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* John Levine [2013-07-01 04:13]:
> Does anyone publish DNS records with deliberately broken DNSSEC so we
> can test that our DNSSEC-aware clients don't resolve them?

A records with broken DNSSEC:
dnssec-failed.org.
sigfail.verteiltesysteme.net.

Broken signatures over SOA but (currently?) without A record:
servfail.nl.
rhybar.cz.

Excellent reference with a lot of more examples:
http://dnssec-tools.org/testzone/index.html

Test websites which show result to the user:
http://www.dnssec-or-not.net/
http://dnssectest.sidn.nl/
https://labs.nic.cz/page/960/
http://dnssec.vs.uni-due.de/

I copied some links shamelessly from this list:
http://dnssec-deployment.org/pipermail/dnssec-deployment/2013-June/006623=
=2Ehtml

Regards,
Matt

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Verteilte Systeme
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badsig.zx.com is another that I have run.  Its parent zx.com has a
deliberately bad DS record in it.



On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Matth=E4us Wander <matthaeus.wander@uni-due=
.de
> wrote:

> * John Levine [2013-07-01 04:13]:
> > Does anyone publish DNS records with deliberately broken DNSSEC so we
> > can test that our DNSSEC-aware clients don't resolve them?
>
> A records with broken DNSSEC:
> dnssec-failed.org.
> sigfail.verteiltesysteme.net.
>
> Broken signatures over SOA but (currently?) without A record:
> servfail.nl.
> rhybar.cz.
>
> Excellent reference with a lot of more examples:
> http://dnssec-tools.org/testzone/index.html
>
> Test websites which show result to the user:
> http://www.dnssec-or-not.net/
> http://dnssectest.sidn.nl/
> https://labs.nic.cz/page/960/
> http://dnssec.vs.uni-due.de/
>
> I copied some links shamelessly from this list:
>
> http://dnssec-deployment.org/pipermail/dnssec-deployment/2013-June/006623=
.html
>
> Regards,
> Matt
>
> --
> Universit=E4t Duisburg-Essen
> Verteilte Systeme
> Bismarckstr. 90 / BC 316
> 47057 Duisburg
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"http://badsig.zx.com">badsig.zx.com</a> is anot=
her that I have run. =A0Its parent <a href=3D"http://zx.com">zx.com</a> has=
 a deliberately bad DS record in it.<div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_extra">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Matth=E4=
us Wander <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:matthaeus.wander@uni-due.=
de" target=3D"_blank">matthaeus.wander@uni-due.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
* John Levine [2013-07-01 04:13]:<br>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; Does anyone publish DNS records with deliberately br=
oken DNSSEC so we<br>
&gt; can test that our DNSSEC-aware clients don&#39;t resolve them?<br>
<br>
</div>A records with broken DNSSEC:<br>
<a href=3D"http://dnssec-failed.org" target=3D"_blank">dnssec-failed.org</a=
>.<br>
<a href=3D"http://sigfail.verteiltesysteme.net" target=3D"_blank">sigfail.v=
erteiltesysteme.net</a>.<br>
<br>
Broken signatures over SOA but (currently?) without A record:<br>
<a href=3D"http://servfail.nl" target=3D"_blank">servfail.nl</a>.<br>
<a href=3D"http://rhybar.cz" target=3D"_blank">rhybar.cz</a>.<br>
<br>
Excellent reference with a lot of more examples:<br>
<a href=3D"http://dnssec-tools.org/testzone/index.html" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttp://dnssec-tools.org/testzone/index.html</a><br>
<br>
Test websites which show result to the user:<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.dnssec-or-not.net/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.dnss=
ec-or-not.net/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://dnssectest.sidn.nl/" target=3D"_blank">http://dnssectest.=
sidn.nl/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://labs.nic.cz/page/960/" target=3D"_blank">https://labs.ni=
c.cz/page/960/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://dnssec.vs.uni-due.de/" target=3D"_blank">http://dnssec.vs=
.uni-due.de/</a><br>
<br>
I copied some links shamelessly from this list:<br>
<a href=3D"http://dnssec-deployment.org/pipermail/dnssec-deployment/2013-Ju=
ne/006623.html" target=3D"_blank">http://dnssec-deployment.org/pipermail/dn=
ssec-deployment/2013-June/006623.html</a><br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Matt<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
--<br>
Universit=E4t Duisburg-Essen<br>
Verteilte Systeme<br>
Bismarckstr. 90 / BC 316<br>
47057 Duisburg<br>
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Hi all,

In case you missed it, the Nomcom is still looking for volunteers for
the pool.  Please consider submitting your name.  You can send a
message to nomcom-chair-2013@ietf.org to do so.  Some background about
the nomcom is at https://www.ietf.org/nomcom/.

