From nobody Thu Oct 2 11:35:47 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB0B1A1B19; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 11:35:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D-E5Vo06P6ei; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 11:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361261A1B09; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 11:35:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.6.3.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141002183545.7054.63364.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:35:45 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/FgQ89NF3nJm1LaAycMQYStCf_48 Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data-23.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2014 18:35:47 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : Additional Data related to an Emergency Call Authors : Brian Rosen Hannes Tschofenig Roger Marshall Randall Gellens James Winterbottom Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data-23.txt Pages : 102 Date : 2014-10-02 Abstract: When an emergency call is sent to a Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP), the device that sends it, as well as any application service provider in the path of the call, or access network provider through which the call originated may have information about the call, the caller or the location which the PSAP may be able to use. This document describes data structures and a mechanism to convey such data to the PSAP. The mechanism uses a Uniform Resource Identifier (URI), which may point to either an external resource or an object in the body of the SIP message. The mechanism thus allows the data to be passed by reference (when the URI points to an external resource) or by value (when it points into the body of the message). This follows the tradition of prior emergency services standardization work where data can be conveyed by value within the call signaling (i.e., in body of the SIP message) and also by reference. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data-23 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data-23 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Oct 2 12:03:46 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92841A1B4B for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 12:03:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.787 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.787 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.786, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JRi_5FMBBlTE for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 12:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD1681A1B16 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 12:01:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1412276515; x=1443812515; h=x-ojodefuego:message-id:x-mailer:date:to:from:subject:cc: content-type; bh=Aoe7PhXXGbrFM0lw2B+im9wlA+mnl8siTUzBLIMKX8c=; b=KPTR499MizqeU6xvMXKp4LOTfCOcRn1fSfn+lFjXX2RZQFZ9mZQ0FQT1 YQ/A9qT0h7rSUhN6nnthI0b+fzE3jO8jWxWhxVDWcOlxsALZ6tcX2+OiD kYE8GaBvzCI14ktCna6ZnBFyW+F3bYlTX5cb5RMu1YtroDL/rq0GmX5oj U=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5600,1067,7578"; a="163198689" Received: from ironmsg02-l.qualcomm.com ([172.30.48.16]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 02 Oct 2014 12:01:55 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.04,640,1406617200"; d="scan'208";a="360321181" Received: from plus.qualcomm.com ([10.52.255.8]) by ironmsg02-L.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 02 Oct 2014 12:01:50 -0700 Received: from ironmsg02-L.qualcomm.com (ironmsg02-L.qualcomm.com [172.30.48.16]) by plus.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id s92J1nVx010150; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 12:01:49 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.04,640,1406617200"; d="scan'208";a="360320870" X-ojodefuego: yes Received: from myvpn-l-1168.ras.qualcomm.com (HELO [99.111.97.136]) ([10.64.132.144]) by ironmsg02-L.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 02 Oct 2014 12:01:39 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 11:48:21 -0700 To: ecrit@ietf.org From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/JN_3t2TqaZ47fU4YymoFI3IYZwE Cc: Brian Rosen Subject: [Ecrit] Updated additional-data, fixes all WGLC issues X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2014 19:03:45 -0000 Hi ECRITers, draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data-23 is now available. This version addresses all issues identified during WGLC. I want to especially thank Guy for his very detailed review and for finding so many inconsistencies and other issues (which have now all been addressed). Link to latest version: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data There is a handy diff tool available at the top of this page: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data/history/ -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- "I am not a number! I am a free numeric variable!" 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NASANEXM01E.na.qualcomm.com (10.46.201.191) To NASANEXM02C.na.qualcomm.com (10.46.200.74) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/V6XUgkgdqhRQE9mhEBDBp5j5eTs Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Additional data X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 21:52:00 -0000 Hi Chris, Thanks for catching this. I agree that the 'purpose' attribute is not meaningful when passing additional data by reference within 'provided-by' within a PIDF-LO (both because multiple data blocks may be contained in a single 'EmergencyCallDataValue' element (making a single 'purpose' attribute confusing) and also because there is no reference to be followed; 'purpose' is used when there is a reference (either external or internal (CID)). I'll fix the example. At 10:40 AM +0000 10/7/14, Chris Santer wrote: > Content-Language: en-US > Content-Type: multipart/related; > boundary="_004_9e9112b90ae14378b11a868b31bcb773BLUPR07MB020namprd07pro_"; > type="multipart/alternative" > > I have a question about implementing the EmergencyCallDataValue > element. The schema on [Page 54] is consistent with the example in > Figure 14, but does not match the description in section 5.3. We > have implemented using the schema and example in Figure 14 and > ignored section 5.3 at this time, but would like to know for sure > which one is correct. Section 5.3 includes the purpose attribute, > which looks more like a carryover from the > EmergencyCallDataReference element and does not belong on the > EmergencyCallDataValue element (no purpose attribute in the schema > or Figure 14). > > Thanks, > Chris Santer > > Chris Santer ? Software Development > 2323 W. Fifth Avenue | Suite 210 | Columbus, OH 43204 > 614.429.3384 ext. 228 | 888.800.4003 | www.DDTi.net > > > > > Content-Type: image/png; name="image001.png" > Content-Description: image001.png > Content-Disposition: inline; filename="image001.png"; size=8681; > creation-date="Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:40:47 GMT"; > modification-date="Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:40:47 GMT" > Content-ID: > > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- There are some micro-organisms that exhibit characteristics of both plants and animals. When exposed to light they undergo photosynthesis; and when the lights go out, they turn into animals. But then again, don't we all? From nobody Tue Oct 7 15:13:17 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA92E1A894D for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 15:13:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.787 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.787 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.786, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a1lduv5lcQpN for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 15:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolverine01.qualcomm.com (wolverine01.