From nobody Mon Sep 17 14:02:40 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietf.org Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DBE12F1A5; Mon, 17 Sep 2018 14:02:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: dnssd@ietf.org, dnssd-chairs@ietf.org, dschinazi@apple.com, terry.manderson@icann.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.83.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <153721815791.24840.9901697215153217157.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 14:02:37 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] dnssd - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 103 X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 21:02:38 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by David Schinazi, a Chair of the dnssd working group. --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: David Schinazi Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 75 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: 6man dnsop doh dprive homenet quic v6ops core anima Second Priority: ipsecme intarea mls babel People who must be present: Tim Chown Terry Manderson David Schinazi Resources Requested: Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Tue Sep 18 19:42:47 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietf.org Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FB0130DD5; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 19:42:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: dnssd@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.84.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dnssd@ietf.org Message-ID: <153732496700.8581.17948121611888482657@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 19:42:47 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnssd-push-15.txt X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 02:42:47 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery WG of the IETF. Title : DNS Push Notifications Authors : Tom Pusateri Stuart Cheshire Filename : draft-ietf-dnssd-push-15.txt Pages : 35 Date : 2018-09-18 Abstract: The Domain Name System (DNS) was designed to return matching records efficiently for queries for data that are relatively static. When those records change frequently, DNS is still efficient at returning the updated results when polled, as long as the polling rate is not too high. But there exists no mechanism for a client to be asynchronously notified when these changes occur. This document defines a mechanism for a client to be notified of such changes to DNS records, called DNS Push Notifications. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnssd-push/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-push-15 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-push-15 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dnssd-push-15 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Sep 26 12:21:24 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95A1130EDB; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 09:19:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.89 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.89 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id anyFSICRvtLd; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 09:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prometheus.amsuess.com (prometheus.amsuess.com [5.9.147.112]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58590130EEF; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 09:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from poseidon-mailhub.amsuess.com (095129206250.cust.akis.net [95.129.206.250]) by prometheus.amsuess.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70B1B41937; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 18:19:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from poseidon-mailbox.amsuess.com (hermes.amsuess.com [10.13.13.254]) by poseidon-mailhub.amsuess.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D926C; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 18:19:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hephaistos.amsuess.com (hephaistos.amsuess.com [IPv6:2a02:b18:c13b:8010::71b]) by poseidon-mailbox.amsuess.