From C.Peoples@ulster.ac.uk Tue Dec 28 06:57:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eman@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: eman@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF713A6875 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 06:57:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.798 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.798 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.800, BAYES_50=0.001, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id slMSi9s4KGqm for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 06:57:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from e4.ulster.ac.uk (e4.ulster.ac.uk [194.80.87.111]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7613A686C for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 06:57:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from m0.ulster.ac.uk (m0.ulster.ac.uk [194.80.87.153]) by e4.ulster.ac.uk (UU/BC) with ESMTP id oBSExeql019547 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 14:59:40 GMT Received: from jnexc09.ad.ulster.ac.uk (jnexc09.ad.ulster.ac.uk [193.61.128.156]) by m0.ulster.ac.uk (UU/BC) with ESMTP id oBSExdP7012908; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 14:59:40 GMT (envelope-from e10415079@uucde.ulst.ac.uk) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBA69F.D9FF6CB1" Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 14:58:33 -0000 Message-ID: <5BEE8418A733624688A183865F7E22DC0305754E@jnexc09.ad.ulster.ac.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Deadline Extension: ENERGY 2011 || May 22-27, 2011 - Venice, Italy Thread-Index: Acumn7JgMs2/acp+TmOIUe7FAQRYpQ== From: "Peoples Cathryn" To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 23:51:16 -0800 Subject: [eman] Deadline Extension: ENERGY 2011 || May 22-27, 2011 - Venice, Italy X-BeenThere: eman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the Energy Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 14:57:40 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBA69F.D9FF6CB1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable INVITATION: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Note that the submission deadline has been extended to January 25. Please consider to contribute to and/or forward to the appropriate = groups the following opportunity to submit and publish original = scientific results. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ENERGY 2011 | Call for Papers = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D CALL FOR PAPERS, TUTORIALS, PANELS ENERGY 2011: The First International Conference on Smart Grids, Green = Communications and IT Energy-aware Technologies May 22-27, 2011 - Venice, Italy General page: http://www.iaria.org/conferences2011/ENERGY11.html Call for Papers: http://www.iaria.org/conferences2011/CfPENERGY11.html Submission deadline: January 25, 2011 Technical Co-Sponsors: - IEEE Consumer Electronics Society - Microsoft Israel R&D Center Sponsored by IARIA, www.iaria.org Extended versions of selected papers will be published in IARIA = Journals: http://www.iariajournals.org Please note the Poster Forum and Work in Progress options. The topics suggested by the conference can be discussed in term of = concepts, state of the art, research, standards, implementations, = running experiments, applications, and industrial case studies. Authors = are invited to submit complete unpublished papers, which are not under = review in any other conference or journal in the following, but not = limited to, topic areas. All tracks are open to both research and industry contributions, in = terms of Regular papers, Posters, Work in progress, = Technical/marketing/business presentations, Demos, Tutorials, and = Panels. Before submission, please check and conform with the Editorial rules: = http://www.iaria.org/editorialrules.html ENERGY 2011 Topics (topics and submission details: see CfP on the site) Fundamentals in Smart Grids Architectures for Smart Grids; Smart Grids Modeling; Middleware for = Smart Grids; Energy-efficient communication for Smart Grid = infrastructures; Smart Grid Specific Protocols (DNP3, ICCP); Scalable = infrastructures for Smart Grids; Service-oriented architectures for = Smart Grids; Standards for Smart Grids; Implementation and projects on = Smart Grids; Innovations on Smart Grids Green communications Energy-efficient communication protocols and power management; Green = communications (energy efficient modulation, coding, resource = allocation); Optimization of energy-efficient protocols/algorithms; = Cross-layer optimization techniques for efficient energy consumption; = Energy-efficient scheduling algorithms; Voltage and frequency scaled = networks protocols; Energy-efficient transmission technologies; = Energy-efficient protocols/algorithms in physical and IP layers; = Energy-efficient radio resource management and routing; Hardware = energy-efficiency systems; Virtualization techniques for energy = efficiency; Simulation/modeling tools for energy efficient solutions; Green computation Energy-efficient service provisioning; Energy-efficient networking; = Technology as Green Enablers (Grid, Cloud, Data Centers, = Virtualization); Energy-efficient methodologies for infrastructure; = Cooling/heating efficient energy; Power distribution; Green service life = cycle; Energy efficiency planning Green performance metrics; Energy and performance profiling; Energy = consumption and energy efficiency analysis; Energy demand prediction for = appliances in