From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sat Sep 7 01:09:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20ABF11E80F9; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 01:09:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.56 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.56 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.040, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b8u8aFyV8n5j; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 01:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5D111E80D1; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 01:09:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.70.p1 Message-ID: <20130907080952.19879.8577.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 01:09:52 -0700 Cc: domainrep@ietf.org Subject: [domainrep] I-D Action: draft-ietf-repute-media-type-12.txt X-BeenThere: domainrep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Domain Reputation discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 08:09:53 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Reputation Services Working Group of the = IETF. Title : A Media Type for Reputation Interchange Author(s) : Nathaniel Borenstein Murray S. Kucherawy Filename : draft-ietf-repute-media-type-12.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2013-09-07 Abstract: This document defines the format of reputation response data ("reputons"), the media-type for packaging it, and definition of a registry for the names of reputation applications and response sets. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-repute-media-type There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-repute-media-type-12 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-repute-media-type-12 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From internet-drafts@ietf.org Thu Sep 12 13:26:48 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9F721E80AC; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.558 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.558 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.042, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JaSw1gCued9a; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067B611E8249; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:26:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.71.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20130912202646.11468.66934.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:26:46 -0700 Cc: domainrep@ietf.org Subject: [domainrep] I-D Action: draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-10.txt X-BeenThere: domainrep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: Domain Reputation discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 20:26:49 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Reputation Services Working Group of the = IETF. Title : A Reputation Response Set for Email Identifiers Author(s) : Nathaniel Borenstein Murray S. Kucherawy Filename : draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-10.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2013-09-12 Abstract: This document defines a response set for describing assertions a reputation service provider can make about email identifers, for use in generating reputons. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-10 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From internet-drafts@ietf.org Thu Sep 12 14:23:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B13B21F9FD5; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:23:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.559 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.559 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.041, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9WLCcJGsPi4U; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D60821F9F9B; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:23:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.71.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20130912212322.16827.89401.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:23:22 -0700 Cc: domainrep@ietf.org Subject: [domainrep] I-D Action: draft-ietf-repute-query-http-11.txt X-BeenThere: domainrep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: Domain Reputation discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:23:25 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Reputation Services Working Group of the = IETF. Title : A Reputation Query Protocol Author(s) : Nathaniel Borenstein Murray S. Kucherawy Filename : draft-ietf-repute-query-http-11.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2013-09-12 Abstract: This document defines a mechanism to conduct queries for reputation information over the Hypertext Transfer Protocol using JSON as the payload meta-format. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-repute-query-http There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-repute-query-http-11 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-repute-query-http-11 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From internet-drafts@ietf.org Thu Sep 12 14:28:20 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8F611E80F4; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:28:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.56 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.56 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.040, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2ta7dbtmJvju; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4448E21E8225; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:28:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.71.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20130912212811.16366.69191.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:28:11 -0700 Cc: domainrep@ietf.org Subject: [domainrep] I-D Action: draft-ietf-repute-model-09.txt X-BeenThere: domainrep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: Domain Reputation discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:28:21 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Reputation Services Working Group of the = IETF. Title : An Architecture for Reputation Reporting Author(s) : Nathaniel Borenstein Murray S. Kucherawy Andrew Sullivan Filename : draft-ietf-repute-model-09.