From bernie@ietf.hoeneisen.ch Thu Jun 3 13:02:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: e2md@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: e2md@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C7C3A6A13; Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:02:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.126 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.126 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.873, BAYES_50=0.001, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, GB_I_LETTER=-2] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9GifzDgXdNsP; Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from softronics.hoeneisen.ch (softronics.hoeneisen.ch [62.2.86.178]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D5F3A67E9; Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by softronics.hoeneisen.ch with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OKGbp-0003dW-Hh; Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:01:45 +0200 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:01:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Bernie Hoeneisen X-X-Sender: bhoeneis@softronics.hoeneisen.ch To: IETF ENUM list , "E.164 To MetaData BOF discussion list" Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: bernie@ietf.hoeneisen.ch X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on softronics.hoeneisen.ch); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: [e2md] IETF 78 - Meeting and Sponsorship Information (fwd) X-BeenThere: e2md@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "E.164 To MetaData \(E2MD\) BOF discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 20:02:02 -0000 FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- 78th IETF Meeting Maastricht, Netherlands July 25-30, 2010 1. Sponsorship Opportunities 2. Registration Types 3. Visas and Letters of Invitation 4. Accommodations & Breakfast Information 5. IETF 79 (Beijing) Visa Information 1) Sponsorship Opportunities There are still sponsorship opportunities and benefits for high profile company/organizational exposure at the upcoming IETF meeting in Maastricht, Netherlands from July 25-30, 2010. All sponsorship fees go directly to fund the operations of the IETF. See the options at: http://www.ietf.org/meeting/78/index.html ?Sponsorship Opportunities? under ?General?. Each of the sponsorship options provide extended and repeat exposure at this weeklong meeting. Please contact Drew Dvorshak, dvorshak@isoc.org, with any questions and/or to reserve your organization?s spot. Thanks in advance for supporting the critical work of the IETF! 2) Register online at: http://www.ietf.org/meetings/78/ 3) Letters of Invitation and Visas Letters of Invitation After you complete the meeting registration process, you will be given the option to request a letter of invitation. You can request the Letter of Invitation as soon as you finish registration, or at a later time by following the link provided in the confirmation email. Visas Please check the Netherlands Ministry of Foreign Affairs site (http://www.minbuza.nl/en/Services/Consular_Services/Visa) for list of countries with visa exemptions. We recommend you give yourself at least one month to complete the visa process. 4) Accommodations & Breakfast Information http://www.ietf.org/meeting/78/hotel.html 5) If you want to start planning for your trip to IETF 79 in Beijing, we have visa information online here: http://www.ietf.org/meeting/79/visa.html Only 52 days until IETF 78! From bernie@ietf.hoeneisen.ch Mon Jun 7 08:21:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: e2md@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: e2md@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B983A67E7 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 08:21:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.24 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.24 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[SARE_LWSHORTT=1.24] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1cAyqJeU9oFt for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 08:21:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from softronics.hoeneisen.ch (softronics.hoeneisen.ch [62.2.86.178]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B087F3A909F for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by softronics.hoeneisen.ch with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLNIK-00044T-E0 for e2md@ietf.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 23:22:12 +0200 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:22:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Bernie Hoeneisen X-X-Sender: bhoeneis@softronics.hoeneisen.ch To: "E.164 To MetaData BOF discussion list" Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: bernie@ietf.hoeneisen.ch X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on softronics.hoeneisen.ch); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: [e2md] E2MD discussions in Maastricht X-BeenThere: e2md@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "E.164 To MetaData \(E2MD\) BOF discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 15:21:45 -0000 Hi E2MD:ers For your information: After our last conference call I talked to our AD (Gonzalo) about the possibilities to discuss e2md in Maastricht. We agreed to allocate an ENUM WG slot for this purpose. This discussion will be around problem statement / requirements / use cases (short term requirements only), to produce an agreeable charter for a WG to be formed later-on. There will be a 2nd discussion in the form of a Bar BoF that will focus on how to deal with all the objections we got in Anaheim. [If anybody wants to discuss about long term requirements (source dependent answers, big size DNS RR and other highly controversial topics), feel free to request a separate Bar BoF in Maastricht.] Note: The fact that the 1st discussion takes place