industrial and home environments; Green certificates; = Green maturity models Energy-aware vehicular technologies Alternative vehicular energy; Hybrid car energy and new battery = technologies; Smart charging infrastructure; New forms of energy = storage; Integration of electric vehicles and battery technology; = Monitoring and sense-and-control of charging; Energy-aware vehicular = sensor networks; Pricing models for charging stations, roaming across = territories; Systems and computing for electric vehicle; Car energy = optimization; Pricing models for charging stations Smart Grids technologies Sensors for Smart Grids; Wireless communications and networks for the = Smart Grid last mile; Transport layer mechanisms for Smart Grids; IP = interoperability in the Smart Grid; Multicast and secure multicast for = the Smart Grids; Intelligent electronic devices (IED) for Smart Grids; = Precision time synchronization protocols for the Smart Grids Smart Grids Transmission Infrastructure High Voltage DC (HVDC); Flexible AC Transmission Systems (FACTS); = Automatic Correction Substations; Phasor Measurement Units (PMU); = Optical Sensors (OS) Smart Grids management and control AMI (Advanced Metering Infrastructure); QoS, latency and reliability in = Smart Grids; Security (including wireless, wire-line, broadband over = power lines) in Smart Grids; Data aggregation, privacy considerations, = and network data anonymization; Mobility issues in Smart Grids; Demand - = response with dynamic pricing on a real-time in Smart Grids; Intelligent = status monitoring in Smart Grids; Fault tolerance and disaster recovery = in Smart Grids; Load balancing in Smart Grids; Dynamic discovery in = Smart Grids Software for Smart Grids Management software for Smart Grids; End-User software application for = Smart-grids; Firmware for Smart devices; Smart Grid modeling = applications; Smart Grids applications Geographic Information Systems (GIS); Energy Management Systems (EMS); = Demand Response Control; Meter Data Management System (MDMS); Home Area = Networking (HAN) technologies with smart meters; Wind energy integration = in Smart Grids; Disseminating power grid status information in Smart = Grids; Solar, wind and energy storage integration in Smart Grids; = Business issues for Smart Grids; Resilient operations against physical = and cyber attacks, and natural disasters; Power quality operations in a = digital economy; Anticipation and responses to system disturbances in a = self-healing manner applications Smart Grids and social infrastructure challenges Utilities and transportation assets; Smart Grid efficiency, security and = reliability; Smart Grids and renewable technologies; Enabling active = participation by consumers; Accommodate all generation and storage = options; Enable new products, services, and markets; Optimize asset = utilization and operating efficiency; Legislation on Smart Grid Advanced IT energy-aware technologies Communications, sensors, wireless, mobility; Integration of consumer = with utility's infrastructure; Automation, including billing and = monitoring (smart meter integration); User interfaces (e.g., personal = mobile devices); Appliance integration of smart appliances = (communications interfaces, data formats); Integration of customer = perception and response; Integration of solar technologies; Integration = of wind mill technologies; Energy storage integration - battery, hydro, = mechanical; Renewable energy - energy source integration models; Sensors = use for energy management Challenges in Smart Grids and IT-energy aware technologies Scaling up; Cyber-infrastructure and cyber-security - technologies, = models; Open-systems wireless and communications interface software; = Security of information technology; Governments and corporation visions; = Social perception and support; Standardizing approach ENERGY Advisory Chairs Stefan Mozar, CCM Consulting / CQ University - Sydney International = Centre, Australia Mehrdad (Mark) Ehsani, Texas A&M University - College Station, USA Petre Dini, Concordia university, Canada / China Space Agency Center, = China Mardavij Roozbehani, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, USA ENERGY Industry Liaison Chairs Dave Cavalcanti, Philips Research North America, USA Marco Di Girolamo, Hewlett-Packard Company - Cernusco sul Naviglio, = Italy Thomas M. Overman, Boeing Energy Cyber Security, USA Angelantonio Gnazzo, Telecom Italia - Torino, Italy Dragan Obradovic, Siemens AG, Germany Avi Mendelson, Microsoft Corporation, USA ENERGY Special Area Chairs on Nano-Grids Peter Mueller, IBM-Zurich, Switzeland ENERGY Special Area Chairs on Efficient Energy Consumption Giorgio Nunzi, NEC Europe Ltd. - London, UK ENERGY Special Area Chairs on Smart Grids Ritwik Majumder, ABB AB / Corporate Research Center - Vasteras, Sweden ENERGY Special Area Chairs on IT-energy- aware, Planning Brian P. Gaucher, IBM Research Division - Yorktown Heights, USA ENERGY Special Area Chairs on Grid, Green Communication Gargi Bag, ABB Corporate Research, Sweden Ken Christensen, University of South Florida, USA ENERGY Special Area Chairs on Vehicular Grzegorz Swirszcz, IBM Watson Laboratory, USA ENERGY Publicity Chairs Luciano Bertini, Fluminense Federal University, Brazil Cathryn Peoples, University of Ulster, UK Committee: http://www.iaria.org/conferences2011/ComENERGY11.html ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBA69F.D9FF6CB1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Deadline Extension: ENERGY 2011 || May 22-27, 2011 - Venice, = Italy

