe5eb3ad38e This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------ms030801060106090807000304 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------ms050005020108090807020706" --------------ms050005020108090807020706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How does an erection occur? The penis contains two chambers called the corpora cavernosa, which run = the length of the organ. A spongy tissue fills the chambers. The corpora = cavernosa are surrounded by a membrane, called the tunica albuginea. The = spongy tissue contains smooth muscles, fibrous tissues, spaces, veins, = and arteries. The urethra, which is the channel for urine and ejaculate, = runs along the underside of the corpora cavernosa and is surrounded by = the corpus spongiosum. Erection begins with sensory or mental stimulation, or both. Impulses = from the brain and local nerves cause the muscles of the corpora = cavernosa to relax, allowing blood to flow in and fill the spaces. The = blood creates pressure in the corpora cavernosa, making the penis = expand. The tunica albuginea helps trap the blood in the corpora = cavernosa, thereby sustaining erection. When muscles in the penis = contract to stop the inflow of blood and open outflow channels, erection = is reversed. How is ED diagnosed? Patient History Medical and sexual histories help define the degree and nature of ED. A = medical history can disclose diseases that lead to ED, while a simple = recounting of sexual activity might distinguish among problems with = sexual desire, erection, ejaculation, or orgasm. Using certain prescription or illegal drugs can suggest a chemical = cause, since drug effects account for 25 percent of ED cases. Cutting = back on or substituting certain medications can often alleviate the = problem. Physical Examination A physical examination can give clues to systemic problems. For example, = if the penis is not sensitive to touching, a problem in the nervous = system may be the cause. Abnormal secondary sex characteristics, such as = hair pattern or breast enlargement, can point to hormonal problems, = which would mean that the endocrine system is involved. The examiner = might discover a circulatory problem by observing decreased pulses in = the wrist or ankles. And unusual characteristics of the penis itself = could suggest the source of the problem?for example, a penis that bends = or curves when erect could be the result of Peyronie's disease. Laboratory Tests Several laboratory tests can help diagnose ED. Tests for systemic = diseases include blood counts, urinalysis, lipid profile, and = measurements of creatinine and liver enzymes. Measuring the amount of = free testosterone in the blood can yield information about problems with = the endocrine system and is indicated especially in patients with = decreased sexual desire. Other Tests Monitoring erections that occur during sleep (nocturnal penile = tumescence) can help rule out certain psychological causes of ED. = Healthy men have involuntary erections during sleep. If nocturnal = erections do not occur, then ED is likely to have a physical rather than = psychological cause. Tests of nocturnal erections are not completely = reliable, however. Scientists have not standardized such tests and have = not determined when they should be applied for best results. Psychosocial Examination A psychosocial examination, using an interview and a questionnaire, = reveals psychological factors. A man's sexual partner may also be = interviewed to determine expectations and perceptions during sexual = intercourse. --------------ms050005020108090807020706 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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The penis contains two chambers called the corpora cavernosa, which = run the=20 length of the organ. A spongy tissue fills the chambers. The corpora = cavernosa=20 are surrounded by a membrane, called the tunica albuginea. The spongy = tissue=20 contains smooth muscles, fibrous tissues, spaces, veins, and arteries. = The=20 urethra, which is the channel for urine and ejaculate, runs along the = underside=20 of the corpora cavernosa and is surrounded by the corpus spongiosum.

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How is ED diagnosed?

Patient = History

Medical=20 and sexual histories help define the degree and nature of ED. A medical = history=20 can disclose diseases that lead to ED, while a simple recounting of = sexual=20 activity might distinguish among problems with sexual desire, erection,=20 ejaculation, or orgasm.

Using certain prescription or illegal drugs can suggest a chemical = cause,=20 since drug effects account for 25 percent of ED cases. Cutting back on = or=20 substituting certain medications can often alleviate the problem.

Physical=20 Examination

A physical examination can = give=20 clues to systemic problems. For example, if the penis is not sensitive = to=20 touching, a problem in the nervous system may be the cause. Abnormal = secondary=20 sex characteristics, such as hair pattern or breast enlargement, can = point to=20 hormonal problems, which would mean that the endocrine system is = involved. The=20 examiner might discover a circulatory problem by observing decreased = pulses in=20 the wrist or ankles. And unusual characteristics of the penis itself = could=20 suggest the source of the problem�for example, a penis that bends = or curves when=20 erect could be the result of Peyronie's disease.

Laboratory=20 Tests

Several laboratory tests can help = diagnose ED.=20 Tests for systemic diseases include blood counts, urinalysis, lipid = profile, and=20 measurements of creatinine and liver enzymes. Measuring the amount of = free=20 testosterone in the blood can yield information about problems with the=20 endocrine system and is indicated especially in patients with decreased = sexual=20 desire.

Other=20 Tests

Monitoring erections that occur = during=20 sleep (nocturnal penile tumescence) can help rule out certain = psychological=20 causes of ED. Healthy men have involuntary erections during sleep. If = nocturnal=20 erections do not occur, then ED is likely to have a physical rather than = psychological cause. Tests of nocturnal erections are not completely = reliable,=20 however. Scientists have not standardized such tests and have not = determined=20 when they should be applied for best results.

Psychosocial=20 Examination

A psychosocial = examination, using=20 an interview and a questionnaire, reveals psychological factors. A man's = sexual=20 partner may also be interviewed to determine expectations and = perceptions during=20 sexual intercourse.