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 066AF1A892A for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 15:13:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qti.qualcomm.com; i=@qti.qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1412719994; x=1444255994; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:to:from:subject: mime-version; bh=vEDFig0qJxfy1GlT3e2ayrb6P+VX+NjkeAC3ddF6ueg=; b=eUkyIcm+eQKdw4owowsUTqHMM8Nlh1cDo5E4jrffnvmJ9n4wpSv0XR3s eIrpVwucAb2z0L79hm9U44AyulDG0YO7pMMsG3ZgS4cffnYBuWBOMGm9t libHZAQA3fnUv2px0cnqp/KDmzw1zHycbD6li9dvrwnvmjw7VQDNMZpkl 4=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5600,1067,7584"; a="72658037" Received: from ironmsg03-l.qualcomm.com ([172.30.48.18]) by wolverine01.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 07 Oct 2014 15:12:43 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.04,673,1406617200"; d="scan'208";a="750688690" Received: from nasanexhc03.na.qualcomm.com ([10.46.200.142]) by Ironmsg03-L.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 07 Oct 2014 15:12:42 -0700 Received: from nasanexm02e.na.qualcomm.com (129.46.53.254) by NASANEXHC03.na.qualcomm.com (10.46.200.142) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.181.6; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 15:12:42 -0700 Received: from [10.2.12.186] (10.80.80.8) by nasanexm02e.na.qualcomm.com (129.46.53.254) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.913.22; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 15:12:29 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <9e9112b90ae14378b11a868b31bcb773@BLUPR07MB020.namprd07.prod.outlook.c om> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 15:12:23 -0700 To: Randall Gellens , Chris Santer , "ecrit@ietf.org" From: Randall Gellens MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Originating-IP: [10.80.80.8] X-ClientProxiedBy: NASANEXM01C.na.qualcomm.com (129.46.53.236) To nasanexm02e.na.qualcomm.com (129.46.53.254) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/Qc3drOyJtr7Flaq1F2StSUVcjdE Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Additional data X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 22:13:16 -0000 Oops, I meant "by value" -- sorry. At 2:43 PM -0700 10/7/14, Randall Gellens wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Thanks for catching this. I agree that the 'purpose' attribute is > not meaningful when passing additional data by reference within > 'provided-by' within a PIDF-LO (both because multiple data blocks > may be contained in a single 'EmergencyCallDataValue' element > (making a single 'purpose' attribute confusing) and also because > there is no reference to be followed; 'purpose' is used when there > is a reference (either external or internal (CID)). > > I'll fix the example. > > At 10:40 AM +0000 10/7/14, Chris Santer wrote: > >> Content-Language: en-US >> Content-Type: multipart/related; >> >> boundary="_004_9e9112b90ae14378b11a868b31bcb773BLUPR07MB020namprd07pro_"; >> type="multipart/alternative" >> >> I have a question about implementing the EmergencyCallDataValue >> element. The schema on [Page 54] is consistent with the example in >> Figure 14, but does not match the description in section 5.3. We >> have implemented using the schema and example in Figure 14 and >> ignored section 5.3 at this time, but would like to know for sure >> which one is correct. Section 5.3 includes the purpose attribute, >> which looks more like a carryover from the >> EmergencyCallDataReference element and does not belong on the >> EmergencyCallDataValue element (no purpose attribute in the schema >> or Figure 14). >> >> Thanks, >> Chris Santer >> >> Chris Santer ? Software Development >> 2323 W. Fifth Avenue | Suite 210 | Columbus, OH 43204 >> 614.429.3384 ext. 228 | 888.800.4003 | www.DDTi.net >> >> >> >> >> Content-Type: image/png; name="image001.png" >> Content-Description: image001.png >> Content-Disposition: inline; filename="image001.png"; size=8681; >> creation-date="Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:40:47 GMT"; >> modification-date="Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:40:47 GMT" >> Content-ID: >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ecrit mailing list >> Ecrit@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit > > > -- > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- > There are some micro-organisms that exhibit characteristics of both > plants and animals. When exposed to light they undergo photosynthesis; > and when the lights go out, they turn into animals. But then again, > don't we all? > > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- 1.) If the document should exist, it doesn't. 2.) If the document does exist, it's out of date. 3.) Only documentation for useless programs transcends the first two laws. From nobody Thu Oct 9 16:04:31 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E291A9029; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 16:04:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kMeU-YVwHfFw; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 16:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376E31A8AA1; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 16:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.6.3.p4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141009230426.2889.81040.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 16:04:26 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/5WLYGTxh5ZdRqEQWJiJVg1tNWp0 Cc: ecrit chair , ecrit mailing list , RFC Editor Subject: [Ecrit] Document Action: 'Extensions to the Emergency Services Architecture for dealing with Unauthenticated and Unauthorized Devices' to Informational RFC (draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access-10.txt) X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 23:04:29 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Extensions to the Emergency Services Architecture for dealing with Unauthenticated and Unauthorized Devices' (draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access-10.txt) as Informational RFC This document is the product of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Richard Barnes and Alissa Cooper. