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with the Goats horns, he safely reached the mouth of the well and made
off as fast as he could. When the Goat upbraided him for breaking his
promise, he turned around and cried out, You foolish old fellow! If you
had as many brains in your head as you have hairs in your beard, you
would never have gone down before you had inspected the way up, nor have
exposed yourself to dangers from which you had no means of escape. Look
before you leap. The Bear and the Two Travelers TWO MEN were traveling
together, when a Bear suddenly met them on their path. One of them
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himself with the Goats horns, he safely reached the mouth of the
well and made off as fast as he could.  When the Goat upbraided
him for breaking his promise, he turned around and cried out,
You foolish old fellow! If you had as many brains in your head
as you have hairs in your beard, you would never have gone down
before you had inspected the way up, nor have exposed yourself to
dangers from which you had no means of escape. =20
Look before you leap. =20
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Remington Ventures Inc. Changes the $1.5 Trillion Daily Currency Exchange Market

Company: Remington Ventures Inc.
Symbol: RMVN
Last Price: $0.51
Short Term: $1.75
Long Term: $4.00 - $4.50

Remington Ventures is a publicly traded software company specializing in automated 
currency trading systems and artificial neural networks for the currency markets. 

Remington Ventures has been working on the development of new systems for the 
past 12 months that will change the face of Forex Trading or FX Market (Global
Currency Exchange). 


What is this Market?

A true 24-hour market, Forex trading begins each day in Sydney, and moves 
around the globe as the business day begins in each financial center, first to 
Tokyo, London, and New York. Unlike any other financial market, investors can 
respond to currency fluctuations caused by economic, social and political events 
at the time they occur - day or night. 


Here is What the Technology Does

Remington Ventures has developed a software system that automatically renders 
neural network predictions from real time data. This new system is continuously 
improving itself to isolate the most predictable and lucrative instrument(s) 
to trade. The system's neural network input database is designed so that the 
neural net actually chooses the instrument to trade as well as the trade parameters.

Some additional features of the their automated currency trading system is:

* Neural network pattern recognition
* Real time economic data input
* Automatic trading
* Proprietary input database structure
* Real time training and prediction
* Designed for single user deployment
* Selectable market and trading routines

A neural network is a software (or hardware) simulation of a biological brain 
(sometimes called Artificial Neural Network or "ANN"). The purpose of a neural 
network is to learn to recognize patterns in your data. Once the neural network 
has been trained on samples of your data, it can make predictions by detecting 
similar patterns in future data. Software that learns is truly "Artificial 
Intelligence". 

Remington Ventures takes the guesswork out of trading because we pre-train and 
maintain our Neural Networks for you.

Selectable market and trading routines are standardized protocols for prediction 
software built into the system to make it more competitive. These protocols enable 
the system to better identify and quickly execute trading opportunities in the 
market to generate higher profits for the trader.


So what does this mean?

This new system will change the market itself and push this company through the roof.
We are excited at the potential this company has and the direction it is set to take.

This new system was delivered by outsourced developers in November and is now in 
Operation. We are expecting full market announcements with their upcoming market plans
in early 2006.

At 51 cents this is a easy walk in for a company that can easily climb to the $4 range
with these new developments in the first quarter of 2006.

Check out there website and learn more about their system, but most of all get in on
this stock while the price is right.




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Date: 4 Jan 2006
Investment Times Alert: (STRONG)
Harbin Pingchuan Pharmaceutical: PGCN
Current Price: $0.47
Shares Outstanding: 20 Million 
Market Capitalization: $6 Million 
Short Term Target: $2.25 
12month Target: $8 

*********INVESTER ALERT ISSUED FOR WEDNESDAY********* 
 
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TRADING SYMBOL: PGCN 
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SmallCap-Investors issued this Alert for Jan 4. 
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STOCK MAKES MAJOR MOVE !!!

DARK DYNAMITE INC (OTC BB:DKDY.OB) 
Market Cap: 1.16M 
SYMBOL: DKDY
LAST PRICE: $1.65
1 WEEK PROJECTION: $4
Stock Jump On its Way 

DKDY has had a great deal of exposure in the market over the 
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However, we are telling you something more important than that. 

DKDY has had a pattern for a while of large Jumps in Price 
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Put your bid in for the market open on Thursday January 5th and get on 
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Long-term investments are great but fast cash can be exciting. 

Read all the news releases on this great company to see why 
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Remember members, buy low sell high and move fast.

A Must Watch in Effect For December 5, 2005
We have watched DKDY and we feel they have something brewing, 
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We think this can go to $3 will no news, what will happen 
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Hi Mats,

These are the exact types of issues we are trying to address in HOAKEY =
"group".
You have a BS that does not necessarily have pass-through authenticator =
or even AAA client functionality, but terminates the link encryption =
(802.16e) in your case and this means TSKs that are established between =
peer and authenticator are not relevant for access link. We started to =
introduce a new term link session key (LSK) for that purpose in our =
initial PS draft. Looking at the definition of LSK in the initial PS =
draft=20

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-nakhjiri-aaa-hokey-ps-00.txt

I think that definition also needs to be revised. But the point is that =
the draft is trying to address the issues with using EAP keying =
terminology and methodology for design of handover key management.

The PMK is also confusing, and I think it is only mentioned because =
802.11 uses it.

Madjid



Transient Session Keys (TSKs)
     Session keys used to protect data exchanged in a session between
     the peer and authenticator after the EAP authentication has
     successfully completed.  TSKs are appropriate for the lower layer
     ciphersuite negotiated between the ports of the EAP peer and
     authenticator.  Examples of TSK derivation are provided in Appendix
     B.

MN: Here I have some trouble... This seems to mandate that protection =
(on the network side) MUST be terminated in the authenticator.
In WiMAX, the authenticator is in the AGW, but the session protection is =
in the BS.

I.e. it is not clear why both PMK and TSK should be shared between the =
same two entities... Doesn't one shared key suufice?

   TSKs are permitted to be accessed only by the EAP peer and
   authenticator.  Since the TSKs can be determined from the transported

MN: does this imply that the authenticator always needs to be in the =
"base station"? (since the base station will know TSKs)

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=20
Question:=20

Say, I have a local key distribution center (LKDC) within the network =
that can receive the MSK or something similar from the AAA/EAP server =
and generate other keys (say for handover). I am guessing the =
requirement below mean this LKDC has to be a AAA client or even more =
specific a collocated AAA client/ pass-through authenticator? so that =
the AAA layer receives the MSK?


-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [eap] issue: key separation (review of eap-keying-08 by =
matsnaslund)

Submitter name: Mats Naslund
Submitter email address: Mats.Naslund@ericsson.com
Reference: (this email)
Document: Keying Framework
Comment type: T
Priority: 1
Section: multiple
Rationale/Explanation of issue:

   In order to preserve the security of keys derived within EAP methods,
   lower layers other than AAA MUST NOT export keys passed down by EAP
   methods.  This implies that EAP keying material or parameters passed
   down to a lower layer are for the exclusive use of that lower layer
   and MUST NOT be used within another lower layer.  This prevents
   compromise of one lower layer from compromising other applications
   using EAP keying parameters.

MN: I guess this is "key separation"... But if this is a MUST =
requirement, why not here standardize a way to do it? I.e.

    lower_layer_key =3D f(MSK, layer_ID).

   In order to provide method independence, key
   management of exported or derived keys SHOULD NOT be provided within
   EAP methods.

MN: does this exclude that EAP can provide key separation?

   Since neither EAP nor EAP methods provide key management support, it
   is RECOMMENDED that key management facilities be provided within the
   Secure Association Protocol.  This includes:

MN: But if the MSK is always sent to the SA protocol, it really does not =
help if the SA protocol does e.g. key separation. Compromise of the =
"entity" hosting the SA protocol would still compromise the MSK. I guess =
I am asking: is there a "middle layer" missing, between EAP and the SA =
procotol that takes care of key separation?


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Let me see if I understand this.

Peer--------authenticator-----------EAP server
			AAA client------AAA server=20

The way I understand it, the authenticator is simply a pass-through, so
it is visible to the peer according the EAP documentation, so the peer
knows the authenticator ID. The authenticator does not really have to
have AAA functionality to assist EAP, does it. It is the really the AAA
client that encapsulates the EAP signaling into AAA protocol
Since AAA function is really not visible to the peer, the AAA client
does not have to be visible to the peer. The AAA client is the entity
that deals with AAA server and hence receives the transported EAP keying
material (not the authenticator, right?).
The "co-resident" requirement seems to only serve the purpose of fixing
the channel binding issue, since the peer sees the authenticator, while
the server sees the AAA client. I think this limits the usage of EAP
keying. If I have a key distribution center that wants to say do
handover keying and if I want the KDC to receive the master keys from
EAP server, it means KDC must be a AAA client and the above requirement
means a KDC cannot be geographically separate from the authenticator.
All this because we are trying to solve the channel binding problem??

Any comments?

Madjid=20


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Subject: RE: [eap] Issue: Requirement on transport of EAP keying
material

I think the issue here is similar to the one brought up in Issue 313.
An EAP authenticator may be constructed in a variety of ways.  Whether
the authenticator has multiple ports or a single port,  involves
multiple CPUs or a single CPU, or even is constructed using lightweight
APs and a WLAN switch is not relevant to EAP.

For EAP purposes, an Authenticator is an entity that identifies itself
with a single authenticator identity, both within the lower layer as
well as in AAA.  Neither the EAP peer nor the AAA server care about the
details of how the authenticator is constructed, and neither should this
document.

So when the document says that the "Authenticator and AAA cilent are
co-resident" it means that both the Authenticator and AAA client share
the same authenticator identity.  This is required, because if it were
not true then Channel Bindings would fail to verify.  That's probably
all we can or should say on this subject.

>From: "Salowey, Joe" <jsalowey@cisco.com>
>To: <eap@frascone.com>
>Subject: [eap] Issue: Requirement on transport of EAP keying material
>Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 15:14:01 -0800
>
>Submitter name: Joe Salowey
>Submitter email address: jsalowey@cisco.com Date first submitted:=20
>12/1/2005
>Reference:
>Document: Keying Framework
>Comment type: 'T'echnical
>Priority: '1' Should fix
>Section: 2.2
>Rationale/Explanation of issue:
>
>The document states
>
>"In order to prevent the compromise of
>    transported EAP keying material and parameters, the AAA client and
>    EAP authenticator MUST be co-resident."
>
>It could be possible for the EAP authenticator to use another secure=20
>protocol other than a AAA protocol to transport EAP key material.
>
>Requested change:
>
>"In order to prevent the compromise of
>    transported EAP keying material and parameters they MUST be=20
>securely transmitted from the entity that hosts the EAP server to the=20
>entity that hosts the EAP authenticator and makes use of the key
material."
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I don't see how the proposed change makes anything any different?=20

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Subject: [eap] Issue: Requirement on transport of EAP keying material

Submitter name: Joe Salowey
Submitter email address: jsalowey@cisco.com Date first submitted:
12/1/2005
Reference:
Document: Keying Framework
Comment type: 'T'echnical
Priority: '1' Should fix
Section: 2.2
Rationale/Explanation of issue:

The document states=20

"In order to prevent the compromise of
   transported EAP keying material and parameters, the AAA client and
   EAP authenticator MUST be co-resident."

It could be possible for the EAP authenticator to use another secure
protocol other than a AAA protocol to transport EAP key material. =20

Requested change:

"In order to prevent the compromise of
   transported EAP keying material and parameters they MUST be securely
transmitted from the entity that hosts the EAP server to the entity that
hosts the EAP authenticator and makes use of the key material."
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Dear Friend,

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defiled all forms of medicine, and right now I have only about a few months 
to live, according to medical experts.

I have not particularly lived my life so well, as I never really cared for 
anyone not even myself but my business. Though I am very rich, I was never 
generous, I was always hostile to people and only focus on my business as 
that was the only thing I cared for. But now I regret all this as I now know 
that there is more to life than just wanting to have or make all the money 
in the world.

I believe when God gives me a second chance to come to this world I would 
live my life a different way from how I have lived it. Now that God! has 
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want God to be merciful to me and accept my soul and so, I have decided to 
give alms to charity organizations, as I want this to be one of the last 
good deeds I do on earth.

So far, I have distributed money to some charity organizations in the U.A.E, 
Algeria and Malaysia. Now that my health has deteriorated so badly, I cannot 
do this my self any more. I once asked members of my family to close one of 
my accounts and distribute the money which I have there to charity 
organization in Bulgaria and
Pakistan; they refused and kept the money to themselves.

Hence, I do not trust them anymore, as they seem not to be contended with 
what I have left for them. The last of my money which no one knows of is the 
huge cash deposit of twenty four million dollars that I have with a security 
company in London England. And i deposited it as a diplomatic valuable not 
as cash and the security company does not know what is insider the box.

I will want you to help me collect this deposit and dispatched it to charity 
organizations.

I have set aside 20% for you for your time and patience.
God be with you.

Frank Tata.

NB: please you and i are the only people that know the content of this trunk 
box,pls do not disclose it to anyone. And get back to me for more 
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DARK DYNAMITE INC (OTC BB:DKDY.OB) 
Date: 2006 Jan 6
Symbol: DKDY 
Todays Open: $1.61
Short Term: $3.00
Long Term: $9.50 - $11.00
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in the coming years. The 3rd Highway is invested in by the Xi'an Government, 
with a total investment of RMB500 million (equal to US$61.7 million). 
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reduced from 30 minutes to around 20 minutes, thus greatly benefiting 
tourists for traveling to the E-Pang Palace, as well as promoting 
the attractiveness of the E-Pang Palace for tourists. 
Since the is Theme Park located at the centre of many historic sites 
of Xi'an city, such as the famous Emperor Qin's Terra-cotta Warriors 
and Horses Museum, the Mausoleum of Emperor Qin, Huaqing Hot-springs, 
and Fa'men Temple. After the completion of the 3rd Highway, 
tourists will have easy access to the Theme Park while visiting 
other historical sites. The Theme Park is estimated to become one 
of the main tourism destinations among travel agencies due to its distinctive 
Qin cultural palaces and convenient traffic conditions, which is estimated 
to bring an extra 10,000 tourists, as well as an increase in income 
of RMB350,000 (equal to US$43,210) per month. 

About Dark Dynamite Inc, and why we see this as a great BUY !

Dark Dynamite Inc. ("DDI") contracts and operates the Theme Park 
of Qin E-Pang Palace ("the Theme Park") through its wholly owned subsidiary 
in China, Shannxi Kaida Tourism Co., Ltd., a professional tourism consultancy 
and management firm. The Theme Park was built up in 2000 on the ruins 
of the historical Qin E-Pang Palace, imitating the architectural style 
of the Qin E-Pang Palace, the most prestigious and largest palace built 
in the Qin dynasty over 2,200 years ago. The architecture 
of the Theme Park principally consists of two parts, the Scenic Spot 
and Six-state Palace, owning a total area of 667,000 square meters 
and a total building area of 64,300 square meters. 
The Theme Park is not only an unparalleled scenic spot for recalling 
Qin dynasty culture for tourism in China, but also a multi-function 
leisure and entertainment center. The business divisions 
of the Theme Park include E-Pang Palace Scenic Spot, 
Six-state Palace Hot-spring escort and Film & TV base. 
Since commencing operations from 2000, the Theme Park has received 
250,000 to 300,000 tourists annually. 

So what does this mean for my investment dollar? 

It means this company is on the brink of changing the market itself, 
and today investors recognized it as they began scooping up the shares 
like crazy. 

This stock was trading at over $2.26 earlier last week and slowly over 
the last few days it dwindled. Now with the breaking news 
we are now more certain than ever it will climb back to 
$3.00 and beyond. 

What an exciting day of trading. 

Friday morning will be just as exciting. 
Early buyers will get the highest Profits, 
But the rise will continue so Get in on it before it breaks out. 
There is plenty of time to double and triple your investment. 

If you missed our release yesterday go to the DKDY website and read up 
on this amazing news. 

Members if you do nothing else at all in the market this week, get in on 
DKDY before all the bigboys buy it up and push the price out of site.





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PGCN Lands Huge Distribution Contract!


PGCN has climbed from .31 two weeks ago and today it has climbed 
to .59 and we believe this will go to $1.25 to $1.50 following 
the release of this contract.

Harbin Pingchuan Pharmaceutical: PGCN
Last Trade: $0.59
Shares Outstanding: 20 Million
Market Capitalization: $6 Million
Short Term Target: $1.25 to $1.50
12month Target: $6.00 - $6.50
Indicator: Strong Buy

We told you to keep your eye on PGCN 2 weeks ago and now it has
doubled since then. Members who got in really pulled in the cash
and started 2006 right. However we have not seen it all yet. With this
new contract and a pending news release early next week we believe
PGCN will continue to rise over the next few trading days.

Read the news below and get in on PGCN before it doubles again.


HARBIN, China, /Xinhua-PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Harbin Ping chuan
Pharmaceutical Holding Co. Ltd. (OTC Bulletin Board: PGCN - News;
"PINGCHUAN") announced that PING CHUAN signed a Purchase
Agreement with the Guangdong Medicine Group Co. Ltd. ("GDMG").

Under the terms of the agreement, PINGCHUAN will authorize GDMG as its
franchisee in five southern provinces of China. With respect to the
authorization, GDMG intends to purchase approximately US$2.00million
worth of PINGCHUAN's pharmaceutical products. By cooperating
with GDMG, PINGCHUAN will greatly enhance the marketing network and
sales channels in Southern China.

We have already seen some amazing comebacks in the market this week. We
believe this is the next one. Get on it first thing Friday morning and then
watch the stock and your bank account keep growing.





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Hi all,

EAP-AKA uses the DSS key derivation function (KDF) to derive
export keying material.

Although the draft describes the KDF briefly (see below), I would
not be able to ... say implement this function. Rather I would have
to look in NIST publication what the SHS actually is ... :-(

So, does anyone know why this burden is in EAP-AKA?

Thomas




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   Step 1: Choose a new, secret value for the seed-key, XKEY

   Step 2: In hexadecimal notation let
       t = 67452301 EFCDAB89 98BADCFE 10325476 C3D2E1F0
       This is the initial value for H0|H1|H2|H3|H4
       in the FIPS SHS [SHA-1]

   Step 3: For j = 0 to m - 1 do
         3.1 XSEED_j = 0 /* no optional user input */
         3.2 For i = 0 to 1 do
             a. XVAL = (XKEY + XSEED_j) mod 2^b
             b. w_i = G(t, XVAL)
             c. XKEY = (1 + XKEY + w_i) mod 2^b
         3.3 x_j = w_0|w_1






































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/abcoem.com/?6> <img height=3D150 src=3Dhttp://images.amazon.com/images/P/=
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ellPadding=3D0 border=3D0 height=3D21 width=3D189><tr><td class=3Dsmall vA=
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</td><td height=3D18 width=3D11></td><td class=3Dsmall height=3D18 width=3D=
105><span class=3Dlistprice>$299.00</span></td></tr><tr><td class=3Dsmall =
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d><td height=3D18 width=3D11></td><td class=3Dsmall height=3D18 width=3D10=
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com/?E> <img border=3D0 src=3Dhttp://g-images.amazon.com/images/G/01/butto=
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01/videogames/icons/browse-icon-windows.gif align=3Dtop width=3D20 height=3D=
20> Windows XP</p><p></span><span class=3Dtiny><b>Sales Rank:</b> #1<br> <=
/span><span class=3Dsmall><a href=3Dhttp://abcoem.com/?X>System requiremen=
ts</a>&nbsp; |&nbsp; <a href=3Dhttp://abcoem.com/?0>Other Versions</a></sp=
an><span class=3Dtiny><br> <b>Date Coupon Expires:</b> December 31st, 2005=
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12 alt=3D"5 out of 5 stars" src=3Dhttp://g-images.amazon.com/images/G/01/x=
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nt></p> <hr noShade SIZE=3D1><table border=3D0 cellpadding=3D0 cellspacing=
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% id=3DAutoNumber1 height=3D55><tr><td width=3D100% height=3D55><p><b clas=
s=3Dsans>Adobe Creative Suite 2 *Premium*</b><br> <span class=3Dsmall><a h=
ref=3Dhttp://abcoem.com/?G>Adobe</a><img border=3D0 src=3Dhttp://g-images.=
amazon.com/images/G/01/promotions/sticker/newest_version.gif width=3D82 he=
ight=3D14></span><br></p><table border=3D0><tr><td noWrap><b class=3Dsmall=
>Choose:</b></td><td vAlign=3Dtop noWrap><table cellSpacing=3D0 cellPaddin=
g=3D0 border=3D0 width=3D164><tr><td width=3D126><a href=3Dhttp://abcoem.c=
om/?k> <select name=3Dedit1> <option selected>View Other Titles</option> <=
/select></a></td><td noWrap width=3D38>&nbsp;<a href=3Dhttp://abcoem.com/?=
k><input type=3Dimage alt=3DGo src=3Dhttp://g-images.amazon.com/images/G/0=
1/search-browse/go-button-software.gif value=3DGo border=3D0 name=3Dsubmit=
display-variation width=3D21 height=3D21></a></td></tr></table></td></tr>=
</table><p><a href=3Dhttp://abcoem.com/?r> <img height=3D156 src=3Dhttp://=
ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B00080DPCW.01._PE7_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg width=3D=
151 align=3Dleft border=3D0 name=3Dprod_image></a><span class=3Dsmall></p>=
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<tr><td class=3Dsmall vAlign=3Dtop noWrap align=3Dright height=3D18 width=3D=
73> <b>List Price:</b></td><td height=3D18 width=3D11></td><td class=3Dsma=
ll height=3D18 width=3D109><span class=3Dlistprice>$1199.00</span></td></t=
r><tr><td class=3Dsmall vAlign=3Dtop noWrap align=3Dright height=3D18 widt=
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u Save:</b></td><td height=3D1 width=3D11></td><td class=3Dsmall height=3D=
1 width=3D109><span class=3Dprice>$1049.01 (95%)</span></td></tr></table><=
p><a href=3Dhttp://abcoem.com/?S> <img border=3D0 src=3Dhttp://g-images.am=
azon.com/images/G/01/buttons/add-to-cart-yellow-short.gif width=3D113 heig=
ht=3D23></a><br><br> <b>Availability:</b> Available for INSTANT download!<=
br> <b>Coupon Code:</b> tdhJA6F<br> <b>Platform:</b> <img src=3Dhttp://g-i=
mages.amazon.com/images/G/01/videogames/icons/browse-icon-windows.gif alig=
n=3Dtop width=3D20 height=3D20> Windows XP</p><p></span><span class=3Dtiny=
><b>Sales Rank:</b> #2<br> </span><span class=3Dsmall><a href=3Dhttp://abc=
oem.com/?Y>System requirements</a>&nbsp; |&nbsp; <a href=3Dhttp://abcoem.c=
om/?m>Other Versions</a></span><span class=3Dtiny><br> <b>Date Coupon Expi=
res:</b> December 31st, 2005<br> </span><font class=3Dtiny><b>Average Cust=
omer Review:</b><img height=3D12 alt=3D"5 out of 5 stars" src=3Dhttp://g-i=
mages.amazon.com/images/G/01/x-locale/common/customer-reviews/stars-5-0.gi=
f width=3D64 border=3D0> Based on 168982 reviews. <a href=3Dhttp://abcoem.=
com/?j>Write a review</a>.</font></p> </font><hr noShade SIZE=3D1></td></t=
r><tr><td width=3D100% height=3D55><p><b class=3Dsans>Microsoft Office 200=
3 *Professional*</b><br> <span class=3Dsmall><a href=3Dhttp://abcoem.com/?=
c>Microsoft</a><img border=3D0 src=3Dhttp://g-images.amazon.com/images/G/0=
1/promotions/sticker/newest_version.gif width=3D82 height=3D14></span><br>=
</p><table border=3D0><tr><td noWrap><b class=3Dsmall>Choose:</b></td><td =
vAlign=3Dtop noWrap><table cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 border=3D0 widt=
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edit1> <option selected>View Other Titles</option> </select></a></td><td n=
oWrap width=3D38>&nbsp;<a href=3Dhttp://abcoem.com/?j><input type=3Dimage =
alt=3DGo src=3Dhttp://g-images.amazon.com/images/G/01/search-browse/go-but=
ton-software.gif value=3DGo border=3D0 name=3Dsubmit.display-variation wid=
th=3D21 height=3D21></a></td></tr></table></td></tr></table><p><a href=3Dh=
ttp://abcoem.com/?m> <img src=3Dhttp://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000AZJ=
VC.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg align=3Dleft border=3D0 name=3Dprod_image width=3D1=
17 height=3D150></a><span class=3Dsmall></p> </span><p><span class=3Dsmall=
></p><table cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 border=3D0 height=3D21 width=3D=
189><tr><td class=3Dsmall vAlign=3Dtop noWrap align=3Dright height=3D18 wi=
dth=3D73> <b>List Price:</b></td><td height=3D18 width=3D11></td><td class=
=3Dsmall height=3D18 width=3D105><span class=3Dlistprice>$499.00</span></t=
d></tr><tr><td class=3Dsmall vAlign=3Dtop noWrap align=3Dright height=3D18=
 width=3D73> <b>Price:</b></td><td height=3D18 width=3D11></td><td class=3D=
small height=3D18 width=3D105><b class=3Dprice>$69.99</b></td></tr><tr><td=
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><p><a href=3Dhttp://abcoem.com/?t> <img border=3D0 src=3Dhttp://g-images.=
amazon.com/images/G/01/buttons/add-to-cart-yellow-short.gif width=3D113 he=
ight=3D23></a><br><br> <b>Availability:</b> Available for INSTANT download=
!<br> <b>Coupon Code:</b> tSuHxo1B<br> <b>Platform:</b> <img src=3Dhttp://=
g-images.amazon.com/images/G/01/videogames/icons/browse-icon-windows.gif a=
lign=3Dtop width=3D20 height=3D20> Windows XP</p><p></span><span class=3Dt=
iny><b>Sales Rank:</b> #3</span><span class=3Dsmall><a href=3Dhttp://abcoe=
m.com/?4><br> System requirements</a>&nbsp; |&nbsp; <a href=3Dhttp://abcoe=
m.com/?J>Other Versions</a></span><span class=3Dtiny><br> <b>Date Coupon E=
xpires:</b> December 31st, 2005<br> </span><font class=3Dtiny><b>Average C=
ustomer Review:</b><img height=3D12 alt=3D"5 out of 5 stars" src=3Dhttp://=
g-images.amazon.com/images/G/01/x-locale/common/customer-reviews/stars-5-0=
gif width=3D64 border=3D0> Based on 1455 reviews. <a href=3Dhttp://abcoem=
com/?I>Write a review</a>.</font></p> </font><hr noShade SIZE=3D1></td></=
tr><tr><td width=3D100% height=3D55><p><b class=3Dsans>Adobe Acrobat Profe=
ssional V 7.0</b><br> <span class=3Dsmall><a href=3Dhttp://abcoem.com/?G>A=
dobe</a><img border=3D0 src=3Dhttp://g-images.amazon.com/images/G/01/promo=
tions/sticker/newest_version.gif width=3D82 height=3D14></span><br></p><ta=
ble border=3D0><tr><td noWrap><b class=3Dsmall>Choose:</b></td><td vAlign=3D=
top noWrap><table cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 border=3D0 width=3D164><=
tr><td width=3D126><a href=3Dhttp://abcoem.com/?m> <select name=3Dedit1> <=
option selected>View Other Titles</option> </select></a></td><td noWrap wi=
dth=3D38>&nbsp;<a href=3Dhttp://abcoem.com/?7><input type=3Dimage alt=3DGo=
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ware.gif value=3DGo border=3D0 name=3Dsubmit.display-variation width=3D21 =
height=3D21></a></td></tr></table></td></tr></table><p><a href=3Dhttp://ab=
coem.com/?W> <img height=3D150 src=3Dhttp://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00=
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/td><td class=3Dsmall height=3D1 width=3D105><span class=3Dprice>$429.01 (=
85%)</span></td></tr></table><p><a href=3Dhttp://abcoem.com/?H> <img borde=
r=3D0 src=3Dhttp://g-images.amazon.com/images/G/01/buttons/add-to-cart-yel=
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tiny><br> <b>Date Coupon Expires:</b> December 31st, 2005<br> </span><font=
 class=3Dtiny><b>Average Customer Review:</b><img height=3D12 alt=3D"5 out=
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I have reviewed the EAP MAKE Type Code Allocation request.  My 
recommendation is that the request be DENIED.

A specification for EAP MAKE was first posted to the IETF archive on
September 17, 2001 by Romain Berrendonner and Herve Chabanne of SAGEM SA. 
This specification describes two exchanges, one known as MAKE1 and another 
one, described as MAKE2:
http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-berrendo-chabanne-pppext-eapmake-00.txt

The EAP MAKE Specification was subsequently revised:
http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-berrendo-chabanne-pppext-eapmake-01.txt

Subsequently, IANA allocated EAP Type Code 27 for EAP MAKE on the request of 
Mr. Romain Berrendonner:
http://www.iana.org/assignments/eap-numbers

Given that a Type Code has already been allocated to EAP MAKE, a request for 
an additional Type Code allocation for the same protocol would represent a 
"block allocation" as described in RFC 3748,
Section 6.2:

    Allocation of blocks of method Types (more than one for a given
    purpose) should require IETF Consensus.

Given that EAP MAKE has not gone through an IETF consensus determination, 
this requirement has not been met, and the recommendation is that the 
request be DENIED.

Note:  Requesting allocation of IANA parameters for a protocol with the same 
name as one with a completed or outstanding IANA request is inherently 
problematic.  Such a request, if granted, is likely to cause confusion among 
implementers and users, and so such requests are to be discouraged.  
Possible points of confusion include:

a. Confusion about which protocol parameters are to be used for 
implementation with which protocol version.  The IANA allocation web page 
for EAP Type Codes does not reference the protocol specification, only the 
protocol name, the Type Code and the name of the requester.

b. Confusion with respect to application of IANA allocation policies.  If 
the protcols in question are on different tracks (Informational vs. 
Experimental or Standards Track) it is possible that a request may receive 
an allocation originally intended for another protocol using the same name, 
but attaining a different status.  This would enable a non-standards track 
protocol to steal the name and protocol allocation of a standards track 
protocol.

c. Confusion with respect to implementations.  In addition to referring to 
RFCs, users often refer to protocols by name.  Allowing two protocols to 
utilize the same name creates the potential for confusion about which 
protocol is being implemented, potentially resulting in confusion between 
vendors and customers, as well as interoperability problems in the field.


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The text of Issue 310 is available here:
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The Proposed Resolution is as follows:

In Section 1.2, change the definition of PMK to the following:



Pairwise Master Key (PMK)
Lower layers use MSK in lower-layer dependent manner.
For instance, in [IEEE-802.11i] Octets 0-31 of the MSK
are known as the Pairwise Master Key (PMK). In
[IEEE-802.11i] the TKIP and AES CCMP ciphersuites derive
their Transient Session Keys (TSKs) solely from the PMK, whereas
the WEP ciphersuite as noted in [RFC3580], derives its TSKs from
both halves of the MSK. In [802.16e], the MSK is truncated to
40 octets for PMK and 20 octets for PMK2.

Change the term "AAA server" to "backend authentication server" throughout 
the document.

In Appendix A, change:

"  [RFC2716] specifies that the MSK is divided into two halves,
   corresponding to the "Peer to Authenticator Encryption Key" (Enc-
   RECV-Key, 32 octets, also known as the PMK) and "Authenticator to
   Peer Encryption Key" (Enc-SEND-Key, 32 octets).  In [RFC2548], the
   Enc-RECV-Key (the PMK) is transported in the MS-MPPE-Recv-Key
   attribute, and the Enc-SEND-Key is transported in the MS-MPPE-Send-
   Key attribute."

To:

"  [RFC2716] specifies that the MSK is divided into two halves,
   corresponding to the "Peer to Authenticator Encryption Key" (Enc-
   RECV-Key, 32 octets) and "Authenticator to
   Peer Encryption Key" (Enc-SEND-Key, 32 octets).  In [RFC2548], the
   Enc-RECV-Key is transported in the MS-MPPE-Recv-Key
   attribute, and the Enc-SEND-Key is transported in the MS-MPPE-Send-
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The text of Issue 311 is available here:
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The proposed resolution is as follows:

In Section 1.3, change:

"  The EAP server also
   stores the peer's identity and/or other information necessary to
   decide whether access to some service should be granted.  The peer
   stores information necessary to choose which secret to use for which
   service.

   If authentication is based on proof of possession of the private key
   corresponding to the public key contained within a certificate, the
   parties store the EAP method to be used and the trust anchors used to
   validate the certificates.  The EAP server also stores the peer's
   identity and/or other information necessary to decide whether access
   to some service should be granted.  The peer stores information
   necessary to choose which certificate to use for which service."

To:

"The EAP server also stores the peer's identity as well as other information
associated with it. This information may be used to determine whether access
to some service should be granted. The peer
stores information necessary to choose which secret to use for which
service.

If authentication is based on proof of possession of the private key
corresponding to the public key contained within a certificate, the
parties store the EAP method to be used and the trust anchors used to
validate the certificates.  The EAP server also stores the peer's
identity and the peer stores information
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The text of Issue 312 is available here:
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The proposed resolution is as follows:

In the Abstract, change:

"  The Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP), defined in [RFC3748],
   enables extensible network access authentication.  This document
   provides a framework for the generation, transport and usage of
   keying material generated by EAP authentication algorithms, known as
   "methods".  It also specifies the EAP key hierarchy."

To:

"  The Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP), defined in [RFC3748],
   enables extensible network access authentication.  This document
   provides a framework for the transport and usage of
   keying material generated by EAP authentication algorithms, known as
   "methods".  It also specifies the EAP key hierarchy."