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From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Mon Jun 11 04:41:24 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HxfSm-0001g7-8n; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 04:41:24 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HxfSl-0002c5-VC; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 04:41:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HxfKk-000CIp-9i for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:33:06 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [192.134.4.11] (helo=mx2.nic.fr) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HxfKZ-000CIN-3U for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:33:00 +0000 Received: from mx2.nic.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.nic.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id D488D1C0125; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:32:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from relay2.nic.fr (relay2.nic.fr [192.134.4.163]) by mx2.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAD41C0124; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:32:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bortzmeyer.nic.fr (batilda.nic.fr [192.134.4.69]) by relay2.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B6958ED5D; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:32:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:32:50 +0200 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: Federico Lucifredi Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: DNSSEC in conjunction with mDNS+DNS-SD Message-ID: <20070611083250.GA9955@nic.fr> References: <466C0FF3.9000902@ximian.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <466C0FF3.9000902@ximian.com> X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 X-Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-4-686 i686 Organization: NIC France X-URL: http://www.nic.fr/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2409bba43e9c8d580670fda8b695204a On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 10:51:31AM -0400, Federico Lucifredi wrote a message of 17 lines which said: > I was wondering if any published work exists on the use of DNSSEC in > conjunction with the set of protocols collectively known as "Apple > Bonjour" (mDNS, DNS-SD, etc). Hmm, for non-IETF protocols? I doubt it since there is an IETF protocol in this area, LLMNR (RFC 4795). This RFC says, in 5.3 "Authentication": (c) LLMNR implementations MAY support DNSSEC [RFC4033]. In order to support DNSSEC, LLMNR implementations MAY be configured with trust anchors, or they MAY make use of keys obtained from DNS queries. Since LLMNR does not support "delegated trust" (CD or AD bits), LLMNR implementations cannot make use of DNSSEC unless they are DNSSEC-aware and support validation. Unlike approaches [a] or [b], DNSSEC permits a responder to demonstrate ownership of a name, not just membership within a trusted group. As a result, it enables protection against forgery. -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From pypr@telelangues.ca Mon Jun 11 06:34:01 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HxhDl-0005CV-0E for dnsext-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 06:34:01 -0400 Received: from [122.42.165.15] (helo=junyz) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HxhDj-0000bN-9e for dnsext-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 06:34:00 -0400 Message-ID: <466D250C.5040307@telelangues.ca> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:33:48 +0900 From: Galvan User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dnsext-archive@ietf.org Subject: If the instruction is successfully disassembled it is printed out. 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The curpsinfo is also a built-in variable that provides the process state of the process associated with current thread. DTrace and Sun Studio Tools Engineers need to use different tools at various stages of development to resolve software issues, such as memory leaks, thread synchronization, and performance problems. d script utilizes the lwp-create, lwp-start, and lwp-exit probes to report useful information about the lwp creation and the time is spent in each lwp. See the OpenMP User's Guide for details. When they are not being used for run time checking, ASSUME pragmas can also improve optimization. The pid provider is by far the provider most widely used by application developers. DTrace Architecture The core of DTrace - including all instrumentation, probe processing and buffering - resides in the kernel. The objective for the analyzer being written here is to print out the traced instructions. 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And how should this poor Indian ever dream that men, beings like
himself, should be there under the water watching his movements and
losing no detail of the fishing. Yes No Default for locale.
Yes No Default for locale. By a name I know not how to tell thee who
I am.
Just with the wind shut away it felt warmer, but that would not be
enQugh. Using her Confessor's ability sapped her strength.
LADY (Keeping him at arms length) Leave me. Context menus appear when
you right-click various items and elements, either in Opera's user
interface or on a Web page.
There were no Trollocs there. But Tom's energy did not last.
By William Beckford of Fonthill. An identical burden is placed on the
deputy resident at the same time as he is fulfilling the obligations
of a deputy.
There were no charges filed. Before reconnecting, however, the
possibilities mentioned below should be explored.
In the hot glare of the sun a woman whom Pandion recognized as Nyora
was moving gracefully along the path. LADY (Keeping him at arms
length) Leave me.
It's a train long-suffering O Lord a train. One thing you must make
sure of is to disable this function if the app is running under any
OS other then Win2K.
Those insiders will end up fulfilling a role similar the Masters of
old-time Guilds. Its golden cupola was glinting through a murk of icy haze.
If this was a prison, it was the nicest jail cell I had seen in a
long time. Washington, Jefferson and Madison -- what would be the
Phoenix inner city, if there were an inner city in this sprawling
automobile-bred town -- become the haunts of transients and derelicts.
There were no human guards on the workers' entrance to the Flack
Grand Studio. No other commercially available program will do the
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3.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1Hxmtw-0007x0-Ok; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:37:56 -0400 Message-ID: <466D7A28.4010908@gis.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:36:56 -0400 From: Danny Mayer Reply-To: mayer@gis.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Federico Lucifredi Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: DNSSEC in conjunction with mDNS+DNS-SD References: <466C0FF3.9000902@ximian.com> In-Reply-To: <466C0FF3.9000902@ximian.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-kostecke.net-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-kostecke.net-MailScanner-From: mayer@gis.net Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 856eb5f76e7a34990d1d457d8e8e5b7f Federico Lucifredi wrote: > Hello namedroppers, > I was wondering if any published work exists on the use of DNSSEC in > conjunction with the set of protocols collectively known as "Apple > Bonjour" (mDNS, DNS-SD, etc). > > Best -Federico Since they're unrelated I'm not sure what your question means. Danny -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Mon Jun 11 13:26:03 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HxneV-0004Ov-3i; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:26:03 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HxneT-0003zP-Mw; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:26:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HxnZA-000CvF-NX for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:20:32 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HEADER_SPAM autolearn=no version=3.1.8 Received: from [66.92.146.160] (helo=ogud.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HxnYz-000CtH-6z for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:20:27 +0000 Received: from mail.ogud.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l5BHK8a1029241 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:20:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from namedroppers@mail.ogud.com) Received: (from namedroppers@localhost) by mail.ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l5BH59Lc019617 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:05:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from namedroppers) Received: from [204.152.184.138] (helo=ntp2.ntp.isc.org) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HxRz9-000Oqi-VR for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:18:01 +0000 Received: from 65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net (65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net [65.86.158.146]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ntp2.ntp.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263F439905; Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:17:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayer@ntp.isc.org) Received: from cust-63-209-225-49.bos-dynamic.gis.net ([63.209.225.49] helo=[10.10.10.100]) by 65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net with esmtpsa (SSL 3.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1HxRz1-0004qt-NZ; Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:17:47 -0400 Message-ID: <466C404C.8010302@ntp.isc.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:17:48 -0400 From: Danny Mayer Reply-To: mayer@ntp.isc.org User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Federico Lucifredi Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: DNSSEC in conjunction with mDNS+DNS-SD References: <466C0FF3.9000902@ximian.com> In-Reply-To: <466C0FF3.9000902@ximian.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-kostecke.net-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-kostecke.net-MailScanner-From: mayer@ntp.isc.org Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 93238566e09e6e262849b4f805833007 [ Moderators note: Post was moderated, either because it was posted by a non-subscriber, or because it was over 20K. With the massive amount of spam, it is easy to miss and therefore delete relevant posts by non-subscribers. Please fix your subscription addresses. ] Federico Lucifredi wrote: > Hello namedroppers, > I was wondering if any published work exists on the use of DNSSEC in > conjunction with the set of protocols collectively known as "Apple > Bonjour" (mDNS, DNS-SD, etc). > > Best -Federico Since they're unrelated I'm not sure what your question means. 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His grandfather would frown at a boy who did not master hisone of his men-Quintus would have bet the land he no longer owned that From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Tue Jun 12 03:16:10 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy0bq-0005z7-9A; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:16:10 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy0bo-0001G8-Uj; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:16:10 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hy0SU-00012I-PN for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:06:30 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [192.134.4.11] (helo=mx2.nic.fr) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hy0SJ-00011a-Sg for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:06:25 +0000 Received: from mx2.nic.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.nic.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id A85301C00E8; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 09:06:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from relay2.nic.fr (relay2.nic.fr [192.134.4.163]) by mx2.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A288F1C00D9; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 09:06:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bortzmeyer.nic.fr (batilda.nic.fr [192.134.4.69]) by relay2.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9650958ECE0; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 09:06:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 09:06:16 +0200 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: Danny Mayer Cc: Federico Lucifredi , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: DNSSEC in conjunction with mDNS+DNS-SD Message-ID: <20070612070616.GA13099@nic.fr> References: <466C0FF3.9000902@ximian.com> <466D7A28.4010908@gis.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <466D7A28.4010908@gis.net> X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 X-Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-4-686 i686 Organization: NIC France X-URL: http://www.nic.fr/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 856eb5f76e7a34990d1d457d8e8e5b7f On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 12:36:56PM -0400, Danny Mayer wrote a message of 18 lines which said: > Since they're unrelated I'm not sure what your question means. He probably wanted to use DNSSEC to authenticate responses coming from Apple's proprietary mDNS protocol. AFAIK, there is nothing, but you may start from the note in RFC 4795 that I mentioned? 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 4.6 (++++) X-Scan-Signature: 7aafa0432175920a4b3e118e16c5cb64 News Hits! New R&D Facility Engaged! Chan-On International Inc. Symbol: CAON Close: $0.73 News hits today on CAON and trading continues to warm up. Hitting highs of $0.90 today, we can see this building. Read the release and get on CAON first thing Tuesday. We can see this climbing all week! The races are exciting to read about, each with diverse backgrounds like ancient races of magic and slave races created for specific uses by their masters. And the thief is a complete klutz. hCalendarDayLinked, . The mage is absent minded, he can't concentrate on his surroundings. No matter what the final die roll is. The artwork for the setting is a cut above the normal however. The races all have Legacy abilities that give them unique edges over other races in certain circumstances, and each trade gets a special ability that reflects their expertise in their trade. The same goes with all other facets, from combat, exploration and survival, magic, crafting items, etc. As I often say, "people have certain expectations when they visit your web site. I can't type in a URL, images are missing, etc. The world has an amazing and epic history, ready to be brought to a head by the prophecy. hCalendarDayLinked, . This system also features the capability to create specialized martial arts. But hey, at least they didn't use MMN. The uncov folks mentioned a new site, Incuby, and how it used a sound file on their home page. Purchase Skills, spells, and abilities. If the test succeeds, then the audience understands the piece and the emotion portrayed. If the total exceeds the target level by a certain number then success levels are generated that give bonuses to results or follow up skills. Not a mention of any of these. hCalendarDayCurrent, . hCalendarMonthYearRow, . The layout and artwork is very typical of HARP publications, well laid out with typical HARP page borders and symbols. hCalendarDayLinked, . The areas it does describe are Anias, a large continent where the story line has many ties, the Shatterings, an archipelago with fairly mysterious origins, and Cyradon, the focus of the product. And the thief, a cad by any other way, can't seem to hold on to things. Apprenticeship for complex skill, autodidact; learn from doing and training. From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Tue Jun 12 10:25:04 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy7Iu-0001XK-01; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:25:04 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy7Ir-0007BB-I5; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:25:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hy7AD-000Nay-0G for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:16:05 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [69.17.117.5] (helo=mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hy7A1-000NaS-V0 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:15:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 25206 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2007 14:15:50 -0000 Received: from 72-254-53-195.client.stsn.net (HELO [10.80.195.146]) (federico@[72.254.53.195]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 12 Jun 2007 14:15:50 -0000 Message-ID: <466EAA96.2070504@ximian.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:15:50 -0400 From: Federico Lucifredi User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephane Bortzmeyer CC: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: DNSSEC in conjunction with mDNS+DNS-SD References: <466C0FF3.9000902@ximian.com> <20070611083250.GA9955@nic.fr> In-Reply-To: <20070611083250.GA9955@nic.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8abaac9e10c826e8252866cbe6766464 Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 10:51:31AM -0400, > Federico Lucifredi wrote > a message of 17 lines which said: > > >> I was wondering if any published work exists on the use of DNSSEC in >> conjunction with the set of protocols collectively known as "Apple >> Bonjour" (mDNS, DNS-SD, etc). >> > > Hmm, for non-IETF protocols? I doubt it since there is an IETF > protocol in this area, LLMNR (RFC 4795). > My understanding is that LLMNR was *rejected* as a proposed standard, and published as an informational RFC, which is the same status mDNS and DNS-SD will eventually enjoy (rejected as proposed standard, to be published later as informational - with later meaning "after OS-X ships"). Best -F -- _________________________________________ -- "'Problem' is a bleak word for challenge" - Richard Fish (Federico L. Lucifredi) - http://www.lucifredi.com -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Tue Jun 12 10:59:46 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy7qU-0007dY-J6; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:59:46 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy7oq-0006WA-FO; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:58:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hy7jy-000Ppv-L5 for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:53:02 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [192.134.4.11] (helo=mx2.nic.fr) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hy7jn-000Po4-GE for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:52:56 +0000 Received: from mx2.nic.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.nic.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 740911C00D9; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:52:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from relay2.nic.fr (relay2.nic.fr [192.134.4.163]) by mx2.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1E71C009B; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:52:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bortzmeyer.nic.fr (batilda.nic.fr [192.134.4.69]) by relay2.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6131558EBE6; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:52:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:52:47 +0200 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: Federico Lucifredi Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: DNSSEC in conjunction with mDNS+DNS-SD Message-ID: <20070612145247.GA4676@nic.fr> References: <466C0FF3.9000902@ximian.com> <20070611083250.GA9955@nic.fr> <466EAA96.2070504@ximian.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <466EAA96.2070504@ximian.com> X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 X-Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-4-686 i686 Organization: NIC France X-URL: http://www.nic.fr/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08170828343bcf1325e4a0fb4584481c On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 10:15:50AM -0400, Federico Lucifredi wrote a message of 26 lines which said: > which is the same status mDNS and DNS-SD will eventually enjoy It is difficult to foresee the future. As of today, there is no active Internet-Draft about mDNS or DNS-SD. (There was but they all expired.) -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Tue Jun 12 12:10:03 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy8wV-0001Sz-Ke; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:10:03 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy8wT-000136-9I; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:10:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hy8qW-0004NM-8h for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:03:52 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [204.152.187.1] (helo=sa.vix.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hy8qL-0004MU-EA for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:03:46 +0000 Received: from sa.vix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sa.vix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E793011425; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:03:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vixie@sa.vix.com) From: Paul Vixie To: Stephane Bortzmeyer cc: Federico Lucifredi , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: DNSSEC in conjunction with mDNS+DNS-SD In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:52:47 +0200." <20070612145247.GA4676@nic.fr> References: <466C0FF3.9000902@ximian.com> <20070611083250.GA9955@nic.fr> <466EAA96.2070504@ximian.com> <20070612145247.GA4676@nic.fr> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.0.2; nmh 1.0.4; GNU Emacs 21.3.1 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:03:40 +0000 Message-ID: <61797.1181664220@sa.vix.com> Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d17f825e43c9aed4fd65b7edddddec89 > > which is the same status mDNS and DNS-SD will eventually enjoy > > It is difficult to foresee the future. As of today, there is no active > Internet-Draft about mDNS or DNS-SD. (There was but they all expired.) do you expect that apple could get informational status rfc's if they asked? -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Tue Jun 12 13:04:21 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy9n3-0005pK-O3; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:04:21 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy9n0-0000zZ-AL; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:04:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hy9hC-0007iB-Hv for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:58:18 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [69.17.117.10] (helo=mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hy9h1-0007h5-AO for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:58:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 3467 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2007 16:58:04 -0000 Received: from 72-254-53-195.client.stsn.net (HELO [10.80.195.146]) (federico@[72.254.53.195]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 12 Jun 2007 16:58:03 -0000 Message-ID: <466ED099.5030209@ximian.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:58:01 -0400 From: Federico Lucifredi User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Vixie CC: Stephane Bortzmeyer , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: DNSSEC in conjunction with mDNS+DNS-SD References: <466C0FF3.9000902@ximian.com> <20070611083250.GA9955@nic.fr> <466EAA96.2070504@ximian.com> <20070612145247.GA4676@nic.fr> <61797.1181664220@sa.vix.com> In-Reply-To: <61797.1181664220@sa.vix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9466e0365fc95844abaf7c3f15a05c7d Paul Vixie wrote: >>> which is the same status mDNS and DNS-SD will eventually enjoy >>> >> It is difficult to foresee the future. As of today, there is no active >> Internet-Draft about mDNS or DNS-SD. (There was but they all expired.) >> > > do you expect that apple could get informational status rfc's if they asked? > Well, as it was pointed out, the future is hard to predict. For one, mDNS, DNS-SD, etc have been in the RFC process for years, and there has a large installed base and considerable experience in using it. Lets not forget, LLMNR was approved as informational a couple of years back with much less (of course, now there is Vista). Best -F -- _________________________________________ -- "'Problem' is a bleak word for challenge" - Richard Fish (Federico L. Lucifredi) - http://www.lucifredi.com -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From agray@lotterental.com Tue Jun 12 18:03:30 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyESY-0006zW-05; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:03:30 -0400 Received: from [88.234.5.162] (helo=mx01-dom.earthlink.net) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyERr-0008II-Ks; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:03:29 -0400 Received: from 211.53.209.31 (HELO mail.lotterental.com) by lists.ietf.org with esmtp (/0ZONYV2*X 990?0) id (,(?0>-F,1407-H< for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:02:50 -0200 Message-ID: <01c7ad3d$6ad51bf0$6c822ecf@agray> From: "Elijah Bernal" To: Subject: Creative Suite 3 Design $269.90 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:02:50 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C7AD56.902253F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Spam-Score: 3.2 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: 4166dd0e0c668adc975c3d3e0f1bce3b This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C7AD56.902253F0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0010_01C7AD56.902253F0" ------=_NextPart_001_0010_01C7AD56.902253F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This gap in time, this season not their own,At these masses the snow=20= hides from me.IV. 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"Sophia" To: "Bonny" Cc: "Orpha" , "Bianca Matthews" , "Jeni Morgan" , "Lura White" , "Kasandra Johnson" , "Raphael Howell" , "Meri Chapman" , "Nigel" Subject: What about this weekend Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:52:36 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_1DE_8C9F_152B5E67.E8973EA8" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Score: 3.5 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: f8ee348dcc4be4a59bc395f7cd6343ad This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_1DE_8C9F_152B5E67.E8973EA8 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_3D8_DA2A_B754F2E7.26EAA8A9" ------=_NextPart_3D8_DA2A_B754F2E7.26EAA8A9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Before blind Roger file food overthrew Chillingworth could answer, they h= earposition I will keep thy secret, nervously as 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by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyWqY-0008uk-2e for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:41:35 +0000 Received: from [10.31.32.65] (hlid.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l5DHfLiW075413; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:41:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 12:57:17 -0400 To: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org From: Edward Lewis Subject: IANA type code registration clean up Cc: ed.lewis@neustar.biz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d8ae4fd88fcaf47c1a71c804d04f413d Yet another non-technical bureaucratic thread... Looking at this URL: http://www.iana.org/assignments/dns-parameters the IANA has allocated a number of RR type codes that are not documented in RFC documents. I don't really care much about the procedural problem, but imagine someone trying to implement a DNS element without looking at the BIND source code. I would point an implementer to the IANA pages to see what, for instance, RTYPE codes have been defined. I would expect that the IANA registry would then identify the document describing the type. The URL above has a bunch of lame or weak pointers (to some of the types) and I have been trying to get IANA to change that (going back a few years now). That's not the question or matter for this group though. The question is what should be done about these undocumented types? Answer A - document them. Answer B - deprecate them. Answer A's downside is that this would mean work. I can find the last known drafts for many of them, but finding out why they died/expired is rather hard. The IETF is notorious for not documenting the rationale for disposing of ideas. (I tried to do this recently for ULA-Central and wound up having to send mail to the editors, whose email's in the last draft still fortunately worked.) Besides the threat of having to do work, something I try to avoid personally, the bigger problem would be that if we did publish an RFC containing the definition of these types, like SINK, EID, NIMROD, folks might take it that we have approved of these types. I have nothing against the types - it's just that they are ideas that have been killed and have seemingly successfully have stayed dead and buried. But if you have to write compliant software...ok, what's compliant? I'll leave that to your imagination. Answer B's downside is that we don't like to do garbage management in the IETF. The number one reason for not progressing ideas is that we are afraid we'd have to cull them later on, and we don't do that. (Yes, Bill, I know there is probably somewhere someone using a BIND 3.12.34s05May1983 version out there that has been modified to use SINK and thinks that if we deprecate the number we will cause their island economy to go belly up.) As both of these Answers have down sides, I'll propose this: Answer C - do nothing and hope no one cares. I bet that is the answer that will win out here. The downside is that we will continue to have a gray area of information about the DNS protocol. When others read up on the DNS and get confused, we won't be able to say "RTFM" - we'll have to say "sorry, my bad." Is there any desire to try to clean up what is in the IANA registry? Other than at least getting updated references? Do we want to mark the undocumented types as deprecated, not to be implemented? NIMROD, EID - does Patton's BBN account still work? ;) -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar Sarcasm doesn't scale. -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Wed Jun 13 14:49:29 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyXuL-0005vt-Ah; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:49:29 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyXuJ-00068z-TP; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:49:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyXoI-000CcB-HT for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:43:14 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [168.61.5.27] (helo=harry.mail-abuse.org) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyXo3-000CbR-99 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:43:09 +0000 Received: from [168.61.10.150] (SJC-Office-DHCP-150.Mail-Abuse.ORG [168.61.10.150]) by harry.mail-abuse.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7BA41426; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:42:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7371C996-D675-46B8-A54C-2707957E7A61@mail-abuse.org> Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Douglas Otis Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:43:02 -0700 To: Edward Lewis X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 69a74e02bbee44ab4f8eafdbcedd94a1 On Jun 13, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Edward Lewis wrote: > Yet another non-technical bureaucratic thread... > > Looking at this URL: > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/dns-parameters > > the IANA has allocated a number of RR type codes that are not > documented in RFC documents. I don't really care much about the > procedural problem, but imagine someone trying to implement a DNS > element without looking at the BIND source code. > > I would point an implementer to the IANA pages to see what, for > instance, RTYPE codes have been defined. I would expect that the > IANA registry would then identify the document describing the type. > The URL above has a bunch of lame or weak pointers (to some of the > types) and I have been trying to get IANA to change that (going > back a few years now). > > That's not the question or matter for this group though. The > question is what should be done about these undocumented types? > > Answer A - document them. > Answer B - deprecate them. +B. Would this require a draft listing these items to assist IANA in making the changes? -Doug -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Wed Jun 13 14:49:39 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyXuV-0006Aj-0u; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:49:39 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyXuT-0006BY-Nh; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:49:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyXny-000Cal-Ab for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:42:54 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, INFO_TLD autolearn=no version=3.1.8 Received: from [207.219.45.62] (helo=mail.libertyrms.com) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyXnn-000CYz-88 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:42:48 +0000 Received: from andrew-vpn.int.libertyrms.com ([10.1.7.6] helo=trilby.local) by mail.libertyrms.com with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1HyXnm-0001jH-FP; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:42:42 -0400 Received: by trilby.local (Postfix, from userid 1019) id 3CEEE32998A; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:42:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:42:41 -0400 From: Andrew Sullivan To: Edward Lewis Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up Message-ID: <20070613184240.GD2012@afilias.info> Reply-To: Andrew Sullivan References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: andrew@ca.afilias.info X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9466e0365fc95844abaf7c3f15a05c7d On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 12:57:17PM -0400, Edward Lewis wrote: > > Answer A - document them. > Answer B - deprecate them. Answer AB: document _and_ deprecate. I'm serious. I know this is work, but I think we should write these down somewhere, and say they're deprecated and needn't be implemented. At least then someone writing a compliant system that gets one of these types in a query knows what it is supposed to be and that it can be ignored. Yes, I am volunteering. Do you have some pointers that I should go read, so that I don't have to start all your forensic work from scratch? A -- Andrew Sullivan 204-4141 Yonge Street Afilias Canada Toronto, Ontario Canada M2P 2A8 jabber: ajsaf@jabber.org +1 416 646 3304 x4110 -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Wed Jun 13 15:01:37 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyY65-000240-BZ; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:01:37 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyY61-00007M-Ut; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:01:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyXzu-000DM2-N4 for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:55:14 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [68.142.225.206] (helo=smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) by psg.com with smtp (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyXzj-000DK2-Cd for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:55:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 47179 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2007 18:55:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO connotech.com) (t2i6@rogers.com@209.148.165.15 with plain) by smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jun 2007 18:55:02 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: VSoVgbMVM1myZg7DMbtvLICWc4bkZWXYEdGpyUy38kl_aRqKhDyiXFpAupKQeMk5qQ-- Message-ID: <46703D90.8030404@connotech.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:55:12 -0400 From: Thierry Moreau User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edward Lewis CC: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0a7aa2e6e558383d84476dc338324fab Edward Lewis wrote: > Yet another non-technical bureaucratic thread... > > Looking at this URL: > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/dns-parameters > > the IANA has allocated a number of RR type codes that are not documented > in RFC documents. [...] > > [...] The question is > what should be done about these undocumented types? > > Answer A - document them. > Answer B - deprecate them. > > [...] > > Answer C - do nothing and hope no one cares. > > [...] > Many of these RR type codes would, if re-registered with draft-ietf-dnsext-2929bis, answer NO to the following IANA registration template question: Does the proposed RR TYPE require special handling within the DNS different from an Unknown RR TYPE or ignorable meta-TYPE? Thus, you may consider Answer D - identify those not requiring special implementation handling Regards, -- - Thierry Moreau CONNOTECH Experts-conseils inc. 9130 Place de Montgolfier Montreal, Qc Canada H2M 2A1 Tel.: (514)385-5691 Fax: (514)385-5900 web site: http://www.connotech.com e-mail: thierry.moreau@connotech.com -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Wed Jun 13 15:32:56 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyYaN-0003KB-W5; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:32:55 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyYaN-0008Ro-MK; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:32:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyYUb-000FRa-8g for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:26:57 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [66.92.146.160] (helo=ogud.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyYUQ-000FPr-AO for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:26:51 +0000 Received: from [10.31.32.65] (hlid.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l5DJPxpk075947; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:26:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7371C996-D675-46B8-A54C-2707957E7A61@mail-abuse.org> References: <7371C996-D675-46B8-A54C-2707957E7A61@mail-abuse.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:26:01 -0400 To: Douglas Otis From: Edward Lewis Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up Cc: Edward Lewis , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cab78e1e39c4b328567edb48482b6a69 At 11:43 -0700 6/13/07, Douglas Otis wrote: >Would this require a draft listing these items to assist IANA in making the >changes? More so than getting changes in IANA is the document saying that the types have no definition with respect to the names registered. It's not that these are unknown type codes - they have names. We should say that the type code, say, 32, isn't to be assumed to be NIMROD anymore. It could be, it might be, just don't count on it and don't sweat implementing it. What I want to defend against here is that some business contract says "implement a full DNS server" and the poor coders can't find the RDATA format for NIMROD. Neither the IETF nor IANA require/enforce compliance, it is in the hands of the contracts we run under. I see this has a potentially multi-step process. 1) Note that the types are meaningless and discourage anyone from *requiring* their implementation. 2) Request IANA revert the values to undefined and tell folks to rip the implementations of these types from their future releases and instead treat them as unknown types when seen on the wire. 3) Reusing the type values and tell folks to to add code to future releases to handle the type a certain way. I don't think we want to do step 2 now, much less step 3. I'm stating them just to give the contrast of what step 1 is. The document I have in mind ought not rule out anyone from using the types as they might already be doing, the document is strictly there to warn against requiring any implementation to do the types. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar Sarcasm doesn't scale. -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Wed Jun 13 15:33:03 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyYaV-0003NA-LC; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:33:03 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyYT5-0005pG-1c; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:25:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyYMH-000EpZ-M3 for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:18:21 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [66.92.146.160] (helo=ogud.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyYM4-000Eoo-EM for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:18:16 +0000 Received: from [10.31.32.65] (hlid.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l5DJHt6j075895; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:17:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20070613184240.GD2012@afilias.info> References: <20070613184240.GD2012@afilias.info> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:12:18 -0400 To: Andrew Sullivan From: Edward Lewis Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up Cc: Edward Lewis , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d0bdc596f8dd1c226c458f0b4df27a88 At 14:42 -0400 6/13/07, Andrew Sullivan wrote: >On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 12:57:17PM -0400, Edward Lewis wrote: >> >> Answer A - document them. >> Answer B - deprecate them. > >Answer AB: document _and_ deprecate. > >I'm serious. I know this is work, but I think we should write these >down somewhere, and say they're deprecated and needn't be implemented. >At least then someone writing a compliant system that gets one of >these types in a query knows what it is supposed to be and that it can >be ignored. > >Yes, I am volunteering. Do you have some pointers that I should go >read, so that I don't have to start all your forensic work from >scratch? Yeah I do. While thinking more about this, I realized that all we would need to do is list the values and the mnemonics and then say "just don't do it." So I agree on an answer AB. But there is one possible exception to outright deprecation of all the un-RFC'd types, the ATMA record. All but the ATMA died when their draft expired. The ATM one is defined in a document published external to the IETF. (But I get heartburn over that - the ATM Forum is where the document was originally published. The ATM Forum is no longer amongst the living and even it's web site is gone.) In talking to IANA on the side I noticed that they had cleaned up a lot of the references (there were a few types in 2005 that were RFC'd, like AAAA, that weren't documented as such and now are) but these remain: old NSAP-PTR 23 new NSAP-PTR 23 for domain name pointer, NSAP style [RFC1348] old EID 31 Endpoint Identifier [Patton] new EID 31 Endpoint Identifier [http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/nimrod/dns.txt] old NIMLOC 32 Nimrod Locator [Patton] new NIMLOC 32 Nimrod Locator [http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/nimrod/dns.txt] old ATMA 34 ATM Address [Dobrowski] new ATMA 34 ATM Address [http://www.mfaforum.org/ftp/pub/approved-specs/af-saa-0069.000.pdf] old SINK 40 SINK [Eastlake] new SINK 40 SINK [http://bgp.potaroo.net/ietf/all-ids/draft-eastlake-kitchen-sink-02.txt] The first may be just an editor's choice (see the page for what I mean), the next two and last are types that were not quite formed. The ATMA is the one defined elsewhere. All URLs work as of today. 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From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Wed Jun 13 20:56:45 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hyddl-0000Nc-4Y; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:56:45 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hyddj-0007Wp-OA; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:56:45 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HydOv-0006qZ-Lh for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:41:25 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [204.152.184.167] (helo=mx.isc.org) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HydOk-0006q9-6v for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:41:20 +0000 Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb::5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "farside.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by mx.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5562C11407A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:41:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost.isc.org [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "drugs.dv.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9BFE6098 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:41:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l5E0difS021981; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:39:45 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from marka@drugs.dv.isc.org) Message-Id: <200706140039.l5E0difS021981@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: Edward Lewis Cc: Andrew Sullivan , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org From: Mark Andrews Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:12:18 -0400." Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:39:44 +1000 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3002fc2e661cd7f114cb6bae92fe88f1 > At 14:42 -0400 6/13/07, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > >On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 12:57:17PM -0400, Edward Lewis wrote: > >> > >> Answer A - document them. > >> Answer B - deprecate them. > > > >Answer AB: document _and_ deprecate. > > > >I'm serious. I know this is work, but I think we should write these > >down somewhere, and say they're deprecated and needn't be implemented. > >At least then someone writing a compliant system that gets one of > >these types in a query knows what it is supposed to be and that it can > >be ignored. > > > >Yes, I am volunteering. Do you have some pointers that I should go > >read, so that I don't have to start all your forensic work from > >scratch? > > Yeah I do. While thinking more about this, I realized that all we > would need to do is list the values and the mnemonics and then say > "just don't do it." So I agree on an answer AB. > > But there is one possible exception to outright deprecation of all > the un-RFC'd types, the ATMA record. All but the ATMA died when > their draft expired. The ATM one is defined in a document published > external to the IETF. (But I get heartburn over that - the ATM Forum > is where the document was originally published. The ATM Forum is no > longer amongst the living and even it's web site is gone.) > > In talking to IANA on the side I noticed that they had cleaned up a > lot of the references (there were a few types in 2005 that were > RFC'd, like AAAA, that weren't documented as such and now are) but > these remain: > > old NSAP-PTR 23 > new NSAP-PTR 23 for domain name pointer, NSAP style [RFC1348] > > old EID 31 Endpoint Identifier [Patton] > new EID 31 Endpoint Identifier > [http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/nimrod/dns.txt] > > old NIMLOC 32 Nimrod Locator [Patton] > new NIMLOC 32 Nimrod Locator > [http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/nimrod/dns.txt] > > old ATMA 34 ATM Address [Dobrowski] > new ATMA 34 ATM Address > [http://www.mfaforum.org/ftp/pub/approved-specs/af-saa-0069.000.pdf] > > old SINK 40 SINK [Eastlake] > new SINK 40 SINK > [http://bgp.potaroo.net/ietf/all-ids/draft-eastlake-kitchen-sink-02.txt] > > The first may be just an editor's choice (see the page for what I > mean), the next two and last are types that were not quite formed. > The ATMA is the one defined elsewhere. All URLs work as of today. Of the list above BIND 9 only implements NSAP-PTR. ATM looks like it is straight forward to implement. > What I haven't considered are RFC'd types that are dead too - because > I am not looking at a bureaucratic cleansing, more at "what do we > need to leave for new implementors." > > -- > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 > NeuStar > > Sarcasm doesn't scale. > > -- > to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with > the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. > archive: -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Wed Jun 13 22:33:29 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hyf9N-00036s-LA; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:33:29 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyYRU-0005Df-Qe; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:24:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyYMP-000Epy-Hu for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:18:29 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [66.92.146.160] (helo=ogud.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyYME-000EpM-Df for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:18:24 +0000 Received: from [10.31.32.65] (hlid.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l5DJHt6l075895; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:18:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20070613190352.GA9134@vacation.karoshi.com.> References: <20070613190352.GA9134@vacation.karoshi.com.> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:16:26 -0400 To: bmanning@karoshi.com From: Edward Lewis Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up Cc: Edward Lewis , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ea4ac80f790299f943f0a53be7e1a21a At 19:03 +0000 6/13/07, bmanning@karoshi.com wrote: >On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 12:57:17PM -0400, Edward Lewis wrote: >> (Yes, Bill, I know there is probably somewhere someone using a BIND >> 3.12.34s05May1983 version out there that has been modified to use >> SINK and thinks that if we deprecate the number we will cause their >> island economy to go belly up.) > > SINK came much later. I knew you'd say that, which is why I added "has been modified to" in the paragraph! > the sad part about RFC's is that they are fixed in time. > I do note that the IANA has tweeked the registry... UID/GID > are now [IANA-reserved] Works for me. ;) -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar Sarcasm doesn't scale. -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Wed Jun 13 23:33:40 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hyg5c-0001eo-86; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:33:40 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hyg5b-0006Wj-Ti; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:33:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hyfy9-000Eyl-Jt for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 03:25:57 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [66.92.146.160] (helo=ogud.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hyfxy-000Exj-CK for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 03:25:52 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (hlid.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l5E3PdNs077958; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:25:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200706140039.l5E0difS021981@drugs.dv.isc.org> References: <200706140039.l5E0difS021981@drugs.dv.isc.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:25:37 -0400 To: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org From: Edward Lewis Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up Cc: Edward Lewis Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 02ec665d00de228c50c93ed6b5e4fc1a At 10:39 +1000 6/14/07, Mark Andrews wrote: > Of the list above BIND 9 only implements NSAP-PTR. > ATM looks like it is straight forward to implement. The question isn't how easy they are to implement. It's whether they should be defined in such a way that it is trivial to find the specification. For ATMA, I have kept my eye on that reference for years, ever since I wrote DNSSEC code in the late 90's. It's a no-brainer, if you have the document. Back then, it was on the ATM Forum's web site, I found it via a MSN technical documents page that I probably got to via Altavista or some such antique search engine. When the ATM Forum disbanded I learned that web site was transferred to the MFA Forum. Eventually the MFA Forum retired the ATM Forum web site and moved the document to their public store. Today I tried to contact the IANA-listed mail address for the document. The host of the mail address is no longer in DNS. I was hoping to ask the listed contact person whether the record was still in use. I tried to Google for the contact while writing this and learned that Amazon is selling a book by him (or someone with the same name and a lot of other intangible similarities) and that he's a CTO of some company. Googling for that company I see it was merged into another in 2001. Umm, maybe you get the idea that it's a bit hard to chase down the references. Maybe he's now george.dobrowski@conexant.com from a March 2006 attendee list on the web. I've been concerned that we may lose this document at some point. Not that the MFA Forum would have a reason to hide it or yank it, it might just be thrown out as obsoleted trash someday. It's not trivial to implement what you can't get the specification for. For the other records, I am sure they are also trivial to implement, I recall EID being simple. But these never for adopted by the IETF (I don't know why). Should we take this as an implicit statement that those type values ought to be "reserved by IANA?" I think it is a no-brainer that we document the types we know and "control" (in the sense of an IETF action) that are dead but have type values. The ATMA is a weird case - it never was reviewed by the IETF, not as far as I can find. So we can't really pass judgement on it. Still it would be nice to know that there is a specification for it, where it is, and if it is ever deprecated by the owning organization that we make a note of that in the IANA registry for DNS parameters. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar Sarcasm doesn't scale. -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From ryug@wk.net Wed Jun 13 23:55:34 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HygQo-0002xP-DH for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:55:34 -0400 Received: from [61.47.15.111] (helo=rbqg) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HygQj-0005mS-KK for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:55:34 -0400 Received: from [101.74.155.55] (helo=wkhw) by rbqg with smtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) id 1I!gUK-0003Oo-TR; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:59:12 +0700 Message-ID: <4670BC24.3010104@wk.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:55:16 +0700 From: Vivien A. 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From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 14 00:17:20 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hygls-0001UG-Aq; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:17:20 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hyglq-0005Am-Rk; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:17:20 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hygdr-000HG6-7l for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 04:09:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [204.152.184.138] (helo=ntp2.ntp.isc.org) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hygdg-000HEy-2Z for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 04:08:57 +0000 Received: from 65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net (65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net [65.86.158.146]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ntp2.ntp.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1516039910; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 04:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayer@gis.net) Received: from cust-63-209-225-49.bos-dynamic.gis.net ([63.209.225.49] helo=[10.10.10.100]) by 65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net with esmtpsa (SSL 3.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1HygdW-0006Tg-5Z; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:08:42 -0400 Message-ID: <4670BF47.2030208@gis.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:08:39 -0400 From: Danny Mayer Reply-To: mayer@gis.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edward Lewis Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-kostecke.net-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-kostecke.net-MailScanner-From: mayer@gis.net Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 00e94c813bef7832af255170dca19e36 Edward Lewis wrote: > Yet another non-technical bureaucratic thread... > > Looking at this URL: > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/dns-parameters > > the IANA has allocated a number of RR type codes that are not documented > in RFC documents. I don't really care much about the procedural > problem, but imagine someone trying to implement a DNS element without > looking at the BIND source code. > > I would point an implementer to the IANA pages to see what, for > instance, RTYPE codes have been defined. I would expect that the IANA > registry would then identify the document describing the type. The URL > above has a bunch of lame or weak pointers (to some of the types) and I > have been trying to get IANA to change that (going back a few years now). > > That's not the question or matter for this group though. The question is > what should be done about these undocumented types? > > Answer A - document them. > Answer B - deprecate them. > > Answer A's downside is that this would mean work. I can find the last > known drafts for many of them, but finding out why they died/expired is > rather hard. The IETF is notorious for not documenting the rationale > for disposing of ideas. (I tried to do this recently for ULA-Central > and wound up having to send mail to the editors, whose email's in the > last draft still fortunately worked.) > > Besides the threat of having to do work, something I try to avoid > personally, the bigger problem would be that if we did publish an RFC > containing the definition of these types, like SINK, EID, NIMROD, folks > might take it that we have approved of these types. I have nothing > against the types - it's just that they are ideas that have been killed > and have seemingly successfully have stayed dead and buried. > > But if you have to write compliant software...ok, what's compliant? I'll > leave that to your imagination. > > Answer B's downside is that we don't like to do garbage management in > the IETF. The number one reason for not progressing ideas is that we > are afraid we'd have to cull them later on, and we don't do that. (Yes, > Bill, I know there is probably somewhere someone using a BIND > 3.12.34s05May1983 version out there that has been modified to use SINK > and thinks that if we deprecate the number we will cause their island > economy to go belly up.) > > As both of these Answers have down sides, I'll propose this: > > Answer C - do nothing and hope no one cares. > > I bet that is the answer that will win out here. The downside is that > we will continue to have a gray area of information about the DNS > protocol. When others read up on the DNS and get confused, we won't be > able to say "RTFM" - we'll have to say "sorry, my bad." > > Is there any desire to try to clean up what is in the IANA registry? > Other than at least getting updated references? Do we want to mark the > undocumented types as deprecated, not to be implemented? NIMROD, EID - > does Patton's BBN account still work? ;) > Weren't other types like MAILA, MD, MF and WKS deprecated somewhere? I can't find a document on it. If so then it's been done before and the same path can be followed. Danny Danny -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 14 02:37:57 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hyixx-00058y-1n; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 02:37:57 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hyixw-0001pN-Jd; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 02:37:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyiqS-000OGj-7E for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 06:30:12 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [204.152.184.167] (helo=mx.isc.org) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyiqF-000OEQ-02 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 06:30:06 +0000 Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb::5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "farside.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by mx.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F950114027 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 06:29:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost.isc.org [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "drugs.dv.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913E2E6095 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 06:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l5E6TngO015539; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:29:51 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from marka@drugs.dv.isc.org) Message-Id: <200706140629.l5E6TngO015539@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: Edward Lewis Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org From: Mark Andrews Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:25:37 -0400." Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:29:49 +1000 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: bdc523f9a54890b8a30dd6fd53d5d024 > At 10:39 +1000 6/14/07, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > Of the list above BIND 9 only implements NSAP-PTR. > > ATM looks like it is straight forward to implement. > > The question isn't how easy they are to implement. It's whether they > should be defined in such a way that it is trivial to find the > specification. I think the best solution for ATM would be for the IETF Trust to get permission to hold and distribute the pdf. > For ATMA, I have kept my eye on that reference for years, ever since > I wrote DNSSEC code in the late 90's. It's a no-brainer, if you have > the document. Back then, it was on the ATM Forum's web site, I found > it via a MSN technical documents page that I probably got to via > Altavista or some such antique search engine. > > When the ATM Forum disbanded I learned that web site was transferred > to the MFA Forum. Eventually the MFA Forum retired the ATM Forum web > site and moved the document to their public store. > > Today I tried to contact the IANA-listed mail address for the > document. The host of the mail address is no longer in DNS. I was > hoping to ask the listed contact person whether the record was still > in use. > > I tried to Google for the contact while writing this and learned that > Amazon is selling a book by him (or someone with the same name and a > lot of other intangible similarities) and that he's a CTO of some > company. Googling for that company I see it was merged into another > in 2001. Umm, maybe you get the idea that it's a bit hard to chase > down the references. Maybe he's now george.dobrowski@conexant.com > from a March 2006 attendee list on the web. > > I've been concerned that we may lose this document at some point. > Not that the MFA Forum would have a reason to hide it or yank it, it > might just be thrown out as obsoleted trash someday. It's not trivial > to implement what you can't get the specification for. > > For the other records, I am sure they are also trivial to implement, > I recall EID being simple. But these never for adopted by the IETF > (I don't know why). Should we take this as an implicit statement > that those type values ought to be "reserved by IANA?" I think it is > a no-brainer that we document the types we know and "control" (in the > sense of an IETF action) that are dead but have type values. > > The ATMA is a weird case - it never was reviewed by the IETF, not as > far as I can find. So we can't really pass judgement on it. Still > it would be nice to know that there is a specification for it, where > it is, and if it is ever deprecated by the owning organization that > we make a note of that in the IANA registry for DNS parameters. The reverse naming scheme for ATM seems to be fundementally broken. It requires too much pre knowledge to construct the name. You should be able to take the address and be able to constuct a appropriate name without having to have a set of country code values to know what to put into which label. > -- > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 > NeuStar > > Sarcasm doesn't scale. > > -- > to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with > the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. > archive: -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From kfn@kc.rr.com Thu Jun 14 02:57:09 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyjGX-0001SX-GE for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 02:57:09 -0400 Received: from [72.54.221.73] (helo=sdzz) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyjGX-0001wJ-2q for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 02:57:09 -0400 Received: from nscnp ([34.185.235.136]) by sdzz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:57:04 -0600 Message-ID: <4670E6C0.1030804@kc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:57:04 -0600 From: Ed Groves User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org Subject: cleanup helmet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 4.3 (++++) X-Scan-Signature: a8a20a483a84f747e56475e290ee868e CAON UP 45% In The Last Week! Chan-On International Inc. Symbol: CAON Close: $0.80 UP CAON continues to climb daily. Up 45% in the last 7 days as investors are excited about this company's new direction. Read the releases, consider the potential and get on CAON firs thing Thursday! Making sure we always strip directory path from the file name if user specified full path for the policy file in the "Output file name" input field in the "Compiler" tab of firewall object dialog. We plan to run public beta for a few months and release final version in October. New option has been added to the TCP Service object, called "established". A bug that prevented user from creating a rule set branch inside another branch has been fixed. This bug report in fact reported several problems. This was one of the most requested features on the list for a very long time. New function to compare two data files and find conflicting objects has been added. Checking "Test mode" checkbox in the installer options dialog should enable widgets that configure automatic reboot timeout. Confirmation dialog that is shown when user tries to delete an object also shows all groups and rules that use it. POSTROUTING chain of the mangle table, as well as its FORWARD and OUTPUT chains, work before corresponding chains of the nat table. Ability to search for objects using regular expressions matching their names or attributes has been added. Conflicting objects have the same internal ID but different attributes. html , rerouting happens after OUTPUT hook but before POSTROUTING hook. Finally beta testing is over and the release is out. For PF it is translated into queue; compiler for ipfw can use pipe, queue or divert depending on how the action is configured by the administrator in the GUI. igmp access lists are not parsed. We still have quite a bit of work to do though, particularly localization has only began. This eliminates duplicates such as the same rule in PREROUTING and INPUT chains. Both installers were updated however to improve support for the automatic roll-back feature in case you lose connect with the firewall or the router because of an error in the policy. Packages are available for download on our SourceForge downloads page. Since router ACLs have no state, all rules should be created in the policy pretty much like you do it on the router, including rules that permit reply packets. The GUI got confused when user enter full path to the policy file in the "Output file name" input field in the "Compiler" tab of firewall object dialog. For PF it is translated into queue; compiler for ipfw can use pipe, queue or divert depending on how the action is configured by the administrator in the GUI. Affected platforms are PF and ipfilter because normally for these platforms compiler generates two files. in case when importer fails to parse some part of the iptables-save file, corresponding policy rule is colored red and appropriate diagnostic message added to its comment. This is especially convenient as it allows one to inspect the rules after failed compilation while still having compiler error on screen. Compiler for iptables ignored flag 'disabled' on rules in a branch. The user can create policy branches within other branches. Because of the huge variety of iptables modules, Importer can only interpret basic iptables configuration and a subset of modules. This bug report in fact reported several problems. This operation does not find objects present in one file but not in the other, such objects present no problem for merge or import operations. It works on target platforms that provide suitable syntax and allow control to return to the higher level rule set if the branch can not make final decision about the packet. Support for IP option "lsrr" has been added in compiler for ipfilter. installOptionsDialog was too large and did not fit on some laptop screens. This is an empty action that does not affect packet flow through the firewall but can be used in combination with "logging" option to log the packet. Since router ACLs have no state, all rules should be created in the policy pretty much like you do it on the router, including rules that permit reply packets. The problem must be corrected manually. html , rerouting happens after OUTPUT hook but before POSTROUTING hook. It is impossible to mix such rules with terminating and non-termninating behavior. Unrecognized targets and converted to branching rules, where the name of the target becomes the name of the branch. DNSName: This object resolves a host name to the IP address using DNS. Instead, this release adds two major new features: support for Cisco IOS access lists and a framework to import existing firewall or router configuration. This means emulation can be turned on and off for all rules that might require it at once. Ability to search for objects using regular expressions matching their names or attributes has been added. Firewall object is placed in "Source" for rules with chain OUTPUT. 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owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 155726d2f5fe5eb5c40a9f079fd9e841 --============_-1030297617==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" (Answers to Bill's, Danny's, and Mark's replies.) At 4:42 +0000 6/14/07, bmanning@karoshi.com wrote: >On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 12:08:39AM -0400, Danny Mayer wrote: (Bill) > So Ed is concerned that the IANA registry points to documents > and people who (might) change/move over time and the original > reference will be lost ... the IANA has a dangling pointer. > > Is this the jist of your concern Ed? Not exactly. Although I have been labelled anal retentive [1] about keeping things in order, I agree that would be too much work. The jist of mu concern is ... if I were to walk off the street and try to write up a DNS protocol element (server, stub, etc.) can I find all of the documentation to create a compliant hunk of code. IANA's role, as registry of protocol parameters, is that it is the authority on things like the standardized RR types - much like ARIN will let you know who is responsible for an IP address or my employer would let you know who is responsible for a name registered with us. IANA's registrations ought to be kept up to date as much as ARIN's. With the case of ARIN, we expect the registrants to do this work, not the registry and I think it is fair to expect the same with IANA. (That is why I am pressing this within the DNSEXT working group and not throwing flames at IANA.) So, the job is on us to clean this up and hand the work to IANA. > Back in the day, I understood the IANA took the stance that > they would document assignments but it was not in their charter > to hold copies of the defining documents... that was the role of > the hosting organization, be it IETF, ITU, ATMF, BBN, MIT, etc. > If the hosting org chose to let the reference document lapse, > so be it. I agree with that, IANA is a registry, not the Library of the Internet. IANA is also not responsible to make sure that the entries in the registries they run are accurate, well-thought ought, etc. My recent spate of email isn't about cleaning up IANA, it's making sure that a person can come in and find the resources to create an interoperable implementation without having to read BIND's source code or buy more beer for any one of us that do know the protocol. Ok, so my main motivation is to lose weight, okay? I admit it, I need to lose a few fat cells. This really came from my medical care professional, still not from my tendency to be anal retentive. (Danny) >> Weren't other types like MAILA, MD, MF and WKS deprecated somewhere? I >> can't find a document on it. If so then it's been done before and the >> same path can be followed. Yeah, I've heard the same rumor. ;) I've also been asked for a reference document on "forward zones" and other such (Loch) Nessie[2]-like creatures of the DNS protocol. (They are implementation specific configuration elements, not protocol standards.) In recent years I have come to be surprised how little (percentage wise) of the DNS protocol is really in a document, instead residing in our brains. 'Course, it is good for job security. But once we all retire, will the next generation of engineers be able to keep it up? > There may be a handful of people who -KNOW- why these RR codes were > created. The documentation for their creation is, to my knowledge, > nonexistant. Now the IANA has flagged the codes as [IANA-reserved], > but there is no data on how they got there, other than hearsay. Ahh, Bill, perfect timing. That's exactly the condition I want to reverse. There's no reason not to document something and say here's how it is now. (Kinda like the testament of the "Church of What's Happening Now.[3]") This handful of people no doubt will want to go away and no longer be bothered with their youthful indiscretions. Just because something came and left tracks doesn't mean we have to preserve it, we should document that these things are no longer in the mainstream. It's alright to leave them reserved for some unknown, undocumented reason but let's put something down in writing that the class of 2173 engineers of La Univeridad del San Manning can use to reclaim the numbers when needed to allocate the VIXIE resource record. By then, I'm sure there won't be one computer still around on the face of Mars still using the MB record. At 16:29 +1000 6/14/07, Mark Andrews wrote: > > I think the best solution for ATM would be for the IETF > Trust to get permission to hold and distribute the pdf. Something to consider. Who is the contact for that request? Ray Palletier? [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_retentive [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nessie [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_Wilson, "His characters included Reverend Leroy, pastor of the Church of What's Happening Now" -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar Sarcasm doesn't scale. --============_-1030297617==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: IANA type code registration clean up
(Answers to Bill's, Danny's, and Mark's replies.)

