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Internet Specialists From ftp-wg-owner@hethmon.com Tue Oct 16 09:29:42 2001 Received: from mail.hethmon.com (mail.hethmon.com [208.171.56.195]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id JAA17729 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:29:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.hethmon.com ([208.171.56.195] [208.171.56.195]) by mail.hethmon.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20011016083442-2375-9 ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 08:34:42 -0500 Received: from dns1.sopra.com ([195.115.139.29] [195.115.139.29]) by mail.hethmon.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20011016083437-19801-9 ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 08:34:38 -0500 Received: by dns1.sopra.com; id PAA00546; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:27:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200110161327.PAA00546@dns1.sopra.com> Organization: sopra X-Mailer: Messagerie Internet de Microsoft/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Encoding: 8 TEXT Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 08:34:39 -0500 X-OldDate: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:27:28 +0200 Sender: ftp-wg-owner X-Listname: ftp-wg@hethmon.com Reply-To: FTPEXT Working Group From: leclercq To: FTPEXT Working Group Subject: Ftp-WG: FTPS using a Web browser Internet Explorer as Nestcape Navigator are able to list, send and receive files using the FTP protocol. Although, these internet browsers support TLS for HTTP connections, they don't seem to support FTPS. Does anybody know if a Web Browser supporting FTPS exist or is in development ? Thanks Antoine Leclercq From ftp-wg-owner@hethmon.com Tue Oct 16 10:40:37 2001 Received: from mail.hethmon.com (mail.hethmon.com [208.171.56.195]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id KAA26406 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.hethmon.com ([208.171.56.195] [208.171.56.195]) by mail.hethmon.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20011016094540-13339-9 ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:45:40 -0500 Received: from mail15b.boca15-verio.com ([208.55.91.59] [208.55.91.59]) by mail.hethmon.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20011016094536-51062-8 ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:45:37 -0500 Received: from www1525.boca15-verio.com (208.55.91.110) by mail15b.boca15-verio.com (RS ver 1.0.60s) with SMTP id 034459473 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:37:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011016091408.00b88698@208.55.91.110> X-Sender: alun.texisc@208.55.91.110 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 In-Reply-To: <200110161327.PAA00546@dns1.sopra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Loop-Detect: 1 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:45:37 -0500 X-OldDate: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:35:53 -0500 Sender: ftp-wg-owner X-Listname: ftp-wg@hethmon.com Reply-To: FTPEXT Working Group From: Alun Jones To: FTPEXT Working Group Subject: Ftp-WG: FTPS using a Web browser At 08:34 AM 10/16/2001, you wrote: >Internet Explorer as Nestcape Navigator are able to list, send and receive >files using the FTP protocol. >Although, these internet browsers support TLS for HTTP connections, they >don't seem to support FTPS. > >Does anybody know if a Web Browser supporting FTPS exist or is in >development ? I've yet to see a web browser that supports FTP over TLS - and the name "FTPS" hasn't yet been applied to any particular FTP security implementation. Granted, if anything is going to be called "FTPS", then it should be the "FTP over TLS" specification currently in internet-draft form. However, it is also worth noting that a specification for "ftps" URIs should be drafted by the appropriate bodies, and described adequately for future implementors - for instance, in "ftps", should the data transfer as well as the initial command connection be encrypted? [Almost certainly, yes] Calling it "ftps" and leaving it up to others to implement is liable to cause the problem that browser implementors, already woefully inadequate in their FTP implementations, may choose to implement the deprecated "implicit SSL connection" syntax, rather than using the more appropriate "AUTH" commands. Alun. ~~~~ -- Texas Imperial Software | Try WFTPD, the Windows FTP Server. 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From ftp-wg-owner@hethmon.com Tue Oct 16 10:46:33 2001 Received: from mail.hethmon.com (mail.hethmon.com [208.171.56.195]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id KAA27256 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.hethmon.com ([208.171.56.195] [208.171.56.195]) by mail.hethmon.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20011016095150-13621-10 ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:51:50 -0500 Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu ([128.59.39.2] [128.59.39.2]) by mail.hethmon.