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CALL FOR PAPERS, TUTORIALS, PANELS

ENERGY 2011: The First International Conference on Smart Grids, Green = Communications and IT Energy-aware Technologies
May 22-27, 2011 - Venice, Italy

General page: http://www.ia= ria.org/conferences2011/ENERGY11.html
Call for Papers: http://www= .iaria.org/conferences2011/CfPENERGY11.html

Submission deadline: January 25, 2011

Technical Co-Sponsors:
- IEEE Consumer Electronics Society
- Microsoft Israel R&D Center
Sponsored by IARIA, www.iaria.org

Extended versions of selected papers will be published in IARIA = Journals: http://www.iariajournals.org
Please note the Poster Forum and Work in Progress options.

The topics suggested by the conference can be discussed in term of = concepts, state of the art, research, standards, implementations, = running experiments, applications, and industrial case studies. Authors = are invited to submit complete unpublished papers, which are not under = review in any other conference or journal in the following, but not = limited to, topic areas.

All tracks are open to both research and industry contributions, in = terms of Regular papers, Posters, Work in progress, = Technical/marketing/business presentations, Demos, Tutorials, and = Panels.

Before submission, please check and conform with the Editorial rules: http://www.iaria.org/ed= itorialrules.html

ENERGY 2011 Topics (topics and submission details: see CfP on the = site)

Fundamentals in Smart Grids
Architectures for Smart Grids; Smart Grids Modeling; Middleware for = Smart Grids; Energy-efficient communication for Smart Grid = infrastructures; Smart Grid Specific Protocols (DNP3, ICCP); Scalable = infrastructures for Smart Grids; Service-oriented architectures for = Smart Grids; Standards for Smart Grids; Implementation and projects on = Smart Grids; Innovations on Smart Grids

Green communications
Energy-efficient communication protocols and power management; Green = communications (energy efficient modulation, coding, resource = allocation); Optimization of energy-efficient protocols/algorithms; = Cross-layer optimization techniques for efficient energy consumption; = Energy-efficient scheduling algorithms; Voltage and frequency scaled = networks protocols; Energy-efficient transmission technologies; = Energy-efficient protocols/algorithms in physical and IP layers; = Energy-efficient radio resource management and routing; Hardware = energy-efficiency systems; Virtualization techniques for energy = efficiency; Simulation/modeling tools for energy efficient = solutions;