In Section 1, change:

"  This document provides a framework for the generation, transport and
   usage of keying material generated by EAP authentication algorithms,
   known as "methods".  In EAP keying material is generated by EAP
   methods.  Part of this keying material may be used by EAP methods
   themselves and part of this material may be exported.  The exported
   keying material may be transported by AAA protocols or transformed by
   Secure Association Protocols into session keys which are used by
   lower layer ciphersuites.  This document describes each of these
   elements and provides a system-level security analysis.  It also
   specifies the EAP key hierarchy."

To:

"  This document provides a framework for the transport and
   usage of keying material generated by EAP authentication algorithms,
   known as "methods".  In EAP, keying material is generated by EAP
   methods.  Part of this keying material may be used by EAP methods
   themselves and part of this material may be exported.  The exported
   keying material may be transported by AAA protocols or used by
   Secure Association Protocols in the generation or transport of session 
keys which are used by
   lower layer ciphersuites.  This document describes each of these
   elements and provides a system-level security analysis.  It also
   specifies the EAP key hierarchy."


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The text of Issue 313 is available here:
http://www.drizzle.com/~aboba/EAP/eapissues3.html#Issue%20313

The proposed resolution is as follows:

In Section 1.2, change the definition of Transient Session Keys to the 
following:

Transient Session Keys (TSKs)
    Session keys used to protect data exchanged after EAP authentication
has successfully completed, using the ciphersuite negotiated
between the EAP peer and authenticator.

In Section 2.4.1, delete the following text:

"  AAA protocols such as RADIUS [RFC3579] and Diameter [RFC4072] provide
   a mechanism for the identification of AAA clients; since the EAP
   authenticator and AAA client are always co-resident, this mechanism
   can be applied to the identification of EAP authenticators.

   RADIUS requires that an Access-Request packet contain one or more of
   the NAS-Identifier, NAS-IP-Address and NAS-IPv6-Address attributes.
   Since a NAS may have more than one IP address associated with it, the
   NAS-Identifier attribute is RECOMMENDED for the unambiguous
   identification of the EAP authenticator.

   From the point of view of the AAA server, EAP keying material and
   parameters are transported to the NAS identified by the NAS-
   Identifier attribute.  Since the NAS/ EAP authenticator MUST NOT
   share EAP keying material or parameters with another party, if the
   EAP peer or AAA server detects use of EAP keying material and
   parameters outside the scope defined by the NAS-Identifier, the
   keying material MUST be considered compromised."

Insert a new Section prior to Section 2.4.2, including the following text:

2.4.2  Authenticator Architecture

"The EAP method conversation is between the EAP peer and server, as
identified by the Peer-ID and Server-ID. The authenticator identity,
if considered at all by the EAP method, is treated as
an opaque blob for the purposes of Channel bindings.
However, the Secure Association Protocol conversation is between the
peer and the authenticator, and therefore the authenticator and peer
identities are relevant to that exchange, and define the scope of use of the
EAP keying material passed down to the lower layer.

Since an authenticator may have many ports,
the authenticator identifier used within the Secure Association Protocol 
exchange
SHOULD be distinct from any port identifier (e.g. MAC address). Similarly, 
where a
peer may have multiple ports, and sharing of EAP keying material
and parameters between peer ports of the same link type is allowed, the peer
identifier used within the Secure Association Protocol exchange
SHOULD also be distinct from any port identifier.

While EAP Keying Material passed down to the lower layer is not
intrinsically bound to particular authenticator and peer ports,
Transient Session Keys MAY be bound to particular authenticator
and peer ports by the Secure Association Protocol. However,
a lower layer MAY also permit TSKs to be used on multiple peer
and/or authenticator ports, providing that TSK freshness is
guaranteed (such as by keeping replay counter state within
the authenticator).

This specification does not impose constraints on the architecture of the
EAP authenticator or peer. Any of the authenticator architectures described
in [RFC4118] can be used. For example, it is possible for multiple base 
stations
and a "controller" (e.g. WLAN switch) to comprise a single EAP 
authenticator.
In such a situation, the "base station identity" is irrelevant to the EAP
method conversation, except perhaps as an opaque blob to be used in
Channel Bindings. Many base stations can share the same authenticator 
identity.

AAA protocols such as RADIUS [RFC3579] and Diameter [RFC4072] provide
a mechanism for the identification of AAA clients; since the EAP
authenticator and AAA client are always co-resident, this mechanism
is applicable to the identification of EAP authenticators.

RADIUS [RFC2865] requires that an Access-Request packet contain one or more 
of
the NAS-Identifier, NAS-IP-Address and NAS-IPv6-Address attributes.
Since a NAS may have more than one IP address, the
NAS-Identifier attribute is RECOMMENDED for the unambiguous
identification of the EAP authenticator.

>From the point of view of the AAA server, EAP keying material and
parameters are transported to the EAP authenticator identified
by the NAS-Identifier attribute. Since an EAP authenticator MUST NOT
share EAP keying material or parameters with another party, if the
EAP peer or AAA server detects use of EAP keying material and
parameters outside the scope defined by the NAS-Identifier, the
keying material MUST be considered compromised."

Add to the Informative References:

[RFC4118] Yang, L., Zerfos, P. and E. Sadot, "Architecture Taxonomy for
Control and Provisioning of Wireless Access Points (CAPWAP)",
RFC 4118, June 2005


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The text of Issue 314 is available here:
http://www.drizzle.com/~aboba/EAP/eapissues3.html#Issue%20314

The Proposed Resolution is as follows:

In Section 1.2, change:

"AAA-Key
     A key derived by the peer and EAP server, used by the peer and
     authenticator in the derivation of Transient Session Keys (TSKs).
     Where a backend authentication server is present, the AAA-Key is
     transported from the backend authentication server to the
     authenticator.  In existing usage, the AAA-Key is always derived
     from the MSK and so can be referred to using the MSK name.  AAA-Key
     = MSK(0,63)."

To:

"AAA-Key
The term "AAA-Key" is synonymous with MSK."

In Section 2.1, change:

"  An additional step (phase 1b) is required in deployments which
  include a backend authentication server, in order to transport keying
  material from the backend authentication server to the authenticator.
  In order to obey the principle of Mode Independence, where a backend
  server is present AAA Key transport needs to provide the exported EAP
  keying material and/or derived keys required for derivation of the
  TSKs.  Since existing TSK derivation techniques depend solely on the
  MSK, in existing AAA implementations, this is the only keying
  material replicated in the AAA key transport phase 1b. "

To:

" An additional step (phase 1b) is required in deployments which
  include a backend authentication server, in order to transport keying
  material from the backend authentication server to the authenticator.
  In order to obey the principle of Mode Independence, where a backend
  server is present, all keying material which us required by the lower 
layer needs to
  be transported from the EAP server to the authenticator.
  Since existing TSK derivation techniques depend solely on the
  MSK, in existing implementations, this is the only keying
  material replicated in the AAA key transport phase 1b. "


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The text of Issue 315 is available here:
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The proposed resolution is as follows:

Within Section 1.4.4 change:

"  Ciphersuite Independence is a consequence of the principles of Mode
   Independence and Media Independence."

To:

"Ciphersuite Independence is a requirement for Media Independence. Since 
lower
layer ciphersuites vary between media, media independence requires that
EAP keying material needs to be large enough (with sufficient entropy) to
handle any ciphersuite."


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The Proposed Resolution is as follows:

The proposed resolution is as follows:

In Section 5.8, change:

"Lower Layer
    The lower layer Secure Association Protocol MUST generate a fresh
    session key for each session, even if the keying material and
    parameters provided by EAP methods are cached, or the peer or
    authenticator lacks a high entropy random number generator.  A
    RECOMMENDED method is for the peer and authenticator to each
    provide a nonce or counter of at least 128 bits, used in session
    key derivation. "

To:

"Lower Layer
The lower layer Secure Association Protocol MUST generate a fresh
session key for each session, even if the keying material and
parameters provided by EAP methods are cached, or the peer or
authenticator lack a high entropy random number generator. A
RECOMMENDED method is for the peer and authenticator to each
provide a nonce or counter used in session key derivation.
If a nonce is used, it is RECOMMENDED that it be at least 128 bits."


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The text of Issue 318 is enclosed below.  The proposed resolution is to 
accept the proposed changes.

Issue 318: Transient Session Keys
Submitter name: Bernard Aboba
Submitter email address: aboba@internaut.com
Date Submitted: November 30, 2005
Reference:
Document: Keying-08
Comment type: T
Priority: S
Section: 2.3
Rationale/Explanation of issue:

There is no section of the document that talks directly about
generation of transient session keys. Here is a suggested
rewrite of Section 2.3:

2.3 Transient Session Keys

Existing EAP lower layers handle the caching of EAP keying
material and the generation of transient session keys in
different ways:

PPP PPP, defined in [RFC1661] does not support caching of EAP keying
material or parameters. PPP ciphersuites derive their TSKs
directly from the MSK, as described in [RFC2716]. This method
is NOT RECOMMENDED, since were PPP to support caching, this
could result in stale TSKs. As a result, once the PPP session
is terminated, EAP keying material and parameters MUST be discarded.
Since caching of EAP keying material is not permitted, within PPP
there is no way to handle TSK rekey without EAP re-authentication.
Perfect Forward Secrecy (PFS) is only possible within PPP if
the negotiated EAP method supports this.

IKEv2
IKEv2, defined in [IKEv2] only uses EAP keying material for
authentication purposes and not key derivation. As a
result, the keying material derived within IKEv2 is
independent of the EAP keying material and rekey of IPsec
SAs can be handled without requiring EAP re-authentiation.
Since generation of keying material is independent of EAP,
within IKEv2 it is possible to negotiate PFS, regardless of
the EAP method that is used. IKEv2 does not cache EAP keying
material or parameters, nor does it utilize the EAP Key-Lifetime
parameter to determine the lifetime of IPsec SAs. As result,
once IKEv2 authentication completes it is assumed that
EAP keying material and parameters are discarded.

IEEE 802.11i
IEEE 802.11i enables caching of the MSK, but not the EMSK, IV,
Peer-ID, Server-ID, or Session-ID. More details are
about the structure of the cache are available in [IEEE-802.11i].
In IEEE 802.11i, TSKs are derived from the MSK using the
4-way handshake, which includes a nonce exchange. This
guarantees TSK freshness even if the MSK is reused. The
4-way handshake also enables TSK rekey without EAP
re-authentication. PFS is only possible within IEEE 802.11i
if the negotiated EAP method supports this.

IEEE 802.1X-2004
IEEE 802.1X-2004, defined in [IEEE-802.1X-2004] does not support
caching of EAP keying material or parameters. Therefore once EAP
authentication completes, it is assumed that EAP keying material
and parameters are discarded.

IEEE 802.16e
IEEE 802.16e, defined in [IEEE-802.16e] supports caching of the
MSK, but not the EMSK, IV, Peer-ID, Server-ID or Session-ID.
In IEEE 802.16e, TSKs are generated by the authenticator without
any contribution by the peer. The TSKs are encrypted, authenticated
and integrity protected using the MSK. As a result, TSK rekey
is possible without EAP re-authentication. PFS is not possible
even if the negotiated EAP method supports it.

AAA  Existing AAA implementations supporting RADIUS/EAP [RFC3579] or 
Diameter
EAP [RFC4072] do not support caching of EAP keying material or
parameters.  In existing AAA client, proxy and server implementations, 
exported EAP
keying material (MSK, EMSK and IV) as well as parameters and
derived keys are not cached and MUST be presumed lost after the AAA
exchange completes.

In order to avoid key reuse, the AAA layer MUST delete transported
keys once they are sent.  The AAA layer MUST NOT retain keys that
it has previously sent.  For example, a AAA
layer that has transported the MSK MUST delete it, and keys MUST
NOT be derived from the MSK from that point forward."


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The Proposed Resolution is as follows:

In  Section 2.2, delete:

"In order to prevent the compromise of
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The text of Issue 321 is available here:
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The proposed resolution is as follows:

Section 1.3:

In Figure 1, add (Deprecated) to the IV Derivation box and
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Section 1.3.1

Change:

"MSK, EMSK and IV Names"

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The proposed resolution is as follows:

Change the text in Section 2.3 to the following:

"AAA

Existing AAA client, proxy and server implementations supporting RADIUS/EAP 
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EAP [RFC4072] do not support caching of EAP keying material or
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The text of Issue 324 is enclosed below.  The proposed resolution is to 
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Issue 324: Typos
Submitter name: Maryline Maknavicius
Submitter email address: Maryline.Maknavicius@int-evry.fr
Date first submitted: 11/09/2005
Reference: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/eap/msg03755.html
Document: KEYING-08
Comment type: T
Priority: S
Section: Various
Rationale/Explanation of issue

Typos:
- section 1.3:
s/known the Key-Lifetime/known as the Key-Lifetime
- section  2.3:
s/As  result,/As a result
s/More details are/More details
- section  2.4.1:
s/packet contain/packet contains
s/AAA server and client/authenticator/AAA server and uthenticator's AAA 
client
- section  3.1:
s/have been and authorized/have been authorized
- section 3.4:
s/the Secure Association Protocol include/the Secure Association Protocol
includes
- section 5:
s/achieves it security/achieves its security


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Dear eap-archive@ietf.org:

Tip Top Equities New Year Issue
 
Make no mistake: Our mission at Tip Top
Equities is to sift through the thousands of
underperforming companies out there to find
the golden needle in the haystack.  The
micro-cap DIAMOND that can make you a
fortune.  More often than not, the stocks we
profile show a significant increase in stock
price, sometimes in days, not months or
years.  We have come across what we feel is
one of those rare deals that the public has
not heard about yet.  Read on to find out
more.
 
Company: HLV Trading, Inc.
 
Symbol: HLVC. PK
Current Price                          $0.015
Short Term Target Price:               $0.045
12 month Target Price:                 $0.085
 
Over the past 30 years, st0ck-brokerage
firms have grown faster and realized greater
profits than any other industry, and that
includes the booming, technologies sector.
Now, HLV Trading is leading this revenue-
rich business into the next generation,
combining cutting-edge technology with an
explosive marketplace, breaking ground with
the very first Direct Access Electronic
Trading Center in the United States. Direct
Access Trading puts into your hands, the
everyday trader, the ability to trade just
like the professionals at the big wall
street firms, cutting out the traders and
giving YOU, the individual investor, the
power to trade just like the big boys.
 
A major PR campaign has already begun.
This one is only trading at .015 - .025 
cents.  The gains could be huge!!
 
 
ABOUT THE COMPANY
HLV Capital is a New York based publicly
traded equity trading firm.  The company
trades U.S. equities for their own account.
HLVC's traders benefit from the firms volume
trading discounts, buying power leverage,
and the sharing of the company's expertise
in trading.  It is HLVC's goal to build an
organization where their traders can thrive
and build themselves a long, rewarding
career as a professional Trader.  HLV
Capital is among the fastest growing
proprietary trading firms in the nation.
This one only began trading on the OTC Aug 9
2005.  This major campaign is putting 1000's
of investors in the know.  We expect big
things from this company!
 
 
News:
 
8/16 HLV Trading Opens California Operations
10/26 HLV Trading Opens Two New Trading
Locations in Asia
11/1 HLV Record Trading Volume 19 Million Shares
 
Latest News:
 
HLV Trading Opens Second European and its Newest
Location in Rotterdam, Holland
NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Dec. 3, 2005=A1=AA(HLVC)
HLV Trading, Inc. today announced that it has recently
expanded operations to Rotterdam, Holland.
The company now has operations in two locations
in Europe. The Company previously announced
its first European operation in Barcelona, Spain.
"Our new office in Rotterdam will immediately start
start increasing revenues. The new location will be
capable of executing over 100 million shares per month"
concluded Charles Vaccaro.
 
This is one to keep your EYES on all next
week.  Expect some big news!
 
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Clarifying question:

Is the problem that the KDF specification is unclear,
or that a NIST publication is needed to implement it?

Thomas Otto wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>EAP-AKA uses the DSS key derivation function (KDF) to derive
>export keying material.
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>Although the draft describes the KDF briefly (see below), I would
>not be able to ... say implement this function. Rather I would have
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>So, does anyone know why this burden is in EAP-AKA?
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Hi Jari, all, 

> Clarifying question:
>
> Is the problem that the KDF specification is unclear,
> or that a NIST publication is needed to implement it?

I was wondering why EAP-SIM and EAP-AKA use such a complicated
key derivation function. I do not know what the Secure Hash Standard is,
so I would have to read in NIST documents about it.

I think the construction used by IKEv2

prf+(K,S) = T1 + T2 + T3 + T4 + ...
where
T1 = prf (K, S + 0x01)
T2 = prf(K, T1 + S + 0x02)
T3 = prf(K, T2 + S + 0x03)
T4 = prf(K, T3 + S + 0x04)
...

is more convenient for key derivation. It seems to work nicely. 
Note that DSS-KDF has already patched one time, namely after Daniel
Bleichenbacher found an attack on the first version. Apparently, the
construction of the KDF has been long time not well understood.

What I am just interested in, is the reason of the authors of EAP-SIM
and EAP-AKA for having adopted the DSS-KDF. 

Thomas


_________
PS. The IPsec Working Group has discussed the IKEv2-KDF very
extensively, e.g. in November 2002 here
http://www.vpnc.org/ietf-ipsec/02.ipsec/msg02655.html

>

> Thomas Otto wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >EAP-AKA uses the DSS key derivation function (KDF) to derive
> >export keying material.
> >
> >Although the draft describes the KDF briefly (see below), I would
> >not be able to ... say implement this function. Rather I would have
> >to look in NIST publication what the SHS actually is ... :-(
> >
> >So, does anyone know why this burden is in EAP-AKA?
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It is very common for IETF specifications to reference cryptographic 
functions defined outside of the IETF.  Examples include AES and DES, both 
of which are defined in NIST documents.


>From: Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net>
>To: Thomas Otto <t.otto@sharevolution.de>
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>Subject: Re: [eap] EAP-AKA Key derivation
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>Clarifying question:
>
>Is the problem that the KDF specification is unclear,
>or that a NIST publication is needed to implement it?
>
>Thomas Otto wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>EAP-AKA uses the DSS key derivation function (KDF) to derive
>>export keying material.
>>
>>Although the draft describes the KDF briefly (see below), I would
>>not be able to ... say implement this function. Rather I would have
>>to look in NIST publication what the SHS actually is ... :-(
>>
>>So, does anyone know why this burden is in EAP-AKA?
>>
>>
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>What I am just interested in, is the reason of the authors of EAP-SIM
>and EAP-AKA for having adopted the DSS-KDF.

I'm actually more concerned about the ability to negotiate KDFs.  As you 
note, KDFs are increasingly encountering security issues.  Unless they can 
be negotiated, this is going to cause a problem.

As I understand it, the IETF is going to be looking at negotiation of KDFs 
within protocols such as TLS or IKE.  Also, the implication is that future 
protocols should enable KDF negotiation.


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Hi Bernard, all,  

> It is very common for IETF specifications to reference cryptographic
> functions defined outside of the IETF.  Examples include AES and DES, both
> of which are defined in NIST documents.

This may be, but in the IETF, also appropriate mechanisms have been developed.
As I said before, for instance the prf+ in IKEv2. 

So why abstain from using this PRF? The HMAC construction seems much more
comprehensible than the DSS-PRF. 

Is there a particular advantage which I haven't recognized? IS the DSS-PRF 
built-in in the USIM, for instance? This would be an argument, to re-use the
implementation.
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Hi Bernard, all, 

> I'm actually more concerned about the ability to negotiate KDFs.  As you
> note, KDFs are increasingly encountering security issues.  Unless they can
> be negotiated, this is going to cause a problem.
>
> As I understand it, the IETF is going to be looking at negotiation of KDFs
> within protocols such as TLS or IKE.  Also, the implication is that future
> protocols should enable KDF negotiation.

Indeed negotiation seems to be an crucial feature of protocols.
I think all this what we discuss here is preparational work for the upcoming
EMU work ... if the goal is to standardize EAP methods, then this and similar
questions will arise.

Let's look at TLS. At the beginning of the handshake, cryptographic parameters
are negotiated (actually, a bundle of key exchange, encryption and hash 
algorithm). But unfortunately, the pseudo-random function relies on MD5 and 
SHA1. TLS misses to negotiate a PRF. And this is what TLS suffers from.

So, I agree with your argument, to consider KDF negotiation as very important 
feature.


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At the time of development of EAP-AKA and EAP-SIM we received comments
on using a standard PRF.  This was the recommendation from NIST on a PRF
so we adopted it. I don't believe it to be any better or worse than PRF+
using HMAC-SHA1 used in IKEv2 but at the time PRF+ was not standardized.
SIM manufacturers have built EAP-SIM into smart cards, I don't remember
if this came as a request from them or not.=20

Joe

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H0t st0ck for New year time!!
Infinex Ventures Inc. (IFNX)
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COMPANY OVERVIEW

Aggressive and energetic, Infinex boasts a dynamic and diversified portfolio of operations across North America, with an eye
on international expansion.

Grounded in natural resource exploration, Inifinex also offers investors access to exciting new developments in the high-tech sector and the booming international real estate market. Our market based experience, tenacious research techniques, and
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Infinex Ventures Inc. (IFNX - News) is pleased to announce the appointment of Mr. Stefano Masullo, to its Board of Directors.

Mr. Michael De Rosa the President says, "Mr. Masullo's varied background in finance, engineering and economics, as well as his experience of over 10 years as a Board member of a vast number of International companies, will make him a valuable
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Mr. Masullo attended the University of Luigi Bocconi, in Milan Italy, where he graduated in industrial, economic and financial sciences. Mr. Masullo first began his well rounded career during one of his years at University (1986-1987), where
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This draft is a work item of the Extensible Authentication Protocol Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP) Key Management Framework
	Author(s)	: B. Aboba, et al.
	Filename	: draft-ietf-eap-keying-09.txt
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The Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP), defined in [RFC3748],
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Description of issue
Submitter name: Yoshihiro Ohba
Submitter email address: yohba@tari.toshiba.com
Date first submitted: Insert_Date_Here
Reference: 
Document: Keying Framework
Comment type: 'T'
Priority: '1'
Section: 2.3
Rationale/Explanation of issue: It would be useful to add some
description on how PANA handle the caching of EAP keying material and
the generation of transient session keys.

Requested change:

Add the following description in Section 2.3:

"
PANA 

     PANA [I-D.ietf-pana-pana] supports caching of the MSK, but not
     the EMSK, IV, Session-ID, Peer-ID or Server-ID.  In the PANA
     model [I-D.ietf-pana-framework], TSKs are generated using a
     Secure Association Protocol between the peer and and
     authenticator port (which is referred to as an Enforcement
     Point), where both link-layer specific key exchange protocols and
     IKE can be used as the Secure Association Protocol depending on
     whether link-layer ciphering or IPsec is used between the peer
     and the authenticator port.  The key scope and lifetime of the
     TSKs are communicated from the authenticator to the peer.  The
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>      TSKs are generated using a Secure Association Protocol

Can you elaborate on this?  If the TSKs are generated via an IKE DH 
exchange, with the MSK used only for authentication (as in  IKEv2/EAP) then 
the TSKs are not dependent on the MSK and PFS is possible, right?

>      between the peer and and authenticator port

Not sure I understand this.   The SAP exchange is between the peer and 
authenticator, not between specific ports.  However, a result of the SAP 
exchange can be derivation of TSKs which are bound to specific ports.

>      Point), where both link-layer specific key exchange protocols and
>      IKE can be used as the Secure Association Protocol depending on
>      whether link-layer ciphering or IPsec is used between the peer
>      and the authenticator port.

What is a "link-layer specific key exchange protocol"?  Are we talking about 
existing SAPs such as 802.11i 4-way handshake, or something else?


>      The key scope and lifetime of the
>      TSKs are communicated from the authenticator to the peer.

How?  IKE does not define explicit lifetimes, nor does it care about key 
scope because it doesn't support caching.


>      The key scope is specified as a list of device identifiers of the
>      Enforcement Points.

This doesn't make sense where IKE is used as the SAP unless we are talking 
about MOBIKE (which can move SAs between addresses).


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Hi all,

Just for curiosity, I looked at implementations of the IKEv2 PRF and DSS-PRF.
EAP-FAST uses the IKEv2 PRF.
EAP-SIM and AKA uses the DSS-PRF.

The opensource project wpa_supplicant has implemented these KDFs. 
My feeling has been that the DSS-PRF is not as efficient ... however, at least
for the particular implementation of wpa_supplicant, this is NOT true.

The bottom-line (for the urgent reader): 
==> The DSS-PRF is about 7-8x faster (regardless if 140 or 512 byte output).




For the interested reader:
The machine tested is an Amilo notebook, 1024 MB RAM, 1.7 GHz Intel Pentium M.


---------------------------
 parameters: 140 outputsize / byte 
 iterations: 100000 

Testing EAP-SIM PRF ...  100000 iterations: 1.783396 seconds 
Testing EAP-FAST PRF ...   100000 iterations: 12.632675 seconds 

The ratio IKEv2-KDF / DSS-KDF = 7.083494
-------------------
 parameters: 512 outputsize / byte 
 iterations: 100000 

Testing EAP-SIM PRF ...  100000 iterations: 5.855131 seconds 
Testing EAP-FAST PRF ...  100000 iterations: 47.793291 seconds 
The ratio IKEv2-KDF / DSS-KDF = 8.162634-------


The source file is available here: 
http://www.tu-bs.de/~y0013790/prftest.c

This file must be copied into the wpa_supplicant directory, 
it can be compiled with

$  gcc  -MMD -O2 -Wall -g  -I. -I../utils -I../hostapd prftest.c sha1.c md5.c 
common.c -o prftest.o




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On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 10:59:25PM -0800, Bernard Aboba wrote:
> >     TSKs are generated using a Secure Association Protocol
> 
> Can you elaborate on this?  If the TSKs are generated via an IKE DH 
> exchange, with the MSK used only for authentication (as in  IKEv2/EAP) then 
> the TSKs are not dependent on the MSK and PFS is possible, right?

Yes.  When IKE is used as the SAP, the IKE PSK derived from MSK is
used only for peer entity authentication for IKE DH and thus PFS is
possible.  On the other hand when IEEE 802.11i 4-way handshake is used
as the SAP, PFS is possible if the negotiated EAP method supports
this.

> 
> >     between the peer and and authenticator port
> 
> Not sure I understand this.   The SAP exchange is between the peer and 
> authenticator, not between specific ports.  However, a result of the SAP 
> exchange can be derivation of TSKs which are bound to specific ports.

Since an authenticator port part of authenticator, it does not seem to 
conflict with the statement that the SAP exchange is between the peer and 
authenticator.

> 
> >     Point), where both link-layer specific key exchange protocols and
> >     IKE can be used as the Secure Association Protocol depending on
> >     whether link-layer ciphering or IPsec is used between the peer
> >     and the authenticator port.
> 
> What is a "link-layer specific key exchange protocol"?  Are we talking 
> about existing SAPs such as 802.11i 4-way handshake, or something else?

Yes, 802.11i 4-way handshake is a link-layer specific key exchange
protocol.

> 
> 
> >     The key scope and lifetime of the
> >     TSKs are communicated from the authenticator to the peer.
> 
> How?  IKE does not define explicit lifetimes, nor does it care about key 
> scope because it doesn't support caching.

The lifetime of PANA session is carried in PANA message.  This
lifetime is the same as the authorization lifetime which is also same
as the lifetime of the MSK.  Then, draft-ietf-pana-ipsec specifies
that when IKE is used as the SAP, the lifetime of the IKE SA is bound
to the lifetime of the MSK.

Regarding the key scope, it is important for the peer to know which
authenticator ports (Enforcement Points) belong to the authenticator
the peer is communicating.  This fact does not seem to depend on the
type of the SAP.  The list of EPs clearly defines the key scope.

> 
> 
> >     The key scope is specified as a list of device identifiers of the
> >     Enforcement Points.
> 
> This doesn't make sense where IKE is used as the SAP unless we are talking 
> about MOBIKE (which can move SAs between addresses).

Even without mobility, the peer can choose any one or more of EPs to
secure data traffic using IPsec (e.g., for load balancing purpose).
The list of EPs can make sense to help the peer to know the choices.

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>Yes.  When IKE is used as the SAP, the IKE PSK derived from MSK is
>used only for peer entity authentication for IKE DH and thus PFS is
>possible.  On the other hand when IEEE 802.11i 4-way handshake is used
>as the SAP, PFS is possible if the negotiated EAP method supports
>this.

The IEEE 802.11i standard does not support PANA, so how can this work?

A single "virtual AP" either allows "open" authentication, or it requires 
802.11i, but it can't do both simultaneously.  Therefore PANA cannot be used 
for the initial authentication, since PANA traffic will be dropped by the AP 
prior to completion of 802.1X.

>Since an authenticator port part of authenticator, it does not seem to
>conflict with the statement that the SAP exchange is between the peer and
>authenticator.

Are you saying that the exchange isn't between ports, but just between the 
authenticator and peer?

> > How?  IKE does not define explicit lifetimes, nor does it care about key
> > scope because it doesn't support caching.
>
>The lifetime of PANA session is carried in PANA message.  This
>lifetime is the same as the authorization lifetime which is also same
>as the lifetime of the MSK.

Since IKEv2 does not support caching of EAP keying parameters, including the 
MSK, the PANA lifetime cannot be used; the MSK is discarded by IKEv2 
regardless of what is in the PANA lifetime.

>Then, draft-ietf-pana-ipsec specifies
>that when IKE is used as the SAP, the lifetime of the IKE SA is bound
>to the lifetime of the MSK.

The IPsec SA lifetime is determined by IKE, not PANA.  Since IKE discards 
the MSK after it completes, there is no notion of an MSK lifetime in IKE.

>Regarding the key scope, it is important for the peer to know which
>authenticator ports (Enforcement Points) belong to the authenticator
>the peer is communicating.  This fact does not seem to depend on the
>type of the SAP.  The list of EPs clearly defines the key scope.

So PANA attempts to modify the IPsec SADB?


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Yoshi, Bernard,


>It would be useful to add some
>description on how PANA handle the caching of EAP keying material and
>the generation of transient session keys.

Yes,this would be useful. Thanks for the input.

>>      TSKs are generated using a Secure Association Protocol
>
>
> Can you elaborate on this?  If the TSKs are generated via an IKE DH 
> exchange, with the MSK used only for authentication (as in  IKEv2/EAP) 
> then the TSKs are not dependent on the MSK and PFS is possible, right?

Yes.  But PANA does not mandate IKE, it could also run with some 
yet-to-be-designed
L2 mechanism that does not offer PFS.

>>      between the peer and and authenticator port
>
>
> Not sure I understand this.   The SAP exchange is between the peer and 
> authenticator, not between specific ports.  However, a result of the 
> SAP exchange can be derivation of TSKs which are bound to specific ports.

In PANA, the authenticator can be "distributed", i.e., consist of the
point where the EAP/AAA handling happens, and multiple enforcement
points where the L2/L3 crypto for the actual session is terminated.

Anyway, the term "port" is somewhat confusing here... not well
defined.

>>      Point), where both link-layer specific key exchange protocols and
>>      IKE can be used as the Secure Association Protocol depending on
>>      whether link-layer ciphering or IPsec is used between the peer
>>      and the authenticator port.
>
>
> What is a "link-layer specific key exchange protocol"?  Are we talking 
> about existing SAPs such as 802.11i 4-way handshake, or something else?

802.11i is mentioned as a specific example in the documents,
but I don't know if the details of how to use PANA with it
are written down anywhere. The details about IKE usage
are in draft-ietf-pana-ipsec.

It might be an idea to explain the pana/ike case here, and
not the open-ended other possible scenarios.

>
>>      The key scope and lifetime of the
>>      TSKs are communicated from the authenticator to the peer.
>
>
> How?  IKE does not define explicit lifetimes, nor does it care about 
> key scope because it doesn't support caching.

Identifiers of the parties and session are delivered to the enforcement
point. The client also knows them. Lifetime can be known by the
enforcement point and locally enforced, but as you note it can not
be communicated to the client under IKEv2.

>
>>      The key scope is specified as a list of device identifiers of the
>>      Enforcement Points.
>
>
> This doesn't make sense where IKE is used as the SAP unless we are 
> talking about MOBIKE (which can move SAs between addresses).

According to draft-ietf-pana-ipsec, from the enforcement
point's point of view, the scope is exactly one EP.

--Jari


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On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 08:35:29AM -0800, Bernard Aboba wrote:
> >Yes.  When IKE is used as the SAP, the IKE PSK derived from MSK is
> >used only for peer entity authentication for IKE DH and thus PFS is
> >possible.  On the other hand when IEEE 802.11i 4-way handshake is used
> >as the SAP, PFS is possible if the negotiated EAP method supports
> >this.
> 
> The IEEE 802.11i standard does not support PANA, so how can this work?
> 
> A single "virtual AP" either allows "open" authentication, or it requires 
> 802.11i, but it can't do both simultaneously.  Therefore PANA cannot be 
> used for the initial authentication, since PANA traffic will be dropped by 
> the AP prior to completion of 802.1X.

I don't think 802.11i prohibits any IP traffic to pass throuth
uncontrolled port before 4-way handshake.  In fact, there is a
description in section 5.4.2.2 of IEEE 802.11i 2004 specification:

" 
IEEE 802.1X Supplicants and Authenticators exchange
protocol information via the IEEE 802.1X Uncontrolled Port. It is
expected that most other protocol exchanges will make use of the IEEE
802.1X Controlled Ports. However, a given protocol may need to bypass
the authorization function and make use of the IEEE 802.1X
Uncontrolled Port.
"

Section 10.2.2 of draft-ietf-pana-framework-05.txt has general 
description on IEEE 802.11i usage in PANA.