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20011016095147-41639-8 ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:51:47 -0500 Received: (from jaltman@localhost) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA25283; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:44:42 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:45:37 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:51:48 -0500 X-OldDate: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:44:41 EDT Sender: ftp-wg-owner X-Listname: ftp-wg@hethmon.com Reply-To: FTPEXT Working Group From: Jeffrey Altman To: FTPEXT Working Group Subject: Ftp-WG: FTPS using a Web browser > >Does anybody know if a Web Browser supporting FTPS exist or is in > >development ? > > I've yet to see a web browser that supports FTP over TLS - and the name > "FTPS" hasn't yet been applied to any particular FTP security > implementation. Granted, if anything is going to be called "FTPS", then it > should be the "FTP over TLS" specification currently in internet-draft > form. However, it is also worth noting that a specification for "ftps" > URIs should be drafted by the appropriate bodies, and described adequately > for future implementors - for instance, in "ftps", should the data transfer > as well as the initial command connection be encrypted? [Almost certainly, > yes] Calling it "ftps" and leaving it up to others to implement is liable > to cause the problem that browser implementors, already woefully inadequate > in their FTP implementations, may choose to implement the deprecated > "implicit SSL connection" syntax, rather than using the more appropriate > "AUTH" commands. > > Alun. Alun: I believe FTPS refers to the FTP over SSL tunnel which only protected the command channel. It should not be used to refer to the current FTP over TLS specification which uses the AUTH command. There is no reason to have a separate URI for that. The browsers should just implement the AUTH TLS option and attempt to negotiate it on every connection. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer C-Kermit 8.0 Beta available The Kermit Project @ Columbia University includes Secure Telnet and FTP http://www.kermit-project.org/ using Kerberos, SRP, and kermit-support@kermit-project.org OpenSSL. SSH soon to follow. From ftp-wg-owner@hethmon.com Tue Oct 16 11:17:49 2001 Received: from mail.hethmon.com (mail.hethmon.com [208.171.56.195]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id LAA01180 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:17:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.hethmon.com ([208.171.56.195] [208.171.56.195]) by mail.hethmon.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20011016102300-28851-9 ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:23:00 -0500 Received: from d06lmsgate-2.uk.ibm.com ([195.212.29.2] [195.212.29.2]) by mail.hethmon.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20011016102255-37626-8 ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:22:55 -0500 Received: from d06relay02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06relay02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.166.84.148]) by d06lmsgate-2.uk.ibm.com (1.0.0) with ESMTP id PAA133916 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:58:01 +0100 Received: from d06ml035.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06ml035_cs0 [9.180.35.16]) by d06relay02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.11.1m3/NCO v4.97.1) with ESMTP id f9GFEBn284876 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:14:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.6a January 17, 2001 X-MIMETrack: S/MIME Sign by Notes Client on Paul V Ford-Hutchinson/UK/IBM(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 16/10/2001 04:13:22 PM, Serialize by Notes Client on Paul V Ford-Hutchinson/UK/IBM(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 16/10/2001 04:13:22 PM, Serialize complete at 16/10/2001 04:13:22 PM, Itemize by Notes Client on Paul V Ford-Hutchinson/UK/IBM(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 16/10/2001 04:13:22 PM, S/MIME Sign complete at 16/10/2001 04:13:22 PM, S/MIME Sign by Idle on Paul V Ford-Hutchinson/UK/IBM(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 16/10/2001 04:14:08 PM, S/MIME Sign complete at 16/10/2001 04:14:08 PM, Serialize by Router on D06ML035/06/M/IBM(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 16/10/2001 16:14:14, Serialize complete at 16/10/2001 16:14:14 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary=-------z33136_boundary_sign Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:22:57 -0500 X-OldDate: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:14:10 +0100 Sender: ftp-wg-owner X-Listname: ftp-wg@hethmon.com Reply-To: FTPEXT Working Group From: "Paul V Ford-Hutchinson" To: FTPEXT Working Group Subject: Ftp-WG: FTPS using a Web browser This is an S/MIME signed message. ---------z33136_boundary_sign Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Alun Jones wrote: ================== I've yet to see a web browser that supports FTP over TLS - and the name "FTPS" hasn't yet been applied to any particular FTP security implementation. Granted, if anything is going to be