Best,

A

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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 6975

        Title:      Signaling Cryptographic Algorithm Understanding in 
                    DNS Security Extensions (DNSSEC) 
        Author:     S. Crocker, S. Rose
        Status:     Standards Track
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       July 2013
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        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-dnsext-dnssec-algo-signal-10.txt

        URL:        http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6975.txt

The DNS Security Extensions (DNSSEC) were developed to provide origin
authentication and integrity protection for DNS data by using digital
signatures.  These digital signatures can be generated using
different algorithms.  This document specifies a way for validating
end-system resolvers to signal to a server which digital signature
and hash algorithms they support.  The extensions allow the signaling
of new algorithm uptake in client code to allow zone administrators
to know when it is possible to complete an algorithm rollover in a
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This document is a product of the DNS Extensions Working Group of the IETF.

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My mail from Wed, 26 Jun 2013 18:01:31 +0200 did not came through:

Hello,

in our work with the EDNS-Client-Subnet extension we noticed that it offers=
 unique measurement
opportunities. Below you find the abstract to our paper on "Unintended Cons=
equences:
Exploring EDNS-Client-Subnet Adopters in your Free Time" where we used the =
client IP
extension to explore the mapping of client-IP's to server-IP's in CDNs incl=
uding google and
edgcast.

We mentioned this to Ted Lemon and Andrew Sullivan, who suggested that this=
 work may be of interest to
the wider audience of both DNS related working groups (sorry for cross post=
ing).

As the next IETF meeting is in Berlin (and we are based in Berlin) I would =
be happy taking
the chance of presenting the paper at the upcoming meeting. Any comments?


cheers,
  Florian


Abstract of "Unintended Consequences: Exploring EDNS-Client-Subnet Adopters=
 in your Free Time";

The recently proposed DNS extension, EDNS-Client-Subnet (ECS), has been qui=
ckly
adopted by major Internet companies such as Google to better assign user
requests to their servers and improve end-user experience. =20
In this paper, we show that the adoption of ECS also offers unique, but lik=
ely
unintended, opportunities to uncover details about these companies' operati=
onal
practices at almost no cost.  A key observation is that ECS allows everyone=
 to
resolve domain names of ECS adopters on behalf of any arbitrary IP/prefix i=
n the
Internet. In fact, by utilizing only a single residential vantage point and
relying solely on publicly available information, we are able to (i) uncover
the global footprint of ECS adopters with very little effort, (ii) infer the
DNS response cacheability and end-user clustering of ECS adopters for an ar=
bitrary
network in the Internet, and (iii) reveal the mapping of users to server
locations as practiced by major ECS adopters.  While pointing out such new
measurement opportunities, our work is also intended to make current and fu=
ture
ECS adopters aware of which operational information gets exposed when utili=
zing
this recent DNS extension.


--=20
Florian Streibelt
Chair "Intelligent Networks" (INET)
TEL 16
Technische Universit=C3=A4t Berlin
Ernst-Reuter-Platz 7
10587 Berlin
GERMANY

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No hat.

Dear colleagues,

Hosnieh Rafiee has asked me to shepherd her draft,
draft-rafiee-intarea-cga-tsig-03, through the AD-sponsored process.
Please note that this is _not_ a WG draft for DNSEXT, or any other WG.

Nevertheless, it would be good if, prior to seeking AD support, there
was ample evidence of review.

Since this is where the DNS people hang out, I thought I'd solicit
review here.  You can send reviews to the intarea list, or directly to
Hosnieh and me if you prefer.

