From nobody Wed Jun 1 05:35:12 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eman@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eman@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC8212D1A6 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 05:35:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.333 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.333 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UWke1nfgAxtN for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 05:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cirse-out.extra.cea.fr (cirse-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26CC012B007 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 05:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by cirse.extra.cea.fr (8.15.2/8.15.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.4) with ESMTP id u51CYvlx001320 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:34:57 +0200 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 0454C20341D for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:35:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet1.intra.cea.fr (muguet1.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.6]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC252033ED for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:35:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.8.34.184] (is227335.intra.cea.fr [10.8.34.184]) by muguet1.intra.cea.fr (8.15.2/8.15.2/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.4) with ESMTP id u51CYuPE022481 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:34:56 +0200 To: eman@ietf.org References: <556E820E.4040208@bogus.com> <55720A99.2030407@cisco.com> <944DE63C-1467-4EC2-976F-24C46588693F@lucidvision.com> From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:34:56 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: [eman] energy-specific efforts at IETF? X-BeenThere: eman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the Energy Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 12:35:02 -0000 Hi, Is there any other effort focusing on energy consumption happening at IETF currently? I am interested in aspects related to energy consumption of IP networks used to deliver video streams. Yours, Alex Petrescu Le 09/06/2015 à 05:01, Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan) a écrit : > Thanks to all the WG chairs for shepherding the IETF drafts and taking > them to a conclusion. > I may not be able to travel to Prague. So, enjoy. > > Cheers > Mouli > > From: Nadeau Thomas > > Date: Saturday, 6 June 2015 2:22 AM > To: "Benoit Claise (bclaise)" > > Cc: eman mailing list >, > "eman-chairs@tools.ietf.org " > > > Subject: Re: [eman] Status of the EMAN W.G. effort. > > > Beers are on you! 8) > > >> On Jun 5, 2015:4:46 PM, at 4:46 PM, Benoit Claise >> > wrote: >> >> Yes, thanks to the contributors, document editors, WG chairs, >> previous ADs :-), basically the entire EMAN community. >> Celebration in Prague? Fine with me. >> >> Regards, Benoit >>> Greetings, >>> >>> Now that we've crossed the milstone of having >>> draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-11 move to the RFC editor queue, >>> I think we can pause and reflect on the effort that has completed. It >>> took a while to get here and the consensus that we built was hard won >>> but I hope durable. >>> >>> It's my intention to close down the working group, maintaining the >>> mailing list for a time. The mailing list archive as with other IETF >>> mailing lists will be preserved. in the immediate sense if there is work >>> around the edges of this space we have the opsawg working group to >>> support such activities. >>> >>> Thank you again for your diligent efforts, especially the present and >>> former chairs who shepherded this work to the point that it is at now. >>> >>> Regards >>> Joel >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> eman mailing list >>> eman@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman >> >> _______________________________________________ >> eman mailing list >> eman@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman > > > > _______________________________________________ > eman mailing list > eman@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman > From nobody Wed Jun 1 11:00:44 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eman@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eman@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939AB12D0A4 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:00:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.428 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.428 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=lucidvision.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PQ31V5IZRvhL for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lucidvision.com (lucidvision.com [64.71.170.