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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2020 03:43:12 -0000 I am not aware of IPR directly related to draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq. The draft lists a set of requirements for performing private discovery, and I am not aware of patent applications or other IPR applying generally to this problem statement. On the other hand, I am aware of attempts to find and patent solution to related problems. I am listed as an inventor on related patents filed by my former employer, Microsoft: "Gateway Advertisement in a Wireless Mesh" (US Patent Application #20170034773) and "DISCOVERING AND PROTECTING DATA STREAMS IN MULTI-PATH COMMUNICATION ENVIRONMENTS" (US Patent Application #20180152976). I do not believe that this patents directly apply to draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq. -- Christian Huitema On 1/8/2020 12:29 PM, David Schinazi wrote: > Hi Daniel, Christian, > > I am writing a shepherd's review of=C2=A0draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq in ord= er > to submit it to the IESG. > > Please both reply-all to this email stating whether you are aware of > any Intellectual Property Rights related to=C2=A0draft-ietf-dnssd-prire= q. > (Details of the IETF policies on this topic can be found in BCP 78 and > BCP 79). > > To everyone else in the WG, please reply only if you are aware of any I= PR. > > Thanks, > David From nobody Thu Jan 16 04:53:47 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7BE12006E for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 04:53:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7vwj98TEGX5R for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 04:53:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1.uni.lu (smtp1.uni.lu [IPv6:2001:a18:a:c5::d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2AFB4120052 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 04:53:37 -0800 (PST) IronPort-SDR: uNKbl7oMBGPf6zi32tAfv0oDYyqSNMISaxmms4muV9wU9pPTocMbG8yoBYWNSCqAUBwBELOi1B K1swb4bgk5aw== X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.70,326,1574118000"; d="scan'208";a="28063199" To: Christian Huitema , David Schinazi CC: DNSSD , Barbara Stark References: From: Daniel KAISER Message-ID: <813217a4-3ea9-1941-4b36-191273bde057@uni.lu> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 13:53:34 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Originating-IP: [10.244.9.69] X-ClientProxiedBy: lydia2017.uni.lux (2001:a18:a:90::83) To lydia2017.uni.lux (2001:a18:a:90::83) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dnssd] IPR on draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 12:53:46 -0000 I, too, am not aware of IPR related to draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq. On 1/9/20 4:43 AM, Christian Huitema wrote: > I am not aware of IPR directly related to draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq. > > The draft lists a set of requirements for performing private discovery, > and I am not aware of patent applications or other IPR applying > generally to this problem statement. On the other hand, I am aware of > attempts to find and patent solution to related problems. I am listed as > an inventor on related patents filed by my former employer, Microsoft: > "Gateway Advertisement in a Wireless Mesh" (US Patent Application > #20170034773) and "DISCOVERING AND PROTECTING DATA STREAMS IN MULTI-PATH > COMMUNICATION ENVIRONMENTS" (US Patent Application #20180152976). I do > not believe that this patents directly apply to draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq. > > -- Christian Huitema > > On 1/8/2020 12:29 PM, David Schinazi wrote: >> Hi Daniel, Christian, >> >> I am writing a shepherd's review of draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq in order >> to submit it to the IESG. >> >> Please both reply-all to this email stating whether you are aware of >> any Intellectual Property Rights related to draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq. >> (Details of the IETF policies on this topic can be found in BCP 78 and >> BCP 79). >> >> To everyone else in the WG, please reply only if you are aware of any IPR. >> >> Thanks, >> David > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This e-mail can not be trusted due to SPF/DKIM validation failed. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Dr. Daniel Kaiser Research Associate SnT- Interdisciplinary Centre for Security, Reliability and Trust University of Luxembourg Maison du Nombre (MNO) 6, avenue de la Fonte L-4364 Esch-sur-Alzette Office: E02 0225-010 From nobody Thu Jan 16 11:27:27 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietf.org Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5CB1208FB; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 11:27:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Schinazi via Datatracker To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.116.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com, David Schinazi , dnssd@ietf.org, iesg-secretary@ietf.org, dnssd-chairs@ietf.org Message-ID: <157920284556.26270.7769477295102566358.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 11:27:25 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq-03 X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 19:27:25 -0000 David Schinazi has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq-03 as Informational on behalf of the DNSSD working group. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 19:30:03 -0000 --000000000000d58ed8059c46d975 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thank you Christian and Daniel. I have submitted the draft to the IESG for publication. David On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 4:53 AM Daniel KAISER wrote: > I, too, am not aware of IPR related to draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq. > > On 1/9/20 4:43 AM, Christian Huitema wrote: > > I am not aware of IPR directly related to draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq. > > > > The draft lists a set of requirements for performing private discovery, > > and I am not aware of patent applications or other IPR applying > > generally to this problem statement. On the other hand, I am aware of > > attempts to find and patent solution to related problems. I am listed as > > an inventor on related patents filed by my former employer, Microsoft: > > "Gateway Advertisement in a Wireless Mesh" (US Patent Application > > #20170034773) and "DISCOVERING AND PROTECTING DATA STREAMS IN MULTI-PATH > > COMMUNICATION ENVIRONMENTS" (US Patent Application #20180152976). I do > > not believe that this patents directly apply to draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq. > > > > -- Christian Huitema > > > > On 1/8/2020 12:29 PM, David Schinazi wrote: > >> Hi Daniel, Christian, > >> > >> I am writing a shepherd's review of draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq in order > >> to submit it to the IESG. > >> > >> Please both reply-all to this email stating whether you are aware of > >> any Intellectual Property Rights related to draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq. > >> (Details of the IETF policies on this topic can be found in BCP 78 and > >> BCP 79). > >> > >> To everyone else in the WG, please reply only if you are aware of any > IPR. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> David > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This e-mail can not be trusted due to SPF/DKIM validation failed. > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > > Dr. Daniel Kaiser > Research Associate > SnT- Interdisciplinary Centre for Security, Reliability and Trust > > University of Luxembourg > Maison du Nombre (MNO) > 6, avenue de la Fonte > L-4364 Esch-sur-Alzette > Office: E02 0225-010 > > --000000000000d58ed8059c46d975 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you Christian and Daniel. I have submitted the draft= to the IESG for publication.