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 20A7819; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 18:19:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: (nullmailer pid 18917 invoked by uid 1000); Wed, 26 Sep 2018 16:19:03 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 18:19:03 +0200 From: Christian =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ams=FCss?= To: core@ietf.org, dnssd@ietf.org Cc: Hauke Petersen , Carsten Bormann , Peter van der Stok , michael.koster@smartthings.com, kerlyn@ieee.org, Ivaylo Petrov , Jim Schaad , Matthias Kovatsch Message-ID: <20180926161903.GA30204@hephaistos.amsuess.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 12:21:24 -0700 Subject: [dnssd] Second Resource Directory plug test X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 16:19:12 -0000 --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello groups and people interested in Resource Directory interoperability, there will be a second plug test on CoRE Resource Directory implementations in about two weeks, please enter your preferred dates at [1] if you want to participate; a date will be picked on October 2nd. The test specification is under preparation and can be viewed at [2] for the time being. A final version of the test specification, along with the draft version to be used ([3] with editorial changes will be -15), will be sent with the date announcement mail. The test specification covers basic RD registration and the administrative interface; we'll be happy to accomodate implementations that provide only a subset of the described functionality. Also, participants are welcome to try out additional Resource Directory extensions like the DNS-SD mapping after covering the test specs. Followup mails will go to the mailing lists that recieve this mail as well as anyone entered in the Doodle; please forward this to potentially interested parties. If you or they want to participate in the plug test anonymously, please contact me directly; otherwise, it will be handled as a public IETF event with names and email addresses sent out via mailing lists. Best regards Christian [1]: https://doodle.com/poll/9r6g34nv3vs4br6r [2]: http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/core-wg/resource-dire= ctory/master/interop-RD-20180910.html [3]: https://core-wg.github.io/resource-directory/draft-ietf-core-resource-= directory.html --=20 We are dreamers, shapers, singers, and makers. -- Elric --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEECM1tElX6OodcH7CWOY0REtOkveEFAlursXQACgkQOY0REtOk veGlUhAAk26VFrnSvcMUkKgNpbq1hS8a70piX/9G1NkGM6zMY2gpW0kD8kcL7pcC dcgLs6/mS62mbQ/FXEfX972UU3TS2fVjBmsoW8L9ONafaZNUdv9AU50U1p+JCVpq OLTYpMUaqPsH7RwEGBytyVaMqw1GLRfNAfcMMCV+CjETGu2kFA2pz4BKNAqg5nn6 q+AoZh3OtzC2qemRPPA5tL2nkOml6a4HrdYETwl5S5zy1NcQZre4Es/7wQnM0ji8 Eew+t/s+CiDEmZ/bPUa2Ytj83uCnB0XlVKyPnKpOz+Iqr5JKJtHGCp3Q3agWWsKe i+eahR7/eR17SfsejGwnXIKDc2qSq01HmneUQWr067bWu7ndBuYAfLqt93YdH/Lz BU21fvblIUbLjDv6S202fJno/pN3AsopAUMcLZ2uySsmW0rvFCxeHlOYKrZ2ZIQa 193vaxZ/Hx8216c3fclCgXUks8gAnR5Z5NEuozBjqXsWJFE7f4NsmE91sNuvgVjp 8RSyj8fQYyU+Dt/45VhtxmRDCTo1vrlIvxZPL/iV/QU/CDngP+hlRHZHWLdksdpo W5sHnxPQ4EVKmL3CY4SuxUhYviQkIQOIl0AhPUHK2R5ACOlTW65oeGL1gkcx0+8e yUQVt08yT7X/Bpk8mk38nkYkAekcVfITAhlBZ7ZnL1rWnt5qL+Q= =29au -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+-- From nobody Sat Sep 29 17:08:42 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6C31294D7 for ; 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 00:08:41 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_XLb/MDKldyBXI+SsBcR5XA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi everyone, We will not be progressing this document beyond the WG until we receive comments or statements of support. Please read the draft and comment on the list, even if your only comment is that you support the document moving forward. The chairs would also like to hear more about implementation experience. Thanks, David > On Jul 3, 2018, at 12:25, David Schinazi wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > This email starts a three-week working group last call for draft-ietf-dnssd-mdns-relay . > The call will run until the week after IETF 102. > Please review this draft between now and Montreal, we will also discuss it in person in Montreal. > > Thanks, > David --Boundary_(ID_XLb/MDKldyBXI+SsBcR5XA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi = everyone,