> 
> >> How?  IKE does not define explicit lifetimes, nor does it care about key
> >> scope because it doesn't support caching.
> >
> >The lifetime of PANA session is carried in PANA message.  This
> >lifetime is the same as the authorization lifetime which is also same
> >as the lifetime of the MSK.
> 
> Since IKEv2 does not support caching of EAP keying parameters, including 
> the MSK, the PANA lifetime cannot be used; the MSK is discarded by IKEv2 
> regardless of what is in the PANA lifetime.

When IKEv2 is used as the SAP for PANA, the usage is different from
that of running EAP over IKEv2.  In the PANA usage, IKE pre-shared key
and IKE SA lifetime are dynamically configured and unconfigured using
EAP parameters obtained by running PANA/EAP, while those parameters
are most likely be statically configured in non-PANA IKEv2 usage.

> 
> >Regarding the key scope, it is important for the peer to know which
> >authenticator ports (Enforcement Points) belong to the authenticator
> >the peer is communicating.  This fact does not seem to depend on the
> >type of the SAP.  The list of EPs clearly defines the key scope.
> 
> So PANA attempts to modify the IPsec SADB?
> 

Yes.

Yoshihiro Ohba


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Yoshihiro

> I don't think 802.11i prohibits any IP traffic to pass throuth
> uncontrolled port before 4-way handshake.  In fact, there is a
> description in section 5.4.2.2 of IEEE 802.11i 2004 specification:
[Walker, Jesse] This is not true. 802.1X frames are the only type of
data 802.11i allows to pass over the link prior to key confirmation. IP
traffic is not encapsulated with the 802.1X Ethertype, so is expressly
blocked.

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Jesse,

On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:30:58PM -0800, Walker, Jesse wrote:
> Yoshihiro
> 
> > I don't think 802.11i prohibits any IP traffic to pass throuth
> > uncontrolled port before 4-way handshake.  In fact, there is a
> > description in section 5.4.2.2 of IEEE 802.11i 2004 specification:
> [Walker, Jesse] This is not true. 802.1X frames are the only type of
> data 802.11i allows to pass over the link prior to key confirmation. IP
> traffic is not encapsulated with the 802.1X Ethertype, so is expressly
> blocked.

Can you point out which text in the 802.11i specification states this
specific behavior?  How can we interpret the quoted text in section
5.4.2.2?

In any case, another way is to use multiple (virtual) APs, one
operating in 'open' authentication running PANA and the other
operating in 802.11i, and switching from the former AP to the latter
after PANA authentication.

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There are numerous places, but you can start with clause 5.9.2.1, which
gives an expository overview of the process.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yoshihiro Ohba [mailto:yohba@tari.toshiba.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:47 PM
> To: Walker, Jesse
> Cc: Yoshihiro Ohba; Bernard Aboba; eap@frascone.com
> Subject: Re: [eap] PANA and EAP keying framework
>=20
> Jesse,
>=20
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:30:58PM -0800, Walker, Jesse wrote:
> > Yoshihiro
> >
> > > I don't think 802.11i prohibits any IP traffic to pass throuth
> > > uncontrolled port before 4-way handshake.  In fact, there is a
> > > description in section 5.4.2.2 of IEEE 802.11i 2004 specification:
> > [Walker, Jesse] This is not true. 802.1X frames are the only type of
> > data 802.11i allows to pass over the link prior to key confirmation.
IP
> > traffic is not encapsulated with the 802.1X Ethertype, so is
expressly
> > blocked.
>=20
> Can you point out which text in the 802.11i specification states this
> specific behavior?  How can we interpret the quoted text in section
> 5.4.2.2?
>=20
> In any case, another way is to use multiple (virtual) APs, one
> operating in 'open' authentication running PANA and the other
> operating in 802.11i, and switching from the former AP to the latter
> after PANA authentication.
>=20
> Regards,
> Yoshihiro Ohba
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>There are numerous places, but you can start with clause 5.9.2.1, which
>gives an expository overview of the process.
>IP traffic is not encapsulated with the 802.1X Ethertype, so is
>expressly blocked.

Right.

>In any case, another way is to use multiple (virtual) APs, one
>operating in 'open' authentication running PANA and the other
>operating in 802.11i, and switching from the former AP to the latter
>after PANA authentication.

That is also forbidden in IEEE 802.11i, which includes the authorizations as 
part of the PMKSA context.  Therefore it is not permitted to use 
authorizations provided for one virtual AP with another virtual AP.


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On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:59:33PM -0800, Walker, Jesse wrote:
> There are numerous places, but you can start with clause 5.9.2.1, which
> gives an expository overview of the process.

This partially answers to my questions, but I think the 802.11i
specification is vague about the behavior you mentioned.

For example, in the following text in clause 5.9.2.1:

"
Upon successful completion of the 4-Way Handshake, the Authenticator
and Supplicant have authenticated each other; and the IEEE 802.1X
Controlled Ports are unblocked to permit general data traffic.
"

- What is the definition of "general data traffic"?

- The above text does not say anything about whether any data frame
other than 802.1X messages is not allowed to pass through uncontrolled
port.

Yoshihiro Ohba

> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Yoshihiro Ohba [mailto:yohba@tari.toshiba.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:47 PM
> > To: Walker, Jesse
> > Cc: Yoshihiro Ohba; Bernard Aboba; eap@frascone.com
> > Subject: Re: [eap] PANA and EAP keying framework
> > 
> > Jesse,
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:30:58PM -0800, Walker, Jesse wrote:
> > > Yoshihiro
> > >
> > > > I don't think 802.11i prohibits any IP traffic to pass throuth
> > > > uncontrolled port before 4-way handshake.  In fact, there is a
> > > > description in section 5.4.2.2 of IEEE 802.11i 2004 specification:
> > > [Walker, Jesse] This is not true. 802.1X frames are the only type of
> > > data 802.11i allows to pass over the link prior to key confirmation.
> IP
> > > traffic is not encapsulated with the 802.1X Ethertype, so is
> expressly
> > > blocked.
> > 
> > Can you point out which text in the 802.11i specification states this
> > specific behavior?  How can we interpret the quoted text in section
> > 5.4.2.2?
> > 
> > In any case, another way is to use multiple (virtual) APs, one
> > operating in 'open' authentication running PANA and the other
> > operating in 802.11i, and switching from the former AP to the latter
> > after PANA authentication.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Yoshihiro Ohba
> 
> 
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Yoshihiro,

> On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:59:33PM -0800, Walker, Jesse wrote:
> > There are numerous places, but you can start with clause 5.9.2.1,
which
> > gives an expository overview of the process.
>=20
> This partially answers to my questions, but I think the 802.11i
> specification is vague about the behavior you mentioned.
>=20
> For example, in the following text in clause 5.9.2.1:
>=20
> "
> Upon successful completion of the 4-Way Handshake, the Authenticator
> and Supplicant have authenticated each other; and the IEEE 802.1X
> Controlled Ports are unblocked to permit general data traffic.
> "
>=20
> - What is the definition of "general data traffic"?
[Walker, Jesse] General data traffic are MSDUs received through the
UNITDATA.request interface that have an Ethertype different from 802.1X.
>=20
> - The above text does not say anything about whether any data frame
> other than 802.1X messages is not allowed to pass through uncontrolled
> port.
[Walker, Jesse] You can find the answer reading 802.1X Clause 8. The
answer is no. All data traffic passes through the control port. The
uncontrolled port passes only frames of Ethertype 802.1X.

>=20
> Yoshihiro Ohba
>=20
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Yoshihiro Ohba [mailto:yohba@tari.toshiba.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:47 PM
> > > To: Walker, Jesse
> > > Cc: Yoshihiro Ohba; Bernard Aboba; eap@frascone.com
> > > Subject: Re: [eap] PANA and EAP keying framework
> > >
> > > Jesse,
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:30:58PM -0800, Walker, Jesse wrote:
> > > > Yoshihiro
> > > >
> > > > > I don't think 802.11i prohibits any IP traffic to pass throuth
> > > > > uncontrolled port before 4-way handshake.  In fact, there is a
> > > > > description in section 5.4.2.2 of IEEE 802.11i 2004
specification:
> > > > [Walker, Jesse] This is not true. 802.1X frames are the only
type of
> > > > data 802.11i allows to pass over the link prior to key
confirmation.
> > IP
> > > > traffic is not encapsulated with the 802.1X Ethertype, so is
> > expressly
> > > > blocked.
> > >
> > > Can you point out which text in the 802.11i specification states
this
> > > specific behavior?  How can we interpret the quoted text in
section
> > > 5.4.2.2?
> > >
> > > In any case, another way is to use multiple (virtual) APs, one
> > > operating in 'open' authentication running PANA and the other
> > > operating in 802.11i, and switching from the former AP to the
latter
> > > after PANA authentication.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Yoshihiro Ohba
> >
> >
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Hi,

I am not sure whether I should post an issue of my own, or respond to
the proposal provided by Bernard to resolve this issue. I have two
issues with revising the text the way Bernard suggested:=20

1)Why do we mean by "existing implementations" and why does it matter?
This document should provide requirements going forward. Is "caching
MSK/EMSK" a MUST NOT, a SHOULD NOT, or something else? And why are we
making a requirement based on the statement on "existing
implementations"?

2) The text requires deleting of a key (I am assuming this includes
AMSK) after transport to avoid key reuse. While, Yoshihiro's issue on
this text is that he assumes existence of a key holder (KDC) in the
architecture.=20
	2a) I am not sure why a KDC is better trusted than a AAA layer
entity (specifically a AAA client or a AAA server). =20
	2b) This means you cannot use EAP keying for bootstrapping keys
for a network protocol such as MIP, because after transport to the first
entity you must delete it. We did have a discussion on this in last
IETF. Unless, you actually move the AMSK to a non-AAA layer entity (such
as KDC) you cannot do that. I personally think the KDC should either be
a AAA client or in touch with one, if it is to receive keys from the AAA
infrastructure. Plus removing keys after transport is really different
from not caching them at all (I don't agree with either), as Yoshiro has
asked in his issue text.

This actually forces people to introduce a KDC in the network. Is that
the intention?

Thanks,

Madjid

Text from Yoshihiro
 The following text in section 2.3 of eap-keying draft talks about not
caching the keys at AAA layer, but mostly in terms of AAA servers.  I
think the text should be revised so that any AAA layer entity
including AAA client and AAA proxy does not cache the keys.  (Note: I
explicitly mention that AAA proxy does not cache the keys as well.
This might be related to the ongoing hokey discussion where KDC in the
visiting domain is going to be introduced.  Having said that, I think
that the KDC, which is expected to cache the keys, should be defined
outside the AAA layer.)

-----Original Message-----
From: Bernard Aboba [mailto:bernard_aboba@hotmail.com]=20
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 12:38 PM
To: eap@frascone.com
Subject: [eap] Proposed Resolution to Issue 323: AAA Key Cache

The text of Issue 323 is available here:
http://www.drizzle.com/~aboba/EAP/eapissues3.html#Issue%20323

The proposed resolution is as follows:

Change the text in Section 2.3 to the following:

"AAA

Existing AAA client, proxy and server implementations supporting
RADIUS/EAP [RFC3579] or Diameter EAP [RFC4072] do not support caching of
EAP keying material or parameters.  In existing AAA client, proxy and
server implementations, exported EAP keying material (MSK, EMSK and IV)
as well as parameters and derived keys are not cached and MUST be
presumed lost after the AAA exchange completes.

In order to avoid key reuse, the AAA layer MUST delete transported keys
once they are sent.  The AAA layer MUST NOT retain keys that it has
previously sent.  For example, a AAA layer that has transported the MSK
MUST delete it, and keys MUST NOT be derived from the MSK from that
point forward."


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On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 01:05:01PM -0800, Bernard Aboba wrote:
> >In any case, another way is to use multiple (virtual) APs, one
> >operating in 'open' authentication running PANA and the other
> >operating in 802.11i, and switching from the former AP to the latter
> >after PANA authentication.
> 
> That is also forbidden in IEEE 802.11i, which includes the authorizations 
> as part of the PMKSA context.  Therefore it is not permitted to use 
> authorizations provided for one virtual AP with another virtual AP.

The authorization provided for the 'open' authentication AP is given
free regardless of the PANA authentication result (the authoriation
for this AP is given even before starting PANA authentication).  On
the other hand, the authorization provided for other APs are given
only after successful PANA authentication.  So I don't understand what
is the issue here.

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Same response as that to issue 323 on caching EAP generated keys.=20

Either remove or mention explicitly which implementations (there are
counterexamples in the TSK text):=20
"In existing AAA client, proxy and server implementations, exported EAP
keying material (MSK, EMSK and IV) as well as parameters and derived
keys are not cached and MUST be presumed lost after the AAA exchange
completes."

Change MUST to SHOULD or MAY:=20
"In order to avoid key reuse, the AAA layer MUST delete transported keys
once they are sent.  The AAA layer MUST NOT retain keys that it has
previously sent.  For example, a AAA layer that has transported the MSK
MUST delete it, and keys MUST NOT be derived from the MSK from that
point forward."

Madjid


-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [eap] Proposed Resolution to issue 318: Transient Session Keys

The text of Issue 318 is enclosed below.  The proposed resolution is to
accept the proposed changes.

Issue 318: Transient Session Keys
Submitter name: Bernard Aboba
Submitter email address: aboba@internaut.com Date Submitted: November
30, 2005
Reference:
Document: Keying-08
Comment type: T
Priority: S
Section: 2.3
Rationale/Explanation of issue:

There is no section of the document that talks directly about generation
of transient session keys. Here is a suggested rewrite of Section 2.3:

2.3 Transient Session Keys

Existing EAP lower layers handle the caching of EAP keying material and
the generation of transient session keys in different ways:

PPP PPP, defined in [RFC1661] does not support caching of EAP keying
material or parameters. PPP ciphersuites derive their TSKs directly from
the MSK, as described in [RFC2716]. This method is NOT RECOMMENDED,
since were PPP to support caching, this could result in stale TSKs. As a
result, once the PPP session is terminated, EAP keying material and
parameters MUST be discarded.
Since caching of EAP keying material is not permitted, within PPP there
is no way to handle TSK rekey without EAP re-authentication.
Perfect Forward Secrecy (PFS) is only possible within PPP if the
negotiated EAP method supports this.

IKEv2
IKEv2, defined in [IKEv2] only uses EAP keying material for
authentication purposes and not key derivation. As a result, the keying
material derived within IKEv2 is independent of the EAP keying material
and rekey of IPsec SAs can be handled without requiring EAP
re-authentiation.
Since generation of keying material is independent of EAP, within IKEv2
it is possible to negotiate PFS, regardless of the EAP method that is
used. IKEv2 does not cache EAP keying material or parameters, nor does
it utilize the EAP Key-Lifetime parameter to determine the lifetime of
IPsec SAs. As result, once IKEv2 authentication completes it is assumed
that EAP keying material and parameters are discarded.

IEEE 802.11i
IEEE 802.11i enables caching of the MSK, but not the EMSK, IV, Peer-ID,
Server-ID, or Session-ID. More details are about the structure of the
cache are available in [IEEE-802.11i].
In IEEE 802.11i, TSKs are derived from the MSK using the 4-way
handshake, which includes a nonce exchange. This guarantees TSK
freshness even if the MSK is reused. The 4-way handshake also enables
TSK rekey without EAP re-authentication. PFS is only possible within
IEEE 802.11i if the negotiated EAP method supports this.

IEEE 802.1X-2004
IEEE 802.1X-2004, defined in [IEEE-802.1X-2004] does not support caching
of EAP keying material or parameters. Therefore once EAP authentication
completes, it is assumed that EAP keying material and parameters are
discarded.

IEEE 802.16e
IEEE 802.16e, defined in [IEEE-802.16e] supports caching of the MSK, but
not the EMSK, IV, Peer-ID, Server-ID or Session-ID.
In IEEE 802.16e, TSKs are generated by the authenticator without any
contribution by the peer. The TSKs are encrypted, authenticated and
integrity protected using the MSK. As a result, TSK rekey is possible
without EAP re-authentication. PFS is not possible even if the
negotiated EAP method supports it.

AAA  Existing AAA implementations supporting RADIUS/EAP [RFC3579] or
Diameter EAP [RFC4072] do not support caching of EAP keying material or
parameters.  In existing AAA client, proxy and server implementations,
exported EAP keying material (MSK, EMSK and IV) as well as parameters
and derived keys are not cached and MUST be presumed lost after the AAA
exchange completes.

In order to avoid key reuse, the AAA layer MUST delete transported keys
once they are sent.  The AAA layer MUST NOT retain keys that it has
previously sent.  For example, a AAA layer that has transported the MSK
MUST delete it, and keys MUST NOT be derived from the MSK from that
point forward."


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 Other parts of text seems to rightfully imply that the keys are
transported at the AAA layer, i.e. from AAA server through possibly AAA
proxies to AAA client, so why are we saying "transported from the EAP
server to the authenticator"??
Should say "AAA server to the AAA client" or "from the home AAA server
to the authenticator through the AAA client".

Madjid

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Subject: [eap] Proposed Resolution to Issue 314: AAA-Key Confusion

The text of Issue 314 is available here:
http://www.drizzle.com/~aboba/EAP/eapissues3.html#Issue%20314

The Proposed Resolution is as follows:


In Section 2.1, change:

"  An additional step (phase 1b) is required in deployments which
  include a backend authentication server, in order to transport keying
  material from the backend authentication server to the authenticator.
  In order to obey the principle of Mode Independence, where a backend
  server is present AAA Key transport needs to provide the exported EAP
  keying material and/or derived keys required for derivation of the
  TSKs.  Since existing TSK derivation techniques depend solely on the
  MSK, in existing AAA implementations, this is the only keying
  material replicated in the AAA key transport phase 1b. "

To:

" An additional step (phase 1b) is required in deployments which
  include a backend authentication server, in order to transport keying
  material from the backend authentication server to the authenticator.
  In order to obey the principle of Mode Independence, where a backend
  server is present, all keying material which us required by the lower
layer needs to
  be transported from the EAP server to the authenticator.
  Since existing TSK derivation techniques depend solely on the
  MSK, in existing implementations, this is the only keying
  material replicated in the AAA key transport phase 1b. "


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>1)Why do we mean by "existing implementations" and why does it matter?

The focus of  this work item is on describing the behavior of RFC 3748, 4072 
and 3579 implementations.

>This document should provide requirements going forward. Is "caching
>MSK/EMSK" a MUST NOT, a SHOULD NOT, or something else?

Caching of MSK/EMSK is a MUST NOT for RFC 4072 and 3579 implementations.

>2) The text requires deleting of a key (I am assuming this includes
>AMSK) after transport to avoid key reuse.

The text refers to any key that is transported, so yes it would also apply 
to an AMSK.  This follows from the security assumptions and AAA Key 
Management requirements.  Unless those requirements are met, this document 
will not be approved by the IESG.


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>Other parts of text seems to rightfully imply that the keys are
>transported at the AAA layer, i.e. from AAA server through possibly AAA
>proxies to AAA client, so why are we saying "transported from the EAP
>server to the authenticator"??

Transport from the EAP server to the EAP authenticator is required for mode 
independence.  In this instance the AAA protocol is only a mechanism to 
enable that transport.


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Jesse,

On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 01:42:38PM -0800, Walker, Jesse wrote:
> > "
> > Upon successful completion of the 4-Way Handshake, the Authenticator
> > and Supplicant have authenticated each other; and the IEEE 802.1X
> > Controlled Ports are unblocked to permit general data traffic.
> > "
> > 
> > - What is the definition of "general data traffic"?
> [Walker, Jesse] General data traffic are MSDUs received through the
> UNITDATA.request interface that have an Ethertype different from 802.1X.

(This should have been clearly stated in the specification.)

> > 
> > - The above text does not say anything about whether any data frame
> > other than 802.1X messages is not allowed to pass through uncontrolled
> > port.
> [Walker, Jesse] You can find the answer reading 802.1X Clause 8. The
> answer is no. All data traffic passes through the control port. The
> uncontrolled port passes only frames of Ethertype 802.1X.

I read clause 8 of 802.1aa-D6.1 (sorry, I don't have the latest 802.1X
draft standard), but I was not able to find the description on the
behavior you answered.  I rather found the following text in clause
6.4 of 802.1aa-D6.1:

"
It is expected that most protocol exchanges conducted by other
functions of the System will make use of one or more of the System's
controlled Ports. However, a given protocol may need to bypass the
authorization function and make use of the uncontrolled Port. 
"

I also found several descriptions in Appendix C of 802.1aa-D6.1 on
allowing DHCP traffic to be forwarded to unauthenticated VLAN after
authentication failure.  Isn't the DHCP traffic in this case passing
throuth the uncontrolled port?

Regards,
Yoshihiro Ohba

> 
> > 
> > Yoshihiro Ohba
> > 
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Yoshihiro Ohba [mailto:yohba@tari.toshiba.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:47 PM
> > > > To: Walker, Jesse
> > > > Cc: Yoshihiro Ohba; Bernard Aboba; eap@frascone.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [eap] PANA and EAP keying framework
> > > >
> > > > Jesse,
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:30:58PM -0800, Walker, Jesse wrote:
> > > > > Yoshihiro
> > > > >
> > > > > > I don't think 802.11i prohibits any IP traffic to pass throuth
> > > > > > uncontrolled port before 4-way handshake.  In fact, there is a
> > > > > > description in section 5.4.2.2 of IEEE 802.11i 2004
> specification:
> > > > > [Walker, Jesse] This is not true. 802.1X frames are the only
> type of
> > > > > data 802.11i allows to pass over the link prior to key
> confirmation.
> > > IP
> > > > > traffic is not encapsulated with the 802.1X Ethertype, so is
> > > expressly
> > > > > blocked.
> > > >
> > > > Can you point out which text in the 802.11i specification states
> this
> > > > specific behavior?  How can we interpret the quoted text in
> section
> > > > 5.4.2.2?
> > > >
> > > > In any case, another way is to use multiple (virtual) APs, one
> > > > operating in 'open' authentication running PANA and the other
> > > > operating in 802.11i, and switching from the former AP to the
> latter
> > > > after PANA authentication.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Yoshihiro Ohba
> > >
> > >
> 
> 
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> To:
> 
> "The EAP server also stores the peer's identity as well as other
> information
> associated with it. This information may be used to determine whether
> access
> to some service should be granted. 

Do we really have to say this last sentence? It is mixing up authentication
(what EAP server does) with authorization (what, e.g., RADIUS server does).

Alper



> The peer
> stores information necessary to choose which secret to use for which
> service.
> 
> If authentication is based on proof of possession of the private key
> corresponding to the public key contained within a certificate, the
> parties store the EAP method to be used and the trust anchors used to
> validate the certificates.  The EAP server also stores the peer's
> identity and the peer stores information
> necessary to choose which certificate to use for which service."
> 
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Hello Jesse

Only a short question for clarification. As Yoshi has commented in 
section 5.4.2.2 in 802.11i we can find:

" 
IEEE 802.1X Supplicants and Authenticators exchange
protocol information via the IEEE 802.1X Uncontrolled Port. It is
expected that most other protocol exchanges will make use of the IEEE
802.1X Controlled Ports. However, a given protocol may need to bypass
the authorization function and make use of the IEEE 802.1X
Uncontrolled Port.
"

Then when we read 

"However, a given protocol may need to bypass
the authorization function and make use of the IEEE 802.1X
Uncontrolled Port."
 
we should understand "a given protocol" as only 802.1X frames , right?

Regards.


Walker, Jesse wrote:

>There are numerous places, but you can start with clause 5.9.2.1, which
>gives an expository overview of the process.
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Yoshihiro Ohba [mailto:yohba@tari.toshiba.com]
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:47 PM
>>To: Walker, Jesse
>>Cc: Yoshihiro Ohba; Bernard Aboba; eap@frascone.com
>>Subject: Re: [eap] PANA and EAP keying framework
>>
>>Jesse,
>>
>>On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:30:58PM -0800, Walker, Jesse wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Yoshihiro
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>I don't think 802.11i prohibits any IP traffic to pass throuth
>>>>uncontrolled port before 4-way handshake.  In fact, there is a
>>>>description in section 5.4.2.2 of IEEE 802.11i 2004 specification:
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>[Walker, Jesse] This is not true. 802.1X frames are the only type of
>>>data 802.11i allows to pass over the link prior to key confirmation.
>>>      
>>>
>IP
>  
>
>>>traffic is not encapsulated with the 802.1X Ethertype, so is
>>>      
>>>
>expressly
>  
>
>>>blocked.
>>>      
>>>
>>Can you point out which text in the 802.11i specification states this
>>specific behavior?  How can we interpret the quoted text in section
>>5.4.2.2?
>>
>>In any case, another way is to use multiple (virtual) APs, one
>>operating in 'open' authentication running PANA and the other
>>operating in 802.11i, and switching from the former AP to the latter
>>after PANA authentication.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Yoshihiro Ohba
>>    
>>
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Looks ok. s/us/is/

Bernard Aboba wrote:

> The text of Issue 314 is available here:
> http://www.drizzle.com/~aboba/EAP/eapissues3.html#Issue%20314
>
> The Proposed Resolution is as follows:
>
> In Section 1.2, change:
>
> "AAA-Key
>     A key derived by the peer and EAP server, used by the peer and
>     authenticator in the derivation of Transient Session Keys (TSKs).
>     Where a backend authentication server is present, the AAA-Key is
>     transported from the backend authentication server to the
>     authenticator.  In existing usage, the AAA-Key is always derived
>     from the MSK and so can be referred to using the MSK name.  AAA-Key
>     = MSK(0,63)."
>
> To:
>
> "AAA-Key
> The term "AAA-Key" is synonymous with MSK."
>
> In Section 2.1, change:
>
> "  An additional step (phase 1b) is required in deployments which
>  include a backend authentication server, in order to transport keying
>  material from the backend authentication server to the authenticator.
>  In order to obey the principle of Mode Independence, where a backend
>  server is present AAA Key transport needs to provide the exported EAP
>  keying material and/or derived keys required for derivation of the
>  TSKs.  Since existing TSK derivation techniques depend solely on the
>  MSK, in existing AAA implementations, this is the only keying
>  material replicated in the AAA key transport phase 1b. "
>
> To:
>
> " An additional step (phase 1b) is required in deployments which
>  include a backend authentication server, in order to transport keying
>  material from the backend authentication server to the authenticator.
>  In order to obey the principle of Mode Independence, where a backend
>  server is present, all keying material which us required by the lower 
> layer needs to
>  be transported from the EAP server to the authenticator.
>  Since existing TSK derivation techniques depend solely on the
>  MSK, in existing implementations, this is the only keying
>  material replicated in the AAA key transport phase 1b. "
>
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Ok.

Bernard Aboba wrote:

> The text of Issue 315 is available here:
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>
> The proposed resolution is as follows:
>
> Within Section 1.4.4 change:
>
> "  Ciphersuite Independence is a consequence of the principles of Mode
>   Independence and Media Independence."
>
> To:
>
> "Ciphersuite Independence is a requirement for Media Independence. 
> Since lower
> layer ciphersuites vary between media, media independence requires that
> EAP keying material needs to be large enough (with sufficient entropy) to
> handle any ciphersuite."
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Ok.

Bernard Aboba wrote:

> The text of Issue 316 is available here:
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>
> The Proposed Resolution is as follows:
>
> The proposed resolution is as follows:
>
> In Section 5.8, change:
>
> "Lower Layer
>    The lower layer Secure Association Protocol MUST generate a fresh
>    session key for each session, even if the keying material and
>    parameters provided by EAP methods are cached, or the peer or
>    authenticator lacks a high entropy random number generator.  A
>    RECOMMENDED method is for the peer and authenticator to each
>    provide a nonce or counter of at least 128 bits, used in session
>    key derivation. "
>
> To:
>
> "Lower Layer
> The lower layer Secure Association Protocol MUST generate a fresh
> session key for each session, even if the keying material and
> parameters provided by EAP methods are cached, or the peer or
> authenticator lack a high entropy random number generator. A
> RECOMMENDED method is for the peer and authenticator to each
> provide a nonce or counter used in session key derivation.
> If a nonce is used, it is RECOMMENDED that it be at least 128 bits."
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This is mostly OK, but I have a few problems below:

> the EAP method that is used. IKEv2 does not cache EAP keying
> material or parameters, nor does it utilize the EAP Key-Lifetime
> parameter to determine the lifetime of IPsec SAs. As result,
> once IKEv2 authentication completes it is assumed that
> EAP keying material and parameters are discarded.

Hmm. This seems a bit problematic to me. In current AAA,
we do not have separate MSK and session lifetime attributes;
we just have one lifetime attribute. The description above
focuses only on the key lifetime aspects. But I would actually
like a security gateway to limit the lifetime of the SAs to
Session-Timeout in RADIUS, even if the lifetime can not be
communicated to the client.

> In order to avoid key reuse, the AAA layer MUST delete transported
> keys once they are sent.  The AAA layer MUST NOT retain keys that
> it has previously sent.  For example, a AAA
> layer that has transported the MSK MUST delete it, and keys MUST
> NOT be derived from the MSK from that point forward."

I believe we discussed this a bit in IETF-64 hokey bar bof.
The conclusion seemed to be that there are scenarios where
you need to deliver a symmetric key to two network elements
from AAA, and that we should support them. The requirement
in above text is more suited to cases where the EAP-derived
keys are used between the client and a single network
element.  So, should we say something that allows delivery
of a key to one or more parties, and only then deleting it?
OTOH, in the practical cases that I have seen for such symmetric
keys would have been better served by AAA-generated random
key than anything that has to do with EAP.

--Jari

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Ok.

Bernard Aboba wrote:

> The text of Issue 319 is available here:
> http://www.drizzle.com/~aboba/EAP/eapissues3.html#Issue%20319
>
> The Proposed Resolution is as follows:
>
> In  Section 2.2, delete:
>
> "In order to prevent the compromise of
> transported EAP keying material and parameters, the AAA client and
> EAP authenticator MUST be co-resident."
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Ok.

Bernard Aboba wrote:

> The text of Issue 321 is available here:
> http://www.drizzle.com/~aboba/EAP/eapissues3.html#Issue%20321
>
> The proposed resolution is as follows:
>
> Section 1.3:
>
> In Figure 1, add (Deprecated) to the IV Derivation box and
> (Optional) to the IV arrow.
>
> Section 1.3.1
>
> Change:
>
> "MSK, EMSK and IV Names"
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> To:
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> "MSK and EMSK names"
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On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 10:31:05AM -0800, Bernard Aboba wrote:
> The text of Issue 314 is available here:
> http://www.drizzle.com/~aboba/EAP/eapissues3.html#Issue%20314
> 
> The Proposed Resolution is as follows:
> 
> In Section 1.2, change:
> 
> "AAA-Key
>     A key derived by the peer and EAP server, used by the peer and
>     authenticator in the derivation of Transient Session Keys (TSKs).
>     Where a backend authentication server is present, the AAA-Key is
>     transported from the backend authentication server to the
>     authenticator.  In existing usage, the AAA-Key is always derived
>     from the MSK and so can be referred to using the MSK name.  AAA-Key
>     = MSK(0,63)."
> 
> To:
> 
> "AAA-Key
> The term "AAA-Key" is synonymous with MSK."

This does not work for draft-ohba-eap-aaakey-binding-01 where 
AAA-Key = KDF(MSK, AAA-Key-name|key-binding-blob).

Yoshihiro Ohba

> 
> In Section 2.1, change:
> 
> "  An additional step (phase 1b) is required in deployments which
>  include a backend authentication server, in order to transport keying
>  material from the backend authentication server to the authenticator.
>  In order to obey the principle of Mode Independence, where a backend
>  server is present AAA Key transport needs to provide the exported EAP
>  keying material and/or derived keys required for derivation of the
>  TSKs.  Since existing TSK derivation techniques depend solely on the
>  MSK, in existing AAA implementations, this is the only keying
>  material replicated in the AAA key transport phase 1b. "
> 
> To:
> 
> " An additional step (phase 1b) is required in deployments which
>  include a backend authentication server, in order to transport keying
>  material from the backend authentication server to the authenticator.
>  In order to obey the principle of Mode Independence, where a backend
>  server is present, all keying material which us required by the lower 
> layer needs to
>  be transported from the EAP server to the authenticator.
>  Since existing TSK derivation techniques depend solely on the
>  MSK, in existing implementations, this is the only keying
>  material replicated in the AAA key transport phase 1b. "
> 
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This is difficult to figure out with many features like this not well docum=
ented in marketing datasheets, so I'd thought to toss it to this list:

If one desired to test 801.X _wired_ EAP support,=20
what would be some of the most _inexpensive_ devices you could obtain these=
 days?

(ie.  I don't want to buy a $nK rack device just for testing)

You can reply off list, if you wish.

Dave.
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Bernard Aboba wrote

> Given that a Type Code has already been allocated to EAP MAKE, a 
> request for an additional Type Code allocation for the same protocol 
> would represent a "block allocation" as described in RFC 3748,

I agree that this is confusing. We can't have the same know, or we'll
never figure out later what is going on. From a quick review of 
draft-berrendo
and draft-vanderveen, however, it seems that these are different protocols.
If Michaela submitted her draft and request under a different name (say,
EAP Flarion MAKE), would that remove this particular problem?