Best regards,

Andrew

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Hello,=0A=A0=0AI have following the third RFC draft would be expired soon. =
I want to update it before its expiration but encounter the draft upload we=
bsite cutoff these two weeks. Please tell me how to update it in an alterna=
tive ways if possible. =0A=A0=0AThanks,=0A=A0=0ADiao YP=0A=A0=0A-----------=
------------------=0AA new version of I-D, draft-diao-aip-dns-03.txt=0Ahas =
been successfully submitted by Diao Yuping and posted to the=0AIETF reposit=
ory.=0AFilename:=A0=A0=A0 draft-diao-aip-dns=0ARevision:=A0=A0=A0 03=0ATitl=
e:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 DNS Extension for Autonomous Internet(AIP)=0ACreati=
on date:=A0=A0=A0 2013-06-25=0AGroup:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Individual Submi=
ssion=0ANumber of pages: 13=0AURL:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 http://=
www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-diao-aip-dns-03.txt=0AStatus:=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-diao-aip-dns=0AHtm=
lized:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-diao-aip-dns-0=
3=0ADiff:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=
=3Ddraft-diao-aip-dns-03=0AAbstract:=0A=A0 With the reality of Internet, Au=
tonomous Internet technology=0A=A0 in this article constructs independent a=
utonomous extensible domain=0A=A0 name architecture and domain name hierarc=
hy through current domain=0A=A0 name architecture, provides independent roo=
t DNS server, inner/outer=0A=A0 DNS resolution mechanism for each autonomou=
s internet network system,=0A=A0 and provides reformation and transition so=
lution from current=0A=A0 Internet to realize autonomy even in unilateral a=
ction.=0A--------------------------------------=0AA new version of I-D, dra=
ft-diao-aeip-nat-00.txt=0Ahas been successfully submitted by Diao Yongping =
and posted to the=0AIETF repository.=0AFilename:=A0=A0=A0 draft-diao-aeip-n=
at=0ARevision:=A0=A0=A0 00=0ATitle:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Autonomous Extensi=
ble Internet with Network Address Translation(AEIP NAT)=0ACreation date:=A0=
=A0=A0 2013-03-11=0AGroup:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Individual Submission=0ANum=
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g/internet-drafts/draft-diao-aeip-nat-00.txt=0AStatus:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-diao-aeip-nat=0AHtmlized:=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-diao-aeip-nat-00=0A=0AA=
bstract:=0A=A0 The two key issues of today's Internet are autonomy and=0A=
=A0 extensibility. Autonomous Internet(AIP) technology can provide=0A=A0 ex=
tensible internet architecture, own independent root DNS servers=0A=A0 and =
self management internet network; Furthermore, based on the=0A=A0 Autonomou=
s Internet, here provides a way with extensible address=0A=A0 capacity to s=
olve IP address deficiency and realize=0A=A0 Autonomous Extensible Internet=
(AEIP). It mainly adopts local=0A=A0 network address based on per Autonomou=
s IP network and uses=0A=A0 bilateral dynamic NAT with global network addre=
ss between=0A=A0 Autonomous IP networks to solve IP address deficient probl=
em.=0A=A0 This AEIP with Network Address Translation(AEIP NAT) can realize=
=0A=A0 autonomy and extensibility with minimal cost.=0A--------------------=
-------------------------=0AA new version of I-D, draft-diao-aeip-nam-00.tx=
t=0Ahas been successfully submitted by Diao Yongping and posted to the=0AIE=
TF repository.=0AFilename:=A0=A0=A0 draft-diao-aeip-nam=0ARevision:=A0=A0=
=A0 00=0ATitle:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Autonomous Extensible Internet with Ne=
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tatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-diao-aeip-nam=0AHtmlized:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-diao-aeip-nam-00=0A=0AAbstract:=0A=A0 The=
 two key issues of today's Internet are autonomy and=0A=A0 extensibility. A=
utonomous Internet(AIP) technology can provide=0A=A0 extensible internet ar=
chitecture, own independent root DNS servers=0A=A0 and self management inte=
rnet network; Furthermore, based on the=0A=A0 Autonomous Internet, here pro=
vides a way with extensible address=0A=A0 capacity to solve IP address defi=
ciency and realize=0A=A0 Autonomous Extensible Internet(AEIP) with global n=
etwork address=0A=A0 and multiplexing local network address. This AEIP with=
 Network=0A=A0 Address Multiplexing(AEIP NAM) can realize autonomy and exte=
nsibility=0A=A0 with minimal cost.=0A------------------------------------

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>I have following the third RFC draft would be expired soon. I want to update it before its
>expiration but encounter the draft upload website cutoff these two weeks. Please tell me how to
>update it in an alternative ways if possible. 

Just wait and submit it when the window reopens.  Nothing bad will
happen if your old draft expires in the meantime, and you will be able
to submit the new one the same way you always do.


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On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:44 PM, YP Diao <diaoyp@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have following the third RFC draft would be expired soon. I want to upd=
ate it before its expiration but encounter the draft upload website cutoff =
these two weeks. Please tell me how to update it in an alternative ways if =
possible.=20

It's okay if it expires.   You can submit the new version on the Monday whe=
n IETF starts.


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The DNS Extensions (dnsext) in the Internet Area has concluded. The IESG =

contact persons are Brian Haberman and Ted Lemon.

DNSEXT has successfully completed all items on its charter.
Congratulations to all participants for this accomplishment. The
working group is closed; the mailing list will remain open to support
expert review of RRtypes and EDNS options.

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On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:51:53AM -0700, IESG Secretary wrote:

> DNSEXT has successfully completed all items on its charter.