We will = not be progressing this document beyond the WG until we receive comments = or statements of support.
Please read the draft and = comment on the list, even if your only comment is that you support the = document moving forward.

The chairs would also like to hear more about implementation = experience.

Thanks,
David


On Jul 3, 2018, at 12:25, David Schinazi <dschinazi@apple.com>= wrote:

Hi everyone,

This email starts a = three-week working group last call for draft-ietf-dnssd-mdns-relay .
The call will run until the week after IETF = 102.
Please review this draft between now and = Montreal, we will also discuss it in person in Montreal.

Thanks,
David

= --Boundary_(ID_XLb/MDKldyBXI+SsBcR5XA)-- From nobody Sat Sep 29 17:09:10 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1C2129C6B for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:09:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.456, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=apple.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VYRgV-HzpNSC for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ma1-aaemail-dr-lapp03.apple.com (ma1-aaemail-dr-lapp03.apple.com [17.171.2.72]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E46241294D7 for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (ma1-aaemail-dr-lapp03.apple.com [127.0.0.1]) by ma1-aaemail-dr-lapp03.apple.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id w8U06pZq044793; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:08:58 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apple.com; h=mime-version : content-type : sender : from : message-id : subject : date : in-reply-to : cc : to : references; s=20180706; bh=iopeyI8xCxTWNPjE3nlomsfNuaEOF7rqDbd29n62ODo=; b=a8PVLhuw80xWJsrEosxvayAyIspb932Oa0tOW0Bbgg3p4Xv7vpDcjiqGM49aX8iRnaCi 0Sd805rOhGahNMC2nuVCH1WxcOcWP9bLmjo6bDhvbVWO4orhYfYOtuca6JkZUyAO1KHp kM7mXueUVymTYOY7iU4MUrsso5I8xK35SCztq1UyMkNGLSWgY544HVOYBW8gp1SnRNR2 qE1evxbXWrvBviqSiJQInvt/tLzRXJBcA8PTH0er5T9SML9Uv5tsRtGS7OTg7aoynZJY MgPFpaDC/r6rIn/iuAKfYxfAQgz+kTR5vB4YnTofT41GkRpAv9mmz8XlZqGGX+BaIrc8 Zw== Received: from mr2-mtap-s02.rno.apple.com (mr2-mtap-s02.rno.apple.com [17.179.226.134]) by ma1-aaemail-dr-lapp03.apple.com with ESMTP id 2mt8cwvgyf-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:08:58 -0700 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_BFIcF7hZv2lREk/SgIVXRw)" Received: from nwk-mmpp-sz09.apple.com (nwk-mmpp-sz09.apple.com [17.128.115.80]) by mr2-mtap-s02.rno.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.3.20180614 64bit (built Jun 14 2018)) with ESMTPS id <0PFU00K20DQTZ150@mr2-mtap-s02.rno.apple.com>; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from process_viserion-daemon.nwk-mmpp-sz09.apple.com by nwk-mmpp-sz09.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.3.20180614 64bit (built Jun 14 2018)) id <0PFU00G00DC72500@nwk-mmpp-sz09.apple.com>; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:08:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Va-A: X-Va-T-CD: 30a9c062f6936833101a7e3ef1ad5808 X-Va-E-CD: 74794da9ec1c7f5c9179b24b7c56fb6f X-Va-R-CD: 6042fa0853f2c9b0e0088b609da1089d X-Va-CD: 0 X-Va-ID: cc40ea74-7a9a-4004-9e3d-2b2e5b8499f3 X-V-A: X-V-T-CD: 9cb739ef05cf90679a21e4dc783575a9 X-V-E-CD: 74794da9ec1c7f5c9179b24b7c56fb6f X-V-R-CD: 6042fa0853f2c9b0e0088b609da1089d X-V-CD: 0 X-V-ID: 514f2aa3-dec3-44b7-b532-24b24594b830 Received: from process_milters-daemon.nwk-mmpp-sz09.apple.com by nwk-mmpp-sz09.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.3.20180614 64bit (built Jun 14 2018)) id <0PFU00F00DC6YU00@nwk-mmpp-sz09.apple.com>; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:08:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:,, definitions=2018-09-29_12:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Scanner-Instance: nwk-grpmailp-qapp18.corp.apple.com-10000_instance1 Received: from [17.234.20.165] (unknown [17.234.20.165]) by nwk-mmpp-sz09.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.3.20180614 64bit (built Jun 14 2018)) with ESMTPSA id <0PFU00F75DQDY200@nwk-mmpp-sz09.apple.com>; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Sender: dschinazi@apple.com From: David Schinazi Message-id: Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:08:52 -0700 In-reply-to: Cc: Christian Huitema To: dnssd References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2018-09-29_12:, , signatures=0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dnssd] Adoption call for DNSSD Privacy drafts X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 00:09:08 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_BFIcF7hZv2lREk/SgIVXRw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi everyone, Due to interest during the meeting in Montreal and lack of opposition, these documents have been adopted by the WG. Christian, please upload draft-ietf versions, ideally with the exact same text as the latest draft to simplify diff viewing. Thanks, David > On Jul 3, 2018, at 12:23, David Schinazi wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > This email starts three-week adoption calls for both draft-huitema-dnssd-prireq and draft-huitema-dnssd-privacyscaling . > The call will run until the week after IETF 102. > Please review these drafts between now and Montreal, we will also discuss them in person in Montreal. > > Our privacy goal for Montreal is to reach consensus on the privacy, security, and scaling requirements for a DNSSD privacy solution. > > Thanks, > David --Boundary_(ID_BFIcF7hZv2lREk/SgIVXRw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi = everyone,

Due to = interest during the meeting in Montreal and lack of opposition, these = documents have been adopted by the WG.
Christian, = please upload draft-ietf versions, ideally with the exact same text as = the latest draft to simplify diff viewing.