At 4:42 +0000 6/14/07, bmanning@karoshi.com wrote:
>On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 12:08:39AM -0400, Danny Mayer wrote:

(Bill)
>       So Ed is concerned that the IANA registry points to documents
>  and people who (might) change/move over time and the original
>  reference will be lost ... the IANA has a dangling pointer.
>
>       Is this the jist of your concern Ed?

Not exactly.  Although I have been labelled anal retentive [1] about keeping things in order, I agree that would be too much work.  The jist of mu concern is ... if I were to walk off the street and try to write up a DNS protocol element (server, stub, etc.) can I find all of the documentation to create a compliant hunk of code.

IANA's role, as registry of protocol parameters, is that it is the authority on things like the standardized RR types - much like ARIN will let you know who is responsible for an IP address or my employer would let you know who is responsible for a name registered with us.

IANA's registrations ought to be kept up to date as much as ARIN's.  With the case of ARIN, we expect the registrants to do this work, not the registry and I think it is fair to expect the same with IANA.  (That is why I am pressing this within the DNSEXT working group and not throwing flames at IANA.)

So, the job is on us to clean this up and hand the work to IANA.

>       Back in the day, I understood the IANA took the stance that
>    they would document assignments but it was not in their charter
>        to hold copies of the defining documents... that was the role of
>       the hosting organization, be it IETF, ITU, ATMF, BBN, MIT, etc.
>        If the hosting org chose to let the reference document lapse,
>       so be it.

I agree with that, IANA is a registry, not the Library of the Internet.  IANA is also not responsible to make sure that the entries in the registries they run are accurate, well-thought ought, etc.

My recent spate of email isn't about cleaning up IANA, it's making sure that a person can come in and find the resources to create an interoperable implementation without having to read BIND's source code or buy more beer for any one of us that do know the protocol.

Ok, so my main motivation is to lose weight, okay?  I admit it, I need to lose a few fat cells.  This really came from my medical care professional, still not from my tendency to be anal retentive.

(Danny)
>> Weren't other types like MAILA, MD, MF and WKS deprecated somewhere? I
>> can't find a document on it. If so then it's been done before and the
>> same path can be followed.
Yeah, I've heard the same rumor. ;)  I've also been asked for a reference document on "forward zones" and other such (Loch) Nessie[2]-like creatures of the DNS protocol.  (They are implementation specific configuration elements, not protocol standards.)  In recent years I have come to be surprised how little (percentage wise) of the DNS protocol is really in a document, instead residing in our brains.  'Course, it is good for job security.

But once we all retire, will the next generation of engineers be able to keep it up?

>       There may be a handful of people who -KNOW- why these RR codes were
>    created.  The documentation for their creation is, to my knowledge,
>    nonexistant.  Now the IANA has flagged the codes as [IANA-reserved],
>       but there is no data on how they got there, other than hearsay.

Ahh, Bill, perfect timing.  That's exactly the condition I want to reverse.  There's no reason not to document something and say here's how it is now.  (Kinda like the testament of the "Church of What's Happening Now.[3]")  This handful of people no doubt will want to go away and no longer be bothered with their youthful indiscretions.

Just because something came and left tracks doesn't mean we have to preserve it, we should document that these things are no longer in the mainstream.  It's alright to leave them reserved for some unknown, undocumented reason but let's put something down in writing that the class of 2173 engineers of La Univeridad del San Manning can use to reclaim the numbers when needed to allocate the VIXIE resource record.  By then, I'm sure there won't be one computer still around on the face of Mars still using the MB record.

At 16:29 +1000 6/14/07, Mark Andrews wrote:
>
>      I think the best solution for ATM would be for the IETF
>       Trust to get permission to hold and distribute the pdf.

Something to consider.  Who is the contact for that request?  Ray Palletier?