David

On Thu, Jan 16,= 2020 at 4:53 AM Daniel KAISER <= daniel.kaiser@uni.lu> wrote:
I, too, am not aware of IPR related to draft-ietf-dnssd= -prireq.

On 1/9/20 4:43 AM, Christian Huitema wrote:
> I am not aware of IPR directly related to draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq.
>
> The draft lists a set of requirements for performing private discovery= ,
> and I am not aware of patent applications or other IPR applying
> generally to this problem statement. On the other hand, I am aware of<= br> > attempts to find and patent solution to related problems. I am listed = as
> an inventor on related patents filed by my former employer, Microsoft:=
> "Gateway Advertisement in a Wireless Mesh" (US Patent Applic= ation
> #20170034773) and "DISCOVERING AND PROTECTING DATA STREAMS IN MUL= TI-PATH
> COMMUNICATION ENVIRONMENTS" (US Patent Application #20180152976).= I do
> not believe that this patents directly apply to draft-ietf-dnssd-prire= q.
>
> -- Christian Huitema
>
> On 1/8/2020 12:29 PM, David Schinazi wrote:
>> Hi Daniel, Christian,
>>
>> I am writing a shepherd's review of=C2=A0draft-ietf-dnssd-prir= eq in order
>> to submit it to the IESG.
>>
>> Please both reply-all to this email stating whether you are aware = of
>> any Intellectual Property Rights related to=C2=A0draft-ietf-dnssd-= prireq.
>> (Details of the IETF policies on this topic can be found in BCP 78= and
>> BCP 79).
>>
>> To everyone else in the WG, please reply only if you are aware of = any IPR.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------
>
> This e-mail can not be trusted due to SPF/DKIM validation failed.
>
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>