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access/ Technical Summary The IETF emergency services architecture assumes that the calling device has acquired rights to use the access network or that no authentication is required for the access network, such as for public wireless access points. Subsequent protocol interactions, such as obtaining location information, learning the address of the Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP) and the emergency call itself are largely decoupled from the underlying network access procedures. In some cases, however, the device does not have these credentials for network access, does not have a VoIP service provider, or the credentials have become invalid, e.g., because the user has exhausted their prepaid balance or the account has expired. This document provides a problem statement, introduces terminology and describes an extension for the base IETF emergency services architecture to address these scenarios. Working Group Summary This document represents strong work group consensus and broad group participation in developing the solution provided. There were no significant controversies that were not overcome during the development stage. A successful document development history is documented in the ecrit email list archive. Document Quality No existing implementations are known to exist. Several vendors were involved in sponsoring the document originally, and have stayed involved in the development and review of the document. Personnel Document shepherd: Roger Marshall (ECRIT co-chair) Responsible Area Director: Richard Barnes (RAI AD) From nobody Fri Oct 10 12:30:43 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DB51ACE8E for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:30:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nQUvCSi-mjpo for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2on0096.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.100.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FC2F1ACE88 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BN1PR07MB024.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.255.225.42) by BN1PR07MB037.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.255.224.145) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1049.19; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 19:30:34 +0000 Received: from BN1PR07MB021.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.255.225.39) by BN1PR07MB024.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.255.225.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1044.10; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 19:30:32 +0000 Received: from BN1PR07MB021.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.6.48]) by BN1PR07MB021.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.6.48]) with mapi id 15.00.1044.008; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 19:30:31 +0000 From: Chris Santer To: Randall Gellens , "ecrit@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Ecrit] Additional data Thread-Index: AQHP4njt/SIne88JP02bStlM0fK1fpwlMpiAgASJa+A= Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 19:30:31 +0000 Message-ID: <20e77c9a654943a2886636d16a6a9310@BN1PR07MB021.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> References: <9e9112b90ae14378b11a868b31bcb773@BLUPR07MB020.namprd07.prod.outlook.c om> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [4.53.197.18] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BN1PR07MB024;UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-forefront-prvs: 03607C04F0 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(979002)(6009001)(501574003)(377454003)(479174003)(164054003)(51704005)(52604005)(24454002)(13464003)(189002)(199003)(74316001)(87936001)(76176999)(76576001)(99396003)(54356999)(31966008)(2656002)(85306004)(108616004)(33646002)(120916001)(85852003)(92566001)(86362001)(101416001)(19580405001)(46102003)(19580395003)(15975445006)(64706001)(20776003)(80022003)(15202345003)(95666004)(106116001)(122556002)(21056001)(97736003)(99286002)(50986999)(76482002)(105586002)(106356001)(4396001)(77096002)(107046002)(66066001)(107886001)(2501002)(40100003)(24736002)(80792004)(969003)(989001)(999001)(1009001)(1019001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:BN1PR07MB024; H:BN1PR07MB021.namprd07.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:ovrnspm; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: ddti.net does not designate permitted sender hosts) authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=CSanter@ddti.net; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BN1PR07MB037; X-OriginatorOrg: ddti.net Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/nAUAGMDgwDpf-CJutgV2k7w9HXA Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Additional data X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 19:30:41 -0000 Hi Randall, Thank you! I did have another item I'd like to bring up. RFC4119 allows one "provided-by" element, and this belongs in the namespace= "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:pidf:geopriv10". Additional Data (23) seems to attempt to either move "provided-by" into a d= ifferent namespace (urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:EmergencyCallData), or add a new= "provided-by" element in a different namespace (urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:Eme= rgencyCallData). This seems to be counter to the intent of RFC4119 and the = stated goal (section 5.2) of transmitting additional data "within a 'Provid= ed-By' element of a PIDF-LO".=20 What the Additional Data (23) document seems to imply, with its schema and = examples, is that the following is valid: =20 But I think it should probably be something more like this: -----Original Message----- From: Randall Gellens [mailto:randy@qti.qualcomm.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 6:12 PM To: Randall Gellens; Chris Santer; ecrit@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Additional data Oops, I meant "by value" -- sorry. At 2:43 PM -0700 10/7/14, Randall Gellens wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Thanks for catching this. I agree that the 'purpose' attribute is=20 > not meaningful when passing additional data by reference within=20 > 'provided-by' within a PIDF-LO (both because multiple data blocks may=20 > be contained in a single 'EmergencyCallDataValue' element (making a=20 > single 'purpose' attribute confusing) and also because there is no=20 > reference to be followed; 'purpose' is used when there is a reference=20 > (either external or internal (CID)). > > I'll fix the example. > > At 10:40 AM +0000 10/7/14, Chris Santer wrote: > >> Content-Language: en-US >> Content-Type: multipart/related; >>=20 >> boundary=3D"_004_9e9112b90ae14378b11a868b31bcb773BLUPR07MB020namprd07pr= o_"; >> type=3D"multipart/alternative" >> >> I have a question about implementing the EmergencyCallDataValue=20 >> element. The schema on [Page 54] is consistent with the example in=20 >> Figure 14, but does not match the description in section 5.3. We have=20 >> implemented using the schema and example in Figure 14 and ignored=20 >> section 5.3 at this time, but would like to know for sure which one=20 >> is correct. Section 5.3 includes the purpose attribute, which looks=20 >> more like a carryover from the EmergencyCallDataReference element and=20 >> does not belong on the EmergencyCallDataValue element (no purpose=20 >> attribute in the schema or Figure 14). >> >> Thanks, >> Chris Santer >> >> Chris Santer ? Software Development >> 2323 W. Fifth Avenue | Suite 210 | Columbus, OH 43204 >> 614.429.3384 ext. 228 | 888.800.4003 |=20 >> www.DDTi.net >> >> >> >> >> Content-Type: image/png; name=3D"image001.png" >> Content-Description: image001.png >> Content-Disposition: inline; filename=3D"image001.png"; size=3D8681; >> creation-date=3D"Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:40:47 