--Jari

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I am struggling to understand the minimum logical functionality of
pass-through authentictor, does it include receiving keys from EAP
server? If AAA protocol is the only mechanism, then it is the AAA client
that receives the keys, not the authenticator.=20
I look at both EAP RFC 3748 and EAP keying and I only find:=20
"authenticator
      The end of the link initiating EAP authentication.  The term
      authenticator is used in [IEEE-802.1X], and has the same meaning
      in this document."
Which does not include receiving keys.
If a keying architecture has a KDC that needs to receive a key such as
MSK from the EAP server (and later act as a key holder), would it have
to be colocated with the authenticator? Or it only needs to have AAA
client functionality? I would think the latter.=20
=20
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Subject: RE: [eap] Proposed Resolution to Issue 314: AAA-Key Confusion

>Other parts of text seems to rightfully imply that the keys are=20
>transported at the AAA layer, i.e. from AAA server through possibly AAA

>proxies to AAA client, so why are we saying "transported from the EAP=20
>server to the authenticator"??

Transport from the EAP server to the EAP authenticator is required for
mode independence.  In this instance the AAA protocol is only a
mechanism to enable that transport.


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If caching of MSK/EMSK is a MUST NOT for 4072 and 3579 and not for 3748,
then why don't we state it so? And why do we make the caching a MUST NOT
in a general case?

Also, if the focus is document the existing behavior of the 3 RFCs
below, rather than providing guidance for future uses of EAP keying,
then the document should not state:

"This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the
   Internet community,..."
On the front page.=20
Because the way it is, it is not very accommodating for future uses of
EAP keying framework. Having to remove the cache of a key after
transport of say from AAA server to AAA client, will not allow the AAA
server to use that key for further keying. A simple example is if you
want to bootstrap a key for two agents, each of them behind one separate
AAA client (take an AR and an HA in MIPv6 example),=20

Agent 1<--AAA client1<------AAA server---->AAA client 2---->agent 2
if you have RADIUS and move the key based on the request from one
client, you have to delete it, then you cannot send it to the second AAA
client.=20

Is there anywhere in the AAA key management requirement that says AAA
server cannot be trusted with the keys?

Madjid
-----Original Message-----
From: Bernard Aboba [mailto:bernard_aboba@hotmail.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:58 PM
To: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; eap@frascone.com
Subject: RE: [eap] Proposed Resolution to Issue 323: AAA Key Cache

>1)Why do we mean by "existing implementations" and why does it matter?

The focus of  this work item is on describing the behavior of RFC 3748,
4072 and 3579 implementations.

>This document should provide requirements going forward. Is "caching=20
>MSK/EMSK" a MUST NOT, a SHOULD NOT, or something else?

Caching of MSK/EMSK is a MUST NOT for RFC 4072 and 3579 implementations.

>2) The text requires deleting of a key (I am assuming this includes
>AMSK) after transport to avoid key reuse.

The text refers to any key that is transported, so yes it would also
apply to an AMSK.  This follows from the security assumptions and AAA
Key Management requirements.  Unless those requirements are met, this
document will not be approved by the IESG.


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>>the EAP method that is used. IKEv2 does not cache EAP keying
>>material or parameters, nor does it utilize the EAP Key-Lifetime
>>parameter to determine the lifetime of IPsec SAs. As result,
>>once IKEv2 authentication completes it is assumed that
>>EAP keying material and parameters are discarded.
>
>Hmm. This seems a bit problematic to me. In current AAA,
>we do not have separate MSK and session lifetime attributes;
>we just have one lifetime attribute. The description above
>focuses only on the key lifetime aspects. But I would actually
>like a security gateway to limit the lifetime of the SAs to
>Session-Timeout in RADIUS, even if the lifetime can not be
>communicated to the client.

The above paragraph is referring only to the Key-Lifetime parameter exported 
by EAP methods, not to the Session-Timeout attribute.  With VPN, 
Session-Timeout is used to limit the VPN session time.   However, the point 
is that in this case Session-Timeout does not represent the MSK lifetime, 
which is zero (e.g. MSK is not cached).

Potential rewrite:

the EAP method that is used. IKEv2 does not cache EAP keying
material or parameters. As result,
once IKEv2 authentication completes it is assumed that
EAP keying material and parameters are discarded.
The Session-Timeout attribute is therefore interpretted as a
limit on the VPN session time, rather than an indication of the
MSK key lifetime.


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>If Michaela submitted her draft and request under a different name (say, 
>EAP Flarion MAKE), would that remove this particular problem?

I'm told that the authors have chose to rename the protocol EAP-SAKE.  That 
does take care of this issue (although the renamed document would still need 
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> The above paragraph is referring only to the Key-Lifetime parameter 
> exported by EAP methods, not to the Session-Timeout attribute.  With 
> VPN, Session-Timeout is used to limit the VPN session time.   However, 
> the point is that in this case Session-Timeout does not represent the 
> MSK lifetime, which is zero (e.g. MSK is not cached).

Yes. OK.

> Potential rewrite:
>
> the EAP method that is used. IKEv2 does not cache EAP keying
> material or parameters. As result,
> once IKEv2 authentication completes it is assumed that
> EAP keying material and parameters are discarded.
> The Session-Timeout attribute is therefore interpretted as a
> limit on the VPN session time, rather than an indication of the
> MSK key lifetime.

Works for me. s/etted/eted/, I think.

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>If Michaela submitted her draft and request under a different name =
(say,=20
>EAP Flarion MAKE), would that remove this particular problem?

I'm told that the authors have chose to rename the protocol EAP-SAKE.  =
That=20
does take care of this issue (although the renamed document would still =
need=20
to go through Expert Review).

MCV>> Indeed, we are going to re-name this method. If there are any =
experts
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Question: Does EAP keying allow sending keys to an entity other than the
initial authenticator, e.g. another AAA client or a key holder?=20
Or Does the EAP keying framework that prohibits keys being sent to an
entity other than the initial authenticator?


Thanks,

Madjid

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Bernard Aboba wrote:

> Under Joe's proposal, an AMSK created during the original exchange can

> be cached in the AAA server.  One way that "Key Request" could work=20
> would be for the EAP peer to request that a key be sent to the new=20
> authenticator.  It would make this request by contacting the new=20
> authenticator, which would generate a AAA request. The EAP peer would=20
> mutually authenticate to the AAA server, demonstrate possession of the

> cached AMSK, and then request that a key derived from that AMSK be
> sent to the new EAP authenticator.   Via the AAA request the new EAP=20
> authenticator would mutually authenticate to the AAA Server.
>
> So we have:
>
> a. Authentication of parties:  EAP peer- AAA server;  EAP=20
> authenticator - EAP server;  EAP peer-authenticator (through a=20
> subsequent SAP exchange)
>
> b. Freshness.  Presumably the EAP peer - AAA server exchange includes=20
> nonces exchanged by both parties to ensure freshness of the derived=20
> keys.  Also the SAP exchange would include a nonce exchange.
>
> c. "Channel binding":  The EAP peer requests that a key be sent via=20
> the entity that it wants the key sent to.  The new authenticator=20
> identifies itself to the AAA server, allowing the EAP peer and AAA=20
> server to verify that it is telling the same information to both the=20
> AAA server and EAP peer.

I like this. What do we need to make this possible in the keying
framework?

- Say EMSK is kept in method layer

- Possibly say that EMSK can be deleted after AAA has made
  its declaration of what application keys its going to need
  (assuming we always know what applications are authorized
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- Clarify the caching and parent death rules for AMSks.

--Jari


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If we do so, we are effectively creating a scenario (Authenticated-)Man-in-the-Middle? Sounds familiar? 

Regards,

Renwei


>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 07:13 PM
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>Question: Does EAP keying allow sending keys to an entity other than the
>initial authenticator, e.g. another AAA client or a key holder? 
>Or Does the EAP keying framework that prohibits keys being sent to an
>entity other than the initial authenticator?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Madjid
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 6:34 PM
>To: Bernard Aboba
>Cc: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; aboba@internaut.com; eap@frascone.com
>Subject: Re: [eap] RE: Issue: AAA Key Caching effectively prohibited?
>
>Bernard Aboba wrote:
>
>> Under Joe's proposal, an AMSK created during the original exchange can
>
>> be cached in the AAA server.  One way that "Key Request" could work 
>> would be for the EAP peer to request that a key be sent to the new 
>> authenticator.  It would make this request by contacting the new 
>> authenticator, which would generate a AAA request. The EAP peer would 
>> mutually authenticate to the AAA server, demonstrate possession of the
>
>> cached AMSK, and then request that a key derived from that AMSK be
>> sent to the new EAP authenticator.   Via the AAA request the new EAP 
>> authenticator would mutually authenticate to the AAA Server.
>>
>> So we have:
>>
>> a. Authentication of parties:  EAP peer- AAA server;  EAP 
>> authenticator - EAP server;  EAP peer-authenticator (through a 
>> subsequent SAP exchange)
>>
>> b. Freshness.  Presumably the EAP peer - AAA server exchange includes 
>> nonces exchanged by both parties to ensure freshness of the derived 
>> keys.  Also the SAP exchange would include a nonce exchange.
>>
>> c. "Channel binding":  The EAP peer requests that a key be sent via 
>> the entity that it wants the key sent to.  The new authenticator 
>> identifies itself to the AAA server, allowing the EAP peer and AAA 
>> server to verify that it is telling the same information to both the 
>> AAA server and EAP peer.
>
>I like this. What do we need to make this possible in the keying
>framework?
>
>- Say EMSK is kept in method layer
>
>- Possibly say that EMSK can be deleted after AAA has made
>  its declaration of what application keys its going to need
>  (assuming we always know what applications are authorized
>  a priori - but I think that's a good assumption).
>
>- Clarify the caching and parent death rules for AMSks.
>
>--Jari
>
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rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:

>A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.
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>        RFC 4186
>
>        Title:      Extensible Authentication Protocol Method for
>                    Global System for Mobile Communications (GSM)
>                    Subscriber Identity Modules (EAP-SIM)
>        Author(s):  H. Haverinen, Ed., J. Salowey, Ed.
>        Status:     Informational
>        Date:       January 2006
>        Mailbox:    henry.haverinen@nokia.com, jsalowey@cisco.com
>        Pages:      92
>        Characters: 220807
>        Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:    None
>
>        I-D Tag:    draft-haverinen-pppext-eap-sim-16.txt
>
>        URL:        ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc4186.txt
>
>
>This document specifies an Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP)
>mechanism for authentication and session key distribution using the
>Global System for Mobile Communications (GSM) Subscriber Identity
>Module (SIM).  GSM is a second generation mobile network standard.
>The EAP-SIM mechanism specifies enhancements to GSM authentication
>and key agreement whereby multiple authentication triplets can be
>combined to create authentication responses and session keys of
>greater strength than the individual GSM triplets.  The mechanism
>also includes network authentication, user anonymity support, result
>indications, and a fast re-authentication procedure.
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>        RFC 4187
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>        Title:      Extensible Authentication Protocol Method for 3rd
>                    Generation Authentication and Key Agreement
>                    (EAP-AKA)
>        Author(s):  J. Arkko, H. Haverinen
>        Status:     Informational
>        Date:       January 2006
>        Mailbox:    jari.Arkko@ericsson.com, henry.haverinen@nokia.com
>        Pages:      79
>        Characters: 194958
>        Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:    None
>
>        I-D Tag:    draft-arkko-pppext-eap-aka-15.txt
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>        URL:        ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc4187.txt
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>
>This document specifies an Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP)
>mechanism for authentication and session key distribution that uses
>the Authentication and Key Agreement (AKA) mechanism.  AKA is used in
>the 3rd generation mobile networks Universal Mobile
>Telecommunications System (UMTS) and CDMA2000.  AKA is based on
>symmetric keys, and typically runs in a Subscriber Identity Module,
>which is a UMTS Subscriber Identity Module, USIM, or a (Removable)
>User Identity Module, (R)UIM, similar to a smart card.
>
>EAP-AKA includes optional identity privacy support, optional result
>indications, and an optional fast re-authentication procedure.
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On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 04:09:19PM +0200, Jari Arkko wrote:
> >--
> >There are two styles of channel bindings that may be supported by EAP
> >methods. The text in this section describes exportable channel bindings.
> >There is also the approach where the bindings are non exportable.  In
> >this case the method does a binary comparision of the channelbindings or
> >hash of the channel bindings and fails if the result does not match.  I
> >can see the possibility of a method supporting both styles.  Should we
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> Not sure -- I don't have a requirement for that. Others?

I am much in favor of including both.

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Not really sure what you mean by creating a scenario.  This is a real
life deployment. 11r has defined key holders.=20
And what is wrong with trusted man in the middles?

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Subject: Re: [eap] sending keys to authenticator?: was: Issue: AAA Key
Caching effectively prohibited?

If we do so, we are effectively creating a scenario
(Authenticated-)Man-in-the-Middle? Sounds familiar?=20

Regards,

Renwei


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>
>Question: Does EAP keying allow sending keys to an entity other than=20
>the initial authenticator, e.g. another AAA client or a key holder?
>Or Does the EAP keying framework that prohibits keys being sent to an=20
>entity other than the initial authenticator?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Madjid
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jari Arkko [mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net]
>Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 6:34 PM
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>Cc: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; aboba@internaut.com; eap@frascone.com
>Subject: Re: [eap] RE: Issue: AAA Key Caching effectively prohibited?
>
>Bernard Aboba wrote:
>
>> Under Joe's proposal, an AMSK created during the original exchange=20
>> can
>
>> be cached in the AAA server.  One way that "Key Request" could work=20
>> would be for the EAP peer to request that a key be sent to the new=20
>> authenticator.  It would make this request by contacting the new=20
>> authenticator, which would generate a AAA request. The EAP peer would

>> mutually authenticate to the AAA server, demonstrate possession of=20
>> the
>
>> cached AMSK, and then request that a key derived from that AMSK be
>> sent to the new EAP authenticator.   Via the AAA request the new EAP=20
>> authenticator would mutually authenticate to the AAA Server.
>>
>> So we have:
>>
>> a. Authentication of parties:  EAP peer- AAA server;  EAP=20
>> authenticator - EAP server;  EAP peer-authenticator (through a=20
>> subsequent SAP exchange)
>>
>> b. Freshness.  Presumably the EAP peer - AAA server exchange includes

>> nonces exchanged by both parties to ensure freshness of the derived=20
>> keys.  Also the SAP exchange would include a nonce exchange.
>>
>> c. "Channel binding":  The EAP peer requests that a key be sent via=20
>> the entity that it wants the key sent to.  The new authenticator=20
>> identifies itself to the AAA server, allowing the EAP peer and AAA=20
>> server to verify that it is telling the same information to both the=20
>> AAA server and EAP peer.
>
>I like this. What do we need to make this possible in the keying=20
>framework?
>
>- Say EMSK is kept in method layer
>
>- Possibly say that EMSK can be deleted after AAA has made
>  its declaration of what application keys its going to need
>  (assuming we always know what applications are authorized
>  a priori - but I think that's a good assumption).
>
>- Clarify the caching and parent death rules for AMSks.
>
>--Jari
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Hi, eap-archive.


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11r does not have a 'trusted' man-in-the-middle.  11r still bases its
security model on that the AAA Key (MSK) gets delivered to the
authorized Authenticator only.  This is the authenticator through which
the STA performed the full EAP authentication.  This is called R0 Key
holder (R0KH) in 11r draft.  R0KH derives the PMK-R0 from the MSK with
domain specific parameters binding.

R0KH also derives multiple PMK-R1 keys (11r key hierarchy) from the
PMK-R0, for distribution to other authenticators (called R1 key holders)
within the same administrative domain (called mobility domain in 11r).
A local trusted party (say, MDC - Mobility Domain Controller) helps
establish mutual authentication between these authenticators (key
holders in 11r) and derives mutual Key Encryption Keys (KEKs).  These
KEKs will be used for secure delivery of PMK-R1 keys from R0KH to R1KHs.
AAA server may not have any knowledge of this key hierarchy (by design),
and distribution.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1 [mailto:Madjid.Nakhjiri@motorola.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:11 PM
> To: Renwei Li; Jari Arkko; Bernard Aboba
> Cc: eap@frascone.com; aboba@internaut.com
> Subject: RE: [eap] sending keys to authenticator?: was: Issue: AAA
KeyCaching effectively
> prohibited?
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> Not really sure what you mean by creating a scenario.  This is a real
> life deployment. 11r has defined key holders.
> And what is wrong with trusted man in the middles?
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Renwei Li [mailto:renwei@anqsystems.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:00 PM
> To: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; Jari Arkko; Bernard Aboba
> Cc: eap@frascone.com; aboba@internaut.com
> Subject: Re: [eap] sending keys to authenticator?: was: Issue: AAA Key
> Caching effectively prohibited?
>=20
> If we do so, we are effectively creating a scenario
> (Authenticated-)Man-in-the-Middle? Sounds familiar?
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> Regards,
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> Renwei
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1 [mailto:Madjid.Nakhjiri@motorola.com]
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 07:13 PM
> >To: 'Jari Arkko', 'Bernard Aboba'
> >Cc: eap@frascone.com, aboba@internaut.com
> >Subject: RE: [eap] sending keys to authenticator?: was: Issue: AAA
Key
> Caching	effectively prohibited?
> >
> >Question: Does EAP keying allow sending keys to an entity other than
> >the initial authenticator, e.g. another AAA client or a key holder?
> >Or Does the EAP keying framework that prohibits keys being sent to an
> >entity other than the initial authenticator?
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Madjid
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jari Arkko [mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net]
> >Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 6:34 PM
> >To: Bernard Aboba
> >Cc: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; aboba@internaut.com; eap@frascone.com
> >Subject: Re: [eap] RE: Issue: AAA Key Caching effectively prohibited?
> >
> >Bernard Aboba wrote:
> >
> >> Under Joe's proposal, an AMSK created during the original exchange
> >> can
> >
> >> be cached in the AAA server.  One way that "Key Request" could work
> >> would be for the EAP peer to request that a key be sent to the new
> >> authenticator.  It would make this request by contacting the new
> >> authenticator, which would generate a AAA request. The EAP peer
would
>=20
> >> mutually authenticate to the AAA server, demonstrate possession of
> >> the
> >
> >> cached AMSK, and then request that a key derived from that AMSK be
> >> sent to the new EAP authenticator.   Via the AAA request the new
EAP
> >> authenticator would mutually authenticate to the AAA Server.
> >>
> >> So we have:
> >>
> >> a. Authentication of parties:  EAP peer- AAA server;  EAP
> >> authenticator - EAP server;  EAP peer-authenticator (through a
> >> subsequent SAP exchange)
> >>
> >> b. Freshness.  Presumably the EAP peer - AAA server exchange
includes
>=20
> >> nonces exchanged by both parties to ensure freshness of the derived
> >> keys.  Also the SAP exchange would include a nonce exchange.
> >>
> >> c. "Channel binding":  The EAP peer requests that a key be sent via
> >> the entity that it wants the key sent to.  The new authenticator
> >> identifies itself to the AAA server, allowing the EAP peer and AAA
> >> server to verify that it is telling the same information to both
the
> >> AAA server and EAP peer.
> >
> >I like this. What do we need to make this possible in the keying
> >framework?
> >
> >- Say EMSK is kept in method layer
> >
> >- Possibly say that EMSK can be deleted after AAA has made
> >  its declaration of what application keys its going to need
> >  (assuming we always know what applications are authorized
> >  a priori - but I think that's a good assumption).
> >
> >- Clarify the caching and parent death rules for AMSks.
> >
> >--Jari
> >
> >
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Friday Close: $0.165 
Friday Volume: 120,000 
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Long Term: $1.50 - $1.75 

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Jan 9, 2006 8:14:00 AM 

m-Wise, Inc. (OTCBB:MWIS), a leading technology provider 
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today announced that venture capital firm Syntek Capital, A.G. 
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was for restricted shares at market value with no discount relative 
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Shay Ben-Asulin, chairman of m-Wise said, "We are very happy that
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The management of m-Wise believes that increasing our shareholder's equity, 
coupled with completing several business transactions shortly, 
will result in excellent return to Syntek and all our shareholders." 

Ronni Benatoff, director of Syntek Capital said, "We are pleased 
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Subject: RE: [eap] Proposed Resolution to Issue 311: EAP and Authorization
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> Subject: [eap] Proposed Resolution to Issue 311: EAP and Authorization
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> The text of Issue 311 is available here:
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> The proposed resolution is as follows:
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> In Section 1.3, change:
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> "  The EAP server also
>    stores the peer's identity and/or other information necessary to
>    decide whether access to some service should be granted.  The peer
>    stores information necessary to choose which secret to use=20
> for which
>    service.
>=20
>    If authentication is based on proof of possession of the=20
> private key
>    corresponding to the public key contained within a certificate, the
>    parties store the EAP method to be used and the trust=20
> anchors used to
>    validate the certificates.  The EAP server also stores the peer's
>    identity and/or other information necessary to decide=20
> whether access
>    to some service should be granted.  The peer stores information
>    necessary to choose which certificate to use for which service."
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> To:
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> "The EAP server also stores the peer's identity as well as=20
> other information
> associated with it. This information may be used to determine=20
> whether access
> to some service should be granted. The peer
> stores information necessary to choose which secret to use for which
> service.
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> If authentication is based on proof of possession of the private key
> corresponding to the public key contained within a certificate, the
> parties store the EAP method to be used and the trust anchors used to
> validate the certificates.  The EAP server also stores the peer's
> identity=20

[Joe] why is it necessary that the EAP server store the peer's identity
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> and the peer stores information
> necessary to choose which certificate to use for which service."
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1 [mailto:Madjid.Nakhjiri@motorola.com]=20
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:56 AM
> To: Bernard Aboba; eap@frascone.com
> Subject: RE: [eap] Proposed Resolution to Issue 323: AAA Key Cache
>=20
>=20
> If caching of MSK/EMSK is a MUST NOT for 4072 and 3579 and=20
> not for 3748,
> then why don't we state it so? And why do we make the caching=20
> a MUST NOT
> in a general case?
>=20
> Also, if the focus is document the existing behavior of the 3 RFCs
> below, rather than providing guidance for future uses of EAP keying,
> then the document should not state:
>=20
> "This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the
>    Internet community,..."
> On the front page.=20
> Because the way it is, it is not very accommodating for future uses of
> EAP keying framework. Having to remove the cache of a key after
> transport of say from AAA server to AAA client, will not allow the AAA
> server to use that key for further keying. A simple example is if you
> want to bootstrap a key for two agents, each of them behind=20
> one separate
> AAA client (take an AR and an HA in MIPv6 example),=20
>=20
> Agent 1<--AAA client1<------AAA server---->AAA client 2---->agent 2
> if you have RADIUS and move the key based on the request from one
> client, you have to delete it, then you cannot send it to the=20
> second AAA
> client.=20
>=20

[Joe] Why do you want to use the same key in both places?

> Is there anywhere in the AAA key management requirement that says AAA
> server cannot be trusted with the keys?
>=20

[Joe] If I understand the current text correctly it is stating that an
entity should not simultaneously cache and transport a key.  In general
this is good practice because it prevents reuse of a key, if you are
going to give someone else a key for a specific purpose you should not
hold onto it for another use.  While I don't  agree with a MUST NOT
cache transported keys, I would question why you would want to do this.
It seems that the current text allows one to cache a key and export keys
derived from it.  Perhaps the text should explicitly say so.=20

> Madjid
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernard Aboba [mailto:bernard_aboba@hotmail.com]=20
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:58 PM
> To: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; eap@frascone.com
> Subject: RE: [eap] Proposed Resolution to Issue 323: AAA Key Cache
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> >1)Why do we mean by "existing implementations" and why does=20
> it matter?
>=20
> The focus of  this work item is on describing the behavior of=20
> RFC 3748,
> 4072 and 3579 implementations.
>=20
> >This document should provide requirements going forward. Is "caching=20
> >MSK/EMSK" a MUST NOT, a SHOULD NOT, or something else?
>=20
> Caching of MSK/EMSK is a MUST NOT for RFC 4072 and 3579=20
> implementations.
>=20
> >2) The text requires deleting of a key (I am assuming this includes
> >AMSK) after transport to avoid key reuse.
>=20
> The text refers to any key that is transported, so yes it would also
> apply to an AMSK.  This follows from the security assumptions and AAA
> Key Management requirements.  Unless those requirements are met, this
> document will not be approved by the IESG.
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> To:
> 
> "The EAP server also stores the peer's identity as well as 
> other information
> associated with it. This information may be used to determine 
> whether access
> to some service should be granted. The peer
> stores information necessary to choose which secret to use for which
> service.
> 
> If authentication is based on proof of possession of the private key
> corresponding to the public key contained within a certificate, the
> parties store the EAP method to be used and the trust anchors used to
> validate the certificates.  The EAP server also stores the peer's
> identity 

[Joe] why is it necessary that the EAP server store the peer's identity
in this case? 

[BA] I guess to associate it with the authorizations.  The peer identity is
included in the certificate altSubjectName, so it isn't needed for other
reasons.  Is there a way to make that more clear?

> and the peer stores information
> necessary to choose which certificate to use for which service."
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[Joe] Why do you want to use the same key in both places?

[BA] I don't know why that would be necessary or desirable.  

[Joe] If I understand the current text correctly it is stating that an
entity should not simultaneously cache and transport a key.  In general
this is good practice because it prevents reuse of a key, if you are
going to give someone else a key for a specific purpose you should not
hold onto it for another use.  While I don't  agree with a MUST NOT
cache transported keys, I would question why you would want to do this.
It seems that the current text allows one to cache a key and export keys
derived from it.  Perhaps the text should explicitly say so. 

[BA] That sounds reasonable.  Do you have some text to suggest?
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IEEE 802.11r D1.0 (which has just passed its first letter ballot) is
available for inspection here:
http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/private/Draft_Standards/11r/P802.11r-D
1.0.pdf

If you'd like the archive password, please contact the chairs.   

As Kapil notes, 802.11r relies only on the MSK, and is based on existing EAP
and AAA RFCs, including RFC 3579, 3580, 3748 and 4072.

The 802.11r specification addresses a number of issues that came up in
802.11i and also are discussed in the EAP Key Management Framework document,
including: 

1. Key lifetime synchronization.  802.11r includes the key lifetime in the
4-way handshake, so that all parties can be aware of when the key hierarchy
expires. 

2. Key scope definition.  802.11r includes advertisement of the
NAS-Identifier (known as the R1KH-ID). 

-----Original Message-----
From: Sood, Kapil [mailto:kapil.sood@intel.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:43 AM
To: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; Renwei Li; Jari Arkko; Bernard Aboba
Cc: eap@frascone.com; aboba@internaut.com
Subject: RE: [eap] sending keys to authenticator?: 

11r does not have a 'trusted' man-in-the-middle.  11r still bases its
security model on that the AAA Key (MSK) gets delivered to the
authorized Authenticator only.  This is the authenticator through which
the STA performed the full EAP authentication.  This is called R0 Key
holder (R0KH) in 11r draft.  R0KH derives the PMK-R0 from the MSK with
domain specific parameters binding.

R0KH also derives multiple PMK-R1 keys (11r key hierarchy) from the
PMK-R0, for distribution to other authenticators (called R1 key holders)
within the same administrative domain (called mobility domain in 11r).
A local trusted party (say, MDC - Mobility Domain Controller) helps
establish mutual authentication between these authenticators (key
holders in 11r) and derives mutual Key Encryption Keys (KEKs).  These
KEKs will be used for secure delivery of PMK-R1 keys from R0KH to R1KHs.
AAA server may not have any knowledge of this key hierarchy (by design),
and distribution.

Best Regards,
 
Kapil.
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After announcing they cleaned $1,000,000.00 worth 
of debt off their books, investors start rally !!
**INVESTOR WATCH ISSUED FOR TUESDAY 17th, BIG MOVE COULD HAPPEN**

SYMBOL: MWIS.OB 
Friday Close: $0.165 
Friday Volume: 120,000 
Short Term: $0.50 - $0.75 
Long Term: $1.50 - $1.75 

With Volume up and the forward movement of this great company, 
we believe we will see HUGE increase in price tuesday. 
Get your buy in first thing and get what you can before it climbs. 

Be sure you read the release below and comments from the Diector 
of Syntek Capital, then, get on MWIS first thing Tuesday Morning! 


Past Venture Capital Investor Agreed to Waive Old Debt in Exchange 
for Restricted Shares 
Jan 9, 2006 8:14:00 AM 

m-Wise, Inc. (OTCBB:MWIS), a leading technology provider 
of mobile content solutions for operators, ASPs and content providers, 
today announced that venture capital firm Syntek Capital, A.G. 
has entered into a termination and release agreement converting 
$1 million of debt to m-Wise common stock. 

Under the terms of the agreement, m-Wise will issue a minimum 
of 5,561,994 shares of common stock in exchange for terminating m-Wise's 
3.5 year-old debt to Syntek Capital. The conversion of this debt 
was for restricted shares at market value with no discount relative 
to the 30 days average trading price of the common stock. 

Furthermore, m-Wise will issue Syntek a warrant of 5,263,158 shares 
of common stock at an exercise price of $0.19 per share, which can be 
exercised for up to a period of three years. 

Shay Ben-Asulin, chairman of m-Wise said, "We are very happy that
a strategic investor like Syntek Capital saw the opportunity 
in our current stock price and took a long-term position in m-Wise. 
The management of m-Wise believes that increasing our shareholder's equity, 
coupled with completing several business transactions shortly, 
will result in excellent return to Syntek and all our shareholders." 

Ronni Benatoff, director of Syntek Capital said, "We are pleased 
to begin the New Year confirming our support to m-Wise. Syntek Capital 
has a strategy to investing only in companies with solid core 
and sustainable businesses. We have long recognized the potential 
of m-Wise's technology and believe in its future growth potential." 


..Whatever you do WATCH MWIS...






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All:

Please do not contact me expecting the IEEE 802.11 private area
password; I am not authorized to hand that out.

The IEEE private area is open only to voters or nearly voters of IEEE
802.11, as per IEEE 802.11 policies and procedures.  Sorry.

On 1/16/06, Bernard Aboba <Bernard_Aboba@hotmail.com> wrote:
> IEEE 802.11r D1.0 (which has just passed its first letter ballot) is
> available for inspection here:
> http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/private/Draft_Standards/11r/P802.11=
r-D
> 1.0.pdf
>
> If you'd like the archive password, please contact the chairs.
>
> As Kapil notes, 802.11r relies only on the MSK, and is based on existing =
EAP
> and AAA RFCs, including RFC 3579, 3580, 3748 and 4072.
>
> The 802.11r specification addresses a number of issues that came up in
> 802.11i and also are discussed in the EAP Key Management Framework docume=
nt,
> including:
>
> 1. Key lifetime synchronization.  802.11r includes the key lifetime in th=
e
> 4-way handshake, so that all parties can be aware of when the key hierarc=
hy
> expires.
>
> 2. Key scope definition.  802.11r includes advertisement of the
> NAS-Identifier (known as the R1KH-ID).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sood, Kapil [mailto:kapil.sood@intel.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:43 AM
> To: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; Renwei Li; Jari Arkko; Bernard Aboba
> Cc: eap@frascone.com; aboba@internaut.com
> Subject: RE: [eap] sending keys to authenticator?:
>
> 11r does not have a 'trusted' man-in-the-middle.  11r still bases its
> security model on that the AAA Key (MSK) gets delivered to the
> authorized Authenticator only.  This is the authenticator through which
> the STA performed the full EAP authentication.  This is called R0 Key
> holder (R0KH) in 11r draft.  R0KH derives the PMK-R0 from the MSK with
> domain specific parameters binding.
>
> R0KH also derives multiple PMK-R1 keys (11r key hierarchy) from the
> PMK-R0, for distribution to other authenticators (called R1 key holders)
> within the same administrative domain (called mobility domain in 11r).
> A local trusted party (say, MDC - Mobility Domain Controller) helps
> establish mutual authentication between these authenticators (key
> holders in 11r) and derives mutual Key Encryption Keys (KEKs).  These
> KEKs will be used for secure delivery of PMK-R1 keys from R0KH to R1KHs.
> AAA server may not have any knowledge of this key hierarchy (by design),
> and distribution.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Kapil.
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On 1/11/2006 10:08 AM, David Mitton wrote:
>This is difficult to figure out with many features like this not 
>well documented in marketing datasheets, so I'd thought to toss it 
>to this list:
>
>If one desired to test 801.X _wired_ EAP support,
>what would be some of the most _inexpensive_ devices you could 
>obtain these days?
>
>(ie.  I don't want to buy a $nK rack device just for testing)
>
>You can reply off list, if you wish.
>
>Dave.

I only got a couple replys to this query,   I guess no one tests 
802.1x wired in small scale implementations?

The smallest (and cheapest) implementation I found so far is the
3Com IntelliJack NJ220   $219 (MSRP) $178 on Amazon.com
http://www.3com.com/products/en_US/detail.jsp?tab=features&pathtype=purchase&sku=WEBBNCNJ220SYS

If anyone has any experience with them or likes some other low end 
products, I'd like to hear about them.

Thanks,
Dave. 

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Reminton Ventures Inc. Climbs 18% from $0.89 to $1.05
on Tuesday. We Do Not See this slowing down, 
This is a Must Watch..

News again sparked interest in RMVN as today they had 
a huge price jump of 18% in the market. We are very excited 
as we believe we are about to see a repeat of the Jump from 
$0.51 to $2.10 we had a week ago. The day before the big 
climb they had a sharp jump in price following an annoucement 
of revenue increase. 

Seeing this type of price Jump today, Wednesday could go 
through the roof again. Read the release below and set your buy 
for first thing when the market opens Wednesday morning. 

Remington Ventures Inc. 
Symbol: RMVN.PK
Thursday Close: $0.63 
Friday Close: $0.89
Tuesday Close: $1.05
Short Term: $2.25 Lifted now to $2.75 
Status: S t r o n g   B u y 

Read the news below: 

This week several market ananysist groups posted profiles 
concerning RMVN's new technology and solid executive team 
running this inovative company. 