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_retentive
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nessie
[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_Wilson, "His characters included Reverend Leroy, pastor of the Church of What=B9s Happening Now"
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<20070613184240.GD2012@afilias.info> References: <20070613184240.GD2012@afilias.info> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:00:30 -0400 To: Andrew Sullivan From: Edward Lewis Subject: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up Cc: Edward Lewis , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7aafa0432175920a4b3e118e16c5cb64 At 14:42 -0400 6/13/07, Andrew Sullivan wrote: >Yes, I am volunteering. Do you have some pointers that I should go Oh, and I heard that... First steps before trying to cut English is to agree on what types need a few words and what to say. Here are the type values that I think don't quite add up. Perhaps there are more - I was merely looking to see if there were documents that support the general knowledge of the type. When I say IANA should do something or doesn't list something, I am referring to the dns-parameters web page. 11 - WKS is widely rumored to be dead, but I can't find a document to back that up. (I suppose other types are as dead, but no documentation.) 14 - IANA should mark this as EXPERIMENTAL as per 1035. 16 and 17 - these are the two types in RFC 1002 that conflict with the TXT and the RP types. 23 - NSAP-PTR is blank, presumably that is meant as a "ditto" to the previous line. 31 and 32 - EID and NIMLOC have no document to define them. 34 - IANA's reference is an email address that is out of date. 38 - IANA doesn't list 3363 which moved A6 to experimental. 40 - SINK has no defining document listed. 100-103 - no explanation why these are IANA reserved are documented. I am sure we can consider other types dead or in a vegetative state, like X25, but my goal here is just to make sure that if you are told to implement a DNS protocol speaking element, you have access to a complete specification, not necessarily a sensible specification. I'm sure that the "problems" with types 14, 23, and 38 are just editorial moves needed on the web page. I am only "excited" about the conflicting definitions of types 16 and 17 because the types that we don't recognize are defined in a document that has attained "STD" status. Are there other types people would like to see treated? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar Sarcasm doesn't scale. -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From qiyhmvlrgaqy@blcc.com Thu Jun 14 12:12:07 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hyrvb-0000F8-Md; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:12:07 -0400 Received: from p5487ceee.dip.t-dialin.net ([84.135.206.238]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyrtN-0006lG-Vx; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:12:07 -0400 Received: from 64.18.4.11 (HELO blcc.com.mail2.psmtp.com) by ietf.org with esmtp (M2CFO25ZRB THL12N) id V3MMTK-KJ1CNT-XS for disys.com@ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:10:04 -0100 Message-ID: <01c7ae9e$78057d80$eece8754@qiyhmvlrgaqy> From: "Walter Winters" To: Subject: For Disys Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:10:04 -0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C7AEAF.3B8FD420" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Spam-Score: 3.7 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: 9ef34681c09171229a7cb90dad7dd8e0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C7AEAF.3B8FD420 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0010_01C7AEAF.3B8FD420" ------=_NextPart_001_0010_01C7AEAF.3B8FD420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable to raise like Murphy sun-drenched farm. 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User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Macintosh/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Reid CC: Edward Lewis , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up References: <20070613184240.GD2012@afilias.info> <74C00A63-1286-4D2C-8164-C467AC69EF3C@rfc1035.com> In-Reply-To: <74C00A63-1286-4D2C-8164-C467AC69EF3C@rfc1035.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040800030104010106020906" Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7da5a831c477fb6ef97f379a05fb683c This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040800030104010106020906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim Reid wrote: > Ed, if you're going to clean out the RR type code stable, how about > declaring all codes that don't have documentation as dead or retired? > Presumably if someone is still using such codes they would scream about > their impending termination. And if that was to happen, they could then > become the stuckees who eat their own dog food and document those type > codes. > Perhaps this is being naive. I think it is a little naive, in that I think that the likelihood that the user of one of these types will be paying attention to what this WG does is quite low. However, as long as we don't assign new types to the old numbers, these potential stuckees are free to pipe up at any time in the future, and, in the mean time, the rest of us don't have to waste time trying to implement these types. Or even find their specifications. 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(helo=[10.60.98.30]) by 65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net with esmtpsa (SSL 3.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1Hysmw-00056F-OD; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:07:14 -0400 Message-ID: <467175A3.8090804@gis.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:06:43 -0400 From: Danny Mayer Reply-To: mayer@gis.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bmanning@karoshi.com Cc: Edward Lewis , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up References: <4670BF47.2030208@gis.net> <20070614044211.GA12450@vacation.karoshi.com.> In-Reply-To: <20070614044211.GA12450@vacation.karoshi.com.> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-kostecke.net-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-kostecke.net-MailScanner-From: mayer@gis.net Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ea4ac80f790299f943f0a53be7e1a21a bmanning@karoshi.com wrote: >> Weren't other types like MAILA, MD, MF and WKS deprecated somewhere? I >> can't find a document on it. If so then it's been done before and the >> same path can be followed. > > > wrt deprication, sure, it can be done. but that step is a different > activity than the concerns listed above. Even if a DNS attribute is > depricated, the source document that caused its creation may be > in doubt. ... witness UID and GID. > > There may be a handful of people who -KNOW- why these RR codes were > created. The documentation for their creation is, to my knowledge, > nonexistant. Now the IANA has flagged the codes as [IANA-reserved], > but there is no data on how they got there, other than hearsay. Yes but if you have deprecation documents you can at least say that they don't need to be implemented and if you can find the documents you can reference them and if not you can say that they could not be found. You don't need to implement something that's been deprecated as long as there's a document saying so. You can drag a dead horse to water, but how do you get it to drink? Danny -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 14 13:25:21 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hyt4T-0000KS-UY; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:25:21 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hyt4S-0004cN-Kk; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:25:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyszM-000AY9-Dq for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:20:04 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [192.0.34.14] (helo=smtp01.icann.org) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hysz8-000AWI-TQ for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:19:58 +0000 Received: from terminus.local (c-24-6-153-109.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.153.109]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp01.icann.org (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l5EHJlJj022103 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:19:48 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by terminus.local (PGP Universal service); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:19:46 -0700 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by terminus.local on Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:19:46 -0700 In-Reply-To: <74C00A63-1286-4D2C-8164-C467AC69EF3C@rfc1035.com> References: <20070613184240.GD2012@afilias.info> <74C00A63-1286-4D2C-8164-C467AC69EF3C@rfc1035.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Message-Id: <192608DF-19D0-4E4E-A49A-30131DCC0FEF@icann.org> Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org From: David Conrad Subject: Re: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:19:43 -0700 To: Jim Reid X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08170828343bcf1325e4a0fb4584481c > Ed, if you're going to clean out the RR type code stable, how about > declaring all codes that don't have documentation as dead or > retired? Presumably if someone is still using such codes they would > scream about their impending termination. How would they know? Rgds, -drc -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 14 14:03:49 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hytfh-0007ZL-1T; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:03:49 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hytfg-0006Bp-Jn; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:03:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HytVw-000D53-9r for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:53:44 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [66.92.146.160] (helo=ogud.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HytVl-000D4F-0v for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:53:38 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (hlid.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l5EHrJNx082392; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:53:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20070614171957.GC16859@vacation.karoshi.com.> References: <4670BF47.2030208@gis.net> <20070614044211.GA12450@vacation.karoshi.com.> <467175A3.8090804@gis.net> <20070614171957.GC16859@vacation.karoshi.com.> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:43:23 -0400 To: bmanning@karoshi.com From: Edward Lewis Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up Cc: Danny Mayer , bmanning@karoshi.com, Edward Lewis , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0a7aa2e6e558383d84476dc338324fab At 17:19 +0000 6/14/07, bmanning@karoshi.com wrote: >On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 01:06:43PM -0400, Danny Mayer wrote: >> bmanning@karoshi.com wrote: >> >> Weren't other types like MAILA, MD, MF and WKS deprecated somewhere? I >> >> can't find a document on it. If so then it's been done before and the >> >> same path can be followed. I looked up these this morning. MD and MF are marked as obsolete in RFC 1035. IANA has that correctly recorded, so I consider those types "handled." I.e., I have no problem seeing them listed and am happy that I can find a reference that tells me whether I ought to code them up or not, and if so, how to. WKS is something that seems to be a fat rumor. I think that if it is a bad idea, someone owes a document to say that just for posterity and then include an IANA action to mark the registration of that code as obsolete. MAILA is also listed as obsolete in RFC 1035 (see section 3.2.3). To my surprise, most of the early registrations are clean. Of the first 30, only the WKS is what amounts to an "issue". Others are look like registration edits. It's the newer stuff that gets sloppy. >> > wrt deprication, sure, it can be done. but that step is a different >> > activity than the concerns listed above. Even if a DNS attribute is >> > depricated, the source document that caused its creation may be >> > in doubt. ... witness UID and GID. Deprecation is different from just fixing the registrations. If someone wants to keep using NXT, so be it. It ain't gonna hurt no one. But I don't want some hapless college junior to miss out on a night drinking at the local pub because he's wasting time testing out the NXT code in his project. > (and as the designer/original implementor of NSAP-PTR, while there > is no document deprecating it, there was near universal WG agreement > that it was superfulous (nearly everything NSAP-PTR did can be done w/ > PTR and w/ the IANA's permission, we "declared" it deprecated... which > is why you don't see AAAA-PTR today.. )** Well, then some WG owes the IETF a document. That's a different issue than what I set out to do. But if we want to roll in a "deprecate anything Bill has ever defined" I could see that being a benefit. Uh, ;). -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar Sarcasm doesn't scale. -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 14 14:19:16 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hytue-0007s3-NP; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:19:16 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hytud-0001xK-9p; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:19:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HytpD-000EPL-4n for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:13:39 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [216.82.250.131] (helo=mail128.messagelabs.com) by psg.com with smtp (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hytp1-000EOa-QH for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:13:33 +0000 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: Donald.Eastlake@motorola.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-128.messagelabs.com!1181844805!20486996!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.12.11; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [129.188.136.9] Received: (qmail 9756 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2007 18:13:25 -0000 Received: from ftpbox.mot.com (HELO ftpbox.mot.com) (129.188.136.9) by server-4.tower-128.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 14 Jun 2007 18:13:25 -0000 Received: from az33exr02.mot.com ([10.64.251.232]) by ftpbox.mot.com (8.12.11/Motorola) with ESMTP id l5EIDPZq000666 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:13:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from az10vts03 (az10vts03.mot.com [10.64.251.244]) by az33exr02.mot.com (8.13.1/Vontu) with SMTP id l5EIDOGb009379 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:13:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from de01exm64.ds.mot.com (de01exm64.am.mot.com [10.176.8.15]) by az33exr02.mot.com (8.13.1/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l5EIDNmm009368 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:13:23 -0500 (CDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: IANA type code registration clean up Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:13:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3870C46029D1F945B1472F170D2D979002AC2169@de01exm64.ds.mot.com> In-Reply-To: <467175A3.8090804@gis.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: IANA type code registration clean up thread-index: AceuqTlRYLXFzWGtQyquRQfIF30e+wABWWTQ References: <4670BF47.2030208@gis.net> <20070614044211.GA12450@vacation.karoshi.com.> <467175A3.8090804@gis.net> From: "Eastlake III Donald-LDE008" To: X-Vontu: Pass Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f607d15ccc2bc4eaf3ade8ffa8af02a0 We're not short of RR codes so there is no reason to recycle them for the foreseeable future. It seems to me that what is called for is a simple RFC. For each of the handful of RR codes in question, the RFC should presumably say that the code is reserved, say whether or not the use is deprecated, say a few words about this history of the RR, and possibly point to or even incorporate documentation for the RR. As the proud author of the Kitchen SINK RR, I'd be happy to help. Donald -----Original Message----- From: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Danny Mayer Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 1:07 PM To: bmanning@karoshi.com Cc: Edward Lewis; namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up bmanning@karoshi.com wrote: >> Weren't other types like MAILA, MD, MF and WKS deprecated somewhere? I >> can't find a document on it. If so then it's been done before and the >> same path can be followed. >=20 >=20 > wrt deprication, sure, it can be done. but that step is a different > activity than the concerns listed above. Even if a DNS attribute is > depricated, the source document that caused its creation may be > in doubt. ... witness UID and GID. =20 >=20 > There may be a handful of people who -KNOW- why these RR codes were > created. The documentation for their creation is, to my knowledge, > nonexistant. Now the IANA has flagged the codes as [IANA-reserved], > but there is no data on how they got there, other than hearsay. Yes but if you have deprecation documents you can at least say that they don't need to be implemented and if you can find the documents you can reference them and if not you can say that they could not be found. You don't need to implement something that's been deprecated as long as there's a document saying so. You can drag a dead horse to water, but how do you get it to drink? Danny -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 14 14:38:55 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyuDf-0001Mi-9j; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:38:55 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyuDe-00066t-TK; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:38:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hyu8h-000FlI-40 for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:33:47 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [66.92.146.160] (helo=ogud.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hyu8V-000Fkb-VF for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:33:41 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (hlid.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l5EIXJAx082919; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:33:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20070614172710.GA16986@vacation.karoshi.com.> References: <20070613184240.GD2012@afilias.info> <20070614172710.GA16986@vacation.karoshi.com.> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:32:34 -0400 To: bmanning@karoshi.com From: Edward Lewis Subject: Re: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up Cc: Edward Lewis , Andrew Sullivan , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d185fa790257f526fedfd5d01ed9c976 At 17:27 +0000 6/14/07, bmanning@karoshi.com wrote: > WG meeting minutes. WKS was deemed an atack vector. > Prudent operators stopped using it. RFC 5013 - Bill's Notes from DNSIND. >> 23 - NSAP-PTR is blank, presumably that is meant as a "ditto" to the >> previous line. > > nit-picker. If I had known it was Bill's. >> 31 and 32 - EID and NIMLOC have no document to define them. > > wait... i have copies in my archives. http://bill's brain/notes... Seriously, I have located copies on the web, but they are not in archival documents. I think all would be happy asking IANA to just list them as IANA reserved. >> 34 - IANA's reference is an email address that is out of date. > > whiner. do ALL email addresses have to continue to work > forever? Try sending comments to the editor of RFC 3090 and see if he cares. >> 38 - IANA doesn't list 3363 which moved A6 to experimental. > > perhaps it should I consider that a minor registration clean up. >> 40 - SINK has no defining document listed. > > again ... check WG meeting minutes. As Donald replies later...just needs doin', nothing big. >> 100-103 - no explanation why these are IANA reserved are documented. > > One really needs to get DocMoc to write it down... along > with Keith Sklower or any of the other original Berkeley team > who might remember. I don't want to make too much out of this. Perhaps the registration is okay as it is. The registry doesn't need the rationale, just maintains the links from object (type code name and number) to subject (document). > actually, a valid response to such a request is "I can't, > the documentation has been erased"... Witness the problems > building a SaturnV booster. The blueprints are listed > as being @ Houston and Goddard... but there are no prints left. Even that would be good - recall I am concerned that a fresh implementer couldn't determine how to implement a "required" type. If the type is forgotten, just say that. BTW, the Saturn V plans are probably in a store room in GSFC building 5. If you ever tried to trace the 10Base2 cable in the basement you'd probably find the backups of the Iran-Contra emails too. I'm serious. No smiley here. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar Sarcasm doesn't scale. -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 14 14:42:18 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyuGw-00029n-JS; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:42:18 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyuGv-0006he-8Y; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:42:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyuBo-000G29-3Z for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:37:00 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [204.152.184.138] (helo=ntp2.ntp.isc.org) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyuBd-000G1K-BR for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:36:54 +0000 Received: from 65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net (65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net [65.86.158.146]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ntp2.ntp.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE81D39914; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:36:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayer@gis.net) Received: from [198.22.153.10] (helo=[10.60.98.30]) by 65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net with esmtpsa (SSL 3.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1HyuBZ-0005pE-4B; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:36:45 -0400 Message-ID: <46718A9E.1000802@gis.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:36:14 -0400 From: Danny Mayer Reply-To: mayer@gis.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Conrad Cc: Jim Reid , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up References: <20070613184240.GD2012@afilias.info> <74C00A63-1286-4D2C-8164-C467AC69EF3C@rfc1035.com> <192608DF-19D0-4E4E-A49A-30131DCC0FEF@icann.org> In-Reply-To: <192608DF-19D0-4E4E-A49A-30131DCC0FEF@icann.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-kostecke.net-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-kostecke.net-MailScanner-From: mayer@gis.net Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9182cfff02fae4f1b6e9349e01d62f32 David Conrad wrote: >> Ed, if you're going to clean out the RR type code stable, how about >> declaring all codes that don't have documentation as dead or retired? >> Presumably if someone is still using such codes they would scream >> about their impending termination. > > How would they know? > Actually it doesn't make any difference. You are still compliant with DNS if you implement something that's been deprecated, just don't expect everyone else to have implemented it. And since Unknown type handling is now part of the mix it doesn't matter to anyone except the servers that need to use it. Danny > Rgds, > -drc -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 14 14:45:17 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyuJp-00035Y-8a; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:45:17 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyuJn-0007jO-VC; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:45:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyuFx-000GKh-8C for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:41:17 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [66.92.146.160] (helo=ogud.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyuFm-000GK0-FN for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:41:11 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (hlid.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l5EIcNfC082954; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:38:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <467187A4.60504@ntp.isc.org> References: <4670BF47.2030208@gis.net> <20070614044211.GA12450@vacation.karoshi.com> <467187A4.60504@ntp.isc.org> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:38:19 -0400 To: mayer@ntp.isc.org From: Edward Lewis Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up Cc: Edward Lewis , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8abaac9e10c826e8252866cbe6766464 At 14:23 -0400 6/14/07, Danny Mayer wrote: >Well this brings up the problem that there is no one place that one can >go to to get the official complete list of IETF RFCs and other documents >and whatnot that one would need to implement and comply with in order to >build your new edifice that one could then say is completely DNS >compliant (assuming we know what that really means). 100% right, mostly. There isn't any universal single list of RFCs that define DNS. But in the scope of contacted work, there is a single list that matters. ;) RFCs don't matter in the real world, RFPs and contracts do. The latter documents will cherry pick the RFCs they want to include in the delivery. This is why I want to make sure we clean up the frayed edges of the RR type registry. (Spurred mostly be the ATMA document too.) -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar Sarcasm doesn't scale. -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 14 14:52:31 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyuQp-0007pI-GZ; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:52:31 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyuQo-0000PO-42; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:52:31 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyuLL-000GhR-Ej for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:46:51 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [66.92.66.68] (helo=cyteen.hactrn.net) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyuGM-000GM0-Hl for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:41:47 +0000 Received: from thrintun.hactrn.net (thrintun.hactrn.net [IPv6:2002:425c:4242:0:219:d1ff:fe12:5d30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "thrintun.hactrn.net", Issuer "Grunchweather Associates" (verified OK)) by cyteen.hactrn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1822428452 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:41:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thrintun.hactrn.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by thrintun.hactrn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01F122828 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:41:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:41:40 -0400 From: Rob Austein To: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up In-Reply-To: References: <20070613184240.GD2012@afilias.info> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/21.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20070614184140.C01F122828@thrintun.hactrn.net> Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 68c8cc8a64a9d0402e43b8eee9fc4199 At Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:00:30 -0400, Ed Lewis wrote: > > 11 - WKS is widely rumored to be dead, but I can't find a document to > back that up. (I suppose other types are as dead, but no > documentation.) Not sure about "dead", but try RFC 1123 2.2, 5.2.12, and 6.1.3.6. -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 14 15:52:50 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyvNC-0005AR-Ps; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:52:50 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyvNC-00037A-5l; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:52:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyvB5-000KKh-D5 for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:40:19 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HEADER_SPAM autolearn=no version=3.1.8 Received: from [66.92.146.160] (helo=ogud.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyvAu-000KJi-76 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:40:14 +0000 Received: from mail.ogud.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l5EJe4GK083388 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:40:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from namedroppers@mail.ogud.com) Received: (from namedroppers@localhost) by mail.ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l5EJe4Pp083387 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:40:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from namedroppers) Received: from [204.152.184.138] (helo=ntp2.ntp.isc.org) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HytzO-000F90-Nr for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:24:16 +0000 Received: from 65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net (65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net [65.86.158.146]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ntp2.ntp.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1076539911; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:24:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayer@ntp.isc.org) Received: from [198.22.153.10] (helo=[10.60.98.30]) by 65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net with esmtpsa (SSL 3.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1HytzH-0005ja-Os; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:24:03 -0400 Message-ID: <467187A4.60504@ntp.isc.org> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:23:32 -0400 From: Danny Mayer Reply-To: mayer@ntp.isc.org User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edward Lewis Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up References: <4670BF47.2030208@gis.net> <20070614044211.GA12450@vacation.karoshi.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-kostecke.net-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-kostecke.net-MailScanner-From: mayer@ntp.isc.org X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8b30eb7682a596edff707698f4a80f7d [ Moderators note: Post was moderated, either because it was posted by a non-subscriber, or because it was over 20K. With the massive amount of spam, it is easy to miss and therefore delete relevant posts by non-subscribers. Please fix your subscription addresses. ] Edward Lewis wrote: > (Answers to Bill's, Danny's, and Mark's replies.) > > At 4:42 +0000 6/14/07, bmanning@karoshi.com wrote: >>On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 12:08:39AM -0400, Danny Mayer wrote: > > (Bill) >> So Ed is concerned that the IANA registry points to documents >> and people who (might) change/move over time and the original >> reference will be lost ... the IANA has a dangling pointer. >> >> Is this the jist of your concern Ed? > > Not exactly. Although I have been labelled anal retentive [1] about > keeping things in order, I agree that would be too much work. The jist > of mu concern is ... if I were to walk off the street and try to write > up a DNS protocol element (server, stub, etc.) can I find all of the > documentation to create a compliant hunk of code. > Well this brings up the problem that there is no one place that one can go to to get the official complete list of IETF RFCs and other documents and whatnot that one would need to implement and comply with in order to build your new edifice that one could then say is completely DNS compliant (assuming we know what that really means). Danny -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 14 16:10:29 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyveH-0000Gu-12; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:10:29 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyveF-0007nl-Ku; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:10:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyvZJ-000MBH-Ca for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:05:21 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [66.92.66.68] (helo=cyteen.hactrn.net) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyvZ8-000MA0-CU for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:05:15 +0000 Received: from thrintun.hactrn.net (thrintun.hactrn.net [IPv6:2002:425c:4242:0:219:d1ff:fe12:5d30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "thrintun.hactrn.net", Issuer "Grunchweather Associates" (verified OK)) by cyteen.hactrn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A7D28462 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thrintun.hactrn.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by thrintun.hactrn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91FE22828 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:05:08 -0400 From: Rob Austein To: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up In-Reply-To: <46719CC5.5060108@ntp.isc.org> References: <20070613184240.GD2012@afilias.info> <20070614184140.C01F122828@thrintun.hactrn.net> <46719CC5.5060108@ntp.isc.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/21.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20070614200508.D91FE22828@thrintun.hactrn.net> Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 79899194edc4f33a41f49410777972f8 At Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:53:41 -0400, Danny Mayer wrote: > > I have this vague recollection that MIT wanted it for HESIOD or > something like that. The trouble is that I don't know where I get my > vague feelings from! :( Some mailing list or other, probably this one. Symbolics (an MIT spin-off) used WKS heavily in their attempt to fit DNS into the Lisp Machine Namespace system and the associated generic heterogeneous network access code, because it was, in theory, a good match for the existing semantics that their code assumed. In practice, WKS was not deployed widely enough for this to work right. I don't think Project Athena ever cared much about WKS, but I could be wrong, they were Unix weenies on the wrong side of the tracks and those two cultures didn't talk much in those days. -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 14 16:37:32 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hyw4S-0001XU-AM; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:37:32 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hyw4R-0004Qt-0u; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:37:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyvzY-000O4a-H5 for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:32:28 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [213.154.224.50] (helo=bartok.nlnetlabs.nl) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyvzN-000O3e-Dz for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:32:23 +0000 Received: from bartok.nlnetlabs.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.nlnetlabs.nl (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l5EKWCV2077732 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:32:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jaap@bartok.nlnetlabs.nl) Message-Id: <200706142032.l5EKWCV2077732@bartok.nlnetlabs.nl> To: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:33:35 +0100. <74C00A63-1286-4D2C-8164-C467AC69EF3C@rfc1035.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:32:12 +0200 From: Jaap Akkerhuis Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7d33c50f3756db14428398e2bdedd581 Ed, if you're going to clean out the RR type code stable, how about declaring all codes that don't have documentation as dead or retired? Presumably if someone is still using such codes they would scream about their impending termination. And if that was to happen, they could then become the stuckees who eat their own dog food and document those type codes. Perhaps this is being naive. Another way is to ask people what they do when implementing nam server software from scratch. I seem to remember that when we did nsd we only implemented the documented RR types. We also left out the deprecated versions. It is somewhere in the requirements documents (see the source Luke). I wonder what PowerDNS sid when they started. jaap -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 14 16:51:28 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HywHw-0003hw-1d; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:51:28 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HywHv-0007SP-O3; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:51:28 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HywCW-000P0v-3n for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:45:52 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [66.92.146.160] (helo=ogud.