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BD2212D09D for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lucidvision.com; s=default; t=1464803982; bh=Wtde8TvANmpvK9zsiBuIh6jzerOqqmTnKOu+VAlwhEw=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=Vr4fkeKBrm2BiTldCIoZ31wTHqOu7+6H6ZIUThaX5BM1Ymtax4PXooFccq9p3RL8a 459dQlJ7vqzk//SG4WJXdKRKCaF+v8pensdvbyYX+5wNpbmw5dI0L9vqWadS9oJYQK yhtVFexlznWJb52SAVx1V3PFMcX+svoaHkJfHg9g= X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=50.255.148.181; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Nadeau Thomas In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:00:15 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9494BFE6-4782-4B9B-B4BC-B9C474F1C93D@lucidvision.com> References: <556E820E.4040208@bogus.com> <55720A99.2030407@cisco.com> <944DE63C-1467-4EC2-976F-24C46588693F@lucidvision.com> To: Alexandre Petrescu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Authenticated-User: tnadeau@lucidvision.com X-Info: aspam skipped due to (g_smite_skip_relay) X-Encryption: SSL encrypted X-MyRbl: Color=Unknown ip=50.255.148.181 X-IP-stats: Notspam Incoming Last 1, First 383, in=3820, out=0, spam=0 Known=true ip=50.255.148.181 Archived-At: Cc: eman@ietf.org Subject: Re: [eman] energy-specific efforts at IETF? X-BeenThere: eman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the Energy Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 18:00:42 -0000 Not that I know of in the form of an official working group. = EMAN was shut down something like a year ago. --Tom > On Jun 1, 2016:8:34 AM, at 8:34 AM, Alexandre Petrescu = wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Is there any other effort focusing on energy consumption happening at = IETF currently? >=20 > I am interested in aspects related to energy consumption of IP = networks used to deliver video streams. >=20 > Yours, >=20 > Alex Petrescu >=20 > Le 09/06/2015 =E0 05:01, Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan) a =E9crit : >> Thanks to all the WG chairs for shepherding the IETF drafts and = taking >> them to a conclusion. >> I may not be able to travel to Prague. So, enjoy. >>=20 >> Cheers >> Mouli >>=20 >> From: Nadeau Thomas > > >> Date: Saturday, 6 June 2015 2:22 AM >> To: "Benoit Claise (bclaise)" > >> Cc: eman mailing list >, >> "eman-chairs@tools.ietf.org " >> > >> Subject: Re: [eman] Status of the EMAN W.G. effort. >>=20 >>=20 >> Beers are on you! 8) >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Jun 5, 2015:4:46 PM, at 4:46 PM, Benoit Claise >>> > wrote: >>>=20 >>> Yes, thanks to the contributors, document editors, WG chairs, >>> previous ADs :-), basically the entire EMAN community. >>> Celebration in Prague? Fine with me. >>>=20 >>> Regards, Benoit >>>> Greetings, >>>>=20 >>>> Now that we've crossed the milstone of having >>>> draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-11 move to the RFC = editor queue, >>>> I think we can pause and reflect on the effort that has = completed. It >>>> took a while to get here and the consensus that we built was = hard won >>>> but I hope durable. >>>>=20 >>>> It's my intention to close down the working group, maintaining = the >>>> mailing list for a time. The mailing list archive as with other = IETF >>>> mailing lists will be preserved. in the immediate sense if there = is work >>>> around the edges of this space we have the opsawg working group = to >>>> support such activities. >>>>=20 >>>> Thank you again for your diligent efforts, especially the = present and >>>> former chairs who shepherded this work to the point that it is = at now. >>>>=20 >>>> Regards >>>> Joel >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> eman mailing list >>>> eman@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> eman mailing list >>> eman@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> eman mailing list >> eman@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > eman mailing list > eman@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman From nobody Thu Jun 2 01:18:51 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eman@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eman@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735B312B050 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 01:18:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nbEom0lQc4cG for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 01:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-x22e.google.com (mail-yw0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6562312B038 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 01:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id x189so43117360ywe.3 for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2016 01:18:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=j41bi9Uw6UfEVdkHIYrRZXAq8+a/evjX8O9C1F4Fc1Q=; b=Wg+2IYm5kB1AYd7EduS1e72Nxm/khwH34jQima/8osQUhSeipkQrBRlJIYHif5nwoo esEsGvT6I4ifLY8m/KPEgDnZ1bPxn6Y84+BqkshZxmWwTl00zU8Daf3rExFf2a6WrhWu WBqCOOGZs0t4WAohPqfytghdVw9RMRquQhfAxpe/W+S8GULxWilYODMUgnRErw6erlBt 5bUDG3Ew+3o5eGRcrMuyHper54KkHqyVgTs06SxAV//KlXECrKsR9nWB441sVIy3xVBe H0Zhtd7se4hk8ngRg1WqtBRCjB9Qq1r91V5QHungbMwiYzY1EbW9KprZy7GcUJoxFKO7 