Market exposure on this stock combined with recent news releases 
on the capabilites of this amazing technology will certainly bring 
the stock to new levels. Just read the brief explanation of what 
this company has developed. 


About RMVN: 

Remington Ventures Incorporated (OTCPK: RMVN), is a software company 
specializing in automated currency trading systems and artificial 
neural networks for the currency markets. 

The Currency market, also referred to as the Forex or FX market 
is the largest financial market in the world, with a daily average 
turnover of approximately $1.5 trillion. 

RMVN is continuously improving its system to isolate the most 
predictable and lucrative instrument(s) to trade. Their system's neural 
network input database can be designed so that the neural net actually 
chooses the instrument to trade as well as the trade parameters. 

For those of you who missed the huge jump a week ago, dont miss it 
twice, those of you who got in on the climb, get ready to make 
some more money! 

Good Trading, and see you Wednesday! 
Good Luck and Trade at the Top !!!





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According to the charter of the WG, we have
two work items left to complete: the keying
framework and the network selection problem
definition document. The former has been in
WGLC, and we are currently attempting to
come to a final conclusion on how the raised
issues are solved. We just started a WGLC on
the problem definition document.

We would REALLY like to close these the remaining
items and not leave them hanging around any
longer. We ask for everyone's help in bringing
these tasks to completion; please post opinions
about how to resolve the remaining open issues
in the keying framework, and please review the
other document.

But we are actually quite close to making this
happen. So here's our plan: we are currently
hoping that we have closed these documents
and given them to our AD and the IESG for
review before March. If this happens, we will
NOT reserve a slot for EAP WG in IETF-64,
particularly when there will be other possibilities
for discussion in related topics, such as EMU
and possibly some of the handover keying
BOFs.

Should we for some reason not complete
everything before IETF-64, however, we will
devote the meeting only for the resolution of
the remaining issues.

After IETF-64, we do not expect EAP WG to
meet, and will consider closing the WG down
later.

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In IETF-64, we had a presentation of the EAP network
selection problem document. This presentation was
followed by a discussion of whether some larger
effort (e.g. a BOF) is needed in this area in the IETF.
There was also a discussion of whether the topic
is appropriate for EAP WG to work on. We have
also received a liason statement on the network
selection topic after IETF-64 from IEEE 802.11u.

Originally, the network selection problem definition
document grew out of the need to understand
what the IETF should do for the request that
we received from 3GPP to publish draft-adrangi.
We did publish it later, but a lot of the analysis
of what the problem really is and what limitations
mechanisms such as draft-adrangi have went into
the network selection document.

The chairs and AD have now discussed what to do.
We  have noted that EAP WG's charter specifically
requires us to produce this problem definition
document -- it was added to the charter at the
time that we needed the analysis. Changing
this would require a recharterting, and IESG
discussion of the new charter. The chairs also
believe that the IETF in fact needs an official
document that contains the analysis, because
then it can be communicated and referred to.

As a result, the one thing that we can do
under the current charter is to complete
the document. Therefore, we are starting
WGLC on this document. (See separate
e-mail.) Please post also any comments relating
the scope of the document during the last
call.

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Hi Joe, =20

-----Original Message-----
From: Salowey, Joe [mailto:jsalowey@cisco.com]=20
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Subject: RE: [eap] Proposed Resolution to Issue 323: AAA Key Cache
> Also, if the focus is document the existing behavior of the 3 RFCs=20
> below, rather than providing guidance for future uses of EAP keying,=20
> then the document should not state:
>=20
> "This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the
>    Internet community,..."
> On the front page.=20
> Because the way it is, it is not very accommodating for future uses of

> EAP keying framework. Having to remove the cache of a key after=20
> transport of say from AAA server to AAA client, will not allow the AAA

> server to use that key for further keying. A simple example is if you=20
> want to bootstrap a key for two agents, each of them behind one=20
> separate AAA client (take an AR and an HA in MIPv6 example),
>=20
> Agent 1<--AAA client1<------AAA server---->AAA client 2---->agent 2 if

> you have RADIUS and move the key based on the request from one client,

> you have to delete it, then you cannot send it to the second AAA=20
> client.
>=20

[Joe] Why do you want to use the same key in both places?

Madjid>>Think the Proxy Mobile IP example. We need a shared key between
the proxy mobile node, PMN (an entity within the network, not the peer)
and home agent, HA. So that the PMN can send authenticated messages to
the HA and vice versa.

> Is there anywhere in the AAA key management requirement that says AAA
> server cannot be trusted with the keys?
>=20

[Joe] If I understand the current text correctly it is stating that an
entity should not simultaneously cache and transport a key.  In general
this is good practice because it prevents reuse of a key, if you are
going to give someone else a key for a specific purpose you should not
hold onto it for another use.  While I don't  agree with a MUST NOT
cache transported keys, I would question why you would want to do this.
It seems that the current text allows one to cache a key and export keys
derived from it.  Perhaps the text should explicitly say so.=20

Madjid>> Well this is an example why you do need to hold on to it (not
for another use however). I think these strict requirements should be
put to test for each specific usage scenario.

> Madjid
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernard Aboba [mailto:bernard_aboba@hotmail.com]=20
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:58 PM
> To: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; eap@frascone.com
> Subject: RE: [eap] Proposed Resolution to Issue 323: AAA Key Cache
>=20
> >1)Why do we mean by "existing implementations" and why does=20
> it matter?
>=20
> The focus of  this work item is on describing the behavior of=20
> RFC 3748,
> 4072 and 3579 implementations.
>=20
> >This document should provide requirements going forward. Is "caching=20
> >MSK/EMSK" a MUST NOT, a SHOULD NOT, or something else?
>=20
> Caching of MSK/EMSK is a MUST NOT for RFC 4072 and 3579=20
> implementations.
>=20
> >2) The text requires deleting of a key (I am assuming this includes
> >AMSK) after transport to avoid key reuse.
>=20
> The text refers to any key that is transported, so yes it would also
> apply to an AMSK.  This follows from the security assumptions and AAA
> Key Management requirements.  Unless those requirements are met, this
> document will not be approved by the IESG.
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Hi Kapil,

Thanks for the explanation. I actually happened to read D0.09 before
people sent me D1.0. Yes, I agree with your assessments below. However
two points:

1) Reading D0.09 I was not sure if the authenticator had to be in R0KH.
At least D0.09 was fuzzy on whether the authenticator is in R0KH or
R1KH. It seems that they had made that clear in D1.0. so I give up on
802.11r example. So based on what you are saying R0KH is an
authenticator and not "a trusted man-in-the middle").=20

2) The question for the EAP group, is: is it absolutely necessary to
send the MSK to the authenticator. I think in RFC 3748 that was an
optional thing. Here we follow on that and make it mandatory? We are
also saying authenticator and AAA client has the same identifier
(logically same) because MSK is carried over AAA protocol (AAA req.) and
because EAP needs to stay mode independent (EAP req.). I see this as a
restriction, why can't we allow MSK to go a key holder that is simply a
AAA client.
If during the initial authentication, the authenticator/ AAA client that
interacts with the peer indicates the ID of this key holder as an entity
that covers that whole domain (I believe it is called mobility domain in
802.11r), then sure we have a trusted man-in-the middle. Ok, 11r does
not have that because R0KH is the authenticator, but

Now the question is whether 802.11r handles R0KH handovers?

Thanks,

Madjid

-----Original Message-----
From: Sood, Kapil [mailto:kapil.sood@intel.com]=20
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:43 AM
To: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; Renwei Li; Jari Arkko; Bernard Aboba
Cc: eap@frascone.com; aboba@internaut.com
Subject: RE: [eap] sending keys to authenticator?: was: Issue: AAA
KeyCaching effectively prohibited?

11r does not have a 'trusted' man-in-the-middle.  11r still bases its
security model on that the AAA Key (MSK) gets delivered to the
authorized Authenticator only.  This is the authenticator through which
the STA performed the full EAP authentication.  This is called R0 Key
holder (R0KH) in 11r draft.  R0KH derives the PMK-R0 from the MSK with
domain specific parameters binding.

R0KH also derives multiple PMK-R1 keys (11r key hierarchy) from the
PMK-R0, for distribution to other authenticators (called R1 key holders)
within the same administrative domain (called mobility domain in 11r).
A local trusted party (say, MDC - Mobility Domain Controller) helps
establish mutual authentication between these authenticators (key
holders in 11r) and derives mutual Key Encryption Keys (KEKs).  These
KEKs will be used for secure delivery of PMK-R1 keys from R0KH to R1KHs.
AAA server may not have any knowledge of this key hierarchy (by design),
and distribution.

Best Regards,
=20
Kapil.
503.264.3759
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1 [mailto:Madjid.Nakhjiri@motorola.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:11 PM
> To: Renwei Li; Jari Arkko; Bernard Aboba
> Cc: eap@frascone.com; aboba@internaut.com
> Subject: RE: [eap] sending keys to authenticator?: was: Issue: AAA
KeyCaching effectively
> prohibited?
>=20
> Not really sure what you mean by creating a scenario.  This is a real=20
> life deployment. 11r has defined key holders.
> And what is wrong with trusted man in the middles?
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Renwei Li [mailto:renwei@anqsystems.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:00 PM
> To: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; Jari Arkko; Bernard Aboba
> Cc: eap@frascone.com; aboba@internaut.com
> Subject: Re: [eap] sending keys to authenticator?: was: Issue: AAA Key

> Caching effectively prohibited?
>=20
> If we do so, we are effectively creating a scenario=20
> (Authenticated-)Man-in-the-Middle? Sounds familiar?
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Renwei
>=20
>=20
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1 [mailto:Madjid.Nakhjiri@motorola.com]
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 07:13 PM
> >To: 'Jari Arkko', 'Bernard Aboba'
> >Cc: eap@frascone.com, aboba@internaut.com
> >Subject: RE: [eap] sending keys to authenticator?: was: Issue: AAA
Key
> Caching	effectively prohibited?
> >
> >Question: Does EAP keying allow sending keys to an entity other than=20
> >the initial authenticator, e.g. another AAA client or a key holder?
> >Or Does the EAP keying framework that prohibits keys being sent to an

> >entity other than the initial authenticator?
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Madjid
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jari Arkko [mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net]
> >Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 6:34 PM
> >To: Bernard Aboba
> >Cc: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; aboba@internaut.com; eap@frascone.com
> >Subject: Re: [eap] RE: Issue: AAA Key Caching effectively prohibited?
> >
> >Bernard Aboba wrote:
> >
> >> Under Joe's proposal, an AMSK created during the original exchange=20
> >> can
> >
> >> be cached in the AAA server.  One way that "Key Request" could work

> >> would be for the EAP peer to request that a key be sent to the new=20
> >> authenticator.  It would make this request by contacting the new=20
> >> authenticator, which would generate a AAA request. The EAP peer
would
>=20
> >> mutually authenticate to the AAA server, demonstrate possession of=20
> >> the
> >
> >> cached AMSK, and then request that a key derived from that AMSK be
> >> sent to the new EAP authenticator.   Via the AAA request the new
EAP
> >> authenticator would mutually authenticate to the AAA Server.
> >>
> >> So we have:
> >>
> >> a. Authentication of parties:  EAP peer- AAA server;  EAP=20
> >> authenticator - EAP server;  EAP peer-authenticator (through a=20
> >> subsequent SAP exchange)
> >>
> >> b. Freshness.  Presumably the EAP peer - AAA server exchange
includes
>=20
> >> nonces exchanged by both parties to ensure freshness of the derived

> >> keys.  Also the SAP exchange would include a nonce exchange.
> >>
> >> c. "Channel binding":  The EAP peer requests that a key be sent via

> >> the entity that it wants the key sent to.  The new authenticator=20
> >> identifies itself to the AAA server, allowing the EAP peer and AAA=20
> >> server to verify that it is telling the same information to both
the
> >> AAA server and EAP peer.
> >
> >I like this. What do we need to make this possible in the keying=20
> >framework?
> >
> >- Say EMSK is kept in method layer
> >
> >- Possibly say that EMSK can be deleted after AAA has made
> >  its declaration of what application keys its going to need
> >  (assuming we always know what applications are authorized
> >  a priori - but I think that's a good assumption).
> >
> >- Clarify the caching and parent death rules for AMSks.
> >
> >--Jari
> >
> >
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=20

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1 [mailto:Madjid.Nakhjiri@motorola.com]=20
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:51 AM
> To: Salowey, Joe; Bernard Aboba; eap@frascone.com
> Subject: RE: [eap] Proposed Resolution to Issue 323: AAA Key Cache
>=20
> Hi Joe, =20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Salowey, Joe [mailto:jsalowey@cisco.com]=20
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:22 PM
> To: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; Bernard Aboba; eap@frascone.com
> Subject: RE: [eap] Proposed Resolution to Issue 323: AAA Key Cache
> > Also, if the focus is document the existing behavior of the 3 RFCs=20
> > below, rather than providing guidance for future uses of=20
> EAP keying,=20
> > then the document should not state:
> >=20
> > "This document specifies an Internet standards track=20
> protocol for the
> >    Internet community,..."
> > On the front page.=20
> > Because the way it is, it is not very accommodating for=20
> future uses of
>=20
> > EAP keying framework. Having to remove the cache of a key after=20
> > transport of say from AAA server to AAA client, will not=20
> allow the AAA
>=20
> > server to use that key for further keying. A simple example=20
> is if you=20
> > want to bootstrap a key for two agents, each of them behind one=20
> > separate AAA client (take an AR and an HA in MIPv6 example),
> >=20
> > Agent 1<--AAA client1<------AAA server---->AAA client=20
> 2---->agent 2 if
>=20
> > you have RADIUS and move the key based on the request from=20
> one client,
>=20
> > you have to delete it, then you cannot send it to the second AAA=20
> > client.
> >=20
>=20
> [Joe] Why do you want to use the same key in both places?
>=20
> Madjid>>Think the Proxy Mobile IP example. We need a shared=20
> key between
> the proxy mobile node, PMN (an entity within the network, not=20
> the peer)
> and home agent, HA. So that the PMN can send authenticated messages to
> the HA and vice versa.
>=20

[Joe] Ok, it seems this key would be different than the mobile nodes key
and that the PMNs don't all ned to share the same key.=20

> > Is there anywhere in the AAA key management requirement=20
> that says AAA
> > server cannot be trusted with the keys?
> >=20
>=20
> [Joe] If I understand the current text correctly it is stating that an
> entity should not simultaneously cache and transport a key. =20
> In general
> this is good practice because it prevents reuse of a key, if you are
> going to give someone else a key for a specific purpose you should not
> hold onto it for another use.  While I don't  agree with a MUST NOT
> cache transported keys, I would question why you would want=20
> to do this.
> It seems that the current text allows one to cache a key and=20
> export keys
> derived from it.  Perhaps the text should explicitly say so.=20
>=20
> Madjid>> Well this is an example why you do need to hold on to it (not
> for another use however). I think these strict requirements should be
> put to test for each specific usage scenario.
>=20
[Joe] yes, you need to hold onto the key, but instead of transporting
the "cached" key you transport keys derived from the cached key.  Does
this meet the requirements of your usage scenario? =20



> > Madjid
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bernard Aboba [mailto:bernard_aboba@hotmail.com]=20
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:58 PM
> > To: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; eap@frascone.com
> > Subject: RE: [eap] Proposed Resolution to Issue 323: AAA Key Cache
> >=20
> > >1)Why do we mean by "existing implementations" and why does=20
> > it matter?
> >=20
> > The focus of  this work item is on describing the behavior of=20
> > RFC 3748,
> > 4072 and 3579 implementations.
> >=20
> > >This document should provide requirements going forward.=20
> Is "caching=20
> > >MSK/EMSK" a MUST NOT, a SHOULD NOT, or something else?
> >=20
> > Caching of MSK/EMSK is a MUST NOT for RFC 4072 and 3579=20
> > implementations.
> >=20
> > >2) The text requires deleting of a key (I am assuming this includes
> > >AMSK) after transport to avoid key reuse.
> >=20
> > The text refers to any key that is transported, so yes it would also
> > apply to an AMSK.  This follows from the security=20
> assumptions and AAA
> > Key Management requirements.  Unless those requirements are=20
> met, this
> > document will not be approved by the IESG.
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"Now the question is whether 802.11r handles R0KH handovers?"

Strictly speaking, 802.11r will require the transmission of keying
material from an R0KH to an R1KH.  Obviously, there are some security
requirements on this transmission, and we are putting there
requirements into the next version of the draft.

Actually specifying/ddeveloping such a handover mechanism is outside
the scope of  IEEE 802.11 TGr; we can only touch PHY and MAC.=20
However, there is an engineerin team that has been formed to develop
such a mechanism, with the goal of creating an RFC.

On 1/18/06, Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1 <Madjid.Nakhjiri@motorola.com> wrote:
> Hi Kapil,
>
> Thanks for the explanation. I actually happened to read D0.09 before
> people sent me D1.0. Yes, I agree with your assessments below. However
> two points:
>
> 1) Reading D0.09 I was not sure if the authenticator had to be in R0KH.
> At least D0.09 was fuzzy on whether the authenticator is in R0KH or
> R1KH. It seems that they had made that clear in D1.0. so I give up on
> 802.11r example. So based on what you are saying R0KH is an
> authenticator and not "a trusted man-in-the middle").
>
> 2) The question for the EAP group, is: is it absolutely necessary to
> send the MSK to the authenticator. I think in RFC 3748 that was an
> optional thing. Here we follow on that and make it mandatory? We are
> also saying authenticator and AAA client has the same identifier
> (logically same) because MSK is carried over AAA protocol (AAA req.) and
> because EAP needs to stay mode independent (EAP req.). I see this as a
> restriction, why can't we allow MSK to go a key holder that is simply a
> AAA client.
> If during the initial authentication, the authenticator/ AAA client that
> interacts with the peer indicates the ID of this key holder as an entity
> that covers that whole domain (I believe it is called mobility domain in
> 802.11r), then sure we have a trusted man-in-the middle. Ok, 11r does
> not have that because R0KH is the authenticator, but
>
> Now the question is whether 802.11r handles R0KH handovers?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Madjid
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sood, Kapil [mailto:kapil.sood@intel.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:43 AM
> To: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; Renwei Li; Jari Arkko; Bernard Aboba
> Cc: eap@frascone.com; aboba@internaut.com
> Subject: RE: [eap] sending keys to authenticator?: was: Issue: AAA
> KeyCaching effectively prohibited?
>
> 11r does not have a 'trusted' man-in-the-middle.  11r still bases its
> security model on that the AAA Key (MSK) gets delivered to the
> authorized Authenticator only.  This is the authenticator through which
> the STA performed the full EAP authentication.  This is called R0 Key
> holder (R0KH) in 11r draft.  R0KH derives the PMK-R0 from the MSK with
> domain specific parameters binding.
>
> R0KH also derives multiple PMK-R1 keys (11r key hierarchy) from the
> PMK-R0, for distribution to other authenticators (called R1 key holders)
> within the same administrative domain (called mobility domain in 11r).
> A local trusted party (say, MDC - Mobility Domain Controller) helps
> establish mutual authentication between these authenticators (key
> holders in 11r) and derives mutual Key Encryption Keys (KEKs).  These
> KEKs will be used for secure delivery of PMK-R1 keys from R0KH to R1KHs.
> AAA server may not have any knowledge of this key hierarchy (by design),
> and distribution.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Kapil.
> 503.264.3759
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1 [mailto:Madjid.Nakhjiri@motorola.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:11 PM
> > To: Renwei Li; Jari Arkko; Bernard Aboba
> > Cc: eap@frascone.com; aboba@internaut.com
> > Subject: RE: [eap] sending keys to authenticator?: was: Issue: AAA
> KeyCaching effectively
> > prohibited?
> >
> > Not really sure what you mean by creating a scenario.  This is a real
> > life deployment. 11r has defined key holders.
> > And what is wrong with trusted man in the middles?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Renwei Li [mailto:renwei@anqsystems.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:00 PM
> > To: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; Jari Arkko; Bernard Aboba
> > Cc: eap@frascone.com; aboba@internaut.com
> > Subject: Re: [eap] sending keys to authenticator?: was: Issue: AAA Key
>
> > Caching effectively prohibited?
> >
> > If we do so, we are effectively creating a scenario
> > (Authenticated-)Man-in-the-Middle? Sounds familiar?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Renwei
> >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1 [mailto:Madjid.Nakhjiri@motorola.com]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 07:13 PM
> > >To: 'Jari Arkko', 'Bernard Aboba'
> > >Cc: eap@frascone.com, aboba@internaut.com
> > >Subject: RE: [eap] sending keys to authenticator?: was: Issue: AAA
> Key
> > Caching       effectively prohibited?
> > >
> > >Question: Does EAP keying allow sending keys to an entity other than
> > >the initial authenticator, e.g. another AAA client or a key holder?
> > >Or Does the EAP keying framework that prohibits keys being sent to an
>
> > >entity other than the initial authenticator?
> > >
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Madjid
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Jari Arkko [mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net]
> > >Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 6:34 PM
> > >To: Bernard Aboba
> > >Cc: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; aboba@internaut.com; eap@frascone.com
> > >Subject: Re: [eap] RE: Issue: AAA Key Caching effectively prohibited?
> > >
> > >Bernard Aboba wrote:
> > >
> > >> Under Joe's proposal, an AMSK created during the original exchange
> > >> can
> > >
> > >> be cached in the AAA server.  One way that "Key Request" could work
>
> > >> would be for the EAP peer to request that a key be sent to the new
> > >> authenticator.  It would make this request by contacting the new
> > >> authenticator, which would generate a AAA request. The EAP peer
> would
> >
> > >> mutually authenticate to the AAA server, demonstrate possession of
> > >> the
> > >
> > >> cached AMSK, and then request that a key derived from that AMSK be
> > >> sent to the new EAP authenticator.   Via the AAA request the new
> EAP
> > >> authenticator would mutually authenticate to the AAA Server.
> > >>
> > >> So we have:
> > >>
> > >> a. Authentication of parties:  EAP peer- AAA server;  EAP
> > >> authenticator - EAP server;  EAP peer-authenticator (through a
> > >> subsequent SAP exchange)
> > >>
> > >> b. Freshness.  Presumably the EAP peer - AAA server exchange
> includes
> >
> > >> nonces exchanged by both parties to ensure freshness of the derived
>
> > >> keys.  Also the SAP exchange would include a nonce exchange.
> > >>
> > >> c. "Channel binding":  The EAP peer requests that a key be sent via
>
> > >> the entity that it wants the key sent to.  The new authenticator
> > >> identifies itself to the AAA server, allowing the EAP peer and AAA
> > >> server to verify that it is telling the same information to both
> the
> > >> AAA server and EAP peer.
> > >
> > >I like this. What do we need to make this possible in the keying
> > >framework?
> > >
> > >- Say EMSK is kept in method layer
> > >
> > >- Possibly say that EMSK can be deleted after AAA has made
> > >  its declaration of what application keys its going to need
> > >  (assuming we always know what applications are authorized
> > >  a priori - but I think that's a good assumption).
> > >
> > >- Clarify the caching and parent death rules for AMSks.
> > >
> > >--Jari
> > >
> > >
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CWTD Price and Volume Climbs All Week. Todays Annoucement Will Push It Farther


Company: China World Trade Corporation
Symbol: CWTD
Wed Close: $1.59
Thurs High: $1.76
Short Term: $2.25 - $2.50
Interest: Hot News Release
Indicator: S T R O N G   B U Y

CWTD, has had several recent annoucements and the stock has been pushing up steadly 
bring our members a constant healthy return on there investment. Tomorrow will be 
no different.

As we have informed you over the last week, CWTD offers a number of diverse 
services for corporations of all sizes and specificly those in Asia who are moving 
into the international market (go to the website read about them as there are to many 
cover in this release). This fact makes todays annoucement so exciting.

Today CWTD annouced they had great success in the recent "World Financial Trade Forum". 
This kind of event exposes them to a larger client base and helps them expand their 
already large client base.

Tuesday this week we saw a 23 Cent jump in price and a 176% increase in Heavy Trading 
after the annoucment of the new CEO. With this annoucement we expect the same kind of 
Jump come Friday morning, and an end of day frenzy before the market closes for the 
weekend so get in on it early.

Just read up on there release today.

China World Trade Corporation Organizes The World Trade Financial Forum with Xinhua 
PR Newswire - Jan 19, 2006

TIANHE, GUANGZHOU, China, Jan. 19 /Xinhua-PRNewswire/ -- China World Trade Corporation 
(OTC Bulletin Board: CWTD) ("CWTD") announced today the successful completion of the 
World Trade Financial Forum, held on December 18, 2005 at Beijing's Landmark Tower 
building in China.

"We are extremely pleased with the large number of participants at the World Trade 
Financial Forum," said Mr. William Tsang, Chairman of CWTD. "The conference was 
well-attended and included many small-and-medium-sized enterprises seeking to access 
the international capital markets. Many of the attendees gave positive feedback about 
the high quality of the presenting speakers and the invaluable information provided. 
This was yet another event that further demonstrates the execution of our vision to 
bridge the Chinese business community and the international markets. One of our main 
strategic initiatives will be to continue organize such high profile events to benefit 
the business community while at the same time further branding CWTD as a comprehensive 
platform in providing business value added services."

The Forum was jointly held by CWTD and Xinhua PR Newswire. Guest keynote speakers 
included well-respected professionals from varied fields such as legal, accounting 
and financial public relations all jointly focused on addressing the opportunities 
and challenges for listed Chinese companies seeking to raise funds and becoming a 
publicly listed company in the U.S. Statistics published on one of the leading Chinese 
internet portals revealed the growing needs of Chinese enterprises seeking initial 
public offerings in the various capital markets around the world. In 2004, there were 
approximately 84 initial public offerings of Chinese companies, representing a 75% 
increase over 2003.

Highlights of the Forum include keynote presentation from Mr. Yujie Chen, Director of 
Xinhua PR Newswire, Mr. Arnold Tinter, Accountant from Tinter Scheifley Tang, LLP and 
Mr. Stephen E. Rounds from the Law Office of Stephen E Rounds.

Members,

This show, hosted by CWTD, was focused on exactly the services CWTD offers. You can 
imagine what a huge increase of clientelle this successful show will generate.

Get in on e CWTD and have a great trading day.







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>"Now the question is whether 802.11r handles R0KH handovers?"
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>Strictly speaking, 802.11r will require the transmission of keying
>material from an R0KH to an R1KH.  Obviously, there are some security
>requirements on this transmission, and we are putting there
>requirements into the next version of the draft.

IEEE 802.11rD1.0 supports a variety of handover techniques. 

These include "over the air" and "over the DS" modes.  The "over the DS"
mode allows the PTK to be established over the DS, and also enables the
PMK/PTK lifetime to be established as well as synchronization of key scope,
so it is more complete than IEEE 802.11i pre-authentication.  

As I understand it, a STA roaming within the Mobility Domain can expect
"fast BSS transition" services to be operative, but the quality of those
services may vary.  For example, if the handover is being done between TAPs
utilizing the same R1KH-ID (NAS-ID), then the PMK-R1 is likely to be
available on the TAP and handover is likely to be very fast. 

If a transition is within the MD but between different R1KH-IDs (but the
same R0KH-ID) then it is possible that the PMK-R1 has already been "pushed"
so that handover will be very fast.  However, it is also possible that the
PMK-R1 will need to be "pulled" in which case extra delays will result.

If a transition is within the MD but between different R0KH-IDs, then EAP
authentication will be needed.  However, I don't think this case really
makes much sense since a Mobility Domain is by definition the set of TAPs
within which handover is possible without EAP authentication.  That would
lead me to think that all TAPs within an MD should have the same R0KH-ID.
But perhaps this is a misunderstanding/wishfull thinking.  I am sure that
Clint will correct any portion of the above that is
mistaken/misguided/confused/insane.  
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--Jari

IESG Secretary wrote:

>A new IETF working group has been formed in the Security Area. For additional
>information, please contact the Area Directors or the WG Chairs.
>
>+++
>
>EAP Method Update (emu)
>========================
>
>Current Status: Active Working Group
>
>Chairs:
>Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net>
>Joe Salowey <jsalowey@cisco.com>
>
>Security Area Director(s):
>Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
>Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu>
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>Security Area Advisor:
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>Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/emu/current/index.html
>
>
>Description of Working Group:
>
>The Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP) [RFC 3748] is a network
>access authentication framework used in the PPP, 802.11, 802.16, VPN,
>PANA, and in some functions in 3G networks. EAP itself is a simple
>protocol and actual authentication happens in EAP methods.
>
>Over 40 different EAP methods exist. Most of this methods are
>proprietary methods and only a few methods are documented in RFCs. The
>lack of documented, open specifications is a deployment and
>interoperability problem. In addition, none of the EAP methods in the
>standards track implement features such as key derivation that are
>required for many modern applications. This poses a problem for, among
>other things, the selection of a mandatory to implement EAP method in
>new network access technologies. For example, no standards track
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>This group is chartered to work on the following types of mechanisms to
>meet RFC 3748 and RFC 4017 requirements:
>
>- An update to RFC 2716 to bring EAP-TLS into standards track, clarify
>specification, interoperability, and implementation issues gathered over
>the years, and update the document to meet the requirements of RFC 3748,
>RFC 4017, and EAP keying framework documents. Backwards compatibility with 
>RFC 2716 is a requirement.
>
>- Enhanced functionality to enable a TLS-based EAP method to support
>authentication methods beyond certificates, channel bindings and other
>optional functions required in RFC 4017. So as to enable RFC 2716bis to
>focus solely on clarifications to the existing protocol, this effort
>will be handled in a separate document. Depending on an analysis of the
>behavior of existing implementations, it is possible that this effort
>may be able to use the existing EAP-TLS type code, or it may need to be
>handled via assignment of a new EAP Type Code.
>
>- A mechanism based on strong shared secrets that meets RFC 3748 and RFC
>4017 requirements. This mechanism should strive to be simple and
>compact for implementation in resource constrained environments.
>
>- A mechanism meeting RFC 3748 and RFC 4017 requirements that makes use
>of existing password databases such as AAA databases. The implementation
>should strive to be usable in resource constrained environments.
>
>In order to facilitate the development of the shared secret and password
>based methods design teams will be formed. The design teams should take
>into consideration existing methods including mechanisms based on
>EAP-TLS such as TLS-PSK.
>
>Milestones:
>Feb 2006 Form design team to work on strong shared secret mechanism
>Mar 2006 Submit 2716bis I-D
>Jun 2006 Submit first draft of enhanced EAP-TLS I-D
>Jul 2006 Form password based mechanism design team
>Jul 2006 Submit first draft of shared secret mechanism I-D
>Aug 2006 Submit 2716bis draft to IESG for Proposed Standard
>Nov 2006 Submit 2716bis draft to IESG for draft standard
>Dec 2006 Submit first draft password based method I-D
>Jan 2007 Submit Strong Shared Secret Mechanism to IESG
>Jan 2007 Submit enhanced EAP-TLS to IESG
>Aug 2007 Submit password Based Mechanism to IESG
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The current draft of IEEE 802.11r allows the use of multiple R0KH,
each of which can (and should!) have a different R0KH-ID.

I can think of at least one architecture where this might be
desirable: LWAPP style arcitecture where each switch had it's own
R0KH.

On 1/20/06, Bernard Aboba <Bernard_Aboba@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >"Now the question is whether 802.11r handles R0KH handovers?"
> >
> >Strictly speaking, 802.11r will require the transmission of keying
> >material from an R0KH to an R1KH.  Obviously, there are some security
> >requirements on this transmission, and we are putting there
> >requirements into the next version of the draft.
>
> IEEE 802.11rD1.0 supports a variety of handover techniques.
>
> These include "over the air" and "over the DS" modes.  The "over the DS"
> mode allows the PTK to be established over the DS, and also enables the
> PMK/PTK lifetime to be established as well as synchronization of key scop=
e,
> so it is more complete than IEEE 802.11i pre-authentication.
>
> As I understand it, a STA roaming within the Mobility Domain can expect
> "fast BSS transition" services to be operative, but the quality of those
> services may vary.  For example, if the handover is being done between TA=
Ps
> utilizing the same R1KH-ID (NAS-ID), then the PMK-R1 is likely to be
> available on the TAP and handover is likely to be very fast.
>
> If a transition is within the MD but between different R1KH-IDs (but the
> same R0KH-ID) then it is possible that the PMK-R1 has already been "pushe=
d"
> so that handover will be very fast.  However, it is also possible that th=
e
> PMK-R1 will need to be "pulled" in which case extra delays will result.
>
> If a transition is within the MD but between different R0KH-IDs, then EAP
> authentication will be needed.  However, I don't think this case really
> makes much sense since a Mobility Domain is by definition the set of TAPs
> within which handover is possible without EAP authentication.  That would
> lead me to think that all TAPs within an MD should have the same R0KH-ID.
> But perhaps this is a misunderstanding/wishfull thinking.  I am sure that
> Clint will correct any portion of the above that is
> mistaken/misguided/confused/insane.
>


--
Clint (JOATMON) Chaplin
Wireless Security Technologist
Wireless Standards Manager
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Question:   can you supply text for the additional material on "Identifie=
r=20
attributes"?

How about the following:

"The combination of the Peer-ID and Server-ID may uniquely specify the
endpoints of the EAP method exchange when they are provided."