GMT"; >> modification-date=3D"Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:40:47 GMT" >> Content-ID: >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ecrit mailing list >> Ecrit@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit > > > -- > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- There are some=20 > micro-organisms that exhibit characteristics of both plants and=20 > animals. When exposed to light they undergo photosynthesis; and when=20 > the lights go out, they turn into animals. But then again, don't we=20 > all? > > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- 1.) If the document should exist, it doesn't. 2.) If the document does exist, it's out of date. 3.) Only documentation for useless programs transcends the first two laws. From nobody Fri Oct 10 12:36:09 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99ADF1ACF18 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:36:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qQSkXBU0y9ab for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pa0-x22c.google.com (mail-pa0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 718271ACF16 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id et14so2318986pad.17 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:36:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=4G6P0XJoBClWUN7QhlnhZbcjVzaM9d6MiGBBNCcWjbs=; b=MlJa/+n9BE574T6uPdyqkScGcegpvqygP33zfTAfJBuMJ19dG57VEtcMf1QtfeQTIw n/wGM2bGSrr80L9qrT6VZe2EgHeKu6AHpZOGP4L64YlDjwDWDfbLLR4bQAVwhI6SqiQs ytwUehVkW2Tr4O9Hm6gF7wwsoPvb00buhxVD8evLl5vny/wmxdiEfzkCpFxNpVm4+2Xq sZFHnFGzN++Ys2tV//6S2TaBUWIuVN28OfUoreLGnNPDmIhKSpph/1w5Ps8j1vRkQ9nL HhBkwiPHj8Iot4cCmDkfa24xqNVGxEXtZqiLFuorMQQr1zRc6dbaQbytcy62E0iCPpKP +aAQ== X-Received: by 10.66.145.133 with SMTP id su5mr7615825pab.11.1412969762817; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.171.120.192] ([120.154.19.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id nb4sm4198753pdb.73.2014.10.10.12.36.01 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:36:01 -0700 (PDT) References: <9e9112b90ae14378b11a868b31bcb773@BLUPR07MB020.namprd07.prod.outlook.c om> <20e77c9a654943a2886636d16a6a9310@BN1PR07MB021.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <20e77c9a654943a2886636d16a6a9310@BN1PR07MB021.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D201) From: James Winterbottom Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 06:35:55 +1100 To: Chris Santer Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/rJ0spugEPEM4BtVLAw3cszLu-wI Cc: Randall Gellens , "ecrit@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Additional data X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 19:36:06 -0000 Good catch Chris. Your correction is correct. Cheers James Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Oct 2014, at 6:30 am, Chris Santer wrote: >=20 > Hi Randall, >=20 > Thank you! >=20 > I did have another item I'd like to bring up. >=20 > RFC4119 allows one "provided-by" element, and this belongs in the namespac= e "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:pidf:geopriv10". >=20 > Additional Data (23) seems to attempt to either move "provided-by" into a d= ifferent namespace (urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:EmergencyCallData), or add a new "= provided-by" element in a different namespace (urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:Emerge= ncyCallData). This seems to be counter to the intent of RFC4119 and the stat= ed goal (section 5.2) of transmitting additional data "within a 'Provided-By= ' element of a PIDF-LO".=20 >=20 > What the Additional Data (23) document seems to imply, with its schema and= examples, is that the following is valid: >=20 > > > >=20 > But I think it should probably be something more like this: >=20 > > > >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Randall Gellens [mailto:randy@qti.qualcomm.com]=20 > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 6:12 PM > To: Randall Gellens; Chris Santer; ecrit@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Additional data >=20 > Oops, I meant "by value" -- sorry. >=20 > At 2:43 PM -0700 10/7/14, Randall Gellens wrote: >=20 >> Hi Chris, >>=20 >> Thanks for catching this. I agree that the 'purpose' attribute is=20 >> not meaningful when passing additional data by reference within=20 >> 'provided-by' within a PIDF-LO (both because multiple data blocks may=20 >> be contained in a single 'EmergencyCallDataValue' element (making a=20 >> single 'purpose' attribute confusing) and also because there is no=20 >> reference to be followed; 'purpose' is used when there is a reference=20 >> (either external or internal (CID)). >>=20 >> I'll fix the example. >>=20 >> At 10:40 AM +0000 10/7/14, Chris Santer wrote: >>=20 >>> Content-Language: en-US >>> Content-Type: multipart/related; >>>=20 >>> boundary=3D"_004_9e9112b90ae14378b11a868b31bcb773BLUPR07MB020namprd07= pro_"; >>> type=3D"multipart/alternative" >>>=20 >>> I have a question about implementing the EmergencyCallDataValue=20 >>> element. The schema on [Page 54] is consistent with the example in=20 >>> Figure 14, but does not match the description in section 5.3. We have=20= >>> implemented using the schema and example in Figure 14 and ignored=20 >>> section 5.3 at this time, but would like to know for sure which one=20 >>> is correct. Section 5.3 includes the purpose attribute, which looks=20 >>> more like a carryover from the EmergencyCallDataReference element and=20= >>> does not belong on the EmergencyCallDataValue element (no purpose=20 >>> attribute in the schema or Figure 14). >>>=20 >>> Thanks, >>> Chris Santer >>>=20 >>> Chris Santer ? Software Development >>> 2323 W. Fifth Avenue | Suite 210 | Columbus, OH 43204 >>> 614.429.3384 ext. 228 | 888.800.4003 |=20 >>> www.DDTi.net >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Content-Type: image/png; name=3D"image001.png" >>> Content-Description: image001.png >>> Content-Disposition: inline; filename=3D"image001.png"; size=3D8681; >>> creation-date=3D"Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:40:47 GMT"; >>> modification-date=3D"Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:40:47 GMT" >>> Content-ID: >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ecrit mailing list >>> Ecrit@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Randall Gellens >> Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only >> -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- There are some=20 >> micro-organisms that exhibit characteristics of both plants and=20 >> animals. When exposed to light they undergo photosynthesis; and when=20= >> the lights go out, they turn into animals. But then again, don't we=20 >> all? >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Ecrit mailing list >> Ecrit@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit >=20 >=20 > -- > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- > 1.) If the document should exist, it doesn't. > 2.) If the document does exist, it's out of date. > 3.) Only documentation for useless programs transcends the first > two laws. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit From nobody Fri Oct 10 21:37:18 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488E51A1AA0 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 21:37:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.195 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.195 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=1.592, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.786, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nYN8iy6DbkPj for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 21:37:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3824B1A1A99 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 21:37:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qti.qualcomm.com; i=@qti.qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1413002235; x=1444538235; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:to:from:subject: mime-version; bh=LYNdcN7Luabwv/lrvDKWh9/KfBOa4ZO98v8xoIvLOW0=; b=Fbvxhi+JkOHdZ1ivXOe6jpUvR0MNv2NTWMOYsIWELtbwShYBaAPA3joV uYYm7SFT71DiwMBnXXFYnQRyPods3ki55EkaDWwih8/dYOQ9+pvS6OLQQ MTdrQN7tABgwYkAd7R198ZkvKpuSUHdjxsTH9yPUPE5iDy1N11iyPedoF Y=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5600,1067,7587"; a="165624582" Received: from ironmsg03-r.qualcomm.com ([172.30.46.17]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 10 Oct 2014 21:37:15 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.04,696,1406617200"; d="scan'208";a="767612971" Received: from nasanexhc09.na.qualcomm.com ([172.30.39.8]) by Ironmsg03-R.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 10 Oct 2014 21:37:14 -0700 Received: from NASANEXM01E.na.qualcomm.com (10.46.201.191) by nasanexhc09.na.qualcomm.com (172.30.39.8) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.181.6; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 21:37:14 -0700 Received: from [10.2.12.186] (10.80.80.8) by NASANEXM01E.na.qualcomm.com (10.46.201.191) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.913.22; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 21:37:01 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20e77c9a654943a2886636d16a6a9310@BN1PR07MB021.namprd07.prod.outlook.c om> References: <9e9112b90ae14378b11a868b31bcb773@BLUPR07MB020.namprd07.prod.outlook.c om> <20e77c9a654943a2886636d16a6a9310@BN1PR07MB021.namprd07.prod.outlook.c om> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 18:35:27 -0700 To: Chris Santer , "ecrit@ietf.org" From: Randall Gellens MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Originating-IP: [10.80.80.8] X-ClientProxiedBy: nasanexm01a.na.qualcomm.com (129.46.53.228) To NASANEXM01E.na.qualcomm.com (10.46.201.191) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/UOSXC5vEDzzgq77s52uTSJ7HtlE Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Additional data X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 04:37:17 -0000 Thanks, Chris, I've fixed this as well as your previous catch; both will be in -24. At 7:30 PM +0000 10/10/14, Chris Santer wrote: > Hi Randall, > > Thank you! > > I did have another item I'd like to bring up. > > RFC4119 allows one "provided-by" element, and this belongs in the > namespace "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:pidf:geopriv10". > > Additional Data (23) seems to attempt to either move "provided-by" > into a different namespace > (urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:EmergencyCallData), or add a new > "provided-by" element in a different namespace > (urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:EmergencyCallData). This seems to be > counter to the intent of RFC4119 and the stated goal (section 5.2) > of transmitting additional data "within a 'Provided-By' element of > a PIDF-LO". > > What the Additional Data (23) document seems to imply, with its > schema and examples, is that the following is valid: > > > > xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:EmergencyCallData:ProviderInfo"> > > But I think it should probably be something more like this: > > > > xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:EmergencyCallData:ProviderInfo"> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Randall Gellens [mailto:randy@qti.qualcomm.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 6:12 PM > To: Randall Gellens; Chris Santer; ecrit@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Additional data > > Oops, I meant "by value" -- sorry. > > At 2:43 PM -0700 10/7/14, Randall Gellens wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> >> Thanks for catching this. I agree that the 'purpose' attribute is >> not meaningful when passing additional data by reference within >> 'provided-by' within a PIDF-LO (both because multiple data blocks may >> be contained in a single 'EmergencyCallDataValue' element (making a >> single 'purpose' attribute confusing) and also because there is no >> reference to be followed; 'purpose' is used when there is a reference >> (either external or internal (CID)). >> >> I'll fix the example. >> >> At 10:40 AM +0000 10/7/14, Chris Santer wrote: >> >>> Content-Language: en-US >>> Content-Type: multipart/related; >>> >>> boundary="_004_9e9112b90ae14378b11a868b31bcb773BLUPR07MB020namprd07pro_"; >>> type="multipart/alternative" >>> >>> I have a question about implementing the EmergencyCallDataValue >>> element. The schema on [Page 54] is consistent with the example in >>> Figure 14, but does not match the description in section 5.3. We have >>> implemented using the schema and example in Figure 14 and ignored >>> section 5.3 at this time, but would like to know for sure which one >>> is correct. Section 5.3 includes the purpose attribute, which looks >>> more like a carryover from the EmergencyCallDataReference element and >>> does not belong on the EmergencyCallDataValue element (no purpose >>> attribute in the schema or Figure 14). >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Chris Santer >>> >>> Chris Santer ? Software Development >>> 2323 W. Fifth Avenue | Suite 210 | Columbus, OH 43204 >>> 614.429.3384 ext. 228 | 888.800.4003 | >>> www.DDTi.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Content-Type: image/png; name="image001.png" >>> Content-Description: image001.png >>> Content-Disposition: inline; filename="image001.png"; size=8681; >>> creation-date="Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:40:47 GMT"; >>> modification-date="Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:40:47 GMT" >>> Content-ID: >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ecrit mailing list >>> Ecrit@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit >> >> >> -- >> Randall Gellens >> Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only >> -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- There are some >> micro-organisms that exhibit characteristics of both plants and > > animals. When exposed to light they undergo photosynthesis; and when >> the lights go out, they turn into animals. But then again, don't we >> all? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ecrit mailing list >> Ecrit@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit > > > -- > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- > 1.) If the document should exist, it doesn't. > 2.) If the document does exist, it's out of date. > 3.) Only documentation for useless programs transcends the first > two laws. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he always declares that it is his duty. --George Bernard Shaw From nobody Mon Oct 13 16:58:04 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF411A1A54; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 16:58:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jTkxiPEKXeq1; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 16:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E981A1A4B; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 16:58:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.6.