Dear colleagues,

I want to send this personal note of gratitude to all of you who have
contributed to the WG's achievements.  I also want to thank you all
for having accepted my numerous limitations during the period when I
was co-chair.  I have learned quite a lot, and I appreciate your help
and understanding in those lessons.  It's been a tremendous privilege
to serve you and to work with all of you.  I hope to continue to be
able to work with all of you here on the list in future.

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At IETF 68 it was suggested that the group close.

On Mar 26, 2007, at 20:36, =EElafur Gu=DDmundsson /DNSEXT co-chair =
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> From: =EElafur Gu=DDmundsson /DNSEXT co-chair <ogud@ogud.com>
> Subject: DNSEXT future=20
> Date: March 26, 2007 20:36:10 EDT
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> Dear Colleagues:
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> Last week in the WG meeting at IETF68 the chairs raised the issue that
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> The chairs believe that there are no DNS protocol CHANGES that are =
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> developed.
> With the conclusion of the NSEC3 work there seems to be consensus
> that DNSSEC work is done.

...

> 	Olafur & Olaf=20

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"><div>At IETF 68 it was suggested that the group =
close.</div><div><br></div><div><div>On Mar 26, 2007, at 20:36, =EElafur =
Gu=DDmundsson /DNSEXT co-chair wrote:</div><div><br></div><blockquote =
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href=3D"mailto:ogud@ogud.com">ogud@ogud.com</a>&gt;<br></span></div><div =
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margin-left: 0px; "><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>Subject:&nbsp;</b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>DNSEXT =
future&nbsp;</b><br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
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;<br></span></div><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Dear =
Colleagues:<br><br>Last week in the WG meeting at IETF68 the chairs =
raised the issue that<br>the working group has basically concluded all =
of its working group items.<br>The chairs believe that there are no DNS =
protocol CHANGES that are being<br>developed.<br>With the conclusion of =
the NSEC3 work there seems to be consensus<br>that DNSSEC work is =
done.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>...</div><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>Olafur &amp; Olaf =
<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div>6 years later, on a new mail list, =
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On Mi=E9rcoles, 24 de julio de 2013 18:51:53 IESG Secretary wrote:
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Hi all

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Thank you for your help! =0A=A0=0AMy draft is successfully updated while th=
e system is reopened.=0A=A0=0A-----------------------------=0A=A0=0A=A0=0AA=
 new version of I-D, draft-diao-aeip-nam-01.txt=0Ahas been successfully sub=
mitted by Diao Yuping and posted to the=0AIETF repository.=0A=0AFilename:  =
   draft-diao-aeip-nam=0ARevision:     01=0ATitle:         Autonomous Exten=
sible Internet with Network Address Multiplexing(AEIP NAM)=0ACreation date:=
     2013-07-28=0AGroup:         Individual Submission=0ANumber of pages: 1=
3=0AURL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-diao-aeip-nam-01.txt=0AS=
tatus: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-diao-aeip-nam=0AHtmlized: http=
://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-diao-aeip-nam-01=0ADiff: http://www.ietf.org/r=
fcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-diao-aeip-nam-01=0A=0AAbstract:=0AThe two key issues of=
 today's Internet are autonomy and=0Aextensibility. Autonomous Internet(AIP=
) technology can provide=0Aextensible internet architecture, own independen=
t root DNS servers=0Aand self management internet network; Furthermore, bas=
ed on the=0AAutonomous Internet, here provides a way with extensible addres=
s=0Acapacity to solve IP address deficiency and realize=0AAutonomous Extens=
ible Internet(AEIP) with global network address=0Aand multiplexing local ne=
twork address. This AEIP with Network=0AAddress Multiplexing(AEIP NAM) can =
realize autonomy and extensibility=0Awith minimal cost.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0APleas=
e note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission=0Au=
ntil the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.=0A=0ATh=
e IETF Secretariat=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message -----=0AFrom: Ted L=
emon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com>=0ATo: YP Diao <diaoyp@yahoo.com>=0ACc: "dnsext=
@ietf.org" <dnsext@ietf.org>=0ASent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:37 PM=0ASubjec=
t: Re: [dnsext] draft update question=0A=0AOn Jul 18, 2013, at 7:44 PM, YP =
Diao <diaoyp@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A> I have following the third RFC draft wou=
ld be expired soon. I want to update it before its expiration but encounter=
 the draft upload website cutoff these two weeks. Please tell me how to upd=
ate it in an alternative ways if possible. =0A=0AIt's okay if it expires.=
=A0  You can submit the new version on the Monday when IETF starts.