sxMg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=j41bi9Uw6UfEVdkHIYrRZXAq8+a/evjX8O9C1F4Fc1Q=; b=icoIC+AH3xEKniZpgm27YwZMgo/7HN+GbqnMnNm837kU2lkMyU0dHf1WqyqWMqJhgh SuNjrZ19VjztR/Y0WfWPPDihAvhrwypTasJ0WdKXsVaWxQ25/x9AvjTFl5ri5GeOpUq9 oKAjIPaxf4ing+JRd24hByHJORnsLvKBsByjH3BV7qrYwwcXXCGHPSl0Fz45EMmVzyoH cFhmFQVQKaVPNpmRsxV6pumfG6qSehOPR94HDz7ytsHRuXDChUoVT8TeCxb4fiVFuKDc Gvw85ZHKQ1fZ0anE2kBPo8Zz20RglnCQ8JIAnJ01ojmFOMvgxMGfmAkba0cgkAYi6yhL +imA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tK+iYJJ1OJEuGoeP83heI5ZA8FsOgRh7Yh9wHE8/4OsGckb6zWqMJ5koKUS9cvA5zOnUSyUetUnBflx4g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.94.5 with SMTP id s5mr5125256ywb.71.1464855526563; Thu, 02 Jun 2016 01:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.4.195 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 01:18:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9494BFE6-4782-4B9B-B4BC-B9C474F1C93D@lucidvision.com> References: <556E820E.4040208@bogus.com> <55720A99.2030407@cisco.com> <944DE63C-1467-4EC2-976F-24C46588693F@lucidvision.com> <9494BFE6-4782-4B9B-B4BC-B9C474F1C93D@lucidvision.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 10:18:46 +0200 Message-ID: From: Rolf Winter To: Nadeau Thomas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Cc: eman@ietf.org Subject: Re: [eman] energy-specific efforts at IETF? X-BeenThere: eman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the Energy Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 08:18:49 -0000 Is there anything that the EMAN work is not addressing or that requires new protocol work? On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Nadeau Thomas wro= te: > > Not that I know of in the form of an official working group. EMAN= was shut down something like a year ago. > > --Tom > >> On Jun 1, 2016:8:34 AM, at 8:34 AM, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Is there any other effort focusing on energy consumption happening at IE= TF currently? >> >> I am interested in aspects related to energy consumption of IP networks = used to deliver video streams. >> >> Yours, >> >> Alex Petrescu >> >> Le 09/06/2015 =C3=A0 05:01, Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan) a =C3=A9crit : >>> Thanks to all the WG chairs for shepherding the IETF drafts and taking >>> them to a conclusion. >>> I may not be able to travel to Prague. So, enjoy. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Mouli >>> >>> From: Nadeau Thomas >> > >>> Date: Saturday, 6 June 2015 2:22 AM >>> To: "Benoit Claise (bclaise)" > >>> Cc: eman mailing list >, >>> "eman-chairs@tools.ietf.org " >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [eman] Status of the EMAN W.G. effort. >>> >>> >>> Beers are on you! 8) >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 5, 2015:4:46 PM, at 4:46 PM, Benoit Claise >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, thanks to the contributors, document editors, WG chairs, >>>> previous ADs :-), basically the entire EMAN community. >>>> Celebration in Prague? Fine with me. >>>> >>>> Regards, Benoit >>>>> Greetings, >>>>> >>>>> Now that we've crossed the milstone of having >>>>> draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-11 move to the RFC editor = queue, >>>>> I think we can pause and reflect on the effort that has completed.= It >>>>> took a while to get here and the consensus that we built was hard = won >>>>> but I hope durable. >>>>> >>>>> It's my intention to close down the working group, maintaining the >>>>> mailing list for a time. The mailing list archive as with other IE= TF >>>>> mailing lists will be preserved. in the immediate sense if there i= s work >>>>> around the edges of this space we have the opsawg working group to >>>>> support such activities. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you again for your diligent efforts, especially the present = and >>>>> former chairs who shepherded this work to the point that it is at = now. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Joel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> eman mailing list >>>>> eman@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> eman mailing list >>>> eman@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> eman mailing list >>> eman@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> eman mailing list >> eman@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman > > _______________________________________________ > eman mailing list > eman@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman From nobody Thu Jun 2 01:22:20 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eman@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eman@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B17012B050 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 01:22:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.333 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.333 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4Yi9KfVi-n0P for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 01:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr (sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.145]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E878F12B038 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 01:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by sainfoin.extra.cea.fr (8.15.2/8.15.