in the ENUM WG might be misunderstood as bypassing the normal IETF process. Just to make it clear: Wherever the E2MD work is going to end up, the (approval) process for chartering this work will be just the same. cheers, Bernie -- http://ucom.ch/ Tech Consulting for Internet Standardization From bernie@ietf.hoeneisen.ch Sun Jun 20 12:59:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: e2md@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: e2md@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2807E3A68B5 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:59:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.974 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.974 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.625, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QVkYmrbKS9VY for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from softronics.hoeneisen.ch (softronics.hoeneisen.ch [62.2.86.178]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091033A67EC for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by softronics.hoeneisen.ch with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OQQgT-00061n-On for e2md@ietf.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:00:01 +0200 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:00:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Bernie Hoeneisen X-X-Sender: bhoeneis@softronics.hoeneisen.ch To: "E.164 To MetaData BOF discussion list" Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: bernie@ietf.hoeneisen.ch X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on softronics.hoeneisen.ch); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: [e2md] Doodle: Link for poll "4th E2MD conference call" X-BeenThere: e2md@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "E.164 To MetaData \(E2MD\) BOF discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:59:58 -0000 Dear E2MD:ers As you know we got an ENUM WG slot to discuss E2MD. As preparation we need: - a properly worked out, agreeable Draft-Charter containing a problem statement, use case, etc. for each E2MD service, which will be worked on in the first round: g-spid, cnam, service capabilities (unused, send-n) as decided in the last conference call - Internet-Drafts (or updates) on E2MD services we would like to standardize Goal of this conference call: - Preparation E2MD (ENUM) session for Maastricht We will decide on who does what by when. Please indicate your availabilities at: http://www.doodle.com/a4rntsbrwqruhx5b by Tuesday, June 22nd Duration: 1h cheers, Bernie From bernie@ietf.hoeneisen.ch Thu Jun 24 12:34:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: e2md@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: e2md@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392713A6885 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:34:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.752 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.752 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.753, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zhOutBs5Lbt6 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from softronics.hoeneisen.ch (softronics.hoeneisen.ch [62.2.86.178]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D109F3A6855 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by softronics.hoeneisen.ch with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORsB1-0001IV-74 for e2md@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:33:31 +0200 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:33:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Bernie Hoeneisen X-X-Sender: bhoeneis@softronics.hoeneisen.ch To: "E.164 To MetaData BOF discussion list" Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: bernie@ietf.hoeneisen.ch X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on softronics.hoeneisen.ch); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: [e2md] 4th e2md conference call, 29 June 2010, 17:00 UT X-BeenThere: e2md@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "E.164 To MetaData \(E2MD\) BOF discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:34:01 -0000 Dear e2md:ers, Please find the details of the 4th e2md conference call below: * Date/Time: Thursday, 29 June 2010, 17:00 UT (18:00 BST, 19:00 CEST, 13:00 EDT) Duration: 60 min * Dial-In: - SIP: sip:60@mcu-hd.switch.ch --> Conference ID: 60 # - H.323: h323:60@mcu-hd.switch.ch --> Conference ID: 60 # - PSTN: +41 44 250 96 60 * Collaboration Tool: http://collab.switch.ch/ietf-e2md (as usual we will use this during the call) * Goal Preparation E2MD (ENUM WG) session for Maastricht, and decide on who does what by when. * Agenda (draft): 1) Welcome / Roll-Call / Scribe 2) Gathering Input for making a charter proposal Background: - We decided to go for the following approach: - Narrow down the problem space to E2MD services for: - g-spid, cnam, service capabilities, (unused, and send-n) - For each E2MD service - document the requirements, and - develop an individual solution as PS - Longer term requirements are out-of-scope for this approach - See also: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/e2md/trac/wiki 3) Decide how does what by when Deadlines: http://www.ietf.org/meeting/cutoff-dates-2010.html#IETF78 a) Write I-Ds on the E2MD services containing a concise problem statement, requirments use cases, etc. (avoid a particular solution at this point in time, as any solution almost certainly triggers nasty objections.) - g-spid (Penn) - cnam (Rich?) - service capabilities (...?) - unused (Lawrence?) - send-n (Ray?) b) Work out charter proposal to be discussed in Maastricht (Dave?) Note: 3a) is a precondition for 3b) 4) AOB Note: The discussion was rather fuzzy in some recent conf calls. If during this call there is a need to structure the discussion and give also the less "dominant" participants a chance to speak, we will use the collaboration tool to maintain a speakers list, which has a built-in "Raise hand" function. cheers, Bernie -- http://ucom.ch/ Tech Consulting for Internet Standardization From dean.willis@softarmor.com Thu Jun 24 17:41:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: e2md@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: e2md@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D3D28C0E4 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:41:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.555, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qqQZngV7VvLZ for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nylon.softarmor.com (nylon.softarmor.com [66.135.38.164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992653A69EE for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.113] (cpe-66-25-30-183.