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141013235801.14262.28618.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 16:58:01 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/70KkCZQVb8lixQ8CGZHJXMT5MgQ Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-car-crash-01.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 23:58:02 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : Next-Generation Vehicle-Initiated Emergency Calls Authors : Randall Gellens Brian Rosen Hannes Tschofenig Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-car-crash-01.txt Pages : 22 Date : 2014-10-13 Abstract: This document describes how to use IP-based emergency services mechanisms to support the next generation of emergency calls placed by vehicles (automatically in the event of a crash or serious incident, or manually invoked by a vehicle occupant) and conveying vehicle, sensor, and location data related to the crash or incident. Such calls are often referred to as "Automatic Crash Notification" (ACN), or "Advanced Automatic Crash Notification" (AACN), even in the case of manual trigger. The "Advanced" qualifier refers to the ability to carry a richer set of data. This document also registers a MIME Content Type and an Emergency Call Additional Data Block for the vehicle, sensor, and location data (often referred to as "crash data" even though there is not necessarily a crash). An external specification for the data format, contents, and structure are referenced in this document. Profiling and simplifications are possible due to the nature of the functionality that is provided in vehicles with the usage of Global Satellite Navigation System (GNSS). This document does not address pan-European eCall (a mandated and standardized system for emergency calls by in-vehicle systems within Europe and other regions), which is the subject of a separate document, [I-D.ietf-ecrit-ecall]. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-car-crash/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-car-crash-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ecrit-car-crash-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Oct 13 18:22:26 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C4F1A1A7E; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 18:22:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SUVSRvqc3s4X; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 18:22:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C632F1A1A72; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 18:22:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.6.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141014012215.7841.15729.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 18:22:15 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/EGkOURyQyH0caTRnBbcA9o1SZXA Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data-24.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 01:22:19 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : Additional Data related to an Emergency Call Authors : Randall Gellens Brian Rosen Hannes Tschofenig Roger Marshall James Winterbottom Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data-24.txt Pages : 104 Date : 2014-10-13 Abstract: When an emergency call is sent to a Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP), the device that sends it, as well as any application service provider in the path of the call, or access network provider through which the call originated may have information about the call, the caller or the location which the PSAP may be able to use. This document describes data structures and a mechanism to convey such data to the PSAP. The mechanism uses a Uniform Resource Identifier (URI), which may point to either an external resource or an object in the body of the SIP message. The mechanism thus allows the data to be passed by reference (when the URI points to an external resource) or by value (when it points into the body of the message). This follows the tradition of prior emergency services standardization work where data can be conveyed by value within the call signaling (i.e., in body of the SIP message) and also by reference. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data-24 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data-24 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Oct 26 16:33:47 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DBD1A1AE5; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 16:33:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q6SBO94TM7o3; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 16:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963671A1AEB; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 16:33:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.6.4.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141026233340.14872.2077.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 16:33:40 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/cyTqU5W4BoP31F4DXlQCX515uqo Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-01.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 23:33:42 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : Next-Generation Pan-European eCall Authors : Randall Gellens Hannes Tschofenig Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-01.txt Pages : 35 Date : 2014-10-26 Abstract: This document describes how to use IP-based emergency services mechanisms to support the next generation of the Pan European in- vehicle emergency call service defined under the eSafety initiative of the European Commission (generally referred to as "eCall"). eCall is a standardized and mandated system for a special form of emergency calls placed by vehicles. eCall deployment is required by 2015 in European Union member states, and eCall (and eCall-compatible systems) are also being deployed in other regions. eCall provides an integrated voice path and a standardized set of vehicle, sensor (e.g., crash related), and location data. An eCall is recognized and handled as a specialized form of emergency call and is routed to a specialized eCall-capable Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP) capable of processing the vehicle data and trained in handling emergency calls from vehicles. Currently, eCall functions over circuit-switched cellular telephony; work on next-generation eCall (NG-eCall, sometimes called packet- switched eCall or PS-eCall) is now in process, and this document assists in that work by describing how to support eCall within the IP-based emergency services infrastructure. This document also registers a MIME Content Type and an Emergency Call Additional Data Block for the eCall vehicle data. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Oct 27 11:10:39 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7F61A8942; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 11:10:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0Ku1QWnravJK; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 11:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FF11A893B; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 11:10:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141027181011.18420.66436.