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HywCK-000Ozf-TD for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:45:46 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (hlid.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l5EKjUnd083938; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:45:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20070614203310.GA18146@vacation.karoshi.com.> References: <20070613184240.GD2012@afilias.info> <20070614172710.GA16986@vacation.karoshi.com.> <20070614203310.GA18146@vacation.karoshi.com.> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:45:08 -0400 To: bmanning@karoshi.com From: Edward Lewis Subject: Re: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up Cc: Edward Lewis , bmanning@karoshi.com, Andrew Sullivan , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c1c65599517f9ac32519d043c37c5336 At 20:33 +0000 6/14/07, bmanning@karoshi.com wrote: > perhaps... but I am aware that the folks who did the movie > "Apollo 13" did an exaustive search (and paid big bucks for > dedicated people to do it) and were unable to locate them... > NASA finally declared them "lost". > >> I'm serious. No smiley here. > > it sounds kind of like you are working toward a crisp suite of > "required" options that MUST be supported.... others mentioned > DNS conformance as in DNS conformance suite... I think that > IETF protocols, in general, suffer/excel BECAUSE there is little > in the way of conformance mandates. The TCP folks are already > in that rathole and there is no indication they will surface anytime > soon. Ditto SMTP, Telnet, and SNMP... My 'serious' was more about where copies of the Sat V plans and the Iran-Contra tapes are. As far as anything on '"required" options that MUST' - ha! Having once been a rat myself, rat holes are vastly overrated. > A fresh implementor should document WHICH types are implemented and > based on what specification. Then folks won't have to guess and > -we- don't have to play implementor police. I'm talking about the other way around. The Internet is no longer driven by fresh faced implementers pushing the envelope, exceeding the minimum level of necessary functionality. That's so 20th century. Now it's driven by contract negotiators who want to pay as little as possible for anything that winds up as a cost in the ledger. And telecommunications is a cost, just like security. I don't care what RR types an implementer does, I care about what RR types a regulator demands. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar Sarcasm doesn't scale. -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 14 16:54:18 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HywKg-0003xA-5P; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:54:18 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HywKe-0007q4-ON; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:54:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HywGS-000PFP-D7 for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:49:56 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [66.92.146.160] (helo=ogud.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HywGH-000PDw-6M for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:49:51 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (hlid.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l5EKnYUv083984; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:49:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200706142032.l5EKWCV2077732@bartok.nlnetlabs.nl> References: <200706142032.l5EKWCV2077732@bartok.nlnetlabs.nl> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:49:30 -0400 To: Jaap Akkerhuis From: Edward Lewis Subject: Re: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 At 22:32 +0200 6/14/07, Jaap Akkerhuis wrote: >Another way is to ask people what they do when implementing nam server >software from scratch. I seem to remember that when we did nsd we only >implemented the documented RR types. We also left out the deprecated >versions. It is somewhere in the requirements documents (see the source >Luke). I wonder what PowerDNS sid when they started. One reason I roused this topic up was reminiscing on the days when I still had talent and knew all the options of an ld command. I once did write up DNS stuff from scratch. I went to the IANA page and coded everything that wasn't marked as . It wasn't until I met ne'er-do-wells at an IETF that I learned all the time spent on things like WKS, EID, NSAP, etc., were all wasted effort. 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 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_7C922806.7A91AFB7-- From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 14 22:10:37 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hz1Gn-0006rm-8u; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:10:37 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hz1Gl-0003Uu-UT; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:10:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hz15D-000INc-DV for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:58:39 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [204.152.184.138] (helo=ntp2.ntp.isc.org) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hz152-000INH-JT for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:58:33 +0000 Received: from 65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net (65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net [65.86.158.146]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ntp2.ntp.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E53739911; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:58:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayer@gis.net) Received: from cust-63-209-234-22.bos-dynamic.gis.net ([63.209.234.22] helo=[10.10.10.100]) by 65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net with esmtpsa (SSL 3.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1Hz14y-0001D9-C1; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:58:24 -0400 Message-ID: <4671F23C.7070803@gis.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:58:20 -0400 From: Danny Mayer Reply-To: mayer@gis.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bmanning@karoshi.com Cc: Edward Lewis , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up References: <4670BF47.2030208@gis.net> <20070614044211.GA12450@vacation.karoshi.com.> <467175A3.8090804@gis.net> <20070614171957.GC16859@vacation.karoshi.com.> In-Reply-To: <20070614171957.GC16859@vacation.karoshi.com.> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-kostecke.net-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-kostecke.net-MailScanner-From: mayer@gis.net Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 97adf591118a232206bdb5a27b217034 bmanning@karoshi.com wrote: > (and as the designer/original implementor of NSAP-PTR, while there > is no document deprecating it, there was near universal WG agreement > that it was superfulous (nearly everything NSAP-PTR did can be done w/ PTR) > and w/ the IANA's permission, we "declared" it deprecated... which > is why you don't see AAAA-PTR today.. )** > So you have a pointer to where it's "declared" deprecated? >> You can drag a dead horse to water, but how do you get it to drink? > > easy. push all the air/gas out, submerge it and release. > when the corpse expands, it sucks up (drinks) the water. > Gives a whole new meaning to bloatware... > --bill >> Danny > > ** almost everything. 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<200706150550.l5F5oR11034035@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: Edward Lewis Cc: Andrew Sullivan , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org From: Mark Andrews Subject: Re: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:00:30 -0400." Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:50:27 +1000 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cf3becbbd6d1a45acbe2ffd4ab88bdc2 > At 14:42 -0400 6/13/07, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > > >Yes, I am volunteering. Do you have some pointers that I should go > > Oh, and I heard that... > > First steps before trying to cut English is to agree on what types > need a few words and what to say. > > Here are the type values that I think don't quite add up. Perhaps > there are more - I was merely looking to see if there were documents > that support the general knowledge of the type. When I say IANA > should do something or doesn't list something, I am referring to the > dns-parameters web page. > > 11 - WKS is widely rumored to be dead, but I can't find a document to > back that up. (I suppose other types are as dead, but no > documentation.) RFC 1123 deprecates its use w/o deprecating it. 2.2 Using Domain Name Service An application SHOULD NOT rely on the ability to locate a WKS record containing an accurate listing of all services at a particular host address, since the WKS RR type is not often used by Internet sites. To confirm that a service is present, simply attempt to use it. and 5.2.12 WKS Use in MX Processing: RFC-974, p. 5 RFC-974 [SMTP:3] recommended that the domain system be queried for WKS ("Well-Known Service") records, to verify that each proposed mail target does support SMTP. Later experience has shown that WKS is not widely supported, so the WKS step in MX processing SHOULD NOT be used. The following are notes on RFC-822, organized by section of that document. > 14 - IANA should mark this as EXPERIMENTAL as per 1035. > 16 and 17 - these are the two types in RFC 1002 that conflict with > the TXT and the RP types. No. 32 (NIMLOC) and 33 (SRV) are the conflicting types. From RFC 1002 Symbol Value Description: NB 0x0020 NetBIOS general Name Service Resource Record NBSTAT 0x0021 NetBIOS NODE STATUS Resource Record (See NODE STATUS REQUEST) > 23 - NSAP-PTR is blank, presumably that is meant as a "ditto" to the > previous line. > 31 and 32 - EID and NIMLOC have no document to define them. > 34 - IANA's reference is an email address that is out of date. > 38 - IANA doesn't list 3363 which moved A6 to experimental. > 40 - SINK has no defining document listed. > 100-103 - no explanation why these are IANA reserved are documented. > > I am sure we can consider other types dead or in a vegetative state, > like X25, but my goal here is just to make sure that if you are told > to implement a DNS protocol speaking element, you have access to a > complete specification, not necessarily a sensible specification. > > I'm sure that the "problems" with types 14, 23, and 38 are just > editorial moves needed on the web page. > > I am only "excited" about the conflicting definitions of types 16 and > 17 because the types that we don't recognize are defined in a > document that has attained "STD" status. > > Are there other types people would like to see treated? > > -- > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 > NeuStar > > Sarcasm doesn't scale. > > -- > to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with > the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. > archive: -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Fri Jun 15 09:01:50 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzBR0-0002z2-FI; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 09:01:50 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzBQu-0005YY-NC; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 09:01:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HzBEp-0006Qb-DO for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:49:15 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [66.92.146.160] (helo=ogud.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HzBEe-0006Pz-5T for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:49:09 +0000 Received: from [10.31.32.65] (hlid.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l5FCmwxP094092; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:48:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200706150550.l5F5oR11034035@drugs.dv.isc.org> References: <200706150550.l5F5oR11034035@drugs.dv.isc.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:46:06 -0400 To: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org From: Edward Lewis Subject: Re: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up Cc: Edward Lewis Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7d33c50f3756db14428398e2bdedd581 At 15:50 +1000 6/15/07, Mark Andrews wrote: >> 16 and 17 - these are the two types in RFC 1002 that conflict with >> the TXT and the RP types. > > No. 32 (NIMLOC) and 33 (SRV) are the conflicting types. Showing age - I was thinking octal again. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar Sarcasm doesn't scale. -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Fri Jun 15 10:27:39 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzCm3-0001lE-HK; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:27:39 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzCm3-0000Uc-44; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:27:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HzCar-000CSK-Ma for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:16:05 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [156.154.16.158] (helo=ns0.neustar.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HzCag-000CRT-HK for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:16:00 +0000 Received: from stiedprstage1.ietf.org (stiedprstage1.va.neustar.com [10.31.47.10]) by ns0.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F873293A; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:15:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ietf by stiedprstage1.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HzCaf-0000ls-NK; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:15:53 -0400 X-test-idtracker: no From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce Cc: Internet Architecture Board , RFC Editor , dnsext mailing list , dnsext chair Subject: Protocol Action: 'DNS Name Server Identifier Option (NSID)' to Proposed Standard Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:15:53 -0400 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8de5f93cb2b4e3bee75302e9eacc33db The IESG has approved the following document: - 'DNS Name Server Identifier Option (NSID) ' as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the DNS Extensions Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Mark Townsley and Jari Arkko. A URL of this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dnsext-nsid-02.txt Technical Summary In order to be able to identify certain nameservers in a DNS anycast cloud clients querying nameservers in that cloud can add an EDNS OPT pseudo RR that signals the answering nameservers to include identifying information in an OPT RR that is attached to the answer. This technique improves the existing ad-hoc methods to identify nameservers. Working Group Summary Working group consensus is solid. During the working group discussions the question came up to also allow for client to server identification. This was argued to be out of scope. Protocol Quality This document was reviewed by Peter Koch, David Conrad, Sam Weiler, Paul Vixie, Mark Andrews, Francis Dupont, Olaf Kolkman, Thomas Narten and Mark Townsley. This feature will be implemented in at least two independent open-source products used on anycasted root-servers. And will be available in at least one resolver implementation and become available in two libraries. Note to RFC Editor Please add the following new text. The first chunk is in the discussion of NSID payload, the second is in the Security Considerations section. The diff is taken from the xml source. @@ -310,6 +310,25 @@ constellation identify themselves as "My Name Server" would not be particularly useful. + + A signed blob is not particularly useful as NSID payload + unless the signed data is dynamic and includes some kind + of replay protection such as a timestamp or some kind of + data identifying the requestor. Signed blobs that meet + these criteria could conceivably be useful in some + situations but would require detailed security analysis + beyond the scope of this document. + + + A static encrypted blob would not be particularly + useful, as it would be subject to replay attacks and + would, in effect, just be a random number to any party + that does not posess the decryption key. Dynamic + encrypted blobs could conceivably be useful in some + situations but, as with signed blobs, dynamic encrypted + blobs would require detailed security analysis beyond + the scope of this document. + @@ -467,6 +486,18 @@ the NSID option content up to the implementation and the name server operator. + + Two of the possible kinds of payload data discussed in involve digital signature and + encryption, respectively. While this specification discusses + some of the pitfalls that might lurk for careless users of + these kinds of payload data, full analysis of the issues that + would be involved in these kinds of payload data would require + knowledge of the content to be signed or encrypted, algorithms + to be used, and so forth, which is beyond the scope of this + document. Implementors should seek competent advice before + attempting to use these kinds of NSID payloads. + -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Fri Jun 15 13:26:15 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzFYt-0005sP-9l; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:26:15 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzFYp-0001nn-0I; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:26:15 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HzFQR-000294-06 for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:17:31 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [204.152.184.138] (helo=ntp2.ntp.isc.org) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HzFQG-00028Y-0o for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:17:25 +0000 Received: from 65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net (65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net [65.86.158.146]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ntp2.ntp.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF44E3990F; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:17:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayer@gis.net) Received: from [198.22.153.10] (helo=[10.60.98.30]) by 65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net with esmtpsa (SSL 3.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1HzFQ7-0000qw-O9; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:17:11 -0400 Message-ID: <4672C970.4090102@gis.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:16:32 -0400 From: Danny Mayer Reply-To: mayer@gis.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edward Lewis Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up References: <200706150550.l5F5oR11034035@drugs.dv.isc.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-kostecke.net-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-kostecke.net-MailScanner-From: mayer@gis.net Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 79899194edc4f33a41f49410777972f8 Edward Lewis wrote: > At 15:50 +1000 6/15/07, Mark Andrews wrote: > >>> 16 and 17 - these are the two types in RFC 1002 that conflict with >>> the TXT and the RP types. >> >> No. 32 (NIMLOC) and 33 (SRV) are the conflicting types. > > Showing age - I was thinking octal again. > > You must be *really* showing your age: you mean hex! Danny -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Fri Jun 15 16:09:48 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzI0e-0007ms-77; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:03:04 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzHxn-0005HX-RJ; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:00:21 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HzHrb-000Bfs-Ua for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:53:43 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HEADER_SPAM autolearn=no version=3.1.8 Received: from [66.92.146.160] (helo=ogud.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HzHrN-000BeF-4Y for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:53:35 +0000 Received: from mail.ogud.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l5FJrFms096623 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:53:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from namedroppers@mail.ogud.com) Received: (from namedroppers@localhost) by mail.ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l5FJpFs9096542 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:51:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from namedroppers) Received: from [204.152.184.138] (helo=ntp2.ntp.isc.org) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HyvOa-000LIE-D3 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:54:21 +0000 Received: from 65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net (65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net [65.86.158.146]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ntp2.ntp.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB44839915; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayer@ntp.isc.org) Received: from [198.22.153.10] (helo=[10.60.98.30]) by 65-86-158-146.client.dsl.net with esmtpsa (SSL 3.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1HyvOW-0006TN-IQ; Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:54:12 -0400 Message-ID: <46719CC5.5060108@ntp.isc.org> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:53:41 -0400 From: Danny Mayer Reply-To: mayer@ntp.isc.org User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Austein Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up References: <20070613184240.GD2012@afilias.info> <20070614184140.C01F122828@thrintun.hactrn.net> In-Reply-To: <20070614184140.C01F122828@thrintun.hactrn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-kostecke.net-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-kostecke.net-MailScanner-From: mayer@ntp.isc.org Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9182cfff02fae4f1b6e9349e01d62f32 [ Moderators note: Post was moderated, either because it was posted by a non-subscriber, or because it was over 20K. With the massive amount of spam, it is easy to miss and therefore delete relevant posts by non-subscribers. Please fix your subscription addresses. ] Rob Austein wrote: > At Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:00:30 -0400, Ed Lewis wrote: >> 11 - WKS is widely rumored to be dead, but I can't find a document to >> back that up. (I suppose other types are as dead, but no >> documentation.) > > Not sure about "dead", but try RFC 1123 2.2, 5.2.12, and 6.1.3.6. I have this vague recollection that MIT wanted it for HESIOD or something like that. The trouble is that I don't know where I get my vague feelings from! :( Some mailing list or other, probably this one. Danny -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From lypfw@page.nextel.com Fri Jun 15 23:36:45 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzP5h-0006FG-Qo for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:36:45 -0400 Received: from [211.246.132.60] (helo=cygfz) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzP5h-00022X-3C for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:36:45 -0400 Received: from [182.119.58.79] (helo=tdy) by cygfz with smtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) id 1I!d9¸-0004ek-9p; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:39:51 +0900 Message-ID: <46735AD4.7030001@page.nextel.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:36:52 +0900 From: Ann Helms User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org Subject: colloquially scrimp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 4.3 (++++) X-Scan-Signature: bdc523f9a54890b8a30dd6fd53d5d024 SREA Gets In On $75 Million Project. Investors Respond! Score One Inc. SREA $0.20 UP 33% Investors are hyped about this new project. It will not only bring increased revenues to Score but increased exposure on an international project like this. Read the news and get on SREA firs thing Monday! In the thinking outlined here, it has an omni-directional identity. This is not appropriate for use by private individuals. Nor were users clamoring for a single Microsoft identity service to be aware of all their Internet activities. The card issuer asserts that these claims are valid. Examples have been given of unmanned devices that could be detonated by these beacons. More people are using the Web for everyday tasks, from shopping, banking, and paying bills to consuming media and entertainment. A ceremony is not a "whatever feels good" sort of thing. For example, if a scenario requires proof of being a certain age, then it is better to acquire and store the age category rather than the birth date. It allows us to define digital identity for a metasystem embracing multiple implementations and ways of doing things. For instance, if one party understands SAML and X. For instance, claims made in formats such as X. We call these principles "The Laws of Identity". They are: User Control and Consent: Identity systems must only reveal information identifying a user with the user's consent. Bluetooth and other wireless technologies have not so far conformed to the Law of Directed Identity. A claim is: "An assertion of the truth of something, typically one which is disputed or in doubt. This investigation has led to a set of ideas called the Laws of Identity. NET WebMethod Framework by Adding XML Schema ValidationWeb Services: Extend the ASP. Claims transformers may also transform or refine the semantics of claims. More people are using the Web for everyday tasks, from shopping, banking, and paying bills to consuming media and entertainment. Another example involves the proposed usage of RFID technology in passports and student tracking applications. Governments too have found they have needs that distinguish them from other kinds of organization. Yet despite their success they have failed to attract usage in other scenarios. NET WebMethod Framework by Adding XML Schema ValidationWeb Services: Extend the ASP. Further, it must reinforce the sense that the user is in control regardless of context, rather than arbitrarily altering its contract with the user. A second example of such a public entity is a publicly visible device like a video projector. More people are using the Web for everyday tasks, from shopping, banking, and paying bills to consuming media and entertainment. The Law of User Control and Consent allows for the use of mechanisms whereby the metasystem remembers user decisions, and users may opt to have them applied automatically on subsequent occasions. Consistent User Experience Many identity attacks succeed because the user was fooled by something presented on the screen, not because of insecure communication technologies. Because of this, there is no correlation handle emitted that can be shared between sites to assemble profile activities and preferences into super-dossiers. Whatever it is, we've got to do it better: the identity system must extend to and integrate the human user. In California we are already seeing the first legislative measures being taken to correct abuse of identity directionality. The technology of "device drivers" enabled interchangeable hardware to be plugged in as required. Our goals are pragmatic. What factors explain these successes and failures? 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Mi have whole heap more equipment fi use pon unnu!
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Her skirt flipped over her head, revealing that she wasn't wearing any panties. ' The mirror would respond 'Oh you.
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Mcgee User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dnsext-archive@ietf.org Subject: Aging Mental Decline Reversible? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 4.3 (++++) X-Scan-Signature: 00e94c813bef7832af255170dca19e36 Word Is Out, Big News Monday! Score One Inc. SREA $0.20 UP 33.3% This week's news has already been pushing SREA up. Word is out a BIG news release is expected Monday! Keep your eyes open and get on SREA Monday! What are your thoughts on the matter of prizes and research? In that, it has already succeeded spectacularly. This brief piece from Betterhumans doesn't give much more information than that, but it looks like we'll be hearing more about this before the year is out. Click here to see how easy it is. It gives a view of the future of nutritional advice: the most effective diets for health and longevity are determined from a reading of your genes. The following links should be useful in this regard. htmlFollowing up on Monday's article on deep divisions between merchants, doctors and researchers, here's another good one from the Seattle Times. The prize can be awarded multiple times as researchers compete with incremental improvements in science. This article is a proposal for a similar prize for research that produces mice with the longest lives. Osteoporosis is high up on the list of long-term worries for healthy life extensionists, alongside degenerative conditions like Alzheimer's. htmlIt looks like a drug used to treat diabetes has been found to mimic the healthy life extension effects of calorie restriction in mice. htmlYahoo News reports on promising early studies in regenerative medicine by StemCells, Inc. So let's firmly attach "healthy" in front of "life extension" and see how it goes. Osteoporosis is high up on the list of long-term worries for healthy life extensionists, alongside degenerative conditions like Alzheimer's. orgThe Cryonics Society of Canada has updated their site; it's a useful resource for those who want to know more about cryonics. In this case, it seems that men who are genetically prone to higher levels of an anti-inflammatory protein are more likely to live longer lives. It is vital to look to the future, and more importantly, work to create the sort of future you can and want to live in. htmThis article illustrates a portion of the ongoing internal debate between segments of the anti-aging supplement and medicine industry. This happens ahead of the forthcoming debate on banning theraputic cloning. If this can be controlled, it would be another ingenious means of completely curing cancer. Perhaps the most well known current prize is the "XPrize. SAGE Crossroads has a cautious and pro-regulatory editorial stance, alas, but the debates speak for themselves. Less public interest means that funding goes elsewhere, which means that there will continue to be little research. Some very interesting ideas are in this proposal, and a surprisingly low cost. This would be another blow to vital research seeking cures for age-related conditions such as Alzheimer's, Parkinsons and cancer. So talk to your physician, look into calorie restriction and sort out your weight! California has passed a bill explicitly permitting some of this research, but as the medical marijuana controversy has shown, federal agencies will ignore state law and arrest people anyway. Beyond that, there is also the tantalizing promise of greater insight into the normal mechanisms of aging. Nothing new is said; the sides are worlds apart. With an XPrize for anti-aging research, we would have the chance to turn that all around: publicity, competing researchers, goals that the public could understand, appreciate and cheer for. From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Sun Jun 17 18:54:57 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I03e5-0007Y0-UE; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 18:54:57 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I03e4-0005NY-Iw; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 18:54:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I03WB-000JIl-7N for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:46:47 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [204.14.89.4] (helo=mail2.fluidhosting.com) by psg.com with smtp (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I03W0-000JIH-1W for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:46:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 32604 invoked by uid 399); 17 Jun 2007 20:59:54 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO lap.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Jun 2007 20:59:54 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 Message-ID: <4675A0C8.8060600@dougbarton.us> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:59:52 -0700 From: Doug Barton User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070617) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edward Lewis CC: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 4adaf050708fb13be3316a9eee889caa Edward Lewis wrote: > Yet another non-technical bureaucratic thread... > > Looking at this URL: > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/dns-parameters > > the IANA has allocated a number of RR type codes that are not documented > in RFC documents. I don't really care much about the procedural > problem, but imagine someone trying to implement a DNS element without > looking at the BIND source code. Ed, I applaud your efforts in this area (both now, and in the past). It's much needed, and very unappreciated work. Forgive me if this is premature, but I'd like to move toward a more concrete recommendation for IANA, whether it would require a draft or not. For example, for the WKS record: TYPE value and meaning Reference ---------- -------------------------------------- --------- DEPRECATED 11 Reserved, formerly WKS [IANA] [1] And then add a note that says something to the effect of, [1] 'All RRs with type "DEPRECATED" are subject to reallocation if all other code points are exhausted.' Donald is right in saying that we're not in any danger of running out, but I think if we're going to clean up this space, let's make sure we make our intentions clear to the future generations. If the consensus is that we will need a draft to update this stuff, I'd be glad to assist. Doug -- If you're never wrong, you're not trying hard enough -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Sun Jun 17 19:07:22 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I03q6-0003KT-Dp; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:07:22 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I03q5-00081t-3t; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:07:22 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I03ku-000MOL-4t for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:02:00 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [204.14.89.4] (helo=mail2.fluidhosting.com) by psg.com with smtp (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I03kj-000MNI-99 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:01:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 26058 invoked by uid 399); 17 Jun 2007 20:15:08 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO lap.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Jun 2007 20:15:08 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 Message-ID: <4675964A.4060503@dougbarton.us> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:15:06 -0700 From: Doug Barton User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070617) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Andrews CC: Edward Lewis , Andrew Sullivan , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up References: <200706150550.l5F5oR11034035@drugs.dv.isc.org> In-Reply-To: <200706150550.l5F5oR11034035@drugs.dv.isc.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a7d6aff76b15f3f56fcb94490e1052e4 Mark Andrews wrote: >> At 14:42 -0400 6/13/07, Andrew Sullivan wrote: >> >>> Yes, I am volunteering. Do you have some pointers that I should go >> Oh, and I heard that... >> >> First steps before trying to cut English is to agree on what types >> need a few words and what to say. >> >> Here are the type values that I think don't quite add up. Perhaps >> there are more - I was merely looking to see if there were documents >> that support the general knowledge of the type. When I say IANA >> should do something or doesn't list something, I am referring to the >> dns-parameters web page. >> >> 11 - WKS is widely rumored to be dead, but I can't find a document to >> back that up. (I suppose other types are as dead, but no >> documentation.) > > RFC 1123 deprecates its use w/o deprecating it. And in 1912: 2.6.1 WKS WKS records are deprecated in [RFC 1123]. They serve no known useful function, except internally among LISP machines. Don't use them. hth, Doug -- If you're never wrong, you're not trying hard enough -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Sun Jun 17 19:40:06 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I04Lm-0000Ge-6v; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:40:06 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I04Ll-0000Ba-T5; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:40:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I04He-00017v-7q for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:35:50 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [204.152.184.167] (helo=mx.isc.org) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I04HT-00017Q-1b for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:35:44 +0000 Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb::5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "farside.