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2013-09-12 Abstract: This document describes a general architecture for a reputation-based service, allowing one to request reputation-related data over the Internet, where "reputation" refers to predictions or expectations about an entity or an identifier such as a domain name. The document roughly follows the recommendations of RFC4101 for describing a protocol model. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-repute-model There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-repute-model-09 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-repute-model-09 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sun Sep 15 14:40:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55E821F9FA4; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:40:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.564 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.564 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.036, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K6oqQWtjJS4q; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961B011E81B7; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:40:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.71.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20130915214012.3191.80822.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:40:12 -0700 Cc: domainrep@ietf.org Subject: [domainrep] I-D Action: draft-ietf-repute-media-type-13.txt X-BeenThere: domainrep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: Domain Reputation discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 21:40:15 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Reputation Services Working Group of the = IETF. Title : A Media Type for Reputation Interchange Author(s) : Nathaniel Borenstein Murray S. Kucherawy Filename : draft-ietf-repute-media-type-13.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2013-09-15 Abstract: This document defines the format of reputation response data ("reputons"), the media-type for packaging it, and definition of a registry for the names of reputation applications and response sets. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-repute-media-type There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-repute-media-type-13 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-repute-media-type-13 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From superuser@gmail.com Sun Sep 15 14:59:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCA311E815B for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:59:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.151, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A4dlKVnCwNOa for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22d.google.com (mail-wi0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A3F11E8104 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id hq15so2680735wib.0 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:59:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lz2faRbzbpqA6tNK2fHD8DAcNJEcwC0/DAptd6k83Yo=; b=CHFn62xjj4PQL9oyTndOWOS5n5vYWBSLwwItq9UOTScx3BpTTYMicG/zwG5eApmc1X e+cVzGdT4pIluiV+dI+Fde4n3r1rm4sFHEEw07QyR4RQQNiux/sMdC6SwfxVhxEBkgIG M1GVZqfGZpLAiGgg1caQKzd3689t16H2+XeN5W6Q0R5xFLSIZ/zjb6sFLdvhmELz0HdJ Aj+4ZGq3ApbxYgGstksaxpnPIG3jIyyfsznlN1qRoN3vvjl3/wVLTWZz8VFiVd69DtlS f7POopDNLZvQx8VxlNLjPVLZ2ziGspueIR3/9HiqQqlU+aBrZfMhDYhlUoyqf+BOI3Nf Maaw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.123.227 with SMTP id md3mr19535788wjb.17.1379282373715; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.106.169 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:59:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130915214012.3191.80822.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <20130915214012.3191.80822.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:59:33 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: "domainrep@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01229a58ee312504e6733350 Subject: Re: [domainrep] I-D Action: draft-ietf-repute-media-type-13.txt X-BeenThere: domainrep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Domain Reputation discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 21:59:36 -0000 --089e01229a58ee312504e6733350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 IESG Evaluation has completed for all four drafts, and they're on the verge of entering the RFC Editor queue. Pete There's one thing that should be brought to the WG's attention, in case it will be a problem for anyone: The JSON format described in the media-type document changed a bit on the advice of a couple of IESG members more well-versed in such things than I am. Anyone interested should go have a look and say something now if it's wrong-headed or going to create problems. I plan to modify the OpenDKIM implementation as soon as they enter the RFC Editor queue. -MSK On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 2:40 PM, wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Reputation Services Working Group of the > IETF. > > Title : A Media Type for Reputation Interchange > Author(s) : Nathaniel Borenstein > Murray S. Kucherawy > Filename : draft-ietf-repute-media-type-13.txt > Pages : 16 > Date : 2013-09-15 > > Abstract: > This document defines the format of reputation response data > ("reputons"), the media-type for packaging it, and definition of a > registry for the names of reputation applications and response sets. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-repute-media-type > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-repute-media-type-13 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-repute-media-type-13 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > --089e01229a58ee312504e6733350 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
IESG Evaluation has completed for all four draft= s, and they're on the verge of entering the RFC Editor queue.=A0 Pete <= br>
There's one thing that should be brought to the WG's a= ttention, in case it will be a problem for anyone: The JSON format describe= d in the media-type document changed a bit on the advice of a couple of IES= G members more well-versed in such things than I am.=A0 Anyone interested s= hould go have a look and say something now if it's wrong-headed or goin= g to create problems.=A0 I plan to modify the OpenDKIM implementation as so= on as they enter the RFC Editor queue.