--

Dr. Daniel Kaiser
Research Associate
SnT- Interdisciplinary Centre for Security, Reliability and Trust

University of Luxembourg
Maison du Nombre (MNO)
6, avenue de la Fonte
L-4364 Esch-sur-Alzette
Office: E02 0225-010

--000000000000d58ed8059c46d975-- From nobody Tue Jan 28 07:32:11 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietf.org Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6C0120935; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 07:32:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: dnssd@ietf.org, dnssd-chairs@ietf.org, evyncke@cisco.com, bs7652@att.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.116.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <158022552604.4720.568416792029150650.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 07:32:06 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] dnssd - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 107 X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 15:32:09 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Barbara Stark, a Chair of the dnssd working group. --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Barbara Stark Number of Sessions: 2 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours, 1 Hour Number of Attendees: 75 Conflicts to Avoid: Chair Conflict: dnsop doh dprive homenet quic tls babel intarea httpbis 6man v6ops Technology Overlap: mls core anima pearg Key Participant Conflict: 6tisch rats roll lake People who must be present: Stephen Farrell Eric Vyncke Barbara Stark David Schinazi Resources Requested: Special Requests: dnssd and homenet would like to do a single joint 2 hour meeting. We'll figure out how to divide the time. --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Tue Jan 28 16:41:52 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietf.org Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA13120105; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 16:41:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: dnssd@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.116.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dnssd@ietf.org Message-ID: <158025851105.4716.16709243232357480636@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 16:41:51 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq-04.txt X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 00:41:51 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery WG of the IETF. Title : DNS-SD Privacy and Security Requirements Authors : Christian Huitema Daniel Kaiser Filename : draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq-04.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2020-01-28 Abstract: DNS-SD (DNS Service Discovery) normally discloses information about devices offering and requesting services. This information includes host names, network parameters, and possibly a further description of the corresponding service instance. Especially when mobile devices engage in DNS Service Discovery at a public hotspot, serious privacy problems arise. We analyze the requirements of a privacy respecting discovery service. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq-04 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq-04 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Jan 29 06:08:39 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietf.org Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B276C12011A; Wed, 29 Jan 2020 06:08:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.116.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Sender: CC: dnssd-chairs@ietf.org, dnssd@ietf.org, David Schinazi , dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com, evyncke@cisco.com, draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <158030690869.2728.6979359296283344203.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 06:08:28 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] Last Call: (DNS-SD Privacy and Security Requirements) to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 14:08:30 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery WG (dnssd) to consider the following document: - 'DNS-SD Privacy and Security Requirements' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2020-02-12. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract DNS-SD (DNS Service Discovery) normally discloses information about devices offering and requesting services. This information includes host names, network parameters, and possibly a further description of the corresponding service instance. Especially when mobile devices engage in DNS Service Discovery at a public hotspot, serious privacy problems arise. We analyze the requirements of a privacy respecting discovery service. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From nobody Thu Jan 30 11:15:17 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietf.org Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DCE12080E; Thu, 30 Jan 2020 11:15:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bob Halley via Datatracker To: Cc: draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq.all@ietf.org, last-call@ietf.org, dnssd@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.116.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Bob Halley Message-ID: <158041171662.10182.4141705117062266648@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 11:15:16 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] Intdir last call review of draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq-04 X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:15:17 -0000 Reviewer: Bob Halley Review result: Ready I am an assigned INT directorate reviewer for draft-ietf-dnssd-prireq. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the Internet Area Directors. Document editors and shepherd(s) should treat these comments just like they would treat comments from any other IETF contributors and resolve them along with any other Last Call comments that have been received. For more details on the INT Directorate, see http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate.html. The draft does a very good job explaining the problem space and its complexities. The guidance it offers for future extensions is sound. /Bob P.S. I liked the ASCII art.