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by mx.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF18114083 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:35:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost.isc.org [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "drugs.dv.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FFBE6099 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:35:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l5HNY6MF018884; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:34:07 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from marka@drugs.dv.isc.org) Message-Id: <200706172334.l5HNY6MF018884@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: Doug Barton Cc: Edward Lewis , Andrew Sullivan , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org From: Mark Andrews Subject: Re: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:15:06 MST." <4675964A.4060503@dougbarton.us> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:34:06 +1000 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 244a2fd369eaf00ce6820a760a3de2e8 > Mark Andrews wrote: > >> At 14:42 -0400 6/13/07, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > >> > >>> Yes, I am volunteering. Do you have some pointers that I should go > >> Oh, and I heard that... > >> > >> First steps before trying to cut English is to agree on what types > >> need a few words and what to say. > >> > >> Here are the type values that I think don't quite add up. Perhaps > >> there are more - I was merely looking to see if there were documents > >> that support the general knowledge of the type. When I say IANA > >> should do something or doesn't list something, I am referring to the > >> dns-parameters web page. > >> > >> 11 - WKS is widely rumored to be dead, but I can't find a document to > >> back that up. (I suppose other types are as dead, but no > >> documentation.) > > > > RFC 1123 deprecates its use w/o deprecating it. > > And in 1912: > > 2.6.1 WKS > > WKS records are deprecated in [RFC 1123]. They serve no known > useful function, except internally among LISP machines. Don't > use them. We still need to formally deprecate the record. This allows nameserver vendors to remove support. In general, to deprecate a type, we need several milestones. * notice of intention to deprecate * notice of when all applications should cease to request type * notice of when all nameservers should cease to load type * notice of when type is free for re-use. I would also suggest that there be 10 or so years between each step. For WKS we are only at step 1 or 2 depending on how you read RFC 1123. For MD and MF we are at step 3. > hth, > > Doug > > -- > > If you're never wrong, you're not trying hard enough -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From ougbl@mmaroney.com Sun Jun 17 22:37:17 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I077F-0003fF-82 for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:37:17 -0400 Received: from cm70.omega111.maxonline.com.sg ([218.186.111.70]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I077D-0002qp-JE for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:37:17 -0400 Received: from uaw ([214.118.222.77]) by cm70.omega111.maxonline.com.sg (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id l5I2e2PO041350; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:40:02 +0800 Message-ID: <002301c7b151$92797850$4dde76d6@uaw> From: "Pauline" To: Subject: could Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:37:11 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01C7B194.A0911F90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4029.2901 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4029.2901 X-Spam-Score: 4.4 (++++) X-Scan-Signature: 96d3a783a4707f1ab458eb15058bb2d7 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C7B194.A0911F90 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0020_01C7B194.A09405C0" ------=_NextPart_001_0020_01C7B194.A09405C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "We do know that people who have a clinical diagnosis of ADHD smoke more = than those who don't," Kollins said. Wellenius, from Beth Israel = Deaconess Medical Center in Boston, told Reuters Health. These metaphors propose the idea that the body wears out with use. Kenneth Krebs, president of the American Academy of Periodontology. In a statement, Ms Hewitt said: "I shall introduce a Health Bill to the = House of Commons. "See more articles and news on smokersTrack news on cancer at = DiseaseWatch. Wellenius cited three possible mechanisms, which alone or in combination = might explain how air pollution promotes stroke. But private members' clubs are to be exempted from the ban. The = information on this site is provided for educational and entertainment = purposes only. See more articles and news on smokingTrack news on = doctors at ModernDoctor. She told MPs that evidence from other countries = suggested the number of people who smoked dropped by four per cent after = a ban. Researchers found increased levels of nicotine and cotinine in = plasma, saliva and urine, suggesting that water-pipe smoking affects = tissues in the same way as cigarette smoking. Researchers found = increased levels of nicotine and cotinine in plasma, saliva and urine, = suggesting that water-pipe smoking affects tissues in the same way as = cigarette smoking. It has helped me to organize my confused ideas about = many health topics, such as diabetes and high blood pressure. Keep up the great work! "If it created permanent damage you would tend = to see sperm quality go down over time," they said. "They say there has = been a fall in the number of smokers immediately after a ban has been = introduced in other countries - but it has gone up again shortly = afterwards. In addition, few previous studies have focused on older, = postmenopausal women who've had a particularly long smoking history. See = more articles and news on cancerTrack news on cancer at DiseaseWatch. "See more articles and news on smokingTrack news on doctors at = ModernDoctor. Mounting evidence suggests that traffic pollution reduces = the quality of sperm in men. Smoking also appeared to be independently = associated with weaker verbal and visual-spatial reasoning, the study = indicates. Upon further investigation, the researchers found that = smoking predicted poorer global proficiency even more strongly than = alcoholism did. Stay informed on breaking news about natural health, renewable energy = and more. But she said membership clubs would be exempt from the ban, = and non-food pubs and bars will be "free to choose whether to allow = smoking, or be smoke-free". But private members' clubs are to be = exempted from the ban. People say their knee joints have worn out, for = example, and that's why they have knee pain. "We support the Government in restrictions but don't believe that = necessitates an outright ban. 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"We do know that people who have a = clinical=20 diagnosis of ADHD smoke more than those who don't," Kollins said. = Wellenius, from=20 Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston, told Reuters = Health.
These metaphors propose the idea that = the body=20 wears out with use.
Kenneth Krebs, president of the = American Academy of=20 Periodontology.
In a statement, Ms Hewitt said: "I = shall introduce=20 a Health Bill to the House of Commons.
"See more articles and news on = smokersTrack news on=20 cancer at DiseaseWatch.
Wellenius cited three possible = mechanisms, which=20 alone or in combination might explain how air pollution promotes=20 stroke.
But private members' clubs are to be = exempted from=20 the ban. The information on this site is provided for educational and = entertainment=20 purposes only. See more articles and news on smokingTrack news on = doctors at=20 ModernDoctor. She told MPs that evidence from other countries suggested = the number=20 of people who smoked dropped by four per cent after a ban. Researchers = found=20 increased levels of nicotine and cotinine in plasma, saliva and urine, = suggesting=20 that water-pipe smoking affects tissues in the same way as cigarette = smoking.=20 Researchers found increased levels of nicotine and cotinine in plasma, = saliva and=20 urine, suggesting that water-pipe smoking affects tissues in the same = way as=20 cigarette smoking. It has helped me to organize my confused ideas about = many health=20 topics, such as diabetes and high blood pressure.
Keep up the great work! "If it created = permanent=20 damage you would tend to see sperm quality go down over time," they = said. "They say=20 there has been a fall in the number of smokers immediately after a ban = has been=20 introduced in other countries - but it has gone up again shortly = afterwards. In=20 addition, few previous studies have focused on older, postmenopausal = women who've=20 had a particularly long smoking history. See more articles and news on = cancerTrack=20 news on cancer at DiseaseWatch.
"See more articles and news on = smokingTrack news on=20 doctors at ModernDoctor. Mounting evidence suggests that traffic = pollution reduces=20 the quality of sperm in men. Smoking also appeared to be independently = associated=20 with weaker verbal and visual-spatial reasoning, the study indicates. = Upon further=20 investigation, the researchers found that smoking predicted poorer = global=20 proficiency even more strongly than alcoholism did.
Stay informed on breaking news about = natural=20 health, renewable energy and more. But she said membership clubs would = be exempt=20 from the ban, and non-food pubs and bars will be "free to choose whether = to allow=20 smoking, or be smoke-free". But private members' clubs are to be = exempted from the=20 ban. People say their knee joints have worn out, for example, and that's = why they=20 have knee pain.
"We support the Government in = restrictions but=20 don't believe that necessitates an outright ban. During the periods of = higher air=20 pollution sperm quality went down significantly. "It means that no child = is immune=20 to the influence of smoking in movies. MPs and peers from all three = major political=20 parties have written to Tony Blair urging him to abandon plans to exempt = pubs not=20 serving food and private members clubs from the smoking = ban.
Half of the women had a history of = breast cancer=20 and half served as a healthy control, or comparison, group. All = workplaces,=20 including restaurants and cafes, will now be covered by the ban, but = non-food pubs=20 and private members clubs will be exempt.
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[66.92.146.160] (helo=ogud.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0F7H-000Lz8-DX for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:09:57 +0000 Received: from mail.ogud.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l5IB9lKN020262 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 07:09:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from namedroppers@mail.ogud.com) Received: (from namedroppers@localhost) by mail.ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l5IB9ljj020261 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 07:09:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from namedroppers) Received: from [202.12.29.58] (helo=mint.apnic.net) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I08WZ-000G18-3C for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 04:07:36 +0000 Received: from [203.10.60.20] (dhcp20.potaroo.net [203.10.60.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mint.apnic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176A6D5F31; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:07:25 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <46760565.6070409@apnic.net> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:09:09 +1000 From: Geoff Huston User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton Cc: Edward Lewis , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up References: <4675A0C8.8060600@dougbarton.us> <4675CC48.4070207@apnic.net> <4675FDB6.9030408@dougbarton.us> In-Reply-To: <4675FDB6.9030408@dougbarton.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0fa76816851382eb71b0a882ccdc29ac [ Moderators note: Post was moderated, either because it was posted by a non-subscriber, or because it was over 20K. With the massive amount of spam, it is easy to miss and therefore delete relevant posts by non-subscribers. Please fix your subscription addresses. ] >> >> This example you have here is a classic example of a certain level of >> confusion that has been a consistent, but annoying, property of many of >> the IANA registries for many years, and your suggestion continues to >> promulgate this. >> >> There are three attributes of a registry that are of interest to clients >> of a registry >> >> 1 - its current contents, and >> >> 2 - the 'audit' trail of chnages over time that have lead to the the >> current status. >> >> 3 - the management policies of the registry >> >> I suggest that it is a lot easier for clients of a registry when these >> three views of the registry are clearly delineated. > > Geoff, > > That's a very interesting perspective, do you think that you could > expand a little on why you think this is true? We digress from the namedroppers charter, so I'll answer just once, and then take the conversation away from this list, as for many this is getting well off topic. For many clients of a registry, the substantive question is "what codepoints are currently valid?" How the registry arrived at this, and why are not exactly relevant to such a query. So the registry should be capable of presenting a clear, consistent and unambiguous display of the the current status of the registry. And here of course I use the term "client" in the broadest possible sense, in that there are many automated clients that sweep such registries. For some, the question of what changes have been made and when are of interest. And of course for others the basic policy framework that manages the registry is of interest. The current status of the IANA registries are, objectively speaking less than stellar. While ascii is a lowest common demonimator encoding, and alignment into columns is about as basic as you can get, the results in the registries reflect a varied history of human handling of the data - registries contain inaccuracies to be sure, but also inconsistencies and ambiguities. Perhaps to a human clent some of these may be readily resolved, but to an automated parser this stuff gets downright challenging. So in "cleaning up" a registry I am asking that some thought goes into what sort of clients out there use the registry and what form of information structuring would make the lives of the registry manager and of the clients of the registry just a little easier? Who could a registry be capable of presenting a clear and coherent view of what "is" and at the same time also be capable of presenting the set of registry actions that culminates in today's view. Maybe instead of the "one file of ascii columniated (mis)fits all" we move to something that pulls apart presentation from semantic content in these registries? But enough from me on this topic - its already off in the weeds! :-) Geoff -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Mon Jun 18 07:23:14 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0FKE-0006sV-2Z; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 07:23:14 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0FKC-0002Jm-Ff; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 07:23:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0F6w-000LyN-Qn for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:09:30 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HEADER_SPAM autolearn=no version=3.1.8 Received: from [66.92.146.160] (helo=ogud.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0F6l-000Lxb-HH for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:09:25 +0000 Received: from mail.ogud.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l5IB9Ff8020251 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 07:09:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from namedroppers@mail.ogud.com) Received: (from namedroppers@localhost) by mail.ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l5IB9Ej9020250 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 07:09:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from namedroppers) Received: from [202.12.29.58] (helo=mint.apnic.net) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I04ie-0002j8-Ie for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 00:03:50 +0000 Received: from [203.10.60.20] (dhcp20.potaroo.net [203.10.60.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mint.apnic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6A1D5F2D; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:03:40 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4675CC48.4070207@apnic.net> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:05:28 +1000 From: Geoff Huston User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton Cc: Edward Lewis , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up References: <4675A0C8.8060600@dougbarton.us> In-Reply-To: <4675A0C8.8060600@dougbarton.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 386e0819b1192672467565a524848168 [ Moderators note: Post was moderated, either because it was posted by a non-subscriber, or because it was over 20K. With the massive amount of spam, it is easy to miss and therefore delete relevant posts by non-subscribers. Please fix your subscription addresses. ] Doug Barton wrote: > Edward Lewis wrote: >> Yet another non-technical bureaucratic thread... >> >> Looking at this URL: >> >> http://www.iana.org/assignments/dns-parameters >> >> the IANA has allocated a number of RR type codes that are not documented >> in RFC documents. I don't really care much about the procedural >> problem, but imagine someone trying to implement a DNS element without >> looking at the BIND source code. > > Ed, > > I applaud your efforts in this area (both now, and in the past). It's > much needed, and very unappreciated work. > > Forgive me if this is premature, but I'd like to move toward a more > concrete recommendation for IANA, whether it would require a draft or > not. For example, for the WKS record: > > TYPE value and meaning Reference > ---------- -------------------------------------- --------- > DEPRECATED 11 Reserved, formerly WKS [IANA] [1] > > And then add a note that says something to the effect of, [1] 'All RRs > with type "DEPRECATED" are subject to reallocation if all other code > points are exhausted.' > > Donald is right in saying that we're not in any danger of running out, > but I think if we're going to clean up this space, let's make sure we > make our intentions clear to the future generations. > > If the consensus is that we will need a draft to update this stuff, > I'd be glad to assist. Doug, This example you have here is a classic example of a certain level of confusion that has been a consistent, but annoying, property of many of the IANA registries for many years, and your suggestion continues to promulgate this. There are three attributes of a registry that are of interest to clients of a registry 1 - its current contents, and 2 - the 'audit' trail of chnages over time that have lead to the the current status. 3 - the management policies of the registry I suggest that it is a lot easier for clients of a registry when these three views of the registry are clearly delineated. If a value is currently "reserved" then its "reserved". nothing more. That's view 1. If a registry code point was formerly assigned to WKS on some date and on the basis of some advice or reference, and then deprecated and the value returned to the reserved pool on some later date and upon some subsequent advice or reference then thats what you get in view 2. And the policy of managing the registration of these code points is best done as a single statement that applies to the entire registry. Thats the 3rd view of a registry. But mixing the three concepts by using registry entries such as "Reserved, formerly WKS" and adding notes to say that this code point will be reused upon the third transit of Venus during a lunar equinox ( ;-)) really only adds to the potential confusion for registry clients, rather than adding to the clarity and consistency of interpretation of the registry and its contents. 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From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Mon Jun 18 14:17:35 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0LnD-0007RH-8D; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:17:35 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0Ln8-00054H-Qr; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:17:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0LgU-0001dB-5f for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:10:38 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [192.0.34.14] (helo=smtp01.icann.org) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0LgG-0001cF-VX for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:10:32 +0000 Received: from mobile047.mdr.icann.org (mobile047.mdr.icann.org [192.0.39.47] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp01.icann.org (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l5IIAJt4022550 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:10:22 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by mobile047.mdr.icann.org (PGP Universal service); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:10:16 -0700 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by mobile047.mdr.icann.org on Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:10:16 -0700 In-Reply-To: <46760565.6070409@apnic.net> References: <4675A0C8.8060600@dougbarton.us> <4675CC48.4070207@apnic.net> <4675FDB6.9030408@dougbarton.us> <46760565.6070409@apnic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Message-Id: Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org From: David Conrad Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:10:12 -0700 To: Geoff Huston X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7d33c50f3756db14428398e2bdedd581 > The current status of the IANA registries are, objectively speaking > less than stellar. Hey! I am shocked, *shocked* to hear someone question the lack of perfection in IANA registries! :-) For what it is worth, IANA has been working on some prototype XML- ized versions of some of the registries to make them more easily parsed. We should be providing those prototypes for comment in the near future. Rgds, -drc -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Mon Jun 18 14:17:35 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0LnD-0007Rg-KP; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:17:35 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0Ln9-00054Q-Ek; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:17:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0LeJ-0001Rd-1Q for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:08:23 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [81.91.161.3] (helo=smtp.denic.de) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0Le7-0001QV-Rt for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:08:17 +0000 Received: from mail-int1.denic.de (mail-int1.denic.de [192.168.0.45]) by smtp.denic.de with esmtp id 1I0Le4-0007dp-Ot; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:08:08 +0200 Received: from localhost by mail-int1.denic.de with local id 1I0Le4-0004Yo-00; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:08:08 +0200 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:08:08 +0200 From: Peter Koch To: IETF DNSEXT WG Subject: Re: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up Message-ID: <20070618180808.GA9792@denics7.denic.de> References: <4675964A.4060503@dougbarton.us> <200706172334.l5HNY6MF018884@drugs.dv.isc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200706172334.l5HNY6MF018884@drugs.dv.isc.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 769a46790fb42fbb0b0cc700c82f7081 On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 09:34:06AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: > In general, to deprecate a type, we need several milestones. > > * notice of intention to deprecate > * notice of when all applications should cease to request type > * notice of when all nameservers should cease to load type > * notice of when type is free for re-use. [...] > For WKS we are only at step 1 or 2 depending on how you read > RFC 1123. that I doubt. RFC 1123 only deprecates use of WKS in the MX based mail routing given in RFC 974. It doesn't say anything about the applicability for other uses and does not make a recommendation w.r.t. implementation. WKS has been operationally discouraged, as probably has HINFO, but that's a different issue. > For MD and MF we are at step 3. Well, yes, but what does this mean protocol wise? Should servers just ignore MD and MF RRSets (acting as placeholders for to-be-deprecated types)? MUST they now respond NOTIMP to QTYPE=MD? This probably collides with the spirit of RFC 3597. In my reading NSAP-PTR was dropped by RFC 1637 obsoleting RFC 1348 without saying a word about NSAP-PTR. So, it might be that Ed's demands can't be satisfied by the current content of the "dns-parameters" registry. Good old RFC 2026 knows "requirements levels" at least for standards track documents. Something along that line could help to identify the right set of record types. But then, this isn't enough: what about the non-RRtype additions to STD13? Do we need EDNS0 today? Or RFC 3597 compliance? Negative caching? All PS RFCs? I've always been suspicious of RFPs, contracts or tenders that claim "DNS will be implemented according to RFC 1034 and RFC 1035", usually accompanied by some more or less arbitrary and most often incomplete list of the "relevant" RFCs. If this is a task for the WG, so be it, but that's more than "cleaning up" the IANA registry. -Peter -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Mon Jun 18 14:53:00 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0MLU-0005ri-37; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:53:00 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0MLT-0007mH-Py; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:53:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0MHE-0004dL-FV for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:48:36 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [66.92.146.160] (helo=ogud.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0MH3-0004cM-9c for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:48:31 +0000 Received: from [10.31.32.106] (hlid.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l5IImB08022336; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:48:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20070618180808.GA9792@denics7.denic.de> References: <4675964A.4060503@dougbarton.us> <200706172334.l5HNY6MF018884@drugs.dv.isc.org> <20070618180808.GA9792@denics7.denic.de> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:39:32 -0400 To: Peter Koch From: Edward Lewis Subject: Re: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up Cc: IETF DNSEXT WG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b19722fc8d3865b147c75ae2495625f2 At 20:08 +0200 6/18/07, Peter Koch wrote: >I've always been suspicious of RFPs, contracts or tenders that claim >"DNS will be implemented according to RFC 1034 and RFC 1035", usually >accompanied by some more or less arbitrary and most often incomplete >list of the "relevant" RFCs. If this is a task for the WG, so be it, >but that's more than "cleaning up" the IANA registry. What I find even harder to deal with are RFPs in which the respondent is asked to supply information about the DNS standards they support, etc. (I'm paraphrasing.) The open ended question is a pain because there isn't an really pat answer. As far as "first steps" I have sent a request into IANA to see if some changes can be made under the banner of "editorial fixes to the web page." Sooner or later a draft will emerge for comments, the goal of which is to ask IANA to update the registrations "in place." We have other things looking at broader changes to the IANA registry for DNS (2929bis), and I believe later we can try to the question of whether we ought to really deprecate something (as opposed to let it lie in it's lamentable but implementable state). -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar Sarcasm doesn't scale. -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From sisonville@chello.nl Mon Jun 18 15:45:45 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0NAX-0003lw-0m for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:45:45 -0400 Received: from [77.248.226.215] (helo=tjebbe-ka04ze6q.arnhem.chello.nl) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0NAU-0003yl-GJ for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:45:44 -0400 Message-ID: <001001c7b1f2$0a785a10$0604030c@tjebbeka04ze6q> From: "Cole Barlow" To: "dnsext-archive" Subject: It bowerston in mappsville Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:45:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.1158 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: 79899194edc4f33a41f49410777972f8 Investors' Agressive Alert! 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From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Mon Jun 18 19:02:03 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0QEV-00007d-Aq; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:02:03 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0QEU-0001rq-Tk; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:02:03 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0Q6Y-0000sG-HK for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:53:50 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [204.152.184.167] (helo=mx.isc.org) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0Q6N-0000rk-5A for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:53:44 +0000 Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb::5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "farside.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by mx.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77C9114021 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:53:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost.isc.org [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "drugs.dv.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FEAE6095 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l5IMrUUt068364; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:53:30 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from marka@drugs.dv.isc.org) Message-Id: <200706182253.l5IMrUUt068364@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: Peter Koch Cc: IETF DNSEXT WG From: Mark Andrews Subject: Re: First steps...Re: IANA type code registration clean up In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:08:08 +0200." <20070618180808.GA9792@denics7.denic.de> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:53:30 +1000 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c0bedb65cce30976f0bf60a0a39edea4 > On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 09:34:06AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > In general, to deprecate a type, we need several milestones. > > > > * notice of intention to deprecate > > * notice of when all applications should cease to request type > > * notice of when all nameservers should cease to load type > > * notice of when type is free for re-use. > [...] > > For WKS we are only at step 1 or 2 depending on how you read > > RFC 1123. > > that I doubt. RFC 1123 only deprecates use of WKS in the MX based mail routin > g > given in RFC 974. It doesn't say anything about the applicability for > other uses and does not make a recommendation w.r.t. implementation. > WKS has been operationally discouraged, as probably has HINFO, but that's > a different issue. No. There is a general deprecation in Sections 2.2 "Using Domain Name Service". > > For MD and MF we are at step 3. > > Well, yes, but what does this mean protocol wise? Should servers just > ignore MD and MF RRSets (acting as placeholders for to-be-deprecated types)? > MUST they now respond NOTIMP to QTYPE=MD? This probably collides with the > spirit of RFC 3597. > > In my reading NSAP-PTR was dropped by RFC 1637 obsoleting RFC 1348 > without saying a word about NSAP-PTR. > > So, it might be that Ed's demands can't be satisfied by the current > content of the "dns-parameters" registry. Good old RFC 2026 knows > "requirements levels" at least for standards track documents. > Something along that line could help to identify the right set of > record types. But then, this isn't enough: what about the non-RRtype > additions to STD13? Do we need EDNS0 today? Or RFC 3597 compliance? > Negative caching? All PS RFCs? > > I've always been suspicious of RFPs, contracts or tenders that claim > "DNS will be implemented according to RFC 1034 and RFC 1035", usually > accompanied by some more or less arbitrary and most often incomplete > list of the "relevant" RFCs. If this is a task for the WG, so be it, > but that's more than "cleaning up" the IANA registry. Agreed we need some profile documents which describe which parts of which RFCs need to be implemented in a modern nameserver and client. > -Peter > > -- > to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with > the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. > archive: -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From qqbp@eotek.com Mon Jun 18 19:25:34 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0QbG-0004lF-2Z for dnsext-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:25:34 -0400 Received: from r026a.r.pppool.de ([89.54.2.106]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0QbE-00073B-34 for dnsext-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:25:34 -0400 Received: from dtaxk ([66.147.181.188]) by R026a.r.pppool.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:25:29 +0200 Message-ID: <46771469.1040108@eotek.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:25:29 +0200 From: Hull O. 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From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Mon Jun 18 20:51:27 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0RwN-0007B7-96; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:51:27 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0RwL-0003Tk-W1; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:51:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0Rpf-0007KP-GZ for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:44:31 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [204.14.89.4] (helo=mail2.fluidhosting.com) by psg.com with smtp (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0RpU-0007Jt-JX for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:44:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 22236 invoked by uid 399); 18 Jun 2007 23:44:19 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.5?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Jun 2007 23:44:19 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 Message-ID: <467718D0.1050703@dougbarton.us> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:44:16 -0700 From: Doug Barton User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Geoff Huston CC: Edward Lewis , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up References: <4675A0C8.8060600@dougbarton.us> <4675CC48.4070207@apnic.net> <4675FDB6.9030408@dougbarton.us> <46760565.6070409@apnic.net> In-Reply-To: <46760565.6070409@apnic.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab Geoff Huston wrote: > We digress from the namedroppers charter, so I'll answer just once, and > then take the conversation away from this list, as for many this is > getting well off topic. Geoff, Thanks for confirming that it was this particular windmill you were tilting at. While I look forward to seeing David's XML prototype, given the _current_ state of the registry, my suggestion stands for the group to evaluate. Doug -- If you're never wrong, you're not trying hard enough -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Mon Jun 18 21:28:05 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0SVp-0002sb-0c; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:28:05 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0SVo-0001SP-Hf; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:28:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0SRB-0009RH-Kd for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:23:17 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [204.14.89.4] (helo=mail2.fluidhosting.com) by psg.com with smtp (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0SR0-0009QA-FK for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:23:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 8180 invoked by uid 399); 18 Jun 2007 03:36:24 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO lap.