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 11:10:11 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/HNxAgVG1elA_EFg50wAssEVxhYQ Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-00.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 18:10:13 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : A LoST extension to return complete and similar location info Authors : Roger Marshall Jeff Martin Brian Rosen Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-00.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2014-10-27 Abstract: This document introduces a new way to provide returned location information in LoST responses that is either of a completed or similar form to the original input civic location, based on whether valid or invalid civic address elements are returned within the findServiceResponse message. This document defines a new extension to the findServiceResponse message within the LoST protocol [RFC5222] that enables the LoST protocol to return a completed civic address element set for a valid location response, and one or more suggested sets of similar location information for invalid LoST responses. These two types of civic addresses are referred to as either "complete location" or "similar location", and are included as compilation of ca type xml elements within the existing LoST findServiceResponse message structure. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Oct 27 14:34:17 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A6B1AD658; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:34:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sLVbLfA1bTxm; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B4A1AD630; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:33:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141027213308.13564.55034.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:33:08 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/NKLg4YFp6SPDQnLK82quZcEfMCc Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea-09.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:34:02 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : Data-Only Emergency Calls Authors : Brian Rosen Henning Schulzrinne Hannes Tschofenig Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea-09.txt Pages : 22 Date : 2014-10-27 Abstract: RFC 6443 'Framework for Emergency Calling Using Internet Multimedia' describes how devices use the Internet to place emergency calls and how Public Safety Answering Points (PSAPs) can handle Internet multimedia emergency calls natively. The exchange of multimedia traffic typically involves a SIP session establishment starting with a SIP INVITE that negotiates various parameters for that session. In some cases, however, the transmission of application data is everything that is needed. Examples of such environments include a temperature sensors issuing alerts, or vehicles sending crash data. Often these alerts are conveyed as one-shot data transmissions. These type of interactions are called 'data-only emergency calls'. This document describes a container for the data based on the Common Alerting Protocol (CAP) and its transmission using the SIP MESSAGE transaction. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea-09 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea-09 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Oct 28 07:46:49 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440BF1A8A07 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 07:46:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.159 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.159 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qSF-ikWQtzGx for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 07:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tcmail93.telekom.de (tcmail93.telekom.de [80.149.113.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE29F1A8A08 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 07:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from s4de8nsazdfe010.bmbg.telekom.de ([10.175.246.202]) by tcmail91.telekom.de with ESMTP; 28 Oct 2014 15:46:41 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.04,802,1406584800"; d="scan'208,217";a="554805368" Received: from he110889.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.134.92.130]) by q4de8nsa015.bmbg.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 28 Oct 2014 15:46:41 +0100 Received: from HE113667.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([fe80::c943:1394:e86e:fce3]) by HE110889.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([fe80::841f:f92c:15ca:8526%16]) with mapi; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:46:40 +0100 From: To: Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:46:39 +0100 Thread-Topic: discussion on new draft-jesske-ecrit-ecall-ims-00 Thread-Index: Ac/yvft7pRY+TjToRxKLolup6JMmxg== Message-ID: <058CE00BD4D6B94FAD033A2439EA1E4B01E4FF223A49@HE113667.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> Accept-Language: en-US, de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, de-DE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_058CE00BD4D6B94FAD033A2439EA1E4B01E4FF223A49HE113667eme_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/cDdjtR7LM-11CewOQFWV5PkPpWM Subject: [Ecrit] discussion on new draft-jesske-ecrit-ecall-ims-00 X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:46:47 -0000 --_000_058CE00BD4D6B94FAD033A2439EA1E4B01E4FF223A49HE113667eme_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, yesterday I have uploaded a new draft ( https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-j= esske-ecrit-ecall-ims-00 ) which describes the requirement for a backwardco= mpatible solution to existing eCall systems when using the IMS / NGN. As you perhaps remember we had the discussion last year in Berlin to extend= the URN schema. But we learned that this will not be the propoer way. Now since we proceed with our implementation of IMS and eCall will be a req= uirement in the future I would like to discuss possible mechanisms to fulfi= ll our requirements seen from our point of view. Comments and Ideas are welcome. Thank you and Best Regards Roland Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen; With Best Regards Roland Jesske Deutsche Telekom Technik GmbH Fixed Mobile Engineering Deutschland Roland Jesske Heinrich-Hertz-Stra=DFe 3-7, 64295 Darmstadt +49 6151 58-12766 (Tel.) +49 6151 58-13395 (Fax) +49 171 8618-445 (Mobil) http://www.telekom.com Erleben, was verbindet. Deutsche Telekom Technik GmbH Aufsichtsrat: Dr. Thomas Knoll (Vorsitzender) Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrung: Dr. Bruno Jacobfeuerborn (Vorsitzender), Albert Mathe= is, Carsten M=FCller Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn HRB 14190 Sitz der Gesellschaft: Bonn USt-IdNr.: DE 814645262 Gro=DFe Ver=E4nderungen fangen klein an - Ressourcen schonen und nicht jede= E-Mail drucken. --_000_058CE00BD4D6B94FAD033A2439EA1E4B01E4FF223A49HE113667eme_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear all,
yesterday I have uploaded a new draft ( https:= //tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jesske-ecrit-ecall-ims-00 ) whic= h describes the requirement for a backwardcompatible solution to existing eCall systems when using the IMS / NGN.
 