called "FTPS", then it should be the "FTP over TLS" specification currently in internet-draft form. However, it is also worth noting that a specification for "ftps" URIs should be drafted by the appropriate bodies, and described adequately for future implementors - for instance, in "ftps", should the data transfer as well as the initial command connection be encrypted? [Almost certainly, yes] Calling it "ftps" and leaving it up to others to implement is liable to cause the problem that browser implementors, already woefully inadequate in their FTP implementations, may choose to implement the deprecated "implicit SSL connection" syntax, rather than using the more appropriate "AUTH" commands. =================== As ever - the reality is always more complicated than it needs to be. "ftps" is a recognised "well-known port" (990). It was registered by Chris Allen (then of Consensus and a co-author of RFC2246), back in the days (1997) when everyone was SSL-ifying protocols that way. The history of the ftp-over-tls draft included a definition of what an ftps protocol might actually mean. It was defined in draft-00 thru draft-06 and defined as deprecated in draft-07. It is entirely missing from draft-08 (which just sneaked out last week). ftps as a url scheme (RFC1738) is not defined anywhere, nor have I ever seen it. The TLS upgrade mechanism in http (RFC2817) says that the url scheme for such sessions will be http:. But I don't see a huge rush to deploy RFC2817. This document also contains a statement that it is the IETF direction not to ssl-ify protocols on connection - made at the Washington IETF apparently. There are other sftp and ftps claimants (SSH and SRA spring to mind; and simple ftp (port 115) - whatever that is). I am hoping that FTP-over-TLS is getting sufficiently well supported now, that it should be the way that any new implementation (esp. one that has access to an SSL stack) should choose to secure FTP. Now, about that secure ftp and firewall interoperability draft I'm writing ...... Paul -- Paul Ford-Hutchinson : eCommerce application security : paulfordh@uk.ibm.com MPT-6, IBM , PO Box 31, Birmingham Rd, Warwick, CV34 5JL +44 (0)1926 462005 http://www.ford-hutchinson.com/~fh-1-pfh/ftps-ext.html Alun Jones Sent by: ftp-wg-owner 16/10/2001 03:45 PM Please respond to FTPEXT Working Group To: FTPEXT Working Group cc: Subject: Ftp-WG: FTPS using a Web browser At 08:34 AM 10/16/2001, you wrote: >Internet Explorer as Nestcape Navigator are able to list, send and receive >files using the FTP protocol. >Although, these internet browsers support TLS for HTTP connections, they >don't seem to support FTPS. > >Does anybody know if a Web Browser supporting FTPS exist or is in >development ? I've yet to see a web browser that supports FTP over TLS - and the name "FTPS" hasn't yet been applied to any particular FTP security implementation. Granted, if anything is going to be called "FTPS", then it should be the "FTP over TLS" specification currently in internet-draft form. However, it is also worth noting that a specification for "ftps" URIs should be drafted by the appropriate bodies, and described adequately for future implementors - for instance, in "ftps", should the data transfer as well as the initial command connection be encrypted? [Almost certainly, yes] Calling it "ftps" and leaving it up to others to implement is liable to cause the problem that browser implementors, already woefully inadequate in their FTP implementations, may choose to implement the deprecated "implicit SSL connection" syntax, rather than using the more appropriate "AUTH" commands. Alun. ~~~~ -- Texas Imperial Software | Try WFTPD, the Windows FTP Server. 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protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary=-------z21824_boundary_sign Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:12:19 -0500 X-OldDate: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:45:16 +0100 Sender: ftp-wg-owner X-Listname: ftp-wg@hethmon.com Reply-To: FTPEXT Working Group From: "Paul V Ford-Hutchinson" To: FTPEXT Working Group Subject: Ftp-WG: FTPS using a Web browser This is an S/MIME signed message. ---------z21824_boundary_sign Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I don't know of any. You could ask if the ws_ftp folks are planning on adding that function into their integration with a web browser capability. (I just tried - it doesn't work with 7.0) Paul -- Paul Ford-Hutchinson : eCommerce application security : paulfordh@uk.ibm.com MPT-6, IBM , PO Box 31, Birmingham Rd, Warwick, CV34 5JL +44 (0)1926 462005 http://www.ford-hutchinson.com/~fh-1-pfh/ftps-ext.html leclercq Sent by: ftp-wg-owner 16/10/2001 02:34 PM Please respond to FTPEXT Working Group To: FTPEXT Working Group cc: Subject: Ftp-WG: FTPS using a Web browser Internet Explorer as Nestcape Navigator are able to list, send and receive files using the FTP protocol. Although, these internet browsers support TLS for HTTP connections, they don't seem to support FTPS. Does anybody know if a Web Browser supporting FTPS exist or is in development ? 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