Thanks,
David


On Jul = 3, 2018, at 12:23, David Schinazi <dschinazi@apple.com>= wrote:

Hi everyone,

This email starts = three-week adoption calls for both draft-huitema-dnssd-prireq and draft-huitema-dnssd-privacyscaling .
The call will run until the week after IETF 102.
Please review these drafts between now and Montreal, we will = also discuss them in person in Montreal.

Our privacy goal for Montreal is to = reach consensus on the privacy, security, and scaling requirements for a = DNSSD privacy solution.

Thanks,
David

= --Boundary_(ID_BFIcF7hZv2lREk/SgIVXRw)-- From nobody Sat Sep 29 17:26:52 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C577129C6A for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:26:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=apple.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KZ7LZLxwsBiA for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ma1-aaemail-dr-lapp03.apple.com (ma1-aaemail-dr-lapp03.apple.com [17.171.2.72]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E829127133 for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (ma1-aaemail-dr-lapp03.apple.com [127.0.0.1]) by ma1-aaemail-dr-lapp03.apple.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id w8U0GSXq056414; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:26:46 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apple.com; h=mime-version : content-type : sender : from : subject : message-id : date : cc : to; s=20180706; bh=ibYw1w/hn7BOzxUjEJ78sLNqDb+/OmylgV7C+LkqAbo=; b=XqV571j+G97EljQ8OAmVbJ4e5W5BSfgGMou9NgkMfnfMST12cqi6XLu7/v8bhC/fZDn4 HTGo/L8EmRHsU/VxZW20CuBA3v2iRhWoXHVKp8lgTBL8MBDUHI7P7CnRki+KChTCnyHU KMhhYczPx4mZWrTNTQfAvubMW8mr6z4TVZAM4XiDqKj23Mn+tke0IMV+/eehIH4L1mW3 kw1X0w6ITLzVLOH+z+/aFg4IyHfZ0v7k0EgeSU2jVXmYbO8vMMK7Fb5YFbJ8WvVrtjvK rAqqdw2h8nFfuexbPVoytx8iStvxRCBo8hjXbmyC71CEI/8a5IAhpJtXEIyBCJRgDCTR IQ== Received: from mr2-mtap-s01.rno.apple.com (mr2-mtap-s01.rno.apple.com [17.179.226.133]) by ma1-aaemail-dr-lapp03.apple.com with ESMTP id 2mt8cwvs7d-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:26:46 -0700 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_rR5RNR+zDvtoZBZHNkE/tQ)" Received: from apple.com (nwk-grpmailp-qapp16.corp.apple.com [17.146.97.142]) by mr2-mtap-s01.rno.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.3.20180614 64bit (built Jun 14 2018)) with ESMTPS id <0PFU006G1EKMQT50@mr2-mtap-s01.rno.apple.com>; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwk-grpmailp-qapp16.corp.apple.com (nwk-grpmailp-qapp16.corp.apple.com [127.0.0.1]) by pps.post-v (8.16.0.20/8.16.0.20) with SMTP id w8U0P9qZ005063; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:26:46 -0700 Authentication-results: corp.apple.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=dschinazi@apple.com; dmarc=pass header.from=apple.com Received: from process_milters-daemon.nwk-mmpp-sz09.apple.com ([17.234.20.165]) by nwk-mmpp-sz09.apple.com with ESMTP id 0PFU00F00DC6YU00; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:26:46 -0700 Received: from process_milters-daemon.nwk-mmpp-sz09.apple.com by nwk-mmpp-sz09.apple.com; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.234.20.165] (unknown [17.234.20.165]) by nwk-mmpp-sz09.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.3.20180614 64bit (built Jun 14 2018)) with ESMTPSA id <0PFU001JFEKLO910@nwk-mmpp-sz09.apple.com>; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: dschinazi@apple.com From: David Schinazi Message-id: <9EDAA7B4-BB78-4CCC-BE0E-A47EF3E0A4A6@apple.com> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:26:44 -0700 Cc: Tom Pusateri , Stuart Cheshire , Tim Wicinski To: dnssd X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-Proofpoint-Scanner-Instance: nwk-grpmailp-qapp16.corp.apple.com-10000_instance1 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:,, definitions=2018-09-29_12:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2018-09-29_12:, , signatures=0 Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] Working group last call for draft-ietf-dnssd-push X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 00:26:51 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_rR5RNR+zDvtoZBZHNkE/tQ) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi everyone, This email starts a three-week working group last call for draft-ietf-dnssd-push . The call will run until October 22nd. Please review this draft and send comments to the list, even if only to say you support the draft. The authors have let us know that the draft was updated to reflect the final changes in DNS Stateful Operations (draft-ietf-dnsop-session-signal) which was submitted to the IESG for publication. If we get enough support on the list for this document, we will be able to progress it alongside the Discovery Proxy (draft-ietf-dnssd-hybrid ). The chairs would also like to hear about implementation experience. Thanks, David --Boundary_(ID_rR5RNR+zDvtoZBZHNkE/tQ) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi = everyone,