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.30.183]) (authenticated bits=0) by nylon.softarmor.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id o5P0fDOc005452 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:41:14 -0500 Message-Id: From: Dean Willis To: Bernie Hoeneisen In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:41:05 -0500 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: "E.164 To MetaData BOF discussion list" Subject: Re: [e2md] 4th e2md conference call, 29 June 2010, 17:00 UT X-BeenThere: e2md@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "E.164 To MetaData \(E2MD\) BOF discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 00:41:19 -0000 Thursday and 29 June are mutually exclusive according to my calendar. Which did you have in mind? On Jun 24, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Bernie Hoeneisen wrote: > Dear e2md:ers, > > Please find the details of the 4th e2md conference call below: > > > * Date/Time: > > Thursday, 29 June 2010, 17:00 UT (18:00 BST, 19:00 CEST, 13:00 EDT) > Duration: 60 min > > > * Dial-In: > > - SIP: sip:60@mcu-hd.switch.ch --> Conference ID: 60 # > - H.323: h323:60@mcu-hd.switch.ch --> Conference ID: 60 # > - PSTN: +41 44 250 96 60 > > > * Collaboration Tool: > > http://collab.switch.ch/ietf-e2md > (as usual we will use this during the call) > > > * Goal > > Preparation E2MD (ENUM WG) session for Maastricht, and > decide on who does what by when. > > > * Agenda (draft): > > 1) Welcome / Roll-Call / Scribe > > 2) Gathering Input for making a charter proposal > > Background: > > - We decided to go for the following approach: > - Narrow down the problem space to E2MD services for: > - g-spid, cnam, service capabilities, (unused, and send-n) > - For each E2MD service > - document the requirements, and > - develop an individual solution as PS > - Longer term requirements are out-of-scope for this approach > > - See also: > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/e2md/trac/wiki > > > 3) Decide how does what by when > > Deadlines: http://www.ietf.org/meeting/cutoff-dates-2010.html#IETF78 > > a) Write I-Ds on the E2MD services containing a concise > problem statement, requirments use cases, etc. > (avoid a particular solution at this point in time, > as any solution almost certainly triggers nasty objections.) > > - g-spid (Penn) > - cnam (Rich?) > - service capabilities (...?) > - unused (Lawrence?) > - send-n (Ray?) > > b) Work out charter proposal to be discussed in Maastricht > (Dave?) > > Note: 3a) is a precondition for 3b) > > > 4) AOB > > > > Note: The discussion was rather fuzzy in some recent conf calls. > If during this call there is a need to structure the discussion > and give also the less "dominant" participants a chance to > speak, > we will use the collaboration tool to maintain a speakers list, > which has a built-in "Raise hand" function. > > > cheers, > Bernie > > -- > > http://ucom.ch/ > Tech Consulting for Internet Standardization > > _______________________________________________ > e2md mailing list > e2md@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/e2md > From bernie@ietf.hoeneisen.ch Thu Jun 24 23:58:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: e2md@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: e2md@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4F93A6934 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:58:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.995 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.995 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.604, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TkMCqmKlrUKJ for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from softronics.hoeneisen.ch (softronics.hoeneisen.ch [62.2.86.178]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165473A6924 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by softronics.hoeneisen.ch with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OS2ru-0005iL-F0; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:58:30 +0200 Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:58:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Bernie Hoeneisen X-X-Sender: bhoeneis@softronics.hoeneisen.ch To: Dean Willis In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: bernie@ietf.hoeneisen.ch X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on softronics.hoeneisen.ch); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: "E.164 To MetaData BOF discussion list" Subject: Re: [e2md] 4th e2md conference call, Tue 29 June 2010, 17:00 UT X-BeenThere: e2md@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "E.164 To MetaData \(E2MD\) BOF discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:58:26 -0000 Ouuupss...thanks for reporting this. I meant _Tuesday_, 29th of June. Sorry about that. cheers, Bernie -- http://ucom.ch/ Tech Consulting for Internet Standardization On Thu, 24 Jun 2010, Dean Willis wrote: > > Thursday and 29 June are mutually exclusive according to my calendar. Which > did you have in mind? > > On Jun 24, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Bernie