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.4) with ESMTP id u528MFFF018818; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 10:22:15 +0200 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 80EF5205A5A; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 10:22:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet1.intra.cea.fr (muguet1.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.6]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E7E205A4D; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 10:22:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.8.34.184] (is227335.intra.cea.fr [10.8.34.184]) by muguet1.intra.cea.fr (8.15.2/8.15.2/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.4) with ESMTP id u528MFsL026570; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 10:22:15 +0200 To: Rolf Winter , Nadeau Thomas References: <556E820E.4040208@bogus.com> <55720A99.2030407@cisco.com> <944DE63C-1467-4EC2-976F-24C46588693F@lucidvision.com> <9494BFE6-4782-4B9B-B4BC-B9C474F1C93D@lucidvision.com> From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: <34c7f0db-6547-add3-333d-9f390558d0d7@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 10:22:15 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: eman@ietf.org Subject: Re: [eman] energy-specific efforts at IETF? X-BeenThere: eman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the Energy Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 08:22:20 -0000 Le 02/06/2016 à 10:18, Rolf Winter a écrit : > Is there anything that the EMAN work is not addressing or that > requires new protocol work? For my clarification - is the battery monitoring MIB RFC7577 using YANG? Alex > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Nadeau Thomas wrote: >> >> Not that I know of in the form of an official working group. EMAN was shut down something like a year ago. >> >> --Tom >> >>> On Jun 1, 2016:8:34 AM, at 8:34 AM, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is there any other effort focusing on energy consumption happening at IETF currently? >>> >>> I am interested in aspects related to energy consumption of IP networks used to deliver video streams. >>> >>> Yours, >>> >>> Alex Petrescu >>> >>> Le 09/06/2015 à 05:01, Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan) a écrit : >>>> Thanks to all the WG chairs for shepherding the IETF drafts and taking >>>> them to a conclusion. >>>> I may not be able to travel to Prague. So, enjoy. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Mouli >>>> >>>> From: Nadeau Thomas >>> > >>>> Date: Saturday, 6 June 2015 2:22 AM >>>> To: "Benoit Claise (bclaise)" > >>>> Cc: eman mailing list >, >>>> "eman-chairs@tools.ietf.org " >>>> > >>>> Subject: Re: [eman] Status of the EMAN W.G. effort. >>>> >>>> >>>> Beers are on you! 8) >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 5, 2015:4:46 PM, at 4:46 PM, Benoit Claise >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, thanks to the contributors, document editors, WG chairs, >>>>> previous ADs :-), basically the entire EMAN community. >>>>> Celebration in Prague? Fine with me. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, Benoit >>>>>> Greetings, >>>>>> >>>>>> Now that we've crossed the milstone of having >>>>>> draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-11 move to the RFC editor queue, >>>>>> I think we can pause and reflect on the effort that has completed. It >>>>>> took a while to get here and the consensus that we built was hard won >>>>>> but I hope durable. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's my intention to close down the working group, maintaining the >>>>>> mailing list for a time. The mailing list archive as with other IETF >>>>>> mailing lists will be preserved. in the immediate sense if there is work >>>>>> around the edges of this space we have the opsawg working group to >>>>>> support such activities. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you again for your diligent efforts, especially the present and >>>>>> former chairs who shepherded this work to the point that it is at now. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Joel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> eman mailing list >>>>>> eman@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> eman mailing list >>>>> eman@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> eman mailing list >>>> eman@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> eman mailing list >>> eman@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman >> >> _______________________________________________ >> eman mailing list >> eman@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman > From nobody Thu Jun 2 02:21:15 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eman@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eman@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1ED12D675 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 02:21:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.346 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.346 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GfwVOMz0ichp for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 02:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FBDA12D687 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 02:21:11 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2B8AQBD+U9X/yYyC4deGgEBAQGCcCyBU?