-MSK



On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 2:40 PM, <internet-drafts= @ietf.org> wrote:

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
=A0This draft is a work item of the Reputation Services Working Group of th= e IETF.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Title =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : A Media Type for Reputation Int= erchange
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Author(s) =A0 =A0 =A0 : Nathaniel Borenstein
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Murray S. Kucherawy
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Filename =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0: draft-ietf-repute-media-type-13.t= xt
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Pages =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : 16
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Date =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0: 2013-09-15

Abstract:
=A0 =A0This document defines the format of reputation response data
=A0 =A0("reputons"), the media-type for packaging it, and definit= ion of a
=A0 =A0registry for the names of reputation applications and response sets.=


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-repute-media-t= ype

There's also a htmlized version available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-repute-media-type-13

A diff from the previous version is available at:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-repute-= media-type-13


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

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--089e01229a58ee312504e6733350-- From barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Mon Sep 16 19:28:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BC611E8195 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:28:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.981 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.981 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.004, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3g8DlPQnvp4s for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ve0-x22d.google.com (mail-ve0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::22d]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CCD21F9FC7 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f173.google.com with SMTP id cz12so3789514veb.32 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:28:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=zevzyyNiKZPoyKES/PfM/tGzQ6NCSJs9AJ/KXLjAXaQ=; b=bEMgkq49IRCxs1JmRakGaz+5u0GZbF1rM89Zl0/kZhurJHXrm1qmdtBfGAFsMAOFHh tWTQav9K8eI77pPeWVCeIyz0vNftQQOiroUc3BRz1C8aDllivO+LN7SLH06KYwxe+Iyh yGI/SGFTc144TKYzfxi9C/NzQozdHWXxfTR0GWb3iKSqpSR43ctj345W7GsE/caRB2+x xKQoPQlpLyJ92jDk5/kbtmg24c24LN1SgAZZXjb/wxnU0xmBwpWjZf8rb4yOc5haTWqc wSWAYnVbWptIFwmePZ9S18xKQPBQJlDbepyuGJXQfaJpW4VuAE+y5EDzdT+3udQMEepm Awlw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.46.72 with SMTP id i8mr30523012vcf.10.1379384911524; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Sender: barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.215.16 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:28:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20130915214012.3191.80822.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 22:28:31 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9NfldPCNUVnuMmGXLY5jlNv2_ww Message-ID: From: Barry Leiba To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2c674a8faa104e68b133e Cc: "domainrep@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [domainrep] I-D Action: draft-ietf-repute-media-type-13.txt X-BeenThere: domainrep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Domain Reputation discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 02:28:33 -0000 --001a11c2c674a8faa104e68b133e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > There's one thing that should be brought to the WG's attention, in case it > will be a problem for anyone: The JSON format described in the media-type > document changed a bit on the advice of a couple of IESG members more > well-versed in such things than I am. Anyone interested should go have a > look and say something now if it's wrong-headed or going to create problems. > In particular, since I was one of the ADs who asked for the changes, I'd like to say a few words about them. There are three main points: 1. The content-type parameter was moved into the JSON object. It seemed wrong to overload the media type wrapper with something that really belongs in the payload. 2. The set of reputons in the response was changed from a bunch of JSON objects that all have the same name to a JSON array. JSON says that object names SHOULD be unique, and it seemed wrong to violate that. And as long as the object names don't matter, it makes more sense to use an array. 3. The mechanism for defining the JSON format is no longer ABNF. The JSON spec already defines the ABNF for JSON, including all the delimiter characters, the DQUOTEs, where the whitespace can go, and so on with other fidgety bits. It seemed wrong and risky to re-define all that here. Instead, the JSON format is now defined in terms of JSON primitives. I think these are all important changes that go in the right direction. But the working group should review that, and anyone who disagrees should raise an issue. Barry, Applications AD --001a11c2c674a8faa104e68b133e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There's one t= hing that should be brought to the WG's attention, in case it will be a= problem for anyone: The JSON format described in the media-type document c= hanged a bit on the advice of a couple of IESG members more well-versed in = such things than I am.=A0 Anyone interested should go have a look and say s= omething now if it's wrong-headed or going to create problems.