As you perhaps remember we had the discussion last year in Berlin to e= xtend the URN schema. But we learned that this will not be the propoer way.=
Now since we proceed with our implementation of IMS and eCall will be = a requirement in the future I would like to discuss possible mechanisms to = fulfill our requirements seen from our point of view.
 
Comments and Ideas are welcome.
 
Thank you and Best Regards
 
Roland
Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen; With Best Regards
Roland Jesske

Deutsche Telekom Technik GmbH
Fixed Mobile Engineering Deutschland
Roland Jesske
Heinrich-Hertz-Stra=DFe 3-7, 64295 Darmstadt
+49 6151 58-12766 (Tel.)
+49 6151 58-13395 (Fax)
+49 171 8618-445 (Mobil)
http://www.telekom.com

Erleben, was verbindet.

Deutsche Telekom Technik Gmb= H
Aufsichtsrat: Dr. Thomas Knoll (Vorsitzender)
Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrung: Dr. Bruno Jacobfeuerborn (Vorsitzender), Albert Mathe= is, Carsten M=FCller
Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn= HRB 14190
Sitz der Gesellschaft: Bonn
USt-IdNr.: DE 814645262
Gro= =DFe Ver=E4nderungen fangen klein an = – Ressourcen schonen und nicht jede E-Mail drucken.<= /b>
 
 
 
 --_000_058CE00BD4D6B94FAD033A2439EA1E4B01E4FF223A49HE113667eme_-- From nobody Fri Oct 31 10:58:32 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63811A0173 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 10:58:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.909 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.909 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MjVxJuSm3miF for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 10:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sea-mx-02.telecomsys.com (sea-mx-02.telecomsys.com [199.165.246.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B662F1A0155 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 10:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SEA-EXCAS-2.telecomsys.com (exc2010-local2.telecomsys.com [10.32.12.187]) by sea-mx-02.telecomsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s9VHwFE9031595 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Fri, 31 Oct 2014 10:58:15 -0700 Received: from SEA-EXMB-2.telecomsys.com ([169.254.1.72]) by SEA-EXCAS-2.telecomsys.com ([10.32.12.187]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 10:58:14 -0700 From: Roger Marshall To: "ecrit@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: IETF91 - ECRIT meeting agenda time Thread-Index: Ac/1NCgKS+GJ97xgQMmcbD72eJbU5Q== Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:58:14 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.32.12.134] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_FBD5AAFFD0978846BF6D3FAB4C892ACC10576B7DSEAEXMB2telecom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/1F4w1oe-hny_xlq69BQz12JY2As Subject: [Ecrit] IETF91 - ECRIT meeting agenda time X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:58:28 -0000 --_000_FBD5AAFFD0978846BF6D3FAB4C892ACC10576B7DSEAEXMB2telecom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please let us know if you want to present your ECRIT related draft(s) at IE= TF91. Roger Marshall & Marc Linsner - ECRIT chairs CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be pr= ivileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or res= ponsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review,= forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication o= r any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this messa= ge in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all at= tachments from your computer and network. --_000_FBD5AAFFD0978846BF6D3FAB4C892ACC10576B7DSEAEXMB2telecom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Please let us know if you want to present your ECRIT related draft(= s) at IETF91.

Roger Marshall & Marc Linsner – ECRIT chairs

 

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This starts WGLC for draf= t-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea, Data-Only Emergency Calls.

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The draft can be found at= :

http://datatracker.ietf.o= rg/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea/

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Please review the draft a= nd provide comments to the list before our ECRIT meeting in Honolulu, in ju= st about 2 weeks.

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Thanks,=

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Marc & Roger

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