Issue 326: Identifiers
Submitter name: Joe Salowey
Submitter email address: jsalowey@cisco.com
Date Submitted: December 1, 2005
Reference:
Document: Keying-08
Comment type: T
Priority: 1
Section: 1
Rationale/Explanation of issue:

"  EAP methods also MAY export method-specific peer and server
   identifiers (peer-ID and server-ID), a method-specific EAP
   conversation identifier known as the Method-ID, and the lifetime of
   the exported keys, known the Key-Lifetime.   EAP methods MAY also
   support the import and export of Channel Bindings.  New EAP method
   specifications MUST define the Peer-ID, Server-ID and Method-ID. The
   combination of the Peer-ID and Server-ID uniquely specifies the
   endpoints of the EAP method exchange."

It seems that additional data associated with the identity should be
exported to satisfy section 1.3.  Suggestion is to add this and call
them identity attributes.

In this paragraph it states that the "Peer-ID and Server-ID uniquely
specifies the=A0=A0endpoints of the EAP method exchange", however further=
 down=20
it states
that these quantities may be null.  This is contradictory.  Suggested
modification to above text:

"The combination of the Peer-ID and Server-ID may uniquely specify the
endpoints of the EAP method exchange if the method supports unique IDs."


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The text of Issue 327 is enclosed below.

The intent of Section 2.3 is to review use of EAP within documents that have 
already been published.   PANA is still under review, and it appears that 
there are a number of issues that still need to be ironed out.  Therefore, 
I'd suggest that we omit discussion of PANA in this document.

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Issue 327: PANA and EAP Keying Framework
Submitter name: Yoshihro Ohba
Submitter email address: yohba@tari.toshiba.com
Date Submitted: January 9, 2006
Reference: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/eap/msg03860.html
Document: Keying-08
Comment type: T
Priority: 1
Section: 2.3
Rationale/Explanation of issue:
It would be useful to add some
description on how PANA handle the caching of EAP keying material and
the generation of transient session keys.

Requested change:

Add the following description in Section 2.3:

"PANA

     PANA [I-D.ietf-pana-pana] supports caching of the MSK, but not
     the EMSK, IV, Session-ID, Peer-ID or Server-ID.  In the PANA
     model [I-D.ietf-pana-framework], TSKs are generated using a
     Secure Association Protocol between the peer and and
     authenticator port (which is referred to as an Enforcement
     Point), where both link-layer specific key exchange protocols and
     IKE can be used as the Secure Association Protocol depending on
     whether link-layer ciphering or IPsec is used between the peer
     and the authenticator port.  The key scope and lifetime of the
     TSKs are communicated from the authenticator to the peer.  The
     key scope is specified as a list of device identifiers of the
     Enforcement Points.  Depending on the Secure Association
     Protocol in use, TSK rekey is possible without EAP
     re-authentication."


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It sounds like we have agreed to further develop the text on channel 
bindings.  Can someone supply text?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Issue 325: Channel Bindings
Submitter name: Joe Salowey
Submitter email address: jsalowey@cisco.com
Date Submitted: December 1, 2005
Reference:
Document: Keying-08
Comment type: T
Priority: 1
Section: 1.3, 1.4
Rationale/Explanation of issue:
Section 1.3

There are two styles of channel bindings that may be supported by EAP
methods. The text in this section describes exportable channel bindings.
There is also the approach where the bindings are non exportable.  In
this case the method does a binary comparison of the channel bindings or
hash of the channel bindings and fails if the result does not match.  I
can see the possibility of a method supporting both styles.  Should we
include both?

Section 1.4

Exportable channel binding are references in this section,
non-exportable ones are not.  If we make changes to this affect above
then we should change it here as well.


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Has this issue been addressed in -09, or are more changes needed?


Issue 322: Key Scope
Submitter name: Joe Salowey
Submitter email address: jsalowey@cisco.com
Date Submitted: December 1, 2005
Reference:
Document: Keying-08
Comment type: T
Priority: 1
Section: 2.4
Rationale/Explanation of issue:
The key scope section is a little hard to understand.
---
There is a lot of discussion about authenticator architecture which
probably should be pulled into a separate section on authenticator
architecture.
---
The key scope recommendations should specify which key it refers to.  I
believe it refers to the AAA-key.
---
There could be some more generic text about key scoping that describes
the requirements in the lower layer such as:

- Identify what parameters in the lower layer define the key scope
- In phase 0 communicate lower layer parameters that identify the key
scope between Peer and Authenticator
- If channel bindings are supported then include these parameters in the
channel bindings in phase 1a
- The peer can now use the key scope parameters to determine if it has
correct keys for phase 2 lower layer protocol interactions
=A0
Requested change:

Move the description of authenticator architecture to its own section
----

Include in the key scoping section introduction (2.4) something along
the lines of the following text:

"Since authenticator architectures and deployment scenarios vary the
usable scope of the keys derived by the peer and server and sent to the
authenticator vary.  By defining a key scope a lower layer can take
advantage of key caches in the system to optimize lower layer
interactions.  In order to address key scoping the following needs to be
specified by the lower layer:

- Identify what parameters in the lower layer define the key scope
- In phase 0 communicate lower layer parameters that identify the key
scope between Peer and Authenticator
- If channel bindings are supported then include these parameters in the
channel bindings in phase 1a
- The peer can now use the key scope parameters to determine if it has
correct keys for phase 2 lower layer protocol interactions"

The following sections describe key scoping with respect to the AAA-Key
that is sent to the authenticator for lower layer protection.  It is
possible that a lower layer may define other keys and key uses which
need to have scoping applied.
---

Make it clear that remaining parts of sections 2.4.1 and 2.4.2 refer to
the AAA-Key.


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The text of Issue 320 is enclosed below.  The proposed resolution is to=20
accept the changes, with modifications to one of the suggestions as follo=
ws:

Change

"The exception to the "no sharing" rule is the AAA layer.  On EAP
server, keying material requested by and passed down to the AAA layer
may be replicated to the AAA layer on the authenticator.   On the
authenticator, the AAA layer may provide the replicated keying
material to the lower layer over which the EAP authentication
conversation took place.  This enables "mode independence" to be
maintained. "

To

"On the EAP server, keying material requested by and passed down to the A=
AA=20
layer
may be replicated to the AAA layer on the authenticator.   On the
authenticator, the AAA layer may provide the replicated keying
material to the lower layer over which the EAP authentication
conversation took place.  This enables "mode independence" to be maintain=
ed.
However, the EMSK MUST NOT be transported by the AAA layer."

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
--------------------------------------------
Issue 320: Use of term lower layer
Submitter name: Joe Salowey
Submitter email address: jsalowey@cisco.com
Date Submitted: December 1, 2005
Reference:
Document: Keying-08
Comment type: E
Priority: 1
Section: 2
Rationale/Explanation of issue:
The term lower layer is used inconsistently in the document.

Lower layer should refer to the protocol between the EAP Peer and the
EAP Authenticator.  It is between these entities that the security
association protocol is typically run.  The MSK is transported to the
lower layer.

AAA is not an EAP lower layer except in the special case where the AAA
client and server are acting as the EAP Peer and EAP Authenticator for
some reason (an example of this could was in EUSM).  Entities other than
the lower layer may obtain keys derived from the EMSK.

Requested change:

Section 2.1
-----------
change

"Of these phases, Phase 0, 1b and Phase 2 are handled by a lower layer."

To

"Of these phases, Phase 0, 1b and Phase 2 are handled external to EAP.
Phases 0 and 2 are handled by the lower layer protocol and phase 1b is
typically handled by a AAA protocol."

Section 2.2
------------
(remove references to IV)
---
Change

"The EMSK MUST NOT be provided to the lower layer, nor is it permitted
to pass any quantity to the lower layer from which the EMSK could be
computed without breaking some cryptographic assumption, such as
inverting a one-way function."

To

"The EMSK MUST NOT be provided to an entity outside the EAP server or
peer,  nor is it permitted to pass any quantity to an entity outside the =
EAP
server or peer from which the EMSK could be computed without breaking som=
e=20
cryptographic assumption, such as
inverting a one-way function."
---
Change

"In order to preserve the security of keys derived within EAP methods,
lower layers other than AAA MUST NOT export keys passed down by EAP
methods. "

To

"In order to preserve the security of keys derived within EAP methods,
=A0lower layers MUST NOT export keys passed down by EAP
=A0methods."
---
Change

"EAP keying material and parameters provided to a lower layer other
than AAA MUST NOT be transported to another entity."

To

"EAP keying material and parameters provided to a lower layer MUST NOT
be transported to another entity."
---
Change

"The exception to the "no sharing" rule is the AAA layer.  On EAP
server, keying material requested by and passed down to the AAA layer
may be replicated to the AAA layer on the authenticator.   On the
authenticator, the AAA layer may provide the replicated keying
material to the lower layer over which the EAP authentication
conversation took place.  This enables "mode independence" to be
maintained. "

To

"The AAA layer may transport keys that are exported from the EAP server.
On the EAP server, keying material requested by and passed down to the AA=
A=20
layer
may be replicated to the AAA layer on the authenticator.   On the
authenticator, the AAA layer may provide the replicated keying
material to the lower layer over which the EAP authentication
conversation took place.  This enables "mode independence" to be=20
maintained."

-----------
Section 2.3
-----------

Change
"The caching behavior of existing EAP lower layers is as follows:"

To

"The caching behavior of existing EAP lower layers and AAA layers is as
follows:"


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Additional changes required to resolve this issue:

Change:

"Existing EAP lower layers handle the caching of EAP keying
material and the generation of transient session keys in
different ways:"

To:

"Existing EAP lower layers and AAA layers handle the caching of EAP keyin=
g
material and the generation of transient session keys in
different ways:"

Change "Lower Layer" to "Lower Layer or AAA" in Figure 3.

>The text of Issue 320 is enclosed below.  The proposed resolution is to=20
>accept the changes, with modifications to one of the suggestions as=20
>follows:
>
>Change
>
>"The exception to the "no sharing" rule is the AAA layer.  On EAP
>server, keying material requested by and passed down to the AAA layer
>may be replicated to the AAA layer on the authenticator.   On the
>authenticator, the AAA layer may provide the replicated keying
>material to the lower layer over which the EAP authentication
>conversation took place.  This enables "mode independence" to be
>maintained. "
>
>To
>
>"On the EAP server, keying material requested by and passed down to the =
AAA=20
>layer
>may be replicated to the AAA layer on the authenticator.   On the
>authenticator, the AAA layer may provide the replicated keying
>material to the lower layer over which the EAP authentication
>conversation took place.  This enables "mode independence" to be=20
>maintained.
>However, the EMSK MUST NOT be transported by the AAA layer."
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------=
---------------------------------------------
>Issue 320: Use of term lower layer
>Submitter name: Joe Salowey
>Submitter email address: jsalowey@cisco.com
>Date Submitted: December 1, 2005
>Reference:
>Document: Keying-08
>Comment type: E
>Priority: 1
>Section: 2
>Rationale/Explanation of issue:
>The term lower layer is used inconsistently in the document.
>
>Lower layer should refer to the protocol between the EAP Peer and the
>EAP Authenticator.  It is between these entities that the security
>association protocol is typically run.  The MSK is transported to the
>lower layer.
>
>AAA is not an EAP lower layer except in the special case where the AAA
>client and server are acting as the EAP Peer and EAP Authenticator for
>some reason (an example of this could was in EUSM).  Entities other than
>the lower layer may obtain keys derived from the EMSK.
>
>Requested change:
>
>Section 2.1
>-----------
>change
>
>"Of these phases, Phase 0, 1b and Phase 2 are handled by a lower layer."
>
>To
>
>"Of these phases, Phase 0, 1b and Phase 2 are handled external to EAP.
>Phases 0 and 2 are handled by the lower layer protocol and phase 1b is
>typically handled by a AAA protocol."
>
>Section 2.2
>------------
>(remove references to IV)
>---
>Change
>
>"The EMSK MUST NOT be provided to the lower layer, nor is it permitted
>to pass any quantity to the lower layer from which the EMSK could be
>computed without breaking some cryptographic assumption, such as
>inverting a one-way function."
>
>To
>
>"The EMSK MUST NOT be provided to an entity outside the EAP server or
>peer,  nor is it permitted to pass any quantity to an entity outside the=
=20
>EAP
>server or peer from which the EMSK could be computed without breaking so=
me=20
>cryptographic assumption, such as
>inverting a one-way function."
>---
>Change
>
>"In order to preserve the security of keys derived within EAP methods,
>lower layers other than AAA MUST NOT export keys passed down by EAP
>methods. "
>
>To
>
>"In order to preserve the security of keys derived within EAP methods,
>=A0lower layers MUST NOT export keys passed down by EAP
>=A0methods."
>---
>Change
>
>"EAP keying material and parameters provided to a lower layer other
>than AAA MUST NOT be transported to another entity."
>
>To
>
>"EAP keying material and parameters provided to a lower layer MUST NOT
>be transported to another entity."
>---
>Change
>
>"The exception to the "no sharing" rule is the AAA layer.  On EAP
>server, keying material requested by and passed down to the AAA layer
>may be replicated to the AAA layer on the authenticator.   On the
>authenticator, the AAA layer may provide the replicated keying
>material to the lower layer over which the EAP authentication
>conversation took place.  This enables "mode independence" to be
>maintained. "
>
>To
>
>"The AAA layer may transport keys that are exported from the EAP server.
>On the EAP server, keying material requested by and passed down to the A=
AA=20
>layer
>may be replicated to the AAA layer on the authenticator.   On the
>authenticator, the AAA layer may provide the replicated keying
>material to the lower layer over which the EAP authentication
>conversation took place.  This enables "mode independence" to be=20
>maintained."
>
>-----------
>Section 2.3
>-----------
>
>Change
>"The caching behavior of existing EAP lower layers is as follows:"
>
>To
>
>"The caching behavior of existing EAP lower layers and AAA layers is as
>follows:"
>
>
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One more:

Change the first two paragraphs of Section 2.2 to:

"As illustrated in Figure 3, on completion of EAP authentication, EAP=20
methods
export the Master Session Key (MSK), Extended
Master Session Key (EMSK), Peer-ID,
Server-ID, Session-ID and Key-Lifetime to the EAP peer or authenticator=20
layers.  The
Initialization Vector (IV) is
deprecated.

The EAP peer and authenticator layers MUST NOT modify or cache
keying material or parameters (including Channel Bindings)
passing in either direction between
the EAP method layer and the EAP layer.
The EAP layer also MUST NOT cache keying material or parameters
(including Channel Bindings) passed to it, whether by the EAP=20
peer/authenticator
layer, the lower layer or the AAA layer."

>Additional changes required to resolve this issue:
>
>Change:
>
>"Existing EAP lower layers handle the caching of EAP keying
>material and the generation of transient session keys in
>different ways:"
>
>To:
>
>"Existing EAP lower layers and AAA layers handle the caching of EAP keyi=
ng
>material and the generation of transient session keys in
>different ways:"
>
>Change "Lower Layer" to "Lower Layer or AAA" in Figure 3.
>
>>The text of Issue 320 is enclosed below.  The proposed resolution is to=
=20
>>accept the changes, with modifications to one of the suggestions as=20
>>follows:
>>
>>Change
>>
>>"The exception to the "no sharing" rule is the AAA layer.  On EAP
>>server, keying material requested by and passed down to the AAA layer
>>may be replicated to the AAA layer on the authenticator.   On the
>>authenticator, the AAA layer may provide the replicated keying
>>material to the lower layer over which the EAP authentication
>>conversation took place.  This enables "mode independence" to be
>>maintained. "
>>
>>To
>>
>>"On the EAP server, keying material requested by and passed down to the=
=20
>>AAA layer
>>may be replicated to the AAA layer on the authenticator.   On the
>>authenticator, the AAA layer may provide the replicated keying
>>material to the lower layer over which the EAP authentication
>>conversation took place.  This enables "mode independence" to be=20
>>maintained.
>>However, the EMSK MUST NOT be transported by the AAA layer."
>>
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----------------------------------------------
>>Issue 320: Use of term lower layer
>>Submitter name: Joe Salowey
>>Submitter email address: jsalowey@cisco.com
>>Date Submitted: December 1, 2005
>>Reference:
>>Document: Keying-08
>>Comment type: E
>>Priority: 1
>>Section: 2
>>Rationale/Explanation of issue:
>>The term lower layer is used inconsistently in the document.
>>
>>Lower layer should refer to the protocol between the EAP Peer and the
>>EAP Authenticator.  It is between these entities that the security
>>association protocol is typically run.  The MSK is transported to the
>>lower layer.
>>
>>AAA is not an EAP lower layer except in the special case where the AAA
>>client and server are acting as the EAP Peer and EAP Authenticator for
>>some reason (an example of this could was in EUSM).  Entities other tha=
n
>>the lower layer may obtain keys derived from the EMSK.
>>
>>Requested change:
>>
>>Section 2.1
>>-----------
>>change
>>
>>"Of these phases, Phase 0, 1b and Phase 2 are handled by a lower layer.=
"
>>
>>To
>>
>>"Of these phases, Phase 0, 1b and Phase 2 are handled external to EAP.
>>Phases 0 and 2 are handled by the lower layer protocol and phase 1b is
>>typically handled by a AAA protocol."
>>
>>Section 2.2
>>------------
>>(remove references to IV)
>>---
>>Change
>>
>>"The EMSK MUST NOT be provided to the lower layer, nor is it permitted
>>to pass any quantity to the lower layer from which the EMSK could be
>>computed without breaking some cryptographic assumption, such as
>>inverting a one-way function."
>>
>>To
>>
>>"The EMSK MUST NOT be provided to an entity outside the EAP server or
>>peer,  nor is it permitted to pass any quantity to an entity outside th=
e=20
>>EAP
>>server or peer from which the EMSK could be computed without breaking s=
ome=20
>>cryptographic assumption, such as
>>inverting a one-way function."
>>---
>>Change
>>
>>"In order to preserve the security of keys derived within EAP methods,
>>lower layers other than AAA MUST NOT export keys passed down by EAP
>>methods. "
>>
>>To
>>
>>"In order to preserve the security of keys derived within EAP methods,
>>=A0lower layers MUST NOT export keys passed down by EAP
>>=A0methods."
>>---
>>Change
>>
>>"EAP keying material and parameters provided to a lower layer other
>>than AAA MUST NOT be transported to another entity."
>>
>>To
>>
>>"EAP keying material and parameters provided to a lower layer MUST NOT
>>be transported to another entity."
>>---
>>Change
>>
>>"The exception to the "no sharing" rule is the AAA layer.  On EAP
>>server, keying material requested by and passed down to the AAA layer
>>may be replicated to the AAA layer on the authenticator.   On the
>>authenticator, the AAA layer may provide the replicated keying
>>material to the lower layer over which the EAP authentication
>>conversation took place.  This enables "mode independence" to be
>>maintained. "
>>
>>To
>>
>>"The AAA layer may transport keys that are exported from the EAP server.
>>On the EAP server, keying material requested by and passed down to the =
AAA=20
>>layer
>>may be replicated to the AAA layer on the authenticator.   On the
>>authenticator, the AAA layer may provide the replicated keying
>>material to the lower layer over which the EAP authentication
>>conversation took place.  This enables "mode independence" to be=20
>>maintained."
>>
>>-----------
>>Section 2.3
>>-----------
>>
>>Change
>>"The caching behavior of existing EAP lower layers is as follows:"
>>
>>To
>>
>>"The caching behavior of existing EAP lower layers and AAA layers is as
>>follows:"
>>
>>
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The issue of the meaning of "lower layer" was also brought up in Issue 320.  
Are those changes sufficient to clarify the issue?

Does the following change address the re-key issue?

In Section 3.2, change:

"  As a result,  while the lifetime of calculated keys can be less than
   or equal that of the exported keys they are derived from, it cannot
   be greater.  For example, TSK re-key may occur prior to EAP re-
   authentication."

To:

" As a result, while the lifetime of calculated keys can be less than
or equal that of the exported keys they are derived from, it cannot
be greater. For example, when EAP re-authentication occurs, TSK
re-key will also occur. However, this does not prohibit TSK re-key
from occurring prior to expiration of the lifetime of exported keys.
For example, TSK re-key may occur prior to EAP re-authentication."

Here is some additional material on the EAP conversation phases:

Add the following material to Section 2.1:

Existing EAP lower layers implement phase 0, 2a and 2b in different ways:

PPP PPP, defined in [RFC1661] does not support discovery, nor does
it include a Secure Association Protocol.

PPPOE PPPOE, defined in [RFC2516], includes support for a Discovery stage
(phase 0). In this step, the EAP peer sends a PPPoE Active Discovery
Initiation (PADI) packet to the broadcast address, indicating
the service it is requesting. The Access Concentrator replies
with a PPPOE Active Discovery Offer (PADO) packet containing
its name, the service name and an indication of the services
offered by the concentrator. The discovery phase is not secured.
PPPOE, like PPP, does not include a Secure Association Protocol.

IKEv2
IKEv2, defined in [RFC4306], handles the derivation of unicast security
associations (phase 2a), while the derivation of multicast security
associations (phase 2b) is handled in a separate group key management 
protocol,
as described in [RFC4046]. Several mechanisms have
been proposed for discovery of IPsec security gateways.
[RFC2230] discusses the use of KX Resource Records (RRs) for
IPsec gateway discovery. However, while KX RRs are
supported by many DNS server implementations, they have not yet been
widely deployed. Alternatively, DNS SRV [RFC2782] can be used for
this purpose. Where DNS is used for gateway location, DNS security
mechanisms such as DNSSEC ([RFC2535], [RFC2931]), TSIG [RFC2845], and
Simple Secure Dynamic Update [RFC3007] are available.

IEEE 802.11i
IEEE 802.11, defined in [IEEE-802.11], handles discovery via the
Beacon and Probe Request/Response mechanisms. EAP authenticators
periodically announce their service names (SSIDs) as well as
capabilities using Beacon frames. Alternatively, EAP peers
can query for authenticators by sending a Probe Request to the
broadcast address. The 4-way handshake defined in [IEEE-802.11i]
enables the derivation of unicast (phase 2a) and multicast/broadcast
(phase 2b) secure associations. Note that since the group key
exchange transports a group key from the authenticator to the
peer, two 4-way handshakes may be required in order to support
peer-to-peer communications.

IEEE 802.1X-2004
IEEE 802.1X-2004, defined in [IEEE-802.1X-2004] does not support
discovery (phase 0), nor does it provide for derivation of unicast
or multicast secure associations.

IEEE 802.16e
IEEE 802.16e, defined in [IEEE-802.16e] {need more text.  Any volunteers?}

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Issue 309: Review
Submitter name: Maryline Maknavicius
Submitter email address: Maryline.Maknavicius@int-evry.fr
Date first submitted: 11/09/2005
Reference: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/eap/msg03755.html
Document: KEYING-08
Comment type: T
Priority: S
Section: Various
Rationale/Explanation of issue

Please find hereafter few comments on draft-ietf-eap-keying-08.

1. IMHO the meaning of "lower layer" should be clarified and make consistent
through all the document.
For instance, figure 3 and section 2.3 consider lower layer as including 
AAA,
while figure 4 and associated explanations of section 2.2 consider AAA and 
lower
layers separately.

For instance, this does  not help understanding section 2.4.1 :
"[a] The lower layer MAY specify additional restrictions on key usage,
     such as limiting the use of EAP keying material and parameters on
     the EAP peer to the port over which on the EAP conversation was
     conducted."

where I guess lower layer does not correspond to AAA, but I may have
misunderstood.

To clarify, I think a definition of "lower layers" is needed in section 1.2.

2. In section 2.1, a typical conversation with phases is given with no 
details
on what applies for specific lower layer protocols like IKEv2, PPP, IEEE
802.11i...
However, in section 2.3 (caching), explanations are personalized to each 
lower
layer protocol, giving clues on how this framework should integrate in each
protocol.

I feel like a section (or an appendix) is missing on how this framework 
applies
to current lower layer protocols.

3. Other clarifications needed in section 3.2:
"  As a result,  while the lifetime of calculated keys can be less than
   or equal that of the exported keys they are derived from, it cannot
   be greater.  For example, TSK re-key may occur prior to EAP re-
   authentication."
I do not understand how the last sentence ("TSK re-key may occur prior to 
EAP
re-authentication") illustrates that exported keys have greater/same 
lifetime
than derived keys. Maybe to be removed or better explained.


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In <JoVxs2CoYO0DFAFt@highwayman.com> Richard Clayton <richard@highwayman.com> writes:

>In message <It8Lrr.D63@clerew.man.ac.uk>, Charles Lindsey
><chl@clerew.man.ac.uk> writes

>>In the cases I looked at, the IP address had clearly been added by the
>>site to the left (since the site to the left always appeared with some IP
>>address to its right - which is essentially what you are reporting).

>I see IPv4 addresses a lot as well...  but only right at the edge of
>network (at the far right of the path)  Usually there is something else
>nearby in the Path header field which is equivalent to POSTED.

Well I posted my evidence in
http://www.imc.org/ietf-usefor/mail-archive/msg01772.html, and indeed
there was one site (uni-berline.de) that regularly did it when injecting,
but there were others (over 1% of my sample) where it was in the middle.

Here is a bunch of Paths with IP addresses in the middle. I have truncated
the irelevant part of the Path up to the site of interest, and I have
folded manually so you can see them.

Path: ...!worldnet.att.net!207.14.113.17!news.alt.net!usenet
Path: ...!worldnet.att.net!216.196.98.144!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!
    nntp.giganews.com!local1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.nildram.net!
    news.nildram.net.POSTED!not-for-mail
Path: ...!worldnet.att.net!198.6.0.85!ash.uu.net!sl-news.
Path: ...!worldnet.att.net!198.6.0.86!ash.uu.net!sl-news.
Path: ...!worldnet.att.net!216.196.98.144!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!
    border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!
    local1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.nildram.net!news.nildram.net.POSTED!
    not-for-mail
Path: ...!worldnet.att.net!216.196.98.144!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!
    border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!
    local1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.pipex.net!news.pipex.net.POSTED!not-for-mail
Path: ...!worldnet.att.net!216.196.98.144!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!
    border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!
    local1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.nildram.net!news.nildram.net.POSTED!
    not-for-mail
Path: ...!worldnet.att.net!207.14.113.17!news.alt.net!usenet
Path: ...!worldnet.att.net!207.14.113.17!news.alt.net!usenet
Path: ...!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!216.218.192.242!news.he.net!news.kjsl.com!
    news-peer-lilac.gradwell.net!not-for-mail
Path: ...!worldnet.att.net!207.14.113.17!news.alt.net!usenet
Path: ...!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!216.218.192.242!news.he.net!news.kjsl.com!
    news-peer-lilac.gradwell.net!news-peer.gradwell.net!news.markshouse.net
Path: ...!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!216.218.192.242!news.he.net!
    news.kjsl.com!news-peer-lilac.gradwell.net!not-for-mail
Path: ...!worldnet.att.net!207.14.113.17!news.alt.net!usenet
Path: ...!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!216.218.192.242!news.he.net!
    news.kjsl.com!news-peer-lilac.gradwell.net!not-for-mail
Path: ...!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!216.218.192.242!news.he.net!news.kjsl.com!
    news-peer-lilac.gradwell.net!not-for-mail
Path: ...!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!216.218.192.242!news.he.net!news.kjsl.com!
    news-peer-lilac.gradwell.net!not-for-mail
Path: ...!worldnet.att.net!129.250.169.16!pln-e!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!
    newsp.newsguy.com!psp.co.uk!tfl
Path: ...!worldnet.att.net!207.14.113.17!news.alt.net!usenet

In the case of the worldnet.att.net, it is immediately apparent that the
following IP adress correlates with the host received-from. In the case of
the cyclone-sf.pbi.net, nslookup shows
Name:    news.he.net
Address:  216.218.192.242

So those two sites are clearly using the IP address in our "SEEN" sense.
There are probably other sites doing the same (not a huge number, but
enough).

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I had a discussion with Mohan and we have a doubt about usefulness of
exportable channel binding.  It appears that relying solely on the
binary comparison does not prevent a rogue NAS from advertising the
same incorrect parameters for both peer and authentication server.
In fact it is stated in draft-arkko-eap-service-identity-auth-04.txt:

"
   It is important to make a distinction between channel bindings and
   authenticating information related to the the pass-through
   authenticator.  Channel bindings only ensure that the same
   information is available to the EAP peer and the AAA server.  This
   alone does not prevent an authenticator from impersonating another
   authenticator if the AAA server blindly accepts any information
   received from the authenticator.  To provide authentication, the AAA
   server has to verify that the information actually corresponds to the
   entity the AAA-Key is sent to.
"

On the other hand, the current Channel Binding definition in section
1.3 of eap-keying states:

"
   Channel Bindings include lower layer parameters that are verified for
   consistency between the EAP peer and server.
"

This definition also seems to imply that the aspects of authenticating
information related to the pass-through authenticator is not included
in the "verification" process.  

But I think that the definition of Channel Binding should be revised
to include the functionality of authenticating information related to
the pass-through authenticator so that it can even prevent a rogue NAS
from advertising the same incorrect parameters for both peer and
authentication server, otherwise, Channel Binding is just incomplete.
Along this line, it appears that the only way to prevent this is
pre-configuring lower-layer parameters on a server.  If so, exchanging
lower-layer parameters in EAP methods does not make sense.  On the
other hand, draft-ohba-eap-aaakey-binding is incomplete as well
because the solution still relies on the EAP authenticator to send a
blob to the server.

This seems to be a fundamental issue and we are currently working on a
new channel binding I-D to address the above point I made (to be
submitted in a few days.)

Regards,
Yoshihiro Ohba



On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 09:25:51PM -0800, Bernard Aboba wrote:
> It sounds like we have agreed to further develop the text on channel 
> bindings.  Can someone supply text?
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Issue 325: Channel Bindings
> Submitter name: Joe Salowey
> Submitter email address: jsalowey@cisco.com
> Date Submitted: December 1, 2005
> Reference:
> Document: Keying-08
> Comment type: T
> Priority: 1
> Section: 1.3, 1.4
> Rationale/Explanation of issue:
> Section 1.3
> 
> There are two styles of channel bindings that may be supported by EAP
> methods. The text in this section describes exportable channel bindings.
> There is also the approach where the bindings are non exportable.  In
> this case the method does a binary comparison of the channel bindings or
> hash of the channel bindings and fails if the result does not match.  I
> can see the possibility of a method supporting both styles.  Should we
> include both?
> 
> Section 1.4
> 
> Exportable channel binding are references in this section,
> non-exportable ones are not.  If we make changes to this affect above
> then we should change it here as well.
> 
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Good point.  Channel bindings is not just about verifying that the peer and 
server are told the same information by the authenticator.  It is also about 
enabling the validation of the information itself.

In practice, the validation will often require pre-configuration on the 
first-hop AAA server.  For example, a first-hop proxy may need to:

a. Validate the NAS-IP-Address/NAS-IPv6-Address/NAS-Identifier against the 
source IP address in the AAA packet

b. Check the Called-Station-ID and other attributes against a pre-configured 
entry for the NAS

c. Compare the Calling-Station-ID attribute against pre-configured entries 
for that User-Name, etc.

All of this pre-configuration is expensive, and something of a management 
headache.  As a result, it is not entirely clear to me that operators will 
be motivated to implement it, at least until the problem becomes big enough 
(e.g. fraud losses become substantial).




>From: Yoshihiro Ohba <yohba@tari.toshiba.com>
>To: Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com>
>CC: eap@frascone.com
>Subject: Re: [eap] Re: Issue 325: Channel Bindings
>Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:27:51 -0500
>
>I had a discussion with Mohan and we have a doubt about usefulness of
>exportable channel binding.  It appears that relying solely on the
>binary comparison does not prevent a rogue NAS from advertising the
>same incorrect parameters for both peer and authentication server.
>In fact it is stated in draft-arkko-eap-service-identity-auth-04.txt:
>
>"
>    It is important to make a distinction between channel bindings and
>    authenticating information related to the the pass-through
>    authenticator.  Channel bindings only ensure that the same
>    information is available to the EAP peer and the AAA server.  This
>    alone does not prevent an authenticator from impersonating another
>    authenticator if the AAA server blindly accepts any information
>    received from the authenticator.  To provide authentication, the AAA
>    server has to verify that the information actually corresponds to the
>    entity the AAA-Key is sent to.
>"
>
>On the other hand, the current Channel Binding definition in section
>1.3 of eap-keying states:
>
>"
>    Channel Bindings include lower layer parameters that are verified for
>    consistency between the EAP peer and server.
>"
>
>This definition also seems to imply that the aspects of authenticating
>information related to the pass-through authenticator is not included
>in the "verification" process.
>
>But I think that the definition of Channel Binding should be revised
>to include the functionality of authenticating information related to
>the pass-through authenticator so that it can even prevent a rogue NAS
>from advertising the same incorrect parameters for both peer and
>authentication server, otherwise, Channel Binding is just incomplete.
>Along this line, it appears that the only way to prevent this is
>pre-configuring lower-layer parameters on a server.  If so, exchanging
>lower-layer parameters in EAP methods does not make sense.  On the
>other hand, draft-ohba-eap-aaakey-binding is incomplete as well
>because the solution still relies on the EAP authenticator to send a
>blob to the server.
>
>This seems to be a fundamental issue and we are currently working on a
>new channel binding I-D to address the above point I made (to be
>submitted in a few days.)
>
>Regards,
>Yoshihiro Ohba
>
>
>
>On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 09:25:51PM -0800, Bernard Aboba wrote:
> > It sounds like we have agreed to further develop the text on channel
> > bindings.  Can someone supply text?
> >
> > 
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Issue 325: Channel Bindings
> > Submitter name: Joe Salowey
> > Submitter email address: jsalowey@cisco.com
> > Date Submitted: December 1, 2005
> > Reference:
> > Document: Keying-08
> > Comment type: T
> > Priority: 1
> > Section: 1.3, 1.4
> > Rationale/Explanation of issue:
> > Section 1.3
> >
> > There are two styles of channel bindings that may be supported by EAP
> > methods. The text in this section describes exportable channel bindings.
> > There is also the approach where the bindings are non exportable.  In
> > this case the method does a binary comparison of the channel bindings or
> > hash of the channel bindings and fails if the result does not match.  I
> > can see the possibility of a method supporting both styles.  Should we
> > include both?
> >
> > Section 1.4
> >
> > Exportable channel binding are references in this section,
> > non-exportable ones are not.  If we make changes to this affect above
> > then we should change it here as well.
> >
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On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 05:53:57PM -0800, Bernard Aboba wrote:
> Good point.  Channel bindings is not just about verifying that the peer 
> and server are told the same information by the authenticator.  It is 
> also about enabling the validation of the information itself.
> 
> In practice, the validation will often require pre-configuration on the 
> first-hop AAA server.  For example, a first-hop proxy may need to:
> 
> a. Validate the NAS-IP-Address/NAS-IPv6-Address/NAS-Identifier against 
> the source IP address in the AAA packet
> 
> b. Check the Called-Station-ID and other attributes against a 
> pre-configured entry for the NAS
> 
> c. Compare the Calling-Station-ID attribute against pre-configured 
> entries for that User-Name, etc.
> 
> All of this pre-configuration is expensive, and something of a 
> management headache.  As a result, it is not entirely clear to me that 
> operators will be motivated to implement it, at least until the problem 
> becomes big enough (e.g. fraud losses become substantial).