= =?us-ascii?q?waNIKEaiWCCD4F5hhECHIEWOBQBAQEBAQEBZSeERQEBAQEDEhEROgsMBAIBCA0?= =?us-ascii?q?EAwEBAQECAgYdAwICAh8RFAEICAIEAQ0FCAwLA4dzAxcBpVeKUIx0DYQfAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBHIEBhSeETIJDgUk2FYJqK4IuBZgEMwGMJQGLUYV?= =?us-ascii?q?Eh2SHaB42g21uiX0BfgEBAQ?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2B8AQBD+U9X/yYyC4deGgEBAQGCcCyBUwaNIKEaiWCCD4F?= =?us-ascii?q?5hhECHIEWOBQBAQEBAQEBZSeERQEBAQEDEhEROgsMBAIBCA0EAwEBAQECAgYdA?= =?us-ascii?q?wICAh8RFAEICAIEAQ0FCAwLA4dzAxcBpVeKUIx0DYQfAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQEBHIEBhSeETIJDgUk2FYJqK4IuBZgEMwGMJQGLUYVEh2SHaB42g21ui?= =?us-ascii?q?X0BfgEBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.26,405,1459828800"; d="scan'208";a="177660822" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast-smtpauth.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.38]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 02 Jun 2016 05:21:10 -0400 X-OutboundMail_SMTP: 1 Received: from unknown (HELO AZ-FFEXHC03.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.58.13]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES256-SHA; 02 Jun 2016 05:20:55 -0400 Received: from AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com ([fe80::6db7:b0af:8480:c126]) by AZ-FFEXHC03.global.avaya.com ([135.64.58.13]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Thu, 2 Jun 2016 05:20:52 -0400 From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Alexandre Petrescu , Rolf Winter , Nadeau Thomas Thread-Topic: [eman] energy-specific efforts at IETF? 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28 Jun 2016 16:54:35 +0200 To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , Rolf Winter , Nadeau Thomas References: <556E820E.4040208@bogus.com> <55720A99.2030407@cisco.com> <944DE63C-1467-4EC2-976F-24C46588693F@lucidvision.com> <9494BFE6-4782-4B9B-B4BC-B9C474F1C93D@lucidvision.com> <34c7f0db-6547-add3-333d-9f390558d0d7@gmail.com> <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA751F8C6D@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: <8fb2d1ec-4a69-42c4-0063-123ada215fc8@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 16:54:35 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA751F8C6D@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: "eman@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [eman] energy-specific efforts at IETF? X-BeenThere: eman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the Energy Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:54:45 -0000 The SDN paradigm may be applied not just to switches but to smartphones. Further, a tool like CoMI (CoAP Management Interface) may make use of YANG models on IoT devices which are typically constrained on battery. Yesterday I read about an NB-IoT LPWA device from u-blox which runs on a battery for 10 years. Alex Le 02/06/2016 à 11:20, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) a écrit : > No, RFC 7577 defines an SMIv2 MIB. > > Before engaging in a discussion about 'let us do EMAN data modelling > in YANG' I would like to see a use case - i.e. an example of an > energy monitoring system that uses YANG for reporting energy > information. > > Regards, > > Dan > > >> -----Original Message----- From: eman >> [mailto:eman-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexandre Petrescu >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 11:22 AM To: Rolf Winter; Nadeau >> Thomas Cc: eman@ietf.org Subject: Re: [eman] energy-specific >> efforts at IETF? >> >> >> >> Le 02/06/2016 à 10:18, Rolf Winter a écrit : >>> Is there anything that the EMAN work is not addressing or that >>> requires new protocol work? >> >> For my clarification - is the battery monitoring MIB RFC7577 using >> YANG? >> >> Alex >> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Nadeau Thomas >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Not that I know of in the form of an official working group. >>>> EMAN was >> shut down something like a year ago. >>>> >>>> --Tom >>>> >>>>> On Jun 1, 2016:8:34 AM, at 8:34 AM, Alexandre Petrescu >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Is there any other effort focusing on energy consumption >>>>> happening at >> IETF currently? >>>>> >>>>> I am interested in aspects related to energy consumption of >>>>> IP networks >> used to deliver video streams. >>>>> >>>>> Yours, >>>>> >>>>> Alex Petrescu >>>>> >>>>> Le 09/06/2015 à 05:01, Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan) a écrit >>>>> : >>>>>> Thanks to all the WG chairs for shepherding the IETF drafts >>>>>> and taking them to a conclusion. I may not be able to >>>>>> travel to Prague. So, enjoy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers Mouli >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Nadeau Thomas >>>>> > Date: Saturday, 6 June >>>>>> 2015 2:22 AM To: "Benoit Claise (bclaise)" >>>>>> > Cc: eman >>>>>> mailing list >, >>>>>> "eman-chairs@tools.ietf.org >>>>>> " >>>>>> >>>>> > Subject: Re: [eman] >>>>>> Status of the EMAN W.G. effort. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Beers are on you! 8) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 5, 2015:4:46 PM, at 4:46 PM, Benoit Claise >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, thanks to the contributors, document editors, WG >>>>>>> chairs, previous ADs :-), basically the entire EMAN >>>>>>> community. Celebration in Prague? Fine with me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, Benoit >>>>>>>> Greetings, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now that we've crossed the milstone of having >>>>>>>> draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-11 move to the >>>>>>>> RFC editor >> queue, >>>>>>>> I think we can pause and reflect on the effort that has >>>>>>>> completed. >> It >>>>>>>> took a while to get here and the consensus that we >>>>>>>> built was hard >> won >>>>>>>> but I hope durable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's my intention to close down the working group, >>>>>>>> maintaining the mailing list for a time. 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<9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA7521DEAC@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> From: joel jaeggli Message-ID: <1419b926-5bd8-fc70-669a-02d22091a431@bogus.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 21:49:53 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:47.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/47.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA7521DEAC@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="G1cP3tQlk7UXinmT6VbamtqIxcxqfjLfB" Archived-At: Cc: "eman@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [eman] energy-specific efforts at IETF? X-BeenThere: eman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the Energy Management Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 04:50:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --G1cP3tQlk7UXinmT6VbamtqIxcxqfjLfB Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="lPUMKUiqv6SB09SUCH3rKSmGGmdfNaCrp" From: joel jaeggli To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , Alexandre Petrescu , Rolf Winter , Nadeau Thomas Cc: "eman@ietf.org" Message-ID: <1419b926-5bd8-fc70-669a-02d22091a431@bogus.com> Subject: Re: [eman] energy-specific efforts at IETF? References: <556E820E.4040208@bogus.com> <55720A99.2030407@cisco.com> <944DE63C-1467-4EC2-976F-24C46588693F@lucidvision.com> <9494BFE6-4782-4B9B-B4BC-B9C474F1C93D@lucidvision.com> <34c7f0db-6547-add3-333d-9f390558d0d7@gmail.com> <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA751F8C6D@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> <8fb2d1ec-4a69-42c4-0063-123ada215fc8@gmail.com> <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA7521DEAC@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> In-Reply-To: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA7521DEAC@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> --lPUMKUiqv6SB09SUCH3rKSmGGmdfNaCrp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 6/28/16 8:10 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > Sure. But your two statements (in the first paragraph) use each of > the conditional 'may'. What is the reason to use YANG on the devices? > The SDN paradigm does not AFAIK make assumptions about using a > specific protocol or DML at the device management level. YANG comes > at a certain cost (bits on wire, memory). Maybe this is affordable, > or maybe YANG is needed for other reasons, but this needs to be shown > explicitely. Signaling presumes in some utility is derived from coordination. If I have a ten year primary battery or I'm a space probe headed to alpha centuri I'm not going to devote a lot of electrons to expressing my power consumption or battery condition. More active or particularly coordinated groups of devices such as the elements of a BST or a datacenter might well have information to share. > Regards, >=20 > Dan >=20 >=20 >> -----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Petrescu >> [mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 >> 5:55 PM To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Rolf Winter; Nadeau Thomas Cc: >> eman@ietf.org Subject: Re: [eman] energy-specific efforts at IETF? >>=20 >> The SDN paradigm may be applied not just to switches but to >> smartphones. Further, a tool like CoMI (CoAP Management Interface) >> may make use of YANG models on IoT