Green computation
Energy-efficient service provisioning; Energy-efficient networking; = Technology as Green Enablers (Grid, Cloud, Data Centers, = Virtualization); Energy-efficient methodologies for infrastructure; = Cooling/heating efficient energy; Power distribution; Green service life = cycle;

Energy efficiency planning
Green performance metrics; Energy and performance profiling; Energy = consumption and energy efficiency analysis; Energy demand prediction for = appliances in industrial and home environments; Green certificates; = Green maturity models

Energy-aware vehicular technologies
Alternative vehicular energy; Hybrid car energy and new battery = technologies; Smart charging infrastructure; New forms of energy = storage; Integration of electric vehicles and battery technology; = Monitoring and sense-and-control of charging; Energy-aware vehicular = sensor networks; Pricing models for charging stations, roaming across = territories; Systems and computing for electric vehicle; Car energy = optimization; Pricing models for charging stations

Smart Grids technologies
Sensors for Smart Grids; Wireless communications and networks for the = Smart Grid last mile; Transport layer mechanisms for Smart Grids; IP = interoperability in the Smart Grid; Multicast and secure multicast for = the Smart Grids; Intelligent electronic devices (IED) for Smart Grids; = Precision time synchronization protocols for the Smart Grids

Smart Grids Transmission Infrastructure
High Voltage DC (HVDC); Flexible AC Transmission Systems (FACTS); = Automatic Correction Substations; Phasor Measurement Units (PMU); = Optical Sensors (OS)

Smart Grids management and control
AMI (Advanced Metering Infrastructure); QoS, latency and reliability in = Smart Grids; Security (including wireless, wire-line, broadband over = power lines) in Smart Grids; Data aggregation, privacy considerations, = and network data anonymization; Mobility issues in Smart Grids; Demand - = response with dynamic pricing on a real-time in Smart Grids; Intelligent = status monitoring in Smart Grids; Fault tolerance and disaster recovery = in Smart Grids; Load balancing in Smart Grids; Dynamic discovery in = Smart Grids

Software for Smart Grids
Management software for Smart Grids; End-User software application for = Smart-grids; Firmware for Smart devices; Smart Grid modeling = applications;

Smart Grids applications
Geographic Information Systems (GIS); Energy Management Systems (EMS); = Demand Response Control; Meter Data Management System (MDMS); Home Area = Networking (HAN) technologies with smart meters; Wind energy integration = in Smart Grids; Disseminating power grid status information in Smart = Grids; Solar, wind and energy storage integration in Smart Grids; = Business issues for Smart Grids; Resilient operations against physical = and cyber attacks, and natural disasters; Power quality operations in a = digital economy; Anticipation and responses to system disturbances in a = self-healing manner applications

Smart Grids and social infrastructure challenges
Utilities and transportation assets; Smart Grid efficiency, security and = reliability; Smart Grids and renewable technologies; Enabling active = participation by consumers; Accommodate all generation and storage = options; Enable new products, services, and markets; Optimize asset = utilization and operating efficiency; Legislation on Smart Grid

Advanced IT energy-aware technologies
Communications, sensors, wireless, mobility; Integration of consumer = with utility's infrastructure; Automation, including billing and = monitoring (smart meter integration); User interfaces (e.g., personal = mobile devices); Appliance integration of smart appliances = (communications interfaces, data formats); Integration of customer = perception and response; Integration of solar technologies; Integration = of wind mill technologies; Energy storage integration - battery, hydro, = mechanical; Renewable energy - energy source integration models; Sensors = use for energy management