This email starts a three-week = working group last call for draft-ietf-dnssd-push. The call will run until = October 22nd.
Please review this draft and send comments = to the list, even if only to say you support the draft.
The authors have let us know that the = draft was updated to reflect the final changes in DNS Stateful = Operations (draft-ietf-dnsop-session-signal) which was submitted to the = IESG for publication. If we get enough support on the list for this = document, we will be able to progress it alongside the Discovery Proxy = (draft-ietf-dnssd-hybrid).

The chairs would also like to hear = about implementation experience.

Thanks,
David
= --Boundary_(ID_rR5RNR+zDvtoZBZHNkE/tQ)-- From nobody Sun Sep 30 22:28:59 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietf.org Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1F3128CFD; Sun, 30 Sep 2018 22:28:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: dnssd@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.84.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dnssd@ietf.org Message-ID: <153837173721.13426.14373284569596870195@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 22:28:57 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq-00.txt X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2018 05:28:57 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery WG of the IETF. Title : DNS-SD Privacy and Security Requirements Author : Christian Huitema Filename : draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq-00.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2018-09-30 Abstract: DNS-SD (DNS Service Discovery) normally discloses information about devices offering and requesting services. This information includes host names, network parameters, and possibly a further description of the corresponding service instance. Especially when mobile devices engage in DNS Service Discovery over Multicast DNS at a public hotspot, serious privacy problems arise. We analyze the requirements of a privacy respecting discovery service. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Sep 30 22:29:29 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietf.org Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E5B130DF6; Sun, 30 Sep 2018 22:29:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: dnssd@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.84.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dnssd@ietf.org Message-ID: <153837176030.13418.5295897863510179134@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 22:29:20 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnssd-privacyscaling-00.txt X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2018 05:29:28 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery WG of the IETF. Title : DNS-SD Privacy Scaling Tradeoffs Author : Christian Huitema Filename : draft-ietf-dnssd-privacyscaling-00.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2018-09-30 Abstract: DNS-SD (DNS Service Discovery) normally discloses information about both the devices offering services and the devices requesting services. This information includes host names, network parameters, and possibly a further description of the corresponding service instance. Especially when mobile devices engage in DNS Service Discovery over Multicast DNS at a public hotspot, a serious privacy problem arises. The draft currently progressing in the DNS-SD Working Group assumes peer-to-peer pairing between the service to be discovered and each of its clients. This has good security properties, but creates scaling issues, because each server needs to publish as many announcements as it has paired clients. This leads to large number of operations when servers are paired with many clients. Different designs are possible. For example, if there was only one server "discovery key" known by each authorized client, each server would only have to announce a single record, and clients would only have to process one response for each server that is present on the network. Yet, these designs will present different privacy profiles, and pose different management challenges. This draft analyses the tradeoffs between privacy and scaling in a set of different designs, using either shared secrets or public keys. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnssd-privacyscaling/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-privacyscaling-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-privacyscaling-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/