Hoeneisen wrote: > >> Dear e2md:ers, >> >> Please find the details of the 4th e2md conference call below: >> >> >> * Date/Time: >> >> Thursday, 29 June 2010, 17:00 UT (18:00 BST, 19:00 CEST, 13:00 EDT) >> Duration: 60 min >> >> >> * Dial-In: >> >> - SIP: sip:60@mcu-hd.switch.ch --> Conference ID: 60 # >> - H.323: h323:60@mcu-hd.switch.ch --> Conference ID: 60 # >> - PSTN: +41 44 250 96 60 >> >> >> * Collaboration Tool: >> >> http://collab.switch.ch/ietf-e2md >> (as usual we will use this during the call) >> >> >> * Goal >> >> Preparation E2MD (ENUM WG) session for Maastricht, and >> decide on who does what by when. >> >> >> * Agenda (draft): >> >> 1) Welcome / Roll-Call / Scribe >> >> 2) Gathering Input for making a charter proposal >> >> Background: >> >> - We decided to go for the following approach: >> - Narrow down the problem space to E2MD services for: >> - g-spid, cnam, service capabilities, (unused, and send-n) >> - For each E2MD service >> - document the requirements, and >> - develop an individual solution as PS >> - Longer term requirements are out-of-scope for this approach >> >> - See also: >> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/e2md/trac/wiki >> >> >> 3) Decide how does what by when >> >> Deadlines: http://www.ietf.org/meeting/cutoff-dates-2010.html#IETF78 >> >> a) Write I-Ds on the E2MD services containing a concise >> problem statement, requirments use cases, etc. >> (avoid a particular solution at this point in time, >> as any solution almost certainly triggers nasty objections.) >> >> - g-spid (Penn) >> - cnam (Rich?) >> - service capabilities (...?) >> - unused (Lawrence?) >> - send-n (Ray?) >> >> b) Work out charter proposal to be discussed in Maastricht (Dave?) >> >> Note: 3a) is a precondition for 3b) >> >> >> 4) AOB >> >> >> >> Note: The discussion was rather fuzzy in some recent conf calls. >> If during this call there is a need to structure the discussion >> and give also the less "dominant" participants a chance to speak, >> we will use the collaboration tool to maintain a speakers list, >> which has a built-in "Raise hand" function. >> >> >> cheers, >> Bernie >> >> -- >> >> http://ucom.ch/ >> Tech Consulting for Internet Standardization >> >> _______________________________________________ >> e2md mailing list >> e2md@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/e2md >> > From pp3129@att.com Tue Jun 29 10:58:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: e2md@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: e2md@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8693A6C19 for ; 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Penn Pfautz AT&T Access Management +1-732-420-4962 -----Original Message----- From: e2md-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:e2md-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bernie Hoeneisen Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 2:59 AM To: Dean Willis Cc: E.164 To MetaData BOF discussion list Subject: Re: [e2md] 4th e2md conference call, Tue 29 June 2010, 17:00 UT Ouuupss...thanks for reporting this. I meant _Tuesday_, 29th of June. Sorry about that. cheers, Bernie -- http://ucom.ch/ Tech Consulting for Internet Standardization On Thu, 24 Jun 2010, Dean Willis wrote: > > Thursday and 29 June are mutually exclusive according to my calendar. 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2010 12:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by softronics.hoeneisen.ch with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTgtf-00049e-Kx; Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:55:07 +0200 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:55:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Bernie Hoeneisen X-X-Sender: bhoeneis@softronics.hoeneisen.ch To: "E.164 To MetaData BOF discussion list" Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: bernie@ietf.hoeneisen.ch X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on softronics.hoeneisen.ch); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: [e2md] Problem Statments for each E2MD service X-BeenThere: e2md@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "E.164 To MetaData \(E2MD\) BOF discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 19:55:05 -0000 Hi, As you can read in the rough minutes Penn just sent, we agreed in today's conference call on some work to be delivered within less than one week: A) Dave, Ray and Penn will work on a Charter Proposal Deadline for first shot: Monday, July 5th B) I agreed to collect the input on problem statements for each E2MD service and, if (and only if) I get a sufficient input in amount and quality, I will write and submit I-D containing these problem statements by Monday July 5th (I-D submission deadline). For B) I need input on the problem statement of the following E2MD services: 1) g-spid (Penn) 2) cnam (Rich ?) 3) service capabilities (Penn) 4) unused (Lawrence ? / Jim ? / Hadriel ?) 5) send-n (Ray) The names in brackets are those who I expect primary input from (Lawrence, Jim, Hadriel and Rich were not on the call and did not confirm their assistance yet). Others are invited to also provide any information that might contribute to the development of this I-D. The problem statement should contain information about: a) What is the problem that the particular E2MD service is addressing? b) How does a solution improve the situation? (no technical details) c) Who has this problem? (specific groups that you know to have specific, near-term needs) d) Any other information needed to understand the problem space Please send your input on the problem statement of the E2MD services listed above to the E2MD mailing list latest by Friday, 02 July 2010! (If you prefer, you can also send your input to me privately.) Feel free to ask any questions that might come up. Have a nice evening! cheers, Bernie -- http://ucom.ch/ Tech Consulting for Internet Standardization