In particular, since I w= as one of the ADs who asked for the changes, I'd like to=A0say a few wo= rds about them. =A0There are three main points:

1.= The content-type parameter was moved into the JSON object. =A0It seemed wr= ong to overload the media type wrapper=A0with something that really belongs= in the payload.

2. The set of reputons in the response was changed from= a bunch of JSON objects that all have the same name to a JSON array. =A0JS= ON says that object names SHOULD be unique, and it seemed wrong to violate = that. =A0And as long as the object names don't matter, it makes more se= nse to use an array.

3. The mechanism for defining the JSON format is no lon= ger ABNF. =A0The JSON spec already defines the ABNF for JSON, including all= the delimiter characters, the DQUOTEs, where the whitespace can go, and so= on with other fidgety bits. =A0It seemed wrong and risky to re-define all = that here. =A0Instead, the JSON format is now defined in terms of JSON prim= itives.

I think these are all important changes that go in the = right direction. =A0But the working group should review that, and anyone wh= o disagrees should raise an issue.

Barry, Applicat= ions AD

--001a11c2c674a8faa104e68b133e-- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Tue Sep 17 08:19:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D60911E8289; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:19:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.576 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.576 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.024, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rgWuj-0LFouR; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93C511E827A; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:19:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.71.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20130917151938.3237.4949.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:19:38 -0700 Cc: domainrep@ietf.org Subject: [domainrep] I-D Action: draft-ietf-repute-model-10.txt X-BeenThere: domainrep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: Domain Reputation discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:19:39 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Reputation Services Working Group of the = IETF. Title : An Architecture for Reputation Reporting Author(s) : Nathaniel Borenstein Murray S. Kucherawy Andrew Sullivan Filename : draft-ietf-repute-model-10.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2013-09-17 Abstract: This document describes a general architecture for a reputation-based service, allowing one to request reputation-related data over the Internet, where "reputation" refers to predictions or expectations about an entity or an identifier such as a domain name. The document roughly follows the recommendations of RFC4101 for describing a protocol model. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-repute-model There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-repute-model-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-repute-model-10 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Mon Sep 30 10:37:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9308121F9C52; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:37:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.52 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.080, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AO7NevxxSS5S; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBCB21F9C9B; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.72 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20130930173659.31558.36802.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:36:59 -0700 Cc: repute mailing list , repute chair , RFC Editor Subject: [domainrep] Protocol Action: 'An Architecture for Reputation Reporting' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-repute-model-10.txt) X-BeenThere: domainrep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: Domain Reputation discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:37:00 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'An Architecture for Reputation Reporting' (draft-ietf-repute-model-10.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Reputation Services Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Pete Resnick and Barry Leiba. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-repute-model/ Technical Summary Using work on SPF and DKIM for motivation, the draft builds upon recent work in email authentication. The document describes a basic architecture for reputation queries. It defines reputation as "the estimation in which an identifiable actor is held, especially by the community or the Internet public generally." The document sets the stage for detailed specifications by providing: o Vocabulary for the current work and work of this type; o The types and content of queries that can be supported; o The extensible range of response information that can be provided; o A query/response protocol; o Query/response transport conventions. Working Group Summary The document has gone through multiple drafts, over a period of time, that were discussed in the working group. Discussion was mild and supportive, with no significant controversy. The working group 'style' was mostly of a small, collaborative set of active participants, but has become quite dormant in recent months. Changes during AD Evaluation were passed by the few remaining active participants. The document includes some core material published previously, which means that it is already well-established. Equally, the document's terminology, model and discussion are reasonably straightforward and not controversial. Document Quality The document is well-organized, defines its scope and is usable in its current form. Personnel Document Shepherd: Dave Crocker Responsible AD: Pete Resnick From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Mon Sep 30 10:41:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1291021F915C; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.079, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k5hNI+xyClvN; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2564E21F9AF8; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.72 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20130930174147.31558.29910.