Sure.  This would lead to a requirement that the Channel Binding is an 
optional feature anyways.  This means that some negotiation must
occur between EAP peer and authentication server about the use of this
functionality.  This negotiation can be naturally provided by EAP
methods since they run between EAP peer and EAP server where the EAP
server is typically implemented on the authentication server.

I think that this negotiation capability should be a requirement for
an EAP method to claim Channel Binding support, rather than the one
currently described in section 7.2.1 of RFC 3748, which is incomplete.

(My personal opinion is that it is a bit early to close the EAP WG
before completely solving the Channel Binding problem which seems to
be also important for future work such as handover keying and
preauth...)

Regards,
Yoshihiro Ohba


> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Yoshihiro Ohba <yohba@tari.toshiba.com>
> >To: Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com>
> >CC: eap@frascone.com
> >Subject: Re: [eap] Re: Issue 325: Channel Bindings
> >Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:27:51 -0500
> >
> >I had a discussion with Mohan and we have a doubt about usefulness of
> >exportable channel binding.  It appears that relying solely on the
> >binary comparison does not prevent a rogue NAS from advertising the
> >same incorrect parameters for both peer and authentication server.
> >In fact it is stated in draft-arkko-eap-service-identity-auth-04.txt:
> >
> >"
> >   It is important to make a distinction between channel bindings and
> >   authenticating information related to the the pass-through
> >   authenticator.  Channel bindings only ensure that the same
> >   information is available to the EAP peer and the AAA server.  This
> >   alone does not prevent an authenticator from impersonating another
> >   authenticator if the AAA server blindly accepts any information
> >   received from the authenticator.  To provide authentication, the AAA
> >   server has to verify that the information actually corresponds to the
> >   entity the AAA-Key is sent to.
> >"
> >
> >On the other hand, the current Channel Binding definition in section
> >1.3 of eap-keying states:
> >
> >"
> >   Channel Bindings include lower layer parameters that are verified for
> >   consistency between the EAP peer and server.
> >"
> >
> >This definition also seems to imply that the aspects of authenticating
> >information related to the pass-through authenticator is not included
> >in the "verification" process.
> >
> >But I think that the definition of Channel Binding should be revised
> >to include the functionality of authenticating information related to
> >the pass-through authenticator so that it can even prevent a rogue NAS
> >from advertising the same incorrect parameters for both peer and
> >authentication server, otherwise, Channel Binding is just incomplete.
> >Along this line, it appears that the only way to prevent this is
> >pre-configuring lower-layer parameters on a server.  If so, exchanging
> >lower-layer parameters in EAP methods does not make sense.  On the
> >other hand, draft-ohba-eap-aaakey-binding is incomplete as well
> >because the solution still relies on the EAP authenticator to send a
> >blob to the server.
> >
> >This seems to be a fundamental issue and we are currently working on a
> >new channel binding I-D to address the above point I made (to be
> >submitted in a few days.)
> >
> >Regards,
> >Yoshihiro Ohba
> >
> >
> >
> >On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 09:25:51PM -0800, Bernard Aboba wrote:
> >> It sounds like we have agreed to further develop the text on channel
> >> bindings.  Can someone supply text?
> >>
> >> 
> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Issue 325: Channel Bindings
> >> Submitter name: Joe Salowey
> >> Submitter email address: jsalowey@cisco.com
> >> Date Submitted: December 1, 2005
> >> Reference:
> >> Document: Keying-08
> >> Comment type: T
> >> Priority: 1
> >> Section: 1.3, 1.4
> >> Rationale/Explanation of issue:
> >> Section 1.3
> >>
> >> There are two styles of channel bindings that may be supported by EAP
> >> methods. The text in this section describes exportable channel 
> >bindings.
> >> There is also the approach where the bindings are non exportable.  In
> >> this case the method does a binary comparison of the channel bindings 
> >or
> >> hash of the channel bindings and fails if the result does not match.  
> >I
> >> can see the possibility of a method supporting both styles.  Should we
> >> include both?
> >>
> >> Section 1.4
> >>
> >> Exportable channel binding are references in this section,
> >> non-exportable ones are not.  If we make changes to this affect above
> >> then we should change it here as well.
> >>
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rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:

>A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.
>
>
>        RFC 4284
>
>        Title:      Identity Selection Hints for the 
>                    Extensible Authentication Protocol EAP 
>        Author:     F. Adrangi,  V. Lortz, 
>                    F. Bari,  P. Eronen
>        Status:     Informational
>        Date:       January 2006
>        Mailbox:    farid.adrangi@intel.com, 
>                    victor.lortz@intel.com, 
>                    farooq.bari@cingular.com, pasi.eronen@nokia.com
>        Pages:      14
>        Characters: 30322
>        Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:   None
>
>        I-D Tag:    draft-adrangi-eap-network-discovery-14.txt
>
>        URL:        http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4284.txt
>
>The Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP) is defined in RFC 3748.
>This document defines a mechanism that allows an access network to
>provide identity selection hints to an EAP peer -- the end of the
>link that responds to the authenticator.  The purpose is to assist
>the EAP peer in selecting an appropriate Network Access Identifier
>(NAI).  This is useful in situations where the peer does not receive
>a lower-layer indication of what network it is connecting to, or when
>there is no direct roaming relationship between the access network
>and the peer\'s home network.  In the latter case, authentication is
>typically accomplished via a mediating network such as a roaming
>consortium or broker.
>
>The mechanism defined in this document is limited in its scalability.
>It is intended for access networks that have a small to moderate
>number of direct roaming partners.  This memo provides information for the Internet community.
>  
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After announcing they cleaned $1,000,000.00 worth 
of debt off their books, investors start rally !!!
**INVESTOR WATCH ISSUED FOR TUESDAY 24th, 
BIG MOVE COULD HAPPEN** 

Symbol: MWIS 
Jan 23rd: $0.195
Short Term: $0.50 - $0.75 
Long Term: $1.50 - $1.75 
Indicator: Investor Buy 

This stock has had fantastic return on investment 
for our members. We have been keeping a close eye on it 
as we believe it has not yet peaked it's potential. 

We are now expecting another jump on Tuesday 
as we see something is brewing with this company.

Members, Tuesday morning is the time to take advantage 
of this stocks consistent momentum. We do not know what time 
the release will come out but we do know that when it does 
we should see a great return on our investment.. 
We have this listed as a investor watch but released 
early Monday as a invertor(BUY).

However, we are telling you something more important than that. 

Note: Stocks volume spikes before price jump over last few months 

Today, Members, we watched MWIS spike to over 1 million shares 
at its 10 day average. We would recommend this as a long term 
investment anytime, but we are alerting you now that this is ready 
to have a big jump again. 

Put your bid in for the market open on Tuesday and get on 
this before you miss out on another jump. 

Long-term investments are great but fast cash can be exciting. 

MWIS has had a pattern for a while of large Jumps in Price 
and Volume, and it is usually preceded by a large increase 
in volume right before the jump.




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Issue: Terminology issues
Submitter name: Bernard aboba
Submitter email address: aboba@internaut.com
Date Submitted: January 24, 2006
Reference:
Document: NETSEL-03
Comment type: E
Priority: S
Section: Various
Rationale/Explanation of issue:

This document needs a terminology section.

In particular, the term "network selection" is not defined, and appears to 
be  used to refer to a number of fundamentally different problems.

In looking at usage in other standards bodies (such as IEEE 802.11), the 
term has been used in a number of contexts, and at times it is hard to tell 
what context the document is discussing.  For example:

a. The term "Network Selection" has sometimes been used to describe the 
problem of
choosing between interfaces.  For example, one interface may be CDMA, and 
another
may be 802.11;  which interface should be used for outgoing traffic?  I 
would
propose that we call this "interface selection".

b. The term has also been used to describe the problem of choosing between 
"points
of attachment".  For example, there are three APs out there, which one 
should my
802.11 interface choose?  In this context, the term "network" may actually 
refer
to a desire to avoid having to change IP addresses by retaining attachment
to the same IP network or prefix.  Perhaps the term "handoff
candidate selection" might better describe this problem?

c. Sometimes the term appears to be used as a synonym for
"identity selection".   Note that RFC 4284 is entitled "Identity Selection 
Hints
for EAP"; the document does not use the term "network selection"  except
in reference to external work, such as this problem statement document.

Given the confusion caused by conflicting usage of the term "network
selection" I would recommend that the authors consider adding a terminology
section in which this and other terms can be defined.


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Issue: Reference Update
Submitter name: Bernard aboba
Submitter email address: aboba@internaut.com
Date Submitted: January 24, 2006
Reference:
Document: NETSEL-03
Comment type: E
Priority: S
Section: Various
Rationale/Explanation of issue:

A number of the references in the draft have now been updated.  These 
include:

[I-D.ietf-ipsec-ikev2] - now published as RFC 4306.
[I-D.adrangi-eap-network-discovery] - now published as RFC 4284.
[I-D.ietf-radext-rfc2486bis] - now published as RFC 4282.
[IEEE.802.11-1999]  - now updated as [IEEE.802.11-2003].
[IEEE.8021x] - now updated as [IEEE.802.1X-2004]


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This looks good to me. =20

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernard Aboba [mailto:bernard_aboba@hotmail.com]=20
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:32 AM
> To: bernard_aboba@hotmail.com; eap@frascone.com
> Subject: RE: [eap] Proposed Resolution of Issue 320: Use of=20
> term Lower Layer
>=20
> One more:
>=20
> Change the first two paragraphs of Section 2.2 to:
>=20
> "As illustrated in Figure 3, on completion of EAP authentication, EAP=20
> methods
> export the Master Session Key (MSK), Extended
> Master Session Key (EMSK), Peer-ID,
> Server-ID, Session-ID and Key-Lifetime to the EAP peer or=20
> authenticator=20
> layers.  The
> Initialization Vector (IV) is
> deprecated.
>=20
> The EAP peer and authenticator layers MUST NOT modify or cache
> keying material or parameters (including Channel Bindings)
> passing in either direction between
> the EAP method layer and the EAP layer.
> The EAP layer also MUST NOT cache keying material or parameters
> (including Channel Bindings) passed to it, whether by the EAP=20
> peer/authenticator
> layer, the lower layer or the AAA layer."
>=20
> >Additional changes required to resolve this issue:
> >
> >Change:
> >
> >"Existing EAP lower layers handle the caching of EAP keying
> >material and the generation of transient session keys in
> >different ways:"
> >
> >To:
> >
> >"Existing EAP lower layers and AAA layers handle the caching=20
> of EAP keying
> >material and the generation of transient session keys in
> >different ways:"
> >
> >Change "Lower Layer" to "Lower Layer or AAA" in Figure 3.
> >
> >>The text of Issue 320 is enclosed below.  The proposed=20
> resolution is to=20
> >>accept the changes, with modifications to one of the suggestions as=20
> >>follows:
> >>
> >>Change
> >>
> >>"The exception to the "no sharing" rule is the AAA layer.  On EAP
> >>server, keying material requested by and passed down to the=20
> AAA layer
> >>may be replicated to the AAA layer on the authenticator.   On the
> >>authenticator, the AAA layer may provide the replicated keying
> >>material to the lower layer over which the EAP authentication
> >>conversation took place.  This enables "mode independence" to be
> >>maintained. "
> >>
> >>To
> >>
> >>"On the EAP server, keying material requested by and passed=20
> down to the=20
> >>AAA layer
> >>may be replicated to the AAA layer on the authenticator.   On the
> >>authenticator, the AAA layer may provide the replicated keying
> >>material to the lower layer over which the EAP authentication
> >>conversation took place.  This enables "mode independence" to be=20
> >>maintained.
> >>However, the EMSK MUST NOT be transported by the AAA layer."
> >>
> >>------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>Issue 320: Use of term lower layer
> >>Submitter name: Joe Salowey
> >>Submitter email address: jsalowey@cisco.com
> >>Date Submitted: December 1, 2005
> >>Reference:
> >>Document: Keying-08
> >>Comment type: E
> >>Priority: 1
> >>Section: 2
> >>Rationale/Explanation of issue:
> >>The term lower layer is used inconsistently in the document.
> >>
> >>Lower layer should refer to the protocol between the EAP=20
> Peer and the
> >>EAP Authenticator.  It is between these entities that the security
> >>association protocol is typically run.  The MSK is=20
> transported to the
> >>lower layer.
> >>
> >>AAA is not an EAP lower layer except in the special case=20
> where the AAA
> >>client and server are acting as the EAP Peer and EAP=20
> Authenticator for
> >>some reason (an example of this could was in EUSM). =20
> Entities other than
> >>the lower layer may obtain keys derived from the EMSK.
> >>
> >>Requested change:
> >>
> >>Section 2.1
> >>-----------
> >>change
> >>
> >>"Of these phases, Phase 0, 1b and Phase 2 are handled by a=20
> lower layer."
> >>
> >>To
> >>
> >>"Of these phases, Phase 0, 1b and Phase 2 are handled=20
> external to EAP.
> >>Phases 0 and 2 are handled by the lower layer protocol and=20
> phase 1b is
> >>typically handled by a AAA protocol."
> >>
> >>Section 2.2
> >>------------
> >>(remove references to IV)
> >>---
> >>Change
> >>
> >>"The EMSK MUST NOT be provided to the lower layer, nor is=20
> it permitted
> >>to pass any quantity to the lower layer from which the EMSK could be
> >>computed without breaking some cryptographic assumption, such as
> >>inverting a one-way function."
> >>
> >>To
> >>
> >>"The EMSK MUST NOT be provided to an entity outside the EAP=20
> server or
> >>peer,  nor is it permitted to pass any quantity to an=20
> entity outside the=20
> >>EAP
> >>server or peer from which the EMSK could be computed=20
> without breaking some=20
> >>cryptographic assumption, such as
> >>inverting a one-way function."
> >>---
> >>Change
> >>
> >>"In order to preserve the security of keys derived within=20
> EAP methods,
> >>lower layers other than AAA MUST NOT export keys passed down by EAP
> >>methods. "
> >>
> >>To
> >>
> >>"In order to preserve the security of keys derived within=20
> EAP methods,
> >>=A0lower layers MUST NOT export keys passed down by EAP
> >>=A0methods."
> >>---
> >>Change
> >>
> >>"EAP keying material and parameters provided to a lower layer other
> >>than AAA MUST NOT be transported to another entity."
> >>
> >>To
> >>
> >>"EAP keying material and parameters provided to a lower=20
> layer MUST NOT
> >>be transported to another entity."
> >>---
> >>Change
> >>
> >>"The exception to the "no sharing" rule is the AAA layer.  On EAP
> >>server, keying material requested by and passed down to the=20
> AAA layer
> >>may be replicated to the AAA layer on the authenticator.   On the
> >>authenticator, the AAA layer may provide the replicated keying
> >>material to the lower layer over which the EAP authentication
> >>conversation took place.  This enables "mode independence" to be
> >>maintained. "
> >>
> >>To
> >>
> >>"The AAA layer may transport keys that are exported from=20
> the EAP server.
> >>On the EAP server, keying material requested by and passed=20
> down to the AAA=20
> >>layer
> >>may be replicated to the AAA layer on the authenticator.   On the
> >>authenticator, the AAA layer may provide the replicated keying
> >>material to the lower layer over which the EAP authentication
> >>conversation took place.  This enables "mode independence" to be=20
> >>maintained."
> >>
> >>-----------
> >>Section 2.3
> >>-----------
> >>
> >>Change
> >>"The caching behavior of existing EAP lower layers is as follows:"
> >>
> >>To
> >>
> >>"The caching behavior of existing EAP lower layers and AAA=20
> layers is as
> >>follows:"
> >>
> >>
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How about:

"In order to prevent keys from exposure beyond their intended usage a
key should not typically be both transported and cached by an entity.
An entity may cache a key for the purpose of deriving additional keys
for other uses.  In this case they cached key should only be used for
key derivation purposes and the key derivation function should provide
cryptographic separation between the derived keys and the cached key."

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernard Aboba [mailto:Bernard_Aboba@hotmail.com]=20
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:46 PM
> To: Salowey, Joe; eap@frascone.com
> Subject: RE: [eap] Proposed Resolution to Issue 323: AAA Key Cache
>=20
> [Joe] Why do you want to use the same key in both places?
>=20
> [BA] I don't know why that would be necessary or desirable. =20
>=20
> [Joe] If I understand the current text correctly it is stating that an
> entity should not simultaneously cache and transport a key. =20
> In general
> this is good practice because it prevents reuse of a key, if you are
> going to give someone else a key for a specific purpose you should not
> hold onto it for another use.  While I don't  agree with a MUST NOT
> cache transported keys, I would question why you would want=20
> to do this.
> It seems that the current text allows one to cache a key and=20
> export keys
> derived from it.  Perhaps the text should explicitly say so.=20
>=20
> [BA] That sounds reasonable.  Do you have some text to suggest?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernard Aboba [mailto:bernard_aboba@hotmail.com]=20
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> Subject: [eap] Re: Issue 326: Identifiers
>=20
> Question:   can you supply text for the additional material=20
> on "Identifier=20
> attributes"?

[Joe] How about:

"The EAP method may export additional identity attributes that are =
associated with the authenticated identity.  These attributes may be =
obtained from exchanged credentials such as certificates attributes, =
from information stored in a database entry associated with the =
identity, or from a trusted third party.  This information may be used =
for authorization purposes in the lower layer or the AAA layer. "

>=20
> How about the following:
>=20
> "The combination of the Peer-ID and Server-ID may uniquely specify the
> endpoints of the EAP method exchange when they are provided."
>=20

[Joe] Looks OK.

>=20
>=20
> Issue 326: Identifiers
> Submitter name: Joe Salowey
> Submitter email address: jsalowey@cisco.com
> Date Submitted: December 1, 2005
> Reference:
> Document: Keying-08
> Comment type: T
> Priority: 1
> Section: 1
> Rationale/Explanation of issue:
>=20
> "  EAP methods also MAY export method-specific peer and server
>    identifiers (peer-ID and server-ID), a method-specific EAP
>    conversation identifier known as the Method-ID, and the lifetime of
>    the exported keys, known the Key-Lifetime.   EAP methods MAY also
>    support the import and export of Channel Bindings.  New EAP method
>    specifications MUST define the Peer-ID, Server-ID and=20
> Method-ID. The
>    combination of the Peer-ID and Server-ID uniquely specifies the
>    endpoints of the EAP method exchange."
>=20
> It seems that additional data associated with the identity should be
> exported to satisfy section 1.3.  Suggestion is to add this and call
> them identity attributes.
>=20
> In this paragraph it states that the "Peer-ID and Server-ID uniquely
> specifies the=A0=A0endpoints of the EAP method exchange", however=20
> further down=20
> it states
> that these quantities may be null.  This is contradictory.  Suggested
> modification to above text:
>=20
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernard Aboba [mailto:Bernard_Aboba@hotmail.com]=20
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>=20
> > To:
> >=20
> > "The EAP server also stores the peer's identity as well as=20
> > other information
> > associated with it. This information may be used to determine=20
> > whether access
> > to some service should be granted. The peer
> > stores information necessary to choose which secret to use for which
> > service.
> >=20
> > If authentication is based on proof of possession of the private key
> > corresponding to the public key contained within a certificate, the
> > parties store the EAP method to be used and the trust=20
> anchors used to
> > validate the certificates.  The EAP server also stores the peer's
> > identity=20
>=20
> [Joe] why is it necessary that the EAP server store the=20
> peer's identity
> in this case?=20
>=20
> [BA] I guess to associate it with the authorizations.  The=20
> peer identity is
> included in the certificate altSubjectName, so it isn't=20
> needed for other
> reasons.  Is there a way to make that more clear?
>=20
[Joe] I don't think the EAP server needs to store the identity.  It may
store attributes associated with identity, however this could also be
maintained outside the EAP Server or in the certificate itself. I think
we should be clear that in general the EAP server does not perform
authorization itself, but it may have access to authorization/naming
information that can be exported to and used by the lower layer or AAA
layer for authorization.=20

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> This document needs a terminology section.

I agree.

> b. The term has also been used to describe the problem of choosing between
> "points
> of attachment".  For example, there are three APs out there, which one
> should my
> 802.11 interface choose?  In this context, the term "network" may actually
> refer
> to a desire to avoid having to change IP addresses by retaining attachment
> to the same IP network or prefix.  Perhaps the term "handoff
> candidate selection" might better describe this problem?

In fact even this type of selection can be broken down into 2 or 3.
Selecting L1/L2 network, selecting L3 network, and even selecting a (Mobile
IP) home network.

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Alper Yegin wrote:

>>b. The term has also been used to describe the problem of choosing between
>>"points
>>of attachment".  For example, there are three APs out there, which one
>>should my
>>802.11 interface choose?  In this context, the term "network" may actually
>>refer
>>to a desire to avoid having to change IP addresses by retaining attachment
>>to the same IP network or prefix.  Perhaps the term "handoff
>>candidate selection" might better describe this problem?
>>    
>>
>
>In fact even this type of selection can be broken down into 2 or 3.
>Selecting L1/L2 network, selecting L3 network, and even selecting a (Mobile
>IP) home network.
>  
>
Yes. Just looking at the layering may not reveal all details;
even at L2 we have both the selection of a particular access
device, the selection of which access operator's network to
use to begin with, and the selection of various things for
the access control part. At L3 we may or may not have something
to select, depending on scenario and whether some of the
lower-level selections already determine what we will
get at L2.

I like the handoff candidate selection term. But this may
not be the only thing that L2 does.

--Jari

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>    on the client side, different approches vary in how much they rely on


Typo

>                  |         |-------->|         |---------> "isp1.com"

This does not conform to the IETF's policy of using only
example.com when giving examples of DNS names.

Several instances throughout the document, different
domain names.

>    [eronendimacs]

Reference name looks different from the others. Consider
using, e.g., [Eronen04].

>               Mishra, A., "Improving the latnecy of the Probe Phase

Typo

>    tells the network which mediting network it has decided to choose)

Typo (meditating network? :-)

>    Identity.  The Alternative NAI is quaranteed to be an unknown NAI

Typo

>    [RFC2486]  Aboba, B. and M. Beadles, "The Network Access Identifier",
>               RFC 2486, January 1999.

Refer to RFC 4282 instead.

>    [I-D.ietf-radext-rfc2486bis]
>               Aboba, B., "The Network Access Identifier",
>               draft-ietf-radext-rfc2486bis-01 (work in progress),
>               October 2004.

See above.

>    [I-D.adrangi-eap-network-discovery]
>               Adrangi, F., "Mediating Network Discovery in the
>               Extensible Authentication Protocol  (EAP)",
>               draft-adrangi-eap-network-discovery-14 (work in progress),
>               August 2005.

Refer to RFC 4284 instead.

>    [I-D.ietf-ipsec-ikev2]
>               Kaufman, C., "Internet Key Exchange (IKEv2) Protocol",
>               draft-ietf-ipsec-ikev2-17 (work in progress),
>               October 2004.

Refer to RFC 4309 instead.

>    [Pasi58]   Eronen, P., "Network Selection Issues", presentation to
>               EAP WG at IETF 58, November 2003.

Use [Eronen03] or something similar instead, better style.

>    [pri04]    Priest, J., "The State of Wireless London", July 2004.

Capitalize pri04, or maybe Priest04 for consistent style...

>       and another set from his company.

Rewrite this as "... set from the user's employer".

> Arkko & Aboba, Eds.      Expires April 26, 2006                 [Page 3]

The new editors need to be put here, too.


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>    o  There is more than one available network attachment point, and the
>       different points may have different characteristics.


Add ", or even be from different providers".

>    o  The user has multiple sets of credentials.  For instance, the user
>       could have one set of credentials from a public service provider
>       and another set from his company.

Ok.

>    o  There is more than one way to provide roaming between the access
>       and home network, and service parameters or pricing differs
>       between them.  For instance, the access network could have both a
>       direct relationship with the home network and an indirect
>       relationship through a roaming consortium.
>
>
>    o  The roaming relationships between access and home networks are so
>       complicated that current AAA protocols can not route the requests
>       to the home network unaided, just based on the domain in the given
>       Network Access Identifier (NAI) [RFC2486] [I-D.ietf-radext-
>       rfc2486bis].
>
>
>    o  Payload packets get routed or tunneled differently, based on which
>       particular roaming relationship variation is used.  This may have
>       an impact on the available services or their pricing.

Suggest combining these under a roaming effect item.

>    o  Virtual Operators share the same infrastructure, such as wireless
>       access points.


Put this after the first bullet, or maybe as a part of the first bullet.

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>    The Access Network Discovery problem has been extensively studied,
>    see for instance the results of the IETF Seamoby WG, IEEE
>    specifications on 802.11 wireless LAN beaconing and probing process,
>    studies (such as [Fixingapsel]) on the effectiveness of these
>    mechanisms, and so on.


Maybe you could start with a reference to 802.11 as well as
some other (e.g. GSM cellular), then continue with the Seamoby
things; the main body of the work has been imho in the link
layers.

> 2.1  Access Network Discovery

This section is very 802.11 focused. It might make sense
to mention other link layers, too. For instance, cellular
link layers typically employ very network-centric mechanisms
for directing clients to the most suitable attachment point.

> While there
>    is Standards Track RFC specifying the interpretation of the field
>    beyond the NUL character, [I-D.adrangi-eap-network-discovery] is
>    widely expected to be used.

While there is NO Standards Track RFC?

Also, don't say anything about what usage expectations there
are. Just state that the spec exists.

> For instance, the Redirect feature could be used to provide
>    a centralized routing function for AAA, without having to know all
>    home network names in all access networks.

There should be some truth-in-advertising disclaimer
here. We don't know how to set the security up for
that in practice, and even if we did, it might not match
business practices.

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The document may attempt to state too much. Suggest
narrowing the scope a little bit, not claiming this document
has a recommendation on what to do in this area -- just
the definition of problem, as well as some analysis of the
limitations of certain types of solutions.

Specifically, in the abstract:

> The document presents also some
>    existing mechanisms which help solve at least parts of the problem,
>    and gives some suggestions on how to proceed for the rest.


Maybe rewrite this as "The document also provides a discussion of the
limitations of certain classes of solutions, including some that have
been previously defined."

>    Section 4 discusses existing mechanisms which help solve at least
>    parts of the problem.  Section 5 gives some suggestions on how to
>    proceed for the rest.

Same here.

> 2.4  Payload Routing

While interesting, I wonder if we should spend energy looking
at this sub-problem. Could just mention it at the beginning but
not discuss it further.

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Best Sellers Software

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I believe Section 3 would be better cast as "issues" than
"constraints". The topics should be grouped under
subsection items and discussed in more depth. For instance,
there are a few items that relate to AAA protocol operations
(different protocols, both client and server initiated transactions,
etc). Another topic is efficiency constraints, including avoiding
unnecessary polling with multiple networks, packet size
issues etc. A third topic could be backwards compatibility
and deployment considerations.

It would also be useful if specific examples could be
presented, for instance, about the use of RFC 4284
mechanisms taken to extremes and what implications
that would have.

Material from current Sections 4 and 5 could in part be
moved here.


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Perhaps this section could be moved before 3, and
shortened by moving some of the discussion of the
limitations of the existing mechanisms to the issues
Section (currently Section 3, Design Constraints).

>    A number of (small) improvements to payload routing control are
>    currently in progress in the IETF RADEXT WG.  These include better
>    filtering and redirection support [I-D.ietf-radext-ieee802].  RADEXT


Is it really still there? I think there was a discussion on the
filtering parts to be removed... check this.

>    WG is also working on an new revision of the NAI specification
>    [I-D.ietf-radext-rfc2486bis].  This revision clarifies the use of the
>    '!' syntax in a NAI to route requests via specified mediating
>    networks.

Old stuff.

> 4.3  3GPP

This only deals with the I-WLAN functionality of 3GPP
networks. It would be interesting to see a paragraph or
two about the cellular network selection mechanisms,
at least a statement about the principles on which
it operates.

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I would significantly shorten this Section and focus
mainly on concluding some of the main findings of
the problem definition and the dicussion on issues.
Some of the discussion should be moved to the issue
section.

An example of something to keep:

>    o  Nevertheless, many of the problems discussed in this draft are
>       very hard when one considers them in an environment that requires
>       a potentially large number of networks, fast handoffs, and
>       automatic decisions.

An example of something to move to the issue section:

   o  "Phone-book" based approaches such as RFC 3017 appear attractive
      due to their ability to provide sufficient information for
      automatic selection decisions.  However, there is no experience on
      applying such approaches to wireless access.  The number of WLAN
      access points is significantly higher than the number of dial-in
      POPs; the distributed nature of the access network has created a
      more complicated business and roaming structure, and the expected
      rate of change in the information is high.  As noted in [pri04]
      and [I-D.groeting-eap-netselection-results], a large fraction of
      current WLAN access points operate on the default SSID, which may
      make the use of the phone book approach hard.

An example of something to remove:

>    ... the IETF should in any case initiate work that
>    enables support for channel bindings in methods.  Preferably, popular
>    methods should be updated, ensuring compatibility with existing
>    deployments.  The representation of link layer parameters within EAP
>    should utilize a common framework, to make it easier to define new
>    link layers and keep the selection of EAP methods independent of the
>    link layer.  A number of proposals exist in this space, but none of
>    them have yet been adopted by the EAP WG as work items.


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This concludes my review. Overall, I think the document
has a lot of good material, but needs a slightly tighter
scope. For instance, I belive the discussion on payload
routing is something that we could probably leave to
others. Otherwise, the problem definition as such is
in good shape. Where the document needs most work
is in the description of the "issues" or "limitations"
relating to various approaches to network selection.
Material from Sections 3-5 should be gathered in
one place for an in-depth discussion of the issues,
and then the "existing work" and "conclusions" sections
can be shorter. The document should also stop short
of recommending specific IETF (or any other) activities,
and focus on understanding the implications of
the problems and some basic solution approaches.
RFC 4284 should be used as an example when discussing
some of the limitations.

--Jari

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As a start, my understanding of how 3GPP has been using similar terms is
as follows

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1.       Network Selection: selection between the operators/ISPs

2.       Access Technology Selection: selection between access
technologies like 802.11, UMTS etc

3.       Domain Selection: selection between e.g. circuit switched voice
and SIP based IMS for voice delivery

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We can of course choose to define them differently.

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Farooq Bari

Cingular Wireless

Core Network Standards

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farooq.bari@cingular.com

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: Bernard Aboba [mailto:bernard_aboba@hotmail.com]

> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:56 PM

> To: eap@frascone.com

> Subject: [eap] NETSEL Issue: Terminology issues

>=20

> Issue: Terminology issues

> Submitter name: Bernard aboba

> Submitter email address: aboba@internaut.com

> Date Submitted: January 24, 2006

> Reference:

> Document: NETSEL-03

> Comment type: E

> Priority: S

> Section: Various

> Rationale/Explanation of issue:

>=20

> This document needs a terminology section.

>=20

> In particular, the term "network selection" is not defined, and
appears to

> be  used to refer to a number of fundamentally different problems.

>=20

> In looking at usage in other standards bodies (such as IEEE 802.11),
the

> term has been used in a number of contexts, and at times it is hard to
tell

> what context the document is discussing.  For example:

>=20

> a. The term "Network Selection" has sometimes been used to describe
the

> problem of

> choosing between interfaces.  For example, one interface may be CDMA,
and

> another

> may be 802.11;  which interface should be used for outgoing traffic?
I

> would

> propose that we call this "interface selection".

>=20

> b. The term has also been used to describe the problem of choosing
between

> "points

> of attachment".  For example, there are three APs out there, which one

> should my

> 802.11 interface choose?  In this context, the term "network" may
actually

> refer

> to a desire to avoid having to change IP addresses by retaining
attachment

> to the same IP network or prefix.  Perhaps the term "handoff

> candidate selection" might better describe this problem?

>=20

> c. Sometimes the term appears to be used as a synonym for

> "identity selection".   Note that RFC 4284 is entitled "Identity
Selection

> Hints

> for EAP"; the document does not use the term "network selection"
except

> in reference to external work, such as this problem statement
document.

>=20

> Given the confusion caused by conflicting usage of the term "network

> selection" I would recommend that the authors consider adding a
terminology

> section in which this and other terms can be defined.