devices which are typically >> constrained on battery. >>=20 >> Yesterday I read about an NB-IoT LPWA device from u-blox which runs >> on a battery for 10 years. >>=20 >> Alex >>=20 >> Le 02/06/2016 =C3=A0 11:20, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) a =C3=A9crit : >>> No, RFC 7577 defines an SMIv2 MIB. >>>=20 >>> Before engaging in a discussion about 'let us do EMAN data >>> modelling in YANG' I would like to see a use case - i.e. an >>> example of an energy monitoring system that uses YANG for >>> reporting energy information. >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>>=20 >>> Dan >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> -----Original Message----- From: eman >>>> [mailto:eman-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexandre Petrescu=20 >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 11:22 AM To: Rolf Winter; Nadeau >>>> Thomas Cc: eman@ietf.org Subject: Re: [eman] energy-specific >>>> efforts at IETF? >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Le 02/06/2016 =C3=A0 10:18, Rolf Winter a =C3=A9crit : >>>>> Is there anything that the EMAN work is not addressing or >>>>> that requires new protocol work? >>>>=20 >>>> For my clarification - is the battery monitoring MIB RFC7577 >>>> using YANG? >>>>=20 >>>> Alex >>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Nadeau Thomas >>>> wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Not that I know of in the form of an official working >>>>>> group. EMAN was >>>> shut down something like a year ago. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --Tom >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Jun 1, 2016:8:34 AM, at 8:34 AM, Alexandre Petrescu >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Is there any other effort focusing on energy consumption >>>>>>> happening at >>>> IETF currently? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> I am interested in aspects related to energy consumption >>>>>>> of IP networks >>>> used to deliver video streams. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Yours, >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Alex Petrescu >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Le 09/06/2015 =C3=A0 05:01, Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan) a >>>>>>> =C3=A9crit : >>>>>>>> Thanks to all the WG chairs for shepherding the IETF >>>>>>>> drafts and taking them to a conclusion. I may not be >>>>>>>> able to travel to Prague. So, enjoy. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Cheers Mouli >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> From: Nadeau Thomas >>>>>>> > Date: Saturday, 6 >>>>>>>> June 2015 2:22 AM To: "Benoit Claise (bclaise)"=20 >>>>>>>> > Cc: eman >>>>>>>> mailing list >,=20 >>>>>>>> "eman-chairs@tools.ietf.org >>>>>>>> "=20 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> > Subject: Re: >>>>>>>> [eman] Status of the EMAN W.G. effort. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Beers are on you! 8) >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> On Jun 5, 2015:4:46 PM, at 4:46 PM, Benoit Claise=20 >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Yes, thanks to the contributors, document editors, WG >>>>>>>>> chairs, previous ADs :-), basically the entire EMAN >>>>>>>>> community. Celebration in Prague? Fine with me. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Regards, Benoit >>>>>>>>>> Greetings, >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Now that we've crossed the milstone of having=20 >>>>>>>>>> draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-11 move to >>>>>>>>>> the RFC editor >>>> queue, >>>>>>>>>> I think we can pause and reflect on the effort that >>>>>>>>>> has completed. >>>> It >>>>>>>>>> took a while to get here and the consensus that we >>>>>>>>>> built was hard >>>> won >>>>>>>>>> but I hope durable. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> It's my intention to close down the working group, >>>>>>>>>> maintaining the mailing list for a time. The >>>>>>>>>> mailing list archive as with other IETF mailing >>>>>>>>>> lists will be preserved. in the immediate sense if >>>>>>>>>> there is >>>> work >>>>>>>>>> around the edges of this space we have the opsawg >>>>>>>>>> working >> group >>>> to >>>>>>>>>> support such activities. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Thank you again for your diligent efforts, >>>>>>>>>> especially the present and former chairs who >>>>>>>>>> shepherded this work to the point that it is at >>>> now. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Regards Joel >>>=20 > _______________________________________________ eman mailing list=20 > eman@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman >=20 --lPUMKUiqv6SB09SUCH3rKSmGGmdfNaCrp-- --G1cP3tQlk7UXinmT6VbamtqIxcxqfjLfB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iEYEARECAAYFAld0pPEACgkQ8AA1q7Z/VrKOoQCghfVdg1l/VrbKzeoQVyDpl8qY WNUAn0IO8AGPsuomFH2+5uc/8wwoAdXs =YE6b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --G1cP3tQlk7UXinmT6VbamtqIxcxqfjLfB--