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:41:47 -0700 Cc: repute mailing list , repute chair , RFC Editor Subject: [domainrep] Protocol Action: 'A Media Type for Reputation Interchange' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-repute-media-type-13.txt) X-BeenThere: domainrep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: Domain Reputation discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:41:49 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'A Media Type for Reputation Interchange' (draft-ietf-repute-media-type-13.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Reputation Services Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Pete Resnick and Barry Leiba. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-repute-media-type/ Technical Summary Once there is a validated identifier associated with an object or activity, it is possible to develop and communicate its behavioral "reputation". The current draft is part of an effort to define a reputation query/report mechanism. This draft specifically defines the response syntax and format and the media-type for packaging it. Working Group Summary The document has gone through multiple drafts, over a period of time, that were discussed in the working group. Discussion was mild and supportive, with no significant controversy. The working group 'style' was mostly of a small, collaborative set of active participants, but has become quite dormant in recent months. Changes during AD Evaluation were passed by the few remaining active participants. Document Quality The specified protocol is reasonable simple and flexible, tailored to the semantics of requesting reputation-related attributes about a "subject". Personnel Document Shepherd: Dave Crocker Responsible AD: Pete Resnick From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Mon Sep 30 10:44:41 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C584021F9BF7; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:44:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.078, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id reYzN69V0tIx; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC1521F9D5E; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.72 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20130930174430.31558.4521.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:44:30 -0700 Cc: repute mailing list , repute chair , RFC Editor Subject: [domainrep] Protocol Action: 'A Reputation Query Protocol' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-repute-query-http-11.txt) X-BeenThere: domainrep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: Domain Reputation discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:44:43 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'A Reputation Query Protocol' (draft-ietf-repute-query-http-11.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Reputation Services Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Pete Resnick and Barry Leiba. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-repute-query-http/ Technical Summary Once there is a validated identifier associated with an object or activity, it is possible to develop and communicate its behavioral "reputation". The current draft is part of an effort to define a reputation query/report mechanism. This draft specifically defines the query/response protocol and its conveyance over HTTP. Working Group Summary The document has gone through multiple drafts, over a period of time, that were discussed in the working group. Discussion was mild and supportive, with no significant controversy. The working group 'style' was mostly of a small, collaborative set of active participants, but has become quite dormant in recent months. Changes during AD Evaluation were passed by the few remaining active participants. Document Quality The specified protocol is reasonable simple and flexible, tailored to the semantics of requesting reputation-related attributes about a "subject". Personnel Document Shepherd: Dave Crocker Responsible AD: Pete Resnick From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Mon Sep 30 11:07:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: domainrep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A2321F9344; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:07:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.523 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.077, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JjzdIrQVbtwG; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61ED21F9BB6; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.72 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20130930180703.31558.22340.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:07:03 -0700 Cc: repute mailing list , repute chair , RFC Editor Subject: [domainrep] Protocol Action: 'A Reputation Response Set for Email Identifiers' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-10.txt) X-BeenThere: domainrep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: Domain Reputation discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:07:07 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'A Reputation Response Set for Email Identifiers' (draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-10.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Reputation Services Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Pete Resnick and Barry Leiba. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers/ Technical Summary Once there is a validated identifier associated with an object or activity, it is possible to develop and communicate its behavioral "reputation". The current draft builds upon the core mechanism, to specify a profile tailored for reporting reputation associated with email-based identifiers. Working Group Summary The document has gone through multiple drafts, over a period of time, that were discussed in the working group. Discussion was mild and supportive, with no significant controversy. The working group 'style' was mostly of a small, collaborative set of active participants, but has become quite dormant in recent months. Changes during AD Evaluation were passed by the few remaining active participants. Document Quality The specified protocol is reasonable simple and flexible, tailored to the semantics of requesting reputation-related attributes about a "subject". Personnel Document Shepherd: Dave Crocker Responsible AD: Pete Resnick