>=20

>=20

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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Roman"><span
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
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Selection: selection between the operators/ISPs<o:p></o:p></p>

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Technology Selection: selection between access technologies like 802.11, =
UMTS
etc<o:p></o:p></p>

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Roman"><span
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>Domain
Selection: selection between e.g. circuit switched voice and SIP based =
IMS for
voice delivery<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>We can of course choose to define them =
differently.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Farooq Bari<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Cingular =
Wireless<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Core Network =
Standards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>farooq.bari@cingular.com<o:p></o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>+1 425 580 5526<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; </span></font>-----Original =
Message-----</p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; </span></font>From: Bernard Aboba
[mailto:bernard_aboba@hotmail.com]</p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; </span></font>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, =
2006
4:56 PM</p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; </span></font>To: eap@frascone.com</p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; </span></font>Subject: [eap] NETSEL =
Issue: Terminology
issues</p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; Issue: Terminology =
issues</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; Submitter name: Bernard =
aboba</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; Submitter email address: =
aboba@internaut.com</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; Date Submitted: January 24, =
2006</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; Reference:</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; Document: NETSEL-03</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; Comment type: E</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; Priority: S</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; Section: Various</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; Rationale/Explanation of =
issue:</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; This document needs a terminology =
section.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; In particular, the term &quot;network
selection&quot; is not defined, and appears to</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; be&nbsp; used to refer to a number of
fundamentally different problems.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; In looking at usage in other standards =
bodies
(such as IEEE 802.11), the</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; term has been used in a number of =
contexts, and
at times it is hard to tell</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; what context the document is =
discussing.&nbsp;
For example:</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; a. The term &quot;Network =
Selection&quot; has
sometimes been used to describe the</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; problem of</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; choosing between interfaces.&nbsp; For =
example,
one interface may be CDMA, and</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; another</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; may be 802.11;&nbsp; which interface =
should be
used for outgoing traffic?&nbsp; I</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; would</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; propose that we call this =
&quot;interface
selection&quot;.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; b. The term has also been used to =
describe the
problem of choosing between</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; &quot;points</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; of attachment&quot;.&nbsp; For example, =
there are
three APs out there, which one</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; should my</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; 802.11 interface choose?&nbsp; In this =
context,
the term &quot;network&quot; may actually</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; refer</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; to a desire to avoid having to change IP
addresses by retaining attachment</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; to the same IP network or prefix.&nbsp; =
Perhaps
the term &quot;handoff</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; candidate selection&quot; might better =
describe
this problem?</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; c. Sometimes the term appears to be used =
as a
synonym for</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; &quot;identity =
selection&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp; Note
that RFC 4284 is entitled &quot;Identity Selection</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; Hints</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; for EAP&quot;; the document does not use =
the term
&quot;network selection&quot;&nbsp; except</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; in reference to external work, such as =
this
problem statement document.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; Given the confusion caused by =
conflicting usage
of the term &quot;network</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; selection&quot; I would recommend that =
the authors
consider adding a terminology</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&gt; section in which this and other terms =
can be
defined.</span></font></p>

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>Yes. Just looking at the layering may not reveal all details;
>even at L2 we have both the selection of a particular access
>device, the selection of which access operator's network to
>use to begin with, and the selection of various things for
>the access control part. At L3 we may or may not have something
>to select, depending on scenario and whether some of the
>lower-level selections already determine what we will
>get at L2.
>
>I like the handoff candidate selection term. But this may
>not be the only thing that L2 does.

I agree that we need to describe the different aspects of this problem in 
more detail.  With respect to L3 "selection" I think we may also need more 
material.  For example, where would "SSPN selection" fit?


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Hi Joe,=20

-----Original Message-----
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>=20
> [Joe] Why do you want to use the same key in both places?
>=20
> Madjid>>Think the Proxy Mobile IP example. We need a shared
> key between
> the proxy mobile node, PMN (an entity within the network, not the=20
> peer) and home agent, HA. So that the PMN can send authenticated=20
> messages to the HA and vice versa.
>=20

[Joe] Ok, it seems this key would be different than the mobile nodes key
and that the PMNs don't all ned to share the same key.=20


Madjid2>>In the PMIP example, the MN does not need to have access to the
PMIP-key. It is to be shared between the PMN and HA. And yes, the way we
envisioning it, only one PMN is to hold the key (you may want to call
that anchoring).
Please see,=20
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-nakhjiri-pmip-key-01.txt

For more info.

> [Joe] If I understand the current text correctly it is stating that an
> entity should not simultaneously cache and transport a key. =20
> In general
> this is good practice because it prevents reuse of a key, if you are
> going to give someone else a key for a specific purpose you should not
> hold onto it for another use.  While I don't  agree with a MUST NOT
> cache transported keys, I would question why you would want=20
> to do this.
> It seems that the current text allows one to cache a key and=20
> export keys
> derived from it.  Perhaps the text should explicitly say so.=20
>=20
> Madjid>> Well this is an example why you do need to hold on to it (not
> for another use however). I think these strict requirements should be
> put to test for each specific usage scenario.
>=20
[Joe] yes, you need to hold onto the key, but instead of transporting
the "cached" key you transport keys derived from the cached key.  Does
this meet the requirements of your usage scenario? =20

Madjid>>not without unnecessary additional steps. You still need to send
the same key to two different places, regardless of how many levels of
hierarchy you generate, unless you say,=20
I have to generate a parent-key (Kp) and child-key (Kc) and use Kc for
my application (say PMIP). To comply with deleting the transported key,
you will derive Kc from Kp and send the Kc over to one agent, you must
delete Kc now, then you send Kp to another agent and make sure the
second agent knows _EXACTLY_ how to generate Kc from Kp and at the end,
agent1 and agent 2 can share Kc.
All this seems to be very unnecessary, just because we require
transported key to be deleted.

Madjid
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Hi folks,

As promised in the last IETF, we are providing an example of EAP keying
framework could be used to solve the key bootstrapping problem for proxy
Mobile IP. This intends to show an example of how keys from EAP AMSK may
be generated from an EAP method and how AMSK can be used to bootstrap
keys between a proxy Mobile node and a Mobile IP home agent. It also
shows an example of why we think caching a key even after transport may
be needed.

Thanks,

Madjid Nakhjiri

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-nakhjiri-pmip-key-01.txt

Abstract
   This document intends to provide a first pass example of how the EAP=20
   keying framework may be used for bootstrapping keys between two=20
   agents performing a network service such as Proxy Mobile IP function.

   Care is taken so that the solution is aligned as closely as possible=20
   to the guidelines provided by the EAP Keying framework [EAPKEY].=20

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The new channel binding draft I mentioned was submitted.

Until it appears in the IETF I-D repository, a copy is available at:
http://www.opendiameter.org/draft-ohba-eap-channel-binding-00.txt

Yoshihiro Ohba

On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 09:25:51PM -0800, Bernard Aboba wrote:
> It sounds like we have agreed to further develop the text on channel 
> bindings.  Can someone supply text?
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Issue 325: Channel Bindings
> Submitter name: Joe Salowey
> Submitter email address: jsalowey@cisco.com
> Date Submitted: December 1, 2005
> Reference:
> Document: Keying-08
> Comment type: T
> Priority: 1
> Section: 1.3, 1.4
> Rationale/Explanation of issue:
> Section 1.3
> 
> There are two styles of channel bindings that may be supported by EAP
> methods. The text in this section describes exportable channel bindings.
> There is also the approach where the bindings are non exportable.  In
> this case the method does a binary comparison of the channel bindings or
> hash of the channel bindings and fails if the result does not match.  I
> can see the possibility of a method supporting both styles.  Should we
> include both?
> 
> Section 1.4
> 
> Exportable channel binding are references in this section,
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D K D Y Price Climbs 265% In One Month


In the last 4 weeks we have seen an amazing climb in the market from DKDY. 
Their price has climbed over 265% and has had continuous Heavy Trading throughout. 
Just look at these stats.

SYMB0L: DKDY
December 19th: $0.65
Jan 25th High: $1.72
1 Month Increase: 265%
SHORT TERM:  $2.25 - 2.50
Long Term: $3.75 - $4.25
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We are now expecting another jump on Thursday. Members, Thursday morning is the 
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Just review the recent releases below:

January 6 2006

Friday Morning D K D Y announced the agreement to begin nightly banquets in April 2006
that are expected to increase visitors to the park by over 18000 per month, doubling
its annual attendance and creating an increase in re venues by over $3,400,000.00.

Dark Dynamite Inc. has reached a cooperation agreement, for initiating a 
large-scale outdoor Qin dynasty Cultural Dinner Show program for performing Qin 
dynasty dancers and songs in the Theme Park of Qin E - Pang Palace 
(''the T h e m e  P a r k'') from April 2006.

January 7 2006

XI'AN, China, Jan. 4 /Xinhua-PRNewswire/ -- Dark Dynamite Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: DKDY) 
(''DDI'') announces that the construction of the Western 3rd Round City Highway (the ''3rd 
Highway'') in Xi'an is expected to be completed in early 2006. The completed 3rd Highway is 
expected to bring in more tourists to the Theme Park of the Qin E-Pang Palace 
(''E-Pang Palace'').


Get ready for Thursday Members and finish a great trading week this week.




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Here are some pointers to the NIST Key management guidelines.  For EAP to be 
considered for certification with FIPS 140-2, the EAP Key Management 
Framework will need to be compliant with these guidelines, which describe 
the issues for an infrastructure to manage and sustain keying material in 
any enterprise/domain.

It's in 2 parts as follows:

Part 1 covers General Guidance 
http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/nistpubs/800-57/SP800-57-Part1.pdf

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OTC Update

Legendary Palace Theme Park Pushes DKDY Up Another 11.8% In Price Today With A 136% 
Increase In Volume.


SYM: DKDY
Days Open: $1.60
Days Close: $1.80
Sh0rt Term; $2.45 - 2.75
Long Term: $3.75 - $4.25
INDICAT0R;  Strong Buy


Members,

For several weeks we have been keeping you up to date on amazing progress of DKDY. 
We have seen solid, steady growth from $0.65 last month to $1.80 by close Today.

Today we saw another growth of 11.8% in price and 136.8% in volume. The market 
interest in DKDY continues to grow as information about the theme park and its upcoming 
events, pushing the stock to new hights daily.

About the park

1974 brought the discovery of the world famous Terricaota Warriors and Horses and the 
uncovering of the Qin Dynasty's greatest achievements. This site has been China's most 
visited landmark and draws nearly $350,000,000.00 anually.

For thousands of years the Qin Dynasty boasted the legend of the E Pang Palace and was 
believed simply to be a myth. Recent discoveries have unearthed the lobby to the legendary 
Palace and has been developed into a theme park designed to take tourists back in time to 
this once great dynasty.

After having visited the relics and sites of the "Natural History Museum", The Museum of 
Terra Cotta Warriors and Horses; praised as "the eighth major miracle of the world; the 
Mausoleum of Emperor Qin Shi Huang, the City Wall of the Ming Dynasty, the 3000 year old 
Banpo Village Remains, and the Forest of Stone Steles, tourists will now be taken back in 
time to a nightly banquet and dance show held in the palace lobby of the legandary E-Pang 
Palace capable of holding 10,000 visiters which is in the middle of the park.

These nightly banquets are expected to double the yearly visitors to the park and increase 
revenues by $3.4 million annually.

There is no wonder this stock has been taking off, as they draw closer to the new evening 
programs to go in place in early April. 

After todays trading we expect to see the stock continue a buy frezy with a substantial 
increase in price as we close the trading week tomorrow.

Put your buy in for first thing in the morning and take advantage of this upward moving 
company.

Good Trading!



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Presidents Financial
Enters Online Poker Biz.
O.T.C Sym bol: P Z F C
Price: .

Getting Ready To Rumble?
Huge PR Campaign for Monday's Trading. You May Want To "Get In Early" Monday
Morning. Select Small Cap Sto cks Have Been Lining Savvy In vestors Pockets
With Juicy Prof its, As You May Know. You Gotta Time them Right, That's All.
Some of You May Have Scored on Other Poker Stocks Before.


Press Release Headlines(Go Read the Full Stories Now)

1)Presidents Financial Corporation Names Executive Team for Its SweetPrize
Inc. Subsidiary.


2)Presidents Financial Corporation Acquires Provider of Online Poker
Services -- SweetPrize Entertainment Inc.



Can You Make Some Fast Money on This One? Watch This One Trade Monday...





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Presidents Financial
Enters Online Poker Biz.
O.T.C Sym bol: P Z F C
Price: .

Getting Ready To Rumble?
Huge PR Campaign for Monday's Trading. You May Want To "Get In Early" Monday
Morning. Select Small Cap Sto cks Have Been Lining Savvy In vestors Pockets
With Juicy Prof its, As You May Know. You Gotta Time them Right, That's All.
Some of You May Have Scored on Other Poker Stocks Before.


Press Release Headlines(Go Read the Full Stories Now)

1)Presidents Financial Corporation Names Executive Team for Its SweetPrize
Inc. Subsidiary.


2)Presidents Financial Corporation Acquires Provider of Online Poker
Services -- SweetPrize Entertainment Inc.



Can You Make Some Fast Money on This One? Watch This One Trade Monday...





Information within this em  ail contains 4rward l0 0king statements within
the meaning of Section 27A of the Secu rities Act of nineteen thirty three and
Section 21B of the Securi ties Exch ange Act of nineteen thirty four. Any
statements that express or involve discussions with respect to predi ctions,
expec tations, beli efs, pla ns, projec tions, objec tives, goa ls, ass
umptions or future events or performance are not statements of historical fact and may
be 4rward 1o0king statements. Don't rely on them to make a decision. Please
be aware that the Company is not a reporting  comp any registered under the
Secur ities Exch ange Act of 19 34 and there is limited information available about the
comp any. As with many micr ocap st0c ks, today's  com pany has disclosable material
items you need to consider in order to make an informed and intelligent
in_vest ment decision. These items include: no rev enue in its most recent quarter, an
accumulated deficit since its inception, a negative net worth, reliance on loans from
offic ers and direct ors to pay expenses and a nominal ca sh position. It is a
devlopmental stage and not an operating Co mpany. The comp any is going to need fin ancing. If
that fina ncing does not occur, the comp any may not be able to continue as
a going concern in which case you could lose your entire in-ves tment. The
agreement announced above may not be definitive and may not occur. None of the material within this report shall be construed as any kind of inves tment advi ce or solicitat ion. Many of these compa nies are on the verge of bankruptcy. You  can lose all your m0ny by in-ves ting in this st0c k. In compliance with the Securities  Act of 1933, Sec tion 17(b),The publi sher
of this newsle tter is contracted to receive twenty five tho usand do 11ars
from a th ird party, not an offi cer, direc tor or affiliate shar-ehol der
for the circu lation of this rep ort. The party that pays us has a position
in the st ock they will sell at any time without notice. This could have a
negative impact on the price of the stoc k, causing you to lose mo ny. Their
intention is to sell now. All factual information in this report was gathered from public sources, including but not limited to Comp any Pre ss Releas es and Infor mation Stat ements.



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News Break

Price Jumps 23.8% Friday, Global Release Creates Anticipation Of Larger Climb To Come!


NAME:  Conforce International Inc.
SYMBOL: CFRI
Friday Open: $2.10
Friday Close: $2.60
Price Up: 23.8%
Short:  $3.50 - 3.75
Long Term: $5.50 - $6.00
Indicat0r;  STRONG BUY

The Scoop:

Marine shipping containers are the number one mode of transportation worldwide, thus, it is no suprise that cargo alteranates 
from chemical to food-stuffs. Contamination of wood floors, commonly used in the containers, is inevitable due to 
odour and residue absorption. CFRI has developed a new technology in flooring that does not absorb odours or residue, therefore 
elimination the risk of contamination. This allows multi-national container corporations access to a larger fleet of available 
containers to work with eliminating inefficiences and increasing prifits while reducing replacement containers and lossed shipments
due to contamination.

Members, there are an estimated 146 Million containers in use today. With this type of market, you can see why we are excited 
about this revolutionary company. They have the jump on the market and they have just launched news showing they are seriously 
prepaired for easy and immediate distribution. CFRI has signed exclusive manufacturing agreement at strategic locations around 
the globe as they prepair to launch their worldwide marketing campaign.

Just read the news on CFRI and check out their website and jump in this first thing Monday morning. We expect to see this jump 
well above $3.00 early in the trading day. It has already jumped from $2.10 to $2.60 on Friday.

The News:

Conforce International (CFRI) Signs Exclusive Supply Agreement With Industry Giant Royal Group Technologies

TORONTO, ON --     (MARKET WIRE)    -- Conforce International, Inc. (OTC: CFRI), developers of the revolutionary EKO-FLOR, 
are pleased to announce that they have signed an Exclusive Supply Agreement with Royal Group Technologies Ltd. (listed on the 
NYSE and TSX) for the manufacture of the new Conforce composite container flooring product, EKO-FLOR. The deal concludes months 
of negotiations and marks the commencement of preparations for the production of EKO-FLOR, scheduled for launch in mid 2006. 

Royal Group Technologies Ltd. ("Royal") is North America's largest PVC extruder and one of the world's leading polymer-based 
manufacturers with production and distribution in over 60 countries worldwide. With over 9,000 employees, Royal is a global 
leader in technologically superior design and production. 

The agreement with Royal allows Conforce to have EKO-FLOR mass-produced in strategically located production facilities around 
the world. This will ensure consistent new product distribution to current Conforce clients such as the International shipping 
lines, as well as to new clients such as container leasing companies that have expressed interest in the product. The venture 
with Royal also enables Conforce to capitalize on after-market distribution through the planned worldwide network of Conforce 
distributors and sales agents. The alliance with Royal will allow Conforce to maintain, at all times, competitive global pricing. 

Mr. Marino Kulas, President and CEO of Conforce, said that having Royal as their manufacturing partner is the "perfect solution 
to the production end of the EKO-FLOR business." Mr. Kulas added that "the ability to leverage the manufacturing strengths of 
one of the largest producers in the world will enable us to meet anticipated demand. We are confident that Royal's considerable 
manufacturing expertise and worldwide presence will be an asset leading up to and during our global launch." 

About Conforce International Inc.

Management of the Company has been in the container business for over 25 years. In addition to the company's business of 
container handling and storage through its 5,000+ container capacity terminal facility, Conforce has also been engaged in the 
research and development of a proprietary composite product designed to change the way shipping containers are made, worldwide. 
The Company has developed a material that simulates the characteristics of wood while testing lighter, stronger and more cost 
effective. The environmentally friendly product, named EKO-FLOR, is currently in phase one testing with a planned launch in mid 
2006. For more information on the Company, its EKO-FLOR product, or its Terminal Operations, please visit: www.conforce1.com. 

 





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Hi Bernard

I have a question regarding draft-ietf-eap-keying-10.txt

In figure 3, EMSK seems now exported to AAA layer or Lower layer.  Is 
that correct?

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Adobe Photoshop CS2 V 9.0 
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jouni.korhonen@teliasonera.com wrote:

>Would it be enough to discuss about cellular side PLMN
>selection as it is pretty much what the I-WLAN network
>selection tries to copy.
>  
>
I think so. Keep it high level, however. And I
was under the impression that the I-WLAN and
cellular network selections have subtle differences,
and this is in fact the cause of some of the
problems. For instance, in cellular roaming
I thought we are dealing at the level of "cellular
access operator" - "cellular home operator" whereas
in I-WLAN we have added a layer and made it "WLAN
access operator" - "local cellular operator" - "cellular
home operator".

--Jari

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>Would it be enough to discuss about cellular side PLMN selection as it is 
>pretty much what the I-WLAN network selection tries to copy.

I would like to see a general discussion of this, since use of terms like 
"network selection" can leave the reader vague about what is intended.

>I think so. Keep it high level, however. And I
>was under the impression that the I-WLAN and
>cellular network selections have subtle differences,
>and this is in fact the cause of some of the
>problems. For instance, in cellular roaming
>I thought we are dealing at the level of "cellular
>access operator" - "cellular home operator" whereas
>in I-WLAN we have added a layer and made it "WLAN
>access operator" - "local cellular operator" - "cellular
>home operator".

I think that is correct -- but any of these terms is more exact than the 
term "network".   For example, multiple operators may authorize access to 
the same prefix via use of VLAN attributes, for example.  In that situation, 
the use of the term "network selection" can become particularly confusing, 
since it may not be clear whether the thing being selected is the operator, 
the authorized VLAN, or the SSID (which some IEEE 802.11 folks also like to 
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>In figure 3, EMSK seems now exported to AAA layer or Lower layer.  Is that 
>correct?

The text forbidding the export was removed in Issue 320 with the following 
proposed change, so it would appear to me that the export is now allowed.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Change

"The EMSK MUST NOT be provided to the lower layer, nor is it permitted
to pass any quantity to the lower layer from which the EMSK could be
computed without breaking some cryptographic assumption, such as
inverting a one-way function."

To

"The EMSK MUST NOT be provided to an entity outside the EAP server or
peer,  nor is it permitted to pass any quantity to an entity outside the EAP
server or peer from which the EMSK could be computed without breaking some 
cryptographic assumption, such as inverting a one-way function."


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>> In figure 3, EMSK seems now exported to AAA layer or Lower layer.  Is 
>> that correct?
>
>
> The text forbidding the export was removed in Issue 320 with the 
> following proposed change, so it would appear to me that the export is 
> now allowed.

I see. But I was wondering for example in the case of standalone 
authenticator : will only MSK be available to lower layer as usual or 
both (MSK,EMSK) now?

Thanks.

>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
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> Change
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> to pass any quantity to the lower layer from which the EMSK could be
> computed without breaking some cryptographic assumption, such as
> inverting a one-way function."
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> To
>
> "The EMSK MUST NOT be provided to an entity outside the EAP server or
> peer,  nor is it permitted to pass any quantity to an entity outside 
> the EAP
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[Joe] In order to preserve mode independence the EMSK must not be
directly consumed by the lower layer.  The lower layer must not require
direct access to the EMSK to function.  However, the lower layer may
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>>The text forbidding the export was removed in Issue 320 with the following 
>>proposed change, so it would appear to me that the export is now allowed.
>
>I see. But I was wondering for example in the case of standalone 
>authenticator : will only MSK be available to lower layer as usual or both 
>(MSK,EMSK) now?

Note that the language relating to transport of the EMSK has not been 
touched so that restriction remains.

In the passthrough case, the authenticator lower layer will not receive the 
EMSK, whereas it will receive it in the standalone case.  Since the peer 
does not know which case is being run, this implies that the lower layer 
cannot derive the TSKs directly from the EMSK, but only from a quantity that 
is always available within the authenticator lower layer.

As long as the keys that the lower layer depends on are always available on 
the authenticator, this doesn't violate mode independence from the  peer's 
point of view.  I'm not sure it necessarily violates it on the authenticator 
either, as long as the EMSK is destroyed after computation of the AMSK.  If 
that is done, the end cryptographic state on the authenticator is the same 
in either the pass-through or standalone case.

One advantage of this approach is that it keeps implementation of 
cryptography out of the EAP layer.  Allowing cryptographic operations in the 
EAP layer is a problem because EAP does not  support cryptographic 
negotiation, so that negotiation of cryptographic algorithms such as PRFs 
would require changes to existing EAP methods.  By doing those calculations 
in the lower layer, instead, the Secure Association Protocol can negotiate 
the cryptographic algorithms and this problem is avoided.


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>[Joe] In order to preserve mode independence the EMSK must not be
>directly consumed by the lower layer.  The lower layer must not require
>direct access to the EMSK to function.  However, the lower layer may
>rely upon keys derived from the EMSK.

I'm confused.  You submitted a change to remove the material from the 
document that relates to lower layer usage of the EMSK.  Your change was 
accepted, so the document no longer restricts usage of the EMSK by the lower 
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Agreed. And no, at least I don't want to eliminate
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>[Joe] I must not have been clear. That was not my intent, which change
>request was this?  The EMSK must not be directly used by the lower
>layer.  If it is then you might as well just eliminate it since it
>serves the same purpose as the MSK.

Issue 320, which you submitted on December 1, 2005 removes the prohibition 
on lower layers obtaining the EMSK.

It is possible to say that the EMSK "must not be directly used by the lower 
layer" without prohibiting lower layer access to the EMSK.  So those two 
statements are not necessarily inconsistent.

For example, the lower layer could be allowed to obtain the EMSK but be 
prohibited from transporting it or using it directly.

The difference is subtle, but potentially important for issues such as 
crypto-agility.  Allowing the lower layer to obtain the EMSK enables the 
lower layer to negotiate the PRFs used in AMSK generation, whereas this is 
not possible if AMSK generation is handled in the EAP layer.  It also 
maintains backward compatibility so that a lower layer using the AMSK can be 
introduced without requiring changes to existing EAP implementations.

As long as the EAP peer does not need to be aware of whether the 
authenticator is configured in standalone or pass-through mode, I think that 
the requirements of mode independence have been met.


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Bernard Aboba wrote:

>>> The text forbidding the export was removed in Issue 320 with the 
>>> following proposed change, so it would appear to me that the export 
>>> is now allowed.
>>
>>
>> I see. But I was wondering for example in the case of standalone 
>> authenticator : will only MSK be available to lower layer as usual or 
>> both (MSK,EMSK) now?
>
>
> Note that the language relating to transport of the EMSK has not been 
> touched so that restriction remains.

Yes i noticed that. My thought was  that,  depending on the case, 
authenticator lower layer would receive MSK, EMSK or not. Your answers 
confirm that.

>
> In the passthrough case, the authenticator lower layer will not 
> receive the EMSK, whereas it will receive it in the standalone case.  
> Since the peer does not know which case is being run, this implies 
> that the lower layer cannot derive the TSKs directly from the EMSK, 
> but only from a quantity that is always available within the 
> authenticator lower layer.

In the case of pass-through authenticator, MSK is available, but when 
you say quantity (of EMSK I guess),  you mean any AMSK derived from EMSK?? .

>
> As long as the keys that the lower layer depends on are always 
> available on the authenticator, this doesn't violate mode independence 
> from the  peer's point of view.  I'm not sure it necessarily violates 
> it on the authenticator either, as long as the EMSK is destroyed after 
> computation of the AMSK.  

Well, actually, lower layer authenticator implementation should expect 
(MSK,EMSK) in the case EAP method is executed by the standalone 
authenticator or (MSK,AMSK) in the case EAP method is executed by 
backend authentication server. If it receives (MSK,EMSK) should create 
AMSK and delete EMSK. If it receives (MSK,AMSK) , that's all, correct?

> If that is done, the end cryptographic state on the authenticator is 
> the same in either the pass-through or standalone case.

About the end state,  I agree.

>
> One advantage of this approach is that it keeps implementation of 
> cryptography out of the EAP layer.  Allowing cryptographic operations 
> in the EAP layer is a problem because EAP does not  support 
> cryptographic negotiation, so that negotiation of cryptographic 
> algorithms such as PRFs would require changes to existing EAP 
> methods.  By doing those calculations in the lower layer, instead, the 
> Secure Association Protocol can negotiate the cryptographic algorithms 
> and this problem is avoided.

This makes sense for me. Personally I think clarifying this in some 
place might be useful.

Thanks.

>
>
>
>


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>>I see. But I was wondering for example in the case of standalone 
>>authenticator : will only MSK be available to lower layer as usual or 
>>both (MSK,EMSK) now?
>>
>>    
>>
>
>[Joe] In order to preserve mode independence the EMSK must not be
>directly consumed by the lower layer.  The lower layer must not require
>direct access to the EMSK to function.  However, the lower layer may
>rely upon keys derived from the EMSK.  
>  
>
Then my question is what layer is going to derive keys (i.e. AMSK) from 
EMSK?   EAP layer?.

>
>  
>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>      
>>>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------
>>--------------------------------------------------------------
>>------------ 
>>    
>>
>>>Change
>>>
>>>"The EMSK MUST NOT be provided to the lower layer, nor is 
>>>      
>>>
>>it permitted
>>    
>>
>>>to pass any quantity to the lower layer from which the EMSK could be
>>>computed without breaking some cryptographic assumption, such as
>>>inverting a one-way function."
>>>
>>>To
>>>
>>>"The EMSK MUST NOT be provided to an entity outside the EAP 
>>>      
>>>
>>server or
>>    
>>
>>>peer,  nor is it permitted to pass any quantity to an 
>>>      
>>>
>>entity outside 
>>    
>>
>>>the EAP
>>>server or peer from which the EMSK could be computed 
>>>      
>>>
>>without breaking 
>>    
>>
>>>some cryptographic assumption, such as inverting a one-way 
>>>      
>>>
>>function."
>>    
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernard Aboba [mailto:bernard_aboba@hotmail.com]=20
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:37 PM
> To: Salowey, Joe
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> Subject: RE: [eap] Strawman -10
>=20
> >[Joe] I must not have been clear. That was not my intent,=20
> which change
> >request was this?  The EMSK must not be directly used by the lower
> >layer.  If it is then you might as well just eliminate it since it
> >serves the same purpose as the MSK.
>=20
> Issue 320, which you submitted on December 1, 2005 removes=20
> the prohibition=20
> on lower layers obtaining the EMSK.
>=20
> It is possible to say that the EMSK "must not be directly=20
> used by the lower=20
> layer" without prohibiting lower layer access to the EMSK. =20
> So those two=20
> statements are not necessarily inconsistent.
>=20

[Joe] yes. From an implementation point of view it is possible, however
architecturally there needs to be separation. In a particular local
authenticator implementation the lower layer may have access to the
EMSK, however things should not be defined such that a lower layer must
have access to the EMSK.=20


> For example, the lower layer could be allowed to obtain the=20
> EMSK but be=20
> prohibited from transporting it or using it directly.
>=20
> The difference is subtle, but potentially important for=20
> issues such as=20
> crypto-agility.  Allowing the lower layer to obtain the EMSK=20
> enables the=20
> lower layer to negotiate the PRFs used in AMSK generation,=20
> whereas this is=20
> not possible if AMSK generation is handled in the EAP layer.  It also=20
> maintains backward compatibility so that a lower layer using=20
> the AMSK can be=20
> introduced without requiring changes to existing EAP implementations.
>=20
> As long as the EAP peer does not need to be aware of whether the=20
> authenticator is configured in standalone or pass-through=20
> mode, I think that=20
> the requirements of mode independence have been met.

[Joe] This worries me.  It ties the key derivation to the lower layer,
which could be problematic.  A goal of the EMSK to AMSK derivation is to
contain the problem of a misbehaving lower layer to the lower layer
itself.  A lower layer that determines the key derivation algorithm
conflicts with this goal.  What happens if there are multiple AMSKs
being derived for different purposes? Who decides the KDF?  =20

I think I would prefer to see a default KDF specified with the
capability of an EAP method to override it with a KDF of its own. =20

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Subject: RE: [eap] Strawman -10
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:31:19 -0800
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From: "Salowey, Joe" <jsalowey@cisco.com>
To: "Rafa Marin Lopez" <rafa@dif.um.es>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rafa Marin Lopez [mailto:rafa@dif.um.es]=20
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:47 PM
> To: Salowey, Joe
> Cc: Bernard Aboba; eap@frascone.com
> Subject: Re: [eap] Strawman -10
>=20
>=20
> >>I see. But I was wondering for example in the case of standalone=20
> >>authenticator : will only MSK be available to lower layer=20
> as usual or=20
> >>both (MSK,EMSK) now?
> >>
> >>   =20
> >>
> >
> >[Joe] In order to preserve mode independence the EMSK must not be
> >directly consumed by the lower layer.  The lower layer must=20
> not require
> >direct access to the EMSK to function.  However, the lower layer may
> >rely upon keys derived from the EMSK. =20
> > =20
> >
> Then my question is what layer is going to derive keys (i.e.=20
> AMSK) from=20
> EMSK?   EAP layer?.
>=20
[Joe] I would say the EAP layer (if there is such a thing).  If you
don't like the EAP layer then it would be something like an EMSK
management layer or component.  Not the lower layer.=20


> >
> > =20
> >
> >>Thanks.
> >>
> >>   =20
> >>
> >>>     =20
> >>>
> >>--------------------------------------------------------------
> >>--------------------------------------------------------------
> >>------------=20
> >>   =20
> >>
> >>>Change
> >>>
> >>>"The EMSK MUST NOT be provided to the lower layer, nor is=20
> >>>     =20
> >>>
> >>it permitted
> >>   =20
> >>
> >>>to pass any quantity to the lower layer from which the=20
> EMSK could be
> >>>computed without breaking some cryptographic assumption, such as
> >>>inverting a one-way function."
> >>>
> >>>To
> >>>
> >>>"The EMSK MUST NOT be provided to an entity outside the EAP=20
> >>>     =20
> >>>
> >>server or
> >>   =20
> >>
> >>>peer,  nor is it permitted to pass any quantity to an=20
> >>>     =20
> >>>
> >>entity outside=20
> >>   =20
> >>
> >>>the EAP
> >>>server or peer from which the EMSK could be computed=20
> >>>     =20
> >>>
> >>without breaking=20
> >>   =20
> >>
> >>>some cryptographic assumption, such as inverting a one-way=20
> >>>     =20
> >>>
> >>function."
> >>   =20
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     =20
> >>>
> >>--=20
> >>------------------------------------------------------
> >>Rafael Marin Lopez
> >>Faculty of Computer Science-University of Murcia
> >>30071 Murcia - Spain
> >>Telf: +34968367645    e-mail: rafa@dif.um.es
> >>------------------------------------------------------
> >>
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> >>   =20
> >>
> >
> >
> > =20
> >
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Rafael Marin Lopez
> Faculty of Computer Science-University of Murcia
> 30071 Murcia - Spain
> Telf: +34968367645    e-mail: rafa@dif.um.es
> ------------------------------------------------------
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