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Jun 2007 03:36:24 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 Message-ID: <4675FDB6.9030408@dougbarton.us> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 20:36:22 -0700 From: Doug Barton User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070617) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Geoff Huston CC: Edward Lewis , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up References: <4675A0C8.8060600@dougbarton.us> <4675CC48.4070207@apnic.net> In-Reply-To: <4675CC48.4070207@apnic.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 093efd19b5f651b2707595638f6c4003 Geoff Huston wrote: > > > Doug Barton wrote: >> Forgive me if this is premature, but I'd like to move toward a more >> concrete recommendation for IANA, whether it would require a draft or >> not. For example, for the WKS record: >> >> TYPE value and meaning Reference >> ---------- -------------------------------------- --------- >> DEPRECATED 11 Reserved, formerly WKS [IANA] [1] >> >> And then add a note that says something to the effect of, [1] 'All RRs >> with type "DEPRECATED" are subject to reallocation if all other code >> points are exhausted.' >> >> Donald is right in saying that we're not in any danger of running out, >> but I think if we're going to clean up this space, let's make sure we >> make our intentions clear to the future generations. >> >> If the consensus is that we will need a draft to update this stuff, >> I'd be glad to assist. > > Doug, > > This example you have here is a classic example of a certain level of > confusion that has been a consistent, but annoying, property of many of > the IANA registries for many years, and your suggestion continues to > promulgate this. > > There are three attributes of a registry that are of interest to clients > of a registry > > 1 - its current contents, and > > 2 - the 'audit' trail of chnages over time that have lead to the the > current status. > > 3 - the management policies of the registry > > I suggest that it is a lot easier for clients of a registry when these > three views of the registry are clearly delineated. Geoff, That's a very interesting perspective, do you think that you could expand a little on why you think this is true? > If a value is currently "reserved" then its "reserved". nothing more. > That's view 1. For the particular snapshot in time that a person might view the web page that is the registry, yes, I agree with you. > If a registry code point was formerly assigned to WKS on some date and > on the basis of some advice or reference, and then deprecated and the > value returned to the reserved pool on some later date and upon some > subsequent advice or reference then thats what you get in view 2. Well, you've sort of said, "The sky is blue" here, which is of course correct, but not very interesting. :) At some point in the future when we have a reliable method of tracking "what used to be" then I think what you're trying to say will be the right way to do things; which is a clear separation between the current contents of the registry at this moment in time, and what used to be the content of the registry at some point in the past. Unfortunately, right now we don't have that. (Yes, I realize that there are ideas about how to get it, some of them are even my ideas, but we don't have it right now.) Therefore, I think it's perfectly reasonable to mention that in the "recent" past (even if we accept Mark's definition of 10 years as "recent"), there was a thing that used this code point. That's beneficial not only for the person who's spelunking in existing code so that they can know what the heck that weird QTYPE 11 is that they've never heard of or seen on the wire, it's also useful for the developer of some future project that thinks 11 is the PERFECT number for his new QTYPE, and doesn't see any reason not to use it from the current content of the registry. This BTW is not a theoretical issue, it's something that has bitten me before, and I know I'm not alone. At some future time when it's trivial for an implementor to discover what used to be, then by all means let's have those clear bright lines that you're talking about. But until then, my vote is that we err on the side of utility rather than theoretical perfection. > And the policy of managing the registration of these code points is best > done as a single statement that applies to the entire registry. Thats > the 3rd view of a registry. I think my suggested text pretty clearly does that. "All such things that are X are subject to the following conditions." It's pretty pointless to suggest that a policy regarding REuse of a code point apply to code points that have never been allocated, or that are currently allocated. > But mixing the three concepts by using registry entries such as > "Reserved, formerly WKS" and adding notes to say that this code point > will be reused upon the third transit of Venus during a lunar equinox ( > ;-)) really only adds to the potential confusion for registry clients, > rather than adding to the clarity and consistency of interpretation of > the registry and its contents. I certainly hear the passion in your voice, but I am sorry to say I don't agree with you. If I saw a statement that said something was subject to reuse at some point in the future, I am pretty sure I know how I'd handle that information in relation to any application I might want to develop in that space. However, like I said at the outset, I'm willing to be convinced otherwise. Doug PS, it should go without saying that I am not speaking here for any current or former employers, just stating my personal opinion. -- If you're never wrong, you're not trying hard enough -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Mon Jun 18 22:04:30 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0T54-00024L-7F; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:04:30 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0T52-00013N-TK; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:04:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0Syt-000BZg-Gl for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:58:07 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [204.152.184.167] (helo=mx.isc.org) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0Syi-000BYp-R3 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:58:02 +0000 Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb::5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "farside.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by mx.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5415F114021 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:57:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost.isc.org [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "drugs.dv.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1764E6099 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:57:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l5J1vdQY016188; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:57:39 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from marka@drugs.dv.isc.org) Message-Id: <200706190157.l5J1vdQY016188@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: Doug Barton Cc: Geoff Huston , Edward Lewis , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org From: Mark Andrews Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 17 Jun 2007 20:36:22 MST." <4675FDB6.9030408@dougbarton.us> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:57:39 +1000 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 21c69d3cfc2dd19218717dbe1d974352 Just for a data point. BIND 9 refuses to load MD and MF when the server is a master. We also refuse to add MD and MF records via UPDATE. We will however serve them from a slave server and when acting as a caching server. At some point we will remove this code and the code display and parse MD and MF records. Having a date when this should be done would be useful. Mark /* * RFC1123: MD and MF are not allowed to be loaded from * master files. */ if ((lctx->options & DNS_MASTER_ZONE) != 0 && (lctx->options & DNS_MASTER_SLAVE) == 0 && (type == dns_rdatatype_md || type == dns_rdatatype_mf)) { char typename[DNS_RDATATYPE_FORMATSIZE]; result = DNS_R_OBSOLETE; dns_rdatatype_format(type, typename, sizeof(typename)); (*callbacks->error)(callbacks, "%s:%lu: %s '%s': %s", source, line, "type", typename, dns_result_totext(result)); if (MANYERRS(lctx, result)) { SETRESULT(lctx, result); } else goto insist_and_cleanup; } -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From marlyraiu@awzone.com Mon Jun 18 23:05:23 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0U1z-0000U7-0E; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:05:23 -0400 Received: from [123.56.91.63] (helo=awzone.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0U19-0005jT-M1; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:05:22 -0400 Message-ID: <317401c7b214$309f1310$86df34aa@marlyraiu> Reply-To: "Zofia" From: "Zofia" To: "Lawerence" Cc: "Gloria" , "Vesta" , "Sadye Coleman" , "Weldon" Subject: U know what i think Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:50:18 -0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_8E3_0468_3F90B0A5.AE1BB534" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 3.0 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: ec7c6dab5a62df223002ae71b5179d41 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_8E3_0468_3F90B0A5.AE1BB534 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_7D3_14EC_7D1F5C6C.5DDBBF92" ------=_NextPart_7D3_14EC_7D1F5C6C.5DDBBF92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable in to -- Would rode record star I make money cow by it? 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X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [66.92.146.160] (helo=ogud.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0UFy-000GED-Qi for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 03:19:56 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (hlid.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by ogud.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l5J3Jaat024807; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:19:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200706190157.l5J1vdQY016188@drugs.dv.isc.org> References: <200706190157.l5J1vdQY016188@drugs.dv.isc.org> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:16:54 -0400 To: Mark Andrews From: Edward Lewis Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up Cc: Doug Barton , Geoff Huston , Edward Lewis , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 Just curious, as a measure of how the specs drive use and vice versa, has anyone/how many have complained that these types are not currently supported in your code? (Asking about the "at some point we will" comment.) At 11:57 +1000 6/19/07, Mark Andrews wrote: ... > At some point we will remove this code and the code display and > parse MD and MF records. Having a date when this should be done > would be useful. > > Mark > -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar Sarcasm doesn't scale. -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Mon Jun 18 23:44:42 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0Ue2-00080m-7Y; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:44:42 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0Ue0-0000rN-UH; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:44:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0UZR-000HLH-Gr for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 03:39:57 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [204.152.184.167] (helo=mx.isc.org) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0UZG-000HKk-P3 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 03:39:52 +0000 Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb::5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "farside.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by mx.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C6211401F for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 03:39:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost.isc.org [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "drugs.dv.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C656FE6095 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 03:39:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l5J3dXxf062319; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:39:34 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from marka@drugs.dv.isc.org) Message-Id: <200706190339.l5J3dXxf062319@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: Edward Lewis Cc: Doug Barton , Geoff Huston , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org From: Mark Andrews Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:16:54 -0400." Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:39:33 +1000 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 97adf591118a232206bdb5a27b217034 > Just curious, as a measure of how the specs drive use and vice versa, > has anyone/how many have complained that these types are not > currently supported in your code? (Asking about the "at some point > we will" comment.) We had one because we wern't rejecting them. None as far as I can see for rejecting them. > At 11:57 +1000 6/19/07, Mark Andrews wrote: > > ... > > > At some point we will remove this code and the code display and > > parse MD and MF records. Having a date when this should be done > > would be useful. > > > > Mark > > > -- > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 > NeuStar > > Sarcasm doesn't scale. -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Tue Jun 19 00:50:42 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0Vfu-00049G-F5; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:50:42 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0Vfr-00048R-TW; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:50:42 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0VY2-0001Rh-R5 for namedroppers-data@psg.com; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:42:34 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from [204.152.184.167] (helo=mx.isc.org) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I0VXs-0001RH-1H for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:42:29 +0000 Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb::5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "farside.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by mx.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A8411401F for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:42:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost.isc.org [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "drugs.dv.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121A3E6095 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:42:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l5J4g5mT062695; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:42:05 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from marka@drugs.dv.isc.org) Message-Id: <200706190442.l5J4g5mT062695@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: bmanning@karoshi.com Cc: Edward Lewis , Doug Barton , Geoff Huston , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org From: Mark Andrews Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:16:36 GMT." <20070619041636.GA23873@vacation.karoshi.com.> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:42:05 +1000 Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7d33c50f3756db14428398e2bdedd581 > well, BIND did deprecate A6 support - even though the spec was moved > to experimental and not depecated... effectively killing it. > > --bill The type is still there. You can still load it. Named just doesn't use it for looking up nameservers addresses. i.e. we are not part of the experiment other than allowing the record to be loaded. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From paix@flash.net Tue Jun 19 08:46:15 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0d67-0003Ir-Fw for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:46:15 -0400 Received: from [217.78.185.189] (helo=qpcvxpf) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0d65-0005zk-H0 for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:46:15 -0400 Received: from sbbz ([113.95.156.226]) by qpcvxpf (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id l5JCoIbc018531; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:50:18 +0400 Message-ID: <001d01c7b26f$dce297e0$e29c5f71@sbbz> From: "Malcolm" To: Subject: microphone beware Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:46:32 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C7B291.63F08E60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Spam-Score: 3.3 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: c2e58d9873012c90703822e287241385 ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C7B291.63F08E60 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001A_01C7B291.63F178C0" ------=_NextPart_001_001A_01C7B291.63F178C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Snatch the kettlebell. 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Do not pull with your biceps, use your = upper back=20 and momentum instead. Last year, I had the opportunity to help get my = kids school=20 website up and going and jumped at the chance.
com and watched various Kettlebell = clips but I just=20 can't seem to find a definitive answer to proper knee positioning. Which = of these is=20 the proper form?
- Once you're standing, reverse the = process to end=20 up back on the floor on your back.
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(helo=vacation.karoshi.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1I1DZW-0008tD-U0 for namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:43:13 +0000 Received: from karoshi.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by vacation.karoshi.com. (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id l5J4GanC023891; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:16:36 GMT Received: (from bmanning@localhost) by karoshi.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id l5J4GaYr023890; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:16:36 GMT Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:16:36 +0000 From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com To: Edward Lewis Cc: Mark Andrews , Doug Barton , Geoff Huston , namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up Message-ID: <20070619041636.GA23873@vacation.karoshi.com.> References: <200706190157.l5J1vdQY016188@drugs.dv.isc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8b30eb7682a596edff707698f4a80f7d well, BIND did deprecate A6 support - even though the spec was moved to experimental and not depecated... effectively killing it. --bill On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 11:16:54PM -0400, Edward Lewis wrote: > Just curious, as a measure of how the specs drive use and vice versa, > has anyone/how many have complained that these types are not > currently supported in your code? (Asking about the "at some point > we will" comment.) > > At 11:57 +1000 6/19/07, Mark Andrews wrote: > > ... > > > At some point we will remove this code and the code display and > > parse MD and MF records. Having a date when this should be done > > would be useful. > > > > Mark > > > -- > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 > NeuStar > > Sarcasm doesn't scale. > > -- > to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with > the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. > archive: -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From terryhillfjev@austral-insulation.com.au Thu Jun 21 03:31:56 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1H92-0000Yx-OR; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:31:56 -0400 Received: from [61.166.24.124] (helo=austral-insulation.com.au) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1H8w-0001pU-94; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:31:56 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Idalia Robertson" To: "Alycia" Cc: "Naomi Lewis" , "Lorinda Daniels" , "Holly" , "Nichole" , "Jay" , "Alisha Lawson" , "Monroe" , "Augustina Mitchell" , "Nelle" , "Reva" , "Jina" Subject: What are your thoughts Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:31:18 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_CB7_2FD8_B623A09C.FC4375A8" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Scan-Signature: 96e0f8497f38c15fbfc8f6f315bcdecb This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_CB7_2FD8_B623A09C.FC4375A8 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_62D_51E9_B2CE4511.EB8C1C3B" ------=_NextPart_62D_51E9_B2CE4511.EB8C1C3B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It had been very difficult to trace her out where she came from or dry fo= r that matter star fierce where stitch she went. 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Stephanie User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org Subject: Please be careful when disposing of documents. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 4.3 (++++) X-Scan-Signature: a87a9cdae4ac5d3fbeee75cd0026d632 Frenzy Pushes SREA Up 46.6% Score One Inc. (SREA) $0.44 UP 46.6% SREA is in a frenzy as investor buying pushed it Up over 46% by close Wed. Up 427% in just over a week. Get all over SREA Thursday! But his lyrics on Slim Shady LP is why people think he is one of the best rappers around. Not your company - you personally! bottom line they just want to sell records. Whichever one you took you would ultimately end up the same. Do we need Work Permits and Proof of Age? Unfortunately many businesses do not survive disasters. 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Most women, too, experience some degree = of hair=20 loss as they grow older. Stress may literally be making you pull your = hair=20 out.
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Keep up the great work! Ask your doctor = for more=20 information about treating female balding with this drug.
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It enhances the effects of selenium, = and enhances=20 some chemotherapies, radiotherapy, and hyperthermia. That's how = pervasive it is=20 through at least parts of the Asian community.
Moreover, you're likely to lose hair = faster if your=20 hair follicles become inflamed or if you get skin disorders that affect = your=20 scalp.
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What is most troubling is not that the = plaintiffs'=20 arguments lack legal heft but that they no doubt realize this, yet argue = anyway. "=20 The fight we must win is the fight to bring this future close enough to = save=20 ourselves from suffering and death by aging. htmlKevin Perrott is a = touch less=20 charitable than I was in response to the Longevity Dividend = announcement: "Now. Many=20 of these changes are exacerbated by or even caused by chronic T cell = stimulation by=20 persistent antigen .
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As nearly every man will experience a = problem with=20 their prostate, we're very excited about the impact our research will = have. Some=20 individuals might conclude they are too old to benefit from the = technology.=20 Exercisers have more genes switched on that control enzymes that allow = muscles to=20 burn more fat. Experts have since been playing with the idea that damage = to the=20 small vessels in the kidney and brain as a result of high blood pressure = are=20 responsible for these connections. The team discovered that the tooth = germ can be=20 turned into bone, nerves or liver cells by stimulating it with hormones. = "Yale=20 biomedical engineers have created an implantable system that can form = and stabilize=20 a functional network of fine blood vessels critical for supporting = tissues in the=20 body . Mouse models either lacking or overexpressing telomerase support = the notion=20 that short telomeres cause premature aging.
Vintage cars die because people don't = care about=20 them. It is even more disappointing to not even have Aubrey de Grey = mentioned=20 although it is virtually certain that without his sabre-rattling we = would not be=20 reading even this meager pronouncement.
Deciphering the biological mystery of = aging is=20 essential if we're to discover ways to prevent and treat diseases such = as=20 Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, cancer and arthritis.
ROS leakage is so low in pigeons that = they can=20 afford to have much lower antioxidant levels than rats, and still live = longer. It=20 suggests that very tight control of blood pressure throughout life is a = major=20 determinant of longevity.
It has been a long fight to get them to = this point,=20 all the way from their prior reluctance to engage on the topic at = all.
The engine of progress will come to a = halt, and we=20 will all age, suffer and die within an uncaring system that has no = reason to=20 improve. Exercisers have more genes switched on that control enzymes = that allow=20 muscles to burn more fat.
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Gabriel User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dnsext-archive@ietf.org Subject: bookworm providence Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 4.4 (++++) X-Scan-Signature: 2857c5c041d6c02d7181d602c22822c8 SREA Acquires $75 Million Dollar Asset! Score One Inc.(SREA) $0.30 News hit just after close. SREA has acquired the $75 Million peace of land for the new "Recreation Town" in Dalian. This new project mimics a Facility in "Shui On" that profited more than $100 Million USD. SREA is going to go through the roof after this hits investors this weekend. Get on SREA at open on Monday! Then Robin called and he had to interrupt. There was a new clip from ''Cops'' that he could play. Howard said he doesn't understand this at all because he's never rubbed in the bed like that. JD came in and said that she was no less of a whore than Tabitha Stevens was. You can find out more about that at HowardStern. He tells her that over and over again but she still makes him go through the test. Robin said that Howard seems to be much happier now and hearing that old stuff was just boring. Eric said ''Whatever I could. He doesn't think it had anything to do with the racing but the guy was jealous of Robin for the longest time. Howard said that Sanjaya even says that he's not a musician, he's an entertainer. He doesn't think it had anything to do with the racing but the guy was jealous of Robin for the longest time. '' He also read that Kim is claiming that she didn't leak the phone calls to the press. Artie said he's kind of upset about that because he was a great guy and he loved hanging out with him. Howard asked Jeff if he's got a nicer trailer than she does. He was interested in seeing some cum filled young chicks, some black and white chick movies and some other various things. Robin said it's going to be a while before she gets back into a relationship. Artie called him ''Eric the Shitty Comedian'' and shot back at him about the A's sucking too. Howard said that was pretty funny. Then Robin called and he had to interrupt. He found out that Eric lays on his stomach when he does it. He figured there had to be a better way to do it than that. Howard said that Beth actually flew out there with Billy's wife on their private jet. Gary told Artie that he got a copy of his movie and thought it was very funny. Robin said Howard's call got to the point of ''Wah! He said that he rubs up against his bed when he does that. She said he just launched himself out of there as soon as she called in. Howard wondered who Scott is to be giving those opinions on global warming. Howard told Scott to stop and that it was enough already. Howard said that's his kind of guy. X hadn't been around but he assumed that Robin would tell him if that was true. 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Robin said he's trying to get invited so that they won't go. X was singing ''All By Myself. They were going to take some time off because they had been together for so long. The guys talked about this week's episode of The Sopranos for a few seconds. He read through some of that. Gary wasn't fooled, he knew it wasn't robin. He took another call from a guy who asked Robin if she and George Lucas have anything going on. Howard asked Eric if he beats off into a bunch of tissues or something. Howard was still upset that Robin told Bubba about the breakup before she told him. After the prank call Howard did a female voice and had Gary thinking that he was talking to Robin again. Those are two things he did and he went around and looked at the different hotels in Vegas. He wants to explore the whole entertainment business. X very much but there was one time when Robin took them all out to dinner and Mr. While he was talking about that he said that he had to jerk off since Beth was away. Howard said he doesn't understand this at all because he's never rubbed in the bed like that. Artie told Eric he sounded like the biggest fuckin' geek in those clips. Gary was saying that he can have sex and he knows what to do. Howard told Scott to stop and that it was enough already. 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Message-ID: <198A730C2044DE4A96749D13E167AD37012F649F@MOU1WNEXMB04.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> In-Reply-To: <4675A0C8.8060600@dougbarton.us> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: IANA type code registration clean up Thread-Index: AcexMvVjvtlhpigLSLO2Mz9GqiSsiQGEqv4A From: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" To: "Doug Barton" , "Edward Lewis" Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jun 2007 16:34:52.0886 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1B5CF60:01C7B746] Sender: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-id: DNSEXT discussion X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d185fa790257f526fedfd5d01ed9c976 I suggest that instead of saying WKS is depricated it states that WKS is = depricated in favor of something else. In the case of WKS the original service point is effectively replaced by = the SRV record. On the reclamation issue, I really think we should design the DNS so = that we never come close to exhaustion. We should only assign RRs to = support new infrastructure capabilities, not individual protocols. =20 So a new RR for describing protocol policy would be acceptable. A new RR = for describing policy for protocol foo would not be. The reason to do reclamation is to look to see if there are features = that we should explicitly drop from the DNS protocol and to advise that = servers NOT present as preferred options. WKS is a good candidate there = as the specification is so limited in scope. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org=20 > [mailto:owner-namedroppers@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Doug Barton > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 5:00 PM > To: Edward Lewis > Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org > Subject: Re: IANA type code registration clean up >=20 > Edward Lewis wrote: > > Yet another non-technical bureaucratic thread... > >=20 > > Looking at this URL: > >=20 > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/dns-parameters > >=20 > > the IANA has allocated a number of RR type codes that are not=20 > > documented in RFC documents. I don't really care much about the=20 > > procedural problem, but imagine someone trying to implement a DNS=20 > > element without looking at the BIND source code. >=20 > Ed, >=20 > I applaud your efforts in this area (both now, and in the=20 > past). It's much needed, and very unappreciated work. >=20 > Forgive me if this is premature, but I'd like to move toward=20 > a more concrete recommendation for IANA, whether it would=20 > require a draft or not. For example, for the WKS record: >=20 > TYPE value and meaning Reference > ---------- -------------------------------------- --------- > DEPRECATED 11 Reserved, formerly WKS [IANA] [1] >=20 > And then add a note that says something to the effect of, [1]=20 > 'All RRs with type "DEPRECATED" are subject to reallocation=20 > if all other code points are exhausted.' >=20 > Donald is right in saying that we're not in any danger of=20 > running out, but I think if we're going to clean up this=20 > space, let's make sure we make our intentions clear to the=20 > future generations. >=20 > If the consensus is that we will need a draft to update this=20 > stuff, I'd be glad to assist. >=20 > Doug >=20 > --=20 >=20 > If you're never wrong, you're not trying hard enough >=20 > -- > to unsubscribe send a message to=20 > namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe'=20 > in a single line as the message text body. > archive: >=20 -- to unsubscribe send a message to namedroppers-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From bpybs@bluewin.ch Mon Jun 25 14:13:47 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I2t4N-0002tA-TP for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:13:47 -0400 Received: from dxb-as48292.alshamil.net.ae ([217.165.63.32]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I2t4H-0002OR-Lw for dnsext-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:13:47 -0400 Received: from [30.104.91.185] (helo=fvt) by dxb-as48292.alshamil.net.ae with smtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) id 1I33O8-0004Kj-8n; Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:14:41 -0700 Message-ID: <002301c7b7b0$bd2febf0$b95b681e@fvt> From: "Meggy H. Livingston" To: Subject: overpopulation swam Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:13:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01C7B776.10CD6A70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Spam-Score: 2.8 (++) X-Scan-Signature: 1c0c3d540ad9f95212b1c2a9a2cc2595 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C7B776.10CD6A70 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0020_01C7B776.10CE54D0" ------=_NextPart_001_0020_01C7B776.10CE54D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In fact, this legislation would only offer the possibility of reducing = sentences if the judge finds that the defendant is not mentally mature. = We have today and possibly tomorrow morning to sell these ones that are = supplied at that price" he said. 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Moreover, there is no reason why the = detainees who=20 have been cleared for release or transfer cannot be repatriated from the = United=20 States, rather than from Guantanamo. The AIHRC also reported that = Iranian=20 authorities are responsible for the deaths of at least six = Afghans.
Smithsburg grad looks to sky as he = heads to Naval=20 Academy Home :: Web Directory :: footballdaily News :: Free RSS news :: = Free=20 Newsletter :: Tell a Friend Clientfinder.
Manicaland province governor Tineyi = Chigudu was=20 quoted lashing out at the WFP's implementing partners for working "in = cahoots" with=20 the MDC.
Scholarship set up for HHS students = Home :: Web=20 Directory :: footballdaily News :: Free RSS news :: Free Newsletter :: = Tell a Friend=20 Clientfinder. Need some ideas on what to do for your dad in Houston? = This use of=20 child soldiers is a particularly horrific crime. "To the best of our = knowledge,=20 there are no non-governmental organisations that seek to buttress = opposition=20 politics. "It is not even true to say that we will only start starving = by July. The=20 Universal Periodic Review is the greatest innovation within the council, = and=20 provides a welcome opportunity to address human rights abuses wherever = they occur.=20 The paper argues that setting aside human rights in the name of security = is not only=20 illegal under international law, but also counterproductive. intranet, = portal or=20 online property a trusted, high-traffic destination by integrating news, = weather,=20 horoscopes and other content.
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The Islamic Penal Code of Iran allows = for the=20 punishment of death by stoning for crimes of adultery. Smithsburg grad = looks to sky=20 as he heads to Naval Academy Home :: Web Directory :: footballdaily News = :: Free RSS=20 news :: Free Newsletter :: Tell a Friend Clientfinder. Even the = Judiciary has=20 admitted that these students had nothing to do with the forged=20 publications.
Pupils are staying away from school = because of=20 this," a primary school teacher in Masvingo province told = IPS.
Despite that opportunity for further = review, the=20 council bowed to political pressure by eliminating two country experts = immediately,=20 those for Belarus and Cuba. Washington Zhakata, the coordinator of the = office, said=20 a number of factors linked to global warming are affecting the = country.
However, Iran must also move quickly to = remove=20 stoning as a form of punishment from its laws, in order to comply with = its=20 international obligations. "To the best of our knowledge, there are = no=20 non-governmental organisations that seek to buttress opposition=20 politics.
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That was Australian David Hicks, who = received a=20 nine-month sentence that he is serving at home.
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What is CIALIS?