Challenges in Smart Grids and IT-energy aware technologies
Scaling up; Cyber-infrastructure and cyber-security - technologies, = models; Open-systems wireless and communications interface software; = Security of information technology; Governments and corporation visions; = Social perception and support; Standardizing approach

ENERGY Advisory Chairs
Stefan Mozar, CCM Consulting / CQ University - Sydney International = Centre, Australia
Mehrdad (Mark) Ehsani, Texas A&M University - College Station, = USA
Petre Dini, Concordia university, Canada / China Space Agency Center, = China
Mardavij Roozbehani, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, USA

ENERGY Industry Liaison Chairs
Dave Cavalcanti, Philips Research North America, USA
Marco Di Girolamo, Hewlett-Packard Company - Cernusco sul Naviglio, = Italy
Thomas M. Overman, Boeing Energy Cyber Security, USA
Angelantonio Gnazzo, Telecom Italia - Torino, Italy
Dragan Obradovic, Siemens AG, Germany
Avi Mendelson, Microsoft Corporation, USA

ENERGY Special Area Chairs on Nano-Grids
Peter Mueller, IBM-Zurich, Switzeland

ENERGY Special Area Chairs on Efficient Energy Consumption
Giorgio Nunzi, NEC Europe Ltd. - London, UK

ENERGY Special Area Chairs on Smart Grids
Ritwik Majumder, ABB AB / Corporate Research Center - Vasteras, = Sweden

ENERGY Special Area Chairs on IT-energy- aware, Planning
Brian P. Gaucher, IBM Research Division - Yorktown Heights, USA

ENERGY Special Area Chairs on Grid, Green Communication
Gargi Bag, ABB Corporate Research, Sweden
Ken Christensen, University of South Florida, USA

ENERGY Special Area Chairs on Vehicular
Grzegorz Swirszcz, IBM Watson Laboratory, USA

ENERGY Publicity Chairs
Luciano Bertini, Fluminense Federal University, Brazil
Cathryn Peoples, University of Ulster, UK

Committee: http://www= .iaria.org/conferences2011/ComENERGY11.html

------_=_NextPart_001_01CBA69F.D9FF6CB1-- From bclaise@cisco.com Mon Jan 3 23:52:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eman@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: eman@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457913A6B5C for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:52:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.415 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.415 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.049, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTTP_ESCAPED_HOST=0.134] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5FruKTkufSi0 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:52:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206DF3A6B4E for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:52:55 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p047pCCa010150; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:51:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.55.43.54] (ams-bclaise-8715.cisco.com [10.55.43.54]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p047pB3w016880; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:51:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D22D16F.5070106@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 08:51:11 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Petersen References: <201012180825289583069@huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <201012180825289583069@huawei.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060403090605090900070800" Cc: eman Subject: Re: [eman] Comments to the requriment and energy-aware-mib draft X-BeenThere: eman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the Energy Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 07:52:57 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060403090605090900070800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Petersen, Thanks for your review > Hi all, > Here are some comments to the requriment and energy-aware-mib draft > 1. requirement draft > In section 1.1, it would be better if power saving policies can be further described. Would you have specific requirements, in line with the charter, which needs to specified? > In section 2, scenarios and target devices, should wireless devices also be included? > > 2. energy-aware-mib draft > In section 7, the definition of pmEntry is mainly ethernet based. Is it also applicable to non-eth ports? No. > In section 7, the pmImportance is Integer32 (1..100). But as in the descrption, maybe only 6 classes are needed. what about just define about 6-10 classes for this ranking? > Shouldn't we prepare for the future? The description is just an example. Regards, Benoit. > Best Regards, > Petersen > > > _______________________________________________ > eman mailing list > eman@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman --------------060403090605090900070800 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Petersen,

Thanks for your review
Hi all, 
Here are some comments to the requriment and energy-aware-mib draft
1. requirement draft
In section 1.1, it would be better if power saving policies can be further described.
Would you have specific requirements, in line with the charter, which needs to specified?
In section 2, scenarios and target devices, should wireless devices also be included? 
2. energy-aware-mib draft
In section 7, the definition of pmEntry is mainly ethernet based. Is it also applicable to non-eth ports?
No.
In section 7, the pmImportance is Integer32 (1..100). But as in the descrption, maybe only 6 classes are needed. what about just define about 6-10 classes for this ranking? 
Shouldn't we prepare for the future?
The description is just an example.

Regards, Benoit.
 
Best Regards,
Petersen 

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--------------060403090605090900070800-- From bclaise@cisco.com Wed Jan 5 06:16:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eman@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: eman@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEF83A6C18 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 06:16:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.116, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E-m9ddL9BQO0 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 06:16:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524933A6C05 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 06:16:26 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p05EElIm028829 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:14:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.55.43.54] (ams-bclaise-8715.cisco.com [10.55.43.54]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p05EEliA022016 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:14:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D247CD7.1080102@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:14:47 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eman mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [eman] Issue 1: terminology X-BeenThere: eman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the Energy Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:16:27 -0000 Dear all, Let's try to solve the specific issue of terminology, as many documents depend on this. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eman-framework-00 gives it a try. Please review and comment. Regards, Benoit. From bclaise@cisco.com Wed Jan 5 06:28:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eman@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: eman@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3083A6C3B for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 06:28:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.485 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.485 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.114, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2DsirPzKMatF for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 06:28:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E223A6C29 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 06:28:54 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p05ERGtU029897 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:27:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.55.43.54] (ams-bclaise-8715.cisco.com [10.55.43.54]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p05ERGAW007446 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:27:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D247FC3.8010401@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:27:15 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eman mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [eman] Issue 2: How many operational power states do we need? X-BeenThere: eman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the Energy Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:28:55 -0000 Dear all, At the last IETF meeting, there were different opinions regarding the power states. Let me try to summarize what I heard. Some people were thinking we should attempt to have standardized power states, for both operational and non operational states. The 6 non operational states of ACPI were proposed. Next to that the question was how many do we need for operational: 6 other ones were proposed. This is currently the proposal in [EMAN-FMWK] Some other people were proposing not have operational states, but only non operational states. The ACPI based proposed if fine in this case? I don't remember anybody advocating no power states at all. Anyway, the notion of power states is specified in the EMAN charter. Please From Quittek@neclab.eu Wed Jan 12 02:32:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eman@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: eman@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416CF28C0E9 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:32:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.16 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.16 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.439, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VbH6jrNRuwS1 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:32:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp0.neclab.eu (smtp0.neclab.eu [195.37.70.41]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1507D28C0D8 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:32:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp0.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBF72C00040C; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 11:38:19 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Amavisd on Debian GNU/Linux (atlas2.office.hd) Received: from smtp0.neclab.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlas2.office.hd [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UR1hf2UePbI7; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 11:38:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from METHONE.office.hd (Methone.office.hd [192.168.24.54]) by smtp0.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3B22C000407; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 11:38:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from DAPHNIS.office.hd ([169.254.2.176]) by METHONE.office.hd ([192.168.24.54]) with mapi id 14.01.0270.001; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 11:35:01 +0100 From: Juergen Quittek To: Benoit Claise , eman mailing list Thread-Topic: [eman] Issue 1: terminology: PowerMonitor Thread-Index: AQHLskRdVkGiMTetm061dTKeGFgpdw== Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:35:01 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4D247CD7.1080102@cisco.com> Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/13.7.0.100913 x-originating-ip: [10.1.2.219] Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3377676903_61603200" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [eman] Issue 1: terminology: PowerMonitor X-BeenThere: eman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the Energy Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:32:58 -0000 --B_3377676903_61603200 