CIALIS is the only ED (Erectile Disfunction) tablet clinically proven to work both
up to 36 hours and in as fast as 30 minutes. And because CIALIS has an extended
period of effectiveness, you don’t have the pressure to perform within a few hours.
You and your partner can relax and take your time choosing the moment that is right for both of you.

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  • Works up to 36 hours
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You have a heart of gold, he s Madelyne was in complete agree They made camp almost four hou Duncan left her by a stream he From jniz@dpnett.no Sat Jun 30 13:26:21 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I4giD-00010M-Cr for dnsext-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:26:21 -0400 Received: from che87.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl ([83.31.2.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I4gh4-0004vp-P3 for dnsext-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:26:21 -0400 Received: (qmail 4725 invoked from network); Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:25:12 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO vxi) (197.191.187.158) by che87.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl with SMTP; Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:25:12 +0200 Message-ID: <468691F8.2050108@dpnett.no> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:25:12 +0200 From: Woodruff Susanna User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dnsext-archive@ietf.org Subject: span retire Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Scan-Signature: 36c793b20164cfe75332aa66ddb21196 ERMX Jumps Into Huge Advanced Nitride Super Conductors! EntreMetrix Inc. (ERMX) $0.16 ERMX has just announced it involvement in a joint venture to manufacture Advanced Nitride Devices. These have Military application as well as Energy Super Conductors. This takes ERMX to a whole new level. Google "Nitride Devices" and get on ERMX first thing Monday! FitOff allows you to track your daily exercise, awarding Fitness and Activity points based on how long and what you did. Even better there's a nice whistling line you're going to find it hard to forget, and not to imitate! And I don't mean just a little better than the rest I mean their the only bits. I'm a bit disappointed by my position - I thought I'd be higher. I haven't looked at it yet - but the concept is very interesting. These tiny little guys provide decent processing power, battery life, and a whole host of opportunities for you. A fitness point roughly translates into a calorie, while an activity point allows you to compare your exercise to anyone else on the site. It was a waste of time, useless, undesirable movie that just isn't worth seeing. With a learning Bayesian filter this has the ability to grow with spam challenges. FitOff allows you to track your daily exercise, awarding Fitness and Activity points based on how long and what you did. FitOff allows you to track your daily exercise, awarding Fitness and Activity points based on how long and what you did. It's got to the point where if someone trailing me on the board passes me I'll go out and climb a few flights of stairs to try and regain my position. Don't expect anything but fun from this movie - sit down and enjoy. These tiny little guys provide decent processing power, battery life, and a whole host of opportunities for you. I cannot stand the concept of ads on something I paid for - but worse to lock the disc so you can't escape it. This has certainly damaged their image in my eyes. People die - which was a bit surprising given we're used to everyone miraculously surviving, but still we have a love interest, some sort fighting, some despair, some history. Of course there are far more french wines that I'm willing to drink than movies I'm willing to watch - but lets not ruin the plan here. It's very easy drinking - I'm talking a case easy drinking. You heard me uber cool. You can't help but tap your feet and chuckle. I'm a bit disappointed by my position - I thought I'd be higher. Great for getting that document to someone without physically delivering it. With it's slow progression you feel like you're being pushed along by the ebbs and whorls of a river on a summer's day. It's a movie about a big, but somewhat insular family and their flaws. But let us say this: it rocked. This has certainly damaged their image in my eyes. For a small cost you can get way more information on who is at an IP and where they are located. Still this excellent red wine is made through an entirely organic process. It was a waste of time, useless, undesirable movie that just isn't worth seeing. You may find the beginning and some scenes surprisingly gory, but wait it out - it's really not about the gore. The amusing preview you may or may not have seen are the best bits. You may find the beginning and some scenes surprisingly gory, but wait it out - it's really not about the gore. With it's slow progression you feel like you're being pushed along by the ebbs and whorls of a river on a summer's day. Well that's inexcusable. Gotta run - it'll increase my score! Don't expect anything but fun from this movie - sit down and enjoy. I guess I'm kind of hoping that people's interest wanes a little so I can get ahead - that's probably wrong of me isn't it? I know I'll take flack for it - but I liked it. On the last page of the review you'll find an original Gameboy handheld modified to contain the computer - think about were you'll be able to hide CPUS! A fitness point roughly translates into a calorie, while an activity point allows you to compare your exercise to anyone else on the site. You can't help but tap your feet and chuckle. I guess I'm kind of hoping that people's interest wanes a little so I can get ahead - that's probably wrong of me isn't it? You just don't want it to end. You can't help but tap your feet and chuckle. I think it might make the "always consider buying" list! Apparently frogs are very susceptible to environmental damage. Don't expect anything but fun from this movie - sit down and enjoy. Of course there are far more french wines that I'm willing to drink than movies I'm willing to watch - but lets not ruin the plan here. I need all the preservatives I can get. I'm a bit disappointed by my position - I thought I'd be higher. That being said - it's almost worth the "wine list" price - this spectacular, smooth, red is great for any occasion - I enjoy it with barbecue, steak, stews and in a glass. For a small cost you can get way more information on who is at an IP and where they are located. With a learning Bayesian filter this has the ability to grow with spam challenges. they're all likable and dis-likable! I guess I'm kind of hoping that people's interest wanes a little so I can get ahead - that's probably wrong of me isn't it? I'm thinking this would be excellent for robotics, installation art, making a artistic computers, and comically misplacing. 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