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dear all, I have a few comments on eman terminology. I will send them in separate emails. Here is the first one on the term PowerMonitor. > Power Monitor > > A Power Monitor is a component within a system of components > that provides power, draws power, or reports energy consumption > on behalf of another Power Monitor. I think that power monitor is a good term for a component that is capable of providing power information on its own or other devices power. However, the current definition also calls a device a Power Monitor that is just an energy consumer, even if the device does not have any capability for power monitoring or reporting. With this definition EVERY node in a network for which we manage energy is a Power Monitor. The right term for this is "managed node". Here is my proposal for the definition of a power monitor: Power Monitor A power monitor has access to energy-related information concerning powered devices and is able to report this information to energy management systems. This may be extended with further properties of power monitors, such as The power monitor may also provide information on identities and properties of powered devices to the management system. A power monitor may store energy-related information and process it, for example, for aggregating information or for extracting statistics that are provided to the management system. == Juergen On 05.01.11 15:14 "Benoit Claise" wrote: > Dear all, > > Let's try to solve the specific issue of terminology, as many documents > depend on this. > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eman-framework-00 gives it a try. > Please review and comment. > > Regards, Benoit. > > > > _______________________________________________ > eman mailing list > eman@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman --B_3377676903_61603200 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIIQ5wYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIQ2DCCENQCAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC Do8wggUzMIIEG6ADAgECAgQP7R53MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMIGQMQswCQYDVQQGEwJERTEY MBYGA1UEChMPTkVDIEV1cm9wZSBMdGQuMSAwHgYDVQQLExdORUMgTGFib3JhdG9yaWVzIEV1 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X-Original-To: eman@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: eman@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7070F3A69D7 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:47:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.500, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AMLsv1G58jAK for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:47:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ihemail1.lucent.com (ihemail1.lucent.com [135.245.0.33]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648AC3A69DE for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:47:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from usnavsmail4.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (usnavsmail4.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com [135.3.39.12]) by ihemail1.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id p0RLoUKC028814 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA 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acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01CBBE42.4D174240" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.33 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 135.3.39.12 Subject: Re: [eman] Issue 1: terminology: PowerMonitor X-BeenThere: eman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the Energy Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:47:29 -0000 ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CBBE42.4D174240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For what it is worth I agree with Juergen on this point. The term Power Monitor should be applied only to those entities which provide the monitoring. Whether those entities are themselves producers or consumers of power seems incidental to the concept of being a monitor. I like Juergen's definitions below. Cheers, William F. Mielke Alcatel-Lucent Distinguished Member of Technical Staff 6200 East Broad Street Room: 4B01-1V Columbus, OH 43213-1530 Email: Bill.Mielke@alcatel-lucent.com Phone: 614 367 5628 Fax: 614 367 5965 "Live like you're going to die tomorrow. Learn like you're going to live forever." - Albert Einstein > -----Original Message----- > From: eman-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:eman-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Juergen Quittek > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:35 AM > To: Benoit Claise; eman mailing list > Subject: Re: [eman] Issue 1: terminology: PowerMonitor > > Dear all, > > I have a few comments on eman terminology. I will send them > in separate > emails. Here is the first one on the term PowerMonitor. > > > Power Monitor > > > > A Power Monitor is a component within a system of components > > that provides power, draws power, or reports energy consumption > > on behalf of another Power Monitor. > > I think that power monitor is a good term for a component > that is capable of > providing power information on its own or other devices power. > > However, the current definition also calls a device a Power > Monitor that is > just an energy consumer, even if the device does not have any > capability for > power monitoring or reporting. With this definition EVERY > node in a network > for which we manage energy is a Power Monitor. The right term > for this is > "managed node". > > Here is my proposal for the definition of a power monitor: > > Power Monitor > > A power monitor has access to energy-related information concerning > powered devices and is able to report this information to energy > management systems. > > This may be extended with further properties of power > monitors, such as > > The power monitor may also provide information on identities and > properties of powered devices to the management system. > > A power monitor may store energy-related information and > process it, > for example, for aggregating information or for extracting > statistics > that are provided to the management system. > > == > Juergen > ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CBBE42.4D174240 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIV8jCCA7Ew 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